00:01:51.200No. Alvin Coolidge. No, it was, it is Teddy Roosevelt. Oh, okay. The Rough Rider.
00:02:00.280I'm a big Teddy Roosevelt fan. And I'm a big Teddy Roosevelt fan for a number of reasons. Number one,
00:02:06.080he wrote his PhD thesis on women's suffrage before it was cool to talk about women's suffrage.
00:02:10.840He, his conservation ideals, the fact that he had a military history and was serving as president,
00:02:16.560I have a respect for that. If you're going to be the commander in chief of your army, I have a respect for people that have served. And so, yeah, I think there was a lot of forward thinking. I liked his progressives. I like that sort of progressive nature and pragmatism in the area rather than somebody I feel as though is incredibly, you know, other politicians who are incredibly dogmatic, which is why we find ourselves where we find
00:02:46.560ourselves today right um i think there's so many people that are tied to you know they're tied to
00:02:55.280what their party is and what they're and and survival of their party and they've chucked out
00:03:01.120the window the the what are we protecting here you know you're just protecting a party you got
00:03:08.000to go back to lincoln team of rivals right that's where that stuff started to come into play exactly
00:03:13.920what you're talking about right we're going to take in ideas
00:03:20.320the movie with um forgive me primary colors john drew yes great movie that was well yeah that's
00:03:28.000about clinton right yeah it was sort of based on clinton roughly so if you recall when he was in
00:03:33.520the primary process in that movie still dealing with the other democrats that he was trying to
00:03:38.240to unseat in one of the uh uh debates with two other gentlemen he agreed with both of them on a
00:03:45.220certain subject and then somebody one of them looked at him said so what if anything are you
00:03:49.700against and he had one i think one of the greatest lines he goes i'm against dismissing any idea just
00:03:55.040because i didn't come up with you don't hear that anymore right why like this and then this we we
00:04:03.620have this in Canada this is going on in Canada a lot right now I feel as though it's obviously
00:04:08.980more easily divisive in the United States because you guys only have two parties where is it up here
00:04:15.220we have a few right so it makes it a little harder just to stand against because you're
00:04:19.360going to have to you got to be clear about who you stand against you know in order but this
00:04:25.540frustration that everybody has which is why I want to I would love to have more right-wing
00:04:31.580guests on this show to talk about all of these different issues in a calm, intellectually driven,
00:04:40.900respectful debate. I'm not going to have a respectful debate about whether it's okay to
00:04:46.020be discriminatory. No, that's just garbage. You can step over there. That's not the point.1.00
00:04:50.060But a lot of the other things I think are incredibly important. And you say that you
00:04:54.420think that began in Lincoln's era. I remember reading about Washington. And when Washington
00:05:00.480was president when they started forming political parties he's like no you guys have screwed it up
00:05:04.800this is it this is the end of a true democracy as soon as you've drawn lines and i realized the
00:05:11.680parties had changed but as soon as you draw lines and you make camps people just want their team to
00:05:16.880win they no longer want the good idea to win it's what we have right now it's all about yeah right
00:05:23.840now we we've we've moved past political policy differences and we've moved into w's and l's
00:05:32.720we're just racking up w's and l's who's got more we won you lost can i pause the conversation
00:05:39.280really quickly just to say that um because i don't have an opportunity other than when i'm
00:05:43.360on vacation to speak to a lot of canadians uh i dig the way you say against against yeah do i say
00:05:51.920No, it's an accent to us because we say against, against, and you say against, so there's a little bit of a Canadian, you put that thing on it, I like it.
00:06:03.620It's funny because I pick up intonations super easily, so wherever I'm traveling, a lot of people who are Canadian think I'm American, because as soon as I go anywhere, I pick up any sort of cadence to a speech or anything like that.
00:06:18.180sometimes to the point i think where people think i might be mocking but i never am it's just i just
00:06:24.240pick it up and i and i start to to to mimic it a little bit of that in me i spent some years in
00:06:30.100southern indiana and and you hear me talking on my videos i'm very i don't think i need to express
00:06:36.800to people that i'm from chicago i think my voice says i'm from chicago the way i stand right as
00:06:42.220soon as i cross that border with my wife and we're back down to visiting family well all of a sudden
00:06:46.840i'm talking like i was back when i was in high school let me tell you something and you you
00:06:50.440you put this face and that accent together and you think i was out there voting for trump every
00:06:54.440day of the week yeah throwing some props to just round it out a little bit oh my god i can't that's
00:07:04.120a lot i think you should no you know you shouldn't have to leave you you told me you were going to
00:07:08.120teach me how america i'm going to teach i got to teach you a little bit so let's start at the
00:07:13.640beginning we'll start at the beginning here right we'll start at the beginning so canada for those
00:07:18.520who are listening canada has a parliamentary democracy the united states has a republican
00:07:23.000democracy one is based on the fusion of powers the other one's based on a separation of powers
00:07:27.960and i like to joke that the united states is built on the fact that you can never get anything done
00:07:32.680in the united states and canada is built on the fact that if we elect somebody with a majority
00:07:37.480we've elected a dictator for five years and they can do whatever the hell they want okay fair enough
00:07:41.960some of the fundamentals I can't argue with our end of it yeah we get very little done
00:07:49.640inside the United States right outside the United States it's a different kettle of fish
00:07:56.440so when we're talking about democracies here are some of the bigger I guess differences between
00:08:02.120Canada the United States so you have the United States president elected every four years on the
00:08:07.240a dot. Canadian prime ministers are elected every five years unless a new election is called. So
00:08:12.820they can get elected earlier. They can call an election earlier. Canadian, you can be a prime
00:08:18.860minister, 1,700 terms. America, you get two, right? We both have a house of, you have a house
00:08:25.100of representatives. We have a house of commons. You guys stay for two years, which I think is
00:08:29.860insane. Our house of commons stays for five. You guys have an elected senate, six-year term.
00:08:36.320our senators get appointed and they stay till they're 75.
00:09:02.620I think politically we have a wider variety of options, even though, just so you know, there's only been two political parties that have ever been prime minister and had a majority government federally.
00:09:39.360In your country, is it very similar to ours in that governor is probably the single biggest stepping stone to president?
00:09:47.480In that you get, when you're a governor in the United States of America, you're essentially doing what the president does on a smaller scale.
00:09:54.020You're running a state, you get executive experience, you're the commander in chief of your state's national guard.
00:10:00.040that in this country is viewed as the single biggest qualifying experience to get the president
00:10:05.020nowadays. Yeah. And I think the reason why it's so different in Canada, the United States is
00:10:10.620very, very simple. You guys are a republic made up of individual states with a heck of a lot of
00:10:16.920power, which is both the reason you were formed. And I think one of the reasons why it's so hard
00:10:23.600to function as a, you know, as a cohesive entity, whereas in Canada, we're a much more federalist
00:10:29.660style of government meaning our federal government has a lot more power than our provincial ones do
00:10:36.300for example you guys would have capital punishment depending on the state
00:10:40.700that is a federal law in canada whether it is or isn't we don't have capital punishment
00:10:46.940that was you know we we got rid of that in the 70s but we have criminal law that is consistent
00:10:53.740across canada did you just glitch out on me i don't think so go on my screen just glitched
00:11:00.700we're all good carry on um so it's consistent across canada whereas i think your individual
00:11:06.300states have a boatload of power they have too much power in my opinion right so you'd be yeah
00:11:12.940so you would push more towards more of a federalist style a little bit more power to your federal
00:11:19.500government as opposed to your state government why i would prefer it i i mean there was a line
00:11:25.420once again i'd like to go to movies i apologize but a national treasure with nick cage
00:11:31.580whoa wait hold on listen you can quote all the movies you want but i love the fact that you're
00:11:38.140gonna pull something from national you like you know the movie right okay of course i know the
00:11:45.660movie i'm dying to know where you're gonna once again the stolen prostitution scene when they're
00:11:50.140in the dressing rooms opposite one another and they're having their first real conversation
00:11:54.540nicholas cage and the female i forget her actor the actress's name okay and he's giving his basic
00:12:01.180philosophy of the united states and he says right we don't say the united states are we say the
00:12:10.460the United States is. We're one nation. No longer is it the United States are. It's not a team of
00:12:18.680miniature states anymore. And that's the way I look at it. I know it's just one line from one
00:12:23.960silly movie, but he nailed it. Nobody says the United States are. He says the United States is0.95
00:12:29.760as if we were one entity. But then when you get down into the meat of the situation,
00:12:34.460They don't look at us as one entity. They look at us as 50 individual entities. And personally, I just think that that is a very dangerous way to run a nation. I know it's helped us succeed, but I think it's time that we look beyond that way of governance because it is really starting to be detrimental to our overall health and safety.
00:12:55.720uh i absolutely agree and i mean when i look at so i teach american history up here it's one of
00:13:01.980the courses that i teach in in high school and um when we looked at the articles of confederation
00:13:07.820versus the constitution itself not only did the constitution itself give a lot of power to the
00:13:13.240state but the articles in confederation really did want way more power to individual states than
00:13:19.260they even got so when people talk about the divisions in american society and they always
00:13:25.160cite the Civil War. I'm like, I don't think you're getting it. It was built on division.
00:13:30.560It was built that we're going to bind as 13 colonies because we have this external oppressor
00:13:36.440that we're worried about stepping back over here. But we really want to control our own,
00:13:42.420you know, backyard, whether it's North Carolina or Virginia or whoever it happens to be,
00:13:48.520rather than forming as a nation. Now, Canada has a similar murky history in the sense that the only
00:13:54.260way a big reason canada became canada in 1867 we were all terrified of what you all were doing
00:14:00.900during the civil war so we thought if the north lost the north was going to be like oh don't
00:14:05.700worry there's some more land just north of us we're just going to go pick that up so we had
00:14:10.020four provinces forge an alliance kind of under the same auspice meaning we're really afraid of
00:14:17.620of an outside aggressor stepping up here and taking us over. So we're going to forge some
00:14:24.100kind of an alliance. And I think both of those birthrights are incredibly problematic.
00:14:29.860And I understand at the time that our nation was, forgive me, stolen. I know that we always
00:14:38.980like to talk about how it was formed. We stole it. Oh, absolutely. As was ours.
00:14:43.760At the time our nation was stolen and we formed a new government on it, I understand the need to have some individual powers in the individual states as we were an up-and-coming nation that was trying to find its own way.
00:14:57.680But there's a reason why those same founding fathers did form this overarching federal government.
00:15:04.820And it's right there in the Constitution that so many people overlook.
00:15:07.840we the people, in order to form a more perfect union, and it goes on to talk about promote the
00:15:13.520domestic tranquility, the general welfare. I mean, it is a federal government that was formed
00:15:19.960for the betterment of all people, not just separating people out into these little groups
00:15:25.740called states. It was meant to kind of bring people together while giving some power to the
00:15:30.700states. And it really is amazing how we have this argument down here about states' rights,
00:15:34.680depending on what the issue is right if the issue suits the argument then states rights are really
00:15:40.440called for but if all of a sudden you need the federal government to step in for you then all
00:15:44.260of a sudden you don't give a damn about states rights absolutely yeah absolutely and i and i find
00:15:49.980that it's it's really that division now i know and and correct me if i'm wrong but i find a lot
00:15:56.020of americans tend to not just stay within their state but within their within their city within
00:16:01.420their town, within their county. I've met a lot of Americans who are like, listen, I don't need
00:16:06.180to go outside of this hundred mile radius, which tends to beget and I think create just like it
00:16:14.740would in Canada, different places that we're talking about. When you never step outside of
00:16:20.020where you were born and raised and love, your, let's say, vision tends to be a little more
00:16:28.200tunnel vision than anyone else and how could you possibly understand like americans are always
00:16:33.640surprised when i say we do american history because you know you all aren't throwing down
00:16:37.400some canadian history down there i don't think um but i'll come down listen if you have a high
00:16:43.400school i'll come down i'll i'll make sure they're all good on canadian history but the point is is
00:16:49.000that when we fixate on our own history and we don't fixate on something a little bit more
00:16:54.760international a little bit global that tunnel vision is pretty pretty damning not only is it
00:17:02.120damning but it's it's it's so corrosive to the mind think about how many people think that the
00:17:07.960united states of america is the greatest country on earth just because they've been programmed to0.97
00:17:13.640believe so you're going to live fewer years than other nations you're going to earn less money than
00:17:21.240other nations you're going to be less content with your life you're going to be less healthy
00:17:25.800in the united states what part is great i mean don't get me wrong we're phenomenal at kicking0.84
00:17:31.320other nations ass and locking our own people outside of that where are we great right so
00:17:39.400why do you think people and this is what i find fantastic because i i teach again talking about
00:17:44.760canadian history i love the country in which i live but i'll be the first person to speak about
00:17:49.720the indigenous genocide that we committed i'll be the first person to speak about how our government
00:17:55.880was slow to to empower women and to empower minorities and to even though every talks about
00:18:03.000oh canada was the end of the underground railway but nobody talks about what happened to them when
00:18:07.640they got here right they move into areas and the white population in places like orangeville0.66
00:18:13.320burn down Black communities' homes and businesses and threaten them until they leave.0.95
00:18:20.700That was Canada. Let's not talk about it as it's all roses and puppy dogs up here because that's0.99
00:18:27.680not the way it was. But when we talk about those things and people say, oh, it used to be great,
00:18:34.660and I'm not trying to evoke Donald in this conversation because let's be honest,
00:18:40.240he stole it from reagan but i'm not trying to evoke the whole america was great thing
00:18:47.120but where do you think that because that's a strong thing for people that whole remember when
00:18:52.640kind of mentality and it's a really reagan was smart when he tapped into it because it's really
00:18:58.400friggin smart why do you think that people are so drawn to the remember the good old days well
00:19:05.120i think because we all look around at our youth with some kind of nostalgia right everybody does
00:19:12.000absolutely i had as you know from following me an absolutely horrendous year but there were still
00:19:18.000pockets of it that were phenomenal like we're coming up on the holidays right i talk often
00:19:22.720about the holidays it's one of those glimmering moments in my childhood that i can hold on to
00:19:28.400and so those are things that i hearken back to and when i smell something that reminds me of a good
00:19:33.520time when I was a kid. And what happens is in your life, you have those good times and things
00:19:39.200are always the way they are. My 17-year-old is going through this right now. So my 17-year-old
00:19:43.760is infinitely more intellectual than I will ever be. I'm a high school dropout, never went to a
00:19:52.700lick of college. She attends a STEM boarding school for super smart kids that are one day
00:19:58.300going to land something on Mars. It's for kids that are going to go to college specifically to
00:20:02.840go into a career for math and science, right? So she's way more intellectually smart than I am.
00:20:08.220And she's starting to see this. Well, it's not the way it was last year. It's not the way it
00:20:12.840was. Dad, why are we changing up this about the holidays? It's not the way it always was
00:20:16.880because things change. So at 17, she's already beginning to get nostalgic.
00:20:21.440By the time you're 50, what happens? You're paying bills. You've got a mortgage. You're
00:20:25.980starting to get ailments. You're arguing with the old lady. The car breaks down and you look around0.98
00:20:30.620and you go life was simpler hey remember when remember when the only thing i had to worry about
00:20:39.020was a 68 pack 68 cent pack of smokes i got out of the vending machine that i rolled up in my left
00:20:44.540sleeve and i walked on the train tracks in the town man life was simple i'm sorry did you grow
00:20:50.620up and stand by me what what a little bit i did literally freshman year of high school
00:20:57.580i did roll a pack of cigarettes up in my left sleeve every day there you go it's a solid look
00:21:03.100well i mean i'm yeah i'm holding on to these these glasses right these are glasses when i was a kid
00:21:07.980in the 80s this is what mcdonald's would give it first of all mcdonald's has really dropped the
00:21:12.220damn ball because they don't give away stuff like this anymore but you hold on to things you know0.55
00:21:16.940as an adult i'm sort of trying to reclaim my youth whether it's in toys whether it's in a t-shirt0.99
00:21:23.420i just brought us bought it i am 46 i just bought a sesame street t-shirt what does that say
00:21:30.140remember the scratch and sniff stickers this is what i'm saying i just want some things but i
00:21:39.500just bought it i don't know if you remember the sesame street little clip where it's this little
00:21:43.980girl her mom gives her money and she's supposed to walk to the store and she's supposed to get
00:21:48.300a loaf of bread a quarter milk and a stick of butter right and that voice of that little girl
00:21:55.100is in and i saw this teacher t-shirt tom and i'm like i don't care what they're they could have
00:21:59.420asked me 150 for this t-shirt and i was buying it and i think that's what some politicians
00:22:06.380unfortunately are really playing on when in actuality sure i miss you know i'm just taking
00:22:14.860notes on what shirts to put in my store and what the chart for them telling you you can sell0.99
00:22:22.620childhood for anything every for any every time new shirts arrive my wife's like what's the new1.00
00:22:28.540shirt right that's it she's bitching she's like you get more new shirts and i'm like look at it's0.96
00:22:32.780the schoolhouse rock shirt how could i not get it i'm gonna i'm gonna get go get mine i have a0.99
00:22:38.780schoolhouse rock shirt in my drawer right now right i have a shirt i have a shirt that has
00:22:45.020you remember like frankenberry count chocula blueberry blueberry in the closet yeah in the
00:22:49.580pantry i have a whole shirt i have boxes of cereal that somehow i've managed to get from that
00:22:57.100we buy back and i think these politicians are playing on that they know that you're nostalgic
00:23:02.780for easier times they know that life is not easy for the average everyday joe and and they know
00:23:10.140at least i think that and i'm trying not to be snotty about this so let me hopefully it comes
00:23:17.340out right they know that not everybody just let roll off their back excuse my language
00:23:23.020they know that they know that when when people get into their 30s and 40s if they haven't become
00:23:28.620the middle linebacker of the chicago bears or the prima ballerina like they thought they were
00:23:32.700going to be when they were 13 all of a sudden they start to get angry about life whereas i've
00:23:36.860always been somebody that was like yeah i'm i live in a four bedroom two and a half bath ranch
00:23:43.000and i think i'm living in a palace everybody's like do you want your second home you're still
00:23:49.100in your starter home starter home i lived in a tent for four years and then the home i lived in
00:23:54.420when i was a kid was a shack this is a i got carpeting and central air i'm living the dream
00:24:01.300Yeah, I'm good to go. Right, right, right. Do you think, okay, so a politicians play,
00:24:08.140and I think in a lot of ways, they play on that nostalgia. But when you really look at that error,
00:24:12.800and I often say this to people when they say, oh, I just, we just, we had it better. Like,
00:24:17.900forget Trump and all of that garbage. Ignore him for a second. Let's say that a lot of people,1.00
00:24:23.020no matter what political party they belong to, they can remember their childhood and they think
00:24:27.940they were just better times but what you understand about that if you can sort of
00:24:32.400articulate it is yet they were better times because as a kid you had no idea about what
00:24:38.020was going on politically none or socially and if you were a kid yeah and if you were a kid
00:24:44.160that was white and straight growing up in that time you got to walk around even if you were poor
00:24:51.960like poverty brought or lower economic standing had some limitations but for the most part you
00:24:57.760got to walk around and still, you know, eat the blueberry cereal or whatever the hell you're
00:25:01.560doing. And you had this idea of nostalgia, but when people say it was so great, I'm like, when
00:25:06.380was it great? Was it great when women couldn't vote? Was it great when you're allowed to beat1.00
00:25:10.640the heck out of your wife and kids? Was it great when, you know, Ruby, I just really read about
00:25:16.440Ruby Bridges, because I think we have a lot of these symbols all the time. And we're like, oh,
00:25:21.400yeah, I remember when Ruby Bridges was, you know, the first kid to go into school in New Orleans,
00:25:25.980new orleans sorry i say that wrong every single time people get mad at me um i think you're
00:25:30.920supposed to say new orleans right there's like no well technically it's technically it's more like
00:25:35.300a no islands right right but it's it's no new orleans yeah i'm not cool enough for that yet
00:25:43.260i'm gonna build to it but when i was i i was actually because we we use these figures and
00:25:48.780we just tell their five minute story but but like nobody understands this little kid in
00:25:54.120in kindergarten had to write a test to see if she could go to the white school and then only six
00:25:58.440kids got to go want to know why because the rest of the african-american population wasn't actually
00:26:02.920getting educated and then and then all the teachers quit nobody talks about the whole
00:26:09.640story and then she sat alone in that classroom for the whole year now you understand why crt
00:26:19.480is such a flashpoint right now because the people who did bad things, people who look exactly like
00:26:27.380me, don't want that story told. And what you're seeing in the United States of America right now,
00:26:32.520I believe, is this. You're seeing ember flare-ups. So for the longest time, white, straight
00:26:41.400Christians ran everything. And then women began to take control over their own voice. It became0.99
00:26:49.460more acceptable to come out as who you actually are, whether that be gay, trans, bi, whatever the
00:26:55.060case may be. And people of color began to become more empowered and more proud of their background
00:27:01.940and standing on their own two feet. And more importantly, white people are slowly but surely
00:27:07.900becoming the minority. So what you're seeing is a nation that is slowly but surely going towards
00:27:13.940the progressive way, which you know I'm not a progressive. I like to see this progressive move.
00:27:19.460Slowly but surely going there, but we're having these flare ups of these people who are losing their power, the people who are losing their majority and you get this flare up and it's Trump and then he gets put out and 81 billion people come out with that fire up. Right. And we'll have another. That's one hell of a flare up. Yeah. We'll have another flare up. You understand what I'm saying? But at some point in time, they are going to be the minority. And that is what that's how people like Trump are able to sell this shit. So people like Trump do what you're saying. They play on the nostalgia.
00:27:49.460because what they're doing is now they're taking a group of people that are not only looking at
00:27:54.480this nostalgia from, hey, this was just better when I was a kid because I didn't have bills,
00:27:58.540but they're looking at nostalgia and, hey, this was better when I was a kid because I didn't have
00:28:02.560pills. And I could tell you the black guy and go, fuck him. I'm sorry. They're missing those1.00
00:28:10.700times. My father, my father died in 2015 and he refused to vote for Barack Obama because he said
00:28:17.840it's called the white house for a reason my father my father told my children that the only
00:28:24.220black man that should ever be in the white house is the one serving the real president of the
00:28:28.100united states and here's the problem with that my father aligned with barack obama's policies0.94
00:28:34.080almost a hundred percent when i sat down and talked with my father and i said and i asked him
00:28:37.980my father doesn't care who gets married thinks that college should be free thinks that everybody
00:28:45.600should have his the medicare he had he goes it's great health and drink everybody should have this
00:28:49.780that's obama dad yeah it doesn't matter he's black right he said he would say tell me flat out
00:28:55.700he's black it doesn't matter it's and it's so i'm reading the ruby bridges story and i'm and i was
00:29:03.000talking about it with my partner i'm just like it's just so insane and she said something that's0.89
00:29:06.960just so incredibly important she goes because we were talking about the white mothers predominantly
00:29:13.480that would stand in front of the school and swear at this little girl and hold up dead1.00
00:29:19.040african-american babies in coffins like like toys you know what i mean like faking that
00:29:25.540to the girl was six and and i said can you imagine the like what level of brainwashing0.89
00:29:35.700and manipulation and societal damage that has to be done to that white population in order to put
00:29:44.800you there in order to in your head think it's acceptable not only just acceptable they probably0.58
00:29:51.340thought they were doing whatever their country needed them to do to stand outside a grade one
00:29:56.080classroom and and try to terrorize this little girl and I said and that's why CRT that's only
00:30:03.10061 years ago. And I said, well, that's why CRT is so incredibly important, because we're not done
00:30:07.560with the brainwash. Well, think about this. Those white parents, you said your partner was asking
00:30:11.980about the white mothers. Yeah. 61 years ago. Who raised those white mothers? Those white mothers0.67
00:30:21.040were raised by the people who finished off the genocide of the Native Americans.0.84
00:30:25.460Absolutely. Those white mothers were raised by people who were like, Bill Byrd did a bit about
00:30:29.980this, and I like to go to movies and comedy, but Bill Burr did a bit about this, about how
00:30:33.800the owner from the Clippers, who had the racist tirade about his girlfriend hanging out with
00:30:38.440black guys, he's like, okay, it's horrible, and he's got to go, but were you surprised? He was0.88
00:30:45.120raised by somebody that would be, like, teaching him his ABCs, like, A, B, C, D, get that engine
00:30:50.100off my lawn! E, F, G, do it. The first 12 years of his life, baseball in the United States was
00:30:57.920all white and nobody cared so those people 61 years ago who were maybe in their 20s and 30s0.90
00:31:05.820back then yelling at this little girl they were raised by people who genocided a race
00:31:11.060so they were raised with just pure racism it is it is just taken for taking us generations and
00:31:19.900decades to get get that squeezed out of the system my kids are probably the first ones my kids my
00:31:26.840cousins kids in southern indiana are the first ones that aren't running around using the n-word
00:31:30.660in my family wow but look at that and and the fact that and this is what kills me actually and
00:31:37.960we see it up here to a certain degree but to a lesser degree because our history is a little
00:31:42.080bit different but what kills me is the fact that people can't talk about that admit that own that
00:31:49.140but still not like i'm not responsible for my dad i'm not responsible for my grandparents but i am
00:31:55.440responsible for me and if I don't recognize who they were and why they were how in the hell does0.93
00:32:02.280it ever really change like my grandma's 96 do you think things that are that like racist crap hasn't0.95
00:32:07.960come out of her mouth of course it has that then that's my job to fix it that's my job that's my0.93
00:32:12.880job to sit my grandma down respectfully and say cut it out that's enough right it's my job to bring
00:32:19.060people into my grandmother's life so she doesn't get to live in this bubble of of uh you know this
00:32:26.340very christian white world and she's never known any different and all of a sudden she's meeting
00:32:31.300people who are african-american who are asian who are obviously gay and her world view has to change0.64
00:32:37.940and that's what it's about it's not about like it just kills me when people are like well it's
00:32:43.460just trying to make all these white kids guilty no what i find down here especially in and i don't
00:32:52.500know if you're aware of this but i live in a uh even though i live in the suburbs of of the third0.63
00:32:57.060largest uh city in in the nation i live on the fringe of the suburbs so i live in a very red
00:33:04.580town it's a trump it's a trump town um and out here what i find is that
00:33:14.260so we're talking about trying to figure out how the best way to word this as to not aggravate
00:33:21.780anybody because i don't want to ever rock the boat unless i'm i'm having my boat rock what they're
00:33:27.540finding is is that they're finding that that that loss of control that loss of my of of of the
00:33:35.860majority it means that they no longer get to whitewash their history and if they no longer
00:33:41.060get to whitewash their history then the end result of that they believe is that they're going to be
00:33:47.460blamed for everything that happened and at the end of the day the people of color in this in this in0.75
00:33:52.820this country don't want to blame me for what happened all they want out of me at least the0.98
00:33:58.820way i view it and i may be completely wrong as i'm not a person of color they want me to be able to
00:34:03.940say hey it was wrong b it should never happen again and c i acknowledge that even though i
00:34:11.860didn't do i still benefited from that system greatly and i did i am a straight white middle
00:34:18.820middle age, middle American male. I'm the safest human being on the planet. Banks want to loan me
00:34:25.220money. Employers want to hire me. You know what I mean? I mean, I got there because people like
00:34:32.180yourself have been stepped on throughout society to favor me. People who are gay, people who are0.95
00:34:39.660trans, people who are women, people who are black, people who are Hispanic have been made to be0.97
00:34:45.460second-class citizens so that the white straight males of America can be led to the front of the0.91
00:34:50.380line. I have a job of high school dropout that's living the dream because I've been handed every0.74
00:34:56.500opportunity that everybody around me doesn't get. And I think it's also fascinating, we talk about
00:35:03.660the birth of the United States, and again, we can compare it to Canada, and I can give you horror
00:35:07.920stories of this country too, but you talk about the beginnings of the United States, the beginnings
00:35:12.040in the united states everybody talks about this this cap this bastion of capitalism prosperity
00:35:19.320and democracy and it was none of that it was fascist flat out and it was only 10 of your0.69
00:35:27.400population could vote in the beginning at the very beginning very small you needed to be white
00:35:32.840male and own property that changed over time but that wasn't the beginning of the united states0.67
00:35:38.920and nobody wants to talk about that when you build a house on that foundation
00:35:44.200it's faulty it's cracked actually go back even further we we didn't start out as fascist we
00:35:50.300started out as socialist jamestown we were all in it together it was it was a communal effort
00:35:56.880it was what was our our nation our national motto e pluribus unum it wasn't under god we trust it
00:36:04.020was out of many one and we all came together and that is something that you touch on well no no it
00:36:10.740wasn't you it was uh cannon fodder do you follow cannon fodder on tech talk yes i do yeah she really
00:36:16.480touched on this and it didn't dawn on me the reality of this until she brought it up my
00:36:21.600daughter's part of this generation my 17 year old daughter they i don't know how it is in canada in
00:36:26.420your classroom but up here most of the work is now done in group project form there's right there's
00:36:33.540very little you're going to go off and do your own thing anymore and unlike gen x group projects
00:36:40.940where it was always like there was the one guy that did all the work and then there was the guy
00:36:44.360that was the funny one and the guy that never showed up and you know in today's day these kids
00:36:49.860it is all about making sure everybody is a rising tide lifts all boats and so her group projects are
00:36:56.540all about making sure everybody succeeds and what is happening is they're taking that mentality from
00:37:01.820the classroom and they're taking it to the polling place and they're saying we want government that
00:37:06.760recognizes the way we we work in the classroom which is communal so they're leaning back into
00:37:13.440communism as it's written in the book without looking at the history of communism
00:37:18.560listen you guys you guys use the word communism down there like it's the worst four-letter word0.98
00:37:27.180you know what i mean oh you're gay you're a communist oh you bought a glass from the cell0.87
00:37:31.900but you're a communist oh you you dated a you know and it's amazing how quickly now again it's0.99
00:37:38.860thrown out there by people on the extreme right and left um the crate the left screaming communism
00:37:48.060the left will scream similar things like uh towards the right they'll scream instead of coming like0.92
00:37:54.060The right yells at me, communist and socialist, the left yells back, fascist and Nazi.0.80
00:39:03.700And these kids would go to class and he'd teach History 10.0.59
00:39:06.060And every year he would teach that the Holocaust never happened.
00:39:10.720He'd bring books, Tom, and he'd put them on his desk.
00:39:14.760Because there's tons of Holocaust denying books that have been published.
00:39:17.660he put them on his desk and he said you know what they exaggerated they made up the numbers
00:39:22.940the nazis wanted to make themselves out to be more than they were and then the jewish population has
00:39:27.820used this forever to get i don't even know how many classes he got through until one jewish kid
00:39:34.140moves to that area of alberta sits down in his classroom listens to this guy's lecture and goes
00:39:39.820home and goes excuse me now he gets put on trial he gets fired he said it's my right
00:39:47.180my civil right free speech yada yada yada he gets fired obviously because free speech doesn't
00:39:52.700include hate speech but we're not talking generations ago so when people say that our
00:40:00.460curriculum matters and oversight matters and crt matters that's why that's not that that's in my
00:40:08.540era that's in my era that that garbage was still happening yeah you just said something that was
00:40:14.700rather interesting you you said that free speech does not include hate speech is that the law up
00:40:21.020there in canada yeah yeah and as it should be uh and and it only it only attests when we talk about
00:40:29.420and most people understand this when we talk about our fundamental freedoms it's against
00:40:33.420the government a lot of people don't understand that they'll say oh joanna you know when i'm in
00:40:37.660public. You can't tell me to shut up by free speech. I'm like, listen, that's not what we're
00:40:41.420doing here. Our civil rights are protection of us against our government, not of everybody else
00:40:48.740in the world. But our government cannot have an undeniable level of power. And when a teacher
00:40:57.920is a representative of that government because they work for the government, there's the
00:41:01.580limitation. Okay. So I'm just, I'm trying to get to the crutch of this. What is by law of their
00:41:06.940considered hate speech anything that incites any just like down there because you guys would have
00:41:13.580that and you would have hate crimes but anything that incites um or outrightly calls for violence
00:41:20.940and whatever so denying the holocaust would be hate speech okay so there's where i have the
00:41:27.740disconnect with you for just one moment on this topic so down here the term hate speech in america
00:41:35.020is somewhat similar, but we call what you're talking about incitement speech. It's incitement.
00:41:44.740Hateful speech is just talking hateful about somebody else, which is utterly and completely
00:41:49.380protected by our First Amendment rights. Now, do I think that somebody who teaches
00:41:54.740the Holocaust is not real, should have a job teaching? No, that person should be fired.
00:42:05.020But down here, like saying the Holocaust isn't real. That's not against the law. Is that against the law in Canada? Not teaching it, but just saying it. Is that is that illegal?
00:42:15.420You mean a person on the street? No, you can't really do much about that. That's just their opinion. You can say. But if they have. But again, if it's coming from the government, that's where the protection lies. Right.
00:42:26.120um you could write if you want to write a book about such idiocy go right ahead and see who0.99
00:42:31.900don't have a disconnect you would i agree with you the teacher should go i thought you were0.99
00:42:36.960it's just the i just thought you were referring to like that type of hate speech should be illegal
00:42:41.660for everybody just in common every day but you know what's funny you know where it is illegal
00:42:47.380tom germany yes yeah absolutely yeah and how can how can the and everybody points to germany
00:42:56.100Germany and I've traveled to Germany and their acknowledgement and ownership and education
00:43:01.700surrounding the Holocaust is impressive. If we all follow their lead from how they've responded0.83
00:43:10.520to such an incredible, horrific atrocity, we would all be better people for it. I'll tell you a cool
00:43:17.500story. First of all, so you can't, anybody that denies the Holocaust in Germany, it's, I don't
00:43:22.400know if it's an immediate jail or if it's an immediate fine, but it's illegal. But you cannot
00:43:28.340deny the Holocaust. When I went to Munich for the first time, I went to somewhere called the1.00
00:43:33.100Hopferhaus. And it's this beer hall, very, very famous beer hall. It's where Hitler would have
00:43:37.960his rallies. And the whole thing was taken over by the Nazis. And there was Nazi everywhere,
00:43:43.920all on the ceiling. The walls were all painted with swastikas and all of this Nazi paraffin.0.85
00:43:49.360it's just covered. And so I was on a tour with, you know, a whole bunch of kids and we went in
00:43:55.800there. And as we walked in, I knew the story, the history a little bit. Most of my friends were all
00:44:00.740just going to go have, you know, a really large beer. And I was, I was kind of looking around at
00:44:05.260the place and I was looking up at this beautifully. Now the ceiling is this beautiful Michelangelo-esque
00:44:11.340mural. And I'm staring at the ceiling. And as I look up, I swear to God, Tom, I see a swastika
00:44:16.940And I went, what the? And I started to sweat. Like, I'm like, what is going on? And nobody else is noticing because they're all getting drunk already. And a gentleman who runs the place came up behind me and he's like, do you mind if I talk to you for a second? I can see that you're looking at the ceiling. And I said, sure. He goes, have you noticed there's a few images that might be disturbing? I said, yeah, I did. And I don't feel very good about it.
00:44:41.320And he introduced himself and he was the manager of the place or whatever. And he goes, well, this is the story. So he told me the story about how it was taken over. And then when, you know, Hitler was gone and all of the restitutions were being made and they were making these incredible transitions, he goes, we had a choice.
00:44:59.380and it's kind of a cool metaphor and real story we had a choice we could paint over it all or
00:45:06.900we could paint over most of it both physically and metaphorically and leave up some of our painful
00:45:16.180most disgusting pieces of our history so we will never forget he said that swastika stays there
00:45:25.140And it stays there to make people uncomfortable. It stays there to make us uncomfortable. Because for the rest of all of our lives, we should always look back at that time as being horrific and in the truest sense, never let it happen again to any other, not just to the Jewish community, but to anybody else.
00:45:45.780And I, Canada hasn't worked like that until very forcibly, very recently, you know, we're starting to try to atone. The United States doesn't work like that. We have countries that just, sure, they'll acknowledge it in passing. We had slavery. No, you didn't just have slavery. Your country exists in a successful and like powerful way because, right?0.55
00:46:11.860Yeah. We are not the nation we became if we did not kill off one race while enslaving another. It doesn't happen. It just simply does not happen.1.00
00:46:28.580And that's kind of the thing I was getting at before. Right. Is that is that I don't need to sit here and be self deprecating.
00:46:35.300i love my life i'm very happy with my life i don't walk around miserable all day long but i need to
00:46:42.280be able to acknowledge the path i was given because of those things too many people don't
00:46:49.520want to do that because it's it's kind of like admitting that you didn't do any of this yourself
00:46:54.680what was that thing under obama you didn't build that you still built your life you took advantages
00:47:01.360of everything that was in front of you you didn't have say over what was put in front of you you
00:47:06.000just need to acknowledge how it got put in front of you if i'm handed the keys to a brand new
00:47:10.880cadillac at 16 i don't get to drive around going check it out yo you know what i mean i got me a
00:47:16.800caddy yeah yeah yeah absolutely and i just you know and i i think that that's true of the united
00:47:25.360States, and it's true of Canada in a lot of ways, but what makes, I think, most rational people
00:47:32.180very nervous are the extremes. Are these extremes that can't sit down and have a rational conversation
00:47:39.020because you guys elected a new president, and legitimately, I'll say that, elected a new
00:47:45.600president but you still have 70 million people walking around your country thinking
00:47:53.440that the other guy was a better choice and to me it that division is one that needs to be fixed and
00:48:03.760i only see one way to fix that i don't see it and a lot of people that listen to my podcast
00:48:08.160or listen to me on tick tock i don't see it by yelling at the right if if you can't talk if you
00:48:14.720can't keep your cool with the other side then that division just it's gonna it'll bring down
00:48:20.720the whole house anyway i i try to remain calm i think you see that in my videos
00:48:27.200uh it's not easy all the time considering some of the things that we deal with on a day-to-day
00:48:33.760basis yeah um but yeah i i i think that that is the way we need we need to continue to remain calm
00:48:39.600the 71 million people listen everybody can go around thinking that their guy was the better
00:48:47.960choice right i thought hillary was the better choice for four years the difference is you can
00:48:53.820think that he's a better choice without actively thinking that everything about that election was
00:49:01.840right right none of it's real the guy's really not the real president okay you know what
00:51:53.460I want a safe place to raise my kids if kids are part of the equation.
00:51:56.140I want to be able to earn my money and be left alone and live a happy life.
00:51:58.860And you'll find that one of the reasons why America, for all of its flaws and all of its downfalls, has worked is that what it is essentially is a conglomeration of people that all want that.
00:52:10.140we just disagree on how to go about getting there and the disagreement on how to go about getting
00:52:15.960there has just become so massively wide and tribal that we forgot that we all want the same thing
00:52:24.380that's all we got to start talking to people about i guy across the street libertarian guy behind me
00:52:31.740hardcore trump supporter guy next to me not political at all but probably one of the most
00:52:38.800religious people i've ever met as you know i'm an atheist so i'm surrounded by people that don't
00:52:42.900think like me and we all get along great because we all want the same thing we all want this
00:52:48.180community to be safe and happy and successful i don't care who you voted for and what your policy
00:52:53.680differences are as long as we can agree on the fundamental block of life that we want the same
00:52:59.360type of happiness then we can start talking about policy we moved beyond that and now it's all about0.99
00:53:04.540as you said well your guy sucks we'll know your guy sucks we'll know your guys i'll tell you what0.99
00:53:10.020as you said take the guys out of it yeah you're talking to a 49 year old white male take the guys1.00
00:53:16.560out of it let the women run the world and let's see what happens you know what's funny about that
00:53:24.620so speaking of tv and movies and we should do a whole thing on movies by the way because i feel0.99
00:53:28.980like we'd have a great conversation about that but speaking of t so i've been watching the morning
00:53:32.400show. Have you watched the morning show at all? Jennifer Aniston. Okay. So the premise is the
00:53:38.940Me Too movement in a newsroom, it all goes to hell and the women sort of get their, like they're kind0.77
00:53:44.220of taking back this power, but there's so much infighting. Here's my, here's my preach, not1.00
00:53:50.240against giving women power, but here's my problem. A lot of the time when you try to change the0.99
00:53:56.400system from within, the system changes you. So we have a lot of very smart women playing a very1.00
00:54:02.900stupid game. And when you play that game long enough, your sex, your gender identifiers,1.00
00:54:11.040your skin color cease to matter because you're still trying to play the broken game that was
00:54:17.800created years ago rather than actually doing or saying what's right. My favorite quote is actually0.99
00:54:24.740from your favorite president and and the quote goes something like i'd like to have god on my
00:54:29.540side but i must have kentucky i am this is why lincoln can't be my favorite president because i
00:54:35.300am so tired of that being true for every politician i i believe me i feel you i live down here
00:54:43.860it's aggravating it is just the level of that stuff that we see on the state level
00:54:52.500is enough to drive you mad let alone taking that across the whole country and just think about
00:54:59.380the political cycle in the united states of america does not ever stop there is no well can't
00:55:06.420you guys are electing somebody every five minutes there is no law there is no more election season
00:55:11.140it is all election season you you see i don't know if you've ever stopped into any of my lives
00:55:16.420uh for a long period of time what's one of the questions i get asked the most other than the
00:55:21.220guitar who do you got in 24 what do you got in 24 24 we're not even in 22 yet we got a whole
00:55:27.940midterm to get through i can't even think about 24 yet do you think that like and and just to tap
00:55:37.140into this do you got do you think that your version of separation of powers and and let's say
00:55:44.500electing people so often is detrimental to fundamental aspects of democracy meaning
00:55:53.300if i'm elected for two years to congress i'm i'm working for a year and running for a year
00:55:58.500do you think that that is inherently problematic and i'm trying to represent 800 000 people
00:56:04.260is that inherently problematic to a balance of democracy where sure we want elections and we0.98
00:56:09.620we want accountability but we also need you to do your damn job yeah it's no the system isn't0.97
00:56:16.420it's what has crept into the system right and it's how these these and i say guys because it's0.98
00:56:22.020predominantly guys how these guys get elected and that's why i'm not in favor of changing the system
00:56:27.220nor am i necessarily in favor of a big thing that's very popular down here is installing term
00:56:32.580limits what i'm in favor of is just regulating congress right making sure that they can't collect
00:56:39.220money from outside their district or state when they're running making sure that corporations
00:56:42.980and organizations whatever so if you reform them to the point where they can't get rich off the
00:56:49.060system and there's no money for them to go beg for then they have to do their job and they're
00:56:54.500not beholden to anybody then you get the cream of the crop in my opinion you get people who actually
00:57:00.340want to serve rather than get powerful which is what we have now you enter congress you enter
00:57:06.420politics to gain power and money. If you can't gain money and power through Congress, then
00:57:13.540you're going to be the people who wants to serve. At least that's the way I hope it turns out.
00:57:19.260It's, but again, and then I come back to serve who and serve them how, right? Like if I'm a
00:57:25.860congressman in the United States, I'm representing approximately 800,000 people. How on God's green
00:57:32.780earth, am I supposed to adequately, democratically, legitimately serve those people? I think even in
00:57:42.280that situation, and I'll go you one step further, when the majority of those people, as we're seeing
00:57:48.140in some of your states right now, want asinine things, let's say, right? Am I supposed to serve
00:57:56.100those people because the true democracy consistently has to balance majority rule and minority rights
00:58:03.620and so when the majority of my and a lot of the issue a lot of people are talking about this last
00:58:10.020election and your govern you know the the elections that went on in george and virginia
00:58:14.200they're saying you want to know what your problem was you you had people telling us how to parent
00:58:20.120That was a big, I feel like that was a big thing. Who can use what bathrooms, what books that we're supposed to have. And you had politicians step inside our classrooms when parents should have every right. But what happens when all the parents in that district don't want you to teach evolution?
00:58:36.740so that is a problem that happened in virginia okay and it's something that's currently a flash
00:58:43.620point in the united states of america so what we have right now is okay so i'm the parent of three
00:58:50.580kids one of them that's out of school was in high school probably somebody that you would wind up
00:58:54.820teaching and then a fourth grade and and i have a ton of say when i go to my school board meetings
00:59:02.500i'm a taxpayer i'm a parent i want my voice heard but at the end of the day the board gets to make
00:59:10.180the decision and if i'm unhappy with the board then it's my job and my duty to make sure that
00:59:16.180that board member is replaced in the next election now what we have are conservative right family
00:59:23.460members the parents that are no longer abiding by that system we have we have groups of parents
00:59:31.060who are entering school board members and telling the school board, you guys are all placed under0.97
00:59:35.680citizens of rats. We're removing you from power tonight. And we are, this gentleman over here,0.96
00:59:42.220he's going to go ahead and read these people into, swear them into your position. Without an
00:59:48.520election, without a ballot, this is happening in the United States of America because they disagree
00:59:53.440with what the board is doing. Why? Because the board is predominantly trying to have mask
00:59:59.400maintenance. That's the thing that's the big issue down here. CRT is not even an issue. It's a college thing. Yeah, it's masks. This whole, like the worst thing we've ever done. You know how much my kids care about masks, Tom? None. They could give a flying poop. They don't care at all. They're kind of annoyed by it, but really don't care.
01:00:20.680here looking as a fashion statement what do you got you know what do you got on your man it is
01:00:28.080not and and down here i we the argument is it had all the time my children so my two daughters and
01:00:35.440my son have talked to me talked to me infinitely more about mass shooter drills active shooter
01:00:42.460drills and hiding in bathrooms and and and things that go on in the school in order to keep them
01:00:48.460safe than they ever did about about masks right and that's what i'm saying my nine-year-old goes
01:00:55.420to school and wears a mask all day long doesn't say about it but when they do that drill well
01:01:02.540you better believe i hear about that drill that night there you go i just feel like we they people0.97
01:01:09.740have chosen certain things in order to in order to reassert parental power and what scares the crap
01:01:18.380at him even here by the way so here and i know we're running out of time but here in ontario so
01:01:24.700each province different than you guys each province decides on provincial curriculum so
01:01:29.820elementary and high schools all have their curriculum sets by the by the ministry of
01:01:33.980education in the province so every school follows the same curriculum you might use different books
01:01:39.020to to get at that curriculum but you follow the same curriculum which i you know obviously i
01:01:43.900I appreciate, even though I don't love some of the curriculum. But the premier that we have right
01:01:48.940now is fairly right wing. And he decided he didn't like the sex ed curriculum. So what did this guy
01:01:55.620do? He reverts to 1998. He goes, I'm wiping out the curriculum that we're using for sex ed now
01:02:02.080because it's too much and parents don't like it. And parents are pulling their kid from the
01:02:06.200curriculum. We're going to go back to 1998. I'm like, 1998, whenever he was walking around saying
01:02:12.100the F word and not F-U-C-K with impunity? Are you crazy? Are you absolutely mad? You have a bunch0.97
01:02:20.760of parents saying, I don't want my kid learning that, whatever that is. Now, whether it's gender
01:02:27.260diversity, whether it's trans rights, whether you're talking about sexual education, you're1.00
01:02:33.160including same sex and heterosexual couples in safe sex conversations, they're pulling their0.96
01:02:40.020kids out and this is where i have a problem because what i promise you tom is the parents
01:02:45.060that are pulling their kids out of sex ed ain't having the talk at home they're just not getting
01:02:50.760it no and that's right i'm with you as far as the educational standards right but where's the line0.99
01:02:56.720between parent power and and you know i'm a parent i'm a taxpayer and holy crap you guys are0.74
01:03:04.680backwards thinking and you're creating, you're flat out creating scary circumstances for your0.93
01:03:12.140children, by the way, who aren't listening to you anyway. That's a very interesting line for
01:03:18.760democracy, right? Yeah. And as a parent, I want to have as much say as humanly possible. But as
01:03:23.760a parent, I also understand, I think I do anyway, the importance of an education for all, not an
01:03:33.220education for mine. Okay. What I want to teach my kids, I'll teach my kids after class at home.
01:03:40.180I'll teach my kids our way of doing things and how it melds with the way that society is teaching
01:03:45.980them in a classroom. But you need to have some type of universal standard. What people feel,
01:03:54.380I think, to understand is it's not just, so I try to look at it as not just my child,
01:04:00.200but look at it as that that's the future workforce of my country right this is the next generation
01:04:06.040that's going to keep this country going i want them to be uniformly educated i don't want kids
01:04:10.760coming out of texas thinking that dinosaurs aren't real and the earth is 6 000 years old
01:04:15.480and going to college with kids coming out of new york that actually a brainstem i'm sorry to put it
01:04:21.480that way but you know what i mean it's like whoa but that's not even their fault like that's those
01:04:26.200kids in texas whatever school that's a detriment you're putting an anvil around their neck and
01:04:31.240then sending them out into the world and expecting them to be successful i worked for a gentleman
01:04:35.800and by the way if you have a time limit you let me know i i'm fine on time
01:04:42.120i worked for a gentleman oddly enough uh in the uh in the late 90s early 2000s uh
01:04:51.080that was a very hardcore right-wing fundamental christian he belonged to one of these mega
01:04:55.960churches with 15 000 people in it and whatever right he didn't like the way the school taught
01:05:02.680the kids so they homeschooled their kids and he was very open with me about what they taught their
01:05:08.200kids and what they taught their kids was the state level curriculum for homeschooling which met the
01:05:13.880regular school's level of of of teaching and then his wife would teach them what was wrong about
01:05:20.760them right so they would teach them about dinosaurs and then he this this one really
01:05:25.960stuck out with me and then he said and then we teach him that dinosaurs aren't real that dinosaurs
01:05:31.240dinosaur bones are placed there by the devil to test our belief and i said wait you taught your
01:05:41.320kids that he's like well that's what it is the devil placed those things dinosaurs didn't exist
01:05:46.520and i'm like what i i can't like it's so difficult to be respectful sometimes
01:05:55.900and i want to be respectful and then i i almost some days look at it like abuse like i and i
01:06:03.940somebody's going to get really mad at me about that but when you are handicapping your kids to
01:06:09.420that extent um and then and then expecting them to step out into the world and and somehow function0.94
01:06:18.860it's it's a level i don't i don't even know how to i i had a gentleman duet me this morning and
01:06:27.660you know what i don't know when this is going to air but the day that we're doing it he duetted me
01:06:32.140this morning sunday morning the 14th and he basically said you know what i don't agree with
01:06:38.780a lot of the stuff you're saying but i'm never going to call you out on you know i want to
01:06:42.300listen to what you have to say blah blah okay it was a nice little message it was a weird video
01:06:46.700but and then at the end of it his little little little little son three four came into the video
01:06:55.100it just kind of like wandered into the video and the guy goes oh and by the way this is and
01:06:58.460he rattled off the son's name and he goes he's the next little conservative and i thought
01:07:04.860well how do you know that you know your child hasn't developed their own personality yet
01:07:12.060you know i as a parent when my i'll tell you what i said this is the exact quote i'll never forget
01:07:18.900it my first child was born magnolia my oldest my 20 year old i was in the hospital and they handed
01:07:24.280her to me for the very first time and i looked down at her and i said you are going to sit at
01:07:29.880the head of all tables that's what i said to her i wanted to install her instill in her a positive
01:07:37.700message right at right at the start because i had a path planned out for her this is what you're
01:07:44.800going to do with your life and you are going to be great and you are going to be successful and
01:07:49.040i'm going to be behind you cheering you on and none of that has happened because they develop
01:07:55.460their own personalities to say your child is going to be x shows that you do not know human nature
01:08:03.140listen i'm a hippie that wears sandals is covered in tattoos and didn't graduate from high school
01:08:08.740and can't even really bring himself to put on pants most days my son goes to my son's nine
01:08:15.300and goes to school in a bow tie it's amazing he loves him he's got 13 bow ties i wish i knew how
01:08:22.180it's great just let your kids to anybody watching this let your kids develop their own personality
01:08:28.740you're going to love watching it develop that's an amazing you know what tom i'm going to end
01:08:34.580because only because that's the most perfect statement of all can i ask you one question
01:08:40.100unlearn 16 where'd you get the title well it's very socratic right so the whole idea of unlearning
01:08:46.660comes from socrates there's also a clothing company that came out during pride it was all
01:08:50.500all about unlearning. And so this notion, and I feel very strongly about it, that whether we come
01:08:56.680from the best or the worst parents, society, whatever, there's a lot of stereotypes and
01:09:02.260prejudice and ways of thinking that have been shoved in our head. Most psychiatrists and
01:09:06.780psychologists say by five, a lot of your identity, a lot of who you're going to be gets formed either
01:09:12.220because of or in spite of. And my goal, I think, is to pull that stereotype out, pull the prejudice
01:09:19.680out pull the predetermined ideas out as adults examine them find out how much you got to throw
01:09:26.720away and make room for new learning so basically the title of your podcast is what we were just
01:09:31.360talking about let your kids develop their own personality absolutely absolutely and and you
01:09:38.320can't you you can you can do it to the best that you can possibly do it but your kid will be sitting
01:09:44.560like you were talking about your father right your kid's going to be sitting at that table so there's
01:09:48.320pieces of that that got put in there there's pieces of my grandmother you know and i love
01:09:53.840her to death but there's peace we all have these pieces pieces for media from when we grow up that
01:09:59.120have been put in our heads and it's our job to actively purposefully pull them out of that and
01:10:06.720i think the best way to do it is yes education but be more importantly people diversifying who you
01:10:13.760talk to who you surround yourself with where you travel and get to know people of all different
01:10:20.160colors and ethnicities and and backgrounds and religions and everything and the more of those0.99
01:10:25.440people you talk to the less you have room for you know that kind of garbage absolutely0.96
01:10:32.480and that's it it's tom so guys this is tom powell so your your tick tock is just0.95
01:10:37.200at tom powell jr i'm gonna put it below here tom powell jr what's that at tom powell jr on tick
01:10:44.160tock do you have anything else you have a book that you said you you want everything you can
01:10:47.360find out about me you can just find out at my website old hippie media.com my books my podcast
01:10:52.000all of it amazing and i will put all of that underneath thank you so much for hanging out
01:10:57.760and i hope we can do another one i think we should do a movie one next time you you pick the topic
01:11:01.760and I'm down to have another one of these anytime.