Unlearn16: Class is in Session - November 08, 2022


The One Where I Unionize, Educate and Strike - Oh My

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00:00:00.000 class is in session hey how you doing welcome to unlearn 16 classes in session you just got
00:00:08.440 me today guys just me myself and a lot of pent-up anger um what i'm going to talk about today is
00:00:17.900 actually been going on in ontario canada right now and it's kind of popped off in the last week
00:00:24.840 even though it has been building steam for quite some time. And obviously, I'm on social media a
00:00:30.440 lot, sort of running my mouth as I tend to do. And I've been over on TikTok, because I love it there.
00:00:36.720 And of course, I go over to Twitter. And Twitter's a very different animal. It's a very angry animal.
00:00:43.800 It's not for the faint of heart. So let me first break you into what's going on in Ontario
00:00:51.420 regarding teachers and regarding educational workers, and then I'm going to go through my
00:00:57.840 perspective, sort of the anger that has hit me, and then what I think the solutions are. So here
00:01:04.820 we go. First and foremost, what's happening in Ontario is that educational support workers under
00:01:10.400 the union QP, so we're talking about educational assistants, ECEs, we're talking about administrative
00:01:17.860 staff, janitorial staff, all of the educational support was everybody but teachers who are in a
00:01:25.740 different union altogether. And that's a bit of a problem, in my opinion, but a different union
00:01:29.640 altogether. They have been bargaining with the Ontario government for quite some time and have
00:01:36.280 come to no resolution. They had a vote in their union, which is policy, and they got a very
00:01:42.900 substantial strike mandate. And what that means is if as a union, you're able to go on strike,
00:01:50.860 you need to have a significant body of your union itself vote to go on strike. So they have that.
00:01:59.420 I can't remember the number, so I don't want to say them on here, but they had a significant
00:02:03.080 strike mandate. Now, they demanded X amount. The government came back with nothing. To be honest,
00:02:11.380 I think the very first problem is that the public is aware of what's going on behind closed doors
00:02:16.500 at all. So the first and foremost problem is the fact that when you are collectively bargaining,
00:02:21.860 which is a charter right in Canada, so it's a constitutional right in Canada,
00:02:26.340 when you're collectively bargaining, it is supposed to be done in good faith. And when
00:02:29.700 you say things are done in good faith, it's not supposed to go to the media.
00:02:33.460 It's not supposed to be public knowledge. We shouldn't be talking about 11%. We shouldn't
00:02:38.260 be talking about infrastructure spending as the public. We shouldn't know any of that,
00:02:43.380 but somehow we always do. And it usually is the government releasing this information,
00:02:49.220 which I don't understand how that happens and how that's allowed to happen. But bygones,
00:02:54.980 let's move on from that. So the demands were made. The strike mandate was set. The government
00:03:00.420 didn't want to budge. The union reduced how much money they wanted. Everybody was done. The union
00:03:06.660 said, we're striking. So the Ford government, in an insane move, decided to vote and invoke
00:03:17.920 something called in Canada, the notwithstanding clause. And without getting into it so incredibly
00:03:24.360 specifically, because it is confusing, think about it like this. In 1982, when Canada created its own
00:03:30.860 constitution, prior to that, we followed the British constitutional framework. But in 1982,
00:03:36.660 We created and passed our own under Pierre Trudeau. Yes, Justin Trudeau's dad. And in that moment, a lot of provinces, a few key provinces didn't want to sign on to this new charter because they thought that this charter and these federal regulations could discriminatorily impact specific provinces more than another.
00:04:01.000 Let me give you an example. So if I said something like there is, you know, the entire country is
00:04:08.200 bilingual and everything has to be done bilingually. Well, Quebec could raise a question
00:04:14.400 and raise a constitutional question stating that as a French province, and especially when they
00:04:20.520 signed on to the constitution as a French province, they have to protect their French language rights.
00:04:25.520 and we have given them credit to do so. So this kind of overarching charter right might start to
00:04:34.160 discriminatorily, individually supersede their language rights in their province. And therefore,
00:04:40.160 they might use and have used, Quebec has used the notwithstanding clause 21 times,
00:04:44.640 and might use it to protect the federal government from particularly intruding upon
00:04:50.880 their province in a specific way. Another province who could have a problem with the charter or with
00:04:57.060 these kind of things would be Alberta, because Alberta obviously has a lot of our natural
00:05:02.020 resources. So when it comes to distribution of money or distribution of wealth, Alberta could
00:05:10.100 have a disproportional sort of need to protect a resource that Ontario doesn't have, right?
00:05:17.940 Different provinces have different needs, and they have different things they're bringing to the table.
00:05:22.200 So I understand the notwithstanding clause being used in that framework.
00:05:26.340 Doug Ford didn't do that.
00:05:28.400 This has nothing to do with the federal government imposing anything.
00:05:32.780 This has to do with a labor dispute within his province, a legal labor dispute, a legal strike action taking place.
00:05:44.600 And because he knows he can't legislate it around it, by the way, the last time this
00:05:48.860 happened, Kathleen, I think in 2015, legislated teachers back to work and later teachers took
00:05:55.460 her to court and won a constitutional argument saying she never had the power to do so and
00:06:01.320 they had to pay a bunch of money.
00:06:02.880 So Ford's people know this.
00:06:04.600 I'm sure Ford doesn't know this, but Ford's people know this.
00:06:07.440 So he has to take a different route.
00:06:09.900 So what does he do?
00:06:10.720 Well, he doesn't legislate.
00:06:11.880 There's no simple law. 0.97
00:06:12.920 He uses this very, very seldomly used notwithstanding clause and applies it in a completely asinine
00:06:24.160 way and applies it and says, you have to go back to work.
00:06:28.080 Now, have they gone back to work?
00:06:29.860 No, they all went on strike on Friday.
00:06:32.620 Everybody walked out and everybody is upset.
00:06:36.780 So first and foremost, I go into social media, obviously defending two things, defending the incredible importance of EAs and ECEs and defending the importance of obviously custodial staff and janitorial staff and all of those individuals, defending the importance of a strong administrative body that runs schools and makes everything run smooth.
00:07:04.420 all of those things are necessarily important. And EAs for a very long time, and I'm going to
00:07:10.340 get to something that EAs do, but EAs for a very long time have been significantly underpaid and
00:07:16.400 not just underpaid because they do such an amazing job. And I'm comparing what their pay is compared
00:07:23.220 to what they do. Underpaid because that's how the government has set it up because they've done the
00:07:28.640 same kind of crap in the healthcare industry. Let me be clear. So back in the day, we used to have 0.96
00:07:36.860 streaming, right? We used to have kids with different learning abilities, different capacities,
00:07:42.160 different potential, maybe with hearing impairments, visual impairments, maybe with
00:07:47.100 physical disabilities, maybe learning disabilities. And all of these kids back in my time,
00:07:55.340 yes, I am 47, they would have been put in another room. They would have put in lower academic
00:08:00.780 classes. They never would have been integrated into the sort of regular stream classes. They
00:08:06.480 would have been segregated and said, we have to deal with them over here because the standard
00:08:11.460 streaming can't deal with all of those exceptionalities. In the last, I would say,
00:08:17.260 20 years, longer since, but really in the last 20 years, we've seen a significant push away from
00:08:24.420 that. Understanding a few things. Understanding that just because a kid doesn't learn in the
00:08:31.380 static way that the educational system has been set up, i.e. sit down, take notes, write notes,
00:08:38.100 eventually memorize them all, and then regurgitate it on a test and exam. Just because a kid can't
00:08:44.300 perform in that capacity does not mean they're not intelligent, does not mean they're not capable,
00:08:49.440 and does not mean that they don't have a firm grasp on the information
00:08:54.080 and the level of education that they should have a firm grasp on
00:08:59.240 in order to do well in that class and move on.
00:09:02.560 So in the last 20 years, we've come to a lot of different sort of acknowledgements,
00:09:06.940 A, different learning styles and different learning capacities, right?
00:09:12.480 You'll hear people who are auditory learners, visual learners,
00:09:16.600 who are bodily kinesthetic learners, all these different kind of learners. Now, can we accommodate
00:09:21.140 for them all? Absolutely, we can't. I get it. We can't. Can we accommodate for more? Yes, we can.
00:09:30.560 Absolutely, we can. If a kid can't sit down and write a test for some reason or another,
00:09:37.300 whatever the processing difficulty is, yet can stand in front of me and talk about World War II
00:09:44.740 with the depth and level of articulation that would be impressive to anybody, why wouldn't
00:09:53.260 that kid get the mark? Why wouldn't that kid be understood? And why wouldn't that student be passed
00:10:00.300 and be given good marks and decent marks in order to go ahead and be successful? There's no reason.
00:10:05.840 The only reason in the past was the standard answer. This is how we do it. And if you can't
00:10:10.740 it the way we do it you're not right so a lot of those kids back in the day and a lot of people
00:10:15.380 are wondering why is it so different well i'll tell you why it was different because 20 30 years
00:10:18.900 ago those kids were kicked out of school those kids would fail out of school those kids would
00:10:24.260 be deemed to be problem kids troubled kids those kids would be they would people would make
00:10:30.580 assumptions about their level of intelligence and capacity and relegate them to open courses
00:10:36.500 They are never going to college. They are never going to university. We had done a huge disservice
00:10:43.180 to a whole bunch of kids. And I sometimes sit back and wonder, I wonder how many geniuses we lost.
00:10:48.460 I wonder how many brilliant kids we actually let slip through the cracks and ignore, not even slip
00:10:55.500 through the cracks, actually kicked out the door because we didn't have a system that could
00:11:00.500 accommodate and that could change and that could be a little bit more fluid in its application of
00:11:05.280 education. I wonder that. And now we have a money problem. So back in the day, they were in separate
00:11:12.300 places. And at some point in the mid 70s to pushing the 80s, we started realizing that
00:11:19.580 individuals with different abilities, back then it was called a disability, but with different
00:11:23.680 abilities, had the potential, had the capacity to do better and to do more. And in order to see how
00:11:31.100 they were going to work in this world, it made sense academically to integrate them into mainstream
00:11:38.700 classes. And when we did that in high school, there's one effect. When we did that in elementary
00:11:43.500 school, we had a problem because some of these kids either socially, physically, sometimes mentally
00:11:50.220 couldn't quite integrate quick enough or well enough or smooth enough. And so educational
00:11:56.780 assistants were put into that classroom in order to help, you know, improve their chances of
00:12:02.600 becoming successful. Now, there's two reasons we did that. We did that to help the kids get
00:12:08.340 successful. Absolutely, we did. I think there's also a motivation here and an underlying motivation
00:12:13.700 that did this. We also wanted a good teacher to student ratio. Now, teachers in Ontario have been
00:12:20.360 paid very well. I'll be the first person to say that. I think they deserve every cent, but they
00:12:25.660 have been paid very well. And a union and the fight of a union has been a big reason for that.
00:12:32.100 Now, if I'm going to put 20, 25, 30 kids in a class with no exceptionalities,
00:12:38.820 that's not that hard as a teacher. Are you with me so far?
00:12:46.040 It's not that hard to regulate that kind of class, to teach that kind of class,
00:12:50.300 to understand that everybody's going to be on the same page and I can have one learning style and
00:12:54.640 one set of expectations and I don't need to adjust. I don't need to accommodate. I don't
00:12:58.460 need to change my methodology for anybody in that room. But as soon as I start integrating into that
00:13:04.720 class, as soon as I start having different exceptionalities, kids that are battling through
00:13:09.880 autism, kids that are dyslexic, kids that are visually impaired, hearing impaired,
00:13:15.500 all of those things, by the way, do not in no way, shape or form limit the level of intelligence or
00:13:24.200 capacity in that student, but what will limit the level of capacity is how much we are willing to
00:13:30.120 accommodate and shape a system in order to get the best out of them. Now, the public system
00:13:36.660 doesn't want to hire more teachers. Why? Well, we're expensive. That makes sense.
00:13:44.860 They don't want to have fewer kids in a classroom. As you guys all might know, I work in a private
00:13:50.500 school i teach kids with different um learning abilities i teach kids that are on the spectrum
00:13:57.060 with dyslexia with all of these things yet yet i have class sizes that are 10 15 students
00:14:05.780 so what i can do is i can do all those magical things that a lot of teachers can do if their
00:14:11.220 class sizes were small enough if they're not and you have 20 25 30 kids in a class then you need
00:14:18.740 help. You need help to help the students who aren't necessarily on the exact same path as
00:14:25.620 everybody else. You need help. They need help in order to bring them up to speed, to make them feel
00:14:30.340 confident, to make them feel empowered, to give them a fighting chance to be successful in the
00:14:36.880 ways that you need them to be successful in. So all of this is true. But the brilliance they did
00:14:42.540 with EAs is they did this. They told EAs they need less education than a typical teacher would.
00:14:50.400 And since they needed less education, they would be paid less. Since we were going to slightly
00:14:55.520 change their expectations, they wouldn't have the same pay grade. This is a brilliant way to
00:15:02.560 put more adults in the room who are completely capable and amazing and dedicated to those
00:15:09.200 students, but one of those adults, we can pay as the public board, 50% less, 60% less in some cases.
00:15:21.640 So it's a way you save money, right? And I often look at these EAs and what they do and how amazing
00:15:29.020 they are. And by the way, I haven't even got to, and I'm not going to speak to it in depth because
00:15:33.760 I don't have as much experience, but I haven't even got to. The physical job they have. The
00:15:39.420 Ontario government has just downloaded more healthcare responsibilities to EAs. So they
00:15:45.700 have to deal with kids that have physical outbursts, that have other issues, health issues.
00:15:52.240 And I'm not going to go into all of them right here, but other health issues that should be held
00:15:56.400 or should be dealt with by healthcare professionals. But they're not. They're now
00:16:02.800 being downloaded to the EAs. The EA is getting more work and now the EAs and now this group of
00:16:08.280 people are starting to demand to be paid more. And it's not just pay, by the way. There was a
00:16:13.480 whole list of demands, again, which we shouldn't have seen during negotiations that seemed
00:16:18.880 relatively rational to me. So all this comes to a head. And the response by the Ford government
00:16:26.380 is they're essential. They're essential. How dare they, right after COVID and after all this,
00:16:32.800 how dare they keep kids out of the room? They don't care about kids. They don't care about
00:16:36.180 kids. And the Ford government keeps pushing this agenda. My initial response is make them essential. 0.60
00:16:41.900 A lot of people don't understand this. Nurses are essential. Firefighters are essential. 0.99
00:16:48.400 Police officers are essential. Why? Well, they were made essential and they're all unionized,
00:16:53.520 which means they cannot strike. Because if they went on strike, the power they could wield
00:16:58.500 And the dangers would be physical, right? Life and death dangers, physical dangers that they could wield. And that's way too much power for a union to have. But here's the tradeoff. Since they can't strike, what happens is when, let's say nurses, when nurses can't come to a contract negotiation conclusion with management, an arbitrator is called in.
00:17:22.260 And this arbitrator will sit down, will look at both sides of the equation, look at what's being asked, look at what management wants.
00:17:29.000 They will then look at precedent and labor law, and then they will apply a fair and just contract.
00:17:37.200 Why not do that with educational workers?
00:17:40.200 Some people would say, well, it's not life and death, Joanna.
00:17:43.680 That's not the case here.
00:17:44.900 And it needs to be life and death.
00:17:47.220 However, have we not spent the last two years, the government anyways, professing that it is?
00:17:54.600 Have we not spoken about how kids being out of school is actually such a significant mental health crisis that kids' lives were being lost?
00:18:09.660 And if that's the case, if that's the case, can we not now make teachers essential?
00:18:16.620 and educational workers essential this is an essential part mental health is an essential part
00:18:23.900 of our physical well-being it is life and death so why can't we make that so i'll tell you why
00:18:32.460 they don't want to make it so and there's one really good reason because the government would
00:18:36.540 lose calling in an arbitrator would mean that the government and what they're offering
00:18:44.620 is so bare bones that the arbitrator would never agree with the government. And the government
00:18:53.500 doesn't want to roll that dice, so they won't even consider making them essential. And going
00:18:58.620 through this kind of constitutional arrangement that we would have to change the nature of
00:19:03.380 education, well, maybe now's the time. Maybe now's the time. I will not sit here and say
00:19:11.980 what a person's job is valued at, that's an incredibly difficult, very, very difficult
00:19:19.940 thing to do. And a lot of people outside of it are very quick to say they're not worth it.
00:19:26.080 Do you know what I get paid? Whatever. And a lot of people are very quick to say that. I don't know
00:19:30.800 if I can say that, but I know who can. Somebody who is an expert in that vicinity, right? An
00:19:37.980 arbitrator, studied labor law, educational law, has studied precedent, understands the value of
00:19:45.880 labor and how to apply that accordingly, give the power to them. I'm okay with that. But again,
00:19:53.260 I ask you, why do you think the government isn't? Right? And I sit back and I watch everybody get
00:20:00.300 angry and draw comparisons. And heaven forbid, I'm not going to go into comparisons with
00:20:05.520 the bouncy castle people. I can't. I can't. I supported their right to protest. Absolutely.
00:20:13.280 Absolutely. I support their right to protest, but they didn't protest. They moved in.
00:20:18.680 And their demand, one of their primary demands was that the prime minister resign,
00:20:24.340 a democratically elected prime minister who just was recently elected. These are not the
00:20:29.440 same categories of things. But if you want me to do one on that, I will, even though I have in the
00:20:34.700 past. So now we sit here, right? We sit here with people that have a fundamental disdain,
00:20:43.640 which shocks me considering what it was like when they were home, kids were home for two years. And
00:20:49.820 I thought there would have been a level of respect for what teachers actually do. But now we sit in
00:20:56.480 this position where there's such a disdain. And I think the disdain is for two things, teachers,
00:21:03.600 100%. People have had disdain for teachers. Why? Two reasons. Primarily, they relegated us to being
00:21:11.060 babysitters, which is asinine, but they're also really, really, really angry about the two months
00:21:16.160 off in the summer. They just don't think we put in enough hours to get the pay we get. I can argue
00:21:21.400 that separately. But here's another thing. I think people are really, really mad, really angry at
00:21:29.000 unions and the only people that are really angry at unions are people that are not a part of them
00:21:36.760 and i've i've heard a lot i've gotten a lot of vitriol especially on on twitter about about
00:21:43.080 well do you know what i get paid you know what i go through i don't get this this and this and
00:21:47.720 all i hear in my head even though you can't have a rational discussion on twitter very often 0.98
00:21:51.880 All I hear in my head is, dude, you're getting screwed too. 0.98
00:21:57.220 You should have a union. 0.99
00:21:59.660 You shouldn't be.
00:22:00.620 It's like if they don't have protection, if they don't have this kind of support, if they can't enforce this kind of healthy labor law imbalance of power, people are so angry they don't want anyone to be able to do it.
00:22:16.840 especially when, and let's acknowledge this, especially when, when they do go on strike,
00:22:23.140 your kids are at home. And if your kids are at home, somebody needs to stay home.
00:22:26.440 And I understand the, you know, difficulty, if not impossibility of that particular situation.
00:22:36.020 I get it. And again, remember me over here, make them essential. I agree with it. Make them
00:22:41.880 essential. But the union factor is interesting. And I want to talk about that for a second,
00:22:48.480 because a lot of people are really bitter about unions. But let me be clear.
00:22:52.400 Most of everybody else's job, whether you have a, if you don't have a union, is still contingent
00:22:58.940 upon what the union in other professions has done, and the standards they've set,
00:23:04.960 and the labor precedences they've set, and the way that a lot of those fights have been
00:23:11.080 translated into provincial and federal law. Let me give you one example. Post office workers,
00:23:17.400 postal workers went on strike. Oh gosh, I'm going to mess up this year. I want to say the 80s,
00:23:24.320 went on strike for 42 days or so, and they won a 17-week maternity leave, paternity leave.
00:23:34.160 17 weeks, they won that. Paid paternal leave, maternity, I think just at the time. 0.75
00:23:40.340 And eventually what that translated into, eventually what it translated into was the federal government acknowledging the need and the human right and the labor law precedent of establishing it for everybody in Canada.
00:23:57.920 So you see these unions doing the hard work, not getting paid for 42 days. And we would have been
00:24:03.740 so mad about our mail and so mad about the inconvenience and so mad and so mad and so mad,
00:24:08.800 yet we don't understand that what they fought for, we benefited from. Let me do another one.
00:24:14.080 Teachers, I work in a private school. I say that very, very clearly. The work that public school
00:24:20.860 teachers have done, the benefits, the pay, everything that they have gotten translates
00:24:26.540 into the private system. Why? Because if a private school doesn't acknowledge that pay,
00:24:32.620 doesn't acknowledge those benefits, doesn't acknowledge those working conditions,
00:24:37.500 nobody is going to work at the private school. So the private school has to mirror that if they
00:24:43.280 don't want two things, A, if they want people working there, and B, if they don't want people
00:24:49.260 organizing a union within their facility, which is completely legal across the country.
00:24:54.480 I'll give you one more example. The same thing happens in nursing. Nurses union has unions all
00:25:01.540 over the place. SickKids Hospital is not unionized, but those nurses and that collective bargaining, 0.70
00:25:07.860 sorry, the management and the way in which they deal with their nurses somehow mirrors and
00:25:14.480 beautifully reflects what the Ontario Nurses Association fights for and gets for unionized
00:25:21.480 nurses across Ontario. So kids doesn't want a union. So what do they do? They mirror what the
00:25:28.080 union has fought for. So when people say, I work in a non-unionized environment, I'm a non-unionized
00:25:35.580 teacher. I don't need a union. I'm treated well. Wait a minute. You're treated well because your
00:25:41.620 employer knows they have to. There's also labor law that unions have pushed in that have made
00:25:49.020 these, these legal agreements across the province and across Canada, all of those things have
00:25:54.620 happened, but it's also just more, you know, subtle than that. It's the notion that
00:26:00.860 a private school setting is going to have to mimic a public. It's going to have to make sure
00:26:08.860 that those workers are treated well. And that's not just because the owners are being nice guys.
00:26:15.060 That's not just because the people that run SickKids Hospital want to treat their nurses well.
00:26:20.140 It's because they know they have to.
00:26:22.520 Because the precedent has been fought for.
00:26:25.880 Blood, sweat, and tears by that union to get those rights, to get those benefits, to get those working conditions.
00:26:31.460 And they now translate into non-unionized environments that are comparable.
00:26:37.900 What we should have seen through this whole thing, we should have been fighting for more unionization rather than taking it away.
00:26:44.240 Because the number one place during COVID that was treated horrifically yet still open, grocery stores and pharmacies, all of those places still stayed open.
00:26:59.920 all of those predominantly women predominantly you know uh mothers and and students
00:27:07.120 worked in those places with no union with no sick days with no benefits with nothing
00:27:15.520 the retail industry is probably the most taken advantage of industry period there is no unionization
00:27:25.600 across any board and instead of advocating for if they don't get it i don't how about we start to
00:27:32.720 understand that what we need is more solidarity through all sort of job markets right we've seen
00:27:43.360 inflation go through the roof and people love to talk about that but why are profits up 70
00:27:48.960 percent why when you look at the statistics why when you look at corporate profits over this time
00:27:56.240 and they're claiming inflation and they're claiming it's just because everything costs more
00:28:01.040 why why have their profits risen exponentially to what they were pre-covid corporate greed is a real
00:28:10.640 thing now when you translate all of this back and let's get back to teachers unions and let's get
00:28:15.760 back to the EAs for a second and CUPE workers, here's where it's really problematic for people
00:28:21.660 to swallow. Because it's not a corporation. Because it's not a private entity making money.
00:28:27.340 It's government money. And what people are really upset about is their tax dollars being used
00:28:33.460 inappropriately. And so a lot of people outside of the business just don't understand and don't
00:28:39.520 want their tax dollars going because we know they're limited, right? We know the province
00:28:44.340 has huge debt so there's the fight here's the conversation and here's what politicians don't
00:28:52.340 say well we're going to have a pool of money we're going to take x amount of tax dollars from you
00:28:59.380 and we're going to put it places to get jobs done if you want more serve social services if you want
00:29:06.820 them to be better and this is a simple reality it's going to cost more if you elect a government
00:29:14.340 who reduces your taxes. The only thing that's going to happen is you are going to get less
00:29:21.640 social services than you were getting before. Any government that says, I'm going to reduce
00:29:25.880 your taxes and give you more, they are lying and common sense dictates so. A lot of people,
00:29:31.400 especially in Ontario, say, where are we supposed to get the money? I have an idea.
00:29:35.860 How about all of the license plate sticker money? In Ontario, every year, you pay $130
00:29:42.880 dollars to get a little sticker on your license plate. You register your car every single year.
00:29:47.320 It's a tax. And that money totaled about a billion dollars a year. Well, not too long ago,
00:29:53.840 shockingly, right before the election, Doug Ford says, I'm canceling it. I'm giving it all back.
00:29:59.460 And not only did he cancel it for the year, he actually gave back pay for two years.
00:30:05.420 that money is 1 billion dollars a year 1 billion he decided to give back every canadian that money
00:30:16.100 on their sticker money so in total right now that's 3 billion dollars that was siphoned out
00:30:22.880 of the tax base and then he has the audacity to sit and say we don't have the money you just
00:30:28.560 You had the money. You used it to bribe people. You used it. You used it to say, here, I'm giving
00:30:38.020 you this tax money back because we're so inefficient with our money. We don't need it.
00:30:41.900 We're doing great without it. Of course, we're not. You cannot lower taxes and expect more out
00:30:47.020 of your social services. You just can't. And when it comes to education, a lot of the vitriol I'm
00:30:53.640 also receiving is, well, when I was a kid, when I was a kid, there was 40 kids. Well, we've already
00:31:00.280 gone over that. You didn't have the same kids in your class. And I'm going to take a step further.
00:31:05.880 The education system was worse. I know a lot of people are saying, no, it wasn't. We did great.
00:31:11.320 Look at how we're doing. You know what? First of all, different time, different place. Second of all,
00:31:18.980 As a society, we get smarter and we get better.
00:31:23.060 And if we can understand, I believe there are seven, there might be more now because
00:31:26.900 I'm not old since I've been to teacher's college, but there's seven different learning
00:31:30.240 strategies or learning mentalities.
00:31:35.000 And if we can figure out how to tap into all of them, and if it costs us more money to
00:31:41.160 tap into all of them, but by tapping into all of them, we are ensuring that every single
00:31:46.920 student has the best possible chance for success and to show their brilliance and their capacity
00:31:55.240 and their ability to then transfer those skills to higher education and in the working world
00:32:00.600 doesn't that benefit all of us isn't that money well spent you want to reduce future issues of
00:32:12.360 unemployment of welfare of of health care needs because we all know the lower the
00:32:19.400 socioeconomic class the greater the health care requirements if we want to lower crime
00:32:28.200 we start by pouring money into education period and if you say you don't want to i get it you
00:32:37.080 can say i want my money going somewhere else i think you're wrong and i would have that discussion
00:32:41.480 i think you are fundamentally wrong because that's where if that is where money is poured into if
00:32:48.360 that's the only place think of it like this because we don't do this with health care either
00:32:53.000 and i think i should do an entire other podcast and please let me know in the comments if you
00:32:56.440 would like about health care education is prevention education isn't waiting for the
00:33:04.040 problem isn't waiting for the health care crisis isn't waiting for the crime rates to go up it
00:33:09.240 It isn't waiting for kids not to have, for adults not to have jobs and transferable skills.
00:33:15.560 Education is preempting all of that.
00:33:19.740 And the scary part is, it's just not clear.
00:33:22.720 When we pour money in education, we just don't see all of those numbers go down equally.
00:33:28.460 They will go down in a generation.
00:33:30.860 And in a generation, you don't just have one politician in charge.
00:33:33.840 So guess what?
00:33:34.420 we as a public need to take some accountability for not voting out people with good plans for
00:33:39.780 the next 20, 30, 40 years. I don't want to plan for now. A plan for now helps somebody get
00:33:48.380 reelected. That's why Doug Ford gave you back your $130. A plan for the future is going to
00:33:53.700 cost a lot of money and you're not going to see the benefits for a generation. You're not going
00:33:58.220 to see benefits until those kids are out of elementary school, out of high school, into
00:34:03.060 college out of college and doing amazing things i have my friend's kid um charlie who loves elon
00:34:11.940 musk and we have our discussions about elon but he points out all the time because charlie's bored
00:34:17.620 in school why because charlie's very very smart and he wants to be challenged in school and he
00:34:22.900 points out that elon musk talks about school isn't needed here's what i'm gonna say i would put money
00:34:30.020 not a lot because i don't have elon musk money but i would put money on the fact
00:34:34.020 that not only when elon musk went to school did he go to some narrow-minded limited version of a
00:34:43.140 school in which it told him to sit down be quiet and write notes and memorize and write the exam
00:34:50.820 and when he didn't do well or he didn't get anything out of it we also on he didn't see
00:34:56.260 the value of it. Elon also talks about getting beat up and bullied horribly as a kid. Of course
00:35:03.100 he was. He's also talked about being on the autistic spectrum, on the autism spectrum. Of
00:35:08.540 course he is. But I think a lot of people would talk about what a genius he is. So what did we do?
00:35:16.260 We built a school system that made a genius have to leave. We weren't doing it right.
00:35:26.260 we weren't doing it right because that guy should have wanted to be in school should have been
00:35:32.640 should have figured out ways we should have figured out ways to challenge and inspire and
00:35:37.420 include and stop the bullying and the harassment and all of that garbage that goes because look at
00:35:43.980 what he's done and a lot of people say well he did it without school what what do you think he
00:35:48.320 could have done if he had school? Possibly. Could he have done more? Could he have solved bigger
00:35:56.280 crises? Could he have understood more about the inner workings of Tesla? Because we all know he's
00:36:02.200 a businessman. He's not necessarily a, you know, he didn't invent Tesla. What else could have
00:36:07.940 happened? And I sometimes think about that. I think about it a lot. I think about all of the
00:36:13.740 kids because a lot of a lot of the times we'll talk about what we've done to women and what 1.00
00:36:18.280 we've done to african americans and the indigenous population it's all horrific and all the doors we 0.99
00:36:22.660 closed and all the people we stopped from progressing and changing the world and all 1.00
00:36:26.580 all of the things we could have been as a society but we stopped people from walking through doors 0.92
00:36:33.660 based on such asinine ridiculous horrific discriminatory thoughts how would how much 0.71
00:36:40.960 further would we have been? Be selfish about it. If you want to be anything, be selfish about it. 0.99
00:36:48.880 And then I apply that to learning exceptionalities. And then I apply that to forms of genius.
00:36:55.180 And then I apply that to kids who just don't fit the mold. And if they don't fit the mold,
00:37:00.640 we kick them out of class and call it a day. What a disaster. How much further along would we have
00:37:06.720 been had there been an ea in the classroom had there been smaller class sizes had there been
00:37:12.160 money poured into education so we could figure out and we could focus on all seven different
00:37:18.560 learning styles in order to maximize every kid's genius out there where do we be
00:37:26.800 would we have cured cancer by now would we have already gone established mars living
00:37:36.720 Right? Would we have solved energy crisis? Would we have figured out how to eliminate levels of poverty and world hunger?
00:37:47.960 But what do we do? We kick those kids out. We said you don't fit the mold. 0.99
00:37:53.360 We said, oh, you just are one of 40, and if you can't figure out how to fit in, you're just going to have to stand outside the room.
00:38:00.960 how many of those kids do we leave behind and selfishly how much did we limit our progress
00:38:13.240 how much did we limit where we could have been i'm done limiting i'm done and the notion of
00:38:21.200 pouring money into education again is about prevention and is about that's the way it's not
00:38:29.180 about it's not about structure it's actually about blowing up structure it's about blowing up
00:38:35.260 one way only it's about opening our eyes and encouraging as many divergent thought processes
00:38:43.520 we possibly can in order to create the smartest population on the planet and that's going to cost
00:38:51.700 money but it's not going to happen by saying well my job is hard well when I was a kid this is the
00:38:58.780 way it is we have to think in the future and in the future and for the future we pour money into
00:39:06.240 it now we pour money into those divergent thought process now and we make sure as many doors can
00:39:15.780 stay open as possible so as many bright amazing geniuses can walk through and do great things
00:39:25.500 and it starts with education. Well, thanks for hanging out with me today, guys. I think maybe
00:39:33.400 we talk about this a little more. Let me know in the comments if you liked it. Let me know in the
00:39:37.100 comments if you have more questions about it. I'm sure that this controversy in this particular
00:39:42.960 state of Ontario, politics and labor relations is definitely not coming to a close anytime soon,
00:39:49.980 but I think this can also be applied to healthcare. This can also be applied to
00:39:54.280 many different avenues within public policy and social justice issues. But thanks for hanging out
00:40:02.020 with me on your Tuesday. I will see you next week. Same bat time, same bat station. Have a good night, guys.
00:40:10.280 Dismissed.