00:00:00.000class is in session hey everybody and welcome to unlearn 16 class is in session today you just get
00:00:09.140me i know it's a letdown after vanessa was here last time but nonetheless i can be slightly
00:00:15.940entertaining um what am i going to focus on today well i have to focus on what's been a very
00:00:22.980significant piece of news that has gone on between last time and this time since we spoke which is
00:00:29.320the actor actress and and writers strike so the SAG strike that has now been voted on
00:00:37.940so that at this moment in the United States and Canada and other parts of the world
00:00:44.800actors actresses and all writers associated with that union are now on strike done not doing
00:00:54.960anything pushing back against the actual industry. So today I'm going to talk about it. Today I'm
00:01:02.080just going to take a minute to talk about a few different elements, the elements that I understand
00:01:07.620so far, because let's be honest, I don't understand it all yet, but I'm going to correct that. Don't
00:01:13.080you worry. Let's talk about what I know. And then hopefully you guys can ask questions. You guys can
00:01:20.840add all sorts of perspectives in the comments below because I'm going to take it to LA next
00:01:27.880week, guys. I'm going to go right to LA. I am going to, through my other social media accounts,
00:01:34.560through this podcast, I am going to go interview as many people as I possibly can to understand
00:01:41.780this strike from their perspective because I think that's incredibly important. So let's get
00:01:48.820into it. First and foremost, I didn't understand who was sitting on the other side of the table.
00:01:56.520So on one side, you have the Screen Actors Guild union, SAG, the actual union itself, right? I get
00:02:05.740that. I get the people that are working. What I don't understand on that avenue is how there are
00:02:14.140union sets. There are non-union sets. And in Canada, for example, and I don't know if this
00:02:21.720works the same in the States, there are sets that have to be a certain percentage of union and then
00:02:27.040can be a certain percentage of non-union actors. Number one, I have a problem. I'm going to set
00:02:32.080that aside for a second because I'm going to tell you my problems in a little bit. And yes,
00:02:36.300I do have a lot. But let's focus on what they're demanding. So on the other side of the table,
00:02:42.220There's some ridiculous acronym. I don't understand what the acronym stands for.0.65
00:02:46.360But in essence, the other side of the table sitting across from the union, the actors union, are the studios.
00:02:53.840And the studios, from what I understand, and I am going to go into this much, much further and in more detail as I learn more, as I talk to more people,
00:03:03.240are pretty, it's pretty much encompassed or includes about 10 people.
00:03:09.020about 10 people who have the money, the capital, the control, the ownership of everything on the
00:03:19.540other side of that fence. I'm going to listen, guys. I'm going to find out who the 10 are. I'm
00:03:26.200going to break it down. I'm going to talk about their money. I'm going to talk about their private
00:03:30.040islands. I'm going to talk about all of it so we can get an idea of who's sitting on the other side.
00:03:34.440I grew up a union kid, right? My mom was a nurse forever. She was then the nursing president of
00:03:41.080St. Mike's. I understand the importance and the foundational roots that a union provides
00:03:47.800and fights for for an entire society. I understand that. But I always understood who my mom and who
00:03:54.360the union was negotiating against or with, depending on which kind of group you got, right?
00:03:59.920On the other side of the table was sitting the hospital. And above that was the government,
00:04:05.600because in essence, they are government employees, right? So I get that. I get the
00:04:11.800management on that side. It's the management on this other side that I'm a little fuzzy on.
00:04:18.280Okay. So you have the actors on one side. Now, what are they asking for? What are their demands,
00:04:24.540right? What is all of this about? Well, I'm going to give you three of the basic demands that I
00:04:29.500think encompass the most important parts of this strike. Number one, cost of living, period.
00:04:37.200Guys, there's nobody on earth that would be sitting there thinking somebody shouldn't get
00:04:42.600a cost of living wage increase. Everything has gone up, right? Everything has gone up.
00:04:50.280So why on earth a union wouldn't be fighting for cost of living wage increases beyond me?
00:04:56.000But that's the minimal thing, right? The two bigger, from what I understand so far, the two bigger driving forces, the bigger demands are these.
00:05:07.060Number one, residuals as they pertain to streaming sites.
00:05:15.220Now again, understand, I don't get all of the intricacies, but for example, Netflix, Hulu, Crave, Prime, Amazon, they don't pay residuals to actors directly.
00:05:31.840Those residuals are still coming from the studio as a part, I'm assuming, of a deal the studio made with the streaming service.
00:05:42.160And the reason why this hasn't been sorted out already is because last time they did their contract, this wasn't a thing.
00:05:50.360How can you negotiate for something that doesn't quite exist yet?
00:05:54.320Nobody really knew what streaming was going to look like.
00:05:56.680Nobody really knew how much it was going to take over everything else.
00:06:41.160And now, knowing what streaming services are like, knowing how many people, myself included, are watching things like Grey's Anatomy and Gilmore Girls and House and Buffy 50,000 times, that money goes nowhere but back to the streaming service.
00:07:02.560It does not go to the actor. The difference there being, if your show was replaying on ABC or NBC or whatever, you would get a residual check pertaining to the exact number of times that that show replayed. And that amount of money was being brought in.
00:07:23.320right so if you're thinking about something like i use netflix but we can talk about any streaming
00:07:29.140service when you think about that there are shows that are bringing people into it that people are
00:07:34.120watching again and again and again but that was bought outright to the to the actual studio with
00:07:40.420no consultation no connection no um no awareness and no input of the actors who actually produced
00:07:52.680and created the show. Because let's be honest, I mean, all those people that are involved,
00:07:59.460we are obviously very much drawn to the actors, right? Now, what we're also ignoring here,
00:08:06.340and I don't know as much about this, and I promised you when I go to LA next week,
00:08:10.620these are the questions I'm going to ask. When we talk about a strike this big, it is affecting a
00:08:16.420huge group of people, right? What about the cast? Not just the cast, not just the acting cast. What
00:08:24.160about the props guy? What about set designers? What about costume design? How do all of these
00:08:32.400other people play in and how are they being treated by the broader set of working conditions
00:08:38.880on a set. There's a lot of rules, let's be honest, that movies and TV break. The workday, for one,
00:08:48.400the workday for these individuals is completely different. Now, is it for shorter periods of
00:08:56.120time? Sure. But they could have 12, 13, 15-hour workdays. The rules are different. The per-hour
00:09:05.240thing is different, right? All of that changes. And so one of their big fights is we need
00:09:12.000language. Of course you do. Of course you do, right? We need language that clearly delineates
00:09:21.700what an actor's rights are within the confines of this new world of streaming,
00:09:28.540within the confines of this new world of online entertainment, that you don't need to access a
00:09:35.880cable channel. You don't need to watch a commercial, which is obviously a big money issue. You don't
00:09:41.240need to access and watch a commercial in order to get to your show. All of that is brand new,
00:09:47.600relatively speaking. I don't think we quite understand. We as the consumer are sitting
00:09:52.320back going, I love it. I can watch whatever I want to watch whenever I want to watch it. First
00:09:55.980of all, I feel overwhelmed by it all the time, but we're not taking into account how incredibly
00:10:02.960damaging and disruptive and transformational that is to workers' rights and their negotiations at
00:10:13.960the table. So that's number two. Number three, oh, you're going to love this one. I know a lot
00:10:20.040of you have already heard about it anyways, but AI. And AI, it's a slippery slope. And this is
00:10:29.900where I think the lion's share of work needs to be done. But I don't really see, I see mountains
00:10:36.800of work ahead of us in order to accurately define, discuss, and understand the reach of AI,
00:10:46.100the implications of AI, and how you still keep people attached to their, you know, their creative
00:10:52.100integrity and their personhood attached. So here was the offer of the studios. And they said this,
00:10:58.340by the way, with pride in their voice, which is asinine. Background actors get paid next to0.98
00:11:05.400nothing, quite literally, not even close to minimum wage. Okay, they get paid nothing.
00:11:12.820They're on set all day. It is necessary grunt labor that get paid horrifically. And they're
00:11:24.120all taking it on the chin because this is their creative business. This is who they are. And
00:11:32.020being on set, you would start to learn what goes on set. You become a more educated actor.
00:11:37.280you understand the way tv works movies work commercials work this is it this is the way
00:11:43.720that this is the work you need to put in and in my opinion that's why they take next to nothing
00:11:49.280and by the way next to nothing guys so here's what the union here's what the studios want to do
00:11:58.700the studios are looking to save money obviously and one of the ways they're looking to save money
00:12:03.820is by, for all intents and purposes, completely and utterly eradicating the financial and physical
00:12:12.380need, the financial cost and physical need of background actors. So their offer was this.
00:12:19.300Background actor is going to come in for one day. We're going to pay you $300
00:12:21.960for that day. We are going to take a 360 scan of you and your facial features and your mannerisms.
00:12:31.220and I, you know, as many points of, you know, context that you can possibly get them in.
00:12:37.800And then, heaven help us, the studio then owns that image, you. The studio owns you
00:12:48.760in perpetuity. That's a very fancy word that means forever. The studio owns you forever. So,
00:13:01.220and and the language isn't clear the language isn't clear if it's just a bank that the studio
00:13:06.660so that one studio so let's say mgm called in a bunch of people they paid them out and then mgm
00:13:12.900if they paid me 300 owns me and my likeness and can use it forever now are there a bunch of levels
00:13:22.500to this of course there are but their goal is that their goal is that now be very um sort of
00:13:32.500clear in understanding this they're going to present that as the thing they want i don't
00:13:39.060think they think they're going to get it but i think the studios just like any other negotiation
00:13:43.540you want to go as far and hard in the paint as you possibly can so when you pull back a little
00:13:48.420bit to your actual point to your actual offer it looks like you've made an accommodation it looks
00:13:54.980like you've made a compromise okay because if MGM took my 360 do they own me for that movie
00:14:04.740do they own own me for any movie that MGM is ever going to use because that's that's kind
00:14:11.700of the argument here that's kind of the argument and i'd go further than that honestly i really
00:14:19.220would because these 10 men are sitting behind you know some sort of pay no attention to the
00:14:26.260man behind the curtain veil i feel as though there'd be some crossover i don't see this0.96
00:14:33.860this group this group is a monopoly it well it's not a monopoly it's a freaking cartel0.95
00:14:39.540Well, isn't it? When different companies that are supposed to be in competition together
00:14:47.600against one another, Universal versus MGM versus Disney, who's going to make the best product,
00:14:53.920yet they all sit down and decide how to create a contract for the most significant or one of the
00:15:04.980most significant, because obviously there's all sorts of crew on a movie and a TV set.
00:15:09.840One of the most significant aspects, because they do it for everybody else,
00:15:13.240and they have commonality about how you get hired in the rules and the payment,
00:15:20.080yada, yada, yada. Because I have this horrible feeling that you have Sony over there,
00:35:01.520Without the union, you have no expansion of workers' rights.0.70
00:35:05.880Without expansion of workers' rights, everybody gets screwed.
00:35:09.660So a lot of people love to sit back, go, unions. No, no, you should be thanking a union. Because if a union didn't do what they did, and sometimes in completely different fields, you would not be getting paid what you're getting paid. You would have no sick time. You would have no days off. You would have no workers' rights whatsoever.
00:35:27.820ever labor law exists because of unions not because somebody got nice at some point
00:35:35.660and don't think that same struggle isn't happening within the acting community do not think it isn't
00:35:42.380a hard difficult painstaking job that people engage in and provide such an amazing thing for
00:35:51.900the rest of the world that is our culture and that's what remains our music our movies our theater
00:36:01.660you want to ignore it you want to go about your day i promise the strike's coming to a town near
00:36:06.300you ups right on the brink what else do you think is going to happen what else how many other rights
00:36:15.900are going to be stripped away in the face of economic crisis, in the face of billionaires
00:36:22.940wanting to make more billions. Never have we seen such an increase of wealth in the hands of so few.
00:36:31.660Why? We're living in a broken capitalist system, and the only group that is going to right that
00:36:38.260system are going to be unions. They're the ones that have to renegotiate labor law. They're the
00:36:45.880ones that in this age of the internet and AI and CGI and all of the different things
00:36:51.160we now face, they are the ones that have to sit at that table and create and fight for
00:36:57.400new laws to protect workers against new social, economic, and technological conditions that
00:37:07.220would otherwise erode away their rights so those few at the top get more.
00:37:15.880understand it's a bigger fight it is a bigger fight but I am going to do my best to understand
00:37:25.140each piece as we go when it pertains to this particular strike I am going to do my best
00:37:32.440to raise awareness to individuals being affected and to personalize it so we can all stop thinking
00:37:40.080It's just Julia Roberts up there, you know, lying beside the pool. And by the way, all of those huge actors have all walked off, have all walked off, have all picked up picket signs. Right? Because those people understand how they got to where they are. Those people understand what the future looks like. And those people understand what the fight has to be.
00:38:05.980so don't discount them either just because they've made a lot of money that doesn't mean
00:38:12.220they're not here for a fight it doesn't mean the fight doesn't need to happen so any questions you
00:38:17.540have any any disagreements you have with me throw them in the comments if you're ever going to
00:38:23.060comment on a video now is the time throw them in the comments i will do tiktok after tiktok after
00:38:29.500podcast after podcast, diving into each specific thing so that we can gain an understanding of
00:38:37.760this. I am not going to let the media that exists or those 10 guys control the narrative
00:38:45.540well in so much as I can help it. So write down your comment, write down your question,
00:38:52.040write down what frustrates you and I'll take it to LA next week and we'll see what kind of
00:38:58.260trouble we can cause. And until then, I'll see you next week. Same bat time, same bat station.