Unlearn16: Class is in Session - The One Where We Fight Adam With Bad Character Development - Buffy Season 4 Part 2

00:00:00.000 class is in session hey welcome to unlearn 16 class is in session we are on buffy season four

00:00:09.200 and we're rounding part two thank god these boys only can handle so much stefan stewart how are you

00:00:16.860 guys doing tonight so far so good i'm great i can't wait to talk about how professor waltz

00:00:25.000 walsh walsh walsh professor walsh the stepsister of professor walsh who's in the show i can't wait

00:00:34.900 um until she gets killed and i think we're on the episode right now oh spoiler alert too much there

00:00:40.280 spoiler yeah exactly guys i wouldn't want you guys to be like spoiled 19 years later listen

00:00:47.300 i'm gonna tell you i'm gonna tell you a horrible story that happened to me in school today and i'll

00:00:52.160 be rectifying it tomorrow. So I teach grade seven and eight. And I have some new grade seven and

00:00:57.600 eights this year. And in the front of my classroom, I have two cabinets and they are full of cereal

00:01:04.200 pop figures. And then the other one is filled with Buffy pop figures. Anyways, one of the students

00:01:10.860 at the end of class puts up a tangent, Joanna, can I ask why do you have the cereal people? And I

00:01:16.480 kind of go off on a tangent. I said, I liked my childhood. It was fantastic. It was blah, blah,

00:01:20.040 and I needed to restrict what kind of pops I was going to buy because otherwise it could go into

00:01:24.580 the abyss and he's like yeah but what about those ones I'm like well those are Buffy if something

00:01:28.640 comes out with Buffy I buy it it doesn't matter it could be a sticker it could be a car they come

00:01:33.680 out with a Buffy car I'm in all in and this kid goes what's Buffy what's Buffy first of all little

00:01:43.100 kid um it's time to go back to school in his face i said get out right now and i said go on disney

00:01:50.780 plus tonight and you're gonna start watching season one whatever other homework you have

00:01:55.900 is a distant second to starting this show i'll write to a note like um you should have walked

00:02:03.720 up to him and been like welcome back to unlearn 16 class in session and then just started linking

00:02:11.300 through like the student portal like what how to watch the ends to the episodes i would have just

00:02:17.460 been like the new kids got a hold of my tiktok now so you heard them kind of talking and somebody

00:02:25.440 said i said something somebody said something about tiktok and they're like well i'm joanna's

00:02:29.540 and then another kid the new kid goes she has a tiktok and then one of my old kid goes oh my god

00:02:36.120 she has 1.5 million

00:02:37.860 and was just 0.99

00:02:39.720 abandoned

00:02:40.440 and then this other kid's got

00:02:43.440 this kid's like you guys are lying

00:02:45.920 stop

00:02:46.260 I mean I personally would have walked up

00:02:52.140 to that kid with scissors and been like death is my gift

00:02:54.260 he's like death is my 0.97

00:02:56.080 gift

00:02:56.560 he's either going to watch all my

00:03:00.140 TikToks tonight or season one of Buffy

00:03:01.960 I'm not too sure which

00:03:03.020 well season one of Buffy would probably have him 0.98

00:03:06.000 out earlier because you have a lot of tiktoks and they're all good but also for someone who doesn't

00:03:12.420 hasn't watched buffy i feel like a lot of your tiktoks are going to be lost on him because you

00:03:16.660 make a lot of really good references so and like they're only funny to people who have culture in

00:03:22.240 class this is watch buffy all the way through thank you so much for coming here today 90 of

00:03:29.620 my TikToks, Anna says, that one's too long. That was too long. Can we cut it? Can we cut

00:03:36.680 it right there? I'm like, hon, what do you mean? It's the end of the story. That was

00:03:40.740 too long. I love how Anna behind you is like, edit? Could it be edit? Why do you want to 0.97

00:03:46.340 edit me? I love the idea of like, I just want you to get rid of the punchline. Yeah. That's

00:03:51.420 it. Could you just get rid of the context? It's too much. How long did this one go? I'm

00:03:56.740 like oh my god she was terrified the minute we got like five and ten minute tiktoks i was gonna

00:04:01.400 roll right into that and i probably would have if the first 10 minute tiktok i put up didn't get like

00:04:06.920 four views i'm like oh maybe it's not the right but also too the other thing that kind of stands

00:04:12.700 in the way of the five minutes 10 minute tiktok is you have to upload them from your phone which

00:04:17.060 means that tiktok recognizes it comes from a different app and they're like no if you're not

00:04:22.180 going to do it in this app and you're not going to do it at all well yeah but it's they're asking

00:04:26.660 us to which i know they ask you for because they want you to try they want you to do it and they

00:04:32.000 want to be like they're like try me you want 10 minutes take all the minutes you need all of those

00:04:38.580 10 minutes we're going to show zero people but you know what you did it good job and you know

00:04:45.640 what the video after no views on that either and the one after that just two just as a lesson 0.91

00:04:53.220 just as a reminder and then anna ends up being like the owner of tiktok and all you hear in the

00:05:00.140 background is edit like toe pick listen all i want to say is i have 270 cutting edge thank you

00:05:09.540 what an amazing that's an amazing reference toe pick i'm gonna get anna to watch that movie i

00:05:14.840 think she'll like it it's my favorite movie seven have you watched the movie topic like a cutting

00:05:18.900 edge so we're gonna watch it and then we're gonna talk i've ever seen it all right no we're gonna

00:05:27.260 watch it together we'll all watch it together all right all right so we're currently on a movie

00:05:31.620 like that and then just do a podcast as we watch because i think that would be hilarious oh my god

00:05:35.920 before here's how he got me saying that i legitimately hated um what did you watch we

00:05:42.880 watched mannequin and i hated it because it's a terrible movie it's done on this movie i don't

00:05:48.020 know it's it's like i'm pretty sure they just pulled in i think they were set in chicago i

00:05:53.820 think it was the chicago the lollipop kids for how many like bright colors also i'm sorry that

00:05:59.980 movie was terrible the only good part about it was uh michelle pfeiffer that was the second one 0.67

00:06:06.040 the only good thing it was kim cattrall because she's literally amazing um everything else was

00:06:13.480 terrible and it felt like it was a really bad after school special dude where they kept looking

00:06:17.960 off camera for the lines okay it was 1987. the writers brought in a sack of cocaine and threw it

00:06:26.760 on the floor not on the table that is solid oak made a pile and said trough time and then they

00:06:31.800 slammed their faces down and wrote the first draft and we got mannequin and mannequin 2 mannequin on 0.81

00:06:36.600 the loose is just as good yeah you know what i do kind of love that kim you know what i find 0.86

00:06:44.040 offensive the fact that you know when you look on amazon at movies and they like pair it with 0.98

00:06:48.520 something else they're like you like this so you might like this this is what amazon put in the

00:06:54.280 same category as mannequin saint elmo's fire listen amazon that movie came out the day i was born

00:07:04.280 st elmo's fire only has everybody who is anybody in it has the best soundtrack ever recorded

00:07:11.480 also we can't watch mannequin 2 it has christie swanson as the mannequin

00:07:15.560 nobody can watch that christy swanson is off my list we've already decided that we're going to 0.87

00:07:20.520 use a friend of ours to make mannequin three mannequin on the loose that's the loose the 0.81

00:07:24.520 mannequin on the move is number two mannequin three on the loose is where she's actually a cursed

00:07:28.440 vampire or a sort of the accused werewolf and then she turns to a mannequin and then they let her go

00:07:33.880 she it's this guy who thinks it's he's going to save her and then it turns out she's just going 0.88

00:07:37.880 to go murder a bunch of people it's a lesbian it's a lesbian horror film i'm very excited

00:07:42.440 i just i want to make this movie i said touch i'm like i wanted to later i just kind of ran 0.68

00:07:48.600 through that very quickly so like st emil's fire i watched when i was a kid and like i love that

00:07:56.040 movie but i love it for the sheer fact that like i was like well as a mid-20 something

00:08:03.960 when you were depressed and you fall behind your credit card payments and you lose your job

00:08:08.440 you just sit in the middle of an open room in a loft that would cost you millions of dollars

00:08:14.760 hoping to freeze to death like and you look like demi more that's what i thought like i was like

00:08:19.640 well suicide looks so glamorous because you just sit waiting for the elements in your loft your 0.95

00:08:25.880 beautiful loft with your giant open windows to freeze you to death like anything else i loved it

00:08:31.160 and i also love how she was like her her friends came and like coaxed her out of her depression

00:08:37.240 by simply being like remember he climbed in there he climbed in and like wrapped her in a blanket

00:08:43.000 you know what i also love everyday conversation you remember how rob low kept saying i think we

00:08:49.160 got to get out of hand or yeah well he kept saying it i i can't i love it but i can't figure out how

00:08:55.320 to use it in everyday vernacular i'm trying to figure it out but i i think we should bring it

00:09:01.560 back i just like i love that it had a lot of the brat pack in it and i also love the fact that it

00:09:06.920 it had all of the brat pack everybody in it it had some of the brat pack it only had

00:09:11.560 amelio asif has ali sheedy and um judd nelson it wasn't all of them

00:09:19.400 no was he a brat pack or was he later brat pack because molly ringwell was really part of the

00:09:23.640 breath i have to look it up oh yeah because like i don't know if the brat pack was always was all of

00:09:28.600 them the brat pack here we go oh you guys are right i think he included rob low in it later on

00:09:34.680 who remembers the

00:09:37.000 was given to the coming of age films in the 80s only specified two films the breakfast club and

00:09:46.880 st elmo's fire and the core members are considered to be emilio estevez anthony michael hall rob

00:09:51.900 lowe andrew mccarthy demi moore judd nelson molly ringwald and ali sheedy well well well you guys

00:10:00.120 you schooled me i did not know that i have been referencing the brown packing correctly my entire

00:10:05.060 life but let's just remind ourselves that mishak taylor played hollywood montrose which was the

00:10:10.200 best character of the 80s period right what are you talking about mannequin oh my god going back

00:10:18.300 to going back to um buffy we are on the episode season four we're in season four episode 13 the

00:10:27.580 i and team because this is where pressure walsh dies and then riley goes off his um meds and then

00:10:34.340 we get into faith yeah so let's just go right into faith go right how do we feel about the fact that

00:10:40.580 i just want to touch on this one thing so i think it's a strong element because it kind of goes

00:10:44.040 throughout the other seasons with riley is that the military has been drugging him to make him

00:10:49.360 more of like a super soldier maggie walsh has been lying to him but like did you guys feel there was

00:10:54.980 enough of a relationship there that like the bond between Riley and Professor Walsh to kind of

00:11:02.780 explain the behavior that he was having and the sense of loss that he lost because it kind of

00:11:07.320 treated it like it was Giles right like it was Buffy losing Giles and I don't feel like they

00:11:11.520 really set that up well no because in the whole show it's like it's a teacher and her TA there

00:11:16.660 was no actual connection with him except for the fact that he was her soldier and she was just the

00:11:22.500 leader of a group it wasn't there was no like real parental connection like you have with giles

00:11:28.580 and buffy or even joyce and buffy there's no connection between those two other than the fact

00:11:32.420 that she also watched him sex with buffy they can't they can't work on depth of a connection

00:11:38.980 in a character like riley because he has no depth that's true but it's very true i don't

00:11:44.660 what you said though sorry the inference is she brainwashed him the inference is she's made him

00:11:50.900 pendant the inference is there's some weird and you know i can't even use the term because the

00:11:56.260 right has totally manipulated it but there's this weird kind of grooming process and manipulation

00:12:02.740 and probably through meds as well getting him to think that she's his everything you know you

00:12:08.420 gotta listen to her she's gonna steer you right she's you know so i think there's more of that

00:12:13.300 than a genuine connection i can see as a like an obedient all-american boy it would make sense just

00:12:19.300 just for his personality but with moments like him or her watching them have sex you know that

00:12:26.260 someone who actually cares about him would not engage in that sort of like activity so i think

00:12:31.900 if anything the only thing that bothered me about this particular episode is that again joss has

00:12:35.700 this way of just taking out characters without any warning and we see it multiple times and it was

00:12:41.200 just all of a sudden she's dead and that's it and she's gone and we just keep going and you might

00:12:46.300 see her as a zombie later but that's as far as it goes and i think that was just odd writing and

00:12:53.200 odd storytelling because now we don't actually understand like he did a really poor job explaining

00:13:00.300 either the experiment of adam or adam themselves because we don't know where adam came from

00:13:05.200 we don't know anything about the character he even says it to buffy it's like not a man among

00:13:08.980 us remembers not a single person knows who adam is no one that's a really poor writing like not

00:13:14.860 single person went searching for them because they just threw him in yeah it doesn't make any sense

00:13:20.620 it was like he was trying to do this thing the evils of the american military and he should have 0.82

00:13:25.260 just gone all in the bad guy should have been walsh the bad guy should have been walsh buffy 0.98

00:13:30.860 at the end should have had to have killed an actual human being that was there to do horrible 0.66

00:13:38.220 things it shouldn't have been adam there shouldn't have been that sublimation of a character where 0.63

00:13:42.300 where she gets to kill the monster that the actual monster made, you know? 0.90

00:13:46.160 No, you got to kill Frankenstein. 1.00

00:13:48.760 He's the problem. 0.99

00:13:49.500 Like, I mean, Dr. Frankenstein, that's the problem.

00:13:53.480 But I guess Joss didn't want to go all in because that should have been the conversation.

00:13:58.380 But what episode do we actually get introduced to Adam?

00:14:01.020 Because I'm so I'm rewatching season four.

00:14:02.720 You get introduced at the end of the ION team.

00:14:07.000 Which is episode 13.

00:14:08.340 Because she says, don't worry, one day he'll understand.

00:14:10.980 and then he stabs her in the back and goes mother yeah which is i think that's um

00:14:17.000 that's the imt it's really late in the game to bring your big bad like we had the master

00:14:22.900 immediately you know we had angel working again we had the mayor normally the big bad there's a

00:14:27.700 build there's a build there's a development of a character yeah every big bad you like seeing

00:14:33.520 their layers you saw no layer it should have just been maggie walsh yeah period because then all

00:14:38.680 there shouldn't have been something else it should have been her because there's a connection

00:14:42.240 yeah that would have been better because like she knows you're right 100 i absolutely agree with you 0.68

00:14:47.880 the ending should have been she has to decide if she has to kill this human because they have a 0.98

00:14:51.000 connection since day one of college it would make more sense for her to beat this person and like 0.87

00:14:55.780 an army of zombie people that she knows and then you know make that choice and they could have

00:15:02.040 really played up because initially buffy in that class was interesting they could have really

00:15:07.560 played up the psychological damage that a professor could have you know put on Buffy

00:15:14.000 that would have been better that would have been way better yeah because she's all of a sudden if 0.97

00:15:19.980 we remember back Alison Hannigan or I'm sorry Willow was really surprised that Buffy was getting 1.00

00:15:24.320 such high grades it would have been interesting if Maggie Walsh knew who Buffy was the whole time 0.97

00:15:29.220 and played her like it would have been so interesting and then she would have to second

00:15:33.340 guess riley and if he's even like it would be that would have been smart really smart but it's

00:15:39.100 that's a that's a 2022 lens you know yeah no for sure for sure so we're uh now we have got faith

00:15:45.420 what's our next episode there stew thank god well next episode almost is the fact that riley has is

00:15:50.620 like he's unstable they can't figure out why and it's because he's no longer taking his medication

00:15:56.380 Which again, again, I will say that this entire, both of what you're saying is so perfect because it makes more sense for her to kind of, for Maggie Walsh, I was going to call her the actress named Lindsey Krauss.

00:16:13.440 For Maggie, also I think Lindsey Krauss is such an amazing actress, like character actress.

00:16:17.100 Yeah, you could give her an excellent job.

00:16:19.320 Underused in this series. 1.00

00:16:21.220 100%.

00:16:21.580 But, like, she was using the alias later on, and she was absolutely great.

00:16:25.060 But, again, she was a little bit more underused.

00:16:27.600 But I feel like there was a real good opportunity, like you guys said, to make her the villain, and it be more of a Frankenstein and his monster, rather than the monster.

00:16:37.960 Because I also think it would have been interesting if you actually had Buffy not kill her.

00:16:43.380 But for, like, in Frankenstein, like, Maggie Walsh dies, regretting building the monster at all.

00:16:51.580 yeah realizing that she looking at the chaos yeah exactly the chaos that she controls because it's

00:16:57.100 a testament to the fact that all intentions start out good until you involve power and then power

00:17:05.340 poisons the well so i really honestly think but also like there wasn't enough of character

00:17:11.740 development with maggie walsh to give me any way to care that she died but then also to have that

00:17:19.260 that kind of shock value at the end and the last one of the last scenes when you see her as a zombie

00:17:23.280 there's really nothing there like that horror on Raleigh's face I was like oh well okay she's a

00:17:28.620 zombie now it's kind of creepy but like there wasn't enough for me to be like oh wow because

00:17:33.080 the rest of the initiative like there wasn't enough of a storyline there or at least a foundation for

00:17:39.380 a story for them to build off of being like everybody was involved in this or at least a

00:17:44.140 small section of people were involved in this and i brought this up last podcast but there wasn't

00:17:49.500 enough of a storyline to carry it forward or enough of even just an explanation to be like

00:17:54.960 what happens when this monster goes out and starts killing people even if they did remain

00:18:01.320 under the thumb of the military how are they going to talk about this if demons are not

00:18:06.760 widely observed in the world yeah so exactly this is like the holes i'm talking about when it comes

00:18:13.640 to uh like i think josh joss whedon is a great um like creator of worlds but i think there has

00:18:24.340 to be someone behind him sort of filling in that gap like let's build the world out it's a great

00:18:31.100 show it has a really a lot of really dynamic characters but i think it falls down and it

00:18:35.800 always kind of feels like he loses interest in the storyline before the storyline is over

00:18:41.200 and you can kind of tell that he just is like or he just doesn't know where to go with it because

00:18:46.740 all of a sudden oh look shady organization just disappears it's like well of course they do what

00:18:50.720 else are you gonna do with them like oh we don't know what to do at the watchers council goodbye

00:18:54.100 like not a lot of not a lot of ways to end things and that's that's just a follow-through problem

00:18:59.880 right i think you know who else does doesn't end things well and i love his books and his movies

00:19:05.060 is stephen king uh i have yet to see or read an ending where i'm like that's that's it that's

00:19:13.220 speaking of speaking of cocaine fueled nightmares oh stephen king in the 80s and 90s wow what was

00:19:19.700 it what was that movie where the cars came to life and emilio estefez was like trying to to

00:19:24.580 take out like a car that looked like the hobgoblin christine oh not christine what was it not christine

00:19:34.180 no it was movies where the cars came alive oh he did oh god i've got i think it's called oh man

00:19:40.660 hold on i've got to find it i'm sorry but he also can say the same thing about drive oh yeah yeah

00:19:45.780 yeah jesus i think you can say the same thing about jj abrams as well because you can see this

00:19:51.060 kind of thread of like he set a show up perfectly in alias and then you could sell after the third

00:19:56.980 season he was like i'm more interested in lost now so i'm just dropping the rest of this and

00:20:02.340 the storyline kind of died but i think that what you said stephan makes a lot more sense in the

00:20:08.100 american military is having a secret organization that is siloed on its own with its own hierarchy

00:20:16.020 would make a lot more sense than involving the military because the military requires

00:20:21.220 checks and balances and even these like black budget organizations still have a hierarchy to 0.95

00:20:27.540 report to and it makes no sense that they tried to tie it all up at the end with that like shady

00:20:34.020 like conference room and they were like salt the earth and i was like okay guys like this is not

00:20:40.160 the solution we thought it was so there is a there is a an old video on youtube but um from cracked

00:20:46.120 um i think it's cracked after hours and essentially it's they've figured out a way to put every single

00:20:52.820 joss whedon entity into its own universe so that characters from serenity and characters from

00:20:59.320 the cabin in the woods all are together like it's the watcher's council it's the government it's the

00:21:04.820 uber ramps it's the it's everything like in serenity those creepy zombies that just kind

00:21:10.000 of survive are just vampires that have just survived and and she is like the actual left

00:21:17.180 last layer it's it's really really well done i'm gonna have to send you that link it's i'm gonna

00:21:21.380 see if i can find that yeah we gotta talk about faith now we're into faith here we go

00:21:29.620 so what goes on i think this is a major issue i have with all the shows like this

00:21:34.980 is that the hospitals never have light where is she doctors why the is she in the basement

00:21:41.300 in the storage room the storage room like legitimately she's in this like basement 1.00

00:21:46.340 room with no lights no nurses no doctors hooked up to a monitor no one is monitoring and like she 0.99

00:21:54.200 walks out and there's fucking boxes and dirty floors and she's like comes up and she's like 0.95

00:21:59.200 walking out looking for her clothes and there's a like a little card and i'm like sir where is 0.97

00:22:06.260 this like when buffy went to the hospital and killed by death it was the same thing there was

00:22:10.580 like one nurse monitoring the entire floor and a shady doctor and like a little is she in that

00:22:16.260 hospital because is that where she is in the basement they were like this girl's never going 0.87

00:22:20.280 to wake up let's move her down um to the storage room we'll store like the old christmas ornaments 0.97

00:22:26.320 with her well no wonder who is monitoring her heart monitor no wonder she was so pissed 1.00

00:22:32.040 and they're like no no oxygen doesn't need it life support doesn't need it let's just 1.00

00:22:39.540 corner with a nice pink blanket on a salmon blanket and leave her there wait what episode 1.00

00:22:45.860 are you talking about we're talking about this year's girl yeah it literally left her in a 0.99

00:22:51.580 basement her eight month coma apparently around like the ion team we did is after this year's

00:22:58.920 girl oh yeah this girl is no no it's before that it's the ion team then goodbye iowa goodbye iowa

00:23:05.740 this year's girl yeah no it goes oh i'm going the wrong way yeah you're right yeah but like she eight

00:23:11.660 month coma apparently around month three they were like she's never going to wake up remove all life

00:23:15.740 support and put her in the basement like yeah besides the extra like toilet paper but listen

00:23:21.740 what this leads to i think is perhaps one of the best episodes even though it's in season four 0.99

00:23:28.620 yeah with the two of those actresses being each other when they do the body switch

00:23:35.740 one of my favorite scenes of all time is watching buffy in the mirror pretend to be buffy yeah

00:23:45.180 i'm like like i love sarah michelle geller but in that moment i'm like i feel like they didn't give

00:23:51.820 her enough places to act in this show because i think she had so much more depth it was fun

00:23:58.620 it was really fun and elisa dushku also did such an excellent job playing absolutely like

00:24:04.620 Like Buffy, it was so well done.

00:24:07.640 Yeah.

00:24:08.240 I always felt like Elijah just, she just has more space.

00:24:13.660 Buffy's much more limited up until this point, especially, right?

00:24:18.300 And you don't see that kind of, that kind of span.

00:24:22.440 And I think that was the, really the first time when I was watching it, I'm like, you

00:24:28.400 know, Sarah Michelle Gellar, she, she's fun and she's all those things, but she can act,

00:24:33.200 like she can really act you know not not just tv whatever and you really saw that kind of

00:24:40.080 that depth right there so that was a really fun episode and same with who are you and faith gets

00:24:48.000 to sleep with riley which i also find funny oh yeah but i'm sorry here's the other thing i want

00:24:53.280 to just focus on that one second like i i really hate the pervasive nature of the fact because a 0.99

00:24:59.120 man used his like his penis in a way that wasn't just like jack hammering her that she wakes up 0.99

00:25:06.080 and she's like oh my god i felt love for the first time yeah what no you didn't you had 1.00

00:25:12.320 sex you woke up next to somebody who was like i love you let's talk doing the absolute bare like 0.87

00:25:20.080 the bars on the floor and then she was like what do you want with her estimate what straight men 0.97

00:25:26.320 are up in this joint doing to all these straight women that that right there is the bar you that's 0.93

00:25:32.800 it that's all the guys need to do if they'd only listen for five seconds you guys think that's not

00:25:37.920 true to life but i think it might be no but like i agree with you i think that it is but like i'm

00:25:43.120 making more of a commentary on the fact that like i agree but like the fact that she gets up and

00:25:48.160 because he's like talk to me talk to me you seem weird and she's literally like clutching herself 0.98

00:25:54.720 being like what do you want with her i was like she what he wants with her is fucking mediocre 1.00

00:26:00.580 sex yeah an orgasm a fart and a rollover and sleep like that's what he wants and he wants to 1.00

00:26:07.320 take his like vitamins and do a couple sit-ups and take her off and party with the boys that's 0.99

00:26:12.560 what he wants give himself a high five he plays poker on sunday he demon hunts on saturday and

00:26:18.920 he also does like uh church on sunday mornings yeah sunday mornings there's church after his 0.88

00:26:23.920 movie but what's really what's really important a mediocre sex aside is we have to remember that 0.89

00:26:29.040 the good sex also happened in these episodes between tara and faith which was tara and willow

00:26:34.160 hello i had to be quiet because who's that oh what a spell yes i had to be quiet because we're

00:26:39.880 not there yet and he just i so kind of just got introduced to her he's like there yeah so we just

00:26:45.540 watched hush and he goes huh she's a lesbian and i'm like maybe he's like no she's not

00:26:51.220 oh this is one of my favorite lines because buffy's way who is it faith sitting no no no

00:26:59.400 she said that later she goes huh she's not driving stick anymore yes it is faith it's exactly that 0.97

00:27:05.300 which is the not driving the stick no not driving stick anymore yeah which is the first time my

00:27:12.300 favorite lines which is the first time that they essentially alluded to willow and tara actually

00:27:16.420 being involved is faith and when faith sees spike in the um in the bar in the bronze where she's

00:27:24.900 like because it's wrong and she says all this like stuff to him that really i think that was the

00:27:29.540 moment where spike was like oh my like with buffy when she says i would ride you i have muscles

00:27:37.260 i could pop you like warm champagne what is this yeah it's like this is on eight o'clock

00:27:45.120 at night like yeah like what is going on which is a perfect throwback i don't because it's wrong 1.00

00:27:51.920 and then walks away in her ill-fitting fucking pleather pants 0.95

00:27:56.080 diaper pants i i just don't understand why the makeup with the uh the costume designer was not 1.00

00:28:03.520 like you know what sarah you've lost a couple of pounds we're gonna have to take those pants

00:28:07.840 instead they were like okay it's fine it's gonna slouch i just love the idea of if you didn't have

00:28:14.040 like the soundtrack going and all the special effects

00:28:15.940 sounds you just hear her the legs just 0.86

00:28:17.960 going when she's walking away 0.93

00:28:20.140 but like but it's also a great callback in season

00:28:25.800 seven when faith and spike are sitting

00:28:27.780 together and she's like

00:28:29.600 we met once

00:28:31.140 downstairs yeah

00:28:33.520 it was so good i love season seven

00:28:35.540 episode

00:28:37.500 17 which i believe

00:28:39.980 is

00:28:41.960 jonathan's skip

00:28:44.260 Skip.

00:28:44.880 Okay, can we talk about this?

00:28:46.220 Oh, Skip.

00:28:46.740 Oh, my God, Skip.

00:28:48.140 I want to talk about one thing,

00:28:49.320 one of the themes that I continue seeing.

00:28:51.820 I know they really tried to make Jonathan happen.

00:28:55.500 Like, they really, really...

00:28:56.700 Oh, my God.

00:28:57.280 Let me tell you.

00:28:57.980 So hard.

00:28:59.240 Fantastic director.

00:29:00.580 Amazing writer.

00:29:01.680 Amazing.

00:29:02.720 Had an award winner.

00:29:03.760 Oscar.

00:29:03.960 I mean, award winner. 0.99

00:29:05.300 But, like, I could not give less of a shit about Jonathan. 0.99

00:29:11.040 I do not care about him. 0.99

00:29:12.380 in life or death that entire episode when he died i was like oh no thank fucking god i don't hear 0.93

00:29:20.280 him whine anymore yeah or his when he's like i dabbled i'm a dabbler like i was like willow 0.91

00:29:27.340 rip out his rib cage rip out his rib cage someone take him out for me and this episode i were

00:29:34.600 watching it and the entire opening credits were changed was the first time i did that in the

00:29:39.060 entire series and i was like oh as my what like how old was i in this 19 2000 my 15 year old self

00:29:47.200 was like what the what the fuck is going on like what has happened here am i supposed to watch 0.97

00:29:56.780 jonathan for 45 fucking minutes in my upstairs attic if you think about it we wait a week for 0.99

00:30:03.760 episodes and we just watched who are you and then sanctuary and five by five yeah so like we we have 0.97

00:30:10.600 this whole faith arc going through buffy and angel and then it's like what happens next and then we

00:30:15.580 get jonathan oh i was like what the oh i was so pissed off i remember being so mad i couldn't i

00:30:24.420 was like i can't even deal with this right now i think i like i and then at the end of it when 0.55

00:30:29.160 he was like sorry guys i'm really sorry i was like die like what was the lesson he was him

00:30:36.920 you know how in like you know how in in supernatural at some point you can just watch

00:30:41.640 the first five minutes of the episode and the last five minutes of the episode and just get

00:30:45.000 everything you need going into the story what was it that he says to buffy at the very end

00:30:49.240 of that episode is it something about riley i just wanted to be a hero no no after that he's like

00:30:54.120 i can't remember this but i remember something and i thought he was there was something about

00:30:57.720 riley oh my god this sage advice he gave her of like just scared was that it oh god i thought

00:31:04.040 it was something about adam never mind it was about riley oh i mean we can talk like

00:31:11.640 buffy was still trying to get over the whole she found out faith in her body slept with him and it

00:31:16.600 was a big deal oh right oh barf okay cool well and then we don't move anywhere better

00:31:23.080 this is a hard season we move to where the wild things are yeah first of all i didn't know you're

00:31:31.240 allowed to just directly steal a title of a children's book but whatever right are you

00:31:36.540 allowed to just do that it's fine i'm just gonna okay but it was awful there was nothing redeeming

00:31:42.440 about the episode whatsoever i hated it and it's probably one of the few episodes when i re-watch

00:31:48.300 i just go no thanks i think it's the only thing i liked about it is it had mrs mccluskey from

00:31:53.460 desperate housewives and that was it like she's like i like you could have gone real deep and it

00:32:01.320 could have been real creepy it is again no the biggest continuity error was that a giant vine

00:32:08.180 goes through anya's hand and then just nothing like goes through it she rips it out she's like

00:32:12.940 damn it and walks away and then it just never mentioned again i'm like you have no feeling in

00:32:17.180 that hand that hand doesn't exist anymore but like can we just talk can we just talk about 1.00

00:32:21.900 the amount of bruising both of them would have after having sex for fucking 48 straight hours 0.99

00:32:28.740 like well she's how did she how did she walk but also how did she walk she is the slayer yeah he's 0.99

00:32:37.920 not like well listen also like maybe there's so many there's so many different issues in this

00:32:46.320 episode i love it for the sheer fact that it's kind of like very outside the box as more of a

00:32:50.940 commentary on more social issues when it comes to like religious persecution and um uh sort of the

00:33:00.620 the dark side of putting people in religiously run organizations without any kind of oversight

00:33:06.500 um but but again it didn't go deep enough it didn't go deep enough it could have done a lot

00:33:11.680 better josh here's here's the thing he wanted i think maybe wanted to make all these big points

00:33:19.300 but he was only willing to go so far in and i don't know if that was a sign of the time

00:33:24.460 or a sign of his limitation or what he thought he should be limited by because really you there

00:33:31.580 should have been like the catholic diocese at the end of that freaking episode like you should have

00:33:37.740 gone all in you're going to condemn the church condemn the church you're going to condemn the

00:33:41.480 military? Condemn the whole thing. Talk about its oppressive, horrific structure that needs to be

00:33:47.480 brought down because it's rotten. Go all in. But he just kind of goes, we're just going to touch

00:33:52.780 on it. We're going to poke it a little bit. We're going to infer some things and then we're going

00:33:57.120 to move on. Yeah. Well, and again, you're right. And just for something you said, the title is

00:34:04.400 based on the book, Where the Wild Things Are. And I'm reading right here, the story is about a boy

00:34:08.500 who's sent to his room without supper for wreaking havoc

00:34:10.540 in his home. So he imagines that his bedroom

00:34:12.580 turns into a jungle inhabited

00:34:14.480 by monsters. The fuck does that have to do 1.00

00:34:16.500 with this scene and the sex 1.00

00:34:18.660 and the nonsense? It doesn't make

00:34:20.540 any sense. It's like three different stories.

00:34:23.100 It genuinely feels like

00:34:24.060 this is obviously when Buffy was

00:34:26.660 or Sarah Michelle Gellar was out filming

00:34:28.360 Sanctuary with Faith in Angel.

00:34:30.660 So it's like they almost had to put three

00:34:32.340 different

00:34:33.000 themes together.

00:34:35.560 like a haunted house is one but then ghost children is another and then the the sex aspect

00:34:41.300 is another and then it just didn't mesh nothing made sense like when they walk into that jungle 0.98

00:34:46.220 it's like okay is this because they're fucking like what's going on like it doesn't make any

00:34:50.780 sense nothing makes sense but also like i agree with joe and and you is that the the idea that 0.93

00:34:58.720 katherine juistam is in it and she's like this this old kind of like very religious very old

00:35:03.700 school very abusive nun like they don't really go into that and like how does anything other than 0.99

00:35:09.600 like the hair cutting the like um like the the kind of mastermind of this and like the the ill

00:35:18.400 of the bad feelings i don't really understand how anything aligns with that like outside of it like

00:35:26.420 the the four like the weird jungle they went to walk through and like the door being locked all

00:35:31.500 these things i think they could have done a better job and i i did like the fact there was a lot of

00:35:36.380 shame associated with everything that they every of the party goers did because i think that the

00:35:40.620 shame is a very strong tool of um uh religious punishment um it was kind of but i do feel like

00:35:52.260 they could have done a little better i i also felt like the orgasm wall was just very out of place

00:35:57.100 it made no sense it was but it was it was such a weird thing because i understand what they're

00:36:03.900 doing but like also they didn't explain it so like you had a bunch of people just like lining

00:36:09.740 up to orgasm in front of each other which i would have been like i'm gonna go home it turns out that 0.69

00:36:14.060 the nun weird it turns out the nun bricked up two kids who were found making out in that corner 0.68

00:36:19.420 and then you realize that the skeletons behind the wall something like you know what i mean like

00:36:23.580 something had to exist it was like it was just this really like crappy version of fear itself

00:36:28.940 because it was like let's take some of let's take some of like the the stuff that we couldn't use

00:36:33.260 in that episode and just fill it in this one nothing made sense no right well we can move

00:36:38.860 over to the yoko factor because that makes me like i hate this episode wait there's one more

00:36:45.900 there's one more we forgot new moon rising which we have to talk about because that's the official

00:36:52.460 like declaration of willow comes back and he the best part of that is when he's like

00:36:58.740 are you are you with her are you involved are you involved when he smells willow and he's like

00:37:07.420 oh i mean i was like oh god and he's angry about it and and then in that moment he recognizes that

00:37:16.500 you know he smells willow all over her and then he starts to turn yeah yes it's perfect i really

00:37:23.440 really i loved i think that this is the one episode you really got the sense of loss that

00:37:30.160 oz feels like he left to better himself for willow to keep control to right the wrongs that he did

00:37:36.740 with um veruca and for him to come back and she has moved on but she's moved on in such a cataclysmic

00:37:44.020 way that even though she loves him and he loves her you can't get back to that same love like

00:37:52.080 willow and she said i feel like i will always love you i will always be a part of you and

00:37:56.560 there our story isn't finished yet but like it's such a tragic thing for him to come back after

00:38:02.900 doing this work after being on on tibet after doing this work and and coming back to to kind

00:38:09.560 to present himself anew and that anger and that kind of rage he feels like you said is always

00:38:17.200 inside of him you get that you finally get that when he looks up and tells amber benson to run

00:38:23.020 later to run um i will say and i i think this is important i i love the fact that they wrote in

00:38:32.480 that willow is the thing that causes the the monster to come out yeah and that the thing that

00:38:38.200 he loves so much is also his biggest trigger um that sense of loss but like i just well i think

00:38:44.600 i think that seth korean this episode like really knocked out of the park so good the dynamics

00:38:49.720 between him and amber benson and him and um allison hannigan were great i think the rest of the

00:38:55.480 people i really hated the coming out scene that was like it was it was not bad it was just very

00:39:02.120 of its time and it brought back a lot of really like icky feelings re-watching it where i was like

00:39:08.600 oh i've 100 disagree i have to 100 disagree i'm so sorry wait when you're talking about the end

00:39:14.040 with willow and tara no no i'm talking with buffy i didn't say it was bad i said for me it brought

00:39:21.400 up icky feelings of like that awkward like having that conversation and then

00:39:29.080 And Buffy like did it in a very nice way where she was like, I still love you.

00:39:34.480 Like I'm here for you.

00:39:35.460 I'm not weird.

00:39:36.580 But also like that beginning of the, at like the beginning of the conversation, I think

00:39:40.820 all of us have had at some point in our lives and it goes a very different direction sometimes

00:39:45.220 where you just stop being in front of the person or they say something like, I'm never

00:39:50.840 going to be interested in you.

00:39:52.120 And I'm like, what?

00:39:53.060 well no but like it's it was so so important because this was a monumental moment because 0.77

00:39:59.560 the only other queer person you had on the wb was the character from dawson's creek

00:40:03.880 and this was because willow was such a beloved character for her to come out and it be a positive

00:40:11.940 with buffy and seeing buffy be like okay i'm it's a little weird but it's not weird because it's

00:40:18.420 willow and i love you and of course nothing's different i think that was really important for

00:40:22.220 that for that time and you're 100 it was of the times but i also wonder because we've we've reviewed

00:40:30.380 many melt movies in the 90s where bisexuality is just not a thing it's it's not real as they say 0.97

00:40:37.500 in camp or some other nonsense that that's just or shit but like what oh by your shirt but i wonder 0.98

00:40:45.260 if if this was filmed today do you think willow would have been a lesbian or could she have just 0.99

00:40:52.060 been bisexual like either way it doesn't matter but like i wonder just at the times i agree with

00:40:58.840 you i think that if we were to have a 2022 retelling of the show i think willow would

00:41:03.960 probably be bisexual or pansexual but i think that at the time this was filmed no one would

00:41:09.900 have understood what that meant and there would be a lot more explanation to it so i think that

00:41:14.200 the the i'm not saying it's bad i i think that people can infer what it is from the other like

00:41:19.320 They watch it from today's perspective and kind of take what they know of today and watch it again. 0.97

00:41:24.280 I think Willow would be bi, but I think it would be convenient for her to call herself a lesbian when she's with Tara.

00:41:29.480 I think for the vernacular they had at the time and the understanding of sexuality for these writers, I think it made the most sense. 0.51

00:41:37.080 I do, however, think that at the time when they're including these gay characters, it was very like a binary. 0.51

00:41:43.640 It was black or white. You are either straight or gay.

00:41:45.440 and i think you needed to have that to have that sort of like media circus around it because if 0.61

00:41:50.120 and i'm not saying this i don't want i don't want to come across like i'm saying that if she came

00:41:54.200 out as bisexual it would be less than but i think at the time of 2000 i don't think that same

00:41:59.660 understanding or the same sort of like fanfare because someone would have been like well she's

00:42:03.660 not really she's like terrible and like go back to oz would have been very dismissive yeah and

00:42:09.240 we're two cis white gay men like we we don't want to take away a lesbian character obviously because

00:42:14.000 she is a monumental character of the 90s i just think and i just think that i think people just

00:42:20.400 weren't ready to see a bisexual character as much as they weren't ready to see a lesbian character

00:42:24.600 but they just like you said black and white i don't know their sex was actual magic

00:42:31.080 i don't know i don't know if you go back she could love us like a little brother

00:42:39.200 when you get levitated off the bed

00:42:42.280 I think 1.00

00:42:43.600 that's your new sexuality

00:42:46.140 yeah I think that's my sexuality 0.92

00:42:48.100 is levitation under my willow tree

00:42:49.740 I think

00:42:50.700 but also like

00:42:53.500 I also think too I just want to like talk

00:42:56.220 about the first thing about the bisexual 0.99

00:42:57.860 oh my god 1.00

00:43:00.700 I don't like the willow tree

00:43:01.680 I just

00:43:02.340 but i do think that you have like seasons like in 1990 like this is 2098 you had sex in the city

00:43:15.840 introduce the bisexual character for carrie broadshot to date and she couldn't get over

00:43:19.720 the fact that he was dating men like it was the most biphobic um thing in the world in the world

00:43:25.140 and there was a really like there was a strong push to include bisexual characters on tv but 0.70

00:43:32.160 they weren't women and if they were women it was because they hated men and they had women because

00:43:38.200 they were like oh they're better they understand me but it was never a conversation about sex it

00:43:43.320 was a conversation about companionship and understanding and that's how it was framed 0.67

00:43:47.200 and then for men it was literally just and i i think we've all heard this the stop before gay

00:43:53.580 town and you see samantha say this in the episode so i think that again like back to my original

00:44:01.100 point the the atmosphere in which um we all lived at this point and the environment in which we

00:44:10.000 lived it wouldn't have made it would have been contested or debated over the fact that she was

00:44:17.280 literally just heartbroken that Oz left and therefore she decided to like seek understanding

00:44:22.380 and companionship with a similar character that she kissed sometimes like straight girls apparently

00:44:28.120 quote-unquote bit at bars so i think that would be a lot more damaging what's that terrible 1.00

00:44:32.880 what's that terrible phrase like lesbians until graduation oh yeah what is that phrase 0.59

00:44:39.360 is it lugs or gugs or i don't know but it's that it's awful yeah i think that i think that 0.85

00:44:45.500 considering the i think we have a lot more diverse writers and experiences in the room these days to

00:44:51.580 have these more kind of like fleshed out characters and this does not take away from the impact of the

00:44:56.900 show it or the impact of the writing then i just think they had a lot of an i did a narrower field

00:45:02.120 to write within 100 percent of its ability what i so so i think that that episode when and you

00:45:09.060 don't like the yoko factor here's why i like the yoko factor because first of all all of those

00:45:15.420 issues that willow's feeling about still insecurity about people saying they're fine with it but

00:45:21.500 they're not really fine with it that they're talking behind her back i think that's a very

00:45:25.100 very real thing oh yeah the reason i like it is because i like spike in it i think spike has

00:45:31.060 always been the best bad when he's manipulative when he's just getting in your head when he's

00:45:37.220 not fighting out full he's always been better at chirping you a little bit throwing you off

00:45:43.720 and then going in for the kill that's how when we go back and watch him kill slayers it's because

00:45:48.740 he has a mouth on him it's not because he's the best fighter in the world it's because he knows

00:45:52.720 what to say to get at you and i think that's what i like about the yoko factor i like his role

00:45:58.360 because i think that's what he's that is how he's evil well this is his best episode 100 but like

00:46:05.600 i'm sorry guys scooby gang it's been three years with this guy really now you're gonna be like huh

00:46:10.740 i just like i i i agree with you stephan like i understand what you're saying joe and i can i

00:46:17.300 agree with you as well i understand like why they did it i just felt like everybody fell too easy

00:46:24.140 i think too easy but i still say we go back to the insecurity of that time in our lives i think

00:46:32.020 that's the time that anybody can pull the smallest thread we've just stepped into some brand new

00:46:38.320 space we they've had nothing but you know ups and downs and insecure like all over the place

00:46:45.120 and if you just pull at it a little bit in those early 20s it's like a really shitty sweater

00:46:52.020 it'll just all unravel and i think it's anything from prime arts i think it's about the time

00:46:57.060 i think it's about the time in their life not necessarily spike or the scooby bond and how

00:47:06.020 they feel about him i think he couldn't have done it the year after but i think in that time and in

00:47:12.280 that space when everybody was babbling so much i think i think it made sense but don't worry

00:47:17.900 i get it we go into the worst episode ever but i feel like also with the echo factor too like i

00:47:24.420 think that even like i agree i think it would make more sense with the trio buffy angel buffy

00:47:30.020 uh willow and xander that makes sense to me because i agree with you it's like you they all

00:47:35.900 are like weighed under insecurity it's giles like you're a fully grown man yeah giles is like his

00:47:44.700 whole career has been pulled out from under him he used to have he did he used to have all this

00:47:50.060 significance in the school and then and i think that's also a sign now they play him out to be a

00:47:54.700 lot older i find it offensive at this point because i think we might be the same age but they play him

00:47:58.620 out to be like putting out the pasture for christ's sake he might be 40 if that um but i think that

00:48:05.340 would come that would weigh when you used to matter when people used to listen to you and now

00:48:11.500 your kids because i think it's very parental when your kids don't pick up the phone and call they

00:48:16.600 handle it on their own they call their boyfriend they call i think that that does weigh so again

00:48:22.260 i think it's about you know everybody's time in that particular life um you know and i also yeah

00:48:30.540 What does Giles do for work in season four?

00:48:33.380 How is he paying for his apartment?

00:48:34.720 We don't know how he gets money. 1.00

00:48:35.800 I'm thinking Wiccan.

00:48:38.060 I think he just manufactures it.

00:48:40.420 Like, I always assumed that he, like, was a performer and just sang at bars for tips.

00:48:46.880 You thought the bar thing was a big deal?

00:48:49.000 Because he opened the magic box in season five, which I loved.

00:48:52.280 But I also love the fact, and I think this is something that I,

00:48:55.220 is a thread that I pull through all shows.

00:48:57.420 i really love when they redo sets and you can still see the bones of the original set it was

00:49:03.500 supposed to be so like a university was the old high school you had the magic box it used to be

00:49:10.420 um what was the magic before this it was it was something else before um and then you have like

00:49:20.940 yeah it just it makes me kind of like i always like look for it um prime like i find okay i also

00:49:28.540 agree with you um the scoobies reveal adam's plan for primeval um okay okay what okay this is one of

00:49:41.200 the most underwhelming season finales well it's not even the finale it's not even the season finale

00:49:46.960 so okay don't even i'm not even talking about restless okay what cheese you know what we should

00:49:53.760 have all ended this episode by going to get a piece of cheese slapping it on our forehead and

00:49:58.660 we just we should have done the whole episode like that i am the cheese you are the cheese

00:50:03.020 i hated it i okay i will say this i i love the soundtrack i love the restless soundtrack

00:50:10.580 beautiful one of my favorite um uh pieces is willow's dream or the slayer fight but also

00:50:18.040 just weird i love i love the aspect of the dream sequences with like tara translating for the first

00:50:24.320 slayer and like it was interesting but it was just so it makes no sense and i'll say this

00:50:31.840 it's not supposed to i would have preferred if tara was actually like descended from the like

00:50:40.160 the like the three men who created this layer because it would have made more sense if they

00:50:44.380 carried her through it'd be like an ancient bloodline which is why she had her her family 0.57

00:50:49.040 had innate power passed out from the women yeah because remember like in the next season she comes

00:50:55.460 one of my favorite episodes in season five is family i think it's so powerful so great

00:51:00.420 and you get um actually fun fact um i'll tell it when we actually go back we do an episode i'll

00:51:06.580 i'll hold my fun fact till then but this eve this episode like um primeval or restless is just like

00:51:14.580 it's boring it's stupid everything happens in the last 15 minutes and still it makes no 0.93

00:51:19.380 fucking sense no how that what what's with the gun and with the the spell and with you know what 0.99

00:51:26.500 i think joss maybe just watched the matrix and oh my god easily he's just like oh that's a cool 0.94

00:51:33.700 effect i'm gonna put it in my my tv show because the whole this means nothing kind of this is i'm

00:51:41.060 like i mean i liked his response there's a couple funny moments where he's like huh interesting like

00:51:48.740 i liked adam's response yeah because he was like you know but outside of that what a freaking let

00:51:55.860 down but again it's a letdown because we don't care about this bad no not at all there's no story

00:52:02.460 every bad guy you're a little sorry to see them go let's be honest little story to see

00:52:08.260 the master not around little story obviously you know drusilla and spike and angel little

00:52:15.120 little sorry not to see these guys go i love glory listen if i could have kept glory around

00:52:21.540 the entire time oh no oh god we'll talk about it next episode we're gonna get to her

00:52:29.380 but just but like there was just what okay i'm i'm maybe it's just me being so senea is the

00:52:35.620 first slayer what is the what is the language that buffy is samarian when she is it samarian

00:52:41.380 yeah it was just it was just so there were elements okay i gotta give it up there were

00:52:47.380 very interesting elements to this that at least led into restless you know i'm gonna be upset by

00:52:52.020 was she really speaking sumerian i'd like to know i doubt it i really doubt it before we move on to

00:52:59.140 restless i do want to say something the reason why it was underwhelming the stakes were not high

00:53:04.020 enough not at all because you knew that even if they failed the military was still they would

00:53:12.260 still salt the earth and kill adam they were never going to allow him to escape so yeah buffy fails

00:53:18.660 and murder and dies in season four is the last season of buffy you know that the military this 0.81

00:53:24.640 entire organization this black budget it all black is going to kill it all they're going to pull him 0.94

00:53:31.840 up nothing mattered you're right there was no stakes there was no and and the and again with 0.93

00:53:36.600 the big bad there it should have taken her about 37 seconds to do anything with him she didn't need

00:53:43.480 any magical and viewing with Cassandra's heart that's why he literally isn't the last episode

00:53:50.640 he isn't the big bad Cassandra's the heart oh whatever it can't be the key I'm not gonna get

00:53:57.000 it's like it's like in the um like the planeteers the captain plan the planeteers

00:54:01.700 Bin, fodder, earth, heart

00:54:04.980 I'm like

00:54:06.780 He talks to animals

00:54:08.840 Yeah

00:54:10.000 Huzzah

00:54:11.240 You have people creating hurricanes

00:54:13.580 And he's like heart

00:54:15.460 If he was like telepathy

00:54:17.000 I'd be like alright

00:54:17.600 And the only thing to be said about Restless is

00:54:20.760 You're not wearing the cheese

00:54:22.660 The cheese is wearing you

00:54:23.860 That's it

00:54:24.360 I have to say though

00:54:27.780 There are some excellent lines

00:54:29.580 That I really enjoyed in Restless

00:54:31.400 any time any of the little riddles that tara was saying for the first i loved i loved the scene

00:54:36.880 with them fighting i love yeah but like but the whole and i remember very specifically for years

00:54:42.880 after i think it wasn't until i was watching season seven i re-watched season four i hated

00:54:46.920 this episode it was dumb it made no sense it wasn't until much later after the fact right i'm

00:54:53.480 like oh okay this is actually kind of interesting but like yeah just no it was it's a fail it this 0.55

00:55:00.980 whole season was an absolute fail and it just it's just a quick just done and what are we gonna do

00:55:07.440 we're gonna completely forgot season four because something big's gonna happen in season five

00:55:10.840 it's gonna be crazy don't worry we're bringing our a game if you feel as though our listeners here if

00:55:19.120 you feel as though the last two episodes we may have been a little on the negative side um don't

00:55:27.160 we're gonna we're gonna bring it up we're bringing it up for season five six and seven i pro i i

00:55:32.660 promise you and at the end of all of this you will be met with a a buffy uh royal rumble

00:55:41.560 thunderdome what do we want to call it slayer fest slayer fest 2022 there will be shirts there

00:55:49.860 will be um uh challenges there will be things you have to eat um stew's thing will be will be bread 0.90

00:55:58.340 we're just gonna kill stewart that's it wait so i'm gonna die great death was your gift stewart

00:56:09.720 well after we talk about glory death will be my gift to myself i love glory and on that 0.97

00:56:17.360 Boys, where can we find you before we log off for today? Stu?

00:56:22.340 You can find me at Janikin underscore J-N-I-K-O-N underscore on TikTok.

00:56:29.140 Definitely come laugh with me and Instagram, the same title and watch my life through pictures.

00:56:34.960 And Stuart, where can we find you? I mean, sorry, Stefan, where can we find you?

00:56:39.480 Well, you can also find Stuart with me on Rebel Without a Closet.

00:56:43.200 it's our podcast r-w-a-c-p-o-d you can find that on instagram you can find that on patreon you can

00:56:48.840 find on facebook and you can find me sj maroney on instagram amazing guys thank you so much for

00:56:55.080 hanging out with us yet again we will see you next week for season five same bat time same bat station

00:57:02.400 dismissed

Unlearn16: Class is in Session - September 13, 2022

The One Where We Fight Adam With Bad Character Development - Buffy Season 4 Part 2

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