Vulgar History - June 29, 2026


Introducing NeferTV: Spartacus Blood and Sand - season 1 episode 1 - The Red Serpent

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00:00:00.000 Welcome to NeferTV, a podcast about TV shows set in the past. This season, we're recapping
00:00:11.900 every episode of Spartacus Blood and Sand, which originally aired on Starz in 2010.
00:00:17.320 My name is Anne Foster, and this is my first time watching this show,
00:00:20.220 and I don't know very much about Roman history, but I'm with somebody who does.
00:00:24.620 Hello, I'm Gina Berry, and I have watched this show probably more times than I should admit to.
00:00:29.400 And I know quite a bit about Roman history.
00:00:33.020 So this is the vibe we're bringing into this show.
00:00:35.060 I'm just like brand new, baby's first watch.
00:00:38.400 And you've watched the show, like this episode numerous times.
00:00:42.220 So Gina, you're coming in with like, you know,
00:00:45.000 and when we're going to go through the episode,
00:00:46.540 you can explain, oh, this becomes important later.
00:00:48.300 Oh, this is who this character is.
00:00:49.820 So I think it'll be a good back and forth.
00:00:52.540 You're doing a heavy lifting.
00:00:54.500 I'm here to fill in the gaps.
00:00:56.840 So for people who aren't familiar with who either of us are, can you explain your lifelong interest in ancient Roman history, like how you got interested in it?
00:01:07.220 I think I started studying Roman history in my early 20s. That was a long time ago. I'm not going to give the exact age that I am now. But I think I started studying Roman history because there was so much information available to me.
00:01:21.660 In other civilizations, they wrote in texts that really couldn't be deciphered.
00:01:27.600 You know, in ancient Egypt, they just had pictures.
00:01:30.380 Well, how do you determine what that means?
00:01:32.500 With Romans, they wrote in Latin.
00:01:35.060 We know how to translate Latin.
00:01:38.180 And my God, they kept such detailed records of everything that happened, whether it was
00:01:44.800 true or not, that can be a whole other discussion.
00:01:47.380 but they had such detailed records written in Latin that people today, people even before us
00:01:54.000 could translate. So we could see really what was happening in ancient Rome. And because there was
00:01:59.640 so much information available to me, I just dug into it because I didn't have to search far to
00:02:04.340 find the information. Some other civilizations could take me so much longer to find information
00:02:09.280 on. This is not the case for them. So I just started getting more interested in it because
00:02:14.480 different shows and different movies that would come out that would take place in ancient Rome.
00:02:18.960 And I would love what they were wearing. I would love, sadly, the violence of what happened. I just
00:02:25.880 got immersed in it because I just really enjoyed seeing what another time period felt like. And
00:02:34.620 if you really stop and think about it, a lot of the different things of our current civilization,
00:02:40.460 you see ancient rome in it some of the the government buildings even some banks they have
00:02:48.240 the pillars in front well that is just straight out of ancient rome you know the senate building
00:02:54.040 other major buildings had the pillars in front we have a senate they had a senate you know it was
00:03:01.380 just so many things about our our current society that that mirror the society of ancient rome and
00:03:07.200 And so I'm a firm believer in understanding where you came from, what happened to the past, to try to learn from the mistakes they made.
00:03:16.380 Unfortunately, human beings don't learn those lessons well.
00:03:20.220 But I just I really just wanted to study it because I just like to see how we got to where we are today.
00:03:26.240 And studying ancient Rome allowed me to do that.
00:03:29.340 So when Spartacus, Blood and Sand came out in 2010, you were hype, I would imagine.
00:03:35.500 Oh, my God.
00:03:35.920 Well, because you're also gladiators are like a thing you're especially interested in, I think.
00:03:41.140 Right.
00:03:41.820 Absolutely. And I think I was interested in them before Spartacus came out.
00:03:45.600 But after Spartacus came out, that just heightened my interest in it.
00:03:48.760 I couldn't tell you how many books I have detailing so many different things about them, even some of the female gladiators, which that's a whole other subject, too.
00:03:57.280 but um when i saw the first uh advertisement for this new show spartacus blood and sand coming out
00:04:05.840 i i will never forget i ran downstairs and i told my brother who also likes to study history
00:04:11.740 i was like dude this show is coming on i've got to see this and i was there because they were
00:04:19.920 releasing it a week after week of an episode they didn't give it to us where we could just binge it
00:04:25.500 I watched it week after week. Then I binged it God only knows how many times after all of the episodes were out. It was just I was captivated by this show to the point to where I was able to recite some of the lines in the show.
00:04:41.740 this show is just it's an amazing depiction of ancient rome and and how the society worked and
00:04:50.840 how gladiators worked and even the way the show is is it's still quite it's not quite as gritty
00:05:00.760 is what it actually would have been like back then and so when you watch it and then you think
00:05:05.960 hmm what was it really like back then it was probably way worse than what we're seeing right
00:05:11.220 now it just if you let your mind go there you just you just start imagining so many things and
00:05:17.400 that's what I love about this show is it just opens your mind to so many different things
00:05:21.640 so I think it would be good to begin our discussion the episode there's several different cities and
00:05:27.500 cultures they come up well actually no I should say we're going to be talking about season one
00:05:32.080 episode one the red serpent directed by Rick Jacobson written by Stephen S. DeKnight who as
00:05:39.120 the show goes on these two guys clearly they were involved in the creation of the show because
00:05:42.260 they're directing and writing a lot of the episodes but can you explain because again
00:05:47.220 again listeners like i'm here for the ride i've only watched episode one i i want to watch them
00:05:52.400 just before we record so it's like fresh in my mind so i don't know what's happening next but
00:05:55.560 there's an awful lot of places and cultures i didn't know about so can you kind of set the
00:06:00.580 scene for who like thrace like what are we talking about here so the main character spartacus is from
00:06:06.580 the, I guess you call it a province, of Thrace. They are considered to be Thracians, the people
00:06:14.360 that live there. Thrace was a region that existed in ancient times that's part of the current day
00:06:21.620 Bulgaria, Greece, and Turkey. It spanned quite a distance. It was basically just kind of a
00:06:28.640 a gathering of of warrior tribes that made up the the people of thrace and they pretty much
00:06:38.040 kind of tried to keep to themselves from everything that i've i've seen um but they
00:06:42.940 were attacked because you know that's what they did back in the day everyone was always attacking
00:06:46.860 everyone they were attacked by by different groups coming from different areas but it was
00:06:53.700 mostly because they were um the really vital um section of of a crossroad between trade of europe
00:07:01.780 and asia and we all know that if you had a larger civilization a larger city you're going to try to
00:07:09.500 take over the smaller one so you could get a hold of whatever it was that they had that you wanted
00:07:15.100 you know and if you had a good trade route that that opened you up to invasion left right and
00:07:21.000 sideways. They were just, they were going to come at you every chance they had. This area of Thrace
00:07:26.160 was originally colonized by Greece, but then they were later conquered by Persians and then the
00:07:32.200 Macedonians under Philip II and Alexander the Great. And then I don't know, I don't know if
00:07:39.040 they just kind of just started releasing their hold on Thrace, but eventually the Romans took
00:07:44.160 them over and created them to be a province of the actual Roman Empire. And so at the beginning
00:07:50.520 of this episode we're gonna go like scene by scene through the episode but just for my sake
00:07:53.860 at the beginning of this episode it seems like they're sort of reluctant allies thrace and rome
00:07:58.320 at least when the episode starts right yeah like let's team up to to fight this common enemy but
00:08:03.680 there's like bad blood between them obviously the two countries we've talked about this and
00:08:09.040 other times that we've had discussions rome really was kind of like the the one group that
00:08:15.940 everybody disliked so if rome is coming to you and saying oh let's team up word has gotten to
00:08:22.940 you at some point where don't trust those people over there because they're gonna stab you in the
00:08:28.780 back so everyone knew how rome was and so obviously they would be smart to be reluctant
00:08:35.100 to want to actually work with rome because they know you know what their mo was yeah they're gonna
00:08:43.220 to come in, they're going to say, oh, we'll help you get rid of this common enemy. But really what
00:08:48.520 it is, is we're going to have you sign up to work with us. Basically, we're going to have you tied
00:08:54.900 to us for the rest of your life because you agreed to work with us this one time. And then we're
00:08:59.880 going to say, we're going to help you, but we're really going to be standing in the background and
00:09:03.580 watch you fight these people. We'll only come in if we really feel like it. And, but we're going
00:09:09.720 to help you get rid of this this common enemy and and life will be so much better for you
00:09:13.880 and then it just doesn't end up being that way because you end up defeating who they came to
00:09:19.940 technically help you defeat and then they're like oh yeah but you already pledged yourself to us so
00:09:24.280 yeah this is how it's going to be now they they they over promise and under deliver pretty much
00:09:31.380 every time they go and offer their quote-unquote assistance to help with something and so obviously 0.92
00:09:37.260 the Thracians are going to kind of be like, yeah, we know how you work because, you know, 0.99
00:09:41.480 really where's the benefit in this for us? And it ends up to where they overpromise, 1.00
00:09:47.860 underdeliver, just like they always do. And that just kind of sets everything else off.
00:09:52.920 So we're definitely going to explain that even more when we get into the recap. But I think the
00:09:57.580 next region you're going to explain is Gaul, which I want to say France, sort of, right?
00:10:03.400 so according to everything that i've studied it is part of because gaul was actually a really
00:10:09.960 large area as well it was part of modern day areas in france belgium luxembourg and parts
00:10:17.820 of switzerland netherlands and germany however most of the time when i'm studying gaul they
00:10:24.940 mostly lean towards the germany part of it so i'm assuming that they probably occupied more of that
00:10:32.780 territory than they did everything else but they did kind of span into other things so it would
00:10:37.740 have been uh more more of a france area more of a german area that they sort of occupied the most
00:10:44.740 parts of they they started out as a collection of celtic tribes and they were sort of known
00:10:55.980 for being really good warriors and you'll see that when we get further into the series you'll see
00:11:04.180 why they were known to be that but the Gauls you know even though they were really good fighters
00:11:12.480 they ended up like everybody else they ended up being sort of outnumbered by Rome. Rome just had
00:11:17.880 the numbers when it came to their military and it a lot of times just didn't matter how good of a
00:11:23.800 fighter you were, if you aren't numbered, you're not going to win. And that's unfortunately what
00:11:28.100 happened to the Gaul people is the France section of it, they were conquered. And then everything
00:11:34.700 else just kind of started turning into part of the Roman empire. And then once the Roman empire
00:11:41.780 started losing their grip on everything, then the Franks took over and most of it just became
00:11:48.960 France as we know it today. And so there's also a city that's mentioned several times in this 0.88
00:11:54.620 episode. I thought it was a made up city, but it was a real place. It's called Capua. And what I
00:12:00.820 first thought was, oh, that's where Romeo and Juliet took place. No, I was misremembering.
00:12:05.660 Romeo and Juliet takes place in Verona. And Juliet's last name is Capulet. And so I'm just
00:12:09.960 completely off base. But Capua was a city. It was an important city in the Roman Empire
00:12:15.660 in modern day Italy, right?
00:12:17.840 It's kind of like Rome was like the city,
00:12:19.580 but there's other major cities
00:12:20.640 and this is one of them, right?
00:12:22.160 Yeah, Rome was the capital of the Roman Empire,
00:12:25.060 but Capua was the second most important city in Italy.
00:12:30.900 They were actually not too far from one another.
00:12:34.500 From what I could gather,
00:12:35.820 they were about roughly 105 miles away from each other.
00:12:39.720 So later on in the series,
00:12:41.660 you'll hear them talking about going between Rome and Capua.
00:12:44.360 And so you think back in ancient times, it's not like they just hopped on a plane and went where they wanted to go.
00:12:49.860 They either were walking, they were horseback or they were in a carriage.
00:12:54.280 And so it's like you're thinking it must have taken them forever to get from Capua to Rome.
00:13:00.600 And back then, it would have taken them quite a bit of time to travel 105 miles.
00:13:05.620 Now, today, I would hop in my car and drive 100 miles and not think anything of it.
00:13:09.940 That wasn't the case back then, but it was still easy enough.
00:13:13.280 they still had a route mapped out well enough to where they could travel between the two cities
00:13:17.800 fairly easily. The only thing you had to worry about was bandits on the road. So obviously anyone
00:13:22.500 traveling between the two cities would have been, they would have had their protection. They would
00:13:26.420 have had either some soldiers with them or just some personal paid protection that they had
00:13:31.160 traveling these roads because everything was dangerous back then. But the thing about Capua
00:13:36.860 that made it so great is it had pretty much everything else that Rome had, you know, like
00:13:43.040 with the amphitheater and all that sort of thing but they had i don't know if you want to say ludi
00:13:48.580 or ludus ludus doesn't sound right but a ludus is a gladiator school where they train gladiators
00:13:55.960 on the the to perfect the arts of whatever version of a gladiator they're going to be there's many
00:14:02.280 different types of of gladiators and we can get into that later um but the school is where they
00:14:06.860 learned how to how to to perfect those skills and um they they had an amphitheater where most of
00:14:15.380 those fights would take place and i in my studies realized they had an amphitheater large enough to
00:14:21.340 hold 60 000 people right so this is when you're talking about like arena concert tours like that's
00:14:27.760 where my mind went to like how many tickets are going to these major shows it's like that size
00:14:32.920 Like when you see a concert of like Beyonce or like BTS or whatever, it's like that amount of people.
00:14:38.700 And so think that if it held that many people that came to watch this spectacle, how many people actually lived in that city or in the closely surrounding cities of Capua?
00:14:49.640 I can't imagine seeing something that size in that day and time.
00:14:53.840 Now we see the big NFL stadiums, whatever.
00:14:56.280 We don't think anything of it.
00:14:57.260 We're used to seeing something like that.
00:14:58.660 But this particular building being that size, that would have just the spectacle of it would have been enough to draw people in to watch the gladiator fights, because you want to be able to go back and say, I was there.
00:15:12.520 The only difference between us and them is we have phones to record it to prove that we were there.
00:15:17.500 They were carving it in stone tablets.
00:15:19.760 I don't know.
00:15:20.700 I wrote it on my papyrus.
00:15:22.240 See, I was there.
00:15:23.300 So yeah, Capua was a bigger city than what people might think, or people that know that the city actually existed. It had everything pretty much that Rome had. It had the baths, it had all that stuff. It was a bustling city. And really what made it stand apart was they had the ludus there, and they had the top of the top when it came to the gladiators. So that was their bragging point right there.
00:15:49.440 and then just on this document where you're like things that you want to explain you have um you've
00:15:55.660 mentioned i should let listeners know i'm terrible with names so all like the names of all the
00:16:01.240 characters in the show i don't know but you have mentioned legatus it's a legatus legatus is this
00:16:07.420 a character on the show who we've seen okay so no legatus is actually a title oh it's a title okay
00:16:13.640 it's the title of a high-ranking military officer in the roman military um and a legatus would be
00:16:19.320 in charge of a legion. And if you don't know how many people are in a legion, there is between
00:16:24.640 4,000 and 6,000 men in a legion. So this one person would be in charge of this legion of men.
00:16:30.620 And that would be your infantry. It would be your other military men that had titles that
00:16:37.820 weren't quite as high as yours. So you would have your generals and your lieutenants, all that stuff.
00:16:42.500 They had specific names for them, but you don't hear those names in the show. So I only brought
00:16:48.240 out Legatist because that is the title of one of the main characters the main character that
00:16:54.100 butts head with the other main character we'll get into all that later but you're definitely
00:16:57.960 going to hear the the word Legatist a lot in this show and I'm just going to officially make this 0.98
00:17:03.120 podcast be in the explicit category because you also hear the word cunt a lot in this show 0.95
00:17:08.580 I don't know if that's because it was shot in New Zealand but like I was like whoa 0.83
00:17:13.720 yes that is a favorite word of theirs it's um it comes out quite a bit
00:17:18.760 yeah and i think that's interesting too the show um it's it's shot in new zealand there's a lot of
00:17:25.160 new zealand and australian actors in it and i appreciate that a lot of them are just using
00:17:28.700 their own accents they're not they didn't make everybody talk with a fake british accent which
00:17:32.220 so often in historical things it's like let's all make everyone sound like bbc like patrick stewart
00:17:39.000 like so anyway so i was like oh and then we'll talk as we go through because i was recognizing
00:17:43.520 people from other projects that i knew and that is another thing that i noticed right away about
00:17:48.560 it too about the the accents they have some very distinct ones between the different characters
00:17:55.400 and you know even the the people that speak with a british accent there's still somewhat of a
00:18:01.360 difference in how some of them pronounce their words um it's always funny to me when you see
00:18:06.160 behind the scenes recordings of these people when they start speaking in their actual accents
00:18:11.620 compared to what they're using on the show and some of them it doesn't change at all um so it's
00:18:17.700 just it's really interesting and and again i appreciate it that they allowed some of these
00:18:22.280 people because they they weren't all from the same region so they wouldn't all sound alike and i
00:18:28.260 really appreciated that like you said they didn't make everyone sound like they were patrick stewart
00:18:32.180 they allowed them to have different accents now whether that's the way they sounded back then or
00:18:36.180 not we'll never know we'll never know they also weren't speaking english so like it's a tv show
00:18:40.500 Oh, and speaking of that, you have to keep in mind they speak in a very odd way, the way they put their words together.
00:18:48.660 Because if you read how Latin is written, it's almost like it's backwards to forwards on how they structure their sentences.
00:18:58.780 And so you might say a sentence that comprised of five words.
00:19:03.500 for them to say the same exact sentence they could end up saying seven eight different words
00:19:08.500 because they just they just spoke in a different way so if you watch the episode you will hear them
00:19:14.120 saying their their sentences in more detailed ways than they probably need to um but that's
00:19:20.580 kind of just how latin was written so obviously the writers of the show kind of took liberties on
00:19:26.220 on how they wanted to have these people speaking but the way they form their sentences is interesting
00:19:31.400 You definitely have to watch the episode to understand what I'm talking about.
00:19:35.460 So if we're going to dive into the episode, it begins with a scene of the character who becomes known as Spartacus.
00:19:41.880 But I want to shout out the actor, Andy Whitfield, who sadly, I think this is widely known, he passed away.
00:19:49.540 Like he only he filmed the first season of this show and then he was in cancer treatment and then he ended up passing away and they recast the role for seasons two and three.
00:19:57.940 but he is so good in this like from moment one i was just like oh look at this guy like first of
00:20:06.400 all he's like extremely good looking and very photogenic like an interesting face interesting
00:20:11.120 features um physique like come on but beautiful deep voice but he's he's such a good presence on
00:20:18.480 this show we were saying before we recorded i just felt like he makes this show work like there's so
00:20:23.240 many good things about it but like if you hadn't had him i don't know if it would have gotten a
00:20:27.300 season two like i think he's so good i agree i think that he was perfectly cast for this i i
00:20:33.840 honestly i i didn't mind the recasting of it but initially for this show i there could not have
00:20:41.660 been anybody else to play this part he's he's so good and we get to see him do a lot of different
00:20:47.480 things like he goes with the gamut his character in this episode he's happy he's sad he's horny
00:20:52.460 he's like you see all these different things he's so good and the episode starts in that classic
00:20:57.560 thing where like at first you see him and it the episode mostly is like well how did he get in this
00:21:02.560 situation sort of flashback and that's really the look he has on his face while he's sitting there
00:21:07.760 alone just kind of looking around like what the hell happened how did like and a lot happens
00:21:17.120 listeners um actually i want to say so like we're going to talk about the episode in detail so if
00:21:21.520 you haven't watched it like you know enjoy i listened to some recap podcasts about things i
00:21:25.460 haven't seen but if you want to watch the show it's available on the stars streaming app um you
00:21:29.740 can also buy it on apple tv so if you want to follow along you can do that but we're going to
00:21:34.360 talk about every single detail of this episode so like spoilers um but so the first scene is like
00:21:40.580 he's in the like underneath like we first see he's sort of underneath the arena and like there's a
00:21:48.480 gladiator fight happening up upstairs and you've got some good details here gina about sort of
00:21:53.700 what this establishes like the the gladiator fight that is happening while he's like chained
00:21:59.360 in the basement right so he's basically chained into the the holding room it's about what where
00:22:06.340 they would have put the person that was up next to fight so they could hear the crowd they could
00:22:12.080 hear the swords clanking they could you know just their anxiety could get ratcheted up god only
00:22:18.920 knows how many notches by hearing everything that's going on i can't imagine how how quickly 0.79
00:22:22.740 their hearts were beating hearing this thinking damn that's going to be me next out there fighting 0.66
00:22:27.340 for my life literally and so he's sitting there just kind of just just remembering what his life 0.93
00:22:35.420 used to be compared to him sitting there now getting ready to fight for his life and so it
00:22:42.100 starts out with with them showing a man out there on the sands fighting a gladiator he's fighting in
00:22:48.060 the style of mermilo and this particular gladiator he would have a legionary shield so it's a longer
00:22:54.460 shield i don't know if you've ever watched anything that takes place in ancient rome when
00:22:57.800 they show the military they've got these shields that they can basically hold up right underneath
00:23:02.320 their eyes that covers the most vital parts of their body so if someone is is coming at them with
00:23:10.020 a sword that shield is going to protect them once you get below that like around your thigh area
00:23:15.460 they catch you in your knee it's over they're going to cripple you you're done so he this
00:23:21.080 particular um fighting style carried a legionary shield and a shorter sword so it would make it
00:23:27.600 easier for them to fight quickly because the the shield would be heavy enough you don't need a
00:23:32.320 heavy sword and shield um and that was called a gladius and you could wield that with with pretty
00:23:38.280 good force and fairly easily can i say something about this too like as a person who doesn't know
00:23:43.400 about this but watching the episode like it was pretty clear like there's a gladiator and he's
00:23:47.160 got the shield the sword a helmet all this stuff and he's fighting a guy who's wearing just kind
00:23:51.100 like like a loincloth like a loincloth so like you can tell like this is it's not gladiator
00:23:58.240 versus gladiator it's like gladiator like the crowd is there to watch this gladiator kill this
00:24:02.760 person yeah basically yeah and he's dressed like the way that we see spartacus so it's like okay
00:24:07.260 spartacus is not at this point the trained gladiator he's just like the human sacrifice he's
00:24:12.200 like yeah and so um i i wanted to to make note that um typically gladiators were slaves um or
00:24:24.980 someone that had been captured in in battle somewhere rome went invaded somewhere to capture
00:24:30.720 all these people and if they appear to be a good enough fighter um uh alanista who is the owner of
00:24:38.480 a ludus would buy them and start training them to be a gladiator. So that's generally how a 0.82
00:24:46.240 gladiator would come to be. But there were also times where free men would go and sign up to be
00:24:53.240 a gladiator, and they would get paid to do this. And that would pay off in some sort of gambling
00:24:59.040 debts or whatever they might have had some sort of debt in. And so they would willingly put
00:25:03.480 themselves out there to fight so their debts could be taken care of. These were free men,
00:25:08.700 but while they were at the Ludus, they were still pretty much treated the way the slaves were.
00:25:13.640 If they were to die in battle, then their family would be given an X amount of money to sort of
00:25:20.300 pay for the fact that he wasn't there to earn money for the family anymore. So those would be
00:25:25.080 the two types of men that would be a gladiator. And then you had the different types of gladiators.
00:25:30.680 So I just wanted to point that out because not everybody in the Ludus is going to be a slave. They could have willingly been there, which would have been a major decision to make, to get rid of your freedom, to get rid of your family, to go and probably die in the arena, like horribly die.
00:25:52.200 that that would be that would be a heavy decision to make but some people made it so but in this
00:25:58.060 scene um you've got this well-trained well-armored gladiator fighting this poor man in a loincloth
00:26:05.340 just swinging like crazy just trying not to die and obviously that's not gonna go so good for
00:26:14.420 this person we don't see exactly how it ends we see him get sliced up here and there but we don't
00:26:19.200 see exactly how it ends because that's when Spartacus really kind of goes back into his
00:26:23.020 mind and starts thinking about where did I come from how am I here exactly the question that
00:26:28.900 existential but also actual question like how did I get here which is where we see so it's a flashback
00:26:35.620 to um this kind of meeting so first of all first of all we see so Spartacus back in time and you
00:26:42.600 can really see that Andy Whitfield is gorgeous um so it's him and the rest of the Thracians and
00:26:48.820 And there's sort of it's like a PowerPoint presentation from this Roman guy who's like, here's why you should team up with us. 0.98
00:26:54.920 That's really how it comes across, too.
00:26:57.060 He tries to give bullet points of why you should be fighting with us, why you need to join the Roman auxiliary, because this is this is what we're offering.
00:27:05.140 And it's it's exactly like the vibes are so much like Andy Whitfield.
00:27:08.660 Gorgeous. He's styled beautifully.
00:27:10.240 He's got this like long hair with kind of like beads in his hair. 0.65
00:27:13.280 But I want to say like not in like a culturally appropriating way, but in like a way that's appropriate for a white person. 0.54
00:27:18.820 He looks amazing. 0.83
00:27:20.800 He's wearing like not even clothes. 0.59
00:27:24.260 Anyway, versus Craig Parker is playing this Roman.
00:27:28.980 And I'm just like, oh, I'm sorry, Lord Narcisse from Rain.
00:27:32.260 What are you doing here?
00:27:33.920 Yes, that is him.
00:27:36.100 Lord Narcisse from Rain.
00:27:37.360 So I was like, oh, he's always a bad guy.
00:27:39.360 So I'm like, he's going to be a bad guy.
00:27:40.800 And he's got this like unfortunate, you know, like Roman haircut.
00:27:43.440 So it's just like Andy Whitfield, gorgeous.
00:27:45.860 and then craig parker who can look gorgeous but they gave him the worst haircut in the world he's
00:27:49.860 got no facial hair and he's just like here's my bullet points you're like okay got it got it
00:27:53.980 shorthand like and we've seen this conversation if i'm understanding this correctly like um
00:28:00.120 what's his name actually on the show craig parker he's legatus glabber glabber god perfect name for
00:28:09.360 this right gross guy it's a glabber um he's like yeah we should do this and then spartacus speaks
00:28:15.240 up and he gives this kind of speech where he's like why like why should i'm like this is where
00:28:18.840 you see that he's going to eventually lead a revolution because this guy's well-spoken and
00:28:22.840 also hot and you can see glabber is like who's this hot guy who knows what he's talking about
00:28:27.300 like you can see these guys he doesn't like him he doesn't like him because he's too competent
00:28:32.100 he's too gorgeous and he definitely has the look on his face like you're making me look bad yeah
00:28:37.860 yeah yeah no spartica speeds up like um excuse me but everything you're saying is wrong and
00:28:43.040 but ultimately they want um like rome wants the thracians help to fight this third other group
00:28:52.400 who are called the getai which you want to give gina's history moment at this point we can so
00:29:01.860 the getai in the show are represented as these mindless savage barbarian hordes of people they 0.98
00:29:09.840 go and just attack whomever they'd like and rape the women kill everybody just take everything 0.98
00:29:17.040 burn the city down and move on to the next one they're basically zombies they're wearing these 1.00
00:29:21.720 like full head skeleton masks like they're not even personified as people it's just like these
00:29:26.160 beasts yeah i mean the faces are painted white just they're just they're really portrayed to
00:29:31.860 just invoke instant fear in anyone that sees them. In all actuality, the Gedi were considered 0.66
00:29:39.960 to be the most noble and upstanding group of Thracians by Herodotus. Now, if you weren't
00:29:48.620 liked, Herodotus was not going to portray you as anything but not liked. But he portrayed these
00:29:54.320 people as the noblest and, and as well as the most just of all Thracian tribes. Now, does that
00:30:02.900 compare to what we see in the show with these people with the face painted and the skull hats
00:30:08.460 and just mindlessly killing? It doesn't. I mean, it says that if they had a guest, they would serve
00:30:15.700 them food on gold and silver plates. Does that sound like a barbarian? I don't even have a gold
00:30:22.520 or a silver plate so i mean so i think would just be like they would just be like grazing off the
00:30:27.940 ground like animals i think they just like catch a bird in their mouth and just be like
00:30:31.820 that's what this show that's the vibe of the show so i'm glad you're here to like justice
00:30:35.580 for the get-eye like they were not like this this is a narrative choice to yeah they were i mean and
00:30:42.280 it's not to say that they didn't fight because everybody back then had to fight at some point
00:30:47.880 because someone was always going to try to invade you whether you had anything or not someone was
00:30:52.540 going to try to conquer you um the sithians at one point conquered them but then someone else 0.78
00:30:58.580 came along helped them fight in the proper way not the roman way to to get rid of the sithians 1.00
00:31:04.440 but then they kind of just all assimilated together and became this one big gedai group of 0.97
00:31:09.920 people not saying they were sitting there singing kumbaya but they were at least able to work with
00:31:14.020 one another they spoke words they weren't just like literal animals yes so um you know obviously
00:31:20.920 they flourished for a while they they you're gonna love this one they minted their own coins
00:31:26.920 yes coin minting and they just they just kind of just as much as they could kept to themselves and
00:31:35.060 had this really good life honestly they just they had a good life not say they didn't have a care in
00:31:41.660 the world, but they had a good life. And then, and this is someone we're going to hear about
00:31:47.580 in the show, a Roman general by the name of Lucullus became the first Roman commander of
00:31:56.080 there. And he was the one that was supposed to go and strike down Mithridates. Now, Mithridates,
00:32:03.400 you'll hear about in this episode, because he plays a big part in decisions that are made later 0.85
00:32:08.720 on by glabber idiot anyways um basically the get i tried to to keep their way of life as much as
00:32:19.820 they could they they later on um formed a force with um a coalition with the scythians um and 0.98
00:32:27.200 and other different areas that were around them to try to fight against the invading romans but
00:32:33.640 eventually you know augustus decided he wanted to own all of that whole area and he sent the force
00:32:41.780 of the roman army to take over and they all of thrace sell to the rule of the roman empire
00:32:50.040 which unfortunately that's how it happened for most people it didn't matter how many people you
00:32:55.020 had rome was always going to outnumber you and they were probably a lot more skilled with fighting
00:32:59.760 because if you think about it,
00:33:01.620 the Roman military, they practiced a lot.
00:33:04.040 They had like a standing army.
00:33:05.480 Other places, like what we see here in this episode,
00:33:07.520 they're just like, oh, let's go for a fight.
00:33:08.740 Like you, Steve, like Tim, like get your guys together
00:33:12.920 and like, let's go do a fight.
00:33:13.980 And in Rome, they're just like, okay,
00:33:15.560 you're a soldier and you're training every day.
00:33:17.500 Like they just had better skills.
00:33:19.360 They did.
00:33:20.300 And you just really didn't stand a chance against Rome.
00:33:23.100 And they knew that.
00:33:24.080 And they used that to their advantage.
00:33:25.720 A lot of times I'm pretty sure that 0.99
00:33:26.980 just hearing the Romans were coming, 0.99
00:33:28.580 people would get scared and just give in they wouldn't even bother to fight because they knew
00:33:33.160 that that would be instant death if you fought at least you stood a chance of surviving if you just 0.99
00:33:37.360 let Rome come in and take over people like the Gedi they they didn't just roll over you know 0.93
00:33:43.540 they they tried to fight and you got to commend them for that but ultimately Rome ended up taking
00:33:49.080 over but the Gedi were not these mindless hordes of barbarians they were very civilized people
00:33:56.180 coins but you have to understand that you have to make things fit for a show or a movie you have 0.55
00:34:05.300 to make it interesting i get that and at least they took um a group of people that actually
00:34:10.760 exist yeah they didn't invent a new thing yeah they just kind of portrayed them in the wrong way
00:34:15.840 but at least they tried to stay historical to using a proper tribe name so kudos for that
00:34:22.720 But yes, that's the background of the Gedi.
00:34:25.380 Oh, thank you. 0.99
00:34:26.560 So the Thracians have decided, 0.97
00:34:29.820 okay, we will team up with Rome 1.00
00:34:31.140 for this fight against the Gedi. 0.94
00:34:33.580 And so the character, again,
00:34:35.660 we don't know what his original name is.
00:34:37.200 We just know he's later named Spartacus by the Romans.
00:34:39.700 But I'm just going to call him Spartacus
00:34:41.040 because I'm sure that's what I said in the script.
00:34:43.360 So Spartacus goes to say goodbye to his very hot wife.
00:34:47.100 And they do a thing where he ties a piece of fabric
00:34:51.380 around her thigh to be like remember me and they have this kind of like sexy scene together
00:34:57.700 and she says I had a dream that you were kneeling before a red serpent and like if you go to war
00:35:04.300 you're destined for great and unfortunate things he's like babe I gotta go I gotta do this I gave
00:35:11.060 my word he says it several times like I gave my word to the Romans like I have to go yeah and
00:35:15.380 And if you think about it, their word was their bond.
00:35:19.020 A lot of civilizations have been like that in history, where if they give their word, they stick to their word.
00:35:25.780 They couldn't break it because to them, that was like an ultimate sin kind of thing.
00:35:30.380 So that is why you hear Spartacus say that a lot is I gave my word.
00:35:35.120 And and unfortunately for a lot of people, giving your word and sticking to that was what got you killed. 1.00
00:35:40.060 so yeah he's just too upstanding and perfect of a person for this corrupt messed up roman 0.66
00:35:47.740 situation but so they go to there's a battle scene and so like the get i come in they're all 0.99
00:35:55.540 they're like basically on all fours they're like we're monster people um the thracians are just 0.97
00:36:00.720 like you know cutting off heads and legs and they're like where the fuck are the romans 1.00
00:36:05.540 the romans come at the last minute to be like oh hey oh you guys handled it okay great thanks bye 0.99
00:36:09.780 like and it's so sad that they did that numerous times you know that that they put whoever was
00:36:20.000 they were quote-unquote fighting with they put them out to take the brunt of the hit of the
00:36:24.880 initial war starting and then they would come up and sort of clean it up and then be like yes we 0.98
00:36:31.160 are victorious no you're a jerk that came later on and tried to claim victory this show is i would 0.92
00:36:39.680 say not a pro Rome show dish the Rome it's a Spartacus is our main character he's Thracian 0.99
00:36:46.160 and all we see the Romans do led by Glabbers what's his name Glabber it's like they obviously 0.98
00:36:51.780 are the worst and we see that they have these like luxury glamping tents where they're staying 0.99
00:36:56.680 versus the Thracians are outside and I want to just mention this it will come up but I don't 1.00
00:37:02.380 want to keep mentioning it the Thracians are wearing like not clothes they're wearing kind
00:37:07.880 a loincloth and sort of like a harness but not a shirt not pants and it's snowing and they're 1.00
00:37:14.560 outside but none of them ever look cold and that's because they're such badasses i have to imagine
00:37:18.920 yes their muscles are glistening and they're just they don't need tents they don't but the romans 0.99
00:37:25.220 are oh they're so cowardly and weak they need you know heating and air conditioning so so glabber 0.89
00:37:31.820 is like hanging out his glamping tent and then i love that you wrote in your notes gina like 0.98
00:37:35.640 unrealistically she comes to visit so it's his wife so it's this blonde woman and she shows up 0.97
00:37:41.420 in just like a fur coat nothing inside which there's a lot of boobs in this show but later 0.96
00:37:48.280 when we later see how far they are like they're in thrace doing this fight they have to go across 1.00
00:37:53.100 the adriatic sea it's like this bitch like she put on her fur coat with nothing inside and then 1.00
00:37:58.260 went on what like a multi-week ship trip just to like come up and like just to like have sex with 1.00
00:38:04.360 her husband and then leave again like this is yeah from rome to capua and she's just like i'm going 0.99
00:38:10.960 to bulgaria like fuck my husband okay like ma'am calm down and just like i said just everything 0.99
00:38:21.860 about that is completely unrealistic because number one a woman back then especially a woman 0.99
00:38:27.280 in high society would not be allowed out of the zilla yeah she just she would not be able to just 0.90
00:38:33.000 be like screw it i'm i'm gonna travel for days to rome she was a area she would not have been 1.00
00:38:39.900 because women for as much maybe freedom as they had they still they they had to report to their 1.00
00:38:47.520 fathers and their husbands you didn't do things without permission but in order to travel that 1.00
00:38:52.960 distance that would have taken a long ass time she would have had to have had plenty of guards
00:38:57.460 with her there's no way she could have snuck out of capua to get to thrace there's none of that is
00:39:03.760 realistic they made it seem like all she did was just a quick horseback ride from capua to where
00:39:09.140 he was camped out in thrace and here i am let me throw up on my fur and you can ravish me that's
00:39:15.180 just nothing about that was realistic but you know what you have to take it with a grain of salt
00:39:20.080 because it's like the get-eye it's like you gotta get this story point across and the story point
00:39:25.040 is that she is the daughter of a senator she is full of bad ideas but and her dad doesn't like 0.97
00:39:31.280 glabber obviously because he sucks but she's like she wants glabber to get her father's favor and 0.97
00:39:36.540 she's like here's what you should do babe like and it's all just bad ideas right constantly with her 0.98
00:39:41.920 i mean and you'll see it episode after episode she's always in his ear chirping telling him what
00:39:47.020 he needs to do in order to gain more favor in order to get the glory that she feels he deserves
00:39:51.620 and that he's arrogant enough to believe he deserves it's just you know white male arrogance
00:39:57.280 i'm sorry he just he he's abundant with it and and he of course is going to listen to the person
00:40:03.280 that's gassing him up telling him oh you can do this that and the other and it's his gorgeous
00:40:07.320 wife yeah he's going to believe he can conquer the world and i mean if he can do that then
00:40:12.480 her father has no choice but to back him and everything he ever wants to do because if you
00:40:16.920 think about it he wouldn't be legatist without the senator the senator would have gotten him 0.81
00:40:21.300 that position but he would have only done it because his daughter played the i'm daddy's
00:40:26.180 little girl card and got it for him and then glabber is not able to really back up being 0.99
00:40:31.920 a legatist because it to be in that position i mean you got to be running shit glabber ain't 0.98
00:40:36.800 running shit so yeah she's caught between the father and the husband the husband is kind of 0.98
00:40:43.060 on the outside because clearly the dad didn't like him from the get-go the dad had good instincts 1.00
00:40:47.460 he sucks so it's just like it's a just a completely dysfunctional bad situation
00:40:54.660 that they just continue to make bad for themselves i want to also mention that she shows up and she 0.99
00:41:01.260 brings some wine from capua and i'm like wow babe like you you put on a fur coat with nothing inside 0.99
00:41:06.700 took a multi-week journey across the adriatic sea just to like have sex with your husband and you 0.97
00:41:13.180 also brought this little like i don't know what do you call it like a little it's a lamb a lamb 0.54
00:41:17.480 skin it's usually a lamb skin leather pouch that they would put the wine in so she's like i brought
00:41:21.580 you the good wine babe like great thanks i just mentioned that because later on somebody steals
00:41:25.820 the wine but you'll hear about so it's it's called cestian wine now i've never really dug too deep
00:41:31.260 into what cestian wine is but i know that that's considered to be the highest level of wine that
00:41:35.580 you could get back then it was not cheap so you had to have money in order to get it and so that's
00:41:41.740 why that's probably why the the Thracian was willing to take it because he knew it was going 0.95
00:41:46.660 to be good wine because if it was in Glaber's tent it wasn't going to be the cheap shit that 0.80
00:41:50.740 they were drinking but also everybody drank wine back then because the water because water is 0.65
00:41:55.600 unsafe yes yeah so everyone drank wine um it's just a matter of the quality of the wine that
00:42:01.640 you're drinking so I do want to clarify so the bad idea that she gives him is she's like you 0.85
00:42:06.980 don't need like you should go after Mithridates and the Greeks and leave the Gedi to the Thracians
00:42:12.120 So he's like, okay, I'm going to like, I teamed up with the Thracians, but now I'm going to like, but she's like, babe, you shouldn't do that. And he's like, okay, so this is why he's like, I'm going to not do what makes sense here, which is why I think it's the next scene. Spartacus comes in and he's like, hey, I'm the hottest and most capable person in the world. And I think this is what we should do. 0.70
00:42:32.040 And then Glaber is like, actually, no, let's not do that. And Spartacus is like, but my idea is the correct one. And I am amazing and brilliant. And Glaber is like, except are you though? No. So this is like ever seeing. I'm like this. I was watching for the first time with my boyfriend and I was like, man, Spartacus, he's got everything. Like he gives good speeches. He's got the military instincts. He knows how to like do everything. Like this guy's got like, and he's gorgeous. Like he's got the strategies.
00:43:00.860 like you can tell like where the story is going spoiler for history is that
00:43:05.920 Spartacus is going to lead a rebellion of enslaved people against Rome.
00:43:09.340 And I'm like,
00:43:09.740 the show is really establishing.
00:43:11.240 He's got the strategies.
00:43:12.640 He's got the charisma.
00:43:13.920 Like,
00:43:14.240 of course he,
00:43:15.440 this is a guy who's going to do it,
00:43:16.940 but I'm the main character of this show.
00:43:19.520 It's called glabber blood and sand.
00:43:21.420 Like calm down.
00:43:23.820 You are Craig Parker,
00:43:25.480 Lord nurse.
00:43:25.840 He's from rain.
00:43:26.440 And like,
00:43:27.040 I can't wait.
00:43:27.800 I don't know what happens in the show,
00:43:28.940 but i assume someone's going to kill him and i'm going to be really happy when that happens
00:43:33.180 and the thing about it is is um you know it's been disputed if a spartacus actually even existed
00:43:39.040 but you would think that he looked like somebody like andy he would have been you know great in
00:43:45.220 stature and and whatnot if you look at and nothing against craig because he's a phenomenal
00:43:50.580 look great but here he does he's a little man like physically he's a little man
00:43:58.280 and he has little man syndrome he really wants to be bigger than what he is in every way and
00:44:05.120 she's just a little man and so it's just like dude understand your place in in the food chain here
00:44:13.140 yeah this is you are not the big dog you have a big dog title but clearly the person that gave
00:44:20.360 me to you doesn't think that you deserve it so slow your roll and and act your height but he
00:44:27.280 just doesn't know how to do that no i was like we're gonna get into this in the second half of 0.98
00:44:31.480 the episode but um when they get back to rome i was happy that people there treated him like shit 0.93
00:44:36.020 because i'm like yeah like he's just acting up because he wants to be the big man because he's 0.62
00:44:40.180 not the big man in rome so here he's like pretending like he is but it's like oh i'm
00:44:43.260 sorry you're facing off against andy whitfield like you're not you're not going to win this
00:44:47.460 battle bro anyway so he's just like so he fucks over the thrations like the romans go one way 0.90
00:44:53.240 the sorations are going the other way and then can you explain there's like this fight 0.99
00:44:57.980 so what it is is um when when glabber basically tells him to fuck off we're going against mr 0.98
00:45:04.040 you guys can do whatever the hell you think you need to but remember you signed to be part of 0.97
00:45:09.100 the auxiliary so be ready to fight where we say you're gonna fight so when spartacus and the man
00:45:15.640 that stole the wine get back to their encampment they're like we can't let them we can't let the 0.64
00:45:22.400 Jedi go because they're marching west which is directly towards our villages our unprotected 0.83
00:45:29.020 villages where our women and children are they're going to kill everyone take everything we have 0.99
00:45:34.020 burn our village down we can't let that happen just because Glaber is a dick and he won't fight 0.99
00:45:39.840 the Jedi like he said he was going to so they all decide that you know what you ain't got to go home 0.98
00:45:46.340 but you got the hell out of here go wherever you want but if you want to go to your village and 0.68
00:45:50.440 protect them, go now. And that's when they all dispersed and went back to their villages. To
00:45:56.900 Glaber, that's considered desertion because they were heading east to fight Mithridates. They were
00:46:02.760 not heading west to fight the Gedi. So that, them leaving to go protect their family and their
00:46:09.420 villages, that is basically a slap in the face to Glaber because Glaber made it quite clear to 0.99
00:46:15.720 before he left his tent we aren't fighting the geti we're fighting mithridates you went against
00:46:21.800 what i said i'm the little man that's gonna stomp my feet and scream because you didn't do what i
00:46:27.200 wanted you to do and because they did that all hell is gonna break loose later on but then also
00:46:33.580 spiracus throws a spear at him oh he throws it at um so that comes messenger yeah yeah he he threw
00:46:41.660 it at i believe it was the tribune of the army because i thought it was glabber and then glabber
00:46:47.540 showed up later and my boyfriend and i were both like wait wasn't he why is he alive okay but he
00:46:51.340 threw it at a different guy so what happened was when spartacus looked glabber dead in the eye and
00:46:55.800 said no and he literally said no they clearly were not gonna follow him he was like how dare you
00:47:04.760 fight and go against what ron tells you to do well because he's all animated and everything
00:47:10.040 us all animated his horse gets spooked and bucks him off glabber's knocked out on the ground in the 1.00
00:47:15.460 mud where he belongs but that just kind of sets everybody off they're like oh fuck the romans 0.99
00:47:21.200 come on let's fight them because they're trying to get us to those places we don't want to go 0.99
00:47:24.720 so all of the thracians start attacking the romans well if you watch spartacus in this scene he's got 1.00
00:47:31.460 this look on his face like what the fuck is happening this is not what i wanted i did not 0.98
00:47:36.900 wants to fight them i gave my word to fight with them against the geti not mithridates they want 0.99
00:47:42.360 to fight mithridates i'm not fighting with them that's all i was trying to say why is everyone 0.88
00:47:47.120 killing each other i mean he was really just he was taken aback by how everything just transpired 0.99
00:47:52.200 just instantly and so they kill all the romans except for glaber which they probably should 0.94
00:47:58.380 have killed him because had they killed him right there on the spot everything would have been 0.97
00:48:02.700 different but the guy asked Spartacus what do you want to do with him he's like leave him in the mud
00:48:07.340 let's go and handle our business big mistake on his his part they they disperse they go back to
00:48:14.800 their their villages what happens when he gets there is interesting because what what it made
00:48:21.240 me think of was the women of Sparta there have been different civilizations throughout history
00:48:26.620 where women were just as much of a warrior as the men were you know it was with um the vikings the 0.76
00:48:33.000 women would be out because you have to be it's like all hands on deck yeah rome wasn't like that 0.92
00:48:38.300 the roman women um if they were high society they were at home being pampered if they were just 1.00
00:48:43.800 a regular pleb they were working to you know just take care of the kids and and keep the house going 0.99
00:48:50.280 everybody else the women were fighting so when Spartacus is heading back to his village to his 0.96
00:48:56.700 wife when he gets there he finds his wife fighting the Gedi who had gotten there before him and I 1.00
00:49:04.720 gotta give her credit she was holding them bitches off like crazy granted they got some licks in but 1.00
00:49:10.540 she was holding them off really good until he got there to help her and then they were fighting as 1.00
00:49:15.200 a team. I mean, it was like an epic scene to watch where they were fighting together to kill
00:49:20.320 the Gedi that were there attacking her. Once they finish, they hear screaming. They run over to the 1.00
00:49:26.980 cliff edge and they see that their village is on fire. So the Gedi that they were fighting was just 1.00
00:49:34.240 a handful of them. The rest of them were sacking the city. So at that point, they're like, okay, 1.00
00:49:39.520 Well, you basically defected from the Roman auxiliary, so you can't go back there.
00:49:46.440 Our village is gone.
00:49:47.640 We can't go back there.
00:49:48.700 What are we going to do now?
00:49:50.440 So they spend the night doing things that husband and wife do.
00:49:54.800 Okay, I'm going to take a pause here because another moment that I think we're going to have every episode is,
00:50:02.380 So we do have a brand partner, which is Common Era Jewelry, which is a woman-owned small business
00:50:08.320 that makes jewelry inspired by the ancient world. And where applicable, I feel like I want to shout
00:50:13.060 out one of their pieces of jewelry that I feel connects to what's happening in the episode.
00:50:17.040 And they have a new piece of jewelry that's called the Lover's Pendant. And I was like,
00:50:22.140 I suspect not having watched future episodes of this show, I don't know if Spartacus and his wife
00:50:28.700 We're going to see each other again.
00:50:30.120 So they spend this like passionate evening with each other.
00:50:33.760 And so I just want to shout out Common Era.
00:50:36.260 And it's a beautiful pendant.
00:50:37.840 I've seen it, y'all.
00:50:39.300 It's a beautiful pendant.
00:50:40.860 I love it.
00:50:41.880 It's beautiful.
00:50:42.560 So this is from their newest collection, Common Era, which is the fragments.
00:50:45.780 And so it's inspired by, you know, like stuff from especially ancient Rome.
00:50:49.540 Like there's not like a whole thing left.
00:50:52.500 There's not a whole mosaic.
00:50:53.240 There's not a whole statue.
00:50:53.960 There's just a fragment of it.
00:50:55.260 And so this is inspired by a fragment of Roman relief.
00:51:01.340 So it's kind of like a lot of it has like crumbled away,
00:51:04.240 but what's left is just these two faces.
00:51:05.840 It looks like a man and a woman,
00:51:07.100 but it could be two other people.
00:51:08.800 These two faces turn towards each other.
00:51:10.460 So the pennant is just the two faces,
00:51:12.060 like in an embrace,
00:51:13.820 the way that she writes about it.
00:51:15.200 The larger scene has been lost to time.
00:51:16.820 The body, setting, and story have fallen away,
00:51:18.860 leaving only the kiss,
00:51:19.940 a small, astonishing fragment of love
00:51:21.920 that survived the ruin around it.
00:51:23.700 And that made me kind of think about...
00:51:25.260 and his wife where it's just like bigger picture catastrophe but like they have this small moment
00:51:31.040 together doing things that adults do a lot on this show and our network right because you know
00:51:37.020 before he even went off to battle she was obviously you know very sullen and so you know
00:51:43.540 she's really sad and she just she tells him she doesn't want him to go but when he says i gave my
00:51:48.180 word i have to go that's when she kind of like gets the stone face and looks at him and says 0.70
00:51:52.540 kill them all yeah and he gives it great he looks at her like i got you and then he runs off to be 0.53
00:52:00.140 in battle so when he gets back and she's like i'm so glad you survived i hate how things went down 0.99
00:52:05.200 but at least i have you and he looks at her and he says a line that will come up quite a bit in
00:52:11.100 the series he looks at her and he says there is no life without you and he truly believes that
00:52:18.540 that's why this pendant is like perfect for them no this is what i was thinking yeah it's like
00:52:22.740 that is them like all that there is is each other in the world and that after he says that to her
00:52:29.320 that's when they go off and do their thing and they spend the evening together and that is
00:52:34.620 unfortunately the last happy moment of the episode i'm gonna say but if you want your
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00:52:48.340 who owns the company she's so lovely like she designs all the pieces herself and it's anyway
00:52:52.140 it's beautiful if you want to get your the lover's pendant or any other pieces from common era jewelry
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00:53:04.820 jewelry from common era you can also go to commonera.com slash nefer tv to also get that
00:53:10.500 discount anyway i just wanted to shout them out and i agree like i don't you know like we're doing
00:53:15.120 like they're a brand partner i want to shout them out but it just the design of this it's like
00:53:19.360 these two people clinging to each other and everything else falls away like and i feel
00:53:23.820 again i don't know the name of the actress but andy whitfield is selling the hell out of this
00:53:27.940 i'm just like he loves this woman like it's such a and then they're of course found in the morning
00:53:35.080 um nude by the glabber i think yes yeah he rolls up with a few of his his minions
00:53:42.720 and you know just that's when the reality of the world just smack them in the face
00:53:48.660 you know actually first I want to say because this is like halfway through the episode so I
00:53:54.040 think at this point we're going to take a little you know I just shouted our brand partner let's
00:53:58.280 take a little commercial break and we'll come back to see what happens to to these lovers 0.97
00:54:03.660 and goddamn glabber and everybody else in the show so we'll be back um after some some commercials 0.98
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00:56:52.000 Much like Spartacus and his wife waking up, and it's time for a bunch of more shitty things to happen to this hot man and his hot wife. 0.94
00:56:59.640 So Glaber rolls up. 0.99
00:57:01.420 He's like, God damn it, Spartacus, you're too hot and excellent. 0.99
00:57:03.940 and also you deserted the Roman army 1.00
00:57:06.020 and I'm going to separate you from your wife, 0.99
00:57:08.580 enslave her, enslave you. 1.00
00:57:10.260 That's what's going on. 1.00
00:57:11.440 And fuck you. 1.00
00:57:12.660 Well, what it is is, I mean, they're sleeping. 1.00
00:57:15.200 They roll up on a couple of horses.
00:57:17.660 Some other men we can't see,
00:57:19.400 but we'll see them eventually.
00:57:21.140 Then he just rides up
00:57:22.520 and all of a sudden there's a shadow over them 0.99
00:57:25.020 and they wake up and they're like, oh shit. 0.99
00:57:27.880 Because I mean, think about it. 1.00
00:57:28.980 Horses are tall.
00:57:30.240 And if you have a man sitting on a horse
00:57:32.180 in front of you when you're laying down,
00:57:33.940 it's going to be towering over you that's going to be jolting to wake up to something like that 0.55
00:57:38.200 instantly as soon as they see him a couple of the roman guards come in snatch her up start running
00:57:44.000 off with her she's screaming reaching for spartacus he's trying to get to her mind you 0.97
00:57:48.400 they're both butt-ass naked so you know take that how you will then some other guards come up grab 0.99
00:57:54.960 spartacus start beating the shit out of him because obviously they're gonna go by what 0.99
00:57:59.920 gleber said and he's an enemy of rome so you need to beat the crap out of him so i feel like i want 0.96
00:58:04.940 to point out like this is the only way you could catch spartacus unawares nude sleeping on a cliff 0.91
00:58:10.620 um in the arms of his wife like you have to bring 25 men and all the horse like because he's so
00:58:16.100 such a talented fighter and so smart and so vigilant it's just like this is the only way
00:58:20.260 you could have caught him because otherwise his guard was down yeah it was absolutely and so you 0.99
00:58:25.420 You know, obviously, Glover is like, you fucked me over. 0.99
00:58:28.600 So now you're going to pay for it. 0.99
00:58:29.960 So Spartacus being the chivalrous man that he is.
00:58:32.860 OK, fine. I did what I did.
00:58:34.340 I own that. But let my wife go. 0.99
00:58:36.500 She had nothing to do with this. 1.00
00:58:37.700 Glover being the petty little bitch that he is. 1.00
00:58:40.260 Fuck you. I'm going to take your wife, put her in slavery. 1.00
00:58:43.360 I'm going to take your ass, too. 1.00
00:58:44.900 And he says something that I want to say that it's been said numerous times in ancient Roman history, 1.00
00:58:52.280 where he tells them the shadow of rome is vast and you're going to die under it so yeah and that's 0.61
00:59:00.380 really how they viewed themselves is they they were the end-all be-all of of civilization and
00:59:10.480 so because they had gotten so big they they felt like they couldn't be defeated so if you went 1.00
00:59:16.960 against me you're gonna fall under the shadow of rome and we're gonna fuck your shit up that's 0.99
00:59:21.860 that that was the attitude he had as a roman military man add that to the point where he 1.00
00:59:28.060 thought that he had been slighted by spartacus he was he was going to come at him with everything
00:59:33.980 he had and he could tell by the way he reacted that taking his wife was going to cut the deepest 0.98
00:59:39.960 yeah so that's why he was like no fucking he probably would have been willing to just 0.97
00:59:44.840 leave her there by herself and take spartacus away but when he saw his reaction to her being 0.94
00:59:49.980 taken away that i think that something in his head just clicked and was like yeah this is how
00:59:54.080 it's gonna go because he just like he's so threatened by his gorgeous masculinity so
01:00:01.220 spartacus um he's knocked out and he wakes up and it's he's on a ship sailing the ajxc heading for
01:00:07.480 capua i wanted to mention here again as per ever he's not wearing anything he's wearing like and
01:00:13.420 he's he's like his friend is there the one who stole the wine um some of the other guys from
01:00:18.700 from their auxiliary group um they the ones that they could capture they captured so like there's
01:00:25.620 some people there he knows but they're like sort of under they're like below decks on whatever the
01:00:29.360 ship is and just water splashing in but as per ever impervious to the cold no clothes on and i'm
01:00:36.160 like you know what who's going to survive this journey like this is this guy and they don't need
01:00:41.500 shirts they they were all cut up from battle they've got the water which was salt water splashing
01:00:47.180 them and that never bothers them you so spartacus wakes up and he's like and his friend is like oh
01:00:52.540 yeah it's been like three days or something so i'm just like are these men just soiling themselves
01:00:56.480 down below they're chained but it's just like you know what they're fine with it because they're
01:01:01.580 thracians and like they got this like that's really how they acted too it's like la la la 0.94
01:01:06.600 let's just get where we're going i'm sorry i could not do that nope nope and this is where i was
01:01:12.480 pushing like wait a minute the blonde woman glaver's wife i'm like did she go on a ship like 0.99
01:01:16.480 this in her fur coat with her bottle of wine like excuse me like what was her journey like so
01:01:24.800 anyway so they're heading so now we're in capua so we get to capua um what's the how do you say
01:01:31.480 her name the blonde woman elitia elitia yep okay so basically he shows up he's like babe i did
01:01:39.260 amazing and thrace and she's like everyone knows you didn't like you're here way too soon to have
01:01:44.940 conquered anything yeah so they kind of have a moment there and then but she's like the whole
01:01:51.280 thing with her is like we need to get like my father to favor you he doesn't because you obviously 0.97
01:01:56.840 suck but she's like okay so my father's putting on some her father the senator is putting gladiator 0.97
01:02:02.600 fights and so glaber's like okay well i'll offer these thracians as fighters and like that'll make 0.94
01:02:07.940 your father support me maybe um like of course i won't work but that's what he decides to do
01:02:13.380 And of course, she she is, again, caught in the middle of her father and her husband.
01:02:19.720 She wants to please both of them. She knows her husband is not pleasing her father.
01:02:23.840 She knows her father is the one with all the clout.
01:02:26.720 That's the one who's more important.
01:02:28.540 Yeah, he has the money. He's a longtime senator.
01:02:32.060 And so she's like, dude, we got to get you higher up on dad's ladder here because just as she knows,
01:02:39.700 everything that glaver suggests is probably a really shitty idea and it's gonna work he's the
01:02:45.520 worst but she still goes along with it because she's hoping beyond all hope that this next idea
01:02:52.440 is gonna be the one that gets her father on his side and so again she starts gassing him up okay
01:02:58.400 yeah you know we'll bring it to my dad and and hopefully that this will this will be the thing 0.99
01:03:04.220 that gets you where you want to go and then she again goes to her dad plays the daddy's little 0.85
01:03:10.540 girl card to get you know his slaves his newly acquired thration slaves into the gladiator games 1.00
01:03:17.160 because had glabber gone and asked him he would have been like fuck off you little bitch get away 1.00
01:03:22.240 from me so she had to go and cry daddy please this is what's going to take for him to prove his worth 1.00
01:03:27.900 to you and of course daddy's little girl she gets what she wants so yeah he gets to have his 0.56
01:03:34.280 thrations go out on the sands and fight the gladiators but it was not because no albinius 0.98
01:03:41.500 had any sort of of confidence in him on accomplishing anything no this he's just a useless 0.87
01:03:50.420 person glabber i'm glad that that is the vibe i'm supposed to be getting from his character because
01:03:55.500 out as a vibe i was getting from the character yes so the next scene is is kind of like a classic
01:04:01.860 like 2010s cable show nude unnecessary orgy scene um there's a party and my favorite part of it
01:04:12.300 so there's just like people there's just like basically nude people mostly women um just
01:04:19.580 making out all over the place but there's these these women who are sort of like in like little 0.98
01:04:24.260 shallow pools of water just kind of like rolling around sensually and i was like these actresses 1.00
01:04:29.520 must have gotten so raisiny and those are actually those pools have very specific names and very 1.00
01:04:35.840 specific meanings okay tell me about that in one second but don't you agree that these nude 0.99
01:04:41.600 actresses who would have spent a day or two or a week filming writhing around in this water like
01:04:46.460 imagine being a bathtub for that long like your skin would just prune like it would and i'm sorry
01:04:52.700 you would have to pay me a whole hell of a lot of money and that water would have to be warm 0.51
01:04:57.260 because if it wasn't warm and you had me rolling around in it we'd have problems yeah it's just
01:05:02.540 I don't know how do you cast for something like that how do you I know how you cast for something
01:05:07.620 like that because I saw this in the trivia there's a New Zealand company there's just like people who
01:05:12.560 do nude events and they just hired this company and they're like can you come here and do what
01:05:17.460 you do and we'll just edit in as much of it as we can and edit out what we can't so it's just like
01:05:22.120 a bunch of just people who do this professionally would not be me but more power to them good for
01:05:29.380 you new zealand i don't know how much business they get but it's just like boobs everywhere 1.00
01:05:33.440 so tell me about these pools though that these women are okay so typically this type of party 0.99
01:05:39.180 would only be thrown by someone high in society someone with a lot of money and it will be thrown
01:05:45.020 within their villa their villa people had places to live but you had a difference in what people
01:05:51.440 had. Villas could be a smaller villa or a larger one. The more money you had, the larger your villa
01:05:57.300 would be. The commoners would live in more like an apartment type of place. These pools were called
01:06:04.560 implovium. And what it was is they were a shallow, rectangular, sunken pool that would be in the
01:06:14.720 center of the roman house in generally the atrium area and the atrium would be like the main entrance
01:06:22.660 hall and it would be where they would throw most of their parties this pool had a kind of a dual
01:06:29.520 use it was used to collect rainwater to have water for the household and so up directly above it
01:06:39.300 would be an opening in the house and that had a specific name too um complovium and it was
01:06:46.140 basically um a sunroof in in the villa where it'd be the openings where the rainwater would come down
01:06:51.840 and they would collect it in the pools down at below um so it would be to collect the rainwater 1.00
01:06:57.880 but it would also be for these parties to have naked women rolling around in the water so if 0.96
01:07:04.480 you if you were a rich roman with a nice villa you would have this pool because it served a very 0.99
01:07:10.680 specific purpose the majority of its purpose was to collect rain water to give water for the house 1.00
01:07:15.900 i don't want to drink the water after the women have been writhing around in it i really hope 1.00
01:07:21.060 they would have swapped that out but i don't know that doesn't sound like warm water either 1.00
01:07:25.360 yeah i mean but then you have to think about how often did it rain there so you know how how would
01:07:34.040 they throw that water out would would they consider it a waste because if it had been a
01:07:39.280 long time they hadn't gotten rain i mean would you would you waste that water i mean i don't know
01:07:45.600 i don't know but this this scene has just got a lot of boobs and i recently read a book called
01:07:49.440 not built in a day by emma southern who's an author who writes a lot about ancient rome
01:07:53.560 and from that book i learned that the most luxurious thing that you would do as a roman
01:07:58.720 man to show that you were like a rich and wealthy person like you would present your beautiful young 0.95
01:08:03.780 boy concubines so the fact that this scene is all just like boobs boobs i'm like that's not
01:08:10.800 accurate but they couldn't do a scene where it's just like boys boys that would have not been 0.52
01:08:16.620 accepted well there was one there was one particular thing that happens in this scene
01:08:21.900 that the first time i saw literally every time i see it i laugh there is a little person
01:08:27.200 oh i didn't even notice there's a little person that runs through there 0.99
01:08:31.060 with kind of a helmet on but the top of the helmet has a penis on it an erect penis on it 0.98
01:08:37.980 so it looks like a horn coming out of his head and he's running around the the the atrium with 0.99
01:08:46.000 that on his head and every time i see that i crack up because i'm like oh my god but that's
01:08:52.560 just how debaucherous these people were yeah but they didn't consider it to be that that was a 0.64
01:08:58.420 typical rich roman party you had all of this stuff going on in your parties and no one better than i 0.96
01:09:06.480 had it in fact they would partake in whatever it was that you had there i mean and you would have
01:09:11.260 various different people performing at these you would have the dancers you'd have poets there
01:09:15.560 getting sonnets in the corner you would have um gladiators doing fake fighting in the corner if
01:09:21.040 that was what the party was was um promoting you would have musicians there you would have a lot
01:09:27.300 of different things happening in this party it would have been a constant stimulus thing going
01:09:32.460 on or some whatever it was you chose to focus on that would be the thing you focus on but
01:09:37.200 it could probably be overstimulating to some people because let's let's be real adhd existed
01:09:42.860 back then yeah they just didn't know what it was so there were probably people that were extremely 0.99
01:09:46.300 overstimulated about what was happening at these stupid parties but it was it was just really like 0.99
01:09:51.660 you said earlier just one big orgy yeah no so there's there's kind of like background orgies 0.99
01:09:56.320 happening but what we're meeting what we're going to do is meet a whole bunch of characters
01:09:59.700 who are i guess main characters in this show that i have not watched before um so if you could so
01:10:05.560 and some of them well two of them i recognize deeply two two people are very very well-known
01:10:12.680 actor and actress that you you know who they are as soon as you see them okay so first can we talk
01:10:17.860 about xena warrior princess lucy lawless is here in a red wig um and who is her character her
01:10:24.840 character is lucretia and she is the wife of the main character body artists and body artists is
01:10:32.840 the brother from the mummy john hannah he is um and just but have you ever heard his his true
01:10:39.880 accent no he's more like scottish i think it is okay oh yeah he is scottish i think he's in four
01:10:45.300 weddings and a funeral and he's scottish in that yeah um but he turns it down and just makes it
01:10:49.640 straight british in this but body artist owns a lanista so that that's a uh he is a lanista
01:10:55.960 and he like owns he owns a ludus so he owns gladiator training school yep okay so he he's
01:11:03.200 already established as that this isn't something he's trying to work his way up and he's established
01:11:07.300 as having a ludus um he won't necessarily be considered the premier lanista of capua but he
01:11:13.960 is definitely a known one he just has not this will come up later he hasn't really gotten the
01:11:20.000 right gladiator to really put him above and beyond all the other lutuses within capua so
01:11:26.880 bariatis is the main lanista lucretia is his wife lucretia is xeno warrior princess which if you
01:11:33.760 haven't watched xeno warrior princess i mean it's a bit outdated on like because they don't really
01:11:38.000 have cgi but if you watch it you have to appreciate her this character even more if you watch 0.97
01:11:43.520 xena because the attitude carries forward the attitude of of she knows she's the shit 0.76
01:11:51.480 obviously they're doing completely different things because you won't see lucretia out there 0.97
01:11:55.460 fighting anyone but i think it's sort of like in the sense of like andy whitfield like just
01:11:59.900 embodies this character who's just like so you want to root for him like he's just such a main
01:12:05.460 character energy like lucy lawless brings this with her like she's a tall gorgeous like full
01:12:11.860 figured woman like she's muscular where it's just like you can't keep your eyes off of her 0.99
01:12:15.680 so like clearly like you cast her in a role that's going to be like a powerful woman so i presume we're
01:12:21.480 going to see a lot of her um and fun fact i believe she's married to mr denite who is the
01:12:26.880 creator of the show oh well that would make sense and also they're filming in new zealand where i
01:12:31.300 believe she lives yeah she has that accent when she's not speaking in a british accent she has
01:12:36.400 new zealand accent so we meet some other people played by actors who i don't know but one of them
01:12:42.340 is um the other uh lanista the the rival more successful one yes his name is solonius 0.99
01:12:50.320 and he is a dick and and he knows he's a dick and he carries himself as a dick on purpose 0.99
01:12:57.720 because he somehow has gotten more of the favor when it comes to lanistas within capua 1.00
01:13:04.740 um she is the one where if someone is going to throw um some gladiator uh games to um in honor
01:13:13.360 of someone that may have passed away in their family or just because they want to honor their
01:13:16.940 family they'll throw gladiator games they would go to salonius before they go to bariatas because 0.96
01:13:21.940 he's like the more successful guy he is and obviously salonius and bariatas fucking hate 0.79
01:13:27.400 each other however salonius really likes lucretia and she does not hide his flirting with her 0.89
01:13:34.540 at all he definitely always gives her the look that you could do so much better than body artist
01:13:41.280 you should be with me because i would treat you like a queen kind of thing so he um he's
01:13:48.180 a really big antagonist in in body artist's life because he's basically always going up against him
01:13:56.100 when it comes to trying to secure his his gladiators for gladiator games because obviously
01:14:01.220 you make money doing that when your gladiators fight you get paid for that whether they live
01:14:06.940 or die you get paid to have your gladiators in these games and so you're gonna want to get as
01:14:11.920 many of your gladiators secured for these games as possible and Salonius is always one-upping him
01:14:17.160 on that he's always got more of his men in there than Badiatis does so obviously he's just he's 0.71
01:14:22.340 gonna be unliked plus he's a dick this whole sequence is kind of like these guys come up 0.98
01:14:27.020 body artist comes out he's like and here's my gladiators and it's like two guys and then 0.98
01:14:31.340 solonis comes out here's my like 17 guys but two of those gladiators become main characters you
01:14:39.060 said i don't remember them so there are two the two um gladiators that body artist puts up um is
01:14:45.660 crixus is one of them he's from gaul which is why i brought up gaul earlier because he's like
01:14:50.760 germany slash france yeah and he is basically the current champion of capua at the time
01:14:56.800 because he's introduced as the undefeated Gaul
01:15:00.280 because he just goes out there and he wrecks shop.
01:15:03.320 The other gladiator that Bariatus has is Barca.
01:15:07.180 And he is from Carthage.
01:15:11.060 If you know anything about Roman history,
01:15:13.620 Carthage is where Hannibal is from.
01:15:18.200 Hannibal is known for marching war elephants
01:15:20.520 through the Alps to get to the Roman legions
01:15:24.900 to fight them with these humongous animals that probably none of them had ever even seen
01:15:30.880 Hannibal was a force and Barca is from Carthage which is where he's from so
01:15:35.900 obviously Barca is going to be this big man and he's going to be a hell of a fighter because
01:15:41.680 that's just kind of how they bred them there apparently so that's why those two really stand
01:15:46.560 out because they are the cream of the crop when it comes to the gladiators that Valiatus has at
01:15:51.780 his ludus okay well and also he only has two so he'll the other guy brings out a whole bunch and
01:15:57.340 he only brings it to and then glabber comes out he's like and here's my thracians and it's like
01:16:01.980 spartacus his friend some other guys it's just like these guys are all going to be the ones who
01:16:06.820 get killed by the gladiators so we're going to have fun watching them being executed
01:16:11.800 that's the way that's the thing about romans they liked carnage they they liked to see it 0.98
01:16:20.540 didn't matter if to them if it was a fair fight where you know it's a gladiator against a slave
01:16:26.460 who can barely even pick up a sword because it's probably too heavy for them they didn't care they
01:16:31.560 just wanted to see blood they wanted to see someone get killed and that's a mentality that
01:16:37.260 sticks with the roman empire for years because obviously you have the coliseum later on where
01:16:44.040 they have the gladiatorial battles and people just getting killed getting dismembered they just
01:16:50.460 like they lived to see that kind of stuff and so obviously if glabber comes in and says oh these
01:16:55.340 are our thracian slaves of mine that are going to get killed at gladon in in the arena they're 0.98
01:17:00.780 gonna be like oh more blood they're gonna get a hit of it let's watch the thracians be killed 0.99
01:17:05.260 that sounds great that sounds great because why watch gladiators kill each other when we can watch 0.98
01:17:09.760 them kill a lesser person and keep the gladiators for later fights you know and the concept of this
01:17:16.000 is kind of like execution it's just like execution via gladiator like these guys it's like they're
01:17:21.500 quote-unquote traitors they're deserters and so glabber is like yeah i'm offering these guys up
01:17:26.420 to be killed by the gladiators and then we cut to basically you know there's some conversations
01:17:30.780 but we kind of covered what those are about and then we're back to spartacus under the amphitheater
01:17:36.040 chained up it's kind of like well now you know how i got here yeah and you know one thing i want
01:17:41.460 to bring up is after they were introduced as being the slaves that were going to be killed
01:17:46.060 they were kind of just left there just just like kneeling down just everyone being able to still 0.64
01:17:52.360 look at them but imagine what this orgy looked like yeah these women in the water like there's 1.00
01:17:58.960 just like the little person with a penis hat like just like boobs everywhere like that is not 1.00
01:18:05.660 something they would have ever seen before i mean their jaws would have hit the ground yeah no we 1.00
01:18:10.480 we don't do this kind of shit but they they would have been in awe of everything that they saw 0.96
01:18:15.040 because number one none of their homes would have been as big as that villa number two they would 1.00
01:18:20.380 have never seen the the debauchery of a roman party and so that would have had that would have 1.00
01:18:27.020 thrown them off their game i mean think about it where that's pretty much less than you see before 1.00
01:18:31.360 you go and sleep before you go and you're gonna fight you're gonna probably still be thinking 0.99
01:18:36.460 about that shit because that's some wild shit that you've never seen before yeah no it's just 0.99
01:18:41.600 like oh eyes wide shut okay like what's happening um but also when you're talking earlier about like 1.00
01:18:47.160 the size of the the amphitheater it's like 60 000 people it's like for to the thracians as well i
01:18:51.700 didn't think about that but like so seeing this party is just like what is happening and then as
01:18:55.020 soon as you're thrust out in the middle of that arena it's just like 60 000 people in an arena
01:18:58.740 like that's an unreal thing for anyone to experience and think about how that would
01:19:03.620 have been sectioned out so um just like we've compared it to like an nfl stadium it would have
01:19:08.540 been kind of set up the way you would set up an nfl stadium in the fact that you would have all of
01:19:13.720 your regular seating you know people buy their tickets to go whatever but then you would have
01:19:18.960 your suites you would have your executive boxes that's what they had in this amphitheater they
01:19:24.460 had something called the pulvenous and that is where the elite would sit it's a box separated 0.99
01:19:31.960 from all the plebs when i say plebs i'm talking about plebeians and plebeians are just the common 0.90
01:19:37.580 people of it's just like the middle class of rome the plebs would be all in the common area so they 0.99
01:19:44.560 would be packed in like sardines and just sweating and dirty and screaming and spilling food and wine 1.00
01:19:51.060 on each other where you'd have the elite and the pulvinist in the basically the owner's box where
01:19:56.620 they would be getting served wine and served food it's exactly that especially like the sweets and
01:20:01.720 the yeah yeah and being fanned because you know it was hot as hell so they'd have a servant sitting
01:20:07.040 there fanning them and they'd be dressed in their nice clothing and just they'd be sitting there
01:20:11.760 just looking at everybody else like you are beneath me kind of thing and I mean that is still
01:20:17.180 something that's kind of carried on to today's society where you you have that at a stadium where
01:20:21.580 you have your suites where the people that have the money are going to get the suite and they're
01:20:25.040 going to be separated from the general public and they're not going to have to be dealing with as
01:20:29.020 much of the screaming and all that that's something that's just constantly carried over
01:20:32.640 but it would just be to me a lot more amplified back then because so many more people were part
01:20:39.220 of the plebeians than they were of the high society so you'd have a very select few sitting
01:20:43.820 in the polveness compared to the remaining 60 000 people yeah that are packed into this theater so 0.97
01:20:50.960 it would have been a distinct thing that even the thracians when they went out there to fight they
01:20:56.340 would have been terrified but they still would have noticed that because yeah hard thing to miss 1.00
01:21:00.860 what's kind of like all the roman make like glabber and then like his wife and then her dad 1.00
01:21:06.000 like and then john hannah from the mummy lucy lawless like they're like the box is all kind 1.00
01:21:10.760 of those characters yep yeah sitting separate so we see um his friend his friend who stole the wine
01:21:17.340 is fighting against a gladiator and like he does pretty good but like he's wearing a loincloth and
01:21:22.420 like the other guys in full armor and like and very well trained i mean yeah he is trained to
01:21:28.420 go out there and kill people that are just as trained in him as him so there's no way he can
01:21:33.200 lose against someone that's just using he was probably like a sheep herder or something back 0.98
01:21:37.980 home he would only pick up a sword to defend themselves when they needed to he's not a trained
01:21:43.140 fighter so he's never gonna stand a chance against a trained fighter yeah well and that reminded me
01:21:49.420 at the beginning too
01:21:50.340 when Spartacus had his first scene
01:21:51.760 with his hot wife
01:21:52.640 and he was like,
01:21:54.580 you know,
01:21:54.860 all I want to do
01:21:55.460 is be a sheep farmer
01:21:56.480 and like grow some wheat
01:21:58.300 and we'll do that soon, babe,
01:21:59.780 as soon as I just do
01:22:00.520 this one last army thing.
01:22:02.500 So I'm just like,
01:22:03.040 all of them just want to be
01:22:03.880 little sheep farmers.
01:22:05.400 This isn't the life they want. 0.60
01:22:06.900 They just want to grow something
01:22:08.240 and have a family
01:22:09.820 and just be happy.
01:22:11.120 That's all they wanted.
01:22:12.560 And think about it.
01:22:13.440 Honestly, most of us,
01:22:14.380 all we want to do
01:22:14.960 is just go to our job,
01:22:16.240 do what we got to do,
01:22:17.000 get our paycheck,
01:22:17.820 come home
01:22:18.260 and spend time with our family.
01:22:19.420 go out and do fun things we just want to live our lives we want to we don't want to get involved in
01:22:24.040 the drama we just want to live our lives and it was the same with them obviously they couldn't
01:22:28.500 kick back and watch the 70 inch flat screen but they still they could do fun things they could
01:22:33.860 have they could just enjoy life yeah not living this like constant blood sport nightmare so his 1.00
01:22:41.500 friend is killed um and then well so alicia is just like oh my god aren't these thracians great 0.99
01:22:48.440 isn't glabbers it wasn't great he brought these thrations and her dad's like no he sucks like 0.98
01:22:52.940 your husband still sucks yeah and it's funny because at the party where she was like daddy 0.99
01:22:58.260 look all the people are happy that he's going to have all these thrations thrations be killed 1.00
01:23:01.720 he kind of looks at her and he's like look it might be working out now but you come to me 1.00
01:23:07.040 crying about him again your tears are going to be met with a basically a no i'm not doing shit
01:23:11.780 else for him so yeah she better do good in this or it's the end of him and he carries that attitude 0.98
01:23:19.440 towards glabber into the pulverness we're like i don't give a fuck what's happening with these 1.00
01:23:23.900 slaves that are getting killed by gladiators i still don't like your bitch ass and i'm still 1.00
01:23:28.060 not giving you anything but you know go off go do what you gotta do and he really he really portrayed 1.00
01:23:34.260 that to alithia basically saying my my mind isn't changed just because the the crowd likes what's 0.99
01:23:40.680 happening with these thrations he's still a fucking bitch and i don't want to do anything for 0.99
01:23:44.800 him and honestly good for the dad i'm like i can't believe i'm on the dad side but yeah 0.99
01:23:49.780 because you know he was an ass too being an older senator man he would have been so privileged that 0.99
01:23:56.980 he would have been a dickhead himself but glabber was even more shmarmy than he was and so he just 0.99
01:24:03.880 didn't like him so spartacus he's up it's his turn like he's freed from where he was you know 0.99
01:24:10.160 chain in the like waiting room he came out he comes out and he like looks hot as hell and he
01:24:15.920 but and i'm also just like okay this show is called spartica it's like i know he's gonna do
01:24:20.700 well and then just kind of to raise the stakes because we know by now how good he is at fighting
01:24:24.460 we've seen all these battle scenes so they don't just put him against one gladiator they put him
01:24:29.140 against four gladiators because just to make it be a bit more suspenseful because it would be
01:24:33.840 too quick for him to dispatch one gladiator and the thing that i love about this scene
01:24:39.200 is that they sent out different gladiator types and i didn't know there was different gladiator
01:24:44.320 types but yeah you can see there he initially is fighting the guy that just killed his friend
01:24:48.840 um he was mormillo um you know he has the the longer sword and the gladius the smaller sword 0.95
01:24:55.100 the longer shield and the smaller sword spartacus out there with just one sword which was fucked up 0.89
01:25:00.760 because you can't fight someone that has a shield and a sword with just a sword but they send out 0.97
01:25:06.680 their they send out another mumillo but then they send out a retarius which is someone that
01:25:12.020 fights with a net and a trident and then they sent out a haplomachus who they have a smaller
01:25:21.680 round shield and a a big sword and they're they're able to have a little bit bigger sword
01:25:29.460 because their shield is smaller and more lightweight you can't have two heavy things
01:25:34.300 otherwise you just can't fight well so either you have a heavy sword and a light heavy sword
01:25:38.480 and a light shield or a heavy shield and a light sword so those they were you had two of the same
01:25:44.620 but then you had two other ones so and they have totally different fighting styles so the person
01:25:49.080 with the net obviously is going to try to catch you up in the net and then stab you with the 0.96
01:25:52.260 trident so she fighting against these different forms of trained gladiators would be hard as hell 0.99
01:25:59.600 because you have to kind of shift how you're fighting against them
01:26:03.400 because they're fighting differently against you.
01:26:06.440 Plus, you got four people coming at you at the same time.
01:26:09.100 Yeah, and that is exactly why the crowd started doing.
01:26:13.080 Yeah, the crowd doesn't like it and the dad doesn't like it.
01:26:15.500 They're like, we don't want to watch a guy.
01:26:17.460 They don't understand Spartacus' deal yet.
01:26:19.980 But they're like, this is too much.
01:26:21.520 And Glabber's like, no, no, but Spartacus is the worst one.
01:26:25.200 I need to humiliate him.
01:26:27.200 for because because he humiliated me because he's so hot and capable i have to i have to make this 0.92
01:26:33.480 as bad as possible so at first it's like yeah like he's struggling but then so he's on his knees and
01:26:38.620 he looks up and the one the gladiator his shield has like a red serpent on it and he's like oh my
01:26:42.860 god this this is like my hot wife's on her dreams me kneeling before like a serpent and then he 0.92
01:26:49.140 hears her voice in his head saying kill them all and he just goes off i mean it's like something 0.99
01:26:56.680 clicks in his head and he's like for 1.00
01:26:58.660 Sura and he just
01:27:00.660 I mean he just
01:27:02.140 like something just possessed him
01:27:04.620 and he's fighting in a way
01:27:06.780 that someone in his position should
01:27:08.700 not be able to fight against
01:27:10.640 these trained gladiators
01:27:12.260 I mean he's cutting off limbs 0.93
01:27:14.980 he's stabbing people 0.93
01:27:16.520 in the side 0.99
01:27:18.020 he cut off the one guy at the knees
01:27:20.540 and then the guy is like trying to crawl off
01:27:22.540 and he's like 1.00
01:27:24.400 no I'm not what the motherfucker 1.00
01:27:25.560 i mean and one of them he kills by running the sword up underneath his chin 0.99
01:27:31.140 i had to turn away i had to turn away oh girl that was the best one i mean he literally just
01:27:37.320 thrusts it up underneath his chin goes through the dude's whole head well i'm you're not surviving
01:27:41.820 that because that yeah that has taken out everything pertinent in your body and i mean
01:27:47.420 he just kills these people in horrific ways he cuts the arm off one of the other ones before he
01:27:52.580 totally does him in it's just like he accomplished something that a regular human should not have 1.00
01:27:59.140 been able to accomplish but it's spartacus and fuck you he can accomplish anything so 0.99
01:28:05.360 with his loincloth and his leather boots all he needed was a sword like he's just like he's got 1.00
01:28:13.460 the power of just like excellence and hotness and the crowd is just like oh my god fuck yeah 0.91
01:28:18.240 we love this guy and of course this makes glaber look bad he's because this is supposed to be the 0.66
01:28:23.600 grand finale was the death of this guy so i'm extra happy that glaber is upset about it
01:28:29.860 um and so the spartacus looks up to the the the box the poor witness yep and he's looking at him 0.79
01:28:36.360 like bitch glaber like exactly exactly okay i mean spartacus really gives him a look like 0.95
01:28:42.420 what else you got i mean bro yeah yeah that's really how he's looking at him and glaber's 1.00
01:28:47.900 look at him like you motherfucker you were supposed to die how the hell did you do this 1.00
01:28:53.040 you made me look bad now you're making me look bad again in front of 60 000 people what the hell 1.00
01:28:59.120 yeah that's how much glabber sucks so the crowd is like the crowd is like let him live because 0.99
01:29:05.120 this whole thing was supposed to be his execution but glabber's like no no he's still he's still 0.99
01:29:08.920 sentenced to death this was supposed to be his execution and then the dad the senator dad is 0.69
01:29:13.400 like well it would be unwise to go against the crowd and the glabbers like no no man i hate him 0.68
01:29:19.280 so much he's so hot and i hate him and alessia even chimes in but father i mean he he had all
01:29:27.260 this that he did towards my husband and but he tries to she tries to to smooth it over by not
01:29:32.540 not necessarily it was against my husband it was against rome because romans were always like for
01:29:37.220 rome it was everything they did was for rome so don't say that he committed all these grievances
01:29:41.660 against my husband say it was a grievance against rome to try to get my dad on my side and her dad 0.86
01:29:47.240 was still like no fuck that but this is like the other they're like ambitious yet not successful 0.94
01:29:54.240 um gladiator school owner badiatis is like john hannah from the mummy he's like well what if i 0.97
01:30:00.360 buy a spartacus from glaber and train him at my ludus to be a gladiator because he's obviously
01:30:04.920 got like the raw talent and glaber's like i don't want to and the dad is like do it son-in-law you 0.99
01:30:10.660 bitch this is a good idea is what the crowd would like and we do not want my favor this is what you 0.96
01:30:17.360 can do yeah and it's so it's funny because if you had money you were in charge but when it came to 0.98
01:30:24.660 gladiator fights you really had to do what the crowd wanted you to do yeah it didn't matter how
01:30:29.760 high ranking you were people if you didn't do what they wanted like they could rush the stage like 0.96
01:30:33.880 anything that's so many people yes so i mean the senator was albinius was like fuck it dude i don't 0.93
01:30:41.160 really care what he did to you the crowd wants him to live i gotta let him live man get on board 0.98
01:30:46.720 like glabber i see that you have this like petty grievance against this like hot excellent person 1.00
01:30:52.000 andy whitfield but like fuck you um i'm gonna sell him to to this guy john hannah from the mummy 0.99
01:30:59.160 and to go train at gladiator school and then um he's like okay you're gonna be allowed to live 0.99
01:31:04.480 but he's like oh first but like he has clever like what's what's this guy's name 1.00
01:31:08.160 like the whiny little bitch he is 0.99
01:31:13.780 yes because i mean he just had that pouty look on his face like a two-year-old that was told 1.00
01:31:22.080 they can't have ice cream he was just kind of she should have just like folded his arms and just
01:31:26.620 went because that's the look he had on his face and he responded i never cared to ask you didn't 1.00
01:31:32.660 even ask the name of your arch nemesis you goddamn bitch oh here's the thing though i was thinking 0.99
01:31:38.840 spartacus is so competent capable hot amazing performance like wonderful it's like you need 0.99
01:31:45.760 to have some like glabber to just be he has to be so awful to balance how amazing spartacus is
01:31:51.920 So I'm like, I respect the show, like had to make him so awful. 0.88
01:31:56.000 But I'm just like, I really hope this season while Andy Whitfield is still on the show, that Glabber gets killed.
01:32:02.800 But don't tell me.
01:32:04.040 I'm not saying a word.
01:32:05.220 But I want to see that happen.
01:32:07.880 So anyway, they're like, well, we don't know his name.
01:32:10.340 And then Badiatis is like, well, there was a famous legendary Thracian king called Spartacus.
01:32:14.760 So let's call him Spartacus.
01:32:16.840 And then the dad is like, okay, he can live. 0.99
01:32:19.340 And the crowd is just like, fuck yeah, we love this guy. 0.99
01:32:21.920 like oh my god he just cut off the guy's legs we love him and the crowd starts to chant 0.99
01:32:26.120 spartacus spartacus and then just glaber and spartacus are just like 0.74
01:32:30.420 they're just like mean mugging each other like if looks could kill they would both be dead 0.99
01:32:37.300 because spartacus is looking at like fuck you i won and i'm getting pardoned and glaber is like 1.00
01:32:43.840 you fucking bitch you were supposed to die you're still making me look bad they just they just the 1.00
01:32:49.900 hatred was deep from there on out yeah no they is and this is like as well this is the first 1.00
01:32:56.500 episode of our podcast and this is the first episode of the show but the show really establishes
01:33:00.620 like so many things you're telling me are going to pay off later but it's really just like here's
01:33:04.140 the stakes here's what's up here's the people here's this rivalry like it's it really sets
01:33:08.760 everything up really well i think this isn't the most action of the series in this episode but this
01:33:14.400 episode was so necessary to show you why so many things happen later on in the season and in the
01:33:21.140 series if you didn't have some of this background on on some of these people and and some of the
01:33:26.900 hatred and and some of the ass kissing if you didn't have that background you'd be kind of
01:33:32.340 confused why things would be like oh why does he hate him so much yeah no you really it just 0.79
01:33:36.340 it was a really hard thing for them to do and they did it in like an hour long episode i think
01:33:40.640 it was an hour um i'm just setting up so many people and so much history and so much background
01:33:45.340 like it's so much to set up and they did like they got everything they did and now they're just they
01:33:50.440 just from here on out they just hit the ground running yeah it's a 13 episode season and when
01:33:56.100 you have a series that's like that that few episodes like so much has to happen in each
01:34:00.740 episode so i'm excited to see there's not room for just like a let's just have a fun episode
01:34:04.660 no everything no things have to happen i can't imagine there was anything too fun about anything
01:34:12.080 that happened if spartacus actually existed i can't imagine anything fun about his life after
01:34:18.060 he became a gladiator no i don't think you could true fair you can't really have a fun episode of
01:34:22.880 this unless it's just like a day in the life of those women in those pools yes and you know the
01:34:28.480 thing about it is is from if i remember correctly the whole story of spartacus takes place before
01:34:34.440 julius caesar it takes place before augustus it it takes place quite bc um and so it's a story
01:34:46.400 that this started like thousands of years ago that we still talk about today again this is another
01:34:53.540 one of those things where typically we're talking about women in history how their their story has
01:34:58.040 continued on until today this is a story that number one no one even knows if he actually
01:35:03.080 existed or not if or if this is just a story someone created but for a let's just say for
01:35:08.060 shits and giggles it's a story it was just created that still exists today they still
01:35:12.380 interest people today I mean that's a hell of a story well that was something like when we decided
01:35:18.920 to do the show I'm like I don't want to do too much deep diving into it because I want to be
01:35:23.080 surprised by the events but I do I did look up I'm like I know that there's a movie Spartacus
01:35:27.380 with like charlton heston from the 1950s and so i assumed i didn't know the basis of that i thought
01:35:33.900 that this show was like inspired i thought there was a book i thought this was all a book but it
01:35:38.100 says oh no this is actually a historical thing like did the person exist or not so like this
01:35:42.100 show is inspired by the history um the movie spartacus was inspired by a novel that was
01:35:47.040 inspired by spartacus so it's like the story keeps being told and retold like there's something
01:35:50.640 captivating about the idea of somebody who's enslaved and then breaks free and just like
01:35:56.300 that's there's something satisfying and like i think everyone can can root for someone like that
01:36:02.120 yeah because if you know the story of spartacus he doesn't necessarily bring rome completely to
01:36:06.240 their knees but he gets them down to at least one knee for quite a while too yeah and that's quite
01:36:12.120 an accomplishment because that was kind of at the height of of rome i mean they were they were
01:36:18.200 flourishing at that time they weren't you know getting conquered by anyone because they were
01:36:23.080 spread themselves too thin at this point they were they were a force to be reckoned with and
01:36:28.140 if you could accomplish that that was amazing well and that's why i think you have someone like
01:36:33.100 andy whitfield's performance as spartacus like who is going to be able to do that to rome and
01:36:39.080 it's like it has to be such an incredible person and the way that he portrays spartacus just in
01:36:43.500 this first episode i'm like i can see that that is the person who could do that like he's such a
01:36:47.720 such a strong character and if you're in love with him now you're just going to be more in love with
01:36:51.640 him episode by episode because he just yeah i mean andy just does a phenomenal job and spartacus
01:36:59.420 just yeah i mean he he knows he who he is and he he never lets that go he might have to make 0.98
01:37:07.940 some compromises here and there to survive but spartacus knows who the fuck he is yeah 0.90
01:37:13.980 it's such a good performance um like our next episode is gonna be episode two which i have 0.54
01:37:20.820 not yet watched um so i don't know what's going to happen can you do you have any can you give a
01:37:25.860 hint of what what happens in episode two i don't want to spoil too much but it's basically going to
01:37:32.460 be um his initiation to gladiator school being being part of the ludus yes um obviously he's
01:37:40.360 the shiny new toy in a toy box so body artist is going to be a little bit more enamored with him
01:37:45.600 And the existing gladiators are not going to like that because no one ever likes to feel like they're being replaced.
01:37:52.440 So the next episode is going to kind of show him trying to get acclimated to his new surroundings, his new surroundings getting acclimated to him.
01:38:00.960 We find out more we meet more new characters that reside within Badiatis's villa.
01:38:07.720 um we start seeing more of the dynamic between lucretia and bariatas and realize that they are
01:38:13.480 just as ride or die as anyone could ever be um we just we start seeing how what his life is really
01:38:21.320 going to start to be coming um so again i don't want to give away too much but it's just it it
01:38:26.940 shows him in his new surroundings and sort of the some of the pitfalls that go along with something
01:38:31.880 like that especially when you're going to be surrounded by a bunch of men with so much
01:38:35.600 testosterone going through them because that's what a gladiator would have and so you know there's
01:38:41.100 just there's gonna be a lot of head butting i can imagine like and i have to imagine because i
01:38:45.560 haven't watched it yet but so the episode two sacramentum gladiatorum so that episode will be
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01:39:49.920 it's kind of a funny thing because like I have the Patreon and Gina, you're coming and bringing
01:39:54.880 value added content so if you want to support this podcast it's my patreon but like we we are a team
01:40:01.220 on the show and i don't know it's our first episode so i feel like we want to have like
01:40:07.120 a feral tagline like we want to have something to be like so i don't know if it's like keep
01:40:11.260 fighting or like i don't know if it's like spartacus like i don't know and we're open to
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01:40:20.300 at the end of the episodes we are willing to hear them what's what did he say after when he killed
01:40:25.560 all the people he was like yelling it's for his wife what did he say he's like for sora
01:40:29.740 yes this episode would have been all about for sora you know what in memory of the hot wife
01:40:42.740 um and again i don't know did she reappear in the show i don't know don't tell me but like
01:40:46.760 I'm not sitting in the room.
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