Vulgar History - Peg Plunkett, Ireland's Most Successful Whore, part one

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00:00:24.480 Hello, and welcome to Vulgar History, a feminist women's history comedy podcast.

00:00:29.340 My name is Anne Foster, and this is season seven.

00:00:33.020 The overall topic for this season is how do you solve a problem like Marie Antoinette?

00:00:37.840 And the way we're doing that is through a really meandering route of just looking at

00:00:41.900 what was going on in the world before Marie was born, after her life, like what was the,

00:00:49.660 it was such an international time where so many people were traveling from place to place,

00:00:54.080 both because of the slave trade and also trade of goods and also colonialism. And for lots of

00:01:00.020 reasons, a lot of people from different countries were interacting with each other a lot. And so

00:01:05.880 this first part of the season, you might've noticed, we're focusing a lot on America and

00:01:11.860 the American Revolution era. And so you might be like, right, but what does this have to do with

00:01:18.200 today's episode, which is about an Irish brothel owner? And here's the thing. She's connected to

00:01:23.880 Marie Antoinette in ways we're going to get into. She's connected to the American Revolution in

00:01:28.000 ways we're going to get into because everyone in this world, in this time, no one's very far from

00:01:33.140 a few steps of separation from one another. And I'm so delighted to be bringing you this episode

00:01:38.720 today. Firstly, because it's the story of an Irish woman and listeners in Ireland have been

00:01:45.200 from day one. Like when I started this podcast in 2019, I was astonished that people were

00:01:52.080 listening to it from different places, not just Canada and the United States, but especially

00:01:56.120 Ireland has been there. Like I know there's been listeners there from the very beginning. So I'm

00:02:00.380 happy to bring you this story of an Irish person. We have already talked about a person who was born

00:02:06.000 in Ireland, which is Lola Montez, who, as I understand it, she can be claimed by anyone.

00:02:12.500 I think Australia is really connected to Lola Montez. She was born in Ireland though. And I

00:02:16.780 think she's got an irish sensibility about her as well and speaking of lola montez so this podcast

00:02:23.340 we talk about all kinds of different people from different historical time periods and you know

00:02:28.960 different vibes to all of them when i was putting together this season i posted um i believe it was

00:02:34.840 in the discord group that we have for people who are members of the patreon i was saying like

00:02:38.780 because i listen to music while i'm doing my research and some of the episodes were really

00:02:42.680 like Beyonce's act to Cowboy Carter, like Sally Hemings, who we were just talking about,

00:02:48.060 or Marie-Joseph Angelique, just looking at kind of the history or just thinking about these kind

00:02:52.520 of heavier themes of like the history of Black people in America and just all the trials and

00:02:58.720 tribulations in that history. And then there's other episodes where I was listening to Sabrina

00:03:03.420 Carpenter. And this is a That's That Me Espresso story for all of you, because similar to Lola

00:03:10.180 Montez. We also did an episode about a woman known just as Rochelle. Peg Plunkett from today

00:03:16.660 is one of my most favorite kinds of stories to share, which is this story of a chaos,

00:03:23.300 like very sexually liberated, just unhinged woman who was those things. Like there's other people

00:03:31.260 in history who've talked about on this podcast who, for various reasons, they were demonized

00:03:36.260 or vilified and people said like, oh, this person was actually really trashy. She was really slutty. 0.99

00:03:40.320 She was sleeping with everyone. When in fact, a lot of these women weren't. That was just what 1.00

00:03:43.740 their enemies were saying about them. Think about people like Anne Boleyn. But people like Lola

00:03:47.460 Montez, Rochelle, and now Peg Plunkett, they were fucking all those people. They were having a great 0.99

00:03:53.600 time. And these are the stories that I love to share on the show and to celebrate. And I could

00:03:57.980 not have asked for a better guest this week than Karen Moynihan herself. Yes. One of the co-hosts

00:04:05.900 Of my most favorite podcast, Double Love, the Sweet Valley High podcast, Karen Moynihan

00:04:10.720 is here with us to help share this Irish story.

00:04:13.220 And honestly, thank goodness, because Peg Plunkett goes to a lot of places and Karen's

00:04:18.760 here to explain what those places are like.

00:04:20.740 Maybe she's been to some of them.

00:04:22.280 But Karen Moynihan is not only one of my favorite podcasters, the other one being Anna Carey,

00:04:26.980 her co-host from Double Love, the Sweet Valley High podcast.

00:04:29.720 Karen is also one of the many artists that I've worked with to design merch for Vulgar History.

00:04:36.300 So you may not know Karen specifically, but you might be familiar with some of her designs,

00:04:40.980 like Goth Queen Mom Friend, the Mary Shelley shirt, or Goth Queen Superstar, the Claire Claremont

00:04:47.780 shirt, or Don't Stop DeGeezen, the William Cecil Motivational poster, the Renaissance Reformation

00:04:54.740 girl squad and our special holiday design, the holiday jumper that says tits the season. That's

00:05:00.840 Karen. So this connection between double love, the Sweet Valley High podcast and vulgar history

00:05:06.400 runs deep. And I'm happy to make it so official here by having her on the show to talk about,

00:05:11.580 honestly, a woman who she first brought to my attention. I had never heard of Peg Plunkett.

00:05:17.340 Karen is all about Peg Plunkett. And I'm just really psyched to share. We've had some heavy

00:05:22.120 episodes this series so far and i'm just glad to just bring you the story of just like a trashy 1.00

00:05:27.740 slutty woman who's having the best time although you know she has her struggles too she has her 0.98

00:05:33.760 struggles too but this is a fun one and i do want to also mention that this is part one how many

00:05:41.280 parts you'll see but in the finale of this peg plunkett mini series i am going to announce

00:05:46.500 because how could we not karen and i have schemed together to make an iconic new piece of vulgar

00:05:51.460 History merchandise themed about Peg Plunkett, and that will be available for purchase, not at

00:05:55.700 the end of this episode, but at the end of the end of the Peg Plunkett series. How many episodes

00:05:59.740 will there be? Wait and see, because we get to talking. So anyway, please enjoy part one of

00:06:06.940 Irish Heroin Peg Plunkett. So I'm joined today by Karen Moynihan, who is, I'm going to list three

00:06:19.840 important things that listeners may already know about her firstly she's the designer of 0.96

00:06:26.180 i want to say four different pieces of vulgar history merchandise i think that's right yeah

00:06:32.120 she's also co-host of double love the sweet valley high podcast and she's also an irish person um and

00:06:40.500 we're going to be talking about ireland welcome karen thank you let me just go through the merch

00:06:47.960 again in my head because i was trying to think of this because you did goth queen mom friend

00:06:52.200 mary shelley claire claremont remix yes um then you did the christmas special oh yes yeah holiday 0.78

00:07:02.360 jumper um is it tits the season i believe the season yeah yeah with a very subtle breast theme 0.91

00:07:08.900 i had to get the tits in exactly and then the renaissance reformation girl squad that was also 0.98

00:07:16.480 Yes, that was. Oh, and Don't Stop DeGeezen. 1.00

00:07:20.120 Oh my gosh, that was you too. 1.00

00:07:22.060 Yeah. And the one with the motivational poster.

00:07:25.560 Yeah, you're at least as capable as William Cecil, the motivational poster.

00:07:32.780 That was William Cecil.

00:07:34.000 You're the most, I think I've commissioned the most merch from you of any of the artists I work with.

00:07:41.080 And you're also the first vocal history of merch designer I've had as a guest on the podcast.

00:07:45.120 But most importantly to me, you're the co-host of Double Love Podcast, which is where I stole

00:07:50.760 one of your catchphrases that is now one of my catchphrases.

00:07:55.800 Herman, my pills!

00:07:57.700 A classic, a classic.

00:07:58.940 Honestly, the fact that that has breached containment from the Sweet Valley sphere

00:08:02.480 just brings me so much joy.

00:08:03.920 I'm so happy.

00:08:05.240 Well, I feel like that's what connected me first with you and Anna, as well as fellow

00:08:09.100 podcasters.

00:08:11.460 So we're going to record an after show after this.

00:08:14.480 I'm going to try to stay very on topic for this, for the listeners.

00:08:17.600 We're going to talk about Sweet Belly things later on.

00:08:19.840 But I will just say that your podcast, it got me through early pandemic era, just listening

00:08:27.520 to your back catalog.

00:08:29.160 So I feel a strong parasocial friendship with you both.

00:08:33.920 Love it.

00:08:35.840 But that's also why the way you talk started permeating my podcast, because I was just

00:08:40.800 listening to your three-hour episodes constantly.

00:08:43.440 it's so long and that's it's a lot to get through and people do listen to them in a huge chunk and

00:08:48.180 i'm just like are you guys okay they do the same with my podcast as well people like i just caught

00:08:52.680 up i'm just like you just caught up to five years worth of episodes in two weeks okay okay and then

00:08:59.420 they're mentioning jokes i made and i'm like did i say that in 2021 i guess i don't know but yeah

00:09:04.560 it was your podcast so i think the first time that it permeated through was i i said lads in one

00:09:09.260 episode because i was just like that because i just started thinking like you i said it and

00:09:13.720 immediately it felt uncomfortable i'm like i shouldn't have done that oh i think that's fine

00:09:18.220 but then i started saying herman my pills because i think when you started saying it and i was just

00:09:23.440 like it's just the perfect way to exemplify when a woman is doing something shocking and all of

00:09:28.160 society is just like herman my pills i'm like i can't think of any other way to express that oh

00:09:34.060 Oh, and you also have your own Herman My Pills merch for Double Up. 0.87

00:09:38.960 So I've shared that with my listeners because I would never dare to take your catchphrase

00:09:44.340 and put it on my own merchandise, but you have it there as well.

00:09:47.220 Well, it's there now, so anyone can not grab it.

00:09:49.780 And the third thing that I've said from your podcast on my podcast,

00:09:53.140 and I pronounced it egregiously, is wrongen.

00:09:56.700 He's a wrongen.

00:09:57.760 Oh, a wrongen.

00:09:58.780 Yeah.

00:09:59.080 Wrongen. 1.00

00:09:59.540 Wrongen.

00:10:00.020 mm-hmm and the story we're telling today has numerous of those so it is wall to wall wrong

00:10:06.260 oh my gosh so the other thing that is also important to mention the third thing I said 0.90

00:10:11.100 about you is that you're an Irish person Ireland has been there since I feel like day one vulgar

00:10:16.180 history listeners people have been wanting an Irish episode for such a long time so I know 0.95

00:10:20.900 there's listeners in Ireland and so I'm really happy that I tricked and manipulated you into

00:10:25.960 coming on. Damn it. There was an interior motive here. There were, there are many motives, but the 0.99

00:10:33.620 way that I tricked you into being on the podcast was ages ago, you posted on Instagram. You're

00:10:38.800 like, ask me anything. And I was like, who's your favorite Irish woman from history? Loaded

00:10:43.800 question. No reason. Well, and then you answered Peg Plunkett. And I was like, well, who's that?

00:10:49.920 And I looked her up and I was like, oh no. Oh, I need to do this on the podcast. And I need Karen.

00:10:54.660 how on earth had you heard of her oh my god so it was so many years ago there was a documentary

00:11:01.000 on television one night like really late i was up on my own just watching tv and it was actually

00:11:05.600 on tg caher which is the irish language station in ireland and it was this documentary called

00:11:11.000 which is the irish word for sex workers and it was just about uh sex workers throughout irish

00:11:16.540 history and one episode was about the georgian era in dublin and naturally they talked about

00:11:21.200 Peg Plunkett and I was just like who is this lady I need to know everything because she just sounded

00:11:27.600 so fun and so amazing and it's just the kind of social history that you don't often hear about

00:11:32.780 I feel like right at the time I certainly didn't when it comes to Irish history it's the rising

00:11:36.560 it's the Brits it's all of this you know but like there was just this mad decadent span of time 0.84

00:11:42.080 in Georgian Dublin where people were having fun and she was top of the pile there of people who 0.94

00:11:47.820 were having a good time. Absolutely. Oh, and that's the other thing. I think I'd emailed you

00:11:52.600 about this, but I got a message from, I think it was an Irish American listener who was again,

00:11:57.240 just like pleading for Irish content. But what she said, and I'm curious to know what you think

00:12:02.300 about this, was she feels like the only Irish history that, or women in Irish history that

00:12:06.940 tend to pop up in costume dramas or documentaries or anything is this kind of like poor, you know, 1.00

00:12:12.860 laundry woman mother of 25 um just sort of like maybe she has a job working as a domestic her

00:12:21.560 name is bridget oh yeah and she was like there's other irish women and she would love to know about

00:12:27.920 who they were and i think she requested irish queens but i was like what about peg plunkett

00:12:32.880 oh yeah i'm just but is that like as an irish person like do you feel like that's a stereotype

00:12:39.700 that comes up? Well, it definitely can be. Yeah, I feel like it's getting better now. And there's

00:12:44.200 definitely more of a spotlight being put on the interesting women in Irish history. And even

00:12:48.900 when I say the rising and all that kind of stuff, I feel like it's only in recent years that started

00:12:52.660 to delve into the women's stories, because there were obviously women involved in the War of

00:12:56.520 Independence. And for even when I was being taught about it in school, it's all the men, 0.90

00:13:01.700 it's all the leaders or all the lads, all the lads. And it's just like, where are the women?

00:13:06.380 because they were definitely there there were gay women there were women you know there were

00:13:10.000 more than just straight men involved in all these historical issues and I do feel like

00:13:15.540 over the last couple of years I think it's being improved that there's more of a spotlight being

00:13:19.220 put on the the cool interesting women from Irish history for sure yeah in Ireland I think

00:13:25.180 again a place I dream of visiting I have not been there myself but I think it's also just

00:13:32.760 speaking as a canadian who's ingested mostly american media i like it's sort of like the um

00:13:39.960 the downstairs people in titanic the movie it's kind of like that like irish people even when you

00:13:46.700 watch more vaguely contemporary things like murder she wrote it's always like well we live in these

00:13:51.420 little thatched huts and our our job is we weave blankets and it's kind of like does ireland have

00:13:58.320 electricity that is something that people are surprised by when they come here sometimes that

00:14:03.920 we have electricity and the internet I like I've I recently met some American people in Kerry and

00:14:11.280 they were fascinated by the fact that Ireland had Mexican restaurants they just completely were

00:14:16.620 blown away by this and yeah oh okay yeah I don't know I think there's something there's some I

00:14:23.980 And I don't know, I don't know another country that's like this, but Ireland, to me in like

00:14:28.900 pop culture here, it just seems it's kind of like there's like leprechauns and it's

00:14:33.580 like constantly like this Brigadoon like place, which I know is Scotland, but it's

00:14:38.220 kind of like, it's always like 1700 there somehow, like, like a oldie timey village,

00:14:45.780 but like whole country.

00:14:48.300 Exactly.

00:14:48.580 There are no cities.

00:14:49.520 It's just green fields and tiny villages.

00:14:51.820 Yeah.

00:14:52.100 oh and so this is where so I was reading I presume you read the same book I did Peg Plunkett

00:14:56.560 Memoirs of a Whore by Julie Peakman so what I was working off is I think it's out of print now but

00:15:01.640 it's just a pretty much straight print of the memoirs themselves oh fantastic yeah yeah I was

00:15:07.500 reading I actually bought this after I saw that documentary I like tracked down this book it was

00:15:11.860 edited by a scholar called Mary Lyons um so she like had a little introduction on it and I think

00:15:16.500 she just tried to tidy up the memoirs themselves as much as she could but it's pretty much just

00:15:20.540 all pegs words in this which is great so there might be there might be differences now between

00:15:25.140 what i have and what you have in terms of dates and people and stuff so we can we can figure it

00:15:29.220 out as we go well so the book that i read peg plunkett memoirs of a whore by julie peakman

00:15:33.480 who is a historian and the nice was like oh i need to read every other book julie peakman wrote

00:15:37.280 because she she's a historian of sexuality so she saw these books just about like what kind of sex

00:15:43.240 are people having in georgian england like let's talk about i'm like oh wait a minute like this is

00:15:48.340 a whole new avenue for me but what she does and maybe this is where like our two stories can

00:15:52.360 will complement each other well is she was just like peg's memory of dates and places

00:15:57.400 is not consistent probably not so she did some like digging around to try and figure out like

00:16:05.340 when was she actually probably born like if she was like if she was born when she says then she

00:16:10.320 would have been like 70 years old at this time these men are throwing themselves at her so she's

00:16:14.200 like so probably so there's some fact checking here as well but yeah but just reading this story

00:16:22.340 I was just like oh my goodness so I don't like Dublin like you were just saying Dublin in this

00:16:27.380 Georgian period it was just like it was hopping it was trashy it was I mean Herman my pills is 1.00

00:16:33.720 the only thing I can say big time Herman my pills energy it was a non-stop party and obviously it's

00:16:39.340 it's still the big divide between rich and poor was horrific, but the rich people were having

00:16:44.560 the best time. Oh my gosh. And then there's also, so just so you know, the context of this episode

00:16:50.300 we're recording, it's going to be coming out as part of sort of a series I'm doing about like

00:16:53.960 revolutions of the 18th century, including the American Revolution. And there is so much

00:16:58.980 connection in the story to the American Revolution because all those soldiers were hanging out in

00:17:02.420 Ireland waiting to be deployed to America. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So many soldiers, a lot of 0.73

00:17:09.160 garrisons a lot of that going on in peg story and i mean unfortunately for her or fortunately for

00:17:13.940 her she had a real weakness for a man in uniform oh god she just i kind of as i was making my own 1.00

00:17:19.960 notes for this i kept just thinking peg you are too horny for your own good like this is just 0.97

00:17:24.380 get a grip girl please well that's where i feel like we and please do like when when you notice

00:17:31.000 something that reminds you of sweet valley high in this story like please mention it because it

00:17:35.280 did remind me of jessica wakefield a lot actually oh now that's the saga they couldn't write because

00:17:40.680 it would just you know herman my bills all the readers but the way that every new man who peg

00:17:47.400 meets is i would i imagine her being like and it was the most handsome man she'd ever seen

00:17:51.580 yeah this is real of this time that last time that didn't mean anything this is the one

00:17:56.080 what i've been trying to just i'm so excited to record this like i've i've read the book and i've

00:17:59.840 just been telling this is why i started the podcast because so i don't just like drive all

00:18:03.580 my friends crazy telling them these stories but I was just like you don't understand you don't

00:18:06.800 understand do you know what she just did next it's like so I was trying to describe who she is Peg

00:18:10.960 Plunkett and I see her as kind of like um Lola Montez who I think Ireland has claimed because

00:18:18.340 she's born in Sligo she's ours come on yeah no I think like was she born to English parents yes

00:18:24.220 but she was in Ireland and I think her vibe is Irish she's a big chancer and that's very Irish

00:18:30.900 of her yeah I'm sure she had the big head big head big hair very Irish yeah exactly exactly 0.61

00:18:37.920 but yeah so I was like it's like Lola Montez but mixed with like Lydia Bennett from Pride and

00:18:42.780 Prejudice but okay if Mr. Darcy hadn't written that letter yes okay yes I like that like if

00:18:51.860 she ran off with Wickham and then just like what would she do next and that's my favorite Lydia

00:18:55.440 Bennett is my favorite of that like I mean you know if you know my podcast anyone who like I 0.99

00:19:00.620 love a scandalous trashy slutty woman and peg pocket i'm just like jesus christ this is like 1.00

00:19:06.220 non-stop non-stop she's just constantly having fun like she's just the best party girl i love her 0.98

00:19:14.640 oh my goodness okay okay so like i have notes but i'll just kind of go through which is basically

00:19:21.200 i could have written 25 pages of notes but i just sort of was like i tried to get like

00:19:26.740 dates and places and that's like every time there's a place name i would love for you to

00:19:30.580 explain to me what that place is like now and what you know about it because i'm just like

00:19:34.400 never heard of this place but okay sure sure so julie peakman who did some forensic work

00:19:41.560 on pegs can we tell i i hope this won't no i i think people need to understand that the memoirs

00:19:48.400 you read and why she wrote them was so and this is part of what i was i've been terrorizing my

00:19:57.000 friends telling them facts and information about is that later in life peg plunkett needed money

00:20:01.980 so she was like i'll write my memoirs um because it'll make me money but it'll extra make me money 1.00

00:20:08.260 because i'm gonna blackmail all the men who visited my brothel and i'll say i'll put them

00:20:14.120 in the book unless they pay me money so they're like a blackmail slash money making strategy

00:20:19.780 yeah and then there are three volumes there was meant to be a fourth the fourth one was where

00:20:27.020 she was actually just going to list the names of everyone who still owed her money and hadn't paid

00:20:30.560 her yet um and apparently that was just going to be the most scandalous of all of them because it

00:20:34.360 was literally just going to name the names and be like this guy and this guy and this guy yeah 0.96

00:20:37.840 well and that's part of what julie peakman did in her book because some of them she just kind of

00:20:41.740 she's like oh it's lord so-and-so and julie peakman is like hmm i wonder who that was and

00:20:45.480 so she sort of like figured out she figured some of the names that's where i'm gonna bring in some

00:20:48.500 context for you oh i love it okay great but what julie peakman figured out is probably

00:20:53.880 peg was born around 1742 that's what we're looking at see i have 1727 but again i'm working off

00:21:01.700 no peg is telling exactly exactly and that's like there's a whole part in the book where

00:21:06.120 Julie Peekman was like, OK, if that's true, her age in all of these situations is interesting, but unexpected.

00:21:16.260 Yeah.

00:21:17.360 So can you I mean, we're here to talk about Pig Plunkett, but as an Irish person, I assume you just know these things off the top of your head. 0.78

00:21:25.760 So Ireland at this point is the British are there. 0.85

00:21:30.320 they like Ireland was the first British um genocidal colonization project yes yeah fun yeah

00:21:37.700 yeah yeah um Ireland is very much under the rule of England at this point um there is a parliament

00:21:47.480 in Ireland in Dublin like so there are this is why Dublin is doing so well at the time because

00:21:51.520 there are MPs around um I mean all of the the politicians are either English or they're just 0.99

00:21:56.600 landed gentry. So they're the Protestant descendancy. So they're Anglo-Irish, I would 1.00

00:22:01.440 say. But yeah, so there is a lot of prosperity in Dublin at this time because there's all this

00:22:05.820 activity, there's all this trade. And the fact that it is like a political hub as well, it's just

00:22:11.100 like Dublin's doing great. And it's the English Protestants are the minority, but they're who's 0.94

00:22:19.160 in charge of everything. Exactly. So there's penal laws here at this time as well. So even though 1.00

00:22:23.640 it's majority catholic country the catholics have very few rights like they they can't obviously 1.00

00:22:28.940 they can't vote or anything like that but they also they can't um own land or it's like there's 0.99

00:22:33.960 all kind of this like tricky land inheritance stuff as well where like they have to i think

00:22:38.420 i have that written down here it was something like um did you it was something about like you

00:22:45.120 couldn't catholic people couldn't then have their children inherit the land something like it was

00:22:50.080 like if they were to inherit it has to be spread between everyone in the family rather than like

00:22:54.320 say one son inheriting the farm he'd have to like convert to protestantism to be the one in charge 0.95

00:22:58.760 of the farm so it's all kind of set up to dilute any kind of power any catholics would have because 0.96

00:23:03.400 over the generations then like the farm is just being lost to all these different people and 0.97

00:23:07.640 probably you know packed up and sold off in little bits and pieces so in terms of land ownership it

00:23:13.320 was probably rare enough for a catholic family to own their own land and to to be in any kind of

00:23:19.040 real position of power and now for a quick advertising break the war is over and both

00:23:26.520 sides lost kingdoms were reduced to cinders and armies scattered like bones in the dust

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00:25:47.840 let's get into it and we're back and her family was catholic so this is all applying to them so

00:25:56.820 her father matthew plunkett who you know what like all due respect to people with major mental 0.97

00:26:03.860 health issues but he was useless oh my god so useless it's like yeah come on dude seriously 0.95

00:26:10.480 he's just flopping around doing nothing so matthew plunkett um so her mother who i only know is miss 0.96

00:26:18.520 a o'reilly don't know what a stands for wait what's an irish name that starts with a what's

00:26:23.720 that one that's like a-o-i-f-e ifa ifa okay her mother ifa so her mother was a distant relation

00:26:34.980 of the earl of kevin so there's like some connection with aristocracy like they're not

00:26:38.940 dirt poor this family no no no like it's probably a tenuous enough connection but like they're

00:26:43.520 they're doing pretty well for for a catholic family they're they're in a nice position for

00:26:47.660 sure um i do just want to not shout out but just like i mentioned a minute ago that um the british

00:26:55.300 based the colonization of america oh no i didn't say that so ireland was the first place that the

00:27:00.540 british were like oh my god this place is full of savages let's genocide them all and then like

00:27:04.920 move our people in and then that worked so well for them but they're like let's do the same thing 0.67

00:27:09.600 in america so like the same people sometimes um so that's uh so in the process of that

00:27:17.100 like 1742 like british people are colonizing america american revolution hasn't happened

00:27:23.700 but so ireland was kind of the first place that they they mastered these techniques um peg's

00:27:29.480 mother Aoife. We've just decided. Aoife Plunkett. She birthed 22 children. Yeah. Poor lady. Just

00:27:39.600 Matthew, get off that woman. Seriously. Matthew could do one thing and that was impregnate his 0.94

00:27:45.780 wife. Yeah. He's good at one thing, putting babies in that lady. Oh my gosh. 22 children. But that's

00:27:51.580 also, I feel like that's the stereotype of like the, and this is like, so stereotypes are often

00:27:56.080 come from actual things this is a thing yeah yeah yeah it is just one of those things unfortunately

00:28:00.860 yeah 22 is too many pregnancies but yeah um I think only eight of the children were the ones

00:28:07.860 that survived then so it's it's a tough life for for Aoife Aoife Plunkett yeah but that's the 0.78

00:28:14.140 stereotype of the like Irish ma'am who is just constantly pregnant too many and it's like a

00:28:19.740 catholic thing like there's no birth control but there's also you're not supposed to want to have

00:28:26.040 birth control or something like that like which we see with peg later on i was talking to my friend

00:28:32.140 about this story and she's like what does she do for birth control i was like well she had a child

00:28:35.280 every year during her years as a sex worker pretty much constantly pregnant irish catholic

00:28:40.000 so anyway so what this is so they were living in uh kilo kilo yeah it's called killer now but the

00:28:51.400 way it's spelled there in like whatever that old spelling is would be more like kiloc okay just to

00:28:55.660 keep it real confusing we can call it killer i think is probably the handiest thing killer and

00:28:59.400 what do you know about that now it's is it like a lovely rural area i don't know i'm sure it is i

00:29:05.920 I have to say, I don't, I had never actually heard of a kilak or a kila in Westmeath.

00:29:11.720 My Westmeath knowledge probably isn't great.

00:29:14.700 Like Westmeath is in the Midlands.

00:29:16.480 I do have an aunt who lives in Mullingar, which is the bigger kind of town in Westmeath.

00:29:21.200 And it's very nice there.

00:29:23.660 I imagine it's very, very lovely.

00:29:25.240 And Peg, for the most part, because her family had some money.

00:29:30.380 So she was protected from the harsh realities of life outside the country estate,

00:29:34.200 such as the widespread starvation caused by Britain that was happening at this time.

00:29:40.480 And that wasn't even the Great Famine.

00:29:42.440 That was just another famine that happened earlier in history.

00:29:45.320 No, I thought I was like, oh, I've heard of this.

00:29:47.220 I know about the, oh, different famine.

00:29:49.300 Bonus famine.

00:29:50.360 Yeah.

00:29:51.060 Yeah.

00:29:51.620 So this is part of why a lot of Irish people were heading to America already at this time, 0.88

00:29:56.860 like pre-Titanic era. 0.94

00:29:59.880 Just boats full of dancing people.

00:30:01.660 Just dancing our way across the Atlantic.

00:30:04.200 my understanding of Irish immigration, I do want to say like you were an Irish person.

00:30:11.580 So, you know, I'm not, I have nothing but love and adoration for Ireland. And I do have a theory

00:30:17.380 that I am at least part Irish. So I feel some connection with this as well. My, my connection

00:30:23.280 with, I'm mostly Scottish. I'm like 97% Scottish. But the one branch of my family, we're from like

00:30:32.180 the highlands in scotland which is an area where they spoke like celtic and they would go back and

00:30:36.860 forth with ireland a lot like they were like we don't recognize land borders like this we're all

00:30:41.380 celtic speaking people here's ireland here's here's the highlands we just go back and forth

00:30:44.600 and i'm like something happened there because i've got a real big head like

00:30:48.560 like i need to buy men's size x large hats like i have the head of column mini

00:30:57.800 proportionate to the rest of me so when I heard you on your podcast talking about big Irish heads

00:31:03.340 I was like yeah that's me that explains it oh yeah we do love Scotland and yeah there's a lot

00:31:10.300 of similarities between like Scots Gaelic and Gaelge which we'd have here um like it's there

00:31:15.000 there's a lot of similarities between those two languages for sure so that would make sense that

00:31:18.200 there'd be a lot of crossing over and intermingling and whatnot I like to think so so I just wanted to

00:31:22.720 say like we're here talking about Ireland so when I say when I make a joke about Ireland please know

00:31:26.760 I am as Irish as Io Edebiri, at least. You know what? I'll allow it.

00:31:32.980 But actually, that's interesting you mentioned. So like the language of it all, because no one

00:31:37.500 in this story has an Irish name. Everyone has an English British. Yeah. Yeah. And again,

00:31:42.940 that's also to do with, I guess, well, the people that we're dealing with are a lot of

00:31:46.520 the Protestant descendancy and the Irish language was being routinely stamped out at this point.

00:31:52.000 so that would go with the names too you know and because of you know Catholicism being oppressed

00:31:57.240 too it's like even like mass and being taught all that kind of education was all being done

00:32:01.280 in secret so like the hedge schools were all probably around that time as well so you just

00:32:04.780 there was no formal obvious kind of like you know we're being super Irish here and it was just too

00:32:09.960 Catholic all of it I think having the Irish language so it was all just being kind of 0.97

00:32:13.260 swept away as best they could. Except for her mother whose name was Aoife. Who we've just 1.00

00:32:17.660 decided she was probably Anne let's be honest okay so Peg as a child she was provided with 0.93

00:32:27.640 a good education because again like she's not a poor person no she learned music and dance which

00:32:34.020 would come up later in her later career this is a quote from Peg's book as quoted from the book

00:32:39.140 that I read. Life gilded on in the paths of innocence and content. Oh. And then, and then

00:32:46.960 Aoife died of spotted fever. Oh, then it all went so horrifically wrong. Yeah.

00:32:54.500 She was the glue holding everything together, clearly. She truly was. Like, without her,

00:33:00.300 everything just goes tits up so quickly. Like, it's a bad time immediately. So the kids are all

00:33:06.640 shipped off elsewhere well first initially just so that they wouldn't catch her disease except

00:33:10.660 for one brother yes one brother stayed behind i think it was the eldest brother at the time

00:33:14.800 had stayed back to look after the mother but then he also caught the disease and passed away too so

00:33:19.720 unfortunately the second oldest brother christopher 1.00

00:33:22.420 all-time villain oh my god right what a piece of shit i just oh this fucking guy 1.00

00:33:31.180 Christopher, would you say he's a rongan or something worse than that? 1.00

00:33:36.520 He's, he's even worse than a rongan, I feel like. 1.00

00:33:39.160 There can be an element of mischief to a rongan, whereas this guy, he's just, he's a full-on piece of shit. 1.00

00:33:44.760 He's just trash. He's trash. 1.00

00:33:46.160 In the, in the context of Sweet Valley High, he's like John Pfeiffer. 1.00

00:33:49.180 He's just, boo, Christopher.

00:33:51.540 Big time boo. Immediate boo.

00:33:54.600 So what happened is the kids were shipped off to various places.

00:33:57.160 the mother died the oldest brother died and the father was just like peace out I will not do

00:34:02.620 anything for the rest of this story even though I will live for several more decades he lives for

00:34:07.560 so much longer and he's just so pointless like he basically just hands everything over to Christopher

00:34:13.660 who is now the eldest son um Christopher absolute monster so the father just like takes a step back

00:34:20.080 and is like nope sorry dad's too depressed I'm not dealing with any of this you can all figure

00:34:24.300 it out yourselves it's it's terrible matthew impregnated ifa 22 times that he can do

00:34:32.600 but it's like take some responsibility for these children you fathered 0.93

00:34:38.500 yeah so christopher is put in charge and he was shitty in every imaginable way he squandered all 0.95

00:34:46.180 the family's money um he was miserly about spending money on his siblings he physically 0.90

00:34:52.340 and emotionally abused all of them all of them like he starves them it's it's horrific like yeah

00:34:58.360 he's really really the worst christopher is just i've been re-watching i claudius recently

00:35:03.440 and christopher is he's like the worst of the roman emperors yeah it is the power he has the

00:35:10.860 power and now he's just a complete tyrant like yeah yeah yeah and all the fact that he squandered

00:35:16.420 the money and he wouldn't spend money on anything where they did have money but he was just like no

00:35:20.880 i'm not going to like feed you yeah oh it's terrible so understandably the siblings all

00:35:27.480 try to escape two of the older girls just went away and got married one of them became mrs brady

00:35:32.520 the other one i think becomes mrs smith um because that's kind of the route out for a young woman 0.78

00:35:38.000 this is the escape yeah yeah but then oh no so the one sister who comes mrs mrs brady

00:35:43.300 mr brady asked i don't know her name what's an what's an irish name yeah the sister is

00:35:48.040 well again see that's Irish but then you see none of these girls well Margaret is very Irish I

00:35:54.180 suppose actually so there probably might have been a Bridget in the mix in fairness

00:35:56.840 that's Bridget do you know there's a podcast called Bad Bridgets that's just about I have

00:36:01.780 heard of that yeah there's a book as well Bridget is just like that's just the name of all the Irish

00:36:06.500 women who are all domestic servants in America yeah it would have been a very popular name at

00:36:11.240 the time well that's perfect so Bridget Brady her sister um so she was like hey Mr Brady 0.53

00:36:18.000 wants to marry me. And Christopher is like, no, because I have to give a dowry and that's money

00:36:21.920 and I'm Scrooge. I'm the Irish Scrooge. Just awful. Like if anything, you'd think he'll just

00:36:27.620 have to make this one off payment and then he doesn't have to deal with her or look after her

00:36:31.820 or beat her or starve her. You know, it's saving him energy, you'd think. But no, he's just he

00:36:37.580 just doesn't want anyone to be happy. Yeah. But luckily, I mean, Bridget had she had some wits

00:36:42.860 about her and so she went off to super secret sexily get married to mr brady went off to

00:36:48.520 dublin and they're like peg you want to come with and peg is like god yes please yes get me out of

00:36:53.380 here yes so she's now 15 years old in the big city of dublin yes which is still a big city um but

00:37:01.920 then like going from like kill off to dublin like i don't think i don't know she's ever left before

00:37:08.480 like i think it would be you know like you know like in the movies of like the young actress

00:37:12.360 arriving in New York City you know she's just like oh big time yeah and Dublin was it was like

00:37:17.680 for the time it was it was the second biggest city I believe in like the English UK Great Britain

00:37:24.640 Empire whatever kind of thing they had going on it was like the second city the next one down from

00:37:29.980 London like it was big in turn for the time yeah and is that because of like ships like ports like

00:37:36.640 trade it was like that it was partly to do with trade I would say yeah yeah and yeah there was

00:37:41.300 a lot of like yeah textile trade and all that kind of stuff too so peg um she attracted the

00:37:46.740 attention of many gentlemen but obviously christopher wouldn't approve of any of these

00:37:50.880 matches because boo um because the worst it's not even like he has a plan i guess his plan is just 0.92

00:38:00.620 like if they all die all have more money so let's just kill them all it's really weird i like i i 0.73

00:38:08.460 don't understand him like at all yeah it's very strange Christopher so anyway he summoned her 0.97

00:38:14.440 home he treated her horribly I don't know if this is oh no no in a bit he no there's a detail but

00:38:23.980 that's a later visit with Christopher okay so she leaves almost right away to go stay with her other

00:38:30.040 sister um Susan Susan Smith um in Tullamore. Tullamore yes in County Offaly. Yeah tell me

00:38:39.380 about Tullamore. Tullamore honestly all I know about Tullamore is well Tullamore Dew is a whiskey

00:38:44.880 that's made there um so there's a big distillery and I think actually the sister was married to a

00:38:49.680 guy who set up a brewery in Tullamore so it was probably a lot of like boozy brewery distillery

00:38:55.860 stuff going on in Tullamore at the time. I can't imagine it was that big of a town at the time

00:38:59.440 but Offaly's nice a lot of bogs there it's very scenic there's a garrison there um which was great

00:39:05.640 for Peg because she loves men in uniform she sure does yeah literally there's soldiers to flirt with

00:39:13.320 so it's like whatever kind of a terrible kind of spirits she was in by the time she got to

00:39:17.960 Tullamore once she was there she was like oh I'm back baby this is great so she's great um anyway

00:39:25.740 and so this just is a detail so the reason like she needed to find a husband because that was her

00:39:30.880 way away from christopher because she was too wealthy to become a domestic servant or to become

00:39:36.120 a governess yeah and she does say herself at one point i think in the memoir is that like people

00:39:40.820 would have said to her at certain times in her life why don't you just go into service and she's

00:39:43.920 like with what skills like i haven't i've never i don't know how to do anything yeah so she really

00:39:50.400 her only option at this point was to find a man to marry but christopher was not letting that

00:39:56.260 happen um she was proposed to by an old grocer i don't know if you noted her description of him

00:40:04.660 uh mostly that he's ugly and old i feel like the thing that annoys her the most is that he wears a

00:40:10.620 wig which i just think is so funny he's like that's the worst thing of all is that he wears a wig 0.63

00:40:15.780 yeah she preferred the shorter hair of a soldier imagine well I feel like this is in the time

00:40:21.940 period where they would they wouldn't have short hair necessarily but like you know like the little

00:40:25.260 ponytail I think that would be exactly yeah yeah and it is funny because I guess when you see

00:40:29.400 like period dramas and stuff set in this kind of era and you look at the guys in their big curly

00:40:33.900 periwigs and you're kind of like god did anyone actually find that attractive and now we have

00:40:37.720 evidence that no they didn't no girls were not into that she was not yeah so this old grocer 0.99

00:40:45.200 wanted to marry her she turned him down and instead she ran off with this other guy some

00:40:51.480 hot guy man of business unnamed man of business that's what i've written down as a man of business

00:40:57.820 that's how he's described yeah he works he worked he used to work for this woman's husband the

00:41:02.980 husband died so he now lives with this widow mrs shannon um and conducts her business but as peg

00:41:09.420 puts it in her memoirs so the widow shannon had made him master of the business and of herself

00:41:13.900 yeah so she's just the i'm gonna describe as polyamory of sure everybody

00:41:25.080 in this story like people you're married but you have a lover or you're not married but you live

00:41:31.340 with someone and then also you have a lover and your lover has a lover and it's just like oh and 0.66

00:41:34.860 that lover is lover that other lover just everyone's just fucking it's very chill yeah

00:41:39.360 that's the vibe that's the vibe she has some some quotes that i you might have saved as well later 0.83

00:41:44.340 on where she's just like yeah free love it's cool whatever yeah yeah she's very yeah it's kind of

00:41:50.240 sex positive in that respect and good for her i will say the biographer julie peakman is a bit

00:41:56.100 judgmental at times with pegs okay poor judgment where it's like she's 15 and she's horny so like

00:42:03.200 excited she's so horny she is but i mean she's been so like not necessarily sheltered but just

00:42:12.100 like living in this little country house and suddenly she's surrounded by handsome men like 0.99

00:42:16.340 this is it and like if she goes home all she has there waiting for is a fucking horrible time with 0.98

00:42:21.500 christopher who's just gonna beat her up for no reason so it's like of course she's out here 0.95

00:42:24.980 flirting and like get me out of here lads someone help me out yeah so she um she took off with this

00:42:32.080 guy the man of business they went to Kilbegin have you heard of that is that I have not heard

00:42:37.820 of Kilbegin um I did I looked it up and I just saw that it's kind of close to the border between

00:42:42.220 Offaly and Westmeath so I think they were heading for Mullingar was the plan but they had to stop

00:42:46.340 to rest the horses at one point Kilbegin has a real um hobbit Lord of the Rings place name look

00:42:53.640 to it yeah well kill is a very common prefix for towns um in Ireland because the Irish for church

00:42:59.880 at the time would have been kill like c-i-l-l okay it's all anglicized so it's just like church

00:43:04.060 of whatever is just that's the townland um but yeah kill pegan yeah i hadn't actually heard of

00:43:10.220 it i have to say but yeah no but so explain what happens they had to stop there to rest the horses

00:43:14.500 and then literally like 15 minutes after they get to the inn i think uh it's mr smith the the

00:43:21.640 brother-in-law and two friends of his like kick the door down and come in to like drag peg home

00:43:26.560 they've got pistols they're threatening to shoot her if she doesn't come with them it sounds super 0.99

00:43:30.380 dramatic and um mr business just jumps out the fucking window as soon as they turn up so he's 0.99

00:43:35.840 absolutely no help whatsoever at the first sign of any kind of struggle he's like nope see you peg 0.95

00:43:40.640 gone yeah and then they take her back to christopher oh god and this is the point i was 0.74

00:43:47.560 thinking about this is where christopher beats her up so badly she vomited blood and it took her

00:43:52.140 three months of bed rest to recover yeah it's horrific yeah so when we say like christopher

00:43:58.020 boo it's like boo honestly boo like yuck i hate that guy so much oh my god christopher

00:44:06.780 like all-time villain on this podcast for sure truly a completely irredeemable character like 0.67

00:44:12.440 just the worst yeah just for no reason like he's like a cartoon villain he just like is evil

00:44:18.180 He truly is.

00:44:19.140 Yeah, like literally got the bit of power and just went completely balls out evil. 0.99

00:44:23.040 He's just, I hate him. 0.99

00:44:24.420 Yeah, he's terrible. 0.58

00:44:25.200 So as it was described in this biography, as soon as she could stand, she hired a carriage

00:44:31.700 and left.

00:44:33.320 Yes. 0.52

00:44:33.580 Good for you, Peg. 1.00

00:44:34.660 Get the hell out of there. 1.00

00:44:36.260 Yeah. 0.99

00:44:36.560 And she went back to Dublin to hang out with Bridget.

00:44:39.720 And that's where she met Mr. Dardis.

00:44:43.000 Oh, Mr. Dardis.

00:44:44.140 Oh, yes.

00:44:44.620 uh yeah so he's a friend of another brother-in-law so this is Brady I think yeah this is the Brady's

00:44:51.260 yeah yeah so he yeah Dardis is close friend of the brother-in-law and yeah of course like as

00:44:56.020 soon as she's kind of she's still not fully well because it was literally as soon as she could sit

00:44:59.880 upright she was gone so she still has a bit of recovery time ahead of her so he was really nice

00:45:03.960 to her while she was getting better and she was vulnerable and he was lovely but of course as soon

00:45:08.580 as she's well enough to do more than sit up uh they're sneaking around which is what I was

00:45:13.540 described in this one as like um he acted the role of the gentleman suitor by day

00:45:18.640 but by night they were sneaking around um definitely and then but he's the sort of guy

00:45:26.400 who and this did happen in one of the sweet valley sagas the um fowler's saga to one of

00:45:33.340 lila fowler's ancestors where he claimed that he was going to marry her so they might as well have

00:45:39.400 sex uh-huh that old trick and then he did not marry her yeah god there is a great line from

00:45:47.100 peg though where she says i think at the point that they did start sleeping together where she 0.78

00:45:50.600 says how could i call him seducer when i met the seduction halfway because again too horny for her 1.00

00:45:55.020 own good yeah yeah so she became pregnant like you know she's from fertile stock get used to this 0.98

00:46:03.440 so mr dardis who like he sucks i i don't think he's he's not cool enough to be a rongan he's 0.97

00:46:14.760 he's just no no he's just lame it's just oh get out of here dardis yeah because yeah she's pregnant 0.99

00:46:20.320 and he's just like yeah actually i can't marry you because you know it'll ruin my reputation 0.90

00:46:24.320 and i can't do that and lose my inheritance no absolutely not yeah so then he what he does is

00:46:30.680 He arranges for Peg to go live in lodgings until she had the baby.

00:46:35.100 Now, there was some stuff because there was some context in the book I read.

00:46:37.740 It was talking about like the foundlings hospital and stuff.

00:46:40.060 So like women having babies and then dropping them off was like a thing that happened all

00:46:45.260 the time to the point that there was some sort of revolving door type situation where

00:46:50.640 you could just put the baby in and they would just like, oh, a baby.

00:46:53.660 Like, yeah, yeah.

00:46:54.380 There was a church where you could do that.

00:46:55.800 St. Odin's Church, I think you could.

00:46:57.260 um yeah there was like a little bit that you could put a baby in and it would just spin around

00:47:01.360 to put the baby inside the church and it's like there you go there's your baby now

00:47:05.160 like this happened enough that they invented the turntable yeah exactly yeah it's like a lazy susan

00:47:12.220 for babies yeah so i i presume that was kind of the plan it's like okay just go off there have

00:47:16.780 the baby put it in the turntable and then we'll resume but it turns out that the place that where 0.57

00:47:22.780 he set her up was owned it was it wasn't a brothel but it was owned by like all the other tenants 1.00

00:47:28.660 were also were sex workers or something like that yeah I guess it was a house where yeah the lady 1.00

00:47:33.380 that ran the house maybe didn't have the best reputation or it was just that she was known for 1.00

00:47:37.440 boarding sex workers so maybe it was just the fact that she didn't have a problem with someone 0.99

00:47:40.820 being a sex worker staying in her house but it wasn't a brothel necessarily it was just yeah I

00:47:45.540 guess of as houses go it wouldn't have had the you know most sparkly of reputations well and

00:47:52.660 as evidenced by when her brother-in-law mr smith tracked down the coachman who brought her there

00:47:57.920 um the detail was like well he knew that it was a left-handed coachman so he's looking around

00:48:02.160 this guy's sherlocking around the place how many left-handed coachmen are there in dublin and i'll

00:48:08.060 talk to all of them so he he found it down and he did the legwork but then he was like oh no she's

00:48:13.160 living there yeah you're left for dead like she had fallen too far for him to save by living in

00:48:20.220 this building yeah rude like listeners please know like this is this podcast is going on for quite a

00:48:28.140 while and peg thrives for almost all of it this is just backstory like yeah actually we're so early

00:48:35.680 in her story she's still what 15 16 i don't know yeah like there's tragic things happening to her

00:48:39.800 but this is not what's that book test of the d'urbervilles it's not it's not just like things

00:48:45.040 are bad and then she no things get great but so just just hold on so we're gonna leave you there

00:48:55.460 bit of a cliffhanger because this is a long story and want us to all be able to sit with and

00:49:01.800 appreciate all of the bananas things that we've been hearing about next week peg plunkett part

00:49:06.120 two is that going to be the last part no it's not because this story is epic it's such a saga

00:49:12.920 And I had so much fun talking with Karen about it.

00:49:15.620 And if you want to hear me and Karen talking some more about other things, talking about

00:49:19.160 Sweet Valley High, talking about the strange connection that I've forged between her podcast

00:49:25.160 and my podcast, or just getting some more information about Irish history, I did record

00:49:30.140 an episode of The After Show, which is a Patreon-exclusive spin-off podcast to Vulgar

00:49:37.120 History.

00:49:37.560 So if you join the Patreon for at least $5 or more a month, you can get access to bonus

00:49:42.540 me like we taught we have a lot to say and i diverted a bunch of it to the after show just

00:49:47.340 so we could try and stay on topic as much as possible for two talkative people like her and me

00:49:51.420 here in the main feed of vulgar history yeah so next week more peg you're like i can't even like

00:49:58.020 prepare yourself this is like it's such a saga and i'm so delighted to be sharing this on the

00:50:03.000 podcast because this is just the sort of story i love to find and it's the sort of story i only

00:50:08.300 find when somebody else mentions it to me because like these people exist they're out there in the

00:50:12.960 history of so many countries these bananas people who led these like fantastically interesting lives 0.98

00:50:20.140 and you know more people need to know about them and now a bunch more people know about 1.00

00:50:24.200 Peg Plunkett because of this episode so yeah stay tuned next week for that and then stay tuned

00:50:30.180 whenever this the Peg Plunkett saga ends for the reveal of the new Karen Moynihan

00:50:36.460 vulgar history merch design inspired by peg plunkett and if you want to keep up with me

00:50:42.620 in the podcast until then i mentioned the patreon so i'm posting more stuff there so you can join

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00:50:53.320 ad free access to all the episodes so if you're just like i can't wait to hear what happens with

00:50:57.240 peg like the episodes i they drop there like four days early so you know a bit of a shorter wait for

00:51:03.180 you. And then if you pledge at least $5 or more a month on Patreon, you get access to the bonus

00:51:07.380 episodes. So that is the after show, like the extra bonus thing I recorded with Karen, as well

00:51:13.100 as we do episodes of Vulgar Peace Theater, where I talk about costume dramas. And also there's a

00:51:19.100 series called So This Asshole, where I talk about gross men from history. You can also join the 0.97

00:51:23.620 Patreon for free for $0. And I post stuff there like a couple times a week is what I'm working

00:51:29.480 on doing is just kind of like, you know, historical stuff that's in the news or just some value added

00:51:36.140 content about the various episodes. So you can just join the Patreon for free just to keep up

00:51:40.120 with me. And one of the reasons I'm doing that, like I'm posting more free stuff on Patreon too,

00:51:44.220 is just because I tend to post a lot of my stuff on Instagram, which is a great way. And that's

00:51:49.720 how I've connected with so many people and just the algorithms are not loving me lately. A lot

00:51:54.520 of the stuff I post there is not being seen by as many people as are following me there and who want

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00:52:03.180 So anyway, patreon.com slash Anne Foster Writer. And we have a glorious brand partner, Common Era

00:52:10.340 Jewelry. If Peg Plunkett was around now or if Common Era Jewelry was around then, I think she

00:52:15.860 would have been all about these designs because they're all about women from history, often

00:52:20.260 scandalous women from history. So Common Era Jewelry is small business. It's a woman-owned

00:52:26.620 business and they make beautiful jewelry designs that are inspired by women from history as well

00:52:32.540 as women from mythology. There's not a Peg Plunkett design. I'm going to say she's not

00:52:37.240 famous enough for that yet, but there is an Anne Boleyn design. There's other people who are

00:52:42.740 seen as scandalous from history, like Cleopatra, Agrippina, Boudicca, people who are seen as

00:52:48.120 scandalous from mythology, like Clytemnestra, Aphrodite, Medusa. And so she has a whole

00:52:54.400 collection called difficult women, which is just kind of a women who had bad reputations from 0.83

00:52:58.920 history. And basically it's beautiful. I love these pieces and vulgar history listeners can

00:53:04.720 get 15% off your purchase at common era by going to common era.com slash vulgar or using code vulgar

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00:53:44.220 like strange inside jokes that no one else seeing them would understand. Or if someone does see

00:53:50.920 them and understand, then you made a new friend because that's another member of the Tito Brigade,

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00:54:00.480 whatever, ideas of scandalous people to talk about on the show because I will drop everything 1.00

00:54:06.920 when I find out about a trashy, slutty woman from history. It is my weakness. A couple seasons ago, 1.00

00:54:16.100 everything was upended first when I heard about Hortense Mancini then I heard about Lola Montez

00:54:21.400 like I was already working on this Marie Antoinette season and then I'm just like Peg Plunkett is 1.00

00:54:24.920 going to be in this season god damn it and it turns out that she tight she connects with so

00:54:28.860 many things so well but like that's my weakness so let me know if you know about somebody like

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Vulgar History - July 03, 2024

Peg Plunkett, Ireland's Most Successful Whore, part one

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