Vulgar History - January 10, 2024


Women Behaving Badly, part 5: Mary Toft Pulled (Several) Rabbits (Out Of Her Vagina ) (Rerelease)

Women Behaving Badly, part 4: Elizabeth Báthory Bathed In Blood (Not Really) (Rerelease) Women Behaving Badly, part 6: The Super Secret Spy (Rerelease)

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00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to vulgar history of feminist women's history comedy podcast
00:00:16.640 my name is ann foster and we're just revisiting uh episodes from season one of the podcast
00:00:22.620 the audio has been cleared up because you know a lot has changed since i recorded these things
00:00:28.240 These were recorded in like October, 2019, you know, it was pre COVID world as this podcast
00:00:35.920 is still just, I was figuring out what it was going to be like, although I do think,
00:00:40.020 and when I've been revisiting these episodes, I'm like, oh yeah, that's just how I would
00:00:42.580 say that now.
00:00:43.160 Like, I think the tone is pretty consistent.
00:00:45.180 The thing that's changed the most is the audio quality because I started working with Christina
00:00:49.800 Lumagi, who is frankly a wizard, a magician with editing.
00:00:53.520 Do you need a podcast editor?
00:00:54.840 Reach out to her.
00:00:56.120 Anyway, so Christina is clearing up the audio to make it more easy to listen to.
00:01:00.900 I've heard from some people that the audio quality of the first season, it's kind of
00:01:05.400 like you got, maybe you have to listen to it with your ear pods in, like you can't play
00:01:08.700 it in the car, like it's a bit cloudy.
00:01:10.380 So anyway, I hope that this audio is better.
00:01:12.580 There's also an opportunity to revisit where I have follow-up information about the content
00:01:17.700 in these episodes.
00:01:18.820 So first of all, this is the Mary Toft episode.
00:01:21.460 this is one that the story of mary toft seems to pop up every like few weeks on tiktok somebody's 0.53
00:01:27.320 just like did you know about this fucked up story and and i know that this happens because someone 0.90
00:01:31.460 from the tits of brigade is always there commenting being like vulgar history and they tag me to be 0.97
00:01:35.380 like you should listen to this so this is like in the last whatever 140 episodes of vulgar history 0.98
00:01:42.420 this is still to me the most fucked up story and i feel so bad for mary toft who's not a 0.95
00:01:49.340 scandalous person. She just like got suckered into this by these dirtbags around her. Not fun 0.99
00:01:54.080 dirtbags, just shitty dirtbags, ever in the dirtbag. This is the first episode where I said 0.98
00:01:58.080 messy bitch living for drama about Nathaniel St. Andre. So that's launched a vulgar history 1.00
00:02:05.120 catchphrase. But also I wanted to say before we get into this newly re-edited, Mary Toff,
00:02:10.700 bracket Anne's version, is so after the episode came out, I got a really thoughtful message from
00:02:16.980 a listener named Minty that I wanted to read to you because during this episode, you're going to 0.91
00:02:21.600 hear just sort of to contextualize what the fuck was up. Like why did Mary Toft's in-laws think 0.95
00:02:27.260 like we're going to pretend she's giving birth to rabbit parts? Like the question that people
00:02:32.420 are always asking on TikTok is like, why would they, how would that make them money? And the
00:02:35.900 whole reason is because this was an era of like freak shows and like weird medical stuff. And so
00:02:40.980 in the context of that, in the podcast, I'm talking about the case of this young boy called
00:02:45.500 Peter, who I described in the episode as being, quote, severely autistic as sort of an explanation
00:02:52.340 for kind of maybe what was going on with him. He was described in the times like feral,
00:02:55.960 like the wolf boy or whatever. And then I got this message from Minty that I really appreciate. And
00:03:00.620 I always appreciate when I get feedback from you so I can do better. So here's what she says.
00:03:07.360 So Minty just wanted to let me know that there is no such thing as, quote, severely autistic.
00:03:12.960 Autism is not a disease that one can have severely or mildly.
00:03:16.100 It is a neurotype, aka a type of brain.
00:03:18.960 What might have been referred to as severely autistic would now be referred to as someone
00:03:22.480 with high support needs and or a person with an intellectual disability is autism and intellectual
00:03:27.800 disabilities are not one and the same.
00:03:29.880 And I really appreciated her telling me that.
00:03:31.540 And she also went on to actually say, and I'll share this part too, she wanted to let
00:03:34.420 me know about a really awesome historical lady.
00:03:36.220 So the concept of mild and severe quote unquote autism came from Hans Asperger, a Nazi physician
00:03:42.400 as he used it as a way to justify eugenics against disabled people. 0.96
00:03:46.700 It turns out though that all of the good information we have from him
00:03:49.420 is actually based off of the work of a woman named Grunia Sukareva
00:03:53.120 who had an understanding of autism incredibly similar to the current understanding
00:03:57.280 which included girls, as girls with autism often go ignored in the modern day.
00:04:01.460 She was incredible, so Minty recommends looking at her Wikipedia page
00:04:04.740 which I will link in this episode as well.
00:04:08.040 But anyway, this Mary Toft story, it's really distressing.
00:04:12.400 I think triggering on a number of levels, animal cruelty, I'm saying this as like Hepburn is here, just being like, hey, I'm a cool cat.
00:04:20.360 I'm like, I know.
00:04:21.040 And I would protect you with my life against Nathaniel St. Andre.
00:04:23.780 Anyway, but I mean, just like gynecological, invasive, non-consensual activities, animal cruelty, murder of rabbits, cats, eels. 1.00
00:04:35.020 It's a fucking disgusting story. 0.98
00:04:37.520 But it's also, in another context, a real wild ride. 1.00
00:04:42.400 And I can, I'd say that because like Mary Toft had this horrifying series of horrible things going on in her life.
00:04:49.860 And then at the end, she was just like, okay, I'm just going to go live out the rest of my life.
00:04:52.640 And she was like, seemingly reentered society and was an okay person.
00:04:58.820 And so that's kind of, I don't know.
00:05:01.300 I don't know.
00:05:02.200 I'm glad that she didn't die through the complications of like blood infections from all the stuff that's going on with her.
00:05:09.340 Anyway, I was going to say like, enjoy this episode, but like, here, I present this episode, Mary Toft.
00:05:21.900 Hello and welcome to Vulgar History. My name is Anne Foster and this is my feminist women's 0.98
00:05:28.020 history comedy podcast. And you might notice an improvement or maybe just like a change or
00:05:33.480 difference in the audio quality. And that is, I watched a tutorial on how to use my microphone
00:05:38.220 And I think I'm talking to the correct part of it now. So hopefully you're able to hear me a bit
00:05:43.400 better because this is a one woman operation and I'm figuring this out as I go along. So welcome 0.99
00:05:49.900 to the podcast. This is the fifth episode of the podcast and the first one since I've been iTunes
00:05:56.580 official. So welcome to all the new fans who came to me from iTunes and, you know, shout out to all
00:06:02.600 the fans who've been there since day one as I figure out what the hell I'm doing. So this is
00:06:07.600 a podcast where I look at the stories of women from history, and then we score them at the end
00:06:12.260 based on the four categories, which are scandalousness, scheminess, significance.
00:06:18.680 And then we give them a bonus for how much sexism might have impacted the things that
00:06:23.360 happened to them. It's a fun ride. Welcome aboard. So the first episodes that we've done of the show,
00:06:29.560 the first four episodes, we did one royal, two noble women, and one woman with connections
00:06:37.560 to royalty. So in terms of women's history, and the women's history that we're looking at on this
00:06:45.040 podcast so far, similar to what I have personally studied, is that of European, Western European
00:06:53.060 women. As per the quote by Laurel Thatcher Ulrich that inspired this season,
00:06:59.400 well-behaved women seldom make history. And I dive into that in some previous episodes. So if 0.99
00:07:05.080 you've caught up to that, awesome. Or if not, briefly, basically what she was talking about
00:07:10.060 in an essay when she said that instantly iconic phrase is basically the only time that women pop 0.98
00:07:17.960 up in records are when perhaps when they get married, because there would be often documentation 0.92
00:07:24.880 about that when they died, maybe when they had children, even when they were royal, sometimes
00:07:29.380 you don't get all of those things. And even then you might not get anything more than that. The
00:07:35.180 only women who you hear more about are people who, I guess, for lack of a better term, misbehaved. 0.99
00:07:41.680 So people who somehow stepped outside of the status quo and what was expected of them in 0.98
00:07:45.960 society. And that's who we know about. And there were so many, I'm sure, amazing, cool women who
00:07:51.020 were well-behaved and we just don't know what they were up to. And that sucks. And hopefully
00:07:55.920 we can look at their stories somehow once time travel is invented and we can go back and learn
00:08:00.960 their stories. But until then, the ones that I'm personally choosing to look at for this podcast
00:08:05.780 are the women who, especially for the season, quote unquote, misbehaved. And so we've looked
00:08:10.880 at people with connections to the nobility, to the royalty. And today's topic is a woman
00:08:16.860 who had no connections to either. She was an absolutely standard issue, peasant woman. 1.00
00:08:25.420 And what happened in her life is why we know about her. And this is so messed up. 0.99
00:08:31.660 here we go so we're looking at the story of mary toft who i'll give a little content warning just
00:08:41.420 because we're going to get into this is vulgar history in the name of the topic of the of the
00:08:46.620 show you see that i'm going to maybe say some some vulgar things i might have a swear word here then
00:08:51.940 um all the podcasts so far that i've uploaded actually i've had to put the explicit filter on
00:08:56.960 So this is like, prepare yourselves. But also today, we're going to be like, not shying away
00:09:01.460 from the gynecological details of some absolutely horrific stuff that involved vis-a-vis dead animal 0.99
00:09:08.760 parts inside of her vagina. So just content warning, that's not for everybody. And we're 0.92
00:09:14.740 going to be talking about that a lot for the next like, meh, 45 minutes. So here we go.
00:09:20.040 The story begins with the parents, whose names are Jane and John Denyer. They were
00:09:25.880 so when we say like working class like or even high class or lower class like basically
00:09:32.420 this is the year 1703 is when mary was born and so it was a sort of situation where you've got
00:09:38.980 sort of like your nobility your aristocracy you've got your royals and then you've kind of got
00:09:44.420 like really poor people like homeless level people and then you've kind of got like the working poor
00:09:51.280 and that's kind of what they were more than like working class I'd say they were like the working
00:09:55.960 poor so John and Jane Denyer they had five children overall all together and their oldest was a girl
00:10:03.540 named Mary so she was born Mary Denyer and she was baptized February 21st 1703 and like a lot of
00:10:13.100 people not just women not just working poor people but just like anyone in general even like royals
00:10:20.640 people whose every action you'd think would be written down. Like no, no one really knows much
00:10:24.700 about what she got up to because no one really wrote down a lot of what anyone was getting up
00:10:28.300 to because everyone was too busy working the fields, et cetera. But when she was 17 years old,
00:10:33.560 Mary Denyer married a man or a boy. She was 17 and her husband was 18 year old Joshua Toft.
00:10:40.420 And so this is young to be married even then, even though there's sort of this
00:10:46.200 sort of misconception slash myth that people got married when they were like 12 or whatever back
00:10:52.340 then. And I mean, like, yeah, patrols happened between rich people. But for a 17 year old girl
00:10:57.620 to marry an 18 year old boy, probably either they were in love, or she was pregnant, or one or the
00:11:05.260 other, or both. So basically, they got married in the year 1720. And Joshua Toft's family becomes
00:11:13.040 important. So we're going to dive a little bit into who they were and what that whole situation
00:11:17.660 was. So Joshua Toft was the sixth of 12 children and his family, the Tofts, were better off than
00:11:27.100 Mary's family, the Deniers. So they had been working for several centuries, like literally 0.85
00:11:32.380 hundreds of years as clothiers. And this is the sort of thing like we're seeing these days with
00:11:38.380 people talking about like, you know, agriculture industry or like coal mining or things where it's
00:11:43.020 Like this was a thing of family occupation business that people did for a really, really long time, but then sort of industrial change and times change and the weather and whatever makes it less tenable as a career choice.
00:11:56.540 And so for them, their choice of being clothiers was not doing super well by the year 1720, which is when Joshua married his friend Mary.
00:12:05.900 So a clothier, in this sense, basically means somebody who is in charge of sort of a fabric slash clothing making organization. So the clothier would be people, the head bosses, they would sort of employ people who would shear the sheep, they would employ the people that would like turn that into wool, they would hire the people who made that wool into fabric, like it's a whole sort of fashion empire situation.
00:12:32.960 but basically the tofts had been they had sort of made their fortune and their reputation through
00:12:38.960 the successful clothiary business but by 1720 they were sort of more on the shearing sheep
00:12:45.560 level of work than the like overseeing an entire company level but they still
00:12:49.480 called themselves clothiers on census documents so that's still kind of how they presented
00:12:55.280 themselves so like the toft family had a good pedigree but they weren't especially
00:13:01.320 financially well off. And especially Joshua being the sixth of 12 children, there wasn't a lot of
00:13:08.360 money for him personally to inherit or to have. Though he himself worked in the family clothier
00:13:15.820 business as well. So Mary and Joshua's first child was a daughter named Mary, which is just a thing
00:13:23.780 that people used to do that I wouldn't mind seeing come back again, which is that daughters were given
00:13:29.480 the same names as their mothers. I think it's cute. So Mary Toft had a daughter, also called
00:13:34.860 Mary Toft, who was born sometime around when they were married, probably around 17, let's say 21.
00:13:41.900 And then in 1723, Mary gave birth to a second child, a daughter whose name was Anne. Amazing
00:13:47.140 name. I'm also in favor of people being called Anne. But this Anne unfortunately died of smallpox,
00:13:52.460 aged around four months, which is awful. And then the next year, they had a son whose name was
00:13:59.680 James. So it's 1724. Mary has been married for four years. So she's 21 years old, mother of three.
00:14:08.580 She and James were renting a home from a farmer. And as this is like not a weird arrangement,
00:14:15.280 this is just like what was up. So they rented a home from a farmer. And as a condition of living
00:14:20.880 there they worked for the farmer in his fields so this meant that during her three pregnancies
00:14:29.240 and then also like postpartum like just after having had the babies she would be not just
00:14:36.440 working the fields but also basically walking commuting to the fields and it was basically
00:14:41.560 something like a two-hour walk there two-hour walk back the work was very physical work and
00:14:47.600 that was just what the situation of her life was. So Mary worked in the fields more than her husband
00:14:53.360 did because he also had to dedicate some of his time to being a clothier. He was a journeyman
00:15:00.720 clothier, which is like one step up of an apprentice, I think. So he was sort of like
00:15:06.360 on this career path, but there weren't very many jobs for clothiers. So he was basically a poorly
00:15:12.240 paid laborer slash working on the farmland of the place where they were renting slash his wife was
00:15:18.980 also working on that same farmland. And that is what is going on in their lives. So just to set
00:15:25.460 the scene. So by the time they were both 25 years old, they were the parents of two small children,
00:15:32.060 one of whom had recently just died. They're both working physically demanding low paying jobs in
00:15:37.360 a community where the Tofts used to be wealthy, but now weren't anymore. And Mary was pregnant
00:15:43.680 again. So as far as they knew, there's going to be one more mouth to feed. Any minute now, 0.95
00:15:49.400 more money would be fantastic and also less backbreaking work and also her getting to put
00:15:55.860 her feet up, but that's not going to happen. So in August 1726, so again, Mary is 25 years old.
00:16:05.980 yes, 25-ish years old, she has a miscarriage. So this story, as I mentioned at the beginning
00:16:13.360 in the content warning, has a lot of gynecological information involved in it. And a lot of it is 0.60
00:16:20.460 self-reported gynecological information from Mary Toft, who was a woman living in the early
00:16:26.240 1700s, which was a time when even the doctors didn't know what was going on
00:16:31.780 in terms of a uterus a cervix so she's just sort of like saying here's what it felt like to me
00:16:38.400 so what she later described this miscarriage as was she described passing an object as big as her
00:16:44.500 arm and then experiencing a flooding quote-unquote that lasted about a week so we can assume some
00:16:52.680 cramps were happening we can assume bleeding was happening the other women who she worked with in 0.88
00:16:58.680 the fields likely would have covered for her because she couldn't do this whole job she was 1.00
00:17:03.920 doing. She couldn't commute there. But what was unusual to her and others about this was that 0.96
00:17:10.100 her miscarriage didn't look like a baby. It looked like an object. And they all thought it looked
00:17:18.820 quote unquote monstrous. So Mary Tuft went back to work as soon as she could. But then three weeks
00:17:27.100 later, while she was working in the field, she experienced further flooding. This is the word
00:17:31.960 that she used herself to describe what's happening. So I'm guessing bleeding, cramping situations and
00:17:36.940 great pain. So this was some sort of, it was like a two part miscarriage situation, perhaps. And
00:17:45.500 this is where I'm just going to say that I, off the record, consulted with a woman who I know who
00:17:51.240 is a obstetrician slash gynecologist just to say like here's what Mary Toft was saying what do you
00:17:58.460 think this was and so she said again totally just like you know in those magazine articles where
00:18:04.100 it's like the body language expert is like oh here's what this means when this person put her
00:18:09.300 arm like this in the picture it's like this person didn't actually is not the psychologist of these
00:18:13.680 people so the woman who I consulted I just gave her here's Mary Toft's recounting what do you
00:18:18.600 think this was. And so what she suggested, based on sort of the description of the miscarriage
00:18:24.360 and what it looked like, the miscarriage situation, might have been an incomplete
00:18:30.240 molar pregnancy, M-O-L-A-R. So this is what happens when a non-viable fertilized egg implants
00:18:37.020 in the uterus. So totally unpleasant, awful, traumatizing thing to happen to her.
00:18:42.300 but at this point her in-laws the Toft family thought like well what if this was a monster
00:18:49.800 and then we could get rich by saying Mary Toft just gave birth to a monster this is quite a turn
00:18:57.200 in events so we'll just take a step back to be like why why would anyone ever think that
00:19:05.540 and how would that make them rich? And the answer to that is basically freak shows. So
00:19:13.960 English culture, as in culture in England at this time, was very interested in anything they saw
00:19:21.360 as monstrous. So ambitious people could try to round up interesting people or
00:19:27.400 quote unquote monsters to take on exhibit to get rich. So basically you would take somebody,
00:19:31.940 someone who's very tall, or someone who's very short, or someone whose body hair situation was
00:19:36.720 unusual. And you would take them to dinner parties, you would take them and put them on
00:19:41.240 exhibitions, you'd make people pay to see this person, and you would make money as their agent,
00:19:46.740 and the person would be probably horribly mistreated. So one year before Mary Toft's
00:19:51.520 very significant miscarriage, a young boy known as Peter the Wild Boy had been very trendy to
00:19:59.260 invite to your dinner party so he was a boy who you can google this peter the wild boy who had
00:20:03.860 been basically found he was like feral i guess is the word people use he to us now might say was
00:20:11.820 like severely autistic or something but basically he just acted in ways that people didn't expect
00:20:17.040 boys to act and he would be taken around and people would pay money to see him so freak shows
00:20:22.900 were also popular. And so the Toft family who remember they used to be pretty well off in their
00:20:30.680 clothier business. Now they were less well off. They were like, this is it. This is how we're
00:20:34.740 going to make our fortune. We're going to use our sister-in-law's horrible miscarriage situation to
00:20:40.900 get rich quick. So the person who seems to have been the instigator of this whole scenario was
00:20:49.320 Mary's mother-in-law, whose name was Anne Toft, and with an assist from Mary's sister-in-law,
00:20:56.880 Anne's daughter, Margaret Toft. So Anne and Margaret are kind of the schemers here.
00:21:04.140 Mary Toft is just sort of like their unwilling but necessary accomplice. So from Mary's statements,
00:21:10.740 which is, it's really a treasure trove of just sort of seeing how she herself perceived what
00:21:16.220 was happening to her and what she thought about what was happening to her etc she presents herself
00:21:20.540 as not having been on board for any of this when we get to the details of what this is going to
00:21:26.340 involve it's like yeah of course she was not involved like she didn't want to do this stuff
00:21:30.880 but anyway so married had her miscarriage in two parts um and the object the quote-unquote object
00:21:38.560 the size of her arm which is potentially this molar pregnancy this has all been disposed if it 0.97
00:21:44.980 wasn't around anymore. So Mary and Anne, or sorry, Margaret and Anne couldn't show it to people as
00:21:51.040 like, look at this crazy monster that she gave birth to. So as, as they needed something to
00:21:58.300 present as proof, what the Tufts did was they either killed a cat. My cat is here with me while
00:22:05.380 I'm recording that. And I'm just like, she and I are just like, we're not into this. Hepburn,
00:22:10.440 I'm sorry, there's going to be some weird cat stuff in this story. So put your hands over your
00:22:14.960 cat's ears. So they either killed a cat or found a dead cat, removed its guts, and then put a dead
00:22:21.600 eel. I guess they also found a dead eel or killed an eel. So they put a dead eel inside of a
00:22:27.580 vivisected cat carcass, and then put this whole scenario up inside of Mary via her vagina. They 1.00
00:22:36.320 put this dead cat with eel inside into mary toft's vagina which is the name of the like canal inside 1.00
00:22:47.280 so mary herself would later claim that the cat parts have been inserted into her cervix and the 0.94
00:22:54.740 cervix is like the part at the top of the vagina that like opens but very rarely and only a little
00:23:01.420 bit um and my my obstetrician slash gynecologist friend said basically like no like even after
00:23:07.460 you've had a miscarriage or had a baby like the cervix like seals itself back up like chances are
00:23:11.980 there was not cat parts inserted up literally into her cervix but that's what she thought had
00:23:18.440 happened and it probably felt just as shitty as that happening anyway so here we have mary
00:23:25.240 with a dead cat carcass with eel inside of it, inserted inside of her vegetal canal. 1.00
00:23:32.300 And so she pretends she's in labor. And then as you did then, because remember she'd had the
00:23:37.120 miscarriage. So maybe people still thought she was pregnant or something. No one really 0.57
00:23:41.220 interested in gynecology back then, including the male doctors, but we'll get to them in a bit.
00:23:45.700 So one of her neighbors came over to help. And the neighbor came over and was like, oh my God,
00:23:50.120 she just gave birth to a cat monster eel. And so she went to get Anne Toft, the mother-in-law
00:23:57.840 slash person who invented this whole situation, who is also some sort of midwife person or said
00:24:04.680 she was a midwife person or something like that. They were gathering witnesses is basically what
00:24:10.740 was happening. Anne Toft came over and she's like, oh my God, did my daughter just give birth to a
00:24:16.740 cat carcass with an eel inside of it that's wild and so she took the uh quote-unquote monster
00:24:25.540 to a surgeon slash midwife who lived nearby so he could tell them what was going on and the
00:24:31.600 surgeon slash midwife is a man named john howard and to his credit he was like
00:24:38.940 this seems unlikely like thank you so much for bringing me this um perhaps skinned 0.99
00:24:46.740 vivisected cat carcass with eel inside of it and saying that it came out of a woman's vagina. But 0.99
00:24:52.140 that is just like pretty hard for me to believe. But not just because that's like, of course,
00:24:56.620 it's hard for him to believe. That's impossible. But his reasoning was like, there's not a head
00:25:00.180 on this. And I guess they had cut the head off of the cat body. I'm just looking at my cat. It's
00:25:05.480 like, you poor little cat ancestors. So anyway, he was like, if Mary had actually given birth to
00:25:11.860 this monster, there would be a head on it, but there's not a head on this. Ergo, this woman 0.98
00:25:16.300 didn't give birth to this monster but he was like so i'll just come over the house and see what's
00:25:20.620 going on because you know giving birth maybe the head is there i don't know what he was thinking
00:25:24.820 this whole situation gets like super weird like even weirder so john howard came by and by the
00:25:33.100 time he got there mary just happened to be going in quote unquote going into labor again um her
00:25:39.300 mother-in-law and delivered more dead cat bits which i guess were from the same cat or a different
00:25:45.500 cat like does it matter i don't know so john howard was like hmm like you witnessed this
00:25:52.080 happening or he witnessed mary screaming and then someone being like look this cat just came out of
00:25:57.440 her or whatever but there still wasn't a cat head or a cat tail and he's like great i see that she
00:26:04.560 may have just given birth to this monster situation but again without a head i just can't get on board
00:26:11.040 so somehow uh margaret and ann toft had lost track of the cat head and there wasn't another
00:26:19.400 one nearby or whatever so they decided to go for rabbit bits because there were rabbits were easier 0.99
00:26:25.440 to come by than cats and so they just wanted to stuff some dead animal up inside of mary's vagina 0.96
00:26:31.340 because this whole thing is a nightmare so pause side note on rabbits in general which is just to 0.90
00:26:41.580 say that there was a lot of rabbits all over england at this time maybe they're still i don't
00:26:46.240 know i don't live there but hundreds of years before so medieval lords like back in the day
00:26:51.620 in the day medieval lords had built uh sort of little rabbit warrens to raise rabbits for meat
00:26:58.000 and fur so the medieval lords could have the meat and the fur for their fancy medieval lord
00:27:02.820 outfits and meals etc but rabbits cannot be tamed so they escaped from these enclosures and became
00:27:09.200 basically pests to the working poor to lower status people to the farmers etc so just rabbits
00:27:16.020 the whole peter rabbit situation the rabbits would come into people's farms eat all their lettuce
00:27:19.760 etc so rabbits were all over the place making them the easiest thing for the tofts to acquire
00:27:27.480 But also the rabbits had this sort of political implication as they're sort of seen as symbolic of the carelessness of the upper classes. So this is where the whole situation takes on a sort of political context that Margaret and Anne may or may not have consciously thought about, but that becomes part of the story as well, because this is just getting wilder.
00:27:49.880 It's, I know we've already had an eel in a headless cat inside a woman's vagina and a
00:27:57.940 doctor being like, but with no head did this happen, but this is going to get weirder. 0.96
00:28:02.380 So what happened?
00:28:03.680 Like flashback, what happened was John Howard was still like, yeah, I see some rabbit parts
00:28:08.120 just came out of this woman, but still no head. 0.51
00:28:11.220 So I just can't, can't be on board. 0.89
00:28:13.740 So basically, Anne Toft, who is the mother-in-law inserted the upper jaw of a rabbit into 1.00
00:28:19.740 mary's vagina and then just like peaced out she just left to be like okay mary like give birth to 1.00
00:28:26.620 this in the morning i'm not sure mary was in a horrible amount of pain because the uh upper jaw 1.00
00:28:33.300 had pointy bits on it like bones and so she called for help and somebody helped remove that from
00:28:40.540 inside of her but then the next day ann came back and she was like oh you've got that like we need 1.00
00:28:45.360 to have a head inside your vaginas then she forced the rest of the rabbit skull inside of mary 1.00
00:28:49.640 such that by the time that john howard arrived mary was bleeding i mean legitimately bleeding 1.00
00:28:57.840 from her inside vagina area not just from having like very recently had a miscarriage but also from 0.98
00:29:05.200 the like having had a rabbit skull inserted and then removed from her vagina so john howard was 0.99
00:29:13.180 like huh you know what this looks like a head i guess this is a monster so now i'm on board so 0.97
00:29:19.240 just side note on john howard in general so basically he was not just like this altruistic
00:29:26.260 man midwife running around helping women etc he was somebody who was like oh man if he if she
00:29:33.920 gave her to a monster eye john howard can also become rich as the guy who delivered the monster
00:29:40.580 babies so there's a lot of money in it for him in this so he might have been fooled by this but
00:29:48.220 I think it's more likely that he was kind of in on it, likely teaming up with Anne Toft,
00:29:53.320 the mother-in-law. But basically from this point, like he did not change his perspective.
00:29:58.600 He had no dotes at all. He was like into this situation. He supported what the Tofts were
00:30:03.360 saying. And he was like, I am the man who delivered the rabbit monsters. Such that he 0.89
00:30:09.140 started giving money to the Toft family every time Mary gave birth to another part of rabbit,
00:30:15.360 because her doing that was like good business for him in some sort of way apparently so what
00:30:23.300 happens next is that so now that so they had done like the cat with eel but that didn't quite work
00:30:29.440 because of the head situation so now there was a rabbit head but also other rabbit bits so the 1.00
00:30:36.500 toft family started coming up with a sort of a an explanation for why this human woman was
00:30:42.620 starting to give birth to rabbit bits. And the story that they decided on, and the story that
00:30:48.360 Mary started telling people, and the story that you still hear sometimes when the story is told
00:30:52.580 is a legend, is that Mary began to claim that she'd dreamed of rabbits throughout her actual
00:30:58.800 pregnancy, the one that had ended with a miscarriage. And she said that during the whole
00:31:03.720 time she was pregnant, she'd had a craving to eat rabbits. She was just like thinking about rabbits
00:31:07.660 during the whole pregnancy and so their explanation was basically she thought about
00:31:12.420 rabbits so much during the pregnancy her baby was a rabbit basically which is wild and very
00:31:23.260 strange conjecture but this all ties in with some of the medical science of the day which basically
00:31:28.340 talked about the importance of quote-unquote prenatal influence like basically whatever
00:31:34.380 pregnant women think about can affect their babies. Like not in a 21st century way where
00:31:39.040 you put headphones on your belly and like play baby Mozart or whatever, but sort of like if you
00:31:44.420 dream about rabbits, you will give birth to rabbits sort of way. And so for financial reasons
00:31:51.620 and also to, I don't know, cause they'd figured out a plan and they were just like, we're good
00:31:56.900 at it now. And Mary started delivering entire rabbits on a daily basis, piece by piece from
00:32:02.780 out of her vagina. John Howard delivered them all. His were the unwashed 18th century hands 0.99
00:32:09.760 reaching up inside of her over and over again. The fact she didn't die is incredible because
00:32:14.560 doctors back then didn't wash their hands between, for instance, I also learned this from my doctor
00:32:20.280 friend. So the reason that some women, many women died in childbirth in this sort of situation, 0.99
00:32:27.860 including potentially Jane Seymour, the third wife of Henry VIII,
00:32:31.720 is because doctors used to do like autopsies and cut up and whatever dead people.
00:32:36.180 Maybe wipe their hands on their apron, maybe not even, 1.00
00:32:38.480 and then go and like deliver a baby by like putting the hand up inside the vagina 1.00
00:32:41.860 at the woman and then the woman would get a horrible infection and die. 0.97
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00:36:19.200 and we're back so the fact that she mary toft was having these rabbit parts put inside of her 0.99
00:36:36.400 vagina and then john howard repeatedly delivering them it's incredible she didn't die from this 0.99
00:36:42.140 which spoiler she doesn't so he was delivering the pointy claws of dead rabbits from her vagina 0.99
00:36:50.080 like so it wasn't like a whole rabbit all up all at once it was like parts at a time and so over 0.96
00:36:56.220 the course of like a day she would quote unquote deliver a whole rabbit with her mother and sister
00:37:02.580 mother-in-law and sister-in-law the ones like helping to slide the bits up inside of her but 0.99
00:37:07.400 Mary was the one who had to like spread her legs and deliver these rabbit parts. So basically at 0.94
00:37:14.660 this point, John Howard was spending so much time with her and her like rabbit birth situation that 0.72
00:37:20.720 he entirely moved his entire medical practice so he could be with her 24 hours a day because one
00:37:26.380 never knew when a new rabbit part might need to be delivered. And he was the doctor that delivered
00:37:30.640 the rabbit babies. So by the end of November 1726, Mary Toft had given birth to, did you hear my
00:37:38.420 little quotes? Quote unquote, given birth to 12 complete rabbits piece by piece from her vagina. 0.99
00:37:47.960 They, like the pieces were put up, the pieces were removed, 12 rabbits. So sometimes she had 1.00
00:37:55.420 to keep rabbit bits up inside of her for days or even weeks. So John Howard wouldn't see them
00:38:00.060 being put inside. And again, the fact she didn't die of a blood infection is really speaks to the
00:38:06.480 resiliency of her immune system. So while this was all going on, so John Howard was like, this is
00:38:12.180 great. I'm the man who delivered the rabbits, but they weren't getting as famous as he wanted,
00:38:16.360 or as the Tofts had obviously also wanted. Mary, again, I don't think this was what she wanted for
00:38:23.180 herself, but she would get some of the money as well. Basically they're like, we just, how do we
00:38:27.260 take this to the next level which is like oh my god like what is the next level of this so we'll
00:38:34.020 find out so what happened is john howard wrote letters to every rich and important person he knew
00:38:38.500 hoping for more publicity which would bring him more money and glory and to be prepared he pickled
00:38:44.000 all the rabbit bits that he delivered um and he offered to like take his little jars of pickled
00:38:50.180 rabbit bits he could bring them to your dinner party he could bring them to your soiree he could
00:38:56.180 bring them to your medical lecture and he could talk about it. So basically he was blabbing about
00:39:00.460 this so much that basically eventually a small notice came up in a newspaper in London saying
00:39:06.480 like, hmm, this woman's been giving birth to rabbits. Like, isn't that weird? And that newspaper
00:39:11.920 article gained the attention of some men who served the king. Some of the courtiers of the
00:39:19.960 king at this time was King George I. And one of the people who noticed this or who heard about it
00:39:26.080 from the newspaper article was the king's personal physician, which is a man named Nathaniel Saint
00:39:31.320 Andre. And so now this takes this whole story takes its next mega twist moment, courtesy of
00:39:39.520 the king and Saint Andre. So first of all, a note on King George the first. So he was the grand
00:39:45.860 nephew. It's not the grandson, but the grand nephew of Queen Anne the first as played by
00:39:51.180 Olivia Colman in The Favourite. So if you remember from The Favourite, also a movie with a lot of
00:39:56.020 rabbits in it, also related to fertility. So the Queen Anne I had given birth to so many
00:40:03.480 children and sadly, none of them survived childhood. She had a huge number of miscarriages
00:40:09.900 as well. So basically she was the queen and no one knew who would inherit from her because she 0.94
00:40:15.040 did not have any surviving children. So basically because she died without any living heirs and she 0.95
00:40:20.880 was Protestant and nobody wanted a Catholic to inherit, they just sort of looked at her family
00:40:25.940 tree to figure, like, who is the next closely related to her Protestant person? And that was
00:40:32.760 George. So the thing about George is he was German, and he never learned how to speak English, 1.00
00:40:40.280 despite being the king of Britain. And he spent most of his reign, like, literally living 0.64
00:40:45.580 in Germany, not even in England. All of which to say, when it came time for George I to hire
00:40:54.080 a personal physician to be his doctor in England, he was like, well, as long as the doctor speaks
00:40:59.100 German, that's fine. So as his doctor, he chose Nathaniel St. Andre, who was from Switzerland,
00:41:06.040 who spoke German, and who's also a terrible doctor slash even worse person slash. Okay,
00:41:14.740 so we'll get into it. So Nathaniel St. Andre had a long history of odd behavior.
00:41:20.540 if you there's not time in here to get into all the nathaniel saint andre of it but his story
00:41:26.480 involves like wife stealing his story involves poisoning his story involves like was he even 0.90
00:41:31.780 really a doctor like he was just a messy bitch who lived for drama nathaniel saint andre so he 0.95
00:41:38.000 happened to find himself caught up in weird scandals a lot more than basically anybody else 0.98
00:41:42.780 because he loved scandal he loved drama and if there was a scandal happening he would like
00:41:48.140 fling himself into the middle of it because he was desperate to keep his name in the newspapers
00:41:52.180 as this like famous eccentric genius. So he just really wanted to be associated with anything
00:41:58.820 dramatic. John Howard just wanted money basically. And Mary Toft is just like this person in the
00:42:06.860 middle of all these other people's wild ambitions, which is such a common, I mean, not this story, 0.82
00:42:11.620 not the rabbit vagina situation of it all, but it's such a common thing of like a bunch of
00:42:17.700 men are just really ambitious about something and they see a way to get power. And the way to do it 0.97
00:42:22.820 is just by using a woman, like to a different extent. This is sort of the story of the beginning 0.89
00:42:29.660 of Queen Elizabeth I's reign. But anyway, Mary Toft is having, I mean, she's suffering. She's
00:42:37.500 physically suffering, like having rabbits pulled out of your vagina every day, having to put in 1.00
00:42:45.260 and then pull out the pointy bits. Like she just had a miscarriage. Like anyway, so she's just 1.00
00:42:53.120 like, she didn't want this. She didn't want this, but more and more people around her are just like
00:42:59.460 counting on her to keep doing this so that they will get rich or more powerful or whatever.
00:43:06.160 So basically the story of her rabbit births by now had gotten so locally famous that,
00:43:11.660 you know, there wasn't paparazzi or whatever, but basically she couldn't stay in her little
00:43:15.180 house that they were renting from the farmer who was also her boss. So she's moved to a bigger town.
00:43:21.200 John Howard came along with her to live in this town where she just continued. And, you know,
00:43:25.840 healthfully, her mother-in-law and sister-in-law came along too, so they could like procure rabbit 1.00
00:43:31.300 carcasses and shove them up inside of her. Actually, the person who was procuring the 1.00
00:43:35.720 rabbit carcasses was her husband, Joshua. Remember him from back before this story got so distressing?
00:43:42.500 so he's basically running around buying dead baby rabbits from whatever i don't know rabbit
00:43:48.820 vendors there are and he was not being discreet whatsoever like later the rabbit vendors would
00:43:54.560 be like he would come up and say stuff like yeah i need to buy some rabbits for my wife like do
00:43:58.840 you have any dead rabbits it'd be great if they were dead baby rabbits my wife needs dead baby 1.00
00:44:05.140 rabbits. No reason. So it was not a smooth operation. Ocean's 11, it is not. So Nathaniel 1.00
00:44:13.560 St. Andre was like, I'm into this. And so he swept up in town just in time to personally
00:44:19.560 witness Mary's 15th rabbit birth. So Nathaniel St. Andre, horrible person, messy bitch who lived 1.00
00:44:28.320 for drama, technically the king's personal physician in England, but also just like, 0.99
00:44:33.580 also a terrible doctor so he personally helped her deliver one of these rabbits and then he ran
00:44:40.900 off to autopsy it to see like what's going on you know like is this some sort of human fetus that
00:44:45.940 looks like a rabbit like what's the deal and so it's at this point that one of the things he did
00:44:51.020 was he took the lungs of the rabbit put them in water and they floated and the reason he did that
00:44:58.520 was to see like if they floated that means that those lungs had breathed air and so the rabbit
00:45:03.460 seemed to have been born dead but like if the lungs had air in them that means the rabbit at
00:45:09.240 some point breathed which means it probably didn't grow inside of matoft's uterus but he was not
00:45:17.340 ready to to debunk this he was there to support it basically so he just like didn't really get
00:45:24.180 too concerned about that. Like, I guess there's just air inside of her uterus. Like, why not? 0.71
00:45:28.480 There's already rabbits growing there. So, and just after this autopsy, he went over,
00:45:33.120 he was called back to her side again and witnessed the birth of another rabbit carcass. And so now
00:45:38.940 he also, not just autopsying the rabbit bits, but he also examined her whole vaginal area, 0.71
00:45:48.360 did a little peeking around, seeing what's up. He's like, let's just see if there's any more
00:45:53.020 rabbit parts hiding up inside here and he's like nope I don't see anything in there so I guess 0.99
00:45:58.540 I guess you're not secretly putting rabbit parts inside your vagina and then he left 0.98
00:46:03.140 but then he came back and he delivered another dead rabbit and he was like oh my god I looked 0.99
00:46:08.520 inside her vagina there's no rabbit parts there then she delivered a rabbit so like I am convinced 0.96
00:46:14.120 but also he went in there like ready to be convinced he didn't require much convincing 0.97
00:46:19.220 And then also later, like as much as one can love a detail in a story as profoundly fucked up as this story, I love this detail, which is in her later deposition, Mary explained that like when he looked up inside her vagina, there were rabbit parts there. There literally were. He just didn't know what he was doing or what he was looking at vis-a-vis a woman's vaginal canal. 0.97
00:46:43.340 so like he was just such a useless and unqualified doctor that he didn't notice 0.99
00:46:47.320 a rabbit carcass inside the vagina of a woman whose vagina he was inspecting to see if there's 1.00
00:46:53.320 a rabbit in it so basically poor her and nathaniel saint andre sucks and and guess what story gets 0.99
00:47:02.120 weirder so by now the king was kind of like even from germany was like what's going on this all 0.95
00:47:09.560 seems a little weird. And he was like, eh, I kind of know Nathaniel St. Andre, messy bitch who lives 0.98
00:47:14.180 for drama. So let's just like get like a objective third opinion on the situation. So he sent his 1.00
00:47:22.740 other personal physician who is named Syracius Ahlers. I'm going to call him Ahlers. Ahlers was
00:47:31.560 the official royal doctor of the German royal family, which is the one that George cared more
00:47:35.920 about so he chose like an actual good doctor for there allers was came into this whole thing thank
00:47:42.020 god skeptical of the whole situation he showed up basically like mary toft i don't believe you've
00:47:48.340 given birth to 15 rabbits prove me wrong so from moment one like he was not impressed with the
00:47:54.460 whole clown car that was this whole scheme so for instance when he arrived he showed up and
00:47:59.940 Nathaniel St. Andre was like, oh, look, this rabbit skin, she just gave birth to this. 0.68
00:48:05.480 You just missed it. And Ollers was like, I don't think so, because there's no blood or fluid on
00:48:12.100 this rabbit skin whatsoever. There's literally no way this was just born out of either a human woman 1.00
00:48:17.480 or a female rabbit. Also, he was just like looking in the room. He's like, oh, and also Mary Toph
00:48:24.140 doesn't look pregnant at all. I feel like she's literally wearing a corset right now. And she's 1.00
00:48:29.120 also walking around like holding her knees together like she's trying to make something 0.98
00:48:32.560 not fall out of her vagina so it's all just like a little suspicious and mary's like oh no i'm going 0.64
00:48:39.100 into labor and allers was like okay i'm gonna take care of this situation and despite him being
00:48:46.200 skeptical which made me sort of side with him a little bit turns out he didn't know what he was
00:48:51.660 doing at all vis-a-vis childbirth delivery he was a doctor but he was not a obstetrician nor was he
00:48:59.000 gynecologist so he reached his hand up inside of mary to like help her give birth but what he did 0.54
00:49:03.420 is he accidentally shoved the rabbit higher up into her vagina which is just like oh so mary 0.76
00:49:10.700 screamed in probably absolute genuine pain and john howard was like i got this but so while john 0.94
00:49:19.380 howard john howard delivered the new rabbit carcass allers sneakily stole some of the rabbit
00:49:24.400 bits and he like went off into his room and then even though he was supposed to stay in town for
00:49:29.980 three more days he pretended that he had a headache and then he secretly left town with him 0.97
00:49:34.900 so again he shoved the rabbit further up the vagina but i like allers for his sneakiness here 0.93
00:49:41.560 so basically he just like crept out of town i picture him climbing out a window he probably 0.84
00:49:45.500 didn't but he might have so in london he took the rabbit bits and he did further testing where he
00:49:50.920 found that A, the rabbits had had their muscles cut from their bones with sharp knives, not
00:49:56.900 something that could have happened in utero. And B, the rabbits had pellets in their bums
00:50:02.560 with corn and wheat and grass in them, meaning that the rabbits had eaten corn and wheat and
00:50:07.040 grass, meaning they had not just been born. So similar to what Nathaniel St. Andre had found
00:50:12.060 with the floating lungs, like these had been alive rabbits who were then killed and then put
00:50:17.260 inside of Mary. Like they did not gestate inside of her. So he had absolute proof now, as much as
00:50:23.840 one could have, you know, CSI 1726, he had proof that this was a hoax. So at this point, we picture
00:50:32.600 Mary herself, just whatever the 18th century equivalent of holding frozen peas to your vulva
00:50:38.840 would be, just like trying to make herself not hurt as much as she was obviously hurting both 0.55
00:50:46.620 psychologically and physically. But nobody else, nobody, nobody cared about her. Because what
00:50:52.600 happened next is that Allers, John Howard and St. Andre have basically a dick swinging contest
00:50:57.720 about which of them was the smartest doctor, which basically was all three men kept like one would 0.92
00:51:02.420 write a letter to the editors of the newspaper being like, Mary Toft is a hoaxer. And then one
00:51:06.460 of them would write a letter being like, no, Allers is a hypocrite. And then one would write a letter 0.99
00:51:10.160 being like, Nathaniel St. Andre is a messy bitch who lives for drama. And like Nathaniel St. Andre 1.00
00:51:13.660 probably sent that one so just a war of words but not even about her just between them about like
00:51:19.700 who's the smartest and best doctor throughout all of this and toft kept shoving rabbit bits into her
00:51:25.120 daughter-in-law john howard kept delivering them and finally just to settle this all the king
00:51:31.000 commanded an obstetrician like thank god named sir richard manningham like sir like he was a knight
00:51:39.060 like he was such a trusted obstetrician he was a knight of it to go and visit mary toft and figure 0.58
00:51:44.040 out literally what the fuck was going on sir richard manningham goes to see mary and he's like 0.99
00:51:50.460 so i don't see a rabbit inside her vagina her cervix seems closed as per usual for a person 0.99
00:51:59.380 not actively giving birth to anything um but then just after he left the room john howard was like 0.81
00:52:05.020 oh, I just, just after you left, look, she gave birth to these membranes. I guess you must not
00:52:10.680 have noticed them when you were examining her. And Manningham looked at the membranes, which were
00:52:15.700 clearly bits of a bladder from a pig that smelled like pig urine. And he was like, 0.90
00:52:21.780 I think this is a pig's bladder. Can you bring me like a pig's bladder to compare it to? And then 0.99
00:52:28.380 someone did that because there's a pig's bladder around. I don't know. And he's like, yeah, this 0.78
00:52:34.000 is clearly a pig's bladder uh this is hashtag a hoax and mary just started crying like honestly 0.64
00:52:40.920 of course she did and so the men the man doctors all agreed to bring mary back to london for 1.00
00:52:48.380 further examinations which like can't we just not have any more hands on her vagina ever again 1.00
00:52:55.960 apparently not so on to london now at this point what happens is saint andre wanted her next rabbit 0.99
00:53:05.680 birth to happen publicly like in a theater you know like those theaters like in um what's called
00:53:10.900 the nick is that what it's called the show but like the oldie time doctors where you like or
00:53:15.040 like in frankenstein and stuff where like a doctor's in the middle of an auditorium and there's
00:53:18.460 all medical students watching so saint andre wanted her to do that with everybody watching
00:53:23.600 so that he could get fame and glory but what happened when they got to london is mary was
00:53:29.480 for the first time no one thought of this before was put under basically around the clock surveillance 0.99
00:53:34.160 so there's no opportunity for anyone to bring her a rabbit to put inside of her vagina
00:53:38.060 so she didn't go into birth so she couldn't have it happen in auditorium anyway but also just like 1.00
00:53:44.980 i hope she just like went in the room whatever it was like a jail room a hotel room and just like
00:53:50.160 squeezed her legs together and just was grateful that her in-laws weren't there to do this to her 0.99
00:53:56.320 again but she was also at this point legitimately sick because obviously because no kidding because 0.99
00:54:02.980 she probably had like a thousand various internal infections from all the hands they probably had 0.77
00:54:09.260 gross pointy nails also the rabbit bits the skulls like of course she was sick basically she started 0.99
00:54:16.400 having fits and the doctors were like oh these fits kind of look like she's going into labor but
00:54:19.980 they were probably involuntary convulsions from various serious infections she was having and then
00:54:25.600 a man was caught trying to smuggle a dead rabbit into her room and he when he was caught they were
00:54:31.580 like why are you delivering this rabbit into her room and he was like because her sister-in-law
00:54:35.400 margaret paid me to do that and the jig was up because he was not good at rabbit sneaking
00:54:42.220 margaret toft the sister-in-law was brought in for questioning and she was like okay yes 1.00
00:54:46.420 i hired that guy to sneak the dead rabbit into mary toff's room but not for vagina reasons it 1.00
00:54:52.560 was because she likes to eat rabbits it was a special treat for her to eat a raw rabbit and 1.00
00:54:58.940 they were like sure so then they went to talk to mary and she was like yes if that's what she said
00:55:05.540 then that's true the rabbit was just for me to eat so for two days they interrogated mary trying
00:55:10.780 to get her to admit to the hoax and she wouldn't give in and she wouldn't give in because of family
00:55:15.280 loyalty and like I don't know delusional blood infection brain but eventually Manningham was
00:55:23.180 like okay so if this is true if you gave birth to whatever it is at this point 17 rabbits that 0.99
00:55:28.500 means that there's something really fucked up inside of your like innards so we just need to 0.99
00:55:33.720 like literally vivisect you now like cut you open in a surgical manner and look at your insides 0.99
00:55:39.320 and mary was like okay please don't do that it's a hoax so december 7th 1726 mary dictated her
00:55:49.540 confession and this is where we got a lot of the information from about the whole scenario because
00:55:54.920 she came clean so the first first round confession version one she claimed that she'd met a strange 1.00
00:56:01.720 woman on the road who had suggested that she should put rabbits in her vaginas pretend to 1.00
00:56:06.320 give birth to them because that would be a way for her to never want as long as you live like aka 1.00
00:56:11.640 would make her rich and they're like really a strange woman on the road told you this and then
00:56:16.440 you just did it like that's okay like a little unbelievable and mary toft was like okay version
00:56:23.100 two it wasn't a strange woman on the road it was in fact my in-law's idea it was my mother-in-law
00:56:29.320 and my sister-in-law and she also said that john howard was in on the scheme as well and she was
00:56:33.760 steadfast in all of her confessions and she herself was innocent in all of this. She didn't
00:56:38.240 want to do this. Like who, who would ever have wanted to do this? Of course she didn't want to
00:56:42.260 do this. So she was basically blaming other people, which is like, you know, people might
00:56:46.100 do that when they confess, but for her, it's like, I believe her based on every reason in the world.
00:56:52.280 But based on this confession, Mary was officially charged with a crime of being a notorious and
00:56:58.880 vile cheat which was a crime back then in that place in time so she was put into prison and
00:57:06.480 crowds would like mob outside just like desperate to see the rabbit queen and during this time
00:57:12.440 period she had a portrait painted of herself which is like people like mary toft like aside 1.00
00:57:18.940 from the whole rabbit vagina scenario like she would have never probably had a portrait painted 1.00
00:57:24.080 so it's kind of this is where it's like well-behaved women don't make history like we 1.00
00:57:27.700 heard about Mary Toff because of this scheme. She only really got her portrait done because of this 0.99
00:57:31.600 scheme. And so from that, we kind of see what she looks like, which is just sort of like a pleasant
00:57:35.840 looking person. Of course, in the portrait, he painted her holding an alive rabbit in her lap
00:57:40.820 because, you know, that's what the crowds would have wanted to see or whatever. So she was only
00:57:46.260 in jail for three months. She was discharged mostly because the crime of being a notorious
00:57:50.820 and a vile cheat isn't easy to prosecute because it's kind of not a thing. But during the three
00:57:56.700 months in jail, her health issues improved, partially because she wasn't having dead animal 1.00
00:58:00.680 bits and unwashed men's hands forced into her vagina on a daily basis. So feeling better, 0.99
00:58:06.880 bounced back. She returned back to her husband and her two children and her in-laws, which must
00:58:11.980 have been so awkward because they are nightmare, horrible people, and got her in the situation in
00:58:18.180 the first place. And about a year after, Mary Toft, now age 26, although it feels like she's
00:58:25.320 aged 100 years in this experience. She gave birth to another daughter who she named Elizabeth.
00:58:32.200 From then on, writers and newspapers and like, you know, cartoonists and things would still
00:58:36.780 continue to bring up the story, especially because of the whole rabbit political angle.
00:58:40.120 But Mary herself fades from public record almost entirely until she died in 1763.
00:58:48.420 So when she died, her husband had died first because the parish register
00:58:52.160 recorded her as Mary Toft, widow. They noted after her name as well, that she was the imposterous 0.99
00:58:59.220 rabbit breeder. And although poor women from where she grew up weren't ever written about 1.00
00:59:06.200 in London newspapers when they died, her obituary was actually published in the London newspapers 0.95
00:59:10.500 alongside those of aristocrats because she was still so famous for this whole fucked up situation. 0.64
00:59:17.780 So a couple of things I want to mention. 0.87
00:59:20.460 First of all, there's a new biography coming out of Mary Toft.
00:59:23.980 I'm really excited about it.
00:59:25.680 It's called The Imposterous Rabbit Breeder.
00:59:27.700 It's coming out in early 2020 and it's written by a researcher, historian named Karen Harvey.
00:59:34.220 And the thing that I'm really excited about with this book is that she's really making
00:59:37.340 the book about Mary Toft, not about all the men and doctors who were around her.
00:59:42.120 In researching this whole situation, there was a really great essay by the author of this book, Karen Harvey, that I read. All of my references are all put a link to them in the show notes. But basically, I'm really excited to read this book. Karen Harvey's point of view is really compelling. And she really puts a really person first spin on a story that's become sort of a myth at this point.
01:00:06.520 also just came out i haven't read it yet but there's a fiction historical fiction novel
01:00:11.240 written by dexter palmer called mary toft or the rabbit queen which seems like the main characters
01:00:17.440 in it are the men doctors and there's certainly a lot of drama to be cleaned from imagining what
01:00:23.140 they were up to i read a lot of things to research this i'll put the research notes um i'll link to
01:00:29.100 those in the post i won't say them all out but just know that there's a lot of interesting stuff
01:00:34.320 out there discussing this topic including um the lore podcast episode number 45 first impressions
01:00:41.440 which talks a bit about the myth around this whole situation and now it's the part in every
01:00:48.380 episode of vulgar history where we score this and this is a weird one because it's like mary toft
01:00:54.900 i feel i've read about her a lot and i feel like i know her and i feel like she didn't want this
01:01:00.520 she wasn't like if we were scoring nathaniel saint andre like he would get whatever high scores
01:01:06.660 because he was all about the scheminess but mary toft i feel like was not in it for herself so
01:01:13.380 the first category is a scandalousness and this is where even though she didn't she may or may
01:01:19.360 not have wanted to do this like like whatever it wound up being i think 17 rabbits like giving 1.00
01:01:27.920 birthed them from her vagina the like months long conspiracy of it it got up to the king 1.00
01:01:32.700 she was sent to jail like the scandalousness is pretty high here i think i'm going to give her 1.00
01:01:40.580 a seven for scandalousness partially because she didn't do it on purpose like it wasn't necessarily 0.93
01:01:48.360 her idea but it's just i mean it's a juicy juicy scandal her scheminess her personal scheminess i 0.58
01:01:55.280 think was not super high which is to her credit really again we're not scoring her in-laws for
01:02:01.440 them much higher score because they were the ones who came up with this but that being said
01:02:05.360 mary toft stuck with it she pretended to give birth to all these things she stuck to her story
01:02:10.320 she didn't give up for for two days of questioning i'm gonna give her a scheminess of four the next
01:02:17.160 category is the significance which is like had you heard of her before this i'm guessing for a lot of
01:02:24.020 you not because it's not a super famous story even if you've heard about the woman who gave 0.94
01:02:30.940 birth to rabbits you may not know her name the significance of it she didn't like it fucked up 0.53
01:02:37.560 the career of nathaniel saint andre but like that would have happened anyway because that was just 0.55
01:02:41.540 how he lived his life the significance i'm gonna give her the significance i mean i'm gonna give
01:02:50.100 two two for significance because you know it's being revisited we're talking about it here it's
01:02:55.220 not it's more significant than if it hadn't have happened but it didn't change the course of world
01:03:00.000 history the final category is where we give her bonus points based on how much sexism played a 1.00
01:03:05.620 part in this situation and i'm going to give her an eight for that because she was i could even go 1.00
01:03:13.640 higher because she was so helpless in this situation like her in-laws like regardless 0.95
01:03:20.460 of fact they were women doing this to her like she was stuck in a situation where she was so
01:03:25.500 helpless when the male doctors came in like she had no say in anything that was going on she was 1.00
01:03:30.720 just a victim of everybody oh you know what no i'm going to give her a seven a seven for sexism 0.96
01:03:36.760 So it gives her a total of 14, 16, 18, 19, 20. This gives her a score of 20, which is tied with 0.99
01:03:46.080 Caroline of Brunswick, which I think is respectable, but they're tied with the smallest
01:03:52.080 amount right now, the two of them. So yeah, that was, I think, officially the most fucked up story 0.99
01:03:58.780 I've told on this podcast yet. So I do want to reiterate that in 2020, a biography of Mary Toft 0.90
01:04:10.780 and this whole situation came out called The Imposterous Rabbit Breeder, Mary Toft and 18th
01:04:14.740 Century England by Karen Harvey. And I based my research for this episode on some articles Karen
01:04:20.620 Harvey had written, and she's kind of like, she's the Mary Toft person. She's the expert. So to read
01:04:25.640 more about this to learn more about the story i really recommend that book god it's just like yay
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