Vulgar History - September 18, 2024


Women Leaders, part 3： Boudica (Literally) Burned London Down (Rerelease)

Women Leaders, part 2： Ancient Rome's Most Murderous Woman (Rerelease) So This Asshole： Louis XIV

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00:00:00.000 hello and welcome to vulgar history a feminist women's history comedy podcast my name is ann
00:00:16.340 foster an extra special welcome to the people who are just discovering this podcast now because
00:00:21.100 it's on youtube now i'm not making videos but like the podcast is on youtube and so some youtube
00:00:28.120 podcast listener people are coming on board. So welcome all. And what I'm releasing today
00:00:35.700 is a revisiting of an episode that I recorded in 2020, which was from season two of the podcast.
00:00:42.920 The theme of season two was women leaders in history and the men who whined about them.
00:00:47.900 And this is the third in a row. You're going to hear past me saying this as well in the episode,
00:00:53.360 but it's the third like ancient Roman adjacent woman. It was a woman who, who the men of ancient
00:00:59.660 Rome just like couldn't handle. And we're talking about Boudica. If you're like, that's not how you 0.95
00:01:03.960 pronounce it. Wait until after the episode, the classic episode starts. I'm going to explain the
00:01:09.540 pronunciation and why I choose to pronounce the name in that way. T-L-D-R. No one knows how people
00:01:15.580 pronounce this name. It was so long ago. Anyway, I have got some more announcements and things to
00:01:20.780 tell you after this episode. But enjoy this new, clean, edited. I recorded the original of this
00:01:29.120 back before I was working with Christina Lumagi, my amazing editor, who makes the audio sound so
00:01:33.480 much better. So you can enjoy this new, better sounding version of this episode on Boudicca,
00:01:39.520 and I'll be back after to give you some updates. 1.00
00:01:42.720 hello and welcome to vulgar history a feminist women's history comedy podcast i'm your host 0.99
00:01:55.380 and foster and this is season two episode three this season's topic is women leaders in history
00:02:02.660 and the men who whined about it and for the third week in a row we are looking at roman men
00:02:07.820 whining about a woman because isn't it interesting how in ancient Roman society there was sort of
00:02:15.860 this expectation that women should be sort of seen and not heard and just sort of hang around and
00:02:20.500 give birth to babies and maybe like gracefully die by suicide if they became too inconvenient 0.98
00:02:27.540 to the men around them. This was sort of the society and what Rome the Roman Empire was trying
00:02:33.100 to make things be like and then one after another these super powerful badass women got in their way 1.00
00:02:38.660 almost like their whole concept was incorrect and like women had their own minds and brains and 1.00
00:02:46.040 didn't want to behave that way all the time so we saw in episode one of this season Cleopatra 0.83
00:02:51.980 episode two was about Agrippina and today sort of the third I always think of these women sort of 0.97
00:02:58.060 in a cluster of people together where it's just like one woman who really annoyed the men of Rome
00:03:03.300 and then they, you know, she dies and another one pops up and she dies and then another one pops up
00:03:08.240 and that's who Boudicca is. She is the third one. I'm going to pronounce the name Boudicca because
00:03:13.920 that is what I, how I think it's said. Although some people pronounce it Boudicca for a long time,
00:03:22.400 people thought it was called Boudiccia, but that was based on just misreading somebody's writing
00:03:26.760 where they thought a c was an e at the end but as we will learn she's a woman who a lot of what
00:03:35.020 was written about her was sort of guesses by people who were were around back then because
00:03:41.160 she was let's get into it so uh the women who we're talking about today lived about 2 000 years
00:03:47.440 ago and the word buddha b-o-u-d-a is an ancient britain word meaning victory so it's entirely
00:03:56.740 possible that she was called buddhika by the romans because they didn't know her name she
00:04:01.820 just won a lot so they were just kind of like we don't we don't know her name we're just going to
00:04:05.380 call her like the one who wins all the time although that could have also been her name
00:04:10.380 like maybe she won all the time and people called her that or maybe in sort of a fortuitous naming
00:04:15.300 thing. They called her that as a baby and she grew up to fulfill the destiny of that name.
00:04:19.480 We're calling her Boudicca because we don't know anything else to call her. That is what we are
00:04:24.600 going to call her. So even more so than when we were looking at Cleopatra and Agrippina,
00:04:31.100 everything written about Boudicca was written well after she was around by people who didn't
00:04:37.060 actually deal with her personally. So rather than me saying like allegedly in front of literally
00:04:43.260 every sentence. Just sort of imagine it. I'm just going to say allegedly right now and that will
00:04:49.500 sort of encompass everything I'm going to tell you. So the things that we have as sources are
00:04:56.060 two men who wrote about her well after she was dead and also some archaeological evidence which
00:05:01.860 when you put it together it sort of backs up what some of these men were talking about but also the
00:05:06.600 men writing had their own reasons for spinning things in a certain way and we're going to get
00:05:11.360 We'll get into it. I'll explain everything. But basically, again, with a big allegedly HTML code
00:05:18.700 around all of this. So Boudicca was probably born around the year 30 AD. So she was born to
00:05:27.880 an aristocratic family in the Roman occupied city of Camuludonomen, which was in the southeast part
00:05:36.900 of modern-day England. So it's where modern-day Colchester is, if you're familiar with the UK.
00:05:43.040 I'm here in Canada, and that doesn't mean a lot to me personally, but basically
00:05:46.600 Southeast England, Camel the Dunman. So she was born in this Roman-occupied place, and it was
00:05:53.260 a sort of situation where the rulers of this place would have been behaving kind of like Romans,
00:05:58.780 because they were dealing with the Romans. So that's sort of what the first part of her life
00:06:03.540 perhaps was like. When she was probably about 18, she was married to King Prasetagus of the
00:06:11.000 Iceni. Iceni? And so she became the queen of the Iceni by virtue of this marriage. The Iceni were
00:06:18.180 a Celtic tribe who lived in, so again, southeastern England. And do you remember how, if you heard
00:06:26.040 last week's episode when we were talking about Agrippina and stuff, her husband Claudius is the
00:06:30.660 one who was emperor at the time that the Romans invaded Britain. So this is kind of where the
00:06:37.720 stories overlap with each other a bit. So Prasetagus, who is the husband, the king, like in
00:06:42.940 order to stay being king while the Romans are occupying, he had to make some deals, make some
00:06:48.640 compromises to just to make his life as good as possible. So for instance, the Iceni were permitted 1.00
00:06:57.480 to remain independent of Rome, as long as Prasetagus paid annual fees to the Romans and 0.75
00:07:02.840 also supported them politically, like against the local tribes, basically. So as part of this deal, 0.52
00:07:09.700 Prasetagus agreed that when he died, the kingdom would be jointly inherited by his two daughters,
00:07:13.980 as well as by the Roman emperor Nero. So Nero, who you might remember from last week, was Agrippina's
00:07:20.300 shitty son, who killed his own mother, had a gross neckbeard, and we hate him. So he was the 0.99
00:07:26.940 emperor at this time. But the thing, so Prasetagas had two daughters, no sons. And this is the sort
00:07:32.320 of situation where, I mean, we look at so many different times and place on this podcast, and I
00:07:37.640 do just in my various historical researching and stuff. And it's often, in what I'm reading about,
00:07:44.540 which tends to be Renaissance England, tends to be what I've read a lot of before, but just other
00:07:50.860 cultures too, like some medieval scenarios and stuff, where it's just kind of like ancient Rome
00:07:54.620 as well, where women just didn't have the rights to inherit stuff. Like usually a father would 0.54
00:08:01.500 just be like, I need to have a son because he'd have like a boy who's going to inherit everything. 0.79
00:08:06.560 These daughters, like what we do with our daughters is we just marry them off. That's it. 0.88
00:08:10.280 But seemingly in this situation, among the Iceni, it was cool that his daughters would inherit from 1.00
00:08:16.720 him. So good for them, I guess. A little more forward thinking than the Grosso Romans. Anyway, 1.00
00:08:22.980 so prosatagosus will basically said when he died the kingdom would be jointly shared by his
00:08:29.360 daughters and nero so it would be part of the empire but bodica would be the regent until the
00:08:35.420 girls came of age which is like a very specific thing to put in a will like he's really writing
00:08:40.600 this out as though he expects to die before his wife and just really wants to make sure everything
00:08:46.360 is figured out in a very specific way which i mean like on the one hand good for him but on the other
00:08:51.140 it's like i don't know after after the agrippina episode last week i'm just like really suspicious
00:08:55.940 of people writing wills and did they mean to say what they wanted to say the important part of this
00:09:01.460 is effectively that the kingdom upon the death of prasitagus would be sort of inherited by nero
00:09:07.740 shared with the daughters that's what he wanted but he wasn't in control of very much anyway so
00:09:13.960 for this first part of their married life bodico is probably hanging out being sort of like a roman
00:09:18.660 style woman perhaps speaking latin sitting around you know drinking wine wearing a toga
00:09:24.220 just sort of being like a like an i claudius sort of situation with just you know people
00:09:30.840 making funny jokes maybe doing plays for each other i don't know just like aristocracy which
00:09:36.200 i find really interesting because what we're going to get to and what how bodica is known 0.91
00:09:40.580 as this kind of like feral warrior person but she started off her life not like that there's 1.00
00:09:47.220 going to be a ship that's going to come in a really awful way in probably a few minutes. I'm
00:09:51.940 going to talk about it. So what did she look like? So there was a Roman writer named Cassius Dio
00:09:57.960 who never met her, but he seems to have read accounts by people who did meet her, described
00:10:04.000 her as, and this is a translation, he wrote, and this was like a hundred years after she was ever
00:10:10.100 around. Anyway, so he wrote, quote, in stature, she was very tall, an appearance most terrifying
00:10:16.660 in the glance of her eye, most fierce, and her voice was harsh. A great mass of the tawniest
00:10:22.340 hair fell to her hips. Around her neck was a large golden necklace, and she wore a tunic of
00:10:27.900 diverse colors over which a thick mantle was fastened with a brooch. This was her invariable
00:10:33.500 attire. So a few things there. First of all, hashtag goals. One day, I hope someone describes 0.88
00:10:40.960 me as in the glance of my eye, most fierce. So he was grossed out by her because she was a woman
00:10:48.140 and he thought women were gross, especially when they weren't just staying quietly in a house 1.00
00:10:53.180 raising children. So he says she was tall. She looked terrifying. She had these intense eyes. 1.00
00:10:59.500 He goes on about how her voice was unpleasant, which I think to him was more just like
00:11:03.900 she was a woman who talked and had a voice and that was enough to bother him.
00:11:10.960 A hundred years later, he's like, oh, there's this woman. Sounds like she like raised her voice
00:11:15.220 sometimes. Gross. He also mentioned her hair was this translation I just read called it tawny. 0.96
00:11:21.380 Some people call it red. The word that he used is a similar word that he uses in another part
00:11:26.340 of his writing to describe a lion. So it could be her hair was like golden colored, like a
00:11:31.060 strawberry blonde type of thing. She's famous. Well, she's sort of famously known as being this 0.99
00:11:35.180 like long red-haired goddess so we'll never know what color hair it is i have red hair so i like
00:11:42.240 to think her hair was red but my hair is also kind of strawberry blonde so i'm like okay with
00:11:45.980 that as well but basically she was a imposing intense looking person who sounds amazing so
00:11:55.420 just getting back to sort of what the ancient culture was like that she was living in
00:11:59.380 So the whole thing about the daughters co inheriting the kingdom from the from their father. So this wasn't like literally a matriarchy, but women in the Iceni kingdom were allowed to own property, they could inherit land and titles and, you know, were allowed to go outside and like be seen as people, unlike women in Rome. 0.94
00:12:21.580 um so basically what happened is that prostatagus died which seems sort of like i guess that's why
00:12:28.760 he's writing his will maybe he was sick i don't know so he had this will everyone was like this
00:12:33.800 is what's going to happen but then the romans came in just like psych like we don't care what this
00:12:38.740 will said we're horrible imperial colonizers and they seized control entirely themselves
00:12:44.320 so at this point in time the roman governor of britain was a man named suetonius paulinus
00:12:50.860 He was not literally there in person when they took over after the death of Prasitagus, but so it was likely some Roman veterans and others who weren't off with Suetonius at this time who did the actual pillaging.
00:13:06.160 and what they did is they plundered the palace, Boudicca's home palace. They plundered the homes
00:13:13.900 of all the Icenian nobility. They turned Prasitagus's relatives into slaves. They stripped 0.99
00:13:20.020 all the Icenian nobles of their property. So they just like fully, not just like, oh, we're going to
00:13:26.420 be king now or whatever. They're like, oh no, we're going to like destroy you. So claiming that
00:13:32.680 Prasitagus had died, still owing debt to the Roman empires. They publicly stripped and flogged
00:13:39.420 Boudica and allegedly raped her young daughters. So this is the purpose of doing something like 0.97
00:13:46.500 this would be just to sort of make the people, the Iceni, not revolt against them, to make them 0.99
00:13:54.240 see like, this is what we're doing to your queen, to this really respected woman, like the, to rape 0.90
00:14:00.340 the young daughters would be a way of saying like, you know, we have ruined, quote unquote, 0.99
00:14:06.220 these young girls. To strip and flog Bordica, like that's treatment that maybe enslaved people 1.00
00:14:14.500 would have been treated to. So to do this to the queen was them saying like, we don't respect you
00:14:18.760 or your people at all. So this was, it was basically an act of war. And so these acts
00:14:26.380 were specifically malevolent to the Iceni. I mean, for obvious reasons, it's, she was their 0.99
00:14:31.380 queen and this was awful, but also just culturally to them, Boudicca and her role was sort of like
00:14:38.280 a priestess as well as sort of a representation of a goddess on earth. So it's not just, just,
00:14:46.300 like, so they had assaulted these two girls and their mother, but in so doing, they'd also sort 0.95
00:14:52.700 of desecrated the Icenis' entire culture and religion. There's another one of the sources
00:14:57.900 here is a Roman writer named Tacitus, who was writing a few decades after the fact. But again,
00:15:04.420 he might have talked to people who knew what was up. And so as per him, after this happened,
00:15:10.500 Boudicca swore then and there that she was going to get revenge against the Romans for
00:15:14.100 all of this, for the way that she was treated, for what they did to her daughters, for the way
00:15:18.980 they just pillaged the town for how they didn't honor her late husband's will so tacitus says 0.95
00:15:25.760 bodica said so quote nothing is safe from roman pride and arrogance they will deface the sacred 0.99
00:15:31.400 and will deflower our virgins win the battle or perish that is what i a woman will do and so 0.79
00:15:38.460 it was on basically she's just going on her revenge battle streak like it's happening so 0.92
00:15:46.920 one of the ways that the romans had been able to so completely take over britain the island which
00:15:52.940 was comprised of all these different groups and tribes of people was that they took advantage of
00:15:57.880 the inter-tribal rivalries between the different kingdoms they were able to because everybody was
00:16:02.140 fighting against each other they weren't they didn't even think of teaming up together against
00:16:07.040 the romans but in so doing the thing is that they meant that all these groups now had a single
00:16:12.140 shared enemy, i.e. the Romans. All they needed was a leader strong enough to unite them. And
00:16:19.420 they found this in Boudicca. So again, Suetonius Paulinus, the governor, was yet again out of town
00:16:28.620 and Boudicca got to work building up an army of sort of all tribes put together. So first up,
00:16:34.940 she and the Iceni people joined with their neighboring tribe who were called the Trinovantes,
00:16:40.360 which were possibly the tribe that she herself was from originally so it makes sense that they
00:16:44.900 would they would team up with her in this situation so the trinovantes had been allied
00:16:49.720 with the romans for almost 100 years during which time they had come to despise them because the 0.57
00:16:55.840 romans were awful to them awful in many ways frankly in this period of time so the romans
00:17:02.840 had taken over the trinovantes capital city which was called camulodunum camulodunum which is just
00:17:09.420 like a really delightful word to look at. Anyway, so Kemuludunamun was sort of a retirement community
00:17:14.560 for military veterans. The Romans had forced the Trinavantes to build a temple there in honor of
00:17:20.460 Claudius. You guys remember Claudius was the emperor when they first took over. And so he was
00:17:25.780 dead at this point, Claudius, but this was to honor his memory. So the Romans basically took
00:17:30.880 over the city, bust in all of their military veterans, and made them build this temple in
00:17:36.320 honor of an emperor who none of them really liked, who was responsible for them being there in the
00:17:42.580 first place. So the city and its temple symbolized everything that all the non-Romans hated about the 1.00
00:17:48.080 Roman occupation. So Bodeca was like, hey, Trinavanti's people, like, what if we invade 0.83
00:17:53.960 Camuludonamun? And so the Trinavanti's were like, where and when and sign us up, like, let's do it. 0.84
00:18:00.440 So rebellion commenced. So Boudicca delivered a scathing speech, like a super like psyching everybody up sort of moment. And everyone got really excited about it. And then she did something that I will quote from Cassius Dio to explain.
00:18:17.440 she gave a speech these sort of like allied forces and as per Cassius Dio what happened next
00:18:23.940 is when Boudicca had finished speaking she employed a species of divination letting a rabbit escape
00:18:30.100 from the fold of her dress and since it ran on what they considered the auspicious side the whole
00:18:34.860 multitude shouted out with pleasure so this was sort of like a groundhog day scenario so in Boudicca's
00:18:41.320 culture the rabbit or the hare was likely some sort of a holy symbol and so which direction ran
00:18:47.080 in just sort of one way it was auspicious and one way it was not so they with the hair sort of went
00:18:55.300 the way they wanted to and so things were great so off they went so when they arrived at Camuludanum
00:19:00.960 the Roman army was mostly not even there because they're off fighting somewhere else and this was
00:19:06.160 unexpected to them this was a surprise ambush attack they weren't expecting to be invaded by
00:19:10.620 tens of thousands of irate Britons and the people who were living there remember it was like a little
00:19:15.820 retirement community so they were sort of older people maybe not in as amazing shape as some other
00:19:22.640 soldiers so they were entirely unprepared they sent a messenger to try and get help from the
00:19:27.300 governor from Suetonius but Suetonius was like not a big deal like you're fine you're like all
00:19:33.160 military veterans deal with it so what happened is that Boudicca and her forces decimated the city 0.97
00:19:38.200 to the point that archaeologists who've examined the site 2,000 years later were like oh shit like 0.91
00:19:44.080 look what happened here so the city was entirely destroyed via burning like there was a layer of 0.51
00:19:49.500 burnt ash underneath were roman items from like literally this year like the year 60 there were
00:19:55.080 also like dead skeleton bodies all over the place and the skeletons themselves have been butchered
00:19:59.620 like the people had been just like killed in the most brutal ways and then maybe like ripped apart
00:20:04.360 afterwards or something so it wasn't just human bodies that were decimated so in the course of
00:20:09.740 the battle or maybe like post battle victory party uh the team decapitated the head from a bronze
00:20:16.280 statue of nero so there was the statue the temple was built to honor claudius there's a giant statue
00:20:23.060 of nero and bodica's forces decapitated the head off of a nero bronze statue which is just like
00:20:29.880 so satisfying i mean must have been so satisfying to them and they kept it with them as a trophy
00:20:35.900 like they just carried a head around like badass so then this military guy named quintus petilius
00:20:43.000 surrealis tried to be a hero and tried to take the city back with his own forces but did not work
00:20:49.640 bodica and her team they were just like running on adrenaline and just like being amazing warriors
00:20:55.640 and so she killed almost all of his forces and that was like step one of her multi-step plan to
00:21:02.760 just like destroy all the romans in britain so word of her military amazingness spread and her
00:21:09.100 army grew as she marched with people from all different former warring tribes like she was just
00:21:12.620 kind of going around like conscripting people she's just like hey do you hate the romans we do
00:21:16.520 too join bodica's army and so it was a sort of like group of all people from different tribes
00:21:22.100 and tribes who used to hate each other but they all just hated the romans so much more because
00:21:26.220 they all just wanted revenge because the romans had been shitty to all of them and now for a quick
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00:24:46.300 by realm and we're back and so the further she marched the bigger her army became until it was
00:24:53.040 up to something like 100,000 people. Oppressed Britons just sent on destroying their oppressors.
00:24:59.060 Just like the revolution is here. And she was still just getting started. So the next place
00:25:04.240 they went on to was oldie times London. Back then, London was called Londondinium. And it was a pretty
00:25:11.760 recent-ish city. It was about a 20-year-old city and it was a commercial slash trade center and
00:25:18.560 home to about 30,000 people. And when the 30,000 people in London didn't hear the Boudica and her
00:25:24.860 like 100,000 people were on their way, the entire population just like peaced out and fled without
00:25:30.560 even attempting to defend the city. Like they were just like, we're just going to let Boudica's army 0.95
00:25:35.820 have the city so we don't die. And again, archaeological evidence that's been found more
00:25:41.740 recently revealed that Boudica's team literally burned down the entire city. They tortured and 0.65
00:25:47.380 murdered any romans unlucky enough to have been left behind the whole torturing murdering thing
00:25:52.900 again if you put everything in the context of like what was up like they were at war they were
00:26:00.220 this this ragtag group of people who were using sort of shock and terror in the same way the
00:26:07.680 romans had um assaulted bodica and her daughters where it's just like if you kill a bunch of people
00:26:13.080 really gruesomely and then just like leave their bodies up on sticks or whatever like vlad the
00:26:19.720 impaler style like the bodies would rot which is gross smells bad might keep people away but also
00:26:24.600 just shows people it's a warning of like hey do you want to cross me like here's what i'm going 0.95
00:26:28.500 to do to you so having now destroyed the two largest roman settlements that they could find 0.75
00:26:34.640 bodica's army turned to the third largest because i guess they're like working their way down
00:26:39.700 solid planning and so the next place was called veru verulamium verulamium so the thing with the
00:26:47.660 city is that it was run by a tribe called the catu valauni who hadn't been enslaved by the romans
00:26:53.540 but more like they had just sort of like rolled over and let the romans take over without really
00:26:59.160 fighting them about it so they were sort of um not as respected and also not as likely to rebel
00:27:06.660 against the romans because they just kind of like we're okay with it so bodica's army just kept
00:27:11.440 marching kept getting bigger like just the image of just like literally like a snowball rolling
00:27:16.340 down a hill and just becoming bigger and bigger and more people you know word would spread this
00:27:20.180 was happening it's like this is our time all the oppressed like join with us so this huge army
00:27:26.340 heads towards verulimium taking a cue from the people of londondinium who were smart enough to 0.73
00:27:33.840 run away the people of very low minium dropped what they were doing and ran away rather than
00:27:38.160 face the forces and again bodica and company burned the entire empty city down and then they 0.95
00:27:43.540 went off to hunt down torture and kill anyone they could find to just like continue being like
00:27:47.660 we're serious about this or scary like beware the romans like hopefully like they could just 0.53
00:27:53.400 be terrifying enough that the romans themselves would just like peace out on their own but au
00:27:58.300 contraire. The Romans having now lost basically their three biggest settlements in Britain were
00:28:05.080 a little bit upset by all of this. Adding to their annoyance was the fact that these really
00:28:10.500 successful and gruesome military campaigns were being run by a woman and they hated women. So 0.99
00:28:17.600 the Romans thought that all the people in Britain were sort of like uncivilized monsters, like
00:28:23.000 savagess sort of thing. And they also thought that women were sort of like trophies for men
00:28:31.400 and not people in their own right. So to be outsmarted three times by a woman from Britain
00:28:36.580 was just like brain exploding to them. They're just like, what is even happening? So this was
00:28:42.340 30 years after Cleopatra had thoroughly challenged the Romans and just a year or two after Agrippina
00:28:48.920 the younger had sort of made her own power move so they're just like the romans are like what is 0.97
00:28:53.640 happening vis-a-vis women keeping bothering us so they're they're a little frustrated and annoyed
00:29:01.180 by having yet another warrior women to face off against and this is sort of like on top of their
00:29:06.880 like general baseline cultural hatred of women they were at a point of just like really being
00:29:13.100 tired of of women getting in their way so cassius dio decades later wrote all this ruin was brought
00:29:19.780 upon the romans by a woman the fact that in itself caused them the greatest of shame so the romans
00:29:26.140 were like let's deal with this and so what they did is they amassed 10 000 men to face off against
00:29:31.740 bodica's band of rebels and she had hundreds of thousands of people the romans had a 10 000 people
00:29:38.860 which is like a lot of people.
00:29:40.780 Boudicca had something like 300,000 former enslaved Britons fighting on her side.
00:29:45.200 And rather than sitting around waiting to be attacked,
00:29:47.260 Boudicca's growing, ever-growing army marched right over to meet the Romans to do battle with them.
00:29:52.480 But little did she know, leading the Roman forces that day was the same guy
00:29:56.780 who had been out of town when she started this campaign.
00:29:59.020 The one who had ordered to have her hometown destroyed, to have her assaulted, etc.
00:30:05.080 basically her archenemy, the British governor Suetonius Paulinus. Now, the site of this battle
00:30:11.980 is unknown, but we do know that beforehand, famously, Boudicca rode around in a chariot
00:30:18.340 with her two daughters. Her two daughters are often with her as a sort of like to show, I don't
00:30:24.280 know, maybe a reminder of like, you know, they tried to defeat me and my daughters by attacking
00:30:29.340 us, but look at us, we're stronger than ever, etc. So she just kind of like, if you picture
00:30:34.980 like Coachella or something, just like a huge field full of like so many people. And she was
00:30:40.920 just riding around in a chair with her daughters, hyping everybody up, these like 300,000 people.
00:30:45.220 And she gave an amazing speech in her quote unquote harsh voice. The Dio thought was so
00:30:51.060 annoying. I mean, just an amazing moment. I love this for her. So as recorded by Tacitus,
00:30:58.340 her speech included the following line, and this is a quote, quote of a thing,
00:31:02.940 Boudicca allegedly said, we British are used to women commanders in war, but I am not fighting 0.92
00:31:08.480 for my kingdom and wealth now. I'm fighting as an ordinary person for my lost freedom, 0.99
00:31:13.480 my bruised body, and my outraged daughters. You will win this battle or perish. That is what I,
00:31:19.640 a woman, plan to do. Let the men live in slavery if they will. And then everybody's like ready to 1.00
00:31:26.920 rumble and the battle began so allegedly bodica's team was so certain of victory that they had
00:31:34.060 brought along their families and children to watch the battle take place which wasn't like
00:31:38.660 apparently this is a thing that maybe people in britain just did in general i this is just not a
00:31:45.420 out of the ordinary sort of thing to have the wives and children but also if you're all just
00:31:48.900 like marching around 300 000 people going place to place burning it's like sure bring your families
00:31:53.520 with you like sort of like star trek the next generation like sometimes you just want to have
00:31:58.080 your family with you when you're going off doing work so this is a situation where we have the like 0.85
00:32:02.880 10 000 romans versus the 300 something thousand ragtag group of boudicca's forces and the thing
00:32:11.880 is that numbers aren't always everything so the roman army was a highly skilled highly trained
00:32:16.860 war machine like they were people who would like they'd run drills like they had tactics they had
00:32:22.660 armor they had plans and were all organized versus bodica's team who had a numbers advantage
00:32:30.740 and rage lots of passion a drive for revenge but they all had sort of like their own fighting style
00:32:36.420 most of which didn't include armor they were all different from all different places there wasn't
00:32:41.940 bodica was the leader but i mean one person can't lead 300 000 people there's probably like all
00:32:47.420 different local leaders and maybe they how do you communicate your plans and stuff so basically
00:32:52.180 despite being massively outnumbered the romans pulled it out to the point that many of bodica's
00:32:56.200 allies began to flee they were trying to escape but tragically all the tents they had set up for
00:33:02.460 their families to watch got in the way and so they got kind of smooshed up against them they
00:33:06.620 weren't able to escape and the romans slaughtered everyone the precise body count is not known
00:33:12.780 because we don't even know where this happened but it might have been something like 80 000 dead
00:33:18.480 Britons and 400 dead Romans. That was a number that was reported by one of the people 100 years
00:33:24.160 later. The rebellion was over. The Romans had won this battle. In the aftermath of this loss,
00:33:32.420 the lands of the Iceni and Trinovantes were destroyed by the Romans. So this is where,
00:33:37.860 again, in a sort of standard war playbook, like you just, the Romans wouldn't have wanted
00:33:44.120 any chance of further rebelling coming from any of these people ever. And then on top of that,
00:33:49.240 many of the tribes had been busy fighting these battles and marching around the whole island.
00:33:54.060 They hadn't had time to plant seeds for the growing season, so meaning that many of those
00:33:57.800 who hadn't died in battle died in a famine that followed right after. Boudicca's daughters,
00:34:03.040 we don't know what happened to them after this. And I mean, we don't know what happened to them
00:34:06.900 before this, really, other than the attack, because there wasn't a lot being written about
00:34:10.660 them because they were not a literate society who wrote stuff down. We only know about Boudica
00:34:15.220 because of her interactions with the Romans. So the daughters, we don't know what happened to them.
00:34:20.300 Boudica herself seems to have died shortly after losing this battle to the Romans. She may have
00:34:27.540 fallen ill. She probably didn't die in battle because if she had, that'd be so dramatic.
00:34:32.500 They would have written about it probably. One of the records suggests she poisoned herself
00:34:36.620 to deny her enemies the pleasure of killing her, which is very Cleopatra of her. The Roman 0.99
00:34:42.680 occupation of Britain lasted until the year 410. So that's, I mean, just under 400 more years.
00:34:50.160 Many of their structures became crucial elements in later battles for the Anglo-Saxon people who
00:34:55.240 sort of were the next ones to take over most of Britain. And there's still evidence of the Roman
00:34:59.760 occupation there today. So this whole thing was kind of a great rebellion. Didn't work,
00:35:06.420 but Boudicca became this great sort of folk hero type person. So most of what we know about her
00:35:13.600 comes from the writings of Tacitus, who Dio also wrote about it, but he was later on.
00:35:19.060 So Tacitus's father-in-law, Agricola, had been governor of Britain a decade after Boudicca's
00:35:25.580 revolt so he might have heard from him some stories about what happened his writings they
00:35:31.040 weren't well known until they were unearthed during the 16th century so that's when queen
00:35:37.920 elizabeth the first became queen of england the first well not the first really really really
00:35:46.480 successful woman monarch in england so she also had red hair she also went into battle so you 0.94
00:35:54.040 could see where she might have wanted to connect herself with bodica to show because when she was 1.00
00:35:59.900 queen as well people were just kind of like a woman leader like i don't know she has like a
00:36:03.920 funny voice and she like has a period every month so just to look at bodica as sort of uh 0.99
00:36:10.220 someone who'd done this before was maybe a way that she could reassure the patriarchal society 1.00
00:36:15.300 she lived in that actually yeah guess what women can do this especially cool red-haired women in 1.00
00:36:20.600 armor. Boudicca's rise to prominence as a sort of British folk hero came during the next most 1.00
00:36:27.660 successful woman ruler in English history, which was Queen Victoria, which is interesting because
00:36:33.920 Victoria is a name that also means victory. So it's, the parallels are even stronger there as
00:36:38.800 well. So Victoria's husband, Prince Albert, commissioned a sculptor named Thomas Thornycroft,
00:36:44.560 great name, to create a bronze statue of Boudicca in her chariot with her two daughters.
00:36:49.720 so Albert was all about horses he was all about statues and again just connecting the current
00:36:55.980 queen to this legendary queen of the past to sort of connect um to connect the current woman leader
00:37:04.980 with a past woman leader to be like look women leaders can be cool sometimes so the statue is 0.95
00:37:10.900 called Bodica and her daughter so actually it's called Bodicea because that was back when there
00:37:15.640 was the spelling mistake in her name so this statue was put up in i think the early 1900s
00:37:21.960 after prince albert had died anyway the statue is very famous i'll put a picture of it on the
00:37:27.020 instagram in case you haven't seen it it was erected in london on westminster bridge near
00:37:31.400 the houses of parliament which is like really interesting so like pause to think about it
00:37:36.460 so bodica who what who she was like what she stood for was anti-imperialist anti-colonial
00:37:44.740 rebel who didn't, right? She became identified with Victoria and with Elizabeth, who were both
00:37:52.640 heads of imperial colonial empires of their own. So Boudicca was just weird that she became
00:38:00.160 identified with them when actually, if she had lived in those days, she would have been against
00:38:03.760 them, basically. But what I find really interesting slash ironic in sort of a
00:38:09.240 Alanis Morissette way is that the statue of Boudicca with her daughters and the horses,
00:38:13.420 it stands guard over london which is the new version of the old city of londondinium which
00:38:19.500 is a city that boudicca famously like thoroughly destroyed and burned down in her quest to for
00:38:25.760 liberation so now the statue is sort of like prince albert erected it to be like look at this cool
00:38:30.800 great leader like britain has this cool history of women leaders when actually it's just like a
00:38:36.180 statue commemorating a woman who burned down the city that they all live in because she hated
00:38:41.020 imperialism colonialism so um just in terms of bibliography here bodica i learned a lot about
00:38:52.720 her so the rex factor podcast is a special episode dedicated to her and i also listened to the um
00:39:00.300 to the you're dead to me podcast about bodica both of which i super recommend i think it's a story
00:39:07.400 that one it cannot be told too many times there's all different angles that you can look at it from
00:39:12.700 those two podcasts get more into like the military details of it and kind of more of like the where
00:39:18.060 in england did this all take place so you can fill in those bits there as well there's a couple of
00:39:23.980 films um there's a 2003 film called warrior queen which stars alex kingston from river song from
00:39:30.220 doctor who is bodica and emily blunt a little baby emily blunt plays one of her daughters and
00:39:36.440 And most of the research I did was from a variety of different historical websites, which I will link to in the show notes.
00:39:43.960 But I want to mention as well, there is a very recent biography of Boudicca called Boudicca, Warrior Woman of Roman Britain by Caitlin C. Gillespie.
00:39:53.020 And you can get that. I'll put a link to it in the show notes if you buy it.
00:39:57.060 If you decide to purchase that, the e-book or the book book or whatever, if you click through the link in the show notes, then some of that,
00:40:04.260 then I get a little monetary bonus so you can support this podcast while also getting a cool
00:40:10.060 book. Speaking of this book, Boudica, Warrior Women of Roman Britain by Caitlin C. Gillespie
00:40:16.880 is also available on Audible. And I've got my little, this is my commercial corner time. If
00:40:24.020 you go to audibletrial.com slash vulgar history, you can get a 30 day free trial of Audible,
00:40:30.320 including getting one free audiobook. And so you could get this Boudicca book and just learn more
00:40:34.880 about her deal and what she was up to. And it's time to score her. And this is an interesting one
00:40:43.020 because, well, so little is known about her and the whole story took place over such a sort of
00:40:48.660 condensed period of time. So the first category is scandalousness. Now, I didn't mention this in
00:40:55.060 the podcast because this was sort of like an overview of her whole situation but the whole
00:41:01.260 killing people brutally and then leaving their dead bodies up as a warning for other people 0.62
00:41:07.100 included some stuff like allegedly she beheaded babies she cut off women's breasts and stuck them 0.98
00:41:14.740 in their mouths and then like threw the dead bodies down so like is that like usually the
00:41:20.240 scandalousness we're looking at in these stories is more like sexy love affair related but like
00:41:27.720 acts of war and terror but other people are doing that too so it's not like bodico is doing stuff
00:41:33.040 that other people weren't doing at the same time and place it's not the fact it was a woman though
00:41:37.780 made it more scandalous so it's a different sort of scandal than what we're usually looking at i'm 0.99
00:41:42.660 going to give her just a four for scandalousness i think maybe there was cool other scandalousness 1.00
00:41:48.880 stuff happening behind the scenes especially when she was living like a roman lady before everything 1.00
00:41:52.900 went to shit but we don't know about it so i can't score her on that scheminess i feel like 0.98
00:41:59.820 is pretty high so for some people when we're grading them on the podcast the scheminess is 0.99
00:42:05.160 like you know gossiping around the court or like making secret plans to like run off with your
00:42:10.940 lover or whatever and those are the schemes they do vodica's scheming is more on par with more like
00:42:16.760 a cleopatra level where it's like making like literal plans for little like war actions like 1.00
00:42:23.080 scheminess and is more sort of like planning ignis but i mean the fact that she got together
00:42:28.920 this band of previously warring factions to like team up and go with her and like burn down
00:42:35.100 three cities like it's more than scheminess it's like cleverness determination ambitiousness but
00:42:43.320 we call it scheminess so i'm gonna call i mean she incited an entire rebellion like i'm gonna
00:42:50.700 give her an eight for scheminess i think and again if we knew more about her maybe i could 1.00
00:42:55.800 give her more if we knew more about like the details of like how she snuck into places and 0.98
00:42:59.720 how she burned down the places and stuff like that significance is a tricky one for her because
00:43:05.360 ultimately what she did didn't win the romans stayed in power for whatever i said before 400
00:43:12.620 more years or something but then she re-emerged as this kind of folk hero a lot of people know
00:43:19.420 who she is um and just she's become sort of almost like a feminist hero just as like a woman 0.54
00:43:26.500 who emerged in a world where not a lot of women were known for doing this sort of stuff but her
00:43:32.360 personal significance i don't know like i feel like because i scored people like cleopatra
00:43:37.940 not super high in significance like how high can i score bodica for the same thing at the same time
00:43:43.860 everybody it's relative isn't it i'm going to give her a five for significance i think and then the
00:43:51.080 final category is the sexism bonus which is where we give points to make up for how much did the 0.98
00:43:57.440 fact that she was a woman affect her life in a negative way and this is where i think if she had
00:44:05.100 been a man things might have turned out i don't know if they would have turned out differently
00:44:09.500 honestly i think obviously the writing about her would have been different um tacitus especially 0.83
00:44:15.280 apparently when he was writing he was writing about how he thought that rome was kind of shitty
00:44:19.400 at this time how um if bodica had been like he was almost cheering for her side because he thought
00:44:27.440 that the like the rome period around when nero was there was really shitty but because she was
00:44:33.640 a woman he was just like oh but she had like a voice that she talked with so i can't super respect
00:44:39.180 her like i think her her historical record would have been different if she was a man and i don't 1.00
00:44:45.820 know but then like part of what happened was like she was driven to this point by the the sexualized 1.00
00:44:54.540 gender-based attack on her and her daughters i'm gonna give her a six six for sexism i think
00:45:01.300 so let's just add this all up so we've got 23 points for Boudicca so that puts her I mean again
00:45:09.980 the scoring why am I doing this it's a nice way to wrap things up and also to just sort of
00:45:14.740 see where people land on a scale compared to each other not that anyone is better than anybody else
00:45:20.580 but it's just kind of like where where do they land comparatively so Boudicca she's at 23 that
00:45:26.120 puts her above both Carolina Frenzwick and Mary Toft, who both had 20, and that she's just a bit 0.88
00:45:32.340 below Frances Howard, who had 26. Tits out Frances Howard. I mean, come on. So considering how little 1.00
00:45:39.780 we know about Boudicca, I think that's a pretty fair score. And had we known more about her,
00:45:45.460 it might have been higher. Who knows? And I guess that's the episode. So if you want to
00:45:53.080 catch up with me i mean there's the whole season one you can listen to there's a previous episodes
00:45:58.900 of season two there's more season two episodes to come and vulgar history is all over the place so
00:46:05.040 we're on twitter and instagram just look up vulgar history we are there if you want to like email me
00:46:10.840 if you have thoughts about things about women or if you want to discuss the score i gave somebody
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00:46:21.200 you think it would be cool for me to write about, you can reach out at vulgarhistorypod
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00:46:43.880 and do up a little Audible trial. You can get a book about Boudicca, for instance, or Another
00:46:48.860 a woman from history. And also we got a little bonus from there, or you can just straight up
00:46:53.540 support the podcast at patreon.com slash Anne Foster writer. And I believe this is being posted
00:47:01.780 on March 11th. So coming up super soon, I'm going to be doing a March madness thing on Twitter. So
00:47:08.520 if you follow me at vulgar history on Twitter, you can see all the information about that. But
00:47:13.840 what is going to be happening is it's a vulgar madness. So I've made up a list of 64 of the most
00:47:20.560 scandalous women from all world history, not from just British history, which is what a lot of these 0.65
00:47:27.740 podcast episodes are about from all over the place, all different countries. And it's divided 0.99
00:47:32.020 into four brackets by the ancient world, medieval, the Renaissance, and then modern, the modern
00:47:37.940 period. So it goes from the minuses, like before the year zero, all the way up to 1900 because I
00:47:44.280 had to cut it off at some point. So I would say follow me on Twitter just to get the details of
00:47:48.600 that. I think I should be getting it all started probably, again, it's March 11th when you're
00:47:53.940 listening to this. So I think probably this weekend coming up. Keep your eyes peeled for that.
00:47:58.660 And that's the episode. So I hope you enjoyed yourselves and I'll talk to you all next time.
00:48:07.940 so for some of the other revisited episodes where I feel like it's warranted
00:48:16.440 I will reassess the score of the people but I feel I feel I would probably give Boudicca a
00:48:22.500 similar score now what I do want to add though is that I recently came back from a trip and part of
00:48:30.200 my trip was I was in London and I had hoped like I had like my tier one things I wanted to see
00:48:36.080 And then, you know, if I had the time or the energy, I would see some other things.
00:48:39.520 And some Boudicca stuff was on my list, but I didn't get around to it this time.
00:48:43.060 But for sure, I'm going to go back to London.
00:48:44.960 But if you're there, if you're passing through, you can see there's the Boudicca statue.
00:48:49.260 There's also some places where you can see the ruins of some Roman things.
00:48:53.760 There's an amphitheater in the basement of a museum.
00:48:56.820 One of the subway stations, there's like a bit of ancient Roman wall there.
00:49:00.000 And then I think it's outside of London, but somewhere.
00:49:02.480 Someone who lives near there, tell me about it.
00:49:04.040 but you can see like some evidence of the ashes from when Bortico's burning it all down.
00:49:09.640 Anyway, like she, her memory lives on and like the statue honors her and stuff. But like
00:49:17.240 the fact that there's these like ashes of when she burned down London, I mean, pretty amazing.
00:49:22.640 So what I also wanted to tell you, my other announcement is that coming up next week,
00:49:27.560 we're jumping back into season seven. How do you solve a problem like Marie Antoinette?
00:49:31.820 and season seven part two so season seven part one we were looking at a lot of american revolution
00:49:37.360 themed things season seven part two we're looking at some french revolution stuff i kind of in the
00:49:43.700 back of my head i'm thinking of this season seven part two is like meanwhile back in france and just
00:49:49.460 kind of seeing what people are up to there and i've got such an exciting guest for next week's
00:49:55.660 episode you're not even prepared for how exciting this guest is going to be but it's somebody who's
00:50:00.800 not been on the podcast before, uh, not for lack of her and me trying to schedule something for
00:50:06.460 ages, but we're getting into the French revolution, the Versailles of it all. And that's really
00:50:10.940 her, like that's for her, like what Mary Queen of Scots is for me. So I'm really excited to have
00:50:15.720 this person on next week and you find out who it is soon enough. I also wanted to mention,
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00:51:09.220 that's a silly thing to say. That's two silly things to say. People who've listened to this 0.96
00:51:14.640 podcast will be aware of the amount of research that I do. But also this isn't for anyone who
00:51:21.360 takes history seriously, I think is a fair thing to say. I think I, like lots of other podcasts,
00:51:27.300 like the Queens podcast with Katie and Nathan, or like you're dead to me with Greg Jenner,
00:51:32.200 or even some of the history hit podcasts, like history, when you make history fun,
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00:52:14.280 i'm recording this it's like september i like princess diana season of like the oversized
00:52:18.860 sweatshirt with the bicycle shorts but the oversight sweatshirt is like the varsity like
00:52:23.820 it has the name of a university it's got that so i feel like for back to school it's good and i've
00:52:27.700 never actually done merch before that just says vulgar history on it everything always has some
00:52:31.560 sort of like very wildly specific in joke but this is you can get i'm gonna say sweatshirt is what
00:52:37.180 i'm personally gonna get but you've got your varsity theme mug stickers whatever magnets pins
00:52:43.620 um but what it says is vulgar history not taking history seriously since 2019 because that is it
00:52:50.280 is also coming up our anniversary of this podcast november 2019 is when it started so anyway if you
00:52:56.900 want to support this podcast first of all a free thing you can do is just leave a nice little
00:53:01.160 comment or review wherever you're listening and if you want to uh provide well i mean if you want
00:53:07.240 to like rep vulgar history and slash also in a monetary way support this podcast you can go
00:53:13.580 to our merch stores if you're in the u.s you can just go to vulgarhistory.com slash store which
00:53:21.260 takes you to our t public store where you can find that design and put it on a t-shirt or a mug or a
00:53:25.760 sticker or whatever you want if you're outside the u.s i recommend our red bubble store which is
00:53:30.420 vulgarhistory.redbubble.com and the difference between the stores is just shipping red bubble
00:53:34.960 shipping is better for non-us people and yeah i mean those are is that is that not enough news for
00:53:42.400 you. Season seven, part two starts next week. Amazing guests coming up and new merch. And
00:53:49.280 actually, yeah, I was going to say something else, but that'll be a surprise for later.
00:53:54.680 So the other things I like to tell you about, or just to tell you for the first time, which
00:53:58.600 reminds you about is that I do have a sub stack, which is like a newsletter and it's free.
00:54:02.840 And so that's every other week I send out an essay about a woman from history, a woman or
00:54:09.080 another interesting person from history right now i'm doing a series i call difficult women so
00:54:13.400 you'll recognize a lot of these people i have done podcasts about them but if you want to read about
00:54:16.880 it essay style um you can subscribe to that evokehistory.substack.com i also have a patreon
00:54:24.140 and so patreon is a place where if you well you know different levels so if you want to support
00:54:29.960 the podcast financially in another way so patreon so if you go to patreon.com slash ann foster
00:54:35.840 a writer. My name is Ann Foster. I'm a writer. That's why it's called that. So if you pledge
00:54:39.800 $1 per month, like it's an ongoing donation type thing, then you get early ad free access to all
00:54:45.620 episodes of the podcast. And sometimes I see like what other people are doing on Patreon and I'm
00:54:51.620 like, Ooh, that's a good idea or whatever. And I'm like a dollar a month for early ad free access
00:54:55.680 is like, I want to keep that price point because I want to keep that as attainable as possible for
00:55:00.600 as many people as possible. And then if you want to step up from there, if you pledge $5 or more,
00:55:05.720 a month, you get access to the early Ed Free Access, as well as you can access our bonus
00:55:10.760 episodes, which are the spin-off podcast, So Vulgar Peace Theater, which is these two
00:55:16.020 to three hour long episodes where myself, Alison Epstein, and Lana Wood Johnson talk
00:55:20.440 about costume dramas.
00:55:22.080 We talk about movies.
00:55:23.420 It's a movie recap podcast, and we have an awful lot of fun doing it.
00:55:26.660 And then also for the $5 a month or more people, I have episodes, So This Asshole, where I 0.98
00:55:33.220 talk about shitty men from history. 0.96
00:55:34.740 and then also the after show where sometimes people like next week's special guest where I 0.85
00:55:40.140 just really I don't want us to be distracted during the recording of the episode with other
00:55:44.640 topics so I put the after show that's where we just like kiki me and a guest you know if just
00:55:49.720 that I can keep the episode as like focused as possible and that's patreon you can also join
00:55:54.100 patreon for free and so what you get when you join patreon for free is that you get just the
00:56:00.080 posts that I post there so for instance I've been doing all these um travel blogs about my
00:56:04.420 recent Journée. I visited Edinburgh, Scotland. I visited Braunschweig, Germany, and I visited
00:56:10.640 London, England. And for every museum and every like park I visited, I wrote like a travel blog
00:56:14.800 and that's all free. So you can become a free Patreon member just to see the stuff like that
00:56:19.060 that I'm posting there as well. And one of the reasons I started posting more stuff on Patreon
00:56:23.820 is because algorithms just kind of like, fuck with me. Not personally. Like they just like 0.98
00:56:29.440 mess with my mind. I can't get it. Everyone's always like saying like, here's the secret
00:56:32.500 you can get like game algorithm or whatever. And I'm like, I just want the people who follow this
00:56:37.280 podcast who want to see my pictures. I just want those people to see my pictures. And so that's
00:56:41.840 why I'm posting them for free on Patreon. But I am also on Instagram doing my best. So if you go
00:56:46.500 to Instagram, I'm also on threads at vulgarhistorypod. And if you feel like you want to get in touch
00:56:51.440 with me, if you have some feedback or ideas or whatever, go to vulgarhistory.com and there's a
00:56:57.140 little contact me form. And that's how you can like share your thoughts with me. And we also
00:57:02.340 have a beautiful, gorgeous brand partner, Common Era Jewelry. So Common Era Jewelry is a small
00:57:09.140 business. It's a woman owned business and they make beautiful jewelry that is inspired by women
00:57:15.440 from history, as well as women from classical mythology. And I'm just double checking. Yeah.
00:57:22.480 boudica is there you can get there's a boudica ring you can get the boudica pendant and so the
00:57:29.460 jewelry the necklaces are available in um you can get them in gold and you can also get them in
00:57:36.220 more affordable gold vermeil and vulgar history listeners can always get 15 off your whole order
00:57:43.520 from common era by going to commonera.com slash vulgar or use the code vulgar at checkout and
00:57:48.360 actually Tori, who's the owner, she just came out with a new design, which is Cassandra from 0.97
00:57:53.520 Mythology, the one who people didn't listen to her. And she was always right. And that's just
00:57:58.880 honestly, always a vibe. Anyway, so go to commonera.com slash vulgar or just use code
00:58:04.480 vulgar at checkout to get 15% off your order from there. Anyway, next week, season seven,
00:58:10.120 part two, we're diving back into the world of Marie Antoinette, getting circling ever closer
00:58:15.240 to her our heroine of the season because we're going to be like literally in versailles next 0.98
00:58:21.020 week so until then my friends keep your pants on and your tits out vulgar history is researched 0.98
00:58:28.500 written and hosted by ann foster that's me the editor is christina lumaghi theme music is by 0.99
00:58:35.020 the severin duo the vulgar history show image is by deborah wong transcripts are written by
00:58:40.760 Aveline Malik. Find transcripts of recent episodes at vulgarhistory.com.
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