For The Wild - August 30, 2017


THERESA TWO BULLS on Uniting to Reclaim the Black Hills ⧸50

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00:00:00.000 The silence is broken by somebody crying, trying to be heard, never a word, always the attitude, sort out your own, always alone, wishing for something the world is denying.
00:00:25.000 Out in the wilderness somebody's crying
00:00:29.800 Somebody wishing for something to happen
00:00:43.100 Wishing to tell, wishing to help
00:00:46.540 Someone was listening, someone who cared
00:00:50.340 Never despaired
00:00:52.200 Someone to lean on and someone to trust
00:00:56.860 Who needs your assistance and finds your disguise
00:01:00.900 Hello and welcome to For the Wild podcast. I'm Ayanna Young.
00:01:15.080 Today we will be speaking with Teresa Tubles in collaboration with the Unity concert
00:01:20.920 that's held in the Black Hills of South Dakota.
00:01:25.080 All donations made to the For the Wild podcast between now and the event,
00:01:31.400 which will be through September 8th, will go directly towards the Unity concert.
00:01:36.920 Teresa Tuples is an attorney, prosecutor, and politician in the United States and the Oglala Sioux Tribe. 0.56
00:01:44.780 In 2004, she was elected as Democratic member of the South Dakota Senate, 0.98
00:01:49.260 representing the 27th district she was also the first american indian woman to be elected to the 0.99
00:01:55.260 state legislature she served until 2008 that year tubals was also elected as president of the
00:02:02.520 okalala sioux tribe of the pine ridge reservation the second woman to serve in this position
00:02:07.760 she is also a respected elder and organizer for the unity concert hello theresa hello thank you
00:02:16.980 for joining us today. We are truly honored. I'd like to begin by just expressing my gratitude
00:02:25.540 and respect for you and for the great land base that has evolved under the loving care of your
00:02:32.800 people over many thousands of years. Thank you. And also my sorrow and camaraderie before the
00:02:41.500 fact that nearly all of that land has been stolen and damaged just as the culture and language of
00:02:49.160 the Lakota was met by that death urge of the colonists. So thank you for your courage and
00:02:57.720 service of resistance and I'm greatly looking forward to hearing from you about the challenges
00:03:04.480 that you've risen to overcome
00:03:05.780 and how you came to this path
00:03:08.780 and also
00:03:10.180 what do you see as
00:03:12.340 a viable way to take back
00:03:14.480 the sacred black hills of your people
00:03:16.460 once and for all
00:03:18.020 I just came involved
00:03:23.820 when I start working for Mario Gonzalez
00:03:26.900 the tribal attorney
00:03:28.400 when he was doing a
00:03:30.180 lawsuit
00:03:31.080 and that's when my interest
00:03:33.600 grew for, you know, the history of the Black Hills and the court battle and how we were
00:03:40.560 treated, how our land was taken away, how we were colonized.
00:03:45.340 We couldn't practice our sacred ceremonies or even go to our sacred sites to pray.
00:03:53.420 And it kind of made me feel bad.
00:03:55.940 And so I took it a step further when I became involved in tribal government where I was in positions where I could work with others to make a difference, to change that.
00:04:11.400 But first of all, we had to educate our own people because of the colonization, the generation that came forward.
00:04:22.020 We lost a lot of that history. 0.60
00:04:23.980 A lot of our traditions, the meaning of our culture and our traditions, our sacred ceremonies, even other ceremonies, right?
00:04:37.620 They talk about throwing the ball and what girls do when they become women, what boys do when they become men.
00:04:45.040 All of that education has kind of been put in the back of our minds because of the colonization.
00:04:52.540 And so today, there's a lot of our people that learned all of this through our ancestors, through our grandparents, but really never spoke about all of this.
00:05:06.560 But now they're bringing everything out.
00:05:08.740 And I really applaud them and thank them for having all this knowledge about our history and our culture and our traditions to bring up forward now.
00:05:18.120 Because this younger generation is really eager to learn.
00:05:21.900 They want to know who they are, where they came from.
00:05:26.280 You know, we always say that because of the trauma of the boarding school days, all of that history was kind of put on hold, put in the back of people's minds.
00:05:35.360 And they weren't allowed to talk about it or to practice, so that just carried on throughout the years.
00:05:41.120 And so now coming to our generation, we realize that, you know, the battle of the Wounded Knee, there's other battles, a little Bitcoin battle, you know, there's more battles than what is put down in the white man's history that our people know about, our nation, the great nation knows about.
00:06:00.820 And so we're hoping that all this comes out now so we can start educating our younger generation and our younger children to be proud of who they are and where they come from and be proud of being a Lakota.
00:06:16.880 And that's where I've stepped in working with Loretta Cook and different people to educate our people.
00:06:25.660 You know, we grew up, we watched a movie, we were cheering for the cowboys instead of the Indians. 0.93
00:06:31.680 You know, that's how colonized we became. 0.95
00:06:33.800 And I myself was guilt-tale that I was cheering for the cowboys, you know, when I was in grade school and watching movies and stuff.
00:06:40.360 But as I got older, you know, we're just as equal as them.
00:06:45.200 We have history, and we need to bring our history forward.
00:06:49.840 It's a good history.
00:06:50.580 Our people were really kind, compassionate, loving people, and our ways were awesome.
00:07:00.480 They kept everybody together.
00:07:04.200 We talk about the circle in our history that everything happens in a circle, and in everything we do, we remember that circle.
00:07:13.000 So in our daily lives, you're born, you go around that circle, and then you pass on to the spirit world. 0.92
00:07:21.180 But within that time, they teach us to live our traditions, live our culture, live the colonized life.
00:07:30.460 And a lot of people are saying, today a lot of them are saying, how do we decolonize ourselves?
00:07:36.800 How do we go back to what our ancestors have brought us this far with?
00:07:41.540 And I really want to stress and express my gratitude to one of our knowledgeable elderly men, Johnson, Holy Rock.
00:07:50.980 He was our tribal president.
00:07:53.560 His family were survivors of the Wounded Knee Massacre, and he really had a lot of knowledge and experience.
00:08:03.080 He was a little boy when that happened, and he told us that we talk about going back to the old ways.
00:08:10.020 You know, that's impossible. We can't go back to living in teepees and hunting the buffalo because the government already took the buffalo away from us.
00:08:19.440 But we can educate each other, our families and our relatives and our nation on how they live back there in harmony and in peace and helping each other and not this hate and jealousy and what's going on today where we fight among each other and among ourselves.
00:08:41.740 and that isn't the Lakota way.
00:08:44.800 And I wish you could have heard a lot of the stuff that he said
00:08:48.500 that really made sense and made me to be proud of who I am.
00:08:53.680 Satsang with Mooji
00:09:23.680 This will happen overnight like 16 seconds. 0.89
00:09:44.660 Why did that work? 1.00
00:09:48.620 No first, this was the Brian of India 1.00
00:09:58.660 and his brother took his life… 0.93
00:10:01.960 then taking care of him… 0.70
00:10:05.900 Nubanish to apartheid of city. 0.92
00:10:14.660 I would just let you know what I've been experiencing,
00:10:24.620 what I've been going through.
00:10:26.360 My father and my mother were fluent Lakota speakers,
00:10:31.680 and we've lost our language.
00:10:34.020 The younger generation is realizing how important it is
00:10:37.100 to have our language and have our culture and our traditions
00:10:40.680 in order for us to survive.
00:10:42.180 And it really makes me feel good when you hear these younger children here speaking our language.
00:10:49.220 My mother was from the eastern part of the state, and she'd spoken a B dialect.
00:10:55.020 And my father was from here in primary reservation, and he spoke the L.
00:11:00.220 And there really wasn't that much difference in the meanings of the words, but there was a little difference.
00:11:06.380 And I was kind of third to the youngest of nine children, and my oldest siblings talked and understood, and then the middle ones understood, and us younger ones, we didn't.
00:11:18.900 I wished I would have learned how to understand and to speak the language, but we didn't have that opportunity.
00:11:25.280 My mother was working for the government.
00:11:27.800 She was a cook.
00:11:29.340 My father was working for the government.
00:11:31.460 He worked for the Bureau of Utilities here in Pine Ridge.
00:11:35.760 And so they were working parents and we went to school every day and our language, our culture wasn't taught in the school those days back then when I was a young child.
00:11:45.440 So being married to a fluent Lakota speaker, he really helped me to where I could understand, but not to speak the language.
00:11:56.160 And we fear that once we lose the language, we're no more.
00:11:59.460 but today they do have Lakota language in our schools,
00:12:04.840 but it's one or two hours a week.
00:12:08.080 And so being in the position as vice president of Oguawasu tribe
00:12:12.780 and the president, I've always encouraged the elderly
00:12:16.160 and the older adults to teach your children the language
00:12:20.240 because that's where it has to be learned is at home.
00:12:23.480 Yes, we have the schools that offer it, but it has to be continuous.
00:12:28.740 repetitive in order for our children
00:12:31.100 and us as adults to learn our language
00:12:33.340 so a lot has been
00:12:35.100 changed from back when our ancestors
00:12:37.100 to today
00:12:37.940 but we still have
00:12:40.480 knowledge of our traditions
00:12:43.340 and our culture, we still have our language
00:12:45.600 sometimes
00:12:47.160 I wish we could be like the Navajo tribe 0.93
00:12:49.360 where all their members
00:12:51.340 can speak their language
00:12:52.640 every one of their members
00:12:54.560 because that's all they talk
00:12:56.000 and they all know it
00:12:57.820 And there was a time when we were like that, 0.99
00:13:00.160 but now I don't think there's that many full-bloods either. 1.00
00:13:04.840 I think we don't have that many, but we're trying.
00:13:08.940 We're trying to revive everything and bring everything back,
00:13:13.160 and the only way to do that is to work together,
00:13:16.000 to collaborate with each other,
00:13:18.220 and come up with a way to bring our culture and traditions back to light here.
00:13:25.460 It's really hard.
00:13:26.740 I worked with Loretta and Leonard Losinger and Richard Broken Nose, all the elderly men, the treaty council. 0.57
00:13:36.820 I had the opportunity to sit in these meetings regarding the treaties.
00:13:42.600 I was told it was the supreme law of the land.
00:13:47.240 It's in the U.S. Constitution.
00:13:49.040 It's never been repealed.
00:13:51.060 It's there.
00:13:52.020 and being in those positions.
00:13:54.680 I also, when I went to Washington, D.C.,
00:13:56.860 I would remind Congress about that.
00:14:00.140 It's still the supreme law of the land.
00:14:02.900 You need to respect us and work with us as a nation to nation
00:14:07.220 because of the Constitution,
00:14:09.800 and we're willing to work with anybody and everybody.
00:14:13.500 Let's work on the same ground of helping each other
00:14:16.300 instead of cutting our funding to all our programs,
00:14:22.140 our education, our health care, our land.
00:14:26.040 Because of the treaties, we get these federal dollars,
00:14:28.560 but every year they go down and they cut and cut.
00:14:32.080 Today, we have never gotten 100% funding
00:14:35.520 from the federal government on these programs.
00:14:39.860 And that makes me feel sad,
00:14:43.080 especially working here today in the health care field.
00:14:46.300 We're seeing that a lot of our people are suffering and are dying from diabetes, cancer, a heart, you know, just because there's no money available.
00:14:57.200 There's just little enough money, but not enough to help our people to have better health care.
00:15:04.100 We're trying the best we can, but it also has to go back to the federal government.
00:15:09.940 I've expressed my concern on the billions of dollars they give to the foreign countries.
00:15:15.840 and I know they have money at the end of the year, surplus money.
00:15:21.580 You know, why can't they give that to the tribes across the United States
00:15:25.280 and Alaska to help instead of keeping us down, you know, under their thumb?
00:15:31.440 You know, where is their compassion?
00:15:33.420 Where is their, in our language, you say,
00:15:36.100 helping each other and being there for each other
00:15:40.460 and putting aside the jealousy and the hatred?
00:15:43.380 because we all live on this earth.
00:15:46.080 We live on Uchimaka, all of us.
00:15:48.720 And if anything ever happens to her, we're all going to be gone.
00:15:51.840 Nobody's going to be here.
00:15:53.700 And that's the way I try to tell people, you know, we're going to be here.
00:15:57.920 We have to work with the state of South Dakota.
00:16:00.660 I think we're one of the few states where we don't even have a good relationship
00:16:06.140 with the state of South Dakota.
00:16:08.540 You know, we're always having to fight with them
00:16:11.020 and try to talk to them and tell them we have to work together.
00:16:15.740 I had to even explain to our people, the Lakota people,
00:16:20.180 that we have to work with them.
00:16:22.060 No matter what, you know, we have to work with them.
00:16:25.080 We have to come to an understanding on how we can help each other.
00:16:28.960 You know, none of this, I'm better than you.
00:16:32.140 You know, I control the money.
00:16:34.600 Why can't we all control the money and help each other
00:16:37.480 instead of giving piecemeal just to address our education and our health care.
00:16:43.700 I really feel bad about our sacred sites also.
00:16:47.640 We have a lot of sacred sites, but we have to pay to go to these sacred sites
00:16:53.480 where a long time ago, you know, our people just traveled, went to these sacred sites,
00:17:00.580 camp did the ceremonies there we're always thankful to to the creator for having these
00:17:09.240 sacred sites and the meaning of them and and we know the meaning of these sacred sites we know
00:17:15.080 why they were there but yet the federal government looks at them as money-making places and they want
00:17:22.260 to take away everything from us it's not working you know being in tribal government and looking
00:17:28.740 at the outside world instead of just being on the reservation
00:17:32.200 and being able to look outside the big window
00:17:35.160 and seeing what's going on out there, it makes me feel bad.
00:17:39.100 This time I cry when we hear how our people are being mistreated.
00:17:44.540 We have knowledgeable children that need a better education
00:17:49.980 that can make something of themselves.
00:17:52.520 We have scientists, we have lawyers, we have doctors,
00:17:55.680 people with good education
00:17:58.320 and good careers
00:18:00.180 they want to come back to the
00:18:02.200 reservations and help our people 1.00
00:18:03.900 but when they do come back to the
00:18:06.300 reservation the money isn't there
00:18:08.380 they have their heart
00:18:10.560 and their mind to come
00:18:12.520 back and help our people but
00:18:14.340 it's really hard when we're
00:18:16.200 held out because of the funding
00:18:18.400 because of the program
00:18:19.740 this is what
00:18:22.400 I see
00:18:23.420 and what I've been experiencing.
00:18:26.740 And so working with Loretta and them, again,
00:18:29.700 we try to bring programs and work with other organizations
00:18:34.400 outside of tribal government, outside of the federal government.
00:18:39.420 In fact, internationally, there's a lot of people out there
00:18:43.380 that want to help us and support us in getting our Black Hills back,
00:18:49.300 our sacred Black Hills back.
00:18:50.840 I really thank them for that, you know, bringing the awareness, and that's part of why the Unity Concert was developed, was to bring everybody to one place, to the Sacred Black Guild, you know, have this concert to talk about and sing about Uchimaka, our ways, our traditions,
00:19:16.660 and let the people know internationally and nationally that we are a nation
00:19:23.760 and we need to work with each other and other nations in order to survive here on Uchimaka.
00:19:32.300 Our ways are really beautiful.
00:19:35.660 You know, we've got a lot of other people that participate in our ceremonies, our dances.
00:19:42.060 and I know some of them that practice our ways
00:19:46.300 and are at peace with themselves
00:19:48.320 and that really makes me feel good
00:19:50.660 because they look at me as a person
00:19:53.520 knowing that they could talk to me
00:19:56.620 and I can talk to them
00:19:58.580 and there's no barriers there
00:20:00.060 there's no racism there
00:20:01.640 they just see me as a person
00:20:04.540 and I see them as a person
00:20:05.940 and we can get along and we can talk
00:20:08.920 And that needs to be clear across the board with everybody.
00:20:18.120 This Unity Concert has opened a lot of eyes to the outside people, knowing that we're here, we're willing to work with everybody.
00:20:31.220 We want to make life better for not only ourselves and our future generations, but for all mankind.
00:20:38.920 That's how it was in the past and it could be that way today if we just put our heads together and came up with solutions and how we can make this big, big change.
00:20:53.140 I'm not blaming just the federal government, but we are south of the nation, the Great Sioux Nation.
00:21:00.460 And, you know, we have different bands.
00:21:02.820 We need to all work together and learn how to get along and help each other.
00:21:10.120 When I was tribal chairperson, we have the Great Plains Tribal Chairman's Association, which I was chairwoman of.
00:21:18.640 And I talked to the other chairmen and chairwoman, and I told them, I said, you know, we need to start looking at not what the federal government wants,
00:21:29.740 where they put the money in a pot
00:21:31.260 and then they make the tribes fight over that dollars.
00:21:35.080 And that's what turns each tribe against each other.
00:21:39.140 I said we could have that money put in a pot. 0.88
00:21:41.880 We could have one tribe.
00:21:43.700 Maybe the next time help another tribe.
00:21:46.500 I know we all have needs.
00:21:48.840 We all have wants.
00:21:51.200 But if we could just help each other get back on our feet
00:21:54.240 and work together,
00:21:57.000 we could become a stronger nation.
00:22:02.180 These are just my personal thoughts and ideas
00:22:05.740 and what I've been going through.
00:22:08.140 At one time, I was even a state senator,
00:22:12.640 and there's really a lack of communication
00:22:16.240 even in the state of South Dakota in the Senate.
00:22:20.960 It was really an experience to me,
00:22:24.220 You know, being up there and seeing that they really need to be educated about Native Americans.
00:22:32.740 You know, that when I went to D.C., I was even asked if we still lived in teepees.
00:22:36.980 And I had to tell them, no, normal houses, just like yours.
00:22:41.140 We pay bills just like you.
00:22:43.820 You know, we work so we can support our families.
00:22:47.920 We're no different than you.
00:22:49.480 and I even asked some of the Congress people
00:22:52.780 to come down to the reservations and visit
00:22:55.200 come and see what we're all about
00:22:57.320 and you know that's just extending a hand to them
00:23:02.020 to come and see, come and visit
00:23:03.880 and get to know us so we can get to know you also
00:23:07.360 because history has really caused a big split
00:23:11.420 among the nations and it shouldn't have been that way
00:23:14.940 because once you find out the truth
00:23:16.860 And the truth is that we can all get along.
00:23:20.680 We can all help each other.
00:23:46.860 Never turn back
00:23:50.860 No more
00:23:54.860 No more
00:23:58.860 Be me
00:24:12.860 Thank you.
00:24:42.860 you were talking about getting back up on your feet as a tribe and other tribes
00:24:53.780 i would love if you could share a little bit more about that vision if the original treaty
00:25:00.660 of fort laramie which clearly marked the boundaries of the lakota nation and acknowledged
00:25:06.520 its sovereignty. So if that treaty was actually upheld and the Black Hills and surrounding lands
00:25:13.020 were returned to the hands of the Lakota, how do you envision such a transition happening? 0.85
00:25:20.780 You know, there was the 1851 treaty lands and then it went down to the 1868, which
00:25:26.200 diminished our land base. And today in the 21st century, you know, we had an effort which
00:25:35.240 went down to the wire and President Obama was going out of office.
00:25:40.680 We gave him some documents and we came up with this idea.
00:25:45.500 We had the paperwork put together and everything where President Obama
00:25:49.300 could grant that the sacred sites could be given back to the Native Americans.
00:25:56.540 And that was our last effort to try to get something done
00:26:00.180 during President Obama's administration.
00:26:02.600 And, you know, we have to be realistic here.
00:26:07.820 If the lands are given back, it's not going to be our original boundaries.
00:26:12.720 So much has changed since then.
00:26:15.560 We even had a movement asking for the unused federal lands to be given back to the tribes
00:26:22.680 so we could go to these sacred sites.
00:26:25.340 We could go to the sacred Black Hills and pray and do our ceremonies.
00:26:29.780 And there was even Lionel Bordeaux, chairperson of the college in Rosebud, wanting to open a university free to our children so that they could get education that they wanted and, you know, become doctors and lawyers and scientists and whatever, you know, even astronauts or surgeons or whatever.
00:26:54.080 That was one of the goals.
00:26:55.680 We had meetings in all the reservations here, Pine Ridge, Rosebud, Cheyenne River, Standing Rock.
00:27:03.280 We went around to these reservations and we had meetings and we invited the elderly, the treaty council, the youth.
00:27:09.820 We even invited tribal councils, let's put our heads together and we put paper on the walls and we divided them in groups.
00:27:18.320 You talk about the land, you talk about the water, the air, education, law enforcement.
00:27:25.320 We had all these topics, and they had such good ideas on what they wanted to do, what we could do.
00:27:32.540 Once we got those lands returned back to us, and we did that throughout the reservations.
00:27:39.260 And, you know, it's sad when you're trying to do something, and then your term as tribal president or whatever runs out, and you're not reelected.
00:27:49.400 But our plan, since I wasn't re-elected in 2010, we went ahead and continued on the vision that I saw where we were all going to work together.
00:28:02.600 We're going to all come together and work on getting the Black Hills back.
00:28:08.520 But we had to be in unison on how we were going to do that
00:28:12.720 because in 2008, when the Sioux Tribes met with President Obama's people,
00:28:19.060 the message he gave us was that, you know,
00:28:21.300 he would consider giving them Black children back.
00:28:24.220 But first he wanted us all to be in agreement,
00:28:27.340 to come up with one plan where we were going to all work together
00:28:30.800 and what we were going to do once we got the Black children back.
00:28:34.140 and that we tried to work towards, but because of this colonization
00:28:39.340 and because of the jealousy and distrust,
00:28:43.720 we couldn't get the tribes together,
00:28:45.980 especially the tribal council and the treaty council.
00:28:49.000 So we went a step further and we came up with another plan
00:28:52.020 and we asked the communities, the people, the youth, the elderly,
00:28:59.820 the teachers, everybody, everybody to come together
00:29:03.160 and let's come up with a plan.
00:29:06.020 We didn't stop.
00:29:07.420 Once the idea came and we pushed it as far as we could,
00:29:11.000 we even invited and involved the other tribes.
00:29:14.200 And, you know, the Yankton Sioux tribe,
00:29:16.840 they already accepted a payment from the Black Hills,
00:29:20.980 and my staff wanted to know if we exclude them.
00:29:24.900 So I said, no, they're still part of the 1868 treaty.
00:29:28.160 They still signed it.
00:29:29.480 They're still a part of us.
00:29:31.400 So we included them.
00:29:33.160 You know, we included them in every effort that we put forth to getting the Black Kemp back. 0.99
00:29:43.140 And believe me, it's really a struggle.
00:29:48.500 It's really a struggle working with our own people on getting them to see the vision of how it would be if we got that land back, what we could do with it.
00:30:00.320 Because all these years, the timber, the water, the land, you know, the federal government taking all of that away from us, you know, and not giving us one red cent of it instead of giving it to the county, to the state, to everybody but the rightful owners of the Black Hills.
00:30:20.660 and it's discouraging but yet it makes you want to work even harder on how can we come up with
00:30:28.260 these ideas and these plans. My vision is it's going to happen one of these days
00:30:35.360 and the reason why I say that is because before we started this effort in 2009,
00:30:42.600 my staff and I were sitting there in the office and we were talking about this, how we're going
00:30:47.360 to go about it you know that the tribal council took action in 1980 to support mario and filing
00:30:56.120 those lawsuits and they passed a resolution saying that the black hills were not for sale
00:31:03.400 and that's where it ended in 1980 and there was no action in between the treaty councils met
00:31:09.380 they came up with resolutions they sent them to dc but never once did we ever hear word back on
00:31:16.640 even acknowledging that they received
00:31:19.640 the correspondence from these treaty
00:31:21.420 councils so when I took
00:31:23.460 office in 2008 we thought
00:31:25.580 we would revive that again
00:31:27.140 we
00:31:29.300 acted
00:31:31.480 on the Black Hills for Sale resolution
00:31:33.700 we reaffirmed it
00:31:34.860 and then we went a step further and we had
00:31:37.400 a news conference we invited
00:31:39.600 everybody to come and
00:31:41.020 we made a statement that
00:31:43.620 we were going to come up
00:31:45.620 with some plan on how to work together as a great Sioux nation to get the black 0.62
00:31:51.500 tails back, to work towards getting the black tails back.
00:31:54.900 Then, of course, there's this jealousy and, you know, the men said,
00:32:00.000 we are the ones that signed the treaty. 1.00
00:32:02.340 You women have no business. 1.00
00:32:04.220 And, you know, it was among our staff that hurts us. 1.00
00:32:08.240 But I told the men that were there, we had Chief Oliver Redcord there,
00:32:12.720 Joe American Horse, who is a descendant of Chief American Horse.
00:32:17.020 We had different people there, and I told him, I said,
00:32:21.040 you know, we as women, we're here to help you.
00:32:24.140 We're here to stand beside you and help you.
00:32:27.460 A man and a woman working together really brings balance
00:32:30.760 to the efforts that we're trying to do.
00:32:34.000 Because in our history, in our tradition, 1.00
00:32:36.940 the women are the ones that run the household. 0.98
00:32:40.320 They're the ones that keep the family together.
00:32:42.720 and the men are the protectors, the men are the warriors,
00:32:46.520 so let's put our minds together and work together.
00:32:50.200 One of them said, well, if we get to meet with President Obama, 1.00
00:32:54.100 you women aren't going to go.
00:32:56.020 And so I told him, I said, I have no intentions as a tribal president
00:33:00.100 to meet with President Obama.
00:33:02.640 You need to understand that the president or even Congress 0.54
00:33:07.800 won't meet with anybody but your tribal recognized leaders.
00:33:12.220 So me, as your tribal chairwoman, I am here to open that door for you treaty people, for the chiefs,
00:33:19.920 and go through that door and meet with President Obama and have that plan.
00:33:23.960 But that's what we need is a plan to show that the Great Civil Nation agreed on this plan,
00:33:29.440 and we're going to work together to, once we get the land back, this is what we're going to do.
00:33:34.800 And we have to be realistic.
00:33:36.760 You know, this is the 20th century.
00:33:38.420 it's the 21st now and we have to be realistic to what we're going to do with it once you get it
00:33:46.520 back what are you going to do with it that's the first question that's going to be asked we have
00:33:50.580 to have the right answer so we try to get all these people together hold all these meetings
00:33:56.260 come up with ideas and efforts and if one didn't work then we haven't we have another one that
00:34:02.860 we're working on but how this unity concert came about is that once we were planning these meetings
00:34:10.080 up in the black hills and the idea came on let's have a unity concert and so um that came from that
00:34:18.860 and the first year we had that kind of concert several of our elderly women said in our culture
00:34:25.560 in our tradition you have to have it for four years and everything is in fours in our culture
00:34:32.560 tradition so this is the last year for the unity concert and i'm really encouraging everybody to
00:34:38.940 come take part in helping us to get the black children returned to us you know wherever it be
00:34:46.060 letter writing phone calls prayers you know just we need help we need help from everybody we can't
00:34:55.500 just be, then we're going to do it.
00:34:59.260 We will do it.
00:35:01.300 That we have to extend to other organizations,
00:35:06.360 other races across the United States, Alaska, and internationally.
00:35:25.500 Thank you. 0.98
00:35:55.500 Petroglyphs of the mind
00:36:07.560 Transcribed from the language
00:36:10.560 Of generations before
00:36:12.440 Distant echoes
00:36:14.680 Route forth
00:36:15.860 With the force
00:36:17.440 Of ten thousand years
00:36:19.780 All with the common drive
00:36:22.440 The perpetual need
00:36:24.860 To exist, constants and haunting, like fetal memories from the center of the earth.
00:36:32.880 She who has been loved and ravaged.
00:36:36.420 She who can take everything away if she chooses to.
00:36:40.600 But awaits protocol with a heavy heart. 0.90
00:36:44.780 Lunar balance and cosmic splendor.
00:36:48.380 Our mortal vessels we inevitably send her.
00:36:51.420 Ashes and dust, erosion and rust.
00:36:56.820 there's so much that you've said that I would love to dive into more the the struggles
00:37:26.700 of being a woman in office and dealings of these big government agencies and how brave and courageous
00:37:35.880 you are to have done that and that's a really important message to share with other women
00:37:42.840 especially young women that they are valuable and you know their opinions matter so if you'd
00:37:50.280 like to say anything about the role of women in this transition in this envisioning of a
00:37:59.040 future of reciprocity and unity you know we uh when i first ran for a vice president of a go
00:38:09.580 i respect our men i respect our traditions i respect our ways so before i even threw my
00:38:20.080 hat in, I went across the reservation. We have nine districts, and I talked to the elderly men
00:38:26.460 in those districts, and I explained to them that, you know, it's time now for us to work together.
00:38:33.680 We need to work together because I'm thinking of my children, my grandchildren, and even the
00:38:38.880 future generations, and we have concerns also on the direction our nation is going,
00:38:46.200 and we're really not going anywhere because we can't work together.
00:38:51.880 And so I would like to work with you side by side on how we can change this.
00:38:59.740 We need to make a big change and what are we doing wrong?
00:39:03.920 What are we not doing?
00:39:05.440 How can we work together to make our nation stronger,
00:39:09.520 to bring a better life for our children?
00:39:11.860 and I talked to each of the elderly men
00:39:15.000 and I even talked to Chief Oliver Redcott about it
00:39:18.320 I went and talked to my Uncle Johnson Holy Rock
00:39:21.720 who I mentioned earlier
00:39:22.800 and with him I spent a whole hour with him
00:39:26.500 and he questioned me on my knowledge
00:39:29.500 of our nation, our culture, our tradition
00:39:33.920 the Black Hills
00:39:35.560 he had all kinds of questions
00:39:37.500 and I tried to answer them as honestly
00:39:40.680 as best as I could and I told him we as women are here to walk beside the men in order to look out
00:39:48.880 for our future generations and he said well I'm gonna tell you something my girl he said I don't
00:39:53.820 want to discourage you but you do know that our nation we're a male-dominant society and you might
00:40:01.300 have a hard time and I said no uncle I think that changed I said I understand but I think it changed
00:40:08.800 with our women getting better education.
00:40:13.180 We have women doctors.
00:40:14.760 We have, you know, women that are working, 1.00
00:40:17.800 providing for the household.
00:40:19.780 You know, we're not saying we're better than men,
00:40:21.760 but it's come to that where we're thinking about survival.
00:40:26.140 And I said, I understand how to be respectful.
00:40:30.340 I know my role as a woman.
00:40:32.880 And so he gave me his blessings and he said, good luck.
00:40:36.560 The next time I met up with Chief O'Reilly, he came into my office and he sat down and he looked at me and he looked away and he said, you know, I went across the reservation this weekend and I talked to different people, he said, and we all feel it's time for a woman to run for this position.
00:40:58.040 and he got up and he walked up.
00:41:00.240 So I put my name in a hat for vice president
00:41:03.540 and I've been elected as the first woman vice president
00:41:07.260 of the Uwawasi tribe.
00:41:09.700 And we had a ceremony in that regards
00:41:13.720 and the spirits gave me my Lakota name
00:41:16.900 which was first to stand with a feather.
00:41:22.320 And the meaning behind that is that I was the first woman
00:41:26.820 to be placed in a position that was held solely by the men.
00:41:34.080 And I really carry that name with honor because, like I told the women,
00:41:42.360 at a women's meeting, and I told them, I said, you know, I opened the door.
00:41:49.720 What I wanted to do was open the door for the women 0.97
00:41:52.440 so that they could be in the place leadership roles 1.00
00:41:57.820 to be able to voice our concerns, our issues, our solutions,
00:42:03.320 you know, just to work with the men on doing all of that.
00:42:08.500 And so I said, you know, I'm not here to say I'm better than anybody
00:42:12.080 or, you know, I'm going to do a better job.
00:42:15.120 I'm just here to say that I'm opening the door for the women. 1.00
00:42:19.660 And that door opened because the next two administrations later, the first woman president was elected, Cecilia Firefender.
00:42:30.660 So I know deep in my heart that what I've been doing, my actions, just working a little at a time, brought the trust from the people to give us women a chance to be in these leadership roles and to show them that we can make changes, we can make life better.
00:42:49.660 and I really am happy that this is the path that gosh love put for me to follow
00:42:57.560 because there was time I didn't know what I was doing with my life.
00:43:03.500 You know, there was alcohol abuse,
00:43:06.560 and I turned to alcohol when I lost my daughter.
00:43:11.260 She was three years old.
00:43:12.160 She actually didn't get run over.
00:43:13.520 I turned to alcohol and I abused alcohol for like four or five months my mother was raised
00:43:21.760 and my other daughter and that's how I turned to grief and I think that's common here on the
00:43:27.540 reservation is I turned to alcohol and drugs when you're grieving or there's this hopelessness
00:43:34.320 there's this fear that you know where am I gonna go where am I gonna live where what am I gonna
00:43:41.560 especially when you have children you know that that's what was brought among us by the federal
00:43:46.760 government by the colonization that they put us in this situation but then my mother never drank
00:43:53.580 alcohol and she just told me one day you're her mother you need to get your life together
00:43:59.260 she's suffering you're suffering but you can overcome that grief and realizing that your
00:44:06.440 daughter's in a better place she's with the creator and you need to think about this daughter
00:44:12.320 so that really made me think and so I got my daughter back I got a job I quit drinking
00:44:20.480 and I've been sober ever since and like I said this path that Takasha laid out for me
00:44:26.720 was something I never ever expected I never ever dreamt that you know I would be a state
00:44:32.720 I'd be secretary of the tribe for four terms.
00:44:37.100 I was first woman vice president, second woman president.
00:44:42.220 You know, there's just all these accomplishments that I had accomplished
00:44:48.060 was because of my faith in Tukashla and because of the people.
00:44:53.840 The people knowing me and trusting me and working with me.
00:44:58.220 And, you know, it makes me feel good when these younger women come up to me and they want to meet me and shake my hand.
00:45:06.640 And, you know, I really stress education because that's going to help you go a long ways.
00:45:12.040 And that's what my mom expressed to myself and my siblings.
00:45:15.980 You know, you need to get an education. 0.95
00:45:17.880 We need to compete with the white world out there and we can do it. 1.00
00:45:23.140 And I see that with a lot of our people that are, you know, going to college and getting their master's degree and, you know, just making their life better. 0.99
00:45:33.940 And it was hard.
00:45:35.680 It was really hard.
00:45:36.700 I'm not going to say everything was rosy, a rosy picture while I was in these positions because it wasn't.
00:45:43.780 There was some men that didn't like the fact that there's a woman in this position. 0.99
00:45:49.440 And so let's try to bring her down.
00:45:51.240 If I said white, they would say black, but it wasn't all men.
00:45:55.100 I had a lot of men supporting me, but it was just a handful.
00:45:59.760 And I'm hoping today that that handful realizes the changes that I helped make,
00:46:08.120 that the people helped me make was for our future generations and for our children,
00:46:12.780 not for myself, not for my family, but for the Lakota Nation as a whole.
00:46:18.300 So there was times I went home crying, just hurt, gossip, the rumors.
00:46:25.200 I think what really helped me was my spirituality, you know, picking up that chanupa and praying with it and going to our ceremonies.
00:46:34.240 And as colonized as I was, I went to codependency treatment because my husband was an alcoholic.
00:46:42.560 And that also helped me, the white man's way of codependency treatment.
00:46:48.300 It made me realize that, you know, I didn't have to live that way.
00:46:52.600 I didn't have to say yes to everything.
00:46:55.040 I had to learn how to say no, not only to myself, but to my husband, to my children, and even to the people.
00:47:02.780 So there's some good in some of the things that the federal government provided for us that helped me.
00:47:10.500 And it's kept me going.
00:47:12.600 You know, the story, I really like, I want you to know the story that in 2009, when we took upon this project on the Black Hills, like I said, we were sitting around my table and we were talking and we all agreed we really need to bring spirituality in it.
00:47:33.780 If it's going to work, we need to bring spirituality in it.
00:47:37.560 So we made a special trip.
00:47:39.460 We took food and tobacco and offerings, and we went to Greengrass where the sacred white buffalo cat pipe is,
00:47:49.960 and we offered it to Orville Lufthansa, and we sat down, and we talked to him about this project
00:47:56.800 and some of the treaty people, treaty men.
00:48:01.060 There's about four or five of them.
00:48:02.900 I don't know if they were curious or they were really supporting us, but they came.
00:48:06.720 They heard we were going, so they came too.
00:48:09.960 So they had their Chinooka, and the tribe didn't have none,
00:48:13.120 so I used my own, and we offered them to him.
00:48:16.940 We smoked it, we prayed, and then we discussed what we were doing
00:48:21.540 and that we needed help from the Creator
00:48:24.440 because this is a movement that was going to help our people as a whole.
00:48:30.160 But on our way to Greengrass, my husband and I was going down the highway,
00:48:34.620 and we were talking and stuff
00:48:37.120 and then all of a sudden I seen him kind of look up
00:48:39.280 and I didn't pay any attention
00:48:41.040 and look at those clouds he said
00:48:43.060 so I looked up and here
00:48:44.380 there was a perfectly shaped eagle
00:48:47.340 with his wings spread out
00:48:50.120 and he was looking towards the west
00:48:52.220 to the black hills
00:48:53.200 and so I looked
00:48:55.600 I couldn't believe my eyes
00:48:56.820 I looked but it was there just plain as day
00:48:59.200 just clear that cloud was shaped as an eagle
00:49:02.040 and it made me feel so good
00:49:04.520 And I just started crying, and I told him, I said, you know,
00:49:07.660 we are going to get our black clothes back.
00:49:10.220 It may not be right away, instantly, but we're going to get them back.
00:49:15.320 He looked at me, and he said, look again.
00:49:18.120 I looked at it, and here in that eagle's claws was a chinupa, a pipe.
00:49:23.820 And that showed me then and told me then and there that through spirituality,
00:49:28.840 we keep it in our mind and our heart that this is going to happen.
00:49:33.060 It's going to happen.
00:49:35.300 And so when we got to Greengrass, I told Orville about that cloud,
00:49:41.660 and he really looked at me.
00:49:43.980 And he said, you know, it makes me feel good that I know it's not going to be
00:49:48.040 right away, but eventually we are going to get the Black Hills back.
00:49:52.860 So I really wished everybody would keep that in their mind,
00:49:57.740 in their heart, and help us work with us.
00:50:00.040 If not us, you know, if there's other groups out there working for the same thing, you know, help them.
00:50:08.300 Join them and help them and get this done.
00:50:13.540 Like I said earlier, the creator put this path in front of me and he's helped me everywhere.
00:50:19.740 But also the tribal leaders, the elderly, you know, everybody that crossed my path has helped me one way or another to accomplish things for them.
00:50:32.020 Not me, but for them.
00:50:33.320 And that's what keeps me going is I'm doing this for the people.
00:50:38.080 I'm the servant for the people.
00:50:39.600 That's the path that the Creator chose for me that I'm going to be a servant and that I'm going to be there whenever they need me.
00:50:46.760 My husband passed away from leukemia in 2013, so that's when I left tribal government.
00:50:55.420 Now I'm here working for the Indian Health Service as a patient advocate and that's helping
00:51:00.880 the people again with their complaints, their grievances, their concerns, and, you know,
00:51:07.160 building, closing that gap between IHS and the people because there's really distrust
00:51:14.500 with IHS, but then again, that goes back to the lack of funding from the federal government
00:51:19.860 because we have not had 100% of funding to adjust the needs of healthcare and the nature
00:51:26.700 of our people.
00:51:28.080 So I'm just thankful that this is a life that was chosen for me and that I'm following it
00:51:33.980 the best that I can, but knowing that I'm having help from everybody.
00:51:39.700 That's my story.
00:51:44.500 It's gotta be a crime
00:51:50.780 Somewhere in your heart you'll find
00:51:57.140 We're fighting for our right
00:52:04.500 To keep the future bright
00:52:08.100 And protect the ones we love
00:52:11.640 In the river is our sisters and our brothers
00:52:23.480 We are camping out for each other
00:52:34.180 We are stronger when we bend together
00:52:37.740 And we're standing up for the water
00:52:41.440 Don't poison the future away
00:52:45.180 You've got to have a soul
00:52:53.140 Mother protects us all 1.00
00:53:00.220 If you treat her with disrespect
00:53:07.080 Then what message have you left
00:53:11.140 For your children and their home
00:53:14.900 In the river is our sisters and our brothers
00:53:26.120 Well, thank you so much for sharing your story
00:53:33.640 And when you were speaking about the Black Hills and getting the Black Hills back, I kept thinking about the future generations of Native youth who could steward these lands again and all of the struggles that teens are facing, especially teens, you know, growing up entrenched in this intergenerational trauma and this web of injustices.
00:54:01.140 And I know that a lot of times it leaves youth debilitated with despair and some turn to suicide.
00:54:10.340 I know so much so that suicide state of emergencies have been declared in the Oglala Sioux Nation.
00:54:16.840 How do you envision this path out of hopelessness for them?
00:54:21.500 How do you feel a unity concert can help uplift the youth?
00:54:26.860 And how can other people support them that aren't in that region?
00:54:32.120 Well, I think that the music that's provided at the Unity Concert really sends a message.
00:54:39.220 And if you come to the Unity Concert, you're going to see all the youth that are there taking part,
00:54:45.040 you know, listening to the music, even performing.
00:54:49.540 We try to get our Native American youth up there on the stage.
00:54:54.940 It's through music.
00:54:56.460 You know, everything is through music.
00:54:58.340 Like, we had music in our culture and tradition, and, you know, there was a flute and our songs, the drum, the beat of life, the drum beat, and that's in us.
00:55:12.840 And, you know, when I was president, it was really hard because that's when the suicide started here on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation.
00:55:19.940 and one of the tribal councilmen
00:55:23.680 I was coming back from Denver, Colorado
00:55:25.960 for the HHS consultation
00:55:30.060 and he called me
00:55:32.220 and he was really feeling bad
00:55:33.580 because there was a completion
00:55:34.920 of a young boy
00:55:36.440 and he said, you know,
00:55:38.740 Trisa, we have to do something.
00:55:41.600 So I said, well,
00:55:43.180 leave me in my office tomorrow
00:55:44.660 and we'll get going.
00:55:47.080 So what we did was
00:55:47.860 we got a hold of
00:55:49.120 you know everybody the churches the tribal council the people the businesses the organizations and
00:55:57.760 we had a new conference and we said let's get together and let's work on this issue
00:56:03.660 it's becoming more and more and throughout time from then 2009 to today it's even gone to
00:56:14.340 adults where adults are the ideations and attempts and completions and there is hopelessness here
00:56:23.700 on the reservation you know lack of jobs lack of infrastructure you know there's so many
00:56:31.760 components that lead to this hopelessness colonization put us in this in this position
00:56:38.220 but we can always get out of it
00:56:42.240 and that is through the youth
00:56:45.060 through their education
00:56:46.240 through their knowledge
00:56:47.360 that's why it's really important
00:56:49.140 that parents get involved
00:56:50.640 in the upbringing of their children
00:56:52.260 we talk about alcohol and drug abuse
00:56:56.040 and children see that in their home
00:56:58.640 and they think that's the norm
00:57:00.440 that's the way life is
00:57:02.200 but today we're seeing more and more of them
00:57:06.140 looking at the big picture
00:57:07.480 and we need to continue to talk about the bigger picture to them,
00:57:11.120 that there is an end to hopelessness.
00:57:14.100 But we all have to want it in our hearts and our minds
00:57:17.440 and want it for ourselves and for our families and for our nation.
00:57:23.480 And the best way to do that is through education.
00:57:26.300 Get education, learn what the outside world is learning,
00:57:32.080 and be competitive, just be sincere, be honest with yourself
00:57:36.520 that this is what you want to do.
00:57:38.320 You want to help your people.
00:57:40.740 You want to help make a change.
00:57:44.160 That movement up in North Dakota,
00:57:46.600 if you notice that there's a lot of youth involved,
00:57:49.780 they organize, they have these organizations,
00:57:52.640 they're going across the United States
00:57:54.120 talking about the sacredness of water.
00:57:58.220 And it just amazes me that the energy,
00:58:00.800 they have a lot of good energy
00:58:02.820 that they want to put to use
00:58:04.760 to address these issues that have held us down all these years,
00:58:09.560 generation after generation, holding us down.
00:58:12.820 And I think now is the time that they're going to stand up
00:58:15.780 and they are going to make a difference.
00:58:18.160 We need to encourage them.
00:58:19.980 We need to support them.
00:58:21.060 We need to love them.
00:58:21.940 We need to help them.
00:58:23.360 It's a challenge.
00:58:24.580 It's a big challenge when a change needs to be made.
00:58:29.840 To embrace that change and to carry it through
00:58:32.740 and not drop the ball anywhere.
00:58:35.060 Just, you know, go around and talk to people
00:58:37.360 and just get people involved
00:58:38.980 and look at everything positive.
00:58:41.820 Leave the negativity out.
00:58:43.760 How can we do this?
00:58:45.380 What can we do?
00:58:46.940 Who do we get involved?
00:58:49.040 You know, those are the questions that they need to ask
00:58:52.000 and they need to have answers for and to work on it.
00:58:56.720 Work on it as a whole.
00:58:58.720 Don't be territorial.
00:59:00.200 Just open up for everybody.
00:59:02.740 And you'll get results that way when they know they have a place.
00:59:06.440 They know that they belong.
00:59:07.920 They know that they're going to make the change.
00:59:10.280 Because I know they want that.
00:59:12.320 I know they want that, that they want a change.
00:59:14.580 They don't want to be going a bit hungry, going home to alcohol and drug abuse in their homes.
00:59:22.860 They want the education, but they don't have the school clothes.
00:59:26.880 You know, there's so much that our youth are going through.
00:59:30.120 But that also goes back to we as adults, we as parents, we need to change our ways too and recognize their needs and try to help them.
00:59:41.700 So it involves the whole family, the children, the community, your relatives, it involves the whole nation that we need to open our eyes and see that we can make a difference where we have to be in this together.
01:00:00.120 Thank you so much, Teresa, and if there's anything else that you would like to add or anything you'd like to close on, please feel free, but otherwise, thank you so much for sharing stories and so much insight into your life and to the Lakota people.
01:00:22.100 It's been a really touching conversation.
01:00:30.120 You know, I was always told to speak from the heart.
01:00:35.280 We had a CMS come here and audits us,
01:00:39.740 and I had to give my report,
01:00:43.080 and she said, now just get right to the point,
01:00:46.240 the governing body, just get right to the point,
01:00:48.660 this, this, this.
01:00:50.240 And I said, you know what?
01:00:52.100 In our tradition, it's storytelling.
01:00:55.220 We tell stories, and they really looked at me.
01:00:58.660 And I said, that's just the way we are.
01:01:00.840 That's how we were taught.
01:01:02.380 We tell a story before you get your point out there.
01:01:06.060 My life, throughout my life, this later life here,
01:01:08.520 that's what I do is I try to explain to them our thinking and our ways.
01:01:15.560 And some of them appreciate it, but some of them are so,
01:01:19.360 want to be, you know, right on time and time limit and all of that.
01:01:24.980 And then they said, you need to own this project.
01:01:27.400 You need to tell them, this is your project.
01:01:30.160 I said, you know, I'm going to tell you something.
01:01:31.940 In our culture, again, there's no I, there's we.
01:01:36.480 And again, they looked at me, and I think I surprised them.
01:01:41.100 I don't know if they ever heard that before, but that's what I was taught.
01:01:47.740 But I just want to thank you for giving me this opportunity.
01:01:51.800 I hope I answered your questions.
01:01:54.700 I feel honored that, you know, my words will be heard
01:02:01.260 and to be heard by a lot of people.
01:02:05.260 And this is food for thought.
01:02:08.780 You know, embrace it and think of how you as a person,
01:02:13.940 you can contribute to this effort.
01:02:17.000 And never give up on your dreams and your visions
01:02:21.380 because they do become reality.
01:02:23.620 But always be grounded and always have spirituality within you and within your actions.
01:02:53.620 I'm Ayanna Young, and thank you for listening to For the Wild podcast.
01:03:02.540 We heard the words of Johnson Holy Rock, set to a Lakota Memorial song.
01:03:07.480 Then Bethany and Rufus with No More.
01:03:10.440 Petroglyphs by Goodshield Aguilar and Minyan Gili.
01:03:14.280 And lastly, Rhea Zaragoza with the acoustic version of In the River.
01:03:20.720 All of these musicians will be in the Black Hills next week for the Unity Concert.
01:03:25.400 Our theme music is Silence Returns by Bo and Kate Wolfe with Like a River.
01:03:30.320 I want to give thanks to our research director, Madison Magulski, and our producer, March Young.
01:03:38.100 This episode is in collaboration with the Unity Concert,
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01:04:16.460 I saw a western cedar
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