Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - February 21, 2023


A Butterfly Pinned

Topics
death and fear of life
Call the Tribunal Fucked By My Own Genius

Episode Stats


Length

1 hour and 1 minute

Words per minute

189.68

Word count

11,741

Sentence count

569

Harmful content

Misogyny

19

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Toxicity

86

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Hate speech

52

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Transcript

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00:00:05.060 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, the host of The Girlfriends.
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00:02:11.660 in 1995 my neighbor and a trainer disappeared from a commune there's nature and trees and
00:02:18.160 Praying and drugs.
00:02:19.800 No, I am not your guru.
00:02:23.480 Back then, I lied to everybody.
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00:02:32.520 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:02:39.380 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.
00:02:40.880 I'm Jacqueline Novak.
00:02:41.940 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.
00:02:46.660 Two untamable intellects.
00:02:48.520 This is our hobby. 0.97
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00:03:03.280 I can't tell visually what's going on at all.
00:03:06.080 Really? Nothing?
00:03:06.980 It's not disinterest. I just can't tell.
00:03:08.980 What can't you see?
00:03:11.500 I don't know. It looks totally normal.
00:03:12.980 I would never think anything was weird.
00:03:15.340 What do you mean?
00:03:16.160 You don't see that I'm hanging a microphone off a piece of duct tape off a lamp.
00:03:20.340 OK, so now I see that's duct tape.
00:03:21.940 OK, I just want to be acknowledged and honored for the fact that I set up a recording studio
00:03:26.140 boom arm here in the Ramble Hotel in Denver, where I'm stuck for five days.
00:03:34.100 Quarantine.
00:03:35.160 You're stuck in the hotel because you have COVID-19.
00:03:38.620 Well, I haven't seen you yet.
00:03:39.880 You look you look good.
00:03:41.320 Feeling phenomenal right now because I'm excited to have some communication.
00:03:45.060 Are you loving it?
00:03:45.780 are you kind of loving being quarantined the first morning was you know a dream okay because
00:03:52.160 here's here's how it unfolded are you ready it's pretty much as good as you can get if you're gonna
00:03:55.800 get if you're gonna get COVID right it's midnight okay okay so one I'm like the only person masking
00:04:03.940 in the country okay you're literally the most COVID careful person I know well top two yeah
00:04:09.720 and who's that one my friend you don't have to say them but yeah my friend my friend yeah um so
00:04:19.580 just to be dead ass clear I have not been perfect I had coffees in the lobby of the Ludlow with you
00:04:26.140 in which the mask was around the neck and I was cackling up a storm and embracing cackles
00:04:30.740 I mean others were a good eight feet away I'd say men often 12 to 24 but whatever
00:04:37.380 So I'll just acknowledge that.
00:04:39.000 Masked at the merch table while people who are buying the merch are not masked.
00:04:43.420 I'm not blaming them.
00:04:44.640 You have no idea how you got it.
00:04:45.920 No.
00:04:46.300 When's the last time you had it?
00:04:47.560 Last July.
00:04:48.460 I just passed the year mark for myself.
00:04:50.560 And I did have the booster two and a half weeks ago before I left for tour.
00:04:54.460 Interesting.
00:04:55.400 Wait, I just want to be dead clear.
00:04:56.460 What I was starting to say about the merch table was that I felt this horrible guilt.
00:04:59.820 These pictures of me posing next to people when I definitely like had it.
00:05:03.160 And I'm like, well, I was masked and they're not.
00:05:05.360 It's amazing.
00:05:05.820 you were a mess i was doing my part but do you want to hear the the dream experience i think is
00:05:12.860 as good as you can get yeah so it's midnight okay i'm here in denver great hotel the ramble hotel 0.81
00:05:18.140 which by the way was a poog hag wreck oh great people spoke up and tagged the hotel 0.97
00:05:22.640 so and thank god i went for the big room that i could do tracy in because the gym is tiny they 0.99
00:05:28.340 said so i was like all right fine that's not what this hotel is about they're about the death and
00:05:31.500 cocktail like so i'm gonna choose the room with the space i could trace it or thank god they got
00:05:35.560 so midnight sitting there going i text chris i go planning holyoke the day after denver was a mistake
00:05:44.240 okay because i have to fly into the bdl there's a stop in minneapolis it's like um i don't know
00:05:52.380 hartford springfield that area okay always interesting the places that are like you know
00:05:56.340 hartford international it's like weird it's like you're flying to italy from like hartford
00:06:00.600 connecticut yeah yeah so i'm like this was a mistake and my throat had felt dry the night
00:06:06.520 before on stage i remember you saying i was told by others it might be the high altitude of denver
00:06:12.240 that there is not only high thin dry so i already had a vix big vix now i say that why because i
00:06:20.300 shipped home my canopy with a bunch of merch that i couldn't haul with me because my tour manager
00:06:24.240 got sick and had to go home so it flew okay so whatever just so people know that's why the
00:06:29.580 canopy wasn't with me blazing i was like it's fine it's fine so i got the fix going in my room thank
00:06:34.800 god i'm lying there and i'm like oh my god the flight is at 6 a.m hell i'm like why i'm like
00:06:39.760 surely there's another surely there's another i go through the same research process lying there
00:06:43.160 going to change same day change same day change delta and and like there's nothing and i'm like 0.85
00:06:48.260 there's literally no way so i'm lying there and i'm like and i'm fucking like i feel sick i'm like 0.89
00:06:53.280 i'm getting a cold it's a fucking cold like of course it is touching a million surfaces 0.91
00:06:58.320 and I'm like you know I'll just take a COVID test and I gotta say it was one of those 0.97
00:07:06.400 to say hoping for COVID is wrong okay yeah yeah
00:07:11.460 but there's something about you are at 6 a.m flight baby yeah there's something about I've
00:07:17.840 talked about this before with survivable illness that you know you're gonna survive and you're not
00:07:22.540 truly suffering like similar to taking one's temp I believe if you're taking your temperature it's
00:07:26.500 because you're hoping for a fever on some level.
00:07:28.020 You're hoping for validation.
00:07:30.820 Okay, anytime you put a thermometer in your mouth, you pray.
00:07:33.760 Okay, every time you put a thermometer in your mouth,
00:07:36.360 you pull it out, devastated.
00:07:37.760 98.6, you're like...
00:07:39.020 That's genius.
00:07:39.840 You know, I'm making it universal.
00:07:41.300 It might not be universal, but there's something there.
00:07:43.640 So I'm like, let's just take the test, see what's happening.
00:07:45.780 Because if it's 7 a.m. and I'm waiting in the lobby of a Comfort Inn in Holyoke,
00:07:51.820 okay, unable to check into a room, and that's when I realize I have it,
00:07:55.020 like no right yeah so I'm gonna just take it the test tube's like sitting there on the thing
00:08:01.640 like whatever okay I kind of like forget for a minute
00:08:04.000 I like glance I'm like all right the test okay it's like five minutes later I glance over it's
00:08:11.360 like a pink and blue line are shining out of the test tube they're like projected on the opposite
00:08:16.440 wall yeah yeah like light from the lamp is hitting it and it's like I'm like I can see pink and blue
00:08:21.660 from here like i was like oh my god and then begins like the text thread of wanting to be
00:08:25.980 witnessed of course i have covid oh i think i woke up to the text yeah yeah yeah if you did
00:08:31.540 if you did where i was there was like silence for a wall until morning except for chris okay 0.95
00:08:36.040 actually it was funny my parents my dad rare cursor like certainly not written down oh shit 0.99
00:08:44.800 my mom your dad curses rarely i feel like i cursed in his presence the other night 0.96
00:08:52.380 no in handwriting like okay okay and also like as an adult he's like let like i mean like i'm an
00:08:58.020 adult he's like let loose more okay but i still makes me laugh a little bit anytime i hear him 0.96
00:09:03.000 like him say like oh fuck or something like it's like i only can't believe it and you're just 0.98
00:09:07.780 talking by the way suddenly i feel sick not to make it about me i'm hearing you and i'm like 0.98
00:09:12.940 I've never minded someone making it about that.
00:09:14.860 Because I'm shocked that I didn't get sick and that I haven't.
00:09:18.740 And I keep going.
00:09:19.300 Yeah.
00:09:19.580 Knock, knock. 1.00
00:09:20.340 Make sure that the superstition fairies flying around you don't decide to descend on you for your lack of respect for the gods. 1.00
00:09:27.820 I know. 1.00
00:09:28.440 They're serving it up.
00:09:29.680 But anyway, so I'm like, oh, my God, I don't have to get up.
00:09:32.960 Okay.
00:09:33.200 Now, there's also a thing which is I feel sick.
00:09:36.080 So it's not wrong that I don't want to get up.
00:09:38.340 No, no.
00:09:39.340 It's not like I'm being rude to the people of Holyoke.
00:09:41.660 I was devastated to have to not it's completely out of your control so whatever anyway I was like
00:09:47.400 okay cancel cancel cancel I had this call like this is like so whatever but it's real it's like
00:09:53.880 I'm like literally calling Amex because I booked through sympathy for a little bit of love yeah
00:10:01.840 I'm calling him just so after four presses of a phone tree I can hear someone say thank you for
00:10:07.140 being a member for three years yeah yeah go to sleep peacefully do you ever like are you ever
00:10:12.560 in this where you lay the phone on your chest like where you're that kind of resigned ill
00:10:18.180 slash tired you just lay the radiating phone on your chest on speaker on the heart chakra yeah
00:10:24.240 and i was like hey i booked a hotel in boston like for like like three hours ago it's like i
00:10:32.880 gotta cancel now and they're like it's past midnight so the hotel's policies that you have
00:10:38.460 to pay for the first night and i'm like but i booked it two hours ago and like you know the
00:10:43.100 whole thing they're like we'll call and i'm like this is the concierge i prayed for when i signed
00:10:47.780 up we'll call yeah so then they put you on home where they call wow and they threaten the hotel
00:10:53.660 yeah this is why some places don't take amex 0.98
00:10:57.020 because they'll like defend your ass at all costs or whatever by the way another amex ad 0.98
00:11:02.640 literally how dare how dare i when where's the cash what's wrong sorry i'm getting a i thought 0.99
00:11:10.980 i turned my phone off i'm just getting a call and it's it's of interest to say spam risk
00:11:15.880 no no i think it is something real go for it i would love to listen in hello hey hey it's um
00:11:24.660 compass we chatted a few months ago about something oh sorry i'm i'm actually in the
00:11:29.440 middle of, um, work right now. And I have to, I should just tell you, I'm in no way, um, able to
00:11:35.100 buy a house right now. Um, but I'm, um, but thanks for, but I will reach out when I am, I'm back in
00:11:42.280 LA now. Okay. Thank you so much. Oh, okay. So here we go. I heard compass, which by the way,
00:11:53.160 I only know compass real estate or whatever from when I was staying at this incredible house.
00:11:57.480 Was I rude just now?
00:11:58.500 No, you were perfection.
00:12:00.000 Okay.
00:12:00.240 Okay.
00:12:00.760 I only know compass because I was staying when I was, I was staying in this basement,
00:12:04.560 this incredible house, these like patrons of the theater.
00:12:06.820 Okay.
00:12:07.120 I stay in the basement and next door there's like this like llama farm or something.
00:12:10.620 Okay.
00:12:10.940 And it looks like, and they've like modernized it and I don't even know what's going on.
00:12:13.580 It's like incredible.
00:12:14.340 And I see this sign hanging and just says compass.
00:12:17.580 It was like compass.
00:12:18.440 I was like, what's that?
00:12:19.220 And I was like, oh, that must be like serious, like big time real estate people of the future.
00:12:26.280 Is it true?
00:12:26.780 I mean
00:12:27.640 I mean they're just
00:12:29.140 I mean I don't know
00:12:29.860 If it's big time
00:12:30.520 They're just like
00:12:31.060 Everywhere
00:12:31.640 I do think it's funny though
00:12:32.940 Because I like
00:12:33.620 Looked on a website
00:12:34.580 At like homes in Palm Springs
00:12:36.100 I just can't believe
00:12:36.760 People have my number
00:12:37.560 They have my number
00:12:38.340 And I don't know how
00:12:39.020 And I'm getting texts
00:12:39.800 Like are you still interested
00:12:41.120 In 1920
00:12:42.100 Like you know
00:12:43.320 Sandra Bernhardt Boulevard
00:12:44.980 Or whatever
00:12:45.360 And it's like
00:12:45.880 The boldness to cold call
00:12:47.000 I actually find like
00:12:48.320 Kind of outrageous
00:12:49.160 Well
00:12:49.940 It's on me for picking up
00:12:50.700 I loved that guy though
00:12:52.180 Okay
00:12:52.460 So
00:12:52.820 Just to be clear
00:12:53.460 I was in New York
00:12:54.280 And I
00:12:55.200 For that
00:12:55.800 I was so curious
00:12:56.580 of what like the absolute cheapest yeah like studio you know what i mean went to look it was
00:13:02.140 unlivable also still couldn't afford it i was just like and then this guy yeah i mean god bless him
00:13:08.420 he's trying to he's trying to work but uh no um no you breathe over three breaths on the red fin
00:13:14.160 site yeah you're getting called at 6 a.m for the next six months it's worse than gym memberships
00:13:19.640 and also like it's a known thing that people look at real estate for fun with no ability to buy
00:13:27.240 it's literally a known thing like it's called like there's like a term like partner zillowing
00:13:31.120 or something exactly exactly by the way i said to him and i want to be clear i was even up front
00:13:37.940 with him because he was sending me stuff i was like hey gotta be honest like i don't live in
00:13:40.900 new york like i'm not in a place to buy like i just love sex in the city so i was thinking
00:13:46.980 okay but let me just finish the the glory of the cancellation so then i'm on the phone mx whatever 0.77
00:13:52.340 she's like i'll call i'm like i'll wait okay oh yeah she comes back the only trouble is getting
00:13:56.480 off the phone with them when you're like thank you you've done an incredible job i just love mx
00:14:00.500 good night and they're like we just hope that if you have any other but you know what i mean like
00:14:05.320 it goes on for a really long time so i was like i realized like whatever i have covid and then
00:14:09.080 and then i get up i see something i go to the window and i was on the phone with chris and i
00:14:13.320 go oh my god chris i have covid but there's good news it's snowing sleeping in and i wake up snow
00:14:20.640 falling in denver outside of a picture window and i don't know what picture window is but
00:14:24.420 no you sent me a pretty little video of the snowflakes and i just was thinking about how
00:14:29.260 snow is one of our only i mean if you're gonna have covid that's the way the fact that it falls
00:14:33.340 silently in a silent precipitation is there anything more beautiful no okay i'm done
00:14:40.460 no wow she's back no no I'm speechless I'm actually just thinking about it you are in
00:14:47.900 Denver I'm back in LA I like had a melt I've had a few meltdowns hey I saw a picture of your foot
00:14:53.540 come in recently yeah I'm so I wrote down I was like I need to get my feet professionally measured
00:14:59.560 because I don't know what size shoe I am and I never will and I've talked about this it's a
00:15:03.720 major OCD trigger I never know what size I am I wanted to I almost threw myself out the window
00:15:09.480 this morning because I, my friend in New York had these boots on. She's like, these are so
00:15:13.560 comfortable. I've been wearing them all day. They're on sale. I was like, oh yeah. I made
00:15:16.760 her take off the boot in the middle of the street and let me try it on. Cause I was like, I want
00:15:21.220 them, but like, I need to be able to. What did she do with her other foot? Was it flamingo or 0.96
00:15:25.340 was it resting against something? So there was like outdoor seating at a restaurant and she
00:15:28.760 kind of just like perched there. Genius. Okay. Genius. I put the boot on. This boot is too small 0.90
00:15:33.060 for me. I go, I think I could go up a half size. I don't marinate it on me too long. I go, I'll go
00:15:37.340 up a half size I go home I go I'm gonna get them right now because I don't want to fucking wait 0.99
00:15:40.780 on this shit I buy them a half size too big they fucking arrived today oh half size bigger than 0.99
00:15:46.320 hers bigger than hers I put them on I go are you fucking kidding me I walk around my house I go 1.00
00:15:54.120 and I start convincing myself well the toe's touching a little but that's normal it's normal 0.97
00:15:57.820 for the toe to the tip right it's not a clown shoe you're not supposed to be toes riding around 0.99
00:16:02.280 And they're like a goddamn 0.96
00:16:03.280 Because I classically get shoes too big 0.98
00:16:05.620 Because of this fear
00:16:06.460 I get clown shoe size
00:16:08.320 Thinking that
00:16:09.320 My toe shouldn't be anywhere near touching anything
00:16:12.680 Toe free falling in air
00:16:15.100 Yeah
00:16:15.840 And so I start to convince myself
00:16:19.400 No, no, no, they fit
00:16:20.260 They fit
00:16:20.920 And that turns into
00:16:22.960 I don't know if it's leather
00:16:23.860 But did you do leather stretches?
00:16:25.300 They are leather
00:16:25.880 And I thought they'll stretch
00:16:26.920 And maybe even just you saying
00:16:28.320 I'm going to throw them back on again
00:16:29.560 I'm pretty sure they're final sale
00:16:31.540 because they were on sale
00:16:32.540 and I'm absolutely beside myself.
00:16:34.040 And I almost lost it
00:16:36.020 because then,
00:16:36.780 because there was another thing,
00:16:38.840 free people,
00:16:39.440 God bless them,
00:16:40.100 sent some shoes 0.99
00:16:40.920 that don't fucking fit. 0.99
00:16:42.880 They're too big. 0.99
00:16:43.460 Okay.
00:16:43.740 They're too big.
00:16:44.380 There's no way around it.
00:16:45.040 They're too big.
00:16:45.980 And I made a problem.
00:16:46.840 I go, Kate,
00:16:48.020 you are completely banned
00:16:49.540 from buying shoes online
00:16:52.380 unless the brand you previously owned
00:16:54.700 and you know what you are.
00:16:55.500 Okay, wait, hold on.
00:16:56.620 Slow it down.
00:16:57.600 Banned.
00:16:58.340 Never again.
00:16:58.920 Okay, hold on.
00:16:59.640 Okay.
00:17:00.200 First of all,
00:17:00.860 the free people shoe thing. And I got those amazing fucking vagabond, like Mary Janes from 1.00
00:17:06.180 them, whatever. Okay. Now vagabond. Yes. Okay. They will send you a different size now. And I'm 1.00
00:17:12.840 talking in the free, whatever. They're not going to even make you like, I've been like, should I
00:17:16.920 drop it off at the store? Like the wrong size. And they're like, gift them to a friend. I'm
00:17:21.260 talking of course, in the poob begging world. I'm not saying that's the free people policy. 1.00
00:17:25.660 okay okay but i'm talking in the begging world but generosity shocking yeah yeah i've done this
00:17:32.520 now twice my friend erica has received two items now that we now we have the same boots and we
00:17:37.380 have the same coat wow because of the sizing okay so i'm just saying first of all let's just take a
00:17:45.380 second the final sale concept i don't know final sale with sizing i don't know kind of like still
00:17:52.280 feel like you should be able to exchange it. Am I wrong?
00:17:55.580 I completely agree. I completely agree.
00:18:06.620 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.
00:18:10.680 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.
00:18:16.000 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune.
00:18:19.760 It was hard to wrap your head around.
00:18:21.180 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.
00:18:24.840 No, I am not your guru.
00:18:28.580 And back then, I lied to my parents.
00:18:31.200 I lied to police.
00:18:32.480 I lied to everybody.
00:18:33.460 There were years right where I could not say your name.
00:18:36.240 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,
00:18:39.140 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,
00:18:41.940 whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.
00:18:45.300 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods
00:18:48.200 and not the obvious boyfriend?
00:18:49.760 They have had this case for 30 years. 0.98
00:18:52.820 I'll teach you sons of **** to come around here and my wife. 0.97
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00:18:57.160 This is The Red Weather.
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00:19:07.840 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, from The Girlfriends,
00:19:11.260 the number one hit true crime show that puts women right in the center of their own stories.
00:19:17.720 I'm back with more one-off interviews 0.97
00:19:19.840 with some truly kick-ass women on The Girlfriend's Spotlight. 1.00
00:19:24.740 I want to introduce you to Sylvia. 0.97
00:19:27.260 I'm going to climb this.
00:19:29.620 And then there's Vaisaka.
00:19:31.760 Let's see how we can stop killing and save lives.
00:19:35.880 Leila dared to ask the question.
00:19:38.340 Is badness hereditary?
00:19:40.380 And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.
00:19:42.180 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived,
00:19:45.120 She wouldn't have died on that fatal night.
00:19:48.360 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,
00:19:49.980 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.
00:19:53.040 I'm not too intimidated by her.
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00:22:09.360 well i've decided to take a covid test i'm seeing my parents today no comment on my frownie oh yeah
00:22:23.340 it's funny i just i just like saw it and wearing a frownie i've been wearing one for the last two
00:22:28.840 days and i took it off and refreshed it last night which was not my impulse i was like it's still
00:22:33.760 stuck why i do it but i was like fuck it i'm gonna like clean the skin and um kate's swabbing right 0.80
00:22:39.880 now let's see no no no they say hey both nostrils right yeah isn't it funny when they're like both 0.98
00:22:44.980 nostrils please and you're like yeah and they're like five seconds at least and you're like i always
00:22:48.820 do 25 yeah you know i'm saying do you like overdo it yeah i'm doing it a little extra but then i
00:22:53.900 also have this thing where i'm like okay is swabbing i've never never seen her do it wait
00:22:58.940 kate don't just twist you're not just twisting now are you what do you mean no you don't just
00:23:03.220 twist you also turn like the rotation it's like it's much like the okay no look i'm really getting
00:23:09.280 it okay i know but turn not just spin it's actually like the earth's rotation around the sun
00:23:16.160 i'm realizing look what i do with a covid test are you ready are you ready i spin it like the
00:23:22.640 earth which will fall into a shadow and light throughout the day and it's making a slow rotation
00:23:27.760 around its entire sphere wow beautiful and then what you do is you flick it to get the sample
00:23:35.800 mixed up okay the snow stopped which was devastating that is devastating oh and by
00:23:43.900 the way the other thing i did i launched into intense begging for a deal a post-stay deal i
00:23:51.580 am in the hotel i'm paying full price and i'm like if i'm gonna be here so the new violin is
00:23:58.840 like five days of quarantine yeah after that you know strict mask use whatever because
00:24:03.500 the contagion maybe you're not shedding as much or whatever at all like or you're most contagious
00:24:08.020 the two days before symptoms blah blah so i'm like all right i gotta stay in here another couple
00:24:12.220 days and like start sending emails i'm like pitching like i'll be recording poop from the
00:24:16.580 hotel literally you should see my thing yeah and the reason the reason like i hadn't even attempted
00:24:21.940 a deal before is because like i'd written to them before and they were like what are your listener
00:24:24.520 count like what are your target and i was just like too exhausted to even reply and i was just
00:24:29.860 like it's not just about the number of eyeballs i was like the number of ear balls you know what
00:24:34.300 i mean i was like it's a highly highly loyal and extremely coveted marketplace the listenership
00:24:41.120 is one of the most targeted by brands of all yeah yeah lying they're dying and being like i will
00:24:48.860 record and i was like it's less about it going on the personal instagram or even on the poog
00:24:53.660 instagram stories it's more about the podcast itself which i will be recording live and uh
00:24:59.800 they gave me they gave me a deal good i was like can i please i was like can i please get a media
00:25:04.180 rate not even like know what the fuck that is i feel like media rate it's just like well there i
00:25:09.940 wanted to give because the Ludlow treated me right gave me a deal me too love the Ludlow we did treat 0.72
00:25:16.040 them right because we talked about screaming in their lobby I think and we talked about oh yeah
00:25:20.220 we sure I mean the burger experiment at the lobby if you think that's negative I don't think it is
00:25:26.080 burger's delicious at any I love the burger and we love the Ludlow at any temperature folks no we
00:25:31.640 really do I'll be begging for the friends and family discount there forever um beauty shamans
00:25:36.100 beauty shamans
00:25:36.740 that thing I sent you
00:25:38.320 I know the face yoga
00:25:39.440 is really overwhelming
00:25:40.620 I have to be doing it
00:25:41.820 I have to be
00:25:42.320 the hands on the face
00:25:43.620 it's everything guys
00:25:45.200 it's everything
00:25:46.300 I want to say something
00:25:47.780 yeah get in with your list
00:25:48.700 okay so here's my little list
00:25:49.600 first thing
00:25:50.120 I would like to say
00:25:51.440 that I for the first time
00:25:52.720 have begun using
00:25:53.560 an eyelash curler
00:25:54.460 whoa
00:25:54.920 now listen
00:25:55.480 I've always been scared
00:25:56.760 of an eyelash curler
00:25:57.540 of course you would
00:25:58.160 you'd be scared
00:25:58.840 you're gonna poke an eye out 0.98
00:26:00.000 like Uncle Fermi
00:26:01.480 I hate when it's used on me
00:26:02.820 in a makeup chair
00:26:03.460 I've never been convinced
00:26:04.420 that it does much
00:26:05.300 i purchased well well well an eye curler when i tell you so i was doing my makeup
00:26:12.080 getting ready for fashion week oh my god i go i'm gonna curl my eyelashes first
00:26:16.600 i curl them i out loud went oh my god into the mirror i could not this is the first time you've
00:26:26.100 experienced this at home you've done this at home it's the first time i've done it where were you
00:26:29.000 when you were 12 because that's when i know i've always been scared and i if i may be so bold i
00:26:34.340 have long eyelashes and i've always been like well my lashes are fine like what do i have to do
00:26:37.460 yeah they were so i got people are gonna think i'm wearing false eyelashes yeah yeah people are
00:26:41.400 gonna think i'm wearing false eyelashes i i could not believe it which you know is legal now yeah
00:26:45.580 it's completely fine but i could not believe they were real is what i'm i just okay i want to take
00:26:50.000 a minute they almost went too far up it was almost shocking okay i have a lot to say help me help me
00:26:55.100 because you don't want it to be straight up okay are you ready are you ready i'm so excited how it
00:26:59.660 It was so fun.
00:27:00.420 First of all,
00:27:01.220 eyelash curler is real.
00:27:02.440 Second of all,
00:27:03.480 way back in the day,
00:27:04.740 word of the street,
00:27:05.520 Shiseido.
00:27:06.380 That was the one.
00:27:07.340 Okay.
00:27:07.680 I remember. 0.99
00:27:08.320 In the fucking day, 0.98
00:27:09.060 Shiseido eyelash curler was like the primo. 0.99
00:27:11.280 Okay.
00:27:11.940 Three.
00:27:12.720 Okay.
00:27:12.980 Here we go, baby.
00:27:13.580 Here we go.
00:27:13.960 Here we go.
00:27:14.480 So I too am cursed with a long eyelash.
00:27:18.920 Okay.
00:27:19.760 And so,
00:27:20.560 you know,
00:27:20.740 it can be a risk of you curl them and then they're just,
00:27:24.060 they're in a full half wheel.
00:27:25.720 Like 90 degree angle.
00:27:26.420 Painting the eyebrow bone.
00:27:29.660 with the mascara that you just put on if they're if they're too curled okay but let's set that
00:27:33.980 aside for a minute so get ready are you ready are you ready this was the tip of the century back in
00:27:39.320 the day blow dryer on the tool before you what does that do aka heat up your curler what does
00:27:53.040 that do it makes it into a hot styling tool now you gotta be careful yeah because the metal
00:27:59.300 because you don't want hot metal on your eyelids you do want nine second heat on that thing that 0.90
00:28:08.960 thing will curl to the moon holy shit now here's the thing you got to be careful of 0.97
00:28:12.420 we're not looking for 90 degree we're not looking for a square i mean unless you are but i don't 0.94
00:28:17.520 think you are but you heat it up now you apply gentle pressure gentle yet heated pressure i went
00:28:23.560 too hard for a soft curl i'm gonna fall asleep this is like feels like asmr completely but 0.97
00:28:29.340 now you gotta test it on your inner wrist just like you would a baby's fucking yeah you know 0.95
00:28:35.520 yeah totally hot milk on the inner wrist before you go to the baby 0.98
00:28:39.240 the inner the inner urge to have a baby just now and it's gone okay um yeah wow okay so i mean but
00:28:50.260 the curler I used to believe like if there was one thing like I was like it's a curler it's
00:28:54.140 mascara and that's all you need wow it's I mean I'm I'm completely changed and I can't believe I
00:29:01.740 spent so many years without it it's astonishing you have to be careful though I mean I like to
00:29:07.640 hold one okay tip the hand up towards the face the right hand let's say is your dominant hand
00:29:15.940 I like to support the elbow of the right hand with the left hand's palm.
00:29:20.020 What does that do?
00:29:21.420 I just always have this fear, okay?
00:29:23.660 The eyelash curl fears.
00:29:24.680 You've gripped onto the eyelashes, right?
00:29:26.880 And then a hawk flies in.
00:29:28.920 Yeah, and you rip it all off.
00:29:29.980 Okay, smashes through your elbow and it all comes off.
00:29:32.740 And I don't even think it's just the lashes coming off.
00:29:35.280 I think it's the list.
00:29:35.900 The whole head.
00:29:37.080 The whole head.
00:29:40.200 Okay, so you have to mentally prepare yourself.
00:29:43.300 It would rip off dirty because there ain't a seam there.
00:29:46.700 You know what I mean?
00:29:47.120 No, it'd be ragged.
00:29:48.080 Yeah, it'd be ragged.
00:29:49.480 I'm in like, okay, so it'd be, so it'd be, this is key.
00:29:55.980 Are you ready?
00:29:56.320 So this is what I've internalized over the years about how to do it safely.
00:30:00.180 You have to prepare yourself that in an absolute emergency, the earthquake, the hawk flying
00:30:04.940 in, that in your panic, you wouldn't seize up and clench harder.
00:30:09.620 Drop the appliance.
00:30:10.900 Let go. 0.79
00:30:11.700 Let go.
00:30:12.100 Let go.
00:30:12.800 okay hawk let go hawk let go okay guys come towards the window okay relax yeah really muscles
00:30:20.560 and if that means you relax your sphincter yeah along with it that means you drop your baby
00:30:25.560 right see this is the question seizing up like they taught us in driver's ed they were like
00:30:33.120 i think this was what they claimed the reason you don't have one foot on the brake and one
00:30:37.520 foot on the pedal that's how you drive okay versus why can't i just have the left foot
00:30:42.400 on the gas and the right foot on the brake right of course of course i know like in a panic slam
00:30:48.140 slam slam you go both feet okay freak out both feet are gonna slam you're gonna accelerate and
00:30:56.420 the gas is gonna win the gas well that's like the horrible thing people getting confused and like
00:31:03.340 hitting you know when it happens driving's terrifying i mean you shouldn't be doing it
00:31:07.640 i don't want to talk about how scary driving it was like being back in l one day yesterday i was
00:31:10.700 driving i was like holy shit this is just outrageous there should be like five people
00:31:17.060 in a city that are allowed to drive right and there's a the only way is public transportation 0.94
00:31:23.280 driven by five people who went through 16 years of school yeah and they drive buses the size of
00:31:29.940 school blocks and see it as a calling city blocks you know it should be sully it's a vocation yeah
00:31:35.320 exactly exactly it's like motherhood should be seen as a vocation as well exactly not as you 0.78
00:31:40.360 just fucking well look at the clock better uh get in the car better yeah you know get a kid going
00:31:46.680 well i have this thing i don't understand i've always wondered why we haven't created 0.98
00:31:51.300 and i'm not calling myself an engineer okay we are there might be answers out there but
00:31:55.800 sometimes here as i look at you with your duct tape dangling your i got so excited
00:32:00.880 i actually tried to take apart this lamp knowing i could put it back together i would never
00:32:04.500 dishonor the ramble to be clear for the listener she has a her microphone is duct taped to the
00:32:09.980 lamp dangling um wait i need to do it i need to do a quick i need a recommendation yes i can't 0.87
00:32:16.260 fucking believe my life has gotten this far i don't have a headband that i wash my face with
00:32:19.940 i repeat i don't have a lot to say about that and i found a solution for us literally last night and 0.93
00:32:25.160 have since forgotten it but i'm going to find it again wait okay but let me just say one thing
00:32:29.040 which is the idea the engineering idea which is just why aren't the cars why are they made of
00:32:34.240 metal right why isn't it all made of squishy whatever yeah we can still get the speed we need
00:32:41.600 why isn't it made of squishy stuff that hits each other and bounces and then huge
00:32:46.800 air like bumpers ask the sides of the roads there it is sometimes you need someone outside
00:32:53.120 of the engineering community to pipe in with a dream with a fresh perspective and here i am boys
00:32:57.120 okay yeah make it mushy
00:33:00.060 engineering tips from the outside save lives that's all i'll say wait what about the headband
00:33:06.840 though because i'm now i'm obsessed with washing my neck i've been neglecting washing my neck
00:33:11.280 last night i went deeper i went lower because of you okay i went lower than i had you know oh i
00:33:19.220 thought about it what no i was singing it because i sent you beauty shamans i think yeah shamans
00:33:25.760 maybe.com or something, but she's got some really appealing videos that just make you go, okay,
00:33:31.220 I got to start identifying as someone who takes care of myself. Like she does. I know, I know.
00:33:37.940 They care. She's like massaging, you know. Massaging yourself is real. And you know, 1.00
00:33:42.640 I watched a video of hers and she's like massaging your ears and she goes releasing tension. Well, 0.99
00:33:47.080 here's what she really got me. She's like the scalp. Yeah. She's like a tight scalp is like 1.00
00:33:50.740 a tight face or whatever. I was like, wait, what? Oh, you want a tight face in a certain regard,
00:33:54.380 but you know what I mean she's like sure the face the scalp we're ignoring it I mean you know scalp
00:33:59.580 care is skincare rubbing the faces and knuckles using your knuckles to massage the jaw well I
00:34:04.880 was thinking of you the whole along the jaw and then the crunchies and then like how every
00:34:08.380 practitioner likes to like say what the crunchies along the jaw are and it's sort of like I'm not
00:34:12.980 convinced but moving lymph is real we know this moving fluid I went low I go on wait wait sorry
00:34:21.360 I got excited
00:34:22.000 I got excited
00:34:22.620 because you said the headband thing
00:34:24.500 and I wanted to solve it
00:34:25.240 because I saw a thing called
00:34:26.640 what was it called 0.99
00:34:27.480 fuck 1.00
00:34:27.920 it was served to me 1.00
00:34:29.560 and I think I bookmarked it
00:34:30.700 it was like silks
00:34:31.860 because I'm wearing this
00:34:32.640 the free people silken thing
00:34:34.580 that
00:34:34.880 the silken pajama set
00:34:36.640 lounge set
00:34:37.400 whatever
00:34:37.680 ooh
00:34:38.180 I don't know
00:34:39.540 it's been life changing for me
00:34:40.720 yeah
00:34:41.360 and so I'm like
00:34:41.980 I've decided I want to be in all
00:34:43.220 silken kind of materials
00:34:44.680 all the time
00:34:45.780 I love silks
00:34:46.740 although I do love
00:34:47.340 I do also love a ripped cotton
00:34:48.860 I won't lie
00:34:49.720 of course
00:34:50.540 but then it was like called something silks maybe i could make this up i could really be
00:34:55.680 making this up it's either called everyday silks or i imagine that completely and it's nothing like
00:35:00.680 that okay okay but there were some very beautiful headbands that seemed to be made for it kind of
00:35:05.740 in that round headband water's getting on their products getting on there i know i don't really
00:35:10.800 understand that i need i've seen like the terry cloth i need something to hold back my hair so
00:35:16.140 i'm so i'm cleansing properly all the way to the hairline without getting the hair away here's
00:35:20.100 here's the question if scalp scare skin care okay why are you taking oh that's what i decided
00:35:26.920 last night i decided i'm gonna apply every single not the creams not the whatever
00:35:31.880 you're already on the amh you're already on the shampoos right that scalp i have to re-up but
00:35:39.420 yeah yeah you have to re-up okay you were gifted once by me it's the best shampoo i've ever used
00:35:43.960 in my life that you bought me and i haven't fully eating the whole thing i need to get it
00:35:47.680 making a note essences so we need to oh i had this realization i was like the head the face 0.77
00:35:53.420 it's a fucking cul-de-sac at the end of the body okay of course we need to work the neck 0.93
00:35:59.340 the neck is i mean it's crazy like it's a dead end up there yeah yeah like this like don't touch 0.99
00:36:07.680 it it's like it's the end of the bottle totally and i was raised with don't touch it and i always
00:36:12.700 felt don't touch your face don't touch your face right we got to touch it and i um
00:36:16.180 wait wait i keep interrupting you and i want you to go through your list i'm really sorry i'm a
00:36:21.380 little high on the day quill no it's fine you're on day quill oh yeah just like i told you yeah
00:36:26.200 i'm starving after this i'm going to go to air one okay wait first of all i have something i
00:36:30.660 want to beg for that i've been disrespected okay do you remember a while ago i wanted an almond
00:36:36.320 cow do you remember this you mean to make your own almond milk yeah so make nut milks of any kind
00:36:41.160 right right now am i correct you're not interested in that right i'm interested in anything no but
00:36:45.960 you know what i mean like a high bay nothing i love so much as i love a product but would you
00:36:50.560 really use one is what i'm asking for real well hold on let me think because what ml can you even
00:36:57.300 drink you're not allergic to almonds yeah i could do almonds so i mean what are you trying to cut
00:37:04.120 the request in half is that what this is about they were not biting if you could give away one
00:37:09.720 They were not biting.
00:37:11.020 You can give away one almond milk maker.
00:37:13.560 You can give away one cow.
00:37:15.120 Wait, but Kate, is this, honestly, 0.99
00:37:16.940 is this anything but a fucking carafe with a strainer? 0.98
00:37:22.180 So, careful. 0.99
00:37:23.720 So, it's a, and my friend yesterday had it.
00:37:27.840 She was telling me, she was like, it's amazing.
00:37:30.380 She was like, you put in nuts, seeds, 0.98
00:37:32.940 whatever the fuck you want, 1.00
00:37:34.700 and it just grinds it to a freaking pulp. 1.00
00:37:37.700 Makes the milk for it.
00:37:39.720 or you know what I mean it's like I don't really know okay let's come clean I don't know you just
00:37:44.280 want it sitting on your counter looking I just want it because listed under benefits your friend
00:37:49.360 has it they're like it's 12 inches tall it strains your milk and three your friend has it all for
00:37:55.240 $19.99 I I so I'm here to formally beg once more for an almond cow I'm back in LA making nut milks
00:38:04.580 I don't want to get back to the world of making my own milks I just can't do it I see I used to
00:38:09.080 do the Vitamix and then straining it and all that Jesus Christ. And I want to make cashew milk. I
00:38:13.860 want to make seed milks. You know, I want to get back into it. So even as I talk, I'm sort of
00:38:19.880 almost talking myself out of it as I talk about it. It's interesting. I'd like one in the mail.
00:38:27.340 Okay. Now also- Did you open your Tom bin yet, by the way?
00:38:31.060 No, I'm saving myself, but I guess what? I'm already planning-
00:38:33.720 You're saving it for a Bacchanalia of Christmas?
00:38:35.180 I'm going back on a plane tomorrow.
00:38:37.480 I'm sorry, next week.
00:38:38.440 I'm already planning on transferring to the Tom bin
00:38:41.020 because the mother carry-on, God bless it.
00:38:43.240 Okay, this is a big deal.
00:38:43.820 I can't do it anymore.
00:38:45.040 And Jacqueline, I need your advice to get,
00:38:47.500 I've had my carry-on suitcase,
00:38:49.260 my trusty wheelie I've had for over 10 years.
00:38:51.440 Yeah.
00:38:51.880 And I need to get rid of it.
00:38:52.900 The handle's been broken.
00:38:54.160 I have duct tape here because my suitcase is broken.
00:38:55.640 What I love about it though, it's deep.
00:38:57.600 It's more square than rectangle.
00:38:59.340 What? 1.00
00:39:00.400 Holy shit. 1.00
00:39:01.180 Kind of. 0.95
00:39:01.540 It's not one of those pilot ones, right?
00:39:03.640 You know those pilot ones?
00:39:05.180 that like are very like strange they're like a wheeled suitcase but they only go up half
00:39:10.680 half height you're like what oh no it's not like that i'll show you but you know those i need a
00:39:16.740 new it's traditional it just goes deep i need a new wheelie carry-on well a few ideas for us but
00:39:22.980 you know if we're going big i won't lie well actually they've dishonored me maybe it's time
00:39:27.400 for a so-and-so caved hashtag who i reached out okay who dishonored you um
00:39:33.780 july dishonored me july luggage it's always worth the fact that i'm giving them an ad right now and
00:39:43.300 this is where i say it's not about eyeballs it's about i mean the fact that i'm literally
00:39:46.800 promoting them despite their rabid disinterest do you see the shine july no no listen let's
00:39:52.280 send out straight to july it's not too late you don't have to be on the dishonor list
00:39:57.340 and guess what i need to carry on desperately so now is your chance i'm looking at the internet
00:40:03.480 Oh, I'm looking at the carry-on pro.
00:40:06.220 Do you see how shiny they are?
00:40:08.120 They're like lacquered.
00:40:09.920 It's very nice.
00:40:11.200 Very drawn to what I'm seeing.
00:40:13.300 So let me tell you what they said.
00:40:14.660 You ready?
00:40:15.440 So I reach out.
00:40:16.720 And there's like seven different angles.
00:40:19.860 I'm like, Kate and I are touring acts. 0.93
00:40:22.980 Damn straight. 0.88
00:40:23.800 One. 0.96
00:40:24.000 Okay.
00:40:25.260 Two.
00:40:26.500 Travel is a huge discussion on our Time Top 10 podcast.
00:40:31.940 Oh, God.
00:40:32.440 Thank you.
00:40:32.800 I'm not going to lamp over.
00:40:34.840 Kate's looking at the luggage, so she's getting a little distracted.
00:40:37.080 So I'll just talk straight to the listener.
00:40:37.980 But I'm listening to him.
00:40:39.100 I'm looking at the luggage.
00:40:40.120 I swear.
00:40:40.360 Are you ready for what they said?
00:40:41.200 I go, I go, I'm like leaving in like five days.
00:40:44.580 I have merch, whatever.
00:40:47.560 They said, thanks for your interest.
00:40:50.300 July's partnership schedule is full.
00:40:52.460 Okay.
00:40:52.900 Their dance card is full.
00:40:56.320 Funny, because this dance floor is the internet and it doesn't have a limited number of squares.
00:41:02.600 on it it's true it's not 24 parquet by 24 parquet it's infinite guess what i'm here on the website
00:41:10.600 i would like the wheelie with the weekender bag that fits perfectly on top but kate i have news
00:41:16.760 for you the tom bin you think you want that okay and we've all been seduced by it okay
00:41:21.460 however the tom bin is you're on top okay okay because one has a luggage pass-through
00:41:29.980 luggage handle pass through you know what that is yeah of course need that essential okay on the
00:41:34.400 back so that's going to slide right on there and then when you get you know when you get there you
00:41:38.780 check it you you haul it up into the thing and then the backpack slides under the seat in front
00:41:43.460 of you and there you have it okay and by the way that's your that's your top that's your top you
00:41:49.200 don't there should be no okay so i just need my bottom yeah i just need the suitcase but i'm pretty
00:41:54.700 pissed when people don't get it oh how dare they july resume your journey says google they like
00:42:00.600 no i've been there and they're like welcome back but yeah there's a forest green that just
00:42:05.440 leaps off the page luggage with personality now i will say is that july in a way must be
00:42:13.380 can you imagine capulet montague cap truly imagine the children lovers
00:42:19.760 meeting no the heirs to july and the heirs to a wife falling in love yeah they're just like
00:42:25.840 they're out at the same packing and then the wedding invite what would the wedding invite be
00:42:29.660 the wedding invite would be a suitcase and it would say wait what would it be weddings in july
00:42:35.700 okay no it'd be it'd be um come away with us oh no because away would be it would be um
00:42:41.880 sail away sail away suited perfectly suited for each other
00:42:47.580 It would be two suitcases. 0.99
00:42:48.980 Oh, you mean if they married and the families got behind it?
00:42:53.320 Yeah, I would mean the children, one child from away, one child from to life.
00:42:57.920 No, and then when they get divorced, are you ready?
00:43:00.540 When they get divorced, it's suitcase. 1.00
00:43:02.340 Oh, yeah, pack your shit and go. 0.99
00:43:04.300 No, I mean because it's a legal case now. 1.00
00:43:06.460 Oh, I just can't get it.
00:43:08.700 But the wedding invite could be.
00:43:12.080 Well, the wedding invite, no, no, it's animated, okay?
00:43:14.580 and it's um it's like okay in from the left rolls in the away with the way music okay in from the
00:43:21.740 right rolls in the july music then you have this beat okay just no you have a low beat first blank
00:43:28.860 screen low beat in from the left july in from the right away okay they roll towards each other the
00:43:34.380 music forms into a mashup okay they bump together and when they bump fireworks oh my god i'm picturing
00:43:43.960 it being narrated by the headspace people this is rider strong and i have a new podcast called
00:43:59.340 the red weather it was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea in 1995 my neighbor
00:44:07.560 and a trainer disappeared from a commune it was hard to wrap your head around it was
00:44:11.360 nature and trees and praying and drugs no i am not your guru and back then i lied to my parents
00:44:20.820 i lied to police i lied to everybody there were years right where i could not say your name i've
00:44:26.600 decided to go back to my hometown in northern california interview my friends family talk to
00:44:30.760 police journalists whomever i can to try to find out what actually happened isn't it a little bit
00:44:36.100 weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend they have had this
00:44:40.680 case for 30 years i'll teach you sons of come around here and my wife boom boom this is the
00:44:48.040 red weather listen to the red weather on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever
00:44:54.160 you get your podcasts hello it's me anna sinfield from the girlfriends the number one hit true crime
00:45:03.140 show that puts women right in the center of their own stories i'm back with more one-off interviews
00:45:09.800 with some truly kick-ass women on The Girlfriend's Spotlight. 1.00
00:45:14.740 I want to introduce you to Sylvia. 0.97
00:45:17.220 I'm going to climb this.
00:45:19.600 And then there's Vaisaka.
00:45:21.700 Let's see how we can stop killing and save lives.
00:45:25.820 Leila dared to ask the question.
00:45:28.320 Is badness hereditary?
00:45:30.340 And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.
00:45:32.440 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived,
00:45:35.280 she wouldn't have died on that fatal night.
00:45:38.220 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,
00:45:39.940 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.
00:45:42.980 I'm not too intimidated by her.
00:45:44.380 What are you talking about? 1.00
00:45:47.340 Listen to The Girlfriend Spotlight on the iHeartRadio app, 1.00
00:45:50.740 Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:45:57.640 Ever feel like you're being chased by the marriage police?
00:46:01.660 Welcome to Boys and Girls, the podcast where dating isn't dating.
00:46:05.240 It's a full-on love triathlon.
00:46:07.820 A morning what-if, an evening maybe, and a 3pm chai with a could-this-please-be-the-one.
00:46:14.980 Because in the arranged marriage universe, you're basically on a sushi conveyor belt.
00:46:19.140 And like raw fish, you've got a shelf life.
00:46:22.760 And the wild part? You're not just looking for someone you like.
00:46:26.080 You're casting for a mythical hero your entire family approves of.
00:46:29.780 A saint, a demigod, a unicorn.
00:46:32.100 I know because years ago, I sacrificed myself to this chaotic, soul-crushing tradition, hoping to find love the correct way. 1.00
00:46:40.580 Boys and Girls is our absurd, cringy, heartfelt ride through the highs and lows of the Indian arranged marriage, 1.00
00:46:46.740 finally giving you the validation and healing you deserve. 0.94
00:46:51.080 Listen to Boys and Girls starting February 19th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:46:58.120 When you feel uncomfortable, what do you put on?
00:47:01.080 Biggie.
00:47:01.880 You put on Biggie when you feel uncomfortable?
00:47:03.340 Because I want to get confident.
00:47:04.520 This is DJ Hester Prince's Music is Therapy,
00:47:07.160 a new podcast from me, a DJ and licensed therapist
00:47:10.560 that asks one simple question.
00:47:13.220 Who do you want to be?
00:47:14.440 And what's the song that can take you there?
00:47:16.680 Music changes what you feel.
00:47:18.420 And what you feel changes what you do, right?
00:47:20.700 That moment where a song shifts something inside you,
00:47:23.920 that's where transformation starts.
00:47:25.920 This year, I'm talking to experts across every area of life,
00:47:29.300 Like personal finance icon Gene Chatzky, New York Times journalist David Gellis,
00:47:34.240 relationship legend Dan Savage, human connection teacher Mark Groves,
00:47:38.680 and the man who shaped my ear more than anyone, Questlove.
00:47:41.940 They'll bring the strategies.
00:47:43.240 I'll pair them with the right records and will teach you how to use the music to make change stick.
00:47:47.980 This isn't just a podcast.
00:47:49.440 It's unconventional therapy for your entire year.
00:47:52.400 Listen to DJ Hester-Krin's Music is Therapy on the iHeartRadio app,
00:47:56.060 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:47:59.300 guys we can't be using olive oil high heat we have to transfer to avocado oil okay i need
00:48:11.320 everyone to listen oh thank you okay olive oil consumed raw extra virgin you're not frying in
00:48:15.440 your olive you're not supposed to fry oh yeah but i just mean sauteing like you're supposed to use
00:48:21.240 olive oil at a low heat so i am guilty of not doing that we all are centuries okay for centuries
00:48:27.160 in the oven i'm roasting vegetables although listen avocado oil we have to transfer we can
00:48:33.380 use ghee we can use avocado oil i wonder if mark hyman is gonna have a book party because 0.59
00:48:40.800 the launch oh shit literally we have to get on that hell can you imagine the low abv cocktails
00:48:47.980 that i know that's what i'm imagining that's what i'm imagining keegan cocktails by the way you know 0.98
00:48:52.340 it's been haunting me from his Instagram last couple of days.
00:48:55.620 So,
00:48:56.440 you know,
00:48:56.940 he pushes,
00:48:57.860 you know,
00:48:58.020 plants and the whole thing plant based,
00:48:59.300 but he's not,
00:48:59.920 he's not like,
00:49:00.760 don't you dare eat meat?
00:49:01.740 He's like,
00:49:02.200 no,
00:49:02.780 condom meat.
00:49:03.300 It's like condom.
00:49:04.840 There it is.
00:49:06.740 Okay.
00:49:06.980 There it is.
00:49:07.460 I've been haunted.
00:49:09.140 I've been like,
00:49:09.740 well,
00:49:10.000 I've always gone heavy on the condom.
00:49:11.860 So meat pasture raised,
00:49:14.120 grass fed on the side.
00:49:16.080 Treated to the criterion collection every Friday night.
00:49:18.780 We have to be doing purple cabbages and collard greens.
00:49:21.280 and seeds, sprouts.
00:49:23.920 You know what I saw?
00:49:24.680 I saw something really wonderful.
00:49:26.840 I wish I could source it
00:49:28.400 because it was just,
00:49:29.380 it was about,
00:49:30.240 it was like a post,
00:49:31.040 but someone was talking
00:49:31.520 about purple cabbage
00:49:32.320 and talking about cabbage
00:49:33.360 and with this poetry,
00:49:34.480 they were like,
00:49:35.120 cabbage, cabbage like
00:49:36.680 lets you take it to the limit
00:49:37.700 and beyond.
00:49:38.560 Like it was like,
00:49:39.160 it was like cabbage can be done,
00:49:40.500 like can be underdone
00:49:41.700 and it's good.
00:49:42.660 Cabbage is unbelievable.
00:49:43.820 By the way,
00:49:44.080 purple cabbage,
00:49:45.280 you buy that,
00:49:45.980 you throw that in your fridge.
00:49:47.260 Dare you not to know.
00:49:48.440 In two weeks,
00:49:49.260 it's as crisp as the day
00:49:50.540 it was born.
00:49:51.080 Yeah.
00:49:51.280 It's crazy.
00:49:52.500 And let's not forget, 0.94
00:49:53.340 we had a poo recipe from years ago
00:49:54.880 from the green cabbage cut into four
00:49:56.720 thrown in the oven.
00:49:58.400 It used to be olive oil.
00:49:59.660 Now we'll say it's avocado oil,
00:50:01.240 doused, salt, pepper, spices,
00:50:03.720 whatever you want. 1.00
00:50:04.700 Let that shit char in there, melt. 1.00
00:50:06.180 It becomes birthday cake. 1.00
00:50:07.240 Okay.
00:50:08.540 I just want to,
00:50:09.620 well, there's this thing.
00:50:10.500 Yeah, I was,
00:50:11.320 there was a period where I was
00:50:11.960 just chopping purple cabbage,
00:50:13.120 throwing it in.
00:50:13.780 The things it does in a pan are just wild.
00:50:17.300 But you said something char.
00:50:19.840 Oh, I posted some very delicious eggs that I got at the San Francisco proper, and it included charred avocado.
00:50:26.640 And someone asked, they said, is that avocado with the skin on?
00:50:30.140 On a grill.
00:50:30.500 Because it was chopped up, and it looked like the skin was still on, which would have been vile.
00:50:34.800 And it was on the grill?
00:50:36.380 And it was, no, the skin was not on.
00:50:38.520 I wanted to be clear. 0.97
00:50:39.180 Those were the char marks.
00:50:40.780 Wow.
00:50:41.400 Okay, so that's what that was.
00:50:42.800 too someone reached out i think sent an email or something and said like okay so we know like 0.93
00:50:47.360 peanuts and banana is not a smoothie what is a fucking smoothie like we're trying to do protein 0.78
00:50:54.300 to smoothie like i was like i don't know i have to research i'm exhausted like we have to create 0.99
00:50:58.740 a poog smoothie yeah that's what i was lying in bed thinking and that would be an erewan bitch 0.74
00:51:02.600 well there it is yeah and i just that would be huge the question is we could link up with mark 0.99
00:51:09.560 hymen both of our muscle i got wait i do want to show you i got the most sorry beautiful blendy
00:51:15.540 bottle you've ever seen in your life are you ready what's a blendy bottle wait okay
00:51:19.300 oh i also have a huge idea i have a huge idea for ag that plug in about really quick before we go
00:51:29.780 which is pretty look who's talking 1999 wait talk to me jacqueline i've never i didn't know
00:51:37.680 you were in possession of one of those so I've seen those over the years I ordered it to the
00:51:40.960 hotel they're always upsetting to me for some reason okay I ordered it to the hotel because
00:51:45.880 I had to sacrifice my blend jet at a previous hotel why because I needed more room for merch
00:51:52.380 and you left it I left it behind nice and clean hoping someone would want it the thing was I
00:52:00.940 realized it wasn't really pulverizing a lemon so then it became kind of just knives whipping around
00:52:05.940 athletic greens which are not necessary you just need to shake right so i said i'm letting it go
00:52:11.320 i had to pare down i mean i wasn't really getting on the plane yeah yeah by the way first you know
00:52:16.440 whatever depending on what ticket you get right first bag free or second bag free third bag
00:52:22.320 150 dollars isn't that funny i mean i guess well guess what honey got it jet blue your your
00:52:28.900 overweight bags 150 right out of the gate this no this isn't even overweight you want to pack a
00:52:33.940 thimble. Anyway, so
00:52:36.540 huge idea.
00:52:38.720 I just want to say, do I save it?
00:52:41.400 Do I save it for the
00:52:42.680 collab? With Mark Hyman?
00:52:44.400 Well, no, this is an AG idea.
00:52:46.660 I'll just say this. If they ever do it
00:52:48.760 in my name, it doesn't go on it. 1.00
00:52:50.700 Fuck you. 1.00
00:52:52.680 Okay. 1.00
00:52:54.000 We're locking in here. AG Savory.
00:52:57.700 We removed the
00:52:58.720 stevia. Okay.
00:53:00.060 Okay.
00:53:00.300 yeah yeah yeah okay it's not serving us if we want our ag sweet we can add in a sweetener
00:53:08.460 okay ag needs to be able to go two directions it needs to be able to the powder needs to be
00:53:12.480 something you can put your sweet smoothie if you want or it needs to be able to go in your gazpacho
00:53:16.340 or it needs to be go in your green sort of gazpacho-esque salt olive oil kind of
00:53:22.480 do you see yikes remove i don't know i'm a little bit on the stevia add your own i don't want to be
00:53:28.080 consuming stevia all the time but add your own okay but so you don't know what a blendy bottle
00:53:33.280 does it just you shake it up it has a i mean it's for powder yeah but it has a piece of it has a
00:53:39.540 metal globe much like the ball that drops on new year's eve okay yeah it has a metal structure or
00:53:47.080 attempts to drop and just like the metal elevator you know from new year's eve okay finally free
00:53:54.280 floating because i mean here's a question when you shake up your ag do you use the ag bottle that
00:53:58.800 comes with it by the way once again we're not being paid for this i mean yes they advertise but
00:54:02.700 do i shake it up yes now in the in their bottle yeah yeah do you have any issue with it getting
00:54:07.700 stuck on the bottom wow and she knows the answer already sometimes the water's too cold this is
00:54:15.900 what they call a consumer pain point okay do you love that do you know that yeah this is like pain
00:54:21.920 Like, product development slash, like, marketing, like, brand, whatever.
00:54:25.900 Like, consumer pain point.
00:54:28.720 Okay.
00:54:29.660 Like, you know, you try to develop a product that gets in there and, like, where a consumer has pain, you solve, I guess.
00:54:36.880 I don't even know.
00:54:37.480 I just have heard it, used it, and not really sure.
00:54:39.600 But, like, I remember this ad that was, like, tired of chasing a sausage around the skillet with your spatula.
00:54:49.340 you know yeah and they then they had a like special spatula they're just like or something
00:54:56.560 or a different kind of um like pan where the sausage didn't they were observing people in
00:55:02.760 their kitchens going wild unable to it's a consumer pain point and you don't realize it
00:55:06.820 until they they remind you so they go it's consumer insight they go tired or okay or
00:55:13.380 sometimes they put it in the first person or the uh like you know like i want my blah blah blah to
00:55:19.440 be blah blah blah but another one do you wish that your brownies that every brownie in the pan 0.53
00:55:26.760 could be an edge brownie and then they create that pan that has edges that was sinister to me 0.82
00:55:34.120 you think that was ungodly i remember seeing that i think it's sky mall or something yeah and being 0.81
00:55:39.100 like we can't you cannot fuck with nature to me that is rewriting the laws of nature that's 0.96
00:55:47.680 godless that's it's godless and it's like well guess what guess what there is a reason not every 0.97
00:55:53.620 brownie is the corner wait not every brownie can be the corner but is it there's a reason we're
00:55:59.600 born and then we die it's what makes life that's what it is it's it's you have the updated brownie
00:56:04.240 pan is a rejection of the third face of the divine feminine crone and death folks yeah i mean we know
00:56:13.240 this and yet and yet eternal son will run for it will run for it will run and run and run the denial 0.65
00:56:18.800 of death yeah i know i know i guess what fear of death is actually fear of life there you know
00:56:25.160 no that's not me that's that's pima and there are something you and me are heading into academia
00:56:29.920 and quick i'm actually in an unprecedented move i'm gonna read from my pima really quickly
00:56:37.380 this is good okay okay let's hear it to be fully alive fully human and completely awake
00:56:43.460 is to be continually thrown out of the nest to live fully is to always be in no man's land
00:56:48.880 to experience each moment as completely new and fret wait cut i'm self-conscious wait i'm going
00:56:54.200 back okay okay why okay here we go here we go here we go this is the good part this is the
00:56:58.040 This is the real part to live, to live is to be willing to die over and over again.
00:57:04.060 Death is wanting to hold on to what you have and to have every experience confirm you and
00:57:08.460 congratulate you and make you feel completely together. So even if you say, okay, this is
00:57:14.240 getting into phrases that you, the point is we talk about fear of death. It's actually fear of
00:57:18.820 life. Okay. Wait, wait, wait, you're panicking. I'm panicking. You can feel it, right? And
00:57:22.060 you don't need to, it's all there. Okay. Just, just breathe for a second. Okay. I know the panic
00:57:27.100 because I do this a lot
00:57:28.060 I know you're still searching
00:57:29.000 you're searching
00:57:29.420 you're searching for the one quote 0.99
00:57:30.420 that's going to fucking stick him 0.99
00:57:31.380 it's like when I was sending you 0.99
00:57:32.520 Carolyn Mace
00:57:33.060 and I kept being like
00:57:33.880 like wait
00:57:34.560 I haven't found the perfect one
00:57:35.540 I'm going to hook you
00:57:36.620 okay
00:57:37.380 but it's like
00:57:38.220 no it's white knuckling
00:57:41.360 it's
00:57:41.780 it's
00:57:42.260 death is the
00:57:43.840 you know
00:57:44.100 it's the white knuckle grip
00:57:45.020 you're still searching
00:57:45.800 you're still shopping
00:57:46.480 you're still shopping
00:57:47.240 I'm still shopping
00:57:48.040 were you just
00:57:49.680 are you dissatisfied by the quote
00:57:51.080 because it felt too abstract to you
00:57:52.420 like almost too simplistic
00:57:53.420 no
00:57:53.580 I think I got
00:57:54.640 oh isn't this sad
00:57:57.100 The most heartbreaking thing of all is how we cheat ourselves out of the
00:57:59.880 present moment.
00:58:01.960 I,
00:58:02.720 yeah,
00:58:04.440 I,
00:58:04.740 I suddenly,
00:58:05.400 I couldn't do it.
00:58:06.320 I can't.
00:58:06.620 You heard yourself reading a quote from a,
00:58:08.620 I heard myself reading Pima Chodron on my podcast and suddenly I felt
00:58:12.160 completely alienated.
00:58:13.700 No,
00:58:13.740 no,
00:58:13.840 I know.
00:58:14.720 Cause there are moments like,
00:58:15.680 I'd love to keep that for the discussion of the embarrassment of reading
00:58:20.820 Pima.
00:58:21.400 Right.
00:58:21.800 Like the embarrassment of like,
00:58:23.340 you know,
00:58:23.620 on your podcast.
00:58:24.840 Okay.
00:58:25.160 Yeah.
00:58:25.940 So,
00:58:26.240 But I wish there was a way that like when something is something we want to not stand by, but leave that there was like music that underscores it.
00:58:36.600 Oh, yeah.
00:58:36.840 Okay.
00:58:37.700 As a thematic.
00:58:39.080 Yeah.
00:58:39.220 So they know.
00:58:40.000 So they know.
00:58:41.520 You're like that.
00:58:42.080 Hey, this isn't.
00:58:43.220 We don't stand by this.
00:58:44.420 Yeah, that's good.
00:58:45.320 All right.
00:58:45.480 We'll talk about that soon.
00:58:46.540 We'll have to work on that.
00:58:47.400 My COVID test is negative.
00:58:49.400 I'm going to go to Erewhon.
00:58:50.680 Maybe I'll snap some pics.
00:58:51.660 I'm starving.
00:58:53.020 All right.
00:58:53.280 I'm going to massage my jaw and continue quarantine.
00:58:56.240 There's something about knowing that you're right there in the room.
00:58:58.700 It's like kind of cozy.
00:58:59.680 That feels safe to you.
00:59:00.780 Yeah.
00:59:01.060 Like I'm like, I got her right there.
00:59:03.840 I'm not off with any dear friends.
00:59:05.380 You're like a butterfly pinned to the wall.
00:59:08.140 Your wings pinned onto the cork board by two delicate needles.
00:59:12.460 I can't die over and over again.
00:59:13.620 You're white knuckling me.
00:59:14.320 I got you right where I want you.
00:59:16.220 Okay.
00:59:16.980 Oh my God.
00:59:17.420 I actually just got excited.
00:59:18.360 I was like, yeah, let's hear it.
00:59:20.240 Then you hesitated.
00:59:21.500 I got excited about a future FaceTime, maybe tonight, both in bed.
00:59:25.320 Yeah, exactly. I could see you got dollar signs in your eyes, but the dollar signs were me.
00:59:29.860 I know. Okay. Love you.
00:59:36.220 That was POOG.
00:59:38.600 If you enjoyed POOG, please subscribe, rate, and review.
00:59:42.380 If not, we will press charges.
00:59:49.420 Then she says, have you seen a photo of my son?
00:59:52.500 And I'm like, who is this person?
00:59:54.080 Welcome to the Boys and Girls Podcast.
00:59:56.520 Arranged marriage is basically a reality show, and you're auditioning for your soulmate.
01:00:01.680 And who's judging? Only your entire family?
01:00:04.640 I sacrificed myself to this ancient tradition, hoping to find love the right way.
01:00:09.640 And instead, I found chaos, comedy, and a lot of cringe.
01:00:13.700 Listen to Boys and Girls starting February 19th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
01:00:20.220 When you feel uncomfortable, what do you put on?
01:00:23.080 Biggie.
01:00:23.520 You put on Biggie when you feel uncomfortable?
01:00:25.420 Because I want to get confident.
01:00:26.500 This is DJ Hester-Prince Music is Therapy,
01:00:29.040 a new podcast from me, a DJ and licensed therapist.
01:00:33.160 12 months, 12 areas of your life.
01:00:35.660 Money, love, career, confidence.
01:00:37.900 This isn't just a podcast.
01:00:39.480 It's unconventional therapy for your entire year.
01:00:43.200 Listen to DJ Hester-Prince Music is Therapy
01:00:45.520 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
01:00:48.240 or wherever you get your podcasts.
01:00:50.000 This is Ryder Strong,
01:00:51.280 and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.
01:00:53.520 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune.
01:00:57.840 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.
01:01:01.680 No, I am not your guru.
01:01:05.320 Back then, I lied to everybody.
01:01:07.640 They have had this case for 30 years.
01:01:10.580 I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth.
01:01:14.340 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
01:01:20.580 You know Roald Dahl.
01:01:21.800 he thought up Willy Wonka and the BFG.
01:01:24.680 But did you know he was a spy?
01:01:26.960 In the new podcast, The Secret World of Roald Dahl,
01:01:29.900 I'll tell you that story and much, much more.
01:01:32.780 What?
01:01:33.660 You probably won't believe it either.
01:01:35.380 Was this before he wrote his stories?
01:01:37.100 It must have been.
01:01:38.440 Okay, I don't think that's true.
01:01:40.480 I'm telling you, the guy was a spy.
01:01:43.360 Listen to The Secret World of Roald Dahl
01:01:45.340 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
01:01:48.000 or wherever you get your podcasts.
01:01:49.380 This is an iHeart Podcast.
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