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00:02:36.080 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:37.620 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

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00:02:56.540 so it's really too bad that we tried to just so everyone understands we tried to record to get

00:03:04.700 some of my crying but we couldn't get it to record well actually i said can we record and you said

00:03:10.480 no and then we tried app like and then i broke down and said i was gonna try anyway that's true

00:03:14.300 my first instinct was no these aren't tears for them but what i wanted to capture was just and

00:03:20.280 They were not heavy tears.

00:03:21.420 They were just literally...

00:03:22.240 No, they weren't heavy.

00:03:23.360 If anything, they were joy.

00:03:24.880 It was gratitude.

00:03:26.220 Well, the tears actually were gratitude.

00:03:28.080 I was reflecting on gratitude and I started sobbing.

00:03:30.120 But then you started sobbing.

00:03:31.100 Now, what I wanted to stop you, and this is obviously covered in my book, but you made 0.99

00:03:37.980 a goddamn mistake. 0.99

00:03:39.800 Okay. 1.00

00:03:39.920 You made a commoner's mistake.

00:03:41.760 Okay.

00:03:41.960 With your tears.

00:03:42.560 Because you started saying like, oh God, I don't want to have puffy eyes or whatever.

00:03:45.960 Right.

00:03:46.120 Yeah.

00:03:46.360 And I was like, wait, no.

00:03:48.420 because you were like doing that.

00:03:49.620 You were straining the entire face in the sob.

00:03:51.940 Okay.

00:03:52.940 Like, so like, okay.

00:03:55.700 Okay.

00:03:56.140 You're like, okay.

00:03:58.140 And then it's sort of like, like, like almost like, like, and you have to relax the face.

00:04:04.620 And let the tears just.

00:04:05.500 And you have to let them.

00:04:07.060 I mean, I say tip down 90, if you can bend at the hip.

00:04:10.540 And let the tears just.

00:04:11.340 Tip down, make your body into a full thing.

00:04:14.180 Let them fall straight to the ground.

00:04:15.340 How do you not just.

00:04:15.980 It's the wiping and the pressing and the whole thing.

00:04:18.200 Okay.

00:04:18.420 You just have to let them fall if you want to have the least effect on the eyes.

00:04:23.700 Interesting.

00:04:24.900 Also, you know what I forgot about?

00:04:26.960 The old spoon in the fridge or the freezer trick.

00:04:30.880 Is that really?

00:04:31.620 I don't know.

00:04:32.180 There's something about that.

00:04:33.060 It's like so 1940s.

00:04:34.200 Jacqueline, it's real.

00:04:34.880 It's real.

00:04:35.660 It's very 40s, but it's real.

00:04:37.040 And of course, I long for it.

00:04:38.460 And I saw I had a facial at Sunday Skin Care in New York.

00:04:41.640 And Suzanne, the facialist, really in a video showed me.

00:04:45.420 And I was also skeptical. 0.99

00:04:46.940 I was like, she did one eye in front of me on the video with the spoon and I saw a fucking 0.99

00:04:53.660 difference. 0.99

00:04:54.600 Pressure points, boom, boom, around the eye with the cold spoon.

00:04:59.820 Wait, the spoon was face down like a cup being lowered over your eye versus.

00:05:06.000 No, it was the protruding part, the convex part hitting the pressure.

00:05:10.360 I was going to say, not just over the eyeball, but like around the eye.

00:05:13.960 Okay.

00:05:14.220 There was something about the way you did it that made it seem like the edges.

00:05:16.940 of yeah the concave you know and i saw how is there chocolate on my hand okay and i saw um

00:05:23.520 a difference okay so i have that i'll be fine but i just want to say that i went to the coffee

00:05:29.680 shop this morning and they're playing and i truly was like about to cry loving it

00:05:38.200 and i looked outside and i just saw people walking in the streets of new york and i was like

00:05:45.840 are you kidding me yeah I get to be alive man yeah and I started to freak out and then I was

00:05:52.840 my turn to go up and the coffee shop guy who normally is a little you know I get it he's

00:05:57.440 busy you know I've tried to kind of break through haven't quite been able to yeah and I was like

00:06:01.440 tap tap tap waiting for the tree to fall tap on the creme brulee shell hello hello hello anyone

00:06:06.940 under there just an egg or yeah and then the cream let's just say the top broke and the sweet cream

00:06:12.580 came out because I was like, I love that you're playing this. And he lit up. He was like, right.

00:06:18.060 And I said, I got to start playing this in the morning. There it is. That is coffee shop. That

00:06:22.180 is when you're soaring in New York City on a brisk sunny morning. Oh, I left. And you are

00:06:26.720 elated. Connecting with people. By the way, connecting with people, folks. And I took a

00:06:30.460 sip of my coffee, burnt my tongue instantly. And I thought, that's okay. And I almost texted you.

00:06:35.340 Like I burnt my tongue. I was like, just feel it alone. And I was like, that's gross. You really

00:06:41.800 do love to be witnessed. You need it so deeply. I'm doing a lot of work around that right now.

00:06:46.160 Really? Are you texting me your cut? Oh, yeah. I texted you a photograph of my cut.

00:06:51.680 You're like, my keys just scratched my hand. And then I looked down and I had the same scratch.

00:06:55.420 I know. That's cool. And then you were upset about a pimple and then

00:06:57.640 one appeared on my face. And then you got the same pimple.

00:07:00.140 A day later. That's the main thing the last few days. And I did post on the Poogram last night,

00:07:04.760 a subterranean demon that has been brewing, never came to full fruition through the skin, 0.94

00:07:09.840 but it's been ruining my life. Really, really, really bothering me. And I almost, I was going

00:07:16.000 to get a cortisone shot. Yeah. I was excited for you. There's something about that. I've heard

00:07:19.680 these, these cortisone shots. I haven't had a cortisone shot in years.

00:07:22.200 There wasn't enough there. Like the, like the needle was going to eclipse the like pimple 0.94

00:07:27.360 entirely. Like it was like, it felt too small. The next day, cause I did get this facial where 0.98

00:07:32.540 a lot of LED and oxygen, all this stuff was being done. It did reduce by half. So I woke up and I,

00:07:38.120 No. But let me tell you this. I was so depressed. I was backstage about to go on putting on makeup.

00:07:43.300 Yeah.

00:07:43.700 Huge bump on the face over the zit. So it's not red, but it's like a huge bump under. And I was

00:07:48.160 like, well, I'm not going on.

00:07:49.720 Well, you'll recall. I'm the one who pointed that very thing out.

00:07:51.820 What?

00:07:52.580 That no one would really see because it wasn't red.

00:07:54.560 Yeah. Well, I'm here to say that they could absolutely see. But I was backstage and I texted

00:08:00.160 a friend who's really into skincare and gets like all these fancy facials.

00:08:05.240 Me?

00:08:05.820 And he, it wasn't you.

00:08:07.900 Yeah, I know.

00:08:09.280 But I also got a text.

00:08:10.660 So I guess you called the tribunal on this one.

00:08:12.920 Sprayed it.

00:08:14.120 Well, no, that's how do you think I was getting into the cortisone shot?

00:08:16.440 So literally, my friend goes to Sophie Pavitt in Instagram.

00:08:20.280 I'm happy to drop her name because she did immediately respond to my DM because I was spiraling.

00:08:25.040 And I've wanted to go to a facial for her in New York for a while.

00:08:27.700 And she was like, okay, this is the place you go, you know, get the whatever.

00:08:32.860 I could not believe the concierge, the attention I was getting.

00:08:35.740 I instantly felt really witnessed healed seen loved um and then I was like I'm gonna go get

00:08:42.520 the injection in the morning woke up it wasn't as bad I thought no I'm not me along with you

00:08:46.320 oh yeah very very strange aren't you what do you mean that I wanted you to come with me no I'm

00:08:52.080 just taking you in in totality I'm thinking I'm reflecting on sort of your journey with your skin

00:08:57.120 the last couple days and sort of all the people that have been brought in to support you okay

00:09:01.320 and me realizing that like okay when a text comes in like that from you when I happen to be because

00:09:06.120 I was also about to go on stage because we were twins this week right not do not think that I was

00:09:10.500 drop everything okay okay and it's like you're texting six at once it's not I was texting with

00:09:17.660 a facial I was dming with a facialist and texting with you and that's not that doesn't mean I don't

00:09:23.300 need you I need you the most so don't go anywhere don't start thinking that I have others I'll ask

00:09:28.220 I'll be like, sorry, there's others in the room.

00:09:30.580 I'll tell you.

00:09:31.480 Remember when I've been like, sometimes I'll almost go like, is this C&P?

00:09:36.400 Huh?

00:09:37.080 Copied and pasted.

00:09:39.500 I don't copy and paste.

00:09:40.840 I'm not one of those people.

00:09:42.700 I'm not that sick.

00:09:43.240 I mean, that's bold.

00:09:45.540 So first of all, you say nothing of us having coffee together.

00:09:49.480 No, I'm coming.

00:09:50.620 You mean yesterday?

00:09:51.840 Yeah, we saw it.

00:09:52.460 We were in person.

00:09:53.500 We're going to talk about it.

00:09:54.160 I mean, I've said nothing.

00:09:56.280 We're about to get into it.

00:09:56.840 It was the biggest event of the last couple of days.

00:09:58.120 Five minutes in.

00:09:59.400 We were seen.

00:10:00.320 We were seen by none.

00:10:02.400 We were protected.

00:10:03.420 We were safe.

00:10:03.860 We were screaming at the Ludlow.

00:10:05.080 We were screaming at the Ludlow.

00:10:06.440 Having an amazing coffee, morning meeting, the laughter.

00:10:12.020 Unbelievable to be with you physically in person.

00:10:14.100 There were a couple moments where, you know, it was like, okay, are we disturbing the lobby?

00:10:18.800 I don't care.

00:10:21.040 I feel I'm usually really hyper aware of that.

00:10:23.400 I really hate being loud.

00:10:24.720 And like, I think we're fine.

00:10:26.060 It was pretty empty.

00:10:27.500 I'm not normally aware of that.

00:10:28.580 And I actually have to say something.

00:10:29.280 Let me take that back.

00:10:29.900 I'm very loud.

00:10:30.700 Okay.

00:10:31.260 Okay.

00:10:31.520 But I'm loud with you because I'm screaming laughing, but I just think it's okay.

00:10:35.820 It wasn't very crowded.

00:10:37.000 Also, I'm sorry.

00:10:38.800 Areas are supposed to be social areas.

00:10:41.060 If you're, if everyone's there with their laptop, like.

00:10:44.060 Yeah.

00:10:44.660 That's on them.

00:10:45.360 It's not your office.

00:10:46.920 Right.

00:10:47.040 So we're supposed to congregate and be merry.

00:10:49.760 We're not supposed to.

00:10:50.540 This is not a workplace environment.

00:10:52.340 And I don't mind if they want to work.

00:10:53.720 I don't mind if they pull out a full filing cabinet.

00:10:56.360 I really don't.

00:10:56.800 I support it

00:10:57.340 but you know

00:10:58.480 it's on them

00:10:58.940 to manage noise

00:10:59.840 and that's where

00:11:00.760 they purchase 1.00

00:11:01.480 their own damn 1.00

00:11:02.180 noise canceling 1.00

00:11:03.840 yeah

00:11:04.300 they're fine

00:11:05.360 they're fine

00:11:05.820 it was so fun

00:11:06.520 to be around you

00:11:07.060 so much so

00:11:07.760 that I woke up

00:11:08.320 extra early today

00:11:09.200 remember we ordered

00:11:09.440 the burger

00:11:09.880 we ordered the burger

00:11:11.240 okay

00:11:11.580 there's a lot to cover

00:11:12.660 okay

00:11:13.000 days ago

00:11:13.940 lunch

00:11:15.020 I arrived so grumpy

00:11:16.160 and hungry

00:11:16.540 I feel I never

00:11:17.540 apologized for that

00:11:18.280 adequately

00:11:18.660 I didn't notice

00:11:21.580 I don't really

00:11:22.160 I don't really

00:11:22.940 expect moods

00:11:24.020 out of people

00:11:24.640 like I'm not like

00:11:25.880 huh 0.99

00:11:27.520 Like, I'm not like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:11:29.360 She wasn't cheery here. 0.99

00:11:30.700 I mean, I wasn't that bad.

00:11:31.580 Take you as you are.

00:11:32.280 My dream, I guess.

00:11:33.560 To be accepted.

00:11:34.240 But we got the burgers.

00:11:36.800 Sure did.

00:11:37.400 Lettuce bun.

00:11:38.640 Well, with a show and a mere hours, I simply cannot.

00:11:43.300 Even that burger was a little much for me pre-show.

00:11:45.740 It's a little heavy.

00:11:47.140 And then the next day I went a little heavy.

00:11:49.240 And it's, you know, I prefer Bacchanalia post-show.

00:11:53.300 No, me too.

00:11:53.820 You and I are the same.

00:11:54.740 it's not doesn't feel good to be digesting while you're performing it's just not

00:11:58.540 it's really not ideal literally a couple things one you warned me you were like they're weird

00:12:02.760 about substitutions here you're like you can't do it you can't do it so you were like pitching

00:12:06.780 that you were going to go get like bib lettuce okay at a local place go to the corner and buy

00:12:11.900 butter lettuce for us i was like get organic girl not gotham greens because at gotham greens

00:12:15.760 you gotta rinse it so you were like pitching this whole lettuce thing and i was like great but i was

00:12:21.740 like I really think I can get it done like at the hotel you're like they're really worried like they

00:12:24.780 do not allow I'm like they're like French like chefs you know what I mean like yeah and then

00:12:29.460 like the first day I went up really nervous and I was like hey you know like whatever can I get

00:12:33.600 two eggs over medium like no potatoes like panicked and then I was like can I get like

00:12:39.640 salad or something I forget whatever they did it the point they didn't even blink okay so I was

00:12:44.480 like wait what it's like we fully can get it without the bun here we don't have to pick it

00:12:48.160 apart ourselves and then you literally started in with how you so what tour manager emma right

00:12:57.460 she had gotten a burger the day before right so we have more evidence of the burgers okay so day

00:13:03.260 before emma got it she ordered medium rare it arrived what you would call medium well yep and

00:13:11.560 we have footage okay so we go okay now you once again okay so the next day based on that you're

00:13:16.980 going well we can't have that happen so and so you want medium so you're going so I guess we need to

00:13:23.360 order it rare like you're like I don't know do we order it rare I mean like certainly medium rare

00:13:28.820 you start and then you're like no no if we're gonna go up we're gonna say yesterday I know

00:13:33.440 and I literally and like I'm like pleased that I've come to this piece which is like

00:13:38.560 all you can do is order what you want because yeah it could be above that like it could be over

00:13:45.120 or under it, or it could land.

00:13:47.100 Let's take a second with that. All you can do is

00:13:49.100 order what you want.

00:13:51.460 Here come the tears again.

00:13:53.580 Okay, so...

00:13:54.960 By the way, I hear something...

00:13:56.980 I was like, God, the walls here are

00:13:59.100 thin, right? Really?

00:14:01.140 And then I hear someone come in, and I'm like,

00:14:02.940 I'm checking out today. And they're like, your door

00:14:05.020 is open. Can I close it?

00:14:09.140 And actually, a neighbor in your hall?

00:14:11.600 No, like someone

00:14:12.920 who cleans the room? Yeah, but I don't understand.

00:14:14.580 the door

00:14:15.160 your door was open

00:14:16.200 just full on open

00:14:17.080 and this happened

00:14:18.160 a couple times here

00:14:18.860 like

00:14:19.040 you just don't close your door

00:14:21.140 the door isn't quite

00:14:21.940 swing shut

00:14:22.700 on its own

00:14:23.740 by the way

00:14:24.160 you're correct

00:14:24.760 because whenever I leave

00:14:25.940 the rooms there

00:14:27.020 you kind of have to

00:14:27.720 yeah

00:14:28.000 yeah

00:14:28.700 god I love hotels

00:14:30.620 so

00:14:32.200 we're talking about the burgers

00:14:33.080 let's go back

00:14:34.120 oh yeah

00:14:34.900 so you're trying to do

00:14:36.240 that thing again

00:14:36.800 okay we're trying to

00:14:37.460 whatever

00:14:37.660 and so we ordered

00:14:38.220 what we wanted

00:14:39.380 we let the chips fall

00:14:40.860 where they may

00:14:41.360 yeah

00:14:41.860 and I thought it was delicious

00:14:44.480 but we thought it was still a little low.

00:14:46.400 I mean, there is no...

00:14:47.580 Slightly on the well side.

00:14:49.040 But yeah, no, I...

00:14:49.880 Camera inside the burger is what I say.

00:14:52.000 Yeah.

00:14:52.240 Okay, so while you're cooking,

00:14:53.180 instead of a temperature...

00:14:54.380 Well, actually, no.

00:14:54.820 What about a literal needle thin?

00:14:56.780 Video camera.

00:14:58.060 Just even a needle thin temperature, though.

00:15:00.740 I mean, they say that's what it's really about.

00:15:02.480 You know, like meat thermometers.

00:15:04.080 Needle thin.

00:15:05.540 Gently insert into the burger.

00:15:07.420 Why a needle? 0.94

00:15:07.940 Get the temp.

00:15:08.780 When they're already thin.

00:15:09.560 Because I don't want a hole,

00:15:10.400 it's just like a big poked hole.

00:15:11.600 But meat thermometers aren't like that.

00:15:12.980 I mean, they're pretty delicate.

00:15:14.900 But I'm more excited about a camera working its way through.

00:15:17.140 I think a camera on the edges is fun.

00:15:20.000 I just want to say also with like, because I really do enjoy it.

00:15:22.720 It doesn't feel like for me, if I want a lettuce wrapped burger,

00:15:26.280 it's not some like punishing active restriction.

00:15:28.980 Like I really sometimes just want like the lettuce around the meat.

00:15:32.420 But I don't like how we had it was basically fork and knife with the thing.

00:15:37.560 I like to pick it up encased in crunchy cold lettuce.

00:15:41.140 that to me is. I don't want the spine of an iceberg. Interesting. Yeah, you want a butter

00:15:47.800 lettuce. You want the spine of an iceberg? No, okay, I don't want the spine. That's wet,

00:15:51.100 crunchy. No, there are certain lettuces that are so good for wraps, like the big bib. I think the

00:15:57.680 bib, a couple layers of the bib. Butter lettuce. It's really, really good. Now, I don't necessarily

00:16:03.000 need to pick it up, okay? It varies for me. So, I'll sometimes do a Shake Shack, okay? Lettuce

00:16:10.160 wrap now if I order in Shake Shack that is a fucking risk because let me tell you oh that 0.98

00:16:14.800 lettuce as hell soggy as that a lot it's a wet rag that's like the worst yeah yeah it's like 0.96

00:16:21.440 torn rag it's way too thin they should you know I don't know but so a lot of times I end up ditching

00:16:26.220 it but that when something a burger comes in a box like that like like Shake Shack does I'm like

00:16:31.620 ordering it because I want the experience of like the fast food memory kind of of like cardboard

00:16:35.820 box opening up and then me picking something up and eating it oh i just had this my face just lit

00:16:40.780 up because i had this flash forward thing of like oh my god when i fly to new york i'll go to shake

00:16:44.760 shack for dinner before the flight yes but is it the delta it's the jet blue terminal isn't that

00:16:48.980 where the shake shack is at jfk i think it might um now be both oh mama or you were you were trying

00:16:54.700 to force it to be jet blue because that's what you're flying i'm flying home jet blue you're

00:16:58.220 like it's jet blue right i did the thing where because you know when you book a flight and they

00:17:02.140 a 24 hour risk-free cancellation. I booked a flight on Delta coach. You texted me about this.

00:17:07.980 Okay. This is, this is what I'm talking about. Okay. You text me like, it's like, it's like,

00:17:14.260 you're, you're doing the, like, you're doing the thing, like the non-calling the tribunal thing,

00:17:18.680 which is that you're affirming your own decision. Okay. I didn't consult anyone before doing it,

00:17:24.240 which is a step. Definitely. No. But so, so what you do now is this thing, like, like,

00:17:28.260 I'll see like three texts, which are you rationalizing a decision, like having already

00:17:31.440 made it to me. So it's just like, hey, you're like, book the JetBlue. Sometimes you run prices

00:17:37.040 by me. You're like, or whatever. I had to do it. And then you're like, I'm just getting a text that

00:17:42.580 just says like, literally, whatever. I'm just going to pull it up because it's like, what's

00:17:46.640 it called? Oh, cancellation, risk-free. Yeah. Cancellation because I booked on Delta.

00:17:52.480 Those prices are high. This is just a regular main cabin seat. Sure are, baby. Damn. And then

00:17:58.520 And I went over to JetBlue, found one that was a couple hundred dollars cheaper.

00:18:02.900 So then, of course, I booked that one, canceled the Delta.

00:18:05.540 Felt like Erin Brockovich doing impossible filing, dealing with documents.

00:18:10.800 I was picturing you sitting around.

00:18:12.020 The other day, I was picturing you booking a flight.

00:18:14.640 Yeah.

00:18:14.900 I don't know.

00:18:16.140 It's funny for some reason.

00:18:17.360 Imagine you typing in your stuff.

00:18:22.300 Just you in a room.

00:18:23.440 Okay, why?

00:18:24.360 That's what I was doing.

00:18:25.220 I was topless just booking the flight.

00:18:27.060 Why isn't it taking me back?

00:18:28.520 So the point was, it's just like, it's like, you're like, went for it.

00:18:31.480 You're like, booked the risk-free cancellation.

00:18:34.940 It must be, I mean, 80 bucks, but totally worth it, I say.

00:18:37.800 Or something like, you know what I mean?

00:18:38.780 Like, it was like, it was like, you're like, like worth it.

00:18:41.320 I mean, you know.

00:18:42.380 And so it's like, you rationalize it yourself.

00:18:44.140 Like, I could just, you know, see myself out, so to speak.

00:18:46.620 Here's what I was doing.

00:18:47.760 I guess for some reason.

00:18:48.960 I love it, to be clear.

00:18:50.420 This is friendship.

00:18:50.860 This is life.

00:18:52.020 Thank God.

00:18:52.520 To be absolute.

00:18:53.800 Anyone doesn't get that.

00:18:55.260 Okay, great.

00:18:55.780 They don't have years.

00:18:56.680 You know what I mean?

00:18:57.040 I felt like, A, proud because there was a step that I didn't consult anyone else.

00:19:02.320 I just made the decision.

00:19:03.300 And not to bring up OCD, but booking flights is a huge trigger for me.

00:19:08.240 I'll spend so long.

00:19:09.340 Making choices?

00:19:10.140 Yeah, yeah.

00:19:10.660 Like really minor things.

00:19:11.820 Go hours.

00:19:12.000 Okay, this one's at 4.30 p.m., but this one's at 6.

00:19:14.780 It's five minutes, shorter flight.

00:19:16.780 And then just those micro decisions totally paralyzed me.

00:19:21.260 So I was like, book the flight without consulting anyone else.

00:19:24.660 And then I, of course, had the moment where I was like, well, this is so crazy.

00:19:27.040 because I just booked two flights, but, and I had to like, I almost needed to reassurance,

00:19:30.840 like, but one of them is fully refunded, you know, like, like, by the way, not only was

00:19:35.040 a 24 hour cancellation, cancellation fee, I also did fully refundable.

00:19:38.620 Wait, which one did you cancel? JetBlue or Delta?

00:19:40.720 Delta. Delta was more expensive.

00:19:41.920 Well, Delta, but you paid for the cancellation fee because I'm sorry to like, like.

00:19:46.780 No, I didn't pay for cancellation. It was 24 hour risk, 24 hour risk free. And it was

00:19:50.480 a refundable ticket.

00:19:51.460 No, the refundable ticket is the part. Okay. You fly a lot. Okay. So I basically, I think

00:19:56.880 whatever like i don't know my golden dahlia status now okay i worked my fucking ass off for it 1.00

00:20:01.280 i'm platinum not to be a bitch yeah fucking bitch how i'm trying to get to diamond back and forth 0.99

00:20:07.780 back and forth isn't it shocking like i don't know wait hold on a second i just want to find 0.99

00:20:13.760 your flight thing um just seeing like you just like having sent me like a louise hay affirmation

00:20:18.960 about like i feel safe in the flow of life which i've sent you before like literally nine years ago

00:20:23.100 Say it again.

00:20:23.480 I'm like, I think these are your issues.

00:20:24.280 Say it again for the listeners.

00:20:25.640 No, I lost it.

00:20:26.300 Wait, hold on.

00:20:26.640 I'll get to it.

00:20:27.220 I see a picture of you though.

00:20:28.360 I'm finding everything.

00:20:29.820 Coffee in the morning.

00:20:30.780 See you at the Ludlow.

00:20:31.680 My best friend is here.

00:20:35.260 Okay.

00:20:38.300 Use screenshotting a binaural beats app.

00:20:42.500 Me going, me going.

00:20:44.000 I first researched them in 2002.

00:20:47.300 So funny.

00:20:47.960 Yeah.

00:20:48.700 Instagram really targets me.

00:20:50.660 They were like, binaural beats. 0.73

00:20:53.020 And I was like, absolutely.

00:20:54.280 And then I clicked through, you know, these apps that they get you and you click and you

00:20:57.360 know, they're going to say, they're like, take our quiz.

00:21:00.180 And you know, it's like not real.

00:21:01.680 And you know that at the end, they're going to go now for $50 a year, you can sign up.

00:21:05.220 Even though I know that's coming.

00:21:06.780 And get your results.

00:21:07.760 Exactly.

00:21:08.040 Get your alleged results.

00:21:09.820 What compels me to keep clicking through?

00:21:11.820 I know, A, that I'm not going to sign up.

00:21:13.560 I know, B, that this is not a real quiz.

00:21:16.200 And yet I'm still tapping through these arbitrary quizzes.

00:21:20.360 Okay, here was the affirmation I sent you.

00:21:21.960 I feel safe

00:21:23.080 in the rhythm

00:21:23.520 and flow

00:21:24.040 of ever-changing life

00:21:25.360 which I think

00:21:26.300 I sent you back

00:21:26.960 in the day

00:21:27.340 about

00:21:27.820 I'm sure

00:21:28.820 urinary things

00:21:29.760 or maybe

00:21:30.400 oh

00:21:31.060 okay I just searched

00:21:32.320 I'm like

00:21:32.580 let me find the text

00:21:33.560 from Kate

00:21:34.000 I just see

00:21:34.880 I just searched

00:21:35.540 Delta

00:21:36.020 okay

00:21:36.720 I was like

00:21:37.200 there's no way

00:21:38.740 she didn't say Delta

00:21:39.480 you know what I mean

00:21:40.040 and all I see first

00:21:41.440 before I see anything

00:21:42.280 is just

00:21:42.600 better than

00:21:43.060 coach 600

00:21:43.700 from Delta

00:21:44.300 exclamation point

00:21:45.360 like you tapping

00:21:46.220 you tapping

00:21:47.340 an exclamation point

00:21:48.360 is like

00:21:49.320 comical to me

00:21:50.620 you know what I mean

00:21:51.860 What does the text say? 0.99

00:21:53.420 The searching is really fucked up. 0.97

00:21:55.240 When was that is what I need to know. 0.99

00:21:57.620 I don't know.

00:21:58.400 I'm seeing all these omelets you're sending me.

00:22:00.620 Oh, you sent me the frother not working.

00:22:02.620 I mean, I asked for that video.

00:22:03.740 I won't lie.

00:22:04.420 Okay.

00:22:05.080 So I want to say that this omelet.

00:22:07.420 So I've been doing omelets.

00:22:11.380 Okay.

00:22:11.680 Oh my God.

00:22:12.780 I'm seeing it.

00:22:13.640 I just realized because there's been a lot going on the last days.

00:22:16.460 There's like nine omelet pictures, not from the same day.

00:22:19.440 Like each one has been witnessed.

00:22:21.860 i want to share my omelet with you today i did parmesan parmesan black pepper fabulous beautiful

00:22:28.980 yeah i told you i brought momofuku seasoning in a tiny container so i meant to say when you sent

00:22:34.360 me that i didn't understand what was going on i thought that like the hotel had provided that i

00:22:37.780 didn't understand that you had decanted your own so i is one of the most sort of intense packing

00:22:44.160 things right because there's these categories so there's just living there's like okay am i trying

00:22:49.140 to maintain any health.

00:22:50.060 I'm like bringing athletic greens.

00:22:51.260 I'm bringing my new Mito Pure, right?

00:22:52.680 I want to hear about your blend jet.

00:22:53.840 The blend jet.

00:22:54.500 And people want to hear about it.

00:22:55.840 Because you sent me,

00:22:56.500 Jacqueline sent me a photograph,

00:22:57.680 a video of this.

00:22:58.860 This is, picture a thermos,

00:23:01.340 but it has a little blender inside.

00:23:02.900 So you can blend.

00:23:04.700 Except-

00:23:05.180 How powerful is the blade?

00:23:06.880 Let's be honest.

00:23:07.440 Okay, so I-

00:23:08.600 Powders and liquids only, correct?

00:23:10.480 Let's be honest.

00:23:10.840 No, it shredded lettuce for me.

00:23:12.960 Did it pulverize the cellular structure

00:23:15.460 of the lettuce?

00:23:17.460 You know what I'm saying?

00:23:18.480 Right.

00:23:18.740 maybe not like there were some chewing still happening but would it pulverize frozen blueberries

00:23:24.720 I don't know I I didn't have all my ingredients so like I haven't really I can't quite tell I'm

00:23:30.300 trying to think what did I oh I did throw like I didn't throw a full lemon in there but I threw

00:23:35.040 like you know I was trying to like lemon drink and um it didn't I wouldn't expect it to pulverize

00:23:41.640 but I mean that's tough I mean I know but I just was dreaming like I mean the other thing is I do

00:23:46.340 not require a smoothie like what am i but this fantasy of lemon drink in the room so like no i'm

00:23:51.520 now traveling with weights literally so i can do my tracy okay two five pound leg weights and two

00:23:57.020 three or 1.5 whatever okay so those are dragging along my suitcase they're so dense i got these

00:24:01.900 special ones okay they're so dense that i got stopped in security for them because you can't

00:24:06.480 see through them cool they were like what are those i took it out i was like my weights so

00:24:11.420 It'll be checked from now on.

00:24:12.820 I'm literally traveling with a canopy.

00:24:15.420 Humidifier.

00:24:15.900 Yep.

00:24:16.200 Yep.

00:24:16.400 Yep. 0.99

00:24:16.820 You're not fucking around. 0.99

00:24:18.020 The voice must be protected. 1.00

00:24:19.200 I have this canopy right next to my bed.

00:24:20.520 So dry.

00:24:20.940 Can't have nosebleeds on stage.

00:24:22.800 So there's all like the personal sort of like health stuff I'm attempting to have this be like healthy, whatever.

00:24:27.860 Then there's like all the me hauling my own merch.

00:24:30.860 Okay.

00:24:31.420 Me hauling my own merch.

00:24:33.660 50 books.

00:24:35.320 Okay.

00:24:36.080 In a suitcase.

00:24:36.560 Yeah, that's a lot.

00:24:37.160 I don't even have a dead body in here.

00:24:38.260 No, books.

00:24:39.040 And it's like embarrassing.

00:24:39.880 That I wrote.

00:24:40.400 Yeah.

00:24:40.660 Yeah.

00:24:40.820 I'm just like books 0.99

00:24:41.780 and then the show shit 0.99

00:24:44.860 whatever it's so many different layers the skin must be 1.00

00:24:46.940 cared for right all this fucking skin care 0.99

00:24:49.040 the whole thing 0.99

00:24:50.080 I want to pause on skin care because

00:24:52.560 yes this is it has been destroying

00:24:55.040 my mental state it is better

00:24:57.060 today and that's

00:24:59.040 all we can hope for I did blast it

00:25:01.260 oh the text

00:25:03.020 just found it finally

00:25:03.940 just all of a sudden

00:25:06.000 well first of all I see when I get back to LA I'm going to do the

00:25:08.820 Marie V retinol

00:25:10.440 Yeah, I'm really, so Marie Veronique sent us.

00:25:12.800 Was it because you saw that I brought the whole thing?

00:25:14.320 I saw that, but I also saw it being featured, this retinol.

00:25:17.760 And Marie Veronique sent us beautiful packages filled with the product.

00:25:22.040 It was so generous and gorgeous.

00:25:23.220 It overwhelmed me.

00:25:24.120 And I just like, was like, this is so beautiful.

00:25:26.060 Like, I can't open it yet because I'm not going to commit to the full regime now.

00:25:30.180 When I go back, I think it's time.

00:25:31.660 I think it's time to commit to the regime and I want to check it out.

00:25:35.320 And I'm hearing great things.

00:25:36.280 It came with a full, like, typed out, like, regimen, recommendation.

00:25:40.120 Oh, honey, I saw.

00:25:41.080 It was so beautiful.

00:25:41.580 It was really, really lovingly packed. 0.99

00:25:43.480 So I just found, I just found, this is like, this to me is like the real shit. 0.99

00:25:48.960 Like, this is like, something just about this. 0.98

00:25:51.120 Like, so, book my one-way trip back to LA on JetBlue.

00:25:55.320 Okay.

00:25:55.760 And I'll pause between each line break, aka text, because I'm a line breaker too, on text.

00:26:01.440 Okay, keep going.

00:26:02.600 So it's just like, book my one-way trip back to LA on JetBlue.

00:26:06.280 Even more space, comma, coach, $450.

00:26:11.640 Better than the coach 600 from Delta.

00:26:14.460 Excavation point.

00:26:16.440 Book refundable.

00:26:19.280 Because you never know.

00:26:23.280 And by the way, it was just, it was BC, but I didn't want to confuse it.

00:26:26.720 It was BC, you never know.

00:26:29.140 That's friendship.

00:26:30.100 That's you, okay?

00:26:31.400 And I just wrote, haha, legitimizing choice with me.

00:26:33.600 You wrote, haha.

00:26:34.120 And then I go, you can usually do same day change for free.

00:26:36.820 Okay.

00:26:37.060 Which is true on Delta.

00:26:38.960 And you were like, no, I'm bragging.

00:26:40.480 Like I'm smart.

00:26:42.540 Okay.

00:26:44.320 You know, and then like, this is because I may want to stay longer.

00:26:46.960 Who knows?

00:26:47.360 But doubt it.

00:26:50.480 Unbelievable.

00:26:51.260 And that is friendship and that is love.

00:26:53.200 And yeah, I just can't wait for our summit.

00:26:56.740 You were blown away to see me without or rather wearing gold hoops.

00:26:59.940 Remember?

00:27:00.380 You'd never seen it before?

00:27:01.080 Yeah, I saw you working on gold hoops in a beanie.

00:27:02.720 I couldn't believe it.

00:27:03.340 I was like, who's that?

00:27:04.120 It was unbelievable.

00:27:05.640 I was just sending you

00:27:06.900 a workout book.

00:27:07.980 Your bod is out of control.

00:27:09.920 I hadn't seen you physically

00:27:11.200 in a while.

00:27:11.820 Well, the strength.

00:27:12.420 You and your one-piece leotard.

00:27:15.020 My free people haul.

00:27:16.320 Unbelievable.

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00:31:34.040 Can I just say that I went into Tracy for three days in a row?

00:31:36.780 I think that's a big deal.

00:31:37.480 I've never been in studio.

00:31:38.580 That's huge.

00:31:39.160 She went in studio.

00:31:39.580 It was a whole scene in there.

00:31:41.620 I mean, it wasn't.

00:31:42.440 It was totally normal.

00:31:43.580 But I was very nervous because I was going to be live in class with the trainers that I've only streamed classes with in the past.

00:31:50.700 were you starstruck oh yeah and like did you talk to them after were you like hi i'm from la

00:31:55.280 well yeah and i had this moment where i was like oh god like because it was like i just can't get

00:32:00.120 it right with these people like you know what i mean like like i'm a fan like i just like you 0.85

00:32:04.200 know what i mean like i don't know it's like never quite working and um cracking fucking jokes and 0.51

00:32:08.720 then like trying to back out of that i missed that i go in humidity in the room okay so they 0.90

00:32:16.140 crank up the heat and they crank the humidity it's like hot yoga whoa i didn't know they did 0.80

00:32:19.740 hot in there yeah it's not as hot as hot yield but it's hot okay yeah yeah damn i had no idea

00:32:25.780 there was a heat element are you ready super g floors which are like i don't know like i think

00:32:30.780 they're like a tracy like product but they're like bouncy yeah not as bouncy as like not like

00:32:35.980 ridiculous you only notice once you're like jumping yeah okay so it's like cool and like

00:32:42.480 the floor's got like a little bounce under it and we're doing the whole thing and i'm looking 0.85

00:32:45.040 at the mirror i'm the trainer and i'm like gone gone whatever it was like and they like there was

00:32:48.540 this moment anyone new to class like i like my hand like shot up because like oh never lie i

00:32:53.580 would never lie and it was like new to tracy or like or whose first time or you know i mean yeah

00:32:57.640 i was like no i've been streaming for like they're like how long you know it's like a year and a half

00:33:01.660 which was like i think it's like two two and a half years yeah but i panicked and didn't want

00:33:05.840 to like oversell it they were like oh then you'll be fine like usually you know the language like

00:33:09.840 you know the language of the tracy movement like but you just haven't done it in the studio and i

00:33:13.480 was like yeah and uh but it was like that thing where then now i'd have been identified as like

00:33:17.960 the new person in class yeah kind of and um you know it's like there's this awareness yeah they're

00:33:23.800 like where are you from LA you know it's just like oh my god so now like let's just say all

00:33:28.120 eyes are on me yeah yeah and the pace was like upped and there was a feeling of like I could

00:33:35.420 not first of all like I did not want to slow down like you want to be in rhythm with the teacher and

00:33:41.600 the class like so there is an added social pressure like at home I could maybe go okay

00:33:46.860 I'm going to

00:33:47.400 my form

00:33:48.000 I think I'm going to

00:33:48.640 slow this down slightly

00:33:49.480 I'm not going to

00:33:50.020 quite keep the pace

00:33:50.880 in class it's like

00:33:52.200 you've got to join

00:33:53.240 so it was

00:33:54.660 I mean obviously

00:33:55.740 I was sweating

00:33:56.260 I was

00:33:56.920 it was like ecstatic though

00:33:58.960 I want to go with you

00:33:59.800 in LA in person

00:34:00.260 we will go

00:34:00.820 there's a place

00:34:02.180 in Studio City

00:34:02.960 by the way

00:34:03.320 I've driven by it

00:34:04.020 drive through the hills

00:34:04.860 you'll drive us

00:34:05.680 I'll drive us

00:34:06.460 really

00:34:06.800 you'll pick me up

00:34:09.200 look in my eyes

00:34:10.340 and drive through the mountains

00:34:11.560 promise

00:34:12.180 because

00:34:12.560 I don't care if it takes

00:34:13.960 an hour to get there

00:34:14.720 every day

00:34:15.180 okay

00:34:15.960 and then

00:34:16.880 so I go the first day

00:34:18.540 and it's like

00:34:19.040 I'm like nervous

00:34:20.320 like

00:34:20.620 but when I can go in

00:34:21.560 I'm like

00:34:21.820 can I go in yet

00:34:22.460 like I'm like

00:34:22.960 there's like this line

00:34:24.280 and whatever

00:34:25.020 and like getting this spot

00:34:25.960 on the mat

00:34:26.360 and then you go

00:34:26.840 and you get your towels

00:34:27.600 I was terrified

00:34:28.800 because at the end

00:34:29.280 they're like

00:34:29.560 you know

00:34:29.940 wipe off your thing

00:34:30.560 with the mat 0.99

00:34:31.000 I was scared

00:34:31.760 that the people would think

00:34:32.840 as I was walking

00:34:33.820 to go get the wipe

00:34:34.700 for the mat

00:34:35.100 that I was just like 0.99

00:34:35.800 leaving my shit 0.99

00:34:36.520 like 1.00

00:34:36.820 oh my god

00:34:37.400 yeah

00:34:37.620 like the performance

00:34:38.820 of like moving

00:34:39.780 towards the wipe

00:34:41.120 like that they think 1.00

00:34:42.020 the new bitch 1.00

00:34:42.540 wasn't gonna clean her shit 1.00

00:34:43.480 you know what I mean 0.99

00:34:43.960 I really wanna

00:34:44.640 i want to do that march is huge march is going to be huge that's all i can say well no no you won't

00:34:50.940 be there in march yeah yeah i was about to do like get into calendar with you but we can't go there

00:34:55.000 just you know what i mean no but and so i i went one day i was soaring you know then i came out

00:35:01.120 next day i went again soaring again oh but talk about like the like you know you at the coffee 0.67

00:35:06.900 shop like in the morning and there i'm like couldn't fucking resist like meeting the eyes 0.62

00:35:11.920 of other girls in class. 0.89

00:35:13.100 I mean, not during class,

00:35:13.980 but like in the locker room

00:35:14.820 and being like, wow.

00:35:15.420 You're resisting it?

00:35:16.680 No.

00:35:17.380 I was like begging for it.

00:35:19.040 Okay.

00:35:19.300 I was like, wow.

00:35:20.320 What a class.

00:35:20.880 This is my first time.

00:35:22.240 I mean, I was a streamer.

00:35:23.020 Were they giving it to you?

00:35:24.100 Totally.

00:35:24.700 Okay.

00:35:25.280 Oh, fun.

00:35:26.140 Cute. 1.00

00:35:26.200 And this woman was like,

00:35:27.120 you know, you did great for your first time.

00:35:28.680 She was clearly like pro.

00:35:29.880 Like I could see like

00:35:30.780 she just knew what she was doing.

00:35:32.060 Like there were things,

00:35:32.740 there were nuances she was not missing.

00:35:34.120 Okay.

00:35:34.340 Yeah.

00:35:34.960 I didn't have time to watch the breakdown,

00:35:37.140 which is a thing.

00:35:38.020 Like, I mean, I don't want to say

00:35:39.160 I didn't have time, like take responsibility for myself, but there's a breakdown that you watch

00:35:42.700 after you've done the workout blind once. Cause first you have this sort of

00:35:46.020 psychokinetic experience. Okay. And I hadn't, so there was nuances that I had to go in front of

00:35:51.460 like this trainer, Courtney, that, you know, I worship and know that I was probably missing

00:35:56.860 nuances in the moves that she had explained in the breakdown and her seeing me. And it was,

00:36:00.620 I just, I had to say, I had to not worry about it, but.

00:36:05.620 Perfect is the enemy of good.

00:36:06.940 yes and okay and i was like so excited came back the second day and then the third day did this

00:36:12.840 thing called multitask where it's half cardio okay and i was like whoa my god i haven't been

00:36:16.980 in like a cardio class dancing around that sounds fun and on those super g floors bouncing i need

00:36:23.440 to bounce bouncing okay and these moves that are like these little mini sort of dances that you're

00:36:28.520 learning on the way like i like oh yeah i kind of couldn't keep up with choreography but then

00:36:31.940 they're they're standardized like some of them where you like learn them the next time you know

00:36:35.620 them like so it's like these little phrases of movement it's like dancing forward dancing

00:36:41.020 forward and then like jogging back like jogging back like around like like a full body like turn

00:36:45.920 turn leap leap like chorus line a little bit sweating i need that like i need to i need to

00:36:52.240 sweat the loon of the century the skincare in the lobby really was unreal the unitards in the lobby

00:36:59.680 wow unreal okay anyway it's a huge i'll post pictures it was just one of the biggest days

00:37:04.380 in my life. Talking about, I want to pivot to skincare because I watched Melanie Simon,

00:37:09.820 who's the zip creator. I watched her like a 17 minute video of her washing her face, which 1.00

00:37:14.920 really affected me. And it's done. I need to see it. Yeah. Is it on Instagram?

00:37:19.800 It's a reel of hers. And I just want to say she said something, which now it's going to change

00:37:25.040 the rest of my life. And what she said, and I've heard this before, but everyone, I think this is

00:37:29.000 real. We cannot be using, I'm going to say this really slowly. We cannot be using hot water on

00:37:34.960 our face. I'm so sorry. I know it feels good. The warmest the water should ever be that touches

00:37:40.140 your face is lukewarm. Oh. Okay. So, and I knew that the Biologique Recherche people say,

00:37:45.180 wash your face with cold water. I really knew that. And even joked with my old facialist,

00:37:48.980 ha ha ha. But come on, at the end of the day, what are you going to, yeah. Nope. And you know,

00:37:52.840 Melanie also goes, don't steam. She's like, steam is aggravating to the skin, 1.00

00:37:57.320 which does make sense and i brought this up to my facialist and she said nope that does that 0.98

00:38:01.600 does ring true like you don't she's like unless you have like calcified crazy seabomb seabomb

00:38:08.000 seabomb what's seabomb okay yeah seabomb in your pores like she's like which people like you kind

00:38:13.360 of don't have that ever most people like she basically like you kind of like don't need to

00:38:17.820 steam ever and i was like and then so and then she said and then she said because melanie's like

00:38:22.640 i'm really into taking baths but she's yeah i am too as we all know i am as well she's like

00:38:27.300 Like when you get in the bath, take a cold washcloth in with you and put that on your 1.00

00:38:31.200 face to minimize the hot water getting on the face.

00:38:34.420 And then last night I had the realization because I was doing a sheet mask, which I

00:38:38.280 treated myself to some sheet masks lately.

00:38:39.900 And I was like, God, these are fun.

00:38:41.940 And I know that that's like an obvious like level one thing, but I just haven't, I just

00:38:45.960 always forget.

00:38:46.640 I never do them.

00:38:47.940 And I was like, oh, here's what you do.

00:38:52.040 Because I put my sheet masks in the fridge.

00:38:54.100 There it is.

00:38:54.660 You take one out of the fridge.

00:38:56.040 You get in the bath with the cold sheet mask and you're soaking in the warm water with the

00:39:00.160 cold sheet mask. And then I tried to quickly do math. I was like, okay, let's just say I take

00:39:04.420 25 baths a month. A sheet mask is what? $2? $3? Some are $20. Okay. No, I know. Not the ones I'm

00:39:13.760 using. I used one though the other day. I did like a $6 sheet mask and I was like, Jesus,

00:39:17.840 it's a lot. $6, that's too much. I want free masks. It's that question. Well, you know,

00:39:22.620 it's also interesting

00:39:23.520 this is next level

00:39:24.700 I think they sell these

00:39:25.540 at Muji

00:39:25.940 or like

00:39:27.200 you know

00:39:28.020 online anywhere

00:39:28.760 but

00:39:29.020 it's like a paper

00:39:30.580 sheet mask

00:39:31.540 reusable

00:39:32.140 okay

00:39:32.520 no these are like

00:39:33.920 these are disposable

00:39:35.100 right like a paper sheet mask

00:39:36.440 and like

00:39:37.320 you soak it 1.00

00:39:38.460 in your shit 1.00

00:39:39.100 with the fucking product 1.00

00:39:40.780 okay 0.99

00:39:42.240 that you wanna

00:39:43.460 have sit on your face

00:39:45.300 versus evaporate

00:39:46.660 that would be fun

00:39:47.280 with like the snail bee

00:39:48.720 stuff

00:39:49.560 like the serum

00:39:50.620 yes

00:39:51.440 so let's say you like

00:39:52.460 load it up with your particular like that like okay it's kind of interesting to go 0.96

00:39:56.920 okay here's the question of the fucking day okay how much of a given serum is evaporating 0.80

00:40:05.120 off your face and you pat it into your skin how much is like just kind of evaporating and how 0.98

00:40:09.620 much is actually truly soaking in right yeah so because you would think if you soaked a sheet

00:40:14.160 mask in your finest serum and then you laid down and you put that on you're like well the sheet

00:40:19.180 mask isn't going to like completely dry or do you see what i'm saying but this is what i think the

00:40:24.360 answer is put your serums on then immediately put on one of those um hydrogel as masks even if it

00:40:31.580 had nothing on it okay yeah that are kind of you know the hydrogel ones yeah they kind of feel like

00:40:36.540 um wet like rice paper i think they're called hydrogel whatever put that on over like almost

00:40:42.580 like a plasticky sheet mask something that doesn't allow for the evaporation of the product there it

00:40:46.300 I guess I never worry about evaporation

00:40:48.720 this is a big deal

00:40:50.640 slugging you know like all that stuff

00:40:52.920 anything where you add the cream like you put your serums

00:40:55.180 on and then you add the cream on top

00:40:56.740 seal it in

00:40:57.760 my friend Deirdre sent me a text like

00:41:00.480 my husband like she's like

00:41:02.180 he said my skin's been looking youngish

00:41:04.700 she's like so thank you

00:41:06.260 she's like all I do she's like I really want to

00:41:08.820 step it up she's like but all I've done is add 1.00

00:41:10.820 frownies you know 0.66

00:41:12.000 those pieces of paper to stop the 11

00:41:14.540 than using COSRX, 0.99

00:41:17.900 fucking snail mucin, 0.99

00:41:19.000 a classic, 1.00

00:41:19.860 a fucking classic. 1.00

00:41:21.120 Yeah. 1.00

00:41:21.520 Run to SoCo Glam.

00:41:22.420 I think there's some sales going on right now.

00:41:23.720 It's like $11.

00:41:24.640 It's like under $20.

00:41:25.860 I use it-

00:41:26.620 In the pump.

00:41:27.160 All the time.

00:41:28.180 Pump, pump, pump.

00:41:29.060 Okay?

00:41:29.460 I run through those. 1.00

00:41:30.460 That shit is real. 1.00

00:41:31.320 Fuck. 1.00

00:41:32.240 And she's like, 1.00

00:41:33.000 and it's a variety of spritzes.

00:41:34.780 She's like a variety.

00:41:36.060 Okay?

00:41:36.520 I love.

00:41:37.000 The spritzes are just,

00:41:37.860 she's like,

00:41:38.120 that's all I can manage.

00:41:38.800 Like,

00:41:39.020 I'm not layering on products at night.

00:41:41.440 Like-

00:41:41.520 I'm gonna cry.

00:41:42.020 Anything.

00:41:42.840 Yeah,

00:41:43.000 it's changing a lot.

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00:46:01.180 Talk to me right now about the snail mucin because I have to say that's something that I haven't given enough attention to.

00:46:06.860 When are you integrating that into the regime?

00:46:09.660 Well, because of its texture, okay?

00:46:12.240 It's kind of slimy and yeah.

00:46:13.820 Yeah, it's kind of slimy, like kind of nice.

00:46:16.540 By the way, you could gouache out with that. 0.99

00:46:17.980 That's for fucking sure. 0.99

00:46:18.940 Well, you know what else I do with that? 0.99

00:46:20.460 Okay.

00:46:20.740 What?

00:46:21.320 So with any of the things that conduct electricity,

00:46:24.400 like the Zip or the Pure Lift, right?

00:46:27.400 You know, there's these conductive gels

00:46:28.780 and they sell the conductor gels

00:46:30.220 like that are really expensive with them, right?

00:46:32.320 Like the golden gel and whatever.

00:46:33.460 And they have other ingredients, blah, blah, blah.

00:46:35.140 But sometimes like you need to reapply 0.99

00:46:37.100 or you really want to load that shit up. 0.93

00:46:39.120 so I will use like another product and yes of course they like say like don't do it because 0.98

00:46:44.200 I don't want you to buy theirs okay but like yeah yeah it's conductive it's like water-based

00:46:48.360 whatever so I use the snail mucin to kind of like boost boost as I go to have like more

00:46:54.000 liquid to keep it um got it you know and it sometimes in a pinch where like I can't reach

00:46:59.720 for the other one I just throw some snail mucin on the face because it's cheaper it's conductive

00:47:03.980 zoom zoom zoom and i have to seriously though like i have to revisit relaxing that i am furrowing up

00:47:13.720 a storm and i really want to want to relax you looked 14 i saw you yesterday yeah i also when

00:47:20.460 i go back to la it's gonna be moisturizing everything's gonna i mean i just got my peel

00:47:26.100 pads my dentist gross with me like i travel with like the equivalent of like one a day basically

00:47:31.300 And I'm like, but you know what?

00:47:32.980 I've been really bad about like getting all the mascara off.

00:47:37.940 Never going to happen. 0.99

00:47:38.920 Never going to fucking happen. 0.97

00:47:40.480 I mean, it would take, I don't know. 0.99

00:47:42.620 Like, and then the mascara, when I'm even using a good cleanser, like a balm cleanser

00:47:46.620 that melts it, whatever, you know, the first kind of thing.

00:47:49.740 It's like-

00:47:50.380 It's never coming off.

00:47:50.940 Or make a remover.

00:47:51.720 It's like, it's all landing on the under eye area.

00:47:54.440 Yeah.

00:47:54.960 And I'm sort of wiping it away from there.

00:47:56.280 And I'm like, am I sort of just like depositing mascara into the under eye area?

00:48:01.520 Oh, I know.

00:48:02.100 I know.

00:48:02.400 I think about that all the time.

00:48:03.440 The darkness that will never leave.

00:48:04.960 Yeah.

00:48:05.260 And then, and just what's it doing?

00:48:06.780 Like, you know what I mean?

00:48:07.780 Like in the morning, like, let's say I wash my face and it's like, oh, more mascara.

00:48:13.320 Yep.

00:48:13.760 From last night.

00:48:14.840 Well, I want to say that Melanie Simon talks about gauze and she uses, and I'm so excited

00:48:20.120 by it, Bioderma.

00:48:21.800 You know, there's the, I use Bioderma constantly.

00:48:24.160 There's the pink formula and there's the blue formula.

00:48:26.280 Of the micellar? 0.94

00:48:27.620 Yeah, she uses the blue formula.

00:48:30.180 And she's like, this is what you need to wash your face.

00:48:33.040 You know, and she was like-

00:48:34.100 Just micellar water. 0.93

00:48:35.160 Basically.

00:48:35.660 She's like, well, what she does is she makes her own,

00:48:37.900 she uses Lay You, the Biologique Recherche, 0.67

00:48:40.280 and then she drops in some of the Bioderma. 0.93

00:48:43.600 And then she massages that together really, really fast.

00:48:46.520 She's like, you have to emulsify. 0.97

00:48:47.720 You have to emulsify.

00:48:49.020 She's like, this is a whole new product now.

00:48:50.240 Okay, now what's the Biologique again?

00:48:53.600 it's called lay you l-a-i-t-u i've used it over the years there's a t in there one oh it's milk

00:49:00.200 sorry it's french right it's creamy yeah yeah it's a milky cleanser and so but with the gauze 1.00

00:49:06.780 she does this elaborate fucking shit with the gauze and massaging getting the bioderma to lift 0.96

00:49:13.540 up because i'm i'm watching her going i've never washed my face in my life and i'm doing two stuff 1.00

00:49:17.780 I'm doing oil cleanser followed by a cleanser.

00:49:20.540 Yeah.

00:49:21.060 And oh, I have, and here's the rain thing.

00:49:24.020 Guess who's been neglecting their neck?

00:49:26.160 This whole time?

00:49:26.780 Me.

00:49:27.360 In terms of wash?

00:49:28.180 I'll put cream in terms of cleansing.

00:49:30.640 Oh, yeah.

00:49:31.980 And that also boosts circulation. 0.98

00:49:33.660 She's all about lymphatics.

00:49:34.720 So she's like, you're taking the gauze with the bioderma

00:49:36.780 and you're cleansing, but you're also pushing fluid.

00:49:41.300 Okay.

00:49:41.680 You're pushing fluid. 1.00

00:49:42.560 And she goes, your face is so connected to your fucking neck. 1.00

00:49:46.840 you have to work your neck 1.00

00:49:48.420 if you want your face

00:49:49.440 to happen

00:49:50.300 right

00:49:50.500 if you want your

00:49:51.060 if you want your fingertip

00:49:52.200 to look good 0.98

00:49:52.700 and you're not fucking 0.99

00:49:53.340 working the hand 0.99

00:49:54.060 are you kidding 1.00

00:49:54.620 you're a fool 1.00

00:49:55.220 and it's like 1.00

00:49:55.700 it's the end of the line

00:49:56.440 my gua sha stuff

00:49:58.180 exactly

00:49:58.600 I've been watching people

00:49:59.660 the back of the neck

00:50:00.600 even if you don't

00:50:01.440 even you don't have to

00:50:02.220 use your gua sha tool

00:50:02.780 you can use your 1.00

00:50:03.280 fucking fingers 1.00

00:50:04.380 yeah 1.00

00:50:04.800 get in there

00:50:05.820 and you just break up

00:50:06.920 massage at all times

00:50:08.520 blood flow

00:50:09.120 blood flow

00:50:09.700 blood flow

00:50:10.260 circulation

00:50:10.720 this is all it is

00:50:11.840 I've been seeing a lot of

00:50:12.680 up and behind the ear

00:50:14.200 and down

00:50:15.020 for the

00:50:15.480 down the neck

00:50:16.100 is key

00:50:16.580 yeah well also because with the gosh you know the little the like the little hard crunchy things

00:50:20.400 along your jawline yes that's that's stagnant metabolic waste as they say is that really what

00:50:27.000 it is that's what they say i don't i hardly everyone's got a different claim of what the

00:50:30.600 crunchies i know i know i hardly buy it like there's just people being like so like with no

00:50:34.700 proof or like they're just like so um those crunchies like and you're not like what those

00:50:39.520 are are you know yeah there's kind of an interesting thing like instagram whatever like

00:50:43.680 like you don't have to like prove anything you know what I mean like like someone just sitting

00:50:49.920 there being like so the way the lymph system works and it's kind of like I mean that's I don't mind

00:50:55.020 it I'm always interested in the rumor interest in the rumor and yeah blood flow circulation

00:50:59.840 and and now I'm going to pivot radically and say two things which is that I'm really want to see 0.99

00:51:06.640 a functional doctor when I get back to I'm going to do the full marches my as I say full piss shit 0.97

00:51:11.480 blood i'm getting the full panel yeah and you know who i dm's the viome waiting at home i'm just 0.97

00:51:16.420 i know thank you but i um are you familiar with will cole no major like famous functional doctor

00:51:23.920 i boldly dm'd him he's really sweet he's responded to me guess what he listens to poog

00:51:32.520 and could be listening right now as of as we speak yeah well i was in a near heart attack 0.99

00:51:37.800 because where the fuck was I 0.95

00:51:38.840 ever heard of a group DM? 0.99

00:51:40.160 You're going to flip out.

00:51:41.000 Okay, okay, listen.

00:51:42.300 But also it's different

00:51:43.040 because I was in Pittsburgh.

00:51:44.320 Okay, whatever.

00:51:44.880 There's more there.

00:51:45.760 Don't feel excluded.

00:51:47.380 I will not be excluded.

00:51:49.780 Okay, you need to go to his page.

00:51:52.100 You've told me his name.

00:51:53.020 You'll recognize.

00:51:54.060 And listen.

00:51:54.560 You'll find him.

00:51:55.320 Listen, we're just not above this, okay?

00:51:57.340 He works with Gwyneth, okay?

00:51:59.020 Of course we're not above this.

00:52:00.360 Major celebs.

00:52:02.220 Anyway, but his website,

00:52:03.920 he offers telehealth. 1.00

00:52:05.240 He listens to fucking Poog? 1.00

00:52:06.880 Are you kidding? 1.00

00:52:07.800 believe this and so no wait top 50 in functional medicine yeah oh my god gut feelings holy fucking 0.96

00:52:17.200 shit no wait i'm gonna lose my mind you know what the subtitle of his book is what i'm sorry like 0.98

00:52:21.860 i'm i'm already i'm already crying healing the shame-fueled relationship between what you eat 0.99

00:52:27.320 and how you feel excuse me he's the real deal he is the real deal and i've been following him for

00:52:34.500 a while. And I really want to take it to the next level. And I really think that I want to

00:52:39.260 link up with one of his practitioners because yeah, telehealth. It's like, here I am in the

00:52:45.720 eighties thinking I have to be in person. But actually with this, it's the blood work. They

00:52:50.480 call on the panels. They look at the blood that I don't need to be in the room for them to see my

00:52:53.820 blood. So there it goes. No, that's for knee tapping. Yeah, exactly. They don't need to

00:52:59.760 That's for knee tapping and intuitives.

00:53:02.160 You need to be in your aura.

00:53:03.360 So congratulations to us.

00:53:05.460 Wait, I did actually do a thing.

00:53:07.040 Made a note called Discuss on Poog in my actual handwritten journal.

00:53:12.040 Yeah.

00:53:12.320 Let's see if there's anything interesting.

00:53:14.840 Also, I want to add some.

00:53:17.640 Go ahead.

00:53:18.380 Go ahead.

00:53:18.700 Oh, no.

00:53:19.100 Here's what I found.

00:53:19.880 I see in quotes because I wrote this on the airplane.

00:53:22.680 Just in quotes.

00:53:23.140 It says Kennedy.

00:53:23.820 Okay.

00:53:24.260 It's because it's so classic pilots.

00:53:27.920 We're like, we'll be landing at Kennedy.

00:53:29.760 and uh so it's so calling it not jfk but kennedy i love that or they go are you flying out of

00:53:35.140 kennedy oh my god that is hot yeah i know it literally is it actually makes me horny i can't

00:53:40.940 explain it yeah no that's why i wrote it down okay okay so this guy by the way next to me he

00:53:47.200 was like it's really wonderful to see a young person writing with a fountain pen where on the

00:53:52.200 plane yeah and he's like you know i used to he's like i gave it up maybe i'll maybe i'll get back

00:53:56.000 into it. It's like I tried to get my daughters into it. It didn't take. I can't believe you

00:54:00.080 didn't tell me this earlier. I was like, it takes when it takes. And you know what else he did that

00:54:05.400 I loved? He like was across the aisle and he didn't elbow me, but it was the equivalent of

00:54:11.820 elbowing me pointing out the window at the moon. No. Okay. Now I'm crying. And by the way, it was

00:54:17.740 that Leo moon because my friend the next morning was like, sent me to think, did you see the Leo

00:54:22.040 moon it woke me in the night yeah like in moonstruck okay cosmos moon it's all about

00:54:27.600 claiming the power and listen wait what no i didn't i was like i will tell this on pook i was

00:54:33.280 like i was like this is like so whatever something i did in class okay to get through like to be like

00:54:38.120 okay like oh god like we've done the sequence on the left side okay now i'm gonna do it on the

00:54:41.860 right side still have to do it on the other side that kind of feeling this idea where i was like

00:54:44.980 okay in workout like classes or videos or whatever this psychological game around still

00:54:51.480 got to do it on the other side yeah I had an idea during class which I was like okay I'm gonna think

00:54:57.660 of instead of like the side and the other side okay I'm gonna think of it as the sun side and

00:55:02.880 the moon side okay and I just had to go which one's first and so first instinct is like sun

00:55:09.040 right no no no no no no okay I go when I'm doing it on the first side I'm gonna it's gonna be moon

00:55:15.460 and it's gonna be receptive okay it's gonna be receptive I'm letting the movement in like pool

00:55:20.520 in me like the light you know it pools on the moon absorbing and then you're emitting okay the

00:55:24.640 yin whatever and then having absorbed it now when I move on to the second side now it's sun baby

00:55:30.340 now it's active okay and I was like this once again reveals I was like obviously this is huge

00:55:37.040 and I was like if I forget to think this it's like I realized these ways about thinking about

00:55:41.520 things that could change everything and then I sometimes forget and that's of course that's the

00:55:45.100 hell yeah I also wrote down when will I lose a pen because it's going to happen well I want to

00:55:51.080 say an amazing text I got from you yesterday which was you in the lobby I was going to come

00:55:55.240 meet you to have our little breakfast meeting and you were like left I don't want to find it

00:56:02.060 yeah it was almost me being like oh we're allowed to do this here what do you mean oh no here it is

00:56:06.100 you said yeah left my pen by the way look at this I said my zit is better today okay I'm coming

00:56:12.260 to my text to you.

00:56:13.820 And then you said,

00:56:14.800 left my pen upstairs.

00:56:16.580 Somber, but thankfully,

00:56:17.600 I have a second.

00:56:21.460 That is amazing.

00:56:22.900 It's true.

00:56:23.560 I did have a second fountain pen with me.

00:56:25.880 Okay, now I'm seeing functional medicine,

00:56:28.300 Will Cole on the horizon.

00:56:29.740 I'm doing major shadow work,

00:56:31.100 major inner child work.

00:56:33.440 And...

00:56:33.760 Oh, customer service is not dead.

00:56:36.400 Okay.

00:56:36.680 It's not.

00:56:37.460 Okay, I had an experience

00:56:38.500 in a restaurant in Chicago,

00:56:39.800 burger, steak kind of restaurant.

00:56:41.580 okay this restaurant group gibson's okay one night i go to the steak restaurant it's a dream

00:56:46.820 whatever the next night they're closed and you know i like something i come right back

00:56:50.600 because they're like three nights and i'm like i found my place yeah right by the viceroy which

00:56:55.700 i will say i loved telly wurstler uh design making it gorgeous whatever so go to the gibson's

00:57:03.280 they send me across the street to this place that i would not think would be good because

00:57:06.600 it looks like some cheeseball thing it's called lux bar i'm like there's no way something named

00:57:10.260 Lux Bar is good.

00:57:11.360 Do you know what I mean?

00:57:12.100 Yeah, of course.

00:57:13.420 But they're like, no, it's owned by us.

00:57:15.000 It's like you can get the same steak or whatever.

00:57:18.160 So I go in and it was just fantastic.

00:57:23.680 Okay. 1.00

00:57:23.940 And there was a fuck up and they handled it like fucking princes. 1.00

00:57:27.580 Okay. 1.00

00:57:28.320 And I actually took some video that maybe I'll share on the moment where I was screaming

00:57:32.420 about customer service not being dead.

00:57:35.780 So they bring me this cocktail.

00:57:37.400 I have a couple of sips of the cocktail.

00:57:38.680 and I have the slightest

00:57:39.860 sort of interior itch

00:57:40.900 in my ear

00:57:41.340 that is like

00:57:42.060 when there's been

00:57:43.060 slight cross-contamination

00:57:44.140 of something right

00:57:44.860 not enough that it's

00:57:46.060 crossing into

00:57:46.620 time to go like

00:57:47.460 use the Benadryl

00:57:48.580 but like something's up

00:57:49.440 so I go

00:57:50.200 hey like

00:57:51.080 it's not like a big deal

00:57:52.860 like I'm not having

00:57:53.540 like a full-blown thing

00:57:54.400 but I think there might be

00:57:55.140 a little cross-contamination

00:57:55.940 like with this glass

00:57:57.020 I was like

00:57:57.360 and I see the menu

00:57:59.140 of the cocktails

00:57:59.760 and we find walnut

00:58:01.340 or dial

00:58:01.980 or whatever okay

00:58:02.980 is like in other cocktails

00:58:04.540 so I'm like

00:58:05.400 you know like maybe

00:58:06.000 so they were like

00:58:07.140 we'll make you a new one

00:58:07.920 like I mean I asked

00:58:09.180 I still wanted the drink

00:58:10.100 like I'm like

00:58:10.580 can you just like

00:58:11.200 make me a new one

00:58:11.880 and just be very like

00:58:13.460 careful whatever

00:58:14.500 like absolutely

00:58:15.600 and then he's like

00:58:16.520 and I'm going to be

00:58:17.120 sending the manager over

00:58:18.100 I've noticed this

00:58:19.160 in a couple places

00:58:19.960 if anything

00:58:21.880 to do with an allergy

00:58:23.780 comes up

00:58:24.480 yeah

00:58:24.720 the manager 0.99

00:58:25.640 is brought the fuck in 0.99

00:58:27.400 yeah 1.00

00:58:28.200 no matter how like

00:58:29.400 excellent the waiter is

00:58:30.560 whatever

00:58:30.820 it is like

00:58:31.360 this goes straight to the top

00:58:32.700 okay manager comes over

00:58:34.160 the manager should administer

00:58:34.700 a full physical

00:58:35.460 yeah

00:58:36.100 Okay, the manager comes over

00:58:38.660 with stethoscope in hand, okay?

00:58:40.780 Exactly.

00:58:41.540 And just fully gets into it with me.

00:58:44.600 And then we talk about how some restaurants

00:58:46.880 really don't, you know what I mean?

00:58:48.460 And I do this whole, you know,

00:58:49.460 nice restaurant, okay, places you wouldn't believe.

00:58:52.060 Okay, and then he's like,

00:58:53.140 and I'm going to come back in a few minutes

00:58:54.900 to make sure you're feeling okay, whatever.

00:58:56.600 And that's...

00:58:57.320 Comes back a few minutes later,

00:58:58.920 provides his card.

00:59:00.560 The waiter provides his card as well

00:59:02.540 and says, if by some chance,

00:59:04.080 like or is like

00:59:05.320 and he put his personal

00:59:06.640 number on there.

00:59:07.720 Okay.

00:59:08.560 And he goes he's like

00:59:09.700 if you want to assume

00:59:10.700 tomorrow.

00:59:11.560 Yeah.

00:59:11.780 He's like if by some

00:59:12.600 chance tomorrow

00:59:13.540 you're not feeling great

00:59:15.180 like you reach out

00:59:15.980 to this restaurant.

00:59:16.920 Okay.

00:59:18.720 And whatever.

00:59:20.000 Okay.

00:59:20.280 And the guy was also

00:59:21.020 like the waiters like

00:59:21.640 you know dessert on me

00:59:23.220 like some something

00:59:24.220 like please like for

00:59:25.380 whatever happened 0.99

00:59:26.060 this goddamn sweetheart. 1.00

00:59:27.840 So sweet. 1.00

00:59:28.960 And then yeah

00:59:30.180 and he's like and the

00:59:30.820 drinks are on me.

00:59:31.780 Unbelievable.

00:59:32.660 And then there's a moment

00:59:33.280 where the check arrives

00:59:33.940 and I go,

00:59:34.320 they're doing some work on him.

00:59:35.420 Okay.

00:59:36.400 That's so funny.

00:59:37.820 But then I look and I go,

00:59:38.540 no, they're there.

00:59:39.280 And then there was a subtraction

00:59:40.260 at the bottom, whatever.

00:59:41.480 I was just screaming

00:59:42.280 about how customer service,

00:59:43.540 like it's one of the finest arts

00:59:46.200 that no one can take away

00:59:48.040 if you choose.

00:59:49.120 It's a choice.

00:59:50.900 Okay.

00:59:51.240 Can I tell you something?

00:59:52.140 Yeah.

00:59:52.840 Tell me if this is,

00:59:54.560 I had a weird moment

00:59:55.560 at the grocery store this morning

00:59:57.060 where I was getting things.

00:59:58.560 And by the way,

00:59:58.820 I just want to say

00:59:59.440 I intentionally just now said

01:00:00.700 grocery store instead of market

01:00:01.940 because I typically say market.

01:00:03.120 but I've been mocked for calling it market

01:00:05.600 that I'm going back.

01:00:06.620 Okay, I went to the market.

01:00:07.480 Because they're like,

01:00:08.140 that it's like very bourgeois

01:00:09.220 and like,

01:00:10.040 it's like I just like-

01:00:11.140 But the supermarket's not bourgeois.

01:00:13.080 I call everything the market.

01:00:14.500 If there's groceries there,

01:00:15.780 it's the market to me.

01:00:16.900 Because it's like my mother says market.

01:00:18.260 I grew up saying market.

01:00:19.020 Yeah.

01:00:19.580 I get my pasture raised eggs, of course,

01:00:21.280 the only eggs that are appropriate.

01:00:22.340 And I have to say,

01:00:22.860 when I go like,

01:00:23.980 whatever,

01:00:25.200 I just,

01:00:25.560 it really is shocking

01:00:26.380 when you get a breakfast

01:00:27.560 at a restaurant that's expensive

01:00:28.580 and you open your egg

01:00:30.180 and it is halogen yellow, 0.86

01:00:32.360 nightmare like 1.00

01:00:34.480 you know what I mean

01:00:36.080 you mean it's a bad egg it's not a pasture

01:00:38.140 no it's not a pasture raised egg but here's the thing

01:00:40.380 neon yellow egg that probably 0.99

01:00:42.380 has right the chemical contents

01:00:44.500 of the chemical that creates neon

01:00:46.380 neon signs yeah yeah like it's

01:00:48.520 like I'm eating it give me a deep orange

01:00:50.460 egg okay good because the ones

01:00:52.440 in like London okay

01:00:54.000 oh yeah they're deep orange

01:00:56.200 because they have a different system going on

01:00:58.580 yeah because they're not like pumped with 0.99

01:01:00.660 fucking Tylenol PM. 0.99

01:01:09.760 Served up with a melted plastic spoon. 1.00

01:01:15.300 Oh my God, do you remind me?

01:01:16.740 I had a moment with my mother

01:01:17.800 that really terrified me a few months ago 0.98

01:01:19.560 where we were getting Cuban food

01:01:20.760 from Versailles,

01:01:21.940 wonderful, iconic LA restaurant.

01:01:23.760 And it came in these plastic containers.

01:01:27.320 And I leave the room, I come back.

01:01:28.760 yeah this actually I was like mom she was heating up in the oven the food she put the plastic in

01:01:37.480 the oven it came out it was I was like I'm not eating that formed was it deformed well it was

01:01:42.420 like partially melted she was like oh my god she's like I think she thought she was gonna put in there

01:01:46.160 for like two minutes or something but then it was like four like something but it melted onto the

01:01:50.920 food it was still hard needless to say I ate it regardless and listen I actually really have to

01:01:55.560 leave okay fine which is i could talk to you for 16 hours i know there's more to do all right we'll

01:02:00.160 talk soon i have tons there's so much more but guess what luckily it's not the final poog okay

01:02:05.400 thank god it's not the final kind of feels like jinxing like okay whatever it's fine yeah but

01:02:09.960 you mean you're gonna crash now yeah something like that immediate fear comes in okay love you

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