Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - Alienated Majesty

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00:02:39.400 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:40.880 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:02:41.940 And this is Poog, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

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00:02:53.900 Today's topic, loosely speaking, the usual.

00:02:56.920 Huffed to the moon.

00:02:58.420 Remain curious.

00:03:03.660 Greetings, greetings.

00:03:05.220 Good afternoon.

00:03:07.600 You know, people ask me why I say greetings, and I think it is sometimes, hey, it's too

00:03:14.940 much.

00:03:15.460 You know what I mean?

00:03:16.100 hi yeah it's too much to have to sing yeah a tone hey like greetings you can say in any tone

00:03:22.940 and something's built into it i can be like greetings and it's like there's something kind

00:03:28.920 built into it being formal language i think yeah let's just see do i did i i screen grab some stuff

00:03:34.600 i have something right out of the gate two things um yeah let's hear it actually there's three things

00:03:39.220 But first of all, have you heard about this, this wellness hack, this thing that you shouldn't

00:03:46.680 drink coffee right when you wake up?

00:03:48.600 Are you aware of this?

00:03:49.480 Yeah, I've pitched it on Pood before.

00:03:51.780 Huberman is big on this.

00:03:53.340 You have to wait 90 minutes.

00:03:55.260 So I have a friend who is always mystifying to me because he parties constantly up all

00:04:01.100 night, but then hikes every day.

00:04:03.860 But he was like, oh yeah, you can't drink coffee right when you wake up.

00:04:08.500 He does like the 90 minutes.

00:04:09.740 Did he give her a single reason?

00:04:10.960 No.

00:04:11.800 And then-

00:04:12.520 I mean, Hugh Bremen has reasons.

00:04:13.840 I don't exactly recall what they are.

00:04:16.060 Well, I'll just say I tried twice.

00:04:17.680 And what he says is start pushing by 15 minutes

00:04:20.400 because I'm wake up,

00:04:21.460 let's get the water boiling immediately.

00:04:23.100 And it's like, okay, push, push, push.

00:04:25.360 And then I had this experience the other day

00:04:27.120 where I woke up, say an hour and 15 minutes passed.

00:04:30.320 And I just was like,

00:04:31.100 let's approach this with curiosity, right?

00:04:33.420 I'm going to hate curiosity.

00:04:34.900 I know.

00:04:35.860 I mean, you know, just non-judgmental curiosity.

00:04:38.500 the foundation of mindfulness.

00:04:40.320 What if I were curious about this

00:04:41.760 instead of just going straight to the

00:04:43.320 judgment, the pain or the reaction?

00:04:45.560 Yeah.

00:04:46.480 But I did remain curious

00:04:47.600 and it worked.

00:04:49.420 And then I also had

00:04:50.240 shocking community levels

00:04:51.460 at an all time high.

00:04:52.620 So I live walking distance

00:04:53.900 to two major coffee shops.

00:04:55.460 And I go there sometimes,

00:04:56.560 but I really make my own coffee at home.

00:04:58.800 And so this was part of my kind of wake up.

00:05:00.860 I put on some jeans,

00:05:02.380 throw on some clothes,

00:05:03.760 walked to the coffee shop with a book.

00:05:06.200 This was maybe 8.30 a.m.

00:05:07.720 Can you believe it?

00:05:08.420 Were you carrying it in your hand or in a bag?

00:05:10.060 I'm just curious.

00:05:10.640 In my hand.

00:05:11.300 I only had, because I had, can you believe this?

00:05:13.480 Left my house unlocked.

00:05:14.920 Well, locked, I had like a key hidden.

00:05:16.800 Right.

00:05:17.280 Like true small town life.

00:05:19.660 Went with my book.

00:05:20.460 Are you sitting down?

00:05:21.320 I don't want to tell the listeners that you don't lock your home.

00:05:23.820 But all right, just fine.

00:05:25.700 You will from now on.

00:05:27.300 I went without my phone.

00:05:29.460 You can believe it?

00:05:30.240 Really?

00:05:30.840 1904 level.

00:05:32.000 Oh my God.

00:05:32.640 I'll be curious.

00:05:34.180 Went there, sit there.

00:05:35.020 Headed off to get some flowers.

00:05:36.780 Exactly. And I sit there drinking my coffee outside. And there are these two people that

00:05:42.180 I see in my neighborhood and I've noticed them from time to time. We've never spoken, but I

00:05:47.840 am sitting there and then they come and sit. And then I'm not kidding. Everyone that walks by,

00:05:52.580 Hey, how you doing? By name. Hey, Chuck, how's the fucking house? Yeah. But you weren't part of it.

00:05:58.100 No, no, no. I'm observing this. These two neighbors. Oh, you guys went on town, right?

00:06:02.060 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's good. It was good. I'm not kidding. Okay. And I'm going, what?

00:06:06.360 so that I start kind of feeling like,

00:06:08.100 well, I want to get in on this.

00:06:08.960 So I'm sitting there, I'm reading eventually.

00:06:10.800 So it's an older man with a younger,

00:06:13.420 who I assume is his girlfriend.

00:06:14.920 Okay.

00:06:15.320 And he does the classic,

00:06:17.220 what you're reading to me.

00:06:19.140 Wait, is he one of the ones that was partaking already?

00:06:21.820 He was one of the- 0.70

00:06:23.620 He and his girlfriend are the ones planted

00:06:25.040 at the coffee shop talking to everyone who walks by.

00:06:26.860 Okay, got it, got it, got it.

00:06:27.900 So now they decide to add to their rogue gallery.

00:06:31.040 Yeah, so he turns behind there and he goes,

00:06:32.820 what you're reading? 0.99

00:06:34.120 Damn, okay. 0.99

00:06:35.040 And I go, normally I'd be like, Jesus Christ. 0.99

00:06:38.200 But, you know, I'm feeling like I want to connect with the neighbors.

00:06:40.500 Yeah.

00:06:40.660 We start talking about Carl Jung.

00:06:42.400 He starts saying stuff that's like not really accurate.

00:06:46.000 I'm just like, I'm not going to correct him or whatever.

00:06:47.700 I'm like, yeah.

00:06:48.320 About Jung?

00:06:49.260 Yeah.

00:06:49.740 Or just kind of like Freud.

00:06:51.000 It's just like, I'm like, this is not really it.

00:06:52.640 But, you know, God bless the time to talk.

00:06:54.120 And then, of course, it's what always happens, right?

00:06:55.920 It's like, what do you do?

00:06:56.740 Right.

00:06:56.940 It's like, oh, no, here we go.

00:06:57.780 And then I keep it vague.

00:06:59.080 We're talking about creativity, whatever.

00:07:01.000 She's a musician.

00:07:01.660 But the point is ultimately a positive experience introduced by name.

00:07:08.080 I then start to wrap up.

00:07:09.500 I sat out there for an hour outside.

00:07:11.840 Yeah.

00:07:12.560 Okay.

00:07:13.140 And then I leave and then immediately I have the, wow, that I'm so transformed by community.

00:07:17.800 And then immediately I have this gut punch.

00:07:19.860 I can never go back to the coffee shop because now I'm going to have to talk to them for an hour every time, which is not real.

00:07:24.340 I can set those boundaries, but I did get scared.

00:07:26.820 But I love being able to walk down the street.

00:07:28.900 Hey, by name, that is everything.

00:07:30.600 and happened to me at a coffee shop.

00:07:32.240 Not my usual.

00:07:33.520 I walk up,

00:07:34.080 the guy behind the counter goes,

00:07:35.160 the usual.

00:07:36.080 And everyone hurts.

00:07:36.760 To you?

00:07:37.660 Yes.

00:07:38.200 Here we go.

00:07:39.140 And then I'm sailing.

00:07:40.560 Yeah.

00:07:40.740 And I've been sailing.

00:07:41.560 And then you wept?

00:07:42.040 Wept instantly.

00:07:43.180 Turned behind me to the other patrons.

00:07:44.560 Can you believe that?

00:07:45.640 Did a whole thing.

00:07:46.480 No.

00:07:47.000 Yeah.

00:07:47.400 Oh, you did one of those?

00:07:48.140 I made a meal out of it, yeah.

00:07:49.060 So you started doing the meta

00:07:50.560 that you're doing here?

00:07:52.240 Yeah.

00:07:52.760 Community.

00:07:53.300 Am I right, folks?

00:07:54.040 Yeah, yeah.

00:07:54.420 I went hard for it.

00:07:56.500 Yeah.

00:07:56.740 Did they love it?

00:07:57.480 Did they give a response?

00:07:59.300 it up

00:08:00.680 lifted me on their shoulders practically

00:08:03.120 yeah and then I sometimes feel 1.00

00:08:05.480 like the Jewish culture 0.99

00:08:07.480 has given me

00:08:09.100 a skill that allows

00:08:11.460 me to dazzle in those

00:08:13.500 scenarios and I

00:08:15.160 can't help but feel like that like

00:08:17.120 it's a secret weapon of course and an

00:08:19.420 obligation it's kind of like oh I

00:08:21.520 can sort of

00:08:22.760 instantly like

00:08:24.980 transgress charmingly with a

00:08:27.340 stranger yeah yeah i understand completely and i just i associate it with a kind of borscht belt

00:08:33.600 i don't know yeah i feel like it came down for through the borscht belt well by the way it did

00:08:38.020 it's ancestral and you must honor the ancestors through carrying on that tradition okay so that

00:08:42.800 was the coffee community i formed and then oh sorry sorry sorry oh look at that she's back on

00:08:46.820 celsius folks and then the next day the next day i go i'm gonna go to the rival coffee shop the

00:08:51.480 other one okay which for some reason like that one's always more crowded i don't want to partake 0.95

00:08:55.260 that i felt like i was in europe no i was in paris it was packed i sat off to the corner damn

00:09:02.420 with a americano for here in the porcelain cup oh wow wow sat there unbelievable ran into someone 0.72

00:09:11.300 wasn't scary damn in fact i saw them come in i could have i could have done an ignore and instead 0.92

00:09:16.640 i went hey holy shit i was feeling so yeah yeah can you believe that i didn't turn away i didn't 0.95

00:09:21.300 turn away i didn't hide i went for it you didn't lower your we end up talking for i would say four 0.72

00:09:25.500 minutes four to six minutes learn a little bit about them i thought you were from oh you're

00:09:30.540 kidding i'm sailing oh my god yeah talking about our lives talking about where we're from oh sorry

00:09:37.100 i'm just having sharp shooting pain in the head oh whatever take me back to the coffee shop so

00:09:42.100 this coffee shop felt like paris and i was really amazed and i thought okay i'm gonna start coming

00:09:47.260 here every single day hey you want to the coffee shop yeah someone's seated with a to hear not to

00:09:54.580 go okay cup screams out i mean that's almost like that's like they should be afraid i know 0.99

00:10:00.880 they come in and see a woman with a here cup with porcelain i know they need a fucking chat 0.97

00:10:05.660 well then i saw something happen that warmed me where there was a table in the shade there was a 0.99

00:10:09.960 it was like a you know four top there's a woman sitting there i will say discouraged by the amount

00:10:14.140 of laptops, of course, everyone's on their screens, devastating. And then there's a woman 1.00

00:10:18.640 sitting there at the table. And then I see this other coffee shop goer come over with her tablet. 0.99

00:10:23.040 She's looking around. Where do I sit? I'm watching this. I'm watching this. First day of school

00:10:27.360 cafeteria, right? Where do I sit? And she goes up to the woman and says, do you mind if I perch

00:10:32.880 you're on the end of the table? Did she say perch? That sounds like Cabor Lentley. Yeah.

00:10:36.480 Maybe she didn't say perch. But I heard her say, kind of laughed. I promise not to bother you.

00:10:41.560 oh no of course of course they hit it off no you heard them hitting it off I watched them

00:10:48.820 talking talking laughing oh yeah and then quietly as we call parallel play what kids do

00:10:54.360 next to each other having separate experiences I watched them doing their work they settled 0.99

00:10:59.920 into their work wait this is huge because if it had been like a they hit it off but fuck now I 0.90

00:11:05.880 have to leave the cafe to get out of this yeah yeah and I guess I didn't get my work day at the 0.92

00:11:09.700 cafe the fact that they were able to descend into parallel play the sweetest thing I've ever seen

00:11:15.740 is huge huge huge and they were still there when I left tapping away and uh yeah that was so then

00:11:22.800 I was like well this is what I'm gonna do every day I haven't been back since of course but that

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00:15:37.300 the other huge very poog related event so i texted you so has anyone have the eavesdroppers

00:15:52.620 heard of prolon this is a fasting mimicking five-day plan that i've heard about since

00:15:59.280 and you mentioned yeah like since the 80s i've heard it come out of your mouth gwyneth used

00:16:04.080 to talk about it okay Pamela Salzman who I used to follow a lot her online recipes unfamiliar but

00:16:10.040 okay you used to talk about it I've seen it forever you know it's like Jen Aniston swears

00:16:14.660 my prolon you know whatever okay so it's basically like state sanctioned starvation you know it's

00:16:19.480 like one day it's five days they whittle you down you don't get it's like they whittle you down

00:16:25.020 like day one is like your big girl day and you get like crackers olives powdered soup like two bars 0.96

00:16:31.820 is big girl meaning i mean your big girl pants and fast like a fucko or is it i was saying big 0.96

00:16:41.640 girl day because the first day which is still starvation is like the most you're gonna get in 1.00

00:16:45.180 five days oh like you're a big girl you need to get your crackers today you slob yeah yeah so i 0.91

00:16:51.940 was like okay so i talked to a few friends who'd done this and they were like both men they were 0.92

00:16:56.160 like the mental clarity you reach it's like astonishing of course and then my other friend

00:17:00.320 was like you know what's amazing just five days where you aren't thinking about like your meals

00:17:04.240 because that's such a huge and i was like right right right so i was like i'm kind of curious here

00:17:08.220 and i'm like okay i'm gonna do it you know i tell a few people i'm like i've tried to get i believe

00:17:13.020 i tried to rope you in i tried to rope john early interesting you didn't explicitly say do you want 0.96

00:17:18.100 to do this now i did immediately go wait did this get sent to you for free what the fuck okay i was 0.93

00:17:23.160 like i paid i paid i paid yeah yeah so i'm kind of like okay i'm looking at my schedule going all 0.70

00:17:28.100 right. You know, these are two days I'm going to hang out with my parents a lot, you know,

00:17:31.360 not going to be super social. I'll be able to do this.

00:17:33.980 You just genuinely were like curious?

00:17:36.580 Yes. I swear. I've been curious about this thing for years. I'm like,

00:17:39.760 what if I'm like reached new heights and I've, you know, what I'm trying to say.

00:17:43.960 This was about spiritual clarity. I'm just going to, not something you decided it was

00:17:49.540 self-berating.

00:17:50.700 And if my abs are rock hard by the end.

00:17:53.480 Yeah. Yeah. Back from Rome, you know, detox mentality.

00:17:58.580 Absolutely.

00:17:59.280 I thought, oh, back from Rome, I'm going to want to, you know, kind of pull back.

00:18:03.600 Needless to say, I got more ripped in Rome than I've ever been in my life.

00:18:06.520 There's no need.

00:18:07.180 And the food was the cleanest, most purest.

00:18:09.840 As indulgent as ever.

00:18:10.420 Indulgent as ever and never been better.

00:18:13.900 Let's just say it didn't last the full day.

00:18:15.780 Let's just say it broke night one.

00:18:17.920 Oh, right.

00:18:18.320 I got that text for you at some point and it didn't.

00:18:22.460 I never replied.

00:18:23.480 I was just like, here's the thing.

00:18:25.720 I was weak.

00:18:28.700 And I was like, well, I can't have that.

00:18:30.540 I was hungry, which, of course, I just didn't expect that.

00:18:33.880 Well, day one.

00:18:34.740 Yeah, right, right.

00:18:35.880 I mean.

00:18:36.360 You mean day one's the hardest?

00:18:37.540 Yeah.

00:18:37.800 Well.

00:18:38.180 No, of course.

00:18:38.880 You're not going to.

00:18:39.600 I mean, it wouldn't be a thing.

00:18:40.840 They say day three is the hardest.

00:18:42.900 Yeah.

00:18:43.040 No, and I was like, I'm really going to do it.

00:18:44.440 I did do the master cleanse.

00:18:45.800 I mean, let's just.

00:18:46.500 Oh, my God.

00:18:47.040 I remember that I did the master cleanse for about eight days.

00:18:50.360 Eight days of cayenne. 1.00

00:18:52.900 Oh, and then I remember you broke it with a white Russian. 1.00

00:18:55.600 Yeah. 1.00

00:18:56.580 Because I forgot I was on the fast.

00:18:57.920 I was at a stand-up comedy event.

00:18:59.980 And I go, that looks like just the drink I want. 1.00

00:19:02.260 And then I was like, fuck. 1.00

00:19:03.520 And I had the most exquisite fucking Chinese food after. 1.00

00:19:07.040 Eight days on the master cleanse. 1.00

00:19:08.460 Jesus.

00:19:09.420 So I was doing my Kundalini yoga video,

00:19:13.020 dance the chakras, et cetera,

00:19:14.920 sitting on my parents' rug,

00:19:17.280 you know, meditation, you know, the whole thing.

00:19:20.220 And I mean, part of it was just, 0.77

00:19:22.700 I was so fucking frustrated 0.90

00:19:24.880 with how I could not eat 0.99

00:19:27.340 even the lightest meal without immediately needing to fucking sleep was my feeling. 0.83

00:19:33.000 And so it was like, it was just sort of like, I don't know. 0.89

00:19:36.800 It was a lot of things.

00:19:37.520 It was interesting.

00:19:38.600 But yeah, I mean, it definitely is like, you know, you settle into it and you're, there

00:19:46.140 it is.

00:19:46.560 I don't know.

00:19:48.520 I don't know.

00:19:49.260 It's like, but yeah, it's like, it's like shocking at first and then like you adjust.

00:19:53.140 But I don't think, I mean, I couldn't do that as a integrated, like, well, I'm having a busy week, so I'll just remove food from the week.

00:20:04.660 Like, it would have to be, like, retreat style.

00:20:09.040 No, even, like, I don't even think, well, maybe that, I guess. 0.87

00:20:12.020 But, like, it would have to be more, like, I don't want to have a regular week in which, like, I'm fasting to the point where I could have mental clarity, but I'm, like, in the middle of doing some shit.

00:20:21.560 Like, I want to be like, okay, you're going to this cabin in the woods.

00:20:25.560 You're in Sonoma.

00:20:26.140 Yeah.

00:20:26.320 Yeah.

00:20:26.680 Yeah. 0.95

00:20:27.360 And, you know, I don't even fucking know. 0.84

00:20:30.280 I mean, because the other thing is like, what am I hoping for? 0.85

00:20:34.000 Like, at this point, what am I looking for, right?

00:20:37.860 I mean, here it is.

00:20:38.940 Here it is.

00:20:39.820 I don't need enlightenment.

00:20:40.840 Okay.

00:20:41.380 Okay.

00:20:42.320 Yeah.

00:20:42.600 I know what's what.

00:20:43.540 That's not the issue.

00:20:45.020 You know what I'm saying?

00:20:45.800 Like, soaring to heights, like, seeing, like, the glory of it all.

00:20:49.240 like yeah like I feel that often yeah the problem is the day-to-day getting through that the problem

00:20:57.760 is like the basics yeah so like I would be better served by a week of boot camp of like

00:21:05.220 well a week of boot camp I guess I was gonna say boot camp of like you know getting up brushing my

00:21:12.240 teeth putting on my clothes okay and then I was just like yeah I'd be better served by that I'm

00:21:19.080 more like the wonder of it all is what's in my way if anything you know it's like constant

00:21:26.320 epiphanies like it's like yeah i know i know you're getting in the spiritual you know the

00:21:32.800 material constantly is what you're saying yeah so like you know the medicine isn't yeah i mean 0.95

00:21:38.340 because i would go off in theory i would go off and do the thing the whatever the fuck it is right

00:21:43.520 whether the fast or the ayahuasca or something or whatever or go on this spiritual retreat like 0.62

00:21:49.640 if you could promise me that when i came home like boy was i good at mailing things yeah

00:21:56.780 absolutely yeah like that's the executive functioning yeah is at an all-time low

00:22:04.140 the forms i really yeah continually i got one of these forms i got one of these things in the mail

00:22:09.020 It's like, oh, you got to get your car.

00:22:11.560 You got to get the smog check. 0.99

00:22:13.060 Are you fucking kidding me? 0.99

00:22:15.120 Are you fucking kidding me? 0.99

00:22:17.700 I got to take this thing in. 0.97

00:22:20.540 And then it was like, there's a number on the bottom.

00:22:22.640 I'll call that number.

00:22:23.960 Yeah.

00:22:24.480 And by the way, this like registration every year.

00:22:28.560 Laughable.

00:22:29.080 You have to. 1.00

00:22:30.000 Are you guys who the fuck? 1.00

00:22:32.440 Yeah. 1.00

00:22:32.840 I don't even have.

00:22:34.280 I don't even have kids.

00:22:36.560 I don't have a job where I have to keep regular hours. 1.00

00:22:39.840 I live like a fucking slob, right? 1.00

00:22:43.460 Or like, I'm like this glorified pig. 1.00

00:22:45.780 Yes. 0.97

00:22:46.440 And I can't imagine what if I...

00:22:49.920 Oh, right.

00:22:50.220 I just mean...

00:22:51.640 Technically, the flexibility.

00:22:53.340 Yes.

00:22:53.620 I don't have the daily anchors of got to get the kids up.

00:22:56.360 Which told you, I considered having kids just to be more productive.

00:22:59.960 Right.

00:23:01.100 Just to get my schedule straight.

00:23:02.560 To limit the time so that you could only write between seven and nine.

00:23:05.820 Exactly.

00:23:06.220 Yeah, exactly.

00:23:06.800 Well, really, your productivity goes to the roof with kids.

00:23:08.820 Raymond Carver said that you should always feel like

00:23:10.860 the chair is about to be pulled out from under you

00:23:12.780 because like, when you're writing, yeah, yeah.

00:23:15.220 Oh my God.

00:23:16.720 But he also said everything you need, I think,

00:23:19.280 to write, you know, life experience-wise,

00:23:21.840 like happens before you're 18. 1.00

00:23:23.760 Shut up. 1.00

00:23:24.140 I like that. 0.99

00:23:24.900 And also advice-

00:23:25.920 God, that's cool.

00:23:27.260 Yeah, like you don't need to, I mean, advice is like,

00:23:30.020 I'm a famous writer. 0.97

00:23:31.240 It's like, take, you know, who fucking cares? 0.98

00:23:33.320 Yeah, this guy. 0.98

00:23:33.800 Well, so-and-so is sad. 1.00

00:23:34.340 Go fuck yourself. 1.00

00:23:35.100 go fuck yourself 1.00

00:23:36.560 but if it's good 1.00

00:23:38.160 if you like it

00:23:38.720 then you take it

00:23:39.440 and you keep on moving

00:23:40.240 you know

00:23:41.980 these quotes right

00:23:42.940 they serve to

00:23:44.420 legitimize

00:23:45.280 whichever side

00:23:46.220 you're living

00:23:47.180 at the moment

00:23:47.680 yes

00:23:48.260 so if it's

00:23:49.500 okay you're gonna have kids

00:23:50.720 oh my artistry 1.00

00:23:51.420 is gonna be fucked 0.99

00:23:52.000 well so and so 1.00

00:23:52.900 you know

00:23:53.640 or um 0.99

00:23:54.300 fucking what's his name 1.00

00:23:55.440 fucking Jesus 1.00

00:23:56.340 Newhart 1.00

00:23:57.280 Bob Newhart

00:23:58.120 Bob Newhart

00:23:59.160 yeah

00:23:59.480 sounds weird

00:24:00.080 like an accountant

00:24:01.040 and can only write

00:24:01.680 write his jokes

00:24:02.240 like you know 1.00

00:24:02.800 like that kind of shit 0.99

00:24:04.320 i don't understand what did bob what about uh-huh let me just double check chris 0.99

00:24:07.940 chris bob newhart accountant had to write his jokes like in the evenings

00:24:15.980 yeah it's true that's cool something like that okay that's that's where you go you know that's

00:24:23.500 like you know where my dad's telling me to get seek gainful employment when i you know what i

00:24:27.760 mean like whatever it's like you need you know it's just flying through my mind i remember like

00:24:34.240 advice man

00:24:35.740 advice

00:24:36.140 I mean

00:24:36.580 should only be seen

00:24:37.920 as

00:24:38.420 perhaps

00:24:39.600 it's either a thought

00:24:40.880 you've already had

00:24:41.620 or

00:24:42.500 a thought you didn't already have

00:24:43.940 but just because you didn't already have it

00:24:45.060 doesn't mean it's

00:24:45.680 it's not good

00:24:46.620 so it's just another option

00:24:47.940 of a way of thinking about things 0.95

00:24:49.180 all fucking is 0.97

00:24:50.000 I don't know 0.99

00:24:50.880 I like googled

00:24:52.320 like the word self-reliance 0.99

00:24:53.860 like in the fucking 0.99

00:24:54.540 middle of the night 0.99

00:24:55.300 a couple weeks back

00:24:56.440 and then was like

00:24:58.580 what popped up

00:24:59.340 you know

00:24:59.640 immediately served

00:25:00.600 Ralph Waldo Emerson

00:25:02.600 self-reliance

00:25:04.120 that essay

00:25:04.640 which has

00:25:05.100 I'm sick of him

00:25:06.700 but keep going

00:25:08.000 but literally

00:25:09.260 have you read

00:25:09.900 because

00:25:10.460 it has a couple quotes

00:25:12.400 in it that

00:25:13.000 I've clung to over the years

00:25:13.940 I'm revisiting the thing

00:25:15.260 yeah

00:25:15.480 like what

00:25:15.940 like what

00:25:16.740 my hunger for the quotes

00:25:17.880 okay

00:25:18.280 let me see if I can pull them up

00:25:19.540 because I have a

00:25:20.760 sloppy version of them

00:25:21.860 and then

00:25:22.680 let's see

00:25:23.820 where did I

00:25:25.380 download it

00:25:25.980 classic iBook

00:25:26.820 iBooks scenario

00:25:28.260 reading a book

00:25:29.560 called The Talent Code

00:25:30.440 greatness isn't born

00:25:31.320 it's grown

00:25:31.740 here's how

00:25:32.420 okay

00:25:33.700 Self-reliance on other essays.

00:25:35.720 I'll explain why I was reading that too.

00:25:38.980 Bookmarks and highlights.

00:25:40.180 Okay.

00:25:40.560 Self-reliance.

00:25:42.200 Oh, yeah.

00:25:43.540 All right.

00:25:44.300 You know what I think I've really gotten from you?

00:25:46.100 What?

00:25:46.600 All right.

00:25:47.440 You're saying, all right.

00:25:48.880 Oh, really?

00:25:49.260 I really noticed I do that constantly.

00:25:51.360 And I do that?

00:25:52.340 Did I get that from you?

00:25:53.700 All right.

00:25:54.240 Like alone.

00:25:54.960 Like I'll be like doing things.

00:25:56.080 I'm like, okay.

00:25:56.480 All right.

00:25:56.780 All right.

00:25:57.860 I hear it.

00:25:58.920 That's funny.

00:26:00.100 I don't know.

00:26:01.600 All right.

00:26:01.900 So I'm going to read you a good, solid two.

00:26:04.380 Did I just do it?

00:26:05.160 Okay.

00:26:05.540 I'm going to read you a good, solid two paragraphs.

00:26:08.500 Go.

00:26:08.840 Okay. 0.98

00:26:09.160 Because I think it's fucking worth it. 0.99

00:26:10.320 Here we go. 0.99

00:26:10.740 All right.

00:26:11.020 And stop me if you space.

00:26:13.100 If you're driving, pull over.

00:26:17.740 Okay.

00:26:18.520 So this is him giving an anecdote that leads into our idea.

00:26:21.460 Okay.

00:26:22.300 I read the other day some verses written by an eminent painter, which were original and

00:26:27.100 not conventional.

00:26:28.020 Slow down.

00:26:29.120 Okay.

00:26:29.340 Yeah, no, let's, let's, let's.

00:26:31.240 Okay.

00:26:31.460 so I tried to

00:26:32.620 because it's written

00:26:33.220 in weird language

00:26:33.900 in that way

00:26:34.420 I'm trying to give you

00:26:35.580 the vibe okay

00:26:36.460 but so let's go

00:26:37.440 piece by piece

00:26:38.220 we got it all the time

00:26:39.420 in the world

00:26:39.700 it's pooped

00:26:40.460 you know what I mean

00:26:42.180 yeah

00:26:42.580 I read the other day

00:26:44.080 some verses written

00:26:44.900 by an eminent painter

00:26:45.900 got it

00:26:46.600 which were original

00:26:47.480 and not conventional

00:26:48.880 okay

00:26:49.860 okay by the way

00:26:51.220 the acting that you're doing

00:26:52.240 really helping me

00:26:53.220 metabolize the material

00:26:54.060 okay that's what I'm trying to do

00:26:55.100 okay act it out

00:26:55.960 act it out

00:26:56.560 okay

00:26:57.140 okay are you ready

00:26:58.540 okay

00:26:58.760 the soul

00:26:59.660 always hears

00:27:00.900 an admonition in such lines let the subject be what it may okay okay so i read some good verses

00:27:08.680 by an eminent painter that were original and the soul here is in you know original lines like that

00:27:16.220 a latent admonition right yeah no matter what the subject is okay now i'm translating in full okay

00:27:22.160 but the sentiment they instill is of more value than any thought they may contain okay okay and

00:27:28.280 it's still just setting up the sentiment and here's what it is i'd say to believe your own

00:27:33.040 thought to believe that what is true for you in your private heart is true for all men that is 0.97

00:27:38.040 genius oh fuck yeah okay now i don't know that's it oh here we go honey okay okay speak your latent 0.98

00:27:45.160 conviction and it shall be the universal sense yeah okay for the inmost in due time becomes the 0.99

00:27:51.140 outmost yep yep and our first thought is rendered back to us by the trumpets of the last judgment

00:27:56.600 Okay, whatever, whatever, okay?

00:27:57.820 I don't have to cling too heavy to this, okay?

00:27:59.720 Because we're getting to the part that's key.

00:28:01.540 Familiar as the voice of the mind is to each,

00:28:04.100 the highest merit we ascribe to Moses, Plato, and Milton.

00:28:07.860 Wait, go back.

00:28:08.540 I spaced.

00:28:09.080 I spaced.

00:28:09.420 I was thinking about Christ. 0.99

00:28:10.700 And my acting was fucked because I didn't have the line ready. 0.99

00:28:13.780 Suddenly I was like, Christ, Judas. 0.99

00:28:15.020 I was like, I need to learn more about Judas.

00:28:16.640 Go back.

00:28:17.420 Wait, is that they said it not books and tradition

00:28:20.680 and spoke not what men, what they thought.

00:28:23.740 Okay, so wait.

00:28:26.440 N-A-U-G-H-T, not like as in nary, few.

00:28:33.860 Okay, I think.

00:28:35.000 Anyway, it doesn't matter.

00:28:35.840 It works, it kind of works either way.

00:28:36.920 Okay, you ready?

00:28:37.840 So he's saying that we ascribe this genius to them

00:28:41.500 when in fact they're just speaking

00:28:43.100 the universal familiar interior mind

00:28:45.180 with courage kind of, I think.

00:28:46.640 Okay, so we ascribe the highest merit

00:28:48.860 to Moses, Plato, and Milton.

00:28:50.440 And they set at not books and traditions

00:28:52.760 and spoke not what men, but what they thought.

00:28:55.880 Okay?

00:28:56.440 Okay.

00:28:57.000 So here we go.

00:28:57.560 This is actually the part I highlighted, okay?

00:28:59.940 And we'll stop, okay?

00:29:01.640 But we'll stop as needed, okay?

00:29:03.120 Actually, let's let it wash over once because-

00:29:05.340 Yeah, do a wash over.

00:29:06.480 Then the meaning might come about

00:29:08.880 versus trying to go word by word.

00:29:10.580 Absolutely, let it wash.

00:29:11.480 Let's try this once. 1.00

00:29:12.820 A man should learn to detect and watch

00:29:15.040 that gleam of light which flashes across his mind

00:29:18.120 from within more than the luster

00:29:20.260 of the firmament of bards and sages.

00:29:22.440 yet he dismisses without notice his thought because it is his oh okay in every that this 0.88

00:29:32.320 is where it is this is what fucking are you ready yeah in every work of genius we recognize our own 0.71

00:29:39.080 rejected thoughts huge huge i know this line i know that line okay they come back to us with a 0.98

00:29:45.160 certain alienated majesty i know okay i have chills okay yeah that's the line that i always okay

00:29:52.160 that I've probably brought up on poop before.

00:29:54.080 I have an anecdote here.

00:29:55.340 Okay, so great works of art

00:29:56.880 have no more affecting lesson for us than this.

00:30:00.580 They teach us to abide by our spontaneous impression.

00:30:04.240 Okay, this is actually huge

00:30:05.220 and I'm going to,

00:30:05.740 because this is the next level.

00:30:06.660 Okay, but let me just,

00:30:07.540 let me say it again.

00:30:08.540 So great works of art

00:30:09.440 have no more affecting lesson for us than this.

00:30:11.240 They teach us to abide by our spontaneous impression

00:30:14.200 with good humored inflexibility.

00:30:17.340 Then most when the whole cry of voices

00:30:19.560 is on the other side.

00:30:21.380 Okay.

00:30:21.860 Good humored inflexibility.

00:30:23.780 Love that.

00:30:24.640 Love that.

00:30:24.840 That's cool.

00:30:25.900 Because that's like the not saying no to the rejected thought, right?

00:30:29.960 And then here it goes.

00:30:31.940 Otherwise, I'm translating because it says else.

00:30:34.880 Okay, but else tomorrow a stranger will say with masterly good sense

00:30:38.940 precisely what we have thought and felt all the time.

00:30:42.220 And we shall be forced to take with shame our opinion from another.

00:30:46.700 Our own opinion from another.

00:30:48.380 Our own.

00:30:48.620 I left a lot of word out.

00:30:50.000 Our own opinion from another. 0.96

00:30:50.980 fuck brutal this is good this is really good so by the way i'm loving is that it i'm loving that 0.97

00:30:56.720 there's a little more and i do remember that alienated all of this well this is just what 0.98

00:31:01.280 it's reminding me of is in a kabbalistic tradition yes there's an idea when in like

00:31:07.160 rabbinical kabbalah when they talk about reincarnation um because i've been on a 0.92

00:31:11.340 i've been on a real reincarnation kick um well here we go okay well here we fucking go

00:31:17.000 i mean but one thing i'll say in kabbalah there's this idea it's like you don't say you believe 0.77

00:31:24.420 it's not i believe in reincarnation i believe in god or something it's knowing it's what you

00:31:30.240 already know it's not belief it's knowing right so it's like knowing it's like what you're what

00:31:35.340 you're saying with that with what you just read it's like that internal the recognition of what's 0.99

00:31:41.340 come before which is what wisdom is and they say when you're reading a book and you go oh fuck i 0.87

00:31:45.740 love this recognition you knew it yeah it's what you already know yes and that's what to say belief

00:31:52.200 and i'm just interpreting but like belief creates a separation between you and an idea right it

00:31:58.200 actually the idea is like you know if someone says like if i look at you jack i'm like yeah 0.82

00:32:02.520 you were a fucking you were on ships in your past life yeah in like in a past life you were on a 0.97

00:32:07.960 goddamn ship you go yeah right it's not like you're because it strikes you know that yeah i mean and 1.00

00:32:15.160 And it only, I mean, yeah. 0.99

00:32:17.740 And the evidence continues to mount.

00:32:19.420 And the evidence continues to mount.

00:32:20.960 But I like the idea of attaining wisdom or whatever

00:32:24.500 as just knowing, a recognition and knowing.

00:32:27.300 Right, as a returning to a knowing.

00:32:29.740 Exactly, a returning to knowing,

00:32:30.900 not some kind of belief in something outside yourself.

00:32:34.520 And here he's talking about great works of art, right?

00:32:37.060 And he's saying like,

00:32:38.440 they remind us that we already knew.

00:32:41.580 Oh, I love it.

00:32:42.760 That's so brutal.

00:32:43.740 What did he say?

00:32:44.140 you have to endure your idea

00:32:46.040 in someone else's voice

00:32:47.560 or you have to take it from someone else.

00:32:49.240 Else tomorrow a stranger will say

00:32:49.820 with masterly good sense

00:32:50.940 precisely what we have thought

00:32:52.220 and felt all the time

00:32:53.060 and we shall be forced to take with shame

00:32:54.740 our own opinion from another.

00:32:57.460 Horrifying, right? 1.00

00:32:58.460 Damn, damn. 1.00

00:32:59.100 But there's also a pleasure in that, right? 1.00

00:33:01.280 There's a pleasure there.

00:33:02.420 Like when you're talking to someone and they...

00:33:06.720 I think not when you...

00:33:08.100 Have you ever articulated something?

00:33:10.600 I don't know.

00:33:11.280 Maybe it's cadence over content.

00:33:12.420 This is you with direct consumer marketing.

00:33:14.920 Yeah.

00:33:16.240 You just kind of roll out the thing

00:33:18.180 and then the other person replies and you...

00:33:21.420 I don't know.

00:33:22.080 I don't think it's always full tragedy.

00:33:26.500 There are different layers of it.

00:33:28.820 One side of every pleasure is pain, right?

00:33:32.560 And then secondarily,

00:33:35.080 there's a time in every man's education.

00:33:36.940 And it's funny how I get a distinct pleasure 0.99

00:33:41.420 from reading these old fucking works 0.99

00:33:44.120 where they talk of humankind as man and mankind. 1.00

00:33:48.720 I get a fucking kick out of that. 0.98

00:33:51.840 There's something like I enjoy walking around 0.99

00:33:54.360 with like a notion about like,

00:33:55.940 or I shall be forced to take from another man.

00:33:58.460 Like I think, I don't know.

00:34:01.960 I guess what I'm responding to is

00:34:02.980 a common thing would be that,

00:34:05.080 oh, you know, I'm reading that 1.00

00:34:06.280 and I should be going, what about women? 0.99

00:34:08.480 But I get this pleasure about it sort of. 0.96

00:34:10.580 Of course.

00:34:11.000 Maybe it's like I think I'm pulling something not intended for me and like, ha ha, I am.

00:34:15.360 I don't know.

00:34:16.060 You know, this has always been a thing.

00:34:18.600 But one face, one character, one makes an impression of another.

00:34:21.380 None of the sculptures, the memory is not written.

00:34:27.460 I'm hungry. 0.72

00:34:28.640 God will not have his work made manifest by cowards. 0.87

00:34:30.920 I'm saying that to lure you in, okay? 1.00

00:34:33.580 Well, that's for fucking sure. 0.97

00:34:34.500 To the next concept. 0.98

00:34:35.300 Yeah.

00:34:35.660 Which is just, you know, there's a time in every man's education when he arrives at the conviction.

00:34:39.780 the envy is ignorance

00:34:40.900 imitation is suicide

00:34:42.060 etc

00:34:42.440 he must take himself

00:34:43.460 for better or worse

00:34:44.640 as his portion

00:34:45.440 right 0.63

00:34:45.900 imitation is suicide

00:34:47.080 that was something

00:34:47.760 I remember

00:34:48.360 writing down as a youth

00:34:49.960 yeah

00:34:50.520 and then look how

00:34:51.480 it served you

00:34:52.040 you know

00:34:52.480 though the wide universe

00:34:54.240 is full of good

00:34:55.120 no kernel of nourishing corn

00:34:56.520 can come to him

00:34:57.340 but through his toil

00:34:58.460 bestowed on that plot

00:34:59.620 of ground

00:35:00.200 which is given him to till

00:35:01.340 right

00:35:02.000 not listening

00:35:02.440 thank you

00:35:03.300 okay hold on

00:35:09.780 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.

00:35:17.420 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.

00:35:22.620 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune.

00:35:26.640 It was hard to wrap your head around.

00:35:27.980 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

00:35:31.580 So no, I am not your guru.

00:35:35.380 And back then, I lied to my parents.

00:35:38.000 I lied to police.

00:35:38.940 I lied to everybody.

00:35:40.260 There were years, Ryder, where I could not say your name.

00:35:43.240 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,

00:35:45.920 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,

00:35:48.740 whomever I can, to try to find out what actually happened.

00:35:52.080 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods

00:35:55.000 and not the obvious boyfriend?

00:35:56.420 They have had this case for 30 years. 0.92

00:35:59.620 I'll teach you sons of a** to come around here and my wife. 0.90

00:36:02.640 Boom, boom. 0.97

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00:39:11.520 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

00:39:13.920 or wherever you get your podcasts. 0.50

00:39:20.780 That's a crack open, a can of dolmas.

00:39:22.880 What's that?

00:39:23.560 Dolmas, you know. 0.92

00:39:25.100 No.

00:39:25.520 That grape leaves, rice wrapped in grape leaves.

00:39:28.600 Oh, a container of, when you said that,

00:39:30.180 I was picturing it.

00:39:30.800 I saw that amazing tahini from Zoom. 1.00

00:39:33.520 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:39:34.560 If I'm saying that they sent. 1.00

00:39:36.440 Incredible tahini. 0.97

00:39:37.740 Really. 1.00

00:39:38.620 S-O-O-M. 1.00

00:39:40.080 Let me just pull up my screen grab for you.

00:39:42.580 I saw a thing.

00:39:43.440 So now I'm getting served all these ADD, ADHD content things.

00:39:46.880 And it was like, ADD.

00:39:47.960 And it was like, check your phone thing.

00:39:50.780 If it like media types, you know, videos, selfies, live photos, whatever.

00:39:54.280 And it was like, if you have like a high ratio of screenshots.

00:39:58.260 Of a ton.

00:39:59.000 Yeah.

00:39:59.180 What does that mean?

00:39:59.840 ADD.

00:40:00.180 like like it's more about the feeling the rush of this is interesting i want to pursue this let me

00:40:06.880 screen grab this for later yeah yeah and having so many of those and obviously you can't go visit

00:40:14.540 all of them so it's like that's the like tragic add feeling of constant loss and mourning all the

00:40:20.400 interesting things yeah and it's like i go through and it's like photos whatever whatever and then

00:40:24.540 like screenshots 22 000 oh yeah i'm gonna come in screenshots i have this is fun like what are

00:40:29.260 Do you have 22,000? 1.00

00:40:30.900 Damn, bitch. 1.00

00:40:32.220 And like, I'm pretty sure I deleted it. 1.00

00:40:34.220 Like I did like-

00:40:34.940 Oh my God.

00:40:35.440 I have 19,429.

00:40:38.920 There it is. 1.00

00:40:40.020 Fuck. 1.00

00:40:40.500 I didn't realize I had that many. 1.00

00:40:41.920 Okay.

00:40:42.220 I saw an insane.

00:40:43.480 So one of the things I-

00:40:44.500 19,000.

00:40:45.420 Pulled up.

00:40:46.120 Combine cottage cheese and blender or food processor.

00:40:49.900 Mix egg white powder with water and cinnamon.

00:40:52.400 This is one of these three ingredient bread loaves. 0.99

00:40:55.600 Oh, crap. 0.97

00:40:56.080 No, I've seen this. 0.99

00:40:57.060 Okay.

00:40:57.260 Yeah, this is cottage cheese, egg white powder, folded raisins, and then this sicko, you know, can eat.

00:41:07.300 You know what I have been making?

00:41:08.620 Frozen cocktails for myself at night.

00:41:10.420 Oh, my God.

00:41:11.040 I want to hear about this because I was looking at a recipe for a frozen espresso martini.

00:41:15.660 Okay. 1.00

00:41:16.200 I decided to join in and say it with you at the same time because we get served the same shit. 0.99

00:41:21.400 It is actually disturbing. 1.00

00:41:23.080 Our brains have been infiltrated.

00:41:24.980 Okay.

00:41:25.220 We both got served literally in like discovery view.

00:41:29.780 And I got the screen.

00:41:31.520 I got the screen.

00:41:32.540 If I have the same screen grab, it's like insane.

00:41:35.240 It sent me down to then a Google search,

00:41:36.920 where then I started Google searching for others because that one was...

00:41:40.620 Have you done the espresso yet?

00:41:42.200 No, because...

00:41:43.260 And last night I was in Ralph's looking for espresso powder 1.00

00:41:46.060 because I found my way to Nom Nom, G-N-O-M, G-N-O-M,

00:41:49.860 with a dash in between for her recipes.

00:41:53.320 Okay, because I knew she had a...

00:41:55.020 We used to eat her pasta.

00:41:55.900 The frozen piece can be achieved by anyone.

00:41:58.160 So I wanted to go to her, right.

00:41:59.900 I wanted to go to her and do a sugar-free allulose sweetened version

00:42:06.180 so that I could have 90 and my blood sugar not noticed.

00:42:11.340 Okay.

00:42:11.860 Yeah.

00:42:12.320 So she says you can make a fake…

00:42:14.420 Kahlua?

00:42:15.240 Yes, by doing rum.

00:42:17.560 Good luck.

00:42:17.940 Because rum is in Kahlua, I guess.

00:42:19.880 Okay.

00:42:20.180 Doing rum and a pinch of espresso powder.

00:42:23.160 Okay.

00:42:23.760 So you do that.

00:42:24.360 That's your substitute there.

00:42:26.060 Allulose is the, you know, it's the sweetener I choose.

00:42:29.040 Okay.

00:42:29.280 Because it literally doesn't have a bad taste.

00:42:31.620 So that's nice. 0.99

00:42:33.000 We've been suffering with fucking erythritol and stevia's bitterness for years. 0.99

00:42:38.260 Yeah. 1.00

00:42:38.700 Yeah.

00:42:38.880 Acting like it's working.

00:42:40.400 And last night I made a frozen strawberry margarita for myself.

00:42:45.800 Yum.

00:42:46.560 How was it?

00:42:47.160 It takes a second if you keep that thing out on the counter.

00:42:49.300 And you do because you've got a Vitamix.

00:42:51.280 Yep.

00:42:51.620 It just takes a quick second.

00:42:52.840 you just drop it in

00:42:53.860 some frozen strawberries

00:42:54.800 oh my god

00:42:55.980 Jacqueline

00:42:56.500 wait

00:42:57.180 you were gonna make me

00:42:58.040 pina coladas

00:42:58.720 like years ago

00:42:59.560 I haven't forgotten

00:43:00.160 the other day

00:43:00.740 I was going to

00:43:01.340 and then my coconut cream

00:43:02.620 cans were expired

00:43:03.860 oh yum 1.00

00:43:04.460 fuck 0.99

00:43:05.120 I think I'm gonna come by 0.99

00:43:06.160 like in the next two weeks

00:43:07.260 I'll prepare

00:43:07.780 I'll make sure I have the ingredients

00:43:09.460 and I want you to make me nachos

00:43:10.920 and then

00:43:12.140 yeah easily

00:43:12.740 and then

00:43:13.520 it's funny

00:43:16.620 because it's like

00:43:17.380 all of the

00:43:18.040 education

00:43:19.040 is all to

00:43:19.920 like it's all in preparation

00:43:21.400 for the fantasy

00:43:22.000 of this kind of

00:43:22.840 bacchanalian binge. It's like the whole thing is, okay, so that I could eat a loaf of bread.

00:43:31.000 So I'm picturing myself there with a huge pitcher of frozen cocktail. Okay. A loaf of bread for me,

00:43:37.060 a loaf of bread for you. Okay. And we just, and we just eat till we're sick and with no impact.

00:43:45.340 You know, at all times when you're obsessively doing something like what,

00:43:48.360 what is the end thing that you have latched on to

00:43:51.800 that you're no longer even questioning, right?

00:43:54.360 Yeah, yeah.

00:43:55.420 That's your end goal.

00:43:56.360 But espresso martini.

00:43:57.980 I can't wait to get espresso martinis. 1.00

00:44:00.800 Frozen, bitch. 1.00

00:44:02.400 Remember when we had those frozen pina coladas 1.00

00:44:04.560 at the airport?

00:44:06.460 One of the best pina coladas I've ever had.

00:44:10.180 I repeat, outdoor airport bar in Turks and Caicos.

00:44:14.480 No one was ordering them.

00:44:15.480 I gave us the courage.

00:44:16.580 I said, we're doing it.

00:44:17.340 You're like, I don't see a blender. 0.99

00:44:18.440 I go, it's on the fucking menu. 1.00

00:44:19.640 It's back there, bitch. 1.00

00:44:20.700 It's back there somewhere. 1.00

00:44:21.540 And by the way, not only was it back there,

00:44:22.940 it was to the front.

00:44:24.100 He whipped those up so quickly.

00:44:26.120 Oh my God, the rum floater on top.

00:44:27.860 Yeah. 1.00

00:44:28.060 Fuck. 1.00

00:44:29.780 That will turn your day. 1.00

00:44:32.400 By the way, that will turn your day around.

00:44:37.180 I would argue a pina colada not only churns the present,

00:44:42.180 a pina colada will retroactively improve the sins of the day.

00:44:45.380 a frozen pina colada has this ability to lift unlike anything else well it's you know to bring

00:44:52.660 vacation home it's that that whole thing i mean what i feel i'm getting away with when i make a 0.94

00:44:57.000 frozen cocktail at home like holy shit i couldn't fucking believe it last night like i was like 0.83

00:45:00.880 and i don't even have all the ingredients i need like oh you know what i did at home a mojito 0.97

00:45:04.860 okay because i had i was like i don't fresh mint all i needed was mint lime i think and rum

00:45:11.340 and I got it going

00:45:14.080 and then I was like

00:45:14.540 let's turn it into a frozen

00:45:15.700 threw it in the blender

00:45:17.020 delicious

00:45:18.140 there's something else

00:45:20.340 I was trying

00:45:20.860 what else did I want to make

00:45:22.260 I mean I've been really enjoying

00:45:23.640 actually my

00:45:24.260 Vita chocolate

00:45:25.860 you know collagen

00:45:27.080 dumped in with the

00:45:28.560 bone broth

00:45:29.240 vanilla protein

00:45:30.140 so you're into it

00:45:31.040 I mean

00:45:32.360 what's not to like

00:45:33.720 in chocolatey

00:45:34.500 delicious powder

00:45:35.320 we haven't talked about it

00:45:36.420 I recommended it to you

00:45:37.400 and it's a full

00:45:38.360 yes

00:45:38.880 and it's a full

00:45:39.980 What vanilla powder are you using?

00:45:42.280 Because I need a good protein powder

00:45:43.520 The one

00:45:44.220 The one I paid a hundred bucks for

00:45:45.680 Remember?

00:45:46.440 Wait, how's it working out?

00:45:47.860 I mean

00:45:48.320 Oh wait, I don't know

00:45:49.680 I was going to say

00:45:49.920 Here's a huge food drop

00:45:51.140 I still can't answer a letter

00:45:52.320 But

00:45:52.740 One word

00:45:54.380 Armra

00:45:55.640 Okay, here we go

00:45:56.840 Here we go

00:45:57.260 One word

00:45:57.880 Here we go

00:45:58.280 And by the way

00:45:58.940 Armra corporate needs to hear this

00:46:00.880 I've paid out of pocket now

00:46:02.620 Multiple weeks

00:46:03.160 I bought to start the 30

00:46:04.580 The travel pack

00:46:05.340 30 day

00:46:05.860 Ran through that

00:46:06.720 I re-upped for the at-home tub

00:46:08.900 The canister

00:46:09.040 and the 30-day pack.

00:46:11.040 So I just want to take,

00:46:12.240 so I recommended this to you.

00:46:13.420 I said, Kate.

00:46:15.240 Now it is colostrum.

00:46:17.580 Yeah, which is like 0.96

00:46:18.420 bovine cock. 0.98

00:46:20.060 It's like, 1.00

00:46:20.540 it's like scooped out 0.88

00:46:22.660 from the cocks of 0.57

00:46:23.740 menstrual cows. 0.98

00:46:25.700 I think it's more the 0.87

00:46:26.980 fed cow.

00:46:27.380 Are you sitting down?

00:46:28.640 Are you sitting down?

00:46:29.480 I put it right in my mouth.

00:46:30.580 I don't mix it into something else.

00:46:31.940 I remember reading on the back.

00:46:34.960 On the back,

00:46:36.100 they go,

00:46:36.720 you can put it right in your mouth

00:46:37.760 or in a drink.

00:46:38.420 I go,

00:46:38.560 well I'm not an animal

00:46:39.740 so I'll be mixing it

00:46:40.520 into a drink

00:46:41.060 cut to

00:46:41.680 then I went

00:46:42.120 why not give it

00:46:42.900 the unflavored

00:46:43.820 regular kind

00:46:44.520 right in the mouth

00:46:45.120 it tastes like milk

00:46:45.900 it tastes like powdered milk

00:46:46.720 it's kind of

00:46:47.480 I kind of love it

00:46:48.160 I also noticed

00:46:49.900 and they say you can

00:46:50.440 up to two scoops a day

00:46:51.520 well I know

00:46:52.160 and now I'm gonna up it

00:46:53.400 okay I'm starting

00:46:54.080 to up it around here

00:46:54.840 because

00:46:55.180 so I was actually doing

00:46:56.860 the joy I'm experiencing

00:46:57.540 sorry

00:46:57.780 I've been feeling

00:46:58.600 a new level

00:46:59.460 kind of some

00:47:00.520 some positive joy

00:47:01.380 and I'm going

00:47:01.740 is it Italy

00:47:02.500 is it my life

00:47:03.040 is it the personal work

00:47:03.960 what is it

00:47:04.360 is it Armour

00:47:05.120 I've been having a huge

00:47:06.640 is it Armour

00:47:07.140 well

00:47:08.280 Well, if you want to let the placebo effect like boost you further, go with the testimonials.

00:47:13.240 Oh, I did before I purchased them.

00:47:15.340 People's lives changed.

00:47:16.960 So another thing I'll say about the Armoura is that, so I was dumping into my, so the vanilla bone broth powder, right?

00:47:24.040 That I ordered, the Vita Chocolates Proteins, right?

00:47:27.760 And the Armoura powder in that now and ice, okay, and water, okay?

00:47:31.360 Now I was blending that thing up and it was filling like six cups, okay?

00:47:35.880 It was blowing up so much that it was like, I was pouring for Chris and I'm like, sorry,

00:47:42.280 there's two more cupfuls coming your way.

00:47:44.200 Wait, what do you mean?

00:47:44.760 It was just like...

00:47:45.560 You know, like, okay, like here's a classic tip.

00:47:49.160 If you ask for espresso dropped into your frappuccino, a grande frappuccino at Starbucks,

00:47:54.980 okay, it causes it to swell and puff up to a point where it can't fit in the grande cup.

00:48:00.420 So I would have to say, back in the day, you know, get the grande frappuccino with

00:48:05.480 two shots of espresso

00:48:06.480 in there

00:48:06.920 if I can have that

00:48:07.580 in a venti cup

00:48:08.280 thanks

00:48:08.560 because I want

00:48:09.160 everything I'm owed

00:48:10.200 from those ingredients

00:48:11.380 but the volume

00:48:12.420 yeah

00:48:12.660 so you know

00:48:13.700 they might not understand

00:48:14.680 and then they

00:48:15.320 then they do

00:48:16.060 yeah

00:48:16.960 even when they go

00:48:17.480 to make it

00:48:17.960 so

00:48:18.560 it was puffing up

00:48:20.100 and I was taking that

00:48:21.020 for granted

00:48:21.380 and then I think

00:48:22.100 I forgot to put the armor

00:48:22.960 in it

00:48:23.200 I think that's the puff up

00:48:24.560 because

00:48:25.300 I'm going

00:48:26.600 where's my volume

00:48:27.480 so the armor

00:48:30.360 might be like

00:48:31.200 the key to having

00:48:32.580 bacchanalia

00:48:33.440 chocolate shake

00:48:35.020 And I'm wondering if it's

00:48:36.640 If it's the armor

00:48:37.440 Is like what's puffing it

00:48:38.720 To the moon

00:48:39.360 Speaking of puffing to the moon

00:48:40.740 I would like

00:48:41.840 I'm forgetting what the brand is called

00:48:42.960 But I saw it on Instagram

00:48:44.160 I know that you're gonna want 1.00

00:48:45.840 This little Missy 1.00

00:48:46.580 It's a 1.00

00:48:47.160 I already know I do

00:48:48.080 Glass

00:48:48.200 Silicone wrapped glass vessel

00:48:50.260 That has a built-in whisk

00:48:51.760 What?

00:48:52.660 Yeah

00:48:52.880 Okay

00:48:53.460 Glass vessel

00:48:54.540 Wrapped in smooth

00:48:56.580 Silky silicone

00:48:57.600 Yes

00:48:58.500 Built-in whisk

00:48:59.680 And by the way

00:49:00.940 I'm gonna just find out what it is

00:49:02.200 Because I want

00:49:02.520 I want to formally beg for it

00:49:03.820 Like vroom vroom whisk?

00:49:05.020 Voom, voom.

00:49:05.840 Voom, voom.

00:49:06.920 Not blades at the bottom.

00:49:08.260 So this is going to do the work of mixing our-

00:49:09.740 I'm going to find it right now because I want to do a formal on-air post

00:49:12.500 because I want it in my hands in the next seven business days.

00:49:17.420 Okay.

00:49:17.920 I think we have been slacking on begging.

00:49:20.320 By the way, it's somewhere in my screenshots.

00:49:22.120 Don't we know?

00:49:22.840 Okay.

00:49:23.120 We have been slacking.

00:49:24.440 It's hard to the V, I feel.

00:49:26.240 Okay.

00:49:26.460 Keep going.

00:49:27.020 So the purpose of that, let's just take a minute, is what?

00:49:30.640 Well, what you're describing.

00:49:31.720 So you could have if you want to go.

00:49:32.940 Yeah.

00:49:33.580 Mix up your powders in there.

00:49:34.480 ostensibly your matcha

00:49:35.960 I doubt it

00:49:36.600 but the on the go

00:49:37.240 why though

00:49:38.120 because you got four kids

00:49:39.400 no but why

00:49:42.860 why

00:49:43.740 like

00:49:44.460 remember the blend jet

00:49:45.780 okay

00:49:46.120 yeah that failed you

00:49:46.920 and the whole thing with that

00:49:47.860 no that was because

00:49:48.600 I was trying to

00:49:49.320 create lemon drink

00:49:50.300 on the road

00:49:50.820 and it like

00:49:51.480 yeah that's crazy

00:49:52.180 plan of like

00:49:53.080 psychosis

00:49:54.060 okay

00:49:54.660 yeah you know

00:49:56.060 I found it

00:49:56.680 this

00:49:57.140 I knew it started with a V 1.00

00:49:58.220 V-I-S-P

00:49:59.280 the bottle that whisks

00:50:00.520 your protein shakes

00:50:01.420 whisk and enjoy

00:50:02.200 your superfoods

00:50:02.920 in 15 seconds

00:50:03.980 Do you think they tested BISP, a bottle of the WISPs, and it wasn't really working?

00:50:08.520 BISP.

00:50:08.980 Oh, yeah, maybe.

00:50:09.680 I mean, because it doesn't sound good.

00:50:11.940 So it whisks, it's going to create froth.

00:50:14.840 It's going to create a bit of, oh, key, key thing, according to Paola of Nom Nom, okay?

00:50:20.440 If you make your espresso martini, you need to use hot espresso just made because when

00:50:27.040 you dump that in, the hot espresso, and shake it up with the ice, okay?

00:50:31.580 Yeah.

00:50:32.220 That's what creates that froth.

00:50:34.540 Oh.

00:50:35.700 If the espresso is cold or room temperature,

00:50:37.860 you're not going to get the froth.

00:50:40.000 Okay.

00:50:40.440 This is huge news.

00:50:41.780 And by the way,

00:50:42.180 I got confused because the frozen espresso,

00:50:46.400 they're frozen in an ice cube tray.

00:50:48.180 Yes.

00:50:48.460 I'm talking about,

00:50:49.580 you're talking about a classic.

00:50:50.600 A classic.

00:50:51.160 I mean,

00:50:51.320 because imagine mixing it up at home and there's no froth.

00:50:53.260 I'm just going to say this.

00:50:54.220 You and I are getting Italian food on Sunday.

00:50:56.020 I can't wait.

00:50:56.520 I'm so excited.

00:50:57.560 Going to Mozza.

00:50:58.900 They have an espresso martini.

00:51:00.560 Will you be getting one with me?

00:51:01.760 And do you believe,

00:51:02.920 because i was with john in new york we had espresso martini's top of the meal wasn't the

00:51:07.140 right move too much sweetness for the top it's a dessert drink isn't it right right but also i hate

00:51:12.620 a dessert drink when you're like already full it's sort of like technically even though it's

00:51:17.660 worse for blood sugar is probably why i love it i kind of almost think you know it's exactly not

00:51:22.540 how you're supposed to do it but like nothing better than like an ice cream cone on an empty

00:51:26.000 stomach it's fucking phenomenal instead it's like i'm super full for my meal and i'm trying to like 0.85

00:51:31.200 force down something. And the sweetness is like petting my mouth to soothe my stomach. 0.98

00:51:38.360 It's like, I'm like, okay, it tastes good. So all to say, what would I start with?

00:51:48.940 How sweet are they? An espresso martini. Oh, I've had some bad, I had a bad margarita at the Grove.

00:51:54.740 where'd you go honey

00:51:58.060 I went to

00:51:59.720 I forget what it's called

00:52:00.800 but

00:52:01.340 it was a

00:52:02.400 it's like the one

00:52:03.300 that is just like

00:52:03.920 a literal freestanding

00:52:05.340 bar

00:52:06.080 yeah I know

00:52:06.600 by the fountain

00:52:07.220 yeah and

00:52:08.260 I went to Sephora

00:52:09.980 purchased something

00:52:10.940 brought it home

00:52:11.460 the box was empty

00:52:12.280 no

00:52:12.780 I repurchased

00:52:13.860 benefit 24 hour brow gel

00:52:15.320 which I love

00:52:15.940 yeah

00:52:16.300 the box was empty

00:52:17.580 which was

00:52:18.060 is it karmic retribution

00:52:19.500 for all the shoplifting

00:52:20.480 I've done

00:52:20.880 I mean

00:52:22.200 by the way

00:52:22.700 I'm gonna have to

00:52:23.440 take the box back

00:52:24.080 and go

00:52:24.420 So guys, are they going to think I'm lying?

00:52:27.180 Are you afraid that they'll doubt you?

00:52:29.160 Well, I'm going to say to them, are you absolutely out of your mind?

00:52:32.340 I did a test of a product that was like outside at the Grove, like someone.

00:52:38.740 And they're like, and if you decide to buy, we walk you over to Sephora.

00:52:42.320 Personal nightmare, you know what I mean?

00:52:44.280 And then you buy like, this is a promotion we're doing.

00:52:46.560 You know, it's like, can't remember.

00:52:47.720 Can't remember the brand.

00:52:48.620 Do we walk you to Sephora?

00:52:49.520 Yeah.

00:52:49.640 Like, we'll walk you over and get the foundation, whatever.

00:52:52.780 Okay.

00:52:52.980 Here's a question, Kate.

00:52:53.880 I purchased the Ilia serum tinted.

00:52:58.800 Skin serum.

00:53:00.200 SPF.

00:53:00.740 I'm on my fourth bottle, I'd say. 0.91

00:53:02.360 So something amiss because it stinks.

00:53:06.000 Wait, okay.

00:53:07.020 Someone else has said this to me.

00:53:09.120 Am I crazy?

00:53:09.760 I don't notice it.

00:53:10.480 I opened it up and I was like, so it's rotted?

00:53:12.300 Wait, you're joking.

00:53:13.440 I'm tempted to go smell one.

00:53:14.500 I'm very sensitive to smell.

00:53:16.280 Go sniff it.

00:53:17.080 I wonder what.

00:53:17.960 Right now on air.

00:53:18.760 I'm going because you are not.

00:53:20.040 Someone else was like, yeah, it just smells so bad.

00:53:22.140 And I lied.

00:53:22.780 I went, oh, I know.

00:53:23.880 But I thought, what?

00:53:25.360 Wait.

00:53:32.960 Smells like absolutely normal cosmetics to me.

00:53:35.960 So either I've been lucky.

00:53:37.540 Maybe there are some weird batches floating around.

00:53:39.620 I don't know.

00:53:40.460 I mean.

00:53:41.260 Mine smells like makeup.

00:53:42.400 Just very regular makeup.

00:53:44.220 Really?

00:53:45.100 Yeah.

00:53:45.500 You don't smell a kind of, how would I describe it?

00:53:49.200 Kind of.

00:53:50.460 Oh.

00:53:51.920 No.

00:53:52.400 It smells like lipstick.

00:53:53.520 It smells like it's completely inoffensive.

00:53:56.320 So this is a serious question.

00:53:58.420 And I think Elia needs to answer for it by sending large batches to HQ over here.

00:54:06.620 Great. 1.00

00:54:07.240 Because, and I was like, fuck it. 1.00

00:54:10.200 I was like, maybe this is the good stuff. 1.00

00:54:11.680 Clean beauty.

00:54:12.520 You know, I was like, it's fermented.

00:54:14.360 I don't know.

00:54:14.880 How weird.

00:54:15.400 I was like, and it's not, it's, once it's on the skin, I don't smell it.

00:54:20.900 I'm not walking around sniffing it on my own upper lip.

00:54:22.940 You know what I mean?

00:54:23.520 but when I'm applying it

00:54:26.380 it's still wet

00:54:27.180 when it's wet for me it smells just like

00:54:30.560 makeup and I wear that constantly

00:54:32.200 I just think yeah I think

00:54:34.060 something's amiss here

00:54:35.380 oh by the way I went in there with like this idea

00:54:38.280 that you put in my head of like

00:54:39.640 you're probably Formosa

00:54:41.040 because I'm Formosa

00:54:44.760 I went in and Formosa was like

00:54:46.500 number two

00:54:47.140 and I go to the people like let's just see 0.99

00:54:49.860 what do you think and they gave me like fucking number nine 0.99

00:54:52.720 shut up 0.99

00:54:53.800 yeah it was like 0.99

00:54:54.480 what's your name

00:54:55.120 I was like 10 away

00:54:56.200 I was like 10 away

00:54:57.060 from what you thought

00:54:57.800 no

00:54:58.280 but the other thing was

00:54:59.180 how's that possible

00:54:59.740 she was like

00:55:00.260 you can get

00:55:00.800 you can kind of get away

00:55:02.220 with like

00:55:02.800 lighter

00:55:03.500 a series of these

00:55:05.160 because

00:55:06.120 they are so sheer

00:55:07.540 you know

00:55:08.960 it's pretty

00:55:09.880 subtle

00:55:10.600 pretty foolproof folks

00:55:11.540 the thing about Ilia

00:55:12.540 which the skin serum

00:55:13.800 it does make you

00:55:15.260 like

00:55:15.520 there's the shininess of it

00:55:16.680 does that bother you

00:55:17.440 no

00:55:17.920 because you know me

00:55:18.700 I'm always choosing

00:55:19.840 oiled up

00:55:20.440 like

00:55:20.920 yeah

00:55:21.360 moisture

00:55:21.920 you know

00:55:22.660 preparing for the day it matters instead of the daily um there's another like product thing oh

00:55:29.800 you know what i have been using i think it was sent to us and i think it is moon juices plump

00:55:34.960 like jelly or something or hyaluronic you know i've been slapping that on how is it you know

00:55:40.060 good good no complaints uh i need a new serum this is a formal call out to everyone all right i need

00:55:46.040 a new serum what serum are you using well are you all done with yeah with everything that's been

00:55:51.960 You're from Sturm?

00:55:53.600 I didn't get a Sturm serum.

00:55:55.120 Oh, I'm through my Sturm serum years ago.

00:55:57.380 Like glow drops or something?

00:55:58.660 Yeah, I didn't get glow drops.

00:55:59.880 I got night drops.

00:56:00.520 We got different products from Sturm.

00:56:02.480 Because we asked for them?

00:56:03.920 What do you mean?

00:56:04.240 They just sent us different things. 0.99

00:56:05.520 Are you fucking joking? 0.99

00:56:06.600 They just went rogue? 0.99

00:56:07.680 We've been through this.

00:56:08.880 We've been through this.

00:56:09.400 They went rogue.

00:56:09.960 They went rogue.

00:56:10.840 And decided,

00:56:11.340 Caperlant will give her this.

00:56:12.860 Yep, they went rogue.

00:56:14.140 But I need a new-

00:56:14.860 They caved, 0.99

00:56:15.460 but with fucking caveats, I guess. 0.99

00:56:17.360 I'm out of my Dew Skin, 0.99

00:56:19.100 which I really like serum.

00:56:20.760 Which one?

00:56:21.660 Dew Skin.

00:56:22.620 Remember, I was trying to get you on it. 0.96

00:56:23.640 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:56:23.840 D-I-E-U-X. 1.00

00:56:25.900 Yeah. 1.00

00:56:26.060 Okay.

00:56:26.400 So, I followed the account. 1.00

00:56:29.640 I think a hag sent a recommendation to follow the account. 0.99

00:56:32.380 I'm out of the most recent serum. 1.00

00:56:35.120 Like, what's it?

00:56:36.160 Like, Triple Serenity or something like that?

00:56:39.020 Yeah.

00:56:39.040 Love it.

00:56:39.540 So, I followed... 1.00

00:56:41.540 A hag sent a recommendation to follow, I believe, the woman who is the creator of that line 1.00

00:56:46.280 because of the way she talks about skincare. 1.00

00:56:48.800 I may have chatted with her. 0.93

00:56:50.040 Yeah.

00:56:50.140 And I was following her account and I was getting even more excited about that brand because I was seeing the thinking behind it.

00:56:59.480 You know what I mean?

00:57:00.180 I want to read about that.

00:57:01.140 I love also the serenity of using a full line.

00:57:04.160 And I like that it's the serum.

00:57:05.640 They have the under eye and they have the cream, which I really like.

00:57:10.100 That moisturizer comes in that big tube.

00:57:12.320 I'm just looking at the options here.

00:57:14.020 My cousin turned me on to it.

00:57:15.520 Here she is.

00:57:16.720 Charlotte Palomino. 1.00

00:57:18.320 So, yeah, it was good shit. 0.99

00:57:20.700 French pharmacy finds that are actually worth it. 1.00

00:57:22.720 I mean, this is where you go.

00:57:24.420 Instagram, you've got my number.

00:57:28.220 She recommends an SPF. 0.99

00:57:30.560 Shit, I have to leave like now, actually. 0.99

00:57:32.960 Because I'm looking up where I have to go and I have to, I'm naked. 0.99

00:57:35.640 All right, well, that was fun.

00:57:39.160 All right, love y'all.

00:57:40.600 Sorry to jump off so soon.

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Alienated Majesty

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