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00:02:35.440 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:36.900 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:02:38.000 And this is POOG,

00:02:39.160 an ongoing conversation about wellness

00:02:41.060 between two obsessive friends,

00:02:42.740 two untamable intellects.

00:02:44.520 This is our hobby. 0.95

00:02:45.360 This is our hell.

00:02:46.220 This is our naked desire for free products.

00:02:48.500 This is POOG.

00:02:49.920 Today's topic, loosely speaking,

00:02:51.380 Reboot Trevi Livewood

00:02:54.840 Hi

00:03:00.100 Hi

00:03:00.860 I'm convinced that America bloats me

00:03:04.100 Really?

00:03:05.020 Just America 0.98

00:03:05.600 I'm not fucking kidding 0.99

00:03:06.640 You mean you came back and got bloated? 0.99

00:03:09.340 Here's what I'll tell you

00:03:10.100 Interesting

00:03:10.480 Got back last night from Italy

00:03:11.980 Okay

00:03:12.500 10 days

00:03:14.040 Great trip

00:03:16.040 And you know it just has to be said of course

00:03:19.220 Pasta, dessert, every meal

00:03:21.240 bread pasta cheese desserts every meal heaven on earth pastries flowing at 9 a.m you know just

00:03:26.760 everything okay felt great when i tell you also traveling not a single breakout feeling good

00:03:35.980 sleeping well no headaches oh okay interesting like what's going on okay and then i swear to

00:03:43.900 Do you have cocktails too?

00:03:45.520 Every night.

00:03:47.140 Aperol spritzes during the pre?

00:03:49.320 Aperol spritzes.

00:03:49.720 Aperol spritzes for the red.

00:03:51.560 Did you see one and go, what's the red one?

00:03:53.120 No, I know.

00:03:53.620 I love that.

00:03:54.020 But I do.

00:03:54.700 And I love an Aperol spritz.

00:03:56.080 I will say though, there's an epidemic in Italy.

00:03:58.900 The Aperol spritzes are not effervescent.

00:04:01.440 I repeat.

00:04:02.520 Ew.

00:04:02.620 In this way.

00:04:03.180 No, no, no.

00:04:03.660 And then I was DMing.

00:04:06.380 Trying to remember if that happened to me at all.

00:04:07.760 Well, a food person.

00:04:09.400 Okay.

00:04:09.560 I'm going to make a note.

00:04:10.440 Hold on.

00:04:11.100 I want to get back to that.

00:04:12.200 Yeah.

00:04:12.620 That's exciting stuff.

00:04:13.900 yeah I want to see if there's anything that I don't want to forget bloat in the USA and then

00:04:19.920 the Aperol spritzes no yeah okay go on go on so I was noticing this you know I drink Aperol

00:04:27.580 spritzes every single day and I the first couple times I went Jesus there's no bubbles in there

00:04:32.900 and then I went oh this is just the way it's going they're pouring flat Prosecco I DM'd a

00:04:37.240 like a food, like a Rome food expert woman. And she goes, yeah, they're usually flat.

00:04:43.300 And I go, what? So I took to ordering a sidecar. I would order an Aperol Spritz and then I would

00:04:48.260 order a glass of Prosecco, dump that in. Now, when they say usually flat, do you mean

00:04:54.100 like on purpose? No, God, no. They're just letting the Prosecco.

00:04:59.040 Yeah. They're opening the Prosecco and they're just letting. So if you, you know, by 6 PM,

00:05:03.160 that thing's been open since 10 a.m., I guess.

00:05:07.060 But then you'd think, you look around,

00:05:08.660 everyone's drinking them constantly.

00:05:10.000 Why wouldn't they be constantly opening new bottles?

00:05:12.060 And then one night I had the audacity.

00:05:13.780 I was at the hotel bar and I said,

00:05:16.060 could I have an Aperol spritz?

00:05:17.180 And do you mind?

00:05:18.460 Is it possible just to open a fresh bottle for it

00:05:21.080 to make sure that the Prosecco's bubbly?

00:05:23.020 Oh my God.

00:05:23.580 And then I watched him do it.

00:05:24.700 Is that in English, I imagine?

00:05:25.760 Yeah, it said in Cockney.

00:05:27.200 And then it was sparkly.

00:05:30.280 Yeah, and then it was sparkly.

00:05:31.160 Did they look pissed?

00:05:31.720 No, not at all.

00:05:32.340 But there's something going on where, so I just, you know, was feeling great, whatever, feeling great.

00:05:38.360 And then I'm here, I'm home.

00:05:40.900 My stomach hurts.

00:05:41.940 Okay.

00:05:42.760 All of a sudden.

00:05:43.360 Well, hold on, hold on.

00:05:50.100 This is where once again, poog, it's like people don't understand that I am wild and free.

00:05:56.160 Okay.

00:05:56.820 And that I'm the wild and untamable one in other relationships.

00:06:00.100 Okay.

00:06:00.360 over in the context

00:06:02.620 with Cape Verlaine

00:06:03.720 you keep me grounded

00:06:05.240 I'm like

00:06:06.080 hang on

00:06:07.300 I'm like

00:06:08.040 a wet 1.00

00:06:09.440 fucking 1.00

00:06:10.100 bag of sand 1.00

00:06:11.240 okay

00:06:11.700 but are you ready

00:06:12.560 yeah 1.00

00:06:13.020 bitch you were on a flight 1.00

00:06:15.860 for 12 hours 1.00

00:06:16.780 god you're good

00:06:17.400 notoriously bloating

00:06:18.720 god you're good 1.00

00:06:19.420 you dumbass 1.00

00:06:20.320 even though 1.00

00:06:20.660 even though I got in last night

00:06:23.120 which by the way

00:06:23.960 I was flying with John

00:06:25.160 I think so

00:06:25.920 listen to this

00:06:26.560 and I texted you

00:06:27.500 of course

00:06:28.220 yeah

00:06:28.580 flying with John

00:06:29.300 crazy travel day of like you know get to the airport in rome leaving rome for a connecting

00:06:35.380 flight in paris it's delayed we have then a you know almost four hour layover in paris then we

00:06:41.200 board a 12 hour flight from paris to la it is and let me tell you this so strong and i are sitting

00:06:46.940 in the back of the plane we're like third to the very back right and we were like here's what we're

00:06:51.680 gonna do 12 hour flight we're gonna be fine babe we're gonna watch movies we're like because we'd

00:06:55.460 already looked at the delta i was like they've got babe i was so excited to watch babe they looked

00:07:00.120 at the movie everyone needs to go watch babe on the way from new york to rome it was a delta flight

00:07:05.720 i'm frankly shocked they were taken by babe oh honey and delta no i mean i remember loving it

00:07:10.220 when it came out well it's time to go back i'm just surprised thrilled to hear frankly

00:07:14.460 the delta in-flight entertainment system yeah shocking curational style there you mean high

00:07:21.300 everything from yeah oh yeah someone's got their eye on i was i was astonished there's a woman with

00:07:27.820 i was astonished by the way they had the bodyguard i was like they're listening to poop oh my god

00:07:32.420 yeah the bodyguard they had babe they so we're like okay we're gonna watch babe we're gonna

00:07:37.540 watch the bodyguard we're gonna watch catch me if you can we're gonna watch and then we go oh no

00:07:42.700 the flight's operated by air france so then we go we're okay there's your face just dropped

00:07:48.200 no but here's what i'll tell you because air france and delta like i think you're one of

00:07:53.660 those ones that are like always like this it's the same thing it's the same like flight it's

00:07:58.180 like the post-covid global meltdown where now airlines are operated by each other it's like

00:08:03.480 chaos is that post-covid it's just always been okay anyway go on anyway so imagine this so we're

00:08:08.720 prepping for the 12-hour flight we're like out just gonna hurt we sit down our screens don't

00:08:14.940 work okay and I'll say this on the way from Rome to New York I'm texting Novak yeah well on the

00:08:22.140 way from New York to Rome you need to be witness John's screen didn't work which was right and I

00:08:26.520 was like John complain I was like you need to email Delta they'll give you some miles both of

00:08:30.880 our screens didn't work now when his screen didn't work and you were next to him so here's so I said

00:08:38.000 well out of solidarity I'm not gonna watch right we all remember when you said you wouldn't go to

00:08:42.460 first. Oh, yeah.

00:08:44.600 If I was upgraded.

00:08:46.260 So then, eventually, I want to say the screen

00:08:48.460 did begin to work. We asked

00:08:50.340 the... How eventually?

00:08:53.000 Hours, hours in.

00:08:54.220 Okay. Interesting. And this is not an exaggeration.

00:08:56.700 It sounds like an exaggeration.

00:08:58.320 Six times rebooted.

00:09:00.100 You had time to count, probably.

00:09:01.740 So, on the fourth reboot... First time, right.

00:09:04.300 I want to be clear. How many has it been?

00:09:05.820 So, on the fourth... It's okay. She reboots it.

00:09:08.400 No, no. Our screens... Oh, wait. I forget.

00:09:10.240 Here's a huge question. Did the reboot

00:09:12.160 Fresh off an app by the way

00:09:15.320 I want to talk about it

00:09:15.900 Because I'm going to state

00:09:16.480 I haven't been in a long time

00:09:17.480 I knew something was different

00:09:19.160 It wasn't bad

00:09:22.940 It was just like something's up

00:09:24.120 Was the reboot

00:09:24.920 You know when they're like

00:09:26.060 Someone's having screen problems

00:09:27.180 I feel like sometimes they go

00:09:28.300 And they reboot

00:09:28.880 And the whole system must reboot

00:09:30.340 So it wasn't the whole

00:09:31.440 It was just our row

00:09:32.320 Okay

00:09:32.880 Somehow

00:09:33.540 So she reboots it once

00:09:35.520 Where the hell is the router

00:09:36.900 On the plane is my question

00:09:37.980 What the hell is the machinery

00:09:39.680 What is going on 0.99

00:09:40.860 She reboots it twice

00:09:41.580 she reboots it a third time

00:09:44.200 John and I are beside ourselves

00:09:45.360 we're like wow it's been three times right

00:09:47.600 so then we're going okay you know what we're going to do

00:09:49.420 we're going to buy we're going to ask for a voucher

00:09:51.660 because you could for 30 euro you could buy

00:09:53.860 streaming on the laptop so we're like

00:09:55.740 okay we'll do that

00:09:57.100 they gave it to us for free anyway the point is

00:09:59.280 she goes I'm going to reboot it again and

00:10:01.200 he and I are looking at each other we're going 1.00

00:10:02.920 yeah fourth time like good like what the fuck 1.00

00:10:05.920 his begins to work 0.99

00:10:07.500 mine's still broken

00:10:08.440 do you have a headphone splitter no so what we do gift i bought one good question i bought it

00:10:17.820 for me and chris to be cute yeah what we do is i have the expert touch boom we hit it the same

00:10:23.240 time we hit play at the exact same time it's like conducting an orchestra wait no no no sorry i was

00:10:28.260 just talking about you're watching off of no i thought oh i thought you were watching off of um

00:10:33.520 whatever it doesn't matter go on so here's all this is to say on the fourth reboot his

00:10:38.300 starts working we're shocked and before we go it's not going to work on the fourth boom it does

00:10:42.520 she reboots mine once and then again so on the sixth time mine began to work but it was all in

00:10:48.180 farsi really but i could hear english but every the menu everything every button was farsi oh yeah

00:10:54.120 and you couldn't find your way out now at that point wait is john's working yes so no i know

00:11:00.460 what you're thinking you know what you know what i would have done just looked and matched the

00:11:03.740 buttons to navigate yeah of course so yeah my screen literally wouldn't get out of farsi no

00:11:09.320 like i couldn't that's not what i mean i knew you were too quick on the pickup here i was like

00:11:14.400 i was like i doubted her wait what were you saying okay i was like you navigate to the

00:11:20.660 language change screen by matching buttons yeah yeah no but it wouldn't this was a glitch you

00:11:26.420 know the buttons like wouldn't change it was chaos what you don't think i understand no oh i know you

00:11:32.560 understand i'm like i'm reckoning with how in myself there's something like the fact that i

00:11:37.580 want to like live in this moment and figure this out and like you know trust you that there was a

00:11:42.860 glitch and all of that it's like this fix it thing like i'm gonna go in there and be a hero now

00:11:47.520 it wouldn't it was but the flight was horrible and i had heard a story about somebody who

00:11:53.100 was um i guess really fucked up on drugs or something and fell asleep at a party in a 0.55

00:11:59.140 certain position that completely almost paralyzed them that they like were bent over in a weird 0.94

00:12:04.800 position passed out like all night naturally you thought that because you were sleeping on a neck

00:12:10.640 pillow you were at the same risk so then so then so that story went in there and then I fell asleep

00:12:15.820 in a psychotic position was having pain in the center of my back in a weird way and I went oh

00:12:20.520 god i'm next and i just to test my legs i stood up in the chair i like in my little row the first

00:12:30.680 woman paralyzed by taking a flight internationally coach god i once heard this man i really felt for

00:12:42.120 him i think it was on jet blue this was probably like eight years ago or something it really just

00:12:48.460 stuck with me because he was so horrified when he sat down to see that the seats had this built-in

00:12:53.560 lumbar support, I believe, which was supposed to be like a generous feature of like, these are

00:13:00.700 special and good chairs for our customers. And he's losing his mind because like a lumbar pillow

00:13:08.420 like will absolutely fuck his back personally. Oh no. And so it's just like, he's like anything, 1.00

00:13:14.740 anything like he wants like a board you know what i mean like just i actually can't remember if he

00:13:19.800 said anything anything can i have a board or my i think my mind started frantically thinking can we

00:13:25.560 get this man a board you know what i mean yeah yeah but the look of panic into the eye like it

00:13:31.800 wasn't obnoxious at all it was just very like whatever did i imagine that there are some flights

00:13:38.600 that have a massager in the chair in first i think that's real i never want that oh wait

00:13:44.380 Jacqueline, we call ourselves Jet Blue.

00:13:46.960 It's Jet Blue. 1.00

00:13:48.620 It's mint, bitch. 1.00

00:13:50.180 Really? 1.00

00:13:50.880 Yeah.

00:13:51.800 So you also texted me and said,

00:13:54.880 you said, somehow I'm in a lounge.

00:13:57.340 I'm in an airport lounge.

00:13:58.560 You go, despite being in coach. 1.00

00:14:00.480 I'm like, oh my God, she's a fool. 1.00

00:14:03.540 I'm such a fool. 1.00

00:14:05.480 Did you finally realize it has nothing fucking to do with that? 1.00

00:14:08.380 I didn't know that, Jacqueline. 0.98

00:14:09.960 I didn't know that.

00:14:10.400 If you have a first class ticket,

00:14:11.780 It'll, I think, get you into a lounge of that airline

00:14:14.540 if you're not someone with access to the lounge.

00:14:17.180 Jacqueline, I can't even say it out loud. 1.00

00:14:17.860 Are you a goddamn gold vallion standing? 0.99

00:14:19.800 I'm gold now. 1.00

00:14:20.360 I was silver.

00:14:21.200 I had achieved silver.

00:14:22.480 Yeah.

00:14:22.920 I was never in a lounge.

00:14:24.080 Never went there.

00:14:24.800 Does silver get you into a lounge?

00:14:26.480 Silver's above gold.

00:14:27.700 That's not possible.

00:14:29.220 Wait.

00:14:29.760 No, no.

00:14:30.220 I know what you're...

00:14:30.820 I know what it is, platinum.

00:14:31.920 Wait, I'm so confused.

00:14:32.840 You're platinum.

00:14:33.520 I used to be platinum.

00:14:34.520 Right?

00:14:34.920 It's so heartbreaking.

00:14:35.660 Platinum is above gold, I believe.

00:14:37.000 And I was platinum not in a lounge.

00:14:38.980 You know, it's so rude the way that...

00:14:41.780 If they take away status each year, you have to re-earn it.

00:14:45.760 Yeah.

00:14:46.460 Then status is the wrong metaphor here.

00:14:50.840 Yeah.

00:14:51.420 Okay.

00:14:51.700 It's like, I folks am, you know, whatever, whatever status, right?

00:14:56.020 I'm platinum status.

00:14:57.040 I'm diamond elite, whatever.

00:14:58.300 Okay.

00:14:58.920 It's like, it's this metaphor that makes you feel like you've earned something.

00:15:04.480 Okay.

00:15:05.240 Yeah.

00:15:05.600 You're a serious traveler among travelers.

00:15:07.980 Yeah. 0.99

00:15:08.240 You've invested so much in this goddamn airline, right? 0.99

00:15:10.820 with your dollars that now you're getting treated right for it okay yeah you're not just someone 0.99

00:15:18.000 who chose delta today you've chose delta for the last you know 30 years and then once you're in

00:15:23.860 that system and they start to tell you that your status might be dropped it's like then it hurts

00:15:29.580 the ego yeah because it's been about status so then it sort of hurts your ego where you're like

00:15:36.020 you want to quote maintain your status it's actually genius psychologically yeah yeah versus

00:15:41.760 what it really is spend x dollars and get some perks i mean jesus i know like the your your

00:15:51.720 status you're going to lose your status and the whole like you're building it for next year

00:15:54.600 it's like you ascended to you know it's like the metaphor tricks you into believing you've

00:16:00.280 arrived somewhere that you're afraid to leave oh my god i know and it's powerful you can imagine

00:16:06.520 when i realized i had been downgraded when i lost platinum yeah it was hard particularly when i

00:16:11.680 realized i wasn't taking any of the benefits jacklyn well i had to tell you i've been sitting

00:16:16.420 here thinking everyone that's in a lounge has a first class ticket that's how i've been a child

00:16:20.780 through like a child you thought lounges were just a first well also the other main one and i don't

00:16:27.760 you have i'm sorry to make this at this level of branding but like do you not have an amex no i

00:16:33.480 don't well that's the other thing it's all credit card like the amex platinum this is content okay

00:16:40.180 but i'll just say you know the amex platinum i think it's the amex but gets you into all the

00:16:45.020 amex lounges oh christy i don't know how this works the credits are i freeze on with ignacio's

00:16:50.780 curations oh my god i know holy shit the credit card stuff my eyes cross i have to learn because

00:16:56.480 you know i have like a master card from 1904 yeah that like no machine accepts nothing that 0.99

00:17:01.360 doesn't do shit money that you don't have that's all it gets you it's so fucked up okay so as you 0.95

00:17:07.340 said like a child i thought everyone in a lounge was in a and so i check in in rome she hands me 0.99

00:17:12.860 my ticket i'm seated in the back row she goes the lounge i go the lounge i go but how well i felt

00:17:23.100 I'm in steerage.

00:17:24.100 When they led us into the lounge,

00:17:25.780 I thought they had made a mistake.

00:17:27.100 I thought there had been a glitch.

00:17:28.620 I'm confused because

00:17:29.720 does John really know nothing?

00:17:32.020 Nothing. 1.00

00:17:32.200 Is he a fool as well? 1.00

00:17:32.800 Even less than me. 1.00

00:17:33.940 No.

00:17:34.400 Oh, way less than me. 0.99

00:17:35.920 We've never met a fool, 1.00

00:17:37.160 more of a fool. 1.00

00:17:38.680 At the airport than John? 1.00

00:17:40.200 This is incredible.

00:17:41.800 I'm like shocked.

00:17:42.840 This is amazing.

00:17:43.980 Okay, this is huge.

00:17:45.460 This is huge news.

00:17:46.600 I want to lead him.

00:17:47.560 Again, the night archetype is

00:17:49.720 coursing through you.

00:17:50.580 I want to lead him through the airport.

00:17:52.440 Yeah.

00:17:52.940 By the way, I heard or read when I was doing my travel back from Rome.

00:17:58.500 It was like, I think it was like, never do a layover in Paris.

00:18:03.080 Like it's the worst airport for layovers, I think.

00:18:06.360 Like for delays. 1.00

00:18:07.880 Oh, shit. 0.99

00:18:08.480 For trying to like get to your next flight in time. 1.00

00:18:10.840 I'm pretty sure it was like Paris is the worst.

00:18:12.840 And then the ones that are like king are like Amsterdam and Germany somewhere.

00:18:18.560 By the way, had the most phenomenal salad at Pratt.

00:18:22.000 No, Pratt. 1.00

00:18:22.940 Prêt, bitch. 1.00

00:18:24.600 You ate Prêt in the French-speaking language. 1.00

00:18:27.400 I mean, Prêt à manger.

00:18:29.660 Prêt à manger.

00:18:31.280 And by the way, best fast food, if you can call it that, I will.

00:18:35.040 Of course, it's what it is.

00:18:36.760 Salad of my life.

00:18:37.620 You've always loved Prêt, haven't you?

00:18:39.340 And I said, I want to pull a Novak and get another one.

00:18:42.000 Two salads.

00:18:44.880 To get another one just immediately or get another one for later?

00:18:48.320 Immediately.

00:18:49.160 I ended up being fine, but I was like...

00:18:52.580 This is one of the most moving moments of my life.

00:18:54.420 Okay.

00:18:54.900 Now, I want to be very clear what this means.

00:18:57.380 It's not just, oh, my piggish friend. 0.95

00:18:59.320 I'm going to pull a hog hog. 0.99

00:19:02.280 Okay.

00:19:03.180 No, it's not a hog hog.

00:19:04.540 It's a salad.

00:19:05.380 It's the absolute non-shame to have what you want.

00:19:08.940 To re-up.

00:19:09.340 And go and say, I'll have another one.

00:19:11.940 But specifically re-up.

00:19:13.200 Yeah.

00:19:13.660 So like me re-upping on a pina colada is probably what shocks you.

00:19:16.920 You think a pina colada.

00:19:17.860 No, that's not shocking.

00:19:19.540 What's the bold re-up you've seen me pull off?

00:19:22.480 so here's what it is too

00:19:23.520 to me it's a re-up

00:19:24.420 it's very you

00:19:25.020 because it's also like

00:19:26.000 oh I'm still hungry

00:19:27.280 but for you

00:19:28.200 it's like

00:19:28.640 I'm not going to get a sandwich

00:19:29.940 I'm going to get another salad

00:19:31.380 it's going to reboot

00:19:32.520 oh pull a note back

00:19:33.780 oh okay

00:19:34.920 it's even more

00:19:35.620 it's about

00:19:36.140 I want quantity

00:19:37.080 and I want

00:19:38.060 length of time eating

00:19:39.260 yeah

00:19:39.580 I'll have another big salad

00:19:40.880 well guess what

00:19:41.460 you can gorge yourself

00:19:42.580 yeah

00:19:44.520 oh well also

00:19:46.400 me ordering two salads

00:19:47.460 like in the room service

00:19:48.540 we spoke about

00:19:49.100 I know

00:19:49.300 and I know you 0.99

00:19:50.400 with your organic girl tubs

00:19:51.740 i do the two big tubs guess what i've upped it to three no no okay it's for me and grace

00:19:59.320 okay well that's different so i know i grew up like my mom like had these insanely big

00:20:05.040 sort of like i don't know artisanal like live wood bowls do you know what i mean like they

00:20:11.160 were so i have a you know i have this is nothing against your mother but live wood for me is like

00:20:16.900 No, no.

00:20:17.360 The lowest.

00:20:18.320 No, no, no.

00:20:19.140 I knew by saying it, I was going to-

00:20:21.280 No, no, I love it.

00:20:22.480 I'm just saying that live wood.

00:20:24.700 What are your thoughts?

00:20:25.500 No, no.

00:20:25.760 I know exactly like screwing in four hairpin legs to a live wood and calling yourself

00:20:31.260 whatever, a mid-century master.

00:20:33.740 And by the way, they charge a lot.

00:20:36.120 No, no.

00:20:36.620 I said live wood-

00:20:37.860 I know what you're talking about.

00:20:38.740 You're talking about-

00:20:39.500 I know what you're talking about.

00:20:40.780 The smooth kind of-

00:20:41.960 I just mean a wood bowl that is smooth.

00:20:44.820 Okay.

00:20:45.180 And has the natural colors in it.

00:20:46.700 I use that as an opportunity to go to Defame Livewood.

00:20:50.840 It's not Livewood.

00:20:51.840 I just mean like,

00:20:53.540 they would have these big,

00:20:55.780 like my hands are leaving the screen as you can see,

00:20:58.940 but just these huge bowls,

00:21:00.900 which you would make a big,

00:21:02.700 big salad that was with dinner.

00:21:06.100 And it was just like,

00:21:07.080 it was so plentiful that it was like,

00:21:09.480 you could just always be going back for salad throughout the meal.

00:21:12.440 You know what I mean?

00:21:13.220 And like,

00:21:13.960 once everything else is done,

00:21:14.880 there's still some salad maybe.

00:21:16.240 And olives and maybe a gorgonzola or whatever, just avocado, hitting avocado inside the salad,

00:21:26.600 which by the way, to land on an avocado inside the salad, it's truly like gold because you never

00:21:32.540 know. It is hard to get avocado to be spread evenly throughout. Of course. Actually, this is

00:21:37.660 a huge issue for me with preparing salads for me and Chris. Olives are heavy. So they're not just

00:21:44.700 going to toss and attach to the leaf like the gorgonzola right let's say i'm tossing the salad 0.98

00:21:49.460 yeah you can see the gorgonzola i figured it out it sticks to the fucking leaves and that's why it 0.92

00:21:53.980 why it spreads evenly there's no olives bang bang to the bottom of the bowl yeah bang bang to the 0.98

00:21:59.620 bottom so if you're not careful when you're dishing out the meal i mean the salad like you

00:22:05.680 gotta check so you know what i started doing i mean this is a two salad home right i mean this

00:22:09.400 like a two bowl home yeah i make the salad in my wooden bowl that i feel like my mother with

00:22:15.720 i love it it's not live wood it is i know there are no live wood bowls how would they be

00:22:23.320 because it'd be yeah you can't around yeah yeah i mean so

00:22:26.720 so i feel like my mother in it whatever i make my salad and then what i've started doing when

00:22:34.740 i'm really on top of this is i've dressed it i've maybe done the cheese most probably things like

00:22:41.160 that i serve that out into two humongous bowls and then i drop the olives on top at the very end

00:22:47.940 and they remain on each bowl oh got it and then i bring two bowls of salad into the room

00:22:54.760 and they have four olives and it's like you know i get these four murray's mixed no no i'm not done

00:23:02.480 I was like, so they get these, like these, whatever, Murray's at the supermarket at Ralph's, you know, Murray's Cheese Shop, whatever.

00:23:08.240 Yeah.

00:23:08.580 This is like the Murray's label inside of Ralph's and it's like an olive mixture, like the Greek olive mixture, whatever.

00:23:15.300 So there's like, or the Italian olive mixture, there's big ones, there's Kalamata's in there, there's seasoned ones, whatever.

00:23:21.500 So I'm saying like four olives, four olives, okay, of like the big boys.

00:23:25.000 Okay.

00:23:25.480 Let's say.

00:23:26.360 And then I go back for two olives, two olives of like the Kalamata, like we get the exact same olives.

00:23:31.260 Exactly, yeah.

00:23:32.480 very fair. I then struggle. I have a real struggle when serving food into two equal

00:23:39.500 containers. Okay. I'm sure I talked about this on food, but it's like, I start to identify one

00:23:45.040 of the bowls is mine and one is Chris's bowl. Wow. Okay. And this is a huge moment. This is

00:23:51.180 a huge moment. So this is huge. Thank you. Psychologically. Cause I just have this with

00:23:57.360 coffee. I was making coffee for two people. Yeah. Myself and John. And I go, this one's mine.

00:24:01.500 and that that's a huge psychological moment and then you go what's going on here so yeah is it

00:24:07.460 yeah and then okay so can i tell you what well yeah well sorry go go go all right let me take

00:24:13.100 you through my salad and then okay go and then we'll go back okay it'll be this could be the

00:24:17.260 rest of the episode so likely when you've stumbled upon something that's never been highlighted but

00:24:21.680 is a deep there's deep psychological material here there's so much going on because one

00:24:27.700 my sense of justice

00:24:29.460 particularly around food

00:24:30.860 yeah huge

00:24:31.600 I would never

00:24:32.680 actively be

00:24:33.880 literally

00:24:34.260 trying to like

00:24:35.520 get more

00:24:36.260 for myself

00:24:37.280 and hide that fact

00:24:38.740 okay

00:24:39.120 hang on

00:24:39.480 I have to interject

00:24:40.740 because I just had a huge idea

00:24:41.800 which is

00:24:42.120 interject now

00:24:42.500 like

00:24:42.720 yes

00:24:44.680 yes

00:24:45.220 it's like

00:24:46.100 no no no

00:24:46.740 so money is like

00:24:47.500 where is my column

00:24:48.280 is this not

00:24:49.260 tell me this isn't huge 1.00

00:24:50.600 this is getting cut from Poog

00:24:55.740 because we do not give away

00:24:56.760 pitches on Poog

00:24:57.560 I'm dead serious. 0.99

00:24:59.680 So someone you love, okay?

00:25:01.980 Okay.

00:25:02.800 Dishing it out, whatever.

00:25:04.180 There was a period where I was using the food scale.

00:25:11.440 Okay?

00:25:11.880 I was like, yeah, I'm trying to think what it was.

00:25:14.240 It wasn't like I was doing with the salad,

00:25:15.960 but it was like when I'm not,

00:25:17.600 if for some reason not using the same bowl,

00:25:20.680 like the bowls don't match.

00:25:23.220 Yeah.

00:25:23.620 So it's like really hard to say.

00:25:25.000 so basically the way I now serve

00:25:28.020 well the way I break down the salad

00:25:29.660 into two so it's huge salad

00:25:31.460 and then two huge bowls

00:25:32.620 the salad has been tossed in the thing

00:25:35.060 I take both

00:25:36.840 I widen my fingers

00:25:40.060 like palming a basketball

00:25:41.520 as much as you could

00:25:42.560 claws widened out to their full retraction 0.83

00:25:45.360 I lower them both into the bowl

00:25:47.000 and then I grab with both hands

00:25:49.480 I attempt to grab the most I can

00:25:51.840 okay

00:25:52.860 to fill my hands to absolute

00:25:55.000 where I couldn't get another leaf in.

00:25:57.000 I lift that up and then I drop

00:25:59.240 two hands into the bowls.

00:26:01.080 Wow.

00:26:01.760 And then whatever's left,

00:26:03.020 I divvy up by eye, okay?

00:26:05.400 I think it's the only way to...

00:26:07.820 Now, I'll start to feel like

00:26:09.400 identification with one bowl

00:26:10.740 and I'm going, why?

00:26:12.620 Okay, it's just...

00:26:13.580 It's like, so then what can happen

00:26:15.420 is when one bowl is mine,

00:26:16.960 I start to overstuff the other bowl

00:26:19.020 out of guilt, feeling like I've probably...

00:26:21.360 Right, right.

00:26:22.020 I'm probably unconsciously helping myself.

00:26:25.600 And then I go, okay, so I got overload.

00:26:27.400 And then I go, what about me?

00:26:29.640 Now you've probably unconsciously left your bowl.

00:26:33.460 Like, wait, it's not enough.

00:26:34.920 Then back in goes a little handful to quote mine, okay?

00:26:39.000 And then out of that handful, I take probably a little half and throw it back in the other.

00:26:43.520 I try to keep splitting the difference to infinity.

00:26:47.680 And then I go, and this is where it's really sick.

00:26:49.740 And then I go, well, at this point, when I go to carry them in, and you know the feeling of a hand in your right bowl and a hand in your left, you're heading towards, depending on what angle you come into the room, there's a very natural, this right hand is obviously going to be this person's, you know what I mean?

00:27:06.200 Yeah.

00:27:06.880 And I feel myself going, if that's like in some way the way I've unconsciously thought of it as my bowl, like, am I going to cross my hands?

00:27:13.500 Right, right, right.

00:27:14.300 The arm, like, am I going to walk? 0.97

00:27:15.740 Then it seems like here's the shitty one for you. 0.97

00:27:17.260 Yeah. And it's like, so that's the moment when I lift a bowl where I go, have I done good enough here that I can have either one of these bowls? And at that point, it's like, if I still feel yearning for one of the bowls, I don't know what to say about that. I don't know what that means at that point. 0.61

00:27:35.560 It's interesting because I had this, I was making coffee for myself and John.

00:27:41.240 Actually, I shouldn't even take the, in case he listens, he had brewed the baletti, but

00:27:46.120 I was pouring it into the cups with the milk and a little extra hot water, you know, started

00:27:53.020 doing it and started to identify with one of the cups.

00:27:56.460 I feel like, do you identify with the right or the left more, or is it completely based

00:28:00.120 on like, there's a moment where one is better?

00:28:02.460 I want to say left.

00:28:03.260 It's my first instinct.

00:28:04.280 For your own?

00:28:05.020 Yeah, but I don't know why.

00:28:06.220 Yeah.

00:28:07.980 I don't know.

00:28:08.780 Yeah.

00:28:09.320 I don't know how it happens, but it happened at some point.

00:28:11.880 And I started to go, this one's mine.

00:28:13.480 And then I was putting milk in them.

00:28:15.720 And one just looked, it was like a better ratio or something.

00:28:19.700 Yeah.

00:28:20.120 And I was like, ooh, I want that one.

00:28:22.000 That happens.

00:28:22.780 And then I went, I'm going to give that one to him.

00:28:25.740 We're talking about very small differences, okay?

00:28:27.760 No, you couldn't make a change at that moment.

00:28:30.200 Like you couldn't add a little water.

00:28:31.860 No, I know what you're hearing.

00:28:32.720 You must be martyr.

00:28:33.640 Something had happened.

00:28:34.180 It was too full.

00:28:34.700 Like, right.

00:28:35.500 You're like, it's like that you made it about like one is better.

00:28:38.540 And I'm giving that one to John.

00:28:39.640 I know.

00:28:40.240 And I was like, and I was like, look at me.

00:28:42.000 I'm going to give that to him.

00:28:44.160 Did you alert him?

00:28:45.280 No.

00:28:46.420 I mean, you and God.

00:28:48.060 Yeah.

00:28:48.860 I mean, you know, there was another moment of that kind of like with bread in a restaurant.

00:28:53.980 Let's say it's cut in that way that it's like, you know, when you cut a loaf, obviously some pieces are smaller.

00:29:01.460 They're on a spectrum getting smaller to bigger.

00:29:04.060 and there's like something interesting about that god what do you think about those baskets

00:29:08.360 of bread where it's like there's like one that has all these seeds and like something going on

00:29:13.360 and then there's like a white bread in there there's a mix of the flavors and you're like

00:29:17.580 digging around and you hit like a focaccia or something you ever have that olive bread well

00:29:23.580 an olive boulet have we talked about this no i don't even know what's a boulet i don't know but

00:29:30.480 There was a period where I was getting this loaf at the supermarket in my parents' town that was labeled Olive Boulay.

00:29:37.700 And I would bring it home and slice it up in front of the TV.

00:29:42.460 And pull the bread and just dip it in olive oil with cracked pepper and salt.

00:29:48.700 And oh my God, was it good.

00:29:51.820 Nothing like that.

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00:33:38.020 The flight from New York to Rome, I'll say, unheard of, slept on the flight, can never sleep on flights.

00:33:43.920 Yes.

00:33:44.620 And didn't eat.

00:33:46.600 So this, I want to talk about this for a second.

00:33:48.580 Said don't wake me up.

00:33:49.640 so stomach on the yes but stomach pain on the plane right this is something we all know about

00:33:54.660 whatever i've heard people go never eat on a plane yeah if you don't want to have jet lag

00:34:00.940 if you want to feel fine just don't eat on the plane and we've discussed this like well then 0.95

00:34:05.020 what the fuck else so you're in a chair hell are you gonna survive monkish existence is this 0.93

00:34:09.960 yeah so on the way back i go john let's not eat on the plane because also we're gonna land it's 0.98

00:34:15.340 going to be nighttime in LA we should eat or sleep and that was part of why the screen what

00:34:20.160 about why is landing in nighttime in LA is it like you're going to go to a late dinner yeah like

00:34:24.580 well then you can eat something and just go to bed or something right right but I was like but

00:34:27.840 also like let's try to get to rope him in John yeah I got someone saying to me the words like

00:34:35.300 Jacqueline what do you say we don't eat I mean although although in the mornings I would

00:34:41.620 technically really excel at that because of my my schedule essentially you're intermittent fasting

00:34:48.060 no but the point is when they first we ate at the paris airport the pret best chocolate pudding of

00:34:54.260 my life i was moaning moaning in the lounge and then brought pret into the lounge no ate pret oh

00:35:01.500 we were so hungry we ate pret and then we went oh and then putting in the lounge now was it in

00:35:06.340 little trays laid out under a, under a glass canopy. Yeah. The, the lounge, there was, you

00:35:12.140 know, charcuterie. There was, there was a lot, but then they had pudding cups, rice pudding,

00:35:16.960 vanilla pudding. Was John stunned by the lounge too? Yeah. We were, we were, was it a big one?

00:35:21.860 The lounge. It was big. The big ones are really, there are some that you're like, huge ceilings,

00:35:26.180 like a stockbroker. And I'm sitting here right now as I'm talking to you and I'm going, I can't

00:35:32.000 believe all the years I could have had lounge access and I didn't know no one told me how the

00:35:37.440 fuck was I supposed to know I didn't know Jacqueline I thought a lounge was only for a first class

00:35:42.620 ticket which like I'm trying to think about oh because that's like how many for you know on a 0.98

00:35:48.740 plane of what 200 seats like and one of those ones where it's like 11 whatever it's like it

00:35:54.380 couldn't I don't know if the math actually is but the lounges are really something I well I used to 1.00

00:36:01.860 think who needs that what it's just the same shit like you're like you're just in another fucking 0.97

00:36:07.100 like I used to just like think like who wants that to have to go into a place like a whole 0.99

00:36:12.360 fucking thing that gets you in pretty quick actually there are huge lines actually I should 0.96

00:36:17.700 say that there actually are huge lines we walked past when we were flying and we see a huge line 0.99

00:36:22.720 outside and we're like oh my god just standing in line but I was like well if we had a layover

00:36:27.900 we were delayed

00:36:28.640 and we were here

00:36:29.220 for like eight hours 0.99

00:36:30.060 we'd stand in a fucking 0.99

00:36:30.960 40 minute line 0.99

00:36:31.700 to get in the lounge

00:36:32.200 oh that's for

00:36:32.660 that's for

00:36:33.260 that's the truth

00:36:34.380 and I've paid

00:36:35.380 you know I've paid

00:36:36.000 to get in the lounge

00:36:36.480 I go out

00:36:36.760 I go go

00:36:37.160 does Amex get me in

00:36:38.780 does my gold medallion

00:36:41.000 get me in

00:36:41.740 and like

00:36:43.660 no no no no no

00:36:44.560 and then you can pay

00:36:45.680 and then I paid

00:36:46.400 and I went in

00:36:47.020 and the coffee machine

00:36:49.080 was broken

00:36:49.760 no

00:36:51.120 no

00:36:52.080 no

00:36:52.820 the main reason

00:36:53.760 I got it allowed

00:36:54.340 impossible

00:36:54.940 free flowing

00:36:55.940 espresso drinks

00:36:56.840 out of that machine

00:36:57.720 now they were willing to make it for you well lunch was i and they had la colombe on tap

00:37:01.880 wait what on the plane no no they had la colombe on tap at some lounge i was in not too long ago

00:37:09.320 but wait wait the point is the last hour of the flight john and i so again our plan was to watch

00:37:14.640 movies the whole time and not eat and the screens weren't working and then we both fell asleep

00:37:21.060 and then woke up with an hour left in the flight I smelled something huh John and I took off our

00:37:28.100 masks they plopped the boxes of food down in our laps I was so delirious I would if I had footage

00:37:34.280 of myself eating that food oh my god I was like war torn I felt like what were the what was the

00:37:40.360 food so it was this like loaf this like savory hot it was hot I held it in my hands like this

00:37:46.140 And I went, oh, it was like the nurturing force of warm food when you've been abused.

00:37:50.840 It's one of these like, wait, was this like the morning snack or there's, there's something,

00:37:54.280 there's something like the wake up thing. Yeah. And it's like a hot pocket or a hot,

00:37:58.700 like it's like a hot sandwich that feels like, well, that's one of the things about fast food

00:38:03.720 that people don't talk about. Like heat, like that's part of like, I was like, what does that

00:38:07.100 remind me of what I'm feeling? The warmth, the super warm, like, like wrapped up sandwich.

00:38:12.740 It moved me. I almost just moved to tears. I held it in both hands.

00:38:15.940 toward John like this. The child like, oh, I felt lifted. I felt like it was going to be okay.

00:38:23.620 Childhood, warmth, the love of a mother, it all came back to me in that moment.

00:38:26.960 I think it goes even further back. I think it goes back to like-

00:38:30.020 Boom?

00:38:30.900 No.

00:38:31.480 Fire.

00:38:32.140 Yeah. I think it goes back to the origins of heated food.

00:38:34.720 Yeah. Absolutely.

00:38:36.180 Or like even holding a warm stone between your hands.

00:38:39.880 Certainly. No, no, no. It's prehistoric. It's subliminal. It's deep.

00:38:44.800 and that loaf they had some sun sun-dried tomato spread for it this like savory loaf

00:38:50.760 it was phenomenal wait it was there wasn't it wasn't any form of a sandwich this was

00:38:55.820 just a loaf of bread it was just a just like a little warm loaf and a very french and then a

00:39:01.520 little peach like drinkable yogurt thing and like also another piece of bread and also good cookie

00:39:07.760 and then yeah john and i were so delirious um and i have to say rome deeply spiritual experience

00:39:14.540 for me the city the ruins did you hit any of the spots like piazza di navona what's that

00:39:20.220 it's it's like mateo mentions it on that that thing but it's like you know damn it people go

00:39:26.580 there and and it like i have pictures of me sitting in front of the fountains there you know

00:39:30.640 what i mean like whatever well by the way italy i'm going back yeah immediately yeah like soon

00:39:38.260 Yeah, me too.

00:39:41.200 Well, in my mind, I mean, I just, I would really like to get back there.

00:39:44.340 As we know, I went there.

00:39:46.960 I managed to just stay there.

00:39:49.320 It's unbelievable.

00:39:50.320 But Jacqueline, when you were there, oh, it wasn't warm enough.

00:39:52.840 You weren't swimming.

00:39:53.460 It was, we were there in September and I still went in the water.

00:39:57.400 How was the water?

00:39:58.900 Refreshing.

00:39:59.900 Like there were people doing full laps and like, or like, you know, just fully in it.

00:40:03.500 I was like sort of bracing and whatever, but.

00:40:05.640 Yeah, I bet.

00:40:06.100 But I would sort of go in and then it was warm enough to lay on the lounger with that shade covering my eyes designed for viewing social media.

00:40:14.980 I researched the Italian lounge chair and how it has that all over shade.

00:40:20.640 Brilliant.

00:40:21.080 That's like, where the hell has that been?

00:40:23.840 I know.

00:40:24.560 In America?

00:40:24.800 I know.

00:40:25.520 I was blown away.

00:40:26.660 I was deeply moved.

00:40:28.180 Now, what about eating in Rome?

00:40:29.280 Anything to speak of?

00:40:30.560 Did you have a pasta that was exciting?

00:40:33.180 So many.

00:40:33.940 Yeah.

00:40:34.280 Did you have a Bucatini and Amatriciana?

00:40:36.360 Many of them.

00:40:37.900 Because that is one I would return to.

00:40:40.180 I'd be ready for it every night.

00:40:41.540 Amatriciana is maybe my favorite.

00:40:43.360 Yeah.

00:40:43.600 I think it's probably mine too.

00:40:45.640 Also, everything.

00:40:46.500 Oh, here's the main thing.

00:40:47.720 This is a life philosophy thing.

00:40:49.460 I am no longer worrying if I don't have a reservation.

00:40:52.380 I'm going to say this again.

00:40:53.260 I'm no longer worrying if I don't have a reservation.

00:40:56.980 In Rome, specifically?

00:40:58.040 At a restaurant, ever.

00:40:59.620 And I'm going to start putting this to the test

00:41:01.260 because there were a few places they said, 0.98

00:41:02.860 don't even fucking bother 0.97

00:41:04.780 being in the same neighborhood 0.99

00:41:06.200 of that restaurant

00:41:07.280 if you don't have a reservation.

00:41:08.380 Yeah.

00:41:08.820 That's interesting

00:41:09.280 because I got in every time.

00:41:10.880 And one time it waited

00:41:12.140 six minutes.

00:41:13.420 Was it?

00:41:13.800 One time it was a half an hour.

00:41:14.860 Can you name any of the restaurants

00:41:15.900 you went to?

00:41:16.400 Did you go to Rajoli?

00:41:17.780 Yeah, yes, yes.

00:41:19.440 So good.

00:41:20.940 Yeah, I mean,

00:41:21.320 we got into, you know,

00:41:22.540 De Enzo,

00:41:23.380 this place.

00:41:24.180 Oh, Enzo, right.

00:41:25.180 Which I've talked about on Pug.

00:41:26.180 We didn't,

00:41:26.640 we left the line

00:41:27.520 and went to

00:41:28.240 another place.

00:41:30.580 We left the line

00:41:31.040 because it was just like

00:41:31.940 people being like,

00:41:32.460 The line's crazy.

00:41:33.360 I think about LA-ish.

00:41:35.140 Armando Pantheon, El Morro.

00:41:37.520 We got into these places that everyone's like, good luck.

00:41:40.080 I didn't go there, but yeah.

00:41:41.340 Armando Pantheon had the best Cacio e Pepe I've ever had.

00:41:43.880 And Cacio e Pepe has been so overdone in the culture.

00:41:46.680 Yes.

00:41:47.620 So we didn't get it anywhere else except for there.

00:41:49.940 But the point is, I'm going to restaurants now. 0.97

00:41:53.920 Prime restaurant, I'll fucking see you there. 0.98

00:41:56.380 Prime time? 0.99

00:41:57.160 Prime time.

00:41:57.860 Why not try?

00:41:58.740 Well, why not try?

00:41:59.820 Certainly.

00:42:00.900 I mean, you can-

00:42:01.520 Well, what's prime time? 0.75

00:42:02.460 This is the big question because in Italy, I mean, you know, Europeans eat late. 1.00

00:42:06.020 Well, that was my trick.

00:42:07.880 It was served at 9, 9.30 in my home. 0.99

00:42:09.780 Right, but my Italy trick was just fucking show up and fucking care. 0.99

00:42:15.120 Show up at 6.30. 0.99

00:42:16.580 Show up at 6.

00:42:17.280 Yeah, there was a place.

00:42:19.220 There was this one pizza place that we would go to because we stumbled into it starving like our first night.

00:42:24.240 And it was like, wait, this place is supposed to be really good.

00:42:26.540 Why is it empty?

00:42:27.700 And then like we had a thing.

00:42:29.340 And by the time we were done with our meal, the place was hopping and popping.

00:42:32.220 And so it's not like we didn't get any atmosphere.

00:42:34.400 What's funny to me is that the first night we got there,

00:42:37.040 so we landed, it was like the early afternoon, we're delirious.

00:42:39.640 I was like, we can't go to sleep.

00:42:40.700 We just have to try to stay awake until nighttime.

00:42:43.440 We're so hungry.

00:42:44.420 We tried to go to Armando Pantheon,

00:42:46.120 waited for half an hour, turned away.

00:42:47.680 So again, just what I just said, you know,

00:42:49.980 there are some, you do fall.

00:42:51.600 You skin your knee a few times, didn't get in.

00:42:54.980 We walked to this place and I had seen this woman 0.92

00:42:57.920 I follow on Instagram who like,

00:43:00.000 is like, here I am in Rome, whatever.

00:43:01.620 not katie parla i remembered she had food blogger not katie parla but m chili okay this restaurant

00:43:07.360 which is like the place alfredo was invented and by the way i'm not an alfredo person that's not

00:43:14.220 what i reach for it's not what i crave but the restaurant itself looked quite beautiful but i

00:43:19.200 was a little dissuaded by like in the front you know it's like all of a sudden oh alfredo was

00:43:22.800 created here and it's like take a selfie here you know it's about like yeah it's like oh no

00:43:26.960 but I thought well

00:43:28.020 that woman ate here 1.00

00:43:29.820 and like so 0.98

00:43:30.360 it must not be half bad

00:43:31.620 and whatever

00:43:32.120 and so John and I line up

00:43:34.000 worst meal

00:43:35.440 of the entire trip

00:43:36.500 tourist trap beyond

00:43:38.060 so we get there

00:43:38.880 the food wasn't good

00:43:39.900 no

00:43:40.500 I'm furious

00:43:41.060 because like I was finding

00:43:41.980 your like reaction to like

00:43:43.600 the fact that they invented it

00:43:45.480 like

00:43:45.740 rude

00:43:46.340 like

00:43:46.680 don't doubt them

00:43:48.160 just because they've been recognized

00:43:49.520 like

00:43:50.060 you know like

00:43:50.940 Katz's Deli

00:43:52.180 has a picture of

00:43:53.480 when Harry met Sally

00:43:54.400 on the wall

00:43:54.680 no no totally

00:43:55.840 no no

00:43:56.380 i hear you yeah and cats is deli obviously also is a place that is populated by tourists

00:44:01.080 first and foremost oh totally certain hours but i don't think like the meat isn't up to snuff no

00:44:06.560 no no no no totally totally but no so we so the host was quite gracious but then we get in we sit

00:44:11.660 down the waiter's like what do you want you know it's like oh no but then it's so funny to be with

00:44:17.160 because john and i you can imagine we're like we're in italy we made it yeah here we are at

00:44:20.980 restaurant yeah we couldn't admit to the other person yeah like i think i remember kind of being

00:44:26.960 like huh or something and then the alfredo comes and it's just like and then like this table next

00:44:33.000 to us of like people and we're like you know they're all they're like we're from kentucky you

00:44:36.880 know i mean god bless but they're like the root of them talking about jews and i was like i was

00:44:42.240 like uh-oh talking about jews no i heard one of them being like well jews and they the one was

00:44:47.620 like and i'm gonna hold my tongue and i was like oh no are you joking no no you heard i'm gonna

00:44:52.160 hold my tongue yeah i heard that i heard some things i'm gonna hold my tongue i don't know

00:44:56.980 and then like yeah and then one of them said to john you look so european to me what to john

00:45:02.140 and i went what about me and they didn't say anything bit odd how did john react to his you

00:45:08.380 look european thing doesn't it sound a little just kind of like smiled dare i say homophobic

00:45:14.320 probably

00:45:17.020 you know what I mean

00:45:19.560 a chiffon gown

00:45:20.540 yeah

00:45:20.980 yes

00:45:21.500 really just casting them as characters

00:45:25.280 this was actually the sweetest thing in the world

00:45:28.020 that one of them had

00:45:29.080 at this table of the tourists 0.96

00:45:31.880 this woman who was probably in her 70s 0.99

00:45:34.500 unlike you locals 0.99

00:45:35.100 unlike us locals

00:45:36.220 had a huge like paparazzi sized camera

00:45:40.420 like the thing you would take to like a safari

00:45:42.300 like long lens

00:45:44.080 like no huge camera and she took it out to take a picture a close range of the alfredo it was very

00:45:50.340 sweet anyway um it was like very funny but so there there were kind of this is my shout out

00:45:58.960 to the eavesdroppers because this one is you are eavesdropping i don't know i i've got my eye on

00:46:07.700 the ball i'm this is this is interesting i'm trying to think if there's anything here i can

00:46:12.620 kind of um well i have more questions i have more questions for you okay great great great so tell

00:46:17.680 me about the alfredo you said you couldn't admit to each other that the food wasn't like that great

00:46:21.520 but but how was the alfredo i guess it was good alfredo it was good alfredo i don't know alfredo

00:46:27.200 so in the states they'd make it with cream which is like wrong so this is like the actual where

00:46:31.860 it's just butter and cheese which sounds obviously delicious and so it was but everything else was

00:46:36.800 like bad like and i'm saying bad really and so we had a few meals in rome it wasn't until about

00:46:42.760 four days past we were able to be kind of honest with each other and go the meals haven't been

00:46:48.080 exceptional wait all across the multi-nights across the multi-nights we really were like

00:46:53.260 some great so great great items weren't blown away by ragioli for example you must know no no

00:46:58.680 okay no no um a couple things i'm doing a couple things weren't great at ragioli i'm scared to

00:47:05.940 even say yeah all right let's hear it loved it loved it loved it completely the carbonara was

00:47:11.020 great but there's a couple this is a thing yeah a couple of things weren't so but what let's hear

00:47:16.080 it why are you resisting you're usually there was a salad there was a salad that was like

00:47:20.460 just kind of nothing special which is you know worse things have happened there was a side of

00:47:25.440 these peppers which just weren't good they had they had sugar on them yeah like actual sugar

00:47:31.880 it was like strange

00:47:33.020 oh my god

00:47:33.620 I'm actually

00:47:34.440 I feel like I can't

00:47:35.400 blaspheme this place

00:47:36.300 like this

00:47:36.660 because it was so

00:47:37.300 wonderful

00:47:37.860 otherwise

00:47:38.520 whoa

00:47:39.000 and the house

00:47:39.780 made Amaro

00:47:40.380 I brought a bottle

00:47:41.240 of it home

00:47:41.700 to give my mother

00:47:42.360 are you afraid

00:47:43.620 like this is gonna

00:47:44.480 ruin your chances

00:47:45.120 of getting in

00:47:45.780 without a res

00:47:46.500 in the future

00:47:47.020 I don't know

00:47:47.860 what I'm worried about

00:47:48.600 I guess just

00:47:49.140 I would be heartbroken

00:47:50.180 if somehow

00:47:50.860 I got back to him

00:47:52.060 yeah

00:47:52.880 I had an

00:47:55.000 exceptional

00:47:55.480 meal there

00:47:56.700 you know

00:47:57.520 but I did

00:47:58.260 consult a few

00:47:59.540 I think I consulted

00:48:00.800 Katie Parla's

00:48:01.800 blog. Yeah, us too. While

00:48:03.940 sitting there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got our

00:48:05.980 seats. I ordered our spritz. That's

00:48:07.920 fun. And then I quickly look and I

00:48:09.940 ordered some things based on what

00:48:11.740 she had said. Well, I'll say this though. People,

00:48:14.020 again, I don't know Italy well at all.

00:48:16.320 People kind of talk about Rome as

00:48:17.820 not being kind of the spot to eat.

00:48:20.140 I mean. And so.

00:48:21.580 I mean. What? I mean.

00:48:24.320 I should take that back. No,

00:48:26.160 I just, I mean, they might go, if you're really,

00:48:28.160 if you're really a foodie, then you go

00:48:30.160 to blah blah blah of course and by the way we were in the center of tourists it's like yeah maybe by 0.92

00:48:34.960 the fucking trevi fountain you're not going to get a great meal okay look at you see piazza di 0.88

00:48:39.080 navona nothing but the trevi fountain well that one's way isn't it in piazza di navona no i don't 0.99

00:48:43.620 know it doesn't matter okay um like i was like thinking you made it away from you made it in

00:48:49.640 and out of rome without like clocking a single like tourist sounding name of a place okay

00:48:54.520 you saying trevi fountain now i have to know now i have to know if that's the one hold on wait but

00:49:00.100 You mean because Trevi is such a tourist spot?

00:49:02.380 But did you go to the Trevi Fountain?

00:49:03.740 Isn't like Armando there?

00:49:05.140 Yeah.

00:49:06.200 Oh, my God.

00:49:06.920 Yeah.

00:49:07.500 By the Pantheon.

00:49:08.720 Yes.

00:49:09.000 Which was incredible.

00:49:10.460 And by the way, John and I witnessed three engagements in Rome.

00:49:15.780 Three different times.

00:49:16.560 I hate when I make that sound.

00:49:17.700 I got to stop.

00:49:18.260 It's just because I don't want to cackle so loud into the thing.

00:49:20.860 I love it.

00:49:21.200 So instead, I do a voice-less sound.

00:49:23.240 Don't stop.

00:49:23.780 I'd miss it.

00:49:24.160 But I'm not that girl.

00:49:25.620 I would miss it if you stopped.

00:49:26.840 But can you believe that?

00:49:27.800 How many times have you seen people get engaged?

00:49:30.020 yeah I saw three times

00:49:32.900 in a week

00:49:34.080 I find it stressful

00:49:37.300 well it's a very stressful group

00:49:39.020 everyone's looking at you

00:49:39.920 the whole restaurant's erupting

00:49:41.820 that's tough

00:49:43.620 the best and moonstruck

00:49:45.780 that's all I'll say

00:49:46.740 remind me

00:49:48.440 it's like in the opening

00:49:50.620 it's just a very funny

00:49:52.820 sort of get off your knees

00:49:54.480 you'll ruin your suit

00:49:55.340 kind of like let's not make a big deal

00:49:56.940 it's just perfection

00:49:58.280 Everything about that movie is.

00:50:00.360 I love that movie.

00:50:01.380 And yet I don't recall that scene.

00:50:03.020 We'll cover that sometime.

00:50:13.620 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield from The Girlfriends,

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00:53:44.100 The jet lag's starting to of course wear down on me

00:53:51.320 I woke up at 6am so energized

00:53:52.780 Oh, I don't even want to say it

00:53:55.620 I don't even want to say it

00:53:56.800 I'm going to say it

00:53:58.440 Okay, it's funny

00:54:00.320 I'm resisting saying it because it's the thing of like

00:54:03.900 Oh, if I say it, I'm poo

00:54:05.120 It's real?

00:54:05.920 No, or does it like

00:54:06.860 I got to get back in the TM

00:54:08.580 Oh, okay

00:54:09.860 this morning i did tm for the first time oh are you to talk about your meditation practice in that

00:54:16.540 way is like who are you doing it for now or something something like that or just because

00:54:21.100 i really do i don't know it's like but i i thought hey kate because i've been thinking i'm like i

00:54:27.900 gotta i gotta get back like i just i need to i say get back as if i was doing tm religiously for

00:54:34.120 years i you know learned it did the whole thing stayed religious for like two and a half weeks

00:54:40.580 and fell off never to return so this morning i was like hey no pressure just try to do it 20

00:54:45.820 minutes just try i did it well and it really was mornings could be huge because i was like well

00:54:51.780 this is my life now and by the way i'm gonna probably do it when we get off poog i'm gonna

00:54:56.620 do it again wow timidity right after poog they say this is kind of the hour five o'clock six o'clock

00:55:02.300 I joined a friend at Tracy Anderson Studios.

00:55:05.720 Was it Tracy herself?

00:55:07.020 No, no.

00:55:07.700 It's one of the trainers I'm highly familiar with from online streaming.

00:55:11.140 Were you very starstruck?

00:55:12.560 Well, every trainer that I saw there, I was like, shouted out and said, like, I'm a fan.

00:55:17.080 I move with you at home all the time.

00:55:19.220 I move with you.

00:55:19.920 I move with you.

00:55:21.500 Okay.

00:55:22.420 I was like, I've done the breakdowns with you.

00:55:24.020 Like, I was just like, whatever.

00:55:25.080 But the heat of the studio was, it was like the thing where like, oh, I think I'm doing it heated at home. 0.98

00:55:30.600 and then you're in there and you're going oh oh shit and i have fallen off last couple weeks

00:55:38.080 with the wedding and uh of course whatever and so i'm not in tip top and i went in there and i 0.95

00:55:45.940 also got afraid because i'd eaten early the night before and then this class was at like two or three 0.67

00:55:51.940 and i was like fuck like i feel like i need to eat something before but it's getting a little close

00:55:56.780 so i had like these almond chips and i could like 45 minutes before hour before maybe an hour and a 0.98

00:56:03.960 half before anyway and i regretted him i'm in there okay so so it was like hurt your stomach

00:56:09.720 no like nausea like oh shit so heat is on and there are these bands like these resistance bands

00:56:19.160 that are strung across the ceiling and you reach up with like a hook and they pull them down for

00:56:24.060 you and you choose your bands and then you do this so we did this first like opening part with

00:56:28.540 arms and whatever with these bands and I'm really going for it because I really want to prove myself

00:56:32.140 and I'm like I will not be made a fool like I'm you know even though I've never done the bands

00:56:36.720 before the movement is still like Tracy-esque moves and I'm like okay like I can I can do this

00:56:41.600 yeah I'm going for it like full and then we go into the muscular you know sequence whatever

00:56:48.680 the floor sequence and

00:56:50.640 I'm not prepared I have not done the

00:56:52.800 you know learned it that

00:56:54.820 week in the online studio or anything like that

00:56:56.780 so whatever all good

00:56:58.440 and going for it really 0.99

00:57:00.840 hard I'm in time in my fucking life 0.99

00:57:02.580 but this is hot this is hot 0.99

00:57:05.040 and I start to have

00:57:06.860 that feeling where there's

00:57:08.800 that heat in the skin like

00:57:10.720 but inside out heat where you then get

00:57:12.820 chills oh I hate that yeah

00:57:14.860 I had the feeling of like

00:57:16.300 and the slight like might

00:57:18.400 Like I had to, it was exactly a feeling like when I'd come back to the sports season in high school, preseason, like, and they were going to beat you into shape.

00:57:26.300 And you're like, oh no, I was so like hot that I had electrolytes element in my water bottle.

00:57:32.600 I poured some out onto a rag and like wiped my face down with electrolyte water.

00:57:38.300 Yeah. 0.99

00:57:39.120 I was like, and then I was like, fuck, because it's, you do it all on one side and then it's like time to move to the other side. 0.99

00:57:45.260 So you just, it's that thing where you're knowing like, and I start to get worried that 0.99

00:57:49.720 the second side, like I'm literally not going to be able to complete it.

00:57:52.400 I'm like, I'm starting to develop in my head strategies or plans for what I think will

00:57:58.580 be the socially acceptable way to basically like call it quits.

00:58:05.560 Like, you know, I'm like, okay, what is it?

00:58:07.460 Like at one point I like stop and take a few breaths, like literally in child's pose,

00:58:12.120 essentially, you know, that's a classic.

00:58:14.020 Like they're always like in the hot yoga.

00:58:15.420 They're like, just go into child's pose.

00:58:17.080 Yeah.

00:58:17.360 Like, I don't know.

00:58:17.980 It's like, it's like a socially acceptable way in class to like take your few breaths

00:58:21.480 versus just like, like a character in a movie, like Jesus.

00:58:25.520 Like, you know what I mean?

00:58:26.420 Yeah.

00:58:26.880 Yeah.

00:58:27.260 So I'm just like thinking about, but I pushed through.

00:58:29.420 I'm just like, my form is not where it was in the first half.

00:58:32.140 And that's really what the embarrassment is.

00:58:34.240 It's like, the form is not quite there, but I completed it.

00:58:37.940 Wow.

00:58:38.300 So like recovering outside, it was ecstatic.

00:58:44.020 Like sitting on the bench in the waiting room.

00:58:45.840 Yeah.

00:58:46.560 Just chilling out.

00:58:48.480 And it was just like, oh yeah.

00:58:49.820 The feeling of working out that hard, it's just a whole different thing.

00:58:53.640 Wow.

00:58:54.540 And then I just, I just napped for a few hours, like heavy.

00:58:59.160 Okay.

00:59:00.720 I read myself into nap state where I'm reading something and I go, I'm going to meditate on this with my eyes closed.

00:59:08.060 And then I slept and it was just.

00:59:09.520 Right.

00:59:10.000 And then you're gone.

00:59:10.680 I've been eating Goop Kitchen all week

00:59:14.020 I've still never been

00:59:15.680 Well I've never been

00:59:16.920 I think they're a virtual kitchen

00:59:18.520 I don't even know where that food's coming from

00:59:20.020 You order it?

00:59:20.740 But I ordered it into the office

00:59:22.740 Where I've been

00:59:23.380 Whatever working this week

00:59:25.180 You have this whole new life

00:59:26.400 Editing the special

00:59:27.280 Oh yeah of course

00:59:28.160 Wait what are you getting at Goop Kitchen

00:59:30.380 And it's a good

00:59:31.160 It's delicious

00:59:31.720 It must be if you're getting it multiple times

00:59:33.320 I get like the whatever Gwyneth's Cobb

00:59:35.640 Or whatever it is usually

00:59:36.760 Or I get just like chicken salad

00:59:39.300 And then a salad

00:59:40.360 and I put the chicken salad on top of the salad.

00:59:44.100 Someone I was with ordered the yam soup.

00:59:47.620 It's whatever, it's tasty.

00:59:51.360 But now I'm thinking, I'm like, I can't order this.

00:59:55.920 It's not cheap.

00:59:56.800 I was like, I can't do this every day.

00:59:58.460 And so then I went running to our inbox,

01:00:02.420 digging through, I searched the word food storage

01:00:04.580 because I remembered that someone had reached out

01:00:06.780 from a company offering us these food storage and it was a brand porter okay and we at the time

01:00:14.640 looked at it and we're like we're definitely going to send something we never replied to them

01:00:18.220 oh no didn't even reply saying oh my god we're so excited we're sending a list

01:00:21.800 we just discussed it amongst ourselves and then never sent one and so you've been cc'd i put

01:00:28.800 together a list of so now i have these dreams they're beautiful they're beautiful it's like

01:00:32.980 glass ceramic glass you know there's even the plastic one that's you know the finest plastic

01:00:38.140 you can ask for in a plastic and now i'm wondering do i am i doing this whole lifestyle for a week

01:00:44.820 am i gonna am i gonna make a soup and then decant daily wow i mean i've gone through

01:00:51.140 bring it in a bag yeah you could carry home used utensils that's what's really hard it's

01:00:56.640 the carry home. Although you could wash it at the office.

01:01:00.400 God, that's hard. I'm trying to decide if I will get the same pleasure out of my

01:01:04.460 like if it's the most delicious meal ever like brought from home

01:01:08.540 like there's something, there's a dopamine thing going on

01:01:12.320 with ordering food from a restaurant. Oh yeah.

01:01:16.820 Certainly. I'm dropping. I'm like, I'm starting to get

01:01:20.480 the like, I'm also starting to have the quiet like, how could

01:01:24.460 i not have contracted covid on that plane i didn't wear my mask that's where you've been

01:01:28.620 yeah i'm thinking a little tickle in the throat i go huh i had the thing happen on the flight

01:01:34.680 where i fell asleep i heard a child coughing violently oh yeah and i went oh i don't want my

01:01:42.080 mask yeah and then i realized my mask was in my backpack which my tom bin which continues to

01:01:47.020 have changed my life it's in my tom bin which is you know to jump across a sleeping john

01:01:53.080 oh it's up above

01:01:54.360 I just went

01:01:55.680 I'll risk it

01:01:56.360 why wasn't it

01:01:56.920 under your seat

01:01:57.760 you had something else

01:01:58.400 down there

01:01:58.800 I wanted just the free

01:02:00.020 there's almost no space

01:02:00.920 down there

01:02:01.400 because

01:02:02.320 right

01:02:02.940 I just like

01:02:03.840 with the bin

01:02:04.760 with those

01:02:05.320 all those different

01:02:06.180 compartments in the front

01:02:07.180 it's like really easy

01:02:08.340 to like reach in

01:02:09.520 and get like

01:02:10.380 little things out

01:02:11.260 I know

01:02:11.680 I just like

01:02:12.300 I just

01:02:13.200 I needed the leg room

01:02:14.460 yeah

01:02:14.900 no I get it

01:02:15.400 if I get COVID

01:02:16.100 we'll see what happens

01:02:17.740 alright

01:02:18.360 well

01:02:19.140 I'm really in the mood

01:02:20.020 to go get

01:02:20.520 get a Celsius

01:02:21.360 a 5pm Celsius

01:02:23.480 This week in the office, I went hard.

01:02:26.600 Got to find my way off them.

01:02:28.180 I got to find my way.

01:02:28.540 You got to wean off.

01:02:29.600 Well, I heard Tracy Anderson talking about it, but four sips of your coffee drink gives

01:02:33.700 you the positive benefits of caffeine.

01:02:36.000 And then after that, no good.

01:02:38.680 No.

01:02:39.520 Yeah.

01:02:40.100 Because you know, all the like, well, caffeine's good for you for all these reasons.

01:02:42.480 It does all these things, right?

01:02:43.840 Four sips.

01:02:44.260 Four sips kicks that off.

01:02:47.120 I kind of believe it.

01:02:48.520 Oh, me too.

01:02:49.340 Yeah.

01:02:49.860 It kicks it off, I imagine.

01:02:51.440 and then I'm completely devoted

01:02:53.680 to rebalancing my head

01:02:54.940 upon the atlas

01:02:56.540 reading about bones

01:02:58.480 and body mechanics

01:02:59.780 the head must balance

01:03:01.780 oh no

01:03:02.560 I will not live

01:03:03.860 with forward head posture

01:03:04.800 any longer

01:03:05.180 you've been talking about that

01:03:06.220 for a while

01:03:06.560 20 days

01:03:07.720 no devices

01:03:08.600 on my face

01:03:10.220 oh yeah

01:03:10.980 you know I didn't package out

01:03:12.040 so now I'm like

01:03:12.640 I got

01:03:13.240 by the way there's a new zip

01:03:14.180 there is a new zip

01:03:15.160 what?

01:03:15.860 yeah

01:03:16.060 okay

01:03:16.700 the question immediately

01:03:17.940 I ask

01:03:18.700 is

01:03:19.680 I think

01:03:21.440 our promotion of zip on this podcast i think it would be fair oh absolutely to consider asking for

01:03:29.000 a fresh one oh did i did i send you a picture i dropped my zip it cracked open and i saw all of

01:03:34.320 its um now we can't beg for them why because i like i like mishandled it disrespected no i dropped

01:03:42.640 it i traveled with it to new york i dropped it and it cracked open and then i saw all of its like

01:03:47.440 little like

01:03:48.040 computer parts

01:03:48.900 all the elves inside

01:03:49.680 working

01:03:50.060 yeah

01:03:50.360 and it was like

01:03:51.140 really cute to see it

01:03:52.120 like in that way

01:03:52.960 it was really cute

01:03:55.000 to just see like

01:03:55.620 it looked very like

01:03:56.380 Radio Shack

01:03:57.020 on the inside

01:03:57.620 you know like

01:03:58.160 wow

01:03:58.860 alright

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