Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - November 18, 2025


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00:00:00.000 two best friends both alike in dignity nurturing phantoms and courting the muse
00:00:07.260 the hag divines when something must die yes that was poog but this is huge the ego loves
00:00:13.300 to seek but never to find it was berlant and novak the whole time
00:00:18.000 do you straighten your hair are you joking straighten you look something's going on is
00:00:25.640 the angle like you're like or you're angled like the camera's at a crazy angle guess what i pulled
00:00:30.660 out of the mix okay wildly like i found it on the shelf after you know just i just go what what's
00:00:37.860 going on there i don't the app's not even on the phone anymore okay i just grab it i go we'll turn
00:00:42.780 on we'll do anything i slap something on i see some random clear stuff i slap it on i go oh there
00:00:48.260 she goes i go who knows what program it's on but it was working okay she's talking about the zip
00:00:53.880 microcurrent device which i swear by for acne by the way this is this is like working out it's like
00:01:00.160 start working out someone else goes wrong i'm breaking out from like sweating i guess
00:01:04.300 and then maybe not merely washing my face enough i don't know well tell out there i mean are you're
00:01:10.240 wearing spf on the way to the workout i imagine in the car are you sitting down sometimes i don't
00:01:15.520 i go raw if i'm going straight to the workout because well yeah i mean no who does i know
00:01:20.400 because it feels ridiculous that's why you have to wear a full face smock which i do again think
00:01:26.560 we might want to consider what's the deal with uv blockage in the car just the eyes peering out
00:01:31.120 yeah but what's the deal with uv blockage in the car you haven't seen this i've seen it images
00:01:34.700 yeah where it's fully fully faced but like just the eyes peeking out yeah but can you believe i've
00:01:40.460 been to the grove already today grove and back well here we go folks because first of all let's
00:01:45.420 just let's just call it what it is talk about not morning poog and it ain't morning but this is a
00:01:51.880 crazy poog time i've lived six i've lived six and a half years today every day is a freaking lifetime
00:01:59.000 and this one oh and i just mean emotionally mentally it's such a vastly different place to
00:02:06.440 so anyway it's 422 folks it's 422 420 poog and i was going to join jacqueline this morning for
00:02:16.660 a workout but i was feeling a little depleted and my aura ring told me to take it easy today
00:02:21.460 and i thought you know what listen she listen to your body but more importantly listen to your
00:02:25.060 aura ring listen to and no right right right because listen to this yeah so listen to this 1.00
00:02:32.600 just let everyone listen in wearable caper land once again she bitched and she moaned years ago 1.00
00:02:38.140 i know i know now look at her now she's i'm staying home or i told me to stay home 1.00
00:02:43.160 so proud and happy because as you know i my whoop data is and i'm gonna get the two competing
00:02:48.740 i'm gonna get them i know you brought me you brought me plus apollo where's apollo
00:02:53.580 yeah or versus warp oh versus apollo versus what was it neurobot versus um i saw something today i
00:03:00.940 go yeah i'll be i'll be looking for that too okay so i last night was at an event back on mocha
00:03:08.660 i was at an event last night it's actually incredible i i am in episode one of all's fair
00:03:15.460 the kim kardashian ryan murphy show oh hell yeah right okay and i'm there and i see a woman
00:03:23.620 wearing an outfit and i go i like her outfit i go up to her i go excuse me who makes your outfit
00:03:29.040 she goes oh you know my friend collaborated on a line with nordstrom and it actually just dropped 0.99
00:03:35.980 today really so you ran off to nordstrom and i go i want it i get the name little bitch okay 0.99
00:03:43.320 well you did see if i wanted to come but i was i was listening to my i was listening to my whoop 0.89
00:03:49.480 i did text you and deciding that you were missing because i was listening to my whoop deciding that
00:03:53.720 i would go to the workout but you know i'd be mindful of my effort this is my whole new thing
00:03:58.320 okay mindful of my effort during the workout i could still go i can bring it down i could do 70
00:04:03.360 percent right right right yeah you don't have to go full you don't have to go for me it helps
00:04:10.280 because routine the routine of like you know not resisting the going you know the the whole like
00:04:16.140 the routine is putting your pants on and getting a car the routine isn't working out because like
00:04:20.640 a lot of times the rest will happen naturally now i am someone that will drive to studio city and
00:04:24.900 you know decide it ain't happening and you know go to the hardware store so that's turn away if we
00:04:29.920 all have to have a different way to take back sorry sorry hello i go up to her and i'm like
00:04:34.600 you know so i get the information the outfit look it up it's a leopard leopard blazer leopard maxi
00:04:41.840 skirt and oh the skirt retails 99 wait was it the exact one she was wearing yes the skirt retails
00:04:50.480 99 the blazer retails 130 i go i'm gonna freaking get that i call around some malls wait you still
00:04:59.620 haven't told the brand yet are you goes we have it i mean i know it's a nordstrom collab but is
00:05:05.020 there a reason you're not saying it yet um i i will not gay keep i will not gay keep no i will
00:05:10.180 not gay keep this it's sarah walker samantha leopard sarah walker with waif w-a-y-f i have
00:05:18.500 no clue. Does this item look particularly expensive? No, but it's fun. Here, wait,
00:05:24.540 I'm going to send you a picture of myself in the dressing room wearing it. So it was incredible.
00:05:29.520 So I have an ecstatic experience calling Nordstrom's. I call the Americana. They go,
00:05:33.420 we don't have it in store right now, but in this size, but you call, but I just sent you a picture
00:05:39.200 though. Look at the picture of me in the dressing room. And I talked to Nancy at Nordstrom's.
00:05:44.220 Wait, is it denim? I can't tell. What is it?
00:05:46.040 No, no, no. It's fabric.
00:05:47.280 Cool.
00:05:48.080 But Nancy on the phone, it's great.
00:05:50.160 I'm like, oh, I'm going to come in and get it.
00:05:51.780 I go, you know what?
00:05:52.700 I'm driving to the Grove.
00:05:53.920 Middle of the day.
00:05:55.360 Very unusual, kind of rare feeling.
00:05:58.440 Going to the Grove.
00:05:59.780 I'm in there.
00:06:00.620 And here's what's funny.
00:06:02.880 So I talked.
00:06:03.720 I'm like, oh, I'm looking for Nancy.
00:06:05.040 It's Nancy.
00:06:05.400 Hi, Nancy.
00:06:05.880 It's Kate.
00:06:06.220 You set aside that leopard set for me.
00:06:09.080 Oh, yeah.
00:06:09.860 She comes over.
00:06:10.620 She grabs it.
00:06:11.220 And then me trying to force community.
00:06:13.140 I go, you know, coming in to try on in person.
00:06:15.660 I mean, it's like, it's like the olden days and she, it doesn't register.
00:06:19.920 Cause for her, obviously it's just like, this is normal.
00:06:22.560 Right.
00:06:23.840 But I was trying to force it.
00:06:25.540 I go, I go, here I am in person, not ordering it online, coming into the mall in person.
00:06:30.860 Of course she wouldn't, she was unamused.
00:06:33.360 You know, she's like, sure.
00:06:35.180 She, she was so nice.
00:06:36.220 She was a doll, but like that just didn't really register for her, which is fair.
00:06:40.360 And then I started to engage in, oh, do I get this size?
00:06:42.840 Do I get that? 0.83
00:06:43.340 mix and match different size blazer and skirt and guess what Jacqueline I had money on a Nordstrom
00:06:50.260 gift card from my dentist so my dentist also bought me we all know my dentist bought me hugs
00:06:56.740 and then I had leftover and my dentist couldn't historically it was pants no no the pants I never
00:07:02.480 got the pants but now he bought me part of this suit so it's huge and I want micro hugs I want
00:07:10.420 micro uggs the ones that are the tiniest didn't you want them last year for christmas so i got
00:07:14.680 those for christmas last year they go above the ankle and then famously the shoe salesman who
00:07:19.560 sold them to me lives in my neighborhood and we ran into him in the street it was explosive
00:07:23.040 these are micro under the ankle right which are for a house shoe so interesting cape berlin uggs
00:07:31.580 what well it's the deepest part of myself it's what i wore right well it's it's the true it's 0.98
00:07:38.200 the true snob or not snob brat or just sort of well by the way what the fuck what am i a 0.99
00:07:46.680 fucking man why am i recording this podcast at a desk like a fucking cock knock by the way i know 0.99
00:07:53.720 as soon as i lean back i go couch poop by the way because i've been thinking people are tired of 1.00
00:07:59.920 this shit okay this this is art that people need to be reminded with a little bit of selective 0.98
00:08:05.860 okay i am gonna i'm gonna try nothing clears my mind like a new visual i'm gonna create 0.99
00:08:12.520 i have a couple couch pieces that might be floating upstairs we'll see point is you people
00:08:18.000 don't know what what what's coming i'm gonna be in reclining i'm gonna recline i'm gonna do all 0.85
00:08:22.860 sorts of crazy ass shit okay because this is this is interesting but wait wait i want to tell you 0.91
00:08:31.440 the rest of the story what if we were you know i want it but what if we recorded prone 0.99
00:08:35.420 what you know you know you lie prone that's wrong i think that's on your stomach by the way
00:08:45.920 in the middle of the night i was like laughing thinking about i was in the frog position with
00:08:51.040 the one leg up on my stomach one leg up ready to leap frog escape the bed launch out of the bed
00:08:57.420 oh you know i saw this exercise don't don't don't wait hold hold hold this story don't forget it
00:09:02.260 i saw an exercise it was like primal movements and someone's like look it up you know and they're
00:09:08.720 like it almost was that movement and then you flop it was called i think it was called primal
00:09:12.640 it was like you flop and then you switch directions and then you do it again and do it again
00:09:15.920 in helping people with their brains these children etc so we're gonna have to look into that all
00:09:20.420 right go on okay well of course the story it's not too much of a thrill but the point is i was
00:09:26.260 there at the mall i talked to another woman it's just we're having a ball i get this i go go i'm
00:09:31.760 going to new york next week perfect for fall she goes oh it's perfect for fall so glad so glad it
00:09:35.760 worked out i'm i am breezing through the mall feeling just light is light as a feather i go
00:09:42.740 down to the chanel beauty counter i've had my eye on a chanel foundation listeners may recall i'm
00:09:50.220 sure i talked about it on the pod i went to two or three beauty counters in one day none of they
00:09:55.240 were all out of my shade i saunter up today they've got my shade i buy it go by brandy melville
00:10:02.460 have to billy bit out brandy melville bleep now you don't have to really believe it out but got
00:10:08.620 a couple shirts what did i notice since i got there that was different at the grove also what
00:10:14.500 do you do what do you do about this i had a thing happened where someone came up to me and said hi
00:10:21.120 this is at an event
00:10:22.920 the person comes up to me
00:10:23.960 hi
00:10:24.440 I think it's someone they're not
00:10:26.360 and I say to them
00:10:28.140 I'm covering details here
00:10:29.560 I don't really know
00:10:29.980 I go
00:10:30.240 I thought they were the owner
00:10:31.820 of a restaurant that closed
00:10:32.880 and I said
00:10:33.860 oh my god
00:10:34.800 hi
00:10:35.420 I miss
00:10:36.820 name of the restaurant
00:10:38.020 so much
00:10:39.240 and the person looks at me
00:10:41.180 and they do the perfect thing
00:10:42.860 where they don't say anything
00:10:44.040 and they kind of go like
00:10:45.780 well it's really good to see you
00:10:46.960 and they walk away
00:10:47.580 I instantly realize
00:10:48.520 it's the wrong person 0.99
00:10:49.680 damn 0.96
00:10:50.280 what do i do so i go what do i do but did you realize who it was or merely who it was not 0.99
00:10:56.960 so then they walk away i go wait it's not that person still you still don't know them i go it's
00:11:01.120 not that person i go i think it's this and i was correct i was like this is the association i think
00:11:04.840 i know them from here i was correct i later learned so i go what do i do do i go up to them
00:11:09.220 i go hey sorry that so i i do tell me if you think this is a weird fib i don't call it a lie
00:11:15.600 but it's a fib I go up to them and I go maybe that's the name thing I miss blank so much maybe
00:11:22.440 that's the name of a friend that moved away I go the friend died I go let's not go death let's go
00:11:27.240 they moved away I go you mean the lie you're quickly creating yeah so let's just say I don't
00:11:31.000 I'm right right so let's say the restaurant was called I'm jumping I know yeah it's just called
00:11:35.680 Tana okay I go so again I said to the person oh my god hi I miss Tana so much blank stare smile 0.95
00:11:44.220 good to see you they walk away i go fuck so then i go what do i do do i go oh my god i thought so 0.92
00:11:51.100 so then i say to them i thought this would be the bravest thing i know you're not going to give the 0.98
00:11:54.280 name of the restaurant right yeah but although actually the name of the restaurant doesn't
00:11:59.100 fuck anything no does it not no so actually maybe can we work with the real name of the restaurant
00:12:03.800 but not the friend because because it really does affect matters right so if do you want to give the 0.99
00:12:08.700 name of the restaurant okay okay jewel the name of the restaurant exactly so that's where you go
00:12:12.400 because because you were launching in on name of the restaurant that could be a friend who died
00:12:15.680 and i'm going well yeah if the restaurant if the restaurant was called you know pasta pasta pasta
00:12:20.600 okay it could be an issue so so i'm going okay it's jewel so well i miss jewel so much right
00:12:26.600 so so so you're going now now here's my question is jewel in your opinion known enough that this 0.75
00:12:34.160 person knows no well could be could be good fucking let me just play with it for a moment 0.81
00:12:42.460 before we get to what you did i just want to play with it for it could be it actually really 0.87
00:12:45.160 everyone can join in thinking how would they get out of this right so i go i go i miss jewel so
00:12:50.440 much okay and also i have an announcement you could play it off like you said y'all look look
00:12:54.860 at this a person the person does bear a resemblance to like they look similar okay look but look at
00:13:01.960 No, I hear you, but look, Joel.
00:13:03.400 No, no, Joel.
00:13:04.120 Joel.
00:13:04.840 Yeah, yeah.
00:13:05.240 Joel.
00:13:05.740 You know Joel, right?
00:13:07.000 Joel McAbee.
00:13:09.040 So I said, I go, wouldn't it be brave if I went up to this person?
00:13:14.260 I said, you know what?
00:13:15.760 I'm so mortified.
00:13:17.000 I'm so sorry.
00:13:17.880 I cannot place where I know you from.
00:13:20.080 Wouldn't that be so brave?
00:13:21.400 Wouldn't that be so?
00:13:22.980 And there I am too scared.
00:13:23.880 So here's what I do.
00:13:25.080 The person's still kind of near me.
00:13:26.960 So I go up to them.
00:13:27.780 I smile.
00:13:28.240 I go, I'm so sorry.
00:13:29.360 I thought you knew my friend, Jewel.
00:13:31.960 But I realized that I don't think you do know my friend, Jewel, right?
00:13:36.480 But I know exactly who you are, but you don't know my friend, Jewel, right?
00:13:41.180 Waiting for them to tell you. 1.00
00:13:42.240 And then the person, and then the person goes, no, I know you from, and I was correct, says
00:13:46.740 where I know them.
00:13:47.440 And I go, oh my God.
00:13:48.880 And again, in my defense, I haven't seen the person in 10 years.
00:13:52.580 So it's like, it's not egregious.
00:13:55.420 And we were never closer.
00:13:56.540 The point is, was the lie strange?
00:13:58.800 Was it weird that I went up and I said, you don't know my friend Jewel, I made it not.
00:14:03.480 I could have just said, God, you look just like the person who owns this restaurant,
00:14:06.280 but it's not you.
00:14:07.140 But I didn't.
00:14:08.340 Sometimes that you want to protect who you want to protect them from who you thought
00:14:14.280 they were.
00:14:15.100 It's a strange, strange game.
00:14:18.160 But now I'm just wondering how can we know the kind of world?
00:14:22.560 Yeah.
00:14:23.320 Can we know the kind of world that you knew them from?
00:14:26.420 Because this really.
00:14:28.040 Academia.
00:14:28.440 oh my god a fellow student or a teacher teacher so what why are you protecting that this is this
00:14:36.080 is not i don't know why i'm protecting so much there's nothing i would tell this so i would
00:14:41.180 teacher okay comes up to you says hi not my again not my professor just a professor at the department
00:14:47.060 who you had engaged with in some capacity intellectually a little bit but i mean i was
00:14:53.280 never in their class like no but you knew their name no so that seems like they were out of
00:15:00.380 control by even when they said it i was like oh of course no no no no that's not true when they
00:15:05.340 turned away i was like i feel like their name is this the first name i had and i was correct
00:15:10.540 they by the way they weren't offended they were like oh from this and i was like oh my god of
00:15:14.520 course i was like i mean my god i haven't seen you in so long and like i doubled that's been
00:15:18.600 what 10 years they go yeah it's been a long time yeah i just think uh i really i i want to call
00:15:23.920 them up and tell them what i think i think it's outrageous for them to come up and you just give
00:15:27.260 big old hey staring at you not identifying themselves yeah not go it's me blank blank
00:15:31.640 blank from blank blank blank from the blank blank blank from the blank blank school yeah but yeah i
00:15:36.340 mean i think um yeah this is this weird thing where there's this moment where it's so simple
00:15:42.780 and i've said before and i feel like it's so obvious that it's almost imperceptible okay and
00:15:48.100 therefore it's no longer obvious which is if you mistake someone for someone else right
00:15:52.140 if they don't know each other okay these the two people don't know each other it's like there's
00:15:57.880 some level on which i think you are embarrassed in front of the person who owns jewel even though
00:16:03.280 they are not anywhere in this interaction do you know what i'm saying right right right right yeah
00:16:08.180 the person that would feel bad about it truly is not there so you actually have not offended
00:16:14.860 the person you do know by like basically you see a stranger you think they're your friend
00:16:19.680 right tony okay no okay so tony no and then you're like oh god you feel embarrassed as though
00:16:26.840 tony saw it but tony didn't see it because guess who's not there tony right i fear where do i i
00:16:32.400 can't place you or where do i know you from because is because that almost defines like
00:16:37.660 an associate an associated value to the relationship like where do i know you from
00:16:43.300 is like you know me from class like where do I know you from is not you know I'm your second
00:16:47.560 husband right you see what I'm saying I can't place where I know you from your previous home
00:16:53.340 right it's like yeah yeah where I know you from means like I know your face from somewhere
00:16:58.380 not we have a relationship so the fear would be I can't place you and it'd be like
00:17:03.020 we went on a vacation together yeah okay I can't place now now where do I know you from it like
00:17:10.020 you're expecting um well by the way we see each other at the gym i have fear around this yeah
00:17:14.740 exactly i have fear around that's my fear i chronically introduce people who have known
00:17:20.260 each other for years or who i even met one of them through the other person like chronic might
00:17:25.920 be too strong a word that no but that borders on like a humorous character detail of like of the
00:17:32.520 self-obsessed or whatever right like no i know i'm like i'm like oh my god and and there i am
00:17:37.300 trying to be polite i go so and so meets so and so they go yeah we all went to paris together we
00:17:43.040 introduced you yeah we all no no jacqueline i've had it happen we knew each other i've had it
00:17:47.940 happen a couple times where i i go introduce two people and then i catch myself right before i go 1.00
00:17:54.680 you fucking idiot literally you all went to spain like like like in a way that's like an entire 0.98
00:18:00.900 experiences are gone my mom does tell me that my memories she'll be like remember that i'm like i 1.00
00:18:06.620 wasn't there she's like yes you were what's that about trauma response no i mean sure but no it's
00:18:13.400 um the mind and the way that it sits it hovers around the brain is continues to elude so much
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00:19:38.560 What's in there?
00:19:39.200 Have we shown these on the air? These are the Noshinko. So I believe I got, did I get the 1.00
00:19:44.060 cappuccino glass and you got the Cortado glass?
00:19:46.600 Wait, I have an announcement. Are you sure it's Noshinko? Isn't that the name of the
00:19:50.080 hand sanitizer company honey i think you got your brand scrambled scrambled you know what's
00:19:58.580 so funny about that so i actually was congratulating myself earlier for spontaneously
00:20:05.400 pulling no shinko going you do remember things right i mean i know i remember things but wait
00:20:10.820 let me let me so when i search for things it's always through it's always through keywords like
00:20:19.180 when i have to find some like a text message i'll remember an arbitrary like word they use and that's
00:20:24.560 how i get them i'm like remembering the conversation i'm like oh yeah what you said
00:20:28.440 falcon paisley here it comes you know what i mean so like right now i'm gonna say cortado
00:20:33.580 no that's pretty obvious okay point is we were gifted some gorgeous glasses right no yeah
00:20:39.980 no no i i when you when you said i'm like you're absolutely right that's those are those spritzes
00:20:48.000 right we like the hand sanitizer i got false confirmation because i looked at the bottom of
00:20:52.680 the glass where there's something imprinted okay and i go yeah yeah that says nashinko okay
00:20:57.200 the brand folks of the so this is a kate you got yours in emerald i got this blue color it's really
00:21:03.620 pretty you see but is yours cortado size yes oh no you got the amber i got amber amber cortado
00:21:10.860 wait wait wait wait do you want to know what the brand's name yeah please not neutral not neutral
00:21:16.260 Noshinko. What's not neutral? The name of the brand. Not neutral is the name of the Tumblr brand?
00:21:21.460 No. Can't be. Okay, hold on. I really don't think so. I really don't think so. Now, why do you not
00:21:27.640 think so? Let's just play this game. Because I feel like I have the name in my head and that
00:21:32.420 it's one word. Yeah, totally. Of course, you could be completely right. No, but almost like
00:21:37.240 a Noshinko, but not. Yeah. You don't feel two words, right? I feel one word. Maybe even starting
00:21:43.960 with an n yeah yeah i hear that okay and then jacqueline's doing a share screen do you see
00:21:51.660 what it says holy shit jacqueline's right not neutral okay much respect you're also right i 0.51
00:21:56.580 still don't think i still don't think it's right you're also right it's one word 0.68
00:22:00.420 okay it's it's the eavesdroppers are eavesdropping
00:22:07.940 okay but that is the vero gorgeous here's what i got confused vero i think i got confused with
00:22:14.960 vero wow like i thought the brand was vero yeah so we have you have vero vero cortado glass
00:22:20.840 cortado that's my blue that i have you can put coffee in it you can put a little tea in it you
00:22:25.860 can put a little cocktail in there it's really nice wait is this the cortado yeah i did i size
00:22:31.380 up to the like a little pig did i say i think i did i think i said you know what i'm really making
00:22:36.740 something more approximate of a cappuccino here at home i think i did yeah do you like my blue i 0.58
00:22:43.660 want you to admire my blue i do then i'm showing then i'm showing and this is going somewhere i
00:22:48.720 have a reason for bringing this look at that amber look at that central amber okay that's what i got
00:22:53.500 now oh even the clear is pretty clear is beautiful the gray is beautiful wait i'm worried that it's
00:23:00.000 not it is it is my voice is lulling them into glory okay because something's headed i'm headed
00:23:04.640 somewhere with this which is i am envisioning maybe i'll see if i can reach out in time for
00:23:11.080 the holidays i'm imagining an etched an etched vero i'm imagining an etched vero glass in one
00:23:18.280 of these colors and i'm imagining that it says something special on it because i'm working on
00:23:22.700 a few holiday collabs last minute of course anyway wouldn't it be glorious you know what i you know
00:23:27.660 what i love what champagne really still i've got i've gotten back into champagne ordering at a bar
00:23:36.960 last night i go let's have champagne what no i just i just noticed i'm not not neutral because
00:23:42.520 i'm fantasizing about a collab i just noticed some mugs that could be morning that could just
00:23:48.840 be sacred morning it could be morning poo kind of mug i'm just i'm just envisioning um holidays
00:23:55.840 are coming this is this is a good oh the holidays are coming up really fast really fast they literally
00:24:02.060 produce custom drinkware for coffee shops restaurants and hotels that's crazy that's
00:24:06.660 crazy jack so i'll look at they do do the etching i didn't dream it oh imagine that imagine by the
00:24:13.500 way that's like sacred geometry and it says sacred mornings or something i completely agree i think
00:24:18.540 it's great all right i'll be reaching out let's do it should we should we sprint right now here
00:24:23.480 let me let me get rid of this should we sprint right now to cross the small train i know i mean
00:24:29.040 by the way let's by the way this is what we're going to talk about
00:24:31.780 holidays what does it mean to you kate is it have anything to do with curling up under a
00:24:43.300 wonderful throw from cozy earth because sure does for me you want to know why i ordered one
00:24:49.980 yeah the bubble throw have you done it yet because as partners we get a special deal
00:24:55.960 and we're going to share it with our listeners they look so cute the bubble cuddle blanket
00:25:00.160 would you like to know it is it's got this this this i mean it's it's exactly what it sounds like
00:25:05.400 and it's delicious right now it's waiting for me downstairs i actually fold it for the couch
00:25:10.200 for the bed i throw it over i fold it and throw it over because i think it looks just really
00:25:13.940 pretty. It's plush. It's really luscious. I have it in the pale gray. It's very luxurious.
00:25:21.020 I highly encourage the bubble cuddle as a gift. I was going to say the bamboo pajama set
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00:26:13.540 with cozy earth we did it we went to gracias madre double date when i tell you this is what's
00:26:23.800 really cute to me all four of us yes each couple two couples four people yes everyone ordered the
00:26:31.320 same entree guys oh yeah that is so cute so naomi and i go and the car ride over because naomi had
00:26:38.300 previously got in the Oaxaca bowl and I go I kind of want to experience your bowl because I only got
00:26:42.200 a couple bites last time I'm really hungry it was great so I go in going I'm going Oaxaca we're
00:26:47.220 each going Oaxaca suddenly that's so funny I'm gonna get Oaxaca next thing I know Chris I'll do
00:26:52.760 Oaxaca too because what am I not gonna do it because we on the way there we're thinking look
00:26:57.280 we've got last time we were there I think we got we're with a group once we were we got tacos you
00:27:01.760 know the whole kind of thing I was thinking I was gonna get one of the bowls and the ones I
00:27:05.520 remember to my mom was like madre or something and another one suddenly the oaxaca bowl comes
00:27:10.920 into play as a consideration so it was both ordering what i had we had planned to order
00:27:15.600 bowls i just want to let you know okay with a sense with a spirit of flexibility but with a
00:27:21.440 little pizzazz of wait what's the oaxaca bowl yeah sorry i just was imagining i just cut to me
00:27:28.200 defending this podcast as art to a man okay and i go like you don't you don't understand right
00:27:36.100 there when i'm sort of going oaxaca bowl i'm working them i'm working their vibrations like
00:27:42.660 i'm i'm doing i'm moving their ears through an experience i'm going i'm going and then that's
00:27:47.180 when i decided oaxaca bowl it's it's the music of the everyday
00:27:51.220 no i actually feel by the way me right now recline doing poog talking about oaxaca bowl
00:28:00.460 talking i feel i don't know what this feeling is it's bliss it's it's i feel so gratitude i just
00:28:10.440 feel gratitude for poog and for the eavesdroppers i know i know but listen listen listen we're
00:28:15.380 getting to it or you're almost jaclyn i have it i have it oh they won't do it they won't do it
00:28:20.440 There's no way. 0.98
00:28:21.140 I go, we do a POOG pop-up at Gracias Madre, take over the whole patio. 0.99
00:28:25.500 For 48K? 0.96
00:28:25.740 For 48K, whatever.
00:28:26.540 For 48K.
00:28:27.560 So here's a – everyone needs to know this.
00:28:29.260 Everyone needs to know this.
00:28:30.300 Remember Patio Only?
00:28:31.360 You think you get it cheaper?
00:28:32.440 No, no.
00:28:32.700 So you'll recall on a previous episode, Jacqueline and I had the plan to go to Gracias Madre.
00:28:39.500 It was raining in LA.
00:28:40.740 I repeat, it was raining in LA.
00:28:42.260 And I said – and we had all suggested – our minds went there.
00:28:46.900 do we freaking reschedule because gracias madre is about the patio the eavesdropper wondered they
00:28:52.720 wondered the same thing are they gonna go do they reschedule for the patio we go no of course not
00:28:58.040 we gotta just do it the rain lets up everyone so i'm driving there i call the restaurant hi
00:29:04.420 i have a reservation in 30 minutes for kate berlant under four i was hoping it might be
00:29:09.740 possible to sit at the outdoor at the table by the outdoor fireplace the round table he says
00:29:16.660 we are not able to hold tables however i will do my best and i kind of went okay game meets game
00:29:23.980 oh my god you're making me work for it you're playing hard to get and that's fine i step on
00:29:28.520 the pedal there's actually a good impression of of the um of that guy because really i spoke to
00:29:34.200 him when i arrived the the host for the night because i was like it's kind of sticky almost
00:29:39.880 right because i was like i was like hi i was like we're here um you know yeah what happened i never
00:29:45.740 heard i know we're gonna i'm gonna be joining a group like you know like hi we're here the
00:29:49.580 reservations under they're not here yet the reservations for under beland and she told me
00:29:54.620 this is actually hysterical because actually in a way it was a false report and he knew it okay
00:29:59.860 i'm realizing without you told me like something like oh no wait wait wait sorry now we got to go
00:30:06.460 to the books okay okay because you said you said you go make sure when you get there you go the
00:30:12.240 reservations under four i think you said something like i reserved the four top by the fire fireplace
00:30:19.440 right yeah and i go i think and and so i interpreted it as i thought we were just we had decided the
00:30:25.440 morning fuck it it's fine we're gonna eat inside and and i made peace with that okay and and chris 0.56
00:30:32.540 and i go in and you know and whatever i've got the text give it to me give it to me and then i'll 0.97
00:30:37.540 tell you what happened okay i this is so cute the text above because i was like oh my god i can't
00:30:44.760 wait for dinner i'm so hungry and you said already scared he said already scared it's going to be
00:30:50.640 over too soon but chris and you could probably implement standing res penciled yeah and then
00:30:57.360 you got penciled in after like like to be like you know of course free to free to uh chris could
00:31:03.000 manage that like i would i would now look i'm trying to get into reclining too no i'm trying
00:31:08.060 to recline at the desk okay so then i said i called them this is 30 minutes before the reservation
00:31:13.420 i called them and requested the round table by the fireplace if you get there before us it's
00:31:17.920 under my name you say this is you know 20 minutes later so i go in and i say hi um my friend has
00:31:26.700 the reservations for four under beland my friend says she has reserved a table by a fireplace yet
00:31:33.300 i see no indoor fireplace because i was so thinking that this was all still indoor you
00:31:39.080 see what i'm saying yeah yeah of course you were confused understand the music of the mundane
00:31:43.500 false report what was it what was the false report oh sorry so i go i go she was pretty
00:31:48.300 certain about how she was pretty certain like make sure that i checked like like i'm basically
00:31:53.300 like she was pretty pretty serious about having reserved that um my fireplace table yeah yeah
00:31:59.220 when in fact like he had and he kind of chuckled like like i almost was doing a like he's chuckled
00:32:04.760 you know i almost i was almost doing like a like like and believe me she's gonna go nuts if we
00:32:11.140 don't get that fireplace like like we all know it's very it's very important if you get the
00:32:15.840 fire but like i i forget i i was trying to make a crack to not like sound like knowing nothing
00:32:21.100 from your end just just kind of like just from his perspective hearing it i have to wonder what
00:32:26.480 did he think well we're gonna interview him he'll be our first guest but no no no there's no sorry
00:32:31.880 but the point is love the table love the meal we had an absolute blast and then um i didn't share
00:32:38.860 this with the group but there was a nearby table for top i think it was someone's birthday because
00:32:43.400 they were very dressed up and she said in a way that i thought was so cute she'd never been there
00:32:47.420 before and i heard her say i love it here god this is so beautiful ain't that the truth and i just
00:32:53.340 thought aren't we lucky to be alive and to take in you know we can be jaded we can be jaded
00:32:59.700 take in the patio get the patio table take in the patio when you can oh my god i mean and we wrote
00:33:06.520 a prayer we all wrote a prayer anywhere okay it's called if you can manage al fresco you'd manage
00:33:14.120 gel fresco oh you go al fresco but but me going we wrote a prayer we wrote a prayer realizing
00:33:19.560 people don't know what that means at grassy as you exit you can light a candle no we talked about
00:33:23.540 this right there's an altar with candles and it's glorious and a prayer box and i know but some
00:33:27.620 people don't know no no i'm saying a previous thing we had discussed it and you said you'd
00:33:32.500 never done it like that you had kind of been like like oh that's like weird or whatever i do it every
00:33:36.400 time okay and it felt weird when i was there because it was packed and it just felt no sure
00:33:41.580 sure it was like horrible like west hollywood music like blaring that's where you really need
00:33:46.540 god with much respect to we how okay that's where you so see i love it okay and and i love
00:33:55.080 because really i feel do i not feel closest to god right after dinner i mean let's get real
00:33:59.840 floating out right it's like it's one of the most i mean that is ecstasy and a different energy of
00:34:08.140 ecstasy headed in you know anticipation whatever but but we go out and i start and we start we light
00:34:14.280 it we light the candle oh my god anyway but we sat at a low table because it was sort of a lounge
00:34:22.980 table with a slight recline to the seating almost a kind of patio right it was interesting and i
00:34:29.320 noted and you appreciate it and i never forget when you appreciate something i say
00:34:33.520 that it kind of gave us a privacy by virtue of being at a different level
00:34:41.300 literally to be above altitudinous and altitudinous privacy was experienced to be to be clear the
00:34:50.740 table folks is lower it's which which creates its own some people go i don't like that because you
00:34:56.340 kind of have to lean it's not the thing like you're a baby you're a baby in your high chair
00:35:00.280 and the table's right there collecting crumbs that fall.
00:35:03.840 You have to be a little more strategic
00:35:05.740 as you're getting the bites in
00:35:07.120 because you're passing it over your lap a little bit.
00:35:09.580 Sometimes you don't want that.
00:35:11.080 Is the actual chair,
00:35:12.320 I mean, is it fully in mild Trachtenberg?
00:35:15.860 Yes.
00:35:16.500 No, no, because...
00:35:18.260 Do you know what that is?
00:35:18.940 I'll tell you about that after.
00:35:20.060 You'll love it.
00:35:21.260 Mild Trachtenberg, I think it's called. 0.75
00:35:23.500 Or Trendleburg.
00:35:24.240 Wait, I don't know what that is.
00:35:26.580 What is that?
00:35:27.260 Sleeping in a trundle bed?
00:35:28.880 No, sleeping in a, sleeping, sleeping with your, okay, you put like a brick under the
00:35:34.520 foot of your bed.
00:35:36.040 Yeah.
00:35:36.820 The feet of your bed and lift it up so that blood is like rushing towards your head while
00:35:41.260 you're sleeping.
00:35:42.180 It's like recommended as like a health trick for some, but check with a doctor.
00:35:46.800 Check with a doctor always. 0.98
00:35:48.360 Mild, I don't know, Trendleburg.
00:35:50.380 It was a Dr. Greger mentioned.
00:35:51.860 Go on, go on, go on.
00:35:52.820 Point is.
00:35:53.200 Well, no, no, that's really just about it.
00:35:55.800 No, but I was just remembering that.
00:35:56.960 I don't know, but did the seat actually,
00:35:59.360 was it such a reclining patio chair
00:36:01.360 that not just the back,
00:36:02.940 but the actual seat itself,
00:36:04.820 was it on an incline?
00:36:06.340 I think it might've been.
00:36:08.040 This is, by the way,
00:36:09.480 I actually am.
00:36:10.800 The micro details,
00:36:12.120 this episode is the art of the,
00:36:14.540 what are you saying?
00:36:15.340 The art of the mundane?
00:36:16.080 No, this is,
00:36:17.180 because this is,
00:36:18.180 because this is the music,
00:36:21.140 the musicality.
00:36:22.040 The chair structure.
00:36:22.840 The chair structure of a dinner
00:36:24.380 that they were not at.
00:36:26.080 This is,
00:36:26.480 no and and without but i feel in me and we're bearing the lead we're bearing the lead on the
00:36:34.720 dinner jacqueline so we're sitting there we're having not talking about lounging while lounging
00:36:40.000 are we see we are look at us look at us we've see once again lunged the visual art look how i've
00:36:46.760 i've mirrored you now yeah i'm leaning to the side with my head yeah a series of diagonals okay go on
00:36:52.460 wait, what were you saying? Sorry. So we're getting there. We're sitting down and we notice
00:36:57.580 there's a long table, two long tables. Some kind of event must be happening. And we go,
00:37:03.440 oh, there's some event. And first we go, oh, is this birthday? Baby shower? It's a bunch of broads,
00:37:08.200 a couple of gay guys. We're going, what is this? And gift bags. Soon a real crowd forms. Soon we 1.00
00:37:15.080 go. And there's almost a little bit of a, and I suggested we get a discount because they were so
00:37:19.500 loud oh yeah he goes i think we could uh i think a round of drinks on the restaurant makes sense 0.89
00:37:25.560 for this kind of because i go and we're adding atmosphere it's making these fuckos feel like 0.64
00:37:29.360 they're in a restaurant not just some heinous yeah place they've rented or something so then 0.63
00:37:33.760 we start to go oh the gift bags what is this we start to realize this is a beauty influencer event
00:37:40.260 or something and we can't believe it we're going how could it be on the night that we're there
00:37:45.620 it's it's shocking well we go oh my god we go we start going um what did you say they don't even
00:37:52.040 know like they don't know and we weren't invited like and sure weren't none of them seem to know
00:38:01.640 who we are but also it feels very strange none of them knew who definitely one woman looks over
00:38:08.520 her shoulder a couple times there was one who looked a couple times and just thank you okay
00:38:12.940 thank you to her it's not not to be cruel but it was on a top shelf event something was weird
00:38:18.180 thing was off everyone's and then everyone goes around the table stands up hi i'm blank i'm from
00:38:23.700 blank and i blank blank blank while we strained here while pretending to mime still having
00:38:28.800 conversations among ourselves that's always hard it's always hard when you're straining to hear
00:38:32.680 something and you realize that no matter how hard you focus you're just not gonna be able to hear it
00:38:37.240 like like i thought if i quieted the mind yeah no no right my mind you rush to certainty you'd go
00:38:44.360 i can't i'm frustrated so i would believe i would be if the two of us were doing this i'd be like
00:38:48.460 okay don't doubt your ears like the subconscious it picks up all sorts of things i would insist
00:38:52.600 for longer yeah i couldn't really catch much but yeah i think the fantasy was what someone's gonna
00:39:00.760 see us someone else is gonna whisper there's gonna be a whisper campaign and you know what
00:39:06.520 are the odds the and they go oh my god they go they go the poo coasts are here the poo coasts
00:39:11.740 are here i mean we we're celebrating we're celebrating ourselves meanwhile when our
00:39:17.900 leaders are here we would have invited them but we didn't know how about this we never would have
00:39:25.720 invited them because we would never think that they would attend our no that's yeah no exactly
00:39:30.340 that's what you're trying to say yeah yeah yeah like you know i don't know it felt really meaningful
00:39:34.980 the time and you know like so many things maybe this is a good time to talk about because because
00:39:41.420 it keeps popping up my desire for for the for this is a real christmas let me see if we can pull it
00:39:47.700 up is it eight sleep or sleep eight i know we gotta get that right this is a begging eight sleep
00:39:52.800 and when you go there what is it pod five by the way pod five core what oh my god look look quick
00:40:00.680 look at it ate sleep do you see how it came down she's sharing her screen folks okay do you see how
00:40:06.280 it she cannot help it rests down on the bed so you can have your own mattress because it really
00:40:11.760 doesn't it if you just saw that you'd think it was an entire system and you need a new mattress
00:40:15.720 no yeah that's the thing about warranty 30 30 night risk trial the pod for previous gen tech
00:40:22.340 do you want should we for fun just go down a get a little get a little dope me on a product you
00:40:26.660 want to hear what this thing does yeah how the pod works okay sleep the way you were meant to
00:40:32.500 well imagine that shop the pod your whole bed on autopilot what could that mean from the cover that
00:40:40.180 adapts to your body to the blanket and pillow cover that extend comfort head to toe all right
00:40:46.740 all right let's get to the let's get to this machine that rests at the side of the bed and
00:40:50.420 see what that does 86 degrees on her side 67 on his side that's crazy whoa meaning that it's
00:40:59.380 adjusting the temperature based on the body on two different sides yeah cooling and warming for two
00:41:05.440 zones why would you want it to warm if your body's too cold yeah i guess fascinating okay i mean
00:41:13.300 maybe you're someone that clinically proven to increase deep sleep it's a very good point cools
00:41:19.220 to 55 warms to 110. Jesus. Adapts as you sleep based on heart rate and more. That's pretty
00:41:27.740 interesting. Now, all I care about is preferred by nine. Oh my God. Preferred by nine out of 10
00:41:33.600 extreme temperature sleepers. Extreme temperature sleepers. Now, don't you get like another 10 years
00:41:40.260 added on to your longevity estimate if you sleep at 55 degrees or something? You've seen that,
00:41:45.920 stop you've never seen that that seems extra cold 55 seems freezing are you sleeping naked
00:41:51.760 these are my i ordered these these are my blanks do you see them these are my blank puffs oh okay
00:41:58.300 you're gonna soak them with product i'm gonna soak them with product i'm thinking of doing it
00:42:02.100 with where'd it go with time revolution the first essence enriched the classic you're gonna pour it
00:42:09.380 in and then for travel i'm scared take it do i do i dare you know i'm scared what if what if it
00:42:15.640 doesn't react well with these natural cotton rounds or something what if it's so you don't
00:42:19.540 worry about soaking up too much product wasting product well i worry about all sorts of things
00:42:23.940 you know but i like to challenge those oh that reminds me actually wait do i have my phone with
00:42:29.020 me because there is something i recorded to share with you but yeah no i'm not so this one's too
00:42:33.020 thick i can feel it i don't know i bought these like a year ago with big plans and and i haven't
00:42:38.660 yet done you know what i think i need to do you know what i think the move is i think i do it
00:42:43.400 with something that's cheap, but good. So it would be like one of these really cheap natural
00:42:49.420 essences, right? That's the thing I should do it with this. Get a bulk, you know what I mean?
00:42:56.960 Like a vat of rose water. Yeah. And then do that. And then these will be my little rose water
00:43:03.540 rounds. But I was thinking, you know, you're saying you're breaking out while working out.
00:43:07.640 doesn't it seem like so go clean right you go clean i go clean but you're not washing your
00:43:14.860 face in the morning right like water only in the morning right so maybe that's what i need to do
00:43:20.720 you're saying use cleanser in the morning well maybe you actually should yeah maybe you should 0.98
00:43:24.480 cleanse before your workout you're a fucking genius and then if you well actually you start 0.93
00:43:30.800 with that see how that does you then i would also make sure you're actually washing your face after 0.98
00:43:35.320 not just like splashing it even if you're not going to shower like at the studio or something
00:43:40.280 yeah you know so bring your cleanser like me you know i have my bag of goodies
00:43:44.340 king of the locker room they call me now that's a joke um but i was just imagining if you had
00:43:52.120 a couple of these in class with you during the class you had your own drenched yeah halfway
00:43:58.480 through the class wipe wipe wipe well i was thinking about taking hypochlorious maybe that
00:44:02.040 that would be the next level i think an easier level is hypochlorous spray just having it but
00:44:08.480 then you're sort of you're spraying it it's mixing with the sweat there's no wiping it away
00:44:12.160 off happening i'm just imagining oh that's interesting but i think sweating sweating off
00:44:18.600 of a truly like of a cleansed face pre-workout that that does seem like it could do something
00:44:23.360 that seems good also i think a big part of it is hair product try that any hair product let's just
00:44:28.700 say right because it's like if it's on the hairline but it's not on this side it's not on
00:44:33.160 the hairline oh where is it oh chin jaw people are gonna go well that's hormonal kate i don't
00:44:40.840 know babe okay listen i have to go it's no easy way to say it this could be a real re-listener
00:44:48.240 for some in the way that i'm about to start watching masters of the air for a second time
00:44:52.980 no that's very different what's that it's like a spielberg um world war ii um air force pilot
00:45:00.320 like a 12-part drama and it's like i think it's gonna be oh it's gonna be a comfort watch
00:45:06.520 i can't wait to tell you more about it all right i love you all right love you bye love you
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