Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - Anything Can Lead to Anything

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00:00:23.240 Two best friends both alike in dignity. 0.93

00:00:25.940 Nurturing phantoms and courting the muse. 0.84

00:00:28.080 the hag divines when something must die yes that was poog but this is huge the ego loves to seek

00:00:34.600 but never to find it was berlant and novak the whole time

00:00:38.800 hi eavesdropper literally we just were having like wonderful conversation we're like we should

00:00:46.560 hit record and of course now now the pressure's on but but i was telling jacqueline like wait you 0.93

00:00:51.820 haven't watched jiminy glick the martin short it's so fucking some of the funniest shit of all time 0.57

00:00:56.100 And I, a couple of times on stage, I'm like, wait, am I doing Jiminy Glick, like falling into that, like, like the voice. 0.82

00:01:02.040 And because I was saying that a voice has emerged for me and it feels like it's been really specific to the primal nature of being on stage at Fringe Festival in Scotland.

00:01:12.040 OK, you're down there and it's like and you're almost at the end.

00:01:15.660 There's something and you're like, OK, and so like there's almost a reaching for archetypal energies.

00:01:21.580 Right. You might have a more nuanced paintbrush in another, you know, but I'm like, ah, like.

00:01:26.100 yeah so i don't know it's a murder it's kind of like who was it there were a couple cats i met

00:01:30.780 once okay actual cats yes okay or like jazz cats yeah yeah yeah and i was like

00:01:37.360 and they launched for me it was my friend paul's animals they launched for me um

00:01:43.440 oh which was not how i ever talked to animals okay going oh it was like a very specific like

00:01:50.580 Oh, hi, Candy

00:01:52.660 Okay, and it was like opening up

00:01:55.860 You know, hearing a new note, right?

00:01:58.020 It was like, suddenly I was like

00:01:59.900 Oh, that's new, and that's, you know, brought on by them

00:02:02.260 It's very interesting

00:02:03.080 But anyway, so that's been present for me

00:02:07.160 Let's see what else 1.00

00:02:07.880 I've met a lot of hags here 1.00

00:02:10.000 I've met a lot of hags 0.68

00:02:10.940 And you're almost at the end

00:02:11.940 Yeah, and now I consider whether

00:02:14.040 I return to

00:02:16.600 States or not

00:02:18.660 because we have international tags everywhere like me azerbaijan no you got that gig no i was

00:02:29.260 making a joke like that that was you and you've been paid to do it oh my god can you believe no

00:02:33.440 i was saying that that there's azerbaijan i for some reason i have a block to pronouncing it

00:02:38.420 i'm gonna link it to pook there are these videos on youtube i think if you just search that and

00:02:42.620 say like farm it'll come up the most jacqueline like beautiful euphoric no narration no these

00:02:50.800 videos of this couple that have this like unbelievable beautiful farm and it's just them

00:02:54.280 like tending to their farm and there's kittens what crawling around and like the animals and 0.97

00:02:58.200 like i watched this woman she has these melons i fell asleep to this last night on the couch

00:03:02.900 no and i swear to god it like it's deeply healing to watch this woman she watermelons beautiful the

00:03:09.680 most beautiful watermelons you've ever seen she's hacking them up and you watch her make this process

00:03:13.740 where she's you know she methodically hacks them all up she's cubing them you're like what's she 0.95

00:03:18.080 doing and then she with her hands goes in she's making juice with her hands and this big thing 1.00

00:03:22.700 you know watermelon juice yep so it becomes pure watermelon juice then her and her like husband

00:03:27.720 you see them lugging it over to this outdoor fire pit they have there and they're cooking it over

00:03:32.700 you're going what's going on they're cooking the watermelon juice and then after a couple hours

00:03:36.700 and then it'll say like in text like three hours later or something that then it reduces all the

00:03:41.060 waters out so it's just the pure and you're like the color of it you're like what does that taste

00:03:44.520 like like the purest mountain watermelon and then you go what comes next then they pour it into

00:03:49.980 these different pans and then they're leaving it out in this beautiful garden for three days

00:03:54.500 it becomes this like you're like oh it's like watermelon jelly roll like dried watermelon

00:03:59.160 candy she peels it off you're going what's next coconut shavings how did you find all over it

00:04:04.880 i don't even i mean i guess no the internet do you see it do you see it i'm hunting now i wrote

00:04:10.120 i have to find john i wrote farm life kittens watermelon okay yeah yeah i mean farm youtube

00:04:17.360 like and i i said to nami because we watched it once i found it i found it once before and i was

00:04:21.820 like i need to watch this roscoe b with six subscribers no i think it's this person with

00:04:27.780 7.85 million okay this is it honey everyone okay this is it sweetheart all right send it over

00:04:34.520 listen to some of these wild onion preservation wild onion bread like you know this is this is it

00:04:42.780 this by the way because in the uk they ask or the brits preserving vegetables they go wait

00:04:48.840 country life vlog yep this is insane kate i mean this is why what yeah no i've never seen a youtube

00:04:56.120 channel like this jacqueline it is it is the most healing this is all we should be watching and i

00:05:01.880 and it happened to me i go marinating green beans village style all right hold on yeah

00:05:06.740 and jacqueline i said i was like we live the wrong life like obviously i don't actually think that

00:05:14.400 whatever but i was like i am so broken i know all my pain stems from not making watermelon jerky

00:05:20.900 out in the sunlight like this is and just you have to watch it you'll be so moved it's a very

00:05:27.380 interesting thing because what is it in the human that can instantly see here's the watermelon okay

00:05:32.320 instantly see what's wrong with its life and yet still feel that meaning meaning is only

00:05:38.940 like that it would be a exit from meaning to abandon one's life for one that you know i'm

00:05:46.080 saying we're like we're determined to make meaning within the context already i'm looking at this

00:05:52.500 garden i'm looking at those i sent you the watermelon pink you have to watch it before bed

00:05:56.240 Jacqueline if you watch the watermelon the day before bed I drifted off to sleep pure peace

00:06:02.280 and then I go I'm falling asleep I need to relocate to the bedroom right I go the piece of

00:06:07.820 the video because you know when you fall asleep and you go I don't want to wash my face I don't

00:06:11.660 want to I floated into a full like six-step face care routine like without even you were able to

00:06:18.280 I was able to completely do it care for the self I cared for the self I get into bed I call into

00:06:24.280 the next room to Naomi I'm awake they come in we start to watch the first episode of the biggest

00:06:28.860 loser which is amazing but the beauty and the transcendence of the Azerbaijan video

00:06:35.320 like canceled out any of the poison of the biggest loser documentary I drifted into sleep had really 0.87

00:06:41.500 great dreams woke up worked on my dreams for the first time in months Jacqueline promise me you'll

00:06:46.180 watch the watermelon video before you go to bed or tonight you just have to I'm looking at I'm

00:06:50.200 scrubbing through i'm seeing it being poured traditional wild cherry plum preservation

00:06:55.000 this is what the internet can give us we don't need it to give us i have a question for you

00:07:00.440 no well you know what see this is very interesting wait i just want to see i'm wondering if chris

00:07:04.180 could possibly pass this along because chris it's like you were served that right i don't know how

00:07:10.320 he's gotten to this but he has found his way into sort of he watches these videos about the coldest

00:07:15.120 places on earth okay whoa and these these families okay like i watched a little bit of one where like

00:07:21.880 i'm whispering because i was like thinking it would be a good christmas gift okay because it's

00:07:26.240 like it's like this family it's like so fucking cold okay like the warmest like in like siberia 0.96

00:07:31.780 or whatever like the warmest fucking time of the year like they are in nine layers of wool up to 0.97

00:07:37.380 you know their eyeballs right yeah and it's like it but it's like warm enough for them to go and 0.79

00:07:41.420 like you know make water out of the ice whatever right it's like insane yeah and then this this

00:07:46.460 guy he's like the father it's like you know he makes these knives right and they're like you

00:07:51.400 know surprise surprise best in the world right yeah yeah you know like taught by his father

00:07:56.600 whatever like slow you know it's it's and so of course me okay like a capitalist yeah hog right

00:08:04.580 going well christmas is almost here yeah yeah totally i'm going does he deliver okay yeah

00:08:09.380 i'm going does he do two-day shipping right yeah yeah i'm gonna get chris one of these knives or

00:08:16.160 whatever right but you watch this and you go we have a problem here okay we have a real problem

00:08:22.960 where we are able to see what works okay for humans and yet we are unable to go so got it

00:08:29.920 okay i see yep we um we need to uh care for each other we need to um change a basic uh sense of

00:08:36.480 you know uh utility and connection to the earth blah blah and we know it and yet we're almost

00:08:42.440 like uh oh we are the neighbors i continue to be i continue to be transformed by neighbor

00:08:50.400 connection so listen to this by the way also this is transformative look at this fresh basil i got

00:08:55.020 the ojai farmer's market that i have as a flower arrangement in my home flowering basil the finest

00:09:01.120 smell in the world this almost brought me to tears so as you know i talked about the amazing

00:09:05.200 community i'm experiencing in my neighborhood how the sweet man invited us in to look at the kittens

00:09:09.380 right oh yeah last night i'm walking run into a neighbor he goes oh you know the neighbors that

00:09:15.280 live there they bake bread and stuff out of their home it's a couple lesbian couple okay

00:09:22.000 older he goes yeah yeah i'll send you the menu i got the menu what welcome to your neighborhood

00:09:28.900 bakery orders on these days what thanks for keeping it cozy and local sourdough bread

00:09:34.680 offering signature flavors full small medium large full different kinds menu yep my god

00:09:42.520 herb legend a savory fusion of thyme rosemary golden yeah jalapenos like

00:09:47.960 kalamata olives folded into the rich chewy sourdough they make banana breads they have a

00:09:55.400 banana bread menu a cookie menu and then this is where i go are you excuse me pizzas i've never

00:10:02.480 been so hungry in my life can you imagine i go down the block to pick up a pizza from two women

00:10:07.680 who made it for me and it's ten dollars they go here ten dollar cheese base two dollars for each

00:10:14.780 topping like cannot believe that i'm gonna start crying neighborhood so i go so i'm gonna i'm gonna

00:10:19.520 i was like i'm ordering the sourdough loaf and then my neighbor last night texted me at nine

00:10:23.320 o'clock hey i got two loaves this week i can walk one over to you right now if you want like i'm

00:10:27.020 not gonna be able to finish it no can you believe this oh my god that with the azurbeijon videos

00:10:32.680 i'm like i'm locking it and the wild basil and the mushroom microdose i think i might have sent

00:10:37.540 it to you but maybe you're not downloaded it what this time well the esselstyn family okay

00:10:42.640 and oats her savory oats that she starts the day with i want that it's gonna want this no no you

00:10:48.480 didn't send that to me oh really okay i saw it i i meant to because it's like you know it's savory 0.92

00:10:53.780 fucking oats you heard me which you know for some of us i want that bad she's like no matter what i 0.62

00:10:58.920 do i know i had these okay and it's like a lot of stuff right it's like like what walk me through 0.98

00:11:04.440 it turmeric bring it up okay turmeric nutritional yeast all right let me see oh yeah bring it up

00:11:08.740 Let's go. 0.50

00:11:09.500 I just want to make sure that it doesn't fuck my recording. 0.98

00:11:11.560 Hold on. 0.99

00:11:12.260 I'm sorry, but I'm moaning because the basil that I got at the Ojai Farmer's Market. 0.99

00:11:16.140 Oh, she throws some shiitakes in there.

00:11:17.760 She keeps them in the freezer.

00:11:19.220 They're frozen, so they're just like you pop them in.

00:11:21.780 Okay, let's see.

00:11:22.420 Wait.

00:11:22.580 Morning porridge, Ann's Warrior Oats.

00:11:24.820 Basil flowers are unbelievable.

00:11:26.480 This is.

00:11:26.880 Shout out to Gus Esselstyn, Poog Fan.

00:11:31.460 Let's see what's in here. 0.87

00:11:33.960 We'll have to source it later, but she did all the herbs.

00:11:37.480 oh there goes the ginger i'm seeing um oh pepper turmeric the pepper to activate the turmeric

00:11:44.700 greens of course you got to get greens your anointed greens um is it cooked with water

00:11:50.880 broth what what's oh i think i probably probably water but it's all the stuff she's throwing in

00:11:56.440 there it's like i want to make that like right now well jacqueline you know what i'm thinking

00:12:02.300 instapot right yeah i mean she's doing why stovetop you don't need it i mean unless you

00:12:10.060 want to like freeze blocks of it yeah she's doing stovetop and she's going yeah i'm ready for this

00:12:16.520 i might make that for lunch i mean wait i had wait can i show you my holistic breakfast

00:12:22.740 this is the so everyone i am experimenting back with microdosing mushrooms silo gummies

00:12:30.000 silos the brand i don't know what the legal status is of their business i don't know but

00:12:33.720 the point is can i show you this looks like a really small amount of food because i had already

00:12:37.780 eaten part of it but look at my plate of look at this this is from oh hi shout out to the duchess 0.63

00:12:45.260 best pastries maybe i've maybe ever fucking had in my life look at this look at this sourdough

00:12:50.600 olive bread and on top that is zoe full unbelievable polyphenol rich raw olive oil 0.83

00:12:59.860 i knew that i knew when i heard polyphenol olive oil was coming next yeah these are eggs i made 0.99

00:13:05.800 with fresh eggs from the ohio farmer's market with sheep milk feta that will blow your fucking 0.98

00:13:10.640 balls off rules feta rules unbelievable figs i'll be waiting for almond these are yeah daikon 0.98

00:13:17.140 spicy daikon radishes this is these figs that i got it hold cover your ears air one and this is

00:13:24.200 how when the micro dose is the mushroom micro dose can i tell you this is the benefits of today

00:13:28.380 one gummy lowest amount of dose almost sub perceptual but kind of there for me because i

00:13:32.340 took out an empty stomach we walked down to the coffee shop i see a guy with my same car and i go

00:13:38.340 hey we start chatting end up exchanging numbers friendly talking the whole waiting in the whole

00:13:43.260 coffee line having fun talking and then and then i'm home and i'm eating the fig and i'm just it's

00:13:50.920 like sub perceptual it's like but i'm looking at the inside of the fig and i'm like genuinely kind

00:13:55.120 of captivated by like the fact like the structure of the fig you know and i'm like i might be in

00:13:59.160 here like this is this is unbelievable the sweetness of this august fruit in august if

00:14:04.140 listen everyone run i'm so sorry but now you can ignore it all year if you can't get yourself to

00:14:10.620 the farmer's market this is the month to be radicalized into farmer's market culture because

00:14:15.940 because it's when you get late summer this is when you get the craziest fruit are we still

00:14:20.140 getting the tomatoes oh my god i mean is this when the tomato gallery can live remember my

00:14:24.880 refrigerator this is when you get the most pornographic 0.99

00:14:27.940 i got the plant-based uh shepherd's pie again today it was fucking heavenly 0.84

00:14:35.480 at my spot oh okay um so i'm just looking through because i just noticed i found my way to something 0.76

00:14:43.520 and then someone doing dr gregor's daily dozen for 60 days etc will you please send the oatmeal

00:14:50.820 recipe yeah but it was it was a video send it to the group video if you're following a rip

00:14:57.220 see it i'm just looking at someone going i'm a 77 year old ex-diabetic that follows the daily

00:15:02.140 doesn't. It's worked better for me than any medication

00:15:04.160 or medical solution for my diabetes. My cholesterol

00:15:06.160 is great, too. I'm off all statins.

00:15:08.440 He's right. Traveling is the hardest part.

00:15:10.060 A week at the family reunion messed me up this past year.

00:15:12.320 It took me almost three months to recover.

00:15:14.200 No, no, no, no.

00:15:16.080 From having, like, cornbread and, like,

00:15:18.860 ambrosia salad every

00:15:20.200 day? To get back

00:15:22.280 on. But, yeah,

00:15:24.280 I mean, I do... Oh, you know what she throws in? 0.72

00:15:26.000 The amla, which, you know, 0.94

00:15:28.160 if you're looking for a hot secret tip, exactly.

00:15:30.280 was like a magical

00:15:32.340 berry. Wait, I've never

00:15:34.960 even heard of it. Let me look this up.

00:15:36.480 Jacqueline, Jacqueline, Jacqueline.

00:15:38.760 You saw what I caved and bought

00:15:40.940 yesterday? Oh yeah, I was wondering about that. From last week's

00:15:43.000 episode. Yeah. Array

00:15:44.600 Tone Creatine Gummies. 1.00

00:15:47.120 Fine, you got me by the cunt. 1.00

00:15:48.880 And I bought them. I just asked 1.00

00:15:51.080 a guy who's into

00:15:52.600 weightlifting. I go,

00:15:55.200 should I get out? Creatine! 0.75

00:15:56.580 Yeah. Well, it's good for the brain too.

00:15:59.020 Yeah, a lot of women are talking about it. 1.00

00:16:00.040 I go, the brain, the brain. 1.00

00:16:00.960 That's what we're all hearing, right?

00:16:02.460 Yeah, the brain.

00:16:03.140 But, Kate, gooseberries.

00:16:04.640 Indian gooseberries are not to be confused with Barbados gooseberries,

00:16:08.540 Cape gooseberries, Chinese gooseberries.

00:16:10.700 Okay, point is amla.

00:16:12.740 In-vitro studies have shown that amla may have anti-cancer properties,

00:16:16.520 not only, right, blah, blah, blah, antioxidants, cholesterol,

00:16:22.520 arterial function, where I find amla.

00:16:25.100 So they have the fruit, frozen, dried, sweetened, et cetera,

00:16:29.020 et cetera. Indian gooseberry. But I've gotten

00:16:31.100 the powder and I was dumping that in

00:16:32.920 back in the day as in when I lived

00:16:34.980 in the United States, okay?

00:16:36.580 In my porridge daily. It just has a tart

00:16:39.120 flavor like anything else, okay?

00:16:41.540 Amla was in your daily porridge?

00:16:43.420 Sure was, baby. Where'd you get it?

00:16:45.220 I ordered it online, okay?

00:16:47.420 After reading about it from Dr. Greger

00:16:49.200 so I go, Amla's like 0.96

00:16:50.640 un-fucking-believable. 1.00

00:16:53.200 The Amla stuff, you're like, you're a fool 1.00

00:16:55.100 not to be having Amla. I'm humiliated that I 1.00

00:16:57.180 you know i wasn't before now i say this as someone who the only supplement i've enjoyed for the last 0.98

00:17:01.640 you know a couple months has been vodka yeah so i just want to remind everyone no no she parties

00:17:07.800 that which we well just like you know i scream for you know the truth of amla and i haven't had

00:17:14.080 it in nine months so yeah yeah of course you know stars i'm just like you wait i need to find i need

00:17:19.200 to find and show you what else let's see what else what else he's got going and i'll say this

00:17:24.120 product corner i'll reveal the brand of this uv 50 sun hat i got oh my god i mean i have headphones

00:17:31.540 on so but it's just it's kind of funny just when you think about i mean this really shows how

00:17:36.060 disinterested you are in my visor right the fact that you've bought a different hat and my visor

00:17:41.060 remains my signature visor the visor for me i think the visor yeah how dare you okay there's

00:17:48.100 No, for me, it has a deeper brim.

00:17:51.440 Yeah, it's true.

00:17:52.360 So that's all it is.

00:17:53.600 It's not about, it's not, I would do it if it were a hat.

00:17:56.340 I'm not in it for the visor.

00:17:57.780 I'm in it for this, you know, you'll see, you'll see.

00:18:00.200 Yeah.

00:18:00.760 See how you do.

00:18:01.580 You'll come visor-weard eventually.

00:18:03.000 Of course.

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00:18:57.120 You know what I like?

00:18:58.300 Do you ever find your ways into these?

00:19:00.280 See, I keep mistaking the video of that watermelon, and I love watermelon.

00:19:04.620 But I keep mistaking it for a second.

00:19:06.420 I'm like, are those tomatoes?

00:19:07.420 I keep seeing this.

00:19:08.980 And the way my mouth waters when I think a tomato is present.

00:19:11.520 oh really yeah the video it looks like it's tomatoes as you know i'm allergic to raw right

00:19:18.140 right well nothing's better than cooked by the way i'm getting an allergy blood test allergy

00:19:22.480 blood test really and you know what i think i think i've a little bit of research i think i'm

00:19:26.940 self-diagnosing i think it's a pollen allergy because it's a whole thing about the body confuses

00:19:32.740 certain pollens i don't really understand obviously why would i i'm not a doctor but

00:19:38.040 The point is, raw tomatoes, I'm fine with cooked, thank the Lord, or else I'd be devastated.

00:19:43.600 Wait, what was I running?

00:19:44.600 I was running to my phone to get something.

00:19:46.480 Oh, yeah.

00:19:47.280 I was wildly doing screen grabs, okay, going, I'm going to do screen grabs because I always

00:19:52.720 see things I want to talk about with you.

00:19:53.960 This is the perfect way.

00:19:55.580 And what did I grab?

00:19:57.120 Look at the brownies I made yesterday.

00:19:59.180 And I used to not be into brownies.

00:20:02.240 They were too rich.

00:20:02.820 The recipe's going up for the eavesdroppers, unimaginable.

00:20:05.960 Oh, yeah.

00:20:06.340 So I'll be posting the recipe for the people, for the paid subscribers will get the recipe to the protein brownies that I made yesterday.

00:20:13.040 Well, on right now.

00:20:14.220 So there was one of these, you know, comment threads where they go, where someone poses like, what's your craziest hack or whatever?

00:20:20.660 Like, what's your craziest ADHD or whatever?

00:20:23.060 Like, come on, give me your unhinged solutions. 1.00

00:20:25.480 Now, and they really are bevies of interesting shit, right? 0.99

00:20:30.580 And then all these people go like, like this comment. 0.98

00:20:33.080 So I'll remember to come back here.

00:20:34.300 It's like this, like, you ever see that?

00:20:36.340 i guess if people like your comment then you'll get an alert so that'll bring you back to the

00:20:40.560 thread just if you like it like i guess if they have that turned on so people are like please

00:20:46.140 like just for me so i'll come back it's like very weird okay so anyway i must have screen grabbed a

00:20:52.880 few what's something that you've automated in your life okay so let's see and then it's always very

00:20:58.680 interesting when you see questions because sometimes people like answer in a way that's

00:21:02.420 like oh my god like people are my brain like the the dopamine firing that was happening while

00:21:08.320 reading this right i was like soaring with excitement it was like like let's see someone's

00:21:13.500 like um i use vertical reusable towel dispensers for my underwear okay now i know that's never

00:21:20.880 going to work for cable land okay because to you it's going to be about so you stack the underwear

00:21:25.560 on top okay she goes new one comes in through the top i remove what to wear at the bottom slot

00:21:30.860 i have three of them for the three main types of panties i wear so like thong

00:21:34.820 whatever whatever they're like no more rummaging around in the drawer and i get to them all evenly

00:21:40.160 okay i hear you okay someone's like my favorite has been laundry service it's totally worth it

00:21:45.580 i'm like sure okay but i'm looking for the good shit right someone else are you ready this like 0.92

00:21:50.260 i was like yeah right well by the way no more nesting bowls i was clanging with my nesting 0.97

00:21:54.240 bowls yesterday going i can't live like this cannot live like that kate it's over i know

00:21:59.380 i know okay it's a it's a fool's game i know it's for display only so someone else i hooked up pex

00:22:06.980 tubing immediately i go i'm so excited because i go i don't even know what that is i'm gonna find

00:22:11.100 out i hooked up pex tubing with an oil funnel that goes from the sink down to my dog's water dish

00:22:17.000 so i don't have to pick it up and refill it at the sink every time i get it in water i was like

00:22:23.080 genius okay someone else is like an Alexa routine play a romantic list you know whatever sure sure

00:22:30.120 do you know there's an ADD thing about sitting in chairs weird because I you mean you're the

00:22:35.620 master you probably know this like I do and I a couple like I went to a job person and then I

00:22:41.160 went to an acupuncture they're commenting on the way I'm sitting in the chair which I don't think

00:22:45.480 I'm sitting that crazy but like twisted contort like right like someone's like well look how you're

00:22:50.080 sitting right now i'm like i always have my legs crossed right i'm never just like supine open

00:22:55.200 ready to receive god's will right i mean some of it is confused because it's like if they're trying

00:23:00.960 to be like you know why are your legs crossed and you're like because i'm a woman and i was taught

00:23:05.200 this you know like that's one thing right yeah yeah of course there's socialized posture yes

00:23:10.120 but the add thing and some of the other things in that realm with the seating which i relate to to

00:23:14.900 a certain extent i mean i'm in rock climber right now okay yeah it's like you know having a leg

00:23:20.220 folded up like so i often sit in the chair like i'll sit cross-legged in the desk chair so if

00:23:27.460 there's like a chair that's going to be my desk chair that i'm going to work in i need to be able

00:23:31.680 to like move into all these different like positions and it's it's kind of like you almost

00:23:35.680 it's almost like needing to be in an uncomfortable position because the discomfort of the position

00:23:40.160 is like giving you stimulation so it's almost like a stim okay so it's sort of like you know

00:23:46.040 i'm always like like like i'm always like begging chris to just like you know like i'm like like

00:23:51.180 stand on me or like it'll help me focus like if i'm on my stomach on the computer i'm just like

00:23:55.700 will you just like stand on my legs okay you know and it's like sort of like uncomfortable but like

00:24:00.020 that's doing something so it's like it's almost like take the burden off me of making myself

00:24:04.080 uncomfortable like will you just do it i mean the weighted blanket like right it's like feedback so

00:24:08.560 like sitting almost like contorted or whatever it's a yeah it's like being in the comfortable

00:24:14.280 chair suspended in comfort is like floating is not yeah so anyway it's um let's see make sure

00:24:22.920 i'm going here back to add just really quick my son smock my son smock the drama continues

00:24:28.260 look i go out for my neighborhood walk this morning to be in community look what i get 0.98

00:24:32.580 i get a goddamn oh fedex sorry we missed you leave it on the porch and by the way like they 0.95

00:24:39.900 didn't like they they they so there's something available no so here's what's confusing to me 0.98

00:24:46.240 available for pickup date i don't want to pick it up this is not a 400 you know yeah that's the

00:24:56.300 highest number i could go i'm like it's not uh you know oh i mean well i told you about you know

00:25:01.400 what i went through luckily they left it at bannerman's bannerman's bar next door oh i know

00:25:06.280 and then we talked about it last up but you know that's what you almost hope for looking at a photo

00:25:12.060 of my i want to shout out the shark ninja vacuum which we generously gifted which the little one

00:25:17.840 or the big one no the big one okay i gotta get that yeah because it allows me to vacuum without

00:25:22.780 plugging it in doing i thought you got one well i've been away so i said i'll have to hold off

00:25:27.800 Today I was doing vacuum maintenance.

00:25:30.380 Couldn't believe it.

00:25:31.180 No, but I did a while back at like their little one that I like.

00:25:34.860 And I was like, oh, one of these in every room.

00:25:37.520 Why do spiders?

00:25:38.900 Oh, yeah, I remember you saying that.

00:25:40.180 Why do spiders?

00:25:41.040 I was tracking a spider yesterday.

00:25:42.840 Yeah.

00:25:43.400 It was on the ceiling from 10 a.m. to maybe 8 p.m.

00:25:47.860 What's he doing up there?

00:25:49.280 I almost thought he died.

00:25:50.960 But then to my horror, around 10 o'clock, I look up, he's gone.

00:25:53.800 And I've been tracking him the whole day.

00:25:55.660 Is he laying eggs?

00:25:56.720 Ew.

00:25:56.900 i looked it up couldn't really get i don't think he is laying eggs right right but i don't know

00:26:04.920 wait hold on let me just make sure i got this going here so we'll see if anyone else you know

00:26:09.400 my ongoing you know my ongoing drama and trauma with my orange tree yeah i mean kind of i've been

00:26:14.280 like devastated i've been watering it more look look it's producing fruit yeah wow i sighed the

00:26:21.800 relief i sighed being like oh my god i haven't killed all manner of insult and injury kate i

00:26:27.340 know i unsubscribed from groons that name is like unbelievable it was designed for you to say it i

00:26:36.860 know it was designed in that way i'm just making sure sorry i've been a little sloppy with my audio

00:26:42.120 i'm just starting to i won't lie i'm starting to think about what because i'm going to be ordering

00:26:48.520 in because it's getting late it's getting late in scotland and the question is because i had the

00:26:55.260 most delicious falafel wrap okay i don't know what these people are doing it is one of these

00:27:01.800 things where i taste it and i go god i feel taken care of by a kitchen i didn't see right wow

00:27:08.000 arriving in a warm a warm little metallic packet just like a warm water bottle but you know there's

00:27:15.680 food in there you open it up yum yum yum okay i get some i get one of their their chili sauces

00:27:20.680 or their like ketchup but it's their unique ketchup that you go what even is this they made

00:27:25.580 it themselves oh i'm gonna have to look that up and then i'm gonna have to decide am i going to

00:27:32.820 explore greater scotland this time where's loch ness you know but you have to meet me in new york

00:27:40.440 you would worry about that it's like weeks away okay weeks oh yeah you're right you're right when

00:27:46.480 do you when you finish i had my last show just now what jacqueline you're unbelievable well i'm

00:27:53.100 considering i was like today i felt bad there were a couple of people in line okay again to pay what

00:27:57.620 you want i'm going i was like tell them maybe i'll tell them to check my instagram maybe i'll try to

00:28:01.500 add a show for anyone i don't know i'm starved you know once i'm on stage i like to stay there

00:28:07.960 Wow.

00:28:08.560 I know.

00:28:09.000 It's really how it goes, isn't it?

00:28:10.500 This is the classic thing where I'm just looking up the place that I got the delicious thing from and going, if I walked down the street, would I have gone into that restaurant?

00:28:17.680 No.

00:28:17.980 Meanwhile, they've been providing the most delicious.

00:28:20.880 I know.

00:28:22.080 Takeaway, delivery.

00:28:23.300 It is so relevant.

00:28:26.900 Can you imagine some of them knowing they're incredible but knowing that when you see them, like you doubt me but you love me in the night?

00:28:32.340 Yeah.

00:28:33.020 I know.

00:28:34.080 Like if you saw where this was coming from. 0.99

00:28:36.100 Fucking with the lights off. 0.97

00:28:37.260 yeah exactly it's like glory hole but for a restaurant yeah yeah is that what it would be 0.98

00:28:44.700 yeah exactly that's what it would be yeah it's like i only want to see another thing my new

00:28:49.520 lifestyle 100 beeswax candles nothing better we've talked about it i think somebody was going

00:28:54.440 to send us beeswax candles and it never happened i i suspect we are to blame 100 something tells me

00:29:02.540 i walked by a window twice now seeing the same cat sleeping in their tree in their home

00:29:08.080 and next to the cat tree where they sleep big ass basket of toys where i go are there like 20 cats 0.98

00:29:14.240 in there because there's so many goddamn toys and i know look i know how they can add up okay 0.98

00:29:18.660 but there was something very sweet about it because it looked very organized and this basket 0.99

00:29:23.100 is just filled so many with toys and it's like adorable and it was just snoozing in the sun of

00:29:29.740 the window and god to be a cat napping well you're gonna love the watermelon video i sent you

00:29:36.820 because there's like two little girls so cute with their kittens and like this is the thing

00:29:41.900 it's like like a baby a human baby being curious about the cat and kind of like feeling that and

00:29:47.880 like feeling the sharp nails and like recoiling it's like yeah she's learning you know what i

00:29:51.860 mean right let her learn yeah let her learn yeah let her feel i actually stumbled into a new i'm

00:29:58.320 saying it like it's related and it's not but it bring it on i stumbled into a secondary place that

00:30:03.860 i wanted to try because i could see just like tiny little place called dine time spelled t-h-y-m-e

00:30:10.100 it's right next to the place i go a lot so i haven't really been able to get in but i finally

00:30:13.980 did i go i'm gonna get in there and have a little something before i go over my other spot the guy 0.90

00:30:17.440 was a goddamn prince okay dine time folks t-h-y-m-e give me a little lemon candy on the way out 0.97

00:30:22.740 he was unbelievable stay here the whole thing okay it was like something very special was 0.99

00:30:28.640 going on there and i was like i wonder how many um hags live here i'm just looking up now i'm just

00:30:33.760 for fun people under the daily dozen someone's going i've been following it for years i love it

00:30:40.400 jacklyn jacklyn please send the savory oats recipe it's i can't right now because i'm panicking i'm

00:30:45.880 on the phone and it's on instagram when we okay if you follow rip esselston which you should

00:30:51.780 i deleted instagram exactly i can't redownload right now but i will i deleted it this morning

00:30:58.220 i've never been so hungry in my life oh my god really yeah i'm starving i had breakfast but i'm

00:31:03.060 hungry and i'm gonna listen to my body and i'm gonna take that as a signal to eat good idea

00:31:09.380 but i just mean like yeah not not going brownie should have held

00:31:15.420 yeah yeah i'm like i'm hungry didn't if it didn't it didn't listen to this i'm sorry folks but i am

00:31:21.240 going to reach out to silo and tell them because i don't know why the silo microdose gummies for a

00:31:27.900 while i loved the way they made me feel but i was getting a stomach ache from them like clockwork

00:31:32.140 every night and i was like heartbroken i was like can't do this but this is what i'm experiencing

00:31:36.820 the house blend microdose listen to this one to three gummies they they say like start with two

00:31:43.620 i've been doing one i'm a lightweight one mood boost increased concentration giddy positive

00:31:50.220 elevated energy enhanced perception of colors groovy body high i'm experiencing the increased

00:31:55.560 concentration the mood boost and the positive elevated energy hence staring into the eye of

00:32:00.960 the fig right right anyway i'm just looking at an article about the uptick in mushroom and

00:32:07.940 psilocybin and the whole thing and the therapeutic effects but also there's been more calls to the

00:32:13.600 emergency room people really yeah they freak out i guess or they sub hallucinogenic doses

00:32:20.480 i'm also saying is this the mushrooms i'm gonna send you this this little piece of candle wax 0.99

00:32:26.080 broke off i go it's a cock and balls tell me this isn't a cock and balls i just i just texted it to 0.97

00:32:31.200 you is it uncanny to me it's uncanny ew i mean i mean you should have you know not preloaded and 0.99

00:32:39.580 said what is this right oh yeah you're right you're right and which i've been like what is

00:32:42.800 that beeswax you'd be like what does this look like and then let me try see it like that i go

00:32:46.200 a gun i don't know yeah then you go you know let's see microdosing can lead to

00:32:53.740 some things but so can other things i'm not gonna poison your experience

00:33:00.280 no i mean here's the thing that the you know anything can lead to anything

00:33:05.980 they said and you can quote me on that

00:33:10.680 this might have to be a classic short episode due to hunger for dinner that's all that's fine 0.60

00:33:17.700 that's fine because i gotta because damn what did i start reading in the night

00:33:22.760 oh we haven't we have not been recording long feels long because i'm so hungry i know i know 0.52

00:33:29.060 just trying to think if there's any snack nearby oh i think we got an email about someone heard

00:33:35.800 that i was they acknowledged my use of of arc and they recommended something another browser

00:33:42.160 anyway my life has really been playing out on um on the laptop this month i gotta say the laptop

00:33:49.320 is like my home it's filthy it's in the restaurant it's covered in okay listen so here's my little

00:33:55.640 desk area for the day i'm gonna start to do my work i'm going to do a 15 minute melissa wood

00:34:01.160 health i know i said i'm i have a new girl and i do shout out to the pyro app which i've been

00:34:07.220 enjoying um for workouts that also are like they're more intense than melissa would i'm

00:34:13.180 going to introduce just small daily motion even if it's small even just really a little bit yeah

00:34:20.040 and and you're gonna send me the the savory oats recipe i'm gonna make that okay wait trying i

00:34:27.320 gotta leave them with something i'm trying to think i mean what can i leave it is too short

00:34:30.980 we can't leave we're gone oh yeah okay we can't leave me i don't think we can't leave we just

00:34:35.040 gotta hang out for a little while and like find like i think by virtue of us hanging out and doing

00:34:38.680 what like we actually want to do on the internet for a minute we might find a way to something

00:34:42.160 so let me just see like i love a full yawn into the into the mic into the mic fully on into the

00:34:50.520 mic so it's it's late august we're actually approaching christmas now to a point where we

00:34:55.560 It's too late to do Christmas in July.

00:34:57.880 Do you see what I'm saying?

00:34:58.560 Yeah, it is.

00:34:59.600 It's like Christmas is en route, folks.

00:35:02.200 Looking for a birdbath if anybody has any ideas of where I can get a gorgeous, affordable birdbath.

00:35:07.100 Now, are we talking like a classic stone whatever?

00:35:11.140 Yeah, I'm open.

00:35:12.500 Because what I'm imagining is I feel like you grab those at an estate sale if you've got the manpower. 0.99

00:35:20.820 I got to get myself to an estate sale for the first time in my goddamn life. 0.98

00:35:24.460 It's always a bird bath at the end, I feel like. 0.99

00:35:27.880 I mean, I could be wrong.

00:35:29.040 I'll check with my friend Paul.

00:35:30.040 He'll have the answer.

00:35:31.280 I used to be obsessed with, like, what do they do with this stuff that doesn't sell?

00:35:36.420 Where does it go?

00:35:37.720 And it's like this man picks it up, and he sells it.

00:35:41.360 There's always someone.

00:35:42.200 I want to do a huge shout-out.

00:35:44.320 And guess what?

00:35:44.780 This is overdue, and I'm happy to do this.

00:35:47.380 I want to do a huge shout-out to Burrow.

00:35:50.960 Oh.

00:35:51.700 Has been a major.

00:35:53.120 No, this is huge.

00:35:53.940 part of our life burrow has been a major part of our life a major supporter of the podcast

00:35:57.720 and i have to say burrow they sent us we had a mate well jacqueline's sofa in in her los angeles

00:36:04.920 home is burrow sure do sure do and then burrow sent wonderful shelves and then they extreme

00:36:11.520 generosity sent me and i will be posting um because i'm i am doing some yard work so i want

00:36:16.620 to wait for the yard to be complete before i you know i'm posting but beautiful outdoor furniture

00:36:22.500 and i've had people compliment me i had someone come over someone very high end someone who can

00:36:27.060 afford the highest end of stuff they go i love this where is this from right because burrow it

00:36:31.220 ain't cheap but it's at an affordable it's not it's not obscene the way some of this comes in

00:36:35.800 parts become comes in parts are manageable yep i was an early adopter back in new york city folks

00:36:42.520 i have a gorgeous teak outdoor table with two benches that i love it's really chic i have a

00:36:48.380 couch two chairs phenomenal and so just burrow fabulous i'm gonna go i'm gonna go on the website

00:36:53.500 and check out what else is cooking poke around see what's new yeah yeah because we were like i wish

00:36:59.440 i had gotten a bigger oh we got 70 clearance that's always exciting let's see we've got a big

00:37:04.260 sale happening on burrow i mean i was literally an early adopter i discovered them i know because

00:37:09.340 it was dr couch was all you had in new york labor day sale yeah labor day's coming wow because all

00:37:14.920 you had in new york city if you had if you wanted to get a couch and you had a narrow you know walk

00:37:19.580 up there was a thing called dr couch where you have to pay for someone to break your couch in

00:37:23.820 half bring it upstairs and sew it back together yeah okay so borough came in pieces we hauled

00:37:30.160 those sections up to i should post a picture of the early borough in my i've got the dunes

00:37:36.140 collection it is so gorgeous yeah as do i dunes teak table i've got the dunes bench i i just

00:37:43.500 really um dunes and grooms okay oh wait nomad sleep kit that's new so so i boldly went for the

00:37:54.520 wait that's a new so i don't recognize this sofa what is this one but i boldly went for oh my god

00:38:00.580 i'm like wait is it no longer did they decide it was too chic and had to get rid of it let's see

00:38:06.400 where is it but my sofa what i love about this sofa is that it always looks neat because it's

00:38:13.100 really firm and taut.

00:38:15.860 Let's see what they got in the

00:38:17.260 I'm emailing them. 0.86

00:38:19.240 Ottomans. Wonderful customer service.

00:38:22.860 What?

00:38:24.680 What?

00:38:25.480 Nothing. Oh,

00:38:27.260 this is new. This is a new chair for them. I haven't

00:38:29.160 seen this before. No, I was just laughing at like...

00:38:31.520 By the way, I'm looking, folks, listen,

00:38:33.140 ahead of the summer, this really seems like an ad

00:38:35.260 and I swear to God, they are not paying us.

00:38:36.780 This is from the heart.

00:38:38.360 This is from the heart.

00:38:40.100 No, because outdoor

00:38:40.920 outdoor space now's the time they've got this sale going on i'm looking at some of this at

00:38:46.560 this beautiful teak dining set again but this is quality this is gonna last and it's gonna

00:38:50.920 transform your outdoor space we've got 70 off so now's the time i mean i remember when they had

00:38:57.340 they had one sofa okay and i i ordered it in the oatmeal and i had so many naps with my dear cats

00:39:05.320 on that sofa heavenly naps so you finish your shows unbelievable are you having any kind of

00:39:11.040 ceremonial dinner anything in scotland to like mark time i'm thinking about going to porty beach

00:39:16.100 um i'm thinking about a couple people portobello beach that is um i'm thinking about you know

00:39:21.820 maybe now it's time to go in the classic ghost tour the one that you know go go at night for

00:39:26.920 once given you know i've only been during the day because berlant insisted that she come along and

00:39:32.160 didn't want her sleep cycle to be disturbed so we went during the day she left after 15 minutes

00:39:35.840 wait she was hungry for a protein bar and was not impressed by the tour the acting okay oh it's so

00:39:43.300 sad it's amazing okay it's absolutely unreal it's unbelievable i would know i mean and i knew you at

00:39:49.660 the time but so what happened this is a perfect way to wrap up well what happened some listeners

00:39:54.500 know that obviously i was very excited to go in a edinburgh ghost tour because the caves you go

00:40:02.100 deep down below it is i mean it's it's you're beneath you're truly in the bowels of the city

00:40:07.120 these places are haunted wow and i wanted to go on one of the night ones but oh of course 0.98

00:40:14.360 kate me the fucking narc loser okay i can't interrupt my sleep yeah day and i decided well 0.98

00:40:20.500 we are going in the underground tour so no light gets down there so in theory yeah this shouldn't 0.99

00:40:25.060 ruin it yeah we go kate's like rolling her eyes the actor who's leading the thing okay she's

00:40:31.560 unimpressed by like the jokes okay yeah of our ghost or leader and then you know it's classic

00:40:36.980 kate where i don't remember even going downstairs i don't think you did i think you left before we

00:40:42.520 actually descended we were still outside okay and as i say all members being outside and going yeah

00:40:48.180 and going and being like uh-huh i'm being like i'm just like i need something with protein in it

00:40:53.220 quick okay like i just need something i need a piece of protein like now like okay and it was 0.94

00:40:59.840 like and it was like i'm gonna go okay okay within minutes fuck and then there i am at 11 0.97

00:41:07.260 okay yeah i'm in like 11 15 a.m fucking tour unbelievable i'm so sorry that's but you know 0.97

00:41:15.660 it's how you learn right you learn to keep your own like i would now go like if i if it really 0.93

00:41:21.940 mattered going at eight that i want to go you feel like right i would go because i need to be

00:41:25.800 able to be you know boundaries i need to be able to say if i'm at the 11 15 p.m what i want and

00:41:31.460 this is actually i would argue is how i felt which is you know good right it's like no i chose to do

00:41:37.040 the 11 15 because i thought it would be dark and it would be fun to have kate so like that choice i

00:41:42.540 made i made this choice oh so i have to be i'm okay with it even if she leaves hungry i'm so

00:41:48.100 sorry for the purpose of the story though i do want to read i just want people to know jacqueline

00:41:51.660 was not alone no yeah yeah i just mean that it wasn't like it was us and then i was like i gotta

00:41:56.320 go no no you had yes and and another uh couple acts were there there were people there yeah i

00:42:01.700 just want to be clear i named them but i don't want to shame them for questioning how a ghost

00:42:04.780 can walk through a wall um okay because i i had to i had to lay down the law and say remember your

00:42:12.300 quantum physics all right wait what was the second ghost i saw i saw the first the bust

00:42:17.220 yeah and then i saw one with like the buttons on his coat oh my god in london that's right

00:42:22.760 yeah yeah yeah unbelievable incredible and i wasn't talking a lot about ghosts on stages you

00:42:30.140 know and it's amazing the resistance some of these people don't you think it's a sign that

00:42:35.420 it was real that i wasn't scared i know it was i know it was real because i'm scared of ghosts

00:42:40.260 respectfully i do not wish to see you yeah yeah exactly exactly i said no i'm not open

00:42:46.540 thank you i want you to have peace but i'm actually not i don't want to engage there's

00:42:52.020 something that's very you about respectfully it's like you drawing boundaries is very specific i

00:43:00.180 don't know it's like it's it's good i wonder what would be like us together imagine if we were both

00:43:05.500 sleeping in the room and you wake me up you go jacqueline jacqueline and i'm so ready i you know

00:43:11.180 such a believer, but I, you know, but blind, but can't see. Can you imagine? Oh my God. I want to

00:43:16.140 see. I want to see. He's right there. Maybe I could in that setting. Okay. I'm going to force

00:43:24.000 myself to work. I've got a special matcha. I've got my brownie. I'm going to work for, you know,

00:43:30.080 I'm going to do, I'm going to work for 60 minutes uninterrupted and see what happens. Work for 11

00:43:33.760 with a timer and see how you feel. Cause once you're going, you just might, but you can quit

00:43:38.300 after 11 okay okay oh no the email i sent to the borough person bounced back you mean we we have a

00:43:44.700 dead we have a dead no longer there they're no longer there our borough contact is no longer

00:43:50.060 no well now it's time to take their name their full name which should be in there yeah and go

00:43:55.540 find them and see where they landed because that's worked out for us a couple times

00:43:59.700 sure has honey

00:44:01.940 sure has

00:44:03.460 where they land

00:44:05.140 we land

00:44:06.280 love you

00:44:07.380 love you

00:44:07.960 bye

Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - September 09, 2025

Anything Can Lead to Anything

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