Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - Berlant & Novak Remix： ADHD Culture

00:00:00.000 We'll see you next time.

00:00:30.000 some would. Here is ADHD culture. 1.00

00:00:40.440 By the way, I just took an Adderall. I've been raw. Adderall after 4 p.m.

00:00:46.320 You make a good point. What does raw dog mean?

00:00:50.720 Raw dogging it with ADHD unmedicated. That's what the ADHD like Reddit. 0.96

00:00:54.880 Well, same.

00:00:55.680 No, right, but I just mean it's been bigger than it's ever been.

00:01:01.260 And, you know, I've been going extreme systems-based.

00:01:06.100 I mean, have I shown you this yet?

00:01:07.380 I must have because it's been hanging on the back of my chair.

00:01:09.920 What is it?

00:01:11.480 I'm getting into vests now, fly fisherman's vests, photographer's vest, okay?

00:01:17.220 And I'm not even the first to do this.

00:01:18.660 Oh, my God.

00:01:20.080 It's all on the body.

00:01:22.260 So there's no more crossing of room.

00:01:23.980 okay i no longer cross rooms to get things and get distracted what would you have in your vest

00:01:28.160 you know classics okay a pen a pencil highlighter yeah sure okay just because

00:01:33.400 if you're living a journal-based life you know

00:01:35.940 oh but i had a genius idea so i'm moving everything out okay onto the back patio okay

00:01:45.780 this is my new year treat for the people okay the strategy this technique so okay i'll start this 0.94

00:01:50.860 way you have your your dresser there's a bunch of shit on it right take a garbage bag to clear 0.74

00:01:56.000 everything into the garbage bag okay now look at your clean dresser look at the garbage bag go 0.98

00:02:00.140 what's coming out of the trash yeah yeah what am i bringing back out of the trash yeah it's a

00:02:03.800 completely different question okay so i go all right i'm purging i'm purging okay and jan one

00:02:09.740 this is what i was doing jan one binge and purge talking about binging all the episodes and you're

00:02:14.560 talking about purging constantly all here i hope everyone's enjoying the uh so i'm moving out to

00:02:26.440 the patio because here's a big block for me i'm not binging i'm purging are you ready when i'm

00:02:30.220 cleaning as an ad when i'm cleaning as an ADHD person okay cleaning up i go what am i going to

00:02:37.520 throw out this bag and then i do it okay and then later in the day i'm going i need a bag i just

00:02:41.560 threw it out so instead all the trash goes to the back patio okay it can be retrieved if i find a

00:02:46.740 sudden i throw thing i'm never gonna find the thing this goes to throw it out and then i find

00:02:50.300 the thing goes to so the trash is in a semi almost trash state it's ready to be taken out but during

00:02:56.300 the course of the day if i find the thing that i need for it okay i can bring it back in yeah

00:02:59.720 hey hey sure i got most of my downstairs cleared oh my god and wow next i'm moving to the upstairs

00:03:07.940 oh my god i have to book a flight to australia i'm frozen in ad adhd paralysis i every day that

00:03:20.740 goes by i can't decide and the prices go up they go up they go up help it doesn't matter 0.98

00:03:24.240 you're working book the fucking flight yeah it doesn't matter my god and also you don't have 0.95

00:03:29.320 to book it that much in advance it doesn't fucking help does it i don't think it does 0.99

00:03:34.140 I am constantly freeing everyone 0.71

00:03:36.340 I like this

00:03:37.160 it's a new world 0.99

00:03:37.740 just fucking do it when you do it 0.99

00:03:39.060 I always book last minute 0.99

00:03:40.040 I'm still going to be booking a month out

00:03:41.320 are you going to be here tomorrow

00:03:42.580 I go I don't know yet

00:03:44.320 okay

00:03:44.680 and I'm just owning it

00:03:46.340 you're booking

00:03:46.700 it's always impressive

00:03:47.980 and I change day of

00:03:48.900 I go when you go to New York

00:03:49.840 you go I don't know

00:03:50.520 Christmas is the day after tomorrow

00:03:52.220 I go that's cool

00:03:53.100 I knew I'd get there but

00:03:55.180 yeah everyone is like

00:03:57.320 okay you're freeing me

00:03:58.240 Australia

00:03:58.700 yes

00:03:59.340 buy it

00:04:01.020 don't buy it

00:04:01.620 day of you could buy it

00:04:03.540 Ooh, I love that.

00:04:10.820 I've been getting stuck in the car on my Adderall.

00:04:13.320 Stuck in the car.

00:04:15.280 Like doing something on my phone for like two hours.

00:04:18.000 Can't get out.

00:04:18.460 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:04:19.080 Enough.

00:04:19.500 I get stuck in the car while stuck in the car.

00:04:21.380 Yeah, I get stuck in the car.

00:04:22.620 I mean, I get stuck on the bed a lot.

00:04:25.000 I get stuck naked on the bed between getting ready.

00:04:28.400 Oh, you cannot sit.

00:04:30.240 The 80 thing, which I really feel is the running down the clock thing.

00:04:32.440 running down the clock like okay i have to be out the door in eight minutes that helps in that

00:04:36.900 moment choosing to do something choosing to do something else yeah oh running down the clock

00:04:43.820 being like being like okay i have to live in 10 minutes okay now it's eight minutes

00:04:46.760 and then in that moment being like okay well i'm going to well believing you can do

00:04:51.540 three things at once or you know an hour's worth of work in five minutes because sometimes we can

00:04:57.440 so do you want to know about my sash what is your sash i noticed it earlier when we came in here we

00:05:07.940 go what is that okay it's keys okay that's all it is it's keys on a sash okay you're living your

00:05:15.580 life okay throw this on before i got the door i know i have my keys yeah okay i get to the car

00:05:20.540 okay first of all get out of the car you ever throw your keys in they go oh god i gotta lock

00:05:25.320 it and you go digging around i was thinking how many years of my life digging around in a purse

00:05:29.720 how many years yeah that's true that's true oh okay okay boom okay drop it so it's kind of like

00:05:36.220 a bandolier well i did have a bandolier i remember you did and actually i have the oh i remember and

00:05:41.880 i have a remainder of the bandolier look okay my phone case is is because it ultimately was

00:05:48.920 was a bit limiting i wonder if i should get that for my mom for christmas i've thought about

00:05:52.700 designing a new thing but it's not necessarily just about how i don't know yet if i'm going to

00:05:56.440 build it out and have everything i need on it yeah maybe but anyway this is a system okay and

00:06:01.980 i i haven't yet identified why this is working for me more than the bandolier okay or other

00:06:08.160 things but it is working how long have you been using the sash weeks you're kidding weeks to

00:06:13.260 months no hangs on the door hangs on the door okay so first of all like there was no time i did

00:06:18.220 this like look like it's dirty you know from use yeah it hangs on a thing by the door i actually

00:06:23.880 put it there you grab it you go you ready for this level of what's the little pouch credit card

00:06:29.000 tom bin huge

00:06:32.420 so like today yeah i'm in the car okay i'm doing a little work in the car i like to do work in my 0.92

00:06:43.680 car on my wi-fi because yes i pay for wi-fi in my car wait what the fuck is that jacqueline okay

00:06:49.460 they offered it when when or you know it was a thing when i when i got the car and it was like 0.61

00:06:54.700 x dollars a month or whatever for the year and i'm like wait are you telling me that like for

00:06:59.000 whatever 20 bucks a month a three-hour car ride can be like i can be as an office i can

00:07:05.620 full portable office so i spend my days in parking lots okay i think it's great and and

00:07:11.760 i've gotten a little too comfortable the car where it's almost like being home it's not having the

00:07:15.240 same psychological effect yeah but yeah pull up to a store well this is you don't get in honey

00:07:20.460 i know don't get in until until i've done a little something sounds fun go from place to place we're

00:07:27.480 gonna work in the car blast we're gonna work in the car after this gonna be huge on the way to

00:07:31.220 dinner I'm so excited here's the thing though here's the thing okay that that has been relevant

00:07:41.840 for me so you know these ADD solutions like that book which I know I've posted before maybe it could

00:07:48.000 be posted again like you know whatever that that that book is but it's all about being able to wing

00:07:53.880 things wing things into the hamper that's why I have a hamper in every room so I take a clothes

00:07:59.140 off, I can wing it physically and it'll land and toss it. Yeah. So I've put a larger trash can,

00:08:07.660 like a paper wastebasket type of trash can, you know, like an office one, a classic sort of net

00:08:14.640 wire basket outside the bathroom. And it's right there. I have a tiny bathroom, so it's more

00:08:22.240 relevant for me, but you know, into the trash things go and it's a big open trash and yeah,

00:08:28.160 it gets brought down more often okay but i'm not in this situation where i'm trying to stuff

00:08:33.160 something into the little bathroom trash like you know what i mean like you can't be stuffing i don't

00:08:37.840 know it's it i'm also by the way upstairs recycling there next to next to that like wow because

00:08:43.860 otherwise what's happening i'm i'm i'm leaving the bottle of the mountain valley the whatever

00:08:48.960 i'm leaving it upstairs you can't you can't be what recycling in other rooms no no you can't you

00:08:54.400 can i'm just saying stuffing into the trash no but i'm saying i've added recycling in other rooms

00:08:59.860 i know it's unbelievable okay i'm saying i'm saying it could change your life because now

00:09:03.740 instead of putting the empty bottle down i actually have somewhere relevant to put it

00:09:07.380 you think i don't want that in my hallway well get ready for a new life

00:09:11.680 no no so my closet is not a walk-in closet it's a reaching closet it's not a big closet

00:09:18.160 it's horribly organized this is what happened the other day literally i was in bed oh yeah

00:09:22.320 couldn't move discussing with my partner the closet bad or how to organize it and i literally

00:09:27.540 it's i go we were talking about it yeah i go i go i can't live like this

00:09:32.400 genuinely i go oh because my jeans because they an angel my partner so much more organized than

00:09:39.080 i am much easier than i am they're like let's fold your jeans put them above so you don't

00:09:42.860 so they folded my jeans for me so sweet the other day i'm looking for jeans i go i can't get it

00:09:48.940 like putting it back oh yeah it's like the tower falls or whatever meltdown not actual meltdown

00:09:54.440 but i was thinking i was just thinking about it and i said i said i was like i can't live like this

00:09:57.480 and then we're we're talking about it the add clutter okay i'm gonna read that i'm gonna read

00:10:02.220 that okay it's all winging things into open top no i know i know well you're gonna but but i was

00:10:08.600 shutting down about the closet organization and everything and and the cost of everything and

00:10:13.280 getting it yeah and i said i want to get drunk i was like makes you want to drink like it makes

00:10:18.340 you want to like like like i was like i want to get drunk and high where you get yeah i can't feel

00:10:24.560 the pain of this like you know as someone who doesn't like struggle with i don't have a problem 0.99

00:10:29.060 yeah yeah but then like kind of like yeah i was like take it the fuck take it away eject me from 0.97

00:10:36.220 the suffering okay we're sitting down someone came to my house today for an in-person closet 0.97

00:10:45.580 the consultation the one that costs 20k or whatever no sweetheart no exactly no someone

00:10:49.980 said to me quoted me 20k i screamed and laughed and cried before you do anything these are things

00:10:55.280 you don't do without talking to me first because i researched these things for years okay well i

00:10:59.460 never act okay but if you're gonna you know what i'm saying no fraction fraction fraction of the

00:11:03.580 cost don't you dare i haven't signed anything okay without consulting you well first of all

00:11:09.360 without reading the Organizing for ADD book. 0.86

00:11:12.200 This woman gets it. 1.00

00:11:13.340 Are drawers okay? 1.00

00:11:15.180 I'm trying to remember.

00:11:16.520 Yeah, I think so.

00:11:17.240 I need drawers.

00:11:18.120 The dream, okay, of what you, the ideal.

00:11:20.440 Bins.

00:11:20.940 By the way, guess what I heard?

00:11:22.200 Open front bins.

00:11:23.020 Guess what I heard?

00:11:24.840 Underwear in a bin instead of folded up individually.

00:11:28.100 Wait, wait, wait.

00:11:28.700 Hold on a second.

00:11:29.260 Bin of underwear?

00:11:30.120 Is this a joke?

00:11:31.140 No.

00:11:31.380 You fold your underwear?

00:11:32.860 I try to.

00:11:33.660 Why?

00:11:34.500 Exactly.

00:11:35.120 Oh, I know.

00:11:36.340 Well, I have my underwear in a drawer,

00:11:37.500 which is a huge, like.

00:11:38.380 nancy reagan folded underwear why you don't have time for that exactly thank you and also you don't

00:11:44.760 need to be folded no wrinkled i mean i'm sorry i'm genuinely shocked that that folded what else

00:11:51.040 you folding underwear i mean i just said socks what do you mean you know socks folded or the

00:12:00.360 well this is at least it's holding two socks together throw it in it's i mean i i at least

00:12:05.620 I think I'm a, I didn't even realize like anyone was folding underwear at this point.

00:12:09.440 They're folding it.

00:12:10.380 I've been folding it.

00:12:11.460 That's like folding a bag of rags.

00:12:14.280 First of all.

00:12:14.700 I know.

00:12:15.620 Yeah.

00:12:15.860 I mean, those people are worried about wrinkles in their underwear, I guess.

00:12:18.320 Is that what they're worried about?

00:12:19.320 I know.

00:12:19.580 No.

00:12:20.020 I think it's supposed to be about like order or something.

00:12:22.840 I know.

00:12:23.220 I'm just.

00:12:23.680 Because here's the thing.

00:12:24.300 I mean, I guess if you're really choosing your underwear in a meaningful way each day.

00:12:28.880 Yeah.

00:12:29.080 For me, it's.

00:12:31.100 Okay.

00:12:31.480 I'm just happy it's there.

00:12:32.540 I'm being much doing a huge underwear overhaul.

00:12:33.900 It's like reaching into a.

00:12:34.400 if alpha or some closet by the way they have to do it in the next seven days i'm not kidding

00:12:38.960 so when this airs get it out now you literally learned but here's the thing today that not to

00:12:45.500 fold your underwear i know you are in no condition to make permanent like to go yeah a couple but

00:12:52.300 drawer cubbies those will work for me you have no reason to believe they will okay but also

00:12:56.320 here's what i'm realizing i know you can relate to this yeah the endless research i'll do it i'll do

00:13:01.940 it so now I'm going action because this has been the theme of the year for me just do it really

00:13:07.800 yeah all right well here's what I'll say okay here's what I'll say well you know what you know

00:13:15.020 maybe I can you know invent it okay because it doesn't exist right now the open front

00:13:19.360 non-plastic okay bin what goes in there everything shirts yeah well I mean this

00:13:31.280 woman would say maybe not okay i mean folded within reason like what are you folding kate

00:13:40.520 let's take a minute with this shirts what kind of shirt like that no this hangs out exactly

00:13:45.780 t-shirt so why does a t-shirt need to be folded beyond just sort of beyond one of these i'm not

00:13:52.200 saying military i'm not saying militarized like but just here's a question if it's in a drawer

00:13:58.100 not be wrinkled right and one's on top are you selecting one off the top or are you choosing

00:14:02.100 if so choosing then why are they folded vertically like that okay they need to be full they need to

00:14:08.320 be like books stuff them vertically so you can see what each is right now i personally think

00:14:16.480 i have to go more extreme and build the solution to work for me in my actual life which is i went

00:14:24.580 for a little while with like everything's on hooks on the wall everything's visual i remember

00:14:28.860 nothing's behind anything yeah you're not gonna want to hear it but the biggest tip what reduce

00:14:35.280 inventory you think i haven't done a huge closet purge i have a lot of clothes okay i'm not gonna

00:14:45.020 do you like all of them that's really so here's what i want to do yeah but i've done some major

00:14:50.960 purges right now i think i like everything that's in there pretty much i tried to do a limit to the

00:14:58.040 t-shirts in your mind is there a limit yeah yeah this is what so this happened the other day i go 0.78

00:15:02.660 i'm sick of this shit i can't live like this anymore i i get to have five shirts right because 0.95

00:15:08.100 i go in there i start pulling them out oh this shirt yeah not being able to see it not knowing 0.99

00:15:12.760 it's there i haven't worn it see this thing i only wear the stuff on top so the stuff on top

00:15:16.920 gets washed let's say yeah and then it's worn again so i'm actually working with like a near

00:15:24.320 microscopic collection i'm already living capsule collection yeah yeah four shirts yeah totally

00:15:29.540 and then the other is just something making my drawers stuffed full oh i have a i have a unit

00:15:36.440 right now that i can't wait to throw you know what i'm thinking of doing what going to dress 0.98

00:15:39.720 skew what the fuck is that because i get stopped when something's like what's dress skew you you 1.00

00:15:44.900 remember you were like the the whores uh you were like those sluts closets or whatever you were 1.00

00:15:49.900 like well like whores on a rack whores on a on a hanger no when did i say that what do you mean 1.00

00:15:58.460 okay there's a place you go in there's a rack of clothing a woman a woman here's my 1.00

00:16:05.020 Cindy shop Cindy's whore closet and there's something creepy a little bit about you know 0.91

00:16:12.760 blocks me like do i gotta wash it first yeah they don't because honestly why do they trust us 0.97

00:16:19.300 i don't mean straight off the crotch okay i mean like a t-shirt you know like basically

00:16:25.360 i mean it depends i think i think it's on the business to do it keep meaning go in and go hey

00:16:30.500 if i just bring a pile of clothes on hangers you deal with it yeah how easy is it to get set up

00:16:35.120 and then i now have my crazy towels what does that mean i told you this new system implemented

00:16:45.580 i got navy towels just for me and like you know my partner doesn't have to suffer wondering what 0.96

00:16:50.720 the fuck is going on like that was on the floor one second ago now it's like you're sitting on 0.78

00:16:55.500 it now it's our hand towel like what's going on i'm like those are my crazy towels they're just 0.99

00:16:59.040 i just know what i'm doing with them yeah yeah that's for like i have a towel that's basically

00:17:02.720 for like sitting on the edge of the tub steaming i love that towel that's how it's my good friend 0.98

00:17:07.920 you know i'm a friend like time to steam don't want to put my like ass on the on the cold side 0.97

00:17:14.080 of the tub you know i've got going now i've told you so obviously i have a labeler now that's huge 0.98

00:17:24.000 i have like these two baskets labeled one says like into the office one says like upstairs closet

00:17:29.800 and downstairs i throw shit in there that needs to go to those places wait so i'm downstairs 0.75

00:17:34.740 throughout the day whatever oh this needs to go upstairs instead of taking it upstairs and then 0.98

00:17:38.220 starting to install shelves up there or something put it in the basket in the basket labeled the day

00:17:41.960 take it up yeah pretty incredible you know what else i did socks downstairs by the door in a drawer

00:17:50.220 oh so when you're leaving i don't put my socks on upstairs in the closet and then walk socked

00:17:55.520 down to the shoe area.

00:17:57.260 That's like, I always grab my socks

00:17:58.920 and take them to where the shoes are.

00:18:04.940 We had this thing at my father's house,

00:18:07.000 my father's house,

00:18:08.540 leaving the father's house, okay?

00:18:10.420 My parents' house.

00:18:12.220 This light strip,

00:18:13.080 I mean, this power strip

00:18:14.940 that was going to be

00:18:15.860 what all the tree lights plugged into.

00:18:18.000 Look at this thing.

00:18:18.640 It looks so industrial.

00:18:19.700 It looks like the most trustworthy,

00:18:21.200 overkill thing for tiny, you know, okay?

00:18:25.520 And I look it up because I start looking up, I worry, you know, parents, okay, I just worry

00:18:29.360 for them.

00:18:29.700 So, so I start looking up like, you know, Ken, whatever.

00:18:33.200 And it's like, I see these things and it's like, there have been changes.

00:18:37.540 And they're like, you know, like pre 2010 lighting strips don't have the same safety

00:18:41.800 features, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:18:43.360 I go, this could have killed us in the night.

00:18:45.400 Oh God, that's scary.

00:18:48.040 I went out, I got new, all the whatever, all the whatever, new.

00:18:52.420 and then and then I also got them a label maker one of my favorite things to do ever okay is a

00:18:57.060 label maker and I'm going to label it and say bought in 2025 right on the strip that's smart

00:19:03.420 so that in 2032 you go let's take a look let's take take another look it's like a carabiner you

00:19:10.540 know that concept of how you don't know if it's shattered internally oh no basically like if you

00:19:18.780 don't know where a carabiner came from you can't trust it to hang from a mountain you need it

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00:24:23.520 i've reached another a critical point just bottom rock bottom of phone addiction scrolling

00:24:36.100 and i'm going to take a break in august um and i'm going to do light phone in august so

00:24:46.900 Everyone stay tuned for my light phone.

00:24:49.040 We all remember when we were staying tuned for when you got home.

00:24:51.060 You were going to start your light phone.

00:24:53.440 I know.

00:24:55.460 But here's the thing.

00:24:56.480 It really has been hard because I've been having to peddle these tickets.

00:24:59.360 But starting, I mean, tonight, I don't have any more tickets to peddle.

00:25:03.280 Oh, I know.

00:25:03.940 When you've got to peddle the tickets, this is the whole thing.

00:25:07.260 We're salesmen.

00:25:08.220 So it's like that's why, you know, we've got to get to the next level, Kate,

00:25:11.980 where we've got people doing it for us because it's not safe out there for our minds.

00:25:16.900 okay we got to protect our minds we have to protect the minds the soul and the spirit and it's um

00:25:21.180 so yeah i'm going i'm going light phone i'm just looking up because i thought this might stick in

00:25:25.900 your head that was pretty interesting which was in your brain's not broken it's like there's a

00:25:30.480 quadrant she's got okay red yellow green and blue and it's it's she's talking about big emotions 0.89

00:25:38.060 add people like high emotional stimulation good or bad they don't fucking care okay they have big

00:25:44.980 emotions and so i guess they're drawn to them or whatever and then fun not fun okay so there's 0.93

00:25:52.140 something fun or something not fun something high emotional stimulation low and so that's the 0.96

00:25:56.400 quadrant and it's like not fun high emotional stimulation we will fucking go for it oh wow 0.91

00:26:02.600 we'll take it okay over not fun low emotional stimulation like boring task okay so then you go 0.95

00:26:11.200 oh damn right yeah and then it's like okay what about low emotional stimulation fun it's kind of

00:26:17.620 like okay that sounds kind of like a mildly nice thing and a lot of people don't do enough of that 0.96

00:26:24.160 but you know point is you can get trapped in red okay you get trapped in red okay and so

00:26:30.980 she's like it's all this stuff but it's like and then it's like all this stuff about how we use

00:26:36.100 big emotions to motivate ourselves due to lack of short-term memory and it's like so like shame

00:26:42.180 it's like you have to use these big and shame anxiety anger like the we have to use these big

00:26:48.640 emotions to like motivate yeah that sounds right motivate action because we can't get it the other 0.76

00:26:54.580 way and and then i realized i'm in fucking scotland for that very reason yeah i come to this

00:27:00.460 festival like as a as an enforced you know shame uh stress things like it's like yeah let me go 0.95

00:27:09.040 where where those anyway it's just um but I'm lying there I'm like I'm in another country

00:27:14.280 doing the exact strategy I'm reading about like this is why I'm here yeah yeah but I'm always you

00:27:19.000 know re-diagnosed by every book but but I I did find it interesting well I got really sad because 0.98

00:27:26.000 i was scrolling and it was talking about because i ruminate who doesn't i guess people fucking 0.98

00:27:31.640 don't like that's just the goddamn yeah they just straight up don't it's wild we're talking about 0.98

00:27:36.860 rumination and overthinking as like and like it's actual like physical effects on the brain 0.97

00:27:42.700 is being detrimental i knew you're gonna the hypothalamus like shrinking yeah so sad yeah

00:27:47.500 i was like oh i know but i gotta get off the phone

00:27:50.240 i'm in a new world with the phone stuff right i have you know two phones now because i got a new

00:27:59.340 phone so the old one has become the correspondence phone and it stays downstairs oh i didn't know you

00:28:04.060 were doing my my old system my bad phone system you know i lost my bad phone i don't know where

00:28:08.140 it is except i can't i don't like the not naughty stigmatization it can't be bad phone for me like

00:28:14.600 so it's a little different work phone kind of it's actually more like communication well i call it

00:28:21.260 correspondence so i have a correspondence center which was a chair with my old phone plugged into

00:28:27.260 it hooked up only to wi-fi i'm not getting text messages from non iphone users there

00:28:33.900 so now i've moved it to a little desk it's not a desk it's a bulletin board resting across two

00:28:40.920 things that's another story diy desk making big for me always has been ikea carl b butcher block

00:28:47.060 countertop people put a top two other things and they have a butcher block desk huge trend anyway

00:28:52.020 the phone stays down there it's only on wi-fi i have to walk my ass over to that desk to do any

00:28:57.220 texting and then i have my old computer there which i'm a hacker for figuring out a way to

00:29:03.120 work with despite half the keyboard being gone and point is like chris caught me and he's like

00:29:07.920 what do you mean you're sending an email you're not at your correspondence desk interesting i go

00:29:12.560 over there it's like it's 1910 i have the law office okay and that's where you know the calls

00:29:19.800 come in and i write my letters back to the people and out they go huge

00:29:25.080 well my morning module which is on a little green index card what's your morning module

00:29:36.220 Have I told you about my morning tray yet?

00:29:38.180 No.

00:29:39.020 So I have a tray, okay?

00:29:41.040 It's mint green, and I think I got it at Ikea, but, you know,

00:29:44.360 I have labeled it with my label maker, my P-Touch, my brother P-Touch.

00:29:48.180 Mm-hmm.

00:29:48.900 It says morning.

00:29:51.100 Okay.

00:29:51.380 Okay, it's sitting near the foot of my bed on a little mini dresser.

00:29:56.160 What's on it?

00:29:56.960 Meds, okay?

00:29:57.940 The med that I take every morning.

00:29:59.400 Usually this is chaos that happens sometimes in the morning, okay?

00:30:04.020 I'm like, I do it instinctually, and then I forget if I've done it.

00:30:07.980 And I say, Chris, did I just take my Wellbutrin?

00:30:09.840 And he goes, I don't know, because it's so familiar.

00:30:12.140 I thought you had the little timer thing on it.

00:30:13.800 I do, but I forget about the timer.

00:30:15.660 So the pill gets taken before I leave my room, before I even leave my bed.

00:30:20.600 Got it.

00:30:21.640 I've got a B12, whatever, I forget.

00:30:24.480 Spritz, spritz.

00:30:25.380 I've got a D supplement.

00:30:27.380 Spritz, spritz.

00:30:28.800 I've got a few other, you know, supplements on the tray.

00:30:32.280 And then what else do I have?

00:30:33.360 oh and my journal sits there and my second journal the dream journal oh and now i got a new thing

00:30:38.640 ready so and are you writing in it first thing well i've been a little sloppy with that okay

00:30:46.040 i mean the dream journal yes i mean if i if i have it i remember okay but my upgrade i have a

00:30:54.400 full bottle of mountain valley okay you know i don't drink a lot of water okay i've got mountain

00:30:59.140 valley spring water it sits on the tray and a glass i go people have been doing this for ages

00:31:04.020 a glass and a carafe you can even buy one if you want to be one of those women okay so to take the

00:31:09.740 various supplements i have water ready to go right there i pour it into a glass so i'm not chugging 0.98

00:31:15.700 from yesterday's mountain valley like a piece of shit so that's morning module trying to think if 0.97

00:31:22.080 there's anything oh and then it's like you know meditate you know spiritual whatever you know 0.98

00:31:27.580 question mark i think i have morning pages on there right now it's oh sunshine 15 in the eyeballs 0.97

00:31:33.360 sunshine in the eyes 15 minutes that's a fucking lie i think you're joking me 15 minutes try to 0.91

00:31:39.940 get 15 so got to stack that and i've got an evening module sometimes they're a little overly 0.98

00:31:49.060 ambitious includes tidying up. Do you ever do this at night specifically, like tidy up from

00:31:57.860 the day? Yeah. Well, I found my partner's extremely neat. Wow. Yeah. Which is huge.

00:32:05.540 Mine actually. And I found that, you know, all the cliches are true, right? Waking up

00:32:10.580 and the kitchen is spotless. Unreal. Changes your life. Unbelievable. I mean, I'm so fixated.

00:32:18.940 on these these new improvements so i've got morning tray i've got evening tray i've got

00:32:23.040 out the door tray i think i told you about all this but it didn't stick the first time i guess 0.98

00:32:28.480 so fuck it so yeah so i've got one that says out the door as all the shit that i need to take with 0.99

00:32:34.460 me when i leave includes spf it's like i'm not going out that door without putting on some spf 0.99

00:32:40.000 so should i give because this is like this is like i think pretty huge okay this is like a

00:32:50.840 new invention add invention of mine what so i started doing that let me see if there's anyone's

00:32:56.320 living here so i have downloaded i decided i came up with a concept so like i saw this woman on

00:33:04.420 on instagram okay her technique like oh i'm going downstairs to you know get the coffee whatever

00:33:08.800 and then getting distracted so she's like puts her hand up in the air and that's like like i'm

00:33:12.840 getting coffee and then she goes downstairs she keeps her hand up and that's a reminder right

00:33:16.540 yeah okay because i was experimenting with like okay i'm gonna do that i'm like okay i'm going

00:33:21.860 downstairs to empty the trash and i'll get distracted so it's like i'm like you know 0.99

00:33:25.300 trash trash trash trash trash trash trash right trash trash trash so then of course i had an idea 0.98

00:33:30.660 i could do better than that right what if i downloaded like a reggie watts like like a 0.99

00:33:36.620 looper yeah okay trash trash trash and had my own thoughts reflected back to me in this way

00:33:41.300 so let me see like okay so i was like making it possible to work in this office making it 0.98

00:33:48.080 okay what is so i'm going making it possible to work in this office that was my goal i go

00:33:53.680 because the office was chaos okay so i'm gonna play making it possible to work in this office

00:33:57.420 this is truly like just for me right yeah obviously it sounds psychotic right so i'm like

00:34:01.940 that's the goal okay i'm like that's let's start with the goal okay right so i'm like

00:34:06.200 making it possible to work in this office okay what's the first thing i gotta do

00:34:09.800 trash okay and then i go wait let's see what i did next what i decided on next

00:34:14.400 wait okay so i decided to pick everything up off the floor okay

00:34:21.920 making it possible to work in this office making it possible to work in this office

00:34:27.600 well that'll drive you no it didn't it worked it was heaven on earth okay

00:34:31.560 okay but then i can go see i can pick everything up off the floor okay and then i can add something

00:34:40.320 right so i'd be like you know um i'd be like bring the donation items downstairs like bring the

00:34:50.660 and then i can pop in there okay and i i edit it okay and then i can have the other one lowered

00:34:59.540 down so i just trimmed it okay i can have the other one lowered down so i could a step at a time

00:35:05.700 okay i could just have that on repeat donation okay i did this okay i completely like transformed

00:35:13.260 my office okay and then the really wacko one sorry i do that but i just want to show something like

00:35:17.760 so then like okay you ready yeah like hold on like okay so so it was like i wanted to like

00:35:25.200 change it up a little bit. No, no, no. So then I was like, bring the donation.

00:35:43.420 Okay. I did this. It rocked. Okay. But I can get rid of that. Sometimes I need the original goal

00:35:48.540 to be reminding me bring the donation and then I can bring in a new thing so I did this and then

00:35:55.420 the other morning I did it like a crazy okay okay I know this is a lot okay but wait okay this one

00:36:02.020 I went really far because this is my original experiment remember roles and goals I said I

00:36:05.060 was committed to it yeah and then i'm like i'm an artist i'm uh okay i did that okay

00:36:21.740 and then i was like

00:36:24.220 Goals and rules and rules.

00:36:25.960 Souls, goals and rules.

00:36:27.200 I also have a body.

00:36:28.320 It makes art and also make...

00:36:30.020 No, no.

00:36:30.860 Okay, so I'm going on a walk because my body makes the art.

00:36:40.840 All right, because I was listening to my whoop deciding that I would go to the workout.

00:36:44.940 But, you know, I'd be mindful of my effort.

00:36:46.540 This is my whole new thing, Kate.

00:36:47.720 Mindful of my effort during the workout.

00:36:50.160 I could still go.

00:36:51.000 I can bring it down.

00:36:51.760 I could do 70%.

00:36:52.780 can you believe right right yeah you don't have to go full you don't have to go for me it helps

00:36:59.340 because routine the routine of like you know not resisting to going you know the the whole like

00:37:05.200 the routine is putting your pants on and getting a car the routine isn't working out because like

00:37:09.680 a lot of times the rest will happen naturally now i am someone that will drive to studio city and

00:37:13.960 you know decide it ain't happening and you know go to the hardware store so that's turn away

00:37:18.680 but i put it in the nasal i put it in the nasal cavity i go oh yeah and and you're asking is it

00:37:29.660 the kind of thing you feel immediately whatever and i was like yeah and then i looked i think

00:37:33.780 it's at four to six weeks okay now that's tough of every day 20 minutes well that ain't never 0.71

00:37:38.760 happening fuck so i go at that point too i think my you and like it's like the stackables i was 0.87

00:37:45.480 like when i was laying there doing getting the endospheres i was like okay i'm gonna do this 0.98

00:37:49.740 plus i'm gonna you know plus the probiotic plus the meditation plus the the walking even you know 0.75

00:37:56.800 it's like it's fucking impossible and i keep going cut no i know i know i know i know i know i mean 0.85

00:38:02.700 the stacking can be satisfying and it's like well for me there are certain things that i've decided 0.92

00:38:08.100 certain devices are and this is why i think you need to incorporate more nightly television in

00:38:12.280 routine okay that is standardized oh what are we watching tonight not should we watch a movie okay

00:38:18.420 because that's where the device work happens right right right you see you're sitting there

00:38:23.400 you pop it on you grab the lima lima okay so i i was thinking but i i do always have the fantasy

00:38:32.520 of um i mean for a while i had the higher dose on our couch but you know the couch at this point

00:38:37.200 is a medical center yeah okay higher notes the chief idolizer machine on top of it a bunch of

00:38:45.980 plugs hanging over the side and yeah and then my my basin of supplements on the table yeah and

00:38:53.800 this is like it's funny it's like the center yeah this is how yeah but yeah it really it requires

00:38:59.760 the baseline stack it is the base of the stack is television if i think if you want to do any of the

00:39:07.060 other things no but shank so shank was like you know reduce options and he's like i know you're

00:39:17.740 thinking like whatever because add like we like we like things okay we like he's like reduce options

00:39:23.760 where like they're where they don't you know actually matter to you you know classic like

00:39:27.380 he's like if i go to my closet and there's you know vests and jackets and and okay and i've

00:39:34.540 I've essentially already done this in my life, which is, like, I wear jeans and a T-shirt regularly, and when I dress up, I, and actually, no, I need the, when I dress up, here's what I wear.

00:39:45.220 He has that. 0.80

00:39:46.020 Like, he's like, when I speak, I wear a button-down shirt, and da-da-da, and that's fucking it, and that's not where his creativity goes. 0.98

00:39:52.460 You know what I mean? 0.97

00:39:53.020 I mean, I'll say this.

00:39:54.160 My dad, growing up, and it's no exaggeration, he had 10 of the exact same shirt.

00:39:59.900 it was a blue plaid gap shirt and he wore it every single day and then at one point it was

00:40:06.140 hawaiian he had he had 10 hawaiian shirts i'm not kidding yeah the blue plaid shirt yeah and

00:40:10.560 we we found a photo of him when he's like 10 years old he's wearing the same shirt like it's

00:40:17.520 like the same shirt so it's like and so you know he devoted his life to other things exactly

00:40:29.900 oh by the way by the way huge news guess who's not drinking water in the way one normally would

00:40:35.880 think about it but i read this in shankman add book chugging water okay quick okay just chugging

00:40:44.300 some water and then like doing like you know five push-ups or whatever i don't do push-ups but

00:40:48.540 the equivalent okay dopamine boost and back to back to focus it actually is a recharge wow so

00:40:55.620 that's helped me and i've been doing like some water chugging

00:40:58.260 oh my partner got me the hobonichi last year well here we go so i wrote it maybe three times

00:41:09.560 so i'm going so i have a few ideas for this and some of our punishment yeah so i'm going

00:41:14.380 guess what i'm buying us again yeah for 80 or whatever okay and yeah we're getting the dated

00:41:20.840 one like that i mean you get japanese tomo river paper you got you know there's a lot there's a lot 0.59

00:41:26.560 to it so so i go now we're getting it again and i'm gonna buy it every goddamn year until until

00:41:33.660 we get you know what i mean like no no one's off the hook and then second i'm going an interesting

00:41:39.080 idea and i'm scared i go all right i flip back through it i see i go okay there's a lot of blank

00:41:44.500 here would it be interesting to do a debrief of the year and go in poke around look at the calendar

00:41:51.780 look at my calendar my digital calendar look at look at the past year and fill in things that

00:41:58.100 happened and make a few notes of it now at the end of the year go back in and go oh what was

00:42:03.980 july about can't remember like almost treat it a little bit more like a scrapbook because totally

00:42:10.660 because the gcal i'm forgetting because i write everything in my gcal yeah so yeah talk about

00:42:16.080 sexless i know well that's why so sometimes i take this is my life paper yeah so i filled it

00:42:23.100 in but but i have a new notebook my old notebook statement forgetting forgetting the brand it's

00:42:26.960 not expensive it's some american brand and uh for years i would write it was very diligent

00:42:34.800 and everyday writing what happened for years.

Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - April 07, 2026

Berlant & Novak Remix： ADHD Culture

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