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00:02:35.440 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:36.900 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:02:38.000 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

00:02:42.720 Two untamable intellects.

00:02:44.520 This is our hobby. 0.97

00:02:45.360 This is our hell.

00:02:46.220 This is our naked desire for free products.

00:02:48.500 This is POOG.

00:02:49.920 Today's topic, loosely speaking, the boys.

00:02:53.020 The band.

00:02:54.140 For four ad's years.

00:02:58.920 Hi, babe. 0.99

00:02:59.860 Hi.

00:03:01.460 That's the sweet sound of the automatic blinds.

00:03:04.280 The Hotel Cecilia.

00:03:05.540 Oh, my God.

00:03:06.840 Whoa.

00:03:07.780 The automatic blinds slowly moving up behind my point of gaze

00:03:11.100 is causing me to feel like I was moving.

00:03:15.460 Vertigo?

00:03:15.860 In the other direction.

00:03:16.360 Oh, I know.

00:03:17.260 Literal.

00:03:17.640 Oh, is it raining?

00:03:19.320 I'm sorry.

00:03:19.960 See, I'm on my second cup of coffee.

00:03:21.620 we were talking about when to record Poog and I was like I need to sleep tomorrow I thought

00:03:25.280 maybe I'll wake up at 8 6 45 doll's eyes opening but again that's because I'm on New York I knew

00:03:30.400 it would but wow I knew that would save me I have to well first of all I want to first shout out

00:03:36.540 Elmhurst milk which is the nut milk that I had been recommended I tried I've heard the cashew

00:03:42.940 Elmhurst you know only two ingredients very very clean I heard the cashew Elmhurst was the way to

00:03:48.360 go at my local Air One. They only had the hazelnut. Bought the hazelnut. When I tell you

00:03:52.720 that it's foaming in my Nespresso milk foamer. Really? The foam on it is unbelievable and it's

00:03:59.280 good. And what I'm going to do, I'm back on the coconut milk Arroyo D. Those little pouches,

00:04:04.360 fuck they're good. And guess what? If you mix a little bit of that with the other one, 0.99

00:04:09.760 then you have a coconut explosion and it's really good. Does it taste like coconut? I

00:04:13.280 imagine it does. The Arroyo D is pure coconut. It makes me moan.

00:04:15.780 Something smelling or tasting like coconut is one of the biggest examples of plus or minus.

00:04:21.280 Depends.

00:04:21.780 What do you mean plus or minus?

00:04:23.060 You mean wanting it or not wanting it?

00:04:24.540 Like, I don't want my coconut oil to taste like coconut because I'm trying to use it to make other things, right?

00:04:30.700 Oh, right.

00:04:31.640 I'm not here to live this coconut flavored lifestyle.

00:04:34.000 I love a coconut lifestyle.

00:04:35.640 It depends, I'll say.

00:04:36.640 Of course.

00:04:37.240 Pina coladas, obviously, are huge for me.

00:04:39.600 Well, I'll drop this right now that John and I went to Jamaica impromptu for four nights.

00:04:44.360 Unbelievable.

00:04:44.760 And I was drinking incredible pina coladas every day, of course.

00:04:49.320 And John and I were remarking how we both love coconut so much.

00:04:53.880 Coconut, a coconut cake, a coconut, anything.

00:04:56.860 And that for some people that don't like coconut so much,

00:05:00.060 it's difficult for coconut flavor lovers to be compatible with people.

00:05:04.860 Embrace them as friends and lovers?

00:05:06.320 Yeah.

00:05:06.720 It's hard to embrace them as friends and lovers because coconut,

00:05:09.320 some people, to be ambivalent to the coconut flavoring or even to not like it,

00:05:13.140 really hard for me to

00:05:14.780 even concede. I rarely hear ambivalence.

00:05:17.280 Oh, I hear ambivalence. Like kind of like

00:05:18.800 eh. Although as we all remember from Girl

00:05:21.140 Interrupted,

00:05:22.440 Vanessa Redgrave explaining that

00:05:25.080 ambivalence is not like, I feel nothing.

00:05:27.340 It's not apathy. I don't remember.

00:05:28.580 I feel ambivalent towards it. It's actually

00:05:31.280 ambivalent, pulling

00:05:32.800 violently in two directions. 1.00

00:05:35.760 Oh, fuck. Do you remember that? 1.00

00:05:37.240 No, I don't. It was key. That is what ambivalence

00:05:39.340 is? You know, if you can't,

00:05:40.840 i mean what something comes to mean you know sure right right but the language if you're being pulled

00:05:46.560 equally in two directions arguably you are kind of in this stasis in the middle inert unmoving

00:05:52.260 but it's not the same as regular not moving it's it's alive well that by the way that is the true

00:05:59.020 i have a dear friend who was remarking about you know it's like oh i can't make my mind right

00:06:05.680 what i relate to is like do i want this or not it's not oh i don't know i'm kind of in the middle

00:06:10.800 It's I 100% don't and I 100% do.

00:06:14.200 And that sounds like what you're describing.

00:06:15.180 Well, that's exactly what we're talking about.

00:06:16.540 I know.

00:06:17.140 Right?

00:06:19.240 The gut.

00:06:20.500 Go with your gut.

00:06:21.800 It's divided into, have you heard of duality? 1.00

00:06:24.440 Get the fuck out. 0.99

00:06:25.240 You heard of learning to live in the gray? 1.00

00:06:26.560 It's so laughable.

00:06:27.480 Whose gut?

00:06:28.000 People have, my gut.

00:06:28.860 I think people, well, this is why I told you,

00:06:31.200 I have another dear friend who has a pendulum.

00:06:33.260 Did I tell you about this?

00:06:33.900 I have a lot of information about that.

00:06:35.980 So I'll tell you about pendulums in a minute.

00:06:37.360 Okay.

00:06:37.720 Talk to me about it.

00:06:38.380 Explain it for people who maybe who don't know what a pendulum is.

00:06:41.160 Oh, they know.

00:06:43.260 It's an object hanging at the end of a string or a chain.

00:06:47.920 And sometimes it's a crystal, sometimes it's a rock, sometimes it's a stone, sometimes it's a shell.

00:06:53.340 And you dangle it from one hand and you may ask it questions.

00:06:58.240 You may establish a relationship with a pendulum.

00:07:00.620 Okay, it's a divination tool.

00:07:01.880 Let's say it like that way.

00:07:02.980 So it can be considered a mere extension of your body, your subconscious,

00:07:06.220 or you can choose to feel that it's coming out of elsewhere, right?

00:07:11.340 Or they're all one and the same because you're part of the one.

00:07:13.740 But you might establish a kind of language with it where you decide, you know,

00:07:16.900 my name is Jacqueline, okay?

00:07:18.400 And it starts spinning clockwise.

00:07:20.340 You know, my name is Dunkel R. Fredman, okay?

00:07:23.240 Yeah, yeah.

00:07:24.100 It starts spinning left.

00:07:25.320 Okay, that means, you know, no, essentially, whatever.

00:07:28.000 Or I'm at peace and it starts sort of scrambling in the middle,

00:07:32.620 you know, not going either way or goes dead still.

00:07:35.000 It could also be used like in Debra King energy healing courses like to check people's chakras.

00:07:41.820 So they'd lay down on the table and she'd hold the pendulum over, okay? 0.57

00:07:45.700 And it would pick up the energy of the spinning wheel of the chakra or like, you know, like they get to like the second chakra and that shit's dead still, okay? 0.59

00:07:53.760 And they're like, yeah, it's shut down or it's running counterclockwise, which is like a thing.

00:07:58.320 Like the chakra is not only just shut down and small, but it's like, you know, circling negative spiral.

00:08:05.000 And so they would do things like tone over the chakra, like, okay, to get the chakra into the vibration.

00:08:15.700 And it'd be like C note for chakra one and like D for chakra two, whatever.

00:08:19.420 But like, oh, and like the idea was like some of them are, again, like another sort of tool that like, if you're like a master healer, you just like look at the chakra and be like, okay, through direct intentionality.

00:08:31.020 but early days when you're learning and you have less confidence or whatever this is just all in

00:08:38.360 kind of language of this idea whether you believe it in or not it's like yeah use the tool later

00:08:44.300 the tool might become irrelevant you know what i mean well you can imagine for me someone crushed

00:08:48.800 by uncertainty you know you can imagine a tool like that for me is it's it's a slippery slope

00:08:54.020 my friend who has one who she's very it's not okay okay i think because she has a very close

00:08:59.340 relationship with her pendulum she like always has it in her pocket always and she will do little

00:09:04.520 things from you know dinner reservation help all the way to like you know are you and this person 0.97

00:09:10.580 meant to be together whatever the fuck it sounds like you're looking for a magic stone yeah like 0.67

00:09:15.520 you're looking for a certainty stone a pendulum i know i just heard about a yes no machine yes no 0.98

00:09:20.200 machine i mean you're you're you know certainty at all looking for god in all the wrong places

00:09:25.280 Yeah, it feels like it, dare I tap into my own sense of wisdom, but my sense is no tool is inherently good or bad or meant for anyone or everyone.

00:09:36.840 Right.

00:09:37.240 Imagine you could create yourself, you know, like someone can be a hairdresser and they're doing like work on your top four chakras and like whether they, and like they might say like, I can't do it without giving you a haircut.

00:09:47.380 The woman who cuts my hair is a Reiki master.

00:09:49.060 Yeah. 1.00

00:09:49.400 Zap.

00:09:49.920 Now you're supposed to ask for permission to do any healing work.

00:09:53.040 I had someone say, can I enter your force field?

00:09:54.680 Or can I enter your energy field?

00:09:56.360 And I go, mm-hmm. 0.98

00:09:57.220 Don't let the dork hit you on the way out. 0.70

00:09:59.000 Have I told you about the time I overheard at this crystal shop slash healing place in Chicago. 0.95

00:10:06.700 I was in there.

00:10:07.540 And I went in and there was a crystal bar, a.k.a. bowls of crystals.

00:10:12.960 And the kind of idea I was with at the time was that you move your hand across it

00:10:17.620 and you stop where you feel compelled to stop or you feel energy, whatever.

00:10:20.400 Engaging with the mystery, fantastic.

00:10:23.040 And then there are these women in the store who are like the healers who work in the back,

00:10:27.560 you know, work in the cash register and they do healing in the back, you know? 0.99

00:10:30.880 Love it. 1.00

00:10:31.400 And I do a session with one woman. 0.69

00:10:33.480 She does a lot of sound stuff with the singing bowls.

00:10:36.520 And she says that like, my energy field really reacted to that, which makes sense.

00:10:39.960 I mean, can you feel the note going over your stomach?

00:10:42.440 By the way, I told you I have a singing bowl person for us.

00:10:45.700 Yeah.

00:10:46.260 And when you say that, you mean the person who does the singing bowl that we're going

00:10:50.780 to go to their studio and lie there?

00:10:52.180 Yeah.

00:10:52.740 Never done it.

00:10:53.200 True question.

00:10:54.700 If sound is sound and music is music, then is a recording of a singing bowl not the same?

00:11:00.640 Because honestly, it seems like it actually might be.

00:11:03.900 Like, sound is sound.

00:11:05.260 Vibration is vibration.

00:11:06.560 I mean, I think then you just get into the aura of the presence of the real thing.

00:11:10.840 Well, I knew you were going to not say yeah.

00:11:13.840 The aura of the real.

00:11:14.580 Yeah.

00:11:15.280 But wait, wait, wait.

00:11:16.180 Don't go away.

00:11:16.800 Hold on.

00:11:17.040 Okay, I'm here.

00:11:17.660 Something's falling away for you.

00:11:19.100 I was distracted.

00:11:19.320 I was looking at the rain

00:11:20.420 because the rain just started to drizzle

00:11:22.460 and I was moved by it continuing.

00:11:25.060 Yeah, when the rain comes in, I mean.

00:11:26.820 Because by the way,

00:11:27.580 I've been sitting here going,

00:11:29.280 I was going to go on a walk

00:11:30.160 and I'm like, well, it looks like I can't.

00:11:31.860 Oh no.

00:11:32.900 Okay, keep going.

00:11:33.980 Maybe today I'll start tracing for the first time.

00:11:35.560 I've been hearing about the drama

00:11:36.060 of the walk you've been planning for hours.

00:11:38.320 All morning.

00:11:40.000 When you wake up at 6.45,

00:11:41.940 9.30 is practically dinner time.

00:11:43.940 Yeah, I know.

00:11:44.840 And also,

00:11:46.200 did you say something about Tracy or did I?

00:11:47.860 I did.

00:11:48.200 I said, well, I won't be going on a walk.

00:11:49.940 Maybe it's an opportunity to do Tracy.

00:11:51.100 Maybe today's my inaugural Tracy Day.

00:11:52.920 See, there it is again.

00:11:54.020 It's about narrative and storytelling and certainty.

00:11:59.460 Okay, the walk wasn't meant to be.

00:12:01.260 The rain means that today was the Tracy inauguration.

00:12:04.980 It literally is serving up for me.

00:12:07.620 I'm not saying that's negative.

00:12:08.860 I'm just, it's become something we've been chatting about in text.

00:12:11.740 You did something this morning where I was like, you were like, well, no, but what's insane is that.

00:12:16.760 Yeah, I know.

00:12:17.580 because then it's something that's not insane and it's like I know and you wanted it to be insane

00:12:21.360 so that it would mean like you know you're meant to do something or not or whatever like oh wait

00:12:25.980 I just want to tell you about the ladies in the store okay sorry go and then remind me to say 1.00

00:12:29.060 something about the burdock trial okay keep going so I get worked on by one lady who was fantastic 0.98

00:12:35.920 she she told me to get a copper ball which I did to roll under my feet to pull me into the earth

00:12:41.320 she also was like talking about like because like going on stage and like the audience comedy

00:12:45.640 audiences they're like drunk and they're like they're down in chakra one one two

00:12:50.400 you know what I mean and like and like I don't know almost like how do you bridge the gap

00:12:57.540 I had someone send me I was actually trying to find it I had someone send me like a warning

00:13:01.920 kind of on Instagram when I started doing my show in New York I mean like lovingly was like

00:13:06.500 careful she was like you're giving a lot of yourself out there and like she just sent me

00:13:12.940 some like casual some like gentle warning do your energy maintenance I was like don't talk about my

00:13:18.000 crowd that way oh well yeah and also I do think there's something to like energy hygiene or

00:13:24.020 whatever that I find kind of compelling like you know I had to realize that I thought I was okay

00:13:29.020 okay I want to just say the one thing about the lady and then I want to say the thing about throwing

00:13:32.720 your energy out into the world okay help me no help me because I'm reconsidering once again

00:13:37.580 ADD medication I'm like there's must have been advancements in the last 10 years

00:13:41.240 okay I'm like maybe it's time maybe it's time I know um so this one lady I heard kind of being

00:13:49.360 like whatever about her skills a healer versus like the other lady in the shop and I was like 0.97

00:13:54.220 I actually prefer the other lady in the shop and the one who worked for me and was fabulous because 1.00

00:13:57.780 I didn't hear the ego that I heard the cash register from this one okay literally she goes 1.00

00:14:03.440 she's like some healers like they do this and they do that whatever however she described you

00:14:07.180 know the others where I just like to get in there fix it and get out wow yeah right I was like and

00:14:13.020 let me guess you leave the dust of a thousand egos with you yeah yeah like the person who acts

00:14:18.940 like everyone does it differently but I just do it you know I just do it the best yeah yeah come on

00:14:23.900 and then the whole thing with these healers is that they have to replenish right like if they're

00:14:29.160 like not at the master level yet right like these early like in their process intuitives you know

00:14:34.660 they don't manage their own energy they don't look after themselves they just run energy through

00:14:37.980 them and into the client because they're trying to do it so good and whatever and then they get

00:14:41.820 depleted and they get sick so there's this like story with deborah king where she was like

00:14:45.700 she for the first time was doing a live streaming and i like tuned in this like live streaming

00:14:50.300 healing workshop fun and she was putting it out to the live streamers and so she did this thing 0.97

00:14:55.940 she normally does where she builds this sort of energy template around the the workshop right

00:15:00.440 usually in the room 0.95

00:15:01.460 that people are all in

00:15:02.420 but this time

00:15:03.580 it was like

00:15:03.960 okay it has to go out

00:15:04.780 globally to

00:15:05.620 you know

00:15:06.740 all the students

00:15:07.280 everywhere who

00:15:08.160 you know

00:15:09.120 so she essentially 1.00

00:15:09.740 like expanded her field 1.00

00:15:11.460 around the earth 0.92

00:15:12.180 okay

00:15:13.180 and then was like 1.00

00:15:13.760 knocked on her fucking ass 1.00

00:15:15.440 after 1.00

00:15:16.220 and she had to learn

00:15:18.000 like

00:15:18.240 oh cool 1.00

00:15:19.200 like her shit was like 1.00

00:15:20.000 flying out in like 1.00

00:15:20.840 the bardo 0.78

00:15:21.520 like it was like 1.00

00:15:22.340 like her energy field

00:15:24.400 was just like

00:15:24.980 a net

00:15:25.520 and so then

00:15:26.160 she had to learn to

00:15:27.320 if she's gonna do 1.00

00:15:28.560 the live stream thing

00:15:29.320 to like

00:15:29.720 focus the template more like no it goes directly from my computer to that person's computer and

00:15:34.600 this one she didn't say that but this is my interpretation i know i still have trouble

00:15:38.420 wrapping my head around because i've done it but the the energy workers that do it on zoom and all

00:15:44.080 that give it to me baby because you're not alone and then and then we'll talk about it but tell me

00:15:47.760 explain to me so let's hear the natural doubter believer well i remember here's the thing this

00:15:52.900 mean psychic i've been to a couple times yeah last time i went to him was years and years ago 1.00

00:15:58.240 he's like a fucking asshole 1.00

00:16:00.960 but he's right 1.00

00:16:01.740 but he's so harsh

00:16:03.280 it's like really brutal

00:16:05.280 and he

00:16:06.560 I saw him once in person

00:16:07.860 I mean this is almost 10 years ago

00:16:09.380 that I saw him in person

00:16:10.160 first of all

00:16:11.360 he told me that he told

00:16:12.400 Princess Diana

00:16:12.900 she was going to die 1.00

00:16:13.680 that's always a good sign

00:16:15.840 when he lists his credits

00:16:18.380 for successful death predictions

00:16:19.860 I remember he was like 0.78

00:16:21.420 I grabbed her thighs

00:16:23.660 and I told her to get out 1.00

00:16:24.880 she was going to die here 0.50

00:16:25.900 he said thighs 0.99

00:16:26.540 yeah he was sexual 0.83

00:16:27.620 for sure 0.99

00:16:28.240 No, but he said thighs about, 1.00

00:16:29.300 he grabbed Princess Diana's thighs. 1.00

00:16:31.520 Grabbed her by the thighs.

00:16:33.300 He said he gripped her by the legs. 0.62

00:16:34.760 By her, no, he said thighs.

00:16:35.500 How could he even see her thighs? 1.00

00:16:36.300 I gripped her by the thighs.

00:16:37.080 He was with her in person.

00:16:38.140 No, right.

00:16:38.600 I just mean like- 0.99

00:16:39.140 Because she's so thin. 1.00

00:16:39.960 Was she in a skirt suit? 0.98

00:16:42.440 Yeah, I guess so. 1.00

00:16:43.380 To touch a princess's knees.

00:16:44.080 He was sitting across from her,

00:16:45.340 grabbed her by the thighs and said, 1.00

00:16:46.640 get the fuck out of here. 1.00

00:16:47.780 You're going to die here. 1.00

00:16:49.260 Okay. 0.97

00:16:49.520 I was like, interesting.

00:16:51.260 And here was the British monarchy? 0.98

00:16:53.040 Yeah, I guess he was at the freaking palace. 0.96

00:16:55.400 And then he told me, he was like, 0.95

00:16:57.120 oh yeah I don't have to be

00:16:58.600 because I remember at the time

00:16:59.640 he was like

00:17:00.200 I could read you on the phone

00:17:01.900 and I was like

00:17:02.260 the phone

00:17:02.800 he was like

00:17:03.280 I can get a name

00:17:05.440 in an envelope

00:17:06.000 and I can write a letter

00:17:07.520 knowing nothing

00:17:08.260 about that person

00:17:09.100 and just send the letter back

00:17:11.060 it's funny because

00:17:12.740 I don't doubt

00:17:14.380 that someone

00:17:14.880 can have that skill

00:17:16.100 okay

00:17:16.760 or gift

00:17:17.220 or combo

00:17:17.900 but he was an egomaniac 0.72

00:17:19.220 I mean clearly 0.87

00:17:19.880 but the egomaniac

00:17:21.320 no he was

00:17:21.760 he was

00:17:22.160 suggests to me

00:17:23.180 wild

00:17:23.880 those gifts 0.60

00:17:25.220 those gifts are gonna leave

00:17:27.500 No.

00:17:28.820 This is a thing.

00:17:29.900 This is a thing.

00:17:30.520 This is a real thing I've heard about.

00:17:31.640 Okay.

00:17:31.980 Oh my God.

00:17:32.700 Which is if it falls out of the light.

00:17:34.640 Okay.

00:17:34.940 If you let ego in too hard, the gifts can leave. 1.00

00:17:38.300 Fuck. 1.00

00:17:39.340 And you know, you must be humble about your gift. 1.00

00:17:42.100 And I don't think that means like, I don't personally believe I've heard people say like,

00:17:47.620 I don't think people should charge for that kind of work, like spiritual related work.

00:17:52.460 I disagree.

00:17:53.360 I think you pay people for their time.

00:17:54.900 Yeah.

00:17:55.180 You're paying people for their time.

00:17:55.980 Absolutely. I mean, I'm talking about labor. I mean, the force field, if you're laid out

00:18:01.440 because you're doing so much energy work. Right. Although they're kind of like,

00:18:06.940 if they're going to go pro, they actually have to learn to manage that.

00:18:10.320 Well, that's the thing. How many appointments can you do?

00:18:12.460 You ever like go into someone and then there's someone coming out and you're like, wait,

00:18:16.160 there's no time in between. Like you're going straight from them to me. You're not taking

00:18:19.700 45 minutes to lay down. No, I think that's like...

00:18:23.640 You know, some people I've worked with that I think are excellent will say, we need to reschedule because I don't believe I'm depleted or I'm sick or I'm whatever.

00:18:35.000 And I'm like, thank you.

00:18:37.280 Absolutely.

00:18:39.280 That's cool.

00:18:40.780 So the remote, okay, the remote work, because I've pitched energy healers to friends.

00:18:48.440 Yeah.

00:18:48.700 And I say, don't worry, you don't even have to leave your house, okay?

00:18:51.660 They don't even have to look at you.

00:18:52.660 You could just get on the phone, you know, and it's like this belief level.

00:18:57.800 This is what I find interesting.

00:18:58.960 It's like the believer doubter, right? 0.98

00:19:01.220 We all come up with our metaphysical rules for what makes sense to us. 0.97

00:19:04.320 So I think for you, you kind of, and it's, it feels like you to me.

00:19:08.580 You're like, well, no, it's being in the presence of the singing bowl teacher.

00:19:11.560 Like you kind of believe it like between like chakras one and three there.

00:19:15.040 I say, okay, one to four, like almost like,

00:19:17.720 because those are the ones sort of more connected to the physical.

00:19:20.440 Yeah, I believe in the theater of the thing.

00:19:21.960 I don't even know if it's the theater.

00:19:23.640 I mean, it might be the theater.

00:19:25.720 You know, anything can be theater.

00:19:27.980 I think like, okay. 1.00

00:19:29.980 So for me, it's sort of like, if the shit's real, the shit's real. 1.00

00:19:34.100 Okay. 0.99

00:19:34.800 And if on the level at which something like radical and instantaneous, like work is being

00:19:43.040 done, time is being collapsed and space is being collapsed.

00:19:46.260 Okay.

00:19:46.600 Or if anything, space is being collapsed.

00:19:48.120 so it's like if you can't do it at a thousand you know at three thousand miles why can you do it at

00:19:54.460 one foot right totally okay i'm not necessarily saying i believe this i'm just saying this is a

00:20:01.640 conception i have that i've entertained which is like if you're only able to do it at one foot

00:20:08.480 it's because you're you are just dumping energy directly from your personal field

00:20:13.100 to them.

00:20:14.380 Do you see what I'm saying?

00:20:15.440 You're like scooping up

00:20:16.480 some energy from the earth

00:20:17.660 under your feet

00:20:18.360 and just hauling it

00:20:19.300 onto the person.

00:20:20.700 It's relatively more physical

00:20:22.420 if it's like,

00:20:24.700 like I'm like,

00:20:25.200 it's like lower.

00:20:26.180 No, no, I see what you're saying.

00:20:27.720 The Zoom healing 0.65

00:20:28.500 is the highest form.

00:20:34.980 I mean, I guess I am.

00:20:37.140 I guess I am.

00:20:38.220 I love that.

00:20:38.940 You've presented a good case.

00:20:40.760 God, meet salesman.

00:20:41.740 Okay, I really want to,

00:20:42.860 I really want to tell you a story.

00:20:45.440 Great.

00:20:45.940 Listen,

00:20:46.720 listen,

00:20:47.680 as I told you,

00:20:48.660 John early and I went to Jamaica very last minute impromptu.

00:20:53.060 I went to New York thinking I was coming right back to LA and basically just

00:20:56.780 convinced John to go on this vacation.

00:21:00.160 Yeah.

00:21:00.480 And I just want to say that four nights might as well be seven.

00:21:04.420 Okay.

00:21:04.660 Well that's,

00:21:05.160 that's big news for you because you've been huge news for me.

00:21:08.780 You've been like afraid.

00:21:09.620 And particularly here's,

00:21:10.660 here's what I'll say.

00:21:11.240 It's all about the nature of the vacation,

00:21:12.860 but this was a true resort.

00:21:15.520 I mean, didn't leave the grounds, right?

00:21:17.320 This was like, and tropical resort vacation,

00:21:21.360 four nights is actually seven.

00:21:23.620 And I'll say it again, because-

00:21:25.340 Oh my God, you know what?

00:21:26.020 I feel like it's coming.

00:21:27.080 Mushrooms the whole time.

00:21:28.160 Because I was actually going to say,

00:21:30.100 because by the way, I said to John,

00:21:32.000 maybe six times,

00:21:33.560 I'm glad we're not staying for five.

00:21:35.960 I said it so many times.

00:21:37.000 Exactly.

00:21:37.820 You were-

00:21:38.620 I was like, don't you think four is actually perfect?

00:21:41.380 Because I remember I said to him, another day of lounging by the beach.

00:21:45.340 Did he clock and acknowledge?

00:21:45.820 Yes, yes.

00:21:46.440 I was like, another day of-

00:21:47.320 Did he laugh at it?

00:21:48.180 Yeah, he laughed.

00:21:48.740 He laughed.

00:21:49.120 But he also agreed because I was like, another day of lounging with the pina coladas on the

00:21:53.180 beach.

00:21:53.520 Like, no.

00:21:55.180 It'd be too much.

00:21:56.140 I got to get back to work.

00:21:57.160 Yeah.

00:21:57.400 I really, really couldn't.

00:22:00.340 I mean, sure.

00:22:01.640 I just think like if the game is to make whatever you chose be perfect, you'd be capable of

00:22:08.420 doing that.

00:22:08.860 so if you were forced

00:22:10.220 to have been on that trip

00:22:11.340 for seven days

00:22:12.020 I don't think you'd be going

00:22:13.740 you know this is too much

00:22:14.640 I don't think you'd be going

00:22:16.280 this is too much

00:22:16.740 I think you'd be going

00:22:17.380 the great thing

00:22:18.200 about when you do seven

00:22:19.180 is you get there

00:22:20.800 and you do the pina colada

00:22:21.740 you do the grass

00:22:22.280 and by day four

00:22:23.500 this is you on the next trip

00:22:25.340 this is you

00:22:26.080 because having had done

00:22:27.540 this previous rationalization

00:22:28.560 and it's true

00:22:29.260 when you get to day four

00:22:30.220 you go I get it

00:22:30.840 pina colada on the beach

00:22:31.720 then that lays the base

00:22:34.920 where now you actually

00:22:36.000 feel comfortable

00:22:37.400 leaving the grounds

00:22:38.100 for a night to even go to the restaurant someone recommended locally or go on a single hike whatever

00:22:43.540 I've been called out and you're correct but wait I'm not at the story so here's the thing so we go

00:22:49.480 to we're in Jamaica it's you know I mean I went to Jamaica but really I went to a resort you know

00:22:55.160 I mean you're like I was in the grounds right for a night yes yes unbelievable me hesitant to say

00:23:00.560 where it was because they didn't give me a discount I'm like you're not getting the on air

00:23:05.160 Well I mean that's the whole thing

00:23:07.020 Advertisement without the rate reduction

00:23:09.060 Sweetie

00:23:09.980 That's the whole thing

00:23:10.840 By the way here I go dropping

00:23:12.440 I went from Jamaica back to New York for a night

00:23:14.920 Had a gorgeous day at the Ludlow

00:23:16.700 And by the way going home to the Ludlow

00:23:19.480 It's like going home

00:23:20.580 Home to the Ludlow

00:23:21.980 Home to the Ludlow always

00:23:23.440 It was my first time staying in a queen loft by the way

00:23:26.900 Just one night

00:23:27.640 Just one night to make it okay

00:23:30.620 I stayed at the Ludlow for basically a month

00:23:34.180 in a really, really tiny room, okay?

00:23:37.860 Still loved it.

00:23:38.760 Would sigh with delight every night going to sleep. 1.00

00:23:40.900 This, I have to say, holy shit. 0.99

00:23:43.100 The loft is quite large. 0.99

00:23:44.800 And then in the bathroom,

00:23:46.020 separate dedicated tub with a window view out.

00:23:49.080 I was on a high floor.

00:23:50.160 So you know, it's really interesting.

00:23:51.660 I have a huge tip for the listener

00:23:53.120 if they go to Ludlow.

00:23:54.380 Are you ready for this?

00:23:55.140 Yeah.

00:23:55.940 So when I was there,

00:23:57.000 I stayed in, I think, the Studio Queen, right?

00:24:00.020 Yeah, that's what I was living in.

00:24:01.220 I'm pretty sure it was the Studio Queen.

00:24:02.280 and it's just it feels like the most just romantic almost like boarding house in the sense of I mean

00:24:11.280 like Joe goes to New York little women okay I mean in the sense of like it doesn't look like

00:24:16.920 a hotel in there it looks like a lovely bedroom exactly it is romantic to me yeah no no the 0.88

00:24:22.960 sconces alone yeah the sconces the lighting it's like it's like a normal bed like like it's wooden

00:24:27.440 four-poster bed. It's not like bolted into the wall and everything's like bolted into the wall.

00:24:33.160 So it feels like you're in this like dreamy, modest. It's fantastic, right? Now, the room

00:24:40.120 below the Studio Queen, are you ready for this? So I forget what it's called. It's like-

00:24:46.000 Studio Mini.

00:24:46.680 Yeah, maybe that's what it is because it's not the one with the single beds or whatever.

00:24:50.540 That room does have a bathtub in front of a window. 0.93

00:24:53.780 Well, there it fucking is because I've stayed in the mini with a bathtub. 0.98

00:24:57.400 Yep. 0.98

00:24:57.960 And I'll say, and I have something to say, bathroom at a hotel defines the experience.

00:25:04.140 And I'll say it one more time.

00:25:05.420 The bathroom is the room.

00:25:07.880 The bathroom is the room.

00:25:08.800 That is everything.

00:25:09.780 And that's what the Ludlow has in spades, the gorgeous bathrooms.

00:25:12.600 And yes, I stayed in a mini, very small, well-appointed, gorgeous.

00:25:16.820 And then you're in a bathtub with a window.

00:25:20.740 I love when you say well-appointed.

00:25:22.220 And you go for it and use the language.

00:25:25.880 Okay, but that's a really good tip.

00:25:27.540 And then I'll just say, so home to the Ludlow.

00:25:29.580 I get into the Queen Loft.

00:25:31.560 Loved it.

00:25:32.460 Beautiful.

00:25:33.400 And I order, I did not get the burger.

00:25:36.280 What I got was my other favorite thing on the menu,

00:25:39.100 which is the Sunchoke Kale Salad with Chicken.

00:25:41.700 Interesting.

00:25:42.920 You would want something with a Sunchoke. 0.98

00:25:45.380 I mean, your name might as well be Sunchoke.

00:25:47.380 It's like if Caperland was an item in a warm salad,

00:25:50.980 what would she be? 0.83

00:25:52.080 Sunchokes. 0.99

00:25:52.640 Yeah, because I had artichokes. 0.98

00:25:53.800 My mom would serve artichokes constantly. 0.79

00:25:56.000 In an artichoke-loving household? 0.98

00:25:57.320 Yes.

00:25:58.240 Artichoke was significant, I feel like, in my home.

00:26:01.680 Not, she did not, she, I don't know, she did not.

00:26:05.380 Like, I'm just referring to the farm-aid of the house.

00:26:07.740 Like, my mother.

00:26:09.640 Like, I'm just like, it wasn't the artichoke.

00:26:12.920 It wasn't the artichoke with a thing of butter, but I feel like artichokes.

00:26:16.200 Oh, yes.

00:26:16.440 I was served the full, like, my father, my mother, and I, each with a huge artichoke.

00:26:21.660 Eloise and her artichoke.

00:26:23.680 And the leaves piling up.

00:26:24.940 I mean, that was,

00:26:25.980 that's such an image of my childhood.

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00:30:06.860 Wait, really back to the Ludlow

00:30:15.160 Yes, no, I'm not done

00:30:16.000 So you got your sunchoke back home at the Ludlow

00:30:18.340 I took a gorgeous bath looking out over the city

00:30:20.300 In my robe, moaning, eating the sunchoke salad

00:30:22.820 I just was like, this is

00:30:24.820 It's hard to leave

00:30:26.860 Did you eat the salad in the bathtub?

00:30:28.400 Eat the salad in the bathtub? No

00:30:29.640 You heard me

00:30:30.980 Because you know I'm into that sort of thing at times

00:30:33.780 I ate it on the bed and I even...

00:30:35.580 Eating on the bed, eating on the bed.

00:30:36.920 I don't know if I dropped all of the photos

00:30:38.420 that I had from staying at San Francisco,

00:30:40.160 the proper at San Francisco,

00:30:41.300 which is one of my absolute favorite experiences.

00:30:43.260 Oh, wow.

00:30:43.860 I've never stayed at a proper.

00:30:45.240 You should, San Fran, I would highly recommend.

00:30:48.000 And I want to try them all,

00:30:49.120 but I literally will never probably try the one in Austin

00:30:52.140 because I will never not do what I can

00:30:55.400 to get to the Hotel St. Cecilia.

00:30:57.400 And look, I told them I wouldn't hide the fact,

00:30:59.740 the existence of the hotel

00:31:00.540 because they deserve the recognition.

00:31:03.440 Yes, I remain terrified.

00:31:04.600 The only thing I can be at pieces is that, I don't know, 1.00

00:31:07.780 how many pooghags can roll through Austin at a given time. 1.00

00:31:11.420 So last time I was here, it was ecstasy. 1.00

00:31:14.380 They have this turkey club that I was getting by the pool.

00:31:17.400 Okay, the espresso over ice is pristine.

00:31:20.660 And I get here and I'm like, I wonder if Cassie's still there.

00:31:24.320 Okay, a woman who works here named Cassie who just,

00:31:27.720 I just remember the words like Nobel Peace Prize coming to mind 0.89

00:31:31.400 when I thought about her service. 0.97

00:31:32.580 okay when people understand customer service yeah such a fucking degree customer service 0.85

00:31:37.640 not even the word hospitality you know there are people who get it and then there are people who 0.86

00:31:43.500 fake get it it's like literally the difference between it's souvenir tiger versus tiger okay

00:31:48.120 it's doing an impression of an impression versus like organically the thing okay having the eye

00:31:54.020 to adapt in the moment there is no one true choice there's no one thing where it's better 0.96

00:31:59.520 for them to do this or this no it's having the fucking hospitality gift to make the right choice

00:32:06.700 so I'm thinking about I'm like I wonder if she's still there I hope she is by the way a lot of the 0.94

00:32:10.440 people I recognized were still here and I think that's a good sign absolutely that the people

00:32:14.020 like it enough so who knows but I go in and I'm like there's no way she's gonna remember me I

00:32:19.340 just go like I go Cassie okay coming in the first morning okay she's like yeah hey how are you okay

00:32:26.520 and I'm like gonna order she's like espressos rocks no yeah you're yeah just now okay I could

00:32:35.620 write a paper about yeah okay and and I want to even be dead clear she didn't do espresso rocks

00:32:42.040 she didn't perform the fact of her own knowledge as though it was so let's cut back to I'm in New

00:32:48.740 york two summers ago on my daily trek to the theater okay on day two in a cafe they start

00:32:57.380 making my drink they see me you'll recall wrong dead wrong oh right the wrong order but that you

00:33:03.020 and then i went to correct and then someone shushed in the back and said no no that's not

00:33:07.660 the drink and still sent out the wrong drink yeah okay so let's just compare to that referencing an

00:33:11.320 old poog episode dig through the archives that you have to okay okay and it wasn't about showing

00:33:17.100 off that she knew it. And even better, I didn't even feel pressured, which can happen, to get the 0.98

00:33:21.580 regular order when maybe this time I want something else. Of course, you don't want to break the

00:33:25.980 report. It's like, it's so cool that they remember. You're like the usual and you just want to have

00:33:29.660 the usual experience. So it wasn't like... Oh, and that will lengthen your life. And that will

00:33:34.660 lengthen your life. And I will say that Cassie there, she's going to live to be 104. Yeah.

00:33:38.920 Because that will lengthen your life. Those kinds of interactions. And I sent you some

00:33:42.640 fucking interview about this 0.99

00:33:43.760 but it's like 0.99

00:33:44.260 but this is huge

00:33:46.100 and everyone has to hear it

00:33:47.380 that one of the

00:33:48.040 oh that rapport adds years

00:33:49.160 yeah rapport adds years

00:33:50.320 let's say

00:33:50.740 one of the major

00:33:52.840 things that they can

00:33:54.600 look to

00:33:55.640 as

00:33:56.720 lengthening one's life

00:33:58.340 adding longevity

00:33:59.040 to one's life

00:33:59.720 it's not

00:34:00.500 diet

00:34:00.960 it's not exercise

00:34:02.280 it's community

00:34:03.300 and by the way

00:34:03.960 it's positive social interactions

00:34:05.840 and they're not even talking

00:34:07.000 about deep friendships

00:34:07.760 and family

00:34:08.300 I repeat

00:34:08.840 they're not talking about

00:34:09.900 friendships and family

00:34:10.560 they are talking about

00:34:12.000 or lover

00:34:12.360 And they even say the conversation with the barista, feeling connected to people in that way, that adds longevity. It's not about your relationships, which, you know, is murky territory involves a lot. They're talking about those daily interactions, those feelings of rapport with people around you.

00:34:34.060 That is what adds years.

00:34:36.340 So Cassie at the hotel, she'll live to be 109.

00:34:41.380 I just added a few years to the life expectancy.

00:34:43.860 No, I know.

00:34:44.280 Because she has that with people.

00:34:45.680 And there's such a poetry to moving through the world that way.

00:34:48.500 There's a vibe here.

00:34:49.540 It's the whole thing.

00:34:50.880 It's Saint Cecilia.

00:34:51.640 And Cecilia is the saint of travelers and musicians.

00:34:54.360 Okay.

00:34:54.740 No.

00:34:55.260 And then it's small.

00:34:56.600 And it's sort of on this old house.

00:34:58.820 Cecilia is a gorgeous name.

00:35:00.180 Absolutely.

00:35:00.920 Have you ever met Cecilia?

00:35:02.300 I don't think so.

00:35:03.400 Cecilia, but Cecilia. 0.99

00:35:06.420 Yeah, and Cecile is another one,

00:35:09.780 but I was like walking around going Cecilia.

00:35:12.040 Okay, which I don't know if that's a pronunciation anywhere,

00:35:14.860 but I was like, I was like,

00:35:15.920 Cecilia Berlian.

00:35:16.620 It would be nice if we're like Cecilia.

00:35:18.140 Could be my daughter.

00:35:19.640 Oh, daughter.

00:35:21.500 I don't know.

00:35:21.960 Cecilia, though, almost feels a little too on the nose for your daughter.

00:35:25.580 The Cecilia word is like curls to me,

00:35:29.980 like in a synesthesia way, like Cecilia is curls.

00:35:33.240 It's like the curling hair.

00:35:35.180 So I just want to say, so there's an old house kind of thing, right?

00:35:38.520 And there's a little gate and you walk in,

00:35:40.220 there's a little neon sign that like suggests you're at the right place.

00:35:43.020 And then you walk in the gate, old house,

00:35:44.920 and then they've built the newer poolside bungalows.

00:35:46.960 And they don't try to make the newer poolside bungalows

00:35:49.580 look like some fake version of the old house.

00:35:53.260 They're like, no, these are new.

00:35:56.500 And there's elegance and confidence in that choice.

00:35:58.820 Next, there's these two ancient trees.

00:36:02.800 Okay. That was confirmed last time. Okay. And they are exactly just, I mean, I'll post a picture.

00:36:10.000 They're a big part of the property. There is a vibe. Chris and I sit there on the patio. There's

00:36:14.760 this gorgeous patio area. Every time this happens, I mean, this time and last time, we sit there

00:36:18.920 trying to analyze why it's so good. Trying to locate where another place would have gone wrong.

00:36:24.500 Okay. It's ineffable. Here's one example. So there's this lawn kind of in the center,

00:36:29.740 This lawn area, it's sloping, it's natural

00:36:31.660 because it's just like a property

00:36:33.460 where the two trees are.

00:36:35.800 We were like, any other hotel

00:36:38.220 would have felt the need to stick a few chairs down there

00:36:41.500 or something.

00:36:42.260 Chris was like, or worse, chessboard.

00:36:45.340 Big chessboard, okay?

00:36:46.800 Chris was like, and Chris hates the chessboard.

00:36:49.160 And Chris was like, even I would have put a chessboard there.

00:36:52.800 He was like, I don't know if I would have known not to. 0.99

00:36:55.460 We're staring at it, we're like, fuck. 1.00

00:36:56.600 it's 1.00

00:36:57.480 they didn't have to

00:36:58.920 hotel up that part

00:37:00.220 oh there it is

00:37:01.360 there it is

00:37:02.000 don't hotel it up

00:37:02.560 so then I get home

00:37:03.220 I race from the show

00:37:04.680 I'm hurrying things up

00:37:05.700 at the emergency table

00:37:06.280 because I want to get in

00:37:07.100 in time

00:37:07.520 okay

00:37:07.880 before the 0.96

00:37:08.860 the kitchen closes

00:37:09.640 etc

00:37:09.960 whatever

00:37:10.960 and the cocktails

00:37:11.640 are divine

00:37:12.200 I normally get their

00:37:13.640 their HSC

00:37:14.380 sort of margarita

00:37:15.300 whatever

00:37:15.640 this time I'm sitting there

00:37:16.860 and I go

00:37:18.120 alright I'm going to

00:37:18.620 change it up

00:37:19.100 I'm studying the menu

00:37:20.180 and there's something

00:37:20.680 called the mystic lady

00:37:21.520 on it 0.93

00:37:21.920 okay

00:37:22.160 and I'm like

00:37:22.620 it's like referencing

00:37:24.480 bergamot

00:37:25.160 and like foam

00:37:25.980 I love foam in a cocktail.

00:37:27.880 It's referencing chamomile.

00:37:29.700 And I think the spirit is gin, which is not usually where I go.

00:37:32.180 Okay.

00:37:32.920 Okay.

00:37:33.240 But the overall thing, Cassie comes over.

00:37:37.280 I go, you know, I usually get just like the margarita,

00:37:39.900 but something about the mystic lady is calling me.

00:37:42.860 And she goes, it's really good.

00:37:44.340 And she's like, actually, that one's mine.

00:37:46.880 She invented it.

00:37:48.480 I love it.

00:37:49.060 Okay.

00:37:49.940 So I go, yes, I'm getting it. 0.96

00:37:51.260 She walks away.

00:37:52.100 When she comes back, bringing it back.

00:37:53.380 Like it's like a coupe glass, a soft purple liquid with a foam.

00:37:59.040 And then these little stars, these little gold stars sprinkled across the top.

00:38:04.100 Okay.

00:38:05.000 And like, I don't even know what they're made of, but something that melts, but not immediately.

00:38:11.000 The stars remain.

00:38:11.740 I have photos of it.

00:38:12.980 Good.

00:38:13.440 And I just go, when she came back, I just go, are you the mystic lady?

00:38:17.720 She just kind of was like, yeah, you know what I mean?

00:38:19.840 But it was so not ego that I don't even know how to understand.

00:38:23.380 I can't wait to get you to the

00:38:25.440 we should do something here and then

00:38:27.160 again this is my illness

00:38:29.580 but as you're talking I'm just like

00:38:31.580 I'm excited for our vacation

00:38:33.580 I know okay and again

00:38:35.480 I want to make it clear the Cecilia

00:38:37.280 the Ludlow listen to the treatment they're getting

00:38:39.380 on the podcast and it's from the heart

00:38:40.680 I will not utter the name of the place I stayed in Jamaica

00:38:43.140 if they did not offer it

00:38:44.520 it's not about punishing those places

00:38:47.260 it's about honoring the ones that do

00:38:49.260 to maintain the value

00:38:51.140 for the Cecilia or for the Ludlow

00:38:53.200 Maintain the value.

00:38:54.020 Right, or the proper.

00:38:55.240 Gave me a glorious discount in San Francisco.

00:38:57.860 Yeah.

00:38:58.140 To maintain the value for them,

00:38:59.260 we cannot honor the others.

00:39:00.640 No, the partners, POOG partners,

00:39:02.400 because they have the POOG stamp

00:39:03.640 and we are going to work on trademarking that.

00:39:05.600 Yeah, we are going to work on that.

00:39:06.500 In Jamaica, so the final night, John and I,

00:39:09.020 and by the way, beautiful bar.

00:39:10.760 Again, you said that the hotelification,

00:39:12.280 the bar overlooking the ocean, beautiful,

00:39:15.000 not hotelified, just very,

00:39:18.820 again, just romantic, not fussy,

00:39:20.920 really, really pretty.

00:39:22.020 Okay, the point is,

00:39:23.200 Final night, we're leaving dinner.

00:39:24.500 We hear incredible music playing.

00:39:26.060 We're like, what's going on?

00:39:27.420 Like, where is this band coming from?

00:39:30.360 We stumble upon what is clearly a private party.

00:39:34.960 There's a long table and there are like 15.

00:39:39.940 So we had heard from,

00:39:41.300 because of course you made friends with Don

00:39:43.580 who took us out, you know, snorkeling.

00:39:46.000 And he was like, oh, there's these,

00:39:47.500 there are lawyers here.

00:39:48.540 Who's Don?

00:39:48.940 Is he a hotel or a guest?

00:39:50.460 Sorry, hotel.

00:39:51.300 Okay.

00:39:52.020 So what the point is,

00:39:53.200 I was like, yeah, there's some lawyers staying here.

00:39:55.180 Oh my God.

00:39:55.600 We clocked the lawyers.

00:39:56.340 We've been tracking them.

00:39:57.420 We go, we stumble upon what is a private lawyer. 1.00

00:40:00.920 We can charm their asses. 1.00

00:40:02.200 Well, the band fucking rules. 1.00

00:40:05.000 Okay. 1.00

00:40:05.220 Oh my God.

00:40:05.780 Talking seven piece band.

00:40:07.640 And the lawyers aren't dancing, as you can imagine.

00:40:11.480 They're by the bar getting hammered.

00:40:13.540 You know, it's like all these, it's like these like men, these like.

00:40:15.960 Little sweat on the back of an overly long shirt. 0.96

00:40:18.080 Older, like white guys. 1.00

00:40:18.980 Yeah. 0.99

00:40:19.780 You know, I go, John, we're crashing this party.

00:40:23.200 right now oh my god of course we go in we start dancing yes from the heart again we're not dancing 0.98

00:40:29.740 because it's like oh we're dancing because we're fucking moved by the fucking and now what did you 0.96

00:40:36.200 see someone catch a glimpse their eye kind of over their buddy's blue shirt shoulder yeah a few people 0.99

00:40:42.760 started looking at us because but it's not a big party i want to be clear 20 people amazing small

00:40:47.500 party much john and i clearly don't belong very risky highly risky nominal people are looking over

00:40:52.360 us we're dancing the band goes this is our last song and it's that thing too where it's like oh

00:40:56.840 no like they're used to performing for tourists so it's like a reggae like and they're playing

00:41:01.360 like you know every little thing is going to be all right right or something and i was like no

00:41:04.680 that can't be it no more more more were you actually calling that out or is that just your 0.61

00:41:08.760 soul i'm calling it out don't stop so one of the guys of course one of the gay lawyers came up to

00:41:14.880 us i was like are you guys those comedians or whatever yes we're like yeah so then i start

00:41:20.140 chatting him up and I go,

00:41:21.340 listen,

00:41:22.140 the ban cannot be done.

00:41:23.380 You need to tell your boss

00:41:24.120 to like add a couple more hours 0.99

00:41:25.420 to the fucking thing or whatever. 0.99

00:41:27.220 I watched this happen 1.00

00:41:28.320 in real time.

00:41:29.020 And he said, I'm the boss, sweetie.

00:41:30.260 Okay, sorry.

00:41:31.120 Yeah, exactly.

00:41:31.960 I watched this partner

00:41:33.500 with a cigar in his hand

00:41:35.180 go to the ban, something, something.

00:41:36.720 Clearly a little negotiation happens.

00:41:38.600 They start playing more. 0.99

00:41:40.020 The gay lawyer is not 0.98

00:41:41.600 the man with a cigar, to be clear. 0.99

00:41:43.520 Yeah, this other guy.

00:41:44.320 He has spoken to the cigar man.

00:41:45.700 Okay, I'm sorry.

00:41:46.120 I'm getting too excited.

00:41:46.920 I'm forgetting the order.

00:41:47.660 I'm getting to the order.

00:41:48.400 Okay. 1.00

00:41:48.800 So the gay guy is like, 1.00

00:41:49.680 da, da, da, da. 1.00

00:41:50.000 I'm like, you got to tell your boss to like get the band to play more.

00:41:52.360 Cause it was like 10 o'clock.

00:41:53.300 I was like, they can't be done.

00:41:54.060 This is, you know, I am by the bar, cigar man, lawyer.

00:41:59.500 I hear you guys are comedians.

00:42:01.780 Right.

00:42:02.520 And I'm like, yeah.

00:42:03.940 No.

00:42:04.200 We start trying to go, you got to get, he goes, we're, you know, we're a law firm in

00:42:06.860 Philadelphia.

00:42:07.680 By the way, this like hammered drunk.

00:42:09.760 And this is the detail will come later.

00:42:11.460 This hammered drunk lawyer comes over to me. 0.99

00:42:14.120 We're the best law firm in the world.

00:42:16.020 No, no, no.

00:42:16.580 This is too much.

00:42:18.300 Okay.

00:42:18.620 Okay.

00:42:18.880 My best law firm in the world. 1.00

00:42:20.780 Drunk out of his fucking mind. 1.00

00:42:22.480 Leaves. 1.00

00:42:23.220 I'm talking to the lawyer.

00:42:24.420 He's got the cigar.

00:42:25.280 At one point,

00:42:26.040 I'm sorry.

00:42:26.360 My best law firm in the world.

00:42:27.400 Yeah,

00:42:27.660 your best law firm in the world.

00:42:29.480 And then the-

00:42:30.680 Are you wearing those sandals?

00:42:31.960 I'm wearing my Target.

00:42:33.020 So again,

00:42:33.580 I want to be clear.

00:42:34.520 Went to Jamaica from New York.

00:42:35.560 All I had were winter boots

00:42:36.680 and winter coats.

00:42:37.420 I had only winter gear.

00:42:39.160 I emergency ran to Target.

00:42:40.800 Which is where you go

00:42:41.500 when you have a trip.

00:42:42.280 Two swimsuits,

00:42:43.280 flip-flops,

00:42:43.740 and two dresses,

00:42:45.040 everything.

00:42:45.820 All year long.

00:42:46.520 And honey,

00:42:46.920 it was dead winter,

00:42:47.760 30% off.

00:42:48.440 And the Acceleration brand continues to surprise and delight every season.

00:42:52.980 That's all I'll say.

00:42:53.300 All I know is I had everything I needed for my trip.

00:42:56.140 So I'm wearing, but okay, but the partner is talking to me.

00:42:58.660 He's got a cigar.

00:42:59.660 He goes, does this bother you?

00:43:01.720 I go, no, I go, it reminds me of my childhood.

00:43:07.640 Oh my God.

00:43:08.200 He goes, oh, did your dad smoke a cigar?

00:43:10.240 I was like, no, but his friend used to.

00:43:12.560 I'm like, ew.

00:43:14.300 I know.

00:43:15.060 No, no, sorry.

00:43:15.860 I'm loving.

00:43:16.380 What am I doing?

00:43:17.120 my it was phenomenal okay he went john and i both felt he was flirting with both of us we're like

00:43:21.820 we're like wait he's like there it is okay yeah i'm sure so i'm like we got to get the band to

00:43:28.000 play more and then i watch in real time you're on a mission this is you you've locked in that

00:43:32.820 tonight there's more like you've decided the band has to play more and you're like yes a dog with a

00:43:39.020 bone okay keep going sorry it's just an essential part of your personality well i locked it in i

00:43:44.360 watch him go over talk to the the lead singer they work it out they start playing i go over

00:43:49.260 to the bar and i go i want seven beers for the band right now oh my god okay they're not getting

00:43:53.780 them beers and i carry over red stripes to the band so fun on the company tab i said they're

00:44:00.340 all sober needless to say i know they start drinking beer it was on the company tab wait

00:44:05.860 hold on yes yes it's on the company tab did you say it's on the company tab did you know it was

00:44:10.760 just happening by virtue of... I just knew that it was a private party. I knew that the card was

00:44:15.120 down. So if you just ask the bartender, hi. Yeah, it's a 20-person party. And he sees that you've

00:44:17.840 been talking to the partner. I had a tequila soda on the company. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. I'm in.

00:44:23.020 I'm in. What are they going to do? Hey, you can't have drinks here? No. No, no, no. Not after we're

00:44:28.040 dancing and making them experience joy for the first time in their life. Yeah, literally connecting

00:44:30.980 with life. The entire reason they came on the vacation. The entire reason they came on the

00:44:33.880 vacation. Spontaneously. Sometimes you have to be, for someone else, the entire reason they came on

00:44:39.000 the vacation you have to actually serve that up a lot in life oh i mean if you're if we're poor

00:44:43.540 you know so i so i i go over i give them beers and i'm like you know i'm gonna go i want to hear

00:44:51.260 what you guys want to play oh my god kate they go we can play anything i'm like i know but like 0.97

00:44:56.020 what are you guys like i'm just like i'm sure you guys they start to fucking oh my god crank it out 0.95

00:45:01.200 i'm on my knees at one point dancing so hard i'm i'm feeling it so hard i'm on my knees the finest 0.97

00:45:06.380 story and i want to be clear the ocean the ocean is at night crashing god we're on the beach the

00:45:11.800 music is unbelievable cool sand we're getting down so hard i and then and by the way people

00:45:18.300 are starting to dance suddenly some of the lawyers are starting to dance oh my god then it goes even

00:45:24.020 further and i go up and i go what do you guys want you want a shot to who the band again yeah

00:45:29.020 they go yeah we'll take tequila shots i go to the bar i go hey i'd like to buy it yeah i didn't say

00:45:33.480 I'd like to buy, but I was just like, can we get some tequila shots for the band?

00:45:36.560 I watched them open a brand new bottle of Patron.

00:45:38.480 Oh, my God.

00:45:38.960 And they pour thick, heavy shots.

00:45:41.140 Thick, holiday pour.

00:45:42.180 Holiday pour shots.

00:45:43.120 I take them over to the band.

00:45:44.400 I just want to say that it was a joy to buy tequila for the band on the company card.

00:45:48.980 We're dancing, having a great time.

00:45:51.760 Everything's great.

00:45:52.620 The partner's like, oh, if you're ever in Philadelphia, you know, all of this.

00:45:55.860 If you're ever in Philadelphia, we'll represent you.

00:45:59.100 Yeah.

00:46:00.800 John, of course, was like, I'm trying to sue someone in Philadelphia.

00:46:02.940 and the guy thought it was real of course oh my god like no we're joking because guess what i

00:46:07.260 thought it was real when you just said it i've despite john constantly telling lies okay as

00:46:13.480 gags i believe every single one yeah yeah well the same thing happened we were talking about

00:46:18.620 one of the lawyers and the lawyer was like what do you like what's up with you guys and john was

00:46:22.340 like we're here with our kids oh my god no it's not real but they think it's real you know just

00:46:27.340 it's constant okay so the point is he's out of control finally the band closes finally the band

00:46:31.300 really does end.

00:46:32.400 Incredible set.

00:46:33.380 We're loving it.

00:46:33.580 And you were like,

00:46:33.960 that's the perfect time to end.

00:46:35.160 You're like,

00:46:35.440 that was the perfect time to end.

00:46:36.620 I couldn't have danced

00:46:37.340 a single more times.

00:46:39.000 If they played one more song,

00:46:40.620 that would have been ruined.

00:46:41.360 Ruined.

00:46:41.680 Ruined.

00:46:41.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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00:50:22.440 So, great night

00:50:29.700 John and I, it's our final night

00:50:30.880 We're like, we cannot believe that the night ended with that

00:50:33.900 Like the trip ended with that

00:50:35.060 Just unbelievable

00:50:35.880 We go back to our room

00:50:37.840 We're sharing this room

00:50:38.940 It's around 1230

00:50:40.640 I hear, all of a sudden

00:50:43.420 Wait, wait

00:50:44.320 So it's scarier

00:50:45.820 So we're in this unbelievable lagoon cottage

00:50:49.220 On the water 0.99

00:50:50.100 fucking psychotic okay 1.00

00:50:51.780 it's the nicest place 1.00

00:50:52.960 I've ever stayed

00:50:53.400 and

00:50:54.960 we're in there

00:50:56.160 and we hear

00:50:57.040 something

00:50:58.100 we're brushing our teeth

00:50:59.140 together

00:50:59.520 his and her sinks

00:51:00.300 and we hear like

00:51:01.560 something

00:51:02.720 that is enough

00:51:03.480 to make us both

00:51:04.180 kind of turn around

00:51:04.940 and go like

00:51:05.360 what was that

00:51:06.040 and it kind of

00:51:07.220 ooh a little scary

00:51:08.340 like oh

00:51:09.000 you know 0.99

00:51:09.320 is it a fucking 0.99

00:51:09.960 like animal 1.00

00:51:10.820 like what the hell 0.57

00:51:11.520 so we hear that

00:51:13.200 we're kind of scared

00:51:14.340 but then we immediately

00:51:15.480 dissolves

00:51:15.960 we're brushing our teeth

00:51:16.640 John goes into the

00:51:17.920 bedroom area

00:51:18.480 I'm in the bathroom

00:51:19.100 and I hear

00:51:20.100 I hear John say, whoa, whoa, whoa, you guys, I go in, two drunk lawyers are standing in

00:51:28.420 our hotel room.

00:51:28.900 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:51:30.240 No, no, no, no.

00:51:31.600 My adrenaline shoots through the roof. 1.00

00:51:35.140 Two drunk men in the room here to clearly rape and murder. 0.99

00:51:38.460 I start to scream. 0.99

00:51:40.600 I don't scream. 0.99

00:51:41.280 I go, get the fuck out of here. 0.99

00:51:43.340 Wait, wait, wait. 0.99

00:51:43.820 I start saying, what the hell?

00:51:46.020 John goes out first. 0.91

00:51:47.240 You're still in the bathroom.

00:51:48.020 and then you hear John say, guys.

00:51:50.040 John, I'm in the bathroom, but it's like one open.

00:51:52.000 I hear John go, I hear John as if a puppy has wandered in.

00:51:55.460 I hear John say like, well, you guys,

00:51:57.880 like, what are you doing here?

00:51:58.820 I go in.

00:51:59.280 So they entered.

00:52:00.440 They're not at the door.

00:52:01.500 They entered.

00:52:02.140 They entered.

00:52:03.060 So they're standing at the foot of our bed.

00:52:04.560 He's not at the door and people have kind of argued their way in.

00:52:07.920 They've already walked in.

00:52:08.400 They've already walked in.

00:52:09.420 John Hurley saying, guys.

00:52:10.520 No, John Hurley is like, guys.

00:52:12.200 I was like.

00:52:13.200 Okay, so give me, let's give it to me for real. 0.88

00:52:15.600 I say, what the hell?

00:52:16.700 and I'm like 0.78

00:52:17.320 and one of them

00:52:18.560 so one of them

00:52:19.540 is the guy

00:52:20.360 one of the best law firm

00:52:21.100 in the world

00:52:21.640 it's that guy

00:52:22.200 of course he is

00:52:22.560 the super hammered guy

00:52:23.820 and then a less hammered

00:52:25.120 but still very hammered guy

00:52:26.260 the very hammered guy

00:52:27.760 is walking in

00:52:29.540 and he's fully in

00:52:30.740 the other guy's still

00:52:31.440 kind of lingering

00:52:32.000 by the doorway

00:52:32.540 and they're like

00:52:33.300 this is our room

00:52:34.080 this is my room

00:52:34.980 I go this is not your room

00:52:36.260 they're like

00:52:36.580 this is our room

00:52:37.780 and I'm like 1.00

00:52:38.560 this is not your fucking room 0.99

00:52:40.200 I was like 1.00

00:52:41.020 you need to get the hell

00:52:41.920 out of here right now 0.86

00:52:42.780 and I walk outside

00:52:44.600 to encourage them

00:52:45.340 to get outside

00:52:45.900 and to be in more public space.

00:52:47.260 Yeah, and just,

00:52:47.780 because I didn't feel,

00:52:49.820 I soon realized,

00:52:50.900 okay, they're not being aggressive drunk.

00:52:52.820 They're actually so hammered

00:52:54.380 and I think they actually are confused.

00:52:56.080 Like something's going on

00:52:57.020 that I don't understand,

00:52:57.820 but this is the scariest thing in the world.

00:53:00.020 And there's a good chance

00:53:00.580 they are staying in a lagoon room.

00:53:02.120 Yeah.

00:53:02.560 I don't feel the need to scream like,

00:53:04.520 but like,

00:53:05.460 but I,

00:53:07.680 because it's also the resort,

00:53:08.880 it's small.

00:53:09.360 It's like if I were to scream,

00:53:10.500 everyone would hear whatever. 0.99

00:53:12.040 But this one guy won't get the fuck out of here. 0.90

00:53:14.260 And he's like, 0.92

00:53:14.800 this is my suitcase.

00:53:15.620 That is not your suitcase

00:53:17.040 Is John saying anything too

00:53:20.280 Like is John

00:53:21.520 Not protecting me

00:53:23.820 I peacocked I was pumping

00:53:26.680 I was like 0.72

00:53:27.720 Like the masculine energy 0.88

00:53:31.080 A switch got turned and I was like 0.98

00:53:32.540 Get the fuck out of here 0.96

00:53:33.420 How the hell do I not have this on film 0.99

00:53:35.180 This is devastating

00:53:35.880 So I'm like yelling loud enough 1.00

00:53:39.820 Being like get your fucking 1.00

00:53:41.400 Get the hell out of here 1.00

00:53:42.480 They wander out

00:53:44.700 we close you're not trying conversational at all you're not like i i feel like i would just 0.92

00:53:49.860 know i'm get the fuck out get the fuck out okay no i i'm pure anger i have the adrenaline surging 0.82

00:53:54.380 i'm like how the hell are they in here what's going are they you know but then i'm again i'm 0.92

00:53:58.960 also clocking okay they're not being like physically aggressive or anything like they're

00:54:03.280 they truly are so hammered but i there's nothing worse on earth than drunk people like it's just

00:54:09.360 the scariest it's like horrifying like the last of us like the zombies like that's just alcoholism

00:54:15.940 like if it's all around and it's like and I'm just like so scared of them because they're so

00:54:22.220 out of their minds and so I immediately call the front desk and I'm like hi there are two drunk

00:54:26.840 lawyers did you say lawyers because I know they're from the retreat I'm like there are two drunk men

00:54:32.440 from the lawyer retreat they're in our room they got in the guy's like okay lock your door like

00:54:37.260 do you want me to send security I was like yes you do need to wait were they out yet were they

00:54:40.360 out were they out yeah they're out they're out but I close your door by the door and I'm like

00:54:44.360 and you call the hell did they get in here how the hell and then and John was like was the door

00:54:47.480 open maybe the door was open I was like the door was not open I opened the door and closed it there's 0.94

00:54:50.320 no fucking way that door was open so I call the front I hear and then I hear one of them outside

00:54:55.460 like our key worked for your room or something like oh how do we get in so there's an there's 0.98

00:55:00.920 an identical lagoon cottage directly across okay I think okay this is so I'm like maybe

00:55:06.400 the lawyers becomes first of all wait don't forget they're lawyers so watch their defense

00:55:11.120 closely and what about you work what about you work so show us i'm still like we can't well by

00:55:17.220 the way i'm like imagine being dead asleep and the door opens and there are men in there i mean

00:55:24.820 that's literally your life's ruined can't sleep ever again i mean but the point is they're gone

00:55:29.660 so i watch them i go okay they're in i go so clearly okay at least that is their room across

00:55:34.680 the way that is their room. But like, what the hell? They weren't angry. Like I wasn't, I was

00:55:39.480 like, okay, we're going to sleep, sleep like a baby. Um, but Oh, I said to John. So as soon as

00:55:44.220 they left, I go, this room is free. I say to John and I'm walking around, I'm walking around the

00:55:49.620 room. So sure. I go, if they think we are paying for this night, tell me if this isn't even coming

00:55:58.060 into it. Okay. But is your belief that the key of the, of men was the keys were made in such a way

00:56:05.840 that there's no security because these other guys' keys does open our door. Is that what you'd be

00:56:10.240 coming at the hotel with in your mind? Yeah. I'm just kind of like, how is this possible? But yeah,

00:56:13.700 their keys work for our room. If that's true. Right. That's insane. If that's true, then then

00:56:17.520 I, yeah. Okay. Anyway, you know, wake up, have coffee, fucking breakfast on the lagoon,

00:56:23.120 diving right into the water from the room. What in the, about in the morning, 0.99

00:56:25.820 do you see the lawyers or anything no so I so I'm terrified of seeing the lawyers right and I was

00:56:29.100 like because I was like John and I are gonna be swimming all morning outside the lagoon in the

00:56:33.140 lagoon if they come out and try to talk to us I'm gonna be like hey hope you're like but then I'm

00:56:37.860 also realizing okay this was a mistake like they weren't intruding thinking it was his suitcase

00:56:43.000 is interesting but here's what I can't get over them walking in and the one guy not leaving not 0.99

00:56:47.900 leaving that's where I'm like burn in hell right there's a woman screaming at you get the fuck out 1.00

00:56:52.380 and you're just standing there in the room. 1.00

00:56:54.160 And you're deciding to argue the case.

00:56:55.940 Yeah, I mean, he wasn't, but he was-

00:56:57.720 But the one guy, you mean the less drunk guy?

00:56:58.900 No, the more drunk guy.

00:57:00.260 No, okay.

00:57:00.440 The more drunk guy wouldn't leave.

00:57:01.480 And the other one did?

00:57:02.520 Like he left, like trying to get his buddy out.

00:57:05.040 The other one is in the doorway.

00:57:06.580 And I start screaming at him, 1.00

00:57:07.980 get your fucking guy, get him. 1.00

00:57:10.160 And he's like, oh, whatever his name is. 1.00

00:57:12.300 He's like, let's go.

00:57:13.320 Right.

00:57:13.580 I'm like, no, physically go get him right now.

00:57:16.200 Physically go get him right now.

00:57:17.400 Did it ever occur to you or did you,

00:57:19.980 I'm not suggesting this.

00:57:21.040 I'm just curious because my mind, I'm putting myself in the circumstances to physically like

00:57:25.940 push his drunk body towards the door. So I didn't want to touch. No. So I didn't want to touch at

00:57:31.540 all. And I was waiting in the door and I stimulate. Yeah. And I just like, even in the moment I was

00:57:37.460 like, he was so drunk. He still wasn't fully leaving. And I had the urge to kind of, John

00:57:41.920 said he like put his hand on his back kind of firmly to lead him out, but didn't push. And I'm

00:57:47.380 still like when it comes out i'm like is he gonna like turn around and sock me like i just don't 0.98

00:57:51.420 know like he's because he's so fucking x's in his eyes oh gosh yeah might as well be dead right i'm 0.95

00:57:57.260 like anyway in the beautiful glow of the morning i'm like maybe we won't get the room free i'm like 0.98

00:58:02.660 maybe now here's what i want to know what do you think well are you still wondering what happened

00:58:08.040 and why they got in and are you dead sure you closed the door yes because i would assume 0.52

00:58:13.100 knowing you, you're pretty fucking sure 0.64

00:58:15.220 if you closed the door or not. The door was closed 0.93

00:58:17.360 and that is fully confirmed. The door

00:58:19.160 was completely closed. What do you think I'm entitled

00:58:21.060 to? Was there any follow

00:58:23.080 up by the hotel in the morning? No.

00:58:25.680 That was checkout day.

00:58:27.280 What do you feel? I mean...

00:58:30.560 How much outrage?

00:58:31.820 Or is there none? Am I

00:58:33.300 overreacting? Did you feel outrage at the hotel?

00:58:35.540 Because do you believe the key opened

00:58:37.280 both doors? Yes, and I felt,

00:58:38.380 I felt, yeah,

00:58:40.540 I guess at that point I thought, their key

00:58:42.380 opened our door you know it'd be an ugly i don't know what this would prove or do an ugly little

00:58:46.700 thing would be to switch your room key at the party so the lawyer switches his room key with 0.90

00:58:51.320 yours pulls it out of your little purse okay whatever and then uses that to get in your room

00:58:55.760 and be like but my key work look look no oh my god i know like i'd be like curious about like

00:59:01.460 security camera i don't know i would be curious about what happened okay so we go to check out

00:59:06.280 everyone's been lovely that works there it's been a you know great experience and i say to the woman

00:59:12.300 at the front did they talk to you about what happened last night and she's like no what what

00:59:17.280 happened I tell her and she's like oh be honest she's not as horrified as I would like her to be

00:59:24.260 I was like they were like drunk and like wouldn't get out we had to like scream at them I was like

00:59:28.240 it was pretty awful it was like pretty scary there when they first came in it was like you know

00:59:32.300 but I'm like well she can't like these guys whatever she says there's a thing because our

00:59:38.760 cottages normally it's like people are renting that whole area so it's like oh it's a bachelor

00:59:44.120 weekend or whatever the fuck so the two villas the key work for both that's and she she alerted 0.76

00:59:48.560 you to that key there she just admitted that yes kate i'm in shock that is absolute negligence 0.96

00:59:58.460 that is absolute that's insane what are you what are you what is the primary responsibility

01:00:06.700 a room with a lock so it's like you don't pay for the room you pay for the lock you know so i said

01:00:12.160 i said you pay for the horror to leave you know i said and she kind of said that like she was like

01:00:17.860 i'll alert the it people i was like yeah and i can't because she's so relaxed about it i was

01:00:23.960 like it people oh my god yeah or something and i was like whoa and i and i i wasn't you know i just

01:00:29.220 said is there anything you can do for us i was like that's that seems pretty you know crazy that

01:00:34.220 there. Key would work for her room. She goes, I'll be right back. I hear on the phone. She's 1.00

01:00:37.580 talking to someone. Then she comes back and she goes, I talked to our manager. He's sincerely

01:00:42.740 sorry. I wanted to give you a single pina colada. We're going to take two of your dinners off the

01:00:46.660 tab. Ew. I'm sorry, Kate. Nope. This is bad enough that I don't even think you didn't get

01:00:51.440 like, oh, you didn't get it in the moment right there. And I think you still have recourse.

01:00:55.100 This is insane. This fucking rules. I'm going to email them today. I'm going to email them today. 1.00

01:00:58.660 Like I want, I feel like they're like, because listener, correct me if I'm wrong. At Holiday

01:01:02.780 in another guest's key doesn't work for your room. Exactly. It's the number one. At a roadside

01:01:08.340 motel. Also, like there must, I mean, not to, but not to have to call the boys in Philly, but

01:01:15.720 like legally, surely like to run a hotel, there are certain like basic things. Okay. Actually,

01:01:22.460 it's an interesting idea. You should get the Philly boys themselves to represent you. I know.

01:01:26.660 we we sue them we could have assaulted her in the courtroom well by the way that's almost the 0.99

01:01:33.840 difference i'm like if i had been if i had been alone i would have lost my fucking mind and i 0.96

01:01:41.600 would have okay so you're saying this is huge jacqueline so you're saying i should email and 0.81

01:01:46.340 say it just doesn't sit right with me paying for that final night oh my god okay no it just doesn't

01:01:51.460 sit right with you not calling the cops in my opinion and taking massive legal action final

01:01:56.820 night i mean okay there's a couple thoughts one i've never taken legal action okay i know nothing

01:02:03.960 about legal action i'm i'm speaking merely in the world i would never take legal action you know

01:02:07.920 whatever like what happens if a hotel has bad wiring in their room okay and a minor fire started

01:02:14.780 and they put it out and it's because they had bad wiring like that they installed because here's the

01:02:20.580 thing. It's not even accidental. It's like essentially a policy. I'm actually, as you're

01:02:23.980 talking, I'm like, oh, we're not paying for that final night, honey. You keep saying final night.

01:02:29.960 Oh, trip. Plus a free one next year. Their sister property. Final night. Kate, what I'm trying to

01:02:40.240 suggest to you is that you were put in literal danger. Literal danger. I know. I know. By the

01:02:46.700 like we could have John and I could have been having sex like you know what I'm just saying

01:02:50.200 yeah they came in 12 30 we could have been about that it wouldn't indicate under any circumstance 1.00

01:02:54.420 could have been naked could have been fucking could have been asleep could have been could 0.99

01:02:58.080 have been mid-proposal I could we could have been mid-breakup well these are not again again I go 1.00

01:03:03.960 back to assault okay you're it's not about like we could have been having the finest steak dinner

01:03:09.340 of our lives okay and what about the rules by the way the lawyers say we were the lawyers getting on

01:03:14.520 my side. We could have assaulted them. Well, this is what you say to the lawyer boys.

01:03:18.360 You head down to Philly. Okay. Okay. And you roll in and you say, boys, there's two options.

01:03:23.240 You can either be dragged into this case as a witness or you can take the case and you'll fight 0.99

01:03:31.240 your goddamn rights. You'll just fight your goddamn ass off to get me a settlement or I don't know. 1.00

01:03:37.660 I don't know. There's something poetic to be gleaned here. But to me, it's one thing if 1.00

01:03:44.080 there's negligence I mean I think it even goes more than negligence because it's like systemic

01:03:49.400 it's how they so the key because what she said was key the key works for both she goes you're

01:03:55.300 staying on this part of the it's like so okay picture this the cottages right there's one like

01:04:01.280 big main house that's between the two cottages it was not occupied no I get it us and the drunk guys

01:04:07.640 had the little front cottages yeah so it's just always at those keys the keys should not work for

01:04:15.180 other rooms to the two flanks wait so talk to me talk to me talk to me i mean what would you do

01:04:21.100 so i email was there a safe in the room yes there was a safe and they're really pushing the safe

01:04:25.440 they were like lock up i've never used the safe in a hotel in my life i know i know like the safe

01:04:30.460 is there and there was a little note that was like you know but i was like i'm not using the

01:04:34.200 we're not responsible yeah no and that but i point that out to mean like like hotel rooms

01:04:39.040 recognize the danger like the secondary level which is like a key work for drunken lawyers

01:04:45.940 on kate and john's room and they came in in the night and the key was programmed to work that way

01:04:51.000 they explained it to us we had to scream at them scream at them to get out because it's part of

01:04:57.560 this area that normally people will rent like they'll rent all four cottages okay and so these

01:05:04.380 guys drunkenly stumbled into their room and they're like the key work the key work what do

01:05:08.260 you mean this is our room that's my suitcase okay and the hotel the next morning is like yeah well

01:05:13.580 actually the keys do work for for both of those i actually was genuinely terrified it could have

01:05:17.620 been fully beaten up anything yeah so tell chris tell chris we got two dinners comp two dinners

01:05:23.880 because that's when you start using the word unacceptable i just does chris think we should

01:05:30.440 get a free night so kate is asking does chris think kate and john should get a free night

01:05:35.020 there it is the whole thing he said shocked this okay okay he's obsessed with that night

01:05:41.700 well i wasn't almost assaulted the previous night yes you were yes you were they just

01:05:47.120 happened not to stumble in that night oh my god i mean whatever to me it's not about

01:05:52.440 like playing like the POOG game

01:05:55.300 about free stays

01:05:56.420 because of course I am.

01:05:57.680 Like it's an egregious safety failure.

01:06:01.660 By the way, imagine,

01:06:02.440 and I'm not going to do this.

01:06:03.880 Imagine if I go to Yelp

01:06:04.800 or even right here. 1.00

01:06:06.440 Fuck Yelp. 1.00

01:06:07.440 Even here on POOG, I go, 1.00

01:06:08.860 hey, if you stay at this place,

01:06:10.900 other people have a key to your room.

01:06:12.420 Yeah.

01:06:12.980 So enjoy.

01:06:14.040 Enjoy.

01:06:14.500 Oh, it's gorgeous.

01:06:15.140 It's amazing.

01:06:15.740 But anyone can get in there.

01:06:17.060 Anyone can get in there at any hour. 1.00

01:06:17.860 And rape or murder you. 1.00

01:06:18.740 Yeah. 1.00

01:06:19.480 By design, by policy.

01:06:22.440 Not it can happen due to glitch.

01:06:24.240 Okay, I'm sweating because I'm so excited.

01:06:26.920 So I'm basically, I'm going to text John.

01:06:29.180 I'm scared you're going to.

01:06:30.120 What?

01:06:30.640 What are you scared?

01:06:31.720 No, like I'm almost like scared you're going to go too soft again

01:06:34.280 and like just be like, can we get the cocktails for you too?

01:06:36.700 I just like, I don't.

01:06:37.620 What should I say?

01:06:38.220 I think I'm going to say is, hi, we had a beautiful stay, blah, blah, blah.

01:06:41.960 This happened. 0.98

01:06:42.700 I'll talk about how terrifying it was, which it fucking was. 0.98

01:06:45.180 And then I'm just going to say, it just doesn't sit right with me. 0.95

01:06:49.600 Like, see, it's still not quite there where it is for me.

01:06:51.420 I'm not sure what the beautiful stay thing is all about for you at this point.

01:06:55.680 I mean, I guess is it because you want to go back and you're hoping that they give you like, you know, a tower of profiterole with like a cut key at the top.

01:07:03.000 So you're saying you're saying with a cut key at the top.

01:07:05.680 We all remember what almost happened last time.

01:07:08.340 So what would you do if you were me?

01:07:10.280 Now they run the hotel.

01:07:10.860 What would you do if you were me?

01:07:12.880 Well, I would probably Google a little bit about what legally, because if you think, you know, questions of one's safety has not been brought up before in a hotel.

01:07:20.100 you know there's a world of stories out there so it's sort of like i'd probably google a little

01:07:25.740 and just be like you know the primary expectation of a motel six is that you know i'm not at home

01:07:31.740 but i can stay somewhere where i can guarantee a roof over my head that no one but me is the key

01:07:38.280 to is the primary expectation of a hotel yeah and um i was alerted not that a glitch or some kind of

01:07:48.800 error of mere negligence had occurred, but that by design and policy, the adjacent rooms had

01:07:57.100 access to my room for the entirety of this day. If I had found that out, I would have been really

01:08:04.040 upset. Like if nothing had happened, but I found that out. However, I did find out to find drunken,

01:08:11.560 profoundly drunken, large men had entered my room using a key.

01:08:18.220 would not leave

01:08:19.040 see like

01:08:19.980 because I almost

01:08:20.780 what I try to focus on

01:08:22.520 they were rightfully confused

01:08:23.580 they were rightfully confused

01:08:24.780 it's funny

01:08:26.080 like

01:08:26.360 you know

01:08:27.280 by the way

01:08:27.840 by the way Jacqueline

01:08:28.380 Jacqueline

01:08:28.660 Jacqueline

01:08:28.980 I left out a detail

01:08:29.720 their careers and lives

01:08:30.720 could be ruined

01:08:31.240 if you'd like 1.00

01:08:32.000 oh fucking your bet 0.99

01:08:33.500 I should have taken my phone out 1.00

01:08:34.660 and started filming them

01:08:35.420 that was a huge mistake

01:08:36.480 not to

01:08:36.920 well I know

01:08:37.720 I know

01:08:38.180 so

01:08:38.660 and this is furthering the confusion

01:08:40.380 when they were outside

01:08:41.440 and they were talking

01:08:42.520 at the door

01:08:42.920 and I screamed 1.00

01:08:43.400 you better get the fuck away 1.00

01:08:44.580 from that door right now 1.00

01:08:45.580 because they were out there

01:08:46.640 and I heard

01:08:47.320 and one of them

01:08:47.840 the less drunk one goes can we just he goes can we just come inside and look for our back oh you 0.99

01:08:54.420 still thought he still thought that's when I almost felt bad I was like oh damn they really 0.85

01:09:01.160 are yeah see this is actually where maybe you do the lawyers are not the villains here let's start 0.98

01:09:07.940 with that this is where you and the lawyers you john you and john and the lawyer boys yeah team up

01:09:14.100 okay and get a settlement because like like what if you had you know they could argue that their

01:09:21.300 their careers and lives were almost ruined because what if you had immediately pulled out

01:09:25.080 a camera and put them on tiktok going these lawyers from philadelphia firm whatever

01:09:31.640 drunk and broke into our room march into my room and i i'm just saying like like it's very funny

01:09:37.760 okay by the way my adrenaline i am so excited to write this email i'm not actually joking about

01:09:43.060 I'm actually thinking it might be interesting to reach out to the law firm.

01:09:45.940 Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen.

01:09:47.960 Their law firm.

01:09:50.220 No, I know.

01:09:50.880 But wait, listen, would you and your...

01:09:52.780 I'm not going to do that.

01:09:53.620 I'm not going to do that.

01:09:54.480 I'm not going to reference the law in my email.

01:09:56.200 But listen, if you were me, would you put in the email something on the lines of being

01:10:02.320 billed for the stay feels pretty egregious?

01:10:06.380 Or would you just let them come forward with it?

01:10:09.560 You know what I'm saying?

01:10:10.100 Yeah, I once heard...

01:10:13.060 heard someone say something like, when we said I had another allergy, I was delivered a nut in a

01:10:18.500 cocktail. Oh, yeah. And I had an immediately allergic reaction, ran to the store, whatever.

01:10:24.940 And at the end of the meal, when they tried to take the round of drinks off,

01:10:30.520 the ones that had the nut in the drink. Okay. Yeah. Are you already composing the email?

01:10:39.160 Psychopaths. Okay. Because you're afraid of losing the words that just came to you that

01:10:42.960 you feel are the golden ticket okay keep going you need to breathe and realize that like i'm not 0.96

01:10:48.600 gonna forget like i'm only gonna get better as you're here you're right you're fucking right 0.68

01:10:52.480 okay i love you okay thank you but i i heard the person i was dining with say something like um 0.75

01:10:59.920 i was shocked when the bill came out yeah i assumed in no way was i going to pay for this

01:11:06.820 meal yeah I was astounded when I was handed a bill and by putting it through that way the manager

01:11:14.920 was like oh shit you're right like basically I was like you're right and then um are you for this 0.72

01:11:20.560 and this is where we differ or where you know the people I was with and I think you might differ 0.98

01:11:26.140 okay is that is that he goes we are absolutely paying for the meal this is not about like I'm 0.96

01:11:33.300 not gonna be the asshole doesn't be like we're we're paying for the entire meal and we're even 0.94

01:11:37.820 if you wouldn't let us we'd be tipping the wait staff you know heartily whatever he's like we're 0.98

01:11:42.340 we're paying for the meal like but I just want you to know I was completely shocked that a bill

01:11:46.820 came oh there it is and then and they're going no no we'd really like to comp the meal you are

01:11:53.520 absolutely right we'd really like to come to meal come to meal the person was going absolutely not

01:11:57.180 no we're paying and I'm going can we yeah like because like you know I was paying for half the

01:12:03.780 meal like whatever like it was hysterical that one person who's like making the big scene is like

01:12:08.940 still like is opting for all of us that know in fact we will pay but setting aside trying to get

01:12:15.980 it for free or whatever I actually don't think the answer lies in talking about how terrified

01:12:21.120 you were and all that okay because to me that's that's like it's like if if someone breaks into

01:12:27.260 your house if someone does something like blatantly illegal you you don't have to claim

01:12:34.000 terror for it to have been illegal do you see what i'm saying it almost makes it like you're

01:12:39.380 trying to seek emotional damages for something that was kind of vaguely like to me all of the

01:12:44.960 as you can imagine this is very disturbing or whatever it's a little bit like it's like it's

01:12:49.540 like suggest you think you don't have a case. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. As though you don't have

01:12:52.760 a case. Yeah. And to me, it's just like, I would never pay a single dollar to stay in a hotel

01:12:57.980 where I didn't have a room that locked. That's all you can say. Or that gave access to my room

01:13:04.480 to strangers or whatever you want to say. Yeah. I mean, and also maybe you don't care

01:13:08.860 and who gives a shit. And it's like, it's funny and egregious. And maybe you're kind of like, 0.99

01:13:14.740 i don't even hate the hotel i don't hate the hotel that's why i'm like because i don't hate

01:13:20.300 the hotel and i even have the thing like well i don't want to cause a fuss and i but why not

01:13:25.500 we're on the boat they're talking about oh justin bieber and jimmy fallon come here i'm like really 0.97

01:13:31.300 pretty sure jimmy and justin wouldn't want anyone to have a key to their fucking room 1.00

01:13:36.140 to come in at the very least have a glimpse of their wife's tits 1.00

01:13:41.480 at the bare minimum at the very least i mean there's nothing more dangerous in this world 1.00

01:13:50.520 than a pack i know a pack of drunken philly lawyers on vacation disappear body and worse

01:13:55.740 on a work vacation they're not there with their family they do a huddle in the morning how do we

01:14:00.040 do this yeah my body is sent down the lagoon into the open ocean into the caribbean sea

01:14:06.200 like wow okay well this is now a law usually it's like a series of errors yeah where you could be

01:14:17.040 really pissed that a series of errors they didn't do this they didn't do this and you just go i'm

01:14:21.840 really disappointed overall because every step of the way you know these things happen and i could

01:14:25.860 have been killed right that kind of thing this is not that this is the most what is the most if you 0.63

01:14:30.860 had to come up with the most egregious you know just just blatant fuck up you could have what 0.97

01:14:36.360 more could it be that they rented out the space under your bed for someone and didn't tell you 0.98

01:14:40.260 it's as close as that so we'll see Chris in the background going the whole stays free or whatever 0.99

01:14:47.260 that's amazing I needed support I can't wait to draft this fucking I'm gonna consult my friend 0.97

01:14:52.700 who yes because I first of all with nut allergy even though I said I have nut allergy and I 0.98

01:14:58.200 because knowing John John's gonna go leave it alone I think John's gonna go leave it alone

01:15:03.820 I'm gonna go I don't know about that well there is the thing with when it's not just you paying

01:15:10.200 like it's like it's not just something you bought for the two of you it's like you both paying so

01:15:15.000 yeah it's this weird thing where you're almost like you know it's sort of both of your names

01:15:19.560 being dragged through the mud I also you know don't pay twice right like yeah yeah like I don't

01:15:27.360 count energy discussing on poog as failed energy this is the art of conversation because listen

01:15:31.620 here's what it is I'm not going to get into a back and forth I have no urge to like like I'm

01:15:36.440 fine three lines I think it should be free I think we should be refunded it's three lines I think we

01:15:41.460 should be refunded for this day other guests had access to my room the entire time unknowingly

01:15:45.940 to me and ultimately knowingly when the worst thing that could possibly happen a group of

01:15:50.500 drunken men forced their way into our room.

01:15:55.240 We're lucky that violence didn't occur.

01:15:57.260 You're lucky that violence didn't occur. 1.00

01:15:58.740 I could have taken out a fucking knife 1.00

01:16:01.220 and you could have taken out a gun and shot them. 1.00

01:16:03.480 Yeah. 1.00

01:16:04.480 And then they'd be dead when it wasn't even their fault.

01:16:07.220 I know.

01:16:07.780 Violence could have occurred. 0.99

01:16:09.060 Such a fucking good point. 0.99

01:16:10.440 So violence was narrowly escaped. 1.00

01:16:12.700 Yep.

01:16:16.520 Okay, well, this is, we got to log off, 0.94

01:16:18.840 But this is a bonus poog law. 0.99

01:16:21.740 Oh, my God. 1.00

01:16:24.740 Imagine. 1.00

01:16:25.480 I'll be represented by poog. 1.00

01:16:27.380 Power suits, nine-inch heels. 1.00

01:16:30.360 They march in.

01:16:32.260 Oh, my God.

01:16:33.140 So, wait, I texted John.

01:16:34.760 By the way, I'm emailing the hotel.

01:16:36.680 We're getting more money off with your blessing.

01:16:38.980 More money off.

01:16:39.780 You're hysterical.

01:16:40.540 You're softening it for John.

01:16:41.620 Can you just say it?

01:16:43.780 Except John thinks I'm like,

01:16:45.100 John thinks I always think I'm being robbed.

01:16:46.860 I know.

01:16:47.660 Jacqueline.

01:16:48.060 whole state's free

01:16:49.120 Jacqueline

01:16:50.120 thinks

01:16:50.920 the whole state

01:16:53.620 their lucky violence

01:16:55.000 didn't occur

01:16:55.480 I'm not saying

01:17:01.460 devote your lives to it

01:17:02.500 I'm not saying

01:17:03.140 I'm not gonna lose sleep

01:17:04.260 I'm not gonna engage

01:17:05.180 in a big

01:17:05.480 I don't wanna fight

01:17:06.320 but I'm gonna write

01:17:07.520 an email and just go

01:17:08.220 you know what

01:17:09.160 I was shocked

01:17:10.160 to receive the bill

01:17:10.920 just run it past me

01:17:12.380 okay

01:17:12.540 I don't need any

01:17:13.240 softening language

01:17:14.000 well I'm definitely

01:17:14.560 running it past for you

01:17:15.300 are you kidding me

01:17:15.940 and you said

01:17:16.940 you're gonna contact

01:17:17.520 someone else

01:17:17.960 Yes.

01:17:18.380 To consult.

01:17:18.920 The friend who said the thing at the restaurant.

01:17:20.940 Okay, great.

01:17:21.840 All right.

01:17:22.180 Well, thank you.

01:17:22.880 I'm going to write the,

01:17:23.680 I'm going to pass the email in front of your eyes first

01:17:25.800 before I send it.

01:17:26.980 And here we go.

01:17:29.000 I just think it's, yeah,

01:17:29.660 I think it's worth noting that danger is possible.

01:17:33.060 That's for sure.

01:17:33.800 Maybe there's something that can be done.

01:17:35.520 Yeah.

01:17:36.120 Danger.

01:17:36.640 Okay.

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01:17:37.720 Love you. 1.00

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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - March 07, 2023

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