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00:02:35.440 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:36.900 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:02:38.000 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

00:02:42.720 Two untamable intellects.

00:02:44.520 This is our hobby. 0.97

00:02:45.360 This is our hell.

00:02:46.220 This is our naked desire for free products.

00:02:48.500 This is POOG.

00:02:49.920 Today's topic, loosely speaking,

00:02:52.000 Sparrows.

00:02:52.600 socks a knife above the bed

00:02:55.100 I miss you

00:03:00.440 I know it's great to see you

00:03:01.900 I miss my friend

00:03:02.740 I must say I actually

00:03:04.860 I'm radiating

00:03:06.120 yeah you look great

00:03:07.380 not the skin

00:03:08.800 well actually the skin is back

00:03:10.220 I actually had a moment in the mirror

00:03:11.960 where and I normally don't do this

00:03:13.760 I imagine myself sort of saying

00:03:15.200 yeah it just cleared up

00:03:16.620 yeah because you had an unusual acne

00:03:20.360 for you unheard of acne

00:03:22.520 unheard of. I sent you pics. I was like, you know, a friend send you a picture and you go,

00:03:27.580 oh, it's not that bad. I literally went, yeah, for you, that's insane.

00:03:30.360 Yeah. It was actually kind of thrilling because I knew I would get like, it was only a testament

00:03:36.300 to how good my skin usually is that I could get an authentic reaction back.

00:03:40.320 I think it was probably humbling for you to see how the rest of us live sometimes.

00:03:43.920 i was i was on my knees um well like just now for example i go let me just grab a product just so

00:03:54.760 i have something so i'm not trapped without a product because i was looking at kosha um kosha 0.81

00:04:01.620 spa the k i follow this woman i think i've sent you some of her stuff she does a lot of facial 0.75

00:04:07.580 massage oh of course well today she's talking about nostrils she was not not shaman beauty 0.99

00:04:13.240 shaman oh sorry beauty shaman was talking about yeah massaging and this is the thing massaging

00:04:18.820 the face it's all about massaging the face it literally is all about massaging the face and

00:04:23.220 it's essential practice folks if you're not touching your face well actually i saw someone

00:04:27.220 comment they're like massaging the body they're like all of it it's like it's right there and we

00:04:34.020 act like it's weird almost that the hands aren't in a constant state of self-touch i know like

00:04:41.340 well actually we can talk about this for 45 and we will because i have a lot to say i've had a

00:04:46.120 couple experiences lately where i'm in the bath yes and i'm with an oil massaging my face moaning

00:04:52.280 like it's like oh yeah all you have to do is a little oil go for by the way the ears when's the

00:05:01.540 last time and everyone you can do this at home really massage your ears the lobes that i mean

00:05:08.720 all of it you will you know the acupressure they do that thing with the ear i could be wrong with

00:05:14.820 this i feel like i've seen the ear represented as like a fetus like oh like the shape of it okay

00:05:21.320 and almost like that's the brain that's the you know when they're like similar to the what's the

00:05:26.200 other thing that oh yeah walnut whatever yeah patterns in it all and this all this vagus nerve

00:05:31.500 stuff that I can't seem to lock into, but it almost seems at this point, like everything you

00:05:39.100 do, right? What part of the face have you not seen represented in a video about touch this spot to do

00:05:46.300 this thing or like the body, right? Like massage this point. Every single spot on the body is

00:05:50.980 apparently a spot that is key for something. Yeah. So get it all. Get it all. Just go wild.

00:05:58.780 Yeah. 1.00

00:05:59.480 And Beauty Shaman has the reflexology. 0.68

00:06:01.580 I know nothing about reflexology.

00:06:02.900 What's that?

00:06:03.840 What I'm holding?

00:06:04.440 She's putting something on her face.

00:06:06.220 It's like a stick.

00:06:06.780 So a thing I grabbed on the way over, I pulled out of the beauty closet.

00:06:09.220 Because everything I see that you have, I go, did I get that?

00:06:11.660 Of course.

00:06:12.080 Is that Josie Merritt?

00:06:13.260 Yeah.

00:06:13.820 Argonne moisturizing stick.

00:06:15.220 Now, for the first time, humbled by my experience of acne.

00:06:17.980 I don't know if I got that.

00:06:18.800 Well, it might have been one of those things where they said, what are you interested in?

00:06:21.800 Yeah.

00:06:22.540 It's possible it's one of those.

00:06:23.680 Still waiting on self-services.

00:06:24.780 Well, you know, do we dare talk about the email exchange?

00:06:29.240 Sure, go for it. 0.97

00:06:30.040 There's nothing fucked up about it. 0.94

00:06:31.320 No, it's nothing. 0.96

00:06:31.980 We're not.

00:06:32.260 It was hysterical.

00:06:33.280 There was a back and forth in which they said, yes, tell us what products you're interested in.

00:06:38.360 Yeah.

00:06:38.580 Kate and I both did our deep work because, you know, making choices for us.

00:06:42.320 Really hard.

00:06:43.600 Massive trigger.

00:06:44.360 I think what I did, massive trigger, is I just went, I'll just take what Jacqueline wants.

00:06:47.600 Yes, that's huge.

00:06:48.740 And because you know I'll get in there.

00:06:50.160 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:50.440 I was like, I can't because I started looking at the website and I wanted it at all.

00:06:53.420 And sometimes that is the answer, but we put together a list and then the math of it, or not even the math, but the, the, I could give you an analysis of how I came to the list that would make you moan. Okay. And you'd know you had gotten it right. You know, like when you're like, wow, you're good. You know what I mean? When I, when I tell you things.

00:07:10.160 So anyway, I was humbled by the acne because just now as I grabbed it for this stick, I go, what is this that I'm about to rub all over my face?

00:07:17.400 Because now I'm someone who's afraid of products causing breakout.

00:07:21.440 But I grabbed this so that I could be in a constant state of massage.

00:07:24.300 That seems great.

00:07:25.180 I continue to fear the neck.

00:07:27.320 Yeah, that sounds really nice.

00:07:28.800 Yeah, this little stick.

00:07:30.100 Oh, but the soft surfaces, so we put together our list and then, and they were like, great, whatever.

00:07:34.660 And then Caper Lant.

00:07:37.240 Oh, it's my 1115 alarm.

00:07:38.820 It's how I always know it's 11.15.

00:07:41.620 I got stuck on once and I haven't turned it off.

00:07:43.920 And now I just, I don't know.

00:07:44.860 I sort of can't live without it.

00:07:45.920 Yeah.

00:07:46.640 Soaring on caffeine.

00:07:47.620 All right.

00:07:48.260 I need another.

00:07:49.060 I had a coffee at 8 a.m.

00:07:51.280 It's 11.15.

00:07:52.080 Wait, I want to know if I'm getting your machine,

00:07:53.700 but we're going to have to talk about it in a second.

00:07:54.760 Don't forget.

00:07:55.100 Getting my machine.

00:07:56.000 Aren't you considering?

00:07:57.520 Oh, yeah.

00:07:58.040 Okay.

00:07:58.980 All right.

00:07:59.380 We'll talk about it.

00:08:00.140 So it all comes around in the end.

00:08:03.060 All right.

00:08:03.980 So you go, you know, it's like you're back in LA.

00:08:06.580 It's like back on the emails, you know?

00:08:08.300 I know. So I checked it. So this was like a movie, maybe two months ago that this

00:08:12.420 self-services email came through.

00:08:13.920 Yeah. Nothing's arrived. You go, hey, I just want to, I'd be horrified if we dropped the

00:08:19.600 ball on this thread.

00:08:21.320 Did I say, no, I think I said that we dropped the ball because I got confused and I thought

00:08:25.460 we had.

00:08:26.100 Oh, but either way, I thought it was hysterical and genius. Okay. When, cause I was like,

00:08:30.660 ha ha. You said that when we are the last email on the very thread, like us saying like,

00:08:35.800 We're so excited, you know, for the products or whatever.

00:08:37.860 Like, and I kind of loved it because they were like, yeah, we got them.

00:08:41.280 And like right now we're pausing on, you know, it was like right now we're not sending stuff out because blah, blah, blah.

00:08:46.600 And, you know, fair enough.

00:08:51.500 But I thought it was a genius idea to roll in like another scenario is act like you believe you dropped the ball wildly apologizing only to alert the other that in fact it was bad. 0.68

00:09:01.540 So let's talk about the skin.

00:09:02.520 Let's talk about massaging the skin.

00:09:03.580 I'm not dead on the topic.

00:09:04.720 You came in hard.

00:09:05.580 worrying about folds. Yeah. So these headphones I have on, they kind of push down the ears and

00:09:10.360 the skin. They kind of make you more droopy. And last night I was doing some closeup work in the

00:09:15.760 mirror. I was, you ever catch yourself in such unflattering lighting that you lean in just to

00:09:20.400 you almost like lean into the harder. Yeah. So I realized this is unflattering lighting. And

00:09:25.020 instead of just knowing that moving on, I kind of stared for a while and almost kind of moved

00:09:29.860 my face around so that the shadowing, the lighting that it was creating would create like

00:09:33.140 a work shadow yes yes and by the way i'm two inches from the mirror my face my nose is

00:09:37.540 practically touching yes my mirror nose and it was a little scary well leaning in going let's

00:09:46.220 scare myself in the bathroom mirror in the airplane oh for fun i would go really close

00:09:51.400 because you're sitting there you go like dead-eyed like you try to make yeah stranger i'd go dead-eyed

00:09:56.560 but sometimes i've done that in the back in the airplane bathroom where i can't explain it i just

00:10:00.860 try to scare myself through the eye contact like i imagine like what if i dissociated completely

00:10:05.680 yes what if i went into the bathroom myself and came out with like a psychotic break that

00:10:10.160 can never be restored right the tininess the booth the sort of superman's booth okay to come

00:10:17.540 in one way and emerge the other yeah a sense of the capsule the coffin that is the the airplane

00:10:24.040 bathroom now i always experience it like when that toilet does that thing where it sucks the stuff

00:10:30.040 down that is shooting it out into the air the sky below yeah which it isn't yeah what are they doing

00:10:36.940 they're saving it and then a little truck pulls it away i've seen the truck

00:10:40.720 yeah saving it is a repulsive way to phrase it but yeah that wow

00:10:46.720 sorry i i know it might be distracting she's got her finger inside her mouth

00:10:52.880 buckle massage what does that do everything apparently it's the future and that's why i

00:10:57.120 want to go to Kosha Spa, but I don't know. I feel like there's going to be a three-month waiting

00:11:01.480 list and it's really hard for me to book anything. I mean, emotionally, like, you know, book anything

00:11:06.500 in advance. It's too, I want to know. I got to get way back in the microcurrent. I fell off and

00:11:10.700 I feel it in the cheeks. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know if we've discussed this, but the cheeks

00:11:15.640 are not just skin that is being tent-pulled between a muscle on the upper cheek and whatever

00:11:21.680 the job this is not just skin because don't you kind of think of it as just skin dripped on the

00:11:28.280 face you mean that that's a muscle yes because skin isn't that thick right right sure i'm pretty

00:11:34.520 sure again this is all muscle and i feel knots oh god the knots okay wait i'm looking at my little

00:11:45.740 because i want to say that i am your list so first i want to say thank you to everyone who's reached

00:11:50.860 out about because we put out a call for home organizers on the pod we got beautiful responses

00:11:56.100 apologies if we haven't responded please know that it was felt deeply and we had an overwhelming

00:12:00.700 i felt overwhelmed because it's an embarrassment of riches right well i also felt like my first

00:12:04.900 thought was okay some of these i might not be able to like there's a lot here but i was impressed by

00:12:09.900 all the different people talking about their services and so my thought was please send

00:12:15.560 through on the Instagram a thing about your business. Yeah. And we'll repost and be like,

00:12:21.220 they reached out. A hundred percent. Look at their cool business. I just thought like,

00:12:23.980 that'd be easy for us to do, to honor the, to honor the offerings. Absolutely. And get the

00:12:29.000 name out there. I just had a couple of the women from space camp over and they came into my home. 1.00

00:12:34.520 They had a great email. By the way, they had a great email. By the way, they left about 15 1.00

00:12:38.160 minutes ago. Came in and this is, and by the way, I want to say something here. Right now,

00:12:42.680 march right now in this moment i talked to this woman whatever she's told me not the space camp

00:12:48.800 someone else and she was like everyone is going through it right now she's like this is a really

00:12:52.940 intense time oh wait this is about saturn something with that because there's something

00:12:56.420 going on that hasn't happened in 30 years yeah okay hardly ever happens you know that's a creepy

00:13:02.600 quote from watch from the woods we should talk about later but anyway it hardly ever happens you

00:13:06.460 know okay and apparently i think i saw like it's very typical like the cut or something they're 0.85

00:13:12.080 like shit is about to get weird. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I need to look into this. I need to hear 0.98

00:13:18.240 about this because, but anyway, so I had that in my mind and I feel things are moving around. I'm

00:13:22.560 like, Hmm, the stagnant energy is I need to, and I've been saying this for my whole life, but

00:13:28.100 you know, got to reorganize, got to purge, got to do it. They come in, they start measuring.

00:13:33.240 Oh, wow. Oh, we can do things here. We can do drawers here. They start measuring the relaxation

00:13:37.680 in my body. And I went, it's going to change. I'm opening up doors so that, you know, I rent this

00:13:43.120 old house, small bungalow. Some of the drawers are so old that opening them causes physical and

00:13:50.560 emotional pain because they drag. So it's like, well, no wonder I'm not organized. I'm a drawer

00:13:55.160 opening that drawer. I have to crouch down. I mean, I have to opening the drawers as hell.

00:13:59.460 Exactly. So how am I? And they, and they said, do you hear that? It's a box inside of a wood

00:14:07.600 frame it's horrible and like my office door for example won't open like it's like swelled

00:14:13.800 they go we have a handyman he will shave off the bottom of that door you'll be able to open it easy

00:14:20.920 easy the handyman we have this whole thing with the drawers they go we're going to put something

00:14:25.220 on this drawer so even though it's an old drawer it's going to open like butter no i go what no

00:14:29.540 twin peaks there was a character who was obsessed with the sound of i think the her blinds and it

00:14:34.680 It was like all day, every day trying to, she finally invented like something that made it

00:14:39.260 smooth. Yeah. No, these are the little indignities, the little ways that we're

00:14:43.220 crucified every day in our home. Tolerances. Remember that book I read in a TJ Maxx? I found

00:14:47.720 a self-help book inside of a TJ Maxx and plucked wisdom from it because I'm a scavenger. She was

00:14:53.380 like, a lot of energy goes into like, or gets depleted or into these minor tolerances. Okay.

00:14:59.960 And part of it's ADD, okay?

00:15:01.720 Part of it's the ADD. 1.00

00:15:03.020 And by the way, fuck you, okay? 1.00

00:15:05.780 I Googled something about ADD, looking to see like latest research. 1.00

00:15:09.400 First book comes up, ADHD is not real.

00:15:13.080 Okay?

00:15:13.820 It's like, meet me and tell me it's not real.

00:15:16.520 Yeah, yeah.

00:15:17.120 But whatever.

00:15:17.840 Why am I turning around a point?

00:15:19.100 Something I said led me to glance over there.

00:15:22.080 Drawers.

00:15:24.040 Tolerances.

00:15:24.840 Oh, yeah.

00:15:25.760 So these minor things that you go, you know, like the wiggly.

00:15:30.120 Okay, like I have a lot of loose outlets.

00:15:32.320 And by the way, those can wake you in the night with the fear of electrical fire.

00:15:35.400 But the kind where the thing doesn't stay in.

00:15:40.780 Oof, yeah.

00:15:41.920 So it's constantly knocking out with the wind.

00:15:43.920 Like, oh, that lamps out.

00:15:45.880 Why?

00:15:46.240 And you have to stick it back in.

00:15:47.640 So I've realized I live with a lot of stepping over things.

00:15:52.200 Okay.

00:15:53.080 And I immediately adjust to it.

00:15:55.160 Wait, have you ever done the thing?

00:15:56.380 This is huge.

00:15:57.700 Where in order to see your space and like what's actually going on, you take a photo.

00:16:01.360 No, that's cool.

00:16:02.780 And then you can look at it.

00:16:03.660 The shift into two dimensional.

00:16:05.380 Emotional and detached.

00:16:06.540 Yeah.

00:16:06.780 It all becomes clear.

00:16:08.620 I mean, it's almost like when you take a photo, like you try to like just quickly show someone something like their kitchen or something.

00:16:13.340 And you take a photo and you go to send it. 0.98

00:16:15.140 You're like, oh, God, that's not shit. 0.98

00:16:17.160 That's not what I think. 0.98

00:16:18.200 Like, that's going to poorly reflect.

00:16:20.120 Yeah.

00:16:20.340 Like, so relatedly, as I told you, I donated 19, I think, bags of clothes.

00:16:27.260 By the way, 19?

00:16:28.860 I have three bags in my trunk right now.

00:16:31.700 And that even that, wow.

00:16:33.320 It was two trips to this bin and there were a couple bins near me and, you know, whatever.

00:16:39.540 And maybe it's not the whatever, but I had to get it out and I had to make it not a project.

00:16:45.140 You know what I mean?

00:16:45.560 Like, because I started to go into like, it kind of reminds me like also not being able

00:16:49.480 see it reminds me like my mom wants like someone like I don't know why this would have happened

00:16:52.880 but it was like do you have a sombrero okay again my mother was like wait I think there

00:17:00.360 might be a sombrero hanging on my doorknob and it's been there for five years okay and it was

00:17:07.140 almost like it just went there once and then it just stayed there yeah and you know you don't see

00:17:14.040 it so i so yeah so i went through these clothes and because frankly my energy healer woman right

00:17:21.540 she was like that corner back there it's stagnant with all those clothes and all this whatever she 0.99

00:17:27.380 could see the corner behind me you gotta move it through and she's like get in there move it through

00:17:31.240 and she's like you know what put a light over there there's nothing she's like there's nothing

00:17:36.780 there's nothing dark like you know it's not like whatever but i had like went wild cleared it out

00:17:41.560 that night and then had like a desk lamp angled up into the corner and I let it go all night like

00:17:47.020 I was like whatever's here I'm I'm conscious great

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00:20:01.000 This is Ryder Strong,

00:20:01.960 And I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.

00:20:05.120 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.

00:20:10.060 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune.

00:20:13.880 It was hard to wrap your head around.

00:20:15.220 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

00:20:18.860 No, I am not your guru.

00:20:22.620 And back then, I lied to my parents.

00:20:25.260 I lied to police.

00:20:26.520 I lied to everybody.

00:20:27.520 There were years right where I could not say your name.

00:20:30.300 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,

00:20:33.180 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,

00:20:36.000 whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.

00:20:39.340 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods

00:20:42.260 and not the obvious boyfriend?

00:20:43.940 They have had this case for 30 years. 0.92

00:20:46.860 I'll teach you sons of a** to come around here and my wife. 0.90

00:20:49.900 Boom, boom. 0.97

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00:21:00.300 The more you listen to your kids, the closer you'll be.

00:21:04.600 So we asked kids, what do you want your parents to hear?

00:21:09.040 I feel sometimes that I'm not listened to.

00:21:11.300 I would just want you to listen to me more often and evaluate situations with me and lead me towards success.

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00:21:36.420 I've declared stock bankruptcy.

00:21:38.540 This is huge for me.

00:21:39.140 They're all gone?

00:21:39.820 Well, basically, yeah.

00:21:40.900 I have eight left.

00:21:41.820 I need to...

00:21:42.700 Okay, it's incredible.

00:21:44.080 It's incredible.

00:21:44.840 It was like a garbage bag full. 1.00

00:21:46.920 Okay, and I go, getting rid of anything that isn't like a Thorlo?

00:21:52.560 You know Thorlo?

00:21:53.900 No.

00:21:54.220 It's like a...

00:21:55.980 I don't know.

00:21:56.460 You see it in like REI.

00:21:57.580 It's kind of like quality hiking, like sport, whatever.

00:22:00.340 I was like, anything that's not like a Thorlo that my mother gave me.

00:22:04.460 Okay.

00:22:05.180 Anything that doesn't fit.

00:22:06.180 Anything that's like completely just destroyed.

00:22:07.880 I'm looking at a Roomba.

00:22:09.180 I'm looking at an off-brand that has not been, that's sitting there.

00:22:14.220 And I promise you this, has not been turned on in two years.

00:22:16.980 I have one as well.

00:22:18.140 What do you think?

00:22:18.780 Do I start using it again?

00:22:19.200 Did you feel the promise of the Roomba?

00:22:20.780 Oh, no.

00:22:22.420 Yeah.

00:22:23.360 The promise of the Roomba.

00:22:24.540 Let's talk about it.

00:22:25.740 The fantasy. 1.00

00:22:26.360 The fucking fantasy of it. 1.00

00:22:28.060 The fantasy of the Roomba. 1.00

00:22:28.900 Those people, by the way, the Roomba people.

00:22:31.340 It's working. 1.00

00:22:32.380 They have blood on their hands.

00:22:33.680 Oh, they have blood on their hands?

00:22:34.480 They have psychological blood. 1.00

00:22:36.740 Well, the Roomba people, but the sheer violence, okay, of what they were able to do to us. 1.00

00:22:44.220 Hearing it knock. 1.00

00:22:45.140 Well.

00:22:45.700 Well, by the way, I'm just going to say, I remember going to John's house.

00:22:48.840 Okay.

00:22:49.720 The chairs are up on the table, not the bottom.

00:22:52.060 No, see, there it is.

00:22:53.020 You're telling me, so you're going, okay, I'm going to go run errands for a couple hours.

00:22:57.620 Let me go ahead and clear the house, flip the chairs up, and let the Roomba do its thing.

00:23:03.920 What?

00:23:04.060 At that point, why aren't I doing it?

00:23:06.940 The reason I don't want to vacuum is because I don't want to clear the floor.

00:23:10.720 Okay, now there's this promise, and this is a secondary promise.

00:23:14.300 The blood on their hands, though, it's almost earned.

00:23:16.900 I'm like, you tapped into fantasy so well that I congratulate you for taking my money.

00:23:22.680 They're laughing at the steakhouse.

00:23:25.560 And we did enjoy, you know, the moment of purchasing and the fantasy.

00:23:29.800 And I'm not even done.

00:23:31.200 I'm like considering getting it out today.

00:23:33.060 I'm like, well, I'm looking at it right now going, I'm going to do it.

00:23:34.960 But let's get into it.

00:23:36.580 Okay.

00:23:37.100 Here's the secondary fantasy.

00:23:38.360 But what about, oh, do you have to clear your chairs?

00:23:40.160 Da, da, da, da, da.

00:23:41.040 And they go, no, the AI, the intelligence.

00:23:45.120 And it's this little picture.

00:23:46.180 Can you imagine?

00:23:46.580 It won't hurt your cat.

00:23:47.320 It bumps up against the chair.

00:23:49.820 It bumps up against a second time.

00:23:51.520 And then it goes, and it adjusts.

00:23:54.720 That's what it's like built to do.

00:23:57.420 But I think it's a known thing that people sit there staring at their Roombas,

00:24:01.700 like they're walking around behind the Roomba, micromanaging it and like helping it.

00:24:06.340 Yeah.

00:24:06.660 Where like, well, let's talk about the weight of a regular vacuum.

00:24:11.460 Yeah.

00:24:11.860 So here's the thing.

00:24:13.160 I have a cord vacuum.

00:24:14.760 Yes.

00:24:15.300 They do have a cordless vacuum and those cost what?

00:24:17.440 $6,000?

00:24:18.480 I mean, it's not that bad.

00:24:19.520 I mean, particularly not.

00:24:20.640 I know I'm joking, but am I making my life so much harder?

00:24:26.200 Is this like the Tom Bin?

00:24:28.780 Yeah. 1.00

00:24:29.320 Like, is this like you carrying a shoulder bag through the airport like a fucking asshole? 1.00

00:24:35.340 Like a fucking loser. 1.00

00:24:36.900 Okay. 1.00

00:24:37.120 And you were worried that a backpack wouldn't be sexy.

00:24:39.100 You know what's sexy? 1.00

00:24:39.820 Having a fucking neck that still works. 1.00

00:24:42.060 Oh my God. 1.00

00:24:43.200 Yeah.

00:24:44.600 Bin changed you.

00:24:46.680 Cordless vacuum is big.

00:24:47.880 I have a gift from my mother from years ago.

00:24:50.640 a dyson okay and you're not writing to me are you sorry one second it happened where i

00:24:59.280 uh you ever you ever cancel therapy and then realize because the scheduling must happen

00:25:08.160 all of that and then you realize oh i'm gonna be charged anyway and you go well then i gotta do it

00:25:13.240 you're making a face right now that i've never seen what are you doing right now in this moment

00:25:16.140 I need to know. What are you doing? What do I need to know? What was I need to know just now?

00:25:22.600 What exactly you were reading, thinking about? This is a face that I just saw is an expression.

00:25:31.080 It was something I've never seen. So you have to get the complete honesty. You have to say what

00:25:37.520 happened. Totally. There's nothing crazy. So you were like, hold on a second. So I decided,

00:25:42.160 or I don't recall deciding

00:25:43.840 automatically command tab

00:25:46.260 flew across. I command

00:25:48.080 tabbed over to email, saw an email

00:25:49.840 and

00:25:51.280 I just got this email from a friend who

00:25:54.080 had listened to Poog and it said

00:25:55.820 so I was reading it while you were doing whatever you were doing

00:25:58.140 and I was trying to read it fast

00:26:00.140 because I felt you coming back

00:26:02.420 and so there was something

00:26:04.180 whatever and I was trying to process what it was

00:26:06.300 she goes second

00:26:07.260 first I love the Squatty Potty ad at the top

00:26:10.300 of your episode which you know

00:26:12.120 We have, sadly, no control.

00:26:14.140 Although, I do believe in Squatty Body.

00:26:16.280 I was an early adopter.

00:26:17.680 Second, I was staying at the Standard in New York a decade or so ago, super pregnant. 0.97

00:26:22.180 Some woman started banging frantically on my door at 10 to 11 p.m., telling me that someone was chasing her and I needed to let her in.

00:26:28.540 I refused and told her I would call security. 1.00

00:26:30.940 Then she started pleading with me that could she please come in and get something that fell on the balcony.

00:26:36.940 Okay, here, yeah.

00:26:38.660 Pleading and pleading and crying.

00:26:40.960 Finally, security shows up, comes into my room,

00:26:43.420 and there was a bag of meth on my balcony.

00:26:45.420 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:26:46.820 And then they comped my whole stay.

00:26:49.120 Where was she staying? 1.00

00:26:49.900 Let's just take a...

00:26:51.140 Did you hear the last part?

00:26:52.380 And they comped the whole stay.

00:26:53.680 Well, here's a little update, folks.

00:26:56.020 Huge update on the Jamaica gate.

00:26:57.340 Did you get a response from the company?

00:26:59.600 So first, I'm going to have you sit with this for a second.

00:27:02.720 I send the email.

00:27:03.440 I send an incredible email that Jacqueline helped me craft.

00:27:06.080 Oh.

00:27:06.500 And I think the really important element of the email

00:27:08.660 that Jacqueline brought in was

00:27:09.960 something could have happened here. 0.93

00:27:12.660 There could have been a violent altercation

00:27:14.560 between two nonviolent people.

00:27:15.960 Okay, that was my language.

00:27:17.000 Who both thought somebody else was in their room. 0.99

00:27:19.480 And that is the goddamn truth, okay? 0.99

00:27:21.360 I almost threw in, 0.98

00:27:22.380 have you seen the last episode of season one

00:27:24.140 of White Lotus, folks?

00:27:26.040 You know what I mean?

00:27:26.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, totally.

00:27:27.820 So.

00:27:28.160 Literally happens, right?

00:27:29.440 So.

00:27:29.780 Sorry, spoiler.

00:27:31.000 I send the email.

00:27:32.260 You know, it's curt, but it's not rude.

00:27:34.260 It's not, anyway, I send it.

00:27:35.720 A day passes.

00:27:36.520 Okay, two days pass.

00:27:38.020 three days pass I respond hi just wanted to follow up on this thank you

00:27:46.780 nothing another day still nothing okay and then I say it's extremely disappointing

00:27:56.300 something along the lines of yeah and I almost said Kate just let it go I said no

00:28:01.380 it's incredibly disappointing to have just been ignored ignored and then within like 10 minutes

00:28:06.500 I get a response. Hi, we're sending this to the manager of the hotel, blah, blah, blah. And I

00:28:11.160 say, thank you so much for your attention. And? And now we wait. And how long ago was that?

00:28:16.080 That was yesterday. I mean, all I can say is, are they consulting legal or are they completely

00:28:22.680 asleep at the wheel? I don't know. But the point is, everyone, thank you for your support and your

00:28:29.440 outreach over the Jamaica situation. We're waiting. I'll let you know. We'll see what happens.

00:28:35.400 But I have to say, a lot of people, we got some people saying, you should be calm for the whole stay.

00:28:40.000 But everyone, I have to say, has been in agreement that a night should be free.

00:28:43.920 This is hysterical that all these people are to reach out and say, I mean, I think the night for sure.

00:28:53.160 Okay.

00:28:53.940 They're selling you short in the abstract.

00:28:58.400 And that, to me, suggests that everybody is deranged.

00:29:02.640 You mean because you still think the whole stay should be free?

00:29:04.660 Here's what I'll say. The keys from another room worked in your room for the whole stay.

00:29:11.400 Okay. Okay. If there's a knife dangling above your bed for however many nights and one night,

00:29:17.800 it falls. Compensated for the night it fell. Metaphor can save us. Okay.

00:29:25.600 By the way. Yeah. How offended would you be if I just now ran to the kitchen?

00:29:29.380 Not at all. Turned on my oven to 400 so it'll preheat.

00:29:32.220 Not in the slightest.

00:29:32.880 Because guess what?

00:29:33.680 That oven hasn't been used in a while by me.

00:29:35.820 Guess who's got some Japanese yams?

00:29:37.780 Guess who's got a jar of Himalayan salt? 0.86

00:29:39.960 Literally always a yam with you.

00:29:41.020 I haven't done a yam in so long, Jacqueline.

00:29:44.200 I don't have that much food in the house right now.

00:29:46.440 I'm going to do a Japanese yam.

00:29:48.400 I'm going to do broccoli.

00:29:50.000 Fresh?

00:29:50.560 Nutritional yeast. 0.96

00:29:51.440 Because I will say, you know, bird's eye steam fresh in favor of legitimate organic broccoli or whatever the fuck, right? 0.74

00:30:00.800 means I ate broccoli every night. 0.80

00:30:04.020 So I'm meeting-

00:30:04.720 Bird's eye.

00:30:05.100 Wait, what are you saying to me?

00:30:06.060 Okay.

00:30:06.520 I need to understand.

00:30:07.580 In your local freezer aisle.

00:30:09.320 Oh, well, frozen organic vegetables are fabulous.

00:30:11.660 No, these are not organic.

00:30:15.180 Okay, the organic brands have not yet.

00:30:18.280 I'm sure some have, and I hope they reach out.

00:30:20.920 The organic brands, go, go, go, go do it.

00:30:23.720 I can feel it pulling on you.

00:30:25.200 Go do it, and then I'll talk about bird's eye.

00:30:28.600 Clomp, clomp, clomp. 0.99

00:30:30.340 Meanwhile, pretty sure I saw that she made the people from space camp take off their shoes in her home. 0.55

00:30:43.760 Clomp, clomp, clomp, wearing a boot in the house.

00:30:46.240 Is that what?

00:30:46.960 Do I hear a hard shoe?

00:30:48.660 Yeah.

00:30:48.840 You know what this is, honey?

00:30:50.360 It's my home shoe.

00:30:51.620 Okay.

00:30:52.040 The Artemis.

00:30:53.060 Oh, okay.

00:30:53.700 Hell yeah.

00:30:54.180 The gift.

00:30:54.480 So Artemis designs.

00:30:55.660 The beautiful Artemis designs.

00:30:56.480 this is now my home shoe and it has a slight heel i have a home shoe too we should we should we

00:31:02.160 should repost a healed home shoe yeah i'm tempted to grab mine right now and by the way it's called

00:31:07.340 sensuality and i have to say i'm purging my home i'm reorganizing but i also i'm thinking i want

00:31:13.900 to cross that with a energy kind of healer home space well one reached out who was absolutely in

00:31:22.540 that realm and i i was thinking you know layers gross because i need my house to also emanate 0.89

00:31:30.080 sex yeah sensuality yeah i need the abalone shell to be yeah i need to be not only turned on by my 0.99

00:31:38.420 home i need this to be where i am fucking myself constantly every every daily ritual 1.00

00:31:48.180 has to feel like sex has to have not only pleasure but pain no there's no pain in it just just and 0.99

00:31:55.840 this is where we get into every ritual right every ritual pouring of the coffee the pouring

00:31:59.980 of the coffee should alone and by the way i do when i have the arroyo d coconut milk with the

00:32:06.940 elmhurst and my new blend that i've that i'm creating that is a sacred ritual trying to think

00:32:13.320 if i have any going right now um the cabinets are stuffed with dishes that need to go mixed 0.94

00:32:18.660 match hell i don't have a fucking water glass that makes sense in my life i'm drinking water 0.96

00:32:25.300 out of a cocktail glass like a psycho oh or i mean not like a martini glass but like a like 0.98

00:32:30.980 what about water in a mug water in a mug water in a mug happens for me four times a year and it's

00:32:36.000 always such a rock bottom that i i won't let myself do it but when i do it it's really hard

00:32:40.780 and I have a water glass that doesn't contain enough water for me. So then you know what I'm

00:32:45.180 doing? I'm sitting here. This is a Beaker brand glass. Do I don't want to drink water in my home?

00:32:52.240 I think Beaker reached out. Did you follow up? No, I've purchased this out of pocket years ago.

00:32:56.280 Okay. I'm pretty sure. Beaker reached out? I'm pretty fucking sure. Beaker is the best.

00:33:01.600 Is it EA? Is it? BKR. Oh, of course. Okay. Someone reached out. Maybe it wasn't Beaker,

00:33:09.060 but it was in that realm of on the go interesting food storage and I want to be doing that do I want

00:33:17.940 to be on the go do I want to be drinking out of this in the house though I want like a water

00:33:23.560 glass that's exciting reminds me of this is very me like I don't know in my 20s or something in

00:33:29.580 New York you know like deciding like to treat myself okay you're staring at the water bottle

00:33:34.340 and reminded me bird's eye okay the broccoli but like going like to anthropology and like oh my god

00:33:42.060 that was like you know the ornate looking colored pink glass oh sure single glass you know and

00:33:47.920 particularly when there would be like home sale in anthropology and i'd be like this is how i'm 0.93

00:33:51.960 gonna little by little yeah turn into a woman yeah i remember like like holy shit a rug was

00:33:57.620 rug was on sale there yeah and it was like rolled up it was probably like had you been used in the 0.94

00:34:02.680 store like disgusting but like in my mind it was like the height of like i was like i have to like

00:34:07.760 i was like hauling it home i bought a floor model west elm couch that oh right i forgot about that

00:34:14.040 it was such a dark what was it the dunham now thank god what the dunham maybe it was the one

00:34:18.920 that like every commercial every like pharmaceutical ad has one in the background is it is it kind of

00:34:26.500 like those big puffy gray yeah well that thing had to go and it did and i yeah little but i got

00:34:33.280 a single pink water glass going from anthropology like okay even if it's and it's like one you know

00:34:38.600 it's like this is gonna be my water glass and you know i mean frankly though what i return to is my

00:34:45.540 what's it called my sport top or something it's the water bottle i return to again and again

00:34:49.920 because it's with a single click of the thumb it opens and i'm drinking and then with my index

00:34:55.760 finger, I flap it down closed. And that works for me. If I have to unscrew in order to drink,

00:35:00.880 it's not happening. Okay. Well, beaker is a screw. Think about unscrewing. Beaker is a screw. One,

00:35:04.380 two, three. Yeah. I think it usually takes three and a half. One, two, three. Yeah.

00:35:09.680 Then wide mouth. Well, the wide mouth, guess what? Wide mouth. Okay. So it's pouring down

00:35:13.900 the sides of my face. It's pouring to the termini. It's all over my tits. The termini,

00:35:18.200 by the way. What's that? We need to talk about termini before the day ends. What's that?

00:35:21.600 it's where the lymph nodes deposit back into the they flush out and deposit back into the

00:35:27.280 bloodstream or whatever i didn't know that wait okay this is huge i thought i sent you the

00:35:31.840 someone's video okay so so collarbone right grab it okay okay in the hole there yeah in the basket

00:35:39.880 of the collarbone pump that's where i have sparrows drink water every morning

00:35:44.240 okay wait where that where you have some drink of water i was imagining myself with two

00:35:52.920 clenching up my shoulders creating two pools and then imagine two sparrows coming to drink

00:35:57.940 water in the morning yes the tiny tiny ones okay baby sparrows yeah so push push now now it is 0.62

00:36:04.200 fucking neck muscle tight in there so i don't even know how i'm going to get it done and it's 0.87

00:36:07.820 so typical so i see this woman i go it was this video she goes you probably didn't watch the end 0.99

00:36:12.060 and that's probably what happened. She goes, what's the one wellness thing I do every single

00:36:17.300 morning? And she goes, you know, not dry brushing, not coconut oil pulling. Not stretching. 0.87

00:36:25.180 The oil pulling people have to go. It's just not.

00:36:29.580 See yourself to the door, oil pullers. They're like, you know, three minutes. And I sometimes

00:36:35.340 think like the improvements made by oil pulling, I have to wonder, are they strictly due to

00:36:40.960 the improvements made from the self-discipline of being able to achieve the oil pulling.

00:36:45.920 Well, by the way, I would say the oil pulling data can't be real because you're compiling data

00:36:51.360 from oil pullers. So if somebody is an oil puller, it's like, well, they're so, look at these,

00:36:56.880 all these benefits. They're sleeping well, their digestion. It's not about the, it's because

00:37:01.200 they're oil pullers. So that means they're living like goddamn months. They're already vegan. 0.99

00:37:05.220 They're already living as months. You know what I mean? It's not. Yeah. Yeah. I remember my life

00:37:09.660 was nearly ruined by reading about Gwyneth Paltrow waking up and she was like, I take the

00:37:14.900 coconut oil. I swish it around in my mouth as I open up the curtains and, you know, kind of wake

00:37:20.520 up the house in the morning. Right, right. And I thought, what is this life that I have? And it

00:37:26.160 made me feel, and by the way, by the way, I want to be clear. I oil pulled for about two weeks in

00:37:32.220 New York when I was living in New York. Really? That's how ahead of the curve I was. I oil pulled

00:37:35.980 for like two days i think i probably didn't do two weeks i mean so she she runs through all these

00:37:43.420 other ones some of them i was like like hadn't even heard of dry brushing the teeth we got to

00:37:47.500 be careful about the toothpaste though we got to get on that we got to be using making sure we're

00:37:51.540 using clean toothpaste why because we're currently because you're swallowing it cleansing we're

00:37:55.560 swallowing it plastic the chemicals in there oh yeah i almost had a meltdown because i was reading

00:38:00.100 about the chemicals and floss and i was like i here i am religiously flossing almost twice a day 0.99

00:38:05.340 now for years and you mean to tell me the crest fucking bullshit that I've been depositing right 0.99

00:38:12.440 into the gum line yeah yeah you've just been making a micro deposit well still better still 0.99

00:38:17.560 better to floss I think so water flosser nope nope nope I don't know if you know the joy of

00:38:22.360 water flossing what do you know no no no what are you saying oh it's not as good what are you saying

00:38:27.640 the water flosser you want to talk about the Roomba people you're wrong my dentist

00:38:34.400 dentists recommend it but it's both both both you got to do both both yeah if you have a counter

00:38:42.180 if i had a counter if i had a football field size counter now as you know i have a pedestal

00:38:47.260 molded pedestal that doesn't have a single flat surface on it that's crazy yeah you don't need

00:38:52.340 the one with the water reservoir there's a travel one fill it up and go fill it up and go

00:38:56.740 interesting finally okay okay it's like a standing thing and it just you put in one serving of water

00:39:04.260 And what I, you know, I'm into the periogen.

00:39:06.200 I'm stunned by their work and think it's the answer.

00:39:10.160 And so I actually took my sport top because I know it's the only,

00:39:13.620 I sacrificed my sport top to pre-mix periogen with water

00:39:17.240 because it will hold for at least a week or something.

00:39:19.420 Wow.

00:39:19.940 Put it in the bathroom.

00:39:21.020 Where does it stand?

00:39:22.480 Because there is no counter on the bathtub.

00:39:25.460 I mean, oh no, I've got those rolling things now.

00:39:27.740 No, I have those rolling things that are actually huge.

00:39:29.540 They're three inch thick.

00:39:31.900 I mean, like narrow.

00:39:33.700 narrow rolling basket shelf meanwhile filled with products I never used so yeah I felt very seen by

00:39:39.980 the space camp people today because they said they were like wow because they came into my

00:39:44.640 bathroom and I have you know very limited very limited space very small sink really limited

00:39:50.560 oh witness yeah they were like wow that's really small I was like yeah it really is yeah yeah you're

00:39:56.640 like thank you like it isn't just me it's like yeah the validation they're like it's one of the

00:40:00.540 smallest we've seen um bird's eye so so here's what I'm trying to say there's nothing more

00:40:09.120 convenient than grabbing bird's eye on the freezer aisle I think it's bird's eye I don't

00:40:15.440 know you know it's one of those classics right steam fresh it's called steam fresh throw it in

00:40:20.700 the microwave five minutes steam's in the bag okay now I know it's terrifying it's like being

00:40:26.240 cooked by plastic. Sure. We're bypassing that. Yeah. Okay. We bypass that, dump it out. And

00:40:31.720 that's, that's, it's that or it's nothing. I will not visit with a, with a head of broccoli. It's

00:40:39.040 over. I will not visit with a head of broccoli. I consider a bag of florets. I love chopping

00:40:44.200 into the broccoli. I have to say, I love the fresh broccoli, the stem, sauteed, liquid aminos,

00:40:51.060 nutritional yeast. Well, yeah, the toppings on the broccoli, but I'm saying, I mean,

00:40:54.960 I'm cooking avocado oil because I got so scared the flavor isn't there the way it is.

00:40:59.020 I'm really going to have to adjust to the flavor of avocado oil.

00:41:01.800 It's a little upsetting.

00:41:03.260 Well, I think the answer is you cook with one oil

00:41:06.440 and then you essentially season with the oil of your preferred flavoring.

00:41:10.980 Well, that's what I did today.

00:41:12.040 When I would make crack slaw, that's what it was called,

00:41:15.280 with cabbage and other things.

00:41:17.780 Okay.

00:41:18.100 I want to look up because I'd like to shout out.

00:41:20.780 Okay, we have a...

00:41:23.120 Oh, weather alert?

00:41:24.000 oh no an endangered person both of us this is interesting oh we both got this endangered

00:41:29.480 missing advisory is there here's what i want to know is there a photo of the person because

00:41:36.560 there's not a photo also it just disappeared there is a photo i'm gonna click on the link

00:41:41.000 like i can't when i click on it nothing happens is that happening on your screen

00:41:44.800 found there's a woman an elderly woman who's who's missing um so when i click on it or hold

00:41:52.120 my thumb down on it it will not open why is that because i'm in do not disturb twitter which just

00:41:56.620 won't just won't do anything it is so abrasive a sound that i do wonder if they need to consider

00:42:03.880 whether that sound might create more tragedies than it protects like if that went off in my car 0.96

00:42:08.780 that's really smart and also because the sound is so bad you get the fuck you just exit out of it 0.89

00:42:13.600 you know what i mean like people maybe you're just making people less likely to maybe to sit 0.85

00:42:18.800 And then it just becomes this animal instinct of like, whatever that sound is, get it away, get it away.

00:42:23.240 Stop, stop. 1.00

00:42:24.580 Wait, fuck. 1.00

00:42:25.500 What was I saying? 1.00

00:42:26.240 There was something I was saying that I wanted to say.

00:42:28.740 Broccoli and the oils.

00:42:29.500 And I have something to offer about the seasoning and the oils that go on.

00:42:32.020 And I was going to say that I've, because, you know, I've been gone for so long.

00:42:34.760 I haven't been cooking.

00:42:35.860 I'm back in the kitchen a bit.

00:42:37.460 And I have my breakfast that I've been loving.

00:42:40.300 So Young Cobras makes a, and again, I do not have a gluten intolerance, but they do an incredible gluten-free bread.

00:42:47.940 Keep it in the fridge.

00:42:48.800 It's pre-sliced, seedy.

00:42:51.020 It's nice.

00:42:52.200 I'm doing avocado.

00:42:54.260 This is so normal that there's no point.

00:42:56.180 I'm describing that. 1.00

00:42:57.880 Oh, look at me, a woman in California making avocado fucking toast. 1.00

00:43:02.340 But here's what I was going to say. 1.00

00:43:03.340 I'm so sorry.

00:43:05.400 I'm sorry.

00:43:06.600 I'm frying it.

00:43:07.760 I'm frying a pasteurized egg in avocado oil.

00:43:12.020 But then what I do is I drizzle on top of this.

00:43:14.780 I drizzle avocado.

00:43:15.800 a beautiful, extra virgin, organic

00:43:17.920 California olive oil. There's an olive oil

00:43:20.120 brand that I stand by and recommend

00:43:22.120 and would order online. But I want to shout out Frog Hollow

00:43:23.960 Farm. Frog Hollow Farm,

00:43:25.900 my cousin's farm. The most

00:43:27.840 unbelievable olive oil. Wait,

00:43:30.060 my call is in one minute.

00:43:31.900 We are going to have to get back on. Let's just do like another

00:43:33.900 15. That's fine. Okay. Okay. Have a great call.

00:43:35.880 Thank you.

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00:47:21.040 Okay, so we took a little break.

00:47:22.680 In the meantime, Jacqueline had a work call.

00:47:24.340 I ate some Japanese yams with Himalayan sea salt ghee.

00:47:28.280 And I had some, the brand Agri a long time ago sent us some stuff.

00:47:32.200 I just used some of their nori mix on top

00:47:35.420 Sesame seeds

00:47:36.180 Some turmeric

00:47:37.580 You got it

00:47:38.580 This was a long time ago

00:47:39.320 Yeah

00:47:39.560 Put that on top

00:47:40.700 What did you put on?

00:47:41.760 The sea salt from the brand?

00:47:42.640 A little more Himalayan sea salt

00:47:43.480 Because there was a gorgeous

00:47:44.380 The agri

00:47:45.020 It's like sesame seeds

00:47:46.340 Turmeric

00:47:46.900 Some nori in there I think

00:47:48.340 I do not own that and I never have 0.99

00:47:49.920 And I will get it

00:47:51.600 I think you have it somewhere in your files

00:47:54.460 But anyway

00:47:54.860 So Jacqueline we hang up

00:47:56.760 All of a sudden I get a call

00:47:58.720 Call comes in

00:48:00.180 It's from Jamaica

00:48:01.000 Wait did it say

00:48:02.080 the word Jamaica? Yep. Wow. Did any part of you go, I'll let them leave a message. I'm scared.

00:48:08.300 Yes. And then I went, just answer. You're an adult. You sent the email. The woman on the

00:48:14.080 phone was lovely. Extended her apologies. Said she's following up with her operations manager

00:48:20.600 and kind of gave it to me straight. I rehashed what happened and I have to say, I said to her,

00:48:26.600 I said, you know, if this had been a glitch and she would, yeah, it was a glitch. I went,

00:48:30.580 wasn't a glitch yeah it's not a fucking glitch 0.96

00:48:33.000 I talked to them and I was told 0.86

00:48:35.060 that their keys worked for our

00:48:36.920 which is like a fantasy

00:48:39.220 wasn't a glitch and again it wasn't a glitch

00:48:40.880 because I was told that their keys worked anyway

00:48:42.560 the point is and she

00:48:44.600 God bless her for this she kind of was like

00:48:46.660 shoot straight she was like what do you want 1.00

00:48:49.020 which by the way

00:48:52.500 I'll just say listen

00:48:54.700 and I appreciate Jacqueline 0.99

00:48:56.780 you're you fucking 1.00

00:48:58.960 asshole. You're already mad. I know. I am in literal shock. I was too scared to ask. So listen. 1.00

00:49:05.280 No. Oh my God. So I said the term rate reduction. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

00:49:14.320 no, no, no, no. This couldn't be worse. What was my email for about nonviolence? Okay.

00:49:21.040 Okay. Hold on. I know. Hold on. Listen, I was too. Okay. Rate reduction. Okay. Let's just,

00:49:28.040 I don't know everything in this world, okay?

00:49:30.540 But I've watched enough TV to understand

00:49:33.360 that when someone says, what do you want?

00:49:35.880 Like, what do you want?

00:49:36.720 You go up and then they bring you down.

00:49:38.840 Maybe they don't even bring you down.

00:49:40.160 They're basically... 1.00

00:49:41.080 Fuck. 1.00

00:49:41.840 They're basically saying we want this to end. 1.00

00:49:44.940 It's like...

00:49:47.060 I'm stunned, Kate.

00:49:49.480 I cannot...

00:49:51.040 I'm laughing at myself like...

00:49:53.040 I'm stunned, Kate.

00:49:55.160 I'm looking at the rain falling outside.

00:49:57.120 and I'm going, wow.

00:49:58.980 The fact that the words,

00:50:01.500 it's like either it's egregious

00:50:03.320 or it's not. 0.99

00:50:04.080 God damn it. 0.99

00:50:05.140 What do you want, Kate? 1.00

00:50:06.360 I wish I had the technology

00:50:07.840 to have made your voice

00:50:09.280 sound like my voice

00:50:10.080 as if it would have mattered.

00:50:11.180 I needed someone else to do it.

00:50:12.380 I needed a broker.

00:50:13.360 I needed a discount broker.

00:50:15.140 I needed someone to go in there

00:50:16.280 and go-

00:50:16.880 The word discount.

00:50:17.880 Well, this is the thing.

00:50:18.500 This is why-

00:50:19.200 I want someone to go in there

00:50:19.800 and go, I think the entire stay

00:50:21.820 should be calm.

00:50:22.900 Because it's hard on the phone. 0.99

00:50:24.320 Damn, it's hard. 0.99

00:50:25.100 Yeah, it's hard on the phone. 0.99

00:50:26.000 Text language is a place where it feels like that's where you can state what you believe

00:50:32.000 and not in desperation to establish rapport at all costs,

00:50:36.600 which happens during live conversation, start softening the desire.

00:50:39.960 That's why I value email.

00:50:42.080 And so I said, I want the last night for you.

00:50:45.940 No, no, no, no.

00:50:46.680 Wait, what happened to rate reduction?

00:50:48.120 No, I'm just, I'm just, you go rate reduction and then dot, dot, dot.

00:50:51.120 She said nothing.

00:50:51.960 Rate reduction.

00:50:52.820 She wasn't, yeah.

00:50:53.520 And then it was kind of like, okay, what?

00:50:55.360 But it was like, it was a blur, Jacqueline.

00:50:57.380 I was alone.

00:50:58.160 I was scared.

00:50:59.000 I don't know.

00:50:59.840 I'm literally considering.

00:51:02.140 By the way.

00:51:03.060 You give me the number and I call.

00:51:04.100 Sure.

00:51:05.120 Well, here's the thing, Jacqueline.

00:51:06.640 She didn't say, all right, the last night's free.

00:51:08.800 She went, I'm going to talk to her operations, talk about the refund.

00:51:12.340 I went, thank you.

00:51:13.800 You know, I'm concerned with being friendly, perceived as nice.

00:51:17.820 You know, I start cowering.

00:51:19.180 There she goes.

00:51:20.080 And she said, and this I thought was a little bold.

00:51:22.160 Wait, what was your cowering?

00:51:23.480 No, me not asking for the whole stay to be comped, which I do still think.

00:51:27.220 Oh, okay. I thought you said like, then you launched into a thing about how beautiful the resort is.

00:51:30.280 I did say how beautiful the resort was.

00:51:32.060 No, you worked that in.

00:51:33.460 I said everyone that was there was so wonderful. The hospitality was great.

00:51:37.860 This is after you've asked, now you're trying to like pad it, the landing.

00:51:41.080 Yeah, sweeten it. And then she said, she said, and this is my email for future stays or if your friends want to come.

00:51:47.880 I thought, that's interesting. So to her, it's everything is all in well.

00:51:52.780 I don't know.

00:51:53.320 I am considering just giving you the number.

00:51:56.120 All right.

00:51:56.360 Let's just play this through.

00:51:57.740 She goes, this is someone else.

00:52:00.800 Well, I wasn't even suggesting I pretend I'm you. 1.00

00:52:03.740 Oh, damn. 0.99

00:52:04.500 Who are you? 1.00

00:52:05.700 My associate?

00:52:06.280 My business associate?

00:52:06.980 Well, I consider that or wild transparency.

00:52:10.020 You say I'm her friend and podcast co-host.

00:52:13.200 I'm sorry.

00:52:14.060 I just overheard half of a conversation and I cannot allow this.

00:52:19.040 The request that my friend doesn't have the courage to ask for.

00:52:22.440 but is absolutely required, is a full refund.

00:52:26.100 This is outrageous.

00:52:28.060 Keep going.

00:52:28.560 I'm getting so turned on.

00:52:32.420 Like, I mean, I guess like it's as simple as like,

00:52:35.480 I'm going to continue to make this a problem until,

00:52:38.580 I don't know.

00:52:39.180 I don't know.

00:52:39.760 I don't know.

00:52:40.520 I just, I don't know.

00:52:42.520 Wow.

00:52:43.200 I don't know.

00:52:44.820 So much we don't know.

00:52:46.100 it's

00:52:49.460 no I'm really wrestling with

00:52:52.060 all the questions because I'm going

00:52:53.500 I'm wrestling too

00:52:54.440 the fact that after our hard work

00:52:56.860 you think I threw it all away

00:52:57.960 well of course you did

00:52:59.600 I mean after the drafting of the email

00:53:02.880 she said to me what do you want 0.99

00:53:04.040 she knows what she's got on her hands 1.00

00:53:06.720 she's got a little troublemaker 1.00

00:53:08.180 wants a free ride 1.00

00:53:10.560 were you

00:53:12.160 it's so interesting

00:53:14.820 did she say want

00:53:16.560 I think she said

00:53:17.400 what can I do for you

00:53:18.440 what can I do for you

00:53:19.280 I said that a couple times

00:53:20.060 I mean yeah

00:53:20.560 I forget in the email

00:53:21.680 did we

00:53:22.120 would we say

00:53:22.880 I think this

00:53:23.900 the whole stay should be refunded

00:53:25.620 or was it

00:53:26.000 I said I was shocked

00:53:26.860 to receive a full bill

00:53:28.200 a bill

00:53:28.900 full

00:53:29.640 full bill

00:53:30.480 did you 1.00

00:53:30.900 oh shit sorry 1.00

00:53:31.860 little slut 1.00

00:53:33.080 add in the word 1.00

00:53:33.820 no I didn't detail

00:53:35.120 if you made any

00:53:36.620 I didn't make any edits

00:53:37.920 I didn't make any edits

00:53:39.200 just looking to see

00:53:40.120 here it is

00:53:40.880 here it is

00:53:41.480 upon reflection

00:53:43.580 yeah you said full honey

00:53:45.640 upon reflection

00:53:46.980 I'm shocked to receive

00:53:47.900 a full bill for our stay

00:53:48.940 oh right

00:53:49.340 right

00:53:49.820 I see how it could be

00:53:50.720 interpreted both ways

00:53:51.580 okay

00:53:51.880 what I meant was

00:53:53.340 yeah full refund

00:53:54.840 and yeah

00:53:55.620 it's not clear

00:53:56.200 I guess

00:53:56.640 I guess

00:53:57.260 there's a few moves here

00:53:59.420 okay

00:53:59.900 did she give you her info

00:54:01.500 yeah I have her email

00:54:02.400 and I have her number

00:54:03.000 I have her name

00:54:03.620 I know her name 0.99

00:54:04.300 I booked through her 1.00

00:54:05.180 oh my god

00:54:06.420 I booked the stay

00:54:07.320 with her

00:54:08.360 exhaustive thread

00:54:09.620 because I was booking

00:54:10.540 like three days

00:54:11.420 before arrival

00:54:12.040 right

00:54:12.380 so it was really intense 0.99

00:54:13.480 I was trying to get the you know the least expensive thing and figuring it out she already

00:54:17.160 she already knows well here's what's not in my favor two things one I was really trying to go

00:54:22.400 okay well this one's the least expensive we'll split on this you know what I mean you were

00:54:25.300 haggling from the start I had to openly not haggling but I'm trying to get the best I'm

00:54:29.240 trying to stay there for the cheap in the cheapest way right and that's clear the whole time and then

00:54:32.720 this doesn't help this is not good this is not good what in a moment of mania I sent you sent

00:54:38.900 her your account balance I sent her the poog press kit and I said is there any kind of media

00:54:43.400 rate you know we talk about travel a lot on the podcast she said no never even acknowledged it 0.95

00:54:50.420 acknowledged it because celebs go there all the time they don't ask for free shit so they're like 0.72

00:54:55.580 i'm not going to give they're not going to give a free ride to right justin bieber they're not 0.97

00:55:00.700 going to give me a goddamn discount right although i feel like that that model doesn't totally hold

00:55:06.360 because the micro-influencer has value, you know, blah, blah, blah. 0.89

00:55:09.960 But, well, it's interesting that the podcast piece was mentioned

00:55:16.340 because then doesn't she know that—

00:55:19.960 I'm going crazy on the cast?

00:55:21.520 Yeah.

00:55:22.280 What does that do?

00:55:23.400 I don't know.

00:55:24.480 I just—

00:55:24.900 I know.

00:55:25.400 We need, like—

00:55:26.020 What happened?

00:55:26.680 So you didn't even get the confirmation?

00:55:28.320 It's this—I got to ask the manager thing?

00:55:29.860 She said she's going back to the operations director.

00:55:31.540 They're going to talk about it. 1.00

00:55:32.300 This is pathetic. 1.00

00:55:33.380 Oh, God. 1.00

00:55:34.540 No, I just mean that, like.

00:55:37.640 I mean.

00:55:39.080 I find it.

00:55:40.400 I don't know, Kate.

00:55:41.800 I know.

00:55:42.160 I'm really.

00:55:42.880 I mean, it's.

00:55:44.160 I keep wanting to go like, it's not about the money or something.

00:55:47.200 I don't even know what I'm trying to say.

00:55:49.540 I think it's just.

00:55:50.980 Maybe just shoot off an email.

00:55:52.440 You go.

00:55:52.920 Oh, yeah.

00:55:53.420 Look.

00:55:54.140 Yeah.

00:55:54.340 We just got on the phone and I got.

00:55:55.920 I got.

00:55:56.460 I got panicked on the phone.

00:55:58.360 I really think the stage should be comped entirely.

00:56:01.520 And I cannot recommend this report to anybody

00:56:04.760 if you don't take responsibility for- 0.99

00:56:08.220 Damn. 1.00

00:56:08.880 You know. 1.00

00:56:09.640 Okay, let's get you firing off another draft.

00:56:11.780 I don't know why I'm fighting this.

00:56:13.740 No, I want you to fight it

00:56:14.700 because by the way-

00:56:14.960 I don't know why I'm fighting this so hard.

00:56:16.520 I want a free stay.

00:56:17.180 Are you kidding? 0.99

00:56:18.200 Are you fucking kidding? 0.99

00:56:19.220 I'm just shocked 0.99

00:56:19.880 because here's the thing. 1.00

00:56:21.140 You're like the cold-hearted bitch. 1.00

00:56:23.220 I love when you call me that. 1.00

00:56:24.220 I know.

00:56:24.540 Truly. 0.97

00:56:25.260 Where is she now?

00:56:27.820 Okay, I don't know what the answer is here.

00:56:30.700 Yeah.

00:56:31.040 I don't know what principles apply.

00:56:34.540 I don't know who we want to be in this world, okay?

00:56:39.320 I am only devastated that you took a particular stance and then retracted.

00:56:45.700 Well, guess what?

00:56:46.380 Here's what's in our favor, sweetheart.

00:56:48.640 It was the phone.

00:56:49.900 Nothing's in writing. 0.70

00:56:54.540 There she is.

00:56:55.740 Okay, there she is.

00:56:57.280 I want you to know that I love you.

00:57:01.040 But if you draft up another Novak, if you draft up another sent from the law offices of Jacqueline Novak email, I will absolutely send that through.

00:57:16.100 The phone call was in the wind, right?

00:57:18.380 I was distracted.

00:57:18.940 It's not on paper.

00:57:20.200 Yeah.

00:57:20.420 So you don't even have to acknowledge what was or wasn't discussed on the phone call.

00:57:24.360 Don't create a paper trail there.

00:57:26.180 Genius, genius, genius.

00:57:27.300 Okay.

00:57:27.900 You just say, hey, you can acknowledge that a phone call occurred.

00:57:30.560 Appreciate you calling me.

00:57:31.240 Yeah, appreciate you calling me.

00:57:32.440 You asked me what you can do for me

00:57:33.940 given this situation.

00:57:35.720 There it is.

00:57:36.240 I think the stay should be comped.

00:57:37.960 Like, I think that's the right thing to do.

00:57:40.180 It will make it so that I want to come back

00:57:42.000 to your resort in the future

00:57:42.980 and recommend it to others.

00:57:45.080 That's what's necessary

00:57:46.060 to feel that you guys take this seriously

00:57:48.760 and then I can happily come back to this resort

00:57:51.620 and recommend it. 1.00

00:57:52.360 And then you draw the poog press kit again. 0.99

00:57:54.900 That's a joke. 1.00

00:57:55.440 That's really good.

00:57:56.040 And you know, you also say,

00:57:57.160 and I hope the issue will be remedied

00:57:59.220 so the keys only work for the person.

00:58:02.280 Okay, draw it up.

00:58:03.720 It's going out.

00:58:04.440 Draw it up.

00:58:04.960 It's going out.

00:58:08.340 Because here's the thing.

00:58:09.440 Listen, again,

00:58:10.360 violence did not transpire, right?

00:58:12.500 I did feel a genuine fear

00:58:15.280 and threat of violence.

00:58:17.060 But that's where I go,

00:58:18.200 is it about seeking damages emotionally?

00:58:20.580 Beside the point.

00:58:21.420 I almost go,

00:58:22.560 what if you're like that?

00:58:26.680 What if you're free solo?

00:58:28.020 Remember the guy Free Solo who has no fear?

00:58:30.560 I mean, remember. It's the film I carry with me every day.

00:58:33.400 Okay. Okay. Free Solo, no fear button inside of him,

00:58:38.120 whatever they checked his brain.

00:58:39.220 Yeah, in the brain.

00:58:40.080 And it's like, does he not deserve a refund in that situation?

00:58:45.320 Does he not deserve a refund because he felt no fear?

00:58:49.280 That's why I always think the emotional is almost,

00:58:52.260 unless you're doing a, I don't know,

00:58:53.960 Isn't that the difference between a civil case and a criminal one?

00:58:58.420 Oh, yeah.

00:58:59.500 I don't know.

00:59:00.060 I can't speak to that, but I think you're exactly right.

00:59:02.260 Because it starts to get into the realm of the...

00:59:04.240 Then I'm the hysterical woman.

00:59:05.660 Right.

00:59:06.080 Right. 1.00

00:59:06.600 With two hands across my tits going... 1.00

00:59:08.960 Two hands across your tits? 1.00

00:59:11.180 Oh, covering? 1.00

00:59:11.760 Like blocking my...

00:59:12.540 Yeah.

00:59:12.800 Nothing across the bottom?

00:59:15.880 Nothing. 1.00

00:59:16.700 Two hands covering the tits. 1.00

00:59:19.280 Naked from the tits down. 1.00

00:59:21.680 Yeah. 0.99

00:59:22.920 Yeah.

00:59:23.200 Isn't that interesting that there's

00:59:25.440 From the front

00:59:27.320 Can you cover

00:59:29.020 You know did God give us two arms

00:59:32.300 Okay

00:59:33.480 Forget the leaf right

00:59:34.840 You know

00:59:36.160 And then behind

00:59:39.760 If you were going to cover yourself from behind

00:59:41.920 I don't love 1.00

00:59:44.140 An ass in a movie 0.99

00:59:45.440 Absolutely not 1.00

00:59:46.480 By the way it should have been killed

00:59:48.060 That needed to never come back after the 90s 0.97

00:59:50.480 Even the 80s

00:59:51.780 Yeah. 1.00

00:59:52.060 The bare ass. 1.00

00:59:52.780 Do you remember Michael Douglas's butt? 1.00

00:59:55.040 Like, ew. 0.99

00:59:56.280 Okay.

00:59:56.660 I mean, no offense to Michael Douglas.

00:59:59.800 There's the episode title. 0.99

01:00:00.940 There was nothing wrong with his butt, okay? 0.99

01:00:04.400 Yeah. 1.00

01:00:04.700 It was the, I neither enjoy the sexual presentation of a butt in a dimly lit sex scene, okay? 0.99

01:00:11.400 And I don't appreciate the casual walking forward of Michael Douglas in Basic Instinct. 0.98

01:00:18.920 Is that the movie I mean?

01:00:19.800 Can you believe that?

01:00:21.260 You know what I'm realizing? 1.00

01:00:22.300 I don't find a man's ass sexual. 1.00

01:00:25.240 Well, there it is. 1.00

01:00:26.540 A woman's ass is sexual to me. 1.00

01:00:28.700 A man's ass? 1.00

01:00:30.040 Yeah. 1.00

01:00:30.280 I'm sorry, but I don't.

01:00:33.880 Is it wrong for you to have a sexual preference?

01:00:37.420 No, it's not.

01:00:38.240 Thank you.

01:00:39.020 Like, in particular, if you're talking aesthetics. 0.99

01:00:41.160 The man's ass bear as a comedic gesture. 0.99

01:00:45.500 Well, I've just seen it a lot. 0.99

01:00:47.140 I'm not turned on.

01:00:47.940 Okay, how do you feel about it as a comedic gesture?

01:00:49.880 Well, I'm not laughing.

01:00:51.160 Okay.

01:00:51.680 There it is.

01:00:52.480 There it is.

01:00:54.160 There it is.

01:00:54.820 Talk about not laughing.

01:00:55.520 Okay. 1.00

01:00:55.720 So I actually want to say that in this, I think he shows his ass. 0.99

01:00:59.300 I had never seen, and I have not finished it, but I watched almost all of it except 0.99

01:01:03.860 for the last 15 minutes on the plane ride to Jamaica and was laughing.

01:01:09.620 A single tear rolled down my face.

01:01:12.020 Oh my God.

01:01:12.500 Oh my God.

01:01:12.920 Shaking shoulders.

01:01:15.380 Forgetting Sarah Marshall.

01:01:16.660 Okay.

01:01:17.520 Wait, is that the one at the resort?

01:01:19.060 Yeah.

01:01:19.760 The star power.

01:01:21.320 And I'm going to slow this down.

01:01:23.080 I'm going to really slow this down.

01:01:24.700 Okay.

01:01:25.340 The star power of Jason Segel,

01:01:29.240 which I, of course, Freaks and Geeks,

01:01:30.940 is of deep importance to me.

01:01:33.040 The star power.

01:01:34.440 The star.

01:01:35.060 Forgetting Sarah Marshall.

01:01:36.540 Yes.

01:01:37.060 I kept wanting to sing Sarah Jessica Marshall.

01:01:38.800 I'm watching that.

01:01:39.940 I am, with that movie,

01:01:41.220 I am laughing out loud on a plane.

01:01:45.380 I'm not talking about one outburst.

01:01:46.860 I'm talking about a couple.

01:01:48.000 I'm talking about multiple outbursts of laughter.

01:01:51.380 And were you flying with John?

01:01:52.880 Yes, but he wasn't watching it.

01:01:54.700 Was he watching anything?

01:01:55.780 That's a good point.

01:01:56.760 He was reading.

01:01:57.720 Oh, John.

01:02:00.280 But you could, I understand someone could argue.

01:02:02.160 He made everybody see, make sure they noticed.

01:02:05.420 He was like, I'm going to read.

01:02:06.500 He held a book up three feet in the air.

01:02:08.220 All right.

01:02:08.760 Someone might argue, oh, maybe you're more likely to have that.

01:02:11.340 Because you're safe next to someone?

01:02:12.680 I disagree.

01:02:13.300 Because you're an extra friend, you felt safe.

01:02:14.000 I disagree.

01:02:14.600 I don't think that's it.

01:02:15.480 I disagree.

01:02:16.380 I agree. And in fact, there were a couple of times I took off my earphones, put them on John.

01:02:19.520 I said, watch this. These little moments. Are you hearing this?

01:02:23.120 Jason, are you hearing this?

01:02:24.240 And we say it on the pod, but they don't make them like that anymore.

01:02:27.520 I know. Have you seen that movie?

01:02:30.080 Yes. Years and years and years ago.

01:02:32.340 It's been recommended to me. I always kind of went, oh, I'm laughing out loud.

01:02:37.440 It's sometimes hard to get into a movie with a name. It's sometimes hard to bridge the gap.

01:02:43.160 Michael Clayton, I've never watched and I know it's great.

01:02:45.880 Michael Clayton.

01:02:46.840 I can't do it.

01:02:47.460 I can't turn it on.

01:02:48.420 Maybe that's why.

01:02:49.360 It's the name getting away sometimes.

01:02:51.080 And I know it's fabulous.

01:02:53.820 Lizzie McGuire.

01:02:55.440 What even is that?

01:02:57.660 Well, let's not go there.

01:02:58.860 You know that I'm in it.

01:03:01.940 You forgot.

01:03:03.140 I forgot.

01:03:03.980 Jacqueline temporarily forgot that my debut, my screen debut was having one line on Lizzie

01:03:09.440 McGuire when I was 14.

01:03:11.600 Incredible.

01:03:12.680 Anyway.

01:03:13.180 Anyway, what are the other big ones?

01:03:15.020 I mean, thank God it didn't stop me from seeing Jerry Maguire, you know.

01:03:19.920 Jerry Maguire, I don't think I've ever seen.

01:03:22.800 Kate.

01:03:23.840 Oh, my God.

01:03:25.860 When are we going to do Nacho Night?

01:03:28.940 You know, I've been obsessed with doing...

01:03:30.340 Sugar-free piñas?

01:03:31.040 I've been doing a lot keto piñas nacho night with you.

01:03:34.140 Oh, Jacqueline, something so funny happened.

01:03:36.580 And the community will enjoy this, I think.

01:03:38.380 I was doing Office Hours, Tim Heidecker's podcast, which you've done, which is, and I was sitting

01:03:44.420 there and I look over and I see there's a mug. I'm waiting for your face to see if anything

01:03:51.540 starts to register. I look over, I see this mug and I go, and I knew, I knew that you'd done the

01:03:57.520 podcast. And I went, that's Jacqueline's mug. She brought a coffee or something with her to this

01:04:01.960 show and she left her mug here because it was a say yet day it was a mug it was a christmas

01:04:08.960 themed mug that siete foods god bless them sent us is it coming back wait wait was it confirmed

01:04:16.800 yes no no no he goes yes she did i went because who comes up and i go in fact i have reason to

01:04:24.400 believe that's jacqueline novak's mug and he said yes it is do you remember it it's aluminum it's

01:04:29.100 like a camping mug i remember it oh my god siete has been very generous trust in fact i would say

01:04:34.720 siete i would i would take some tortillas it's been a while i would take a little re-up devastatingly

01:04:38.960 there was they're not keto in siete no no there was something that was but it had chia in it which

01:04:44.520 i seem to have a allergic allergic to allergy too and it's i mean how do you even move forward in 0.86

01:04:50.100 this world when you can't have chia when every fucking recipe is about overnight chia based 0.96

01:04:55.460 oats. You know what I'm talking about? 0.99

01:04:57.840 I was actually going to brew. I love

01:04:59.440 making chia pudding and I was going to brew up some

01:05:01.380 with some Arroyo D Elmhurst.

01:05:03.600 You know, it's interesting. You sent

01:05:05.460 me that thing about erythritol, you

01:05:07.460 know, the sugar alcohol sweetener.

01:05:09.440 Oh yeah, they say it might be tied to

01:05:11.400 stroke and heart attack. Yeah, and you know,

01:05:13.300 that's flying around. And I go, let me

01:05:15.440 guess, funded by Bidcorn?

01:05:17.700 Okay? Because I

01:05:19.020 have no faith.

01:05:21.820 I love to say things are funded by

01:05:23.420 Bidcorn, but it happens to be real, okay?

01:05:25.460 Anyway, I'm not convinced.

01:05:28.220 We're not throwing out our quest bars yet.

01:05:30.300 Okay.

01:05:30.740 Over here.

01:05:31.680 And I don't love erythritol.

01:05:33.500 It has a cooling effect, which is not what I want in my chocolate unless it's actively mint chocolate.

01:05:38.040 And even then, erythritol, the study, these other people broke it down.

01:05:43.960 The study is that these people that had these heart attacks and whatever, they had elevated erythritol amounts in their bloodstream or something.

01:05:53.360 and it said like but erythritol is something i say erythritol it's easier to get out but

01:05:58.540 erythritol is made by the money yeah what it's made by

01:06:23.360 what happened

01:06:28.140 what

01:06:29.500 what

01:06:32.340 what

01:06:32.900 that felt so good 0.97

01:06:36.140 I just disgusted you

01:06:38.140 what

01:06:39.020 was it the combination of a voice

01:06:43.020 and the content

01:06:44.300 it was the combination of that

01:06:52.160 I was trying to drop it

01:06:54.700 it was you dropping it

01:06:55.940 and then me

01:06:56.420 it was

01:06:58.020 yeah

01:06:58.660 it was a couple things

01:06:59.640 going on

01:07:00.360 really hit hard

01:07:01.460 and then hearing

01:07:02.840 your laughter

01:07:03.520 built

01:07:04.040 oh

01:07:05.160 just really

01:07:06.220 when it escalates

01:07:07.120 like that

01:07:08.120 that's really good

01:07:09.240 that's why we're here

01:07:10.240 on earth

01:07:10.700 we're here on earth

01:07:11.320 to do that

01:07:11.960 and swim in the ocean

01:07:12.740 that's about it

01:07:13.560 Jesus

01:07:14.580 I want to get back

01:07:15.260 in a sea bob

01:07:15.920 listen to me right 0.99

01:07:16.600 fucking now 1.00

01:07:17.140 I'll go with you 1.00

01:07:17.500 anytime

01:07:17.940 working vacay

01:07:20.160 I have to say

01:07:20.720 something right now

01:07:21.440 I miss that Turks and Caicos water bathtub.

01:07:25.140 Yeah, bathtub warmth.

01:07:26.520 Okay, anyway.

01:07:27.140 So all I'm saying is erythritol.

01:07:29.020 They didn't actually study the people's dietary intake of erythritol.

01:07:33.560 Those people might not have even eaten erythritol.

01:07:35.960 Oh, you're kidding.

01:07:36.800 It's a natural.

01:07:37.360 Yeah, it's really.

01:07:38.580 Let's settle before taking down.

01:07:40.180 That's a real hit piece.

01:07:42.980 Now, sugar alcohols, you might be not for them for a thousand reasons.

01:07:47.140 Yeah, sure.

01:07:48.020 But, you know.

01:07:48.680 Yeah, let's be careful.

01:07:49.420 Quest is a huge part of my life.

01:07:51.120 Okay, it just is.

01:07:52.260 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:07:53.320 On the road.

01:07:54.520 The new crispy ones are absolute revelations.

01:07:56.780 Crispy what?

01:07:57.460 Crispy Quest bars.

01:07:58.440 You're not going to be into it.

01:07:59.780 Interesting, she says.

01:08:00.380 Maybe you would.

01:08:01.560 In a pinch.

01:08:02.880 When you don't have a yam in your back pocket.

01:08:04.440 I love a bar.

01:08:05.160 I love a bar in the purse.

01:08:06.300 I shouldn't leave the house without a bar in the purse.

01:08:07.700 Yeah, but you probably like one that's like nothing but a fruit and a nut.

01:08:10.680 One of those. 1.00

01:08:11.780 Listen, bitch. 1.00

01:08:14.200 It's true. 1.00

01:08:14.800 I am concerned with ingredients.

01:08:16.160 But hey, this is tough to say.

01:08:18.540 I do have to leave.

01:08:19.680 Who doesn't?

01:08:20.280 I know.

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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - March 14, 2023

You Threw It All Away

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