Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - Company

00:00:00.000 Hello, hello.

00:00:01.500 Hello.

00:00:03.080 Happy New Year.

00:00:04.940 Both sick.

00:00:05.880 You with a proper flu, me with unknown.

00:00:09.680 Could it be the dryness of the tri-state area, the heaters?

00:00:13.980 It always could be.

00:00:15.600 This was unbelievable to me, listeners, you may recall in the last episode.

00:00:19.040 Oh, yeah.

00:00:19.580 The flu came on during the recording of the show.

00:00:23.680 I started coughing.

00:00:26.140 And I remember going, uh-oh, I'm scared.

00:00:28.420 like out of nowhere

00:00:29.260 which is a classic flu onset

00:00:30.820 it is

00:00:32.200 it happens out of nowhere

00:00:32.920 really

00:00:33.400 and yeah

00:00:34.320 classic thing suddenly

00:00:35.640 people

00:00:36.080 like my friend just had it

00:00:37.240 she was on a flight

00:00:38.220 and like in the middle of the flight

00:00:39.460 all of a sudden was like

00:00:40.400 I'm sick

00:00:41.040 like it just hit

00:00:42.100 wow

00:00:42.880 and

00:00:43.940 I was coughing

00:00:45.940 next day

00:00:47.180 chest pains

00:00:48.060 I go

00:00:48.840 hello

00:00:49.700 and of course I thought

00:00:50.720 oh it's COVID

00:00:51.580 I was like I'm having chest pains

00:00:52.760 I of course took myself to urgent care

00:00:54.800 and my new Uggs

00:00:55.700 really cozy

00:00:57.100 so you got them

00:00:58.420 oh yeah oh i heard something from my niece about the uggs really she heard the app yeah she was

00:01:03.440 like there was a term we were missing she had she had insights anyway she probably wants the

00:01:09.620 ultra minis she probably is into the ultra minis i don't know no it was more like i think she had

00:01:14.300 a term my age shouldn't wear an ultra mini right i don't know um but go on i took myself to urgent

00:01:21.220 care and it just the way that i relax when a doctor is near like and again i wasn't suffering

00:01:26.840 in some terrifying way it was that level and i think of you talking about this often that level

00:01:31.080 of sickness where there's almost the delight and i can't take part in the everyday i have to cancel

00:01:36.140 everything but i'm not in agony i'm not in extreme pain but urgent care fascinating being there alone

00:01:44.300 it's the true um you know it's it's true health okay so it's gratitude so this is my my framing

00:01:54.500 of this okay it's like your true health means that you can have the flu and not be afraid

00:02:00.680 right yeah totally it's like it's yeah it's 1996 and you're yeah it's it's yeah it's having the

00:02:09.640 faith that influenza is not taking you out it's like oh completely i mean an ailment i mean i love

00:02:15.640 an ailment with a it's in a mild with a treatment and a solution i was at urgent care a beautiful

00:02:22.280 urgent care near me and um everyone in there was fine he was suffering in a horrible way

00:02:26.580 gleaming empty no cedars-sinai urgent care not at the hospital a different location okay

00:02:35.240 interesting but you know my with my insurance so lucky 25 to go 25 yeah the nurse i really

00:02:43.820 connected with her i was into her she was young and she made me feel and i and i just like just

00:02:48.580 being just a nurse someone in scrubs looking at me i feel held we go through it she goes ekg this

00:02:55.240 other nurse goes ekg i start getting nervous texting my mother they want to give me an ekg

00:02:59.220 you know but i guess that's normal when you're having chest pain the point is i'll just cut to

00:03:02.620 it i got the deep internal nasal swab i got the deep one this is you know the back oh yeah straight

00:03:09.900 the occipital or occipital exactly i just think it's off but it's not like occidental but the

00:03:16.240 point is i couldn't believe it she calls me she calls me on the phone what 20 minutes later

00:03:20.880 you have influenza did she say influenza okay

00:03:25.400 if she did i think she's ready to be the third member of the podcast

00:03:32.400 and then i'm also met with of course the mat like of course i was wearing a mask the whole time but

00:03:38.500 people not wearing a mask i go wear a mask are you crazy you're in urgent care if not here where

00:03:44.000 if not you're aware yeah and there was a child coughing into the abyss mask always yeah i was 0.98

00:03:49.100 just like all right put a freaking muzzle coughing generously yeah coughing coughing a goose for every

00:03:55.400 home a goose in every pot spirit with their own germs watched a christmas carol last night okay 0.91

00:04:02.940 no a goose in every pot i was like henry the something i i don't know get confused you know

00:04:09.080 like something for all generosity saying the child is coughing like a king well wanting its

00:04:16.460 own germs in every home i was confronted so i got the diagnosis right and then it said sin it's sad

00:04:23.840 i can't see my parents for christmas right it's like okay christmas you know yeah i believe i

00:04:28.460 recall christmas ruined yeah interesting ruined or ruined different ruined yeah ruined totally

00:04:34.880 different approaches and shout out to all-time restaurant which i treated myself i go i'm picking

00:04:42.240 up a grain bowl from all time i was moaning in ecstasy eating in the car i don't know how they 0.96

00:04:47.860 make it up so goddamn good but they really fucking do tamari fried rice with veggies 0.98

00:04:55.080 a couple fried eggs on top yeah i added bacon i almost didn't i go don't you know 0.99

00:05:01.720 thinking a lot about pigs i go you're sick it's christmas get the bacon moaning ate it in the car

00:05:08.560 couldn't wait a 15 minute drive home was too long moaning in the car they happened this is huge again

00:05:15.280 i do want to shout what is this place called all time it's in los felis los felis um i was eyeing

00:05:23.340 the donuts on the counter and then i left i go i shouldn't you know sugar when you're sick whatever

00:05:28.400 inflammation they threw one in there they threw in a comped beautiful glazed donut so i went home

00:05:35.660 moaning in ecstasy sad from the sickness but the flavors elevated me beyond the pain and that really

00:05:42.760 is the story and i'm incredibly grateful knocking on the wood right here i never got a fever i'm not

00:05:49.280 out of the woods yet as you can hear and here's what's interesting different school different

00:05:54.560 theories around

00:05:55.660 contagion. Starve a fever or whatever.

00:05:58.080 Or feed a fever, starve a cold.

00:06:00.400 Right, right, right. Of course.

00:06:01.740 Wait, you have a little bit of the, which I love,

00:06:03.420 the like... The sexy rasp?

00:06:05.880 No, different. It's like

00:06:07.260 when the nasal just kind of brings you into

00:06:09.340 the hair a little bit. The nasal.

00:06:11.040 I'm over-exaggerating it, but it's like

00:06:12.580 hi. It's like

00:06:14.800 when I have it, I feel

00:06:16.600 like sweet.

00:06:18.940 Yeah, it makes you feel like a child.

00:06:20.100 Yeah.

00:06:22.080 But I'll say it because the nurse's whole thing 1.00

00:06:24.100 of all my parents she's like you know after five days you're probably not contagious also because

00:06:28.540 you're you know and but then my mom i heard that you know if any symptoms you could be contagious

00:06:34.360 so i'm staying the hell away from my parents yeah until i'm feel completely normal but

00:06:38.880 i said get in front of your red light get on your p mf mat i said get soups i said get shower 0.51

00:06:45.120 steamers which i always go spewing aerosolizing influenza across that microphone

00:06:53.120 all across the microphone 0.95

00:06:55.060 might want to throw that windscreen 0.93

00:06:56.940 into the old

00:06:57.740 detergent laundry

00:07:00.160 like you're drinking out of the air one jar

00:07:02.660 get me back to LA that's all I'm saying

00:07:04.160 well I made I want to say I made two

00:07:06.740 Christmas again wasn't suffering thank God

00:07:09.000 no fever so I was able to cook

00:07:10.700 made some gorgeous stews

00:07:13.020 and this is what you'll understand

00:07:14.260 it was also ecstasy my partner and I

00:07:16.720 they also had it but even more

00:07:18.880 mild than I had it we can only assume they had it

00:07:21.000 they didn't test but

00:07:23.120 not being able to see anyone guess we have to just stay in the home incredibly cozy lighting

00:07:28.400 a fire making stews i made a classic allison roman stew i made an andy baragani stew i'd

00:07:34.860 never made that was fabulous potato leek smashed potato turmeric leek soup you're still on turmeric

00:07:41.600 instead of turmeric no isn't it turmeric didn't we discuss this you're right i say turmeric 0.98

00:07:47.680 yeah a lot of people do fuck what an embarrassment no i'm diminished without without diagnosis which 0.98

00:07:58.120 is yeah what do you feel devastating you know can't be a card carrying influenza carrier exactly 0.99

00:08:04.100 i feel many things i mean well you were traveling international or not international

00:08:11.180 cross cross continental travel were you on a plane the day before christmas day before christmas 0.99

00:08:16.120 coughs a million um two days before actually okay okay i wanted to i managed to get my ass

00:08:23.220 to new york when did i go saturday night sunday sunday night monday night yeah i got there on 0.89

00:08:28.560 sunday late and hotel then made it out to the family i mean to recount christmas feels overwhelming

00:08:38.820 at this moment but yeah flying into the new year here we go because let's just say tonight

00:08:46.120 Oh, folks.

00:08:47.060 And I have the 31st. 0.99

00:08:48.700 I have Reza fucking Lucians. 0.99

00:08:51.220 I want to talk. 0.99

00:08:51.920 I want to go deep.

00:08:53.820 No, I get serious.

00:08:54.860 My life has to change.

00:08:56.200 It's chaos internally about all that needs to be achieved in the new year.

00:09:00.500 I was looking at an ADD regulation guide this morning.

00:09:02.980 Really?

00:09:04.040 Yeah.

00:09:04.600 Explain.

00:09:05.260 Regulate.

00:09:05.700 That sounds like regulation guide, like the national, the government.

00:09:11.160 Having to, like, you know, all about dysregulation.

00:09:14.980 regulation oh that's the main add thing you know and i go i need pharma now yeah doctor doctor

00:09:23.280 knock knock knock well you know what i did did he tell you about downloading this this clone this

00:09:28.520 like light egg ai clone based on this adhd coach no and i was trying to clone or whatever that's

00:09:38.500 jenny kane i'm getting confused there's some add coach but i feel like no i don't like download

00:09:43.840 my free thing and then it's like oh wait

00:09:45.820 this is basically an ad for me to pay for the thing

00:09:47.980 right

00:09:48.760 which I guess respect she needs to 1.00

00:09:51.400 try to make a living

00:09:53.140 I downloaded it

00:09:55.780 brought to tears within minutes 0.62

00:09:57.260 talking to this AI 1.00

00:09:58.680 and dredged shit up 0.98

00:10:01.380 but I was also saying like I'm disappointed 0.97

00:10:04.000 right now because I thought you were going to be

00:10:05.780 the answer to everything and you're not

00:10:07.100 I was crying in a restaurant writing it

00:10:08.600 it did bring a lot of things to the surface

00:10:11.420 because I was like

00:10:13.140 i just over i overestimated how advanced this one thing was going to be but

00:10:18.640 um rushing the rushing thing slow down this is the 80 thing which we talked about more likely

00:10:26.140 to die in accidents or like get your head hit oh yeah whatever the other day i was rushing so hard 0.99

00:10:30.720 bent over in this really kind of demonstrative like fuck like like a big like my my prescription 0.99

00:10:37.960 and sunglasses fell out of my thing I stepped on them and broke them just like actually it's 0.98

00:10:43.920 interesting you say that on the 31st when the Twilight Zone marathon historically plays and

00:10:49.020 Burgess Meredith is in the episode where he steps on his glasses we should step on our glasses more

00:10:57.400 some might say um but but relatedly you know what I'm thinking of um punishing me and Chris

00:11:05.840 for not being consistent

00:11:07.860 with our Hobonichi Techo

00:11:09.960 or Techo, I forget,

00:11:12.100 our daily planners.

00:11:14.320 Oh, my partner got me the Hobonichi

00:11:15.700 last year.

00:11:17.360 Well, here we go.

00:11:18.260 And I wrote it maybe three times.

00:11:19.960 So I'm going,

00:11:20.740 so I have a few ideas for this.

00:11:22.040 And some of our...

00:11:22.880 For punishment?

00:11:23.640 Yeah, so I'm going,

00:11:24.900 guess what I'm buying us again.

00:11:26.680 Yeah.

00:11:27.300 For $80 or whatever.

00:11:29.700 And yeah, we're getting the dated one.

00:11:31.460 It's really expensive like that.

00:11:32.540 I mean, you get Japanese Tomo River paper.

00:11:34.640 you got you know there's a lot there's a lot to it so so I go no we're getting it again and I'm 0.53

00:11:41.300 gonna buy it every goddamn year until until we get you know what I mean like no no one's off the 0.56

00:11:46.020 hook and then second I'm going an interesting idea and I'm scared I go all right I flip back 0.91

00:11:52.240 through it I see I go okay there's a lot of blank here would it be interesting to do a debrief of

00:11:59.260 the year and go in poke around look at the calendar look at my calendar my digital calendar

00:12:05.140 look at look at the past year and fill in things that happened and make a few notes of it now

00:12:10.580 at the end of the year go back in and go oh what was july about can't remember

00:12:15.540 like almost treat it a little bit more like a scrapbook because totally because the gcal

00:12:21.740 i'm forgetting because i write everything in my gcal yeah so yeah talk about sexless i know well

00:12:28.240 that's what sometimes i take this is my life paper yeah so i filled it in but but i have a

00:12:34.200 new notebook my old notebook same i'm forgetting forgetting the brand it's not expensive it's

00:12:38.300 some american brand and uh for years i would write it was very diligent everyday writing what

00:12:45.900 happened for years yeah it's interesting do you do you write with um and i've the sensuous spirit

00:12:53.600 or do you

00:12:54.720 because

00:12:55.420 with a what spirit

00:12:56.680 I said sensuous

00:12:58.080 but I mean

00:12:58.720 you know

00:13:00.160 for the Smithsonian

00:13:03.140 yeah

00:13:03.960 or are you like

00:13:05.720 because like

00:13:06.240 sometimes I'm like

00:13:07.060 okay let me just

00:13:08.380 really process right

00:13:09.420 and I was writing down

00:13:10.260 and using fountain pen

00:13:11.680 and like

00:13:12.680 a new fountain pen

00:13:13.960 by the way

00:13:14.420 from my lover

00:13:16.000 pretty excited about

00:13:17.880 I'll show you

00:13:18.780 I'll show you

00:13:19.260 and the listeners

00:13:19.740 when we're live together

00:13:20.760 but

00:13:21.620 um

00:13:23.600 it's like I'm like so-and-so said this and I felt irritated okay and then I'm like I had beans

00:13:31.040 like I'm like like this is the most where the language is just flowing just no you know this

00:13:38.920 is where I go what are we doing do we need nine journals does it all mix into one who am I which

00:13:47.480 place of which thread of consciousness to which notebook i know well i of course have i have like

00:13:54.980 four notebooks yeah and they are organized within my chaos if i know which ones for what yeah

00:14:00.480 sometimes just cross over and no i mean what i really felt and this is again sometimes god gives

00:14:05.280 you what you need not what you want right so i go well i needed the flu i needed the flu to slow me

00:14:09.860 down to keep me on the couch because like i haven't had at all for feels like for so long just 0.96

00:14:16.640 true days of also took instagram off my phone i haven't looked in days i never want to fucking go 0.88

00:14:23.180 back well i'm lord knows i will finally and you know the passwords and everything everything 0.82

00:14:27.900 hasn't made the full transfer and so i haven't been able to get into that account or a few others

00:14:31.540 and i'm like let's stay here well i have to find my second phone because my bad phone

00:14:38.800 my social media phone missing yeah don't know where it is because i went full back instagram 0.63

00:14:44.420 on the main phone fucked my life of course what about huge question can you post to instagram 0.59

00:14:53.620 from your computer okay i know there are like no services for that sort of thing load up your posts 0.95

00:15:01.420 whatever right what i'm saying is imagine if instagram was only on a on a designated desktop

00:15:10.500 of course or an old laptop sitting in a corner and you had to go sit at your secretary's desk

00:15:16.560 that's what my bad phone was same psychology and it really was working for a while but you could

00:15:22.260 still lay on your couch with it i'm wondering if there's something to so so here's what this

00:15:26.360 is all coming from you mentioned to me that in the new year you want to have and i found this

00:15:31.840 exciting have your phone use right cut by 50 yeah now it would still be my mind started soaring

00:15:39.900 about how right

00:15:41.340 and I had a few ideas one because I was getting

00:15:44.320 so frustrated with my phone

00:15:46.040 I was like

00:15:48.380 would a picture

00:15:49.780 like a literal

00:15:51.740 printed out cardboard picture of

00:15:54.180 Zuckerberg sticking out

00:15:56.480 okay like pasted to the

00:15:58.400 back of my phone sticking out his face

00:15:59.960 so every time I go to use my phone

00:16:02.320 there's a cardboard

00:16:03.820 Zuckerberg

00:16:04.460 because I was scrolling on Instagram my last day of scrolling

00:16:08.360 one of the last few days

00:16:09.380 and someone had made like a reel of mark zuckerberg like an a i think of mark zuckerberg peering

00:16:15.140 behind really walls and it was like oh intentionally to interrupt the scroll with 0.98

00:16:21.020 like don't forget you're being surveilled you're working for fucking meta whatever the hell it's 0.96

00:16:24.860 called now these losers keep changing another idea what about a brace okay on the thumb this 0.99

00:16:30.420 is going to be in our store i'm going to build all this locks where your thumb can't it's a splint 0.95

00:16:36.200 the thumb cannot scroll

00:16:38.840 so you have to tap or type

00:16:41.640 there can be no rotational

00:16:45.880 it's interesting right

00:16:48.180 unfortunately the mind is going to have to be

00:16:50.420 conquered I think for it

00:16:52.240 really?

00:16:54.080 well I think also just spending

00:16:56.320 like two days

00:16:57.660 building Zuckerberg

00:17:00.720 oh

00:17:01.740 and

00:17:03.100 watching the fire

00:17:05.160 by the way the fire i've been having my dad make the fire and make it late because i'm up late

00:17:14.500 laying by the fire it's it's like it's so beautiful

00:17:18.580 really quickly want to say that my feel my flu today somehow i woke up feeling worse than

00:17:25.800 yesterday wondering why um hydration really poor hydration i was of course the amazon strike which

00:17:34.180 i guess is allegedly over now but how i don't know so i you know i haven't purchased anything

00:17:38.680 from amazon for a week or whatever and because i refused to cross the line and as a result my

00:17:45.560 health has suffered because element i bought i purchased element through the official website 0.82

00:17:50.360 and i go this is why amazon they have fucked it's like if i order amazon the next morning 0.99

00:17:56.900 i know with element with through the official website five days later i'm gonna get it fucking 0.99

00:18:02.360 five days after i ordered it did you watch conclave sure did in theaters oh my god really 0.85

00:18:08.420 yeah it's fun it's so funny it's like did you notice the poster for conclave because it looks

00:18:14.920 like a like a bad soap opera no guys went to the trouble to make we actually avoided the poster

00:18:20.840 right it looks like the traders like it looks like a reality show it's really funny when the

00:18:27.120 marketing just fails yeah much left to peacock but i was like just pull a still from the film

00:18:34.020 it's beautiful stills yeah anyway i have a couple like i've actually been pleased by the idea of you

00:18:42.220 um phantom thread like pleased by you being kept by your illness where i was thinking like i could

00:18:47.440 get you to read or watch certain things because you're you're lying there bound like i was like

00:18:52.120 send something over to you to read i was listening to the phantom thread score the other day while 0.97

00:18:57.400 making soup one of my favorite films it's unbelievable when i saw it i've never fucking 0.72

00:19:04.900 seen this never saw three saw three times in theaters didn't we both see it in whatever 0.78

00:19:09.780 millimeter i saw in 35 yeah yeah i was like i saw it i saw it in two right you saw it in four four 0.96

00:19:18.480 yeah i um also want to say something um this is interesting to me so i i think i fuck i think i

00:19:26.060 said this the last episode my new york times cooking app they already bring this up to you 0.57

00:19:29.420 yeah how it's not working yeah i tried to chat with a bot about it yeah and they go do i have

00:19:34.940 to call new york times and go what's going on because they're gonna blame it on me well discount

00:19:41.380 i mean i'll just keep paying but it's it's greatly diminished my ability to use the app

00:19:47.420 If you can't save the recipe, what are we doing?

00:19:51.560 Yeah.

00:19:52.720 I mean, I guess, is that the idea?

00:19:55.600 I don't know.

00:19:56.200 I just, your commitment to the New York Times recipes,

00:20:01.540 don't you just feel a little like, I don't know,

00:20:05.020 me and every other one?

00:20:07.160 I've got my, no, but some of them just hit so hard.

00:20:10.420 Today I took out some cookbooks

00:20:11.820 because I know I'm feeling I have been gripped

00:20:15.080 the last few days by cooking desire to cook which actually signals joy in the home and making I made

00:20:24.600 brownies I made stews I'm gonna make um you know I made pasta I'm about to make a I have a banana

00:20:31.440 bread recipe that I'm obsessed with that actually just from the internet like you know from like

00:20:34.600 myrecipe.com so I'm like absolutely but it's it's a it's of course a grain-free refined sugar-free

00:20:41.580 banana bread

00:20:43.940 with lilies chocolate chips

00:20:46.000 I got some lilies right here

00:20:48.340 almond flour

00:20:49.080 I've been just eating chocolate in bed

00:20:51.040 why is that one green

00:20:52.960 because this is the extremely dark 1.00

00:20:56.360 85% 0.68

00:20:57.520 85%

00:21:00.140 yeah

00:21:00.440 wow

00:21:02.060 what's dark typically 70%

00:21:04.440 you know it varies

00:21:05.220 what else did I enjoy

00:21:07.620 what's the whole foods doing

00:21:09.360 where's the bread

00:21:10.180 have you noticed this

00:21:11.360 there's the bakery section with whatever bread and then there's the frozen bread there's and

00:21:18.000 then there's white bread on a no just like a collection of breads and bags it's like nowhere

00:21:23.700 and I heard someone else complaining about it and then I too was another what else was I struggling

00:21:28.240 with I was going I don't know it took a long trip through there it took a long trip through

00:21:36.500 target oh you know what i'm going down a path with huge now so shopping for christmas manically

00:21:42.860 shopping for christmas going into all these stores it gets me it kicks me off for shopping

00:21:48.900 like i get more into stuff in the first two months of the new year because i'm not really

00:21:54.440 thinking about shopping during rest of the year in a broad sense across categories yeah suddenly

00:22:00.900 now i'm going okay you know i read all these lists or whatever so right now huge question

00:22:05.920 multi-cooker okay i'm doing i'm doing grain bowls i'm doing dr gregor's uh brawl right

00:22:11.640 whatever the hell bulgur rye oats and okay lentils right or his gluten-free one i think is groll

00:22:19.620 which is like something with a g what could it be i don't know i forget but anyway i'm like

00:22:25.920 reading and then i'm like which multi-cooker right and then i read it read it it's like

00:22:32.600 there's so much information there it's like

00:22:34.440 the people there

00:22:36.420 they got so much you know to say

00:22:38.300 anyway so I'm like I'm going there and then

00:22:40.480 there's this one guy his entire torso

00:22:42.700 is burnt

00:22:44.280 you know because

00:22:46.160 it exploded you know what I mean

00:22:48.340 no stop not the

00:22:49.680 and then he had to clarify he's like

00:22:51.900 I didn't it didn't it didn't explode

00:22:54.520 the multi cooker didn't explode but here's

00:22:56.620 what did happen okay

00:22:57.720 so the issue is this

00:23:00.100 okay there's two things

00:23:02.600 So this also happens with heating water in a microwave sometimes, okay?

00:23:05.640 This is like this, I forget what the word is, it superheats or something, where if you're

00:23:10.360 in very, very smooth glass, okay, then it's like when you take it out of the microwave,

00:23:14.940 you know, it shatters or it, you know, whatever.

00:23:17.220 It's like, so with the multi-cooker thing, they're like, if, you know, you do the release,

00:23:26.920 right?

00:23:27.080 You have to do the release.

00:23:27.880 Do you cook with one of these at all?

00:23:29.680 No.

00:23:29.860 So I don't either, right?

00:23:31.280 I haven't had it in years.

00:23:31.900 So I'm going, all right, you do the release.

00:23:33.860 All the steam has come out.

00:23:34.920 All the pressure is gone, right?

00:23:36.200 You take it out.

00:23:37.080 So you take the lid off.

00:23:38.240 You know, you think you're going to be all right.

00:23:39.800 And then you disturb.

00:23:40.880 When you disturb the surface of the thing with, let's say, a spoon or something, that's

00:23:46.160 when it flies, okay?

00:23:49.160 The liquid flies everywhere.

00:23:50.500 Are you kidding me?

00:23:50.920 And the issue is, they say, there's a surface tension if there's fat or oil.

00:23:55.640 I mean, all I'm hearing is I'm never using a water cooker ever again.

00:23:58.420 I know, but, and yet, here I go.

00:24:01.900 I don't want to have to know that if I disturb it, it's going to permanently alter the course of my life.

00:24:08.420 I know, I know.

00:24:09.640 And then I saw some other guy saying he gets chef's whites or something.

00:24:13.880 Which I guess those are not just white clothes.

00:24:16.200 Those protect you from burns, seriously.

00:24:18.660 Wow, that makes sense.

00:24:19.500 Makes so much sense this whole time, you know.

00:24:22.300 But if you agitate it lightly before you disturb it, basically you don't want to have these bubbles of steam.

00:24:31.900 trapped below the surface tension.

00:24:34.200 I don't know.

00:24:34.520 It's a lot, but.

00:24:36.460 Sounds like a living nightmare.

00:24:38.300 However, I just cannot seem to get my grains and dry beans situation

00:24:46.200 into a rhythm that's working for me.

00:24:48.920 It's too long, man.

00:24:51.080 Yeah.

00:24:51.560 It's like, and then also my other problem for getting things are on the stove.

00:24:56.660 So it might be safer for me to have the risk of the multi-cooker.

00:25:01.900 i hear you i mean anyway so that's pretty exciting stuff and then the other question

00:25:07.740 is what what planner do i go with do i try a bunch in january um that's big what else is on my list

00:25:16.440 massive purge massive purge it's begun you're on to shopping i'm completely off shopping because

00:25:24.020 I went hard I got stuff over um you know peak shopping eras I got I I shopped and now I'm done

00:25:33.380 I feel no desire and I want to purge and organize not even I want to purge I want to purge I want

00:25:39.800 to replace I um I had for the first time a fantasy of um not quitting the biz so to speak entirely

00:25:53.420 but I was like I had this very slowly crept in the thing of like oh yeah you know you hear people

00:26:01.320 they go I'm leaving this town I'm gonna go live a country life right yeah and I had I've never in

00:26:08.440 my life had this which is kind of disturbing like wouldn't I have had myself I identify primarily as

00:26:13.460 an intense fantasist and to it to my detriment live in a fantasy world at times and I was like

00:26:19.700 had this fantasy of living but like this idea of like the other life the other career of like

00:26:26.580 well of course I would have my little shop my little market right and I have my little and I

00:26:33.360 live to have that for the first time in the bath this morning strange well it's interesting yeah

00:26:41.360 I mean and of course I'm not actually I don't I don't truly have fantasies of of leaving showbiz

00:26:46.520 but just that

00:26:48.080 still running

00:26:48.680 doing the podcast

00:26:49.780 you'd still have the podcast

00:26:51.100 that's the joke

00:26:52.340 I become

00:26:52.800 imagine I become a doctor

00:26:54.080 yeah

00:26:55.300 still have the podcast

00:26:56.440 well every now and then

00:26:57.980 you have to

00:26:58.580 admit that you could be

00:26:59.800 living a completely different life

00:27:00.880 you have to admit

00:27:01.540 you have to re-choose the life

00:27:02.920 you have to

00:27:03.260 renew your values

00:27:04.380 to your life every day

00:27:05.180 because whether or not

00:27:06.020 you realize it

00:27:06.700 you are

00:27:07.320 and that's

00:27:08.440 and by the way

00:27:09.000 New Year's Eve

00:27:09.580 I mean hey

00:27:10.060 we've talked about this

00:27:11.140 in the past

00:27:11.640 please revisit the POOG

00:27:12.880 New Year's Eve

00:27:13.500 New Year's Resolutions

00:27:14.780 episode

00:27:15.960 peabody worthy if i recall and um i just spread this on my lips

00:27:20.980 out of desperation so i don't have anything right now my lips just went dry as hell but

00:27:29.500 i was thinking i was thinking again because i'm still hooked on gear i want to get us these

00:27:34.580 these little um lavalier kind of but wireless mics we clip them to the our collar and then

00:27:41.300 you and me do i keep talking about this but wireless yeah wireless can't a little fuzzy

00:27:48.980 thing on top how the hell do you have that i told you i got it because i was going to use it for

00:27:53.680 stand-up okay interesting so i'll have to get myself some box i haven't opened it so i'd love 0.84

00:28:00.380 to see it which brand do you know road dgi who cares 100 bucks point is clip it to your neck

00:28:11.080 i clip it to mine i still think i know that people want this okay because i'd want it

00:28:15.500 you and me let's just say new year's purge audio record you and me for an hour okay we're purging

00:28:22.140 our stuff together on the phone yeah and then the listener's purging as well yeah that's

00:28:27.920 excuse me that's big i think

00:28:30.860 just talking going oh here we go do i need this do i not you know i uh i think that i'm realizing

00:28:40.240 that every day not spent in contemplation and reading and worship is a day wasted and

00:28:45.240 I've lived my life in ways that I, you know, stand by, but the phone has to go and it has

00:28:53.480 to go and it won't, obviously, I know that it won't, but I have to seriously revisit.

00:28:58.800 Let's come up with more strategies.

00:29:00.340 I know you say control the mind, okay, but I'm just, can we just have fun with some strategies?

00:29:04.740 Like again, I know we talked years ago, the Instagram hat, the heavy 10 pound hat you

00:29:09.620 have to put on i know whenever you use instagram you know which does require self whatever but i'm

00:29:14.000 going um i think i think zuck zuck poking up from behind your yucky zucky is that is that a term

00:29:23.960 that's you poking up from a case with a molded cut out and poking up from behind totally and then

00:29:33.260 i'm thinking oh i had this idea that i thought would be cool so googling in bed custom phone

00:29:42.020 i started googling in bed like like i was going to become one of these people down like you know

00:29:45.800 i was like i guess i'm going i'm going to go android i'm going to learn software programming

00:29:50.160 to program my own phone right i was like i decided when i was reading i was reading and i go i want

00:29:57.000 to train my brain to while reading breathe in like box breathing okay oh yeah and so i was going what

00:30:03.540 if i trained myself that when my eye is passing the first third of the screen or the first quarter

00:30:11.100 of it i'm inhaling as i'm reading that text and then i'm the bottom like do you see what i'm

00:30:17.060 saying like i train it with reading text that and then i was thinking and i know this must exist if

00:30:23.800 it doesn't already if not we can pop it up we can create it but like it's you know an ambient sound

00:30:32.020 that if you align with it you learn like you know that you know what the inhale is what the hold is

00:30:37.660 what the exhale is sort of guiding you along so you get into that rhythm so you're reading but

00:30:41.100 you're you're like you know how the phone has that thing or the watch or those things that

00:30:47.000 they vibrate in a certain way that cues you like inhale hold exhale it's just like audio track

00:30:51.940 kind of is doing that not without a voice just musically get that going in your home

00:30:56.100 now do you have that going in your home as ambient music that was sort of like

00:30:59.520 and then like and you just got in the rhythm sure until it was natural

00:31:08.200 hey you heard of the breath that's all i'm trying to say you know what i mean by the way 0.92

00:31:14.500 heard of taking a breath because i've got breath by james nester on my fucking shelf for 18 years 0.88

00:31:20.040 but I'm moving toward a monkish life and of course I'm not but the desire is there but it 0.98

00:31:27.960 can be achieved through small everyday action and I again haven't fucking and that's I'm actually

00:31:35.560 curious Jacqueline because I don't know the answer for you when's the last time you sat down and read

00:31:38.800 a book well for pleasure I read I read well if it has to be fiction for pleasure I mean I read

00:31:46.180 things that are not it doesn't like okay what's the last book you read well um right now so here's

00:31:55.720 when i read right now when i want to relax i pull out but i read i still read on my phone for that

00:32:01.960 i order books okay so that doesn't count why i'm talking about physical book because there's all 0.83

00:32:06.420 the research shows that reading on a screen it doesn't it so fucks you i mean i think it's a

00:32:14.620 a little unfair to say that we're the same okay okay if i'm finishing books on my phone no that's 0.93

00:32:21.240 huge but my question was that when's that time did you read a physical book i'm talking about 0.96

00:32:24.520 like you know curled up on the couch the old whatever the fuck um let's see what do i have 0.65

00:32:29.300 i so i have the physical books lying around but they don't get moved to room room to room in the 0.87

00:32:38.680 same way so yeah they're kind of you know it's like reading 12 things at once yeah yeah totally

00:32:44.540 but you know i've been reading this ceo book buy back your time loving it oh yeah yeah yeah

00:32:51.760 well i'm just saying because i i haven't like i was like oh and i say it's with great shame but i

00:32:58.140 was sitting there reading brought me great pleasure after a while but i was like having

00:33:02.240 to reread a simple sentence three times because of the lack of the brain the couldn't i was like 0.99

00:33:09.360 this is fascinating i have fucked my life but i'm gonna unfuck it that's my plan 0.87

00:33:15.860 i mean if you could get a reading corner going for real and that corner is devoted 0.98

00:33:23.240 devoted no i i mean and then i go okay well something yeah something has to change and

00:33:33.980 it's actually simple it's not that much of an overhaul it's small it's the it's the new year's

00:33:39.680 eve resolution bullshit but it's true and that it's just um oh my god i mean cut me off listen

00:33:47.500 to me wait i just want to slow down in the new year and really try to ground and be president 0.99

00:33:51.780 man if you fucking hearing me but it's true i know can't do it anymore the great indignity of 0.92

00:33:56.600 courses i'm gonna quit showbiz and start a store i don't even know what the store is i think it 0.98

00:34:02.620 It would obviously be, you know, tinned goods, I'm thinking.

00:34:05.600 Yeah, exactly.

00:34:06.400 I basically want to have what else we're talking about.

00:34:08.560 I want to have the little grocery up and away.

00:34:13.960 Yeah, brick and mortar. 1.00

00:34:15.040 And start adopting children.

00:34:16.460 I thought that would be so interesting if last night I was like,

00:34:19.060 what if I said, because I might have kids, I might not, who knows,

00:34:23.120 but I know I won't have three kids, right?

00:34:25.340 I think I'm like, one, two seems wild, but, you know, nothing's impossible.

00:34:32.620 But imagine if I went, my new life goal is to have three children.

00:34:35.820 Okay.

00:34:37.660 Can you imagine?

00:34:39.460 I mean, three kids.

00:34:43.680 I mean, I can, but you just mean like if you switch to I'm going to have a store and a market and three kids?

00:34:52.640 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:53.660 And I was like, God, what would that?

00:34:58.360 Just the shocking reality of to begin again.

00:35:01.220 To begin again.

00:35:02.620 me with my store

00:35:04.080 no that's very interesting

00:35:07.760 just the idea that I could

00:35:09.960 no it's really important to realize

00:35:12.080 no it's the same thing I'm saying

00:35:13.320 that's what is so painful and crushing about life

00:35:15.680 we can do these things

00:35:17.220 that's the existential

00:35:18.740 why

00:35:19.940 again

00:35:22.520 I'm not saying that I want to have a store

00:35:25.920 and three kids but

00:35:26.960 gripped by the possibility suddenly

00:35:29.440 for the first time

00:35:30.740 No, what does that remind me of?

00:35:31.780 I had no experience.

00:35:33.060 Oh, oh, I picked up a book.

00:35:34.680 So I gasped.

00:35:36.140 I was so happy that Barnes & Noble opened in my town, you know,

00:35:40.280 after the Borders closed years ago and, you know,

00:35:43.880 cultural center for it to be, used to be next to the movie theater

00:35:47.720 and then for that to close.

00:35:48.760 Huge, huge part of my adolescence, right?

00:35:50.600 I approached Owen Wilson in a Borders when I was 15.

00:35:55.340 Exactly.

00:35:56.380 As a fan.

00:35:57.220 I love Rushmore.

00:35:57.960 Yeah.

00:35:58.620 Yeah.

00:35:59.320 He did not love that I was approaching him.

00:36:01.440 It's one of my only celebrity approaches I've ever done.

00:36:03.760 Yeah.

00:36:05.340 Well, because I feel bad, I went out to shake his hand, which of course is, but also, I was a kid.

00:36:10.680 I was 14, 15.

00:36:11.020 Yeah, you're a kid and you love comedy and you're going like, I want to shake your hand, sir.

00:36:14.880 I was Rushmore.

00:36:15.460 And it's also Rushmorean.

00:36:17.160 It's also Rushmorean.

00:36:18.160 It is.

00:36:18.500 It is.

00:36:18.980 It is.

00:36:19.520 You know how often I like to say, I wrote a hit play.

00:36:22.420 You know what I mean?

00:36:23.640 Oh, it's the best.

00:36:24.260 By the way, I started Jacqueline, the Kite Flying Society at my high school.

00:36:28.800 when we took it again imagine us and then i was like i actually don't care about this

00:36:34.120 wait hold on oh no everything's fine just checking my where my audio is coming in here

00:36:38.040 um but i go in there today and poking around and um there's some book you know the plan

00:36:51.660 something whatever and and i pull it up let's do what this is and it's like

00:36:55.160 it's like someone and it's just about like compassionate um what is it compassionate

00:37:01.580 time management i'm like all right and then it was like free yourself from you know the prison

00:37:07.440 of potential and greatness and i was like no thanks like i was like yeah and i was thinking

00:37:14.000 about it while going home i was like would i prefer greatness or happiness and i was like

00:37:17.220 greatness like i was like i was like but but also like you know make peace with it kind of right

00:37:23.180 Like, I'm not saying I'd stand by that necessarily.

00:37:27.540 Yeah.

00:37:28.060 But I, like, closed the book and sent it back.

00:37:30.960 Right.

00:37:31.480 I was like, not today.

00:37:33.060 Yeah.

00:37:33.540 I get it, like.

00:37:34.660 I get why that book's there.

00:37:36.000 Like, it's like, master, you know, master the one thing and then go running to her.

00:37:41.300 You know what I mean?

00:37:41.840 Yeah.

00:37:42.080 i've always wanted to you know to um suffer the the emptiness of of achieving everything you've

00:37:54.780 wanted you know and then and then have to of course you know i'm like great yeah let me see

00:38:00.240 it means nothing you know of course you know i'm drunk in the yeah in the in the penthouse

00:38:05.780 apartment yeah in new york on christmas alone yeah i mean that's the yeah that's that's why

00:38:12.340 like scrooge huge throwing the martini glass against the wall it shatters and then yeah

00:38:20.020 there's something i'm like then i'll know i've really done it but i've been yeah i've been going

00:38:25.940 i don't know there's a lot happening here at least i was able to convert convert a couple

00:38:33.120 family members into the esselstyn and gregor lifestyle with it with three and and clapper 0.98

00:38:38.020 that other guy three back-to-back 15-minute ted talks put them on the tv and just suck them suck 0.99

00:38:44.700 them right in oh you you you showed them yeah so that that's always satisfying convert at the 0.95

00:38:50.380 holidays meanwhile my dad meanwhile my dad today's making an egg and i'm like oh no right because

00:38:56.160 and i say this is a joke because it's like the joke i'm like dad enjoy that it's your last egg

00:39:00.560 I know three months ago, I got you on eggs.

00:39:04.080 Or not three months ago, but a year ago.

00:39:05.440 Oh, right, right, right.

00:39:06.180 Like, I converted you to the egg, begged you, got you there, convinced you.

00:39:10.480 And now you're saying get off.

00:39:11.480 Yeah, I'm like, I'm sorry, you just got to go where I lead.

00:39:13.660 You are at the whims of my latest.

00:39:15.840 What's the big no-egg thing?

00:39:17.080 No, I just mean, like, if you're going down the no-animal protein.

00:39:20.320 Now I'm trying to get them off the animal protein, back to grain.

00:39:22.940 You know, it's chaos.

00:39:25.840 Yeah.

00:39:26.020 um thinking about i'm dealing with sort of tri-state area okay i'm going what is it to

00:39:34.460 roll around roll around town and just familiar landscapes the familiar shape of the buildings

00:39:41.680 yeah their colors the way the trees look just colors of this weather combined with it even if

00:39:49.920 the stores at the bottom change you know the sort of wet on the top i was thinking about this today

00:39:54.920 familiarity and what is it about the feeling of a hometown and i was speaking specifically about

00:39:59.760 the horror the thing that turn on the six o'clock six o'clock news i know that that's the right like

00:40:06.120 the classic kind of fantasy horror of um terror striking at home right turn on the tv there's a

00:40:12.260 library right that's my old neighborhood like like i don't know what i'm it's just funny you

00:40:20.900 say because just today i was thinking about it recognizing right in the screen um but i was

00:40:28.820 just thinking like because you just get this feeling it's that i try to unpack what it is and

00:40:36.860 go is it good is it bad like like do i like it don't i like it it's like nostalgia familiarity

00:40:44.700 it's like i don't even know what i'm feeling anymore i'm just like is this good or bad if

00:40:50.300 you know what I mean like it's just like I'm at a war with nostalgia yeah no right now exactly

00:40:57.700 okay I'm like because I have intense nostalgia yeah my analyst and I were talking about it what

00:41:03.640 she said she was like well it is a pathology you know or it's like it can be very damaging

00:41:08.000 because it feels like addiction kind of it is addiction you know to the familiar yeah it's

00:41:16.840 addiction it's it's control it's um in fact i the other day i did something that to me was a huge

00:41:23.000 um moment of recovery which was that there's a candle that i bought in mexico city maybe

00:41:28.500 four years ago and i burned it good good good good instead of hoarding it instead of the tomb

00:41:36.540 yeah tomb to former selves the tomb to the past yeah yeah my sister cleared out burned it some

00:41:42.540 of the products in the bathroom that we use like the kids bathroom essentially that we use when

00:41:46.880 we're here you know she's like it's been the same like half empty shampoo bottle for like 20 years

00:41:51.380 you know like and um I was eating I was eating um tortilla chips like standing in the kitchen at

00:41:59.180 night and and the comfort of the flavor there's just the comfort of tortilla chips in that kitchen

00:42:05.860 at night like some kind of I don't know 90s nostalgia like it just

00:42:13.040 food nostalgia just crisps did you ever have those wait they're kind of crouton that my mom

00:42:24.100 used to buy really and they're fucking amazing and I used to stand in the kitchen and I wasn't

00:42:29.860 even so obsessed with them but my best friend at the time Sammy I say at the time sounds like

00:42:35.660 something horrible happened we're still extremely close but um she was so drawn to them and i

00:42:42.060 drawn to them again using such dramatic terminology for just she liked the chip

00:42:47.580 well we are we are these audio entertainers oh oh right wait and these are just like pure 0.95

00:42:54.440 fucking it says just off melrose like so they're just crisps but actually it's just off melrose 0.95

00:43:03.960 crisps no i i don't really understand just just off melrose just crisps but just you saying that 0.98

00:43:15.160 of standing in the kitchen eating the snack do you remember when tara chips took the nation by

00:43:19.980 the throat storm yeah well that was the future yeah internet the terror potato it was like

00:43:25.820 orange going back yeah what about the lie that it was the veggie straw ones the greasiest thing 0.91

00:43:33.720 has ever existed the veggie straw oh i know but but back to tara yeah fucking amazing purple 0.99

00:43:41.000 long strip fuck me those are good and then guiltless gourmet has become garden of eton 0.99

00:43:49.520 i don't know okay that's hysterical i saw them because they were right guilt you can't talk 0.99

00:43:57.740 about guilt anymore it's ridiculous guilt free that's not fashionable but yeah guiltless

00:44:03.580 gourmet but that was that was very funny in the 90s we need more guilt we need more remorse in 0.98

00:44:07.120 the culture yeah yeah fucked us and a bunch of things and then but not around the food that 0.66

00:44:12.220 would be unacceptable so now it's garden the criminalization of shame that's gonna be my book 0.95

00:44:17.020 the criminalization of shame and how it's completely ruined the arts the arts are

00:44:24.720 essentially over of course they're not just feeling hyperbolic with the flu but it's kind

00:44:29.600 have also done film is essentially over it's not but it also completely is it's a very interesting

00:44:34.780 time that's why i might go make my store i might go have three kids and have a store

00:44:38.320 or we go and make film kate no i know i make my art no i know and i'm going to continue to make

00:44:46.200 my work cinema projector god i get so pumped with projectors all the time in the fantasy season oh

00:44:54.300 i could just on the side of a wall yeah cinema breaks down get everyone gather at midnight

00:45:01.060 i'm projecting something folks you know when's the last time what's the last movie you saw in 0.90

00:45:06.460 theaters sitting to the trailers was fucking agony and i know this everyone's been saying 0.99

00:45:10.800 for a year it's all remakes but like it really hit hard the last time yeah fucking punch to the 0.98

00:45:18.340 a jaw-breaking punch every trailer because it's all remake so it's like guessing the answer kind 0.89

00:45:23.740 have like it's like guessing the answer of what what remake you're i mean i don't just mind i

00:45:30.200 don't know what i i don't know i don't know i mind i mean certainly plenty i mind but no but

00:45:36.420 no it's more just that it's not oh here's a remake here that it's like i sat through trailers they

00:45:40.100 were this is it sounds like i'm exaggerating they were all that there was right i was like

00:45:44.700 where's the original idea where's the indie comedy where like it was crazy it was like how

00:45:51.060 to train your dragon one through six conclave was fresh right conclave was fresh yeah what else was

00:45:56.920 was fresh that i saw what was the last thing i saw um i'm also right behind i feel like i saw

00:46:03.220 horror no what could have been oh well you know i saw the terrifier i want to just acknowledge

00:46:07.680 from the terrifier who cares you know it's a cliche critique everything's a remake but

00:46:13.720 but sometimes um the age old the critique that feels tired has to be brushed off

00:46:20.600 that being said

00:46:22.540 I am very hopeful

00:46:23.260 for the new year

00:46:23.980 I want to be clear

00:46:24.600 I know I sound

00:46:25.220 a little downtrodden

00:46:26.580 perhaps

00:46:27.040 everyone could do

00:46:29.460 do my freakish thing

00:46:31.360 which was like

00:46:32.040 obsessive

00:46:32.760 one year

00:46:33.320 I was like

00:46:33.780 I think I was living here

00:46:34.720 at my parents

00:46:35.160 I'm like I'm going to Target

00:46:36.140 I'm going to buy

00:46:37.400 all the supplies

00:46:38.380 I need for the whole year

00:46:39.320 so I don't have to go

00:46:40.260 you know

00:46:41.580 it'd be like

00:46:41.940 buy 12 boxes of tampons

00:46:44.120 buy

00:46:44.540 do my shopping once

00:46:46.900 see you next year

00:46:48.220 the Costco mindset

00:46:50.600 interesting another place i've never been and once again i heard because i heard it from you

00:46:56.200 and then i heard it from family full episode we're gonna do it we're gonna do a bonus episode

00:47:00.460 with it's final wireless lavaliers going to costco because you are going to the way down you might

00:47:05.740 have like a full attack of excitement yeah mania but come out with a sauna i mean well trust me

00:47:15.400 I've looked at the sauna but there is the question of I mean it works till we live in a more of a

00:47:25.680 city style where we stroll to the supermarket and get the thing we need like we get go and get our

00:47:31.180 apples every day you're never gonna leave the house you have to right you have to go to the

00:47:35.140 store you know I continue to pose these questions Kate of what are we doing here and I know and I

00:47:43.400 go is this you know is this a place for art is this not a place you know you know what is it

00:47:48.740 what must it be of course siloed from art is it you know and um i just think i was thinking about

00:47:59.200 it today when i was driving to target and remembering times when i would listen to this

00:48:05.080 hey house radio like self-help such spiritual like you know hour-long shows of these different

00:48:11.300 people and it was just so comforting to get in the car and have one ready to go or turn it on

00:48:17.520 you know what i mean hearing people talk i was listening to connie chung today being interviewed

00:48:21.060 on fresh air a terry gross stand-in not to diminish whoever that was i don't know why i felt the need

00:48:27.240 to say it wasn't terry gross but it's fresh air it was fabulous and it was like pure warm butter

00:48:32.600 and again connie chung fascinating did you know do you know who she's married to oh wait i know

00:48:39.040 this maury no maury povich they've been married for 30 years really they're madly in love that 0.92

00:48:48.020 rules that rules i mean i'm inferring that but that's a fucking cool couple but i just think

00:48:58.120 well yeah maury and connie are coming over she's talking about him what are we getting maury and 0.54

00:49:02.560 connie this year my best friend's like she's like he's so smart i mean yeah he's smart guess what 0.98

00:49:08.080 else with his honey fucking loaded i mean they both are god damn but like but she's like he's so 0.95

00:49:15.800 smart you know i tell him all the time you know i've always said to him you should have a serious 0.99

00:49:19.420 show because everyone and you know he always i i do it i do a junk talk show right everyone

00:49:23.780 you are not the father you know that's what his but i was like that is i gotta get over to that

00:49:30.740 house for dinner wednesdays monday's with maury yeah get it all right tuesdays with maury when

00:49:37.040 that swept the nation i've never seen dinner with andre speaking well the myth of cape berlant

00:49:43.620 falls apart instantly the moment that you haven't seen it but wait and i know why why it's come up

00:49:50.340 okay we'll get to that another time but but wait hold on hold on so i was just thinking

00:49:55.420 if all we offer okay sorry if all we offer if all is one hour of you know chatter of just audio

00:50:06.720 presence yes just company just yeah clucking in the hen house company turn it on and here we are

00:50:15.480 that's what we should have called the show oh we still can we can change as a company tomorrow

00:50:20.240 that's a good line i mean i like that company company i mean that's what i you know but well

00:50:28.480 well company pitch my depression book as is keeping them company right yeah keeping you company

00:50:35.380 comfort and company

00:50:37.660 company

00:50:39.740 beautiful word

00:50:41.920 timpani and the fact that

00:50:43.680 this show

00:50:44.900 is not explicitly trying to be

00:50:47.860 non-stop entertainment

00:50:48.780 we're not condescending

00:50:51.980 to our listeners that they're

00:50:53.360 children that need to receive

00:50:56.260 pure pleasure

00:50:57.260 it's not a smooth

00:50:59.480 it's not a smooth podcast

00:51:01.820 it's demanding

00:51:03.440 many of you may have shut it off by now

00:51:05.300 to those still listening i love the idea of it challenge it's challenging it's challenging we're

00:51:10.280 like we challenge our listener and then like cut to like cut to the 30 second clip about

00:51:13.980 you know whatever but when someone when someone gets it oh when someone gets it

00:51:21.780 you know what i mean because oh yeah i gotta i gotta just shout out some of our listeners 0.98

00:51:26.360 okay yeah who fucking get it and and you're like damn thank god and they you know what i mean like 0.99

00:51:33.340 because a couple people are going these fucking screeching sluts or these you know but a few 0.99

00:51:40.940 people go they got me through a tough day to offer company elevated me today to offer yeah 0.98

00:51:48.400 and i was oh and then the other thought i had was i was like you know i was really just i was i was

00:51:53.660 rolling around in the tri-state area was sort of wintry landscape and of nostalgia going i don't

00:52:00.660 know if I can be in a place with this level of nostalgia I just have to keep it moving in this

00:52:04.360 life I don't know but I was like you know I know that getting on the pod with Kate will do something

00:52:11.020 it will draw me out of my brain and it'll do something and I'm like if once a week you and me

00:52:16.840 kind of alchemize our moods a little bit with each other and with them that's that's that's

00:52:28.000 pretty good it's moving lymph the show is moving lymph you know oh go out to your car you know

00:52:37.560 sit in your garage and listen to listen to the app oh yeah hopefully not with the

00:52:43.280 not with the garage door closed open that up guys let's let the exhaust go out yeah

00:52:49.380 it definitely don't yeah um don't do it but um well by the way and not to just try to really

00:52:57.920 wrap it up we do have to wrap it up and it is it is new year's and this is a lot listen

00:53:03.120 everything can change and also nothing has to and it's fine yeah my strongest belief is

00:53:09.000 is is transformation is possible at any moment okay okay and to be freed and i often give a

00:53:16.400 you know i almost want and they cut it from my depression book because they like it was too much

00:53:21.780 they were like you're a comedian it's too like it's not funny or whatever but basically like

00:53:26.040 before you throw your life away physically why not at least experiment with throwing

00:53:31.200 everything else in your life away so like before you decide to throw your body away right like

00:53:37.360 yeah why not leave the country totally and never talk to anyone you ever spoke to again

00:53:45.160 yeah completely it's like give that a shot for a week you know it's like people buy into their

00:53:50.920 life so hardcore that they think the only exit is death go or or or you know ride the rails i mean

00:53:57.980 it's like ride the fucking rails if you have to shake it up no there's always a way out it doesn't 0.88

00:54:05.040 involve death yeah that's what i'm saying that's all i'm saying yeah all right i love you love you 0.98

00:54:10.780 happy fucking new year happy new year and thank you to our listeners 0.87

00:54:14.420 thank you so much you have no idea it's all happening now this is a this is all it's all 0.97

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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - January 06, 2025

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