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00:02:35.460 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:36.940 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:02:38.020 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

00:02:42.800 Two untamable intellects.

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00:02:49.960 Today's topic, loosely speaking.

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00:03:01.360 There's something I'll just, I know that we talk so much about packing and travel and I swear to God, everyone will stop.

00:03:09.500 But I do find myself packing.

00:03:12.920 What? You refuse to stop. Yeah.

00:03:15.080 I discussed before the extreme luck of receiving a shocking White Lotus gift package.

00:03:21.180 Yes.

00:03:21.520 you know and one of the items in this white lotus promotional box or whatever was a beautiful

00:03:28.840 leather toiletry kit embossed with the white lotus resort right label right so i immediately took

00:03:35.220 this i i held it in my hands and thought well this is one of my most prized possessions now

00:03:39.220 the idea of sullying it the idea of a smear of lipstick getting on the inside or anything is

00:03:44.220 unbearable so do i keep it in a tomb essentially and never use it so i'm going to new york

00:03:50.700 you know big trip my big show right and i thought well isn't this an opportunity to use it 0.99

00:03:56.440 and i'm paralyzed still wanting to save it do i use it are you insane are you a fool yeah i just 0.90

00:04:03.700 like took it down and i was like i was like well it's gonna be dirty yeah just use it just use it 0.91

00:04:09.500 i'm surprised it'll bring me joy it was free it was free it was a promotional item it's embossed

00:04:16.120 with the utter crassness of a television program's name,

00:04:18.960 technically speaking, right?

00:04:20.780 Well, no, see, this is the artistry of the promotion here

00:04:23.940 is it says the White Lotus Resort.

00:04:26.120 And by the way, I have one.

00:04:27.300 No, no, HBO is nowhere on it.

00:04:29.080 Yeah.

00:04:29.520 No, no, no, absolutely.

00:04:30.860 But I just mean, technically, it's still-

00:04:33.540 Merch.

00:04:34.440 The White Lotus Resort isn't a real resort.

00:04:36.740 It's, yeah, it's merch, okay?

00:04:38.040 And it came to you for free, okay?

00:04:39.840 Correct, correct, correct, correct. 1.00

00:04:41.280 So this is your fucking chance. 0.99

00:04:46.120 to live free you know where I went with it it's so funny I was like I should save it for my 1.00

00:04:51.760 honeymoon that is the most deranged okay not engaged first of all why do you think that on

00:05:00.640 your honeymoon you're suddenly gonna become this character that no it's deranged no no I know it's

00:05:08.900 a childhood fantasy well first of all let me just say okay it finally happened I mean not it finally

00:05:15.160 I gave my hefty strong seal and you'll notice. So disaster has struck. I didn't close some kind

00:05:24.880 of brown shadow. Oh no. And everything's covered in brown shadow. I found myself asking a weird

00:05:32.620 philosophical question. Okay. So it's brown eyeshadow crushed up, right? And it's over

00:05:37.520 every single product in my makeup bag. So when I went to apply highlighter stick or something

00:05:43.340 and i go to you know dab it in and then oh there's brown shadow in my hand so now i've just you know

00:05:48.360 dabbed a brown shadow where i was trying to do a highlight it's just it's all over everything's

00:05:52.300 all over my hands is disaster yeah i would start crying yeah for some reason i was just going would

00:05:57.440 i rather if this were hot cocoa i mean like powder cocoa powder spilled in my makeup bag

00:06:03.780 or brown eyeshadow i don't know why i was asking this question but i was because it kind of looks

00:06:08.000 like i was imagining a swiss miss opened up in there the answer is makeup it's obvious right

00:06:14.560 oh because why the sugar would get sticky yeah i guess i i there's no story here other than the

00:06:20.960 fact that isn't it i don't know i was just lying there thinking that so so you can imagine knowing

00:06:26.400 like later today i'm going to be taking these off to my my show it's all covered and how is that

00:06:34.600 gonna make me feel you know now i do have these little makeup wipes things covered in i use one

00:06:41.720 on the product itself oh right wash off yeah yeah or do i submerge everything see this is the kind 0.77

00:06:49.860 of shit i would do i would dump it all into like a soapy bin and accept that some of the stuff will

00:06:55.140 be destroyed by the soap but at least there'll be a cleanness to the process like not every product 0.99

00:06:59.420 in here surely is sealed that's that's hard i've begun cleaning on the i've become cleaning on

00:07:05.880 on the recording well that's like an open in my purse i had a lipstick the top came off

00:07:12.320 and some of the pigment the red pigment smeared on some other items and i dealt with it i dealt

00:07:19.620 with it i was actually i was fine really you're just taking hyperbole and it it wasn't i i sort

00:07:29.740 of was like it was upsetting and i thought hmm and i'm by the way i remain firm in this i blame

00:07:36.580 the lipstick i blame the top for being so flimsy for popping off with such ease well some of them

00:07:41.520 are resting on there with the gentleness of you know a lid around an eyeball i mean it's just

00:07:48.380 it's flip right off i have to say i have a fenty lipstick color that i really enjoy

00:07:54.160 the top is a suggestion of a top it does not work okay so this is a huge risk to bring this item

00:08:01.380 into your purse it's going to pop off so wait so i want to say that yesterday so i'm going on this

00:08:05.920 big trip right and i'm like you know what i have to i went to sephora and i got a couple items

00:08:11.200 and i was like i'm going to take these to new york brand new right this is going to be my lipstick

00:08:15.540 for the next few months this is going to be my and so now i'm going back to the white lotus

00:08:20.380 makeup bag i want everyone to know i'm deciding right now i'm bringing it okay it's time

00:08:23.820 it's not that one live what i mean and it arrived free as a gift so it's it's like a year ago i've

00:08:32.620 been i haven't touched it for a year i've been saving it yeah again for what so and uh again

00:08:38.180 i'm just doing a right turn here into products but i did buy the charlotte tilbury flawless finish

00:08:43.860 filter you know i'm talking about that sort of foundation um no it's not going to be my

00:08:49.040 everyday foundation but it is kind of a highlighter it can be sort of used for

00:08:53.780 possibly extra coverage it's good for stage not the thing we have not the thing that you and me

00:08:58.960 both have the palette i just pulled it right out which which i use now yeah and you know i cover

00:09:04.180 my face in it before the stage wait do you use okay okay this is great because i also i'm talking

00:09:09.740 about stage makeup the highlighter element of this i kind of like just put it everywhere it

00:09:15.340 reminds me of kind of back in the day to be clear this is a two-tone palette yes it's a two-tone

00:09:20.340 film star bronze and glow so there's a bronze and a glow and you know they say sculpt blend

00:09:27.300 blend the face sculpt onto cheek hollows you know what i heard temple's jawline sides and tips of

00:09:36.320 nose oh because okay so first of all i purchased and this change has changed a lot of my life i

00:09:43.940 finally purchased good brushes okay and it was a poog listener who recommended the morph

00:09:49.860 set because they're affordable but high quality after we discussed your need like and the desire

00:09:55.400 i mean my desire i'm looking i'm holding a brush right now that i can't remember oh yeah it's the

00:09:59.280 kashuk i got it at a kashuk that i got at target look at it okay um go on anyway the brushes are

00:10:07.300 huge and there's one that so the now that i have the proper face brushes that bronzer i started to

00:10:13.340 play with oh so gently but i had a makeup artist tell me the out of the face don't go toward the 0.52

00:10:17.940 middle that's where you get fucked up with bronzer like just trace like cheekbone jaw like you know

00:10:23.160 whatever like keep it to the perimeter the part that's receding i mean in theory it's like we're 0.82

00:10:28.820 painting i guess so we're going yeah like the part that's we don't want the face to turn into

00:10:35.140 a flat plate right because it's not so in theory you take the parts that are already receding such

00:10:40.520 as the side and you you you do a contour there to right i mean i interesting i guess i just i resent

00:10:48.500 like the limits of contour i don't really understand fully but i'm glad to hear there's a

00:10:54.520 There's a highlighter that I really like that's quite pricey.

00:10:58.700 It's the Westman Atelier highlighter.

00:11:01.340 Right.

00:11:01.780 No, I think of you every time because you have the,

00:11:04.760 what was the first thing you had from them?

00:11:06.400 Oh, that was it or blush or something?

00:11:08.340 No, the lipstick.

00:11:09.460 Oh, it was the lip palette?

00:11:10.260 $4,000.

00:11:11.600 Yeah, it's a lipstick palette.

00:11:12.760 No, but you had something in a little compact.

00:11:14.740 Yes, it was lipsticks.

00:11:16.220 And then I got that as a gift for somebody.

00:11:19.180 It's a beautiful object, but I have to be honest with you.

00:11:21.940 I'm learning about very nice gifts.

00:11:23.380 i'm learning about myself that's a lipstick palette that ostensibly you would be applying

00:11:27.440 with a brush i like something in it it's just of course what no i'm not gonna be out

00:11:34.920 with a little brush in the bathroom at a restaurant with a little retractable brush

00:11:39.460 touching up from a palette i mean i want something i can do you could dab a pinky in there

00:11:45.100 and get it done yes you can but then we get into germs and i i don't then drag it along the wall

00:11:50.280 of the bathroom along the bathroom stall you drag along along the bathroom stall wall

00:11:55.620 across the graffiti across the dirty cartoons across the names of yesteryear yeah but what i

00:12:03.780 was so uh what i thought was so appealing about that westman compact the time you time i saw it

00:12:09.440 on your dining room table in your open concept has a nice weight to it it's heavy the weight

00:12:14.480 that's it i gasped screamed yeah and i and i urine and i go okay this is why she uh

00:12:22.240 i've been using this same milk mascara so this listeners may note the sound that is in fact me

00:12:29.820 going through every item in this bag and cleaning it off i was gonna say you might want to ease up

00:12:33.820 on that with a all right i'll finally stop with a um we all remember the early days when you used

00:12:40.080 to eat during the show it's so horrifying does mascara go bad or does it just become

00:12:50.220 more capable of being clumpy and therefore here's the thing perfect i will never forget this i read

00:12:57.800 somewhere something tyra banks i was reading an article she said every three to four months you 0.94

00:13:03.700 have to change your mascara oh fuck i just remembered why i just remembered why germs 0.96

00:13:10.600 well yeah i mean it's like i never fucking realized humiliated like i knew this once 0.99

00:13:15.600 and then forgot the eye is like the asshole of the face it's like yeah 0.98

00:13:19.380 i mean i would dare to say the nose but but nonetheless yeah i know but it's a pleasing

00:13:29.680 idea it's a pleasing idea well that's the one thing like sharing mascara i've had a close friend

00:13:34.980 try to use her mascara i'm like no you can use my lipstick were you taught that by your mother

00:13:39.200 because i was taught you do not share mascara i think my mom i just always felt that i was like

00:13:44.520 you can't share mascara and then teenager kind of pressure hey can i have a little sure gal as a

00:13:49.640 teenager i may have like hey yeah try my clinique i'll try your mac or whatever but now it's over

00:13:54.400 okay i know i know i'm spinning wildly all over the place but i just want to quickly say that

00:13:58.800 because i posted about this once on the poog instagram i believe the zit patch brand zit

00:14:04.600 sticka sorry guys i'm just saying how it's written how it's literally written i know it's expensive

00:14:09.600 it's amazing and i now don't think i could ever live without it the micro dart ones that have the

00:14:16.060 baby needles i know this doesn't really apply to you jacklyn because you don't get you don't get

00:14:19.840 no i um did on the plane and i was given one of those i believe it was that brand i was handed

00:14:26.400 one of those by a stranger and noticed no I'm just kidding I was handed one of those and I

00:14:32.300 placed it on and I really gave it a little shove I want to make sure those darts were in

00:14:37.260 oh those needles yeah because you got and you feel it somehow you feel it doesn't hurt it's

00:14:42.680 gentle but it's there yeah but it's there and uh you know what was let me just say really quick

00:14:47.760 because I'm coming across my NARS orgasm slash hot sand palette mini palette and blush never

00:14:53.260 forget yeah and related to the charlotte tilbury thing i remember hearing way back when uh nars

00:14:59.600 blush in the color orgasm was like just being treated as like the ultimate and like it's the

00:15:04.520 one it's the one yeah i remember i remember hearing this thing about a makeup artist saying

00:15:08.440 like i put it all over the face and it was like oh so just kind of uh and that's sort of where i

00:15:16.520 stole the the tilbury kind of i just you know there's something really satisfying about being

00:15:20.980 like someone who oh no what oh god no what no it's not that bad okay talk about so i just dropped

00:15:29.500 onto an airbnb chair oh no what may or may not be a tiny little piece of lipstick just free

00:15:35.760 roaming pigment now i'm gonna a shard yeah i'm gonna slide a little card under it yeah what

00:15:43.000 now what do i have with me to use i'm gonna use this package of a dr dennis gross thing and i'm

00:15:49.580 going to get it. Do you have a strategy for when you see a spider? I'm curious because

00:15:55.140 okay. So there's been some astonishing, massive specimens. Whoa. Spiders. Whoa. Okay. I got it.

00:16:04.260 By the way, I lifted it. It was absolutely pure pigment of lipstick and it did not touch the

00:16:08.700 chair. Good job. So the spider thing. So I actually have a bug catcher that is one of my

00:16:15.840 favorite items it's like under ten dollars it's quite large so you couldn't travel with it unless

00:16:20.380 you were you know did you tell me about this and i didn't understand its construction i think so

00:16:25.560 because i i i have a fascination with bugs i wish i could observe them i could watch them for hours

00:16:31.160 if i just knew they couldn't get free and right on to my face yeah and so this is a spider catcher

00:16:36.720 so it's like this little box you put it down you slide this this has like a retractable door this

00:16:43.980 is going to be impossible to describe uh without a visual reference but you put this little like

00:16:50.060 windows a magnifying glass you have this retractable door you slide it under the insect so it's fine

00:16:55.080 it's in there it's alive you are safe you can turn it around you can stare at it for as long as you

00:16:59.460 want and then there's a handle on it so you can at a safe distance fling it outside and i've done

00:17:04.840 that many times and many a spider and when you fling it it uh opens in some capacity so it can

00:17:11.020 get out yeah so you retract the door with your thumb and then throw it yeah interesting that

00:17:17.320 thing is amazing and by the way where is it because i was there was a huge spider the other

00:17:21.220 day and i was ran to the drawer where i thought that thing lived it wasn't there how big not not

00:17:27.160 i just wonder if it was big as what i saw because this was like quarter this was a quarter like

00:17:31.940 including wingspan of its legs yeah it wasn't huge right not the not the base

00:17:37.600 no oh my god no

00:17:40.580 I know I gotta even move off the topic

00:17:44.900 because I don't want to think about the spider anymore

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00:18:56.400 It was many and many a year ago

00:18:59.900 in a kingdom by the sea

00:19:01.580 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune

00:19:06.080 It was hard to wrap your head around

00:19:07.320 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs

00:19:10.760 No, I am not your guru

00:19:14.340 And back then, I lied to my parents

00:19:17.160 I lied to police

00:19:18.420 I lied to everybody

00:19:19.560 There were years right where I could not say your name

00:19:22.540 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California

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00:21:56.020 i have a question how much water are you drinking traveling here we go you ready

00:22:03.420 oh wow she just popped up with a water bottle this hideous water and this was purchased i

00:22:12.620 believe two days ago oh no maybe i opened this yesterday morning and this is all i've had

00:22:17.980 so yesterday morning okay yeah not enough so all i've had is half of a all i've had

00:22:25.080 technically of water is this is two liters so i've had maybe a liter of water over like the

00:22:29.820 last like day and a half yeah it's not good as we know and you wonder why i why i you know why you

00:22:37.640 toil no i uh i'm in a bad place with water she's intentionally drawing her yeah yeah so i'm in a

00:22:49.020 bad place with water i my aqua true i'm sorry this is right i'm not degrading the product but

00:22:55.040 i have to move off of it it naturally this is something that happens a green moss or film can

00:22:59.920 develop inside of it it's happened a couple times i can't take it anymore i can't use bleach and do

00:23:06.420 it it's too overwhelming for me i just cannot do it so i for the last two weeks manages ours and so

00:23:13.500 yeah we i just can't do it anymore and so the for the last two weeks i've been purchasing water

00:23:19.220 which is something that i haven't done in a million years and i have a lot of shame surrounding

00:23:23.620 the plastic and whatnot but i am i've been buying water which is hell not to mention the micro

00:23:29.260 plastics that are now even further lining my uterus so you're not buying one of your glass

00:23:34.180 your glass waters you're not doing your pallets of mountain valley or whatever

00:23:38.320 remember that for like two months oh that was heaven um no oh wow let's see your jug

00:23:45.820 this is my jug which is some alkaline yeah water thing a gallon purple kind of

00:23:53.220 branding kind of sporty futuristic branding mine is morrison since 1899 savers

00:24:03.280 i'm already panicking panicking about water in new york and what i'm gonna do i'm like okay well

00:24:09.200 here we go am i just gonna be buying more water because you know i'm moving i mean you're not

00:24:13.280 gonna make me say it are you what new york tap is this really gonna be a tap water moment well

00:24:21.160 that's what i said i said you're not gonna make me say it are you it's not 1994 it's called 0.99

00:24:27.060 you get a fucking brita all right and you suck it up i know oh no no okay you're fine 0.99

00:24:35.180 better news better news the lark water bottle l-a-r-q i've been hearing about this self-purifying 1.00

00:24:44.360 water bottle oh right i'm gonna buy it everyone can go to hell i'm gonna buy it and the whole

00:24:49.200 idea is that through uv lights or something it cleans your water what well see that oh if that's

00:24:59.640 what it is all it's doing if it's doing that sounds to me like it's like killing bacteria

00:25:04.300 or the claim so it's killing bacteria but if it's not filtering anything out that's not filtering

00:25:09.600 anything out you know i'm saying no i know honey i mean i know what you mean meaning you're talking

00:25:14.600 about it's not it's not a you know well it's anything that's in there is still in there maybe

00:25:21.120 you've killed the i don't know i mean you're describing a product to me and i'm criticizing

00:25:26.240 the product but it might not be what the product actually is i can't remember if i've brought up

00:25:31.080 my numb fingertips yet on my entire right hand or my my numb fingers my half of my hand half of my

00:25:38.560 half of my right hand is numb um it's been this way for weeks it's it's i believe connected to

00:25:46.980 all my neck and shoulder stuff like a nerve thing yeah yeah that's what if yeah you know it's like

00:25:53.120 oh now i'm googling thoracic outlet syndrome you know or like i see thoracic outlet syndromes

00:25:59.020 somewhere and i'm like oh i wonder because it sure sounds like like some blood is not being

00:26:04.100 outlet from the thoracic region do some bloodletting so i'm on youtube youtube in the

00:26:10.240 morning and i'm doing exercises i'm doing self-massage of the scalenes okay uh before i

00:26:18.500 actually stretch them this one guy says if you don't massage them if you don't strip the muscle

00:26:23.400 whatever the hell that means new term i'm gonna have to look up and you don't i don't know break

00:26:27.100 up the fascial adhesions then your stretching isn't going to do anything he also says if if

00:26:32.800 you don't hold your stretch for more than 30 seconds he says 30 to 60 you're just staying in

00:26:38.660 elasticity not plasticity so you're not actually changing the muscle oh god not actually so so

00:26:46.960 your little yank yank stretches it's fake unless you're in 30 plus you're you're living a lie

00:26:54.440 what are your other topics besides you mean my crushing um medical damage no interest in

00:27:03.880 no my arm is numb what are your other topics

00:27:11.280 uh I got two treatments while here in uh I know I don't care at all I'm just trying to

00:27:19.120 make you laugh no i know but i am so i am so horrified by i just don't even know what to say

00:27:25.160 like well the hand's numb no it's just it's so crazy i feel so bad for you that i can't bring

00:27:30.840 myself to evil i actually by the way you know how i yell angry things in my sleep yep yep want to

00:27:38.800 know the one i did the other day for those who may have forgotten when jacqueline and i were in when

00:27:43.200 i was in paradise because i had jacqueline to myself for four days and we were having a sleep 0.99

00:27:48.340 over every night and I would wake up to Jacqueline going shut the fuck up full volume shut the fuck 1.00

00:27:56.660 up that's how this woman wakes up unbelievable so Chris reported the other day while here 1.00

00:28:05.580 you ready for this one yeah shove it 1.00

00:28:08.220 shove it

00:28:12.220 i mean it's just amazing is that not and i may have said it twice that's like past life

00:28:19.860 coming to the surface i'm like past life from the 80s though yeah yeah shove it

00:28:25.560 i've got oh you know what's been exciting here talk about food you know it's whatever

00:28:32.680 it's tough however i have located at the grocery store so they've got the you know fire okay the

00:28:39.860 greek yogurt they have the five percent which is you know the beginning of where i like to

00:28:43.400 start okay they have the five percent because it's fattier well then next to it is an entirely

00:28:48.020 different brand and it's 10 fat oh it's unbelievable well once you leave america the dairy is just

00:28:58.640 better and i don't know how i'm gonna get it in the states i don't know how you're not going to

00:29:03.100 sweetheart i'll never forget when i was in edinburgh scotland which again i say this with

00:29:09.100 love worst food i've ever consumed in my life in that town it was devastating i was the first like

00:29:15.220 i was there for a little over a month the first week a depression a sadness set in from being

00:29:19.880 unsatisfied that was so like just i couldn't locate and going to restaurants i was like

00:29:26.040 every like they didn't know that lemon juice like every salad was sweet they're like well

00:29:31.220 this one has cranberries oh yeah walnuts blueberries and grapes i was like great

00:29:37.160 do you have lemon salt and olive oil i know i know the um sweet salad i was so angry it was

00:29:43.360 really it was really upsetting sweet salad at every turn and of course i know everything's

00:29:47.920 very fried and heavy with the exception of one restaurant called elliott's i was in hell the

00:29:51.520 whole time i'll just say it i was cooking myself a bit but i remember this one day i was like i just 0.85

00:29:57.980 want a goddamn like sandwich i just want like a good sandwich and i was craving i was i want

00:30:04.780 melted and i went into this pub or something and i got it was like a pastrami it was described as 0.97

00:30:10.360 like a pastrami melt or something and it came i was starving cold bread with just cheese unmelted

00:30:16.220 just cheese floating slammed down on a non-hot piece of bread with 16 inch thick meat it was

00:30:24.920 and i i actually it was a thing where i was so hungry and depressed that you ate it that i

00:30:30.580 couldn't eat it oh one of those i just paid and left it was like i was like no i can't do it it

00:30:38.780 was gonna put set me over the edge anyway i i've never been yeah i'm trying to think of the worst

00:30:44.720 sandwich i've ever had i did have what was the thing i had that was so amazing there i think it

00:30:50.260 was like the best raspberries of my life or something at the farmer's market i got yeah

00:30:53.320 there was some there was something that offset it i was like oh right the one unexpected thing

00:30:58.380 the one like but jesus yeah well there are certain things um it was really hard it was really hard

00:31:05.340 god the depletion kate what no just the depletion i'm staring around it i mean you might the table

00:31:13.620 that i'm living on right now is astonishing it is what do i see i see my fish oil haven't haven't

00:31:20.460 brought myself to the task i still haven't taken it um what else do i have i have some pens i woke

00:31:27.700 up and i went it's like meditation now meditation now oh i did a little kundalini yoga this morning

00:31:33.800 i have to start again i was in the social media relapse i have been scrolling up a storm and it's

00:31:42.580 been hell it's been hell just the day gone evaporated it's just I got it I got it oh you

00:31:52.540 know what I read somewhere that something like this it was something like part of the problem

00:32:00.220 with staring at our phones or one of the problems is that you're slackening you're not using

00:32:06.560 peripheral vision okay you're staring at a tiny space right yeah and i think the implication was

00:32:14.340 that that's also what you do you focus on one little spot you know when you are here it comes

00:32:19.840 primal uh you know caveman whatever when you're like hunting no you've said this before you said

00:32:26.020 this before i brought this up yeah i thought i learned this two days ago oh embarrassing no i

00:32:30.580 remember this that it takes your system into like emergency like yeah so the cortisol is flying

00:32:36.760 through the blood sugar i don't know wildly god that woman told me you know you know you gotta

00:32:44.200 rely rely on mother earth you gotta you know the whole thing you know the feet what woman what do

00:32:48.640 you mean sorry the woman that i got the secondary massage from who was lovely and i did have a

00:32:52.580 moment of extreme deja vu she told you you have to rely on mother earth yeah you know like we're

00:32:58.380 all up in our head. It's, it's, it's the, you know, it's sort of the generic, but also accurate

00:33:04.640 fact of, of our existence. Like what any like energy practitioner, you know what I mean? It's

00:33:10.520 like, it's like, there's very few people, everyone's, no one's grounded, blah, blah, blah.

00:33:17.040 Okay. And I'm like, and I'm just like, yeah, I know. I'm like, yeah, I know the, the massage

00:33:26.300 person like i'm like yeah they've been telling me that for 15 years we know i just don't don't i

00:33:34.400 guess i don't know what what what it really i mean i can put my i do like to step outside put my feet

00:33:39.300 on the ground that's good something for grounding what do i really what am i really doing you know

00:33:47.020 feel the earth beneath your feet let the earth carry you said my yoga this morning you know

00:33:53.600 i get depressed because it's been so hot sorry it's just shoulder stand they're like

00:34:01.280 as atlas held the world on his shoulders now let the world hold you as you're trembling in

00:34:08.180 shoulder stand it's been so hot in los angeles i imagine it's been so hot that i it's too hot

00:34:14.600 to walk and that's the thing of like the depression of the horror of climate catastrophes it's like

00:34:21.160 oh right like also my mom told me the most depressing thing my mom every summer my entire

00:34:26.740 life gets these incredible dahlias she's a friend who's this like competitive dahlia grower no he's

00:34:34.240 like a competitive like it's unbelievable and he every single july and i associate with my birthday

00:34:40.060 like comes over with these like raging buckets of dahlias that are the size of children they're

00:34:46.160 huge and they're so beautiful and psycho and the colors are insane and it's like this beautiful

00:34:51.080 thing for me that always signals summer and he oh no I forgot I forgot this was starting as a

00:34:58.360 depressing story like the buckets yeah have been like less vibrant this year he came over and he

00:35:04.840 was like yeah it's just like it's done like these are like no this guy knows and you know just the

00:35:12.660 dahlias they're not in this this casualty of just flowers you know like oh right even just in my

00:35:19.500 lifetime seeing that the diminishment of these of these flowers is so dark and then I was thinking

00:35:26.640 about it's just so it's going to be so unlivably hot as we know it already is and I can't and so

00:35:33.080 I'm like oh I would love to go on a walk like well I can't go on a walk it's it's it's an oven

00:35:37.740 out there so that's part of what yeah anyway i have a fun one okay we talk about food here and

00:35:48.620 you know for me it's just sort of all been brought down to delivery the other element

00:35:55.240 has been the search for a decent margarita oh okay i haven't had a decent margarita well this

00:36:03.200 is drawing upon my citrus issue, the lack of acid in the food mirror. I mean, in a, not mirror the

00:36:08.140 opposite in, uh, I've, I've been in three cities. Okay. I've been in three cities in the last couple

00:36:15.940 of weeks and I'm trying to think if, um, Montreal, you know, Brooklyn or, you know, sorry, I call it

00:36:24.040 New York city still. You couldn't get, you couldn't get a margarita in New York city.

00:36:28.020 well no that's the thing I just I wasn't I'm trying to think where if if at all because I

00:36:33.680 wasn't in restaurants so there was no ordering of a margarita it didn't even happen this is a 0.69

00:36:37.640 this is bullshit okay but the point is I've been trying since I've been here and um I don't know 0.96

00:36:45.000 how to say not sweet and have it be heard oh I don't know how to uh you know do I scream and 0.97

00:36:55.560 then the other thing lime juice i i need to understand they don't have it no they don't

00:37:02.840 have it and it's a brexit obviously they don't have it right they've never had it now they have

00:37:05.980 that weird no no it's a brexit thing too because i remember when i was there i couldn't find a

00:37:11.440 fucking lemon i was going around to stores going lemons and they were like oh yeah we had one three 0.58

00:37:17.020 days ago it was like this crazy because they're getting them from italy or whatever and it's it's 0.99

00:37:21.020 It was crazy.

00:37:22.880 Well, I asked for, you know, I did one of my things where, where, you know, I'm really,

00:37:26.540 I'm like at this random, random.

00:37:30.420 Okay.

00:37:30.900 Sorry.

00:37:38.120 I pop into a pub in the early afternoon.

00:37:40.580 Okay.

00:37:41.020 Whatever.

00:37:41.600 I, I, and I think, all right.

00:37:44.860 And I say, I'm going to put my own drink together because it's, it's safer that way.

00:37:49.640 Tequila.

00:37:50.040 Yes, of course.

00:37:51.020 lime soda that'll that'll be fine and i go now if possible just could i just get a like a lot of

00:37:58.100 lime like a bunch of like i'm like i'm obscene i'm not a lot okay and i throw in enough laughs

00:38:03.000 like to make it clear that like if if they can't do it it's fucking fine but i've stated what i do 0.93

00:38:08.680 truly desire how does that turn into one sliver of lime i ask i walk away squeeze it to hell i 0.74

00:38:17.740 squeeze it to hell and that's it now two nights ago i go to a place that has an outdoor seating 0.58

00:38:23.520 area so i'm going so i'm going all right all right i have a little bit of a experience here 0.84

00:38:27.660 i order a margarita i say not too sweet it's pretty good it's pretty good still sweeter than

00:38:33.640 i'd like but i've been so offended that and you have salt on the rim i'll take it yes okay she

00:38:41.600 explains that the other bartender makes it with one shot tequila but she makes it with two and 0.66

00:38:47.300 that's why hers are better. And I go, yeah, yeah. Okay. And that's what makes it, you know, tart

00:38:53.020 or not tart, but whatever. Yeah. Next night I go back. It's a different bartender. I'm worried.

00:38:59.760 Okay. Yeah. So I go, can I get a, um, a margarita? You do like a double with the, uh, like the,

00:39:07.700 with the two shots, trying to anticipate what the previous night's bartender has suggested.

00:39:12.700 yeah and then i get the biggest lecture you know about how i'm making no sense and and he was

00:39:21.040 actually like ultimately fairly charming okay he pulled it around it wasn't as hostile as it seemed

00:39:25.420 it was kind of just his bit but it was this whole thing about a margarita contains certain

00:39:29.640 ingredients certain ingredients okay and that is two shots of tequila you know blah blah blah

00:39:35.160 okay and and so he goes you asked me for a double of that and that's four shots of uh tequila which

00:39:42.420 is illegal to sell in Scotland. Okay. So I go, okay. I go, let me, let me just pull this back.

00:39:49.520 Let me, I was like, let me just pull it back for you. I was like, last night we were here

00:39:52.220 and I wasn't going to sell out. I wasn't going to sell out your friend, you know, in that way.

00:39:56.120 Last night we were here, you know, the bartender said, we usually make it, uh, you know, usually

00:40:01.400 we make it with one shot around here. I like to make it with two. Okay. So I go, I was trying to

00:40:06.660 anticipate for that yeah he goes I taught her everything she knows oh my god this guy

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00:44:24.760 a margarita is is the best thing we have one of the best things we have to enjoy in life so at

00:44:37.560 home i've been drinking i'm getting limes at the supermarket and i've been most nights you got to

00:44:42.740 ream your own lime juice i use basically half a lime or a full lime basically squeeze squeeze

00:44:48.560 squeeze fill fill as much it's like so I drink lime juice shot of tequila I want a full lime

00:44:56.580 ideally I would have a full lime yeah squeeze it's been a full line I mean I I'm yeah and

00:45:02.260 throw the tequila in have you ever done this tried to do salt after the fact after it's already in

00:45:08.880 the glass I did it I used my thumbs and and I moved it around the edge imagine if you brought

00:45:16.040 your own lime and reamer to a bar imagining like because they have a knife back there go hey do you

00:45:22.820 have a knife they probably won't give it to you yeah no they won't give it to you i mean okay so

00:45:27.560 you bring a swiss army knife you do it at the table slice open your own lime i remember i thought

00:45:32.140 i was so cool i'm in the backpack swiss army knife it doesn't have to be a show you don't

00:45:36.920 need a reamer it's not about a show right no it's not about look at me right it's actually

00:45:41.560 something you do okay you don't bring the reamer oh you said i'm gonna bring in reamer i thought

00:45:46.300 you said i don't need a reamer no i was imagining bringing the reamer to the bar but then it becomes

00:45:50.760 a show exactly then the whole then the whole town gathers yeah and then is that you know what was

00:45:56.680 the margarita about for you in the first place you know where i really enjoyed a margarita via

00:46:04.280 goddamn corona i'll say it you know and i appreciated that despite it being a what is it

00:46:08.900 a southern italian restaurant is that their their kind their their style of cooking you know they 0.93

00:46:13.240 they i use i i've talked about this i'm sure but just i originally ordered the margarita with kind

00:46:17.240 of a shame like i know this is crazy but can i actually actually have a margarita and just

00:46:24.280 perfection oh oh oh by the way i have huge huge news i don't know if i said it to you that would

00:46:32.580 be amusing perhaps for the for for a listener to know you know i was thinking about it while i did

00:46:38.260 enjoy drinking the lychee martinis for the sense of community between you you two and you know you

00:46:43.080 and yeah never order it again wow so you came here to play i see and to hurt

00:46:54.500 no okay no i thought it was interesting i know it's been a bit of a dull episode and now

00:47:02.700 in the final hour and how we really get into it yeah so i was thinking about it later because

00:47:08.880 there's i'm not saying that their lychee martini is not the best i've ever had and let's all

00:47:15.200 remember i ordered a second one okay oh that's right you did okay so so you know it's it's not

00:47:21.240 like i wasn't enjoying it no when it comes down to it it's not my cocktail okay that's fine

00:47:28.020 I cannot believe last night I saw I saw someone at the bar drinking the espresso martini and I go

00:47:33.560 it's real it's out there oh it's real they're however guess what they didn't finish them

00:47:37.420 at all I mean they didn't like the taste oh no try one and try two what well you and me are both

00:47:45.800 um under like a fair amount of stress at the moment which is interesting I know I know we

00:47:52.780 both have you know show business stress yeah and uh and this is when you say to yourself well I

00:48:02.260 didn't I institute the tools earlier yeah where would be habit yeah I woke up going meditation

00:48:09.180 now I woke up also just now I was like I'm so hungry right now I need to just force myself to

00:48:16.340 eat like I need to be someone who wakes up and I have like a can of sardines do you know what I

00:48:21.160 mean like i think the blood sugar thing for me is real and i've ignored it for so long yeah when

00:48:27.260 will i learn when i come when i come back when i'm back in la after touring the show i'm like i'm

00:48:33.540 going to go to a functional doctor get my blood work get it all figured out the fantasy of falls

00:48:39.520 blood work the fantasy yeah blood work in the fall just floating above the earth by christmas

00:48:47.360 winter at this point make no mistake obviously i'm not drinking lemon drink

00:48:52.160 yeah i was thinking about making one of those this morning the lemon really a lot rests on

00:48:59.640 the lemon because i got these hard i got a couple hard bullshit lemons that just weren't and then

00:49:06.180 the lemon drink really suffered from it how are you cleaning your lemon if at all uh oh so i mean 0.80

00:49:12.240 they're organic organic but you need to do more but nonetheless right i know i've just been doing

00:49:19.060 water just kind of scrubbing it with my hands and then it you know the outside of lemon feels kind

00:49:24.200 of waxy and you just go like you're kind of like you feel it sort of the water sort of doing nothing

00:49:29.220 right i know i know well i've i think what you're supposed to do maybe is like do you know ideally

00:49:35.120 you would do a baking soda a little baking soda and water let them like soak in there a little

00:49:39.740 salt like i think that would be the most efficient my goodness way to break down whatever's on the

00:49:45.760 baking soda or what about this no what about um i feel like the answer answer would be apple cider

00:49:49.860 vinegar or vinegar like as your cleansing element can't you see that right i can see that scrub

00:49:57.800 scrub scrub just scrubbing lemons god we're both so depleted no we are both no it's in the air i

00:50:07.080 I mean, it's not in the air, it just is in the room.

00:50:09.920 The listeners shall suffer.

00:50:11.200 The listeners shall suffer because we are both depleted.

00:50:14.800 We are both stressed.

00:50:15.840 We are both, it's affecting the product and that's a heartbreak. 0.99

00:50:19.940 That's a, boy, is it hard to acknowledge if a product suffers on your goddamn shelf. 0.98

00:50:29.100 You know, I mean, like on the shelf upon which you sell. 0.99

00:50:31.940 Yeah.

00:50:32.440 Okay.

00:50:33.000 To have to acknowledge, I mean, people do almost anything to avoid it.

00:50:37.080 That's why I go seeking, going, well, what benefit is there in our diminishment at the

00:50:42.700 moment?

00:50:43.440 Well, I know one.

00:50:45.300 What?

00:50:45.840 A gasp of recognition.

00:50:47.640 What?

00:50:48.260 Well, and this was an argument I would make in my depression book occasionally about kind

00:50:52.080 of utilizing elements of it, which are you don't have the energy sometimes to do some

00:50:58.020 of the dancing that you might normally do that you don't actually have to do.

00:51:01.760 So yesterday I was sitting on the street, the flyers for my show.

00:51:07.680 I mean, it's funny.

00:51:08.600 We haven't even discussed it, but, like, I'm back in the flyering business.

00:51:12.560 Just.

00:51:13.820 Papering the town.

00:51:14.700 Just selling, selling, selling.

00:51:16.660 Yeah, and you can't leave them anywhere.

00:51:17.980 You get fined.

00:51:18.840 It's one of the rackets.

00:51:19.800 Anyway, so.

00:51:20.520 Really?

00:51:20.960 It just feels very ancient, theatrical, you know, gather round, you know, kind of feeling.

00:51:26.560 Yeah, yeah.

00:51:27.240 but but this very drunk young man sort of starts engaging me in conversation and

00:51:33.600 he asked something uh and he and then I just go I let there be just a silence while I stared at him

00:51:42.300 scram yeah yeah yeah yeah scram yeah it was like it was like and I just was like

00:51:48.100 I did I said something just like I'm not doing this kind of like that was the energy like I'm

00:51:53.880 not answering inside of your conversation yeah and so and then and then he just goes like oh i'm

00:52:00.740 so sorry like that sounds sarcastic but it was real and i felt so bad for him because he like 0.98

00:52:05.220 realized and that's when of course goddamn you know me yeah a little someone called goddamn me 0.79

00:52:14.480 yeah you know says i'm sorry i'm just diminished and then he took that as another in 0.96

00:52:19.900 to start shattering again and then i just had to leave yeah yeah when you when you're a little

00:52:27.280 depleted and the song and dance isn't cutting it like there is something and again i like this 0.92

00:52:33.900 sounds like oh god i sound like a fucking instagram like psychology infographic nightmare 0.84

00:52:38.900 but it's the thing of like saying no is the only way to say yes to the life you want you know it's 1.00

00:52:45.660 it's like I know it's like oh no no no here's one that here's one that fucking sucks cock okay 0.99

00:52:52.160 because it's true or because it's a cliche and you're about to serve it yeah oh no no no I just 1.00

00:52:57.540 I heard this once and then I remember I once said this to a friend and he like god bless him was like

00:53:02.040 ill and I was like you're right I think I used to say this on Poog once but because it because 0.98

00:53:06.400 I don't know how I feel about it if it's not a hell yeah it's a fuck now 0.99

00:53:11.380 i mean i mean 0.98

00:53:17.740 it's not true for well right because because life is not that right that would mean you only

00:53:28.200 eat candy and to me that fuels and yes and also that fuels to me like deep illness like mental

00:53:34.880 illness because like like the only thing that gets me through life is acknowledging that

00:53:40.240 everything is ruled by ambiguity and paradox yes and that there's never an answer and certainty

00:53:45.300 shall not be achieved like that is the poison that my drug is certainty and so it's like i cannot go

00:53:50.900 near anything that points to that and so well no so that it's i mean to me like you know these

00:53:56.760 questions of following um you know what does your gut say and it literally is saying two things

00:54:02.200 simultaneously it always is the gut thing though i can't trust your gut trust your gut is like

00:54:07.300 i'm like well it's fear and anxiety i mean that's that's the thing it's like

00:54:12.500 well my gut is communicating absolute sheer terror yeah

00:54:17.060 all right depleted poog

00:54:20.540 all right okay what look poog poog we ended poog today i think okay poog ended this was the last

00:54:30.520 episode yeah okay and it just you know goes out with a whimper right no no the support has meant

00:54:38.760 more to me than you'll ever know to all the hags it means it's not it's not an ending it's a

00:54:44.100 commencement they don't call this commencement for no reason commencement actually means beginning

00:54:51.820 and yeah so so i think i think um i don't know what this episode is maybe maybe this episode

00:54:59.080 there's a silence between the notes and yet we still keep talking i just stared out and i just

00:55:03.840 was staring and i had like a full full fantasy imagery of being attacked by a dog and it was so

00:55:10.660 like i just like went somewhere really of course i'm like oh no what's that channeling am i about

00:55:14.880 to be attacked by a dog yeah you no it's never that have you ever had a psychic experience of

00:55:20.100 that nature yeah i remember you said this about no of that nature event no dangerous event to

00:55:26.360 yourself then happens no i haven't i haven't i haven't thank you i haven't i'm staring at a man

00:55:32.340 who appears to be talking to some some flowers and yet i've realized he's talking to someone

00:55:37.040 over the flowers life continues even outside of the recording session somehow somehow it will

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