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00:02:35.460 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:36.940 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:02:38.020 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

00:02:42.800 Two untamable intellects.

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00:02:49.760 Today's topic, loosely speaking, sleep talk.

00:02:53.020 Wimper. Cheek squats.

00:03:01.100 There she is. 1.00

00:03:03.200 Hey.

00:03:04.880 The other day, or yesterday, I said, if I'm not premenstrual, then I have a major personality

00:03:11.040 problem.

00:03:12.100 Yeah.

00:03:13.120 You know what I mean?

00:03:13.760 Were you feeling angry or what?

00:03:16.140 Because I rage.

00:03:17.700 Do you rage or?

00:03:18.780 yeah it's yeah it's rage and it's a frustration you know it's it's just oh so I've literally no

00:03:26.620 ability to tolerate frustration well I was I've been thinking since our last poog you saw me have

00:03:33.420 a micro meltdown due to technology and I was whining like a baby and then we texted about

00:03:39.180 it afterwards whimpering whimpering yeah sorry no I actually think whimpering is is less I wasn't

00:03:45.640 trying to you know i was whimpering whatever no it's interesting because it was actually like

00:03:51.440 i'm not saying i don't make sounds like that like like or do the equivalent like

00:03:55.740 really frustrated let's say like i don't know i may like point my toes hard like yeah you know

00:04:02.480 i'm talking about like it's like like really frustrated and the legs go straight straight 0.76

00:04:07.700 like shit like that and you were like you were like like no you were like you were like 0.52

00:04:14.460 no no i don't have it because that sounds like like a cry it was exactly the sound 0.98

00:04:23.900 that but then it was yes that but then of these particular tenor of when like a toddler

00:04:29.860 is like i'm gonna start making a sound that's i'm gonna make it louder and louder and louder

00:04:34.240 horrible until you people come over and help right like like i know you really caught me in that um

00:04:42.800 it was well the the privilege of course i mean to to be relaxed among those to be so intimate

00:04:50.020 as to wine i know to to just i mean pure emotional you know nakedness i mean what

00:04:59.280 is the emotion that i know embarrassed i'm trying to think like in actuality and is there one maybe

00:05:05.640 there's not like you know grief totally like who you know I think it's like it's all good like I

00:05:13.660 mean maybe oh I guess anger right like legitimate right right right to in front of people oh no I

00:05:19.960 guess that's because no I think it's almost helplessness to me it's what I showed you

00:05:25.480 that kind of like base adolescent again not even adolescent like toddler level

00:05:32.060 it was so rude of me but i was completely powerless no no i think that was premenstrual

00:05:39.620 i just didn't see it as rude at all i didn't see it as rude i just want to be absolutely

00:05:44.040 hold on the romance of this the kettle it's this little uh well it's a little fun little

00:05:48.520 soundscape oh there she is no the drama of the whistle uh i nearly brought myself to use a what

00:05:55.960 are they called mocha coffee things the stovetop thing that oh the espresso the the uh yeah the

00:06:04.320 little stovetop thing oh my god i'm forgetting what it's called my god i love those things

00:06:08.740 it's not called a mocha i think it's called a mocha m-o-k-a i don't think of it as that the

00:06:14.000 little you're talking about the little jeez is gonna kill me and i could simply google it 0.84

00:06:18.760 the silver lady in a dress yeah yeah the gorgeous woman on this sits on the stove and screams 1.00

00:06:25.060 yeah screams with her angular uh you know she's got a waist but don't worry it doesn't have a 1.00

00:06:31.960 curve to it everyone can be go to sleep safe tonight woman's angular 1.00

00:06:37.340 look at me caught drinking drinking water for once wow let me just see something here

00:06:44.440 i was excited to tell you a few things oh i've i've also finally done it oh but i didn't bring

00:06:48.940 myself to make mocha but i did watch a single video about how to do it and there's a lie that

00:06:53.460 i just want to say for anyone out there doing it was just that you know let letting the coffee

00:06:56.740 remain in there it adds to the flavor ew basically like not cleaning it it's wrong it's not true

00:07:03.140 that's why people say that coffee doesn't taste good because of the the remnants because people

00:07:09.580 believe that letting the remnants stay in there and just sort of calcify for years yeah yes i'm

00:07:16.520 accepting because you i know that you know sorry i'm distracted because i'm a wondering do i have

00:07:22.560 COVID my shows are done so I'm like I did it I got to the run without getting COVID without getting

00:07:27.940 sick so and there is the thing I this is what people tell you right oh so after any kind of a

00:07:34.740 big project big thing people often get sick instantly right so like I yeah I truly just

00:07:40.960 your body was holding it down the day before yesterday yeah and then it's interesting when

00:07:44.600 psychosomatic illness presents itself like okay my last day of shows I was in the afternoon about

00:07:50.540 to do a matinee and I out of nowhere got just so dizzy like right sorry I'm laughing like uh like

00:07:58.820 just like please laugh but I was like oh and then I was in I was mid-performance and I was thinking

00:08:06.100 to myself well I was like permanent neurological damage I was like I'll never be as sharp as I was

00:08:12.280 I was in the middle of the of the show thinking to myself do too well it's good I got this run

00:08:17.180 because I'll never be like this again.

00:08:18.860 I convinced myself it was COVID

00:08:20.460 and that I would have like devastating long haul

00:08:23.460 mental like brain fog.

00:08:25.460 Oh, that's all, okay.

00:08:27.080 Yeah, I was like, oh, I'm dizzy.

00:08:28.580 I was like, I don't feel well.

00:08:30.180 Yeah, I was just convinced.

00:08:32.040 Yeah, it's interesting.

00:08:34.800 Yeah, I'm going to prepare a non-caffeinated tea.

00:08:39.860 God, I wish I could get excited

00:08:41.360 about drinking non-caffeinated beverages.

00:08:44.100 It's so challenging, even though I know, I know.

00:08:47.180 I know the benefits.

00:08:48.080 No, the only reason why I want it is due to the throat, due to the throat being sore.

00:08:56.100 Yeah, but let it rip.

00:08:57.800 You changed my life when you said, and I want to just say this because I feel like it could help someone else.

00:09:03.420 Yes.

00:09:03.660 And you were like talking about being sick and you were like, isn't it the best?

00:09:07.540 You were like talking about, like when you're not like suffering wildly, but when you're just kind of like.

00:09:12.840 Oh, minor illness?

00:09:14.160 Yeah, yeah.

00:09:14.960 Gentle, gentle.

00:09:17.180 gentle body will clear it yeah illness is um i would feel very specific uh uh you know i mean

00:09:25.980 or i guess i would say like something like some anything you know is going to heal yes that yeah

00:09:30.960 gives you the feeling liberated well the other piece of it that i say is like i think it's

00:09:37.080 important to like at least for me to vocalize that feeling so that i don't manifest illness in

00:09:47.760 order to like quietly and without admitting it enjoy a day on the couch yeah so like yeah i'm

00:09:54.320 fully conscious of it like i go like i i am enjoying the fact that that thing i don't have

00:10:00.080 to do now and like make that as conscious as possible otherwise like i'll literally be the

00:10:05.840 neurotic like Jungian or Freudian like like case study yeah you know like her feet have gone numb

00:10:14.300 because she doesn't have the courage to say she doesn't want to go to dinner you know oh my god

00:10:20.500 that's amazing well I mean and I say this I say this with love but my my paternal grandmother

00:10:28.280 was I guess maybe full pathological neurotic hypochondria no no I'm sure I've told you this

00:10:38.460 that she um was using a wheelchair even though she was didn't she could walk that's astonishing

00:10:45.560 and this is one of this is one of the foundational texts of my family yes and that I feel so directly

00:10:51.700 connected to is that she was like, I can't walk. She was in an airport with my uncle and they were,

00:10:59.400 he was pushing her to the gate. They were late. And on the overhead, they start to announce

00:11:04.240 Berlant, you know, gates are closing. The woman gets up out of the wheelchair and starts running

00:11:09.380 to the gate. No. It's one of the most. See, that's you. That's me. See, that's you. No, I know. 1.00

00:11:16.360 And the piece that's you, okay, is the audacity to not keep up the lie.

00:11:23.680 Okay. 0.99

00:11:24.460 The goddamn audacity, okay, to go, I'm not missing that flight. 0.99

00:11:27.940 Exactly. 1.00

00:11:29.400 There's something very like Jewish about it too. 0.98

00:11:31.840 Like missing a flight, like never. 1.00

00:11:34.640 Like allowing like a decadal grift to just immediately crumble due to the idea of missing a flight.

00:11:43.320 you know speaking of decade-old grift um i was worrying that the food listener like that i haven't

00:11:51.200 made it clear enough what a foundational text the movie the prestige is by christopher nolan

00:11:55.980 okay but i haven't made it clear in the context of this podcast the prestige oh i've never seen 0.71

00:12:02.180 it but the magicians it's time gate it's time oh fabulous fucking time i can't wait to discuss it

00:12:08.280 it's it's kind of one that there are those of us who know about it love it and then there's 0.81

00:12:15.040 the rest yeah there's just sort of i don't know it slipped by um but anyway i was thinking about

00:12:21.820 that and then yeah okay big news i've finally done it i got myself a bathing suit um that

00:12:31.680 is two strips okay bottom like a normal yeah you know yeah and then imagine two two fleet

00:12:41.880 two bunny ears i've seen them in film yeah exactly tie it around the neck very italian

00:12:48.900 they go vertical and straight and i got it in this little italian sort of shop that that i just

00:12:55.280 sort of passed and it said something like you know 20 euros in the in the window i said i'm

00:13:00.460 listening okay and I went in and they like and I just knew they would know it was like it was like

00:13:06.260 half tailor shop like half shop shop and there was so nice sitting there and there were all these

00:13:11.380 bathing suits and I could tell that that like I don't know it was very very exciting and I just

00:13:16.400 I I did a thing where I opened my coat shook my body around essentially saying you tell me what

00:13:23.140 size I am oh right right totally you find me the suit liberating did that confidence just like him

00:13:29.320 like this is your size oh wait did I tell you about at an Italian meal I feel like I may have

00:13:34.620 but the the I had an experience where I was ordering for me and Chris and order a series

00:13:44.020 of things and I'm very excited because I'm in Italy and you know obviously want to try everything

00:13:48.720 and so I I tend to after I've basically finished my order say like you know is that enough yeah

00:13:58.800 okay or i start to go like anything else or should we maybe add a contorni do everything

00:14:02.920 and this this waiter goes this older man he just i was like i was like maybe um uh okay we got the

00:14:11.960 two pastas we got the fish we got the like i'm like uh maybe like clearly like looking for

00:14:16.280 something more he goes it's enough no no you're joking okay in his italian accent he was like

00:14:22.520 it's enough it's enough okay unbelievable never in america would someone say that i felt

00:14:28.900 a relief and yet and yet i felt none of the offense that i felt when i was sitting uh in a

00:14:36.560 hotel lobby with tour manager emma and uh finished a crudite vegetables i i mind you

00:14:43.920 and a waiter comes over and does a big um where are they like where could they be because they're

00:14:52.280 i'd finished what yes looked under the table um well going that's a going hard that's a huge

00:15:03.040 that's probably been in his act for years yeah yeah it's got to be right that's in the rotation

00:15:09.960 yeah i mean and just and who has that worked who has that been a hit for and you know it's so sad

00:15:15.660 negative feedback well positive feedback mechanism which is the the the ingrained shame

00:15:21.720 around being a speed leader leads me to immediately what cackle oh right and be like I know I know

00:15:30.340 said the funniest thing here I've had a couple moments where I've been like you know I'm American

00:15:38.980 you know like yeah yeah these moments where I point at myself and and whatever but there was

00:15:44.580 a strange piece in him just saying it's enough because it wasn't loaded and it wasn't about me

00:15:49.240 okay it was about it was about the meal it was about this is this is good and another thing i

00:15:56.220 like to go should i add a side maybe this this whatever and there's another like guy who by the

00:16:02.560 way didn't just seem to be a waiter he seemed to be the absolute you know center of a restaurant

00:16:07.100 so like i like i don't like somehow not the chef but like surely it's his son or something yeah

00:16:12.700 someone who's trained very carefully he's like he's like you can always order a side after at

00:16:19.280 any time come out in five minutes oh wow come on five love it and i saw another couple doing this

00:16:25.160 in italy i saw them just ask for a camera of the name of it now it's a vegetable and it comes and

00:16:29.880 it looks like pasta but it's not um and that went for me it was something well here's my question

00:16:38.240 was it enough yes was it enough yeah okay not only was it enough we got towards the end and

00:16:46.540 because they'd already kind of balked a little the guy balked a little at at the because i don't

00:16:51.640 know we got these two pastas and then whatever and and it takes a while i think for the american

00:16:59.480 mind to accept that if there's a preemie and a secundi that you're you're not each owed one of

00:17:05.520 those are you're missing something horrible you're like missing something horribly like it's like

00:17:09.460 you know you don't have to get a preemie in addition to an appetizer you don't have to get

00:17:13.860 a pasta before your fish sure but boy is it why the hell wouldn't you i've eaten so much fish

00:17:23.280 fish like fish in pasta yeah it's been a dream

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00:18:32.260 This is Rider Strong,

00:18:33.200 And I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.

00:18:36.380 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.

00:18:41.320 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune.

00:18:45.140 It was hard to wrap your head around.

00:18:46.480 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

00:18:50.120 No, I am not your guru.

00:18:53.900 And back then, I lied to my parents.

00:18:56.520 I lied to police.

00:18:57.780 I lied to everybody.

00:18:58.780 There were years right where I could not say your name.

00:19:01.560 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,

00:19:04.440 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,

00:19:07.260 whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.

00:19:10.600 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods

00:19:13.520 and not the obvious boyfriend?

00:19:15.200 They have had this case for 30 years. 0.98

00:19:18.120 I'll teach you sons of **** to come around here and my wife. 0.97

00:19:21.160 Boom, boom. 0.99

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00:19:32.180 The more you listen to your kids, the closer you'll be.

00:19:36.300 So we asked kids, what do you want your parents to hear?

00:19:40.220 I feel sometimes that I'm not listened to.

00:19:42.540 I would just want you to listen to me more often and evaluate situations with me and lead me towards success.

00:19:49.320 Listening is a form of love.

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00:21:37.720 I really, I feel desperate for a vacation.

00:21:40.780 As you know, the current run of the show is complete.

00:21:44.700 And I do, I've been dreaming of snorkeling.

00:21:47.000 I've been dreaming of returning to the sea.

00:21:49.540 Really interesting.

00:21:52.180 Immediately I try to, yeah.

00:21:53.580 of course i might just be thirsty but you know and i just keep thinking of course the dream is

00:21:59.100 scuba but i don't think i can get involved no i don't think it is my dream because i mean the

00:22:03.900 dream is in being down that deep for that oh sure however however to me scuba it feels like an

00:22:12.440 unnecessary risk that we're not there yet we haven't done it yeah tech's not there people 0.98

00:22:17.940 are still shit's getting fucked up down there with those oxygen tubes oh my god i mean yeah people 0.98

00:22:22.740 i think i i like dwelling near the surface i like the feeling of being able to pop to the top 0.99

00:22:30.240 being down there with the ocean pressing down on you i mean there's just no way of knowing but it's

00:22:38.680 just knowing the lungs could burst is a bit much oh yeah your eyes pop out i don't know i haven't

00:22:46.500 done the research but no i was googling the other day like how deep is the ocean again um by the way

00:22:52.260 how do you read how do you well in certain places yes there's one spot um and that's the deepest

00:22:59.480 it's called like the something or other ridge or something and it's um so cool and i you know

00:23:05.520 if you drop a penny will it go to the bottom confusion do you know what i mean i do know

00:23:12.260 what you mean let's just say i'm hovering a penny over they go this is the top yes this is the

00:23:16.520 surface level yeah i dropped that penny assuming yes of course it doesn't become obstructed by

00:23:21.740 coral a seal something like right a direct you want so will the penny i think it's being carried

00:23:29.280 tumble down oh it's being carried straight down yes i'm such a fool i think the ocean currents

00:23:34.140 are pretty serious it's swirling for an eternity it might swirl for an eternity it might never

00:23:41.420 touch bottom by the way it never will i'm realizing as soon as i said it and then the

00:23:46.080 other question is so then they go they go they go well first of all they they use some kind of

00:23:52.180 metric system which you know as they should i mean the metric system i guess not some kind of metric

00:23:56.660 system and you know i'm immediately confused um but then even when they put it into miles okay

00:24:02.440 it's three miles deep at this one spot has never taken for me i don't really know what a mile is

00:24:07.440 nearly impossible the only way have you spent any time on the track you know running track okay so

00:24:14.220 no but I have my own version which is a okay is there one or was your high school merely

00:24:21.800 no I didn't have a track I don't know each volleyball yeah yeah I didn't have a track

00:24:27.020 so there was a track at my high school and it was a quarter mile long four times around that thing

00:24:33.120 you've done a mile and I think about it all the time I stretch it out I unwind the thing and I

00:24:38.660 go it's four of those and when i go it's four of those you know can seem pretty manageable but

00:24:45.620 anyway so then i go okay three minutes whatever i i've see i've instantly forgotten this is a

00:24:50.700 problem with numbers with quantity i mean we've talked about this but i've instantly forgotten

00:24:54.680 so even if you told me it was miles like i'm trying to picture the depth and i'm literally

00:24:58.920 inverting a car i'm turning it 100 or i'm turning it 90 degrees and sending it down driving

00:25:04.240 I'm trying to see it and I'm immediately seeing something that's like 200 yards like I can't

00:25:09.680 it's very hard to understand the depth well the okay this is um coming almost out of nowhere but

00:25:16.700 somehow feels yes related I know it is the challenger that exploded well yes but what's

00:25:21.760 the one that had the teachers on board yeah right so you know they talk about key memory key memory

00:25:28.360 there's a huge you know there's a thing here which is the belief that people go oh it exploded

00:25:34.120 they died instantly and it's like actually no it seems like they were falling for like

00:25:37.480 an eternity like fully conscious beings in space falling wait what wait wait hold on is this a

00:25:45.900 physics like is this a theoretical physics notion or is this well because how i mean like about

00:25:50.180 no there's like a theory that's like no they didn't just die on impact the thing exploded

00:25:55.740 they were ejected and likely falling for minutes in space oh okay i'm excited which is like

00:26:04.880 you know you go well that's so horrible and it is but it's also like well it's also like

00:26:11.260 you got to see something you got to really fucking got to see something yeah if you're not going 0.87

00:26:15.700 you don't go you know you're not up there going okay i just imagined us okay we're ejected okay 0.95

00:26:22.000 we can't speak to each other the radio is like whatever okay we roll past each other and we make

00:26:26.880 a face that's like like this kind of eye roll and we both know that what we're communicating

00:26:31.760 to each other is like I mean yeah we're dead what a way to go everybody gets to see this what a way

00:26:37.080 to go baby I do think I can literally see your face I could I think I could be okay if I were

00:26:46.080 projected falling through the space if I looked over and saw you falling with me and you were

00:26:52.320 able to share eye contact through the helmets I think that would be like again terrifying and my

00:26:57.720 god but looking down there's got to be a way we got to do some astral projection or something

00:27:03.840 you're floating though yeah oh to extent are you floating yet you're falling I don't know

00:27:09.320 well you're falling in the sense that and this is like something I feel like used to work its way

00:27:14.660 into my literary endeavors like the way that the thing that appears to be like rotating in space is

00:27:21.300 like actually like falling towards earth forever or whatever you know like yeah because it's all

00:27:26.140 rotating it's experience is a rotation but actually it's another one challenges the mind

00:27:31.420 us and oh us well if we astral project we're not using it well it's like us on the sea bobs

00:27:36.460 yeah yes it's a similar thing because the closest yeah being under the surface of the ocean just

00:27:42.240 under the surface and watching you cat you on the back of the sea bob and then us watching each

00:27:47.100 other i mean seeing you okay and then and then the the sort of pride i felt the athletic pride

00:27:56.820 i think we felt showing each other felt so strong we weren't afraid to go zoom zoom again

00:28:01.560 sort of buzzing off buzzing off into the blue i mean i'll never stop talking about i'll never

00:28:08.480 stop talking about it poog always comes back to it and i don't care i think it's i think it's i

00:28:12.160 don't care either and like oh do you remember sorry we'll get back to the theoretical of it

00:28:19.660 but do you remember um how you were like lying in bed like asked me like if um how much i thought

00:28:25.180 the c-bobs were and i was like 250 and you were like no way honey oh yeah you said 250 they're

00:28:30.260 like 13k yeah or something yeah i was like oh i know i thought it was almost like a little

00:28:37.300 like a little buzzsaw or something but yes to be just under the surface of the blue

00:28:43.520 when i go back to la i'm going to explore just to do a hard right turn

00:28:49.220 finally got to get laser hair removal oh okay okay i thought you're gonna say the catalina

00:28:55.120 islands okay well where everywhere well that's the thing i'm like i'm putting out a huge call

00:29:00.600 to the los angeles area yeah laser oh where on the body i don't yeah that's what i meant actually 0.99

00:29:06.240 yeah I didn't realize armpits baby I'm done shaving those things yeah fuck it the legs 0.99

00:29:11.260 meanwhile yeah meanwhile you know I've been enjoying the kind of European my hands above 0.99

00:29:18.240 my my head in that by the way it's like a gold it's like a bronzy gold and black the suit I was

00:29:23.860 describing you'll see it on the feed it'll pass through and disappear won't be saved it's highly

00:29:30.220 too personal very personal but and then and then the sort of unshaven armpit oh sure no i've enjoyed

00:29:37.180 an unshaving pit of course there's a pride of course yeah pubescent pride and i've always been

00:29:42.460 like well do i really want to eliminate the ability to grow it out i'm done i don't care i

00:29:46.220 want to i just right it's yeah but then i was looking up so to get laser hair removal because

00:29:52.000 every time i've gotten anything wax which i've gotten for 4 000 years always you'd be a really

00:29:57.920 good candidate for laser hair because my skin is fair and my hair is dark I'm like I know and so

00:30:02.680 now right but then I was looking up they go oh are you gonna put yourself up for candidacy

00:30:07.220 do you hear I've heard you need a um you need a recommendation you need a hundred signatures

00:30:12.340 so what I'm it's crazy to me is I'm like looking at I'm like so overwhelmed like yeah so you need

00:30:18.660 62 sessions like it takes four it's like such a I'm like wait what how about four and I'm done

00:30:25.280 like truly I have to go for a year right at what point is your life not worth living yeah I'm like

00:30:31.880 well then I'll just keep shaving yeah and um I guess I do it now so in 10 years I'm hairless

00:30:40.320 I don't know I mean I don't want to be completely hairless to be clear yeah but in those those

00:30:44.760 spots I mean I would do it maybe the top of my toe you know I could get rid of this couple hairs

00:30:51.920 there that just i don't know though i feel like i they kind of comfort me and yeah yeah there is

00:30:56.980 something about hair growth means your circulation's pumping yeah there's something nice about hair

00:31:01.800 growth in that way oh well get ready because poog's about to really pop off when i get back 0.96

00:31:05.700 to la because i'm doing i'm going back on a cleanse and instagram cleanse i'm getting off 0.85

00:31:10.260 i haven't my time i'm like i'm going back on that cleanse i'm gonna do um i'm going i haven't when

00:31:18.180 i came to new york a couple months ago i said every day i'm gonna do 15 minutes of floor pilates

00:31:22.620 even just 15 minutes even 10 minutes of stretching right when i tell you i didn't do it once yes

00:31:28.420 and i don't care i actually have zero shame about it like i'm not but but not even once

00:31:33.260 so i'm gonna go back to la and it's gonna be back on i don't want to leave new york comforting

00:31:39.580 yourself i know you hear me doing it i'm like i'm gonna read yourself with certainty i'm gonna get

00:31:44.100 smart i'm i've allowed my intellect to calcify it's devastating oh my god it's always calcification

00:31:49.140 with you you're so funny because it's like you have these things like that like it's like your

00:31:56.080 metaphor for what what it does to you is calcification which which i think it's not

00:32:00.780 entirely like the worst metaphor you know neurons that fire together wire together uh so there is

00:32:06.960 something there but you know maybe the calcification are the lovely bones around which grief uh

00:32:15.660 grows do you remember the lovely bones i read it like it was a stunning uh metaphor oh i've seen

00:32:22.200 two films resurrection and men that's all i'll say oh wow and they're they're they're quite a

00:32:29.680 double feature that's all i'll say i mean i said twice um wait let me oh but i told you i

00:32:37.400 said very excited i really want to force you back to la to hang out with me but we can deal with

00:32:42.840 that i'll be coming okay um oh i have another thing i was thinking that a little time needs

00:32:49.320 to be devoted to i know we've discussed it before i'm sorry but i saw the new top gun you know and

00:32:55.420 and i haven't seen the old one haven't seen the new one doesn't matter okay like i've heard this

00:33:01.680 everyone says it made him feel nostalgia for a film he didn't like nostalgia for a film he like

00:33:07.540 barely saw no every refrain is like you don't see the old one i'm like i know but i want to but yes

00:33:12.960 no no see the old one i mean i mean see the old one but all i'll say is when tom cruise when when

00:33:20.300 tom cruise acts i mean when like i just i go we take him for granted oh yeah we always have when

00:33:31.160 he's gone it'll be too late there will not be another okay okay chris and i sat around

00:33:39.800 as long as we as long as we spent watching top gun we spent trying to think of someone who can

00:33:45.240 grow into being a replacement and it's it's as simple as there never will be one no they don't

00:33:49.680 make them anymore they actually yeah it is it is it is i would are this it's they just don't

00:33:57.920 do that anymore i don't know i mean he is an actor i want to be clear he's not just an action star

00:34:03.160 no he's an actor yeah when he cries like when he does this when he when he's like

00:34:08.620 okay so by the way i stumbled into what an idea jacqueline held her eyeballs i'm trying to do i

00:34:17.020 know I'm trying to describe it for the listener it's also just I also stumbled upon an Owen Wilson

00:34:24.040 impression that might live in me are you ready you heard it no this is not wait it's a Marley

00:34:30.220 and me hold on wait it wasn't just a dog wait wait wait wait sorry I'm stunned on a few levels

00:34:39.100 right now because Marley and me so you were really that you've seen it and that I guess

00:34:45.280 you've seen it more than once because to have to have the impression on ice like that

00:34:50.200 means it's it's been floating in your consciousness well well for one moment let me

00:34:57.200 just start with a single question okay have you not seen it because it's the number one 0.96

00:35:08.180 The most devastating film you'll ever goddamn see. 0.70

00:35:13.700 And you know what's cool? 0.99

00:35:14.680 So I know the dog dies, clearly, right?

00:35:17.460 Just because that's what else would it be?

00:35:19.340 The dog's not going to die?

00:35:20.480 Like, please.

00:35:21.580 So, and guess what?

00:35:24.120 I can still go in, even knowing, that's what's interesting.

00:35:26.560 When you know the puppy dies, but you go in fresh and you still,

00:35:30.340 your emotions are still, they're like spades spinning on someone's fingers.

00:35:36.800 they're just controlling you and you because the human experience okay it doesn't like Romeo and

00:35:43.220 Juliet we know okay we know why are we on the edge of your seat trying to get the message through

00:35:47.780 faster right yeah and it's because it's always because just because we know what happened then

00:35:53.240 it's like we're raging against the way that things can be in this life yeah sometimes the

00:36:00.860 message won't get through sometimes you know what I mean and it's like it's like so every time I

00:36:06.700 watch it it's a reckoning with that with that brutal truth sitting in awe it's really for the 0.96

00:36:12.480 fact that marley doesn't matter marley's an actor you know what i mean fuck doesn't matter i'm just

00:36:20.380 thinking about how the nature yeah this the essential reality of life is that it's there's 0.85

00:36:27.800 something unknowable right yes it's like it was like the essential reality of life is that it's

00:36:34.860 like so inherently strange and mysterious yeah and movies like oh my god you're doing the speech

00:36:44.440 at the beginning of oscars of the oscars where like every year they try to tell us like why

00:36:48.400 movies matter oh yeah they're like okay what about i lost its way home yeah a doctor who can't find

00:36:53.880 his files they're like a woman pleads with her husband to go to what about they're like the

00:36:58.680 pictures sorry sorry like like they're like a picture like they like the colloquialisms of film

00:37:05.440 they're like to tom in the end movies in the end movies and tom cruise hello his 9 11 movie speech 0.80

00:37:11.900 right when there was the oscars the year of 9 11 and he was like cut the shit yeah i'm like 0.56

00:37:20.620 forgetting what it was but it was him at the oscars and he did something he's like i'm not 0.92

00:37:25.360 I'm not here to

00:37:26.420 I'm here to tell you something like

00:37:28.660 we gotta keep going

00:37:30.380 oh my god

00:37:32.180 me too

00:37:33.840 he's like I just want to tell you

00:37:37.240 god I love chills

00:37:38.380 like

00:37:40.120 I don't know but it's worth

00:37:43.460 going back to

00:37:44.220 no I'd like to have the clip pulled

00:37:46.740 and played at the end of the episode

00:37:48.480 no we should do that

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00:41:58.120 this reminds me by the way i so kate knows actually and we could oh this is fun i think

00:42:05.640 we should do it except can we oh no we could do it i'm trying to think what we could play it out

00:42:10.320 of that would okay well tell tell them to hear it well we could just play it we could just play it

00:42:15.320 after we get at it after yeah let's add it after that's fun but i sent this to kate and here we go

00:42:20.100 so explain what it is obviously you're about to i'm sorry i've started trying to record my sleep

00:42:25.180 because I wake up screaming.

00:42:26.120 And just to remind the listener

00:42:27.340 or those who don't know,

00:42:28.640 when Jacqueline and I had our incredible few days together

00:42:31.700 in Turks and Caicos, sharing a bed, sleep over heaven,

00:42:34.180 think about it constantly,

00:42:35.200 I want to go back desperately.

00:42:36.680 And I would wake up next to Jacqueline.

00:42:39.520 I would wake up every morning to, 1.00

00:42:41.020 shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:42:42.200 And it would be Jacqueline full-throated 1.00

00:42:44.180 yelling in her sleep. 0.99

00:42:46.600 It's always anger.

00:42:47.900 With anger.

00:42:49.480 It's always anger.

00:42:50.260 Okay, so that's the pretext here.

00:42:52.060 Go ahead.

00:42:52.380 so so uh oh and it reminds me i've had a couple dreams with you that i had one where they were

00:42:58.020 like well whatever i gotta stand on task i dreamt that somebody was mocking my work

00:43:05.820 okay by hanging in a gallery it was like i was in a very like like hip and cool setting and i see

00:43:13.760 that there's art on the wall and one of the pieces of art is a massive is a big uh sort of piece of

00:43:19.700 wood as a canvas that's been burned imagery has been burned into it and I realized that it's

00:43:23.980 referencing my comedy show get on your knees okay and I realized that it's like saying something 0.94

00:43:30.500 like I think it's funny or like blowjobs or something okay okay it's like whatever it's 0.95

00:43:36.020 this thing and then what it says is like what the thing it says is basically like I don't understand

00:43:41.120 like what anyone likes about it or whatever like I don't think it's very good none of the thinking

00:43:46.360 goes even a little bit beyond undergrad oh shit yeah that's hard okay and which by the way like 0.81

00:43:55.660 is not the requirement it's just rude yeah yeah like like you know what i mean so so so i'm i'm 0.89

00:44:02.300 quite mad and i try to one what we have on tape is me reiterating because i said it once but there

00:44:10.820 was loud music playing and so i had to say it again in my dream okay said it once so we have

00:44:15.140 me saying i said and then the following i said there was loud music in the dream so you were

00:44:25.420 yelling over music so i had to repeat it yeah that's crazy yeah so i go so what we have on

00:44:31.200 tape is just for those who can't make it out it's it's um i said finally

00:44:38.180 finally some i said finally someone outside of myself articulates how i feel about my own work

00:44:46.580 wait okay we have to go back wait a minute this is so unbelievable so you have an app that records

00:45:00.120 explain the app yes all right so so there's a number of them and they're you know changing

00:45:05.220 the nation okay and um i downloaded the one that had the most you know reviews and when it hears a

00:45:12.100 sound it starts recording so it gets your snores your ghosts yeah your ghosts they have a little

00:45:18.020 icon that says ghost for like when they don't know what it is um oh you know whatever the whatever

00:45:23.120 the fuck else and and sleep talk okay and so i listen in the morning and it's like whatever

00:45:29.940 not much of interest but there have been a couple and um now I've forgotten because they live in 0.92

00:45:36.380 that other part of my brain but there's more and I'm gonna gather them but but yeah it was like in

00:45:43.920 I felt that it was a really strong and me-ish retort finally someone outside myself articulate

00:45:50.240 how I feel about my own work like isn't that like genteel like isn't that like it's I'm wearing a

00:45:56.760 hat and a mark twain or something i don't know like it's like it's like a dream instead of like

00:46:01.200 and it looks still managing to insult myself you know but like at least i'm doing it first yeah

00:46:05.640 yeah completely it's very eminem eight mile um never caught it eight mile oh you'd love it

00:46:14.760 he is an incredible actor eminem yes um i say that not knowing not never having seen him on film

00:46:22.740 seen a single frame but I can just feel it um oh yeah wait oh also just really quickly sorry you

00:46:29.600 were gonna pivot I was gonna pivot to skincare but I also wanted to say because you're talking

00:46:32.640 about an app related to sleep yesterday I was so tired I was like I need you know you know I was

00:46:38.040 so tired I was like I need to take a nap but I was so tired I couldn't I go where's the Andrew

00:46:42.100 Johnson I know we've talked about him on poop yes yes I go where's the power nap I start playing it

00:46:47.580 Right.

00:46:48.060 I go, there's no way this is going to work on me.

00:46:50.000 I'm just like, I'm too.

00:46:52.440 When I tell you I was out cold and waking up to this hypnotism, three, two, one, snaps.

00:46:57.820 I mean, like, yes, completely.

00:47:00.000 Yes.

00:47:00.400 Under the spell. 0.99

00:47:01.000 I was like, fucking unreal. 1.00

00:47:03.560 Damn, Andrew Johnson. 1.00

00:47:04.900 Damn it. 1.00

00:47:05.500 He's unbelievable. 1.00

00:47:06.280 He's so good.

00:47:06.880 My name is Andrew Johnson.

00:47:09.420 Yeah.

00:47:10.740 Sleep.

00:47:11.240 Yeah.

00:47:11.460 Yeah.

00:47:11.900 That's Scottish accent. 0.97

00:47:12.700 Don't try to relax.

00:47:14.660 Don't worry about relaxing.

00:47:16.180 become aware of the muscles behind your eyes oh yeah yeah it's like i haven't listened in a while

00:47:20.540 god and then i was like a couple times i've been like where i'm like i have been meditating and uh

00:47:26.260 oh jaqueline oh with an app back on tracy i'm a few days in back on tracy what app are you using

00:47:33.240 to meditate none i'm using this is actually this is a guided joe dispenza you know i was talking

00:47:39.920 about the joe dispenza stuff i was watching and it's like you get up isn't it remember i was like

00:47:45.120 Like I'm not getting up until I'm in love with my life, that whole thing.

00:47:47.680 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:47:48.160 It's like you get up as a new as a new person.

00:47:52.180 It's it's all it's I mean, I don't want to summarize it poorly, but I do like Dr. Joe.

00:47:58.480 I like his work.

00:48:00.560 Dr. Joe.

00:48:00.980 OK, I got reading about the.

00:48:02.800 Yeah.

00:48:03.280 No, I'm just going to say when I go back to L.A., my my return to health, a return to

00:48:08.300 meditation and I want to see a functional doctor.

00:48:11.000 I want to get the full panel.

00:48:12.260 I almost got it keeps happening.

00:48:14.420 and i keep like i want the full okay i've remembered it's microbiome it's microbiome

00:48:20.060 the whole time it's been six months since i've thought about it okay i want the panel now and i

00:48:26.660 am completely convinced that everything i feel is in the gut isn't my own feeling it's it's it's the

00:48:33.260 it's the it's their feeling that's why they scream for sugar okay that's why they get nervous and i

00:48:39.100 feel that singe of nerves in my stomach okay i always thought what is that adrenaline no that's

00:48:43.760 how it works okay it's them screaming i believe yeah yeah oh wow no they're in there the intelligence

00:48:51.380 of the microbiome it's the second brain oh yeah it's the first brain all the all the well

00:48:58.780 the second brain is the first and the way to a man's heart i actually remember so strongly a

00:49:05.280 family member saying that to me when i was like in the ninth grade and i had a boyfriend and she

00:49:10.280 was like well the way to a man's heart is through his stomach you're confused for a second it was

00:49:15.000 stomach i know i was confused doesn't read as cooking inherently yeah i was like you're like

00:49:20.700 the stomach oh cooking it took me a second yeah yeah because to me cooking it's all up in the

00:49:26.580 throat really there was a skincare thing something do you find this that's um this um i i had some

00:49:34.500 ferocious breakouts happening and i know i've said it before the zit stick uh i hate saying it but

00:49:41.920 that is how it's spelled god it's good it's just so good the micro darts the micro darts um

00:49:47.740 what has been i want to get ice globes i want to get into ice globes that's what i was gonna say

00:49:52.480 i thought you already were i have them oh you have a roller i have a roller but you have to be

00:49:56.580 you have to really make sure you're um spraying that with alcohol to you know get it clean after

00:50:03.100 you do that but because the whole thing with the ice roller with ice globes is it's not as cold as

00:50:07.880 ice which is the essential mistake people don't ever actually rub ice on your face going oh no

00:50:12.460 the point of these um of these instruments that they don't get as cold as ice similar to the gel

00:50:19.180 pack what do you mean you don't put ice on your injury that's why like oh right right right right

00:50:25.460 they're always wrapping in a towel but then i can't feel anything i know i always think more

00:50:31.420 is more to the point of danger yeah you have to be careful my uh so you know that my old pals

00:50:40.140 growing up that asked me about skincare on oh yeah how are they doing and I'm like rude and

00:50:46.220 it's like it's like fun yeah um like I'm like I'm like it's the principles actually it's not

00:50:53.580 the product or whatever I'm like yeah I'm like you can make it work with those sure if you listen

00:50:57.580 to me all right i told you because my one friend deirdre like went rogue and just bought something

00:51:03.140 all right you were furious used the full sample pack yeah and um and then like deirdre goes like

00:51:09.980 she's like this week she's like i'm thinking about getting a device okay and i was like what do you

00:51:15.100 mean okay yeah i was like or she said roller or something and i was like well if you mean you know

00:51:22.400 microneedle roller there's something for us to talk about if you mean jade roller then bye go

00:51:30.460 home and make yourself a cup of cocoa because keep dreaming you need a little pleasure in this life

00:51:36.600 and you need to dream yeah i mean i just i think dream bigger than the jade roller you're saying

00:51:42.040 yeah i think the jade roller is a laugh at this point it is funny no and the thing about the

00:51:46.480 guasha tool too is like absolutely if you commit to 30 years of it every day I mean well which is

00:51:53.040 a beautiful tool yeah at least the tool the roller to me it literally by the fact that it rolls I

00:52:00.640 mean it can't scrape one of the key guasha elements right so at least the guasha tool has different

00:52:05.760 things the rolling is just so when I went to face gym they did a little guasha on me and I realized 0.96

00:52:11.660 oh because I've read about this you really aren't supposed to go hard with the guasha you know and 0.68

00:52:15.840 people do it too you're not supposed to have it be um oh 90 perpendicular to your face right 1.00

00:52:21.520 supposed to be this other because she she did it so softly i was like is that what it is but

00:52:26.220 and i'll say it when i went to face gym and they used the face gym pure lift device on me

00:52:30.380 yes i was shocked did they do the thing where they show you half your face yeah so it's not

00:52:36.380 microcurrent it's something else pure lift is um what is it instead of microcurrent it's another

00:52:41.940 level of electric it's like deeper and it goes into the it goes like really into the muscle

00:52:47.240 versus that it goes deeper i believe i mean it was doesn't want something that goes deeper it

00:52:50.640 goes deep that's why i got it for myself for christmas you got it i know oh so that's what

00:52:56.640 i said i said to the friends i go well what's your budget because you say device if you're

00:53:02.240 thinking jade roller i'm not going to drop pure lift on you i'm going to say it again like the

00:53:07.120 solo wave zip oh the solo wave is the cheap i think solo wave is 150 maybe even slightly less

00:53:14.300 i gotta say i'm really into that thing i've really been using it and particularly for breakouts using

00:53:22.180 that i'm sorry you're lowering your heel time wow and i did a zip and a solo wave double um

00:53:31.420 double trouble so i said i said you know i recommend the zip yeah i was like or or the 0.95

00:53:36.780 peer lift i was like but also you know you could use your goddamn mitts as you said uh once like 0.93

00:53:44.440 you know there's there's plenty of information out there it's classic case the empowerment of 0.97

00:53:49.220 information plus barely a tool can get it done i mean it can't i don't think it's up get done

00:53:53.980 what the peer lift does but anyway and i don't even know if it works i just know that the tech

00:53:58.660 is different and that like and so i'm willing to like i'm willing to hitch myself to a dream you

00:54:04.900 know what i mean like if the tech is different it still might not work but at least i know i'm

00:54:08.380 getting something different that excites me but i go i like laid it out i was like i saved up for

00:54:14.040 christmas and got this i mean i'm not saying you know you you know but zip it you know and my

00:54:18.880 friend's like what how do i get it like my friend laura who gets into it like she's like how do i

00:54:22.660 get it like is there a waiting list i was like no you know like get it right now the allure of

00:54:29.500 the allure of like uh you know the allure of something being hard to get yeah i'm like no

00:54:36.540 you can get it and then and then and then she goes she goes it's like so can you vouch for the zip

00:54:43.460 or the blah blah like she's like can you vouch for these devices you know what um what results

00:54:49.120 have you like noticed or experienced? And I go, I can vouch for nothing. I go, I will not get

00:54:56.180 sucked in. Okay. Right. To promises. No, all I can say, all I can do. I mean, I've gotten ear to

00:55:03.200 the ground. I mean, a series of marketing directed straight to me, by the way, by the way, what a

00:55:10.080 consumer thinks they've got the ear to the ground. In fact, they've listened to advertising. Oh yeah,

00:55:15.720 of course of course that's so funny scrolling instagram yeah but i was like all i can say is

00:55:21.300 that i'm i'm i'm the target consumer and with and these are at least you're in the realm of what is

00:55:28.420 considered you know what i mean yes yes but i i was like i will not vouch i will not make promises

00:55:35.000 because they i did i tell you they came back to me that to say that their skincare results have

00:55:39.600 plateaued oh yeah yeah yeah and it and it's like well you know the thing and i had to yeah i panicked

00:55:45.840 the thing that you brought into my life i know i've said this on pug a lot is the sprayable

00:55:49.360 essence and now i feel so naked without it that i can't even imagine yes i can't imagine it honestly

00:55:56.340 even almost a day without a sprayable essence feels like a lifetime well to get out of the

00:56:03.100 to get out of the shower let's say to wash the face and let it dry completely i'll never let

00:56:09.120 that happen again thanks to you it's just it feels insane it feels like you're trying to make a chip

00:56:14.280 out of your face i gotta get a kale chip for dehydration i'm needing to i can't even believe

00:56:22.600 i'm saying these words because it's almost like when you just see that you you haven't improved

00:56:26.460 or things have don't change the retinal vitamin c i'm still i've been using my doctor the gross

00:56:32.000 vitamin c lightweight oil moisturizer which i like and that's really good under makeup yes it's like

00:56:38.560 light, but you know, we're transitioning into colder months. Oh, and therefore you want something

00:56:45.260 heavier? Well, no, I just was going to say that I haven't the, the under the, the vitamin C serum

00:56:51.060 that they make is a little bit, it was a little, it felt a little too thick for a summer. That's

00:56:54.980 what I meant. So now maybe I can get back into it. Oh, I thought you were saying you're heading

00:56:57.480 into winter. Oh, I see. I see. No, no. I actually was being confusing. So that was on me. No,

00:57:04.200 I don't think it was. The doctor, the dentist grows under eye vitamin C eye cream. I'm loving

00:57:10.460 and it would go as far as to go. I vouch. Every morning, every night. Oh, you know what I've been

00:57:16.060 doing? I have been completely committed to cheek squats. Okay. I've done it. Okay. So if you just

00:57:27.140 really start Googling and you go, what, what, what is real and what's not in terms of aging and

00:57:32.180 skin care and the whole thing yeah and by the way let's set aside the fact that you know the

00:57:36.380 implications obviously it's forever set aside okay so me going what's real okay what what's real

00:57:44.160 and going you know what what can be done and what can't and the biggest the biggest thing where i

00:57:51.580 started to go you know that nothing can be done is the fact that fat travels down the face like it

00:57:58.380 the fat that fills out your face gravity it literally just travels down okay yeah um and

00:58:07.180 doesn't fill in these spots like you used to hence fillers and see everybody's face looking like a

00:58:13.000 like a balloon yeah yeah and but whatever so i go well i gotta replace the fat with something

00:58:21.500 muscle right okay so now i'm working the cheek muscles okay and and and part of it this is why

00:58:29.040 i follow coco face yoga on instagram oh yeah you've been talking about her she's all about

00:58:35.160 waking up the sleeping muscles and relaxing the ones that overwork in the face okay explain it

00:58:40.940 you can do a cheek squat i mean you really got to see it but but essentially in the way that

00:58:46.760 you're laughing so hard your cheeks hurt okay yeah yeah you just do that you just like lift

00:58:51.640 them the fuck up yeah it'll happen like try holding that for a minute and then like squeeze

00:58:56.400 them okay and they start to burn and it feels good you're like oh it's like are you putting 0.82

00:59:03.160 stress on the eyes well yeah and that's why you gotta if you're going to the next level you rest

00:59:09.080 the fingers on the skin wow you manually rest them so that you're the skin you're stopping

00:59:16.580 the skin from crinkling while you work the muscle i'm gonna look up fingers cheek squats

00:59:21.020 yeah cocoa cocoa face yoga and then the other thing i've been doing is there was this viral

00:59:29.000 sort of clip going around where someone lifts their head hand up over their head yeah okay

00:59:35.400 and they pull at the cheek with their fingers yeah the other way unexpected direction and then

00:59:43.300 they do that for a little bit wildly kind of face gym style and then they scrape across that 0.98

00:59:47.960 cheekbone on the side of their hand and then that side of the face is like fucking shaped 0.97

00:59:53.060 oh amazing it's like it's like no touching the face thing you've been saying this for 0.98

00:59:58.200 since poog started manual manipulation of the muscle and i want you to know that i hear i heard

01:00:04.160 you it took two years and some change for it to fully get in but it's in now and great and we're

01:00:11.660 And then the zip can help, honestly, I think, help wake up the muscles.

01:00:17.700 Oh, I think so too.

01:00:18.820 I love the zip.

01:00:19.720 And I do a zip, you know, for a special event, for being photographed,

01:00:23.340 or you just want to be especially snatched that night.

01:00:26.580 I love a zip.

01:00:27.460 But also this goes into just, it feels, you know,

01:00:30.040 there's nothing I love more than having an hour and a half to get ready

01:00:33.760 because I want to take a long shower.

01:00:35.440 I want to oil up.

01:00:36.620 I want to listen to music.

01:00:37.920 I want to monologue into the mirror for at least 35 minutes.

01:00:41.000 so yes and then the zip is part of becomes part of that and it's just fun

01:00:45.820 and to think once again not being paid by zip i just oh not a dollar has been exchanged yeah

01:00:52.720 um we gotta go we gotta go uh well i'm gonna i miss you i miss you i love you i can't wait

01:01:02.880 i'll see under the sea we're excited everyone start looking at options by the way we can go

01:01:07.460 in any weather if we have a wetsuit I think yes true also don't those keep you warm also huge

01:01:13.320 announcement one of the most biodiverse unbelievable snorkeling reefs is wait for it

01:01:20.500 off the coast of in ventura county yeah so is it catalina island it's not catalina island it's

01:01:26.260 not ventura it's the vent it's okay yeah I just don't know the words I'm just gonna say this once

01:01:30.960 I have a place where we can stay we're going it would be huge okay I love you I'm in all right I

01:01:36.300 I love you.

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01:01:57.300 We're all here tonight or sitting at home watching

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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - October 11, 2022

Drop a Penny in the Sea

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