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00:02:08.720 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:10.140 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:02:11.240 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

00:02:15.980 Two untamable intellects.

00:02:17.740 This is our hobby. 0.97

00:02:18.580 This is our hell.

00:02:19.440 This is our naked desire for free products.

00:02:21.720 This is POOG.

00:02:23.140 Today's topic, loosely speaking.

00:02:24.580 French Press.

00:02:26.100 Body Lotion

00:02:27.780 Easy Pass

00:02:29.780 So I woke up at like four in the morning and I was like

00:02:34.140 You're kidding

00:02:34.760 God, I gotta set an alarm 1.00

00:02:36.080 Fuck, you know, like I was like, shit 1.00

00:02:38.100 Because you're never, you're never late 1.00

00:02:40.720 No

00:02:41.140 You know, my whole life, particularly in the depression years

00:02:43.880 Was all about oversleeping

00:02:46.500 Oh my God

00:02:47.920 And today I did it

00:02:49.580 Brilliant touch, you've shown up in my sweatshirt

00:02:51.640 You've shown up in my sweatshirt

00:02:53.080 Honey, I've been wearing it constantly

00:02:55.120 Is it cozy?

00:02:57.180 It's so cozy, I love it

00:02:58.160 Just so everything's clear

00:02:59.500 Literally, everyone

00:03:02.220 That's the ding, I haven't even had coffee, okay

00:03:04.080 This is hyper

00:03:04.760 Okay, so I'm stressed about you not having coffee

00:03:09.840 No, I'm going to have coffee

00:03:12.240 I'm going to have coffee

00:03:13.160 I'm going to walk away

00:03:14.800 You'll make it

00:03:15.400 I'm going to walk away

00:03:16.200 You'll have to

00:03:17.700 Okay, so everyone listening at home

00:03:22.060 I have lipstick on 0.72

00:03:23.640 You look incredible

00:03:24.920 Okay, we had a 9 a.m. poog record date. 0.99

00:03:30.220 I don't set my alarm because I wake up. 0.98

00:03:34.580 Doll's eyes.

00:03:35.280 Doll's eyes.

00:03:36.940 Doll's eyes have been fluttering at like 7.50, 8 a.m., 7.30.

00:03:41.060 I just don't need to do it.

00:03:43.460 Yes.

00:03:43.780 My doll's eyes flutter awake this morning.

00:03:46.380 I look over at the clock and I truly, like a cartoon, I'm like, mm.

00:03:50.900 I'm like, good morning.

00:03:52.160 And I look over.

00:03:53.060 it's 9 40 9 30 i go oh oh i grab my phone i see the missed call from you i see the text

00:04:01.200 i shouldn't have i shouldn't have the missed call no no i love that you called no listen

00:04:05.900 you had every right to call call and text no it's fine and then jacklyn i of course called

00:04:11.540 jacklyn i'm like so violent hello and you're so sweet you're like what's wrong like you thought 0.93

00:04:16.560 it's so fucked up and i was like oh wait are you crying outside of the street yeah and i was like 0.97

00:04:21.780 I slept and you were like, that's 1.00

00:04:23.980 fine. It was like

00:04:25.360 the glory of the Lord, the relief. 0.99

00:04:28.660 Oh, I'm like, I don't give a shit. 0.99

00:04:30.300 And then I started laughing. Which is true. 0.99

00:04:31.840 And I was like, hyper. My whole life is being late.

00:04:34.440 Hyper morning poog.

00:04:36.320 Okay, I am going to step away. We are going to have to 0.99

00:04:37.960 take a break because I have to make the coffee.

00:04:40.660 But I started talking

00:04:42.040 and Jacqueline said, 0.98

00:04:43.800 save it for the pod. Save the morning voice. 0.89

00:04:46.040 Yeah, I'm just wondering.

00:04:48.400 You're going to make the coffee. I just wanted

00:04:49.800 to say, wait, wait, where is this? It just made me

00:04:51.720 laugh. I wrote ding dong. And then I get I'm so sorry. I'm

00:04:58.400 stunned. Mortified. I'm stunned is genius. Because I mean, we

00:05:03.600 should talk about this. What do you do? And you have to explain

00:05:08.220 because it's all you can do is go

00:05:10.140 My throat hurts. But it's not bad. No, it's like morning is

00:05:13.960 morning. It's morning set up your canopy. Oh, by the way, I

00:05:17.940 actually as I was falling asleep last night, okay, I'm gonna

00:05:19.900 save it for the hang on let me go make a coffee i'm going to do friendship during their pour over

00:05:24.180 i know i i changed my life i became a french drip person french drip are you gonna have to

00:05:30.940 boil water press honey the water's boiled how dang oh you hit that on the way oh that's that's

00:05:37.240 what you did i'll be right back all right ding all right run away time me i want to know how

00:05:42.800 long it takes all right no guess what i'm gonna do it's gonna be so french i'm gonna bring over

00:05:46.880 the French press to the table six minutes into the podcast.

00:05:51.140 Here's your chance people pause boil your water coming so that 0.61

00:05:55.260 you can have a thing with Kate. It's very 80s to be like, okay,

00:05:59.720 pause the tape to go get your notebook to do the exercise. See,

00:06:04.280 we should do this. We should have different experiences that are

00:06:08.240 discreet. We should sell them for smart like a 15 minute French 1.00

00:06:12.560 press experience. You get your you know, it's always there for

00:06:16.200 you. You can go find it separated out of the podcast. Maybe it's a download $500. And it is,

00:06:24.860 you know, okay, get your water. Okay, boil it, whatever. The whole setup. And then you sit there

00:06:30.020 six minutes along with the recording. I don't know. I think there's something there. I hear

00:06:35.780 her little footsteps oh my god there it is oh wait let me check the timer 337 oh yeah not bad

00:06:45.640 i actually said some interesting things oh i love that i'm gonna run back to the milk but 0.87

00:06:51.220 i also thought how fun looked the ag if we're not the goddamn face of it in six months i mean we we 0.91

00:06:57.160 put them in our goddamn we put a supplement in our goddamn gift guide i get texts when people 0.97

00:07:01.460 go in do you really like a lot of greens they think it's a hat they think it's a lie i know 0.98

00:07:05.280 they think we were paid to put that in and it's so devastating because we should have been we oh

00:07:10.320 I had a genius idea real quick about that about a way for us to seduce brands you ready so you know

00:07:16.420 how poog account naturally are you okay you're about to spit out the ag which I've never seen 0.92

00:07:23.540 you do can't even imagine oh my god I almost laughed I almost spewed it it's just so funny

00:07:29.820 to me sometimes just like I zoomed out for a second and saw us I know how to get brands to

00:07:42.580 respond and just I just I zoomed out well I was saying to you the other day that you get a very 1.00

00:07:53.020 specific part of my personality um that no one else sees which is a rabid business woman that's

00:07:59.060 not as a rabid peddler i'm so moved i mean it's it's um also i actually yeah last night 0.95

00:08:05.820 but i want to take my idea don't let me forget i'm just gonna say of how to seduce listen the

00:08:10.760 press has been good to us here at pook headquarters okay wait what

00:08:14.700 the press has been good to us here at poog headquarters the press and it's been listen

00:08:24.620 it's gauche to talk about it on air but we've got we're on the top we're on these really kind

00:08:28.800 of sexual some sexy top tens you know my father my father goes hey time magazine top 10 that i

00:08:37.640 understand i'll tell you time gets the parents time gets the parents every time big time got an

00:08:42.560 aunt you know and as i was drifting last night i was like i'm a podcaster oh no i couldn't i was

00:08:51.120 like i was like wait because the new yorker has been good to us which is the new york is good to

00:08:56.260 you honey what else do you my mother's gonna love me forever um right but no but but the point being

00:09:04.200 that we're podcasters and it was something i hadn't really considered until i was falling

00:09:10.160 it was always our greatest fear always the greatest fear and but guess what flying high

00:09:16.660 loving it i love the medium i mean it is direct there's no way around it in a year when we were

00:09:22.980 so separated the fact that it's just no it just always shocks me that podcast comes from what

00:09:29.420 ipods yeah it started as ipod oh my god no really because i think so like it's so like it reminds me

00:09:37.100 of like almost the way like the word computer that we take for granted like compute compute

00:09:42.460 right right yeah it should be called like a computer it um it computes things it should be

00:09:46.920 called computer here's a better idea this is sounds like a better name for a computer

00:09:51.820 desk desk lab yeah sure does doesn't that sound like a better like imagine

00:09:59.220 i'm not saying i'm pitching that we call that that this is saying that this seems like a name

00:10:05.680 that would have been like if they were if they were writing okay here are the options computer

00:10:09.600 desk lab well they'd be like obviously not computer we have a lot we plan for it to do

00:10:15.480 a lot more than a calculator it's like calling it a calculator i could see the guy computes

00:10:19.100 functions like no desk lab oh totally yeah or or like i mean the desk thing makes a lot of sense

00:10:28.220 right because it's particularly in its origins oh by the way i still don't know if it's laptop

00:10:32.340 or laptop is it laptop or lab top laptop wait wait wait I always don't I never know do you

00:10:39.820 really do you mean you literally don't Jacqueline like if you were spelling it I'm trying to be 0.80

00:10:43.940 like I'm so quirky I don't understand but I swear no I know you're real but I fuck up laptop and

00:10:49.540 laptop all the time maybe because I was I'm so I've never said that I've never thought of the

00:10:55.700 term desk lab but maybe I I don't know I would think about reincarnation that's why right maybe

00:11:01.780 i was there maybe i was the desk lab guy you died in 89 or whatever i mean yeah nine well no one

00:11:10.380 talks about it doesn't matter really yeah you weren't you a bit soulless those first couple

00:11:19.140 years i don't know i had a lot of charisma you jumped no no i know i know i'm just i'm going to

00:11:26.400 grab but no one thinks their past life is from the 80s and i think it's so funny because guess

00:11:30.580 what it could be you could have gotten in and out really sure no i i don't mean i don't mean

00:11:36.640 you specifically i'm i need to get the cup for the coffee all right go get it it's froth i'm

00:11:43.480 sorry i'm sorry i'm coming no it's in heaven it's heavenly i love that i love i love like

00:11:49.660 you know a lot of people hate when their friend orders a coffee on the phone while they're you

00:11:54.920 know excuse me like you're talking talking and then you hear hey soy latte whatever and um

00:12:00.220 i think it's nice then you can relax knowing your friend now has their coffee

00:12:04.540 you hear me talking i have the delight of a child no i just like i'm just love listen

00:12:13.700 guess why i'm so happy jaclyn because i got so much sleep too

00:12:17.100 well that's the that's the unspoken thing i feel truly rested i feel truly rested

00:12:24.600 like arriving at your job looking fresh as a daisy. Yeah, but

00:12:29.400 arriving three hours late. I used to yeah, I used to the ad

00:12:34.740 agency was a real problem. Like two I like oversleep. I took a

00:12:39.900 cab. Okay, to work every single day. When I worked at the ad

00:12:44.080 agency because I always overslept and I couldn't catch a

00:12:46.380 cab. So there was just this car this man that just parked

00:12:49.740 outside of no stop. I was in town where I lived. Okay. I mean,

00:12:53.700 he was like a driver basically but he just sort of parked there he was like you know like um like a

00:12:58.120 non you know registered sort of cab unlicensed and i like i'd come out and i'd see him there

00:13:05.120 and i it was like it was like it was me and there was like probably another woman who like

00:13:09.740 sometimes needed him i mean it obviously worked out for him he wouldn't come there every day

00:13:14.700 you had a personal driver there's my man get in and i was so like cold and and depressed and i

00:13:23.040 would just get it was so comforting i will say on the outside the ad agency on the corner there was

00:13:29.460 a um just a classic new york corner stand with bagels the donuts and the coffee and that's where

00:13:36.540 you get a coffee with milk and it's practically gray but it's perfect you get coffee with cream 0.98

00:13:42.420 milk whatever you get a donut like a stupid jelly donut and it's a revelation you know what i mean 0.98

00:13:47.700 like it's not about of course artisanal it is not it is like yeah i'll take one of those yeah 0.99

00:13:54.580 and it better be cold yeah yeah yeah cold from the streets i've never had first sips of coffee

00:14:04.960 on air but what were you gonna say soaring i'm soaring because i'm too too in as you understand

00:14:09.740 and i'm already a blowhard no no wait i was gonna say no i mean two i'm two coffees in i'm not too

00:14:16.420 into us or or too into the we're podcasting kate wakes up we're podcasting i mean truly

00:14:22.500 really the last night though this is and this made me laugh yes out loud alone in my bed

00:14:27.920 was drifting off and one of the thoughts right before i fully entered sleep was tata harper

00:14:35.420 no about wanting to reach out yeah about like we were about like i was like tata harper because

00:14:45.020 Because Tata Harper, well, yeah, I had a sample and it was incredible.

00:14:49.480 Yeah.

00:14:50.000 Yeah, honey.

00:14:50.820 So I had a sample.

00:14:51.820 It's hard to be sold on a sample.

00:14:53.460 Oh my God.

00:14:54.320 Okay.

00:14:55.100 I have been sold on the samples as well.

00:14:57.920 So I have had, I one time, my friend had glowing skin.

00:15:03.300 She goes, she was pregnant at the time.

00:15:05.340 She was like, oh yeah, this Tata Harper exfoliating cleanser.

00:15:08.660 I bought it.

00:15:09.660 At the time I was like, God, it was like a pretty small tube, 40 bucks. 0.99

00:15:12.420 I was like, damn, exfoliating. 0.99

00:15:14.560 Loved it. 0.98

00:15:15.020 loved it loved it didn't replenish maybe I bought a second one even the story ends there

00:15:21.140 but then I received I received an incredible sample pack of like four of the products

00:15:29.780 yes I'm into it and there was one night that I even used they had this like mask and I put the

00:15:35.560 mask on what wait wait wait I'm so sorry no no I'm gonna let you continue and we could we'll have

00:15:40.740 Like I'll cut this probably

00:15:42.220 Was it a white lotus gift?

00:15:44.980 Okay me too

00:15:45.580 Okay it stays

00:15:47.000 It stays in

00:15:47.940 Wait wait

00:15:49.020 Jacqueline

00:15:49.460 How did we not talk about that?

00:15:51.740 Okay so

00:15:52.080 The away suitcase?

00:15:53.340 Oh my god

00:15:53.600 Okay this

00:15:54.040 Okay

00:15:54.320 Everyone on coke

00:15:55.500 Listen this is staying in

00:15:56.580 Why would this not stay in?

00:15:58.020 Because it's almost like

00:15:59.000 It's a brag?

00:15:59.540 I was so ashamed by the fact

00:16:01.280 Because it's so

00:16:01.800 The bounty? 1.00

00:16:02.360 White lotus-y 1.00

00:16:03.060 To get the bounty 1.00

00:16:04.040 No no no

00:16:04.600 It's like I was living them

00:16:05.800 This stays

00:16:06.320 We were the monsters

00:16:06.880 This stays

00:16:07.360 So the white lotus

00:16:08.220 The wonderful 0.80

00:16:08.960 White lotus

00:16:10.480 we never spoke about this

00:16:12.580 I think one of us

00:16:14.940 was so terrified

00:16:15.940 who at HBO is our guardian angel

00:16:21.440 I get a package

00:16:22.820 I go what's this

00:16:23.780 it's huge

00:16:24.360 I take it upstairs

00:16:28.520 I open the box

00:16:29.940 there's this huge tropical leaf

00:16:33.880 move the leaf aside

00:16:35.200 there's an away suitcase

00:16:36.560 away suitcase

00:16:38.760 I go what

00:16:40.840 I open the away suitcase

00:16:43.280 It flops open

00:16:44.240 It's from the white lotus

00:16:46.820 And there is a

00:16:47.680 What's the brand

00:16:49.480 My fancy friend told me

00:16:50.800 It's like a nice Italian brand

00:16:52.400 A fret Italian 1.00

00:16:54.380 Fucking bathrobe 1.00

00:16:56.380 That says the white lotus in it 1.00

00:16:57.700 As if you're staying at the white lotus

00:16:58.960 And that's the robe

00:16:59.740 I mean unimaginable

00:17:00.720 A diptyque candle

00:17:02.680 Tata Harper stuff 0.99

00:17:04.360 God damn a luggage tag 0.99

00:17:06.620 Fret sandals too 1.00

00:17:07.580 Fret sandals

00:17:08.760 Slippers, a white lotus luggage tag embossed with your initials, chocolate.

00:17:14.600 Okay.

00:17:15.140 I want to talk about being sold on a sample.

00:17:16.600 So those tiny little, you know, Sephora birthday, whatever, like even a serum, a cleanser, when

00:17:23.040 you squeeze it out of the little tiny tube, it does, you just, you can't experience the

00:17:27.860 luxury of it.

00:17:28.520 I guess it's because you haven't made the financial commitment to a huge bottle of something.

00:17:31.840 You don't feel the reverence.

00:17:33.260 Yeah.

00:17:34.180 Like, you know, when they, I mean, at least the little tube is a thousand times better

00:17:38.140 than when it's just a little um when they decant it oil can you imagine foil pack oh yeah like a

00:17:45.200 packet oh yeah the packet the packet thing is like the packet thing away can't throw away under

00:17:51.460 any circumstance but because i'm no and yet and yet they are when have you ever opened one maybe

00:17:56.860 twice my whole life i mean i can't recall i guess it's because it's like you're gonna try it once

00:18:03.020 i don't know you're gonna fall in love and then it's over by the way you're never gonna fall in

00:18:06.240 them after one try is that true though do i agree with that um boy hang on but the tata harper was

00:18:14.040 was was quite excellent there was i utilized it you know it's elegant the tata harper travel pack

00:18:21.300 frankly the smell oh the smell and i know we're all like oh unscented whatever

00:18:25.060 it smells like goddamn orange it smells like orange it smells like and of course they're i

00:18:31.120 believe very green okay this is a full ad and we will be reaching out to them to hq 0.98

00:18:35.620 begging um my idea is so you know how poog instagram naturally follows no one right because

00:18:43.100 we don't want to have to get involved in that it's exhausting right who do we follow you and me

00:18:48.080 right makes perfect sense it's as it should be we don't need people hunting through we don't need

00:18:52.300 brands going so we want to go after tata right let's say yeah we follow tata and that's it

00:18:58.640 so you go over to poog podcast and you see that they follow one and it's the current brand we're

00:19:05.000 begging for kind of interesting actually they should pay for the privilege they should pay to

00:19:11.120 be followed by poop anyway i think tata i actually just um i just worked through the last of my

00:19:18.040 that goop cleanser that i just really love the malachite i don't even know i the malachite

00:19:23.380 it's really it's just really yeah and it's with a double cleanse if you do an oil first

00:19:28.360 which i do i'm about to ask for more may what um what oil cleanser may lindstrom yeah what are

00:19:34.640 gonna say yeah i've never tried it it's really divine what's what's um i get my oil cleansers

00:19:41.040 generally my oil cleansers um or bombs right either one from soko glam honey i just got soko

00:19:48.080 just sent me the then i met you i haven't used it yet it's very exciting i have some bombs like i

00:19:53.440 have the drunk elephant bomb that i haven't finished that i love for taking off makeup

00:19:58.160 oh yeah there was something about you know my you know my facialist told me though i want to say

00:20:02.980 Let's hear it.

00:20:03.560 She goes, Argan oil.

00:20:05.180 You can get it in a huge thing anywhere.

00:20:08.340 And that's your oil cleanser.

00:20:08.920 And she goes like, that's great.

00:20:10.480 But continue.

00:20:12.140 No, absolutely.

00:20:13.660 I mean, so.

00:20:14.980 But we're not after that on this show, are we?

00:20:17.700 No.

00:20:19.300 Not at all.

00:20:19.920 Sorry, Becky.

00:20:20.440 I mean, no, sometimes.

00:20:20.940 Becky, I'm interrupting you.

00:20:21.720 The elephant, the drunk elephant had a smell you didn't like?

00:20:24.340 The cleanser kind of, there was something a little Vaseline about it.

00:20:27.760 I don't know, something about it kind of term.

00:20:29.220 I realized I was sort of, but I loved it.

00:20:30.960 I mean, I was using it.

00:20:32.160 But then I moved, so I have this hand skin oil cleanser that I use.

00:20:36.360 It's in a pump, which is convenient.

00:20:37.860 We love a pump.

00:20:38.720 We love a pump.

00:20:39.560 I want a pump lotion.

00:20:42.880 Well, it's essential.

00:20:45.760 And I need a lotion, body lotion.

00:20:49.360 That's kind of a thing that I'm like, I kind of do want to go like clean on that.

00:20:52.720 You know what I mean?

00:20:53.080 If I'm putting it all over my body, can someone on the air please recommend,

00:20:58.200 I want a truly moisturizing pump body lotion.

00:21:02.160 Yeah. And you're not, and someone's going to write in coconut oil and you're going to have to say, no, I'm not talking about oil.

00:21:07.540 No, I'm not talking about, and I'm certainly, I want lotion.

00:21:10.500 And also in my experience, so many of those like natural, clean body lotions are so thin.

00:21:16.740 Like they're just like made of water or something. I have never been impressed.

00:21:21.060 I don't want it too fragrant, but I'll take some fragrance, but it's going to be good.

00:21:24.780 What about the Osea?

00:21:26.620 Oh, the oil?

00:21:28.680 No, I think it was a lotion. I think.

00:21:30.460 Really? I have the Osea.

00:21:31.740 body oil pump is

00:21:33.640 glorious and it smells beautiful

00:21:35.600 and I overly conserve it. I save it.

00:21:38.740 Never, Kate. I know.

00:21:40.100 I know. Because also,

00:21:41.780 Kate, if you show the brand your empty bottle,

00:21:43.640 they're going to be pleased and actually

00:21:45.540 want to refill, I would believe.

00:21:47.580 Was Lubriderm, do you remember?

00:21:49.300 Lubriderm is my mother.

00:21:52.100 Yeah. Lubriderm is synonymous

00:21:53.940 with Lubriderm. I don't know, the 90s?

00:21:55.740 The alligator. The alligator

00:21:57.940 sliding essentially

00:21:59.720 across the screen.

00:22:01.740 And we'll go to break.

00:22:08.920 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.

00:22:12.980 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.

00:22:18.140 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune.

00:22:22.140 It was hard to wrap your head around.

00:22:23.340 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

00:22:27.120 No, I am not your guru.

00:22:30.340 And back then, I lied to my parents, I lied to police, I lied to everybody.

00:22:35.780 There were years, right, where I could not say your name.

00:22:38.760 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California, interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists, whomever I can, to try to find out what actually happened.

00:22:47.600 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend?

00:22:52.180 They have had this case for 30 years. 1.00

00:22:54.960 I'll teach you sons of bitches, come around here and my wife. Boom, boom. 1.00

00:22:59.220 This is The Red Weather.

00:23:02.420 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:23:09.320 Crook and Chase Nashville chats with the coolest cat in country music.

00:23:13.280 He is edgy. He's fun. He is Chase Matthews.

00:23:16.620 Keith Urban helped make him a global sensation last year, but it's his recent number one hit, Darling, that put Chase on the map

00:23:22.360 and launched a fun and difficult conversation about lovers who cheat and lie.

00:23:27.620 That's why I'm scared to get married.

00:23:28.960 You're giving me trust issues, brother.

00:23:30.520 Crook and Chase Nashville Chats with Chase Matthew.

00:23:32.880 Listen and subscribe on the iHeartRadio app,

00:23:35.680 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

00:23:39.800 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, from The Girlfriends,

00:23:43.320 the number one hit true crime show

00:23:45.640 that puts women right in the center of their own stories.

00:23:49.780 I'm back with more one-off interviews 1.00

00:23:51.900 with some truly kick-ass women on The Girlfriends Spotlight. 1.00

00:23:56.200 I want to introduce you to Sylvia 1.00

00:23:59.100 I'm going to climb this

00:24:01.200 and then there's Vaisaka

00:24:03.380 let's see how we can

00:24:05.300 stop killing and save lives

00:24:07.600 Leila dared to ask the question

00:24:09.980 is badness hereditary

00:24:11.940 and finally

00:24:13.080 we'll meet Rosamund

00:24:14.320 if it wasn't for the air 0.97

00:24:16.100 where Ella lived

00:24:17.200 she wouldn't have died

00:24:18.420 on that fatal night

00:24:19.940 you'll even get to meet

00:24:21.100 my mum in that one

00:24:21.940 who I can always count on 0.95

00:24:23.460 to keep my feet on the ground

00:24:24.780 I'm not too intimidated by her.

00:24:26.540 What are you talking about? 1.00

00:24:29.380 Listen to The Girlfriend Spotlight on the iHeartRadio app, 1.00

00:24:32.860 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:24:44.820 Here's the thing about Lubriderm.

00:24:46.120 As a child, I had the most just dry, lower calf,

00:24:51.200 like above the ankle, that area of the leg,

00:24:53.180 would be the lubriderm central for me right then i realized you know stop soaping that area as 0.99

00:25:00.100 aggressively as you would your fucking butt yeah okay yeah so anyway i just i really had to get 0.99

00:25:07.040 off hard soap and move in the direction of caress move in the direction of oh dove was always a 0.99

00:25:14.280 religious thing in the house growing up actually let's talk about the religiousness of dove my

00:25:18.880 grandmother used it as her facial cleanser forever had the softest skin however wrinkles

00:25:25.120 absolute wrinkles no denying it yeah okay but the scent of dove doesn't mean anything to you

00:25:31.380 does it mean home yes it does my mother who has incredibly soft skin and incredible skin

00:25:36.120 my mother who for me in many ways is a is a gold standard of aging um yes and

00:25:43.000 she notoriously only uses the cheapest of products right yes and so chic i know it really is it's so

00:25:55.260 it's really is and um dove soap was always the medicine that was always the prescription for

00:26:00.800 everything and so the bars of dove soap and i'll go home and i'll even sometimes steal one or two

00:26:05.780 bring them back to the house um well the promise it was genius what is it non-quarter what one

00:26:12.980 quarter moisturizing bar oh right I forgot about that well for me I just hear my mother like a

00:26:18.460 chorus singing in my ear non-commonogenic oh really yeah being like that's interesting that

00:26:25.660 Dove would be that I'm almost surprised yeah because most soap isn't I believe it is do you

00:26:31.100 remember basic soap the brand B-A-S-I yes spelling the word basic um I think you're right too because

00:26:39.360 most brands have to you know change from words that already are taken the light i picture a

00:26:44.120 light green leaf and i feel like i feel like there was a moment where dermatologists were

00:26:49.540 recommending it what are you holding up i'm holding up so soco glam thanks to you truly

00:26:54.220 reached out and was like you can send us a wish list of some things you want

00:26:57.600 am i yeah well we talked about them in our piece of course i really wish that i had known exactly

00:27:02.560 what you were getting though because i feel like you're really the pro but i spent hundreds and

00:27:05.680 hundreds but i was seduced by this collagen um eye cream i the reason i was like don't follow

00:27:12.560 my list is because i feel like my list is sort of deep cuts my you know my wish list for soko glam

00:27:19.080 is like stuff i don't have like where because i actually have already purchased i see some of the

00:27:23.720 i went to the strategist i said to you i said right i saw that you went to the strategist and

00:27:28.200 i don't know why i knew maybe you told me oh no not upset but like i mean like it wasn't the

00:27:33.080 smart thing to do i was like get hand skin get essences i know i got two essences i got i got

00:27:38.880 two essences misha did you get misha i think i told you to get time revolution i put that on my

00:27:43.420 list but they didn't send it to me okay time revolution yes it's a spray yes well you've

00:27:51.060 changed my life you've changed my life there are two with the idea of spraying so because your skin 0.53

00:27:55.840 is so unbelievable so you're truly you want to tell me you're spraying all day you're spraying 0.60

00:27:59.300 all day anytime i pass one oh my so right now neogen this is a this is a this is a so-co glam

00:28:07.260 purchase oh my god look at this neogen really ferment micro miss no it's not in a spray no i

00:28:12.940 know this was going to tell you so they have two they have two versions the spray might be gone but

00:28:16.400 here's what you got to do it's okay because a lot of the best essences still come not in a spray

00:28:21.000 you simply have to buy spray bottles and then you get to put a little label on it it's fun okay i

00:28:26.620 did it for my mother because i got her that same essence and i knew she wouldn't use it if she had

00:28:30.500 to open it and drop it into her hand i mean i actually like her a spray bottle i actually have

00:28:35.580 liked the an essence bottle that a friend gave me because she didn't want it was sk2 essence which

00:28:41.620 i think markets it's like obscenely expensive right so i was like so excited and i actually

00:28:46.140 enjoyed pumping it into my hand and slapping it on my face like aftershave totally like i really

00:28:51.620 liked that good if you like that then do it but if you're gonna want to spray throughout the

00:28:56.540 day you need spray washing the face while it's still sort of damp you slap on the essence

00:29:02.480 is that what you're telling me yeah i would say i would say you just past the point where if you

00:29:08.120 put the essence on it's actually being like like diluted in a drop of water you don't want that

00:29:12.880 you just want it like but just enough where you feel it's supple yeah it's supple if you touched

00:29:18.500 your face you could feel that you had just washed it that's kind of yeah you're locking in the

00:29:24.040 moisture have you been you don't want to spray it and have it dripping down you know what's a

00:29:27.040 serum it's really interesting to me is the dr loretta have you tried that one they send it to

00:29:30.980 us i can't believe you're saying that because that's been that's been on our shelf for some

00:29:34.280 time it was sent to us it was a long and i feel like i only really started on it the last two

00:29:40.000 nights if you can imagine we're in it together and i have to say how oily it was yeah so it's it's

00:29:45.300 thick but it actually absorbs oh yeah yeah it feels moisturizing and i've been i've been you

00:29:52.640 know in these summer months we have to moisturize but i've been i've been breaking out wait it's

00:29:58.960 winter kate oh my god you're right okay i meant to say winter i've been breaking out i've been

00:30:04.320 breaking out along my jawline and of course i blame masks i blame it all but i um it's been 0.78

00:30:15.200 upsetting and i have been and again i know i've said this but it's the goddamn truth the zip for

00:30:22.200 acne zipping really helps the the that's amazing that the zit is spent on my face however

00:30:27.940 and the and the zip patches i swear by but it's just like i don't know zip packages people might

00:30:35.040 think you said zip pack zip patches the the zip patches don't want them running where are those

00:30:40.960 zip packages i also got this packet i also got the snail bee steam cream see i knew i can't even

00:30:49.140 see it because you're blurry okay i knew because i these things stick with me i saw your list

00:30:53.640 yeah in the email i was like oh kate was seduced by the well the snail bee snail bee does make a

00:30:58.500 moisturizing sheet mask that i really am into that i think i would turn on that's probably

00:31:02.800 well you know you watch her right yep you watch no i don't watch her but i've read like you've

00:31:10.500 seen google doc right the whole thing it started so she's a beautiful columnist and she's basically

00:31:16.880 a strategist columnist at this point or they oh yeah no she wrote a book i'm saying it's this

00:31:20.940 she wrote a brook she wow she wrote a book on skincare and um every now and then i'll look at

00:31:30.240 her instagram and um be floored by the beauty and the skin and the and the brows and all of it and 1.00

00:31:36.340 i'll go get me what you have what do i do i look in the mirror and i go you're fucked 0.97

00:31:41.340 um i'm sorry this just reminds me genius okay a partner nancherla okay yeah this joke about just 0.98

00:31:51.800 you know walk i i'm gonna get it wrong so you have to go to the source but just this sort of

00:31:55.980 i don't know walk maybe like walking down the street like feeling pretty good about yourself

00:31:59.680 or something and then just like in new york and you see these like you know just gorgeous people

00:32:05.660 in new york that just walk down the street like summer models plenty aren't whatever and just

00:32:10.280 being like i have nothing i love that yes genius no it's true it's true like that savage sort of

00:32:22.020 when you have that savage perspective on yourself you know or given feature on yourself where you're

00:32:27.900 just going no that ain't it you know like like you're a cruel you know modeling uh whatever the 0.99

00:32:37.180 fuck i don't know you're the person standing in the room saying no it's like whatever the 0.99

00:32:40.960 cruelness of which we look at our own bodies no one scrutinizes us the way we scrutinize 0.99

00:32:44.680 ourselves no but they're not the truth i but oh i also want to say i know i'm all over the place

00:32:49.240 today with products but um free people did send us some some goods and they did send us it was on

00:32:54.420 the list the skin spatula did you get it okay i haven't tried it from by the way i'm wearing

00:32:59.320 something also this came from them it's a set oh a set pants too it's a sweater and pants i'm not

00:33:05.220 wearing you always choose like i you know you should start doing just saying i'll just seconding

00:33:10.940 your list yeah or or checking out my list because i do the research so hardcore and then this is

00:33:16.300 from them too and this is changing everything for me because it reminds me of the 80s it reminds me

00:33:21.100 of my mother like or i guess the 90s but i feel like you know how the previous decades always

00:33:26.800 living on in the next one like this this coat this quilting this color well you really know

00:33:33.880 how to shop going out to the bus stop going out going out to the bus stop like you know we always

00:33:40.520 referred to my mother's red sweatpants that like she had these red sweatpants forever just these

00:33:44.900 standard big red what's big red with you oh yeah i'll tell you you're gonna you're gonna love it

00:33:51.700 because it's the best netflix plus seamless so it's food that used to kill me it's food and and

00:34:00.440 so i i ordered from seamless for years and you'd be like big red big red meant meant the best night

00:34:06.480 of my life every night big red i love that jacqueline so i want everyone to know i really

00:34:12.680 turned my life around my new couch arrived and it's changed my life oh my god it's changed my

00:34:17.120 life listen my old couch your old couch my old couch was a west elm floor model that i bought

00:34:22.600 maybe two days before christmas and went come on there was it was like missing a button i was like

00:34:26.420 come on. And I got, I haggled them down. No. Oh yeah. And I got it, baby. I mean,

00:34:32.400 I barely, by the way, I might be fabricating. I think it was just, it was flashed so radically

00:34:38.240 that it felt like I had haggled. And, and the couch was fine for, for, for years, but

00:34:44.120 it never was. Which one was it? Do you remember the model name? Was it the Dunham?

00:34:48.740 No, I don't believe so. It's, it's a very common, if you watch any like,

00:34:52.560 like bad tv show it's like in it okay and um well that ain't nothing to sneeze at yeah yeah

00:35:00.460 but it was it wasn't cozy it wasn't comfy and then I really splurged it was a major adult purchase

00:35:05.780 you know oh my god and um yeah and yeah I of course got a discount thank god due to a dear

00:35:13.640 friend's sister who is also a friend of course got a discount due to her being a designer but

00:35:18.760 the point is the couch isn't sensational and I've been working on it Jacqueline last night I

00:35:25.420 did the impossible I wrote I repeat I wrote last night I I I canceled I didn't cancel oh yeah I

00:35:34.000 canceled I canceled a beloved a social event with beloved friends because I was like I actually have

00:35:39.760 to work and I sat down amazing I wrote on my couch couldn't believe it and then I started to

00:35:47.140 watch tv on the couch and i only the bed i ended up working in bed so often because i want to remain

00:35:52.180 and by work i mean watch things send off some emails perhaps but i because i want that coziness

00:35:58.780 and now i have it in my living room and i need to throw i need to throw sleep hygiene will take on

00:36:04.720 new levels oh my god i need to throw a blanket and i want some like fun pillows but it's

00:36:08.500 i have to say it's it's a huge upgrade and um i'm in the market for a throw as well

00:36:14.600 throw i think throws are um a good throw will set you back

00:36:20.040 but you know when throws really go on sale christmas time oh you mean like right after

00:36:26.060 not even before i mean thank god the brands have realized we will not wait

00:36:31.660 like give us the deals from thanksgiving on you know it's just that's what it is and you better

00:36:37.240 keep out doing yourself because like right now so you know how i used to like joke that i wanted

00:36:41.260 Instagram to be all ads like how could I block out all the content of my friends and instead just

00:36:45.660 you know similarly my very fancy email system which I pay which is what many have called paying

00:36:53.660 to use Gmail okay because it's Gmail based but it's called superhuman you have this like executive

00:36:59.700 email system but it's like executive in kind of a 3.0 kind of way because it's not I use Google

00:37:08.320 drive fully as like a word processor right like that's yeah that's what i'm safe that's totally

00:37:13.320 i had this image because again i have such a magical thinking when it comes to technology

00:37:16.800 and sometimes i feel like i'm interacting with a spiritual building that will like suddenly cross

00:37:20.320 me and be like no more and so i'm making all these i'm writing in the google docs i'm like what if

00:37:25.760 like what i've put i've put everything into into the internet including myself and my access to

00:37:31.240 myself and reality and now also this you know but i'm like it's safe some of your work it's safe in

00:37:37.380 there i mean and i pay for that i pay for google drive i pay for the whatever okay yeah okay wait

00:37:44.680 wait okay we got we gotta interrupt we gotta go to break we gotta go to break all right we have

00:37:49.220 to stop for one second and go to break but we're starting immediately we're not gonna pause

00:37:52.340 this is rider strong and i have a new podcast called the red weather it was many and many a

00:38:01.880 year ago in a kingdom by the sea in 1995 my neighbor anna trainer disappeared from a commune

00:38:08.620 it was hard to wrap your head around it was nature and trees and praying and drugs no i am not your

00:38:15.620 guru and back then i lied to my parents i lied to police i lied to everybody there were years

00:38:23.260 right where i could not say your name i've decided to go back to my hometown in northern california

00:38:27.840 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists, whomever I can to try to find out

00:38:32.700 what actually happened. Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods

00:38:37.040 and not the obvious boyfriend? They have had this case for 30 years. I'll teach you sons of

00:38:42.700 come around here and my wife. Boom, boom. This is The Red Weather. Listen to The Red Weather 1.00

00:38:50.180 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:38:57.840 coolest cat in country music. He is edgy. He's fun. He is Chase Matthew. Keith Urban helped make

00:39:04.020 him a global sensation last year, but it's his recent number one hit Darling to put Chase on

00:39:08.520 the map and launched a fun and difficult conversation about lovers who cheat and lie.

00:39:14.140 That's why I'm scared to get married. You're giving me trust issues, brother.

00:39:17.040 Crook and Chase Nashville chats with Chase Matthew. Listen and subscribe on the iHeartRadio app,

00:39:21.900 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

00:39:24.820 hello it's me anna sinfield from the girlfriends the number one hit true crime show that puts

00:39:32.740 women right in the center of their own stories i'm back with more one-off interviews with some

00:39:39.100 truly kick-ass women on the girlfriends spotlight i want to introduce you to sylvia i'm going to 1.00

00:39:46.660 And then there's Fisaka. 0.81

00:39:54.420 Leila dared to ask the question.

00:39:58.940 And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.

00:40:06.660 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,

00:40:08.580 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.

00:40:11.620 I'm not too intimidated by her.

00:40:13.020 What are you talking about? 1.00

00:40:14.000 Listen to the Girlfriend Spotlight on the iHeartRadio app, 1.00

00:40:19.380 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:40:26.800 And we're back. We're back in.

00:40:32.360 Okay, and we're back.

00:40:33.300 I saw I got a window into your Dropbox today

00:40:35.880 when you screenshotted an issue.

00:40:37.860 Oh, yeah.

00:40:38.420 Old terabyte folder. 0.99

00:40:39.780 I mean, mine's a shit show, too. 0.99

00:40:40.820 You know, it is what it is. 1.00

00:40:42.340 Oh, yeah.

00:40:42.740 wait but why did i bring up the email superhuman because it was oh oh it was just that

00:40:48.440 throws at this time of year being on sale and and give us the deals now right and i feel like that's

00:40:53.800 just the expectation like and so now it's like cyber monday or like they're like black friday

00:40:58.040 early and then they're like black friday and then they're like you know cyber monday is here and

00:41:01.780 then like tuesday they're like did you miss out yesterday because don't worry we got you

00:41:04.960 and now i expect every day until christmas a minimum okay like emails with them trying to

00:41:11.780 outdo themselves so i've been going straight into the my email separates out all promotions all you 0.95

00:41:18.380 know that kind of shit i've been running to that folder to the like essentially running to my junk 0.97

00:41:22.700 folder holy damn and scrolling through and looking at the deals by the way i just want to say 0.99

00:41:28.140 how dare a company on black friday send out an email i don't think i've ever seen it who can do 0.98

00:41:33.940 it have you seen this check out our new couch you want to know what i'm excited about literally i

00:41:37.880 I want to ask you for help.

00:41:40.200 I have to get some, I have to, you know, I'm figuring out Christmas presents.

00:41:43.120 I thought I would do something really, I think I might get my parents a new TV for Christmas.

00:41:48.460 By the way, my parents' TV, my parents' television is.

00:41:52.780 That's exciting.

00:41:53.380 I was there the other night.

00:41:54.740 By the way, literally the three of us in bed.

00:41:58.080 By the way, my sweet father, my 80-year-old father, you should have seen his face when 0.97

00:42:02.560 I told him there was a new sex in the city. 0.96

00:42:04.220 It lit up. 0.87

00:42:05.760 Yeah.

00:42:05.920 my father god bless him no loved sex in the city and it was actually i think really important for

00:42:11.860 man to model that for me did he know he was like it's great storytelling or he was like he was like 0.55

00:42:15.820 it's great you know like loved it laughing at like my father laughing at samantha right like

00:42:21.620 it was really profound and um yes it really was and so yes you know he lit up um but the point 0.96

00:42:31.480 being i was watching it with my parents in bed and i was like how the fuck my father who's 0.97

00:42:36.460 incredibly hard of hearing and i was having trouble making out the dialogue like this their 0.99

00:42:41.500 sound system is psychotic the score of the show is louder than the narrative the characters are

00:42:47.380 saying and then they my mom turns on closed captioning for him and the closed captioning

00:42:52.980 looks like it's written in real time from a computer and yeah like the first computer like

00:42:57.060 it's just and the color is off and this is the best part truly bad the msnbc breaking news

00:43:03.840 ticker headline is burned into the screen because my like i i come to my parents house and i hear

00:43:10.940 rachel maddow screaming from like two blocks away like i'm like can you turn down msnbc

00:43:18.300 so you mean it's literally because that's the thing you hear about fox like you know like people

00:43:25.240 oh i haven't heard that i heard that it was like an early thing that everyone was watching it so

00:43:30.360 much that the heart was like burned in no it's beautiful it makes me cry so sweet no my parents

00:43:35.300 have msnbc breaking you can see breaking news god the heart burned in like like kind of burned in

00:43:41.000 there it's such a that's so sweet no but it's it's also like shocking because you're like

00:43:48.600 they're bulbs in there pixels are light bulbs that are like no like i'm like i thought tv's

00:43:53.140 real there's literal elves back there like i always think like i like to think about little

00:43:58.200 little elves in there doing like they're holding up the lights like they're sweating

00:44:01.700 okay yeah so anyway so i was i was getting it's beautiful yeah sweating because they love

00:44:08.700 entertainment they believe in entertainment they know how do you live like this you know because

00:44:12.040 my mom she watches tv they're watching tv every night i mean you know is anyone else in this 0.90

00:44:16.940 goddamn country in this world and so and at the time the technology advances so quickly that 0.86

00:44:22.960 a really fancy tv i don't know eight years ago was like no it was really expensive 0.99

00:44:28.760 it was like a huge investment but now oh i was looking at the wider bed yeah yeah and they go

00:44:34.260 oh this tv's incredible 600 bucks and i thought you know what yeah i'm grown up imagine the feeling

00:44:42.940 of going hey folks yeah i got you a new tv and a sonos soundbar that's the real high ticket item

00:44:51.540 right that's the one that costs but i'm like oh there's any chance right like i mean they gave me

00:44:57.340 life do it what am i gonna do it's a joy i think oh my god no it's a joy i think i'm gonna do it

00:45:04.520 so i need i need to do the right research and also i'm gonna need to hire someone to install

00:45:08.240 it of course because i won't be able to do that yeah and you don't want to put that on them now

00:45:15.820 i i've gotten my parents i also got them i got them first i got them a roku a couple i got them

00:45:19.940 Chromecast which apparently is easier to work than Apple TV apparently Apple TV I did the

00:45:26.500 research here Fonks and it was again and by research I mean that I just do whatever the

00:45:30.780 Wirecutter tells me to do which is like a strategist technology website yeah it's really

00:45:35.740 helpful but they told me they were like oh my god Wirecutter be furious to hear you say that

00:45:43.180 I love it no because like they clearly their New York Times website solves in my opinion my

00:45:48.480 my narrative is they saw the success exactly they saw the success of new york magazines

00:45:53.460 no but they are a strategist company and they were like we need that okay wire cutter

00:45:58.520 no new york times oh my god i didn't know new york magazine i didn't know strategist

00:46:07.160 never heard of it and then apparently cnet you know cnet i knew you wouldn't have but there was

00:46:13.860 a small chance because it's a hideous website the aesthetics would send you away instantly

00:46:18.480 but it's been around forever and I used to look up um in college like video cameras on there and

00:46:23.460 stuff um prosumer video cameras to make films and um and god the way I lusted after this canon with

00:46:31.460 this three three chip situation anyway so and then recently I read that CNET this is this is uh

00:46:38.940 people might scream i don't know pays for like their reviews that used to be like so trustworthy

00:46:45.960 paid for or like or like there's this whole like tmc tlc i can't remember what it's called it's one

00:46:52.360 brand that they're always pushing and it's like owned by them or something there's something

00:46:56.040 disappointing where i've had to run from seeing it but um anyway so it's official i'm gonna i'm

00:47:02.940 gonna do it morning for me and i'm gonna this is the kind of purchase that normally would have me

00:47:07.040 frozen for years or like I'd be like how do I make the right choice but I think it's it's been

00:47:11.100 streamlined you know of course I'll ask around I'll ask some of the tech bros I know it's been

00:47:16.840 streamlined I mean yeah and like the usually with a tv like once it's in your house and you're

00:47:24.840 watching you know you're good I mean the only thing I would say this is always the thing that

00:47:31.020 comes up when i'm standing in best buy or whatever which is it's getting me really excited

00:47:37.000 i mean well you could also like order in a line curbside pickup whatever i mean no i mean i can't

00:47:42.700 haul it i mean you're a strong woman and everything of course depending on what size you're getting um

00:47:49.340 but the only thing they're always like okay this one and i can't remember what it is oled or

00:47:54.920 whatever it's like i forget the specs i'm re-reminded every time i go down this rabbit

00:47:58.960 hole but the thing they always promise is that like like night like when you're looking at like

00:48:05.580 night or blackness right on the screen that it will be deeper because you know how when like

00:48:11.020 there's blackness on the screen like of truly night scene or whatever and you sort of see

00:48:15.700 it's not pure black no you see you see the pixelation you see like you know like you're

00:48:20.780 talking about the elves overworked yeah yeah yeah you see these waves the elves are overworked and

00:48:27.540 it's it's like actually tragic because you know what the elves need to do trying turn off the

00:48:30.800 light bulbs and that's and they're trying to make yeah the blackness with the bulbs you know by 0.60

00:48:39.560 combining color and i believe the true black the the the you know the more expensive thing just

00:48:45.040 absolutely goes to zero zero light to create true blacks and that is the one thing everything else

00:48:51.820 you know frame rate whatever everything else like i've never noticed the only thing i go

00:48:57.440 and when when when the blackness appears on the screen and i can see the pixelation i'm like there

00:49:01.280 it is here's the moment where yeah me not spending another 200 i'll never again i'm like i'll know

00:49:07.080 i've truly arrived when i don't see pixelated darkness damn i'll be screaming i'll stop the

00:49:12.700 movie i'll interrupt the movie look at that that's night i used to have this joke about easy pass not

00:49:18.180 not really but sort of about like it's just basically me slowing like easy pass not being

00:49:24.360 the fast lane okay because i'd slow down and be look at me easy fast so fast yeah yeah do everyone

00:49:32.240 slowing down to enjoy their their speed all right that can be cut no no it's not getting cut it's

00:49:37.400 very funny it's very funny how dare you suggest that it be cut no i don't i don't believe laughs

00:49:43.100 you know are necessarily demonstrative humor what the hell is that i know what is that

00:49:50.100 Oh, that was the honk of a fire truck and I hear police.

00:49:56.000 Are there, am I wrong? 0.92

00:49:58.620 Are there fire women? 1.00

00:50:02.460 Yes. 0.99

00:50:03.880 Have you ever seen one?

00:50:06.160 And it just hit me like a ton of drinks.

00:50:09.060 Well, there are on my show 9-1-1.

00:50:11.360 There are on my show 9-1-1, but they're outnumbered.

00:50:14.960 When I'm watching the truck.

00:50:16.440 Of course. 0.98

00:50:16.940 I've never seen a woman up there.

00:50:18.480 when i was in times square mere months ago seeing broadway plays my life oh now with omicron 1.00

00:50:27.640 whatever times square i saw a couple of times square police women in full faces of foundation 0.94

00:50:36.000 i'm not i'm not kidding you i was like wait those are cops they had full faces of foundation 0.99

00:50:43.800 full blowouts I'm talking about concealer I'm talking about bronzer I'm talking

00:50:50.000 lashes lip color they were completely dressed so much so that I was like

00:50:57.660 are those fake cops I was like those are not like are those like security from stores or something

00:51:03.560 also we were near like I was like these are not it was mystifying and actually couldn't maintain

00:51:09.980 it was extra scary

00:51:12.200 because it was like 1.00

00:51:14.180 they were so bionic

00:51:15.860 that I had the urge to kind of tap one on the shoulder

00:51:18.400 and go

00:51:18.720 you hear me?

00:51:21.240 what?

00:51:22.660 you hear me?

00:51:24.260 yeah no but it was like

00:51:25.860 I was like that's the feature

00:51:27.640 bionic hot cops 0.94

00:51:30.780 I couldn't believe it

00:51:32.660 Times Square cops

00:51:34.320 are there 1.00

00:51:37.460 fire women

00:51:39.120 i mean surely i'm not here i am erasing um the firewood but i've just never when you look in 0.97

00:51:46.960 there when you see all the guys in there in their stirrups or whatever the fuck they're called

00:51:52.900 i've never seen a woman in there stirrups you mean like their gear that they have to like step 0.99

00:52:00.220 into their overalls oh no you mean their suspenders suspenders not stirrups yeah which 1.00

00:52:05.640 Which is a stirrup in its own way.

00:52:07.380 I mean, it lifts something.

00:52:08.700 It holds something.

00:52:09.180 Oh, it lifts.

00:52:10.260 And honey, it holds.

00:52:13.900 Wait, but now I'm just imagining now it's like, because I'm like, okay, well, on my show,

00:52:18.180 they're certainly outnumbered.

00:52:19.560 There's one woman among them.

00:52:22.120 Oh, no, which I still have to watch. 1.00

00:52:23.700 Yeah.

00:52:23.820 Yeah.

00:52:25.060 And so then, yeah, it's like, okay, if there's one on that group, you're seeing mostly the

00:52:30.880 men.

00:52:31.180 The men are stealing the window seat. 1.00

00:52:33.220 the woman's um you know the woman's inside the truck in the crank to make peanut butter and 0.74

00:52:39.320 jelly for the for the boys on the way over or something 1.00

00:52:43.260 well that thing you know that domestic office tasks like inherently fall to women 1.00

00:52:50.920 like there's an expectation that like jan is gonna do the group birthday card oh yeah sure 1.00

00:52:57.580 of course secretarial things like yeah just but it falls on them like you know yeah like even if

00:53:03.240 that's not their position it's sort of oh everyone looks to jan jan no cake this year and it's like

00:53:10.060 yeah why did you know what i mean like that that sense oh my god cake you're reminding me

00:53:15.120 yeah i'm going to uh for christmas i'm gonna pick up this weekend i think actually i told

00:53:19.840 the bakery i'd be by today i have to call them um the tom cruise coconut cake oh my god which

00:53:24.680 It was so incredible.

00:53:26.020 What's the place called again? 1.00

00:53:27.400 Dones, D-O-A-N-S.

00:53:28.680 I knew it was a single syllable kind of. 0.94

00:53:30.780 And this is what's, so they're available.

00:53:32.560 You can't get it delivered locally from the bakery, but they're part of Gold Belly, that

00:53:36.100 like expensive.

00:53:37.100 So you can get this cake delivered to you for a hundred dollars, but I.

00:53:41.340 Or pick it up?

00:53:42.040 For like 32.

00:53:44.360 And then how much does the cake itself cost?

00:53:46.040 No, $32.

00:53:46.980 The cake is $32.

00:53:48.400 Oh, right.

00:53:49.120 So if you're local.

00:53:49.720 So 32 or.

00:53:50.920 A hundred.

00:53:51.640 I just couldn't believe the price difference.

00:53:53.300 I was like, oh my God.

00:53:54.320 practically getting it for free yeah because gold belly i think is really for shipping you know

00:54:00.160 you're paying for this whole service which is like yeah it's a brilliant idea but i love it

00:54:04.960 like oh my favorite restaurant in oh yeah it's brilliant you know across the country like i we

00:54:08.960 could have that in our home oh my god yeah it's a thrill like but here i go here i go i'm gonna

00:54:15.120 drive you know it's gonna be 20 minutes there 20 minutes back you know you love this cake right

00:54:20.320 truly love it. I have to say when I had it, I was floored. It was so fucking good.

00:54:26.000 Tell me about it. Because I don't really know a coconut cake. So it goes around. It's around 0.98

00:54:32.020 a bun cake. Oh, it's bun cake. Okay. Okay. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Coconut, white chocolate.

00:54:40.340 It's just so, there's like white chocolate pieces in it. Is the cake coconut flavored?

00:54:45.920 No, the cake is vanilla. It's just a white cake. A vanilla white cake.

00:54:49.400 Should I look it up?

00:54:49.980 Okay, I don't know.

00:54:50.760 All I know was the impression it left on me, which was heaven.

00:54:54.320 Wait, the what?

00:54:55.000 What?

00:54:55.120 All I know is the impression it left on me, but it was vanilla cake with frosting, coconut

00:54:59.980 shreds all over it.

00:55:02.620 Oh, wow. 1.00

00:55:03.200 I'm looking it up. 0.97

00:55:04.680 Fucking good. 0.95

00:55:05.440 And I'll remind you, it had been frozen for like two weeks, and because I wasn't raised 0.98

00:55:10.120 in a house of freezing, I was like, well, it won't retain the freshness.

00:55:13.760 Oh, it retains the freshness, let me tell you.

00:55:15.440 I had to, okay, so two nights in a row, I ordered fajita platters to my home.

00:55:22.360 Two fajita platters, okay?

00:55:24.600 And it arrives, and there's only one.

00:55:31.220 Uh-oh.

00:55:32.300 The next night, I do it again.

00:55:35.860 Only one.

00:55:36.620 You're kidding.

00:55:38.440 Now, Postmates refunds you instantly, okay?

00:55:41.640 You don't have to prove anything.

00:55:43.720 it's it's so important okay and and I I'm hoping in you know I don't I know they take tons of money

00:55:51.780 from the businesses to utilize them but if something's fucked up you know really I've

00:55:58.280 called the restaurant and said it where are my soups and they're like they're sitting right here

00:56:02.080 yeah okay and they're like anyway the point is you go and think it says get help you click get help

00:56:08.740 you say was there something wrong with your order you say yes and it asks exactly the right questions

00:56:12.700 it's like okay which orders which elements of your order were there issues with and it lists

00:56:16.780 them out you click on it and then it says missing partially missing didn't follow special instructions

00:56:21.700 you click on it and then it's like refund has been issued so you can relax deeply you know yeah that

00:56:28.360 you know that's listen I am I'm not proud of this because I've gone through periods where I

00:56:33.460 absolutely don't use it but you know I have fallen prey to Amazon and um I similarly was shocked by

00:56:39.500 the ease of a customer service experience

00:56:41.320 was something

00:56:42.580 that I had to

00:56:45.340 didn't arrive correctly whatever and

00:56:47.120 the seamlessness of it the speed I was like

00:56:49.160 this is terrifying this level of convenience

00:56:51.000 is so it's like it's

00:56:53.280 just of course it's you know

00:56:55.160 gonna of course it's

00:56:57.320 the most you know evil force

00:56:59.080 like it's just magic

00:57:01.100 doesn't come for free exactly I mean

00:57:03.280 the cost the human cost

00:57:04.980 all of it but I was 0.99

00:57:07.240 like holy shit 0.95

00:57:09.140 that was convenient it really like it was it was it sent a cold chill because it was like nothing 0.92

00:57:16.120 our humanity just cannot our humanity crumbles in the face of that level of convenience like it's

00:57:23.260 just like i don't oh uh like it's we don't have like the neurological capacity to turn away from

00:57:33.100 something like it's too it's too seductive it's too it's magic it's just it's like a lust it's

00:57:39.460 like a primal primal evil like it's like like a physical it's like you know a biological urge

00:57:45.560 or something will always win or whatever is this thing yeah oh oh absolutely lustig no emotion will

00:57:50.460 always win and it's like yeah it's um god we have to wrap up but i just want to say that um

00:58:02.240 um Egyptian magic we've never discussed on the pod we haven't and um I found an old here's the

00:58:09.720 thing I found this tub of it because my friend who actually recommended the Tata Harper

00:58:13.860 loved it so I of course bought it was like oh this is really thick right

00:58:19.200 but I it like ended up in a back drawer and I've been using it and this feels really like

00:58:27.000 wrong because it's like a nice product I've been using it on my hands no it's not wrong

00:58:30.400 a little bit under my eyes and um i thought egyptian magic was was pretty cheap no i don't

00:58:36.000 think so i think like the jar is like i think 40 bucks are you serious the reason i say it is

00:58:41.600 because it's one of those ones egyptian it's like petroleum magic that or it's not petroleum

00:58:45.360 they they sell it in like i feel like because they sell it at ricky's baby really i've never seen it

00:58:51.520 at cvs yeah i've i i've never really used it i feel like maybe i bought it once but it's the

00:58:59.280 the thing where i don't remember what i thought well i found it oh but here's what here's the

00:59:02.620 thing i can't tell if it's gone bad yeah i can't tell if it's gone bad because i was like i'm

00:59:06.900 going to use this because my my thing and this is why ice products i savor them because i'm like

00:59:12.020 you know you're not allowed to open that one until you finish that one yes i'm at least i'm

00:59:17.600 trying to do that because the fear of waste no because it's happening like i just i finished i

00:59:22.680 just finished my goop cleanser and then i just brought i finished my goop moisturizer which one

00:59:27.860 the jar or the goop glow the daily i've been using i like the glow lotion how do you feel

00:59:33.760 about the jar talk to me i love it i find it um clingy in it like there's certain it's not too

00:59:40.180 thick or certain things that aren't necessarily thick but they're it's kind of thick i mean but

00:59:45.300 not in the way it lands on your face but when you scoop it out it feels kind of thick

00:59:49.460 and i gotta say just the packaging pleases me the matte the matte and let me tell you it opens it

00:59:54.820 closes and it's just it's in there it just feels good and I and I it's lovely and listen that

01:00:00.380 moisturizer also has been because it's so it's almost it's like there's no fragrance it's so

01:00:05.640 kind of nothing but it really is good do you know what I mean it's yes there's something in there I

01:00:11.460 can't I'm looking at it going I'm I keep picking you up every day and keep delivering I recently

01:00:16.760 inhaled good like I opened a product I inhaled it and I did like this loud like and Emma my

01:00:23.780 tour manager was like oh does it smell good I was like it smells like nothing yeah I was like so

01:00:27.580 so like happy almost the lack of fragrance feels medicinal and yet and yet but and yet the Tata

01:00:33.680 Harper the spray the flower essence sort of botanical I don't know for the for some reason

01:00:38.760 that that scent which was absolutely mood lifting didn't feel well you know we talk about me running

01:00:48.060 into the Aesop and that's how it's pronounced Aesop. Oh my God. Brand guy. And I said that on

01:00:53.520 Poog. I was like, Oh, I use the Aesop that's in the shower. And then I like ran into the guy who

01:00:57.780 was a Poog listener downstairs at breakfast. He spotted me. He came over, we chatted and then he 0.92

01:01:03.560 came back like 20 minutes later with a bag of Aesop and I'm going to post it. He took, he took

01:01:09.760 me through each product. He's like, since you're on the road a lot. And he's like, I know you deal

01:01:13.880 with some redness around the cheeks. 1.00

01:01:16.600 True Poog listener. 1.00

01:01:17.640 Wow, God bless. 1.00

01:01:19.460 I would love the mouthwash directly to my home.

01:01:22.500 Well, yeah, I do think it's time to reach out,

01:01:24.340 particularly if we post that video.

01:01:25.620 And that, I've been saying Aesop, as we all have.

01:01:29.700 No, as we all have.

01:01:30.580 I think we have to go. 1.00

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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - December 21, 2021

Elves at Work

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