Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - July 23, 2024


Finally, a Medical Issue!

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10,769

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00:02:39.300 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.
00:02:40.780 I'm Jacqueline Novak.
00:02:41.900 And this is Poogh, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.
00:02:46.600 Two untamable intellects.
00:02:48.400 This is our hobby. 0.97
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00:02:52.140 This is Boog.
00:02:53.800 Today's topic, loosely speaking,
00:02:55.620 distension, 1,000 milliliters, classically haunted.
00:03:03.900 Hi, coughing.
00:03:05.820 Wow, coming in coughing is great.
00:03:08.420 Well, it is going to be an exciting episode.
00:03:10.640 I'll say it off the top.
00:03:12.360 I'm in the throes of my first syndrome, which we'll get to.
00:03:18.540 I've already been told, to be clear, if anyone's wondering,
00:03:20.960 Should I just go right into it? 1.00
00:03:25.440 Fuck yeah, dawg. 1.00
00:03:26.120 It's so funny. 1.00
00:03:27.220 Preface it with saying,
00:03:28.080 I'm so sorry.
00:03:28.960 The coughing will stop.
00:03:30.300 Or it won't,
00:03:31.080 but I'll deal with it.
00:03:32.720 I'll preface it with saying,
00:03:33.740 I'm really fine.
00:03:34.860 First of all,
00:03:35.460 your voice is different.
00:03:37.740 Don't say that.
00:03:38.580 It's almost upsetting.
00:03:39.420 Are you serious?
00:03:40.600 No, I don't mean like you're
00:03:42.060 like permanently damaged.
00:03:42.680 Well, it's temporary.
00:03:43.540 It's temporary.
00:03:44.400 Yeah.
00:03:44.700 No, that's what I mean.
00:03:45.540 I mean like,
00:03:46.460 you've been diminished by illness.
00:03:48.420 Yeah.
00:03:49.060 Yeah, I'll preface it
00:03:50.420 All by saying I'm fine.
00:03:53.680 It's funny.
00:03:54.360 I wasn't, I wasn't, at first I thought, I was like, I'm not going to talk about this on Poog for whatever reason.
00:03:58.760 It's a semi-loaded subject.
00:04:00.040 But I did undergo egg freezing as a careerist. 1.00
00:04:05.360 Whore. 0.93
00:04:07.400 I'm also, as I've said, I may not have kids. 0.97
00:04:11.020 I don't know.
00:04:11.500 But I thought, you know, it's something I've struggled with for years.
00:04:15.480 A struggle with for years is too dramatic.
00:04:17.720 It's something I've been like, will I?
00:04:19.200 And then, you know, put a little savings aside.
00:04:23.340 It is, of course, a procedure.
00:04:27.780 Sorry.
00:04:29.420 No, I'm just not interrupting because I'm loving watching you work through like the money element, kind of the loaded like nature of the topic.
00:04:37.000 Like, were you about to say, like, of course, it's a privilege to be able to pay?
00:04:42.380 It is a privilege because it is expensive.
00:04:43.800 and it's also kind of a funny thing to do when you're also not fully sure if you're gonna have
00:04:50.680 kids like if you're like all i want are children yeah it makes more sense but can't do it yet or
00:04:55.940 whatever yeah yeah i'm just like i don't know but you know i've had i had the downtime i was like 0.62
00:05:01.780 i'm just gonna fucking do it and i was very you know already of highly i'm already anxious person 0.59
00:05:05.820 specifically very medically anxious person i had this like amorphous fear that i would do it and 0.91
00:05:10.740 something horrible would happen or like never recover you know it's like these like fears out
00:05:15.020 of just um I was like because there's a choice to be made like do it should I or should I not do
00:05:20.100 this you can't help but think like that it's a fork in the road yeah and that one choice is and
00:05:25.640 like the hormone element is like scary to me and of course people like it's this thing and I 0.99
00:05:30.380 understand people like don't know what the fuck they're talking about and they say crazy shit to 0.96
00:05:33.440 you like you know or it's like like someone like a dear friend is like we say a dear friend was 0.99
00:05:39.700 like yeah you might want to talk to my friend she said like freezing your eggs like increases your
00:05:44.320 chances of cancer by 40 percent like and apparently it's true yeah 40 literally and I was like
00:05:50.000 and then she said apparently it's true oh like my friend said this and apparently it's true and I
00:05:55.300 was like well that fucking can't be true and like of course it's not so it's like apparently it's 0.54
00:06:00.620 true is funny because we say that a lot like people say that right and like what does it mean 0.93
00:06:05.220 it means like it's apparent like so it's like and we like regularly say that it's like literally
00:06:10.600 like we regularly say it almost to mean the opposite of that yeah yeah totally apparent
00:06:14.800 must mean appearing right yeah it appears to be true and so i was like what okay so you know and
00:06:22.020 it's not true and of course it's like whatever there's a million it's a very it's a loaded
00:06:26.420 topic for a million reasons and i sort of was like i could see myself not doing it because of
00:06:31.380 some amorphous medical fear that i'll do it it'll trigger some again this is all made up it'll
00:06:36.580 trigger some crazy autoimmune response i'll never be the same and i'll go why did i do you know 0.95
00:06:40.900 so all these fears and then i kind of in the spirit of like fuck it or something like just do 0.96
00:06:45.640 it and i you know it's aligned with a doctor oh i'm so sorry you were aligned with a doctor 0.98
00:06:52.100 aligned with a doctor funny way that's a new way with a doctor is that something that people say
00:06:56.860 in Los Angeles.
00:06:58.540 No, no, no.
00:06:59.900 That's so funny.
00:07:01.340 I don't know.
00:07:01.680 I went with this doc
00:07:02.500 who I was like,
00:07:03.360 okay, like some like,
00:07:04.540 you know.
00:07:04.980 Even went with,
00:07:05.740 let's just take a minute
00:07:06.400 second with it, right?
00:07:07.520 Yeah, went with.
00:07:08.500 Went with.
00:07:08.840 Because I shopped around.
00:07:09.740 Nine were on.
00:07:11.660 I talked to exactly two.
00:07:13.060 I auditioned six.
00:07:14.800 Yeah.
00:07:15.440 Five were brought back
00:07:16.380 for the call,
00:07:17.160 for the house call.
00:07:17.620 Well, I guess I say
00:07:18.700 aligned with because
00:07:19.460 I got in,
00:07:20.980 if you know what I mean.
00:07:22.060 You know?
00:07:22.700 Yeah.
00:07:24.020 Like it wasn't guaranteed
00:07:25.240 that they were going to
00:07:26.040 take on your case yeah really booked up really booked up and by the way it's so funny too because
00:07:31.800 as soon as i was like okay i'm doing it you know going buying like prenatal vitamins like already
00:07:36.820 treating myself like i'm pregnant like anyway so i go and did you when you bought the prenatal
00:07:42.920 vitamins like place them down on the counter and then like check the gaze of the person behind the
00:07:48.380 the thing where you kind of just know it felt really yeah yeah i was like i was like prenatal
00:07:53.000 vitamins vitamin d coq10 yeah yeah broth and i i will say i was walking the aisles kind of like
00:08:01.500 i'm different now with my basket just weight distributed slightly differently
00:08:04.960 i was like i have kids wait um but i work nights um
00:08:11.600 yeah yeah so and by the way i'll say when i first went to the doctor's office
00:08:18.420 joke from a million years ago i have a daughter yeah well you know what's something that's crazy
00:08:24.360 that's emerged through all this i mean i couldn't vote or whatever i couldn't vote i have a daughter
00:08:28.820 remember oh i don't god i love that you remember my act more than i do yeah that's funny yeah you're
00:08:35.660 okay um something that's emerged from this i no longer have an abject fear of having a son
00:08:41.940 is that interesting
00:08:43.540 well wait tell me what never heard about this never heard of having a son oh you're joking
00:08:55.100 i am not joking well because i've always i've always been like daughter daughter only i mean
00:09:00.140 you always say my daughter you know and that's just like i always think you're one talking about
00:09:05.100 me you know and then I am but and you're just like not visualizing a son but you know you don't have
00:09:12.500 to who cares right no I've had like son baggage I've had like oh god have a son like I've had
00:09:19.300 the whole like like what is it actually I don't know how to raise that yeah yeah it's a little
00:09:27.460 bit that it's a little bit like but but it's just dissolved it wasn't even like intellectually I
00:09:33.180 came to some new conclusion it just like changed okay whatever but you don't want to speak about
00:09:37.320 why it was loaded okay that's fine like you know i think because like i have i know i have a weird 0.90
00:09:43.920 thing and i'm not proud of it it's like like little boys are like pathetic to me or something
00:09:49.020 i can't describe it i'm like get it together like it's like a weird thing like i don't like like
00:09:53.500 women fawning over like little boys something about it i just i've always been like oh god
00:09:57.920 yeah and like women like mother relationship with the son classically haunted classically haunted
00:10:05.800 it's like i don't i've always just been like i don't want to like enter into that dynamic i don't
00:10:11.320 know but i realize now i was a fool the medicine you need a son the medicine and of course and i'm
00:10:18.160 only going to feel uh heal the father wound through the son um but um i don't know but
00:10:24.020 here's all to say
00:10:25.400 the process
00:10:26.680 which I've been dreading
00:10:27.620 of the injections
00:10:28.200 because you're giving yourself
00:10:29.060 some days
00:10:29.980 up to three injections
00:10:31.200 in the abdomen
00:10:31.860 and I always thought
00:10:33.280 I would have to have someone else
00:10:34.160 I did them all myself
00:10:35.240 like
00:10:35.940 I mean
00:10:36.980 I have a loving
00:10:37.560 supportive partner
00:10:38.720 which is part of the reason
00:10:39.480 I was even
00:10:40.000 like
00:10:40.580 wanting to do this
00:10:41.920 you were even able to support yourself
00:10:42.820 yeah
00:10:43.320 I needed that anchor
00:10:44.460 but it's true
00:10:45.240 and like
00:10:46.380 anyway so
00:10:47.680 I mean I actually know
00:10:48.600 that you could do it
00:10:49.420 to be clear
00:10:50.080 alone in the bottom of a
00:10:51.740 you know
00:10:52.280 a cave
00:10:52.880 I love you
00:10:53.600 And Jacqueline was with Jacqueline was with me the first night of injections or second night.
00:10:58.140 Yeah, no, no, sorry. It was one of the first things I had to mix something. And I'll say this,
00:11:02.260 this I'll say for people considering this, the fear of the injections and the discomfort,
00:11:07.160 the injections themselves are fine. I had a lot of hell around. There's a couple you have to mix
00:11:12.460 where it's like you're pulling a needle out and you're like, how the fuck am I expected to do 0.98
00:11:17.480 this? Well, I recall like being like, it's not intravenous. Like, so you don't have to be that 0.79
00:11:21.960 worried about the bubbles. Yeah. Cause there's bubbles. I was like, it's subcutaneous. It's
00:11:25.600 scary. Um, but all of that was really fine. I I'll say I barely had any like mood reaction
00:11:31.740 whatsoever to the hormones. Like I really kind of was myself the last couple of days I was like
00:11:35.840 bloated and in pain because, well, here's the thing. So what I have is ovarian hyperstimulation
00:11:41.520 syndrome. I have a mild case, which is still, I kind of can't believe this is mild, but it is,
00:11:47.280 but it's um not to be a bitch but it's something that tends to happen when you have a lot of eggs
00:11:53.540 it is um it's like punishment for the fertile and so I was like very I had no idea my egg count or
00:12:04.100 anything but I was kind of surprised or just learning going in like oh I'm already kind of
00:12:10.200 batting a high average yeah and then and my doctor part of the reason I went with her she's
00:12:15.940 very conservative with hormones she didn't put me on birth control she didn't you know so I was
00:12:19.720 like okay she's not going to just pump me full of hormones whatever did you tell me the thing 0.89
00:12:23.600 about the birth control they do it so they can plan their vacations yeah well literally because
00:12:27.160 because oh literally because I went talk to someone very reputable doctor who's going to
00:12:31.320 put me on birth control and I brought this up with my current doctor and she was like yeah you
00:12:35.140 know why they do that and I said why she's like because they want to plan the retrievals they 0.69
00:12:39.680 don't want to work on weekends they don't want to like i was like holy shit so anyway so i kind 0.55
00:12:47.580 of was like i'm in the clear i'll say the last couple days i was very uncomfortable because i 0.98
00:12:51.180 was fucking walking around with like buckets of eggs and it's like driving in a car was 0.94
00:12:56.580 uncomfortable i was like yelping how big are they like i was like what's going on i really tried to 0.99
00:13:01.560 refrain it said like barely visible by the human eye so i was like okay well it's the ovaries that
00:13:06.980 are so big. I'm not, I'm not, I just wanted a visual. No, totally. No, no, the eggs themselves,
00:13:12.040 barely visible. No, the eggs, the eggs themselves, the follicles, but the ovaries, whatever. So
00:13:17.860 I was uncomfortable. I only had one kind of micro meltdown. My estrogen of course was through the
00:13:23.180 roof. And like there was one night I kind of had a micro meltdown because the other thing with the
00:13:27.540 shots is you have to do that at exactly the same time every night. And then there was this one
00:13:31.140 shot called the trigger shot, terrifying trigger shot, which you have to do exactly 36 hours before 0.98
00:13:36.420 your retrieval like to the minute and did that math like fuck you up for a while were you like
00:13:42.400 36 well no thank god minus 30 they're telling you everything obviously like you're not up to your 0.82
00:13:47.740 but it's this stuff where it's like okay here's the shot and it comes in this package and then
00:13:52.000 it's like the packaging is confused i'm like wait do i take this off and it's like do not take this
00:13:56.420 off if you do the you know plunger will lock and you will not get them like it was just so terrifying
00:14:00.840 and i had like five minutes and thank god i called the hotline and got someone but i was like
00:14:06.160 shaking my teeth were chattering I was so stressed out and afraid that I was like which I've had I've
00:14:13.400 had a couple times in my life yeah but like like yeah involuntary shaking remember when that's
00:14:18.660 happened to me and like doing doing the shot as I'm like involuntarily shaking that's wild yeah
00:14:23.440 it was just so intense huge shout out I've been so lucky because also shout out to Meredith I love
00:14:32.420 you who I've been harassing, texting her all hours of the night. Thank God. I don't know what I would
00:14:38.820 have done without just constantly like, Oh God, like, can I cross my legs? Like, cause there's
00:14:42.820 all this stuff you can't twist your ovaries. You can't, all you can do is walk. Like you really
00:14:46.380 can't exercise. You can't take baths, which is devastating. Um, I'm all over the place, but
00:14:53.520 listen. So the point is I was kind of like, okay, I'm doing well. Retrieval was the day before my
00:14:58.880 birthday which of course I was like well cosmically that makes sense um it's very you
00:15:04.180 you have to go under which is like scary in that I know yeah it's very what you to like sort of like
00:15:10.320 require meaning around that yeah no I had to so needless to say for like the two weeks basically
00:15:18.200 of injections you're not you're living a very simple life you're not having a cocktail you're
00:15:23.120 having a one milligram gummy um but so i uh day of the retrieval you know they put you under which
00:15:32.480 i've only been under for my wisdom teeth have you been under i think once for something i think i
00:15:37.480 was half under for my wisdom yeah and i was nervous going in and it is the thing of like
00:15:43.140 the joke where they come in and they're like okay we're gonna relax you i was very nervous sweating
00:15:49.280 and I was like saying to everyone I was like I'm very nervous you know I'm very nervous and
00:15:52.600 and like the anesthesiologist comes in I'm like you know like he looked like Griffin Dunn no you
00:15:58.120 know yeah we're like he's like not down to chat because they're moving like they got to move like
00:16:02.640 he was lovely but in a big room or a small room so they prep you it looks like um whatever like
00:16:09.340 when you're prepped and you're in your gown it's like there's just curtains dividing you it's like
00:16:13.920 a factory yeah yeah yeah like there was one other woman who and here's what was wild as I heard her
00:16:18.860 being prepped. And then I was waiting long enough to come back after. Yeah. Essentially the same 1.00
00:16:24.440 thing. And she was like, wow, like I feel great. Like, and I was like, okay, cool. So did they
00:16:30.200 give you blue socks? Yeah. They gave me booties that I wore over my socks. Fuck no. But they said,
00:16:36.960 you know, they're like, when you come in, like no products, no face products, no makeup, no lotions,
00:16:40.600 like nothing. Cause the OR has to be like sterile anyway. So it did happen where I go in and I just
00:16:46.660 was there and he was like okay we're gonna give you something I was like I'm very nervous he's
00:16:50.080 like we're gonna give you something to relax you'll feel it in a couple seconds oh my like
00:16:54.400 instantly I'm like whoa wow and then I asked to hold someone's hand so weird nurse held my hand
00:17:02.000 and then what's funny is I remember it really helped what I remember I actually had a flashback
00:17:07.060 I would hate it I'd be like oh I was like that would be like make me uncomfortable yeah I really
00:17:11.440 wanted to hold someone's hand and then I actually days later because I was watching something on TV
00:17:16.120 where there was a surgery
00:17:16.840 recalled him saying
00:17:18.000 I'm going to give you oxygen
00:17:18.940 but I didn't remember
00:17:20.160 at the time
00:17:20.600 but the point is
00:17:21.600 you know I came out
00:17:22.580 and it was like
00:17:23.120 it's done
00:17:23.620 and here's what's
00:17:24.440 the funniest thing
00:17:25.260 that has maybe
00:17:26.100 ever happened to me
00:17:26.860 so
00:17:27.080 and my reaction
00:17:28.700 will be diminished
00:17:29.220 because I'm realizing
00:17:29.820 I've heard this
00:17:30.420 I know I'm sorry
00:17:31.220 I'm sorry
00:17:31.560 no I can't fake
00:17:32.300 I can't fake
00:17:32.960 it's as fresh
00:17:33.680 you know
00:17:34.100 it's not for you
00:17:34.740 you already know
00:17:35.580 of course you
00:17:36.220 whatever
00:17:36.700 yeah
00:17:37.040 so anesthesia
00:17:38.480 I'm coming out
00:17:40.020 and by the way
00:17:40.560 wait wait
00:17:41.080 sorry
00:17:41.520 yeah
00:17:42.080 so it was like
00:17:42.720 you're going to feel
00:17:43.180 this in a minute
00:17:43.620 and like I'm giving you
00:17:44.280 some oxygen
00:17:44.860 like you did great yeah literally it's like immediate unimaginable just immediate great
00:17:51.460 you did great oh wow they wheel me back they go great job I open my eyes and I go
00:17:58.160 i'm gay
00:18:01.200 so then the nurse there's like a nurse maybe two and they're like oh like okay like and then and
00:18:23.060 then and then I go you're all amazing and then I remember saying this is a privilege no no no this
00:18:29.200 is a privilege what do you think that was coming out of the this is a privilege that was coming 0.63
00:18:36.780 out of my guilt of like doing this as like a rich bitch thing and to them specifically were you like 1.00
00:18:41.900 I'm imagining that you were feeling like these nurses can't afford this shit on a nurse's salary 1.00
00:18:48.220 they're hating me and I better scream about how I'm aware or or I might get um Eddie Redmayne 0.99
00:18:55.400 yeah yeah it's just it was Eddie Redmayne you know the good nurse oh the good nurse yeah no
00:19:01.620 the nurses everyone was so lovely like like but yeah I don't know exactly what it was but I also
00:19:06.240 was feeling that truly like there was a privilege thing because I have that's why like I was like
00:19:11.260 this is outrageous that I can do this like science is shocking like my mother couldn't do this my
00:19:16.100 grandmother you know i just like this is fucking cool like now i'm like full science go like 0.96
00:19:20.520 everyone's you know like surrogates or whatever i'm like yeah who fucking cares freeze my egg 0.96
00:19:24.880 putting a surrogate bail on the treadmill yeah you know like i don't know i'm sort of like you 0.90
00:19:29.080 start out you start out like a career of stairmaster use like you just like you just
00:19:34.260 you're sorry you're like both legs and a stairmaster follow up with a treadmill
00:19:38.120 for just direct unidirectional uh hammering of the same muscle groups 0.95
00:19:43.060 the dream of the 90s so but wait so i come out i go i'm gay and then and then i start laughing
00:19:50.740 you do a couple more i start laughing because i was like if you can remember like it's it's very 0.76
00:19:55.400 kind of cloudy right right but you know you said it but i'm not fucking i'm not exaggerating i just 0.85
00:20:01.260 wonder if you were loud basically like the first thing loud no i just like like even worse than i 0.84
00:20:06.220 think then i went well you know what i mean like yeah i don't know it was just kind of like a
00:20:11.300 conversation yeah and then and then what's even worse and then and then this is again right no no
00:20:16.820 and then i said something like well you know i'm maybe fluid so sad no no no yeah what's even worse
00:20:22.520 researching their eyes searching their eyes for like for uh yeah no no but hey hey here's what's
00:20:30.840 funny i i held back saying like i think josh hartnett's gorgeous because i had you thought
00:20:36.420 about it yeah i thought about saying it something like but hey if josh hartnett walked in here
00:20:40.440 I mean, no one's immune.
00:20:43.480 Can you believe it? 1.00
00:20:45.000 So pathetic. 1.00
00:20:45.980 So anyway, so then. 0.99
00:20:47.540 Right.
00:20:47.660 You remember the joke in the chamber?
00:20:49.980 I was starting to become conscious enough to have something in the chamber and say, don't let it out.
00:20:54.860 So then my doctor came in and she was like, we did great.
00:20:58.900 My doctor.
00:20:59.580 The way Kate Berlant says my doctor is so specific.
00:21:03.320 Really?
00:21:03.920 What do you mean?
00:21:04.320 You just love the word doctor.
00:21:05.880 I love a doctor.
00:21:07.160 All right.
00:21:07.380 Yeah, there it is.
00:21:07.980 My doctors.
00:21:08.540 um so so and then she came in and she was like we did great like you know she's giving me some stats
00:21:15.100 and then I go I'm gay to her and okay so again so she's coming in now I say it again to her
00:21:24.400 she goes just kind of like nice smile she goes I know you know she's met my partner like she knows
00:21:31.580 my life like I love like the like she's like I know I love how doctors like when you have that
00:21:38.000 moment where you're like oh they're doing this all day i'm not the first like oh sort of like
00:21:43.320 it's human it's it's simultaneously comforting and also well it's just but no it's it's ultimately
00:21:50.460 comforting it's like no they're just they are doing these this is getting your your your oil
00:21:55.820 change. Yeah.
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00:25:30.440 I was apparently more sensitive to the anesthesia,
00:25:40.120 meaning I was groggier, longer, whatever.
00:25:42.580 So I'll just say that, what?
00:25:45.320 I said you would be.
00:25:48.020 And they gave me the tiniest dose of anesthesia,
00:25:51.760 just the tiniest half dose.
00:25:54.220 I still felt it through the room.
00:25:55.220 No, then they go, so are you in pain?
00:25:57.300 And I was like, I did have like cramps,
00:25:59.340 nothing severe but it was like uncomfortable I was like yeah it hurts they're like okay well
00:26:04.020 we'll give you um some fentanyl and I go whoa whoa I go fentanyl so she goes it's just a little
00:26:10.920 amount and I go I don't know I don't know I was like I'm very I was like I really don't take like
00:26:15.300 pain medication like that just makes me nervous the start of course whatever you want and then I
00:26:19.700 was like is that common do most people do it she would say I would over she's like I would say over
00:26:23.460 90% of people take it and I go okay she goes you know if you're not if you're not and then I go
00:26:28.960 and I start reasoning with her I'm like yeah I mean if I don't why would I be in pain if I don't
00:26:32.480 have to be and then I kind of don't know and then the doctor kind of comes in and is like
00:26:36.800 are you in pain whatever the fentanyl discussion and I go you know fentanyl is just kind of scary
00:26:41.400 and she goes this is good fentanyl or she didn't say that but she said something she didn't say
00:26:45.080 this is good fentanyl but she was like sure but like this is a hospital you know she's like yeah
00:26:49.060 this isn't and I go hey hey I know you've got top shelf fentanyl I hear nurses laughing in the
00:26:53.880 background. Killing in the recovery room. Then you realize, by the way, every joke that had failed
00:27:00.480 already. You thought they were laughing because they were being professional? No, no, no. It's
00:27:06.420 because I wasn't firing. God, that stuff. Yeah. So then I go, hell yeah, give it to me. She gives
00:27:12.780 it to me. Pain's relieved, but I'm not high. It's a small amount, whatever. Eventually I go.
00:27:18.380 so here's I'll say the beginning of kind of like what became shitty for me was that you know they
00:27:24.580 want you to pee before you leave because the anesthesia slows down I mean it's terrifying
00:27:27.960 anesthesia like paralyzes basically your whole body essentially right so you're all you're
00:27:30.980 functioning like stops so it slows down you're like so people they want you to pee before you
00:27:38.220 leave and I'm already super pee shy to the point that like yeah and Jacqueline has incredible
00:27:44.520 you told that story on food
00:27:46.840 you might have to do it
00:27:48.480 I think you're gonna have to do it again
00:27:49.280 because you comforted me with this
00:27:50.800 but I'm already pee shy
00:27:53.020 there was like years and years ago
00:27:55.120 I was on the medication
00:27:55.880 I had to take like these pee tests
00:27:57.420 urine tests 0.87
00:27:58.580 I'd be like hanging out
00:27:59.600 at the doctor's appointment for hours
00:28:00.660 like in the hallway
00:28:01.560 like still here
00:28:02.300 downing water
00:28:03.100 couldn't do it
00:28:03.680 because of the pressure
00:28:04.740 so I'm there at the hospital
00:28:07.240 I'm like
00:28:07.560 I can't pee
00:28:09.460 but I'm very pee shy
00:28:10.420 and they're like
00:28:11.240 okay we're gonna let you go
00:28:12.480 get home
00:28:13.360 feeling okay I start down thinking and obsessing about the peeing at this point no no I'm not even
00:28:20.720 really thinking about it because also you know you can't have liquids or anything for a long time
00:28:25.600 before the surgery so I had I was like I don't even have that much fluid in me I peed before
00:28:29.720 the surgery like whatever so I'm home I start downing electrolytes so I'm drinking out of my
00:28:35.540 out of my sippy cup I've got I've got you can hear her right there I've got um electrolytes
00:28:42.920 I'm drinking broth, okay?
00:28:45.440 And I go, I'm just going to force the fluids.
00:28:47.880 So after drinking quite a lot, I go,
00:28:50.420 well, I'm going to go try to pee now.
00:28:53.960 I am so, it's like the urge to pee suddenly is like, oh my God.
00:28:59.700 Because I'm realizing, oh, I just downed like two liters of water easily.
00:29:02.740 And you're feeling, are you feeling the pee, the full bladder pressure?
00:29:05.960 Desperate to pee.
00:29:06.940 Desperate to pee.
00:29:08.020 Oh, God.
00:29:08.720 And I cannot pee.
00:29:10.220 Almost like I can barely even take it.
00:29:11.700 it's it's deeply anxiety provoking and i was like okay okay so i start i'm like kate relax i start
00:29:17.440 talking to myself i'm like you're okay you're okay all you gotta do is pee it's fine everything
00:29:21.800 went well you're fine just relax nothing imagine having to pee like you're on a road trip you're
00:29:28.160 dying you have to pee so bad and you're sitting on a toilet you can't be i mean it was like
00:29:31.500 i get in the shower i'm like warm water i'm like just piss in the shower no it's yeah it's so
00:29:36.980 upsetting nothing and i'm like uh and are you just thinking about like what is peeing like you know
00:29:43.640 like okay no i started it's a relaxing of the muscle yeah i go to youtube i get a peeing
00:29:49.180 meditation yeah i'm listening to a peeing meditation like yeah thing i'm like okay so
00:29:54.900 then i basically talked to my doctor and it's like it's been it had been eight hours because 0.94
00:29:59.600 of before surgery shit and she was like you have to come in right now so then i have to drive across 0.94
00:30:04.200 town like a bouncing I am it is the most uncomfortable experience I've ever had I'm 0.98
00:30:12.220 thank god god Naomi couldn't have done it without without my loving partner also like
00:30:17.520 they're able to still make me laugh and I'm like screaming like stop making me laugh because it
00:30:21.480 hurts so bad but it's really sweet I'm pounding a courage bagel shout out they got me because I was
00:30:26.620 like what do you want after surgery I was like pastrami salmon courage bagel I down a courage
00:30:30.720 bagels i haven't eaten yet like real food bagel a institution oh my god yeah we're gonna need you
00:30:36.520 get you get you across town immediately it's the best bagel you've ever experienced so i'm eating
00:30:41.120 the bagel um i'm eating the bagel i'm in agony um and i don't cry until we get to the actual
00:30:51.680 building and i can hardly walk at all and i'm doubled over and as tears just start streaming
00:30:58.140 because it's just like where are they I need a wheelchair they're bringing me a wheelchair but
00:31:01.780 it's taking too long and I'm just like they get me upstairs it's my nurse from earlier who I loved
00:31:06.480 um shout out to Jasmine and I'm like and I'm crying like crying and she's like I see us all
00:31:12.480 the time she's like I deal with um you know I'm in the labor room whatever it's called like I'm
00:31:16.540 in the delivery room she's like I see pregnant women like sobbing from this like it's so 0.92
00:31:20.660 uncomfortable it's so terrible yeah they will me in they're gonna give me a catheter I'm literally 0.96
00:31:25.980 And like, meanwhile, I'd been there that morning. 0.96
00:31:30.420 Like, it was like, I'm fucking back here. 0.96
00:31:32.700 Thank God Naomi could be with me. 0.98
00:31:34.700 I was like crying on the table, gripping them, their shoulders, like squeezing so hard.
00:31:42.320 They made me laugh because they were like, squeeze me.
00:31:43.840 Just like, don't squeeze my neck.
00:31:46.680 Which really made me laugh.
00:31:48.020 And I hurt so much to laugh.
00:31:50.080 You're squeezing a single vein.
00:31:52.240 Yeah.
00:31:53.480 Their artery.
00:31:54.860 But the point is, insertion of a catheter.
00:31:59.060 Didn't love it, but it was nothing compared to the pain I was in. 1.00
00:32:02.080 And then I just start, they're just draining your fucking bladder. 0.99
00:32:04.980 And I'll say this. 0.99
00:32:06.180 The nurse was like, wow, no wonder you were so uncomfortable. 0.97
00:32:09.880 Drained a thousand milliliters out of my bladder. 1.00
00:32:12.740 She came in with like two little buckets and was like, I got to get a third. 1.00
00:32:16.320 Like it was like. 1.00
00:32:16.740 Yeah, yeah.
00:32:17.380 This is one of my favorite things in medicine.
00:32:19.700 Okay.
00:32:20.140 Which is.
00:32:20.660 Yeah.
00:32:20.780 and it was fun like when you were giving me the stats okay because it was like it's like i have
00:32:26.980 this thing about i think it's funny like this like 19 stitches okay seven stitches the numbers
00:32:34.920 people really latch on to yeah yeah and then report them around town like like with intensity
00:32:42.020 and like i could feel it like like i was almost like you're like a thousand milliliters and i i
00:32:47.760 almost felt like this is a bold assertion but like do you actually have a reference for what a
00:32:54.300 thousand milliliters is in your head okay is it not that much or no no i don't right you're
00:32:59.820 repeating a number that you heard like basically the nurse communicate with tone was was way too
00:33:07.160 much and with extra buckets right it's like yeah so then you got in the world and you go like a
00:33:11.640 thousand milliliters and then it's like almost like those who know no it's like it's like it's
00:33:17.860 like this funny thing where it's like like you're like a thousand milliliters and like you know like
00:33:21.780 a few like sweeps down a few scrolls down in the like text later it's like a thousand milliliters
00:33:27.260 you know detail comes in again i politely you know yeah yeah it was well because she held up
00:33:33.580 the bag of piss and i was like yeah wow and and but give she gives you what i'm saying is like
00:33:38.860 She's given you the empowerment of this data piece
00:33:44.280 that you can go home with and tell others.
00:33:46.320 Yeah.
00:33:46.560 And it'll almost be like,
00:33:47.340 I'd be like, you know how much that is, right?
00:33:48.760 No, because I start repeating it,
00:33:51.280 not knowing really what it means.
00:33:52.600 Yeah.
00:33:52.720 It was only another doctor who I told it to 1.00
00:33:54.540 and she was like, holy shit. 0.99
00:33:56.860 But like a layman doesn't, I didn't even understand. 1.00
00:33:59.780 Yeah.
00:34:00.280 Did you feel satisfied?
00:34:01.980 Yes.
00:34:02.280 And the other doctor,
00:34:03.020 this is what I'm trying to say.
00:34:04.180 There's a satisfaction of like the good stats, 0.99
00:34:06.780 It's the, you know, like my shit was really fucked up. 0.99
00:34:10.880 No, I was vindicated by the other doctor reaction. 1.00
00:34:14.760 Sorry.
00:34:15.400 I know this is not like a compelling observational piece of humor
00:34:18.600 like to you at this moment that I'm like hooked on,
00:34:22.540 but you know what I mean?
00:34:23.340 Like, sorry for the interruption.
00:34:24.500 No, no, no.
00:34:25.480 I'm now, of course, self-conscious.
00:34:27.400 I went from being like,
00:34:28.820 I'm never going to discuss this on Pooh
00:34:30.100 to doing a forensic play-by-play.
00:34:32.840 Oh, you're suddenly self-conscious right now?
00:34:34.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34:35.080 wait was it due to my analysis no nothing having to do with you oh okay so anyway so I feel like
00:34:43.160 I always say this and I'll just say and then I talk for 45 minutes but I'll just say got home
00:34:48.200 unfortunately immediately so I got um OHSS you can look it up um it affects some people who get 0.96
00:34:58.500 who go through this shit and um the main my main symptoms being crazy bloating when you say bloating 0.86
00:35:05.540 like abdominal distension i know it already fully four months pregnant like it's crazy like like 0.98
00:35:10.880 walking has been very difficult for days and it affects your breathing that's why i'm coughing 0.85
00:35:15.380 and why because there's so much fucking fluid in my abdomen that it's like pressing on like it just 0.99
00:35:20.420 fucks you um some nausea whatever but the main thing is like the fucking psycho distension 0.98
00:35:25.980 and um the breathing thing was what i woke up on the night like panicking because i was like 1.00
00:35:30.800 i can't fucking get a full breath which i've never experienced so it's alarming but also
00:35:34.800 comforting to be like that is a symptom um and yeah so i've been today maybe today's day four 0.96
00:35:42.100 maybe slightly less bloating but like walking yesterday i've been it's like hurts to walk
00:35:48.400 like you just can't do shit should we discuss the like the photo thing like oh yeah yeah 0.59
00:35:53.980 because like 0.74
00:35:55.860 whenever people are like
00:35:57.580 I was so bloated
00:35:58.320 I was four months pregnant
00:35:59.260 I'm like
00:35:59.840 but you know like
00:36:01.080 if you take a deep breath
00:36:01.980 you can like achieve that
00:36:03.020 yeah of course
00:36:03.740 you know what I mean
00:36:04.200 yeah
00:36:04.780 so it's almost like
00:36:06.020 and then
00:36:07.000 so you'd sent me one picture
00:36:08.420 which was
00:36:08.940 you know from
00:36:09.840 from looking down an angle
00:36:11.360 it's almost like
00:36:11.980 one of those photos
00:36:12.860 that like
00:36:13.260 your feet are
00:36:14.440 are like these minuscule
00:36:15.620 little fan
00:36:16.420 like popping out
00:36:17.700 from around the circle
00:36:18.480 it's like perfect
00:36:19.100 it's like my toes
00:36:20.360 are picking out
00:36:20.900 they look microscopic
00:36:22.240 yeah
00:36:23.180 It's like a globe of a stomach.
00:36:24.700 And then like, I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00
00:36:26.240 I'm like, that's the fucking shit. 1.00
00:36:27.680 Okay. 1.00
00:36:28.240 Whatever.
00:36:28.720 I see it. 0.99
00:36:29.060 I'm like, holy shit, whatever. 0.92
00:36:30.480 Then later you send me, or like, maybe it was two days later. 0.98
00:36:33.240 I don't know.
00:36:33.780 You send me like a side shot in the mirror, like underwear and t-shirt held up.
00:36:39.280 Right.
00:36:39.520 Yeah.
00:36:40.040 And I'm staring at it going, okay, okay, okay.
00:36:42.900 Am I supposed to, what is my reaction?
00:36:44.800 Am I supposed to be looking at this joint?
00:36:46.440 Much better. 0.86
00:36:46.800 You're so bloated.
00:36:47.700 Yeah.
00:36:48.220 Or, and so I go, I can be free with you, obviously.
00:36:51.540 And it's not like it's a vanity thing.
00:36:53.920 You know what I mean?
00:36:54.480 But I was just like, is this a big improvement?
00:36:57.340 You know, like, and you're like, no, you know?
00:36:59.760 And then I was like, this photo, I go like, this photo is not the one.
00:37:03.360 You're so funny.
00:37:04.320 No, you're like, this isn't the one to send for sympathy.
00:37:06.640 I was like, that's because I only had sent it to you.
00:37:08.580 I was like, correct.
00:37:10.180 Doesn't show.
00:37:11.020 Yeah.
00:37:11.160 Don't go live with this one.
00:37:12.520 No.
00:37:12.980 It looks like, like, and then I drew a picture for you of what it looked like.
00:37:17.160 It looked just like, you know, model eats hamburger.
00:37:20.840 yeah yeah you know like it wasn't it wasn't showing the the extreme um element but yeah it's
00:37:26.500 it's like today's day four i've been trying to stay you know of course been a couple reddit
00:37:31.500 threads that have been helpful because but everyone you know it is by the way i don't
00:37:37.580 want to scare here's the thing i don't regret doing it yet we'll see how the next you know
00:37:41.600 week pans out but i don't want to scare anyone um but i think also people should know if you
00:37:49.720 have a large amount of follicles and you get a lot of eggs retrieved it can definitely set you 0.99
00:37:56.080 up for this and it's not um something that you can't just get through but like it fucking sucks 0.98
00:38:02.900 they won't know until they do it no you know how many follicles you have about going in before you 0.82
00:38:09.860 do the procedure like i was at risk for it for sure because i had such a high follicle count yeah
00:38:15.220 right right
00:38:16.960 no I was just
00:38:17.880 okay
00:38:18.120 that's what I was like
00:38:19.060 but I think
00:38:20.200 and again 0.99
00:38:20.600 I'm not a fucking doctor 0.98
00:38:21.880 but I mean like 0.99
00:38:22.020 they're already in the doctors
00:38:23.420 doing a process
00:38:24.960 like they're already
00:38:25.420 in the process of doing it
00:38:26.580 you know what I'm saying
00:38:27.080 like someone who's
00:38:29.000 has not gotten
00:38:29.820 any of it checked out
00:38:30.880 like I'm just like
00:38:31.460 someone sitting around
00:38:32.240 like
00:38:32.580 like
00:38:33.780 whatever it doesn't matter
00:38:35.040 I'm just talking about
00:38:35.800 like the warning
00:38:36.320 that you're giving
00:38:36.900 I was just saying
00:38:37.540 you could go in
00:38:38.420 if you're like
00:38:38.840 oh I think I want to
00:38:39.820 freeze my eggs
00:38:40.300 first of all
00:38:40.720 you can go in 1.00
00:38:41.320 on your fucking period 1.00
00:38:42.180 and get an ultrasound 1.00
00:38:42.760 and see
00:38:43.420 how many follicles
00:38:44.520 you have
00:38:44.960 which will give you an idea of how many you know and so and then you could talk to your doctor and
00:38:49.120 go do you think i'm at risk for developing um ohss yeah um i wonder if well it might even empower
00:38:56.520 people who were freaked out by that they're like it'll feel like i'm on an episode of poog yeah
00:39:00.820 exactly get a little bloated it's fine i mean that's the thing there's been yeah like yesterday
00:39:05.240 morning i woke up yesterday i woke up like sobbing i'm not sobbing i woke up crying because
00:39:11.080 it was like the breathing not being able to breathe is so upsetting and like not being able 0.85
00:39:14.260 to fucking move basically and I'm on this other medication now I'm on I'm on additional injections
00:39:19.340 to bring down my estrogen and I'm on this other medication which makes you woozy at night so it's 0.98
00:39:23.540 like I woke up in the middle of the night drops your blood pressure and I felt like I was going
00:39:26.500 to pass out and I couldn't breathe and I couldn't move and I was like cool glad that you're not even 0.99
00:39:31.480 sure you want kids you fucking psycho but now I was like well now I literally have to have three 0.98
00:39:35.580 to justify the process but um oh and then also I was telling you Jacqueline because you have to 1.00
00:39:42.520 sign this form like if you die like what do you want to have happen with your eggs and my first
00:39:46.700 instinct was like incinerate them or whatever send them out into the ocean but now I'm like
00:39:51.720 no no like spread them around like if any of my friends want my eggs they can take them
00:39:57.660 yeah which which might sound like there's an angle where that sounds like egocentric or
00:40:02.920 something like you want yourself to and of course I'm it's I'm also joking but I am a little bit
00:40:08.540 like feel why not and then Jacqueline you have a genius no I think you feel like you hold like
00:40:14.940 like you went into the mountains and you hold like a treasure yeah and you realize like you've got
00:40:20.580 like a lot or more than enough to like you know yeah by the way huge I just want to say like
00:40:27.020 best friends this is like this is what friendship is obviously I'm going to say it but like you know
00:40:33.300 like you're like I'm doing I'm freezing my eggs this week and I'm like I'm like immediate I go
00:40:37.740 immediate pit in my stomach of panic should i do it too i know i love you that is okay and you go
00:40:42.840 like you were like i was like i have a knot in my stomach you're like of course
00:40:47.080 okay and you go the mothers have a knot the not mothers have a knot yeah exactly they're not in
00:40:55.560 the mothers have a knot in their stomach the not mothers have a knot in their stomach and i was
00:40:59.700 like, and I go like, you know, in the entire like childless woman, you know, woman with child
00:41:09.460 dichotomy. Yeah. Oh my God. I was like sitting there going like, I would go like, wait, the
00:41:14.980 mothers have a knot? Yeah. The mothers have a knot? Like, you know, like a decision of the
00:41:20.600 other wife. Always. No, I mean, and this is what, yeah, because I've, and for a long time I was 0.99
00:41:25.540 like rejecting i was like i'm not gonna fucking have kids and like and i continue to have a huge
00:41:31.500 amount of course of rage the propaganda is like shocking and alarming for women to have children 0.98
00:41:35.960 it's just like absolutely deafening and it's almost impossible to touch in with what you
00:41:39.700 actually might fucking want yourself right um so but yeah you know every inside every yes is a no
00:41:45.960 inside every no it's a yes you know it's like but then i sort of 0.93
00:41:49.360 she said as though it was a common expression
00:41:54.300 well even Jacqueline Novak's never heard of it
00:41:57.760 but by the way I want merch
00:41:59.860 I want merch
00:42:01.760 that will save lives 1.00
00:42:03.480 the mothers have a knot in their stomach
00:42:06.320 the knot mothers have a knot in their stomach 0.91
00:42:08.640 that is like 0.87
00:42:09.480 that will save lives
00:42:10.940 I think so
00:42:11.820 it's like a broader thing
00:42:14.060 because I tend to endlessly ruminate
00:42:16.780 and you could argue
00:42:17.960 oh freezing the eggs
00:42:18.940 continues the rumination
00:42:20.100 but it actually feels like
00:42:21.380 no it's in a direction of like
00:42:23.460 yeah it doesn't continue
00:42:26.200 I don't know
00:42:26.580 because I was ruminating about
00:42:28.080 I don't see it that way
00:42:28.900 I see it as the opposite
00:42:29.760 yeah
00:42:30.060 yeah you just 1.00
00:42:30.920 you put the shit aside 1.00
00:42:32.160 well it's 1.00
00:42:32.940 I know I've said this
00:42:34.240 but it's my
00:42:35.300 it's from the Sopranos
00:42:36.640 forgot who said it
00:42:37.980 but it's more is lost
00:42:38.920 by indecision
00:42:39.660 than the wrong decision
00:42:40.560 right
00:42:41.020 and I like think about that
00:42:42.000 because
00:42:42.340 yeah it's like 1.00
00:42:43.380 just fucking 1.00
00:42:44.440 make a choice 1.00
00:42:45.440 just step in
00:42:46.340 whichever direction
00:42:47.260 if you did that for a week 1.00
00:42:48.840 there was some woman 1.00
00:42:49.960 I've like read books about this 1.00
00:42:51.180 like for a week
00:42:52.280 I mean I'm posing this strategy
00:42:54.360 because I can't imagine
00:42:55.140 I'm like too afraid
00:42:56.060 I'd be afraid to do it for three hours
00:42:57.640 what if like every decision
00:42:59.440 you made
00:43:00.280 in like three seconds
00:43:02.460 so that would mean
00:43:05.100 arbitrary
00:43:05.860 often
00:43:06.860 every decision
00:43:08.420 for a week
00:43:09.360 let's say
00:43:10.040 like I'd literally be scared
00:43:11.580 to like commit to that
00:43:12.580 for the next like three hours
00:43:13.900 totally
00:43:15.160 can you imagine
00:43:15.840 what your life would be like
00:43:17.260 no that's an experiment we're trying and I do think like I again because I do have
00:43:23.740 the medical paranoia and the fear it's like okay cool I guess there's something interesting about
00:43:30.480 feeling like the last few days I've never felt more alien in my body it's like insane and it's
00:43:35.440 really hard not to think something's like wrong because of the pain and the discomfort and it's 0.95
00:43:39.500 like yeah wait is this just what my life is now but it's like yeah and and by the way it fucking
00:43:47.560 lasts like my doctor was just kind of like yeah like maybe you'll feel better in a week oh my god 0.60
00:43:52.740 you know like it's not just like yeah in two days you'll you know yeah but um but I'm gonna get
00:44:00.240 through it I was excited I was excited by I mean because I know you I just do so I was just like
00:44:06.060 like right off the bat, I was like, finally a medical issue. Like the hypochondriac, whatever.
00:44:14.380 I was like, you're in the eye of the storm. Like totally yourself now. It's like, you know,
00:44:17.920 it's the classic thing, but no, no, there is a good in a, they're good in the, you know,
00:44:22.340 you're fine. You're just fucking doing it. Yeah. Just doing it. And it's kind of like, 0.99
00:44:26.520 oh, it was just like, I will be okay. I fucking can't wait to feel better. But even today's 0.94
00:44:32.240 better like there's no way I could have recorded the last couple days um but my you know the
00:44:36.980 breathing's improved and whatever you know I controlled myself from pitching it like you in
00:44:41.520 massive discomfort like lying on your back with the thing I was like I controlled myself from
00:44:45.700 being like could be a good journalism you could always you could always pitch it I'm drinking I
00:44:52.120 have I'm drinking just mainlining the other thing that sucks about it and for anyone going through 0.98
00:44:56.820 it i'm with you but hearing but like you can't you're so fucking distended and bloated like 0.97
00:45:03.720 bloated it's not even the right word it's like again like walking is uncomfortable distension 0.97
00:45:09.000 distension is the word yeah distension like you need to say distension have people like for a
00:45:14.120 moment be confused yeah yeah and like and then go like i'm almost feeling you know well no you know
00:45:20.160 you need to be like pleurisy or whatever the fuck it is you know like the fluid and maybe that's in
00:45:24.980 the lungs or something but like fluid in the cavity yeah oh that that's you'll get the response 0.88
00:45:32.500 you're no no bloated is like people are like I live bloated when people hear breathing like I'm
00:45:37.360 coughing not because I have a cough I'm coughing because it's like there is fluid in my abdomen 0.95
00:45:40.740 like pushing up and um oh but I'll say this this fucking rules my doctor was like go see the morning 0.95
00:45:47.900 the night of my surgery procedure she was like you need to go see this acupuncturist tomorrow 0.98
00:45:53.740 morning wait hold on before we get excited yeah i remember you just being like surgery tomorrow
00:46:00.220 oh yeah i was like almost was gonna be like interesting like i feel like the language i've
00:46:04.740 heard around that thing is um more like procedure like i kind of didn't process that they were
00:46:09.580 gonna put you out yeah i kind of thought like but you're sitting up and just like a um needle
00:46:15.660 goes into like the belly and they're just like they're just like yeah yeah nope you're out you're
00:46:20.900 spread, and they're in 1.00
00:46:22.960 your pussy. They're up and through. 1.00
00:46:25.360 Yeah.
00:46:34.620 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast
00:46:36.940 called The Red Weather.
00:46:38.700 It was many and many
00:46:40.800 a year ago in a kingdom by
00:46:42.860 the sea. In 1995,
00:46:45.200 my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared
00:46:46.940 from a commune. It was hard to wrap your head around.
00:46:49.120 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.
00:46:52.920 So no, I am not your guru.
00:46:56.680 And back then, I lied to my parents.
00:46:59.300 I lied to police.
00:47:00.580 I lied to everybody.
00:47:01.580 There were years right where I could not say your name.
00:47:04.540 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,
00:47:07.220 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,
00:47:10.040 whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.
00:47:13.380 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods
00:47:16.300 and not the obvious boyfriend?
00:47:17.700 They have had this case for 30 years. 0.98
00:47:20.900 I'll teach you sons of **** to come around here and my wife. 0.97
00:47:23.900 Boom, boom. 0.99
00:47:25.260 This is The Red Weather.
00:47:28.180 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app,
00:47:30.820 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:47:35.960 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, from The Girlfriends,
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00:47:45.820 I'm back with more one-off interviews 1.00
00:47:47.940 with some truly kick-ass women on The Girlfriend's Spotlight. 1.00
00:47:52.840 I want to introduce you to Sylvia. 0.97
00:47:55.360 I'm going to climb this.
00:47:57.720 And then there's Vaisaka.
00:47:59.860 Let's see how we can stop killing and save lives.
00:48:03.960 Leila dared to ask the question.
00:48:06.440 Is badness hereditary?
00:48:08.480 And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.
00:48:10.280 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived,
00:48:13.220 she wouldn't have died on that fatal night.
00:48:16.360 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,
00:48:18.080 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.
00:48:21.120 I'm not too intimidated by her.
00:48:22.520 What are you talking about? 1.00
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00:49:00.760 I'd be like, what was this?
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00:49:09.380 Benson goes to talk to Kelly to like tell her the news,
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00:50:06.740 I'll just say, I went to go do acupuncture.
00:50:09.540 This woman's amazing. 1.00
00:50:10.640 I have to say like don't just say okay so I go to this acupuncturist she fucking I mean it's cool 0.98
00:50:18.880 I gotta say she lays me on the table by the way this was the morning after the procedure I felt 0.97
00:50:24.280 good I was like right like I felt like I'm okay like sure I'm bloated but I it like had not hit
00:50:29.460 yet at all the cartoon character that like gets hit and then walks walks walks yeah I'm fine yeah
00:50:34.660 exactly so I lay on the table she I'm not fucking kidding like touches my hand and goes there's 0.78
00:50:41.380 fluid in your lungs like touches my hand and I was like so cool I was like huh and then she's like 1.00
00:50:47.580 barely she runs her fingers delicately like between my knees and my ankle like barely and
00:50:52.280 she's like left side congestion and I was like yeah I get migraines on my left side during when
00:50:57.580 I was during the process my left side was killing me because my uterus is tilted to the left if
00:51:02.740 Anybody wants to know.
00:51:04.280 And so I had like, I was like, yeah.
00:51:06.060 And she's just like, yeah, like your spleen, your liver, all this stuff.
00:51:09.400 She goes, you're ambitious.
00:51:10.980 You think too much. 1.00
00:51:12.200 I was like, holy shit. 1.00
00:51:13.700 She sticks the needles in me and she goes to leave. 1.00
00:51:17.180 And I go, okay.
00:51:17.720 I was like, this one kind of hurts.
00:51:18.880 She moves it.
00:51:19.680 And I started to talk.
00:51:20.580 She goes, don't think.
00:51:22.840 And she just kind of like walks out.
00:51:24.000 She's like, stop thinking.
00:51:25.100 And I was like, huh.
00:51:26.880 She's like, picture a flower opening and closing in your abdomen.
00:51:29.380 I was like, okay.
00:51:30.460 She leaves full.
00:51:31.800 And then she leaves with that? 0.88
00:51:32.680 Like, she just leaves? 0.99
00:51:33.520 She just leaves.
00:51:34.360 She's like, press this button if you, you know.
00:51:35.680 What kind of flower?
00:51:36.740 Yeah, she's red. 0.95
00:51:38.040 She said red.
00:51:39.080 I proceed to, like, relax in a way I haven't in 10,000 years.
00:51:44.920 Full, almost dream state.
00:51:46.700 Well, I did fall asleep.
00:51:48.280 But then, like, it was cool.
00:51:50.900 Is there any risk with those needles of falling asleep, rolling over?
00:51:55.940 No.
00:51:56.380 Even if you did, they're barely in there.
00:51:58.200 How, though?
00:51:58.720 Like, they're just.
00:51:59.820 Right.
00:52:00.100 They're like.
00:52:00.500 they're hardly under the skin it's like so delicate they're so thin but um she did give
00:52:05.460 me these herbs this like tea to make and it's really difficult to ingest I'm having a really
00:52:13.960 hard time with it um but anyway um you know how when people like talk about like a gross tea or
00:52:21.240 something like that you kind of think like it's just like not gonna taste good or something like
00:52:27.260 it's gonna be exactly you know bad yeah yeah yeah like they're like it's gross like like it's not
00:52:32.700 tasty i brushed it off there are things that are so gross no no i brushed it off i was like i can
00:52:37.880 tolerate anything she said it in the moment the front was like it is very like strong i was like
00:52:43.320 oh i'll be fine i'm like i was like i was like it's not gonna bother me because it's like six
00:52:48.180 ounces it's not very much it's as dark as coffee darker yeah and it's like i don't even have the
00:52:56.740 words nausea inducing right one day i gagged and was nauseous for five hours after 0.80
00:53:02.260 like right now you're reminding me like i guess i have to do it today like i i fucking might not 0.81
00:53:09.500 be able to i'm not trying to think anyway so you can't mix it with anything because that like 0.90
00:53:12.720 dilutes no you can't mix it you can't put anything supposed to do an empty stomach i
00:53:15.880 imagine no on food i think because it's so strong okay what about i have an idea i wonder if this 0.99
00:53:22.900 would work you freeze it into pebbled ice cubes that you swallow wow god you're fucking good 0.98
00:53:30.740 i am that might be kind of fucking genius wait you mean like you take the little ice cubes like 0.97
00:53:36.800 a pill yeah like so like the flavor is like well one even if it's like you know i don't know it 0.97
00:53:43.460 just goes down like a little pebble ice cube i mean i mean the body would immediately melt it
00:53:48.080 right in the stomach
00:53:48.760 and there you go
00:53:50.140 frozen blueberries
00:53:51.740 better than a fresh one
00:53:52.700 I really wonder
00:53:54.740 I really wonder
00:53:56.620 oh my god
00:54:00.680 well I should go
00:54:01.580 because this is the most
00:54:02.040 I've talked in days
00:54:02.920 it's a bit winded
00:54:04.740 you're a star
00:54:05.040 thank you
00:54:06.860 you've been a star
00:54:08.040 my first syndrome
00:54:08.760 I'm very proud of you
00:54:09.560 I've been impressed with you
00:54:11.200 I was so happy for you 1.00
00:54:12.200 to finally have a syndrome
00:54:13.120 oh then I texted you
00:54:15.720 this is funny
00:54:16.400 because today I was like
00:54:17.700 okay i'm gonna like go out today i'm gonna like force myself to walk a little more
00:54:20.700 and i put on a face product my face instantly turns bright red and i literally am like 0.84
00:54:26.720 who am i fucking job i'm like god punishing me and then i because my greatest fear is being 0.90
00:54:35.700 becoming like julian more unsafe like my greatest fear is becoming allergic to the world 0.97
00:54:39.720 where like everything's poison and you're just and i and so i'm like is this the beginning of
00:54:44.180 me becoming like
00:54:45.100 where I can't tolerate. We could tackle that.
00:54:48.460 If that happened to you,
00:54:50.620 okay, and I'm putting in
00:54:52.200 quotes to not lock it
00:54:53.960 in your mind. Yeah. Like the fear of that happening
00:54:56.180 is the thing to get rid of. No, yeah, totally.
00:54:57.820 I'm just going to bring it in.
00:55:00.960 Okay. Well,
00:55:02.000 I'm not suggesting that anyone...
00:55:04.040 No, of course.
00:55:05.380 Okay, I actually have to go.
00:55:07.640 But I love you. Thank you. I love you.
00:55:09.700 Bye. Bye.
00:55:10.360 That was POOG.
00:55:40.360 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.
00:55:48.240 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune.
00:55:52.160 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.
00:55:55.980 No, I am not your guru.
00:55:59.640 Back then, I lied to everybody.
00:56:01.960 They have had this case for 30 years.
00:56:04.880 I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth.
00:56:07.560 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:56:37.560 Listen to The Secret World of Roald Dahl
00:56:39.660 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
00:56:42.380 or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:56:45.420 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield,
00:56:47.800 the host of The Girlfriends.
00:56:49.400 I'm back with more one-off interviews 0.98
00:56:51.640 with some truly kick-ass women 0.98
00:56:53.940 on The Girlfriends Spotlight.
00:56:56.840 I'm going to climb this.
00:56:59.200 Is badness hereditary?
00:57:01.140 Let's see how we can stop killing.
00:57:03.720 I'm not too intimidated by her.
00:57:05.460 What are you talking about? 1.00
00:57:07.560 Listen to the Girlfriend Spotlight
00:57:11.460 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts
00:57:14.000 or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:57:19.580 Crook and Chase Nashville chats
00:57:21.180 with the true life adventures
00:57:22.580 of hot new country star Hudson Westbrook.
00:57:24.540 Early in his career, he shocked his mom more than once
00:57:27.620 and we even shocked him
00:57:29.380 on what we had to do to get to visit with him.
00:57:32.340 I've seen some people do some crazy things
00:57:34.060 but nothing like that.
00:57:35.100 Plus, what Hudson almost had in common
00:57:37.460 with Billy Bob Thornton.
00:57:39.180 Crook and Chase Nashville Chats
00:57:40.420 with Hudson Westbrook.
00:57:41.760 Listen and subscribe
00:57:42.480 on the iHeartRadio app,
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00:57:44.700 or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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