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00:02:52.740 is Boog. Today's topic, loosely speaking, subtextual conversation. Christmas soldier. Hey, team.

00:03:03.360 Somebody looks camera ready. Well, what a difference a week. Fuck, I couldn't even say it.

00:03:09.600 Well, what a difference a week makes. Today's my first day in pants since my retrieval. 1.00

00:03:14.960 The pants are tight. The joke is that you're doing another podcast. And so, right? Isn't

00:03:21.300 Yeah, I'm going from here to another podcast.

00:03:22.600 Yeah, I'm going from here to another podcast, so to speak.

00:03:23.940 Yeah.

00:03:24.260 You know what I mean?

00:03:25.160 It's like, because, you know, we're raw for poop.

00:03:29.280 We're raw for poop. 1.00

00:03:30.100 For the time being, motherfuckers. 1.00

00:03:32.260 Yeah, you better fucking buckle up. 1.00

00:03:33.940 Because the new horizons. 1.00

00:03:34.340 Shit's going to get crazy and you're all going to be- 1.00

00:03:36.780 Get ready. 0.99

00:03:37.400 You're going to go, I miss when they were-

00:03:40.700 Relatable. 1.00

00:03:41.380 Dumb and didn't know how to mobilize a business. 1.00

00:03:43.820 Yeah. 1.00

00:03:45.120 Yeah.

00:03:45.940 Although I never identify as that.

00:03:47.460 I know you like to say we're geriatric and we don't understand business.

00:03:50.440 I'm like, hey, actually, I worked in corporate for some time. 0.98

00:03:54.520 Okay, but nonetheless, I do play the fool on this podcast, of course. 0.91

00:04:00.540 You look stunning is the point. 0.86

00:04:02.460 Well, by the way, thank you.

00:04:03.500 This is the first time in weeks that I've put on any makeup whatsoever.

00:04:09.800 On your face?

00:04:10.280 Yeah.

00:04:11.040 You know me, always dressing up for the doctor to try to receive better care.

00:04:15.720 But I've been, is that lemon drink?

00:04:17.560 I thought you might get curious

00:04:19.300 if I pulled it out

00:04:20.680 one was too big

00:04:22.240 there is half a lemon

00:04:23.820 ground up in there

00:04:24.920 pith and all

00:04:25.780 and then like watermelon

00:04:27.780 and some berries

00:04:29.980 oh my god look at us

00:04:31.320 we've got a matcha

00:04:32.080 it's real

00:04:32.720 the LA dream

00:04:34.120 something happened

00:04:35.640 oh by the way

00:04:36.260 last night

00:04:37.400 this is how you can summon

00:04:38.540 okay so I

00:04:39.860 kind of a sadness

00:04:42.280 came over me

00:04:43.460 yesterday

00:04:44.080 nothing severe

00:04:45.460 everything was fine

00:04:46.420 and I was like

00:04:47.320 you know my hormones are tanking I despise sadness yeah yeah hormones were tanking to kind of that

00:04:52.460 summer loneliness that that feeling of like you should be who am I where'd my life go yeah if I'm

00:04:58.120 not I'm not in Tuscany I'm not even in a bar you know yeah and feel that thing of like I feel that

00:05:03.300 if I'm not poolside which I'm no one was around to hang out you know yeah although I was kind of

00:05:08.080 like yeah well that's fine and then I was like you know what this is for the best I'm just gonna

00:05:12.960 make a kitchen sink dinner yeah last night you know i was like i'm gonna go to the grocery store

00:05:17.400 and said you know i just kind of pulled shit out of the fridge cleared the fridge we're gonna do

00:05:20.740 creamy together last night ninja creamy i know we were gonna i know we didn't addy the creamy 0.74

00:05:25.700 mixins the creamy i'm like we will be posting about the creamy soon but i am intimidated a

00:05:31.300 little bit shark ninja shot huge shout out to shark ninja huge pook pook supporters by the way

00:05:36.880 I'm applying something right now.

00:05:38.980 Sai.

00:05:40.240 Oh, yeah.

00:05:41.900 Sai is a really cheap brand.

00:05:43.660 They've been good to poog.

00:05:44.740 It's the glow serum, I believe, or it's what gives you that pearl finish.

00:05:48.420 That rose glow.

00:05:49.920 Okay, keep going.

00:05:51.000 I was feeling the sadness, whatever, then I was fine.

00:05:54.200 Do you ever do that thing where you're like, well, it's almost six,

00:05:56.940 so it's basically soon it'll be 10, I'll be asleep, it'll be a fresh day.

00:06:00.320 It's also the interesting thing of the mania that happens at night

00:06:04.200 that the morning washes away sometimes.

00:06:06.540 It's just shocking.

00:06:07.420 Like, I was, like, spiraling out about a little detail, about a little business detail.

00:06:11.980 And I go, okay, you're allowed to spiral about this as you wash the dishes.

00:06:16.340 Yeah.

00:06:16.620 Go hard.

00:06:17.460 Yeah.

00:06:18.460 What a cut a.

00:06:20.080 And then when you're done washing the dishes, move on with your life.

00:06:23.760 And I did that.

00:06:24.560 In the first episode of Lost, I think, the doctor, Party 5, he was, like, talking because he's a surgeon.

00:06:33.540 And it was like, yeah, and I'm scared or something.

00:06:35.260 And he's like, he's like, I give myself four seconds to be like, to be afraid.

00:06:40.460 Four, that's brief.

00:06:42.300 Yeah, four.

00:06:42.880 I think if you're a surgeon.

00:06:44.640 Right, right, right.

00:06:45.300 That's a good point.

00:06:46.020 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:46.600 Like if you need, if you need two minutes even.

00:06:49.160 Yeah.

00:06:49.560 Maybe get out of the game.

00:06:50.680 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:51.580 So is your path or you leave.

00:06:53.560 Look at us drinking out of jars.

00:06:55.680 Like there's something that happens in Los Angeles.

00:06:59.800 I was thinking about this.

00:07:01.000 By the way, I have to do another detox with Instagram because,

00:07:04.180 particularly because i've been you know um bedridden adjacent yeah i've spent so much

00:07:09.960 fucking time scrolling and specifically because i'm still locked out of my instagram on my i have

00:07:15.080 something to admit i'm still locked out of my personal instagram on my phone but i did allow 0.98

00:07:20.560 myself to access the poog instagram on my phone which is like not as much of a suck because it's

00:07:25.560 like all it is is there's no feed except for just what the algorithm is feeding me yeah but of course

00:07:30.400 they know exactly what i want but then it's interesting because you start going down one

00:07:33.300 channel and then it starts showing you like so basically i was just endlessly because i don't

00:07:37.460 have tiktok because i'm fucking old but like we got to get on there we could rule tiktok i know

00:07:42.780 i know we got to go we got to go we don't think we can get an eight second thing that people are 0.71

00:07:48.100 like i'm gonna remix this wait wait what like you and me are fragment our fragmentary nature

00:07:57.780 there are clips on no i know but we we but really to just thrive in the medium what are you doing

00:08:07.020 working on your no i just wanted to see what my lips look like if i made them bigger in life are

00:08:11.900 people really just quietly getting filler in the night yeah i think they are but it's not on my

00:08:16.900 radar so i like i never notice like you know it's like those things like i never i think we've

00:08:24.400 talked about so I never think anyone's on cocaine I never like I just I there's like a clueless

00:08:29.200 like I know yeah and then and then um yeah I also don't really perceive work like unless

00:08:37.560 it's shocking I think unless it's it's shocking it's sort of like my brain is just sort of

00:08:43.480 assimilated or you know like yeah into its models into its models of what different faces are like

00:08:51.580 just like that like yeah some people have like firm hard cheeks right right well I feel like I

00:08:57.740 have an eye for work but I will say yeah you know those there's the proliferation of those

00:09:03.400 on Instagram where it's like here's a celebrity we're gonna tell here's what I think they had

00:09:07.600 done but then sometimes you're like well here's a photo from someone when they're much younger

00:09:11.900 yeah to now like in your little like makeup and photography is powerful like who knows

00:09:16.760 yeah but then sometimes I go I put a little filler here she clearly had a little bit here

00:09:20.640 And you go, oh.

00:09:22.320 And then sometimes it happens to see someone, they look a little too fresh.

00:09:25.880 You go, you got refreshed.

00:09:28.160 Anyway, whatever.

00:09:29.120 But I'm getting a microcurrent facial tomorrow as a little gift to myself for getting through this time.

00:09:34.980 Oh, no, it's in a couple of days.

00:09:36.380 But I haven't had microcurrent in ages.

00:09:39.100 Gift to myself for getting through this.

00:09:41.100 Do you see the reward model, the shame and the reward that it requires illness to legitimize the treat?

00:09:49.080 Well, I have my big treat coming up, which is a birthday dinner.

00:09:51.600 I didn't get to have my birthday because the day before my birthday was my retrieval.

00:09:56.640 And I was so bold.

00:09:58.060 I thought, well, the day after, I won't go out, but maybe I'll have, you know.

00:10:03.300 Yeah.

00:10:04.500 No.

00:10:05.240 You never know.

00:10:06.020 I was crying on the couch.

00:10:06.880 Yeah.

00:10:07.640 Actually, I wasn't crying. 0.96

00:10:08.700 I was emotionally fine, but it sucked.

00:10:10.820 It's always good to pull back on the crying details so that they know you're real when you say it later.

00:10:14.800 Yeah, yeah, it's true.

00:10:15.440 I actually wasn't.

00:10:16.380 Cry Wolfina, of course.

00:10:17.740 Yeah, yeah.

00:10:18.280 I'm going to direct

00:10:19.560 direct example

00:10:20.960 this is shocking

00:10:22.400 this is literally too sweet

00:10:23.960 like it tastes like a cocktail

00:10:25.100 when you get a way too sweet cocktail

00:10:26.880 what's in there

00:10:27.440 and it's just because

00:10:27.880 it's just nothing but fruit

00:10:29.040 there was no time

00:10:29.620 I just wanted

00:10:30.040 it's mostly watermelon

00:10:32.460 half of a lemon

00:10:33.640 like it tastes like

00:10:35.060 sugary lemon

00:10:36.160 and then a couple blueberries

00:10:37.740 and it's water and lemon

00:10:37.800 that's it

00:10:38.400 and blueberries

00:10:38.880 no no

00:10:39.580 sometimes blueberries

00:10:40.580 are shockingly sweet

00:10:42.180 in a way that's like

00:10:42.940 unbelievable

00:10:43.880 it's like

00:10:44.700 how is this not

00:10:45.720 sugar

00:10:46.640 I need everyone to listen up

00:10:47.340 blueberries

00:10:47.840 are the answer yesterday.

00:10:49.700 Every day.

00:10:50.020 I took a nap,

00:10:50.540 listened to Dr. Greger's

00:10:51.620 various videos about blueberries.

00:10:55.600 He's blueberry obsessed.

00:10:57.240 I mean, he insists on half a,

00:10:59.260 well, it doesn't assist.

00:11:00.140 He offers in his daily dozen

00:11:01.280 what he does,

00:11:01.820 half a cup of berries daily.

00:11:03.620 But there's all these studies of blueberries.

00:11:04.940 I mean, it's literally like everything.

00:11:08.080 So cool. 0.95

00:11:08.860 I fucking believe it. 0.99

00:11:09.480 Is improved by the blueberry 0.99

00:11:10.340 and you need it daily.

00:11:11.880 I love it.

00:11:12.580 And frozen,

00:11:13.140 just half a cup frozen,

00:11:14.200 by the way,

00:11:14.440 that's like four mouthfuls.

00:11:16.240 It's nothing.

00:11:16.360 Yeah, I do...

00:11:17.840 I do a full cup.

00:11:19.240 Honey, I had a cup this morning in my still cut oats.

00:11:23.420 Oh, I've got my Supercube, the silicone molds.

00:11:28.320 But I showed you, right?

00:11:29.640 Yeah, yeah.

00:11:29.980 Four blocks of oatmeal.

00:11:32.440 So I made a huge pot.

00:11:34.140 I made an entire bag of first degree.

00:11:35.920 Apologies if I said this last week.

00:11:37.640 Full bag of first degree.

00:11:39.160 Which I turned you on too, I'm proud to say.

00:11:40.780 Yep.

00:11:41.360 Poured it into the silicone molds.

00:11:45.000 Then I have these perfect blocks of oatmeal waiting for me all week in the freezer.

00:11:49.700 Now I'm going to add my other things, my different tinctures and potions that go into my oatmeal.

00:11:54.960 That's going to be the next thing.

00:11:56.600 Then I had the garlic and onion frozen into ice cubes to throw in the pan for my nightly sauce.

00:12:02.480 Wow.

00:12:02.800 I know it's the level of, I just did a, back to TikTok, a TikTok recipe that I did twice this week.

00:12:09.580 You go there though.

00:12:10.520 That's what's interesting.

00:12:11.340 You go there.

00:12:11.800 I say TikTok, but it's not.

00:12:13.440 it's like fake

00:12:14.040 it's Instagram

00:12:14.660 it's like reposted

00:12:16.240 on Instagram

00:12:16.720 yeah

00:12:16.960 but it's

00:12:18.020 sorry but it's

00:12:19.560 the cottage cheese

00:12:20.240 egg wrap thing

00:12:21.640 where you

00:12:22.480 you blend

00:12:23.280 are you saying sorry

00:12:23.880 because I'm

00:12:24.460 Whole Foods plant based

00:12:25.320 I guess

00:12:27.700 but I know you're fine

00:12:28.440 you don't judge

00:12:29.020 but I did

00:12:29.980 are you joking

00:12:30.400 oh my god

00:12:31.020 please

00:12:31.380 like and also

00:12:32.040 I'm gonna do it tonight

00:12:33.020 you never know

00:12:33.520 okay I make no promises

00:12:34.640 of course

00:12:35.300 of course 0.99

00:12:35.640 well but god damn 0.96

00:12:37.020 I'm sorry 0.98

00:12:37.860 but it was fucking good 0.91

00:12:38.940 speak it up 0.98

00:12:39.420 because

00:12:39.660 no I just

00:12:41.640 I'm starting to think

00:12:42.640 don't let me

00:12:44.660 don't let this

00:12:45.280 take us away

00:12:45.980 okay hold to what

00:12:46.900 you're about to say

00:12:47.360 I was holding back

00:12:49.300 only because I'm like 0.98

00:12:49.920 I fucking had talked 0.98

00:12:50.960 about this on poop 0.99

00:12:51.500 before

00:12:51.820 the cottage

00:12:52.460 you know

00:12:53.220 cup of cottage cheese

00:12:54.560 two eggs

00:12:55.200 herbs 0.86

00:12:56.020 blasted in the thing

00:12:57.440 and then you

00:12:57.840 you bake it

00:12:58.480 at 350

00:12:59.140 for half an hour

00:13:00.620 and it's like a huge

00:13:01.800 wrap thing

00:13:03.160 and it's 0.97

00:13:04.880 goddamn good 0.97

00:13:05.860 but um 0.97

00:13:07.120 wait

00:13:07.800 well we have to talk about

00:13:09.320 wait I was gonna

00:13:10.060 tangent

00:13:10.380 but I wanted you to

00:13:11.660 hold to the thing

00:13:12.440 because I had a break-in, oh, about cottage cheese,

00:13:15.380 which is like, I saw a headline, a passing headline

00:13:17.420 about like the dairy industry is like paying influencers

00:13:19.960 just to like push, you know, push recipes,

00:13:24.260 products that are struggling.

00:13:25.500 And I'm like, so that's what happened with cottage cheese.

00:13:28.660 Cottage cheese did take such a crazy...

00:13:31.080 Cottage cheese came for Instagram and like...

00:13:33.440 But it's for a reason.

00:13:34.540 I mean, I grew up, my mother has been eating cottage cheese

00:13:36.500 since the 60s.

00:13:38.380 And did she do melon and jello?

00:13:40.040 Like in the diner menus? 0.89

00:13:42.040 She would do, that was called the California salad.

00:13:45.280 Yeah, totally.

00:13:46.180 I know.

00:13:46.760 Beautiful. 1.00

00:13:47.500 She still does cottage cheese, but she does it with like cereal and, you know, fruit or 1.00

00:13:51.620 something.

00:13:52.400 But cottage cheese, and I just want to say every brand is different.

00:13:56.300 So if you think cottage cheese is disgusting, pay a couple extra bucks, get a more deluxe

00:14:00.900 brand, you'll be moaning.

00:14:02.720 Well, I think the answer is small curd.

00:14:05.080 Oh, sure.

00:14:06.000 Yeah.

00:14:06.500 Oh, is it?

00:14:07.000 I mean, I think small curd, like less free floating liquid makes it closer.

00:14:12.040 more people are comfortable with for sure for sure um wait but mixins you said about the creamy oh

00:14:18.160 yeah no I do cream like you're like mixins are crazy it was like you're headed into something

00:14:22.860 I guess I don't know I just said that but it was meaningless I just meant to say what I meant to

00:14:27.840 say just creamy is overwhelming to me you know I did today to change my life at the supermarket I

00:14:32.820 bought a um a basil plant you know like they have the big ones wait a second wait a second hold on

00:14:38.340 the algorithm. Did it show you what it showed me? Wait, hold on. No. I mean, I'm almost disturbed.

00:14:44.320 Okay. Like that woman who's like an entire account is about like growing basil in the 1.00

00:14:49.500 terracotta pots in the kitchen. That's what I saw. See, this is too much. 1.00

00:14:52.740 No, I can't remember. That's what I saw. And it made me change my behavior. My behavior was

00:14:55.940 altered. Okay. Cause I was like, I'm finally doing it. I'm finally getting the basil plant

00:14:58.820 from the supermarket. So I got it today. It was a direct implant into the brain. I knew what I

00:15:03.280 thought. She says big saucer. Big saucer compared to the pot. Yes. And she goes, don't pour water

00:15:07.680 from the top yeah do water so by the way today because it went into my brain affected my behavior

00:15:12.880 at the market and then i went fuck i don't know where i didn't save the video easy to find not a 0.96

00:15:19.220 problem i'm sure but yeah for those who haven't been fed this it's a woman with growing gorgeous 0.97

00:15:25.960 and her huge kitchen yeah the huge kitchen is notable the store-bought basil i was lying there

00:15:32.080 going potting soil can i can i do it can i get myself to get potting soil totally i mean but

00:15:37.520 But I do use fresh basil near daily.

00:15:39.980 Now, I am doing like Instagram pushed method of jar in the fridge, you know, water jar in the fridge.

00:15:45.500 I also got this herb keeper in the fridge that holds water on the bottom.

00:15:48.420 It was like highly reviewed on Amazon, one of these Amazon finds.

00:15:51.140 By the way, I'm actually getting tired of like, you know, you asked me what's your spiralizer?

00:15:55.180 And I was like, like, to find the link. 0.99

00:15:58.220 I'm actually putting all my Amazon shit in a goddamn Amazon store. 0.99

00:16:01.340 And yes, I will be collecting affiliates. 0.99

00:16:02.700 Okay.

00:16:03.240 On our behalf.

00:16:04.260 Okay. 1.00

00:16:04.800 Because there's some shit. 0.99

00:16:06.620 like oh there's some shit that i only get on amazon okay and i've been withholding like from 0.99

00:16:14.200 the hags out of kind of you know wanting to push small biz yeah of course we always are we're 0.96

00:16:19.440 always pushing small biz oh wait speaking of i wonder if this happens to you so we got sent

00:16:24.400 this angeli okay oh my god so i got sent a bunch of that exploded my box came and it was like all

00:16:31.420 wet and i don't know what i did with it because it was like it's okay if you toss it to the wind

00:16:35.480 I can't imagine I threw it away.

00:16:36.660 I would never just throw away the box.

00:16:38.100 But what you do is you rinse and see what holds.

00:16:40.560 Like you rinse and see what.

00:16:42.680 Exactly.

00:16:43.280 You know what I mean?

00:16:44.020 So I just want to shout them out because two things.

00:16:47.900 One, they sent a little card with it.

00:16:49.740 Okay.

00:16:50.580 It was a lovely card and it included like PS and like the Instagram handle of the brand.

00:16:55.780 I think unless it was their handle.

00:16:57.780 But the vibe was like, and they almost were being apologetic about like,

00:17:01.760 like sorry like to be like this but here's the handle you know what i mean of course and i'm

00:17:07.000 like give me the handle like honey yeah you don't need to apologize for giving the handle of your

00:17:10.780 product that you gave us generously sending so last night can't find the card okay oh no wanting

00:17:16.280 to go wanting to post the product can't find the card searching on instagram for the for angela lee

00:17:21.680 angela lee skin okay i'm like it's consuming me so i don't know where it is and i'm putting out

00:17:28.100 the show. Now I realize this stuff weighs on me. It's in my email. There's an email. There's an

00:17:32.260 inbox. I can go if I sign into the POOG. Right. You can find it. You know, I could find the

00:17:37.360 where they originally, whatever. This is what weighs on me. The point is, I wanted to bring

00:17:42.100 it up because it's a small brand. Okay. But in the original email, they said something that was

00:17:46.060 huge. Okay. They go, I know you've expressed on the podcast that you tend to hesitate with small

00:17:52.100 skincare brands or small kind of like, or you have a fear that they're just like all just like

00:17:57.680 coconut oil in a bottle like they're all like coconut oil and sea salt and like not getting

00:18:03.060 the hardcore oh I said it because I absolutely believe it I mean like I mean I'm ashamed to

00:18:09.020 the chemical yeah the fear that the fear that it's kind of like that the small brand comes from this

00:18:14.660 like spirit of like you know you can you know you can just go down to the store and get a tub

00:18:19.760 sea salt you know like yeah you know everyone's in trouble now for making their own sunscreen

00:18:23.200 oh really

00:18:25.400 it's like a whole thing now

00:18:26.600 it's like you know 1.00

00:18:27.360 these fools 1.00

00:18:28.100 were like 1.00

00:18:28.840 put ghee with

00:18:30.620 lemon water

00:18:32.080 but they're trouble

00:18:32.620 not actually in trouble

00:18:33.860 in any

00:18:34.500 like are they selling it

00:18:35.800 I just meant

00:18:36.400 of course I'm like

00:18:37.500 I've like perceived this

00:18:38.580 through one eye squinting

00:18:40.040 yeah and I'll take your version

00:18:41.380 I don't care if it's real

00:18:42.180 no I don't think

00:18:43.120 it's like a legal dispute

00:18:44.160 I think it's more people

00:18:44.800 just coming down on these

00:18:46.020 on certain influencers

00:18:47.340 being like

00:18:47.900 don't encourage people

00:18:48.820 to make their own sunscreen

00:18:49.680 they need to go buy sunscreen

00:18:51.080 sorry

00:18:51.640 well

00:18:52.220 it's rampant out there. I was thinking how it's like nearly medieval. Like it's gotten medieval

00:18:56.780 out there with just like the fact that on Instagram, you can just say like, here's what

00:19:01.380 you need to do to blah, blah, blah. Like, and it just tells you, it's like, here's where your

00:19:04.940 jugular like vein, they like press on this. Like the fact that it is absolutely just, you don't

00:19:12.080 have to claim even expertise. You just have to say the thing. You just have to have a certain

00:19:17.680 intonation yeah i have this is why i'm like i need to go on a major cleanse because watching

00:19:23.200 the instagram because i've been consuming so much of like yeah it's just recipes did you know that

00:19:27.380 if you take you know or it's like my husband was craving fish but we didn't you know it's like 0.96

00:19:34.100 all of that it's making me so fucking stupid i can't breathe and so it's like i have to get off 0.98

00:19:39.360 of it like you sent me a recipe last night as though it was like a hack and it was like it was 0.99

00:19:44.040 like it was like pasta it was like pasta with tomato and no no that was just that was just

00:19:49.480 alice and roman's latest pasta oh okay okay fair enough fair enough yeah okay i like i did send

00:19:54.380 you i did send you because it was like vegan zucchini chocolate cake one bowl mix oh sure

00:19:59.360 exactly and then i was like one bowl but then i look and i go okay well in the bowl it's having

00:20:03.200 to go crazy shit like emulsify you know it's like weird well like right it's like it's like

00:20:07.760 i mean that yeah the whole kind of recipe hack like or they do that pan that 0.97

00:20:14.040 They film it from above on that pan that sits on a, like, not on a stove.

00:20:19.620 On a burner, on like an isolated burner, hot plate.

00:20:22.060 Yeah, an isolated hot plate burner that's like, you know, candy apple red or something.

00:20:27.000 And then when I get distracted, there's something I can feel.

00:20:31.960 Oh, so like, I'm not saying every small brand.

00:20:35.180 Of course, there are small companies doing massive things.

00:20:38.340 There are small brands.

00:20:39.220 Okay, everyone knows.

00:20:40.120 I'm just saying, yeah, I do have a…

00:20:43.120 They're like, frankly, at like a lot of like farmer's markets.

00:20:46.220 Totally, totally.

00:20:46.840 I think they're at the farmer's market.

00:20:48.200 And like lavender.

00:20:49.220 Yeah.

00:20:49.740 Yeah, yeah.

00:20:50.660 Literally.

00:20:52.620 It's just like, you know, it's like, I'm not snuffing.

00:20:56.400 Yeah.

00:20:56.920 And whatever.

00:20:57.840 So Anjali geniusly was like, you know, I know you have some hesitance around small brands

00:21:02.260 thinking that they don't actually use like real active. 0.98

00:21:05.580 Holy shit. 0.99

00:21:05.840 Yeah. 1.00

00:21:06.480 And she's like, but our brand actually uses. 0.95

00:21:08.180 And then it was like some cool shit that I already forgot what it was. 0.91

00:21:13.120 I mean, this is liquid oxygen and astaxanthin. 0.98

00:21:16.180 I think astaxanthin might be.

00:21:18.340 I don't know.

00:21:18.800 But the point is, I was impressed.

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00:21:24.400 I hope if they're listening, they know I did not throw it away.

00:21:26.840 I just opened it, became overwhelmed, put it to the side.

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00:25:02.560 I've been using the Beauty by Josen

00:25:10.760 I paid out of pocket

00:25:11.660 Oh yeah, sunscreen, I have to say

00:25:13.720 It's good

00:25:14.900 I have to say the last, going like three weeks

00:25:17.700 Without any makeup, not that I wear a ton of makeup

00:25:19.920 But I do wear tinted sunscreen

00:25:22.880 Yeah

00:25:23.840 I'm putting some blush on

00:25:25.620 I don't know

00:25:26.120 three weeks of basically no makeup

00:25:28.740 my skin has never been better

00:25:30.940 okay well there it is Kate

00:25:32.760 I mean there it is

00:25:35.860 we don't even have to

00:25:39.500 we can just

00:25:40.180 look at me

00:25:41.240 wait

00:25:41.500 I just caught a glimpse of my own face

00:25:42.800 and I think I'm attractive

00:25:44.980 look at me

00:25:46.540 see this

00:25:47.500 no what I mean is like

00:25:48.760 literally how you

00:25:49.820 like everyone

00:25:50.460 you know we've all heard a thousand times

00:25:51.980 how you walk

00:25:52.600 how you carry yourself

00:25:53.820 Right?

00:25:54.180 Yeah.

00:25:54.600 Like, it makes all the difference.

00:25:56.220 Okay, are you ready?

00:25:57.360 How do you carry your face?

00:25:59.780 People are not talking about that.

00:26:01.900 Okay, so some people are modeling.

00:26:04.420 Like, here's a huge one I think is interesting.

00:26:05.860 Are you ready?

00:26:05.980 Like, does the person share the features of their parent?

00:26:09.360 Or do they share the behavior of how they hold their face?

00:26:13.820 Which one is why you look like you're whatever?

00:26:17.380 Right.

00:26:17.860 It's actually psychological features.

00:26:19.860 Imagine you just, yeah, you drop features into, you know, so it's like,

00:26:23.680 I just glanced and discovered the unconscious face I was making.

00:26:27.200 I want to talk about our little evening the other night,

00:26:30.800 which was really exciting, Jacqueline.

00:26:32.600 Because I was like, come over.

00:26:34.900 Or I was like, I need to get out.

00:26:35.960 I'm scratching at the walls.

00:26:37.120 Absolute ecstasy.

00:26:38.240 Alone at the home.

00:26:39.940 And I go, I want to see Twisters.

00:26:45.360 Because I heard from a couple people.

00:26:47.800 So fun.

00:26:48.760 You know, the summer blockbuster is back.

00:26:51.260 I live to support the cinema.

00:26:53.680 yeah and walking down the carpeted hallway walking down the carpeted hallway with it with

00:26:59.480 the hideous you know you know pattern on the floor i don't remember if there was one the feeling of

00:27:03.440 which which am i i'm in theater three i know four it's actually always kind of scary that moment i

00:27:07.460 know it's kind of chaos you kind of like think you're not gonna find it or something you know

00:27:11.520 what's interesting it's like the thing of when you're and we've of course talked about this in

00:27:16.100 our peabody nominated episode movie theater epiphanies yeah but one thing i don't know if

00:27:22.600 we touched on that episode that is also profound to me is we've talked we had this had to come up

00:27:27.680 when you're when you go to the bathroom you're you're walk you're completely deranged this is

00:27:31.580 literally like this is like no no you're not listening you don't know where i'm going and

00:27:35.920 you hear the sniff bits of the other movies playing like well someone opens a door right

00:27:41.440 wait let's just take a second you just hear oh you're another one it's like and it's like all

00:27:45.780 of human what's that underwater well yes but it's it's someone's conversation yeah yeah that

00:27:54.120 doesn't like romance it's like all of human drama and tragedy is like distilled into these like

00:28:00.520 tropes and these archetypes you just barely get as you walk it's like and i even found myself

00:28:06.880 because we were in twister twisters only exists humanity only exists at the movie theater yeah

00:28:15.140 For many reasons now.

00:28:16.500 Which they actually allude.

00:28:18.400 By the way, one of the genius things in Twister.

00:28:20.240 Oh, by the way.

00:28:20.720 We never even talked about it.

00:28:21.780 Oh, honey.

00:28:22.740 Oh, yeah.

00:28:23.160 About the theater.

00:28:23.620 Eisenstein himself.

00:28:25.000 Oh, yeah. 0.98

00:28:25.700 Really fucking cool. 0.97

00:28:26.900 No, they go meta with it. 0.99

00:28:27.820 They go meta with it, baby. 0.90

00:28:29.460 Getting sucked through.

00:28:31.120 And then the screen is open.

00:28:32.660 Tell them, tell me, no spoilers.

00:28:34.460 It's not a spoiler.

00:28:35.520 All I'm saying is.

00:28:36.580 It's not a spoiler.

00:28:37.680 Let's just say they end up at a movie theater whenever in movies. 1.00

00:28:41.040 I love this shit. 1.00

00:28:42.520 When they go into the movie theater. 1.00

00:28:44.160 I'll just say

00:28:45.060 If you're not making a movie

00:28:47.240 Where they're in a movie theater

00:28:48.460 Or making a movie

00:28:49.260 I don't want to hear about it

00:28:50.220 I know

00:28:51.040 Yeah I refuse to go to a movie

00:28:53.520 Where the cinema is not featured

00:28:54.680 What about like

00:28:55.900 Okay

00:28:56.740 A lot of shots in movie theaters

00:28:59.400 In movies right

00:29:00.900 Like we've seen it a thousand times

00:29:02.320 It's like

00:29:02.740 Camera rolls up

00:29:04.180 To like

00:29:04.780 The two people

00:29:05.580 And I feel like it's always

00:29:06.380 The 60s and they're smoking

00:29:07.420 Okay but like

00:29:08.400 You know the shot

00:29:09.820 Facing the people right

00:29:10.860 Which is not

00:29:11.480 How you experience

00:29:12.780 The movie theater

00:29:13.260 You're facing forward

00:29:14.000 right like like it's one of those things that like you kind of only get to experience in the

00:29:17.920 movies facing those who face the screen right because you can't really turn around and stare

00:29:24.540 and really take in no one gets to right you get quick glances yeah so it's this it's actually

00:29:31.140 like it's almost as radical as a bird's eye view yeah or something yeah totally did you see the

00:29:37.980 zone of interest oh i haven't yet oh jacqueline i haven't yet well it's the only it is only

00:29:45.120 to be seen in a movie theater it exists for a movie theater and that movie i mean everyone

00:29:52.560 else who's made a film in the last 20 years should be fucking ashamed yeah well isn't that great i 0.96

00:29:58.000 mean when when when the things someone still comes out someone still fucking reaches and 0.98

00:30:02.020 someone still has the audacity 0.92

00:30:03.560 to reach inside

00:30:04.560 and pull something out

00:30:05.400 yeah

00:30:05.640 oh my god

00:30:07.540 they'll do some

00:30:08.840 remember us going

00:30:09.740 you go

00:30:10.200 I don't

00:30:10.480 it's summer

00:30:10.940 I don't need a sweatshirt

00:30:11.900 to go to the theater

00:30:12.560 and I'm like yeah

00:30:13.240 and then I'm like

00:30:13.900 well actually

00:30:14.540 it is notoriously cold

00:30:15.740 in theaters

00:30:16.200 yeah

00:30:16.740 and thank god for you

00:30:17.540 because I did bring a sweater

00:30:18.580 and then when you did

00:30:19.820 I felt like a

00:30:20.560 eh

00:30:21.000 when I pulled it on

00:30:22.460 inside the movie

00:30:23.080 yeah

00:30:23.340 I was like yeah

00:30:24.380 it was so fun

00:30:26.180 well

00:30:27.120 we're not gonna get

00:30:29.320 into the movie

00:30:29.760 but we'll just say

00:30:30.620 that one thing

00:30:31.220 is funny 0.92

00:30:31.720 this time is that daisy's character daisy edgar jones who does refer to herself as being ugly

00:30:37.520 and normal people and i could not continue but that's what i read the book so it's the book

00:30:42.420 i'm sorry if in the book essential pivotal thing about the character is that she's busted you can't

00:30:47.600 hire a fucking movie star and also then keep the line where she goes i'm ugly cut the line or get 0.94

00:30:53.300 a new actress cut the line or get a different actor yeah okay prosthetics yeah yeah get a 1.00

00:30:57.900 prosthetic get a open wound across the top of her face yeah and something crazy or cut the line

00:31:04.620 wounds often often accentuate beauty as we all remember from next episode of dexter never saw

00:31:10.680 it but happy for michael c hall so i um uh oh but her character's name is kate and every

00:31:17.820 fucking second they say her name oh okay this is actually funny and did you have an accent we 0.69

00:31:23.040 never talked about the accent slipping coming going coming going coming going the southerns 0.99

00:31:27.500 Yeah, because there's no accent for about 25 minutes.

00:31:29.740 And suddenly she's like, she does a southern accent and it's gone again.

00:31:33.180 Well, I won't question an actor's work on Pooh, as you know.

00:31:35.900 I'm not questioning her work.

00:31:37.680 No, I just mean like, I would not, I cannot.

00:31:40.180 You didn't notice that?

00:31:41.800 No, I was stuck on how like delicate her face was and like starting thus to question my own.

00:31:46.860 Oh, right.

00:31:47.200 Jacqueline, you said the funniest thing we got in the car.

00:31:48.980 You were like, what'd you say about when you go to a movie and there's like a leading lady?

00:31:53.300 You just, you are like, she's the most beautiful woman in the world.

00:31:56.760 The most beautiful woman in the world.

00:31:57.940 The only beauty.

00:31:58.900 Yeah.

00:31:59.060 She is it.

00:31:59.840 And I stare and I go like, no, right. 1.00

00:32:02.080 That's what a fucking chin is. 0.99

00:32:03.700 That's what I just, I just do it. 0.99

00:32:05.900 And then I start to plot like, right, well, like, I don't like start to plot how I can

00:32:10.460 try to drag myself closer to her image.

00:32:14.000 I mean, you know, who's outrageously hot is what's his name?

00:32:16.840 Not Glenn Powell, but the other main man.

00:32:19.420 Sorry.

00:32:19.960 I'm stuck in this.

00:32:20.860 Shocking.

00:32:21.760 Trying to.

00:32:23.000 What? 0.96

00:32:23.340 Cheek lifts? 0.98

00:32:24.120 Yeah.

00:32:24.860 So I just, I was doing it unconsciously.

00:32:26.420 I've trained myself to do it unconsciously.

00:32:28.320 Wait, but I want to talk about something, which is there was a moment where I was trying

00:32:34.900 to say one thing to you about referencing your show, Kate.

00:32:40.180 Like, okay.

00:32:40.840 In the movie?

00:32:41.320 You, okay.

00:32:41.920 No, here's actually, here's what's huge.

00:32:44.060 Okay.

00:32:44.860 I realized like maybe 25 minutes in, I think, 30 minutes, I'm not sure, that the many times 0.90

00:32:51.260 you had looked at me like before that being like, whoa, or holy shit, or like, that's

00:32:55.920 weird or whatever whatever they're like maybe a huge portion of those were you reacting to them

00:33:01.200 saying kate no so i okay okay no no no no that's not because i was gonna say hearing my name i'm

00:33:08.200 like that's not my name hearing it wasn't until i was like that's not me that's not my name it

00:33:12.020 wasn't like huh me like like it was nothing no because whatever kate then but you did go like

00:33:18.820 it's a lot right well i did that just more than usual yeah yeah okay i was like but i started to

00:33:23.600 go was that what she did I in my head because I like you look at me and I'm interpreting all

00:33:29.140 sorts of things like you know it's so interesting I was so aware of this how you know who you're

00:33:33.220 watching with right like informs your experience of like how you're seeing it so it's like it's

00:33:41.340 like I'm I am if I'm like laughing at something it's because like I'm imagining our conversation

00:33:48.380 about what's happening yeah we're in a different setting it would just be something else so I'm

00:33:51.820 Like, I'm inherently in a silent conversation with you while we're watching.

00:33:54.980 Yeah.

00:33:55.380 And it was challenging for us to remember, like, oh, like, we're not going to talk throughout

00:34:00.060 this because I don't talk at the movies, whatever.

00:34:03.300 Not a word.

00:34:04.380 Okay.

00:34:04.740 I don't even like when people talk when it's credits start. 0.98

00:34:08.600 Get the studio logo, whatever the fuck. 0.99

00:34:10.980 Hush up. 0.99

00:34:11.860 I don't.

00:34:12.180 Oh, that's what's scary.

00:34:12.880 You go to a movie with someone that you don't usually go to the movie with and they start

00:34:15.440 going, do you think, do not say a word.

00:34:19.000 You can talk during the trailers.

00:34:20.560 Sometimes I don't even think that's appropriate.

00:34:22.560 The whole theater is silent.

00:34:24.720 Well, the whole theater should fall silent for the trailers, you know, because I'm never, I'll make this claim now. 0.97

00:34:31.940 I am never more artistically and cinematically inspired than I am when I'm watching fucking trailers, okay?

00:34:39.260 I'm not trying to talk about, like, the whole, like, I love the trailers. 0.93

00:34:42.120 They're my favorite part.

00:34:42.960 You know, that whole, like, personality characteristic of 99% of people or whatever.

00:34:47.520 Okay?

00:34:47.700 it's like I am fucking alive with every trailer that drops I mean it's almost like seeing the 0.71

00:34:55.080 woman and being like that is that is beauty I am like genius one after the next I'm like genius 0.53

00:35:00.140 genius okay it was like a whole thing but I had a panic that you thought I was gonna be one of

00:35:04.740 these texting people because I turned my phone off I turn it clean off clean off okay it's the

00:35:10.820 only truly safe way yeah okay and oh my god did I tell you what happened to me recently the thing

00:35:15.300 wait hold it sorry it's okay go go no because I just need to get it out but will you hold it

00:35:20.040 yeah yeah I will okay you got it for sure all right so because of the cacophony of

00:35:26.820 it's not the word okay but but the joy we're having okay on their way in I actually hadn't

00:35:32.980 turned it off yet when the trailers began okay or when the or whatever was happening

00:35:37.680 or the studio logos are going yeah and I had to lean over and dramatically lean over to my left

00:35:42.320 like trying to like do my phone and get it off yeah and i was scared like like i was like where

00:35:50.560 that it was creating light because it was it was it was not my usual behavior but was it not ecstasy

00:35:56.780 it was watching together it was so fun and being like well what you're saying is true it's like

00:36:01.640 because you're having a subtextual conversation the whole time it strengthens the bond you have

00:36:06.140 a song when you go to a movie with them and hence the the movie date being so romantic and intense

00:36:12.740 and hey guys so glad it's being absolutely erased from culture congratulations and i don't blame us

00:36:19.440 the consumer or i do sometimes but i don't know but the point is well anyway i think if poog did

00:36:27.160 nothing but save cinema invigorate cinema in america oh my god be great maybe that's where

00:36:33.060 we shift.

00:36:34.260 Yeah.

00:36:34.700 That needs to be

00:36:35.500 a primary focus.

00:36:36.740 Cinema.

00:36:37.120 If you're not in the cinema

00:36:38.060 once a week 0.99

00:36:39.280 and you call yourself a hag. 1.00

00:36:40.380 Yeah. 0.96

00:36:41.000 We need everyone

00:36:41.880 to be seeing

00:36:42.500 you're going to

00:36:43.940 the movie theater

00:36:44.720 twice a month.

00:36:45.560 Yeah.

00:36:45.820 Minimum.

00:36:46.620 Yeah.

00:36:47.380 Well, you need to be

00:36:48.340 imagine like

00:36:50.180 Deep Reveal

00:36:51.540 sponsored by

00:36:52.280 AMC Stubbs.

00:36:53.300 I'll take it.

00:36:54.440 Yeah.

00:36:54.680 But I'll take it eagerly.

00:36:56.140 But case for itself

00:36:57.140 if you go to a single IMAX.

00:37:00.100 IMAX is incredible.

00:37:01.080 I saw Challenger's IMAX. 0.94

00:37:02.160 I was my heart was pounding oh shit I was like I think I did too I was I think I could see like 0.65

00:37:07.360 by the way I was in IMAX was last minute challengers final row Apollo 13 0.85

00:37:13.040 final row of IMAX challengers I could see him had Tom Hanks's face distorted by by IMAX that's all

00:37:21.120 I want to say okay go on wait what oh challengers I heard challenger thing of the explosion yeah of

00:37:25.980 course of course but wait the thing I was gonna the thing I was holding on just a I was at a

00:37:30.320 professional was that a table read there it is okay um so imagine you know very hot okay everyone's

00:37:37.080 sitting down right we're gonna start it's a serious film okay death sitting at a row of tables

00:37:43.380 one of those yeah like facing a group of people who are watching correct correct right and the

00:37:50.000 script the script deals with themes of death it deals with it's an intense script okay people are

00:37:54.760 like bawling their eyes out reading this thing acting okay and are they all cast no it's more

00:38:00.500 like a workshop situation those people but honey are crying like they're going well guess who's

00:38:05.780 crying you yeah wait in your role yeah and you were not offered the role no and I knew I would

00:38:13.740 never get the role it was actually very no it was very helpful because the role had to be someone

00:38:17.540 much older than I was right and I am Jacqueline it was I was I was sitting there tears streaming

00:38:24.100 down my my face i was cry acting now i was crying no because by the way it was actually an amazing

00:38:29.860 thing because there were there were some i'm talking about some fucking real some famous

00:38:34.040 actors okay so there's some heavy hitters here and it was actually i was completely moved to 0.97

00:38:38.620 watch them work because here we are at a table read muffins and coffee they're fucking doing it

00:38:44.020 and they're i'm watching them i'm catching that i'm seeing them on their words i'm seeing them 0.98

00:38:48.380 read read read and on the final line break and sob i go whoa that's technicality this is precision 1.00

00:38:55.980 this is the the body is an instrument and you know how to fucking play it bitch holy fucking 0.99

00:39:00.900 and i go i'm over here with my fingers crossed praying to be to what first to channel god at 1.00

00:39:06.240 the right moment like no yeah no no well there it is right it's you know i'm over here mom

00:39:12.020 somerset mom you know what's that when do you write again when you write or whatever you know

00:39:17.540 do you write like like uh you know i only write when divine inspiration shows up you know luckily

00:39:23.320 divine inspiration happens between 9 a.m and 12 p.m every single day or whatever that kind of

00:39:28.940 mom i still don't understand what those words mean but yeah so that's a name or i don't know

00:39:35.060 but um but okay so so you know so we're so we're back okay wait i'm dying i'm dying okay 0.97

00:39:40.480 so you're like holy fucking shit and there's none of that we're we're jogging you know jogging 0.99

00:39:46.220 through it the jog through like we're kind of um in sweatpants like doing the dance but not doing 1.00

00:39:51.700 the dance everyone's doing it they are they are acting they are bringing it because why wouldn't

00:39:56.420 you right why wouldn't you and by the way so as this is happening and these actors are crying 0.99

00:40:01.700 i go fuck i go because my character i'm like well you know are you going to be the one that's 0.99

00:40:06.660 they can't jogging through they can't cry or whatever and then i start and then i out of and 0.99

00:40:11.260 then out of my own self-consciousness i go it's kind of embarrassing like they're over here just 0.95

00:40:14.940 crying like oh here i am look at me a big actor cut to me fucking crying i was like oh it is a

00:40:23.340 competition you know or like yeah i was like well here i go want to see me do a backflip 0.99

00:40:27.760 no no this is because i'm not formally trained i need to i need to fuck with this for a little 0.93

00:40:31.620 and by the way it came and guess what i felt the words i felt the words jacqueline the words 0.96

00:40:36.000 brought it out now okay and i was trying i never want to stop talking about this i want to talk

00:40:40.840 The next six episodes, okay?

00:40:43.120 Yeah, okay, great.

00:40:43.920 Okay, I'm speechless out of not knowing where to start.

00:40:46.940 There's so much I want to discuss here.

00:40:48.180 Okay, okay, okay.

00:40:49.440 And you know what's crazy?

00:40:50.300 This wasn't even a trust in the story.

00:40:51.880 This is a detail that I brought in last minute.

00:40:53.320 Okay, well, we'll get to that seven episodes from now.

00:40:57.720 All right, the original point.

00:41:00.020 Okay, so one, had you read the script in advance?

00:41:04.860 Yes.

00:41:06.060 Right, now you knew you weren't getting the role for real.

00:41:09.020 Like it was a favor because-

00:41:10.560 And that's why I was able to cry.

00:41:12.180 I was liberated.

00:41:12.860 Yeah, because I'm playing like a six-year-old woman.

00:41:14.820 Yeah.

00:41:15.080 Even older.

00:41:15.840 Like, it was like, this is not, I'm not being considered for this.

00:41:19.860 Now, did any of those other actors that were the big-time actors actually end up with the roles?

00:41:24.980 That has yet to be seen.

00:41:26.600 Oh, okay.

00:41:27.120 So it wasn't that long ago.

00:41:28.480 I mean, it just was like not super recently, but it was recently, yeah.

00:41:32.880 So, and you'd read the whole script?

00:41:35.500 Mm-hmm.

00:41:36.220 Okay, so. 0.99

00:41:37.020 Thinking about the pastries they had, I go, God damn, this is top shelf. 0.98

00:41:39.540 I took some home. 0.99

00:41:40.560 Not everyone else did.

00:41:42.460 Were there boxes to put them in?

00:41:44.000 Beautiful.

00:41:44.580 There were boxes to put them in?

00:41:45.840 No.

00:41:49.680 Like my dream?

00:41:50.320 I'm talking about big, flaky, beautiful croissants.

00:41:52.640 I'm talking about huge muffins.

00:41:53.360 And how did you palm them, my man?

00:41:55.280 Because it was the end of the table read.

00:41:56.760 Everyone's peeling off.

00:41:57.500 They're going loose.

00:41:58.020 I look over.

00:41:59.640 Paper towels.

00:42:00.880 Wrapped up a paper towel.

00:42:02.300 Okay.

00:42:02.880 I took a muffin and a huge flaky croissant.

00:42:06.460 See, imagine if those sort of catered settings, right?

00:42:09.940 Like, let's just say they've gone for it where it's like from like a bakery or something that like they're proud to have gotten it from. 0.96

00:42:16.100 They should have the boxes and the fucking ribbons on the side. 0.98

00:42:18.680 Yeah. 0.99

00:42:18.980 Take it to go.

00:42:19.640 Tongs.

00:42:20.100 Yeah.

00:42:20.300 You can have them there, whatever, whatever.

00:42:22.860 But then like who isn't going to grab the box and tong in and a piece of tissue and tong in two croissants and bring it home?

00:42:30.540 Totally.

00:42:31.380 Totally.

00:42:31.680 And then all those actors have spread the good word of the pastry company.

00:42:38.380 Wouldn't that just be lovely?

00:42:39.520 It would.

00:42:48.640 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.

00:42:52.700 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.

00:42:57.980 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune.

00:43:01.860 It was hard to wrap your head around.

00:43:03.200 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

00:43:06.840 No, I am not your guru.

00:43:10.620 And back then, I lied to my parents, I lied to police, I lied to everybody.

00:43:15.500 There were years, right, where I could not say your name.

00:43:18.600 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,

00:43:21.280 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,

00:43:24.100 whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.

00:43:27.460 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods

00:43:30.380 and not the obvious boyfriend?

00:43:31.780 They have had this case for 30 years. 1.00

00:43:34.820 I'll teach you sons of bitches. Come round here with my wife. 1.00

00:43:37.980 Boom. Boom. This is The Red Weather. 1.00

00:43:42.220 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:43:49.980 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, from The Girlfriends,

00:43:53.420 the number one hit true crime show that puts women right in the center of their own stories.

00:43:59.880 I'm back with more one-off interviews 0.97

00:44:02.000 with some truly kick-ass women on The Girlfriend's Spotlight. 1.00

00:44:06.920 I want to introduce you to Sylvia. 0.97

00:44:09.440 I'm going to climb this.

00:44:11.800 And then there's Vaisaka.

00:44:13.920 Let's see how we can stop killing and save lives.

00:44:18.040 Leila dared to ask the question.

00:44:20.500 Is badness hereditary?

00:44:22.540 And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.

00:44:24.660 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived,

00:44:27.280 She wouldn't have died on that fatal night.

00:44:30.540 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,

00:44:32.140 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.

00:44:35.200 I'm not too intimidated by her.

00:44:36.600 What are you talking about? 1.00

00:44:39.540 Listen to The Girlfriend Spotlight

00:44:41.360 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

00:44:43.900 or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:44:57.280 It's Messed Up, an SVU podcast.

00:44:59.140 We recap iconic episodes, then talk to the stars who lived them.

00:45:02.880 Like the legendary Matthew Lillard, who will never forget his time on SVU.

00:45:07.120 I do remember the mustache.

00:45:09.300 I would get a meme of that mustache like every like six days.

00:45:14.840 I'd be like, what was this?

00:45:18.660 Each week we cover the crimes, analyze the plot holes and insult the outfits.

00:45:23.440 Benson goes to talk to Kelly to like tell her the news,

00:45:26.380 but is wearing a beret. 0.98

00:45:28.380 Not the time for a silly hat, Benson. 0.97

00:45:30.860 What are you doing? 0.96

00:45:32.740 New episodes drop every Tuesday

00:45:34.480 on the Exactly Right Network.

00:45:36.140 Listen to That's Messed Up

00:45:37.440 on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

00:45:39.540 or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:45:42.380 Dun-dun!

00:45:46.940 Crook and Chase Nashville chats

00:45:48.560 with the true-life adventures

00:45:49.980 of hot new country star Hudson Westbrook.

00:45:51.920 Early in his career,

00:45:53.020 he shocked his mom more than once,

00:45:55.020 and we even shocked him on what we had to do to get to visit with him.

00:45:59.760 I've seen some people do some crazy things, but nothing like that.

00:46:02.640 Plus, what Hudson almost had in common with Billy Bob Thornton.

00:46:06.560 Crook and Chase Nashville Chats with Hudson Westbrook.

00:46:09.140 Listen and subscribe on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

00:46:21.300 Wait, so what were you so overwhelmed by that you wanted to get into?

00:46:23.940 I don't even know where to begin.

00:46:25.020 Okay, so you'd read the script.

00:46:29.100 When reading the script, did you go, oh, I'm going to have to cry?

00:46:31.680 Or did you go, oh, I was like, I'm not going to actually,

00:46:34.780 I'm like, there's no world where they're going to expect me to cry here.

00:46:37.840 Right, so you went in without that concern.

00:46:39.740 Yeah.

00:46:40.620 It starts, how deep into the script, you know, how many pages,

00:46:45.120 you know, roughly slash minutes do you enter?

00:46:47.460 Oh, I enter quite early, but the crying stuff isn't until the end.

00:46:51.420 How early are other characters crying in this film? 0.98

00:46:53.440 um quite early a few of them okay so you realize it's a steady stream you know i go oh shit they're 0.98

00:46:59.460 fucking bringing it i'm like this is this is exciting this is a thrill to watch i was moved 0.98

00:47:02.820 at first you go this is ridiculous or not but i mean first not ridiculous i just was like i just 0.99

00:47:08.260 was like wow these are real actors and they're really able to go there and did you immediately 0.96

00:47:13.880 go oh shit it's on i have to i have to do it too or or was there a refusal of the call okay was 0.89

00:47:19.380 there a period of arguing with whether or not you should even try? I think the reason I was able to 0.97

00:47:25.440 is that I was like, well, I'm not doing that. You freed yourself. I was like, A, I can't.

00:47:31.680 Yeah. I was like, I can't do it. And I'm not going to because I don't need to. What do I have

00:47:37.100 to prove? Apparently I did have something to prove. Yeah. Okay. So you start realizing around

00:47:43.580 20 minutes in or whatever it's happening. Tears are happening for people, right? Yeah. And you

00:47:47.600 know that your crying scene isn't until like last 10 pages yeah okay so at what point do you start

00:47:55.840 to go i'm gonna try i'm and i'm talking about people are crying like blowing their nose like

00:47:59.160 crying crying okay and are they actually blowing their nose do they have tissues there yeah

00:48:03.380 can you do an impression without the you know a dry impression the level of crying yeah 0.99

00:48:09.160 like that level and then sorry not a snort but like a that kind of shit 0.99

00:48:17.300 yeah yeah like yep holy shit it fucking rock they were good too they were good yeah i was like 0.99

00:48:25.960 holy shit and do you think they've been preparing no not intensely i really don't think you think 0.98

00:48:31.900 right i think they'd read it i mean maybe yeah but like i don't think it was like a lot of 0.90

00:48:36.800 preparation no i mean eventually when we see what this movie is and who's in it that's going to add

00:48:42.320 a lot to the story and I'm excited for that. Say nothing now. Yeah, of course not. So do you start

00:48:47.340 to think I should go hunting into my personal history to dredge up emotion now? So, so here is

00:48:54.860 why I think I was able to get emotional is that I, I hadn't been crying that morning, but I had on

00:48:59.620 the drive there not thinking about, I just was kind of like, it wasn't, I was not far away from

00:49:08.120 intense emotion yeah even if i hadn't been crying like i was just yeah yeah um but wait let me can

00:49:18.420 tell you where the story was really about oh yeah picture this we're about halfway through

00:49:22.940 someone's cried but we're not in the thick of the crying but it's still heavy

00:49:26.760 i start to hear it's not loud but i hear a phone alarm clearly going off okay and it's not loud

00:49:35.700 it's kind of like

00:49:36.980 it's like a gentle one

00:49:40.400 but I hear it

00:49:41.900 it's still going

00:49:43.340 and again it's not even super disruptive

00:49:46.420 because it's like quiet enough

00:49:48.020 but you're like everyone's probably kind of like

00:49:50.600 of course

00:49:51.520 trying to ignore it hoping it stops

00:49:53.000 so I'm kind of sitting there mortified for the person

00:49:55.960 whoever it is

00:49:56.660 so I'm sitting there mortifying

00:50:01.220 for who it is

00:50:03.140 and then

00:50:05.120 it, it, it goes on kind of so persistently that I kind of do the obligatory kind of looking around

00:50:11.580 a little bit like, Oh no. And I even think to myself, they kind of like to register, like

00:50:16.500 really knowing you're not going to do it. Yeah. And then, and then I even thought, Oh, you know

00:50:20.240 what? It probably, cause there's a couple of older people. It's probably someone just older

00:50:24.260 and just like, they don't get it, you know, starts to keep going. It goes on for kind of long enough.

00:50:30.800 I go, okay, like, is there a world in which this is me?

00:50:35.240 And I go—

00:50:35.840 Is anyone else doing the obligatory look around?

00:50:37.760 Not really.

00:50:38.640 I mean, kind of.

00:50:39.780 But so then I look.

00:50:42.400 I go into my purse.

00:50:44.520 It's me.

00:50:45.220 It's me.

00:50:46.060 Oh, Jesus.

00:50:46.580 It's an alarm that I had set.

00:50:48.620 Because normally I would turn my phone clean off.

00:50:50.820 But there was a parking—whatever. 0.99

00:50:52.100 The point is, I'd set my fucking alarm for a parking thing. 0.98

00:50:57.500 It's—who cares? 0.99

00:50:58.820 Of course.

00:50:59.080 And it was not loud enough to be like, it wasn't full hell.

00:51:04.360 But of course it was like, and, and, and was there,

00:51:08.220 were you able to pull off almost a like act like you discover that it wasn't

00:51:13.640 you in your bag, but like carefully turn it off and then start looking around. 0.99

00:51:17.900 Everyone fucking knew. 0.99

00:51:19.120 I had to do a big, Oh my God. 0.99

00:51:21.740 You know, but I, but I kept it subtle, but here's the thing.

00:51:24.040 Everyone, I think I just, I just did kind of like,

00:51:27.760 Ignorable for those who wanted to ignore it.

00:51:29.780 I kind of like, you know, grabbed my heart and was like, oh my God.

00:51:33.040 Immortification.

00:51:34.040 But everyone staring straight ahead didn't even give me the acknowledgement.

00:51:39.040 I think out of respect.

00:51:40.400 Sometimes you have to do it for the gods, yeah. 1.00

00:51:42.380 Yeah, yeah, but fuck. 1.00

00:51:43.760 Or for he who might. 1.00

00:51:44.680 And by the way, peripheral vision cannot be ignored.

00:51:47.140 They saw the gestures.

00:51:48.780 Oh, they saw, they saw, they saw.

00:51:50.000 They saw the shrinking.

00:51:52.260 The obsolete shame.

00:51:53.180 I always saw the stage, playing for the back of the room, body movements of shame.

00:52:01.000 God.

00:52:01.680 So did you ever consider like, okay, as my pages approach, holding my eyeballs open,

00:52:09.800 like, you know, not blinking, like literally like physical product or like, you know,

00:52:13.600 like pinching your nose or whatever.

00:52:15.800 Like your tweezing nose hair.

00:52:16.880 There you go.

00:52:17.720 To cry.

00:52:18.200 Your eyes will water.

00:52:18.980 I'm saying like eye watering tricks.

00:52:20.220 Was there any, like, maybe I should do a—

00:52:22.880 I guess you were like, I have to emotionally get there, not at all.

00:52:25.340 Yeah, I just—I think it's because I went in thinking I'm not going to cry.

00:52:28.740 And then, like, what happened?

00:52:30.020 Which people always say, so it irritates me.

00:52:31.960 Say you're not going to cry, you're not going to cry, then you'll cry.

00:52:33.840 Right.

00:52:35.200 But, like, I mean, could it be that easy?

00:52:37.960 I don't know.

00:52:38.320 this is writer strong and i have a new podcast called the red weather it was many and many a

00:52:53.520 year ago in a kingdom by the sea in 1995 my neighbor and a trainer disappeared from a commune

00:53:00.260 it was hard to wrap your head around it was nature and trees and praying and drugs no i am not your

00:53:07.260 and back then i lied to my parents i lied to police i lied to everybody there were years

00:53:14.900 right where i could not say your name i've decided to go back to my hometown in northern

00:53:18.820 california interview my friends family talk to police journalists whomever i can to try to find

00:53:24.060 out what actually happened isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods

00:53:28.680 and not the obvious boyfriend they have had this case for 30 years i'll teach you sons of

00:53:34.340 You come around here with my wife.

00:53:36.300 Boom, boom.

00:53:37.620 This is The Red Weather.

00:53:40.600 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app,

00:53:43.200 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:53:48.360 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, from The Girlfriends,

00:53:51.420 the number one hit true crime show

00:53:54.060 that puts women right in the center of their own stories.

00:53:58.280 I'm back with more one-off interviews 1.00

00:54:00.320 with some truly kick-ass women on The Girlfriend's Spotlight. 1.00

00:54:05.260 I want to introduce you to Sylvia. 0.97

00:54:07.740 I'm going to climb this.

00:54:10.120 And then there's Vaisaka.

00:54:12.220 Let's see how we can stop killing and save lives.

00:54:16.340 Leila dared to ask the question.

00:54:18.840 Is badness hereditary?

00:54:20.860 And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.

00:54:22.960 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived,

00:54:25.800 she wouldn't have died on that fatal night.

00:54:28.340 You'll even get to meet my mom in that one

00:54:30.340 Who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground

00:54:33.180 I'm not too intimidated by her

00:54:34.840 What are you talking about? 1.00

00:54:37.860 Listen to The Girlfriend Spotlight

00:54:39.680 On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts

00:54:42.200 Or wherever you get your podcasts

00:54:44.200 Hi, I'm Lisa Trager

00:54:50.200 And I'm Cara Clank

00:54:51.420 We're comedians and your favorite

00:54:52.980 Overly invested SVU watchers

00:54:55.060 On That's Messed Up, an SVU podcast

00:54:57.140 We recap iconic episodes, then talk to the stars who lived them.

00:55:01.180 Like the legendary Matthew Lillard, who will never forget his time on SVU.

00:55:05.440 I do remember the mustache.

00:55:07.600 I would get a meme of that mustache like every like six days.

00:55:13.140 I'd be like, what was this?

00:55:16.980 Each week we cover the crimes, analyze the plot holes and insult the outfits.

00:55:21.980 Benson goes to talk to Kelly to like tell her the news, but is wearing a beret. 0.97

00:55:26.700 Not the time for a silly hat, Benson. 0.93

00:55:29.160 What are you doing? 0.91

00:55:31.060 New episodes drop every Tuesday on the Exactly Right Network.

00:55:34.440 Listen to That's Messed Up on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:55:40.680 Dun-dun!

00:55:45.240 Crook and Chase Nashville chats with the true-life adventures of hot new country star Hudson Westbrook.

00:55:50.220 Early in his career, he shocked his mom more than once.

00:55:53.320 And we even shocked him on what we had to do to get to visit with him.

00:55:58.080 I've seen some people do some crazy things, but nothing like that.

00:56:00.980 Plus what Hudson almost had in common with Billy Bob Thornton.

00:56:04.880 Crook and Chase Nashville Chats with Hudson Westbrook.

00:56:07.460 Listen and subscribe on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

00:56:19.380 Wait, you know we got a text, you know we got a message from one of your doctors.

00:56:23.260 Excuse me?

00:56:24.180 I've been responding to him this morning with our addresses.

00:56:27.400 How dare you?

00:56:27.900 What do you mean?

00:56:28.620 Who?

00:56:29.180 What do you mean, how dare I? 1.00

00:56:30.420 Not tell me that one of my fucking gods— 1.00

00:56:32.360 I forgot. 1.00

00:56:32.880 I forgot.

00:56:33.120 I don't know if it's one of your gods.

00:56:34.300 Doctor, you posted something of his eating goes, oh, thanks so much.

00:56:38.380 He sent a voice note.

00:56:39.160 You can go back and listen.

00:56:39.900 He's talking.

00:56:40.400 He's like, hey, thanks.

00:56:41.440 I'd love to send you this in Jacqueline's face right now.

00:56:46.020 Jacqueline's face.

00:56:47.780 Okay.

00:56:48.880 My pulse is raised.

00:56:50.680 Do you understand?

00:56:51.060 like i'm literally terrified that i missed that i missed it that i can't get in now that you can

00:56:56.480 get in listen you posted because you said plant diversity you said plant diversity and he posted

00:57:01.600 a salad yes and did i did i tag dr b he responded with a with a voice note oh and he goes like

00:57:08.800 thank you so much he's like i'd love to send you guys some some prebiotics that i made he's like

00:57:14.340 and also i'd love to have you try my new program zoe or something zoe oh hell yeah you know what

00:57:20.540 and in our speckle samples

00:57:21.900 and join like a microbiome

00:57:24.120 like community

00:57:25.240 that's advancing research.

00:57:26.600 Will you play Dr. B's message?

00:57:27.900 Oh my God.

00:57:28.240 Yeah, we got the phone.

00:57:29.320 I'm just terrified and scared.

00:57:30.420 I'm excited.

00:57:32.320 They're like,

00:57:32.820 like jealousy,

00:57:33.920 almost like,

00:57:34.400 like Kate's like,

00:57:35.040 yeah, I've been corresponding

00:57:35.680 with him all morning.

00:57:36.540 I'm like,

00:57:37.580 huh, he's going to disappear

00:57:38.860 like a ghost.

00:57:40.700 It's wild.

00:57:42.620 I'm like nervous.

00:57:44.020 Isn't that weird?

00:57:44.680 He's excited.

00:57:45.160 I'm nervous.

00:57:45.880 He was very friendly.

00:57:47.340 Okay, hang on.

00:57:47.740 I'll find it.

00:57:48.180 He's very friendly.

00:57:48.880 I'll find it.

00:57:49.080 Don't you worry.

00:57:49.880 From what I've seen.

00:57:50.540 dr b that's who it was okay here he is i'm scared i'm scared i'm scared hey team happy wednesday

00:57:57.440 i just wanted to say hey it's dr b here um thank you for the shout out i'm quite honored

00:58:03.740 and gentlemen and i noticed some of the other um brands that you were sharing some of them are my

00:58:11.960 are my friends so like playing strong with rip pestleston he's my buddy hell yeah what a

00:58:16.260 I don't know if you'd have any interest, but I'm the U.S. medical director of a company called Zoe. 0.99

00:58:22.360 Oh, shit, sure am. 0.96

00:58:23.480 We have a personalized nutrition program, and we're all about plant diversity. 0.99

00:58:27.260 So if you have any interest, I would love to get you set up with a kit so you can check it out.

00:58:31.880 Here we go.

00:58:33.980 Also, I'm not sure how much you follow my work, but I launched a supplement company this year called 38 Terra.

00:58:41.220 And we have a very hot prebiotic supplement.

00:58:44.540 Oh, hot prebiotic.

00:58:46.260 I'm going to send you some to check out.

00:58:48.480 It's been quite popular.

00:58:50.880 So I'm quite excited about it.

00:58:53.140 So anyway.

00:58:55.060 Oh my God, the smiling.

00:58:56.380 Dr. B.

00:58:56.980 Great to meet you.

00:58:58.480 Thank you.

00:58:58.900 I love that.

00:59:00.020 Dr. B is so cool.

00:59:01.700 There's two interviews with him on Ritual.

00:59:03.260 Oh, he wrote Fiber Fueled.

00:59:04.540 You sent me a screen grab to read it.

00:59:06.400 Yes.

00:59:07.220 Two-time New York Times bestseller.

00:59:09.940 He's living in Charleston.

00:59:11.780 His appearance on Ritual.

00:59:14.800 He looks like Paul Dano.

00:59:15.880 kind of only one picture okay from one angle well he's he's got a lot of video yeah i yeah i

00:59:23.880 appreciate how in the book he's like talks about like you know college eating poorly you know it's

00:59:27.780 funny like when like because again because i watch these videos my brain is completely rotted

00:59:32.400 um my favorite thing is people trying to get because now it's like every actress every act 0.98

00:59:38.460 everyone is like here's how i make my morning thing and it's like shut the fuck up you know 0.94

00:59:44.800 it's like everyone's doing, 0.98

00:59:45.580 I mean,

00:59:45.680 they're just trying to respond to what they think are market interests.

00:59:49.200 No,

00:59:49.300 but it's like,

00:59:50.040 here's how I make my morning turmeric latte.

00:59:53.020 And it's like,

00:59:53.920 we know literally two year olds know how to do this now.

00:59:56.800 10 year olds know how to do this.

00:59:58.280 Like to make a turmeric latte.

00:59:59.640 Yeah.

00:59:59.960 It's like,

01:00:00.220 this is just like government.

01:00:01.440 Shave up the turmeric or use powder and had your,

01:00:04.560 your choice.

01:00:05.380 Black pepper to make it biodiverse or bioaccessible.

01:00:07.760 We know.

01:00:08.400 Yeah.

01:00:08.520 But,

01:00:08.760 but my favorite thing is when people do this thing now.

01:00:12.000 Dr. Greger does not say that.

01:00:13.400 He has not brought that up. 0.99

01:00:14.640 Shut up. 0.83

01:00:15.260 So I wonder if it's a myth. 1.00

01:00:17.340 Whoa.

01:00:18.000 Maybe I think it's a myth.

01:00:19.460 But wait, I'm trying to, I don't know.

01:00:21.640 I'll have to look.

01:00:22.120 Look how sci-fi my hair clip stuck to my arm looks.

01:00:25.120 Yeah.

01:00:25.360 At first I thought it was a spider bracelet.

01:00:28.460 Yeah.

01:00:29.120 Okay.

01:00:29.480 So, oh, so when people do this thing now, and they're, I don't know who these people

01:00:35.260 are, but they go, I get fed them on the algorithm.

01:00:37.520 They go into a grocery store and they'll pick up, say, a jar of Jif and they'll go,

01:00:43.940 jif is loaded with and it's like it's like they're um they're like debunking it's like

01:00:49.140 we no they have like danimals they're like dan and danibles more like sugar nanibles

01:00:54.860 25 grand it's like get away no i know they're like it's so funny you're saying no no like

01:01:02.100 random like oh trying to get in the game trying to get in the wellness game well the game the game

01:01:07.200 is absolutely, I mean, except with, here's the joke. They're not. Okay. Because they can get

01:01:14.240 into the algorithm. Like I remember thinking in like, you know, 1986, like it's too late to start

01:01:19.820 a blog. Like everyone's already got one. You know what I mean? And it was not too late to start a

01:01:24.400 podcast. No, it's never too late to start anything. I say. That's true. I mean, like,

01:01:32.800 Like, and also a lot of times there's a dearth in the moments where, you know, everyone thinks, oh, no one's doing that anymore.

01:01:39.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:01:40.720 Competition thins.

01:01:41.900 Don't I look like, because of the light on my shiny skin, doesn't it look like Botox or something?

01:01:48.280 Sure. Yeah, yeah, totally. Like shine. Yeah, totally.

01:01:51.140 Meanwhile, it's not.

01:01:52.000 You look like a Christmas soldier. You look like a Tin Man.

01:01:55.940 Exactly. That's what I mean by how I look like Buzz Lightyear.

01:01:58.180 It's like, what's his name? Tom Hanks in like Polar Express?

01:02:00.900 where it's skin

01:02:01.980 but it's not skin

01:02:02.860 it's a man

01:02:03.360 but it's not a man

01:02:04.040 yeah I'm like

01:02:05.140 I'm like

01:02:06.200 um

01:02:06.420 sir

01:02:07.340 like

01:02:08.760 yeah

01:02:10.160 yeah I'm like a Christmas toy

01:02:11.320 like a wooden Christmas toy

01:02:12.820 like anime

01:02:13.380 like waxy

01:02:14.420 god I can't wait for Christmas 0.99

01:02:15.500 fucking get it here now 1.00

01:02:16.840 I'm done with this shit 1.00

01:02:17.640 well the road to Christmas 1.00

01:02:18.720 is almost here

01:02:19.620 once again

01:02:20.460 wait what was I gonna say though

01:02:22.260 I'm having my first appointment

01:02:25.780 with a naturopath

01:02:27.000 tomorrow

01:02:28.080 the way you make appointments

01:02:29.500 it's like

01:02:30.060 I'm so jealous

01:02:31.360 I was on the waiting list

01:02:32.080 how you do it

01:02:32.340 you knock it out

01:02:33.100 you get the appointments 1.00

01:02:34.200 I want her in my mix

01:02:35.260 it's like very not

01:02:35.440 my expression of ADD

01:02:37.800 yeah

01:02:38.780 making the appointments

01:02:40.340 appointments are where I

01:02:41.680 thrive

01:02:42.660 it's almost the only place

01:02:43.860 I can go

01:02:44.280 maybe you should make mine

01:02:44.780 maybe we could

01:02:46.000 empower each other

01:02:46.960 by doing the things

01:02:47.680 for each other

01:02:48.160 that are

01:02:48.500 oh that's cool

01:02:49.080 hard for us

01:02:49.780 yeah yeah I like that

01:02:51.080 you've helped me

01:02:52.220 what's my thing

01:02:53.040 that you've helped me with

01:02:53.780 I don't know

01:02:54.520 a couple things

01:02:55.180 actually I found

01:02:56.720 we have to start posting

01:02:57.740 I found like an old

01:02:58.980 screen grab of a diagram that you had made for me because I was OCD spiraling couldn't pick a

01:03:04.160 an airline seat and you had made a little thing for me of like if you sat here you could or like

01:03:10.260 it was like it was like should I should I international coach flight like what's the best

01:03:14.440 one to oh yeah well there also was I drew live there was live drawing via digital touch when

01:03:20.920 you were in one seat trying to decide if when the plane took off you could make a leap for the row

01:03:27.020 that was empty but there was someone ahead of you like in front of you who had better access to the

01:03:32.620 role that was empty yes so we were discussing so I needed an exact layout and you were describing

01:03:38.380 it I was like no one ahead and two over I'm like so the middle is a four section or three and I was

01:03:42.460 drawing digital touch and then being like okay okay and then being like is this what it looks

01:03:46.560 like this is your situation yeah yeah little boxes amazing I'm gonna find it I'm gonna find it

01:03:51.100 which is very sweet isn't it funny i'll just say those days you wake up last night okay so last

01:03:57.600 night i want to say that i had the sadness kind of and then i was like it's fine it's fine we have

01:04:01.620 to go through you know it's like we can't all you know it's fine yeah it's temporary it actually

01:04:06.060 wasn't sadness it was loneliness okay but i'm surprised i didn't get a request last night you

01:04:11.260 had dinner i thought we were gonna hang you had dinner plans your dinner plans last night true i

01:04:15.280 did yeah because you everyone was like people were working like i just reached out i was like wow 0.98

01:04:20.040 was one of those things you'd be like oh i really told myself i'd write tonight whatever the fuck

01:04:23.500 i'm not actually i'm in greece literally texted a friend who i haven't seen in 10 000 years

01:04:28.460 dinner tonight i'm in greece okay and then i go no no then i turned my mind this is good this is

01:04:35.740 good but i need i need to be alone you know of course and and it was i want to be clear too

01:04:40.100 it's not like oh my partner's out of town i can't be alone i'm screw i'm crawling up the walls i've

01:04:45.060 been in my house on lockdown for weeks like you know recuperate I haven't had I haven't been to

01:04:50.860 a restaurant I was thinking about this in three weeks I've not been to a restaurant yeah I've not

01:04:55.860 had a goddamn cocktail I wanted my birthday you know so anyway yeah you've been very noble about

01:05:03.000 that but I assumed you knew we were all gonna pull it together and when you were feeling better no 0.98

01:05:06.760 of course I didn't know I didn't think you wanted the no I didn't want broth no I you know what I'm

01:05:11.580 saying the like i considered making when i came over like that first night like yeah okay am i

01:05:15.980 doing like a somber like like am i doing a like let's make the best of this tiara moment i love

01:05:21.880 you no no no i've always been like when i'm feeling better it's great we'll go to dinner

01:05:25.640 oh but i was gonna say went to bed oh right spiraling the other way all right the morning

01:05:30.700 washes away okay but then yeah and it was the thing where i was and i was i want to be clear

01:05:34.780 i wasn't getting into bed like beside myself i had a completely fine evening but i was just kind

01:05:38.880 of like i there's probably this one i got the text like um have you watched the bubble law like

01:05:44.340 pretty good a text about you're watching television maybe the the perfect wife oh yeah

01:05:50.640 watch perfect wife you were like was that perfect wife kind of rocks no but i'll just say stick it

01:05:56.080 out it's only three episodes have you not watched it jacqueline i would really think that you'd

01:06:00.380 watch that immediately that it launched where is it hulu big h what is it who is it what is it

01:06:06.380 Oh, honey, it's only the number one thing, I think.

01:06:09.900 It's, I mean, I'll just, this isn't giving anything away.

01:06:12.580 I would never dare.

01:06:13.560 A missing woman.

01:06:14.880 That's all I'm going to say.

01:06:16.320 What more do you got to know?

01:06:17.940 You have to watch it tonight.

01:06:19.360 No, I mean.

01:06:19.860 Watch it tonight, please.

01:06:21.600 I'm like, did I?

01:06:22.380 Did I?

01:06:23.060 No.

01:06:23.860 I mean, did I watch it?

01:06:25.060 Woman kidnapped Sherry Papini.

01:06:27.920 That's the main act?

01:06:29.140 Mm-hmm. 1.00

01:06:29.700 That's the main, I mean, that's the woman. 0.99

01:06:31.220 Yeah. 0.91

01:06:31.680 Who goes missing?

01:06:32.560 but she she's present in the film i mean she's not interviewed is that what you mean

01:06:38.660 interviewed no i mean i'm sorry it's her story there yeah she's the protagonist yes um

01:06:45.420 oh i just was gonna say that i went to bed kind of going i'm ready for new energy because you

01:06:52.420 know and again like you know i haven't been feeling well but i've been turning a corner

01:06:55.600 Really, really have been.

01:06:57.720 Woke up, eyes open.

01:06:59.780 I go, it's a new day.

01:07:04.200 Get up, period dropped instantly.

01:07:07.660 Energy I haven't had in weeks.

01:07:11.460 Yeah.

01:07:12.360 Yeah.

01:07:13.100 You know, I was analyzing you in the privacy of my own mind

01:07:16.440 and thinking about how you,

01:07:17.940 you were doing this thing when I was coming over

01:07:21.420 and then you were pitching, let's go to the movie.

01:07:23.140 And I was trying to figure out where it was coming from.

01:07:25.600 If you were convincing yourself or you were convincing me, like, you know what I mean?

01:07:29.380 Because obviously you do a lot of like live convincing of self, you know, like the contextualization of why your choice is correct.

01:07:37.380 Yeah, of course, of course.

01:07:38.920 So, like, no, no, no, this is actually good.

01:07:41.800 You know, like that's a classic, right?

01:07:43.100 Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

01:07:44.000 It's good no one's free.

01:07:44.900 You were like, you were like, it's, you're like, you're like, what did you say?

01:07:48.060 Like, almost like, it's weird.

01:07:49.900 Like, you're like, you're like, it's, it's weird how much I'm crawling up the walls.

01:07:53.980 or like or like you're like you're like suddenly it's like i'm i don't know stir crazy like you

01:07:58.100 were using this kind of like language of like it's like it's really odd but all of a sudden i'm

01:08:03.920 extremely sure i don't remember saying that was it that you were you did you think that pitching

01:08:09.980 going to a movie was going to maybe disappoint me and you needed you're like i'm weirdly stir

01:08:14.140 crazy that's what i'm talking about it's like i'm weirdly stir crazy yeah it's like a thing you do

01:08:18.100 here's what it was because remember before you left i was like but come back right because i was

01:08:21.540 like i was so excited to have a cozy night in with you laughing watching tv yes and i thought

01:08:26.800 okay so that's really important to me is that going away now because i put twisters on right

01:08:31.440 but you didn't express that at that time i think that's what it was about though it was

01:08:34.420 subconscious secretly yeah not even secretly i think it was just secret to the self most

01:08:39.120 most is secret to the self as we know yeah i mean what do we know the self is purely a fiction

01:08:45.800 What?

01:08:46.600 What do we know less than ourselves?

01:08:51.040 Who do you know less than yourself?

01:08:52.720 There it is.

01:08:53.280 Oh, by the way, Not Mothers is our merch.

01:08:55.200 I realized it.

01:08:55.760 And by the way, to be clear, that is not—

01:08:57.980 K-N-O-T.

01:08:58.580 K-N-O-T includes the two characters as described.

01:09:03.500 How about this?

01:09:04.220 And everyone vote in.

01:09:05.420 Is it a yin-yang?

01:09:06.560 Is it a yin-yang?

01:09:07.860 Not Mother, N-O-T, and then Not Mother, K-N-O-T.

01:09:11.700 Yeah, or it's—I mean, the symbol and the image—

01:09:15.180 image but knowing that not mothers i just want to clarify this very clearly not mothers means it

01:09:21.280 occurred it includes both non-mothers who have a knot in their stomach and it includes not mothers

01:09:26.780 as in mother it covers both it is the shrinking down of the sentiment into a single term and so

01:09:35.220 it's huge it is the acknowledgement okay i got it out yeah i was struggling no i mean this is the

01:09:42.140 thing this is all about integrating integrating the shadow integrating it's it's you know we have

01:09:48.140 to it's huge being able to accept two realities at once it's the only way forward um okay well

01:09:53.000 i gotta go all right we gotta go okay it's over all right love you bye

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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - July 30, 2024

The Most Beautiful Woman in the World

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