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00:02:39.300 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:40.780 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:02:41.900 And this is Poogh, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

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00:02:53.800 Today's topic, loosely speaking, Dr. Abe Wallace.

00:02:57.500 It's fatal.

00:02:58.740 Sun-gazing community.

00:03:03.060 It's interesting.

00:03:04.300 Hi.

00:03:04.900 It's interesting due to, hello, due to, you know, being sent a video clip from the week

00:03:11.640 and going, wow, you know.

00:03:14.660 I mean, visually what we look like?

00:03:16.240 Yeah, yeah.

00:03:16.940 Everyone knows, maybe they don't know, but it's ghastly.

00:03:21.780 when you wear those big the big cans they push your face forward chipmunk style because I saw

00:03:27.920 a video of my it's actually worth going to take a look at if you haven't folks the video of myself

00:03:31.960 that's like it's as though I had been it's like it's like a sliding doors of like me if I were

00:03:39.580 someone else like if I lived a destructive life thing I've ever seen it's like I'm fine with it

00:03:47.200 but I just was like

00:03:49.480 that is really not me

00:03:51.400 but it is me and that's what we have to

00:03:53.940 reckon with in those moments

00:03:54.960 the you that's not you

00:03:57.140 well it's like that whole

00:04:00.900 and I get really confused about you know the mirror

00:04:03.340 versus the whatever but the whole like

00:04:05.060 oh god have you seen those videos

00:04:06.600 you know the mirror slipped

00:04:07.740 have you seen those videos 0.82

00:04:11.020 where they bring a girl over to a mirror

00:04:12.980 it's not flipped

00:04:13.940 and she starts crying

00:04:15.840 they're like

00:04:16.960 they're like

00:04:17.260 this is what the world sees

00:04:18.820 and she's like

00:04:19.820 and they're like

00:04:21.280 yeah

00:04:21.860 it's not flipped

00:04:22.740 and she's like

00:04:23.120 and like flips out

00:04:25.920 because we never

00:04:27.440 but it's not what

00:04:28.540 but a photo

00:04:29.540 photos aren't flipped

00:04:30.980 but

00:04:32.500 that's why we're constantly

00:04:34.100 confused

00:04:35.020 like

00:04:35.600 that's why we're constantly

00:04:36.620 looking at our photos

00:04:37.360 being like what

00:04:38.460 is that

00:04:39.460 yeah who's that

00:04:40.220 it's like yep 1.00

00:04:40.800 that's you bitch 1.00

00:04:41.720 that busted ass 1.00

00:04:43.860 person is you 0.99

00:04:45.700 Well, I feel like I've suffered by not, I think we talked about this, but I've suffered by not spending a lot of time in the mirror doing faces and basically seeing what my faces look like.

00:04:56.960 Can't say I suffer from the same ailment.

00:04:58.800 I know.

00:04:59.520 Okay.

00:04:59.760 I sense this.

00:05:00.720 Okay.

00:05:01.200 And so I feel like I'm not in control of my instrument in that way.

00:05:03.980 Now, there are some benefits, comedically, of course, to have a kind of unconsciousness of the face.

00:05:12.240 But we're ultimately stuck in our jester.

00:05:15.700 i feel unconscious i feel unconscious of my face even though i have spent years in the mirror

00:05:23.460 um i've discussed as an only child that was my sibling myself in the mirror um but i'm still

00:05:31.580 shocked by faces i make or that i yeah yeah it's always a shock the face is always a shock um like

00:05:39.600 are you looking and i i mean this like right now at me when you're talking or are you right now

00:05:43.980 I look at you most of the time

00:05:45.560 just in that moment I was looking at myself

00:05:47.220 I'm always looking at you

00:05:49.360 because I get shocked then in the videos

00:05:52.040 where I can see myself

00:05:53.780 listening to you and I know

00:05:55.820 I'm staring at you because I wouldn't allow

00:05:57.860 what I'm doing with my face if I were

00:05:59.880 looking at myself do you see what I'm saying

00:06:01.520 of course

00:06:02.300 I go

00:06:03.900 do something

00:06:08.000 hold your face differently there's people

00:06:09.820 watching this is insane

00:06:10.960 I mean it is the thing about the podcast

00:06:14.560 which is so different from live

00:06:15.760 from stage performance of course

00:06:17.060 or anything else

00:06:17.700 we're talking we forget they can see

00:06:20.640 I mean hardly

00:06:21.580 you know 200 people see the videos

00:06:24.160 it's fine

00:06:24.600 and we love ya

00:06:26.360 those of you who do

00:06:27.340 by the way

00:06:28.500 by the way I said by the way

00:06:30.280 this actually has no

00:06:31.340 this is a complete non sequitur

00:06:33.160 but I have one of these now

00:06:36.120 is it Stanley brand?

00:06:38.580 it's not Stanley brand

00:06:39.600 I didn't think so

00:06:40.420 i was at whole foods and they had they were having a big summer sale big brat summer sale

00:06:44.880 of um and you know what i'm holding in my hand i've seen oh hydroflask it's hydroflask yeah

00:06:51.340 hydroflask brand but the big stanley what was that people were like there was like mob crush

00:06:57.080 people or crowd crush people were being like killed stampeding together stanley's i don't

00:07:02.780 think that's why i'm laughing but there was some not coming out with it yeah there was a mad dad

00:07:08.820 And then there was some like article that was like,

00:07:10.440 the Stanley bleach is poison into your food.

00:07:12.440 It's like, well, of course, but whatever.

00:07:13.620 And it's that it's on the outside though.

00:07:15.800 But people say still, like it's not the interior,

00:07:19.680 but it's on the outside.

00:07:21.960 And so then, because I was eyeing those,

00:07:24.760 I was like, yeah, I could kind of get into one of those.

00:07:28.100 Like, I don't care if there's cultural like meaning attached to it.

00:07:31.420 I mean, like, oh, I don't know.

00:07:33.280 Am I a loser?

00:07:34.260 Am I a... 0.99

00:07:34.480 With the sippy cup. 1.00

00:07:35.680 This loser. 1.00

00:07:36.860 Yeah. 0.99

00:07:37.020 or trad wife sippy cup yeah yeah yeah i love it i literally i'm literally like where is it when i

00:07:41.900 left it in the car the other night i was like no like it could be my friend it would boost me it'd

00:07:47.880 be like let me grab my little friend you know what i mean by the way it is a little friend

00:07:51.520 it is a little friend i have to tell you hydration through the roof really because one of these is a

00:07:58.320 little over a liter put into to a day away easily and the straw but then i've been afraid of straws 0.95

00:08:05.600 because there's always a thing of chronic use of the straw creates asshole mouth or whatever, 0.96

00:08:09.220 the little lines. Yeah. What mouth? I'm making a mouth. No, but I didn't hear the word. I said 0.99

00:08:14.200 asshole mouth. Oh, right. A pucker. A cigarette pucker. Yeah. So that by the time you're 72. 1.00

00:08:21.600 So that it's cinched. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It's permanently puckered. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't

00:08:30.220 know though who cares i know i'm like come on i also i don't i'm not convinced there are worse

00:08:36.360 things you can do to get fresh like well that's with that i think there's some benefits to the

00:08:43.680 straw with cheek muscles possibly oh i like that i have to look into that well this is one of the

00:08:47.980 moves that you know yeah yeah yeah oh wait yeah the beauty shaman does while you're doing it

00:08:54.380 Really?

00:08:55.300 Well, want to hear what's in my canteen, my knockoff Stanley?

00:08:58.740 Oh, sure do.

00:09:00.140 A homemade electrolyte drink?

00:09:02.020 This thing?

00:09:02.360 I can't believe you're saying this.

00:09:03.380 I cannot believe you're saying this.

00:09:04.700 Because you're doing it?

00:09:05.400 Because I'm about to launch into homemade electrolyte drinks.

00:09:08.740 No, no, no.

00:09:09.220 Because Dr. Neil Barnard was like, why has everyone accepted citric acid in every food product?

00:09:15.900 Just like, oh, you think it's made of citrus or something?

00:09:18.220 You think it's whatever?

00:09:19.300 And he's like, we actually don't know the deal with citric acid or if it's good or not good.

00:09:24.380 You know, like we don't know.

00:09:26.000 Anyway, so now I'm thinking you're getting off some of the powders.

00:09:28.620 I know, because I've been doing Superior.

00:09:30.160 I just ordered a new jug of Superior.

00:09:32.300 Yeah.

00:09:32.860 And I do like Superior, and it's better than a lot of stuff out there, for sure.

00:09:36.220 Of course.

00:09:36.720 Of course.

00:09:37.080 Hey.

00:09:38.100 Yeah.

00:09:38.880 So what's in this?

00:09:40.100 And this might sound gross.

00:09:41.380 It could do worse.

00:09:42.040 Won't sound gross to you, though.

00:09:43.020 Should I guess?

00:09:43.900 Sure, guess.

00:09:46.040 Squeeze a honey.

00:09:47.800 Sea salt.

00:09:49.280 Lemon.

00:09:50.120 Okay, wait.

00:09:50.540 Let me just go through it.

00:09:51.920 You take your cup

00:09:54.660 Himalayan sea salt

00:09:56.660 Himalayan pink salt

00:09:58.320 Ding ding ding

00:09:59.540 Also we got to get into this

00:10:02.740 Do I need to get Celtic

00:10:04.020 I don't have Celtic sauce

00:10:05.980 I mean

00:10:07.000 I've been saying words 0.79

00:10:09.980 It's not Celtic

00:10:10.900 It is Celtic

00:10:12.200 I've been saying words wrong

00:10:15.720 In a way that's crazy

00:10:17.560 Wait the Boston Celtics though

00:10:19.140 Celtic salt

00:10:21.000 Celtic the Celtic the Boston Celtics

00:10:23.460 I think it's Celtic salt

00:10:24.980 Celtic salt it's probably Celtic it's either 0.99

00:10:27.100 who cares no I think there's some

00:10:28.940 I don't know I think I think I'm probably

00:10:30.940 saying it incorrectly but sorry to interrupt

00:10:32.880 do I need Celtic salt

00:10:34.560 that's the big question

00:10:36.320 Celtic versus Himalayan pink 0.84

00:10:38.580 because it was all about pink pink pink pink

00:10:41.100 someone was talking about this Dr. Gregory

00:10:42.800 Celtic 0.99

00:10:43.320 they were like yeah the pink is actually trash 0.99

00:10:46.940 because whatever 0.96

00:10:47.880 they were like

00:10:49.300 there was

00:10:50.080 who said it

00:10:51.240 maybe

00:10:51.880 I don't

00:10:52.580 I mean I'm just

00:10:53.400 rumor mill

00:10:54.360 you know

00:10:54.700 let me just see

00:10:55.320 what he's got to say

00:10:56.780 about salt

00:10:57.300 who's he

00:11:00.620 Gregor

00:11:01.440 the god

00:11:03.240 yeah Gregor

00:11:04.780 okay but what I have

00:11:08.740 in my drink is

00:11:09.580 yeah yeah go on

00:11:10.360 pink salt

00:11:11.780 basically the juice

00:11:13.460 of a full lemon

00:11:14.160 because I'm such a lemon head

00:11:15.180 okay

00:11:15.580 apple cider vinegar

00:11:17.200 I got two things right so far.

00:11:18.260 Got it.

00:11:18.780 A little splash.

00:11:20.760 A little above a splash.

00:11:21.800 A couple of splashes of apple cider vinegar

00:11:23.560 as much as you can take.

00:11:24.500 Probably a teaspoon.

00:11:25.800 And it sounds smaller than it is.

00:11:27.060 Tablespoons.

00:11:28.000 Probably more than a tablespoon.

00:11:29.000 Tablespoons are huge.

00:11:31.060 I don't know if you noticed this.

00:11:32.160 I think I have a tablespoon in here.

00:11:33.940 Okay.

00:11:34.580 I mean, I drink a lot of vinegar,

00:11:36.160 so I'm not offended.

00:11:37.120 I like it.

00:11:37.920 No, but here's the secret

00:11:39.000 to making it delectable.

00:11:41.680 Sparkling water. 1.00

00:11:43.120 Well, damn. 0.99

00:11:43.780 This is very interesting. 0.99

00:11:45.180 No one's doing that.

00:11:45.960 Sparkling water.

00:11:46.820 Nobody's doing that.

00:11:48.660 With ice.

00:11:49.720 It is...

00:11:51.240 What brand?

00:11:53.000 Of what?

00:11:53.820 Apple cider vinegar?

00:11:54.840 Just Bragg's.

00:11:55.780 No.

00:11:57.020 Sparkling water.

00:11:58.580 The peak performance.

00:12:01.040 Peak performance.

00:12:02.160 Whipped into a bubbling frenzy with your own whisk and hand.

00:12:07.120 Remind me to talk about the sprouts.

00:12:09.820 Oh, I couldn't forget.

00:12:11.040 Somebody write it down.

00:12:11.820 the most

00:12:14.300 ideally the sparkling water

00:12:16.540 the champagne

00:12:17.960 is sparkling water

00:12:18.780 is Gerald Steiner

00:12:19.560 would be used

00:12:20.400 because if it's mineral

00:12:21.420 is that the one that's like

00:12:22.100 white peach

00:12:22.920 mineral quantity

00:12:23.780 is it like

00:12:24.540 the packaging is white

00:12:25.620 peach and blue

00:12:26.280 oh

00:12:26.800 wait ding ding ding again

00:12:28.480 there's white

00:12:29.440 no it's white peach

00:12:30.480 it's white

00:12:31.420 I'm saying the color

00:12:32.300 like

00:12:32.680 alright give it to me

00:12:34.040 and I'll know if it's the one

00:12:35.040 I was picturing

00:12:35.600 Gerald Steiner

00:12:36.480 or Gerald Steiner

00:12:38.140 I don't know

00:12:38.740 I don't have time

00:12:39.760 to correctly pronounce

00:12:41.540 terms

00:12:42.420 but it's

00:12:44.760 I think that is the one I was picturing.

00:12:46.340 The Gerald Steiner

00:12:47.180 would be ideal.

00:12:48.500 This is Mountain Valley sparkling.

00:12:50.260 It's not peach.

00:12:50.740 Because I'm so scared now

00:12:52.320 officially reaching peak alarm

00:12:54.200 alarm alarm

00:12:55.100 about aluminum seltzer cans.

00:12:58.020 I've reached peak alarm.

00:13:00.200 I know.

00:13:00.380 Wait, hold on.

00:13:01.940 I'm sorry,

00:13:02.520 but it must be Googled.

00:13:03.760 So what's going on?

00:13:05.280 Aluminum?

00:13:05.880 Who knows?

00:13:06.380 You knew it couldn't be right.

00:13:07.300 Heavy metals, leeching.

00:13:08.540 It was too good to be true.

00:13:09.740 When you're crushing that can,

00:13:10.940 you go,

00:13:11.540 It's like, there's no way.

00:13:14.840 There's no way it could be that.

00:13:16.360 Our LaCroix cans aluminum.

00:13:18.040 That's right, really, where I must run.

00:13:19.360 Well, LaCroix is the worst with the PFAs, I believe.

00:13:22.320 LaCroix is the leading sparkling water.

00:13:25.680 It is 100% recyclable in aluminum cans or glass bottles.

00:13:29.880 Isn't that funny?

00:13:30.980 Wait, hold on.

00:13:31.480 Does LaCroix still have PFA?

00:13:34.200 Report by 2020.

00:13:36.200 Lots were tested.

00:13:37.560 Parts per million.

00:13:39.300 Come on.

00:13:39.760 Who knows?

00:13:40.880 Sorry.

00:13:41.540 I just want to know because I still drink it daily and I know.

00:13:45.600 We all want to know.

00:13:46.520 I mean.

00:13:47.840 We all want to know.

00:13:49.020 It's a hard pill to swallow.

00:13:50.540 And here I am going.

00:13:51.660 So what I'm transitioning to sparkling water and glass prices double,

00:13:56.140 you know,

00:13:56.380 tripled perhaps,

00:13:58.180 but that's the electrolyte drink of the summer.

00:14:01.300 Give it a try.

00:14:01.840 Let me,

00:14:02.340 let me pull it together.

00:14:03.600 Okay.

00:14:03.760 So lemon,

00:14:04.720 how much lemon do you use?

00:14:06.060 Half a lemon?

00:14:06.620 It's all flavor.

00:14:08.300 Like this is a really big container.

00:14:10.180 So I probably,

00:14:10.760 I think I have the juice of a whole lemon in there

00:14:12.760 because I love lemon.

00:14:14.360 Interesting.

00:14:15.160 Remember?

00:14:15.560 Himalayan sea salt.

00:14:16.700 I think I did a whole teaspoon of Himalayan sea salt.

00:14:20.420 Well, that's interesting.

00:14:22.180 You know, it's also interesting.

00:14:24.920 It's a sad thing if you're trying to cut down on your salt.

00:14:28.500 Potassium chloride, it's a little bit more bitter,

00:14:30.540 but people cut their salt with it

00:14:32.300 and you get minerals or something.

00:14:36.500 You really are a doctor now.

00:14:40.760 Well, wait, but I'm confused.

00:14:44.800 I've got the drink of the summer.

00:14:46.100 I've got the salad of the summer.

00:14:47.200 All right.

00:14:47.320 The computer's falling.

00:14:48.220 Hold on.

00:14:48.720 Let me just, we all remember when that happened.

00:14:51.140 What do you mean?

00:14:52.140 Okay.

00:14:52.800 The many times my computer's falling during Coog.

00:15:00.420 Okay.

00:15:00.860 I'm back.

00:15:01.400 Look at my collar.

00:15:03.420 What's wrong with it?

00:15:04.580 Stay in blue?

00:15:05.680 Yeah.

00:15:05.940 It's ink.

00:15:07.120 Oh, wow.

00:15:07.760 She's a writer.

00:15:09.040 How'd you get the ink stand up there?

00:15:10.200 I knew you'd say that.

00:15:10.220 I was hoping.

00:15:10.760 by the way it's been playing in my head all week i'm not sure i think must be thrown in a bag

00:15:16.540 with a fountain pen nearby all week or maybe it's in two weeks or i don't know

00:15:22.240 i've been replaying in my head when i told you like and you can play a game with the plant points

00:15:27.660 okay and then you were like oh yeah kids love that okay and i've been replaying it in my head

00:15:34.520 like every time I'm in the kitchen

00:15:36.480 thinking about plant points.

00:15:38.540 Oh, it's so cute.

00:15:39.840 I'm so sorry.

00:15:41.080 I'm so sorry.

00:15:42.200 I didn't mean that adults wouldn't.

00:15:43.620 I wouldn't mean that I wouldn't.

00:15:44.700 No, no, no.

00:15:44.920 I just mean what a child.

00:15:46.320 Nothing's wrong with, okay.

00:15:47.820 But do you want to show me for fun,

00:15:49.720 break down what's been stewing about it?

00:15:52.820 Yeah, go ahead.

00:15:53.720 All right.

00:15:54.020 So then the next thing that I am stewing over

00:15:58.780 is my response, okay, to that,

00:16:00.900 which was this thing where, whatever,

00:16:02.520 I argued for the kids enjoying it,

00:16:04.520 sure. And then I was like, and then I went solemn. And then I believe I was like, and

00:16:09.720 I don't even know. I mean, I haven't listened back. I just remember being like, artistically,

00:16:13.800 I agree with you. And you were like, yeah, you know, and it's like, what it is, is like

00:16:21.560 when I was positing this, you can count the plant points. I knew I was posing something

00:16:27.560 that is like, of course, you know, I know. Ridiculous. Yeah, I know. And so it was almost 0.97

00:16:32.120 this like horror that I had been misunderstood 0.99

00:16:34.280 as like the fool. 0.95

00:16:36.040 Like that our sense of humor is not the same 1.00

00:16:38.180 or something. And I'm like a fool 0.99

00:16:40.160 who's whatever. Of course not. 0.99

00:16:42.340 And then

00:16:42.820 and so I've just been sort of like

00:16:45.880 having the conversation in my head at my sink.

00:16:48.340 That's where it always is.

00:16:50.680 We can have it again.

00:16:52.940 Like the computer keeps

00:16:54.180 slipping to the side and it's like

00:16:56.000 it's like

00:16:57.360 killing me.

00:16:59.200 Yeah. And it's like the weight is coming from somewhere. I've been watching podcasts and, you know, video podcasts to not get sucked into narrative television at night, which where I always decide to watch more because I must know. It's been interesting to watch other people take a pass at the genre. Okay. Yeah. You know, it's like.

00:17:25.220 Well, when they get us in a room together, it's over.

00:17:27.980 Can you imagine?

00:17:28.840 We should try.

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00:21:05.720 got some beauty by josen or i'm saying it the like gringo is it josen k beauty i believe it's a

00:21:19.900 korean brand i didn't receive it i paid for it out of pocket it's a it's an spf it's a facial

00:21:28.080 sunscreen now who inspired you to get it let me guess charlotte parlor no who's that who the hell

00:21:34.200 is that I might I might have her name wrong right now but one of the founders of do oh no no I got 0.68

00:21:39.220 she's like this is a friend this is a oh whoa like a painted lady desperate to look better on 0.95

00:21:44.780 the video like a slotty they can't see let me see go on a little red lipstick never hurt um

00:21:52.940 no I uh a fancy friend was like oh I actually had this moment it really kind of scared me we're at

00:21:59.500 we were at a beauty we were in a makeup store and there was a I think it was I was like I've

00:22:05.000 always been curious to try this the Kosas like something do it's like SPF that's slightly tinted 0.99

00:22:12.300 and I was like oh yeah that looks nice you know put on my hand so interested if they want to send

00:22:16.660 it um yeah and uh my friend was like I wouldn't use that as your primary sunscreen though

00:22:22.160 and I got this pit in my stomach

00:22:24.400 of like

00:22:24.880 I've been under SPF-ing

00:22:29.380 have I?

00:22:30.000 Because sometimes

00:22:30.920 I want to be clear

00:22:31.860 if I'm going out

00:22:32.920 let's say I'm going on a walk

00:22:34.120 I'm going to like

00:22:34.620 kind of be in the sun

00:22:35.540 with a hat on of course

00:22:36.580 but you know

00:22:37.080 then maybe I'm using something else

00:22:38.980 but I am going out there

00:22:40.560 going oh my

00:22:41.200 ILIA SPF 50 serum

00:22:43.020 my tinted moisturizer

00:22:44.220 is covering me

00:22:45.120 kind of thing

00:22:45.560 never reapplied once in my life

00:22:46.900 of course 0.99

00:22:47.400 who the fuck is doing that? 0.99

00:22:49.580 people are out there 0.99

00:22:50.280 oh it's been three hours

00:22:51.740 I mean, I sort of

00:22:52.640 Pulling over to the side of the road

00:22:53.900 I'm moving in that direction

00:22:54.560 Yeah

00:22:55.280 What do you do?

00:22:56.180 Well, I'm moving in that direction

00:22:58.080 I gotta get my windows SPF tinted

00:22:59.160 Oh, God

00:23:00.020 Oh, yeah

00:23:00.400 Is that a thing I forgot?

00:23:01.720 Is that real?

00:23:02.880 Yes

00:23:03.280 You can do that

00:23:04.320 I'm noticing fine lines on the left side of my face

00:23:08.100 Not my right

00:23:08.920 Right

00:23:10.200 Well, anyway, so she said that 0.51

00:23:14.000 And I went, oh, God

00:23:14.900 And then she was like, I really like this stuff

00:23:17.260 And I trust her deeply

00:23:20.140 And so I purchased it

00:23:21.520 It just came today.

00:23:22.360 I haven't taken it for a spin yet.

00:23:24.060 I ordered their serum a long time ago and it came in a very small bottle.

00:23:30.060 So that was sort of a shock.

00:23:31.660 Okay, I guess this is one of the, you know, but Charlotte over at Dew, you know, she really gets into the different SPF stuff.

00:23:40.000 And because, you know, you're supposed to use, I think, a full teaspoon, okay, a full teaspoon, I believe, every time.

00:23:46.760 And she's like, even though people, I don't want that one because it's chemical or whatever, you know, she's, her point is, I need you bathing in your SPF, okay?

00:23:58.860 I need you using a lot.

00:24:00.460 So if you're not going to use the mineral one because of the cast it leaves or it looks to whatever, then I need you using a ton of the chemical one, right?

00:24:11.240 Well, here we go.

00:24:12.880 So she's going, find one that you're willing to bathe in, you know?

00:24:16.260 and and then you know what else she does it's next level so and i think she shows how to what 0.98

00:24:22.920 actually no i don't put it i go apply over makeup i was gonna say spray bottle but it would come out

00:24:30.640 that's maybe well that's i mean the search for the spray i've been on supergoop has a huge problem

00:24:36.180 because supergoop by the way i've been using supergoop love them i love the play like body

00:24:41.060 sunscreen i think it's a great it's like lotion like it doesn't feel sticky or anything

00:24:45.020 I'm here to tell corporate

00:24:47.120 The invisible shield

00:24:48.740 The super group

00:24:49.560 Invisible shield spray

00:24:50.840 Which I have purchased

00:24:51.700 A few times

00:24:52.340 The bottle doesn't work

00:24:54.600 Okay

00:24:55.140 The bottle doesn't work

00:24:56.520 I know

00:24:57.160 Go back to the factory

00:24:58.100 The bottle doesn't work

00:24:59.400 The bottle doesn't spray

00:25:00.480 After

00:25:00.820 You cannot get product out

00:25:02.120 Unless you want to

00:25:02.920 Knock a hammer

00:25:03.680 For two days it works

00:25:05.280 Literally

00:25:05.720 Me too

00:25:06.720 Okay this is unbelievable

00:25:07.720 By the way

00:25:08.060 I thought I had a freak one

00:25:09.160 From the factory

00:25:09.680 I bought another one 1.00

00:25:10.460 Same fucking thing 1.00

00:25:11.420 Okay 1.00

00:25:11.680 We got sent a second one

00:25:13.300 And then another thing

00:25:14.100 And then I'm going

00:25:14.580 purchasing it out of pocket

00:25:15.620 going

00:25:15.960 yeah

00:25:17.160 the back and forth

00:25:18.160 of the open closed

00:25:19.160 open closed

00:25:19.800 I mean

00:25:20.080 I press on it with my finger

00:25:21.480 and it's like

00:25:22.620 suddenly it's like

00:25:23.160 it's on my finger

00:25:23.700 so

00:25:24.140 one week

00:25:25.860 and then

00:25:26.400 I think at some point

00:25:27.480 I had to toss it

00:25:28.180 being like

00:25:28.600 you're not getting in this

00:25:29.660 like my plans

00:25:30.860 that I was gonna

00:25:31.300 knock into it

00:25:32.420 with a 0.98

00:25:32.860 with a

00:25:33.280 chocolate I tossed it

00:25:34.300 I tossed it

00:25:35.140 like a beer can

00:25:35.940 and drink it from the side

00:25:36.800 I threw it away

00:25:38.300 I can't believe

00:25:38.720 you're saying this 0.97

00:25:39.320 because it was useless

00:25:39.600 no this is huge

00:25:40.700 and we say this

00:25:42.080 and again

00:25:42.660 we love Supergoop

00:25:43.460 and they sent us things

00:25:44.200 and they're friends at the pod.

00:25:45.620 But we just, you know,

00:25:46.480 this is the kind of constructive feedback.

00:25:48.920 Yeah.

00:25:49.300 Something's up with that particular.

00:25:53.800 It's like, it's too hard to press down.

00:25:56.000 And then as a result of that, something.

00:25:59.300 Huh? 1.00

00:25:59.940 Remember I went through this with a ghee company. 0.99

00:26:02.960 There was like a ghee company I was into.

00:26:05.100 With packaging issues?

00:26:06.020 Yeah, there was a packaging issue.

00:26:08.200 And they sent me, I go,

00:26:09.500 this one's still not working, guys.

00:26:11.060 Anyway, keep going.

00:26:11.940 But we got a flaw in the design.

00:26:13.600 Critical design flaw

00:26:15.280 That's interesting

00:26:16.220 I'm just thinking about

00:26:16.840 Other packaging issues

00:26:17.900 Packaging issues are

00:26:20.880 Dangerous

00:26:22.780 Oh my god

00:26:23.480 You know what I bought

00:26:24.120 It's changed my life

00:26:25.040 It's so fun

00:26:26.980 A vitamin

00:26:27.660 Do you take vitamins?

00:26:29.720 I'm kind of like

00:26:30.640 Jury's out

00:26:31.380 Yeah

00:26:31.720 I'm kind of like

00:26:32.300 No

00:26:32.580 But I'm kind of

00:26:33.500 Having fun with it

00:26:34.200 By the way

00:26:34.680 Fatty

00:26:35.420 I've been taking fatty

00:26:36.240 Quite religiously

00:26:37.040 They sent us some

00:26:37.900 I just found it

00:26:39.180 Last night

00:26:39.740 I think I lost my supply

00:26:40.760 Yeah

00:26:41.160 Because they very generously

00:26:42.420 Sent us a year supply

00:26:43.260 A half bottle.

00:26:43.680 I don't know where the...

00:26:44.820 Oh, God.

00:26:45.480 And I looked at it and I noticed it was like vegan capsules.

00:26:48.120 I was like, hmm.

00:26:48.820 Because I couldn't remember.

00:26:49.860 And I just like saw it.

00:26:51.380 And I couldn't remember.

00:26:52.520 I know people swear by it, but I couldn't remember why.

00:26:54.440 And then I had trouble motivating to swallow it.

00:26:57.220 Really?

00:26:57.580 The pills, the supplements, which ones are crossing over each other in terms of the needs.

00:27:03.640 This is where I struggle.

00:27:05.460 Oh, I know.

00:27:06.980 And that's where I come running back to food.

00:27:08.220 You just piss it out.

00:27:09.480 Well, food's better.

00:27:10.400 I come running back to plant diversity, plant points per week.

00:27:13.260 oh my god food's definitely number one but but for some holes taking some coq10

00:27:19.620 don't know that's how you say it i don't know probably not it's like the utter i just see the

00:27:26.480 the three things in my head it's very confusing coke or i mean is there no you coke 10 i don't know

00:27:34.080 yeah yeah vitamin d but the point is i got one of those vitamin cases it's a circle each day

00:27:41.960 a little heart and all the hearts make the days of the week.

00:27:44.080 Oh, I think I've seen that one.

00:27:45.200 Like a child. I love it.

00:27:47.280 Now, does each one flip open, each heart?

00:27:50.660 Yeah.

00:27:51.020 Or does it twist?

00:27:52.200 Yeah. Each day flips open.

00:27:54.160 Plastic?

00:27:55.940 Oh, yeah. Highly toxic.

00:27:58.720 I actually had that thought, of course, 1.00

00:28:00.320 and then I was like, well, fuck it. 1.00

00:28:01.100 I know, and you were like, ah. 1.00

00:28:02.680 I'm like, everything's plastic.

00:28:03.760 Plastic therein. Men are literally 1.00

00:28:05.580 mass sterility, you're aware. 0.91

00:28:08.080 Every ball sack, if you rip it open,

00:28:10.380 it's coated in plastic.

00:28:11.960 I was thinking how beautiful it is

00:28:13.400 I just was like

00:28:14.000 You're like isn't that beautiful

00:28:15.240 The way Mother Nature said

00:28:16.360 No

00:28:17.020 Or whatever

00:28:18.420 Something like that

00:28:19.180 No but

00:28:20.180 But it is

00:28:20.780 It is wild

00:28:21.580 Mass sterility

00:28:22.620 And so

00:28:24.300 The plastics

00:28:25.520 But it's like

00:28:26.220 Well I'm ingesting

00:28:26.960 You know

00:28:27.320 It's over

00:28:27.980 But we can limit it

00:28:29.660 Where did I

00:28:30.680 Where

00:28:31.540 Yeah I've been a little more conscious

00:28:34.820 I had a massive meal prep

00:28:38.360 I know you texted me

00:28:39.760 You were like

00:28:40.080 I haven't

00:28:40.520 I've been meal prepping

00:28:41.380 for four hours

00:28:42.200 standing at the sink.

00:28:43.020 I hadn't moved.

00:28:43.840 How?

00:28:44.360 So what are you doing?

00:28:45.060 I need to know.

00:28:45.680 What are you doing?

00:28:46.140 Well, I took ADD meds.

00:28:46.860 Okay, I'm trying to concert death.

00:28:47.300 By the way, I'm back on porridge.

00:28:48.400 I keep going.

00:28:49.200 Okay, well, as am I.

00:28:49.960 Huge week for porridge.

00:28:51.540 Huge week for glyphosate for you.

00:28:52.800 Okay, me too.

00:28:53.140 That's what I meal prepped.

00:28:54.220 Okay, wait.

00:28:54.820 Walk me through it.

00:28:55.280 What are you doing?

00:28:55.960 So I took ADD meds.

00:28:57.980 Now, the thing is,

00:28:58.920 I was at the sink

00:29:00.100 and then I thought one thing

00:29:01.040 and then I thought another thing

00:29:01.800 and then I didn't move for four hours.

00:29:03.200 Are these like loose pills from the 80s?

00:29:04.520 That you're like finding

00:29:05.440 Oh, this is a prescription that had to be filled in New York and mailed to me.

00:29:11.420 And you can arrest me for that.

00:29:12.980 Okay.

00:29:13.180 Because California is really-

00:29:14.460 You mean this is a fresh RX?

00:29:16.140 Yeah. 1.00

00:29:17.420 Holy shit. 0.99

00:29:18.380 I have, like, I've actually, to myself, been saying my life has become unmanageable. 0.99

00:29:23.640 I know.

00:29:24.280 I know.

00:29:24.800 Literally, I was crying in bed.

00:29:26.160 Like, I was like-

00:29:26.520 Well, this is ADD.

00:29:27.180 I made one call out to a potential ADD doctor.

00:29:31.040 They called me back.

00:29:32.200 I never responded.

00:29:33.760 Well, that's the thing they need to follow up.

00:29:35.440 They need to know who they're dealing with.

00:29:37.780 We really need to talk about the book

00:29:39.140 I'm reading about this, by the way.

00:29:40.820 The ADD book.

00:29:41.320 Which book?

00:29:41.960 We're going to talk about it.

00:29:42.820 Did I loan it to you?

00:29:43.560 Do not.

00:29:44.300 No.

00:29:44.640 The book I've been pushing on you for days

00:29:46.100 that I've been sending you screen grabs.

00:29:48.080 You've been reading it.

00:29:48.720 Wait, that's a physical book?

00:29:50.360 Oh, it's on your phone.

00:29:51.420 Screen grabs.

00:29:52.260 Yeah.

00:29:52.380 Okay.

00:29:53.520 I mean, but it is offered that way, I believe.

00:29:56.120 Yeah.

00:29:56.280 So remind me if I forget in this conversation

00:29:58.560 to return to organizing solutions for ADD.

00:30:03.000 Okay.

00:30:03.260 Because life changed.

00:30:04.580 so I'm like

00:30:06.540 I'm like my life's become unmanageable

00:30:09.180 and then I think

00:30:11.020 alright I'm going to try the different meds

00:30:12.960 and I was reading Hallowell and I'm going alright we're going back in

00:30:15.380 you know

00:30:15.760 and eating ADHD 2.0

00:30:18.980 which we've discussed

00:30:19.700 I'm googling

00:30:21.180 I get to this one guy Barkley

00:30:24.660 who's like some kind of I don't know

00:30:26.520 he's a big shot

00:30:28.080 in the ADHD world right now

00:30:29.780 you and your guys are so funny

00:30:32.800 doctor uh yeah

00:30:34.220 Dr. Abe Wallace

00:30:36.040 the made up name

00:30:37.340 but

00:30:37.780 but

00:30:38.820 you

00:30:39.620 with all

00:30:41.600 your fellas

00:30:42.580 you need like

00:30:43.660 trading cards

00:30:44.480 you need baseball cards

00:30:45.700 of all your doctors

00:30:46.480 you know the bags

00:30:47.800 the

00:30:48.280 the merch

00:30:49.120 that's like

00:30:49.680 the this and this and this and this

00:30:50.820 I've been dreaming of this

00:30:51.740 like Esselstyn and Gregor

00:30:53.520 like it would be like

00:30:54.700 you know

00:30:55.440 those fan things

00:30:57.240 that are like

00:30:57.760 you know

00:30:58.100 I just want to think of a

00:30:59.840 of a good example

00:31:00.780 like it would be

00:31:02.100 the struggle to do this right now

00:31:11.260 it's like

00:31:11.540 you know

00:31:12.420 here's a bad example

00:31:13.400 okay like

00:31:13.860 Thoreau and Walden

00:31:15.240 and Nietzsche and

00:31:16.240 da da da

00:31:16.680 on a t-shirt

00:31:17.820 okay

00:31:18.360 okay sorry

00:31:19.360 it's all I can come up with

00:31:20.380 I did not see your thing

00:31:21.720 okay so I'm like

00:31:22.060 Esselstyn and Gregor

00:31:23.280 and Barnard

00:31:24.180 you know

00:31:25.380 Esselstyn and Gregor

00:31:27.480 and Barnard

00:31:28.040 and whatever

00:31:28.580 okay that on a tote

00:31:29.720 yeah

00:31:30.680 yeah

00:31:31.040 okay

00:31:31.760 For the people that are into the Whole Foods plant-based revolution.

00:31:35.640 It would be huge, yeah.

00:31:37.100 Okay, or like the Esselstyn family members all in a tub. 1.00

00:31:40.580 By the way, I want my fucking, I want my goddamn shipment. 0.99

00:31:43.040 Rip and Gus and, you know what I mean? 0.99

00:31:44.400 I want my shipment.

00:31:45.480 I followed up.

00:31:47.180 It's being sent to you.

00:31:48.340 Okay, great.

00:31:49.620 Okay, keep going.

00:31:50.240 Anyway, anyway.

00:31:50.860 So you were saying about the book?

00:31:53.600 What were you saying?

00:31:54.060 Okay, the organizing.

00:31:54.940 But that was a, oh, remind me to tell you about the organizing thing.

00:31:57.780 Because there was something before it that you were telling me about.

00:31:59.420 Wait, also remind me

00:32:02.060 The SPF over the makeup

00:32:03.640 Jot this down

00:32:05.000 We need to get medicated

00:32:06.200 Well, I am right now

00:32:07.880 But I took a little less than I did yesterday

00:32:10.240 You have kind of a placid, calm look on your face

00:32:12.980 Well, the first day

00:32:14.500 You're like, this is when someone looks at their child

00:32:18.540 And goes like, what's medication the answer?

00:32:20.120 Oh, but Barkley, well, now we're into the ADD, right?

00:32:22.680 But I want to talk about my meal prep

00:32:24.160 Just write it down for me

00:32:25.180 Go to meal prep

00:32:27.580 go to meal prep

00:32:28.140 remember the things we just

00:32:30.440 the things I just said

00:32:31.640 we'll get we'll get covered

00:32:32.660 all right

00:32:33.100 yeah

00:32:33.320 I mean there are certain

00:32:35.960 listeners who

00:32:36.920 if if we do this

00:32:38.220 we write down

00:32:39.400 the threads as we go

00:32:41.260 and then return to them

00:32:42.260 before the episode

00:32:42.920 reminded by producer

00:32:43.960 there are certain minds

00:32:46.520 who literally go wait

00:32:47.860 but you never

00:32:48.580 said the thing

00:32:49.840 certain minds of course

00:32:50.520 people were constantly

00:32:51.800 jumping off

00:32:52.320 certain minds

00:32:53.180 were like maddening

00:32:54.260 can you imagine

00:32:55.160 there's a reason

00:32:56.600 you can't listen

00:32:57.160 I can't listen to this.

00:32:59.200 Yeah.

00:33:00.300 Actually, you know what?

00:33:01.000 I had this thought today.

00:33:02.400 I was chopping before POOG.

00:33:04.000 I was like, maybe this is so obvious.

00:33:06.160 Like why I say it? 1.00

00:33:07.640 But the POOG thing, it's like, 0.90

00:33:10.040 like we've gained and lost and gained listeners, right?

00:33:13.460 Like people might listen to us and they go,

00:33:14.800 you know what? 0.98

00:33:15.220 I fucking can't handle these two when they leave, right? 0.99

00:33:18.980 Really? 0.99

00:33:19.280 But I was like, that's for sure.

00:33:21.100 But I'm like-

00:33:21.300 We've actually like only had growth really.

00:33:23.900 Oh, really?

00:33:24.580 Except for when we fell off and weren't really putting up episodes regularly.

00:33:28.180 There was like a...

00:33:28.680 Yeah, sure. That makes sense.

00:33:30.320 But I'm just saying, it really is.

00:33:33.620 And that's the, it's like a friend.

00:33:35.660 It's like, that's the intimacy.

00:33:37.460 Because people can go, you know what? 1.00

00:33:39.340 I can't fucking listen to this shit anymore. 1.00

00:33:41.460 They go away. 1.00

00:33:42.280 They come back.

00:33:43.060 They go, oh, she's changed.

00:33:44.680 She's not talking about that so much anymore.

00:33:46.860 She's actually on it.

00:33:47.680 Do you know what I mean?

00:33:48.280 Like, it's interesting.

00:33:49.360 Because you and I, and this is the Pooh promise, which is...

00:33:52.580 We do not face the audience.

00:33:56.780 We are not audience facing.

00:34:00.000 But we, but I mean, I felt this the other day. 0.99

00:34:03.460 I had a hag come up to me and I went, they're out there. 1.00

00:34:08.640 They're really here.

00:34:09.380 We love you.

00:34:09.820 Seems like they're on the east side.

00:34:11.780 Yeah, they're in a sexy, they're lingering in the sexy.

00:34:15.780 I just can't believe I haven't been stopped in Air One a single time.

00:34:18.860 That's crazy.

00:34:20.200 Although, by the way, I've cut my Erewhon usage down to like $0 a month.

00:34:24.500 Okay, that's not true.

00:34:25.380 But almost down to zero.

00:34:27.000 Jacqueline?

00:34:27.360 Yeah, I like it.

00:34:28.420 This is a non-exaggeration.

00:34:30.560 This is a huge announcement.

00:34:31.760 I can't wait to tell you.

00:34:33.740 I want to actually look at the date.

00:34:36.940 I have been to Erewhon, and this is not an exaggeration, twice in six weeks.

00:34:42.520 Yeah.

00:34:43.020 Yeah.

00:34:43.820 That's compared to twice a day.

00:34:46.240 Okay?

00:34:46.900 Okay?

00:34:47.380 Okay. 0.98

00:34:47.640 And I'm not fucking kidding you 0.97

00:34:50.060 I know 0.98

00:34:50.460 I would sometimes be there twice a day

00:34:52.920 Me too

00:34:53.360 One time I went three times

00:34:54.540 Yeah

00:34:55.360 One time I went

00:34:56.120 And sometimes

00:34:56.800 Hit one on the west side

00:34:58.160 Hit one on the east side

00:34:58.980 Oh yeah

00:34:59.520 Don't you feel

00:35:01.220 When you do that

00:35:02.140 Whoa whoa whoa whoa

00:35:03.460 Whoa whoa whoa

00:35:04.940 What

00:35:05.280 Do I have breaking news

00:35:06.420 Okay

00:35:06.860 Oh my god

00:35:07.980 What

00:35:08.180 Okay by the way

00:35:08.840 That really got it

00:35:10.840 Too amped

00:35:11.600 I've never seen you more amped

00:35:13.100 This is gonna plateau

00:35:14.020 No I'm ready

00:35:15.440 The foods

00:35:17.480 Not good.

00:35:20.360 Okay, wait, Kate.

00:35:21.960 Okay, this is Kate, Kate, Kate, Kate, Kate, Kate, Kate, Kate, Kate.

00:35:25.820 Here.

00:35:27.940 I'm going to take my lipstick off to talk about this, okay?

00:35:30.840 Here we go.

00:35:32.500 Okay, listen to this.

00:35:34.420 Listen to this.

00:35:35.000 I'm coming alive, okay?

00:35:36.200 Because I haven't even dared to think that.

00:35:38.100 And you're opening my mind, okay?

00:35:39.640 Because I have a lot to say.

00:35:41.160 Okay, by the way, some of the things, sure.

00:35:43.840 In a pinch, I need my kelp salad.

00:35:45.500 I want miracle noodles now 0.99

00:35:46.600 I want a fucking coconut crispy chicken tender 0.99

00:35:49.780 Listen to me 1.00

00:35:50.380 Went the other day

00:35:52.180 Jaw was on the floor 0.61

00:35:53.840 My sweetheart got a vegan

00:35:56.920 Sushi, crispy sushi

00:35:59.400 Sandwichy thing

00:36:01.560 Where they smash the

00:36:02.460 They're very

00:36:04.400 I was like how is it

00:36:06.240 They're like it's okay

00:36:07.080 I took a bite I go 1.00

00:36:08.500 That's shit 0.99

00:36:10.320 The crispy rice was not 0.99

00:36:11.940 It was like is this rice

00:36:13.160 Do you know what I mean

00:36:13.820 it was like it was so poorly made and then i had this moment and it broke my heart because i went

00:36:18.460 to the pizza bar okay so i went to the pizza bar i got this like broccoli pizza thing yeah what the 0.79

00:36:24.540 pizza by the way and like the regular slices fucking are good okay so take it back but listen 0.72

00:36:29.480 they look they have like some broccoli crust whatever i had it once before and i was like 0.88

00:36:34.140 this is pretty good i go there really really sweet guy behind the thing and do you want to 0.79

00:36:42.860 heat it up yes please i take it out i sit down it's fucking not hot i go back down i go oh i took 0.78

00:36:48.980 i had cut a bite i go oh hi is it possible i could get this reheated because i wanted to 0.91

00:36:53.240 him to know that it almost makes it sound like you was it pretty quick after after 10 minutes

00:37:00.280 i'm wondering if he thinks like can i get reheated because like i didn't get it in my mouth fast

00:37:03.800 enough well that's what i was kind of suggesting he never did it up i think he did he did it up

00:37:07.540 but just didn't do it was so that's why i said reheated because i want to go i know i've been

00:37:10.900 gone it was 10 minutes maybe 15 minutes okay so i think 10 okay as and he goes god bless him he's

00:37:18.840 like oh did you take a bite of it because if it's like i can't put it in the oven yeah he goes i'm

00:37:22.560 gonna get you a new one he's like there's the one that one was ugly or something he said like he's

00:37:25.980 like i didn't that one i'm gonna get you a fresh one or something oh thank you i take it back 0.64

00:37:30.100 outside it's fucking hot hot or not like cold spots because everything i should nothing's frozen 0.56

00:37:38.980 there but nothing's frozen but like i'm not even saying like oh but it's warm i'm talking about i 0.92

00:37:43.840 take a bite and like this is like the very room temperature basically yes but like really and then

00:37:51.840 the sweetheart he was like came out and he stopped by the table because he had gone he goes he goes

00:37:55.520 like how's that slice working out for you i was like it's great because of course because he i

00:37:59.120 mean this guy i was like i mean you know my well one of the core experiences for me one of the

00:38:04.320 absolute cores okay in my life i've told it i'll tell it again i'm in college all right i'm at a

00:38:14.960 restaurant i wish we were friends in college can you imagine so cute okay keep going it would have

00:38:21.200 been i've noticed that i say keep going a lot have you noticed that about me not the podcast just in

00:38:26.660 life no that's not familiar to you keep going i think i say that i'm like is that a little familiar

00:38:31.540 because that's me trying to be like i'm sorry i interrupted like keep going keep going yeah

00:38:35.760 i mean i don't think anything i keep going i was about to say but that makes sense i don't mind

00:38:40.520 keep it coming okay keeps happening it's like when we discovered that my mother okay i was like

00:38:47.640 you know you do this thing like whenever my mother laughs okay like in the midst of talking

00:38:52.660 or something she goes okay okay at the beginning yeah they'll be like i don't even know what they

00:38:59.480 what they were talking about okay yeah and she's like i don't know i do it but then can't stop every

00:39:06.720 time that's quite cute all right what's going on over there looking at your manicure your phone

00:39:12.320 so i did briefly look at my phone only the top because i'm expecting a prescription delivery

00:39:18.040 oh well it's medical it's medical i don't care but i just want to know because

00:39:23.080 i'm always happy back down the phone's back down what now what do you see her phone got

00:39:28.100 Jacqueline, like a cartoon character.

00:39:31.320 The light illuminated your face

00:39:33.020 and you made a look like,

00:39:35.560 what was on there?

00:39:36.800 Just the terror.

00:39:37.640 There were texts and I'm going,

00:39:39.140 I'm going,

00:39:39.780 and I've seen your text emailed

00:39:41.420 about pushing several times.

00:39:43.520 And each time it shocks me

00:39:44.920 because I haven't opened it.

00:39:47.000 Okay, go back to the pizza.

00:39:48.200 Go back to the pizza.

00:39:49.300 So I'm in college.

00:39:50.800 Me and my friend go out to dinner at one place

00:39:52.140 and we decide let's extend the evening

00:39:53.600 and go for a coffee and dessert

00:39:55.040 at another restaurant.

00:39:57.140 Pure romance.

00:39:57.840 I know, are you dying for it again?

00:39:59.520 Okay, imagining us, okay?

00:40:02.360 Us in class together, can you imagine?

00:40:06.480 Would you think we'd always sit next to each other?

00:40:08.320 Obviously.

00:40:09.100 Yeah.

00:40:09.700 Yeah.

00:40:10.380 And wildly our eyes lighting up as we're like doing psycholinguistics.

00:40:18.860 Imagine like letting other people talk.

00:40:21.940 Well, that's the thing.

00:40:22.920 Would we be dominating and cackling?

00:40:27.840 or recede into the shadows and do it all after.

00:40:31.900 Do a big recap after.

00:40:34.080 Could be.

00:40:35.420 So we go to for dessert, okay?

00:40:39.160 And we get there and we're like,

00:40:40.340 you know, hey, we're doing dessert, okay?

00:40:41.760 And the waiter comes over and, you know,

00:40:43.680 we're in this kind of vibe.

00:40:44.960 And it's like, you know, we're here for dessert.

00:40:46.700 So we're like, it's,

00:40:47.940 you're making a thing of the dessert experience

00:40:50.000 a little bit almost to legitimize.

00:40:52.000 Maybe we had a cocktail too.

00:40:53.000 I don't know.

00:40:53.400 Okay, but what should we get?

00:40:55.640 It's the only food we're getting there.

00:40:56.740 so what should we get the whole thing and he's like you literally like you i don't know if it

00:41:01.720 was called a chocolate lava cake which like sounds very applebee's okay but like he described it and

00:41:08.580 he was clearly describing that okay that sort of thing so chocolate cake with a molten lava center

00:41:14.220 of chocolate right and he's like you know describing this thing okay yeah and we're getting

00:41:20.580 all we're getting into it he's like it's a must and then with the vanilla ice cream and the whole

00:41:24.580 thing and whole thing yeah and i mean it was like we were it was a real build-up and like yep that's

00:41:30.780 the one not the tart that we're doing yeah we're not molten lava chocolate yeah oh no it gets

00:41:36.700 dropped off i think by someone else okay an interloper in my relationship with the waiter

00:41:44.020 okay dropped off and we're like here we go okay we stab the fork in and the fork kind of doesn't

00:41:51.740 move okay the pork's almost stuck okay yeah this can't be right you push again okay it's lifting

00:41:58.260 the it's lifting the cake off the plate you know what i mean mistake a fudgy thick thing is

00:42:03.580 happening in there okay we sort of cut into it this is solid this is solid fudgy chocolate okay

00:42:09.540 it was not not heated through okay you're not hearkening to lava so we're like okay oh jesus

00:42:16.280 oh god you know praying he doesn't come back okay and then from across the room of course he's

00:42:22.100 coming back of course it's like checking okay for 50 feet away it was a big restaurant okay it's

00:42:27.740 like across from like my eyes like in looking to not make eye contact with him my eyes are

00:42:32.040 darting around the room and then thus we catch each other's eyes and he does a big like what

00:42:38.960 I tell you come on is it good and I was like yeah I was like of course of course yeah you know

00:42:47.460 absolutely and then we rabidly ate the cold fudge to get rid of the evidence oh to protect him

00:42:54.280 you gotta protect of course that's beautiful the things we do for the waiters actually huge news

00:43:05.340 I went to Crossroads, a vegan restaurant in Los Angeles.

00:43:10.480 First time?

00:43:11.080 Yeah, it was pretty wild.

00:43:12.500 It's an interesting experience.

00:43:14.300 Tempeh piccata. 0.99

00:43:16.160 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:43:16.820 And a pizza. 1.00

00:43:18.500 I heard the pastas are good.

00:43:19.820 Pasta.

00:43:20.560 It was like a bolognese.

00:43:22.600 It's interesting over there.

00:43:24.100 See you there.

00:43:24.760 Cosmopolitan.

00:43:25.880 I'm having a real craving for a cold Cosmopolitan.

00:43:29.840 Those were, I guess, were really in last summer.

00:43:32.300 Dad's vibe.

00:43:33.100 They're back.

00:43:34.120 It's a throwback drink now.

00:43:35.340 I think last summer though, they were kind of like sexy, like once again, you know, they

00:43:39.800 weren't just the Sex and the City tour is my point.

00:43:42.020 It's come back around.

00:43:43.600 Yeah.

00:43:44.940 I had a drink called Dad Vibes.

00:43:47.040 It was Mezcal.

00:43:48.520 There was, I think pineapple in it.

00:43:50.240 It was quite good.

00:43:51.100 And then I followed up with a margarita.

00:43:53.140 Beautiful.

00:43:54.500 I was thrilled to see, because I didn't know.

00:43:57.560 Okay.

00:43:57.760 And it's been there a long time.

00:43:59.380 Like a stalwart, is that the word I mean?

00:44:01.480 But, you know, a something or other of the L.A. restaurant scene as a longtime vegan restaurant, right?

00:44:10.360 So, it feels like you're going into a place that has meant something to a lot of people for a long time.

00:44:16.240 And you're like, what's it going to be?

00:44:17.700 Yeah.

00:44:18.040 Is it going to be like Suen in there?

00:44:19.880 Classic.

00:44:20.480 Okay.

00:44:20.680 Is it going to be sort of feel like, you know, the vibe?

00:44:25.120 and so I was

00:44:28.380 thrilled to discover

00:44:30.840 good atmosphere

00:44:32.880 yeah oh totally

00:44:34.280 I would love to go with you I also would love to go to

00:44:36.720 Planta

00:44:37.160 or Planta

00:44:39.140 I'm very eager

00:44:42.920 to go there

00:44:43.400 let's go there let's go there let's get that on the books

00:44:47.080 by the way someone has a birthday

00:44:48.960 coming up me of course

00:44:50.580 and I'm going to need five to six

00:44:52.820 celebrations and I would like

00:44:54.980 one of them to eat dinner with you.

00:44:56.980 Great.

00:44:58.400 Yeah, maybe we will try a plant or whatever.

00:45:01.900 But it was interesting,

00:45:04.860 although the way I've been eating

00:45:06.920 with being a nutritarian,

00:45:09.880 I found it challenging

00:45:11.600 to order things that are like,

00:45:15.380 we're no clue what it's made of.

00:45:18.720 You know what I mean?

00:45:19.260 Of course.

00:45:20.220 It's like, you know,

00:45:21.860 it's like the fake cheeses

00:45:24.200 that are not made of nuts

00:45:25.380 are made of like coconut oil.

00:45:27.860 Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.

00:45:28.600 You kind of have to throw your hands up.

00:45:30.420 I threw my hands up

00:45:31.380 and accepted it as a sort of

00:45:33.400 that kind of experience.

00:45:34.260 But I was just thinking,

00:45:35.460 you know,

00:45:35.880 there's a hole in the marketplace,

00:45:37.380 at least so far,

00:45:38.920 in my opinion.

00:45:39.880 Huge hole.

00:45:40.620 If someone could do,

00:45:42.540 could simultaneously prioritize,

00:45:45.320 you know,

00:45:46.160 clean,

00:45:47.440 you know,

00:45:47.840 nutrient sort of,

00:45:49.220 you know,

00:45:49.560 ingredients

00:45:50.120 combined with

00:45:51.800 attempting things

00:45:53.380 that fall into the realm of comfort food.

00:45:56.240 Like, you know, but it's not about, you know,

00:45:59.020 trying to fake a cheeseburger.

00:46:00.920 You know, it's like, if you could do both,

00:46:02.860 that would be, if I could know that I was getting like,

00:46:05.780 okay, like you're getting the bolognese and guess what?

00:46:08.480 You're not going to believe that this bolognese

00:46:10.080 is made of sunflower seed, you know, sweet potato,

00:46:14.600 like a jackfruit, you know.

00:46:17.060 Wouldn't that be amazing?

00:46:20.340 You said burger and then I got,

00:46:22.140 I got distracted

00:46:24.540 Because I had

00:46:26.340 I think what is right now

00:46:28.560 My number one cheeseburger in Los Angeles

00:46:30.120 Which is a burger she wrote

00:46:31.560 And I had a burger that made me moan

00:46:33.580 These names

00:46:35.300 Burgers never die or whatever

00:46:37.440 Guys I know

00:46:38.400 This burger unbelievable

00:46:40.040 When I left I lingered by the kitchen

00:46:42.080 I didn't have the courage

00:46:44.660 I wanted to say something 1.00

00:46:45.660 You guys fucking 1.00

00:46:47.860 You're fucking doing it 1.00

00:46:49.440 And I got too shy and I left 1.00

00:46:51.480 I left

00:46:52.020 I was waiting for an opening

00:46:53.200 I don't know what I was waiting for

00:46:54.380 I was waiting for someone to glance

00:46:55.780 see you

00:46:56.520 I just wanted to say

00:46:57.860 and hold long enough

00:46:58.360 what you're doing

00:46:59.000 yeah

00:46:59.300 yeah

00:47:00.220 but it was a very interesting group

00:47:03.200 in Crossroads

00:47:04.280 when I was at Crossroads

00:47:05.220 very interesting crowd

00:47:06.620 I went there on a cute little date

00:47:08.460 and we were sitting there at the bar

00:47:10.240 and saw something very interesting

00:47:11.500 which is a couple

00:47:12.260 a man and a woman come in 1.00

00:47:13.780 she's dressed

00:47:15.080 she's on date night

00:47:16.640 and by the way

00:47:17.280 and I love

00:47:17.900 people dress up

00:47:18.960 I love this

00:47:20.180 okay

00:47:20.420 of course 1.00

00:47:20.980 She's got high heels on. 0.93

00:47:22.880 She has a dress on.

00:47:24.800 They're led over to a two-top, a booth and a chair.

00:47:28.660 Wait.

00:47:28.960 He takes the booth.

00:47:29.720 What do you mean a booth and a chair?

00:47:31.340 Oh, got it.

00:47:32.140 It's like, yeah.

00:47:32.800 A bench and a chair.

00:47:33.920 I'm sorry, a bankette or whatever.

00:47:35.980 He takes the booth. 0.98

00:47:38.700 Wow. 1.00

00:47:38.960 I go, I almost walked up to the table, pushed him in his chest and said, give her the booth. 0.99

00:47:47.340 Yeah. 1.00

00:47:48.520 You fucking animal. 1.00

00:47:49.860 two knuckles to the sternum 1.00

00:47:51.800 to wake him up 1.00

00:47:53.180 to go are you dead 1.00

00:47:53.920 are you

00:47:54.520 this is how the nurses check

00:47:55.520 wake up 1.00

00:47:56.060 I don't know

00:47:56.800 okay

00:47:57.100 that's how they check

00:47:59.460 yeah yeah

00:48:00.860 I learned this

00:48:01.520 a long long time ago

00:48:03.100 when I was

00:48:03.720 dating a med student

00:48:05.060 if you can imagine

00:48:05.860 okay but he's like

00:48:06.480 give him one of these

00:48:07.380 so cool

00:48:09.200 okay

00:48:09.800 and give him one of these

00:48:11.000 like he came across

00:48:12.140 someone in a hallway

00:48:12.800 on a bed

00:48:14.200 and he's like

00:48:14.700 did someone leave

00:48:15.760 like a cadaver here

00:48:16.980 you know

00:48:17.320 no

00:48:17.720 something sexy

00:48:19.840 about being a doctor.

00:48:22.000 Yeah.

00:48:22.520 Yeah.

00:48:25.260 Yeah.

00:48:25.900 He gave her the,

00:48:26.900 he made her sit in the chair.

00:48:28.520 Is it possible?

00:48:30.400 No,

00:48:31.220 it's not.

00:48:32.060 Well,

00:48:32.200 just thinking where was the bank?

00:48:33.380 Is it possible?

00:48:33.860 What's possible?

00:48:34.780 Hey,

00:48:34.980 do you want the chair?

00:48:35.560 Actually,

00:48:36.480 the chair seating in some way

00:48:38.540 was a back issue.

00:48:39.420 Was it positioned better?

00:48:40.300 Like better view?

00:48:43.660 Just trying to think.

00:48:44.700 I don't think so.

00:48:45.860 I wouldn't say it was better.

00:48:47.160 But I was looking around the room,

00:48:49.080 like way too eager to make eye contact with like other people. 1.00

00:48:53.060 I feel like there are swingers there. 1.00

00:48:55.720 There's like, 1.00

00:48:56.240 no.

00:48:56.600 And by the way,

00:48:57.060 like swingers,

00:48:58.880 I feel like people are there like meet up.

00:49:01.380 Really?

00:49:02.260 I was there.

00:49:03.040 I was going,

00:49:03.440 why am I having,

00:49:04.320 why do I feel like I could like be like,

00:49:07.160 can I watch?

00:49:08.420 If you just feel like,

00:49:09.840 sure.

00:49:11.160 Well,

00:49:11.360 there's a,

00:49:11.760 there's a weird,

00:49:12.740 you mean just like to the next table.

00:49:14.420 Yeah.

00:49:15.280 I was observing people on dates.

00:49:17.000 I couldn't stop looking over.

00:49:18.660 Yeah.

00:49:18.900 Wanted to be like, so.

00:49:19.740 I was looking around too.

00:49:20.420 Exploring plant.

00:49:21.200 We're exploring plant-based.

00:49:23.040 Yeah, totally.

00:49:25.060 We've got to go to Planta. 0.99

00:49:26.200 Holy shit. 0.99

00:49:27.160 But Planta looks tasty. 0.98

00:49:29.520 Well, Planta, I'll just say this.

00:49:30.580 Cleaner, right?

00:49:31.180 I'll just say this.

00:49:31.840 Yeah.

00:49:32.740 I mean, you know what I mean?

00:49:33.680 It's like vegan sushi.

00:49:34.840 But they did this thing that was like an eggplant nigiri

00:49:38.000 where they smoked the eggplant where it's like,

00:49:40.440 that is, it tastes like the chard, like a fish.

00:49:45.200 Like I was blown away.

00:49:46.360 Okay.

00:49:46.460 Well, I can imagine the cold eggplant tasting like fish.

00:49:49.700 It was warm.

00:49:50.440 I can really, oh.

00:49:52.000 Yeah, it was warm.

00:49:53.020 It was like charbroiled.

00:49:54.640 Mm, wow.

00:49:55.620 Charbroiled, you know what I'm trying to say when they flame torch it.

00:49:58.620 Yeah.

00:50:07.400 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.

00:50:11.460 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.

00:50:16.460 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune.

00:50:20.640 It was hard to wrap your head around.

00:50:21.980 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

00:50:25.600 No, I am not your guru.

00:50:29.380 And back then, I lied to my parents.

00:50:32.020 I lied to police.

00:50:33.300 I lied to everybody.

00:50:34.020 There were years right where I could not say your name.

00:50:37.300 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,

00:50:39.940 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,

00:50:42.740 whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.

00:50:45.940 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend?

00:50:50.700 They have had this case for 30 years. 0.95

00:50:53.620 I'll teach you sons of a** to come around here and my wife. 0.90

00:50:56.640 Boom, boom. 0.97

00:50:57.960 This is The Red Weather.

00:51:00.940 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:51:08.700 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, from The Girlfriends.

00:51:11.760 the number one hit true crime show that puts women right in the centre of their own stories.

00:51:18.520 I'm back with more one-off interviews with some truly kick-ass women on The Girlfriend's Spotlight. 0.96

00:51:25.520 I want to introduce you to Sylvia. 0.99

00:51:28.080 I'm going to climb this.

00:51:30.820 And then there's Vaisaka.

00:51:32.580 Let's see how we can stop killing and save lives.

00:51:36.680 Leila dared to ask the question.

00:51:39.140 Is badness hereditary?

00:51:41.200 And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.

00:51:43.300 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived,

00:51:46.140 she wouldn't have died on that fatal night.

00:51:49.060 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,

00:51:50.800 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.

00:51:53.820 I'm not too intimidated by her.

00:51:55.240 What are you talking about? 1.00

00:51:58.200 Listen to The Girlfriend Spotlight

00:52:00.000 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

00:52:02.540 or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:52:08.580 Hi, I'm Lisa Trager.

00:52:10.660 And I'm Cara Clank.

00:52:11.880 We're comedians and your favorite overly invested SVU watchers.

00:52:15.680 On That's Messed Up, an SVU podcast,

00:52:17.780 we recap iconic episodes, then talk to the stars who lived them.

00:52:21.540 Like the legendary Matthew Lillard, who will never forget his time on SVU.

00:52:25.760 I do remember the mustache.

00:52:27.940 I will get a meme of that mustache like every like six days.

00:52:33.480 I'll be like, what was this?

00:52:34.960 Each week we cover the crimes

00:52:38.980 Analyze the plot holes

00:52:40.120 And insult the outfits

00:52:41.180 Benson goes to talk to Kelly

00:52:43.820 To like tell her the news

00:52:45.040 But is wearing a beret 0.99

00:52:46.300 Not the time for a silly hat, Benson 0.97

00:52:49.020 What are you doing? 0.93

00:52:51.400 New episodes drop every Tuesday

00:52:53.140 On the Exactly Right Network

00:52:54.480 Listen to That's Messed Up

00:52:56.100 On iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts

00:52:58.180 Or wherever you get your podcasts

00:52:59.820 Dun dun!

00:53:05.640 Crook and Chase Nashville chats with the true-life adventures of hot new country star Hudson Westbrook.

00:53:10.560 Early in his career, he shocked his mom more than once,

00:53:13.780 and we even shocked him on what we had to do to get to visit with him.

00:53:18.380 I've seen some people do some crazy things, but nothing like that.

00:53:21.280 Plus, what Hudson almost had in common with Billy Bob Thornton.

00:53:25.200 Crook and Chase Nashville chats with Hudson Westbrook.

00:53:27.760 Listen and subscribe on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

00:53:34.960 something that happened to me yesterday that i didn't even realize that i hadn't uttered and i

00:53:43.100 uttered it right before the podcast i wanted to tell you because i was like is this the sign of

00:53:47.300 someone who's anxious probably first of all a couple months ago i i read somewhere oh when

00:53:54.460 you're seeing your red nails and i'm just remembering that i i dreamt last night i was

00:53:58.460 getting a a red manicure okay anyway this is kind of an orangey ferrari yeah very summery red

00:54:04.660 Oh, by the way, Hallowell says ADHD brain is Ferrari, Ferrari brain.

00:54:13.020 With bad brakes.

00:54:14.380 Yeah.

00:54:14.620 Bad brakes. 0.93

00:54:14.940 Chevy brakes.

00:54:15.640 Yeah.

00:54:15.880 Sorry, Chevy.

00:54:16.900 And it makes a lot of sense.

00:54:20.240 I, you know, about a month ago, experiencing a lot of stress, I heard that being startled

00:54:25.540 easily is like a...

00:54:27.060 Oh, yeah.

00:54:27.880 It's like a...

00:54:28.500 I heard that.

00:54:29.320 I read that was an ADD thing.

00:54:31.260 Oh, really?

00:54:32.720 You're kidding.

00:54:33.080 yeah because you're like if you're essentially your attention's locked on something because i

00:54:40.060 would say i am startled a little easily i'm like i think i'm like didn't you see me scream when

00:54:45.580 chris dropped off the something yeah yeah totally i've had so i um i i had this happen about a month

00:54:52.680 ago where i had you know like a garage clicker i was holding the garage clicker you picture it's

00:54:56.800 kind of a little black object. I was holding it in my hand. I saw it in my periphery. I didn't

00:55:02.980 scream, but I kind of did like a, I thought, yeah, I thought it was like some, like a rat or

00:55:09.100 something. I just couldn't, I was like, and then it was just, I was holding the clicker. It was

00:55:14.060 really, I was like, that's a little bit much. To be shocked by something in your own hand.

00:55:19.000 Yeah. And I was really scared. Like something in your periphery that was in your own hand.

00:55:22.400 Yeah, yeah. And that's kind of unusual. But yesterday I'm driving with my mother. Always a struggle, but I'm driving. I'm driving. Yeah. And I said, but, but I was feeling kind of like, okay, so it's okay. So we're parking by this restaurant. Right. And I was like, Hey, you get out because I was like pulling up close to a big bush or it's like, she wouldn't be able to get out in all parks. You're not going right into the bush.

00:55:47.760 she sure gets out um i'm starting a parallel park i hear or just it wasn't a parallel that's

00:55:54.660 not important i started to park i heard by the way as i'm parking i hear maybe this like

00:55:59.220 like the tiniest sound like could it be like i just the tiniest terrified yeah okay so small

00:56:06.740 that it barely registered and i didn't even react to it okay so i park i get out of the car

00:56:11.340 I come out

00:56:12.980 Mom

00:56:13.440 Okay

00:56:15.360 She's not there

00:56:16.940 I go

00:56:18.000 Mom

00:56:18.980 My adrenaline

00:56:22.860 My adrenaline

00:56:24.080 I go

00:56:26.740 Did I just

00:56:27.900 Did I just clean 0.94

00:56:29.480 Run over my mother 0.87

00:56:31.040 Yeah

00:56:31.780 I was almost shaking

00:56:32.920 And then you remember the sound

00:56:33.720 I got my first

00:56:34.500 My first thing was

00:56:35.260 I got into the car

00:56:36.220 And I pull forward

00:56:37.740 Wait that's

00:56:38.480 Bizarre behavior

00:56:39.800 I pull forward

00:56:40.960 No, I mean, because like, if you just run over, you could just run over again.

00:56:44.060 There's nothing there.

00:56:45.980 Like, do you see what I'm saying?

00:56:47.260 That's the wrong move. 1.00

00:56:48.600 I look, okay, shit. 0.99

00:56:50.720 Then I looked under the car. 0.99

00:56:53.400 Right.

00:56:53.720 I'm like shaking.

00:56:55.360 And then the relief, I go, I didn't hit her.

00:56:58.700 Okay.

00:56:59.360 I come around and then she comes around the corner kind of like, and she has this puzzled

00:57:03.780 look on her face like, A, what's taking you so long?

00:57:06.000 Right?

00:57:06.280 Yeah.

00:57:06.760 And I've parked kind of like the first parking job was perfect. 0.94

00:57:09.400 Like the second job is kind of shitty because my nerves are shot and I thought I had cleanly run over and killed her. 0.94

00:57:13.960 Yeah. 0.95

00:57:14.240 And I don't mention it.

00:57:15.080 I just kind of go into lunch.

00:57:17.520 And I forgot to relay it.

00:57:20.240 No, no, no.

00:57:20.780 Wait.

00:57:21.320 I feel like I've had that recently where it was so scary.

00:57:25.280 I was adrenaline.

00:57:26.520 I was like, it's happened.

00:57:28.680 Yeah.

00:57:29.100 Yeah.

00:57:29.480 Where did that happen to me recently?

00:57:30.720 Where I was convinced, like full body reaction, like it's happened.

00:57:36.300 It's happening.

00:57:37.180 Like, you know what I mean?

00:57:38.300 Like, I'm trying to be what it was.

00:57:40.720 It's the funniest thing in the comeback when Valerie Cherish gets bit, 0.64

00:57:44.540 not even bitten by the dog, but like scratched.

00:57:46.340 She goes, it happened.

00:57:49.380 It's like so, it's so familiar.

00:57:53.580 Like, or even, or I have, I have a fear of white oleander.

00:57:56.940 This is these things like my mother, remember when I was a child,

00:57:59.540 told me the story of white oleander.

00:58:01.660 And we were going, that's a poisonous flower to white oleander.

00:58:04.840 She goes, there was a family who went on a picnic and they stirred their fruit punch with a white oleander branch and the family of four died.

00:58:11.780 And they found the four of them at the picnic.

00:58:13.520 My mother's not like a terrifying person, okay?

00:58:15.820 Yes.

00:58:16.340 I mean, who knows?

00:58:16.960 But I remember her telling me that as a child.

00:58:18.940 And I was like, okay, well, permanent archive.

00:58:23.380 Like, why are we, and why are we like, is there white oleander on the back?

00:58:26.600 Near white oleander, yeah.

00:58:28.260 I'm like, well, Boo could eat that.

00:58:30.200 Yeah, yeah.

00:58:30.540 No, totally.

00:58:30.980 so white oleander

00:58:32.200 I think it's only fatal

00:58:33.240 in humans

00:58:33.840 though

00:58:34.220 which is weird

00:58:34.880 how could that be

00:58:36.220 that can't be

00:58:36.700 true

00:58:36.860 that could be

00:58:37.140 okay so

00:58:38.520 there's an oleander

00:58:40.620 there's a big oleander bush

00:58:42.200 on the side of the house

00:58:43.020 and

00:58:43.840 the doctor I know this

00:58:44.700 okay

00:58:44.960 the other night

00:58:45.920 um

00:58:47.100 they were cutting down

00:58:48.220 the oleander

00:58:49.100 for um

00:58:50.320 because it's like

00:58:50.760 near the vent

00:58:51.500 whatever

00:58:51.800 the point is

00:58:52.420 it was a

00:58:52.760 it was a smart thing

00:58:53.720 it was a safety thing

00:58:54.680 because of the hot air

00:58:55.380 being blown out

00:58:55.980 okay

00:58:56.280 right

00:58:57.340 my partner was wise enough

00:58:58.260 to know we should prune it back

00:58:59.240 so it's like

00:59:00.320 they're pruning it back I'm holding a flashlight okay I'm making sure that they don't accidentally

00:59:05.540 take a little bite yeah or no just like so then they start gathering and I go

00:59:10.580 they just got a tattoo like a new tattoo yeah so like maybe like the skin's a little open I go

00:59:16.420 whoa whoa whoa I was like careful careful careful I was like the white oleander should not get into

00:59:21.840 your open wound and I and then and I kind of and they were like it's and they're very sweet they

00:59:25.940 were like it's fine like i'm wearing like it's really knocking paul and i yeah and i and i kind

00:59:29.780 of like very i very sternly said it's fatal yeah like if it goes in your mouth you know and i was

00:59:39.100 like so and then i found myself near the white oleander not breathing not taking deep breaths

00:59:44.100 like i was like scared of um it would be nice to know like um what movie was white oleander huge

00:59:54.080 cast, right? Michelle Pfeiffer

00:59:56.040 and... Say no more.

00:59:58.960 White oleander. In the seat.

01:00:00.660 All I need is Michelle. 1.00

01:00:02.420 You know what's kind of a fun summer movie 1.00

01:00:04.260 is What Lies Beneath. Oh, yeah.

01:00:06.600 That's like... I'm only saying summer because

01:00:08.440 there's water. Yeah. Oleander

01:00:10.040 poisoning. What Lies Beneath fucking 1.00

01:00:12.180 rules, if you haven't seen it. 0.99

01:00:13.920 Nausea, vomiting, cardiac

01:00:15.240 abnormal.

01:00:17.340 I'm just curious, like, how much

01:00:20.020 is needed.

01:00:22.240 How much white oleander do you have to

01:00:23.760 My friend, my friend, um, wait, hold on a second.

01:00:28.980 I'm leaving Laurel Canyon and what?

01:00:33.440 Oh man, I may have, I may be consigning my couch and, you know,

01:00:38.620 I had the moment of panic of like, can't let it go.

01:00:41.640 Wait, what couch?

01:00:43.000 What?

01:00:43.820 My like, like seventies.

01:00:46.500 Oh yeah.

01:00:47.000 You're old school.

01:00:47.740 Yeah.

01:00:48.300 Yeah.

01:00:48.900 And can't let it go.

01:00:49.780 By the way, how are you even fitting it in the house?

01:00:51.820 Please send me a picture.

01:00:52.680 I beg you.

01:00:53.760 I will.

01:00:54.800 I have ways.

01:00:58.660 Anytime people think things don't fit,

01:01:00.580 I find a way.

01:01:01.900 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:01:02.680 Okay, it's like I balance things on top of each other.

01:01:05.940 Where can you do that?

01:01:06.780 By consigning, you mean sell?

01:01:07.380 Someone's doing it.

01:01:09.280 Someone's offered to do it

01:01:10.560 and has like a store.

01:01:13.080 Okay.

01:01:13.400 Well, we'll see.

01:01:14.180 I'm not sure.

01:01:14.700 We'll see.

01:01:16.740 But I have to let it go.

01:01:17.880 I texted my friend Paul

01:01:20.120 who was there for my big couch search years ago.

01:01:23.080 and i was like tell me it's okay to let it go you know like it's not yeah no he was like he was

01:01:29.240 like let's see exactly what he said because he was there i went through a psychotic couch um search

01:01:35.540 okay i'm so yeah i know couches are let's see where he is they'll shave years off your life

01:01:40.460 years i spent trying to find the right couch back back when i got this one and so i forgot about

01:01:46.540 i have to write it down i forgot about something i've been doing for maybe three days it's changed

01:01:49.660 my life can't wait what grounding we just got yes we discussed it briefly yeah we kicked it

01:01:55.080 off together jacqueline came over um he said get rid of it and he knows that couch originally told

01:02:01.440 me yes get that one you know yeah loves it gets it knows the whole thing okay he's like get rid of

01:02:06.660 it when a friend tells you something he goes you've had it yeah it's interesting thing about

01:02:13.180 but you've had it.

01:02:14.880 Oof, I love that.

01:02:15.380 Okay, he goes,

01:02:16.240 it was stellar

01:02:16.920 and now needs to move on.

01:02:18.900 Ooh, I love it.

01:02:20.300 I love it.

01:02:21.300 And I'm like-

01:02:22.060 Is Paul so excited

01:02:22.760 that you're plant-based now?

01:02:24.480 Yes.

01:02:25.900 Greer LinkedIn archives

01:02:26.800 or at Einstein's underscore NYC

01:02:28.940 where I get all my special things.

01:02:30.660 Everyone knows.

01:02:32.040 Huge announcement.

01:02:33.560 Sleeping with the phone

01:02:34.920 in another room.

01:02:36.360 I know people have been doing this.

01:02:37.560 I did it one night.

01:02:38.080 And yes,

01:02:38.620 the internet router is still blazing

01:02:40.200 near my head.

01:02:40.720 Yeah.

01:02:41.060 All hours.

01:02:41.960 I have to figure that out.

01:02:42.880 it's the family hearth

01:02:45.580 EMF coming out of a router

01:02:48.760 you just sit around it for warmth

01:02:49.980 oh god it's not EMF

01:02:52.260 what is it

01:02:53.540 I don't know

01:02:54.600 someone was like it's fine

01:02:57.460 so phone in the other room

01:03:00.820 waking up

01:03:01.640 going and putting my feet

01:03:04.340 flat on the ground

01:03:06.140 by ground I mean grass patch

01:03:07.980 if you're lucky enough to have

01:03:10.680 earth

01:03:11.220 any earth will do

01:03:14.360 feet on the ground 0.75

01:03:16.560 head up

01:03:18.100 facing the sun

01:03:19.160 eyes closed of course

01:03:20.740 but directly on the face

01:03:21.980 sun

01:03:22.380 not for a long time

01:03:23.580 I'm talking about

01:03:24.120 also you want to keep

01:03:24.900 your eyes open

01:03:25.480 not when you stare at the sun

01:03:26.720 no but you want to be out there

01:03:28.120 but you want to make sure

01:03:29.880 they get in the retina

01:03:30.720 or you're not going to get

01:03:31.500 the melatonin

01:03:33.020 wait what do you mean exactly

01:03:34.780 it's got to go in the eyes

01:03:35.540 doesn't it go in your eyes

01:03:37.780 even if your eyes are closed

01:03:38.720 your eyes are right there

01:03:39.920 underneath the skin

01:03:40.760 Well, when I had to have a major sleep intervention, the doctor, the head of the sleep center said, where I was like, can I get a bright light that wakes me up in the morning, like the light wakes me up? And she's like, that's not going to do it for you. You need to sit in front of this blue light for 30 minutes at the start of the day with your eyes open. You know, so I don't know. But my point is, make sure you stay out there for a few minutes, just normal sunshine.

01:04:04.820 People do like sun gazing. Yeah, yeah, totally.

01:04:06.140 I'm not saying sun gaze. I'm saying...

01:04:07.760 No, I know you're not.

01:04:08.440 Okay, don't. Okay.

01:04:09.740 No, no, absolute freaks

01:04:12.160 We're not a sun-gazing community here

01:04:13.940 But I just put my head up

01:04:16.040 But even just feeling the morning sun on your face

01:04:19.600 Uninterrupted

01:04:21.780 Like, it feels good 0.97

01:04:23.420 I feel like it's fucking done something 0.98

01:04:26.500 I get outside as quickly as I can 0.97

01:04:28.000 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.

01:04:40.800 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.

01:04:46.020 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune.

01:04:50.020 It was hard to wrap your head around.

01:04:51.360 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

01:04:54.640 so no i am not your guru and back then i lied to my parents i lied to police i lied to everybody

01:05:03.460 there were years right where i could not say your name i've decided to go back to my hometown in

01:05:08.340 northern california interview my friends family talk to police journalists whomever i can to try

01:05:13.440 to find out what actually happened isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies

01:05:17.960 in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend they have had this case for 30 years i'll teach you

01:05:23.700 Sons of **** come round here and my wife.

01:05:26.000 Boom, boom. 0.97

01:05:27.340 This is The Red Weather.

01:05:30.260 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app,

01:05:32.920 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

01:05:38.020 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, from The Girlfriends,

01:05:41.440 the number one hit true crime show

01:05:43.780 that puts women right in the center of their own stories.

01:05:47.900 I'm back with more one-off interviews 1.00

01:05:50.040 with some truly kick-ass women 0.98

01:05:52.340 on The Girlfriend's Spotlight. 1.00

01:05:55.000 I want to introduce you to Sylvia.

01:05:57.460 I'm going to climb this.

01:05:59.860 And then there's Vaisaka.

01:06:01.960 Let's see how we can stop killing and save lives.

01:06:06.060 Leila dared to ask the question.

01:06:08.540 Is badness hereditary?

01:06:10.580 And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.

01:06:12.720 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived,

01:06:15.520 she wouldn't have died on that fatal night.

01:06:18.440 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,

01:06:20.060 who I can always count on

01:06:21.580 to keep my feet on the ground.

01:06:23.220 I'm not too intimidated by her.

01:06:24.620 What are you talking about? 1.00

01:06:27.560 Listen to The Girlfriend Spotlight 1.00

01:06:29.380 on the iHeartRadio app,

01:06:31.000 Apple Podcasts,

01:06:31.920 or wherever you get your podcasts.

01:06:37.900 Hi, I'm Lisa Trager.

01:06:40.200 And I'm Cara Clank.

01:06:41.260 We're comedians

01:06:41.960 and your favorite

01:06:42.700 overly invested SVU watchers.

01:06:45.040 On That's Messed Up,

01:06:45.940 an SVU podcast,

01:06:47.160 we recap iconic episodes,

01:06:48.960 then talk to the stars

01:06:50.000 who lived them, like the legendary

01:06:51.740 Matthew Lillard, who will never forget his time on

01:06:53.900 SVU.

01:06:55.160 I do remember the mustache.

01:06:57.340 I would get a meme

01:06:59.960 of that mustache like every

01:07:01.680 six days. I'd be like, what was

01:07:03.960 this?

01:07:06.700 Each week, we cover the

01:07:07.940 crimes, analyze the plot holes, and insult

01:07:09.980 the outfits. 0.96

01:07:11.720 Benson goes to talk to Kelly to tell her

01:07:13.940 the news, but is wearing a beret. 0.98

01:07:16.420 Not the time for a silly hat, 0.99

01:07:18.140 Benson. What are you doing? 0.99

01:07:20.740 New episodes drop every Tuesday on the Exactly Right Network.

01:07:24.160 Listen to That's Messed Up on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

01:07:30.400 Dun-dun!

01:07:34.960 Crook and Chase Nashville chats with the true-life adventures of hot new country star Hudson Westbrook.

01:07:39.940 Early in his career, he shocked his mom more than once.

01:07:43.160 And we even shocked him on what we had to do to get to visit with him.

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01:08:08.560 I can't do the whole delay coffee thing yet.

01:08:11.020 No, no.

01:08:11.460 I'm not there yet.

01:08:12.000 Oh, God, because Dr. B was talking about Dr. Busslewitz, fiber-fueled.

01:08:17.640 what he's he's the plant point he's the pant point um plant point and by the way i got to

01:08:24.940 the end of the book where he has like this meal plan for fully you know developing the microbiome

01:08:30.220 the whole thing 30 plants a week okay variety is meaning like make sure you have 30 different

01:08:35.020 plants a week right and anyway i got to his thing it was wild it was like here's this it was like

01:08:41.800 it's it's kind of like mind-blowing if i if i pull it out recipes whatever whatever it doesn't

01:08:45.660 point is but he's like talking about how he delays the caffeine as part of his you know 12 hours from

01:08:53.300 when he last ate to when he eats you know he does 12 to 16 hours or whatever it is so you know um

01:08:59.260 but he does not do coffee during the fasted period okay he holds until he eats because it gives the

01:09:08.920 microbiome a break i'm like what like basically letting the microbiome reset yeah it gives a

01:09:16.620 time i guess instead of sloshing the coffee down there oh my god i back on anatomy okay

01:09:25.300 started googling you know how big is the stomach for real you know because my visual of a basin

01:09:34.340 in my torso yeah like a pasta water pot yeah that the food is dropping into isn't cutting it you

01:09:42.220 know what i mean and it's not helping me have an accurate sense of glove what i need glove

01:09:46.400 yeah it's very glove like so so i go i'm googling i was i couldn't have been more happy i see it

01:09:52.540 because i see a video of a guy who you know come on cadavers okay yeah he's there with his cadavers

01:09:59.740 and he shows you things.

01:10:00.720 And I'm like, yes, you didn't see a body,

01:10:02.900 but you saw a stomach on a table.

01:10:05.260 Jesus.

01:10:05.820 Yes, you and I are different now, right?

01:10:06.760 And it looks like a little purse.

01:10:08.520 Yeah.

01:10:09.240 Okay, it looks like a purse.

01:10:11.140 And he's like, you know,

01:10:12.360 people say it can hold four liters.

01:10:14.140 Let's see, this one, you know,

01:10:15.400 he was able to get two liters into it.

01:10:16.800 Of what?

01:10:17.220 Of water.

01:10:18.400 But the thing is, when it's not alive,

01:10:21.780 it's tenser.

01:10:23.040 It doesn't expand in the same way.

01:10:26.060 But he's showing it.

01:10:27.060 And I was like, I don't know.

01:10:29.560 I'm just I'm intrigued and it's weird how the stomach is like on the side kind of like how the

01:10:33.760 heart is on the side. Calling your stomach your purse? My purse hurts.

01:10:40.180 So I was just like I don't know I was getting into that. Maybe right now we should pivot back

01:10:46.140 to the the threads I wanted to give you. Okay let's wrap up with the threads. First one I was

01:10:50.460 going to wrap up was sunscreen. Okay so Charlotte of Dove says here's how she does it to reapply 1.00

01:10:57.440 over makeup because of the two-hour thing. 1.00

01:10:59.720 Okay.

01:11:00.240 Okay, because that's going to be a huge...

01:11:01.960 You're going to resist that.

01:11:03.940 If you've really done makeup,

01:11:05.940 foundation brush.

01:11:08.360 Slide it in.

01:11:09.160 Squirt.

01:11:09.780 Not even blend.

01:11:11.400 Gently paint, paint, paint, paint, paint,

01:11:12.920 right over the top.

01:11:14.360 This also holds true for just doing it

01:11:17.060 on top of your makeup

01:11:17.760 should you decide to do it that way.

01:11:20.260 I feel, I mean, okay.

01:11:22.360 Whatever.

01:11:22.840 I thought that was compelling.

01:11:24.120 No, no, it is compelling.

01:11:25.320 I'm just trying to think.

01:11:26.180 god it's hard yeah i just like how do you reapply that's how how to reapply i mean

01:11:32.660 you want to know how i'm managing yeah sunscreen in every everywhere yeah yeah it's my just like

01:11:40.060 the spritz which i have to reincorporate okay by the way that is one of the principles and tips

01:11:46.800 offered in this book i'm reading organizing the add way whatever i'll post the exact book yeah

01:11:51.460 are you ready so what might seem like like i'm just telling you this is huge okay and like

01:11:59.940 i'm ready i'm ready her her i started wildly sending you like screen grabs because i think

01:12:05.220 i miss them yeah yeah i was like she's not reading these okay because she'd be losing her

01:12:10.060 mind or i was like but i was like panicked and like being the right one i didn't even read ones

01:12:14.840 i didn't even read it so go back and look at it so she it's exactly the thing we talked about way

01:12:20.720 back where i was like i need oh you sent me a lot of little okay sorry i will look at this

01:12:25.060 i was like i want someone with a phd to organize my house i need them it cannot be just good 0.73

01:12:31.300 organization there is so and she fucking gets it okay and she's like that's this kind of 0.91

01:12:38.860 organization is not ad ad appropriate it's not okay so she's using that kind of language like 0.95

01:12:44.500 this is not appropriate like this is not adhd appropriate so you know she gives so so basically

01:12:52.520 efficiency must be primary okay because it takes extra effort to do anything with the ad brain

01:12:59.940 basically okay it needs to be really easy or basically we won't do it sounds right okay

01:13:06.480 things you should prioritize things being easier to put away over um worrying about it being

01:13:13.480 difficult to retrieve. Okay. Because you're motivated at the beginning of a task. So you'll

01:13:18.640 hunt for the plate, whatever, or reach further back as you're excited. Cause I want to make

01:13:22.800 ice cream now. Okay. Yeah. Finishing tasks in quote, finishing tasks is a huge thing.

01:13:28.740 That is, you are burnt out at that point and there's no motivation. Okay. So, so you, so the

01:13:37.420 only things that get put away for me are like, it's in my hand and I can just reach and put it

01:13:41.840 on the shelf i've got mason jars filled with you know dried beans and and spices now on these

01:13:46.920 magnetic things on the side of my fridge and they're they get put away every single time

01:13:50.580 because i just put it back there on the fridge okay just boom okay so so part of that is no

01:13:57.140 crossing rooms okay you shouldn't have to cross a room to whatever throw the thing out because

01:14:04.980 Because you'll get distracted on the way.

01:14:07.360 And that's real.

01:14:09.900 Crossing rooms is a huge...

01:14:11.520 So sometimes I will plant my feet somewhere

01:14:13.860 and not allow myself to move while doing a task

01:14:17.280 to clean things in that area.

01:14:19.460 Anyway.

01:14:19.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:14:20.280 No storing the thing in the basement, okay?

01:14:22.780 Wait, Jaclyn.

01:14:23.880 You go down to the basement to get the paper towels.

01:14:25.740 You see a project that needs to be finished.

01:14:27.700 You do all that.

01:14:28.360 Then you're into the other thing.

01:14:29.280 I relate to that deeply.

01:14:30.840 But Jaclyn, let's talk about our little four-minute exercise

01:14:34.300 the other day.

01:14:34.980 oh my god how cute that was yes we were both having paralysis yeah separately across the city

01:14:42.460 i am able to okay i can fly into action when i have a like i mean i can fly into like well kate

01:14:50.320 i have a strategy do you want to apply it with me i get excited and so i go we're gonna do

01:14:56.280 i'm doing time sessions oh yeah i bought these visual timers i bought this ticking timer like

01:15:01.540 a kitchen timer i've got going right now a little dinosaur on it so it's like friendly um you know

01:15:07.300 i'm trying to live so on text we were like i'm like all right let's do five minutes time four

01:15:14.720 oh yeah oh yeah i can't commit to yeah five so it was like four minutes and you helped me

01:15:23.100 it was like i was like i have to fold the laundry you know it was like i went from being frozen

01:15:30.960 got so much done

01:15:33.200 so then you were like

01:15:34.620 so I go timers up

01:15:37.000 okay and you're like

01:15:38.780 oh my god you know and you're like

01:15:41.000 okay let's do like longer like 10 minutes

01:15:42.880 I'm like Kate okay I'm not ready

01:15:45.180 for that because it's got

01:15:47.000 to be like doable I'm like I need another

01:15:48.880 okay five you know five

01:15:50.880 towards the task whatever you're soaring

01:15:52.340 okay you're running around

01:15:53.980 and we got like an hour 0.99

01:15:56.840 of shit done 0.97

01:15:58.040 everything was yeah 0.99

01:16:00.780 Got a lot done

01:16:02.380 Got a lot done together

01:16:03.640 I'm looking at the flowers

01:16:04.520 That you brought me

01:16:05.260 I love you

01:16:07.700 I love you

01:16:08.640 We have to go

01:16:10.000 Wait

01:16:10.860 There's

01:16:11.260 Okay

01:16:11.960 But wait

01:16:13.180 The unfinished thing

01:16:14.260 Okay

01:16:15.320 The ADD principles

01:16:16.140 I can share over the coming weeks

01:16:17.680 Yeah

01:16:18.620 What were the other

01:16:20.020 Unfinished

01:16:20.640 Sprouts

01:16:22.040 And meal prep

01:16:22.980 There's no time

01:16:24.200 And you're

01:16:25.920 You're burnt

01:16:26.580 You're burnt

01:16:28.400 Yeah

01:16:28.900 So I'm not gonna

01:16:29.660 Waste it on you now

01:16:30.700 yeah thank you

01:16:31.620 bring it to you next week

01:16:32.640 yeah I can't wait

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