Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - August 22, 2023


Give Me 7 Days

Piano-playing Baby POOG: Keep Out

Episode Stats


Length

56 minutes

Words per minute

172.58

Word count

9,713

Sentence count

653

Harmful content

Misogyny

29

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Toxicity

102

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Hate speech

45

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Transcript

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00:01:35.340 You know Roald Dahl.
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00:01:47.440 What?
00:01:48.360 You probably won't believe it either.
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00:02:36.100 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.
00:02:37.600 I'm Jacqueline Novak.
00:02:38.720 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.
00:02:43.440 Two untamable intellects.
00:02:45.220 This is our hobby. 0.97
00:02:46.060 This is our hell.
00:02:46.920 This is our naked desire for free products.
00:02:48.960 This is POOG.
00:02:50.620 Today's topic, loosely speaking, brown water.
00:02:53.760 Durational lie, dude.
00:02:59.920 Hey.
00:03:00.780 Is that Ilya?
00:03:01.840 It's Glossier.
00:03:03.060 Great.
00:03:04.200 Wait, did I get those?
00:03:06.300 The answer is no.
00:03:07.180 You were calling my Glossier package.
00:03:08.780 Took mere months.
00:03:09.900 They'd forgotten all about me.
00:03:11.600 Little did I know you were enjoying product after product. 1.00
00:03:14.100 And then they sent you that shit. 1.00
00:03:15.320 I never got that. 1.00
00:03:16.400 Because we made lists. 1.00
00:03:18.060 Oh God, I'm stupid. 1.00
00:03:19.860 I hate being so stupid. 1.00
00:03:21.720 I don't have that 1.00
00:03:24.200 well what
00:03:25.800 I you know I studied
00:03:28.180 well you probably move forward
00:03:30.360 with your life doing things of value
00:03:32.400 cool
00:03:34.520 so my mouth my mouth is the
00:03:36.320 sound of six pieces of paper
00:03:38.320 flipping through a book
00:03:39.980 alright let's
00:03:41.140 crack open a celsius
00:03:42.360 I wish
00:03:43.340 my mood right now
00:03:46.380 hanging on by a thread
00:03:47.920 mostly due to the fact that I just went downstairs
00:03:49.920 as part of why I was late
00:03:51.720 there was a Chris are we out of Celsius okay couldn't believe it it was exactly like um
00:03:58.660 what am I watching right now oh yeah painkiller about oh yeah Oxycontin oh yeah yeah it was like
00:04:03.820 a scene out of that I know I have a friend's husband who's been addicted to Celsius and has
00:04:11.060 like the thick can that you can't even get no you have to go to like I feel like they like
00:04:15.620 administer them at hospitals it's like it's like a big Celsius can it's like a double like a
00:04:21.400 Coke can. By the way, Mark Hyman
00:04:23.560 sells Vital Proteins
00:04:25.240 Pro on his site. And I was like,
00:04:27.160 what?
00:04:28.840 Like professional, like colorless
00:04:31.500 medical bottle, but
00:04:33.040 branded. So I was like, what?
00:04:35.180 What are we getting? Yeah, I need that.
00:04:37.580 Is that drink, by the way, Swoon we begged for?
00:04:39.540 Haven't heard a word. Oh, I haven't. I don't think
00:04:41.340 I got that. You did get it. I bought it.
00:04:43.800 Oh.
00:04:45.200 OOP?
00:04:46.740 OOP out of pocket? Out of pocket, yeah.
00:04:49.100 I tried something before getting on.
00:04:51.400 you know the thing where you hold the liner to the edge of your nose and you know oh to get the
00:04:57.680 eye stick it up the way where the iris ends yeah to try to figure out where the um top of the brow
00:05:04.140 hook yeah land so that you can be successful in life and love yeah well my arch is way too close
00:05:12.360 to the middle of my face so trying to know you want that or the i meant to i'm trying to get it
00:05:17.420 to where I'm trying the pencil thing.
00:05:19.220 So I'm trying to force it to a new place. 1.00
00:05:22.800 Yeah, you've already got it, you bitch. 1.00
00:05:24.780 I've been experiencing- 1.00
00:05:26.460 There's a lot to discuss.
00:05:27.620 There's a lot to discuss.
00:05:28.580 I know, there's a lot.
00:05:29.860 Well, first of all, I've been experiencing that thing.
00:05:32.940 What's it called?
00:05:33.560 Like when you're like parasympathetic-
00:05:35.640 Schadenfreude.
00:05:37.040 Just kidding.
00:05:37.560 No, parasympathetic nerve system.
00:05:39.620 Remember the excitement around the word Schadenfreude?
00:05:41.760 All right.
00:05:42.060 Yeah, when you're like 21,
00:05:44.540 you learn that for the first time.
00:05:45.860 Yeah.
00:05:46.060 you know the thing where you're frozen
00:05:48.260 is it the parasympathetic nervous system 0.97
00:05:50.460 who fucking cares honestly at the end of the day 0.98
00:05:52.840 well we'll get to that in a second but yes 0.99
00:05:54.700 the thing when you're frozen you know
00:05:56.560 like everything you have to do but you're frozen
00:05:58.480 I've been having some freeze
00:06:02.640 stuff going on I also fell
00:06:04.640 off TM and I'm crawling back on my hands
00:06:06.820 and knees because I
00:06:08.660 really did feel I felt the
00:06:10.680 difference also I want to talk about when you
00:06:12.700 have dessert like five nights or no
00:06:14.640 when you have dessert like 14 nights in a row and then you then you need it every night that's
00:06:19.960 what i'm experiencing expected to to not and i was thinking it feels like yeah i was thinking
00:06:25.920 about what you one said about the it's like something in your stomach is screaming for sugar
00:06:30.240 because i i had the experience where i had like basically dessert 14 nights in a row
00:06:34.680 and then suddenly i was like i need sugar now like it was like a true talk about oxy um celsius all
00:06:44.080 of it I'm waiting for the doc I was actually imagining like a really dramatic uh doc and then
00:06:52.200 dramatized series about sugar where it's like fully like they fully go there and they're like
00:06:59.620 it was sugar the whole time right call it what it is yeah yeah well I couldn't believe it and
00:07:04.120 I found myself like I'm talking about a banana banana I found myself like you're allowed one
00:07:11.380 Because you climbed to the top of the tree.
00:07:13.480 I was sucking down like an Aperol Spritz boom, another Aperol Spritz boom, because I just
00:07:18.600 like wanted sugar.
00:07:19.760 Oh.
00:07:20.300 You know?
00:07:21.220 I mean, sorry, I'm just going to wrap myself in a towel.
00:07:25.980 Got a little chilly.
00:07:27.820 I'm just furious.
00:07:28.820 I spent 16, you know, units of effort trying to grab for makeup.
00:07:35.440 And what is the results?
00:07:37.360 This is hell.
00:07:38.360 I see results.
00:07:39.240 It's not fair.
00:07:39.640 Look at this.
00:07:40.600 Look at that.
00:07:41.040 I'm experiencing rapid aging.
00:07:43.360 Yeah.
00:07:43.500 I saw some photographs of myself from February and I went,
00:07:47.260 Oh,
00:07:47.820 I think London bridge is falling down.
00:07:50.460 Yeah.
00:07:52.020 Yeah.
00:07:52.560 Rock it by baby.
00:07:53.620 Like,
00:07:54.460 and by the way,
00:07:55.540 whatever.
00:07:56.600 Yeah.
00:07:56.800 But I'm like,
00:07:57.340 I need last night I got in bed.
00:07:59.420 I was with my Lima,
00:08:01.040 which I've been neglecting.
00:08:02.300 Oh,
00:08:02.480 you Lima.
00:08:03.240 Yeah.
00:08:03.620 I hit the Lima between the, 0.97
00:08:04.920 between the eyes.
00:08:06.500 And then I turned on the deepest breath,
00:08:09.060 which Jacqueline's been talking about.
00:08:10.500 Listen,
00:08:11.040 I turned it on and I go, oh, so this is an art film.
00:08:15.680 This is an unbelievable doc, guys.
00:08:17.520 I mean, you get why I was pushing.
00:08:19.220 I fell asleep because I was so tired, but I'm going to pick it up because I fell asleep early, like 11.
00:08:24.820 Woke up 3.30 thinking about it, was almost about to throw it on.
00:08:28.440 I'm like, Kate, don't do that.
00:08:29.340 Just go back to sleep.
00:08:30.240 It was in me already.
00:08:32.300 You sent me an image, which I believe is from the first two minutes of the film.
00:08:37.300 Yeah.
00:08:38.060 And she's coming back up along the line.
00:08:41.040 right? Did you turn it off right when you sent me that image?
00:08:45.720 No.
00:08:46.060 Did you even make it to the surface?
00:08:47.560 No, I made it to the surface.
00:08:49.400 Okay. So.
00:08:51.780 No, I know. We're not going to say anything.
00:08:55.640 I'm pretty sure I already even described it.
00:08:58.840 I wrote it down on a piece of paper before. Oh, my mood.
00:09:02.880 Let's talk about your mood. When are you back in LA? I miss you. And then also,
00:09:06.720 I do need to put out a formal calling all London hags. I'm coming to the Soho 1.00
00:09:10.940 theater a full month for you all September doing my show Kate so if you're in London if you have
00:09:16.580 friends there please send them kaperlant.com I met a few kaperlant.com thank you gonna be the
00:09:22.800 rage of London toast to the town I do love London and no she's not getting drinks with you after
00:09:28.520 i'll say that now so kate doesn't have to say it's a merch table
00:09:34.940 i i need to secure tahini broth miso now what did i just see oh miso in um was it a mark hyman
00:09:47.060 smoothie what i'm at my parents house they have the vitamix as you know i see my dad warming up
00:09:52.380 for a smoothie okay i go dad i have armor with me you got to add that i go that's the thing we're
00:09:57.900 talking about pook what is it i went i fell silent yeah okay not because i didn't think my dad could 0.99
00:10:02.880 and my mom was and i go oh yeah the bovine i didn't feel like saying bovine cock in my kitchen 0.98
00:10:09.680 like yeah totally do on the podcast yeah and my mom was like oh yeah that's disgusting or something 0.95
00:10:15.260 like i was like mom it's not actually bovine
00:10:18.580 I was like, I'm not sure what it is.
00:10:23.140 Let's stick with both eyes.
00:10:27.020 And I realized, you know, sneak it into this movie.
00:10:31.080 I go, what else is going in there?
00:10:32.520 I see him pulling out cranberries.
00:10:34.060 I'm like, what's going on?
00:10:35.280 Okay.
00:10:36.120 I'm like, all right, all right.
00:10:37.540 I see beet powder.
00:10:38.580 I'm like terrified.
00:10:39.500 I just, I worry.
00:10:40.880 But he's doing good work.
00:10:42.640 Good.
00:10:43.300 Good.
00:10:43.660 Golden milk, unsweetened.
00:10:44.880 Great.
00:10:45.420 Great.
00:10:45.700 protein powder
00:10:47.740 I said now we're gonna
00:10:49.260 throw some collagen in there
00:10:51.080 he goes what's that
00:10:52.680 does Greg even listen to the podcast
00:10:55.180 I know
00:10:55.540 and my mother goes
00:10:58.020 I hear her
00:10:59.760 will you give me a little shot of that when you make yours
00:11:02.480 a little shot of the smoothie
00:11:03.480 he goes I'll either make you the drink or I'm not
00:11:06.060 I want to get the amounts
00:11:07.360 you know these are dosed
00:11:08.960 like you put one timeline nutrition in
00:11:11.740 and he's like okay
00:11:14.060 and this is where I worry for my mother
00:11:15.660 And then I open a closet and I see a jar of...
00:11:21.000 Smuckers.
00:11:21.580 I don't even know what you call them. 1.00
00:11:23.080 Yeah.
00:11:23.640 Sugared gummy candy being marketed as calcium plus D3.
00:11:29.080 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:11:29.960 Totally.
00:11:30.880 And I took it out of the thing.
00:11:32.420 I threw it in the garbage.
00:11:33.360 Yeah.
00:11:33.680 Okay.
00:11:34.360 I wanted it.
00:11:34.940 It was full.
00:11:35.640 Yeah.
00:11:36.440 I wanted it resting on top of the garbage.
00:11:38.480 Yeah.
00:11:38.820 Now it's recyclable.
00:11:40.560 So normally I would have to... 0.99
00:11:42.280 Dump out the gummies. 0.62
00:11:43.240 dump out the gummies and then put the
00:11:45.060 other thing in the recycling but I wanted it laying
00:11:47.600 visibly the visual effect yeah
00:11:49.220 to see a full bottle of something
00:11:51.020 resting in the garbage
00:11:52.560 then I felt a little like this might
00:11:54.700 be too aggressive and even though I usually
00:11:57.120 bond her to them more deeply
00:11:58.380 right exactly so I pulled it back out
00:12:00.700 because as women once we link 0.99
00:12:03.120 guilt and pleasure 0.99
00:12:04.640 we're fucked or then whenever we see 0.99
00:12:07.140 guilt we think it's pleasure 0.99
00:12:08.520 so
00:12:10.220 I lifted them out put them back in the closet
00:12:13.220 and then did a public showing the next day
00:12:16.800 where I took them out and shook them into the trash 0.73
00:12:20.240 like a maraca. 1.00
00:12:22.260 Yeah.
00:12:23.220 And what did your mom do?
00:12:24.800 Well, first it was, you know,
00:12:25.940 that's the only way I'll take it.
00:12:27.800 Okay?
00:12:28.200 Yeah. 1.00
00:12:29.120 Then the cow's going.
00:12:30.580 Then I start putting it, whatever.
00:12:31.560 If you tell her you're not taking it,
00:12:33.180 it's not bioavailable.
00:12:34.000 Yeah, then you're not taking it.
00:12:35.140 You're not taking it.
00:12:36.180 Not only is it not bioavailable,
00:12:37.300 it's tucked inside of a...
00:12:39.100 Of a bomb that's going to go off.
00:12:40.700 Of a candy bomb.
00:12:42.320 Yeah.
00:12:43.220 what do you do when you go to a coffee shop and the coffee's not good
00:12:46.660 all right let's take a second well here's the thing i went to my local purveyor i went to
00:12:53.160 la colombe okay okay i got i go can i get a cafe au lait sometimes i feel naughty and i go i'll 0.98
00:12:58.200 have a cafe au lait with oat milk because oat milk because we know it's poison but god damn
00:13:01.580 is it creamy bread in a can a little bread in a can so not a latte in la i take two steps out 0.62
00:13:08.540 the front door of the coffee shop oh so it's water no it's completely tea weak and i just i
00:13:16.740 didn't i didn't want to go back in i would say water dressed in brown yeah brown water and i
00:13:22.080 just what do you even do well i consider going to a neighboring coffee shop getting a shot of
00:13:28.160 espresso and dumping it in there see there you're overvaluing i think saving the existing liquid
00:13:34.580 yeah just dump it
00:13:36.020 I would just go to the coffee shop
00:13:36.880 and get a fresh one
00:13:37.520 you mean go back in and complain
00:13:38.720 and say hey
00:13:39.440 not necessarily
00:13:40.220 depends on how much energy you have
00:13:41.780 to stand in your truth
00:13:43.440 here's what I should have done
00:13:44.920 here's what I can do
00:13:46.280 hey I'm so sorry I do this
00:13:48.020 but
00:13:48.220 I'm so sorry I do this
00:13:49.640 I'm in here a lot
00:13:50.620 and I'm afraid this is just a bit weak
00:13:52.420 it's impossible
00:13:52.960 maybe something went wrong
00:13:54.900 in the canister back there
00:13:56.340 like
00:13:57.100 what could it be
00:13:58.400 that's what I'll do next time
00:13:59.900 this morning I didn't have time 0.99
00:14:01.480 I made a shit cup of coffee 0.99
00:14:03.600 here at home 0.99
00:14:04.240 just doesn't set the mood right for the day.
00:14:06.320 To compensate?
00:14:07.200 No, no, no, sorry.
00:14:08.680 The bad coffee shop coffee was recently.
00:14:11.340 This morning I woke up, made a bad cup of home coffee,
00:14:14.600 which hurts.
00:14:14.920 Let's see how mine's doing.
00:14:15.720 Oh, which brings me to an official begging. 0.95
00:14:17.880 We have a big begging section right here 0.93
00:14:19.620 and I'm going to launch right in.
00:14:21.160 Yeah.
00:14:21.420 I want a Breville.
00:14:23.380 I want an espresso maker.
00:14:24.980 I don't expect them to send the fanciest,
00:14:27.240 what, $1,200 one that's huge.
00:14:29.120 Honey, I hardly have the counter space,
00:14:30.940 but it's been brought to my attention
00:14:32.760 that there's something, I'm going to look it up,
00:14:34.140 it's like a little mini miniature one and I need to find it okay I found it I found it what I want
00:14:41.520 is the Breville Bambino hold on it's so cute wait wait wait and what it does it's great because
00:14:50.060 doesn't grind the beans for you you're gonna have to grind them separately okay that's amazing
00:14:53.840 we've become the home shopping network
00:14:56.060 i know and what it does it's amazing because check this out save a big espresso flavor and
00:15:04.660 luxurious crema wait wait let me see it by the way espresso all serious value i'll do the ad
00:15:11.120 listen to this the bambino yeah i'm reading save a big espresso flavor and a luxurious crema based
00:15:16.920 top all from a slim machine designed to save maximum counter space ding ding ding i have
00:15:21.700 counter space majorly deficient in counter space engineered by the experts at breville you could
00:15:27.040 have taken that out whatever the point is we've got capitalize advanced brewing technology no did
00:15:32.880 they title caps it no okay good because that's a technique you know they act like it's a kind
00:15:38.260 of technology oh there they they're here they do it i want this thermo jet register i want this and
00:15:42.940 i'm begging for it and it's retailing at 350 i see that it's coming in a lot of different colors
00:15:48.140 No, it's not. It's coming in silver. That's fine. I want this.
00:15:51.360 Where the hell did you see what you perceived as color?
00:15:53.780 I scrolled to the bottom and they're advertising a grinder.
00:15:57.320 Right.
00:15:57.840 $200 for a grinder. Jesus Christ.
00:16:00.360 Now, here's what I'll say. Here's what I'll say.
00:16:02.840 The terror and the courage of them when they put their open reviews on the bottom of their product page on their website. It's bold.
00:16:10.420 how do you feel about the thrill and chill in the spine when I see that there are photos
00:16:18.560 attached to reviews well you're scared you're gonna see so like let's hear on like amazon or
00:16:22.820 something okay yeah you schooled out what did you say I said are you afraid you're gonna see
00:16:26.900 someone's genitals why do you get scared oh I love nine days ago sorry nine days ago we upgraded
00:16:32.660 to the Breville Bambino we absolutely love the machine the setup is easy with the crema
00:16:39.880 So, are you seeing pictures?
00:16:42.160 What are you on?
00:16:43.200 I'm sorry.
00:16:43.620 I'm on bravel.com.
00:16:44.280 I'm on williamsonoma.com forward slash bravel.
00:16:49.120 Okay, interesting.
00:16:50.100 So, you're in a different thing.
00:16:52.060 But here's what I'm talking about, Kate.
00:16:53.340 Are there pictures?
00:16:54.360 Okay, thank you.
00:16:55.120 Sorry.
00:16:55.200 Okay, there's a moment that happens.
00:16:56.620 You're distracted when you're on a website, it's fine.
00:16:58.500 But when you scroll down, okay, and suddenly you see someone's hideous interior, right?
00:17:02.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
00:17:03.180 Because in the end, our interiors are hideous, okay?
00:17:07.060 Yeah.
00:17:07.500 Just inherently.
00:17:08.140 like the second you take a photograph
00:17:09.960 I mean some aren't I guess
00:17:11.120 if you devote your life to it
00:17:13.660 but I mean like suddenly you're like
00:17:14.860 I'll see this photo and I'll go oh no
00:17:17.140 and there's a quality
00:17:19.740 of these photos that I can't tell at first
00:17:21.820 it's like a lot of times people
00:17:23.760 are moved to use photo evidence 0.94
00:17:25.540 when something's fucked up 0.84
00:17:26.820 so suddenly you'll see a piece of the part 0.91
00:17:29.520 that you saw above in the glorious ad
00:17:31.440 now you see it in someone's hand
00:17:33.480 and you just see 0.99
00:17:35.720 you know something fucked up 0.82
00:17:38.140 okay every once in a while you scroll down and it's a loving review with a photo but anyway it's 0.84
00:17:45.220 just it's like you see of course you know it's reduced to what it's like they're like i love
00:17:49.720 this espresso machine and then it's eclipsed by the cat box and like the scattered there you
00:17:54.440 it's like in the espresso machine well i'm talking about when they complain and they reveal the
00:17:59.600 product's flaws and you're just like well you live like an animal so you use your espresso
00:18:03.900 machine as a cat box and you're upset that it's not working so i wrote my makeup away and i
00:18:12.800 remember writing it down and knowing it was something we needed to talk about makeup away
00:18:16.460 i've realized i i'm in a crisis okay okay let's get you through it i think i want to be one of
00:18:25.700 these people that only cares about my work okay i thought you were you know maybe i already am
00:18:30.020 yeah okay i want to take it to a new level okay i i i want a massive personality shift
00:18:38.980 okay okay okay from the inside out okay i want to take my own skeleton of a personality i don't
00:18:47.160 mean that my personality is mere bones i mean i mean that overload personality is situated inside
00:18:53.200 me as firmly as a skeleton is i'm gonna grab by the rings i mean the ribs yeah again i want to
00:18:59.500 Throw it in the river.
00:19:00.340 So you want a new skeletal personality system.
00:19:03.440 Personality, yeah, I guess isn't the right word
00:19:05.140 because it's too outward facing.
00:19:06.240 It's too sun sign.
00:19:07.460 So you want a personality.
00:19:09.140 Personality is a confusing term.
00:19:11.060 Exactly, it's a wrong word.
00:19:12.140 You want to fundamentally shift who you are.
00:19:15.180 Is that what I'm hearing?
00:19:17.080 Your approach to life.
00:19:18.240 I mean, keep the soul.
00:19:19.860 Yeah, keep the soul in there.
00:19:20.820 You've got a great soul.
00:19:21.760 Keep the soul.
00:19:22.060 Keep the memories.
00:19:22.960 However, I'd like to be 15 feet away 1.00
00:19:24.920 from those damn memories. 1.00
00:19:26.220 Yeah. 1.00
00:19:26.520 Okay.
00:19:27.140 Yeah.
00:19:27.700 Not like I have so much trauma.
00:19:28.940 just mean like you know attachment and then yeah i want to clear it out
00:19:33.400 yeah you know i used to read about these these things or this thing where
00:19:38.760 it wasn't possession but it was like this idea that there's some people that instead of dying
00:19:45.560 and then a new person comes in it like a reincarnation that there's two incarnations
00:19:49.780 that happen in one body okay sequentially so the body doesn't die just new one comes in
00:19:55.060 whoa that's shocking i've never heard that yeah like they get two in one sequential i didn't know
00:20:02.020 that was possible sounds scary right sounds pretty scary i'm most i'm joking around age 60 the soul
00:20:09.720 leaves and a new one enters yes okay it's called something and a lot of people don't want to talk
00:20:17.880 about it they don't want they say grandma's had a change yeah yeah yeah grandma's not there
00:20:25.000 anymore remember i want to hear about new soul come to a strange world i can do what's that
00:20:33.060 it's a song but they was in an apple ad many years ago i want to hear more about your personality
00:20:41.160 your your center overhaul you ripping out your your old skeleton turning to self-help once again
00:20:47.120 But the way I am combing through my own libraries.
00:20:50.960 Oh, you know what I really want to do?
00:20:52.120 Read some Marion Woodman to you.
00:20:54.440 Okay.
00:20:55.180 Okay.
00:20:55.880 What's it called?
00:20:56.860 It's a Jungian text.
00:20:58.340 Marion Woodman.
00:20:58.720 Addiction to perfection.
00:21:00.360 And then. 0.99
00:21:00.980 The still unravished bride. 0.80
00:21:03.500 I knew you'd freak out for the subtitle.
00:21:05.480 I think I've brought it up before.
00:21:07.440 Do you want to hear, do you want to just, I'll open to a page and you'll hear marginalia.
00:21:12.280 Yeah, let's go.
00:21:13.680 There's one.
00:21:14.460 So there's a lot about food and whatever.
00:21:17.840 Oh, here we go, baby.
00:21:20.200 Here we go.
00:21:20.920 It's exactly what we were just talking about.
00:21:23.260 Okay, first of all, look at my various emphases.
00:21:26.020 Oh, yeah, that's good.
00:21:27.160 That's good.
00:21:27.700 Okay.
00:21:28.220 She's drawn a big exclamation point next to this.
00:21:31.160 All right, let's see.
00:21:32.540 There is, in fact, a criminal mentality at work.
00:21:35.600 If ice cream is forbidden,
00:21:37.420 then they will have one cone and hate themselves for the rest of the day.
00:21:41.880 Okay.
00:21:43.080 If chocolate macaroons are spilled on the supermarket shelf,
00:21:46.280 they'll have a handful okay wow if this this behavior is looked at carefully it is clear
00:21:50.740 that almost all the food they eat is stolen even from their own refrigerators oh okay whatever
00:21:58.660 this is a little this is exactly what i was hoping for i was hoping for a little more abstract but
00:22:02.740 let me just let me just let me just okay okay the craving to do the forbidden often comes from a
00:22:06.660 lifelong relationship with the negative mother okay as a archetype let me just try to find the
00:22:12.740 think there's a point where she says like god is like god becomes the muffin oh right here we go
00:22:17.780 the projection of the perfect was once on god when god quote died that perfection was often
00:22:24.700 projected onto the husband and now the terrible truth is that in many lives that projection has
00:22:30.200 been taken off the husband and put onto a muffin okay you ready yeah and then down further my next
00:22:40.420 highlight but what happens when these innate spiritual longings are not structured within
00:22:45.540 an interpersonal framework such as the church could offer the muffin cannot replace the divine
00:22:50.540 wafer nor can alcohol replace the divine spirit nor can starving replace a religious fast when
00:22:56.720 our animal and spiritual signals are confused bizarre behavior results the emptiness gnaws
00:23:02.280 and the wolf prowls until some kind of ritual is performed if it is a compulsive ritual it can
00:23:07.600 become nothing less than a hurricane
00:23:09.520 swirling its victim headlong into unconsciousness
00:23:11.700 the natural spiritual hunger if not fed by
00:23:13.520 the sacred is trapped in the demonic
00:23:14.960 there it is folks
00:23:16.980 not taking responsibility for your shadow
00:23:19.640 anyway
00:23:21.900 it's always a risk when you
00:23:25.040 turn to the text
00:23:26.580 when you just
00:23:29.520 decide to pull a
00:23:30.760 you know prepare for the episode
00:23:33.620 I guess find the correct passage
00:23:35.620 But still, you can tell there's something there.
00:23:37.800 Oh, there's definitely something there.
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00:26:30.080 and not the obvious boyfriend?
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00:27:24.760 I've turned the piano.
00:27:26.460 In what way?
00:27:27.800 So, you know, I can kind of play the piano.
00:27:30.540 Like I have some basic whatever and I'll sit down and turn the piano.
00:27:33.560 Huge reveal.
00:27:35.540 I can play all the scales.
00:27:36.800 I can, you know, form the chords.
00:27:38.220 Okay.
00:27:40.480 And I always sit down and just try to like figure it out myself a little bit.
00:27:45.720 Like that's sort of been the path.
00:27:47.420 A little bit of lessons when I was a kid.
00:27:48.760 And then I asked my dad, like, dad, like how do I form an A minor seven?
00:27:53.960 What is this?
00:27:54.500 You know what I mean?
00:27:54.840 How do you do the seventh again?
00:27:55.940 whatever i always forget it's like it's like this process by learning things like once every five
00:28:00.720 years like a new piece gets in um when i sit at the piano i go into a complete absorption state
00:28:08.380 as i try and learn you're absorbed in the actual activity in the in the action completely
00:28:15.300 whoa maybe there's a secondary thinking that can happen during it but it is complete absorption
00:28:21.280 and you know if I started seriously now I could play for the next 50 years absolutely so I
00:28:28.540 downloaded an app it always starts with that low key and it's working no and it's not and it's you
00:28:36.180 know you start with songs and and and I'm building on on the knowledge I have okay and I'm you know
00:28:43.360 obviously one day in and I'm already thinking about getting a full piano yeah people give those
00:28:49.360 away though they're given those they have those just they're around yeah they have those everywhere
00:28:54.240 can you imagine coming over and i play piano and you sing we sing my greatest fear a cocktail and
00:29:01.540 we sing of course screaming into the night a real piano party imagine that could be fun
00:29:07.520 i struggle of course with singing well it wouldn't be one of those settings where it's about you know
00:29:13.320 singing it's about showing off or not yeah it would be like pure ecstatic i could maybe i could
00:29:18.220 lose myself singing with you i think i think i could completely yeah it wouldn't be about
00:29:22.960 performance oh i know it'd be about the voice and it would be me stumbling along okay and like us
00:29:30.000 getting a little more you know what i started with you know i started with hello darkness my old
00:29:35.260 friend because that's what i'm sitting at my piano playing my parents piano just the first part
00:29:41.640 and i'll post video great um as we went the voice who was i was talking to someone 0.95
00:29:52.160 who was telling me that she has a youngian voice teacher can you fucking imagine
00:29:56.920 wait wait yeah sweetheart i'm ready yeah i know he's in new york i might need free the 0.93
00:30:04.400 and you know what he says first of all i love this listen to this i love this doesn't believe 0.93
00:30:10.280 vocal warm-ups he's like they're bullshit hell yeah and he goes like losing your voice it's 0.82
00:30:15.780 spiritual he's like if you're losing your voice it's not about your voice like yeah yeah i mean 0.96
00:30:21.940 meaning it's it's a he's like you're not complex it's a symptom i mean i don't know the details
00:30:26.580 this is like some details over dinner that absorbed quickly it's like yeah but i just know
00:30:32.040 that she said that he's like yeah you don't need to do vocal warm-ups and losing your voice is
00:30:36.500 about something else it's not like doing vocal warms it's going to prevent you from losing your
00:30:39.660 voice. Oh, interesting. I'm thinking about taking, I got a little freaked out because I have a
00:30:43.520 Pyramist for like when you do a bunch of shows, you know, to steam. But then I'm like, that thing
00:30:49.120 is plastic. Am I just like freebasing plastic? It kind of freaks me out. Dude, dude. I might not
00:30:58.120 take it to London because I'm scared, dude. I think it's got to be steams. It's got to be
00:31:03.700 steams in the shower nightly or well you know I was traveling shows with my canopy remember oh my
00:31:11.880 god of course I had my canopy in a suitcase and I was plugging it oh you know you know what I was
00:31:16.720 using too the Dr. Dennis Gross facial mask as my as my steamer I had it going beside my bed oh yeah
00:31:23.660 yeah he was using that I mean actually it's an interesting question is there some kind of steam
00:31:30.600 inhaler situation out there that is
00:31:32.760 you know pure steel
00:31:34.360 that's what I'm asking for a stainless steel
00:31:36.380 because I guess the idea is the steel would get too 0.72
00:31:38.480 hot you'd burn your freaking nose off
00:31:40.600 well glass I don't think 0.95
00:31:42.420 but that's not the part that's the concern
00:31:44.200 I think it's really the reservoir of the water
00:31:46.560 yeah I think I might
00:31:48.460 not even take it Jacqueline what about those things that
00:31:50.300 you stick the you know those like
00:31:52.440 travel humidifiers that
00:31:54.200 it's like you stick it in a water bottle or you stick it
00:31:56.520 in a glass of water yeah can that be real
00:31:58.740 yeah it's real
00:32:00.360 Okay.
00:32:01.180 I could get one of those.
00:32:01.940 The technology of generating steam.
00:32:03.660 But I would say, turn on the shower.
00:32:06.740 Turn on the London shower.
00:32:07.760 No, of course.
00:32:08.140 A shower.
00:32:09.620 Sure.
00:32:09.960 But I'm talking about like, if you really are needing.
00:32:13.400 Then I would say clean the Pyramist.
00:32:15.340 I can't remember.
00:32:16.100 Is the Pyramist the one that has capsules?
00:32:17.960 I have the capsules.
00:32:19.440 And it really feels good.
00:32:20.960 I mean, there were many times it deeply soothed me.
00:32:23.080 And I was doing it like twice a day.
00:32:24.580 I really needed to.
00:32:25.480 I was like waking up Pyramisting.
00:32:27.320 Pyramisting before a show.
00:32:28.260 For one, though, if you have the canopy going at all times in your room, then you're having a base layer of environment.
00:32:35.440 It's not going to dry you out so much that then you need to apply the acute fix.
00:32:38.780 I see.
00:32:39.660 I see.
00:32:40.860 Okay.
00:32:41.560 Okay.
00:32:42.300 Okay.
00:32:43.660 And you trust the cleanliness of the canopy.
00:32:46.360 I love the canopy. 0.99
00:32:48.040 I saw this woman being like, yeah, I throw my canopy filter out every week. 0.99
00:32:51.520 I was like, what? 1.00
00:32:52.320 That's crazy.
00:32:53.080 The whole point was that you don't have to do that.
00:32:55.180 Yeah. 1.00
00:32:55.820 That woman's sick. 1.00
00:32:58.260 oh you know what i saw goop x lima oh yeah serums and i saw it because you sent it to me 1.00
00:33:06.060 i freaked out i saw lima so the woman who invented lima in a goop store with a serum
00:33:11.820 and a moisturizer yeah they were in two bronze canisters she was talking about them and i said
00:33:16.900 i want those now you know what i gotta say i really appreciate it um someone from dr loretta
00:33:23.740 reached out okay they heard us this is next level i just want brands perk your ears okay
00:33:31.160 they heard us complaining about the problems with ferulic you know salami scented skincare and
00:33:39.200 they said you know hey you know we have a serum that has been shown to be as effective as those
00:33:44.860 kinds of formulations want to try it and that's where i say that's a listener we go send it on
00:33:51.280 through and we love the brand that's listening yeah dr loretta has been very good to the podcast
00:33:55.620 and very learned yeah very good to the podcast dr loretta is the advisor for do skin and that's
00:34:03.120 an exciting collab yeah collab to think about that that's significant huge wait can you kind
00:34:09.500 of see from here that the brow is more yeah there's more brow than usual a little bit but
00:34:16.000 it's not it's not overwhelming though are you familiar with my concept about doing your brows
00:34:19.860 from 15 feet away from the mirror no no okay oh that's what it was i wrote down makeup away
00:34:27.000 it's this concept i have of doing your makeup from like 20 feet away
00:34:30.020 or doing your makeup from the distance that you're going to be engaging with
00:34:35.160 the world okay so think of it it's like i think the model that everyone thinks is get as close
00:34:43.300 as you can with as right and find detail as possible with the biggest you know blow up mirror
00:34:48.180 and then you're going to do detail work, detail work, detail work
00:34:50.820 and you're going to do it perfect at that close
00:34:52.880 and then guess what, when you're 20 feet away
00:34:54.720 it's just going to come all together
00:34:56.040 but it's a different medium
00:34:58.040 yeah, so standing way
00:35:00.880 back from the mirror
00:35:01.820 when they're doing the blush
00:35:03.620 you think, what's the makeup for
00:35:06.200 walking down the street
00:35:08.180 clown makeup
00:35:09.640 I'm not sure but all I know 0.96
00:35:12.860 is when I used to try
00:35:14.720 to make the brow perfect really close up 0.96
00:35:16.660 yeah then i'd step back and it would look like shit yeah okay or it would look like whatever 0.70
00:35:22.140 so instead i would actually step like the real thing is i'd step like three feet away and i'd
00:35:27.300 sort of feather okay from there and shape and and that's that that's all i got on that imagining
00:35:34.280 walking toward you from 30 feet and then as you become closer you're revealed to look i mean
00:35:41.780 because that would just be about volume you would just be applying more right more volume
00:35:46.440 Would it be above volume?
00:35:48.920 Well, this is the big question.
00:35:50.680 I mean, it's more...
00:35:52.660 Not necessarily.
00:35:54.220 Like from far away,
00:35:55.980 if you've slathered on a single tone
00:35:59.060 across your face,
00:36:01.200 you may have flattened the face
00:36:03.980 from far away.
00:36:05.660 From far away, 1.00
00:36:06.780 do you really need your pores?
00:36:09.360 People are shading in
00:36:11.240 dark shadows, dark circles.
00:36:14.520 Adding them? 1.00
00:36:15.300 Because they see it on women. 0.99
00:36:16.200 And they're like, that was fucking cool. 0.99
00:36:17.940 Oh, really? 0.98
00:36:18.280 They're creating dark circles?
00:36:20.280 It's very, like, to me, it all, it's all like, to me, it's all this, like, sort of YouTube makeup tutorial generation that, like, learns by nine how to apply, like, makeup to a precision that is...
00:36:35.680 Like, funereal.
00:36:37.280 Yes.
00:36:37.760 Like, these nine-year-olds can dress a corpse.
00:36:40.780 Yes.
00:36:41.080 They can make a corpse ready to be viewed.
00:36:43.640 Yes.
00:36:44.540 Yes.
00:36:44.820 Then they can do like, they can make themselves look like, you know, Edward Norton or whatever.
00:36:51.060 You know, like they do these things.
00:36:52.940 Right.
00:36:53.100 Right.
00:36:53.500 It's like, it's like a complete, the face is a literal canvas now.
00:36:59.560 Yeah.
00:36:59.800 Yeah.
00:36:59.880 Right.
00:37:00.060 And it's like, I can, I can paint another face onto my face and not metaphorically.
00:37:04.640 I'm not a nine year old girl.
00:37:06.020 I'm Edward Norton.
00:37:07.760 Yeah.
00:37:08.320 And so then you go from that and you go, what are we doing here?
00:37:11.220 it kind of reminds me of when
00:37:13.320 I stopped really being
00:37:15.380 impressed by toned 1.00
00:37:17.280 fucking legs it's like 1.00
00:37:19.180 yeah if you put in the time on the 1.00
00:37:21.480 treadmill you can get those
00:37:23.200 they became
00:37:25.560 devalued to me
00:37:27.200 you know what's the tech is there
00:37:31.120 it's like just evidence of the labor
00:37:33.240 that's why being like extraordinarily
00:37:35.500 ripped is really embarrassing
00:37:37.000 that's why it's strange men who are so ripped
00:37:39.500 it's like highly like feminizes them in a way that's like almost interesting it's like the
00:37:44.860 preening it's like oh my god preparation the hours yeah the mirrors the oils of course oh yeah 0.94
00:37:52.220 oiling up their legs and tits yeah well remember remember the calf implants of 2006 oh wait it was 0.96
00:37:59.220 like it was like a fake muscle which is so interesting to implant a fake muscle yeah we 0.97
00:38:06.420 like implanting fake fat kind of has a it's like fat is just sort of it's like a different concept
00:38:14.560 to me to like suggest that you have built something like that's you're talking about
00:38:22.440 the effortlessness of not seeing the labor so to do a calf muscle is like to tell a tale of doing
00:38:30.020 calf lifts right right right yeah like to have looked like you put in the work at the gym
00:38:34.940 as a bodybuilder it's weird it's a durational lie yes
00:38:41.440 but you're still working out right yeah i haven't for a week and i really feel it
00:38:48.660 mood plummeted health plummeted my trainer was in the cayman islands can you imagine
00:38:54.500 no yeah i was like i miss you come back he's back i'm seeing him today wow a week everything
00:39:02.200 changes it's crazy you're a different person in a week your body's different in a week everything 0.75
00:39:06.100 changes in a week it's fucking crazy you could say it's liberating because you go oh all i need 0.86
00:39:10.700 is a week to change my life but in a week it just goes it all goes well the extent i'm gonna write 0.86
00:39:18.520 a book give me seven days i'll change your life well that's to me what every book like every book
00:39:30.280 No, what's funny is suggesting.
00:39:32.300 It's like finish it in seven.
00:39:34.140 Yeah.
00:39:34.580 No, right, right, right.
00:39:35.480 It's like, yeah, it's the entire industry.
00:39:38.680 And by the way, like the horror is like, you can't because it's all that application.
00:39:43.640 But do they apply it?
00:39:45.440 We know what we need.
00:39:47.600 Or do we?
00:39:48.440 I don't know.
00:39:49.000 I don't know.
00:39:50.140 I know what I need.
00:39:51.680 You're going for a whole new makeover of the interior.
00:39:54.420 I need to shed the interior.
00:39:56.300 Yeah.
00:39:57.300 I want to be clear.
00:39:58.060 What's the new person going to be like?
00:39:59.460 piece of glass you said they're gonna be career obsessed more no i mean it right right it's
00:40:05.740 what that was a sort of separate thing that was sort of about like giving over to being like
00:40:11.860 those characters in the beginning of movies whose values are out of whack and by the end they learn
00:40:17.540 whatever the opposite like you know what i'm talking about i'm always like i use a little 0.97
00:40:25.340 more a person act one wait what i'm always jealous of the act one asshole who's like 0.96
00:40:32.060 stomping through their life not going to the you know kids baseball game i'm like that's what i 0.98
00:40:38.060 want to be you want to be the deadbeat yeah i want to be like i guess i'm yearning to forget
00:40:45.280 to lose track of that that little girl was full of wonder where'd she go i'm like get her out
00:40:52.660 i want to have i want to fully transform into the the jaded uh success that then um
00:41:04.820 then it has to come back around to the other side right you want to be like
00:41:08.740 you want to be trying to remember yes her the messy girl yeah i think yeah i think i think it's
00:41:19.140 like, I've embodied or I've, uh, I've never forgotten. You know what I mean? Like, I've
00:41:24.880 never fully hit the wall to come back around the other side. Yeah. I want to forget. I
00:41:29.980 want to forget to remember again.
00:41:41.460 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield from The Girlfriends, the number one hit true crime show that puts
00:41:47.820 women right in the centre of their own stories. I'm back with more one-off interviews with some
00:41:54.180 truly kick-ass women on the Girlfriends Spotlight. I want to introduce you to Sylvia. I'm going to 1.00
00:42:01.740 climb this. And then there's Vaisaka. Let's see how we can stop killing and save lives.
00:42:09.560 Leila dared to ask the question. Is badness hereditary? And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.
00:42:15.860 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived,
00:42:19.000 she wouldn't have died on that fatal night.
00:42:21.940 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,
00:42:23.660 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.
00:42:26.680 I'm not too intimidated by her.
00:42:28.100 What are you talking about? 1.00
00:42:31.000 Listen to The Girlfriend Spotlight on the iHeartRadio app, 1.00
00:42:34.460 Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:42:41.340 Ever feel like you're being chased by the marriage police?
00:42:43.900 Welcome to Boys and Girls, the podcast where dating isn't dating.
00:42:49.200 It's a full-on love triathlon.
00:42:51.800 A morning what-if, an evening maybe, and a 3pm chai with a could-this-please-be-the-one.
00:42:58.700 Because in the arranged marriage universe, you're basically on a sushi conveyor belt.
00:43:02.800 And like raw fish, you've got a shelf life.
00:43:06.460 And the wild part? You're not just looking for someone you like.
00:43:09.820 You're casting for a mythical hero your entire family approves of.
00:43:13.340 a saint, a demigod, a unicorn.
00:43:16.500 I know because years ago I sacrificed myself
00:43:19.120 to this chaotic, soul-crushing tradition
00:43:21.320 hoping to find love the correct way.
00:43:24.300 Boys and Girls is our absurd, cringy, heartfelt ride 1.00
00:43:27.520 through the highs and lows of the Indian arranged marriage, 0.96
00:43:30.460 finally giving you the validation and healing you deserve.
00:43:34.740 Listen to Boys and Girls starting February 19th
00:43:37.460 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
00:43:39.880 or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:43:41.600 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.
00:43:45.920 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.
00:43:50.880 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune.
00:43:54.720 It was hard to wrap your head around.
00:43:56.060 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.
00:43:59.660 So no, I am not your guru.
00:44:03.460 And back then, I lied to my parents.
00:44:06.080 I lied to police.
00:44:07.360 I lied to everybody.
00:44:08.340 There were years, Ryder, where I could not say your name.
00:44:11.120 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,
00:44:14.020 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,
00:44:16.820 whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.
00:44:20.180 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods
00:44:23.080 and not the obvious boyfriend?
00:44:24.760 They have had this case for 30 years. 0.98
00:44:27.680 I'll teach you sons of **** to come around here and my wife. 0.97
00:44:30.720 Boom, boom. 0.99
00:44:32.040 This is The Red Weather.
00:44:35.040 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app,
00:44:37.520 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:44:41.120 The more you listen to your kids, the closer you'll be.
00:44:45.760 So we asked kids, what do you want your parents to hear?
00:44:49.460 I feel sometimes that I'm not listened to.
00:44:52.180 I would just want you to listen to me more often and evaluate situations with me and lead me towards success.
00:44:58.880 Listening is a form of love.
00:45:01.120 Find resources to help you support your kids and their emotional well-being at SoundItOutTogether.org.
00:45:07.320 That's SoundItOutTogether.org.
00:45:09.520 Brought to you by the Ad Council and Pivotal
00:45:11.820 I know it'll perk me up
00:45:18.360 Let me solve a problem for you
00:45:20.600 You know I love that
00:45:22.720 Here's a question for you
00:45:24.360 If you were me
00:45:25.760 So if I'm leaving
00:45:27.340 If I'm doing this big trip
00:45:29.020 I basically have a week to get everything that I might need
00:45:31.860 When are you doing your
00:45:34.140 I gotta go to Sephora to do kind of a makeup haul
00:45:36.600 Get a couple things I'm running low on
00:45:39.000 for the show i when are you going to the grove well that's the thing i go to the grove like 0.97
00:45:45.280 every night where the fuck are you get back to la we go to the grove together it'd be so fun 0.97
00:45:49.640 blue ribbon sushi at the grove with me when are you back five four three two 0.99
00:45:56.000 i think next week i think i don't have a plane ticket um i was thinking about hitting the grove
00:46:02.540 that's not a good enough problem i want something to go twice okay i don't know about a deeper so 0.99
00:46:06.940 So I roll in, I go, I don't need any of this shit. 0.98
00:46:09.140 And then I go home and I go, I need it. 0.99
00:46:11.520 Yeah, yeah.
00:46:12.140 I'm going to have to do two trips.
00:46:13.260 Then I go back.
00:46:14.420 But it just becomes a kind of pilgrimage of...
00:46:17.160 I told you, I think I said this on POOG already,
00:46:19.500 when I got the Benefit 24-hour brow gel, which I like,
00:46:23.020 and I bought it and it was in an empty box.
00:46:26.760 Okay, I talked about that.
00:46:27.700 Right, and I wondered why you didn't feel the weight.
00:46:29.580 Well, I thought something was off,
00:46:31.120 which is the most maddening part.
00:46:34.120 And you didn't listen.
00:46:34.900 I was like, something's weird about this.
00:46:36.000 and just took it up
00:46:36.940 to the register
00:46:37.540 paid for it full price
00:46:39.200 and what's going to happen
00:46:40.140 when I go
00:46:40.560 I'm going to bring
00:46:41.040 the empty box
00:46:41.580 I'm going to go
00:46:41.960 we've got a huge problem here
00:46:43.340 they're going to have
00:46:44.840 to get the manager over
00:46:45.700 it's going to be 0.99
00:46:46.080 a whole fucking thing 0.99
00:46:46.800 I'm going to have to 0.99
00:46:47.140 talk to the headquarters
00:46:48.160 you think they're not
00:46:48.700 going to believe you
00:46:49.400 I don't know
00:46:50.720 I don't know
00:46:51.520 I've got to believe me
00:46:53.300 I think they won't
00:46:53.840 believe you
00:46:54.440 on the third time
00:46:55.740 right right right
00:46:56.860 it'll go on my file
00:46:57.720 well I'm excited
00:47:04.280 to finish
00:47:04.700 the deepest breath
00:47:05.500 I was completely stunned.
00:47:11.700 I'm momming for Kate.
00:47:13.320 No, no, no.
00:47:16.980 No.
00:47:18.220 I'm momming for Kate the last 10 meters.
00:47:22.360 You knowing what meters are?
00:47:26.060 In the context of that sport?
00:47:29.460 Well, it's a big day.
00:47:30.940 I've got therapy.
00:47:32.580 My trainer's back from the Cayman Islands.
00:47:35.500 I am going to go shop for a wedding.
00:47:42.220 Oh, I have a wedding this weekend.
00:47:44.020 I have to drum up excitement to purchase clothing.
00:47:48.740 And I really find it challenging.
00:47:50.380 Of course.
00:47:51.460 What's it for?
00:47:53.900 How do I get inspired?
00:47:58.860 What's it about?
00:48:00.260 Yeah.
00:48:00.860 You know what I mean? 0.99
00:48:01.340 What the fuck is it? 0.99
00:48:03.540 I've got a wedding this weekend. 1.00
00:48:05.500 not like a friend, like a family friend, you know, that kind of, it's a different energy.
00:48:12.920 Yeah, totally.
00:48:14.100 I'm actually really excited to mingle with some of the adults.
00:48:16.660 It's sort of you going, oh, is that the, is that the adult? I mean, is that the uncle?
00:48:20.840 You go, oh, that's a, you know.
00:48:23.680 I'm really excited because my, my, my former gynecologist will be there.
00:48:28.140 Oh, really? Wait, shout out Dr.
00:48:30.500 Well, George. I don't know why I'm protecting his last name.
00:48:33.420 Oh, that's what it was. Shout out George.
00:48:34.660 i'm excited to see george yeah i mean he's excited
00:48:38.720 she's a former patient of mine oh what kind of doctor you guy know yeah well everyone's gonna
00:48:47.340 know only one of the best gynos in town oh here's a horrifying wait i have a quick horrifying story
00:48:53.020 how many women how many women at the wedding people at the wedding are george's girls
00:48:58.580 a lot including my mother
00:49:01.660 I think he's like 98 right
00:49:03.280 he's not
00:49:03.920 he's in his late 70s mid 70s
00:49:07.820 and he calls them George's girls
00:49:09.800 also going into the office
00:49:15.780 for an appointment
00:49:17.440 and what 0.66
00:49:19.220 not one of George's girls 0.88
00:49:21.000 it's disgusting sorry 0.70
00:49:23.060 oh my god 0.61
00:49:31.260 that would be awful i used to get off on calling him george like i'd say to the receptionist like
00:49:41.180 i want does george have anything open in the next couple weeks yeah as a jar you know i know suzanne
00:49:47.020 wait listen to this i have a horrifying quick horrifying gynecology story yeah my mom was
00:49:55.660 telling me she's like my mom i love my mom was telling me my mom's my mom loves her gynecologist
00:50:00.460 whatever this gynecologist was then retiring this gynecologist he just really really knew how to ask
00:50:10.400 a distracting
00:50:12.640 question as the cold speculum
00:50:14.540 went in, you know, I just
00:50:16.100 thinking about college
00:50:17.360 so what's it like being a comedian
00:50:22.640 and now we're approaching the cervix
00:50:28.560 wait, wait, wait
00:50:33.240 go ahead, tell me, tell me, I'm really sorry
00:50:35.260 this is horrifying, so my mom had this gynecologist, he was retiring
00:50:38.240 he's like, don't worry, I've got you covered
00:50:40.140 We're going to send you to this guy.
00:50:41.700 Oh, right, right. 0.99
00:50:42.280 It's who my wife goes to. 1.00
00:50:43.220 It's who my daughter goes to.
00:50:44.220 He is the best in the business, whatever.
00:50:46.280 My mom goes and has like a, just a meeting with him.
00:50:49.220 They don't even do an exam.
00:50:50.380 It's just like meeting.
00:50:54.680 Sitting across the desk.
00:50:56.460 So she meets him.
00:50:57.780 She's like, this guy's great.
00:50:59.960 Wonderful. 1.00
00:51:01.280 A couple months later, class action lawsuit against this motherfucker. 1.00
00:51:07.440 No. 1.00
00:51:07.600 He's been, like, sexually assaulting women for, like, 4,000 years.
00:51:12.240 No.
00:51:12.860 And.
00:51:13.700 Now, why the hell did George recommend him?
00:51:15.800 George did not recommend him.
00:51:17.300 Someone else recommended him.
00:51:18.740 Oh, okay.
00:51:19.900 Sorry, George.
00:51:20.860 Yeah, careful. 0.97
00:51:22.260 But can you fucking believe he was, like, the toast of the town? 0.98
00:51:25.780 Meanwhile, he's, like, glovelessly finger-blasting people. 0.99
00:51:29.120 Like, I don't know what was going on.
00:51:30.860 But here's what's really crazy, too.
00:51:33.060 My mom got a check because there was such a huge class-action lawsuit.
00:51:36.940 No.
00:51:37.040 That everyone would ever see him.
00:51:38.620 For like $19 or $200?
00:51:41.640 No, it was like $1,100.
00:51:43.600 Okay, wow.
00:51:44.800 For once, it's meaningful.
00:51:46.880 She never went to him.
00:51:47.880 Thank God.
00:51:48.900 Physically, just had a chat across the desk.
00:51:51.360 Can you believe it? 1.00
00:51:52.200 And that's the thing about these motherfuckers. 1.00
00:51:53.740 I mean, they're right. 1.00
00:51:54.980 And if you really want to,
00:51:57.560 like I'm talking about, 0.99
00:51:59.140 molest and abuse women for years, 0.98
00:52:01.660 all you have to do is go through medical school, 0.98
00:52:03.600 be first in your class, 0.98
00:52:04.640 gain the respect and trust of all of your colleagues and then it's you're fucking in 0.94
00:52:10.480 well the issue though is is it's like yeah i think that has to be 0.98
00:52:20.400 they don't all want it they don't know you know they don't all want it gloved and
00:52:26.260 and in an office that's the problem like
00:52:28.140 it's not that won't that won't do it does it for some for every psychopath you know Larry Nassar 0.96
00:52:37.580 right well yeah it's like his fucking whole thing is a brilliant grit it was a brilliant scheme he'd 0.97
00:52:42.680 be like I'm gonna talk to the parents through the fucking exam wall the whole time right these 1.00
00:52:47.100 fuckers firing squad for them all okay gotta go gonna go make an omelet love you firing squad 1.00
00:52:54.000 except we all know 1.00
00:52:54.920 we're shooting him. 0.99
00:52:56.580 Because the firing squad 1.00
00:52:57.860 is the
00:52:58.280 is
00:52:59.080 10 guys with guns
00:53:02.300 and no one knows
00:53:03.000 who
00:53:03.180 whose bullet landed.
00:53:04.680 Right, right, right.
00:53:05.560 This would be
00:53:06.180 firing squad 0.98
00:53:08.240 every bullet. 0.80
00:53:09.740 Well, what it should be
00:53:10.400 is that
00:53:10.720 you take one beam
00:53:12.480 you get one shot
00:53:13.160 boom
00:53:13.460 it's the first one
00:53:14.160 he's screaming
00:53:14.620 and everyone just goes down.
00:53:16.980 And no one knows
00:53:17.740 who killed him
00:53:18.340 you just draw us
00:53:20.320 for the final blow.
00:53:24.820 Yeah.
00:53:26.040 Imagine being on the firing squad, like, back in the day.
00:53:30.880 I don't know, in France.
00:53:32.640 Okay.
00:53:33.240 And you're like, you know, it's you. 1.00
00:53:35.240 You know, you nailed it because, you know, the other guys are shit. 1.00
00:53:38.960 Yeah. 1.00
00:53:39.380 Yeah.
00:53:39.940 Although some of them probably, I'm just realizing, tried not to hit.
00:53:43.120 Some of them had a relationship with God and probably aimed for them.
00:53:46.240 They were like, I don't want to kill.
00:53:48.540 Okay.
00:53:48.740 I truly have to leave right now.
00:53:49.940 I love you.
00:53:50.360 All right.
00:53:51.220 Love you.
00:53:51.600 Bye.
00:53:51.980 Bye.
00:53:54.000 that was poog if you enjoyed poog please subscribe rate and review if not we will press charges
00:54:07.140 then she says have you seen a photo of my son and i'm like who is this person welcome to the
00:54:18.040 boys and girls podcast arranged marriage is basically a reality show and you're auditioning
00:54:23.360 for your soulmate and who's judging only your entire family i sacrificed myself to this ancient
00:54:29.760 tradition hoping to find love the right way and instead i found chaos comedy and a lot of cringe
00:54:36.480 listen to boys and girls starting february 19th on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever
00:54:41.660 you get your podcast when you feel uncomfortable what do you put on biggie you put on biggie when
00:54:47.640 you feel uncomfortable because i want to get confident this is dj hester prince music is
00:54:51.340 therapy a new podcast from me a dj and licensed therapist 12 months 12 areas of your life money
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00:55:05.280 listen to dj hester prince music is therapy on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever
00:55:11.600 you get your podcasts this is rider strong and i have a new podcast called the red weather
00:55:16.500 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune.
00:55:20.820 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.
00:55:24.660 No, I am not your guru.
00:55:28.280 Back then, I lied to everybody.
00:55:30.600 They have had this case for 30 years.
00:55:33.540 I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth.
00:55:37.320 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:55:43.540 You know Roald Dahl.
00:55:44.780 he thought up Willy Wonka and the BFG.
00:55:47.660 But did you know he was a spy?
00:55:49.940 In the new podcast, The Secret World of Roald Dahl,
00:55:52.860 I'll tell you that story and much, much more.
00:55:55.720 What?
00:55:56.620 You probably won't believe it either.
00:55:58.340 Was this before he wrote his stories?
00:56:00.060 It must have been.
00:56:01.420 Okay, I don't think that's true.
00:56:03.460 I'm telling you, I was a spy.
00:56:06.320 Listen to The Secret World of Roald Dahl
00:56:08.300 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
00:56:10.980 or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:56:12.340 This is an iHeart Podcast.
00:56:15.740 Guaranteed human.