Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - High Octane Poog

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00:01:34.820 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:01:36.280 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:01:37.380 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

00:01:42.100 Two untameable intellects.

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00:01:49.220 Today's topic, loosely speaking, waterline, palette, cherry.

00:01:55.300 hit him with the high octane poog hit him with the high hit him with the high octane poog wait 0.68

00:02:08.100 one two three hit him with the high octane poog hit him with the high octane poog hit him with 0.92

00:02:20.420 is there a delay or can you harmonize wait is there a delay or are you were you actually singing

00:02:25.940 that out of sync with me no i was right on sync with you but well at first there was kind of a

00:02:31.540 negotiation of rhythm i was trying like so to me let me do it once without you okay okay so i was

00:02:37.040 going so what i caught you eventually when i caught to your rhythm was uh hit him with the

00:02:41.680 high octane wait wait hit him with the high octane poog hit him with the high no hit him with the 0.75

00:02:47.040 octane poog hit him with the high octane poog hit him with the high hit him with the high hit him 0.91

00:02:52.240 with the high octane poog hit him with the high octane poog so are we hit him with the high octane 0.98

00:03:00.980 poog hit him with a high octane so we're we're in sync right well i don't know shit just clap 0.97

00:03:07.940 how do we tell because you were way off no we're never in sync because there's inherently a delay 0.96

00:03:11.960 okay okay sorry okay so so we're back okay i have a few things to say i have things to say one

00:03:16.220 the reason i look like a 1800s uh common toot you look gorgeous i took a picture of you

00:03:25.680 how about that i almost said fixture fixture is a fictional image that

00:03:31.000 that you take a picture but it's right which picture isn't a fixture is the question well

00:03:36.120 guess what all pictures are fixtures and that's why they were instagram i you know what you know

00:03:40.840 what i always say about instagram you know what i always say it's gonna be yeah it's gonna no people

00:03:45.360 here's what's crazy about instagram people post their lives to look perfect but they're not

00:03:50.380 perfect they're actually they're actually not and it's creating this epidemic where we think

00:03:56.100 people have these perfect lives because that's all they're presenting and we feel bad about

00:04:01.280 ourselves and yeah it's just contribute to everything and then you know you start oh the

00:04:04.900 perfect kids the perfect dog the perfect perfect granola the perfect but listen so i've actually

00:04:09.840 i so i relapsed hardcore on social media i've been scrolling and now we're back now we're back

00:04:14.440 for real and yet yesterday was a day when i was like i felt like i had a i still want to explain

00:04:19.840 why i look like common toot go on i felt like i had a straw into a bottle of gin and my day was

00:04:25.020 destroyed because i was so like i was using social media yesterday i was using it like i i had work

00:04:33.000 i had work to do i had a show and i and i could not i was just it was it was really dark and i

00:04:40.600 was like all right you got to get back I actually had a dark you got to get back off okay I just

00:04:44.560 want to make a couple notes I actually had a really dark experience with some cookies last

00:04:48.280 night and um and where okay I got these three different boxes of cookies different flavors

00:04:53.600 of sort of a similar kind you know whatever it's this non-sugar thing and I'm always hunting for

00:05:00.540 the way to have it all and um yeah and I'm pretty these are pretty good and you know what it is it's

00:05:06.240 that catalina is it catalina yeah it's that catalina brand it's sort of questionable they

00:05:10.300 have the keto cereals whatever but i got their cookies oh i've once got the cereal yeah yeah

00:05:15.100 yeah i got the cookies there's one that's like an oreo there's one that's like a vanilla cream

00:05:18.960 and there's one that's sort of a peanut butter thing now for some reason the peanut butter one

00:05:22.520 disgusts me okay and so we got down to the point where those were the only boxes left

00:05:26.240 and i have and i'm like i hate these yeah stop eating them okay if only i proceeded to do

00:05:33.540 three more boxes okay and so as a result i eat them and and and there's a there's a distinct

00:05:40.520 pleasure in in the way that i'm not enjoying you're angry at them okay yeah so i'm going i'm

00:05:45.340 like okay and i'm like ew ew ew okay and i'm like i'm like i hate it i hate it i hate it with

00:05:52.480 everybody but here's the thing the texture remains perfect because it's the same texture as a

00:05:57.500 delicious oreo exactly and so i am simultaneously taking in pleasure and pain i guess right or

00:06:06.340 pleasure and disgust in in the exact same moment and the reason i look like a common toot and and

00:06:13.660 i i i want to claim the word toot because i think it's darling and i've been saying it for years

00:06:18.500 i've never heard you no one says it it's mine mine alone okay i created it okay frosty no thanks

00:06:26.480 toot is adorable prostitute oh got it got it okay so now i understand i didn't know what you were

00:06:34.400 saying you know in the old sense okay in the classic sense so so explain it's because last 0.67

00:06:41.520 night's makeup now last night's makeup from a show okay the mascara i have a little stain from

00:06:46.580 last night's show i woke up and i was like god you look gorgeous and what is it no the romance

00:06:50.660 It's the slay.

00:06:51.940 I couldn't take all the makeup off the waterline.

00:06:55.900 Yes, I woke up.

00:06:57.680 Wait, do you?

00:06:58.280 Oh, this is huge.

00:06:59.540 Do you line the waterline?

00:07:00.660 And I mean the waterline.

00:07:02.400 You just mean the line.

00:07:03.240 I don't know why I said waterline.

00:07:05.300 So in high school, there was an eyeliner.

00:07:09.620 Lancome made it.

00:07:10.380 I think it was called black charcoal or something.

00:07:12.300 It was the eyeliner.

00:07:13.940 Okay.

00:07:14.280 And I would wear that and I would waterline it.

00:07:18.600 Can you imagine?

00:07:19.440 well and it would never come off yeah and it was no let's be very clear because people

00:07:25.200 might not even be familiar with the concept because i feel like it's so fallen out of fashion

00:07:30.480 to be clear so the waterline is the pink edge that's flushed to your eyeball

00:07:36.400 it's literally a mucous membrane folks oh yeah i mean it's it's wet you don't it is not yeah

00:07:43.340 it's not skin it is it is eyelid bless you i say yeah and it's i feel like it's kind of just i mean

00:07:50.920 i guess technically there's one on the top but the bottom is where you can really usually access

00:07:54.300 people do the top so if you pull the skin down slightly almost as if to open the eyelid there

00:08:00.980 it's revealed i remember the first time going wait people are lining that i know i know and

00:08:07.740 going holy shit i didn't even know you could touch that area and then going in do you remember how

00:08:12.940 they got us off it no eyes look smaller oh right classic yeah because the the it makes your eyes 0.99

00:08:21.760 my gorgeous friend used to do it in high school she has like such huge eyes that she could kind 0.98

00:08:26.300 of get away with it she was recession proof the wealth of her of her eyes eyes you know like

00:08:33.160 like it was so big that she could she could lose a little the unthinkable okay you know 1.00

00:08:38.140 horizontal stripes. Oh, of course. Are you familiar with like the Breton striped shirt?

00:08:46.660 No. What's that? Okay. You know, I always, you know. What are you drinking? What's that can?

00:08:51.300 Sorry, a can has come into frame. Oh, it's a Celsius. We're back. That's why it's high octane

00:08:55.660 pougue. You're doing a 930 a.m. Celsius. Wow. Also, what's on your hand? What ring are you

00:09:02.080 what's going on oh literally what i'm i'm head to toe paul monroe this is literally fairy works

00:09:08.660 this is a paul monroe if you follow einstein's underscore new york i visited as we know from

00:09:13.300 last week greer linkedin archives museum another essential follow and managed to procure a paul

00:09:20.520 monroe jewelry piece amazing cool i can't even because my screen's a little fuzzy but anyway he

00:09:25.500 told me it houses a thousand orbs and it's it's clear i believe it wow amazing that it does so

00:09:31.320 it's for strength and everything well i'm experimenting with a new ilia i'm obsessed

00:09:35.500 with ilia as we know and i and the the the hydrating the tinted hydrating every week you

00:09:42.840 break the news that you're loving ilia unsponsored unsponsored the tinted hydrating lip balms i can't

00:09:49.820 get enough and this is a different color called memoir which is a little more muted anyway the

00:09:53.980 point is memoir it's called memoir wow wait what were you saying i cut you off wildly do you use

00:10:02.260 every object as a lip blotter because i do oh you know i actually piece of cardboard i just found

00:10:07.500 i lip blotted i'm blotting my lip i wore lipstick i always wear lipstick on stage really and i was

00:10:11.780 i blotted my red lips against like my you know piece of paper i was writing ideas down and

00:10:16.920 everything oh and it was set list with a with a set list with a big yeah oh it's real it's really

00:10:23.360 real oh god there's so much to talk about wait i like took you off course but i really want to

00:10:27.880 talk about my massage there's just a lot i know i'm soaring all right let me just make a note so

00:10:32.140 we don't forget okay i'm writing down all right my dark experience with cookies what was your

00:10:36.740 thing about stripes stripes oh so so every six and a half months i find myself googling something

00:10:43.120 like classic fashion pieces you know the classic trench oh okay they're like they're the wool coat

00:10:50.740 um you know of course the the white button down they they there's these items that they always

00:10:57.960 you know the little black dress or six of them the idea is you buy a celine trench for twenty

00:11:02.780 five hundred dollars and you wear it forever or whatever yeah you wear yes yes okay in the

00:11:07.800 disposable fashion etc and so i have these fantasies of sort of having these classic items

00:11:12.160 because i constantly find myself with nothing to wear the uniform really i continue to so i have

00:11:19.240 been the uniform really is so freeing but then i right so well we'll talk uniform in a minute and

00:11:25.680 then and then and then as i'm searching these lists i'm tired of the old the same old same old

00:11:30.900 i'm looking for a list that says something new and one of them's like the breton okay the breton

00:11:36.220 whenever you slip into french it's incredible little shirt you can kind of picture audrey

00:11:42.860 heppard in it like a boat neck but a true boat okay because it's literally almost a boating

00:11:47.240 shirt i think okay okay a feminine okay picture a white stream boat neck shirt okay with dark

00:11:53.500 navy stripes going across it oh i can picture it i can picture it all right and i thought that was

00:11:59.520 a shock to hear that that was a sort of sort of being elevated as this classic fashion item

00:12:04.340 because to me it's so um i don't like specific to a certain look like it's to me it's like to

00:12:10.920 me a trench coat is like truly beautiful could accompany any yeah style perhaps yeah right

00:12:17.100 from the most femme whatever to the most whatever right breton you know if you're not audrey

00:12:25.920 good luck sailing through whatever good luck yeah if you don't have a 13 inch waist and endless 0.99

00:12:34.000 money from mgm good luck her waist it was like a coke can you know it was yeah yeah yeah two fingers 0.99

00:12:40.780 right around and you had her you had her by the balls uh all right so so so so i need to re-watch 0.95

00:12:48.780 my fair lady i don't know why i've developed this i developed a hostility toward audrey heppard 0.96

00:12:53.040 solely because of the proliferation of her image on shitty posters that were pushed on that are 0.95

00:12:59.260 advertised on hollywood boulevard and every goddamn airport yeah it's like so that for me 0.96

00:13:04.700 became conflated with her for me it was the is it was two things there's another coffee table book 0.95

00:13:09.820 about her elegance i know okay and then second to another um it's similar like you know these

00:13:15.400 things he's like time is it time magazine i think it might be like time magazine you know those like

00:13:20.180 magazines that are like extra thick i don't know they're more like a three-month-er they're like

00:13:24.880 those specialty ones yeah and it's literally like another examination of the camelot years of the

00:13:29.960 kennedys yeah by the way though i will say my father like they're at the supermarket so i know

00:13:36.000 exactly what you're talking about and people with with the audrey poster okay and sort of young

00:13:40.040 girls sort of whatever however then like my father got a beautiful print of literally breakfast at

00:13:46.560 tiffany's audrey heppard like the very thing that's been bastardized yeah had it framed and

00:13:51.540 hung it in in the den oh my god it actually restored it for me okay good do you um you know

00:13:56.640 what i mean everyone's always get that no i get it like the actual thing no i know that's what

00:14:00.860 that's exactly what i'm speaking to is that i'm now i feel like i'm bristling toward audrey

00:14:05.760 Hepburn not out of any kind of actual disdain for her work as an actress but out of the way her 0.95

00:14:12.220 image has been insisted upon for four million years and I me as a hag and a hog like if I'm 0.82

00:14:18.240 hanging it there well there's just yeah it was a signal to others that you had like I feel like

00:14:23.400 like as a college gal it was almost like this signal to others that you had a sense of it was

00:14:27.480 like I'm not a slut but I enjoy the company of men do you know what I mean there's some things

00:14:33.180 Cause I feel like it used to always be like Audrey Hepburn.

00:14:35.800 It was like Audrey or Marilyn.

00:14:38.060 I mean,

00:14:38.500 the answer is Marilyn forever,

00:14:40.580 but yeah,

00:14:42.040 but we'll remember in Mad Men.

00:14:44.980 I know you remember in Mad Men.

00:14:46.620 Oh,

00:14:47.120 of course.

00:14:47.560 You know,

00:14:48.000 it was this,

00:14:48.620 are you,

00:14:49.160 that's,

00:14:49.720 that's why I'm saying that.

00:14:50.760 Are you a Marilyn or was it Marilyn or Audrey in Mad Men?

00:14:54.200 Was that what it was?

00:14:54.740 That's what it was.

00:14:55.620 I'm trying to think if there was someone and they were talking about Joan.

00:14:59.460 Marilyn,

00:15:00.240 Audrey,

00:15:00.800 Marilyn. 0.80

00:15:01.100 Joan's a Marilyn. 0.95

00:15:01.960 Oh my God.

00:15:03.180 I got a rewatch.

00:15:03.900 It's time.

00:15:04.760 It's really time for me to go back.

00:15:07.380 So uniform, you were saying.

00:15:09.280 Oh, well, because.

00:15:10.300 And the ilia.

00:15:10.620 I mean, I just, I've been soaring.

00:15:12.060 Just feeling because, you know, there is something exciting about kind of going,

00:15:16.800 I'm going to stick to this brand for a minute and kind of see what they have to offer me.

00:15:20.040 Because I, you and I, and because of the glorious treasures of Pug, we are sent items, right?

00:15:25.360 And so, you know, you start to mix and match.

00:15:28.420 And I really want to, anyway, I just.

00:15:30.760 Clothing items?

00:15:31.760 No, no, like products.

00:15:33.180 products and holding out on me and so to commit to a single line is exciting well no i thought

00:15:38.320 you were talking about i thought you were talking about a uniform like oh yeah clothing wise no

00:15:42.280 there's nothing well i you know love clothes you know i like to to dress up what have you

00:15:49.600 but there is something really liberating about just being like every day i'm gonna wear jeans

00:15:54.660 and a brandy mill full tank top or something like it just oh well i continue to feel that when it

00:16:01.320 comes down to it you know i feel the most myself most unobstructed sense of self in jeans wow and 0.94

00:16:11.120 a fucking t-shirt and i'm not even happy about it okay like you know what i mean now for whatever 0.93

00:16:18.900 reason that just does something i just i'm relaxed there are other things i like you know what i was 0.98

00:16:23.900 in high school i was big on a pencil skirt and i wouldn't mind getting back into it oh can you

00:16:28.620 believe i mean i can i think you would look amazing in a pencil skirt oh yeah god the the

00:16:34.520 introduction of sort of as a teen sort of coming into knowledge of different shapes i always got

00:16:39.700 scared or still have resistant toward you think of like no you know no your colors no your fabrics

00:16:44.020 or whatever like no you know like what colors work on you what that always felt restrictive

00:16:48.800 or you loved it overwhelming to me and to this day i'm not sure like all no like like felt like

00:16:53.420 math it felt like a like math and i was excluded entirely like i know when it comes to reds

00:16:58.600 that i like a blue red but i don't know but that's kind of all i know it stops there orange

00:17:04.400 red or something or a pink red oh here's something i want to get into eyeshadow i think it's time

00:17:09.660 there it is i saw your eyes light up um last week when i mentioned the chanel liquid eye

00:17:14.740 eyeliner or eyeshadow we didn't discuss it but i saw your eyes well i'm like i need to get a

00:17:20.760 couple i don't have good eye brushes right so i'm like i need a palette i need to start getting

00:17:27.200 into eyeshadow i think i think it's time i can never decide the palette gives me joy or not

00:17:31.740 i want browns i think the palette brings joy i want because doesn't i don't own it but i think

00:17:37.420 charlotte tilbury calling all reps for charlotte tilbury make these little palettes where it's

00:17:42.120 like this goes on your eye then this goes on the cheek and this and it's like almost paint by

00:17:45.940 numbers which that is pleasing because no well pleasing in terms of that all the colors are

00:17:54.120 relating to each other in a way that you're not slapping something on over here like going like

00:17:58.480 well that's like pink so it goes on my cheek and then and then flying over to a complete different

00:18:02.920 thing and like they're all you know conflicting in ways you can't imagine yeah so there's but

00:18:08.920 the payment number is sort of pleasing it almost reminds me of like like a little girl's toy like

00:18:13.640 it would come like that or something yes there's something though like something infantilizing

00:18:17.720 about it in a way that i don't like but it also sounds fun and i think i i need that guidance

00:18:22.560 because i don't do eyeshadows and it really is all in the brush that's and that's what people

00:18:27.420 tell you that is that true or do you want to be true no i think it's true i don't know well there

00:18:33.020 is the idea that it can't all be in the brush but the brush is key i think oh i mean god i i don't

00:18:40.320 know it's the romance to me there's nothing i'd rather spend money on brushes than the makeup

00:18:45.320 itself you know and it does feel like if you're using a nice brush no that's smart no go to the

00:18:50.020 drugstore you know what i always wanted you know i always wanted god and yet could not find a use

00:18:54.680 for the kind of chubby short super thick brush that sits almost on on the vanity like oh yeah

00:19:04.520 of course i guess it's for like some kind of all over dusting is it like short yeah yeah oh yeah 0.95

00:19:10.280 yeah that is like well i dream where the fuck is my vanity and i know one day i'll get it one day 0.92

00:19:16.800 i'll get it i had a vanity basically as a as a teen girl a little wicker number with um 0.95

00:19:21.240 oh with a mirror and it was pure ecstasy it was i think it's still there i think i gotta try to

00:19:26.780 try to procure that i recently bought a maybelline um oh i buy maybelline palettes all the time oh

00:19:34.120 well this was a this was a um not to sound uh what's the word vulgar but an actress uh a oh

00:19:44.600 quite high level actress my complimented her on her lip color she pulls out maybelline i said 0.76

00:19:49.660 are you fucking kidding me and i of course immediately ran at full speed to cvs and

00:19:55.420 it's like there are these like long lasting crayons yeah yeah i mean if you know and the 0.99

00:20:01.720 color how to do your makeup yeah you know how to do your makeup let's get real folks you can use

00:20:06.420 anything god damn okay that's not the truth i don't know what is i mean it just is you can use

00:20:13.780 your fingers and a palette can last a lifetime palettes though yeah i don't love there's nowhere 0.75

00:20:20.980 to put them inside of the makeup organizer that really truly works and you want to know something

00:20:27.900 really hard that happened to me yeah i spent i bought a big ticket nars eyeshadow palette that's 0.95

00:20:34.460 like quite large okay it has a lot of colors crumbled the fucking no shockingly did not crumble 0.91

00:20:41.320 i've traveled with it several times the top came off oh wow that's the mirror i think i did i drop 0.92

00:20:47.880 it no i didn't drop it it just somehow like fell away though let's take a minute okay if you're 0.62

00:20:53.340 working with a palette are you really working with it on the subway as i those are vagina mirrors as 0.89

00:20:57.980 we all know oh right oh right right well they all got it was always you know take a little um 0.58

00:21:02.880 compact mirror yeah it's very particular 70s like compact mirror i imagine in my head take a look

00:21:11.260 yeah don't be afraid don't be afraid but every i've never not used i mean that's what those are

00:21:18.660 palette mirror to explore various it's like the it's like the back massager for the women in the

00:21:22.380 50s it's like all mirrors on the back of palettes are just vagina mirrors that were that we're not 0.68

00:21:27.160 allowed to call them what they are it was the only way they had a chance at seeing it they certainly 0.65

00:21:31.800 weren't allowed to bend over in front of a full length actually another genius moment in mad men

00:21:38.040 i think probably in the first episode joan talking to peggy go home put a paper bag over 0.72

00:21:42.620 your face strip down completely naked and assess what are my benefits and then remember she goes 1.00

00:21:48.260 those you know those little ankles could really sing like if you get a pair of like i bet those 0.84

00:21:54.100 ankles could really sing those little ankles oh my god one of the most brilliant performances

00:21:58.180 i mean the actual in that show will never will never recover and yeah it's it's it's just stunning

00:22:05.300 this is writer strong and i have a new podcast called the red weather it was many and many a

00:22:13.440 year ago in a kingdom by the sea in 1995 my neighbor and a trainer disappeared from a commune

00:22:20.160 it was hard to wrap your head around it was nature and trees and praying and drugs no i am not your

00:22:27.160 guru and back then i lied to my parents i lied to police i lied to everybody there were years

00:22:34.800 writer where I could not say your name.

00:22:36.840 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,

00:22:39.500 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,

00:22:42.320 whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.

00:22:45.680 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods

00:22:48.580 and not the obvious boyfriend?

00:22:50.260 They have had this case for 30 years. 1.00

00:22:53.180 I'll teach you sons of bitches to come around here and my wife. 1.00

00:22:56.240 Boom, boom. 1.00

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00:23:42.360 The palettes.

00:23:43.640 Don't leave palettes yet. I have a few things

00:23:45.180 to say. One, can a

00:23:47.200 palette hold

00:23:49.360 both iridescent

00:23:51.360 and matte products

00:23:53.320 successfully? Can it? Yes, I do think

00:23:55.240 that I can. My NARS,

00:23:56.900 I'm going back to... You don't think the iridescence

00:23:59.520 flies over into the matte and you end up 0.90

00:24:01.340 sparkly everywhere oh fuck well that's what i'm talking about is that why my nars palette has 0.78

00:24:06.500 worked is because the top is been ripped off cruelly in the night and therefore the colors 0.95

00:24:10.560 are separated by open air so do you see what i'm saying like now it's just a now it's just a panel

00:24:17.200 sails across the surface of an open topped palette clearing clearing it iridescence it's like you

00:24:23.720 know in the the toppings at a froyo store there's always you know oh a little nut lying between the

00:24:30.860 too oh of course i would live in fear if i had an allergy like you remember when tasty delight

00:24:35.420 swept the city as a result of sex in the city absolutely and i was completely in that i was

00:24:40.680 swept up in that as well i will say that i recently had for the first time in years pink berry and i

00:24:47.880 was on all fours moaning i could not believe i could not believe and by the way i felt so i was

00:24:56.600 laughing is our memory i know i know so i i used to eat a lot of pink berry in i guess high school

00:25:03.560 and i haven't had it in years and it was the after school rush recently i was working with

00:25:09.360 with a friend and it was like you know what i'm gonna run out and get us a treat because we've

00:25:12.560 been working like dogs and i go guess what i'm gonna get pink berry right and so i drive it

00:25:19.340 felt rogue to to almost reintroduce it like they like almost like they say what is it seven years

00:25:24.540 ago absolutely and it was 3 30 and so me being the person over at the after school rush it's

00:25:30.460 gonna be tough so i order online to go pick it up i pull into the parking lot and i am devastated

00:25:36.740 there are maybe two teens in there and i thought no i because i was still locked in the past i

00:25:42.360 thought well there's gonna be a line out the door at the fidget spinner store there's exactly it's

00:25:46.700 after school you know and even that the romance of the after school snack suddenly where are my

00:25:52.140 daughters okay i'm thinking maybe i might freeze my eggs in december just for fun yeah i hear it's

00:25:57.780 a blast well i've because i've barely looked into it and i understand you know oh god you know but

00:26:04.680 there is something there is something don't shop kate no exactly adopt don't shop no totally totally

00:26:12.220 don't shop your own eggs but it's a little bit like you know what i'm gonna do a joke do as you

00:26:16.580 please have a little fun that my grandmother couldn't you know what i mean like there's 0.98

00:26:20.100 something about kind of being like i'm gonna freeze these fuckers and who cares they'll go 0.98

00:26:23.660 in the trash if i want them to a little modern yeah it's a little like it's kind of it's a 0.99

00:26:28.060 little fun little tip of the hat to the scientists in the corner and go you know what i'll give it a

00:26:32.360 try my even mom is here boys even my mom i mentioned it to my mom and even she was like

00:26:37.860 kind of scandalized she was like a baby from a frozen egg she said that to me she was like

00:26:43.740 a baby from a frozen egg you should say you should say it's like flash frozen vegetables

00:26:47.900 retain the nutrients better than fresh veggies but i couldn't believe it because even just a

00:26:54.500 generation she she was like well i'm sure it's perfectly safe and i said mom it's like yeah

00:26:59.080 beyond so common but to her and by the way again she god bless her you know she had me

00:27:04.480 all natural at 42 right which remains you know exciting an exciting idea to me but

00:27:10.720 i couldn't believe she she was scandalized by it so anyway god the indignity that and it's about 0.98

00:27:17.060 10 days clock on us it's about 10 days indignity that there's a fucking clock you would inject me 0.98

00:27:22.280 right you would of course i'd love it it'd be a dream come true i think it might be a little fun 0.97

00:27:26.240 i mean no i don't know about that but i just think i kind of because of and i realize this

00:27:30.980 due to you know anxiety of course all of it there might be something that calms within me if i just

00:27:37.820 throw those things on ice you know sure because then what if i just go out and get inseminated

00:27:43.900 by a rogue fireman.

00:27:45.520 In case you come across a rogue fireman,

00:27:47.340 is that what you said?

00:27:47.740 Like, what if the anxiety of like,

00:27:49.360 well, what if I want to do it, you know,

00:27:51.000 and then suddenly some fireman winks at me

00:27:53.300 and I'm like, hey, you know.

00:27:56.920 Hey, I'd love to put a baby inside my nose

00:27:59.560 like a little bit wrinkly, 0.97

00:28:00.740 but fresh egg inside an old oven, hey, it cooks.

00:28:04.160 I mean, I certainly know I don't crave motherhood

00:28:06.180 to the extent that I would raise a child alone.

00:28:10.780 Right.

00:28:12.060 No interest.

00:28:12.860 this one was thrust upon you baby uh baby boomers baby boom stuff i mean i'm like i the woman who

00:28:19.720 becomes pregnant and raises her child alone like it's incredible proud of you like do it but me

00:28:26.020 i don't know there is something that in a way could almost be nice about it's sort of like

00:28:29.780 sometimes you don't want a collaborator totally no no i i think it's brilliant sometimes you don't

00:28:34.960 want someone with their opinions oh can you imagine god i remember a boyfriend once saying

00:28:40.500 like like literally like a boyfriend you might have even been in high school like being like

00:28:44.800 no my son will play baseball oh god so scary no matter what like I was like oh particularly if 0.96

00:28:51.200 you're the one who's who's like carrying the child it's what you want like you you have your 1.00

00:28:57.900 word matters more than the fool across the room who didn't have to you know sacrifice your cunt 1.00

00:29:06.660 yeah no but i but then but then at the same breath i mean you know the diet the debate 1.00

00:29:13.740 continues into the into the internal hellfires i recently watched a friend breast pump just like

00:29:19.400 the you know right but literally saying after school snack triggered for me the memories of

00:29:23.880 my own after school snack and then i was like well i want my daughter now see that's very

00:29:27.740 interesting because it triggers for me the desire to go to pinkberry and have the afternoon snack

00:29:31.700 myself you see for me to maintain to be daughter not have a child to take to pink i am my daughter

00:29:38.420 absolutely there is a child we you by the way we all do have children ourselves yes parent your 0.97

00:29:45.800 goddamn self first and then see if you're up to it yeah yeah handle all that how about your first 0.89

00:29:51.580 child no one's an only child sorry oh my god all right let's stay on it let's stay on it for a 0.99

00:29:56.840 minute this is all right we're doing a full campaign i won't i won't leave it behind hold

00:30:00.920 on no one's an only child because you got you because you got little baby you and then also

00:30:08.300 no one's um no one's child never met a childless woman no she's her own child yeah never met a

00:30:16.560 woman who ain't a mother mother to herself never met a never never met a never met an old oh never

00:30:24.340 met a spinster never met an old maid you know why married to herself oh yeah beautiful me myself

00:30:31.660 and me a thruple me myself and these thighs i wonder if a term like thruple is is just something 0.99

00:30:39.540 that's going to be like for three years and then it'll be replaced with something else like a

00:30:43.240 different term like do you know i mean because thruple obviously i don't i i don't respond to

00:30:48.600 puns i follow a thruple on instagram no i don't mean will the trend to fall away i don't mean

00:30:55.320 will the trend you mean the language i'm just like realizing that like i'm saying like one of

00:30:59.820 those words like i'm saying the word spanglish essentially you know what i mean right right

00:31:03.960 like thruple isn't it's not a it's like um you know i actually don't understand but okay hold

00:31:12.160 on thruple's not a real word right it's yeah it's a three-person couple three couple thruple

00:31:17.740 yeah it's not like a try you know a duo it's not a triad or something like like a literal word

00:31:24.860 right it's a cutesy word right um so i don't enjoy when those slip into my speeches you know

00:31:30.420 i want to speak from a place of forever of course i haven't read a book in five weeks i haven't my

00:31:37.460 eyes haven't glanced at a page and i'm forgiving myself because the truth is i have been slammed 0.82

00:31:42.640 with work you know and they're having like a damn dog you know i i've i've i've had a hotel 0.82

00:31:48.520 experience i want to oh i really want to do we go into it now well i just had a realization about 0.97

00:31:54.240 about hotels which is the following okay i have to seriously consider whether spring for the

00:31:59.740 expensive one is worth the constant questioning of whether this is worth the money there it is

00:32:05.800 there it is okay because every flaw it's by the way i'll tell you right now it's not worth it

00:32:10.400 every flaw is pronounced in neon is devastation well i believe i've talked on this very pod

00:32:16.820 about the one time that i believe we have a podcast i know we did it i know i love the pod

00:32:23.860 but we um did one spring for like an exorbitantly priced hotel for two nights big bear or something

00:32:29.240 and yeah yeah in big surf a place i don't know see i said big bear because i don't know the

00:32:34.080 difference um i think i've even talked about it ventana and i and i outed them because they were

00:32:37.800 rude oh my god and um i couldn't believe it or just spoke their name no i believe i spoke their

00:32:44.360 name on on the cast no right okay yeah because they added them like i didn't know if that was

00:32:49.260 like oh no no no of course not i didn't way of saying to speak their name no but here i am at

00:32:54.780 the cafe sub tweeting my brains out everyone's like hearing it okay no but that was so expensive

00:33:01.600 and so I was immediately shocked when the service and things you know the tv's broken well I don't

00:33:08.360 really you know do I need the tv you didn't want it but love it to work you know that kind of hurts

00:33:12.220 and then also the thing that almost made me drop my head on the ground and chop it off I wanted to

00:33:18.920 say can't canister but I don't know why yeah I my I wanted my head to fall off my body and roll into

00:33:24.340 the ocean when they told me that breakfast wasn't included and i all i mean i nearly it's never

00:33:32.720 included anymore to be clear well guess what at some places it still is honey places that have a

00:33:37.340 little respect and still believe in joy but you don't have to pay for that because a lot of times

00:33:41.720 when you're clicking it's included in included in the price that you just up so you're paying for

00:33:46.920 it in some way but no i mean like literally a lot of for them for them at ventana to not offer

00:33:51.880 breakfast was and that's when I go I don't belong here and I don't want to belong here I don't want

00:33:56.960 to belong to these people to this to these psychos and it was a weird thing of like lounging around

00:34:01.980 the pool I'm like why am I here like everyone is you know everyone owns Viacom and then it's me

00:34:07.040 like it makes no sense um well that's the other thing it's not my yeah the the the feeling of

00:34:12.660 okay when you um and I tried to get out of the second night that's what I was gonna say book

00:34:16.940 beyond your means i was there with my lover and i left early i left early recently by the way after

00:34:23.240 the night one i was like how the hell do we get out of here i was ready to scatter broken glass

00:34:26.880 on the on the private deck how do you leave because i because i wanted to leave i was like

00:34:31.240 it's not worth the price another night of this i had to say after a number of experiences at a

00:34:37.980 at a hotel including and you know and i will not name them because they they they handled it but 0.98

00:34:42.680 you know, very expensive and literal dog shit in the outdoor shower. 0.98

00:34:50.580 Yeah, that's tough. And, and a series of things. And I ultimately did leave 0.99

00:34:54.600 and I had to say to them, you left early. Sorry. I don't think I realized that two nights early.

00:35:00.400 And I went down the street to a cheaper hotel. Okay. I do remember this now. And I told them

00:35:05.280 that I said at checkout, I mean, not, not like I told them that, like, I was just like,

00:35:09.880 they were like did that thing get solved about but an issue i was like no i can see you very

00:35:14.780 graciously being like no yeah because you're never rude really hard well there were a couple there

00:35:19.720 were a couple issues where there were well i say there are a couple issues there were a lot of

00:35:23.800 issues but some of the things well here's a big one here's something i don't like in a hotel okay

00:35:28.080 and this might be an issue this might be the boutique blues okay the boutique hotel blues

00:35:35.320 okay which is boutique hotels have their their benefits and their detractors okay this is the

00:35:40.980 very same things that the butter knife of the hotel is double-edged let's say okay and we've

00:35:46.520 talked about this this is why we've always said mid-range is it mid-range i don't know it's it's

00:35:52.800 is that what we want i'm not i'm not sure what the answer is okay well well you know i had this idea

00:35:57.660 this week which was um i was thinking about holiday and as i was at a place that was so

00:36:02.900 expensive you know I could barely breathe the number was just hovering in the air sort of

00:36:07.220 bouncing around yeah bouncing around just sort of a vignette my vision was a vignette you know

00:36:14.560 I'm talking about it was it was coming in at the corners and the corners were the price okay it was

00:36:18.100 it was colored everything it was a triptych everything was a triptych yeah yeah and um

00:36:24.540 two out of three were the price and one was where I was living so yes exactly I'm picturing yeah

00:36:30.060 and so there i am at this luxury spot fantasizing about the holiday inn and thinking about a

00:36:36.740 campaign for holiday inn that we could do or similar courtyard marriott whatever just just

00:36:41.600 something like we know what we are okay wait i had it maybe maybe i'm like i'm trying to think

00:36:48.040 i think i sent it to you maybe i sent it to john it's like it's like we know what we are but what

00:36:53.320 we are we are like we know what we are but what we are what we promise we do yeah i'm gonna i now

00:36:59.260 oh right right right it's like the ramada we get like we know and we're and you'll be glad okay

00:37:05.980 wait i'm gonna find it right oh i found it i found it this is sent from um the hotel i wrote

00:37:11.120 oh yeah it's genius are you ready yeah this would be a holiday and this would be a whatever okay

00:37:16.060 yeah we know what we are but what we are we guarantee oh for example what they offer

00:37:24.080 but they claim the offer you'll get yeah totally totally here's what i wanted yeah let's hear it

00:37:30.900 i want to hear it now right luxury hotel i want to be very clear yeah luxury can i get a pot of

00:37:35.620 coffee delivered to my room every morning at what time on the details well the details were

00:37:41.760 originally it was because i was saying you know i'm up at i'm up at seven would that be your wake

00:37:46.020 up because that's the dream you know i'm up at seven you know the the restaurant doesn't open

00:37:50.540 until 8, you know, downstairs to get breakfast, whatever. Now, I came to realize the fact that

00:37:55.320 the restaurant doesn't open means, you know, there is no service in any way, okay? Hang on,

00:37:59.540 hang on. I need to slow down for a second. So, because we've talked about this, right,

00:38:04.440 when places aren't 24 hours, when they don't offer 24 hours. Of course, a limited menu,

00:38:09.980 but at a luxury, and again, for a luxury experience. Do I expect pot roast at 2? No,

00:38:15.380 but i do expect a burger i have to say it coffee at 7 a.m pretty reasonable to me well you know

00:38:22.680 where they do where they'll they make sure they have that is is holiday inn i was gonna say yep

00:38:27.920 yep and and and a nice high so and any mid-range could get it done you see this is the thing

00:38:33.180 because they have to cater to many right and they have to have a sort of consistency they i mean

00:38:39.580 they're they're putting that bacon in that that tray like six at the at the holiday inn you know

00:38:44.220 We've talked about the glory of that breakfast room.

00:38:46.720 Mingling at dawn with the fathers.

00:38:50.340 A lot of these boutique places literally offering continental.

00:38:54.240 It's like, guys, at these costs, I mean, a continental breakfast,

00:38:58.640 a cold yogurt, one of those small croissants, you know, the minis.

00:39:02.700 Oh, no.

00:39:03.480 The flattened minis that are fresh out of plastic.

00:39:06.080 Yeah.

00:39:06.420 Whatever.

00:39:06.760 It's fine.

00:39:07.140 The hard boiled egg.

00:39:08.440 What is this? 0.79

00:39:09.640 Soviet Russia?

00:39:10.560 Yeah. 0.84

00:39:11.060 I mean, so, and again, I say this, I'm talking expensive.

00:39:16.180 So then there becomes this thing where if you're, if you're at this luxury place with

00:39:19.460 the owners of Viacom sitting around you, right?

00:39:21.780 Yeah.

00:39:22.260 What I've noticed is that suddenly it becomes almost like, like weirdly, they're all not

00:39:28.260 complaining because I guess they're always living at that standard.

00:39:31.600 Exactly.

00:39:31.940 That's the thing.

00:39:32.560 Those people, it's nothing.

00:39:34.280 They don't, they don't, they doesn't matter if it goes wrong.

00:39:36.860 They sign the credit card bill and they don't care.

00:39:39.420 they go and maybe they'll go oh it's a little pricey but ultimately they're not going to lose

00:39:43.240 sleep it's nothing whereas i'm awake in the night churning thinking how do we get out of this

00:39:46.740 so they don't and that's why then then you're the monster okay then you're the whatever you're like

00:39:53.360 and then you're reduced to the to the peasant going it wasn't right please give me a refund

00:39:58.720 right trying to itemize and there's a kind of like oh my god i'll quickly say i just had a

00:40:06.020 memory of staying at a nice hotel and it was actually, it was for work. So I wasn't paying

00:40:10.460 it for it. So I was relaxed, but I was like, it was a, it was a nice suite. Yeah. And I was like,

00:40:14.200 wow. And I'm walking around, I go to the toilet, I lift up a toilet seat to pee.

00:40:18.680 There is literal shit and blood. Imagine one of those things. Yeah. Start with one 0.99

00:40:27.020 shit or blood. Imagine shit and blood increase. And it was so confusing because the toilet was 1.00

00:40:34.100 spotless except for the shit and blood right so I closed it and I was like oh no and I of course 0.99

00:40:40.400 I flushed it out of horror because that's the thing it's this is what's so fucked up is like 0.99

00:40:44.640 is like you so I with the dog shit in the outdoor shower right I take a shower I'm looking at it 0.99

00:40:51.200 it's like where I can still shower because it's like a foot away in the sort of like whatever

00:40:56.900 okay it's like so I'm still able to shower but I'm staring at it somberly yeah okay while I'm

00:41:02.500 showering and then there was no um service right the next morning so you couldn't get coffee at

00:41:07.500 7 a.m that's really blowing my mind okay well let's let's just I I had to accept on morning

00:41:11.700 one that okay they don't offer that here okay I was like fine so then it became all right can I

00:41:18.480 just whenever the hell your kitchen opens can you just then send a pot of coffee I want every

00:41:23.540 morning you know like whatever and they just they couldn't make it happen it just it happened once

00:41:29.040 and then the tray was sat outside the door for used for three days as punishment whatever okay 0.99

00:41:36.420 but but anyway the dog shit so here's the question hang on hang on was the tray really 0.97

00:41:41.740 was the was the used tray really outside for three days yep and once once the service started 0.98

00:41:47.020 because i called and requested it because some places like don't have service during covid it's

00:41:51.180 like a whole thing right so yeah or a lot of them like fell off and kept it that way i don't know

00:41:55.240 yeah i'll never forget once being in london because i usually don't i usually always have

00:41:59.980 do not disturb on you know if i'm if i'm only there for a few days it's like why um but one

00:42:05.460 time i forgot to leave the do not disturb on and so i returned to my hotel at the end of the day

00:42:11.100 and all my toiletries have been scattered you know i'd like done my makeup and everything was

00:42:14.660 like yeah a hellscape on the sink and i came back yes each item meticulously laid out as if on a

00:42:22.220 grid as if on an invisible matrix created by god i could not believe it and guess what there but

00:42:28.160 there were two like kind of scant unused q-tips that i had there lined up next to each other like

00:42:33.580 little soldiers in the dawn ready to fight i was humbled that is so beautiful resting and ready to

00:42:41.480 fight well also the dignity given to those two q-tips like no you're not just getting swept off

00:42:48.240 like meaningless you're not trash i know you're not trash and then let's lay you straight let's

00:42:54.820 suit you up let you rest through through the starry night yeah and tomorrow you fight fresh 0.89

00:43:01.640 yep yep don't triage them just due to their their proximity to yes trash no no no the dead

00:43:10.220 to the dead the dignity the dignity and my dignity was restored as a result

00:43:14.660 okay what you say about organization triggering like for the organization to seem to rest upon

00:43:23.760 an invisible matrix created by god right i think also then you can reverse that it's the same it

00:43:29.520 works in both directions so if you line up your things okay on a on a matrix that you

00:43:34.780 create yourself i think you do call in the fairies you do call like i think there's a reverse

00:43:42.160 action create sacred space and then the template of light do you see what i'm saying yes yeah it

00:43:51.420 doesn't have to just be that it's resting upon a matrix it's already there i think you can make

00:43:56.220 the thing and then the matrix will appear appears yeah totally or it will be drawn in sacred

00:44:01.060 geometry folks i mean i oh that's a big recommendation i just want to say download

00:44:06.040 some sacred geometry like a single printout okay of like one of the sacred geometry like

00:44:10.740 shapes or patterns right like those um uh what are they called the flowers those like

00:44:15.260 flowers of life or something like that mandalas well they all i would always get the mandalas but

00:44:21.160 like but the certain um the circles that enter interconnect and then look like sort of flowers

00:44:27.960 whatever there's a certain term for it yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i like to place that 0.98

00:44:31.840 well certainly place it under your damn your damn water jug if you can oh yeah but i like to put that 0.99

00:44:36.680 under a pet's dish a pet's water i did that for my cat snoozer back in the day with her kidney 0.99

00:44:41.380 issues i put that in a little note remember this i just think it's a really nice thing to do

00:44:45.800 yeah throw sacred geometry or note of health under under the water under a pet's water

00:44:51.580 because they're very sensitive you know oh yeah totally but anyway sacred geometry oh yeah the

00:44:58.340 matrix oh yeah organize our things organize our makeup counter what's it called vanity

00:45:04.520 makeup counter makeup organizer as makeup organizers have really sacred sacred call to god

00:45:11.820 yeah i know or not maybe not god but something fairies i like to please the fairies that's a

00:45:17.380 nice idea i am a fairy door what i got a little fairy with a wooden fairy door i put in the

00:45:23.560 garden oh i like i guess the tree stump so they can come in

00:45:28.380 Yeah, and then my friend Paul told me they like sparkly things, actually.

00:45:33.220 Oh, of course they do.

00:45:34.120 So I need to add some sparkle. 0.99

00:45:35.460 I'm a fool. 0.80

00:45:36.240 I thought the wood blending in with a tree would appeal to them, sort of naturalist. 0.98

00:45:41.060 The fairy thing I can get behind.

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00:47:19.880 Pivoting to a new topic quickly, which is, well, two things.

00:47:23.320 first of all why quick thank you you're right you're right uh so a couple episodes i was really

00:47:31.360 enjoying my mushroom microdose and i had to stop because it was hurting my stomach which was really

00:47:36.680 devastating to me and i have to figure this out because i was really loving it and was like

00:47:42.940 you're so excited my yeah and i'm actually i'm gonna meet with someone for more of a guided

00:47:47.920 integrated experience you know but but i just i was starting to experience like in the evening i

00:47:55.940 would like eat it in the morning i would feel completely great and normal and then around

00:47:59.520 9 p.m crazy stomach bloating cramping and bloating and i was like excuse because again i'm consuming

00:48:08.680 such a small amount right like what is that why is that thing triggering and i was devastated

00:48:15.440 and creation of gases exactly and i believed i was like it has to be something else it has to

00:48:19.820 be something else and then i then i was like okay this like i'm talking about like pain like something 0.72

00:48:24.120 like hurting and like not being able to like button my goddamn pants at 10 p.m and so then i 0.91

00:48:31.080 i thought well here's what you're gonna do kate you're gonna go off it for a week 0.96

00:48:33.820 guess what happened so gone it went away and then i went okay let's try i reintroduced it

00:48:38.960 one morning guess what happened that night instant the stomach pain was back so i know a lot and i'm 0.52

00:48:43.000 like fuck because i i and then of course i did some googling and saw some people being like yeah 0.86

00:48:48.800 like like you know that it can happen but i have to figure it out i have to find something to take 0.99

00:48:54.580 to counteract it or something because i'm committed to going back the gods of your body are saying

00:48:59.420 this isn't right for you generally how do you feel about that i'm more solutions oriented okay

00:49:03.740 where i go well no i'm gonna find a way i don't think i i don't i didn't take it as that i mean

00:49:10.080 i'm just saying that for fun you know no no or to be joyless i guess i'm gonna try i also was

00:49:16.140 resisting your i guess i'm unconsciously or consciously resisting this becoming a protocol

00:49:21.340 for you i understand i see it as something i can't risk doing in my antidepressant-based life

00:49:26.620 and so i want it to not not be part i want it to not save your life so that i won't feel jealous

00:49:31.260 which is an ugly ugly thought no of course of course i think it could save our both of our

00:49:36.720 lives but i also the ones that i'm taking are like a gummy and i'm like is it the gummy but like no

00:49:43.660 i would imagine a single gummy yeah like it's like what the cellulose or whatever it's the

00:49:49.760 mushroom anyway i have to i have to figure it out because the gelatin i just have to figure it out

00:49:54.960 and again i want to be clear the microdose it's not like okay i'm doing this now for 30 years it's

00:49:59.200 like you go on for a certain period you go off it's not you know the protocol is limited some

00:50:05.960 people have different protocols but it's sometimes like you're doing it four days on more of a you

00:50:09.980 know two days off or whatever for a month or so or sometimes people say three months but

00:50:17.440 you know people say on the forums people say i just want to i just want to because i just had

00:50:22.900 a panic about coming off like an asshole about hotels i just want to finish a couple thoughts 0.93

00:50:26.260 there okay of course please no go back which are one so the dog shit thing right this is similar to 0.99

00:50:31.320 the blood and the shit in the toilet it's like it's like you obviously the desire is to immediately 0.97

00:50:36.700 clean it get rid of it whatever right yeah but then you've destroyed the proof so it becomes 0.90

00:50:42.200 this nightmare the evidence also no you can't oh no did you call instantly so then the next day

00:50:49.280 i'm like well they'll see it call it in or whatever and then i didn't write them but i was

00:50:53.880 like okay i'll mention it because it's just hell i hate like hi um i just want to let you know that 0.93

00:51:01.100 you know it's just like hell that there's shit in the shower really okay well no i'm going to but 0.93

00:51:06.300 but i'm staring at it and then and then it's like i'll let them know and then when they clean the 0.98

00:51:12.040 place tomorrow whatever but i'm so then the next morning when they don't do the service right

00:51:16.600 and i'm in the shower again looking at it i'm just like am i really gonna stand here 0.95

00:51:21.040 and stare at this until they handle it you know what i mean like yeah and so i just fucking took 0.98

00:51:28.180 a goddamn wad of toilet paper lifted it up threw it in the toilet and can't imagine can't imagine 0.99

00:51:34.840 and because i'm like i'm not actually like that freaked out by dog shit technically i step on it 0.99

00:51:41.120 outside my apartment near constantly right it's but so it's but it's merely the price bouncing 0.99

00:51:47.540 around my brain of course you're paying to step in dog shit now yeah you're going so so i moved 0.96

00:51:53.620 to a much cheaper hotel like a third the price yeah finally at peace and i walked in i go i go 0.99

00:52:00.280 don't care anything i saw that was like i was like that's an interesting choice yeah yeah i was like

00:52:04.620 oh no you know uh no light in the bathroom whatever like i was like don't care these prices

00:52:08.900 yeah yeah it was uh it was such a relief so it's it's just but then the risk the fear

00:52:15.620 i realized what why i spring is because i want to try to guarantee that the place is good i'm so i'm

00:52:22.680 like yeah let's overpay because hopefully that'll mean nope and quite the opposite is true now i

00:52:28.260 have to go back to risking it on cheaper places yeah yeah risk it risk learn find your place in

00:52:34.760 every city well that's what it is but my other complaint the the the boutique hotel blues okay

00:52:41.020 is that there's no clean way to kind of um so like what would happen is tell them about the 0.98

00:52:49.320 dog shit in the shower and then at breakfast you know the waiter comes over and says we just got 0.98

00:52:54.500 a call from the front desk do you see what I'm saying so like what do you mean we heard about 0.99

00:52:59.440 the dog shit in the shower did that happen we're like like okay okay I've got it slightly wrong 0.99

00:53:03.680 they didn't do that about the dog shit in the shower it was something else oh no right it was 0.99

00:53:06.980 like they came over and were like we heard you called the front desk about like like you want 0.98

00:53:11.340 coffee uh like you can always get it here you know like it ate like it was like so then I felt like

00:53:16.780 an absolute monster so so the whole we got a call from the front desk thing truly shaming you

00:53:22.540 shaming you for basic request and then and then i don't know i don't know it's uh but the whole 0.87

00:53:30.820 complaining thing you also feel like a it's just there's no winning you can't win you can't win

00:53:36.260 maybe there is winning i don't know but it's it's uh well it sounds like you won a little bit

00:53:40.180 little girl i won in that i i got out early and and refused well here's here's the other big

00:53:46.160 problem they really will not generally refund okay they may let you out without a penalty yeah

00:53:51.440 yeah oh yeah oh the full refund good luck because the problem is they go we still gave you a place

00:53:55.720 they act like you're a traveler in the night okay in the in the 1500s right in okay you know and

00:54:02.320 they're like we gave you we gave you to rest your head yeah yeah we gave you shelter so there's no

00:54:06.940 like like you would have been out in the streets if you weren't here right right the implication

00:54:11.080 yeah so they're like we we used the bed our basic promise yeah i feel like no you didn't

00:54:16.780 yeah i would have stayed home or gone to the holiday inn so yeah when there are other options

00:54:22.120 in that way i guess i feel like they can't act like they gave you something that i guess also

00:54:27.060 the implication is like i do have a place i live i have an apartment so i didn't go to you people

00:54:32.740 because i i needed shelter right right so so so paying for shelter is not enough no no you weren't

00:54:39.300 seeking shelter you were seeking escape look at this curl sorry not fun for the listeners but

00:54:46.340 they're just such a cute curl oh wow what does it remind me of oh a music note not a music note a

00:54:51.420 um a thing at the beginning staff oh yeah those things is the word well you um were shocked that

00:54:57.780 i sprung for a nice massage at a nice spa i instantly thought you'd gotten it for free

00:55:02.500 yeah well more like free you don't get that excited about massages generally okay so i got

00:55:08.520 my the first time so i was scheduling a massage which i don't do often but i've been very stressed

00:55:14.900 out and i thought you know what i'm gonna do it they only had a male masseuse available which i

00:55:20.140 thought uh-oh i was scared because notoriously you never i never do you never i never do that 0.93

00:55:26.180 and i thought okay fuck it grow up i'm gonna do it yeah because i of course i'm terrified it'll 0.99

00:55:32.020 just devolve into sex instantly no or just like and you mean sex like you mean like um you're not 1.00

00:55:39.780 worried it's gonna devolve into into something non-consensual no no i just it's too it's gonna

00:55:45.800 evolve into a new relationship i'm just so scared that like i just can't do it i can't do it it's

00:55:53.260 just too aware of the whole time i'm i would be stressed and i would be like okay here not that

00:55:59.160 the not that the other most not that only a man would be like assessing my body but like it's this

00:56:04.980 thing there's an understandable that there's a natural and there's this thing like don't like

00:56:09.140 there's this thing too of like he walks in the room and goes i'm not going to insert my hand 0.99

00:56:14.480 into your vagina like you know so it's like almost like there has there's like it's so pronounced in 0.98

00:56:20.160 the way it's been here's this hypersexual thing oh the pronouncement no no i was gonna say that 0.99

00:56:24.760 is desexualized this is sexual right like you're naked rubbing oil all over your body drawn into

00:56:30.000 relief further pronounced further pronounce the absence of so exactly so that contract so it's

00:56:38.020 almost here's the problem like here's the problem here's what we don't want right it'd be worse 0.88

00:56:42.240 it'd be more sexual if they were absurdly prim like victorian oh my god yeah imagine if like a

00:56:48.580 victorian sort of like anyway came in it'd be disturbing yeah yeah no it's it's confusing

00:56:55.640 anyway so you accept that it's a man this guy older older gentleman i accept i feel fine

00:57:02.880 old gentleman yeah he starts to he starts and it's like actually instantly like too much pressure

00:57:08.460 and i said to him like oh you know what that's actually a little too much and he's like okay

00:57:11.300 instantly adjusted oh you know what something just yeah hey um something just occurred to me

00:57:15.820 you know what that hurts like having to soften it oh god you know what you don't want to soften 0.95

00:57:19.360 i'm so sorry to be just such a bitch but that hurts too much no of course and that's because 0.84

00:57:23.260 i have such a fear of massage and i think we need to popularize this like it shouldn't hurt 0.92

00:57:27.860 like they will hurt you like i was talking to a woman recently i don't know i think it i was

00:57:32.740 talking to a woman recently who said she got a massage and the guy was going too hard and it

00:57:36.000 hurt but she didn't stop him because she was afraid to and she truly has a pinched nerve and

00:57:39.900 hasn't been able to move her arm the same way since this was like eight months ago i'm not 0.78

00:57:43.000 fucking kidding that's so you have to by the way it's a freak thing but you have to be careful 0.80

00:57:46.440 because sometimes these people like he did something he mentioned he was like he was like 0.96

00:57:49.560 at one point he was like oh i'm just like checking your spine it was like touching my spine even that

00:57:53.060 i was like i don't need you to check my spine doll we're not the doctor's office you know i just felt

00:57:56.100 like i was like don't check my spine what does that mean like stay away from the bone stay away

00:57:59.860 from the primary bone system that goes to my brain yeah don't they should never be on the spine

00:58:04.480 meanwhile i'm always like don't be afraid of the neck get in there yeah oh see and i'm always like

00:58:09.520 stay off my neck careful I tell them ahead of time I'm always like I don't like bending like

00:58:13.400 sometimes people like bend your limbs I'm like don't bend my knee like I don't like the stretch

00:58:18.560 thing the point is I proceeded to get wait for it the best massage of my life to a point where

00:58:24.480 ordinarily he had and he was doing face stuff and head stuff and at one point he had his hands like

00:58:29.920 between my eyes and I was completely like supine and into it and it was unreal and did the fears of

00:58:39.080 of the pronouncement of sexuality slip away completely yes they slipped away they slipped

00:58:44.140 away because it was a truly excellent massage there was a moment where i'm convinced oh god 0.99

00:58:50.500 and he did nothing wrong there was a moment that i'm convinced my hand grazed his flaccid penis but 0.98

00:58:55.660 that could all be in my imagination it could absolutely be me hold on let me take a minute 0.99

00:59:00.540 he did nothing wrong she says my hand grazed his now now you're lying supine as you say and limp

00:59:07.980 okay so you didn't reach up i'm bad you didn't wave your hand in the ground and no so i think

00:59:14.520 what so by the way and again i could be completely wrong about this which i think i've told you

00:59:18.580 what was it then how could it not there's a risk of i think the reason that you at least perceive

00:59:24.020 it right is because you're lying there was this were you on your stomach or back i was on my

00:59:27.960 stomach at this point yeah your hand is on the side next to you right and the palm faces up it's 0.99

00:59:33.140 your arm is inverted the palm faces up it's at the edge of the table so he's his dick is flush 0.99

00:59:38.240 hip too yeah flush to the table yeah so there's this sense that anything that sort of like his 0.80

00:59:43.780 arm could have rushed by as you walked by technically i really the more i think about 0.99

00:59:49.100 i think it was his penis you know maybe it sucks i know but it was so idea i have an idea boy it 1.00

00:59:55.080 was brief and i moved my hand wear a cup fucking wear a cup i was gonna say i was gonna say iron 1.00

01:00:02.200 chastity belt okay why the fuck is your soft flesh no like the guy the the male masseuse comes in 0.99

01:00:09.860 he shows you he opens his robe shows you the iron chastity belt and it can't just be a cup because 0.99

01:00:15.540 a cup still uh draws the draws a line pronounces the presence of the genital so that's why i feel

01:00:22.720 that from waist down it needs to be almost like a hoop skirt girdle but but metal like a sheer like

01:00:30.280 a box a box that goes entirely around the hips yeah right yeah even so when you touch so because

01:00:35.860 here's the problem with the you still touch the cup imagine your hand brushing the cup yeah you're

01:00:39.620 like you know you're you're you're in the proximity yeah the exact area behind which

01:00:44.840 i think and here's what's even worse my hand i really do think touched it i went is oh no and

01:00:54.740 instead of and then i was still protecting him because i didn't move my hand suddenly away in

01:00:59.740 horror i went you didn't want to look no i was like i wanted to have the moment not exist so

01:01:04.900 instead i just kind of moved there it is folks there it is and by the way made no point with

01:01:11.300 him next week uh he it was so good i was just like great okay right i mean that's the thing

01:01:18.580 you're like i couldn't believe it i mean that that was to me the ultimate luxury it was going

01:01:23.040 at the front desk and going when when is he back and they go well he's only in on tuesdays and i

01:01:26.660 said yeah i bet because he's that good yes that's my day he's all over town yeah no i wonder if he's

01:01:32.400 all over town well i pictured it as being he's so sought after i once had this was devastating 0.93

01:01:36.760 you ready for this this is this is fucked up this happened in new york i went to a um to a 0.98

01:01:42.000 massage therapist okay it's not as fucked up as as i'm leading it sounds like based on what 0.99

01:01:47.180 we're talking about it's it's just another thing about being mischarged okay okay so i show up i 0.97

01:01:53.360 the guy likes to do a little consult at the beginning you know what what are your issues

01:01:57.240 whatever like you know like whatever okay for before the massage which is like you know you

01:02:01.640 sometimes experience a little version of that something yeah sometimes it's just the intake

01:02:05.700 form but sometimes they're a little more like what's going on for you so it's like I'm like

01:02:08.520 okay so I sit down for a minute right and I've booked an hour massage or whatever sit down for

01:02:14.080 a minute and you know he's asking what you know what's going on and we sort of start talking and

01:02:19.260 the talk goes on for a really long time okay like it just goes on for a long time he's asking

01:02:24.960 questions i'm rolling with it because all right i guess this is something this guy does at the

01:02:30.140 end he just charges me for two hours no one yeah uh outrageous says well the conversation we had

01:02:37.000 like as though that was as though that was something you elected to do can you believe

01:02:42.180 swindled swindled i it really took the uh the charm out of that consult i'll tell you that much

01:02:52.260 it sure does oh he also was like this this can um he was like he did some kind of like maneuver

01:02:58.000 like i think it was like reflexology like the hand or something like but he was like he's like

01:03:03.800 this can bring on the period faster like to give you relief from oh boy i was like oh can you not

01:03:10.300 yeah speak as if the interior yeah because i try to become a piece of meat on the table

01:03:18.040 yeah i i basically try to not dissociate like not leave my body because i feel like there should be

01:03:26.140 a somatic connection that might help the massage or let help the massage go deeper but i i basically

01:03:33.660 i basically don't respond i don't you know make a single sound nothing i basically want to be like

01:03:40.420 an object so that's how i sort of depersonalize it yeah in a way that i also like to try to call

01:03:46.780 in call in the guides you know if there's any uh spirit you know types an angel anyone around who

01:03:54.660 wants to get in on this setting yeah and kind of do their work alongside alongside the gross matter

01:04:00.880 flesh work happening on this plane that's not kind of nice like like that's nice get in here

01:04:05.680 because i'm relaxed oh yeah might be a good time you're particularly open to it um i think we gotta

01:04:11.820 we gotta we gotta go i have one last thing i swear it's one last thing yeah of course once

01:04:16.720 again my i'm like what is it about bitching about the hotel that that made me feel really

01:04:21.080 like self-conscious in this podcast and i think i know what it is are you ready yeah it's it's not

01:04:25.880 the the principles okay which i stand behind and think are interesting to discuss it's actually

01:04:30.680 the vocal pattern i slip into oh of course yeah okay and i'm like 16 registers i'm like that's

01:04:38.800 not like to you like i'm like that's not okay oh oh i have something okay keep going you're

01:04:45.260 reminding me of something i want to say i don't even know i've lost it but i i it's a slipping

01:04:49.220 into something an archetype that for some reason it's like the complaints roll off the tongue

01:04:54.020 easier it's like i get a different accent it's just in this conversation and recounting it to

01:05:01.340 be clear not with the people with the people i'm actually like more like embodied because

01:05:06.240 i'm so determined not to sound like an asshole or whatever but with you i'm just like yeah that's

01:05:12.460 not okay yeah yeah no okay you're bringing up in me and again we never put people on blast on 0.96

01:05:18.160 the pod but i'm ready to by name call out two bunch palms for how rude they were on the phone

01:05:23.240 and I'll even go further. It was the manager. Okay. So tell me, tell me if you think that this

01:05:28.220 is appropriate. Tell me if you think that I'm being, okay. I'm trying to book a room

01:05:33.100 for myself and the room, the point I'm going with, um, with, with a friend. Okay.

01:05:39.780 Oh no, Kate. Another friend.

01:05:41.100 Let's not even talk about the fact that my oldest, oldest friends, I was 12. Okay.

01:05:45.260 And it's a, it's a bit of a, it's a few of us actually. And it's a room. Okay. The point is

01:05:50.220 i around 10 a.m i'm looking at the website here it is here's the room price i screen grab that

01:05:59.680 i send it to the to the girls everyone goes that looks great perfect i go great

01:06:03.360 wait are you on the hotel's website yes i'm on the hotel's website i'm on the hotel's website

01:06:08.460 they go this date that room here's the price i screen grab it i send everyone goes perfect i go

01:06:14.900 i'll book it when i get home i everyone so more friends it's it's four of us in one room the room

01:06:21.700 sleeps four it's two king-sized beds it's a sleepover it's one night okay point is okay

01:06:26.240 i'm shocked and horrified of course why well you know i know you love a sleepover and so do i but

01:06:32.680 why not have a room to go back to it i know i know of course of course i know okay the toilet

01:06:37.460 Let's see it warmed by a dear friend's cheeks.

01:06:41.680 Trust me, I'm scared for that.

01:06:43.320 But listen.

01:06:43.720 All right, go on.

01:06:44.920 I go run a couple errands.

01:06:46.340 I come home.

01:06:46.940 It's a couple hours later.

01:06:48.160 I log back onto the website.

01:06:49.660 I've got my credit card out.

01:06:51.160 The price has gone up a full $100.

01:06:54.820 $100 in mere hours.

01:06:57.220 And by the way.

01:06:57.640 Sky rocket.

01:06:58.420 And by the way, am I wrong?

01:07:00.900 That's unacceptable.

01:07:02.320 No?

01:07:02.660 In mere hours?

01:07:04.920 And I'll say another thing.

01:07:06.600 yeah which is that i'm taking it in about it said one left when i first looked i was like oh my god

01:07:14.140 says six no no i was like oh my god one left so i was kind of like okay i'm gonna do right when i

01:07:17.820 get home i get back home still says one left so i'm trying to say is it wasn't like there were

01:07:21.780 three and now there's one and the price do you know what i mean and there's a couple this is

01:07:25.060 mere hours so i find that crazy same tier room it was the exact same room not even the same tier it

01:07:32.860 was the same room okay and i had the screen where i had the screen grab evidence so i go i'm gonna

01:07:38.340 call them so i call and i'm talking to someone hi um oh god i went to book this room just a couple

01:07:43.980 hours ago and it was this price and now the price has shot up a hundred dollars i'm wondering if

01:07:47.840 there's anything done and she's kind of like i have the screen grab well of course i mentioned

01:07:52.940 that or she was like no she goes she goes oh because it's like the spring or the desert she

01:07:57.980 was like oh the desert room is is um that price i went no no this was the spring and she went oh

01:08:04.040 really and i said yeah i was like i actually even have it screen grabbed and she said okay um i'm i

01:08:08.780 can't really do anything i could connect you to my manager and i said yeah that would be great 0.91

01:08:12.140 this woman gets on the phone instant hostility all right she's not having it i explain it to her

01:08:17.560 and i go and she goes yeah there's something i can do and i go really i kind of kind of keep it

01:08:22.640 light i go really just a just a couple hours different the same room there's nothing you can

01:08:27.060 do she goes no it's an algorithm I practically hang up on her I get so I like and here's what

01:08:34.400 also bothers me not so much as that I'm sorry not so much as I know that might seem ridiculous

01:08:40.660 unfortunately I'm out of whatever the hell just a very just shutting me down and so I

01:08:46.260 essentially hung up on her I said I said I was like okay and I got off the phone and and out of

01:08:52.900 by the way I could not bring myself to pay the extra 100 so I truly switched the date of the

01:08:58.860 whole event yeah to retain to retain the original price there's a it becomes a battle of wills okay

01:09:06.580 exactly you're going well I'm certainly not going to pay it now because also you're all sharing the

01:09:09.980 room so this hundred is actually 25 a person right god damn it yeah no but I'm thinking of it that

01:09:15.360 way yeah yeah yeah no but it's like it's like to then be like okay I guess I'll book it like 0.91

01:09:20.480 now it's a battle of wills with the manager so like i feel like you could i could not believe

01:09:25.480 her tone and i'm just but be honest with me don't you think that's a little absurd don't you think

01:09:29.880 she can go yeah yeah i can give you the original rate it jumped up like that in a couple hours

01:09:33.860 that doesn't really make sense no yeah i mean i i mean what don't i understand here and now

01:09:40.300 is it a boutique hotel uh yeah who even knows what yeah yeah yeah so to me that that almost

01:09:47.140 suggest i don't know it's hard to say whether it's the big national chain or the boutique hotel

01:09:51.380 that would be more in control of their ability to but i mean tech technically i would imagine

01:09:58.480 that the manager has uh free reign to adjust that so you know what i think is i'm sure i've

01:10:07.320 brought this up before but like the unfortunate motto of so much um customer service these days

01:10:13.660 you ready hmm my hands are tied oh really yeah it's like it's like well let me untie them for

01:10:22.460 you yeah when you said that it reminded me of something oh oh so when i arrived at this hotel

01:10:28.280 um due to a whatever an issue they brought me to a room that was not the room i had intended to book

01:10:33.700 okay not even blaming them for that it's too impossible to explain okay the whole thing okay

01:10:37.980 but so what you're saying about no actually it was the spring room okay what i think is sometimes

01:10:43.380 not understood particularly when you're springing for it springing for a luxury right a splurge 0.98

01:10:49.600 they assume once again you're this sort of asshole who just sort of books these things 0.98

01:10:55.000 without considering right that money is nothing shows up and goes this isn't what i saw on the 0.98

01:10:59.140 home page of the website when in fact because this is a splurge i have researched exactly every

01:11:05.500 single page on that website multiple times like if you go to my history and my my thing it's

01:11:11.180 the same page I've navigated my way every single way you could yes around that website I know

01:11:16.700 everything about the costs and what the different rooms like I know more than them you know what I

01:11:22.800 mean about the the tiers of the rooms and actually the premier suite and da da da right yes and I

01:11:29.000 know things like that at a certain tier these rooms some of them come with an outdoor shower

01:11:33.160 some don't right whatever like all of that and so I know it so well that it's almost like when I

01:11:37.880 arrive at the hotel they're acting like you've just rolled in and and know nothing and I almost

01:11:43.320 feel like I have to hide how much I know because it'll reveal me to be the peasant or whatever

01:11:47.700 right right of course I'm trying to like almost act casual or something but then I get to the room

01:11:51.220 and the very things that I'd booked the splurge for which were the outdoor shower and a little

01:11:55.620 patio area that you could sit outside were nary to be seen okay oh and this little seating area

01:12:02.580 okay so it was like it was like no I splurged this was clearly like you know like I splurged

01:12:07.080 for a room that had those features and that was it and so guys bringing me in and it's like you

01:12:11.280 want to roll with the moment which is just like here you are and we're so excited to have you

01:12:14.780 they didn't say any of that stuff but you know what i mean you want to roll the moment and so

01:12:17.820 my eyes are darting around with a smile still plastered on my face okay and i'm like i'm like

01:12:23.200 there's no seating area this just can't be right okay and i'm racking my brain going could it could

01:12:27.240 you know making sure because i i will not make an error no i will not be caught wrong of course

01:12:32.400 because then it invalidates everything i will not say i'm supposed to have this and it's you know

01:12:36.960 and then be right. 0.98

01:12:37.900 So I'm looking around before I say shit, right? 0.99

01:12:39.840 And then I go, well, let's go take a look in the bathroom, okay? 0.99

01:12:42.620 Not only does it not have the outdoor shower,

01:12:44.320 the tier below it, which has windows in the shower, absent.

01:12:47.540 No, this is a dark.

01:12:50.880 It's as if there was a window there and they covered it up

01:12:52.840 so that they could have a room that they could offer at a cheaper price.

01:12:55.360 You know what I mean?

01:12:55.800 Like they start removing features. 0.99

01:12:58.020 So I'm like, fuck, okay? 0.99

01:12:59.840 And let's just say the guy's name was Jerry, okay? 1.00

01:13:01.740 I go, I go, and I'm like, Jerry.

01:13:04.820 We got a problem, honey.

01:13:05.640 i'm pretty sure this isn't the i'm like jerry i'm so sorry but i'm pretty sure this is like 11

01:13:09.560 o'clock at night i'm like is this the you know premier junior suite oh no and it's like no and

01:13:17.360 no it's not and okay and it's just like and then it begins this embarrassing thing of that costs

01:13:25.360 more and i'm like i know i know exactly how much it costs more and i'm fully intending to pay it

01:13:31.360 and I fully intended to pay it you know the whole thing right so it's this embarrassing like

01:13:36.000 sorry that um those things you're describing so it was me as the person who saw things on the

01:13:40.900 website you know when they like put like the fanciest room on the website and then like

01:13:44.600 people don't look and realize that that's the fanciest room so it's like so it's just so then

01:13:48.560 it's like okay let me go back and see what I can do and then and then I'm like I happen to know

01:13:52.740 that the premier junior suite is available I happen to know three are available because I've

01:13:57.440 been on the website all day it's like and I know which dates they're available for I've been through

01:14:01.240 the you know the the reservation second you know third party site i know exactly what's available

01:14:06.700 and the whole thing and it's this sort of embarrassment of knowing all that information

01:14:12.140 that the haggler so then it's like he's like wait here i'll see and i'm like i know there's

01:14:17.360 availability i know you know the website better than jerry knows it what are we doing here all

01:14:22.900 right well anyway i slipped into the voice again hell is real but this is what this this podcast

01:14:27.420 is it's you know it is just is you know what i'm gonna see the performance right here then you

01:14:33.380 can't see anything i'm gonna go take a bath morning baths are what i crave so deeply i'm

01:14:39.840 gonna go film the cats roaming past outside sweet i miss you physically love you love you

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