Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - Hungry, Naked, Need to Shower： Part 1

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00:02:36.040 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:37.580 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:02:38.700 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

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00:02:50.600 Today's topic, loosely speaking,

00:02:52.060 colonicist one eye holding court

00:02:55.920 I'm not going to chew on air but let me just say everyone talks about almonds almonds almonds 0.99

00:03:04.760 are the snack anyone who knows shit about fuck knows the most nutritionally dense the most 0.98

00:03:10.840 important nut on earth is the walnut and the walnut as the snack reigns supreme and guess 0.99

00:03:17.800 what why are walnuts shaped like a brain because they're good for your brain interesting I know

00:03:21.980 How the hell? I mean, it's enough to make you fall to your knees and sob.

00:03:27.800 I'm looking at this full walnut right now. I mean, it is.

00:03:31.000 Oh, right. Because it's shaped like the two lobes of the brain.

00:03:34.620 It's beyond. It's hardly an abstraction. It just is the brain.

00:03:38.240 No, it's not even remotely an abstraction. Yeah. It's almost a little too photographic for my taste.

00:03:43.940 It's a little vile. It's like, eat it. It's good for your brain.

00:03:46.200 Oh, it's a photograph turned into a 3D printing of the brain.

00:03:50.260 It's like, why not utilize the language of symbols in creation?

00:03:56.260 I mean, the two eyes, let's get real, not to do anatomy.

00:03:59.000 Well, why?

00:03:59.620 It's my favorite subject, but two eyes?

00:04:02.340 Why?

00:04:04.440 Like there's an inelegance to it.

00:04:06.380 You know what I mean?

00:04:07.280 I mean, you know how I feel about this.

00:04:09.040 Are you pitching one eye in the head or just one?

00:04:11.940 The only reason I tolerate it.

00:04:13.180 One eye in the center?

00:04:14.240 One eye in the center would be gorgeous.

00:04:15.180 Well, one eye in the center is when it's, I mean, not the forehead, to be clear.

00:04:19.280 I'm talking about the midpoint.

00:04:21.240 No, well, actually, you're not talking at the true midpoint, I think, because the true

00:04:24.180 midpoint would be more down by the nose.

00:04:27.120 Sorry, I didn't mean midpoint.

00:04:29.260 I meant midpoint between where the eyes currently sit.

00:04:31.860 Oh, no, wait, I'm wrong.

00:04:32.600 I'm wrong.

00:04:33.100 Sorry, because I remember drawing in elementary school.

00:04:35.180 Do you remember drawing faces?

00:04:36.920 Like, did you have to do a self-portrait?

00:04:38.760 Yeah.

00:04:39.460 Yeah.

00:04:39.680 So do you remember when they taught perhaps that everyone, you know, the children go to

00:04:44.120 they draw a face right this is actually huge we're gonna talk about drawing on the right side

00:04:47.240 of brain a book that changed me all right so they draw an oval for a face okay and then they go and

00:04:52.780 put the eyes hovering towards the top a child will when in fact anatomically it's like on the circle

00:05:02.040 that is the head the eye is about halfway yeah and this is why i want to talk about how language

00:05:09.900 which precedes meaning, carves up our universe, okay?

00:05:13.120 And destroys us because.

00:05:15.060 So the other example, are you ready?

00:05:16.380 This is the problem when we draw.

00:05:18.520 We approximate in our mind, an eye is a circle,

00:05:21.440 the triangles and O's, okay?

00:05:23.800 And then we go and we sit down, we go, 0.99

00:05:25.300 I'm drawing an eye, so we draw a fucking circle. 0.99

00:05:27.600 But we're not actually looking, okay? 0.99

00:05:31.020 And what's there?

00:05:32.380 So this book I read, it's this huge.

00:05:34.460 You just have to take, go ahead, okay?

00:05:35.600 So drawing on the right side of the brain,

00:05:37.440 I found it, right, in a bookstore.

00:05:38.880 I thought, and as usual, I like to find something that isn't being pitched to me.

00:05:44.040 Right. Something that's not being sold.

00:05:45.180 I'm not, I mean, I took drawing, I took painting in college and thought, okay, this could be,

00:05:48.600 I could pretend I'm, you know, Churchill's and sit out in the backyard and, you know,

00:05:52.860 reflect on war while painting. But I go, there's something to this. If I can figure out what's in

00:05:59.420 between me and drawing that'll unlock, what else might it unlock?

00:06:02.300 Yeah.

00:06:02.780 So Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain is this book. And the woman who teaches it, 0.71

00:06:07.480 It's like she shows these pictures of people like on day one.

00:06:10.060 Okay.

00:06:10.280 When they come in to draw, it's like draw a picture of your face or whatever.

00:06:13.760 Draw a mirror, self-portrait.

00:06:15.100 They do it.

00:06:16.180 And then it's like three hours later, they do a drawing. 1.00

00:06:20.260 And now they're like fucking artists. 0.99

00:06:22.480 She turns them that quick. 1.00

00:06:23.940 Wow.

00:06:24.760 Because it's about seeing.

00:06:27.100 It's not in the hand.

00:06:28.960 So would you like to know how and why?

00:06:32.040 Yeah.

00:06:32.360 Okay.

00:06:32.940 So for example, one trick, and we learned this in college.

00:06:36.980 So let's say you're drawing from a photograph.

00:06:38.580 Let's say you have a photograph of a woman and you go and you draw it by eye.

00:06:41.980 You're going to be making these little left brain assumptions.

00:06:45.540 You're going to go, okay, let me look at that eye.

00:06:47.540 Yeah.

00:06:47.740 And then you're going to go over to your pen and you're going to go circle.

00:06:50.700 Okay.

00:06:51.580 But that's not what you're actually seeing.

00:06:52.940 Your brain is telling you an eye is a circle.

00:06:55.980 An eye is a sphere.

00:06:57.100 So like one of these tricks is that you take that photo that you're drawing from,

00:07:02.700 you flip it upside down.

00:07:04.140 Okay.

00:07:05.600 Okay.

00:07:06.260 Yeah.

00:07:06.580 Interesting.

00:07:07.520 And now you look at that and you draw that.

00:07:09.860 And now, because it's upside down, you've been shifted out of these ideas.

00:07:14.540 And now you're going, what is the actual angle of that line?

00:07:18.180 Yeah.

00:07:18.920 Or the other one is they break it up into, so you take the image, okay?

00:07:23.640 And I know you're not interested, but it's huge.

00:07:26.440 And I'm doing it for the listener, so I don't care.

00:07:27.960 Okay.

00:07:28.720 So, like, it's not enchanting you, but, like, there's someone whose life is changing.

00:07:33.220 Okay.

00:07:33.480 Good.

00:07:33.760 Good.

00:07:34.000 And the other one, the other one, okay?

00:07:35.840 Let's say you draw from a photograph or something.

00:07:37.800 They break it up into lines down, lines across, like a grid.

00:07:41.180 And then you draw each, what's inside each grid, okay?

00:07:45.020 Okay.

00:07:45.820 So picture that.

00:07:46.420 So picture my face is, okay, and the eyebrow.

00:07:49.080 And there's a tiny little square that's covering that.

00:07:51.060 So you get to that and you draw just what's in that.

00:07:53.100 And then you draw what's in that, going along those squares.

00:07:55.720 Then you're copying, not language ideas of eye, eyelash, whatever.

00:07:59.720 Okay, you're copying, okay, a little line that squiggles up this way.

00:08:03.060 A little line that squiggles, oh, it's darker here.

00:08:04.720 You're copying that. 0.98

00:08:06.400 And then you're going to have a fucking image that looks exactly like the thing. 0.99

00:08:09.900 Do you see you're getting past the left brain? 0.99

00:08:12.580 I actually do.

00:08:14.280 It's weird that you bring this up.

00:08:16.460 I'm going to be able to utilize this soon because I am embarking on my first attempt

00:08:20.960 to paint a portrait soon.

00:08:22.080 Okay.

00:08:22.800 Where the hell am I in this equation? 0.99

00:08:25.500 I have a goddamn Plender easel. 0.99

00:08:28.740 Okay. 0.99

00:08:29.280 I have, you know, like the wood thing that stands on three.

00:08:33.380 Oh, I'm aware of an easel.

00:08:34.720 No, but the plein air one that, like, you know, you see out in the countryside in 1772.

00:08:41.360 Sure.

00:08:41.840 Wood.

00:08:42.680 Yeah.

00:08:43.720 Beautiful.

00:08:44.220 It all folds up into a little wooden suitcase that you carry on with your picnic items.

00:08:50.600 So, where's my invite?

00:08:54.180 I'm confused.

00:08:54.800 Why aren't I part of this?

00:08:56.200 I yearn to have painting be a part of my life.

00:08:58.940 It's actually, it sounds, I hope I don't get in trouble for saying it.

00:09:03.820 No, John and I are going to paint each other.

00:09:06.460 I would never get in trouble.

00:09:07.400 We're just for fun.

00:09:08.120 We're going to paint each other.

00:09:09.500 Okay, so that's where I'm not.

00:09:12.960 The seat is full, I see.

00:09:15.300 The seat is full.

00:09:16.320 I mean, it's just...

00:09:17.080 Oh, you said my first portrait.

00:09:19.100 I thought you said...

00:09:20.160 I don't know what I thought you said. 0.99

00:09:21.120 It doesn't fucking matter. 0.97

00:09:21.940 The point is I'm not invited. 0.97

00:09:23.120 And guess what?

00:09:23.740 You know what? 1.00

00:09:24.060 I'm going to fucking create a painting salon. 0.98

00:09:28.100 And you two are going to be distinctly not invited 0.99

00:09:31.180 because you're busy, alone.

00:09:33.240 at each other's homes

00:09:34.760 painting each other.

00:09:35.720 Okay?

00:09:36.160 I know.

00:09:36.840 Okay.

00:09:37.660 And my salon

00:09:39.360 is going to become

00:09:40.340 sort of the cultural center.

00:09:44.200 I have no doubt.

00:09:45.940 And you'll go

00:09:46.840 and you'll be sitting there

00:09:48.420 with each other

00:09:48.900 telling each other

00:09:49.760 that no, this is better.

00:09:50.800 We wouldn't want to be a part of that.

00:09:51.700 It's crass.

00:09:52.300 It's crass.

00:09:52.860 Everyone's like,

00:09:53.300 oh yeah,

00:09:53.600 are you going over to Novak's

00:09:54.860 for the salon?

00:09:55.700 No, like this is what

00:09:56.620 it was really about.

00:09:57.440 It's really about this whole time.

00:09:58.520 So we'll both win in the end,

00:10:00.340 I guess.

00:10:01.040 That's what really matters.

00:10:01.820 There's room for all of us to paint on God's earth

00:10:04.700 So how is your drip?

00:10:07.900 You got a drip I hear

00:10:09.300 Okay, I have to say

00:10:11.260 I believe in the vitamin drip

00:10:14.940 And it might be

00:10:16.240 And listen

00:10:16.920 So yesterday, last couple of days

00:10:19.080 I was feeling not sick

00:10:20.980 But run down

00:10:22.120 Just not fully 100% worried about it

00:10:24.760 Doing all these shows

00:10:26.380 My throat, not sore even

00:10:28.560 Just like inevitable

00:10:29.620 Just like the run down exhaustion, whatever

00:10:31.360 fear sets in of getting sick. The point is, went and got the drip yesterday.

00:10:37.080 I got to tell you today, I'm fine. I'm really fine.

00:10:41.460 Damn. 0.99

00:10:42.140 I know. And I talked to my friend who's a PA, physician's assistant. 0.99

00:10:46.180 Oh, right, right, right.

00:10:46.840 And she said, like, it doesn't.

00:10:47.940 I'm going to start assuming that from now on.

00:10:49.860 Yeah. 0.99

00:10:50.420 Let's clarify if it's a production assistant. I mean, Jesus.

00:10:53.100 PA, physician's assistant. Yeah.

00:10:54.740 I want to know more of the former.

00:10:56.220 Completely. And she said, can't hurt, which is good to hear because I had,

00:11:00.160 whenever I heard people going

00:11:01.760 getting these voluntary IV drips

00:11:03.780 I was like

00:11:04.160 like me

00:11:04.620 well this is

00:11:05.240 and the AC is going insane

00:11:06.640 here's a good snack 1.00

00:11:12.340 for an angry girl 1.00

00:11:13.240 a turkey steak

00:11:15.940 okay wait

00:11:18.280 sorry

00:11:18.840 whatever background noise

00:11:19.860 it's gonna end soon

00:11:20.800 I don't mind a little white noise

00:11:22.360 it's good for the brain

00:11:23.460 for the listener

00:11:24.360 and good for you

00:11:25.780 protein in the morning

00:11:26.780 no I had

00:11:28.060 I had

00:11:28.500 I had two eggs scrambled. Avocado. Interesting. Scrambled. Hotel scrambled. Hotel scrambled.

00:11:35.340 Avocado. That's in a hotel for me. It's, you know, I had like a pretty exceptional stay at the one

00:11:43.880 hotel. And yeah, I begged for a discount. Okay. Did you get it? Yeah. And how notable discount?

00:11:51.220 huge

00:11:52.220 are you serious

00:11:53.220 so much so

00:11:55.020 that I upgraded

00:11:56.040 to

00:11:56.520 like

00:11:57.220 okay what's 1.00

00:11:58.240 because their shit 1.00

00:11:58.840 is 1.00

00:11:59.020 it's expensive

00:12:00.660 and

00:12:01.260 I was like

00:12:02.920 what's you know

00:12:03.800 the cheapest room

00:12:04.680 at the discount

00:12:05.760 and the discount

00:12:06.800 was so good

00:12:07.400 that I'd already made peace

00:12:08.780 with a certain amount

00:12:09.460 in my head

00:12:09.740 was it half off

00:12:10.360 I think it might have been

00:12:11.320 honestly 0.96

00:12:11.720 damn 0.98

00:12:12.700 it was something like that 0.99

00:12:14.020 and

00:12:14.820 I haven't posted the pictures yet

00:12:16.740 which I need to do

00:12:17.660 it's a good reminder

00:12:18.240 oh good well this expired

00:12:18.940 so

00:12:19.520 this turkey stick

00:12:20.720 I made

00:12:20.960 No, no, no. Wait, hold on a second. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Was it in the basket?

00:12:24.260 No, no, no. I bought this four years ago.

00:12:26.400 Fuck, Kate. I'm devastated for you. Okay, I was so excited because I was like, 1.00

00:12:30.040 you've just hit the lotto, bitch. 1.00

00:12:31.780 Not even Best Buy. Expires. 1.00

00:12:36.480 I was so excited. I thought you'd found a fly in your soup. Do you see what I'm saying?

00:12:40.460 Oh, yeah. No, no, no.

00:12:41.560 I immediately dollar signs. I was like, when you call and say there's expired food in my thing.

00:12:47.820 You get something.

00:12:48.580 anyway i had an exceptional stay there and um wait but what did your i know you had said when

00:12:55.680 you're going to get the drip that your your friend the pa i'm sorry she just was like because

00:12:59.740 i was like i've always thought hydration only or whatever she said she was like can't hurt you know

00:13:04.260 it will hydrate your system it's like that yeah you feel better right right it's like great and

00:13:08.520 she's like you know the extra vitamins you'll pee out or whatever you know right and then um

00:13:12.200 right the fear of too much vitamin c but uh yeah i mean what do you want to call it i feel better

00:13:17.520 it is goddamn expensive it is so expensive and when i was there i was like why didn't i go hey

00:13:24.460 i'll talk about it on poo give it to me free please right now what the cheap it's 250 for a 0.80

00:13:30.560 single dose of like immunity boost for their base level immunity boost that's that sounds like

00:13:36.820 highway robbery to me i know shouldn't it be like 45 i mean i would be i i it's like oh and then

00:13:43.340 this and i'm sorry maybe this is gonna get me in trouble but then they go a thing pops up you want

00:13:48.480 to tip your nurse tip my nurse right right this is what i'm paying for i'm paying four thousand

00:13:54.860 dollars for this service it's not like do you know what i mean i thought that was a little

00:14:00.360 egregious you didn't put an air bubble under my skin let me give you an extra 20 percent

00:14:04.780 exactly you didn't kill me it becomes unmedical of course i'm a hardcore tipper across all genres

00:14:12.040 Oh yeah

00:14:12.580 But when you

00:14:13.220 But excuse me

00:14:14.840 Well no you know what this is

00:14:16.260 Like what's offensive about it

00:14:18.020 Is it calls into question

00:14:19.280 And suddenly I'm not tipping a nurse

00:14:20.620 Oh right right

00:14:21.320 Suddenly I'm spitting in the face

00:14:22.560 Of a healthcare worker

00:14:23.540 Yeah yeah

00:14:23.980 Suddenly a first responder

00:14:25.680 Is getting the steel boot

00:14:27.540 Of your non-generosity

00:14:28.980 Exactly

00:14:29.520 It was

00:14:30.340 Oh god

00:14:30.980 You've been implicated

00:14:32.100 You've been implicated as a problem

00:14:33.820 She didn't tip her nurse 0.69

00:14:35.040 Yeah yeah

00:14:36.240 I'm proud of you though

00:14:38.500 For no longer fearing

00:14:39.820 Needles into the vein

00:14:40.720 By a stranger

00:14:41.640 Well, yeah. And again, it's because I'm doing this show seven nights a week. It's like, I just,

00:14:44.940 I have to be extravagant with these things. The justification.

00:14:51.300 Yeah. Yeah. Well, we like, I feel like my family, there's a among like, I don't know,

00:14:55.540 maybe my mother or my aunt or something. I don't know. I feel like something got passed down this

00:14:59.100 kind of as a special treat thing, which is like, you have to designate something as being as a

00:15:04.320 special treat in order to like earn it, recognize that it's not. And it's the best feeling in the

00:15:10.740 world when a special treat is happening versus a new policy. New policy, like, sure. But a special

00:15:16.960 treat, you're enjoying it with a sense of, you know, God can take it back. What do you mean a

00:15:21.800 new policy? Okay, sorry, sorry. I fly sometimes. I fly. I get so excited. So I feel like I've

00:15:26.460 mentioned this on food. But as a kid, sometimes it'd be like, as a special treat, you can eat

00:15:32.260 this in front of the TV. You know, like, it was like, can I eat this in front of the movie kind

00:15:36.840 of thing, you know? And it was like, as a special treat, and then bringing it in and putting the

00:15:39.820 plate on the coffee table and sitting on the ground heaven on fucking earth oh that's so 0.94

00:15:43.840 familiar because i the tv in my house growing up was in my parents room oh yeah i would go into my 0.98

00:15:48.520 parents room at the foot of their bed on the floor rather i would lay out a towel as a tablecloth

00:15:53.280 sit there yes those are some root only child memories what god yeah that actually is what's

00:15:59.180 breaking my heart and here i go yeah here come the tears it comes being a child alone like that's

00:16:04.420 one of the weirdest only child things I'm realizing is ingesting movies alone. Like watching

00:16:10.140 kids movies. Like I'm watching a movie, enjoying it alone with my little meal. And here I am in

00:16:16.440 my hotel room. I think it leads to fresh, unadulterated personal taste. Wow. Wow. You're

00:16:23.540 not being influenced by some hog sibling cackling it up at a trash film. How interesting. 0.98

00:16:30.800 You're not being forced.

00:16:31.300 As usual, you free me.

00:16:32.840 Yeah.

00:16:33.160 It's my great honor.

00:16:34.240 It's my only interest.

00:16:35.100 I see as a huge wound, never to be a hole, never to be filled.

00:16:38.540 You see it as character development.

00:16:41.260 Right.

00:16:41.460 You're settling in for another wound.

00:16:43.940 You're making space.

00:16:44.900 I was settling in for another wound.

00:16:46.680 I did way too deep.

00:16:48.180 I did literally a meditation today that went too deep.

00:16:50.880 Oh, wow.

00:16:51.760 I'm not kidding.

00:16:51.780 It like fucked my day up.

00:16:53.340 Because it was a digging?

00:16:55.300 It was an unearthing kind of meditation?

00:16:56.980 It was guided.

00:16:57.580 and yeah I went in

00:16:58.800 and I went

00:16:59.320 I went oh no

00:17:00.640 but it's taking you

00:17:01.620 to like trauma

00:17:02.240 that you have to heal

00:17:03.400 take a little

00:17:04.480 like going to some 1.00

00:17:05.300 early childhood shit 0.99

00:17:06.540 nothing 0.99

00:17:06.920 and by the way

00:17:07.540 nothing like horrendous

00:17:08.860 just like

00:17:09.360 no yeah

00:17:09.800 dad look the other direction

00:17:10.880 yeah yeah

00:17:11.440 but like

00:17:12.620 that's all it takes

00:17:13.700 no that's all it takes

00:17:16.160 um

00:17:16.860 but wait

00:17:17.680 sorry wait

00:17:18.680 no no

00:17:19.060 you on the

00:17:19.640 on the floor

00:17:20.200 I wanted to stay with

00:17:21.160 because

00:17:21.680 me on the floor

00:17:22.360 yeah watching

00:17:23.040 the towel 1.00

00:17:23.560 well I used to like

00:17:25.020 I used to do this thing

00:17:26.180 because I was

00:17:27.480 my siblings were older like teenagers when I was still a kid it was like if they were like fighting

00:17:32.680 at the dinner table or something with their parents like teenager kind of fights you know

00:17:35.720 what I mean like I couldn't stand it like while I was eating so I would stand the fuck up okay

00:17:41.360 yeah take my plate and go I will not eat like this and march out okay and carry my plate up to my

00:17:47.740 room or into the dining room and sit there like my fork stabbing the plate like okay and so I still

00:17:52.900 believe that when I feel the stress of people fighting or and even feel my own anger yeah I

00:18:01.080 feel most like an angry kind of stabbing eating feels like familiar like right to me it's in there

00:18:08.060 deep my mother if she listens I hope she can handle it there's no no one escapes childhood

00:18:15.100 without like you know you don't arrive an adult like there's no one to blame no there's no one

00:18:21.280 to blame it's just a particularity of mine it's kind of interesting pulling those out but yes

00:18:27.580 eating on the towel is one of the finest memories to me the other is my parents had friends over

00:18:34.320 for dinner a dinner party like like i remember me and my brother i have to stay in my mother's

00:18:41.000 my parents room but then my mother brings up throughout the night like treats horses essentially

00:18:46.420 okay that right there is so interesting because my parents entertained constantly

00:18:50.380 but I was at the table

00:18:52.140 well there we go again

00:18:53.840 born in 35

00:18:54.540 born stiff

00:18:55.440 or holding court

00:18:56.800 and never anything in between

00:18:59.660 I was either

00:19:00.620 completely

00:19:01.840 like I remember my mother

00:19:02.680 bringing up once

00:19:03.480 two bowls of gazpacho

00:19:04.880 and

00:19:05.580 whoa

00:19:05.960 yeah there was a period

00:19:08.000 in the 90s

00:19:08.900 where like

00:19:09.320 yeah like we like

00:19:10.740 it was like gazpacho

00:19:11.680 food and wine

00:19:11.700 like all summer long

00:19:12.820 yeah

00:19:13.720 it's fun

00:19:14.680 but

00:19:16.540 sort of indoor

00:19:18.720 picnic

00:19:20.140 there was a time in New York in that apartment where you and me ordered um where you came over

00:19:25.300 and ordered um pinkberry it was like we can order in pinkberry there's a key memory for us I was

00:19:31.100 actually laughing to myself I know and it's worth a revisit okay because not everyone can head to

00:19:36.500 the back it's one of like I really have so few memories and it's like one of the only indelible

00:19:41.060 memories of my life I can feel that apartment everything yeah yeah because that apartment it

00:19:46.840 was it was hell's kitchen no bathroom it was like a true hell's kitchen like tenement tub in the

00:19:52.860 kitchen bathroom down the hall and by the hall i mean oh yeah hall and it had um paper mache

00:19:59.180 on the inside of the bathroom do you remember the walls you have to remember oh oh oh like um

00:20:04.520 like decoupage yeah decoupage yeah like a million like like magazines but it's like so so i'd like

00:20:09.780 run barefoot down the hall you know like past a couple neighbors it was sensational it was

00:20:14.540 sensational unbelievable meanwhile like you know like still probably like i don't i can't remember

00:20:18.460 what you're paying but like it wasn't like nothing new york city i know of course and they were trying

00:20:22.740 to like they were trying to like edge people out of the building i think so they could sell it or

00:20:26.080 something there's kind of like influence people and so like the heat was really questionable

00:20:30.340 sometimes like like like it was like dead of winter and there was no heat yeah i'm really

00:20:35.300 trying to reach out to whoever like can't reach the people to even and like they they know like

00:20:39.260 they've done it you know what i mean yeah and i remember this one time this is just pick you said

00:20:42.940 towel on the blanket. It reminded me. And so we like did the pullout couch. Like I built like a

00:20:48.380 sort of fort, like a tent over is when we're freezing over the pullout couch. And then like

00:20:55.500 got in there. So it'd be like our body heat would warm up the tent. We were inside, inside of our

00:21:00.740 place. Got food, obviously. Got warm food. Yeah. Brought it in. And then I downloaded an app

00:21:08.140 and it was, are you ready for this? You know, Coleman lanterns. Can't you kind of see it? Like

00:21:12.420 a camping lantern

00:21:13.020 in Coleman

00:21:13.480 I downloaded the Coleman lantern app

00:21:15.820 and then

00:21:17.240 I lit us

00:21:18.820 me and Chris

00:21:20.660 by like

00:21:21.200 by a digital lantern

00:21:22.300 we ate like

00:21:23.600 warm food in there

00:21:24.700 and it was during the day

00:21:25.920 but it was dark

00:21:27.280 because it was like

00:21:28.160 freezing during the day

00:21:29.520 oh god

00:21:32.800 I mean

00:21:33.320 ecstasy

00:21:34.500 I'm having like

00:21:35.680 debilitating PMS

00:21:38.220 yeah something was

00:21:40.160 clearly creeping in

00:21:41.280 because you were unable to be

00:21:42.200 You're going to be spirited away by this vision.

00:21:44.820 No, I'm having deep emotional.

00:21:46.860 I mean, just emotions, which would probably be here without it, but just it's amplified.

00:21:53.320 And I'm considering, hey, maybe I won't leave my bathrobe at all today.

00:21:57.500 Yeah.

00:21:58.200 And I'm considering maybe I'll room service cheeseburger.

00:22:01.500 Yes.

00:22:02.060 You know?

00:22:02.380 So if you're premenstrual, okay, I'm going to send you a couple screen grabs from a couple books.

00:22:08.580 Okay.

00:22:08.780 I'm going to reframe the premenstrual phase of the four phases in the cycle.

00:22:14.160 Okay.

00:22:14.860 And this is the creative phase. 0.99

00:22:17.740 I have to get a fucking manicure though. 0.99

00:22:21.060 Because you're tired of looking at your fingers. 1.00

00:22:23.820 I just have to.

00:22:25.020 Yeah.

00:22:25.360 Well.

00:22:27.700 I'm going to find the strength to do it.

00:22:32.480 That was real.

00:22:33.640 I know it was.

00:22:35.020 Okay.

00:22:35.140 I know what's funny.

00:22:35.960 There's a place I saw that's around the corner.

00:22:38.060 You can see it down from your window.

00:22:39.020 Yeah, essentially.

00:22:39.880 I mean, it's right there.

00:22:40.860 And it looks gorgeous.

00:22:41.460 Do you have a warm coat?

00:22:42.360 It looks like an airplane hanger.

00:22:43.480 Oh, yeah.

00:22:44.080 Okay, so all you have to do—

00:22:45.180 It's not even cold today.

00:22:46.560 Yeah.

00:22:47.100 Okay, so all you have to do is—

00:22:49.120 Do you have any slip-on shoes that aren't like the whole thing?

00:22:51.940 Oh, well, guess what happened the other day?

00:22:53.820 I was running around the corner to grab something,

00:22:56.160 and I didn't put on jeans.

00:22:58.560 I put on—

00:22:59.100 This is what I'm talking about.

00:23:00.320 Basically pajama pants.

00:23:01.180 Okay, good.

00:23:01.740 I was in them, and I was like,

00:23:03.500 I have a long coat that goes like to the ground.

00:23:05.600 I was like, so no one can see these pants.

00:23:07.140 Yeah.

00:23:08.060 I go out. I'm walking. I go, holy shit. Because I'm completely like anti, like I will not wear

00:23:14.980 sweatpants in public. Yeah. Essentially under any circumstance. You femme fuck. No, it's just like

00:23:20.140 a real woman. Okay. I really, I mean, of course, if I'm like, I'll wear like a track pant. Well, 0.96

00:23:26.700 I know on a plane. On the plane, you wore the Adam Selman. Yeah, yeah, totally. So I'm like

00:23:31.940 planes, like that's different. All right. Well, that's something. Thank God. Anyway, I wore them

00:23:37.000 around the corner and I was like walking and I was shocked by how comfortable I was by the cozy 0.87

00:23:44.420 yeah comfort I was like oh I understand my people do no one can see shit yeah I mean I was again 0.70

00:23:49.540 exactly they were my dirty little secret but I was like moved no it's it's coziness

00:23:55.620 it my really good friend Deirdre she was just really made me laugh she was like

00:24:00.540 I am going to this week she's like put on real clothing okay

00:24:07.060 Like, first thing in the morning.

00:24:09.320 She's like, and I'm like, is that really necessary?

00:24:11.120 And then she's like, but it's about, like, taking the kids to school and, like, picking them up or something.

00:24:15.560 She's like, I will not.

00:24:17.120 She's like, or am I just, is it just over?

00:24:20.620 Am I just the mother in the winter coat and the pajama pants?

00:24:25.220 Like, it was like, you know what I mean?

00:24:26.800 Like, it was just this reckoning.

00:24:29.140 And I was like, okay, fair enough, fair enough.

00:24:31.700 All right, interesting.

00:24:32.940 But this is what I'm talking about, Kate.

00:24:35.060 I mean, this is like, I've thought about this a little bit, how I haven't shared all of my sort of depression get by in the world tips, like on this podcast, where they would probably be like most useful versus like my book, and I didn't even get them all in.

00:24:48.560 but like things like that

00:24:50.220 like where you can like

00:24:51.100 where you can reduce

00:24:52.780 energy expenditure

00:24:53.980 but harmlessly

00:24:55.080 like I enjoy

00:24:56.840 like solving those problems

00:24:57.700 so like one

00:24:58.180 I don't remember

00:24:58.740 if people have heard this before

00:24:59.740 but when you don't feel like

00:25:01.160 the real energy

00:25:02.480 when sudsing up in the shower

00:25:04.620 is just too much

00:25:05.500 uh-huh

00:25:06.420 like sudsing up your

00:25:07.480 I love to shower

00:25:07.920 showering

00:25:08.460 sudsing up in the shower

00:25:09.420 I mean to me

00:25:09.920 by the way you just said

00:25:10.820 the word shower

00:25:11.380 I was like well

00:25:11.800 that's what's going to free me

00:25:12.780 yes

00:25:13.660 no I was

00:25:14.540 I mean and I was putting this

00:25:15.700 out to the listener

00:25:16.520 I wasn't just solving you

00:25:17.920 at the moment

00:25:18.340 I'm sorry I'm sorry no I'm explaining why because I wouldn't have pitched that to you

00:25:22.460 but you're just saying suds I was like absolutely okay like I just the shower is well yeah well

00:25:28.200 you know I'm taking a drink into the shower you know that's always been big for me yeah

00:25:33.500 what's gonna happen a little you text me like I'm sorry I'm texting from the shower I'm always

00:25:37.900 most of the time there's typos you're like sorry I'm in last night last night when we were texting

00:25:42.520 I was in the shower and the water droplets it's not typos because like I'm trying to like I'm

00:25:47.420 Leaning out of the shower.

00:25:48.700 It's in there with me.

00:25:49.580 It's waterproof.

00:25:50.340 Yeah.

00:25:51.880 So for me, sometimes getting the shampoo to mix with the water, okay, to do a good job.

00:25:57.500 Or to create the suds.

00:25:58.820 Yeah.

00:25:59.120 It takes effort. 0.95

00:26:00.840 And so for the person dealing with depression or low energy or whatever the fuck, little 0.98

00:26:07.020 tip I have, big bottle. 0.98

00:26:08.920 You have to do it once, but then it'll carry you through the showers for weeks. 0.95

00:26:12.020 Big ass bottle, like a jumbo. 0.99

00:26:14.560 Put shampoo in it. 0.99

00:26:16.140 Put water in it. 0.99

00:26:17.420 shake that shit up and then it's ready to go as a pre-sudzed foam. 0.99

00:26:24.740 You mean so you just go and dry? 1.00

00:26:26.840 No, you wet your hair down in the shower still.

00:26:30.680 But it's not gel consistency of shampoo that you're then working through your hair.

00:26:35.520 It's become a foam.

00:26:36.360 Assuming when literally just having the gel in your hands and working it into the scalp is too much.

00:26:40.660 And not so much the working it into the scalp, but the needing it to mix with the water and foam up.

00:26:46.260 like that process so this is like that's pre-mixed you go in you let the water cover and soak your

00:26:53.560 head and then you take this bottle of pre-mixed water and shampoo and you pour it tons of it you

00:26:59.320 pour it over and it's all it's already suds and and you don't have to do much except for you know

00:27:05.800 massage massage and then so that's one of my tips another one you ready yeah let's go okay i just

00:27:11.200 think this could save a lot. So I just want to get it out. So the other one is like, this might

00:27:16.320 even be a little bit more of like, this is kind of like ADD, I think, slash depression. Okay.

00:27:20.600 When the executive functioning required of a shower, going through all the different tasks

00:27:26.000 and hitting them all feels like too much. Okay. You essentially apply the items before you get

00:27:34.700 in. Okay. So it'd be like this. It'd be like you're outside of the shower. You take a little

00:27:39.440 shower gel. You rub it onto your armpits, let's say, and a few other key points. Okay, you choose,

00:27:45.360 right? You take a dab of face cleanser, okay, or maybe better yet, balm. Wipe some onto the forehead.

00:27:55.040 Okay, let's say you don't have the shampoo bottle thing ready. Dump some shampoo onto your dry hair,

00:28:00.700 okay? Let's just say, so those are the key things, right? Body wash, face wash, hair. You get into the

00:28:09.440 The product's already applied.

00:28:11.160 It's just about now adding water.

00:28:12.900 I see.

00:28:13.160 I see.

00:28:13.760 Okay.

00:28:14.140 It's already located on your body.

00:28:15.920 This is big.

00:28:16.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:28:17.560 You have one moment of executive functioning before you get in.

00:28:21.300 Put the thing, put the thing, put the thing.

00:28:22.600 And then you just get in there and let the water essentially do the rest.

00:28:26.420 Wow. 0.97

00:28:27.140 It's amazing the way this isn't fucking blowing your mind. 0.98

00:28:29.940 It's amazing. 0.95

00:28:32.200 I have such a...

00:28:34.040 Being in water is, I mean, I would spend the whole day in the shower.

00:28:40.160 Which is what I do.

00:28:40.980 But the point is, you're not then hammered, you're not then hamstrung,

00:28:45.680 I've been struggling with this for weeks, hamstrung, by the tasks.

00:28:50.940 So do you ever get, so sitting down in the shower, a huge one, okay?

00:28:53.980 Yeah.

00:28:54.260 Okay, I'd like to do it.

00:28:57.060 If you're going to sit down in the shower and just let the shower take you away,

00:28:59.660 do you do all the tasks first

00:29:02.820 get them out of the way

00:29:04.740 and then sit down in the shower

00:29:07.080 and just take it in

00:29:08.360 or do you like just get in the shower

00:29:09.960 like collapse down

00:29:11.280 and then

00:29:12.640 do it all down there

00:29:14.140 well I've done that

00:29:15.400 yeah

00:29:15.740 do it all seated

00:29:16.660 and then we return to Churchill

00:29:19.120 known depressive

00:29:20.940 who said

00:29:22.400 why stamina you can sit

00:29:24.420 only took baths

00:29:26.000 right right

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00:34:10.680 You know what I was thinking the other day?

00:34:11.940 I was like, I was like imagining us on Pooh

00:34:13.360 and I was imagining just being like,

00:34:14.620 being like,

00:34:15.700 Kate,

00:34:15.900 I'm in the mood

00:34:16.300 to like solve problems.

00:34:17.320 Give me some.

00:34:19.760 Like I was just thinking

00:34:20.580 about that as like a thing.

00:34:21.680 Like I get like joy out of.

00:34:24.280 Like I want to free you. 1.00

00:34:25.180 Give me something shit 1.00

00:34:25.800 to free you. 1.00

00:34:26.540 Let's play like a vice column.

00:34:27.720 Anything.

00:34:28.600 I'm looking around.

00:34:29.580 Just for Kate.

00:34:30.300 So like scream out your

00:34:31.480 like scream out your like

00:34:32.780 your raw like

00:34:33.960 like nightmares right now.

00:34:35.580 You know what I'm saying?

00:34:36.480 I mean, no,

00:34:36.900 they're too personal.

00:34:37.840 Right, right.

00:34:38.200 But can you like ground them

00:34:39.180 to like,

00:34:39.720 you know,

00:34:41.660 well, have we solved you

00:34:43.260 getting to the manicurist?

00:34:44.620 no okay this is good i asked about the slip-on shoes do you have like a slip-on shoe i have

00:34:49.080 do they require socks yes okay i mean not technically but yes question yeah question

00:34:55.640 do i shower this is key after so okay a couple issues major issue here hunger i'm hungry okay

00:35:02.940 so here are the things i had okay this is great i'm hungry i'm naked i'm in the bathroom but

00:35:09.200 I'm hungry, I'm naked, I need to shower, I need to get a manicure.

00:35:15.700 There's one other thing I have to do, but that's a task I can off-source to someone.

00:35:20.680 You can outsource to a remote location.

00:35:25.700 I have to be, it's 1.30.

00:35:28.940 You have to leave by.

00:35:30.240 Okay, well, here's what it is.

00:35:31.540 It's 1.30.

00:35:32.680 I need to be dressed, showered, emotionally ready to perform by 5.30.

00:35:40.180 All right, hold on.

00:35:40.640 It's 1.30.

00:35:41.340 It's 1.30.

00:35:41.940 I'm making a note.

00:35:42.540 This is really exciting.

00:35:43.120 I already feel the light.

00:35:44.080 I already feel light coming.

00:35:45.260 And I feel like I feel safety.

00:35:46.620 Okay, listen.

00:35:47.300 2.30, 3.30, 4.30, 5.30.

00:35:49.360 Okay, we got one, two, three, four hours.

00:35:51.460 Very short walk to the theater.

00:35:52.760 Okay, we got four hours.

00:35:53.760 Okay, that's a lot.

00:35:55.420 And let's go wild and say, guess what could actually perhaps make me happy is the walk

00:36:01.060 to go do the other errand.

00:36:02.140 The other errand might actually contain joy.

00:36:06.160 And the other errand is a 15-minute walk.

00:36:08.880 There and back or on the way?

00:36:10.380 Thank you.

00:36:11.240 Both ways.

00:36:12.520 15 either direction.

00:36:14.220 Both directions.

00:36:14.680 Okay.

00:36:14.980 It is in no way part of the walk to the theater, right?

00:36:18.380 It can't be included.

00:36:19.200 No, no way.

00:36:19.660 Okay.

00:36:19.940 No, can't be included.

00:36:21.100 Okay.

00:36:21.500 So we got a 30-minute there and back.

00:36:24.120 So shower, manicure, potential walk, food. 1.00

00:36:26.920 No, bitch. 1.00

00:36:27.240 These are the things. 1.00

00:36:28.060 Oh, sorry.

00:36:28.660 I thought you were ordering them.

00:36:29.740 Okay.

00:36:30.060 No, no, no, no.

00:36:30.600 I just mean those are my issues.

00:36:32.140 All right. Here's what you need. All right. One, the only way that you can survive the time between

00:36:37.120 now and the food is with a drink to carry you. Okay. I have water here. That's not enough.

00:36:42.640 There's no joy there. I have a spindrift in the fridge. Okay. Do you enjoy those?

00:36:47.220 It's my special treat. But listen, I gave up sugar in the morning. No, no, no, no. It's not

00:36:55.580 that. It's seltzer. So I used to drink 14 liters of seltzer a fucking day. Is it because of that

00:37:00.420 article or whatever? No, honey, it's because of my colonicist, honey. Wait, you're a colonicist?

00:37:06.040 Really? Well, yeah. Is that what they're called? I love that. I don't know. Yeah, I guess so. I

00:37:10.640 mean, I kind of made it up. It's gorgeous. Colonic. It's like, what if, well, you know,

00:37:18.040 it'd be horrible. Colonista. I wouldn't drink so much seltzer. Yeah. My colonista said, she was

00:37:22.720 like, by the way, also the heavy metals in the cans, whatever. But she was like, you might not

00:37:27.000 want to be drinking so much seltzer and i remember she said to me as a special treat and i almost

00:37:31.920 flew off the table in rage like i will never be someone who a special treat is seltzer

00:37:35.760 like no a special treat for me i'm feeling really dirty you know like yeah when i'm feeling really

00:37:44.160 bad like a special treat for me is spending four hours at a steakhouse and like get crawling out

00:37:51.260 on my hands and knees like i'm not a seltzer is not you know what i just felt like crawling out

00:37:56.200 your hands and knees so full, right? You can't even scream to the gods above. Like you can't

00:38:00.420 crank your neck upward. All you can do is drop your head forward and call to the devil.

00:38:04.320 Yeah, yeah. Getting home and going, didn't need two martinis, you know?

00:38:12.840 Yes.

00:38:13.460 Stripping off my clothes, pounding a coconut water, hitting the mattress.

00:38:17.900 I have to decide at this point.

00:38:19.680 I actually haven't had a martini in a minute. I love them, but my tolerance is so low.

00:38:23.860 And I'm just, I have to decide if it's like when I eat the olive because, or the, you

00:38:29.420 know, Jesus too, if they, if they want to honor me, it's like, I almost wonder if I

00:38:34.060 need to remove the olive entirely.

00:38:35.620 Two olives is bad luck.

00:38:36.040 It's three.

00:38:36.840 Two olives is a curse.

00:38:37.980 Oh, right.

00:38:38.400 Three or.

00:38:39.200 Well, I'm just picturing.

00:38:40.040 Any serious place will give you three. 0.99

00:38:41.620 But when they're huge, you know, sometimes I feel like they just give you fucking one 0.98

00:38:45.140 maybe. 0.99

00:38:45.860 Yeah.

00:38:46.140 Or people do that.

00:38:47.000 They love to play that game.

00:38:47.900 But two is bad luck.

00:38:49.000 Okay.

00:38:49.440 I think one is like, shame on you.

00:38:52.060 Right. 0.96

00:38:52.760 Two, you curse my family. 0.93

00:38:55.140 Three. 0.97

00:38:55.640 Three.

00:38:56.040 How's it going, honey?

00:38:57.340 See you next week?

00:38:58.020 I was trying to think of something that matched with three.

00:38:59.640 Oh.

00:38:59.960 Or rhymed.

00:39:00.760 Okay.

00:39:01.380 Three.

00:39:01.960 Glee.

00:39:02.620 Three.

00:39:03.440 For me?

00:39:04.800 Oh, God.

00:39:06.360 I'm absolutely retiring.

00:39:07.760 So.

00:39:08.020 Okay.

00:39:08.300 So.

00:39:09.440 Help.

00:39:10.040 The question is, I just have to decide.

00:39:12.620 I don't like that the martini becomes an experience where I'm spacing out olives.

00:39:16.860 And then the martini itself, you know, the liquid of the martini becomes this punishment

00:39:21.040 between olives.

00:39:21.720 So I'm like, let's get real.

00:39:23.260 If I don't like a martini without the olives.

00:39:26.760 Like, I mean, without the experience of eating them.

00:39:28.520 I don't mean the flavor they impart.

00:39:29.660 So let's say you were imparting the drink with the olive.

00:39:32.860 You take it out. 0.99

00:39:33.980 If I don't like that fucking drink, what am I doing? 0.99

00:39:36.840 Without the olives. 1.00

00:39:37.740 Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

00:39:38.920 You're so right.

00:39:39.900 It's like the way vanilla ice cream becomes trash that you're trying to get through to get to the cookie.

00:39:46.780 Chocolate.

00:39:47.420 Like the way toppings or not to, you know, the way...

00:39:51.720 I was going to try to say Ben and Jerry's

00:39:54.800 and I started to say Jerry Maguire.

00:39:58.600 Like Ben and Jerry's, like, okay,

00:40:00.220 like you're eating like something with...

00:40:02.880 Jerry Maguire and Ben's.

00:40:04.500 Jerry Maguire and Ben's.

00:40:06.180 Ben and Jerry Maguire.

00:40:08.040 Where's that?

00:40:08.600 Jerry Maguire and Ben's.

00:40:09.860 Flavor, I'm retiring.

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00:44:27.220 Alright, so what was the third thing you have?

00:44:29.520 A green juice? Again, joyless.

00:44:31.280 Okay, these are the drinks at my disposal. I have this huge jug of water.

00:44:33.340 I know what you really want.

00:44:34.320 I have a spindrift.

00:44:35.180 You want an oat milk latte?

00:44:37.080 No, so I made an extra coffee right before we sat down.

00:44:39.840 Well, that's something.

00:44:40.640 But I'm talking about getting you.

00:44:41.940 So, okay.

00:44:43.160 I'm hungry.

00:44:44.420 That's what I'm saying.

00:44:45.280 That needs to come first.

00:44:47.020 That's the first.

00:44:47.760 Or it needs to be the thing that lures you.

00:44:51.160 Out into the world.

00:44:52.440 Yes.

00:44:52.780 So I'm saying you need to lock in on where you're going to have your lunch.

00:44:56.720 Is it near the manicure place?

00:44:58.640 Okay.

00:44:59.300 But you are not going to that manicure and sitting there consumptionless.

00:45:02.840 no I know that's what you need so you either need to eat the food first or you need a pleasurable

00:45:09.400 drink sitting next to you the manicure which you you know when she's doing the left hand you sneak

00:45:15.940 a little sip I think I'm arriving at looking at the room service menu and or delivery which is

00:45:25.340 probably going to be cheaper well I have a great idea yeah the shower whoa whoa whoa that's my

00:45:31.060 the shower and the food delivery eating partially are one experience and they're one of the great

00:45:41.440 experiences okay that's what i'm gonna do look at the smile on my face yeah you've seen this

00:45:45.640 scene to play out in television movies okay the shower is running the order's in okay the door 0.99

00:45:51.700 knocks no okay a woman this is good okay in the hotel this is like a scene from fucking 0.70

00:46:00.260 No, but actually here, 0.98

00:46:01.140 I have to just say something.

00:46:02.080 I have to put in to say.

00:46:03.660 So the room service here has been quite quick.

00:46:06.180 So I can't put the,

00:46:07.460 if I put the order in,

00:46:08.800 get in the shower.

00:46:09.500 You can't get in the shower.

00:46:10.460 No, I know.

00:46:11.720 I think it's more like,

00:46:13.800 well, it depends how long you want your shower to be.

00:46:16.080 All right.

00:46:16.440 Here's what it is.

00:46:17.180 20 minute shower.

00:46:17.940 You strip down.

00:46:19.000 Hopefully you're already like naked.

00:46:20.540 Nothing.

00:46:21.060 Okay.

00:46:21.260 But you're only in a bathrobe.

00:46:22.720 Okay, great.

00:46:23.820 Sockless in your bathrobe.

00:46:25.440 Ready to go.

00:46:26.680 Okay.

00:46:27.080 Okay. Now, do you have to do any detangling before you get in the shower? You know what I'm saying?

00:46:31.440 I do it in the shower.

00:46:32.660 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, you're good there. Is your brush ready?

00:46:35.820 Brush is in there.

00:46:36.520 Your comb ready? Okay. So, all your ingredients are in there.

00:46:40.740 Okay.

00:46:41.000 Yeah. The ingredients are in there for the stew.

00:46:42.240 All right. So, you are going to order that food.

00:46:48.980 Okay.

00:46:50.020 Okay.

00:46:51.140 Maybe I can take the shower while the food's getting prepared. I can. I've decided.

00:46:54.240 Well, I got news for you. Ask for an estimate.

00:46:56.400 Do I mention the shower on the phone?

00:46:58.920 This is what I'm saying.

00:47:00.400 Yes, in this case.

00:47:01.840 Okay, because you don't want them thinking you're asking

00:47:04.160 because you want it now and you want a lie.

00:47:07.340 You want to hear it's 15 when it's really 25.

00:47:10.080 Instead, you want to go,

00:47:10.840 I'm just deciding whether I want to shower now or after.

00:47:12.960 When do you think it'll come?

00:47:13.660 Can I tell you a room service story

00:47:16.120 for the history books that happened to me here?

00:47:18.580 Yeah.

00:47:19.620 Came home after my show, ravenously hungry,

00:47:22.700 picked up the phone, called,

00:47:24.300 here's my order, click.

00:47:26.400 They call back very soon.

00:47:28.200 I'm so sorry.

00:47:28.820 The restaurant is so slammed.

00:47:29.800 It's looking like it's going to be an hour.

00:47:31.260 Yeah.

00:47:31.500 Is that okay?

00:47:32.140 Yeah.

00:47:32.680 And I said, you know what?

00:47:34.720 I'm going to go ahead and cancel that.

00:47:36.900 I hang up.

00:47:37.740 I order delivery.

00:47:39.340 I would say, oh, I don't know.

00:47:41.280 Ten minutes later, my door knocks.

00:47:43.240 I open it.

00:47:44.060 There's the room service meal.

00:47:47.080 Okay.

00:47:47.780 I go, oh, to the person delivering.

00:47:50.020 I was like, oh, my God.

00:47:51.160 I actually canceled this.

00:47:53.680 And he was like, oh.

00:47:55.500 I was like, sorry, they said it was going to be an hour.

00:47:57.360 So I canceled it.

00:47:58.400 And I said, oh, and he's kind of starts to turn.

00:48:00.020 I go, but what's going to happen to the food?

00:48:02.400 Well, yeah.

00:48:03.000 And I was like, I mean, I am starving.

00:48:05.360 And he was like.

00:48:06.020 The answer is clear.

00:48:06.720 Yeah.

00:48:06.840 He was like, just take it.

00:48:07.860 Like, I'll tell them, you know, to cancel it, that it was canceled.

00:48:10.440 Of course.

00:48:11.500 So I, like the glee of a child who fooled Santa. 1.00

00:48:15.280 Yeah, you fucking fooled Santa. 0.99

00:48:16.720 I get onto the bed, rip off the silver hat on the food. 0.99

00:48:22.340 There it is.

00:48:22.840 Eat it.

00:48:23.680 Thrill.

00:48:24.160 Silver hat.

00:48:24.600 I don't even want the delivery.

00:48:25.840 The delivery arrives.

00:48:27.240 And I go, you know what?

00:48:28.520 You got two for one.

00:48:30.380 I ate a little bit of that one too.

00:48:32.340 Put that in the fridge for lunch.

00:48:33.380 You were unable to summon the strength to eat both.

00:48:36.520 No, wait, hold on a second.

00:48:37.840 I mean, technically, if you ordered properly,

00:48:39.880 then I guess that would be the case.

00:48:41.620 But it would be hard for me not to summon the strength.

00:48:44.000 But unless it truly was the kind of thing

00:48:46.140 that could be saved for a lunch.

00:48:48.360 I never saved for lunch.

00:48:49.820 I mean, I just, I don't know.

00:48:50.880 I just do my best.

00:48:51.760 I throw myself at and against the food that's in front of me.

00:48:55.820 Yeah, I saved for lunch.

00:48:57.000 Do you know what it was?

00:48:57.760 I'm just curious what you saved for lunch.

00:49:00.680 Yeah, it was the salad that they brought me.

00:49:04.180 It's this really good big salad that has, and it had shrimp on the side.

00:49:07.980 All right, perfect for lunch, frankly, in a traditional sense.

00:49:10.840 No, that was my dinner.

00:49:11.540 Oh.

00:49:12.280 That was my dinner.

00:49:13.780 And then it looks like sunchokes, goat cheese, whatever.

00:49:16.720 It's a big salad. 0.99

00:49:17.200 and then the thing i ordered was a you know god think of just goat cheese the fucking 0.96

00:49:24.420 tartness of goat cheese so i'm usually goat cheese is not what i want but but with this salad 0.94

00:49:32.920 i'll do it because you know there must have always been crumbled goat cheese right but i feel like

00:49:38.440 when it became a part of my life no it's it's a it's a dream okay feta well sheep smoke feta as

00:49:43.740 my vote is spectacular but it ain't as tart as goat okay true this salad has pear and goat cheese

00:49:51.200 i've lost it might be my lunch yeah i'm talking about it uh i've lost delight in fruit and salad

00:49:56.700 i have a very strong it needs to be a hard fruit right hard fruits only asian pear right um

00:50:03.620 a crisp fuji apple like a you know watercress seasonal fennel something like that sure i don't

00:50:11.540 want soft fruits and salads under any

00:50:13.640 peach you mean? And I repeat

00:50:15.240 any circumstance. I just

00:50:17.660 it's gone for me. I'll take a Fuyu persimmon

00:50:19.760 in the fall in the salad.

00:50:22.960 Right.

00:50:24.000 Persimmon. Wait.

00:50:25.680 But a Fuyu specifically which are the ones

00:50:27.640 yeah. Yeah. I mean

00:50:29.100 crisp. I mean someone serves it to me

00:50:31.720 it's just but I just mean it makes it

00:50:33.720 feel less meal like to me. I don't

00:50:35.740 know. I don't know. But

00:50:37.280 I just want to say something. So I feel like in the 90s

00:50:39.840 um

00:50:41.040 or like

00:50:42.200 I also want to say

00:50:42.720 right now I'm too hungry

00:50:43.440 for a salad

00:50:43.940 continue

00:50:44.260 yeah

00:50:44.660 well there's that

00:50:45.800 I mean I assumed

00:50:46.560 that wasn't going to be

00:50:47.260 all you got

00:50:47.840 because

00:50:48.320 that ain't going to

00:50:49.420 fill the well

00:50:50.060 no

00:50:51.100 and I'm looking here

00:50:51.820 it's called hot food

00:50:52.780 ever heard of it

00:50:53.720 I mean it's like

00:50:54.480 you know what I mean

00:50:55.500 oh

00:50:55.800 a hot meal

00:50:56.560 I know

00:50:57.160 I used to warm up

00:50:58.680 my cat's like

00:50:59.540 food

00:51:00.080 like my cat

00:51:00.920 that was

00:51:01.300 like really

00:51:02.360 like she was like 23

00:51:03.300 you know

00:51:03.840 her final year

00:51:04.560 and like for the last

00:51:06.040 number of years

00:51:06.480 like certainly

00:51:07.340 I warm up her

00:51:08.400 fancy feast

00:51:09.400 and yeah 1.00

00:51:09.900 Yeah, I know Fancy Beast isn't a quality food, but she lived to 23. 1.00

00:51:13.160 My parents' cat eats Fancy Beast. 0.88

00:51:13.940 Okay, and it worked.

00:51:16.140 So, you know what I mean?

00:51:17.060 I wasn't going to take her cigarettes away from her at 103.

00:51:20.360 No.

00:51:20.720 You know what I mean?

00:51:21.340 No, of course not. 1.00

00:51:22.920 She was un-fucking-believable. 0.95

00:51:24.560 And so I'd warm it up to encourage her eating, you know, the whole thing. 0.95

00:51:30.360 And I always like saying, I go, if anyone deserves a hot meal in this house, it's her.

00:51:35.660 Really fun line to just say. 0.98

00:51:37.680 Yeah.

00:51:37.960 Yeah, a hot meal.

00:51:39.900 No, a hot meal.

00:51:40.720 Even you just saying a hot meal right now is doing something to me.

00:51:42.900 So I think I'm looking at the menu.

00:51:45.240 It's a bit limited, but I'm thinking I have had the burger here and it was quite good.

00:51:49.480 Is there cheese on it?

00:51:51.040 Of course.

00:51:52.120 What kind is offered?

00:51:53.320 People that don't want cheese on a burger, I don't know.

00:51:55.880 Well, it's a different thing.

00:51:56.740 I mean, unless, of course, you can't tolerate it or whatever.

00:51:58.480 But just the idea of being able to tolerate the cheese and not wanting it, I just don't understand.

00:52:03.460 You know what I've discovered?

00:52:04.800 Well, yeah, go on.

00:52:06.300 I want to hear what else is on the burger.

00:52:08.660 Okay, here's the description.

00:52:10.980 Again, honey, it's good.

00:52:12.320 I have another burger story about this specific burger.

00:52:15.540 Okay, wait.

00:52:16.680 Pressed brioche.

00:52:17.520 Okay.

00:52:18.980 Raclette.

00:52:20.680 Caramelized onions.

00:52:21.680 Caramelized onions, okay.

00:52:22.760 And fries.

00:52:23.300 And the fries are really good.

00:52:24.240 Give me centimeter diameter.

00:52:25.900 Okay, so here's the thing.

00:52:26.760 Ordinarily, I would think I was a little thick for my taste.

00:52:29.140 Pushing towards steak fry.

00:52:30.000 But they're exciting.

00:52:30.740 They're kind of like pens.

00:52:32.420 I know I've got pens on them.

00:52:33.980 But it's like a side of pens.

00:52:36.140 They're long. 0.99

00:52:37.140 Damn, and straight? 0.99

00:52:37.940 They're not thin. 0.99

00:52:38.940 Yeah.

00:52:39.140 They're like quite straight.

00:52:40.100 They're not super thin.

00:52:41.060 They're exceptionally crispy.

00:52:42.660 They do a very good job.

00:52:43.300 Now we're talking about a TWSBI eco size or...

00:52:46.460 Actually, yeah.

00:52:47.020 Kind of like that and a little bit smaller.

00:52:49.400 But here's the thing about the fries.

00:52:51.100 They're thick enough that there's like probably 15 of them.

00:52:54.280 But it's still...

00:52:54.840 Do you know what I mean?

00:52:55.500 Like they're like...

00:52:56.800 Yeah.

00:52:57.600 Well, you know what's weird about fries?

00:52:59.360 They can't come in infinite shapes.

00:53:02.500 Okay?

00:53:03.060 I mean, well, you'll see what I mean.

00:53:05.260 You can't do anything with a fry because here's the thing.

00:53:07.940 you have to utilize the material of one potato.

00:53:11.800 You can't have a 10-foot fry

00:53:14.540 unless you can carve 10 feet,

00:53:17.100 unless you can cut a path through a single potato.

00:53:20.720 Yeah, yeah.

00:53:21.220 So like it's a physics or a geometry question.

00:53:24.700 The best fries were, my favorite fries,

00:53:27.300 were the spotted pig.

00:53:28.320 Oh, right. I remember that.

00:53:29.220 Remind me, tell me more.

00:53:30.000 The burger, the huge nest,

00:53:31.800 huge nest of shoestring.

00:53:33.640 By the way, great.

00:53:34.300 Coiling into each other infinitely.

00:53:35.840 Okay, there it is.

00:53:36.500 Like a nest of heaven.

00:53:37.940 With paper-thin slices of crisped garlic embedded in there. 1.00

00:53:43.220 Damn. 0.99

00:53:43.740 And then there was a green. 1.00

00:53:44.960 Oh.

00:53:45.080 It was like a frizzled herb.

00:53:46.240 Yeah, yeah.

00:53:46.740 I know that look.

00:53:47.440 I believe.

00:53:48.100 Yeah, yeah.

00:53:48.720 It was exquisite.

00:53:49.920 That was my favorite restaurant in New York City.

00:53:52.440 And there I will say it.

00:53:55.100 This is a good opportunity for listeners to revisit my iconic French fry set on the Jimmy Fallon Tonight Show.

00:54:02.700 It's a great set.

00:54:03.520 The audience in the room was not, they were cold.

00:54:09.100 Will you say your french fry bit?

00:54:10.780 Please.

00:54:11.840 It's about a few things.

00:54:13.840 I'm trying to remember.

00:54:15.600 Oh, it's about, well, it's about people saying, can I steal a fry?

00:54:18.420 Oh, yeah.

00:54:18.940 And it's like, because you didn't have the courage to order what you wanted.

00:54:23.420 You got salad, like, instead of fries.

00:54:25.480 Yeah.

00:54:25.900 You know, now I suffer or something.

00:54:27.200 You know, it's like, it's about that.

00:54:28.340 It's about how I like how I like when there's like an onion ring that sort of ends up in there.

00:54:34.860 Oh, yeah, that's fun.

00:54:36.520 Because it's sort of like gives me a sense of the chef in the back room, kind of like

00:54:39.500 like a spirit of the chef, kind of like with that basket, like grabbing from him.

00:54:43.400 Like, he's kind of like he's dropping things in like a little bit of that.

00:54:49.640 So it's Steela Fry.

00:54:51.340 It's like there's something else there, but no, there's definitely.

00:54:54.500 Let me tell you my as you try to recall, let me tell you what happened with the burger

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Hungry, Naked, Need to Shower： Part 1

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