Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - May 02, 2023


Hysterica Globosina

Topics
Soaring and Boring Instant Grief

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Length

1 hour and 2 minutes

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183.47

Word count

11,426

Sentence count

1,130

Harmful content

Misogyny

18

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Toxicity

97

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Hate speech

37

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00:02:35.440 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.
00:02:36.900 I'm Jacqueline Novak.
00:02:38.000 And this is POOG,
00:02:39.160 an ongoing conversation about wellness
00:02:41.060 between two obsessive friends.
00:02:42.720 Two untamable intellects.
00:02:44.520 This is our hobby. 0.97
00:02:45.360 This is our hell.
00:02:46.220 This is our naked desire for free products.
00:02:48.500 This is POOG.
00:02:49.920 Today's topic, loosely speaking,
00:02:51.380 Hypochondriacal
00:02:52.940 Irritable
00:02:54.000 The ethos of the host
00:02:55.800 Hi
00:02:59.620 I just took my last bite of cracker
00:03:02.620 My homemade crackers that I made
00:03:05.060 That's them jangling 0.99
00:03:06.500 Damn 0.97
00:03:07.240 That's right 0.99
00:03:08.040 I made crackers
00:03:09.220 Alright, let's hear about it
00:03:10.620 So, you know, I cooked a lot in pandemic
00:03:14.380 Because we all did, right? 0.99
00:03:15.400 Who fucking cares? 0.99
00:03:16.340 But you know, I was the one roasting vegetables at 8am 0.99
00:03:19.060 I was the one taking the muffin
00:03:20.240 You were the one
00:03:21.380 Right, right, right.
00:03:22.120 I see, I see.
00:03:23.020 I was, but I had-
00:03:23.860 We all did, but I was the one.
00:03:25.200 I had muffin tins coming out of the oven at 9 a.m.,
00:03:28.160 you know, all that, whatever.
00:03:29.740 What I'm trying to say is that I essentially
00:03:31.800 haven't cooked much at all the last couple of years.
00:03:34.000 And I'm bleeding from that.
00:03:35.820 For those who didn't hear, for those,
00:03:37.880 we weren't recording yet,
00:03:38.680 but my headphones pinched my skin.
00:03:40.980 I screamed like a child and their blood has been drawn.
00:03:43.840 And I offered nothing other than I just go,
00:03:46.140 oh, I couldn't summon.
00:03:48.560 It hurts.
00:03:49.760 I could not summon. 0.98
00:03:51.380 fuck anything really um I saw it it's fine you don't need to sign much for this but the point is 0.98
00:03:58.760 I haven't been cooking because I've been going out okay I've been on all fours at restaurants 0.99
00:04:05.140 okay it's been great but I saw one of these cock sucking recipes on TikTok again I don't 0.92
00:04:13.960 have TikTok but I see the regurgitated TikToks that are on Instagram because I'm elderly 0.87
00:04:19.920 And so I saw this TikTok for these crackers. 0.72
00:04:24.540 And I made them.
00:04:25.800 Did you hit, do you do this?
00:04:28.340 Do you hit the little like bookmark button?
00:04:30.480 No, I once bookmarked.
00:04:31.960 I've done it yet.
00:04:33.200 Where are my bookmarks?
00:04:34.960 They're nowhere.
00:04:36.020 You can't find it?
00:04:37.000 No, I can.
00:04:37.940 I never think to is the issue.
00:04:39.600 I bookmarked one article once.
00:04:41.560 Yeah.
00:04:41.980 And then never found it again.
00:04:43.160 But these crackers, I would never serve these.
00:04:46.340 These are something I would only eat in the privacy of my own home.
00:04:49.120 as I am right now.
00:04:50.260 Or in the privacy of a walk by yourself.
00:04:52.400 Yeah, I wouldn't give these to anyone.
00:04:54.360 Because they're not good enough to enjoy?
00:04:55.760 Because they're a little too punishing.
00:04:57.560 I mean, they're nutrient-dense.
00:04:59.740 You could give it, well, here in Los Angeles.
00:05:02.480 No, I don't think you would do it.
00:05:03.920 I'll do anything.
00:05:05.980 Does it crunch?
00:05:06.460 You won't do this if there's flour in it.
00:05:08.060 Oh, okay.
00:05:09.300 I thought you were describing it as being punishing.
00:05:11.740 And so I assumed it was mere seeds.
00:05:14.100 It's still, so what it is, is we've got sesame seeds,
00:05:17.440 pumpkin seeds chia seeds well um you know i can't eat chia you've obviously sunflower seeds and then
00:05:24.040 you mix them all together with with some chickpea flour a little bit of olive oil some water
00:05:28.480 nutritional yeast onion flour garlic onion powder who cares the point is there was satisfying to
00:05:35.800 roll it all out delicious put it in the oven they're not bad but i wouldn't give them to
00:05:40.380 someone i'd give them to you trying to get beans out of my crackers at the moment chickpeas etc
00:05:46.120 Yeah.
00:05:46.660 What's the primary flavor?
00:05:48.000 The onion?
00:05:48.560 Honestly, the nutritional yeast is a top note.
00:05:50.960 It would be.
00:05:51.540 Now, how does nutritional yeast bake up? 0.84
00:05:53.120 And the pumpkin seeds.
00:05:55.600 Bakes up quite well.
00:05:57.140 Yeah.
00:05:57.460 It doesn't really change the flavor too much.
00:05:59.500 Yeah.
00:05:59.900 Do you put nutritional yeast on salads?
00:06:02.260 No.
00:06:02.860 I have.
00:06:03.680 Years ago.
00:06:04.140 What did I do with a...
00:06:04.820 Oh, I attempted one of these cheese dips that's...
00:06:07.740 Oh, sure.
00:06:08.160 You know, where they're leaning on the nutritional yeast.
00:06:11.180 Yeah.
00:06:11.320 I'm trying to remember how that went down
00:06:15.900 Well once again almond milk
00:06:17.940 You know almond milk didn't cut it
00:06:20.340 No
00:06:21.200 You know what almond milk works for?
00:06:24.720 A glass of almond milk
00:06:26.360 It's delicious
00:06:28.280 I'll tell you that
00:06:29.280 Drinking a glass of almond milk?
00:06:31.140 Well I don't know if you've ever done it
00:06:32.480 A small glass
00:06:33.060 I've never done that
00:06:33.940 I mean if you did an unsweetened chocolate
00:06:36.100 Or an unsweetened vanilla
00:06:37.340 To be clear original unsweetened vanilla
00:06:39.900 is absolutely great.
00:06:41.520 I should go buy some chocolate milk tonight.
00:06:43.480 I remember the first time my friend had it.
00:06:45.660 She was shocked.
00:06:46.400 Wait, which one?
00:06:47.100 Which one?
00:06:47.500 Chocolate almond?
00:06:48.860 What'd you say?
00:06:49.440 Unsweetened almond milk from Almond Breeze.
00:06:51.880 Okay, this is about nine years ago.
00:06:53.480 Yikes.
00:06:53.920 They like use that to power commercial airlines now.
00:06:57.080 It's like gasoline.
00:06:58.740 It's like been repurposed.
00:07:01.440 There's no way.
00:07:02.360 Oh my God.
00:07:02.980 The additives, the guar gums in that brand.
00:07:04.920 Really?
00:07:05.320 Good luck.
00:07:05.680 I'm getting tired of hearing about guar gum as a problem.
00:07:08.320 I just, I don't know.
00:07:10.040 I don't know what it is, but I'm just like...
00:07:11.820 You think it's fine?
00:07:12.480 Oh, really?
00:07:13.720 I know, I know, I know.
00:07:15.560 Let's see.
00:07:16.140 They're carrageenan-free, so...
00:07:18.220 I've been playing with making my own nut milks again,
00:07:20.480 but I don't think I can go down that dirty road.
00:07:23.420 Let's see.
00:07:23.960 Where do we got these two?
00:07:25.020 Global ingredients?
00:07:26.680 You're looking at almond breeze right now?
00:07:28.380 Blue diamond almonds.
00:07:29.900 Yeah, it's like petroleum.
00:07:31.200 They make almond breeze, right?
00:07:33.180 Yeah.
00:07:33.680 Well, as we know, and I hate to say it,
00:07:35.880 and we all know the issues with almonds as far as...
00:07:37.900 All right, let's see what the issues are.
00:07:38.780 And that's real.
00:07:39.300 I don't mean to use a voice so as to degrade the environmental impacts of almonds.
00:07:42.980 We know that it takes like 16,000 gallons to make one almond.
00:07:48.100 It's something obscene.
00:07:50.240 And cashews, however, I don't know the environmental impact of cashew farming.
00:07:54.780 You just love to talk about nuts.
00:07:55.640 I'm allergic to brazenly.
00:07:59.360 Well, I'm poking through.
00:08:01.100 People make milk with almond butter.
00:08:03.060 I mean, I'm not trying to get off dairy.
00:08:04.880 So there it is.
00:08:05.320 No, of course not.
00:08:05.840 Right.
00:08:06.100 So it's sort of like, what am I talking about?
00:08:07.940 I want to experiment with raw milk
00:08:10.320 Raw dairy milk
00:08:12.000 What does that mean?
00:08:13.220 The idea of it
00:08:14.020 Pasteur is a confusing term
00:08:17.460 Because you think
00:08:18.840 I guess it's Louis Pasteur
00:08:20.580 I actually don't know
00:08:23.280 Wasn't Louis Pasteur the one who figured out
00:08:26.000 Penicillin or something?
00:08:28.100 I don't know
00:08:29.140 Or he figured out
00:08:31.480 Inoculation
00:08:33.600 I think
00:08:34.660 Good for him
00:08:36.500 good for him and you know send in a little bit of the stuff you know and but then you go you know
00:08:42.780 pasteurized milk and you think it means you know that they're on the pasture cows were really on
00:08:48.780 the pasture it's actually means they're hung upside down separated from their children at birth 0.98
00:08:52.800 they're forced to watch their children be like fucked by a mechanical instrument so as to 0.99
00:09:00.800 Rob them of their milk 1.00
00:09:02.660 Yeah
00:09:03.700 But
00:09:04.720 Yeah
00:09:05.720 Pasteur is
00:09:06.280 I was upset
00:09:06.900 I remember being
00:09:07.600 My mother instilling some fear in me
00:09:09.820 Of milk that wasn't pasteurized
00:09:11.480 When I was like a child
00:09:12.500 Because my mom used to always drink
00:09:14.160 Just a glass of milk
00:09:15.260 I did as a child
00:09:16.560 And then I got into this with her later
00:09:18.180 You know
00:09:18.520 I was like
00:09:19.000 Actually you don't need the milk for calcium
00:09:20.560 Well right
00:09:21.160 Like me with bananas
00:09:22.540 Being like
00:09:23.320 More in an avocado
00:09:24.380 Than a banana
00:09:25.160 More what?
00:09:26.280 Potassium?
00:09:26.920 More potassium
00:09:27.520 In an avocado
00:09:28.320 Than a banana apparently
00:09:29.200 I probably put down an avocado
00:09:30.460 a day yeah sometimes well it's hard in this state not to i know i eat them a lot but i will say i'm
00:09:36.240 a little if an avocado has churned even gently it's enough to send me through the roof if there's
00:09:40.840 any of the what's the word i'm looking for no no the brown's not even the issue it's the um
00:09:45.380 when it becomes effervescent it's the most disgusting well that's beyond 1.00
00:09:49.180 bubbling they're just a slight tinge right because that's what happens when
00:09:57.760 like it's turning to kombucha.
00:10:00.860 Yeah, yeah.
00:10:01.440 You get effervescence there.
00:10:02.780 It's being fermented.
00:10:03.900 I continue to pour that wooden spoon, right?
00:10:07.580 Oh, the vinegar that we got.
00:10:09.060 Fire vinegar.
00:10:10.000 Yeah.
00:10:10.400 Pour it on my salad.
00:10:11.500 It's probably just feeling the honey.
00:10:13.140 There's a little honey in there.
00:10:13.880 I'm probably like rabidly screaming for it.
00:10:16.700 Yeah.
00:10:17.620 Chris and I stayed at a friend's house
00:10:18.900 and the friend is someone who would take a pill
00:10:21.620 instead of eating if they could.
00:10:22.940 Unimaginable.
00:10:23.340 And it was actually a triumph because I was able to not try to, because generally I feel like as a guest, you have to adopt the principles and ethos of the host and act like you're only hungry when they're hungry.
00:10:43.660 Oh my God.
00:10:44.600 So if you're with one of these people who just as soon as give up food, it's kind of rubber meets the road.
00:10:52.240 You know, it's sort of like, well, if we're going to be friends, I'm going to have to say, okay, I'm hungry again.
00:10:58.420 Yeah, of course.
00:10:59.820 I'm going to order food to the house.
00:11:01.820 Oh, absolutely.
00:11:02.800 And it was actually pretty triumphant because I was able to, you know, with a friend discuss it.
00:11:07.900 And even, even have things like, like where the friend's like, I don't have to be nosy, but did you eat the entirety of that, of that pizza last night?
00:11:15.660 Like, yeah.
00:11:17.640 Cause I didn't notice like, and then I see the boxes this morning.
00:11:20.980 So this is like massively, like technically would be, you know.
00:11:24.380 Right, right.
00:11:25.240 The intimacy of being able to go like, I'm hungry.
00:11:27.520 And you've seen me do this in a group setting recently where it's like, I'm hungry and I need lunch now.
00:11:31.860 And that wasn't an adequate snack and I want food.
00:11:35.740 Oh, it's moving.
00:11:36.460 It's moving to see you do it.
00:11:37.760 You're very, you're very good at it.
00:11:39.700 Except I was like, I need grain.
00:11:41.480 I said that.
00:11:42.480 No, right, right. 0.98
00:11:43.460 It's, it's like, it's fucking loaded though, because it just is. 0.96
00:11:48.580 I don't know. 0.95
00:11:49.600 But it was, all I was going to say is that like your friend's like, like, wait, did you
00:11:52.840 eat that whole pizza?
00:11:53.480 Like, like truly like a curiosity because he'd literally take a pill.
00:11:57.360 And even though it's like the curiosity of the, I'm like, well, yeah.
00:12:01.820 And I'm like, and he was like, I didn't even notice at the time.
00:12:05.100 That's so funny.
00:12:05.640 Like whatever.
00:12:06.020 And I was like, yeah, I know.
00:12:07.180 I kept you from noticing.
00:12:08.540 Right, right, right.
00:12:09.400 He's like, what, do you eat it really quickly?
00:12:10.440 I was like, no, not so quickly as to like draw attention to it by virtue of the quickness,
00:12:15.580 but just kind of, I don't know.
00:12:17.940 It felt like I was keeping a conversation from falling to the pizza somehow during.
00:12:22.580 The conversation, you were hovering above the pizza.
00:12:25.120 Yes, yes.
00:12:27.560 It's, you know, so that, oh, I got, speaking of that, I got the bionic gym operational
00:12:35.440 in my home.
00:12:36.040 By the way, where the hell is mine?
00:12:37.740 I forwarded you an email.
00:12:38.820 I got an email.
00:12:39.800 I have to go to UPS in San Luis Obispo.
00:12:43.240 Yeah, it did the thing where it tried to deliver it, I think.
00:12:45.980 It tried to deliver it to you.
00:12:48.680 I strapped those babies on.
00:12:50.900 Zip, zip, zip, zip, I go.
00:12:52.780 It's pretty exciting.
00:12:53.640 So the idea is that-
00:12:54.240 It wasn't nothing, by the way.
00:12:55.720 Were you sweating?
00:12:56.600 Because it seems kind of intense.
00:12:57.940 You strap it only to your legs?
00:12:59.380 Yeah.
00:13:00.140 And there's all these different programs.
00:13:02.120 There's acclimation and there's a whole thing.
00:13:04.820 You know, of course, the dream is pasta dinners above the table,
00:13:07.660 bouncing legs below.
00:13:11.180 But we had a call with the founder.
00:13:13.720 They were like, great.
00:13:14.380 And I was like pitching marketing ideas.
00:13:16.460 I was like, people are getting the wrong idea.
00:13:18.440 They think this is some kind of as seen on TV.
00:13:20.500 Right, right.
00:13:20.900 Whatever.
00:13:21.620 And whatever.
00:13:22.380 But I'm excited.
00:13:23.020 We'll see.
00:13:23.380 We'll see what happens.
00:13:24.000 I wasn't sweating yet, but it could take some time to acclimate.
00:13:27.300 So actually, no, I was sweating after a little while.
00:13:29.720 I don't know.
00:13:30.400 My Apple Watch was not charged.
00:13:32.080 so it'll be a report back
00:13:35.040 but I was really honored
00:13:35.820 and then other news
00:13:37.100 in device world
00:13:38.180 is I can't find my Lima laser
00:13:39.520 Jacqueline
00:13:40.480 Jacqueline
00:13:41.080 you have got
00:13:42.280 to be kidding me
00:13:43.180 okay it might be in the car
00:13:44.420 because I took it with me
00:13:45.340 to a friend
00:13:45.960 okay
00:13:46.700 or it could be under the bed
00:13:47.860 I fell asleep with it
00:13:48.820 I'm not worried at all
00:13:49.720 where could it possibly be
00:13:50.800 I mean I didn't throw it out the window
00:13:52.140 it's in your house
00:13:52.800 or in your car
00:13:53.460 yeah
00:13:53.760 or at my friends
00:13:54.880 can you believe
00:13:55.800 travel with it
00:13:56.540 and then
00:13:56.800 so I've been going to sleep with it
00:13:58.060 like I'll take it out
00:13:59.360 and I'll just sort of
00:14:00.080 hold it in spot
00:14:00.760 and then fall asleep
00:14:01.480 I did that last night watching 100 Foot Wave.
00:14:03.880 New episodes, folks, in case you didn't know.
00:14:06.080 And I fell asleep.
00:14:06.940 So I remain, your list remains, Yellow Jackets. 0.85
00:14:10.400 Untouched. 1.00
00:14:10.940 Still untouched by you and Drive to Survive.
00:14:14.220 I know, untouched.
00:14:16.480 Stop.
00:14:17.960 I saw you watch a Tiger Woods documentary.
00:14:20.500 You play tennis.
00:14:21.580 There's no excuse.
00:14:22.920 And this is not non-sports lover.
00:14:25.840 Jacqueline, we've been through this.
00:14:27.460 I don't even consider myself.
00:14:28.100 Get in.
00:14:28.460 Sports loving, I am not.
00:14:30.300 Last Chance U,
00:14:31.080 one of my favorite shows of all time,
00:14:32.500 have rewatched seasons.
00:14:34.100 And that's about football and basketball.
00:14:35.820 Yeah, well, the celebrity,
00:14:37.440 the characters, the ego,
00:14:38.460 the money, the sponsorship,
00:14:40.420 the business dealings.
00:14:42.180 Okay.
00:14:43.520 Okay.
00:14:44.340 And you can hear them in the cars.
00:14:46.800 And there's like 20 guys total.
00:14:48.340 And they're talking?
00:14:49.020 You can hear them.
00:14:49.780 So they're like, push, push.
00:14:51.040 Okay.
00:14:51.240 What?
00:14:51.800 Okay.
00:14:52.420 And they're like, box, box.
00:14:53.760 Okay.
00:14:53.940 Like time to make a pit stop.
00:14:55.240 They're like, box, box.
00:14:55.740 Do I have to take a piss?
00:14:56.800 No, no.
00:14:57.500 A pit stop.
00:14:58.780 Okay.
00:14:58.980 Oh, okay.
00:14:59.360 where they pull in
00:15:00.200 and they go
00:15:00.860 okay
00:15:01.920 they screw on new tires
00:15:03.940 and off they go
00:15:04.960 they do it in like
00:15:05.560 three seconds
00:15:06.460 literally
00:15:07.020 okay
00:15:07.540 yeah
00:15:07.820 yeah yeah yeah
00:15:08.640 okay and then off they go
00:15:09.300 and then you hear them
00:15:09.840 on the radio
00:15:10.300 they're like
00:15:11.620 you know
00:15:13.060 asking questions
00:15:13.840 and they're like
00:15:14.660 something's wrong with my tires
00:15:15.740 you know whatever
00:15:16.260 it's like 0.94
00:15:16.640 I married the wrong girl
00:15:17.800 yeah 1.00
00:15:18.220 okay
00:15:19.060 it gets emotional
00:15:21.140 in there
00:15:21.660 I would imagine
00:15:22.460 and they're driving
00:15:23.220 for like two hours
00:15:24.100 there's a race weekend
00:15:25.120 it's just you're getting
00:15:25.720 it hooked
00:15:26.140 and there is like
00:15:26.820 probably 30%
00:15:27.800 of the POOG listenership
00:15:29.080 that already is hooked.
00:15:30.440 Okay.
00:15:30.780 So it'll just add
00:15:31.700 something to our lexicon.
00:15:33.060 I'm going to watch it.
00:15:33.880 And then we start begging
00:15:34.600 for trips to Monaco,
00:15:35.700 et cetera.
00:15:36.160 Fabulous.
00:15:37.160 Persistent eye twitching
00:15:38.220 the last two days.
00:15:39.560 And we've all been through this,
00:15:40.560 right?
00:15:41.020 This twitch is not the eye.
00:15:42.920 Yeah.
00:15:43.180 Oh, it's too much caffeine.
00:15:44.500 It's under the eye,
00:15:46.600 the soft tissue under the eye.
00:15:48.100 Oh, I've experienced that.
00:15:49.240 Okay, great.
00:15:49.660 And it just goes away
00:15:50.280 after a few days.
00:15:50.980 No, it usually advances
00:15:51.980 into extreme disability,
00:15:54.380 disaster,
00:15:55.880 chronic illness
00:15:56.740 straight through to death.
00:15:58.220 Because I haven't been feeling hypochondriacal for a long time,
00:16:01.880 but I today was feeling like, hmm.
00:16:05.500 So I was, as we all know.
00:16:06.700 We all know about your elbows.
00:16:08.360 And I've actually been pulled out.
00:16:09.300 I was in a deep lana.
00:16:10.720 My what?
00:16:11.340 I said we all know, and I meant myself.
00:16:12.880 Just there was a bump on the elbow that really took you far.
00:16:16.880 Well, Jacqueline, by the way, I almost texted you.
00:16:18.260 I almost texted you the day after to go, pain gone.
00:16:20.600 Oh my God.
00:16:21.160 Because I, Jacqueline, I played tennis.
00:16:25.600 And we've all heard about tennis elbow.
00:16:27.100 I was in the car with her
00:16:28.840 I'll just let you say it
00:16:30.900 or not
00:16:31.280 I mean
00:16:31.620 no
00:16:31.920 it was just
00:16:32.680 it was interesting
00:16:33.960 because it was sort of
00:16:35.300 you're rubbing on it
00:16:36.020 rubbing on it
00:16:36.460 and going
00:16:36.700 there's something wrong
00:16:37.400 and to me
00:16:38.240 that's the kind of pain
00:16:39.520 that is so
00:16:40.340 uninteresting
00:16:41.500 and so unworrying
00:16:43.020 it's literally like
00:16:43.760 my elbow hurts
00:16:45.080 yeah
00:16:45.400 and that's the kind of thing
00:16:46.660 like you wait
00:16:47.360 you wait and see
00:16:48.520 like it's not a freaky
00:16:50.700 kind of thing
00:16:51.400 and so it was interesting
00:16:52.120 to see the obsessive
00:16:53.360 take hold of that
00:16:54.180 it seemed like good
00:16:55.320 yeah
00:16:56.180 It didn't seem like good meat for that.
00:16:59.100 By the way, is Celsius making me irritable?
00:17:03.500 Absolutely.
00:17:04.600 Wait, really?
00:17:05.480 Absolutely.
00:17:06.160 Are you kidding me?
00:17:07.120 More than caffeine regularly?
00:17:08.760 Yes.
00:17:09.720 Celsius is absolutely making me irritable.
00:17:12.020 Wait, but why?
00:17:13.720 So, caffeine.
00:17:14.380 I don't mean, do you think I'm irritable today?
00:17:16.440 Because we know that.
00:17:17.220 Whatever.
00:17:17.740 No, no, but I do think that absolutely.
00:17:20.160 Something like that.
00:17:21.220 Yes.
00:17:21.720 What is it?
00:17:22.160 Taurine?
00:17:22.640 What is this?
00:17:23.520 It ain't good.
00:17:24.160 switch to matcha if you have to.
00:17:25.940 It tastes so good though.
00:17:27.620 This is the problem.
00:17:28.280 It's like I'm drinking it for flavor.
00:17:30.940 What am I going to do?
00:17:31.540 Fill it up with oat milk?
00:17:32.780 Yeah.
00:17:33.180 Pasta in a glass,
00:17:34.700 but it's green and you call it a drink?
00:17:36.320 No thanks.
00:17:37.520 It's not.
00:17:38.400 How much Celsius are you having?
00:17:40.200 No, but I want fruity flavors.
00:17:41.980 I want fruity flavors right now
00:17:43.500 because I've gotten hooked on them.
00:17:44.740 I could do it.
00:17:45.240 There's other drinks.
00:17:46.420 God, I'm going to go to Erwan,
00:17:47.620 Fairmount,
00:17:48.120 keep roaming the drink aisle.
00:17:49.340 It's just like,
00:17:50.120 what's even going on here? 0.99
00:17:54.160 I was able to have their fucking $9 keto mousse for a few days. 0.99
00:18:01.260 Wait, you texted me about that. 0.99
00:18:02.280 Chocolatey, delicious, rich, wonderful.
00:18:04.980 And I was like, what is this?
00:18:06.780 And then I discovered it's made of avocado and I was thrilled at first.
00:18:10.560 And then that night, and I didn't think I'd be susceptible to this.
00:18:14.860 Suddenly it was like, oh, I fully tasted the avocado.
00:18:19.180 Oh, no.
00:18:20.640 Like, not imagine it.
00:18:21.520 Like, I was like, oh, right.
00:18:22.640 Of course that's avocado.
00:18:23.660 I knew there was something weird about it.
00:18:25.480 And I thought it was like,
00:18:26.580 it's like actual flavor coming through. 1.00
00:18:29.200 Oh shit. 0.99
00:18:29.740 It's like chocolate and avocado. 1.00
00:18:31.660 And when I hadn't named it avocado before,
00:18:34.960 it's not just texture.
00:18:35.780 I mean, that's the thing.
00:18:36.820 I was almost like,
00:18:37.500 oh, I taste like even like this one might've been drowning,
00:18:40.340 dare I say, effervescent.
00:18:42.280 And they're covering it up with cacao. 1.00
00:18:44.860 Fuck. 1.00
00:18:45.800 That's unfortunate. 1.00
00:18:46.840 Yeah.
00:18:46.960 I don't like an avocado in my smoothie.
00:18:49.380 I have some glow nuts in the fridge.
00:18:52.160 That's my little air one.
00:18:53.260 Due to you telling me about it, I decided to retry.
00:18:55.660 Snickerdoodle is the flavor.
00:18:57.200 I had a powdered sugar one once, wasn't moved.
00:18:59.920 Yeah.
00:19:00.340 Snickerdoodle flavor, which is not my usual preferred profile.
00:19:02.960 Right.
00:19:03.440 Stunning. 1.00
00:19:04.040 You're not some cinnamon fool. 0.99
00:19:05.860 I remember this thing about like the French being like Americans, 0.96
00:19:08.480 like the only desserts they have are cinnamon. 1.00
00:19:10.680 That is so funny.
00:19:12.160 Yeah, that was really funny.
00:19:14.440 I got a Glowna.
00:19:15.540 I got a powder and actually really enjoyed it.
00:19:17.020 And then I got, just like they have like a thing of two cupcakes
00:19:20.060 that were like this, you know, sugar-free, whatever, allulose-based.
00:19:23.960 And, you know, allulose has no bad flavor in it.
00:19:26.160 So I'm always running for it.
00:19:27.400 How was it?
00:19:28.200 Same brand?
00:19:29.100 No, no.
00:19:30.460 Less inspiring packaging, but quite tasty.
00:19:34.020 Send a picture next time.
00:19:35.140 Would you, doll?
00:19:36.640 I said you picked.
00:19:37.900 I said you picked my Erwan basket. 0.98
00:19:39.300 Not at the cupcakes.
00:19:40.040 Not at the cupcakes.
00:19:40.940 I didn't see them.
00:19:50.980 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, from The Girlfriends,
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00:21:12.400 And like raw fish, you've got a shelf life.
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00:21:51.200 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.
00:21:55.500 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.
00:22:00.480 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune.
00:22:04.300 It was hard to wrap your head around. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.
00:22:09.280 No, I am not your guru.
00:22:12.480 And back then, I lied to my parents, I lied to police, I lied to everybody.
00:22:17.940 There were years, right, where I could not say your name.
00:22:20.920 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California, interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists, whomever I can, to try to find out what actually happened.
00:22:29.760 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend?
00:22:34.340 They have had this case for 30 years. 0.95
00:22:37.100 I'll teach you sons of a** to come around here and my wife. 0.90
00:22:39.880 Boom, boom. 0.97
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00:22:44.580 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app,
00:22:47.200 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:22:51.380 The more you listen to your kids, the closer you'll be.
00:22:55.360 So we asked kids, what do you want your parents to hear?
00:22:59.380 I feel sometimes that I'm not listened to.
00:23:01.700 I would just want you to listen to me more often
00:23:03.660 and evaluate situations with me and lead me towards success.
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00:23:20.180 ad council and pivotal i want to say because i haven't given the proper shout out to burrow
00:23:30.980 who sent me an extraordinary double shelving unit that i'll be posting on the poog instagram
00:23:36.820 that is in my office now
00:23:38.920 and is lulling me back into the office.
00:23:42.400 Ugh, yeah.
00:23:43.500 Fit my wall perfectly.
00:23:45.660 Easy to install.
00:23:46.500 Not that I installed them myself,
00:23:48.100 but I supervised.
00:23:51.880 Trey of Lemonade.
00:23:54.200 Wait, what movie is that?
00:23:55.860 Oh, Clueless, right?
00:23:57.240 I supervised.
00:23:58.560 That's what I was referencing.
00:23:59.580 Yeah.
00:23:59.800 Is it Clueless?
00:24:01.000 Oh God.
00:24:02.140 Oh God.
00:24:03.260 What, you feeling nothing?
00:24:04.600 No, I got embarrassed about.
00:24:05.800 referencing clueless no no i love clueless what was it exactly well now i'm digging deeper i think
00:24:13.200 i know worse right right but we can still cut being boring no no you know being boring not
00:24:18.980 funny not interesting kind of just a vacant um vessel sort of going like not that i installed
00:24:24.760 it like that kind of thing just like no no it wasn't even that it was the implication that
00:24:28.920 somehow i was drawing upon some kind of nostalgia for a 90s movie to imbue what is ultimately a
00:24:34.520 boring story with anything interesting when really I should just do the work to create the
00:24:38.880 anecdote in real time in an inspired way and not lean on. And the lowest form of expression
00:24:44.420 is referencing other work to express yourself. There it is. And I would refer to Clueless as
00:24:52.140 work. It's very fine work. But it's fine. And the borough shelves are here and they're great.
00:24:58.880 And thank you. And I will be posting them on the gram. And then I'm going to do a slope pivot
00:25:04.420 back to Erewhon.
00:25:05.880 No,
00:25:06.260 we're not done there.
00:25:08.440 Well,
00:25:08.620 I still,
00:25:09.120 Jacqueline,
00:25:09.880 the next little field trip
00:25:11.160 that I wanted to,
00:25:11.660 I'm going to hijack you. 0.98
00:25:12.520 I'm going to take you 1.00
00:25:13.100 in my Mazda.
00:25:14.080 I'm going to pull up
00:25:14.640 and I'm going to say,
00:25:15.360 get in.
00:25:16.340 You're going to be in my Mazda.
00:25:18.120 I'm taking us
00:25:18.580 to the Pacific Palisades
00:25:19.880 and we're going
00:25:20.400 to the Sweet Laurel Bakery
00:25:23.380 because guess what,
00:25:24.700 little girl,
00:25:25.100 they have keto cakes
00:25:25.980 and they have keto frappuccinos.
00:25:27.880 Okay.
00:25:28.280 Well,
00:25:28.460 the frappuccino part
00:25:29.140 interests me.
00:25:30.220 However,
00:25:31.080 they don't,
00:25:31.640 oh,
00:25:31.840 the almond flour,
00:25:33.220 almond flour.
00:25:33.860 But listen,
00:25:34.420 No, no.
00:25:35.120 No.
00:25:35.640 What's the problem?
00:25:36.300 I'm not allergic to almonds.
00:25:37.780 I know you're allergic to.
00:25:40.620 Wait, what's the problem?
00:25:41.860 No, I think it's, I'm trying to remember what they use.
00:25:44.520 I think it was that it was chia.
00:25:46.040 No, there's not chia in there. 1.00
00:25:47.440 It was something that fucked me. 1.00
00:25:48.400 We're going to find out. 0.99
00:25:49.240 We're going to do this.
00:25:49.860 I'm going to call them.
00:25:50.860 We're going to have a serious.
00:25:51.440 I also want to be clear.
00:25:52.100 Whatever.
00:25:52.580 I just, we reference so often how I'm eating keto foods.
00:25:56.100 That doesn't mean I like am keto.
00:25:58.180 You know what I mean?
00:25:58.960 It's just that the keto food.
00:26:00.560 You're like.
00:26:00.780 No, because like true keto, you know, it's a whole, you're like.
00:26:04.420 actively making sure that you get that 70% of your food is fat.
00:26:07.780 I'm not doing any of that.
00:26:08.960 I just am avoiding like blood sugar spikes and getting triggered on like
00:26:14.340 sugar cycles.
00:26:15.300 Yeah.
00:26:15.880 And therefore a lot of the keto foods happen to fit that category.
00:26:19.620 You know what I mean?
00:26:19.900 Yeah.
00:26:20.380 Yeah.
00:26:20.800 Yeah.
00:26:20.880 Yeah.
00:26:21.080 Just so that.
00:26:22.300 Sure.
00:26:22.920 Sure.
00:26:24.220 I just want to not be pigeonholed,
00:26:27.640 you know,
00:26:27.940 too hard.
00:26:29.800 Well,
00:26:30.200 all I'm saying is that we're going to Sweet Laurel.
00:26:32.360 We're getting the keto cake.
00:26:33.620 we're getting the keto frappuccino.
00:26:35.580 It's just the keto cake at Sweet Laurel.
00:26:37.480 I can't do and I don't remember why.
00:26:39.180 I think that you can.
00:26:40.980 I look it up.
00:26:41.680 You always think I can.
00:26:43.260 Sweet Laurel keto cake.
00:26:44.900 What's the problem?
00:26:45.660 Let's see.
00:26:46.560 Because don't you think...
00:26:49.700 Eye twitching out of control?
00:26:51.080 I think I know why. 0.98
00:26:53.100 Because I'm fucking right. 0.98
00:26:55.500 Kia. 1.00
00:26:56.300 God damn it. 1.00
00:26:57.160 In what? 0.99
00:26:59.300 In the...
00:27:00.980 Because believe me,
00:27:01.980 if there's something to try...
00:27:03.620 in the realm, I'm trying it. Like I'll try something three times knowing I don't like it.
00:27:10.800 You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. But what have I been enjoying?
00:27:17.160 I've been enjoying, I've been salting the shit out of my salads with Momofuku. I think I've 0.83
00:27:22.500 already talked about that. I would like to know which blend that is. I did something unheard of
00:27:28.000 for me and really not I was I made a salad today and I put a I chopped up a strawberry put it in
00:27:37.120 there really and more than one obviously very strange I was overtaken by something because
00:27:42.840 that's a very it's a vestige of the 90s that I the fruit did not take to I don't the only the
00:27:48.620 only fruit I like in salad is a crisp Asian pear yeah and perhaps you know a Fuyu persimmon right
00:27:55.120 Or a crisp Fuji to offset the tartness of, say, a celery endive salad with, you know, manchego.
00:28:03.240 Or a harsh gorgonzola or something like that.
00:28:04.360 Yeah, exactly.
00:28:05.180 But a wet fruit in a salad.
00:28:06.940 It better not be even.
00:28:08.480 Like to me, like the gorgonzola better not be even with the fruit.
00:28:11.560 And I don't want anything.
00:28:12.400 I mean, it's good.
00:28:13.040 The texture, like I don't want, I don't want soft fruit in a salad.
00:28:17.060 I want stone fruit in a salad. 0.97
00:28:19.640 Also, because I'm a stone fruit, you know, whore as we know. 0.99
00:28:23.040 and an elitist 1.00
00:28:23.740 when it comes to stone fruit
00:28:24.860 and can hardly handle
00:28:25.820 what this country
00:28:26.680 calls a peach
00:28:27.640 but
00:28:28.620 unless it comes from
00:28:31.160 Frog Hollow Farm
00:28:31.920 my family's farm
00:28:32.540 but
00:28:32.780 but
00:28:33.700 can you imagine
00:28:35.800 getting this deep into farm
00:28:37.040 into like
00:28:37.600 not knowing that
00:28:38.900 that your cousins
00:28:39.780 have cousins that run farms
00:28:41.200 they do serve at
00:28:42.680 Erwan in jars
00:28:43.500 I believe
00:28:43.960 well by the way
00:28:44.920 yes
00:28:45.380 and I sent a photo
00:28:46.340 to my aunt
00:28:46.900 and said
00:28:47.140 are you absolutely kidding me
00:28:48.320 the Frog Hollow
00:28:49.500 organic
00:28:50.700 apricot
00:28:51.440 chutney
00:28:51.900 and dried
00:28:52.400 fruits are available at Erewhon
00:28:54.680 and just
00:28:56.440 really proud moment for me
00:28:58.880 of course
00:28:59.280 let's see bragging about the family farm
00:29:03.000 oh stone fruit I put strawberry
00:29:04.580 in the salad
00:29:05.720 won't be doing it again that's all
00:29:08.780 I'm going to say
00:29:09.240 sometimes it's about
00:29:12.220 sometimes we're here
00:29:14.740 to just let our voices go
00:29:16.160 sometimes we're just here to let our
00:29:18.820 voices be sonic
00:29:20.500 droppers the true gift of poog is our willingness to do this oh publicly you reminded me speaking
00:29:27.680 voices yeah so as i was saying i haven't been hypochondriacal yes okay and i was singing as
00:29:34.820 we know there was a period then you know it's not as intense i was i was really cycling through
00:29:40.620 the lana right and i heard white dress for the first time really late to the to the party here
00:29:45.400 I was singing and I suggest everyone go listen to white dress if they haven't and be stunned by
00:29:51.660 the vocalization but the point is I was trying to sing along and then of course I found myself
00:29:55.800 singing in the shower in the car anywhere yes and the notes that I was attempting to hit which
00:30:00.600 of course I can't this pain started to happen it was like I started to feel this pain and I was
00:30:06.560 like I'll ignore that okay stop stop singing but then I was like hmm so there's something I think
00:30:12.220 in my throat.
00:30:13.480 Okay.
00:30:14.020 Our producers making stressed out faces.
00:30:16.300 I know it's scaring me.
00:30:17.140 I'm going to have to call UCLA tomorrow.
00:30:19.020 Completely inappropriate.
00:30:20.100 Feeding the flames.
00:30:21.580 Okay.
00:30:21.920 But listen,
00:30:22.640 so,
00:30:22.800 so the certain notes,
00:30:24.120 right there.
00:30:29.160 I feel like the words vocal nodes.
00:30:31.320 Okay.
00:30:31.900 Exactly.
00:30:32.400 No,
00:30:32.680 no.
00:30:33.100 So,
00:30:33.560 so I went in my word.
00:30:34.600 So,
00:30:34.880 Oh my God.
00:30:36.040 Let's just say it's a node.
00:30:37.380 I know.
00:30:37.780 If it's a node,
00:30:38.720 it's my right side.
00:30:39.820 And then,
00:30:40.080 well,
00:30:40.180 here's what scared me. 0.99
00:30:40.940 Jacqueline is that a couple of times
00:30:42.080 I've moved my neck a certain way and I've gone, ow. And I went, okay, it's time to get UCLA on the
00:30:46.520 phone. Specialists. Right. Fuck. Couple things. Yeah. What is the nature of the pain? Pain is
00:30:55.100 almost too strong a word. It's not the emotional pain of not hitting the note. It doesn't hurt.
00:30:59.180 I would never be able to even approximate the note. I... Scratchy? No, no scratching, swallowing,
00:31:05.460 fine. Achy. No, it's just like suddenly like certain notes that I'm hitting or not hitting.
00:31:10.720 and certain movements of the head
00:31:12.740 trigger it.
00:31:13.940 But so much so that last night
00:31:15.020 it was like laying back in bed
00:31:16.040 and then I got up to get it
00:31:17.080 to grab my water
00:31:18.220 and I was like,
00:31:18.780 ow.
00:31:19.640 I said it out loud.
00:31:21.200 And I'm calling UCLA
00:31:22.400 and I don't want to even.
00:31:23.480 Yeah.
00:31:23.780 I just got to call them.
00:31:24.660 Yeah.
00:31:26.720 I used to have this thing
00:31:27.760 where when I,
00:31:28.560 I believe there's so much tightness
00:31:30.100 in my throat.
00:31:30.900 Okay.
00:31:32.340 And you know,
00:31:33.340 you can hit the fifth chakra
00:31:34.360 over and over again energetically.
00:31:36.180 But if those muscles are locked,
00:31:37.660 I mean, eventually,
00:31:38.660 I don't know.
00:31:39.080 But when I used to like
00:31:40.440 be driving like these really long drives on the on the road right to a comedy club for
00:31:45.380 you know i would sing in the car obviously and i'd kind of work on the voice in the car and
00:31:51.860 kind of like experiment with with stuff and i'd find that when i would really try to sort of sing
00:31:58.040 there would be such attention in my throat that i would gag whoa gag whoa okay and then another
00:32:05.000 thing is it's like something's not gagging is a major psychological thing because by the way
00:32:10.280 I had about a four-month period and I've never had trouble swallowing pills.
00:32:14.700 Yeah.
00:32:15.420 I, out of nowhere, was like, I can't swallow pills.
00:32:18.780 Or I was like swallowing them and I'd be like, oh, psychological distress.
00:32:22.600 Now, was there a psychological thing of, because you know the thing of how,
00:32:26.100 like if you think about swallowing and how to do it, it actually becomes really difficult.
00:32:29.460 Like it's a specific thing.
00:32:30.380 Like right now, you try to like just swallow blind.
00:32:33.340 It's like difficult.
00:32:34.760 Yeah, I can't even do it.
00:32:36.300 You kind of need like something in your mouth to like trigger it.
00:32:39.200 There you go.
00:32:39.660 I thought I'd never swallow again.
00:32:41.060 Okay, great.
00:32:41.380 I'm back.
00:32:41.860 Okay, yeah.
00:32:42.400 I remember the doctor when I was like six or whatever,
00:32:44.720 doing the tapping on the knee thing, you know,
00:32:46.520 with a hammer and I'm staring at it.
00:32:48.360 It's not moving.
00:32:48.960 It's not moving.
00:32:49.480 It's not moving.
00:32:49.980 And he's like, okay, now we're going to do a thing
00:32:51.580 where you take your one hand up here
00:32:53.180 and you push your fist against as hard as you can.
00:32:55.100 And then he taps my knee and it goes.
00:32:57.040 Do you see what I'm saying?
00:32:57.720 Right, right, right.
00:32:58.020 Of course.
00:32:58.540 Just the focus.
00:32:59.640 Well, I'll never forget.
00:33:01.120 Well, a lot's coming back to the throat
00:33:02.860 because I just remembered I had something
00:33:05.020 years and years ago in my throat,
00:33:07.060 something like, oh, I was swallowing it.
00:33:09.660 Doctor, there's no way this hasn't come up on Poog, gave me a Xerox.
00:33:13.840 He made a photocopy, handed me a Xerox thing.
00:33:16.740 This is 15 years ago.
00:33:18.080 Okay, that sounds interesting.
00:33:18.920 And it was called like hysterica globosina.
00:33:22.900 Yes, yes. 1.00
00:33:23.600 It was like what hysterical women are like, there's something in my throat. 1.00
00:33:29.020 Yeah. 1.00
00:33:29.680 And it went away.
00:33:30.820 And then, you know, and the pill swallowing thing went away.
00:33:33.560 Now I can swallow pills till the cows come home.
00:33:37.980 I still do them one at a time. 0.99
00:33:39.660 Something gets fucked for me. 0.99
00:33:41.440 I'll do two. 1.00
00:33:42.300 I'll pop two.
00:33:43.020 I can't.
00:33:43.320 I don't know.
00:33:43.920 I don't know why.
00:33:44.900 Just confuses me.
00:33:46.060 I mean, I could do two if they were connected.
00:33:48.780 The one horse pill.
00:33:50.600 Oh, yeah.
00:33:51.300 As they say, I do not swallow it dry.
00:33:53.980 Oh, of course not.
00:33:55.280 I need water.
00:33:56.440 Okay.
00:33:57.120 I prefer a capsule.
00:33:58.560 Yeah, I need it to go down.
00:33:59.400 I always feel it's stuck.
00:34:00.840 Yeah.
00:34:01.200 It's the luxury of an Advil liquid gel.
00:34:04.760 Down it goes.
00:34:06.220 Okay.
00:34:06.660 The trust that I have in Advil
00:34:09.060 to get the job done
00:34:10.440 is unbelievable.
00:34:12.740 It's like...
00:34:13.240 By the way,
00:34:13.580 I would love to hug someone
00:34:15.400 who works at Advil.
00:34:16.900 Like I would trust someone.
00:34:18.220 If someone said to me,
00:34:18.920 I'm at the top inner circle
00:34:21.360 of the Advil people,
00:34:22.940 wouldn't you just instantly feel...
00:34:25.060 Talk about brand loyalty.
00:34:26.620 I think in like maybe 1938
00:34:28.680 or something.
00:34:29.240 I'd be like a celebrity.
00:34:30.340 I think it's a little too far by now.
00:34:31.620 If someone said to me,
00:34:32.300 that's what it is.
00:34:33.120 It's not even...
00:34:33.460 It's just that...
00:34:34.000 There is no one at the top anymore
00:34:35.200 that's like...
00:34:35.840 Right.
00:34:36.040 It's like P&G or whatever. 1.00
00:34:38.560 God damn it. 1.00
00:34:39.360 Of course, I'm such a fucking idiot. 1.00
00:34:40.840 I don't know. 1.00
00:34:41.900 My romance about a company.
00:34:45.020 Tylenol always seems like child's play, unfortunately,
00:34:47.960 because the idea that it's safe for children
00:34:51.920 because the whole thing with Advil,
00:34:54.900 ibuprofen versus acetaminophen.
00:34:56.940 But acetaminophen is worse on the stomach, I believe.
00:35:00.800 Oh, really?
00:35:01.580 Is it that way?
00:35:02.440 Maybe I have it backwards.
00:35:03.560 Acetaminophen, that's why I'm more of an ibuprofen.
00:35:05.900 Then like someone hands you a Bayer and you go, what the hell is going on?
00:35:10.440 What are the other ones?
00:35:11.180 Alive?
00:35:11.760 Alive is great, but not to be messed with.
00:35:14.140 Alive is intense.
00:35:15.420 The word Advil to me.
00:35:17.460 Yeah.
00:35:18.140 Has a strong.
00:35:19.600 Advil.
00:35:20.140 Association with my mother, I think, because she had headaches and taking them as a child.
00:35:24.700 It was like adult.
00:35:25.880 It was my mother taking an Advil.
00:35:28.440 I don't know.
00:35:29.380 I don't know if I've got it right.
00:35:30.560 I triggered your memory because I took half a migraine pill and you were like, that's so.
00:35:34.580 Oh.
00:35:35.900 You actually said it was a very Jewish woman thing to do. 1.00
00:35:39.160 To be like, I need half to snap a pill in half. 1.00
00:35:41.920 Half will do.
00:35:42.520 Yeah, there's something. 1.00
00:35:44.760 Just like.
00:35:47.540 God, there was a great moment when I was in Italy and I walked into the store and I wanted to see if they had any towels and I couldn't see any.
00:35:53.560 And then all I could do, there was the language barrier.
00:35:56.960 And I just did the gesture of whipping a towel onto the sand.
00:36:00.500 No way.
00:36:01.280 And he instantly knew
00:36:03.820 And we laughed together hysterically
00:36:06.140 It was phenomenal
00:36:08.300 To put in place the limitation
00:36:10.860 And then just transcend it
00:36:12.840 Incredible
00:36:14.040 It's better than if there hadn't been one at all
00:36:16.460 But that's a common principle for you and me
00:36:19.060 Do you like my white shirt?
00:36:20.540 Yeah, I noticed it
00:36:21.420 I love a white shirt
00:36:22.400 I've gone down a path
00:36:24.340 The oversized button down
00:36:27.020 Just really works for me
00:36:29.020 And, and I went to the dentist.
00:36:34.540 You did?
00:36:34.940 It was wild.
00:36:36.900 I, yeah, they, you know how they measure the gums?
00:36:40.680 I mean, when they go two, four, three, four.
00:36:43.340 Yeah.
00:36:43.780 You want four, right?
00:36:44.940 Or you want, four is the best or four is the worst?
00:36:47.500 Well, six is the worst or nine, you know what I mean?
00:36:50.260 But, but yeah, smaller, better, right?
00:36:51.560 Yeah.
00:36:52.160 But you want one, one, one.
00:36:53.960 Yeah.
00:36:54.380 Well, no, no.
00:36:55.100 I mean, I think, I don't know if one is even,
00:36:57.480 I think they said to me something like twos and threes or ones twos and threes what you don't 0.85
00:37:02.040 I remember I had a couple fours and I was like fuck oh yeah yeah no no I mean but I had a couple 0.63
00:37:08.440 weeks before purchased um like a at-home tooth like scaler or whatever an electric one that 0.93
00:37:17.320 people were like this changed my life like they're like I have fear of going to the dentist and now
00:37:21.120 I go like once every three years and they say like my teeth are incredible like they scale
00:37:24.540 Oh God, I can't.
00:37:26.860 Oh God, just the sound of that alone.
00:37:29.000 Well, I hate the sensitive thing.
00:37:32.960 I think it's like absolute hell where you have,
00:37:35.080 I don't mind the pain.
00:37:36.100 I mind the sensitivity.
00:37:37.420 And I feel like that term gets confused a lot.
00:37:39.700 Some people think they're saying you're sensitive,
00:37:41.220 like you're sensitive gums.
00:37:42.360 Like, ooh, ow, that's a sharp object is my gum.
00:37:44.980 No, I'm talking about deep nerve pain, okay?
00:37:47.000 Oh Jesus.
00:37:47.780 Or nerve zaps.
00:37:49.700 And it's just, it's so unbearable
00:37:52.160 that it was making me not want to go to the dentist.
00:37:53.560 So I decided I'm going to order this thing, do it at home to try to prepare for the dentist, to try to like take some of the work off their plate, even if it takes three hours.
00:38:02.520 Okay.
00:38:03.100 And then I could do it at my pace, like have the horrible zap and like breathe.
00:38:07.480 So I got it and I love a gadget and whatever.
00:38:10.360 And it was like, I was like doing it and it was like, and I was just sort of doing it on the front teeth, the back of the front teeth and whatever. 0.93
00:38:16.740 And then like set it aside and it fucking felt clean, man.
00:38:20.940 And it was, it felt, it felt like post-dentist. 0.97
00:38:24.440 It was like, it was real.
00:38:26.540 Okay.
00:38:27.360 And, and then I go in and then like a week and a half later or something. 1.00
00:38:32.900 And, you know, fuck it, let's go in. 0.99
00:38:35.020 And they're going, they're going. 1.00
00:38:37.480 And they're like two, three, two, three, two, three.
00:38:39.660 And then they're like one, two, one, one, two.
00:38:42.880 Literally the ones that I had done.
00:38:45.040 You only did the ones?
00:38:46.220 I had only done, like when I approached, when I was trying out the scaler,
00:38:50.660 because I wanted to see how it went
00:38:52.220 or if it caused sensitivity.
00:38:54.100 I had just done the front six teeth on the bottom
00:38:56.920 and we're going to have pads.
00:38:58.500 So it's like I had done my own deep cleaning.
00:39:00.820 The gums had regenerated thus, okay?
00:39:03.200 And so my numbers were better.
00:39:04.540 That's a huge ad. 0.99
00:39:06.040 Can you fucking believe that? 0.99
00:39:07.080 On the teeth I had done, I didn't say anything. 0.99
00:39:08.840 They don't always like to hear about you getting gadgets at home.
00:39:11.380 No, they don't want you to.
00:39:12.340 They want you coming in every three months 0.60
00:39:13.820 on your hands and knees begging.
00:39:16.280 I went in and I was like,
00:39:17.000 I just haven't been taking good enough care of my teeth.
00:39:20.660 I was like, I just haven't like, I know, okay.
00:39:23.760 Like I've not been up to snuff on my flossing.
00:39:25.640 Like I'm like, it's either three times a day or not at all.
00:39:29.120 I'm just tired of the lies.
00:39:31.100 You know what I mean?
00:39:31.640 Like I'm tired of pretending that there's anything even when it's not even.
00:39:36.760 You know what I mean?
00:39:37.300 Like for me, like, I mean, if it's not even, it's not even.
00:39:39.480 So it's like, it's sort of like, yeah, like sometimes it's,
00:39:42.300 it's really good and sometimes it's not. 0.99
00:39:43.760 That's the fucking fact. 0.97
00:39:44.800 Of course, balance is not, is a, is an ideal, not achievable in real life. 0.99
00:39:50.200 yeah and also
00:39:51.240 and not to be
00:39:51.980 and not to be even
00:39:53.040 wished for
00:39:54.860 aimed for
00:39:55.420 yeah
00:39:55.880 well Harmony
00:39:56.620 I once heard
00:39:57.380 Ayanna Van Zandt say
00:39:59.320 whoa
00:40:00.100 I haven't thought about Ayanna
00:40:01.640 Ayanna
00:40:02.520 yeah
00:40:03.520 I don't know if I even said it
00:40:05.960 perfect
00:40:06.100 used to watch those shows
00:40:07.440 yeah
00:40:07.880 but about
00:40:08.740 she was talking about
00:40:10.040 Harmony over balance
00:40:11.100 you know
00:40:13.700 it's like
00:40:14.520 okay let me divide my life
00:40:16.380 into five parts
00:40:17.360 and each of them deserve
00:40:18.700 it's like
00:40:19.760 Yeah, we're not supposed to be balanced.
00:40:22.020 That's not...
00:40:22.560 It's sort of like,
00:40:23.640 no, maybe you don't spend X amount of time
00:40:25.920 with your kids each day.
00:40:28.040 That was your example.
00:40:29.020 But it was like,
00:40:29.700 I can't remember what it was,
00:40:30.720 but it had that vibe.
00:40:32.000 But it's like,
00:40:32.940 maybe in your life,
00:40:33.820 it's like four straight days with the kids
00:40:35.900 and then two where you're at your job
00:40:37.740 and then one...
00:40:38.580 I don't know.
00:40:39.160 It was just the point was
00:40:40.300 if it's in harmony.
00:40:42.760 I mean, also,
00:40:43.420 when you think about this balance, right?
00:40:46.240 I feel like everyone says balance
00:40:48.520 and they immediately divide everything into equal parts.
00:40:51.840 Like the same amount on this side of the scale
00:40:53.540 as in this side of the scale.
00:40:54.640 But as we know, when you think about a scale,
00:40:57.200 you could have five little stones over here
00:40:59.100 and one big stone over here. 1.00
00:41:00.260 Oh, damn. 1.00
00:41:01.180 And is that not balanced? 1.00
00:41:02.520 And there's the teacher in you.
00:41:04.060 There you are.
00:41:05.420 And that's when you should be teaching.
00:41:10.840 No.
00:41:12.120 Sorry, I suddenly feel like
00:41:13.620 I just got totally entranced by it.
00:41:16.740 Your own hand?
00:41:17.220 Almost as if I were on drugs.
00:41:18.720 Yeah.
00:41:18.940 Or just seeing my recording as we always do, but something, I can't explain it.
00:41:24.380 It's not even worth it.
00:41:25.580 No, I saw you kind of, your gaze following me.
00:41:28.500 I had a minor psychedelic experience.
00:41:31.800 I feel like, what did I want to tell you?
00:41:35.360 Oh, you were struggling to read the other day, right?
00:41:37.540 You were like, I can't focus.
00:41:39.020 And then I had thoughts about AD.
00:41:40.860 So I want to say this.
00:41:41.980 I was thinking about Pug this morning.
00:41:43.280 I was like, mornings could be huge.
00:41:44.440 went to bed early last night tucked in passed out cold woke up 6 30 naturally shocking
00:41:51.280 read for a full hour and i thought oh mornings in bed or in the sun no i made coffee and i came
00:42:00.880 into my living room and i read on my couch i'm scared to get off the celsius is making me realize
00:42:06.160 i'm realizing i'm afraid because sorry i'm just thinking about the mornings that means that you're
00:42:10.040 really addicted oh wait wait hang on i kind of didn't realize what was going on not first how
00:42:14.180 How many Celsius, so you're doing it every day?
00:42:16.260 Yeah.
00:42:17.080 Oh, Jacqueline.
00:42:17.700 It's just, it's like this afternoon refresher and it's, I'm there for the flavor and I'm
00:42:22.760 sure that's not all I'm there for.
00:42:24.120 Oh yeah.
00:42:24.460 You're not there.
00:42:24.940 You're there for the tourmaline or, yeah.
00:42:28.060 I was drinking some Celsius as, as you know, in New York and I had to get off of it because,
00:42:33.740 and sometimes I would drink one and I would be flying in a way that was like uncomfortable.
00:42:38.300 I mean, I just want to Google really quick Celsius.
00:42:41.820 Yeah.
00:42:42.140 Hit it.
00:42:42.440 Hit it at Google.
00:42:43.120 but they're just talking about it being
00:42:48.820 like caffeine and I already
00:42:50.700 drink that
00:42:51.740 you know
00:42:53.180 I mean there's other things in there I don't know
00:42:56.520 I don't know they're going to be a sponsor
00:42:58.600 of a like Red Bull they're going to be an F1
00:43:00.500 sponsor of some team I forget who
00:43:01.960 they absolutely are
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00:46:51.520 I need a facial.
00:46:52.740 I need it now.
00:46:53.500 I don't know where.
00:46:54.360 Oh, yeah. We're going to get you a Tracy Martin facial.
00:46:58.260 Oh, really?
00:46:59.340 Yeah.
00:46:59.880 And where is that?
00:47:00.800 New York. I don't know where.
00:47:02.880 Shit. And is that like two days before? 1.00
00:47:05.360 Yeah.
00:47:05.780 When do I do it?
00:47:06.820 I think three. I think within the week. No downtime.
00:47:10.200 All right. So the question right now is I need to do the couple week out version.
00:47:16.120 Here's the real question. It's countdown time. Which skincare do I go with?
00:47:21.760 I think you're fine. 1.00
00:47:22.820 The fuck? 1.00
00:47:23.380 I think 1.00
00:47:23.940 nothing
00:47:24.620 just if
00:47:26.140 if powder
00:47:26.740 I'm afraid
00:47:27.460 what if the makeup artist
00:47:28.540 like
00:47:28.900 what if it's not a match
00:47:30.360 you know what I'm really
00:47:31.580 I have to say
00:47:32.420 if a line
00:47:33.740 that I just
00:47:34.360 it's just
00:47:35.580 is
00:47:36.200 do skin
00:47:37.140 do skin
00:47:37.760 oh what is that 1.00
00:47:38.900 D-I-E-X 1.00
00:47:40.500 oh 0.99
00:47:40.960 they've sent us something
00:47:42.540 they have a really nice
00:47:43.760 the serum
00:47:44.560 emollient
00:47:45.440 and the
00:47:46.000 the moisturizer
00:47:47.960 is really good
00:47:48.940 the moisturizer
00:47:49.720 in the like
00:47:50.420 Marvis tube
00:47:51.280 yeah
00:47:51.940 right
00:47:52.380 it's the Marvis tube
00:47:53.120 Which I enjoy
00:47:53.960 The metal
00:47:55.100 Yeah that's satisfying
00:47:56.680 I have because we all know
00:47:57.640 When Sturm caved in the 80s
00:47:59.460 I had saved this like
00:48:00.860 Anti-aging pot of
00:48:02.460 Facial moisturizer
00:48:04.400 But I'm using it at home
00:48:05.540 But again it isn't a pot
00:48:06.780 Well you know what
00:48:07.380 My new version with the pot is
00:48:09.400 You just 1.00
00:48:10.440 You fucking commit 1.00
00:48:11.660 And you use it by the handful 1.00
00:48:13.780 By the handful?
00:48:16.400 What do you mean?
00:48:17.680 Well relatively
00:48:18.400 If it's an eye cream
00:48:19.500 Like you do not 1.00
00:48:21.040 Skimp
00:48:21.540 Because it's aerated
00:48:23.100 because you want it to be,
00:48:24.760 that's what I'm saying.
00:48:25.340 You want to use it up.
00:48:26.240 You got to use it up.
00:48:26.940 And the tiny spoons,
00:48:28.740 the whole thing with the tiny spoons 0.98
00:48:30.120 are not fucking working. 0.98
00:48:30.640 When they give you a little spoon, 0.99
00:48:32.180 it's what are you talking about?
00:48:34.520 For once.
00:48:34.880 And by the way,
00:48:35.320 what are you talking about?
00:48:37.320 So this is a spoon
00:48:38.340 that I have just jangling around
00:48:41.880 that I'm going to scoop out this product with
00:48:44.300 for the rest of my life.
00:48:45.220 And then I bought a little container of mini spoons.
00:48:48.140 I was like,
00:48:48.580 okay, there's going to be a basket of mini spoons
00:48:50.600 and I just grabbed for them.
00:48:52.140 Okay.
00:48:52.400 No way. 0.96
00:48:52.800 And those have become just, it just doesn't, so the new thing is dive in, you know, with your dirty fingers. 0.95
00:49:01.140 Neck and chest.
00:49:02.180 Because usually a stern like that would be like, I'm not going to put that on my neck and my chest.
00:49:05.800 I want it just on the face, but I'm doing it all.
00:49:08.000 Oh, yeah.
00:49:08.760 Last night, I threw on some face gym.
00:49:10.920 Oh, I'm thinking about doing like face gym like intensely.
00:49:14.740 I want to go to kosher spa so bad.
00:49:16.740 I want to kosher buckle massage.
00:49:18.660 if Face Zoom doesn't add
00:49:20.400 buckle massage 0.76
00:49:21.220 where they go in your mouth
00:49:22.280 and work the jaw
00:49:23.200 and the buckle
00:49:24.760 someone was just telling you about this
00:49:26.280 who?
00:49:26.940 if they don't get that
00:49:28.400 in their regimen
00:49:29.180 I think it's an error
00:49:30.340 because
00:49:30.920 it's the trend
00:49:32.520 it's the future
00:49:33.300 and they need to have it 0.99
00:49:35.100 on the fucking menu 1.00
00:49:36.000 I mean you're 1.00
00:49:37.120 you're a face massage place
00:49:38.400 so
00:49:38.960 that's my
00:49:39.960 yeah going in
00:49:40.620 I also want to try their
00:49:41.480 micro stamping
00:49:42.500 stamping
00:49:43.600 vitamin shot tool
00:49:45.040 whoa
00:49:45.560 it's like instead of rolling
00:49:47.060 the needles across you
00:49:48.300 is just one stamp
00:49:49.460 which makes sense to me
00:49:50.540 and in goes the serum.
00:49:52.520 I've been always scared
00:49:53.100 to roll the needles
00:49:54.600 across the face.
00:49:55.080 I know you have.
00:49:56.080 I know.
00:49:57.220 I,
00:49:57.660 yeah,
00:49:59.360 and then I just,
00:49:59.980 I go to sleep
00:50:00.560 watching Dateline
00:50:02.060 and
00:50:02.740 knocks me,
00:50:05.340 knocks me right out.
00:50:06.720 Are you watching Dateline live?
00:50:08.780 Like you're like,
00:50:09.400 No.
00:50:10.040 Is,
00:50:10.480 because I haven't watched.
00:50:11.120 there's like 20,
00:50:12.560 there's like 40 seasons.
00:50:13.960 Is Dateline all murder?
00:50:15.540 I think there was a time
00:50:16.660 when it wasn't.
00:50:17.360 I'm not sure.
00:50:19.360 Maybe it always was, but it really is.
00:50:22.420 And I just trust those people.
00:50:25.240 Yeah, them and the Advil people.
00:50:27.300 Yeah, yeah.
00:50:27.780 Get those together.
00:50:28.660 They know each other.
00:50:29.860 Yeah, imagine just going to the...
00:50:31.600 Just imagine you're lost.
00:50:33.240 Okay, you're lost and you don't know where you are
00:50:35.020 and you're in a town and you hitchhike
00:50:36.400 and you just land in some neighborhood
00:50:37.660 and you see the light on in a window
00:50:39.120 and you go up and you knock on the door
00:50:41.420 and the main guy from Dateline,
00:50:44.140 perhaps saying main is rude.
00:50:45.900 Frankly, any of them.
00:50:46.760 the Dateline guy who now has white hair
00:50:48.840 and is super classic.
00:50:50.320 Yeah, of course.
00:50:51.300 He looks like an old therapist of mine.
00:50:53.460 Donald.
00:50:53.780 I think I had that thought
00:50:54.740 while I was watching the show.
00:50:56.020 He looks like he was my therapist.
00:50:57.860 You're joking.
00:50:58.600 Because they do this really specific thing
00:51:01.180 on Dateline where they go,
00:51:03.060 they'll be talking to someone and they go,
00:51:04.800 and it'll be the moment.
00:51:05.840 So it's all about someone's murder, right?
00:51:07.740 Yeah.
00:51:08.180 They're talking to a family member, interviewing.
00:51:10.140 And they'll be like,
00:51:10.720 the person will be like,
00:51:11.700 you know, whatever.
00:51:12.920 Like when they were a kid,
00:51:13.880 they were just, you know,
00:51:14.700 they got into all sorts of trouble.
00:51:16.760 you couldn't turn your head away you know they were and then and then the dateline interview
00:51:20.320 or whoever they are will be like be like oh they were one of those like uh whatever kid like they'll
00:51:25.160 they'll feed back to them whatever the thing is okay like you know it's like they're like they
00:51:30.140 let up a room or something and they're like oh couldn't couldn't go into a room without making
00:51:33.920 a couple people smile hey one of those they're like like i'm not doing really bad examples but
00:51:39.060 it's like they feed it back and they mirror the emotional tenor of the memory which was always
00:51:44.500 something I always heard pitched in acting, which I never thought rang true. And it's not
00:51:50.440 totally not true because I've watched for it ever since. This, okay, this idea like in acting that's
00:51:54.420 like, I'm just so upset because we're losing the house. And, you know, and that's where I first
00:51:59.540 learned to bike ride with my father. He made the goofiest faces. And there he just, the way he
00:52:08.160 looks at me when I am turning, it's just great. Yeah. It's like, you're like, you're lost in the
00:52:13.720 memory and the emotion of the memory and I've like never found that to be human like I'm like
00:52:18.600 yes occasionally you can get distracted enough you're right that is such an acting trope and um
00:52:24.780 I remember he um yeah he always loved his fudge like being brought to laughter like the way he
00:52:34.020 just he's trying to get in his mouth and it ends up on his nose okay and then like suddenly
00:52:41.020 remembering the present I mean it's insane yeah yeah but so so but the date line they do it so
00:52:47.380 elegantly somehow they're like they're like it's like they have all the lines ready like
00:52:52.640 it'd be like you know yeah he was Mr. Fix-It or whatever and they're like they're like oh the
00:52:57.620 kind of guy you call when you're on the side of the road eh like I know but they do it they're
00:53:02.080 really good it's almost like the reason to go on date line like if nothing else is to sort of
00:53:08.500 experienced the therapeutic eye of the Dateline people.
00:53:15.000 Like if you've processed murders as a viewer of Dateline for years, right?
00:53:20.000 Yeah.
00:53:20.600 You've watched people be in pain.
00:53:22.780 You've watched people, you know,
00:53:24.680 get chopped on up, get chopped on up.
00:53:26.680 And then no, but like, but like the family and stuff.
00:53:28.760 And then you see like them process it with Dateline.
00:53:30.360 I really haven't watched it almost ever.
00:53:32.660 I have to be honest.
00:53:33.560 I mean, I know that guy, but yeah.
00:53:35.460 And that guy does look like Donald, my ex-therapist who,
00:53:38.500 x is too dramatic
00:53:39.680 I can't believe you
00:53:41.820 well by the way
00:53:42.380 the only way I left
00:53:43.760 is I went to college
00:53:44.720 oh
00:53:45.840 and he sent me
00:53:46.480 Nashville Skyline
00:53:47.220 he's not the one
00:53:47.880 in the mail
00:53:48.380 wait what
00:53:49.020 he sent you what
00:53:49.820 he sent me
00:53:50.360 Nashville Skyline
00:53:51.120 but Bob Dylan
00:53:51.660 in the mail
00:53:52.180 at college
00:53:53.140 yeah
00:53:53.600 seems inappropriate
00:53:54.800 we've been through this
00:53:56.100 yeah but that's what I like
00:53:57.180 wait is he the one
00:53:57.320 that cried and begged you
00:53:58.300 to stay and not go to college
00:53:59.680 so you can continue
00:54:00.480 your therapeutic work together
00:54:01.960 essentially yeah
00:54:03.960 those are the other tutors
00:54:05.560 oh right
00:54:06.400 right the tutors
00:54:08.100 who sabotage your efforts. 0.91
00:54:10.280 I'd be really perverted.
00:54:11.580 To fly free.
00:54:12.180 They sabotage your efforts to graduate.
00:54:14.300 You're not ready for college.
00:54:15.620 I think you need another couple of years
00:54:16.740 here with us at home.
00:54:18.660 Yeah.
00:54:20.180 But then I think if you've processed those murders,
00:54:24.940 then for you, it's like ritual.
00:54:27.280 It's like the Shiva.
00:54:28.920 It's whatever.
00:54:29.440 It's like you've seen others heal
00:54:31.920 and deal via across the dateline storytelling.
00:54:36.680 You see them walking afterwards and by the memorial and now they're, you know, now it's mostly the good memories.
00:54:42.320 And now that the person has been, you know, their death vanquished, whatever.
00:54:48.180 So it'd be almost like, yeah, let me go on Dateline because then I know I too shall heal.
00:54:52.520 You know what I mean?
00:54:54.340 You just a Dateline that's just your therapy?
00:54:56.720 Yeah, as a therapeutic process because the aloneness of feeling like this horrifying thing is happening,
00:55:03.060 there'd be something almost about being plugged in.
00:55:06.680 You're just, yes, you're another episode on Dateline.
00:55:10.060 There's hundreds.
00:55:11.420 Right, right, right.
00:55:12.500 You, like other families, have been destroyed.
00:55:15.200 Oh, God.
00:55:16.940 And Dateline's here to catch you.
00:55:18.860 They're really good.
00:55:20.440 Really?
00:55:21.340 At like, at the listening. 1.00
00:55:23.420 Fuck. 1.00
00:55:24.900 That's because it's hard to fake. 1.00
00:55:26.300 Or is it?
00:55:27.940 One of the huge questions of life.
00:55:31.160 There's just something.
00:55:32.260 There's something.
00:55:33.940 Yeah, but Dateline.
00:55:36.680 Yellow jackets, television in the night, eating a 5% yogurt.
00:55:43.520 Last night, I experimented with a way to make it longer.
00:55:46.000 What's that?
00:55:47.060 Last longer.
00:55:47.940 Do you want to know what it was?
00:55:48.860 What?
00:55:49.580 Well, I have been experimenting.
00:55:51.120 I think I've already spoken about this, about really chewing the food because there's flavor
00:55:55.180 that you miss.
00:55:56.000 Right.
00:55:56.520 If it just goes right down.
00:55:57.560 Surface area.
00:55:58.440 I'm like, wait, I can have six bites where I normally was having one bite.
00:56:02.960 Because I'm like, yum, yum, yum, yum, yum.
00:56:06.680 Less yum.
00:56:08.000 Six to one.
00:56:09.120 That's a lot.
00:56:10.040 Well, I mean, you can put something in your mouth and just knock it down.
00:56:12.760 No, I'm saying if you're breaking, if you're saying there's six bites in the one that you're taking.
00:56:17.520 That's what I'm saying.
00:56:18.440 Kate, there's like 26 bites.
00:56:20.260 You ever hear that thing?
00:56:21.100 You're supposed to chew 25 times before you swallow?
00:56:23.620 Oh, I'm sorry.
00:56:24.600 I thought you were talking about like air surface area of the bite itself.
00:56:28.620 Right.
00:56:28.880 I see what you're saying.
00:56:30.320 You're still breaking.
00:56:31.280 No, I have a memory of a child, my mother's friend saying,
00:56:34.760 you're supposed to coat everything in your saliva that you eat.
00:56:38.460 Right.
00:56:39.220 I mean, talk about-
00:56:40.120 And that's technically true.
00:56:41.180 I have like eight memories and that's one of them.
00:56:42.680 Yeah.
00:56:42.920 Because digestion begins in the mouth with a salivary amylase.
00:56:47.200 Well, I said that to someone once and I said this to a doctor and they were like, no.
00:56:50.600 I was like, well, your intestines, the beginning of your intestines are your lips.
00:56:55.660 And she was like, that's not true.
00:56:57.880 yeah right here end of the road yeah he's seeing tunes right out of here it is 1.00
00:57:04.860 right the lips the top end of the asshole yeah exactly 1.00
00:57:11.000 okay that's enough for one day i'm gonna eat a glow nut i'm gonna go purchase a glow nut 1.00
00:57:21.160 uh wait what should i by the way we've earned our glow nuts it's time for them to yeah it's time
00:57:26.300 If I go to Erewhon
00:57:27.740 And I go to the tonic bar
00:57:29.140 Yeah
00:57:29.640 Got any recs?
00:57:30.860 Oof
00:57:31.100 You mean like a
00:57:31.920 A drink
00:57:32.560 So
00:57:33.320 Or a smoothie
00:57:34.120 The smoothie that I get there is the green one
00:57:36.000 I don't really like the other ones
00:57:37.360 Right
00:57:37.780 They do a tonic that if
00:57:41.100 That is
00:57:41.940 It's fun
00:57:43.200 It's like sparkling and it's green
00:57:45.220 And it has like minerals in it
00:57:46.560 And it's kind of salty
00:57:47.500 Mmm
00:57:48.680 I haven't had that in a long long time
00:57:50.500 I'm just scared they get a little loosey goosey back there 1.00
00:57:52.780 With their fucking chia 1.00
00:57:53.700 It's always a risk 1.00
00:57:55.020 I bet they're pretty
00:57:55.880 strict back there.
00:57:57.460 You'd think so,
00:57:58.240 but have you heard this?
00:58:00.300 Like,
00:58:01.160 is Trader Joe's food?
00:58:02.780 Like,
00:58:03.100 is Trader Joe a farmer?
00:58:04.940 Do you know what I'm saying?
00:58:06.620 Even remotely?
00:58:07.720 Was that ever the case?
00:58:08.880 Maybe in like 1902.
00:58:10.300 Is Trader Joe's quality?
00:58:11.980 That's my question.
00:58:13.080 Well,
00:58:13.720 obviously we all know
00:58:14.500 I won't touch their produce,
00:58:16.500 but the staples and stuff
00:58:17.700 is great stuff there for sure.
00:58:19.020 The produce is not relevant.
00:58:21.400 All I've ever seen,
00:58:22.120 all I've ever seen
00:58:23.060 are two conventional onions
00:58:25.160 wrapped in cellophane and like, like plastic.
00:58:28.840 There's so much.
00:58:30.220 They'll put like two zucchinis plastic wrapped
00:58:33.400 with styrofoam backing.
00:58:35.640 Like it's like bizarre.
00:58:37.140 Cintrapped?
00:58:37.440 Yeah.
00:58:37.640 And then they do a lot of, I've just, I've always,
00:58:40.160 I mean, I think, yeah, if you want to get probably lemons,
00:58:42.500 onions, potatoes, things like that.
00:58:44.360 But I mean, the greens have always been a bit devastating to me.
00:58:48.500 But I haven't been in a long time because I'm,
00:58:50.740 because there's a myth in my mind,
00:58:52.420 which I should actually, I should go to Trader Joe's next week.
00:58:55.160 Because in my mind, I carry this thing of like, Trader Joe's is packed.
00:58:59.920 The lines are crazy.
00:59:02.000 I don't know if that's real.
00:59:03.420 If it's real anymore.
00:59:04.960 Also, I don't have a life where I'm not on the schedule.
00:59:07.520 I can go anytime.
00:59:08.820 It's not 2007 in New York City on 14th Street.
00:59:11.780 Well, that's actually what it is.
00:59:13.060 It's not 5.30 PM.
00:59:14.120 I used to go to the 14th Street Trader Joe's when I was 19, 20.
00:59:21.680 Too true.
00:59:22.680 And they had the Trader Joe's wine store next door.
00:59:24.540 Right across from P.C. Richards and Sons.
00:59:27.800 Yep.
00:59:28.420 Yep.
00:59:29.420 Max Brown Chocolatier.
00:59:31.000 Yeah, the wine store as well.
00:59:32.340 And the whole feeling and the whole lines and the signs, the signs, you know?
00:59:36.380 Oh, yeah, the signs.
00:59:38.500 Okay, well, we got to go.
00:59:41.180 Do we?
00:59:41.600 There's no easy way to say it.
00:59:42.900 We got to go.
00:59:43.640 I'm just trying to think, you know, on tour now.
00:59:49.580 If you don't have your tickets here for the special, see ya, you know, whatever.
00:59:52.980 It's fine.
00:59:53.260 Who cares?
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