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00:01:34.840 Hi, I'm Kate Verlant.

00:01:36.300 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:01:37.400 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

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00:01:49.320 Today's topic, loosely speaking, off-gassing.

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00:01:55.300 I just wanted to say that I'm living in Pittsburgh right now, which is the third

00:02:03.300 rainiest city in America. Is that true? Yes. Have they been saying that a lot? I've heard it once,

00:02:07.780 never cross-referenced, but I accepted it instantly as doctrine. And right now it's

00:02:13.020 pouring rain, thunder, lightning, and it happens constantly. I don't hear a single drop. It's

00:02:18.480 devastating because it is one of the most comforting sounds. Why doesn't everyone have

00:02:22.300 have a tin roof for the purpose of hearing the rain if even if it was on top of another thing

00:02:28.220 by the way would you like to hear one of the most beautiful songs ever what song rain falls

00:02:33.140 angry on the tin roof is it on me awake in our bed what is that that's um i don't know what it

00:02:42.740 is but it's the best me oh wait edwin mccain yeah i'll be that's used in the is it could it be is

00:02:51.880 the lyric love suicide but it's quite simply beautiful and anytime anyone's saying it on

00:03:00.940 american idol you feel it yeah it's a beautiful song and it's also and like i'll be better when

00:03:05.900 i'm older i think is a really i was by the way i was about to isolate that line

00:03:09.040 that i've never heard anyone say i think that's remarkable the power of music the danger of music

00:03:17.380 to bring us into certain moods i self-mutilate with music i i i i i am so i'm stuttering with

00:03:24.380 excitement because a lot of people don't know this about me okay i i basically had to cut music

00:03:29.880 out of my life like many like many cut it cut a drug okay now of course there's some under my

00:03:36.880 audio meditation no but i would have i remember it starting in high school with like musicals

00:03:40.860 like i remember almost like breaking down in the car like because i was like so addicted to but

00:03:46.500 also exhausted from listening to rent okay it was like it was an it was compulsive and i don't know

00:03:54.300 there was something it was doing in my brain where it was like i know every word and i'm furious

00:03:58.300 i mean but you i remember talking specifically you we were in a hotel room in portland and i

00:04:03.780 was pining over some fool do you remember this i remember i had my headphones on and i was like

00:04:09.240 curled up in the fetal position listening to like shocking rare northern northern soul tracks and 0.97

00:04:15.180 you were like you need to stop doing this like you need to stop turning to the music to go deeper

00:04:20.980 into the to go deeper into the pining to go deeper in and that's something that i do do and the music

00:04:26.840 facilitates the extreme emotional state and the longing no it's it's interesting i i i mean how

00:04:33.000 i mean it's like that's digging a at a at a scab right yeah like there i think there is a perhaps

00:04:39.220 OCD element, right. In the belief that somehow going further and going right into the heart of

00:04:46.580 the storm, right. Will provide some kind of like relief or it's the fear of the feeling. And so

00:04:54.220 I'm going to go deeper into the feeling. Yeah. Yeah. Which was always, I mean, which, you know,

00:04:58.520 I, I, you know, it's, it's not, it's sort of nice to hear that story of me saying, you know,

00:05:01.860 don't do that because I at times feel guilt. Cause like my depression book is like me saying

00:05:06.680 do that basically or saying like

00:05:08.480 given given yeah yeah and

00:05:10.620 I think that's or given today

00:05:12.680 given while reading this book like this

00:05:14.400 book is a safe haven is the point

00:05:15.960 yeah the only way out is through

00:05:17.960 god where where where um

00:05:20.180 I mean like never is a promise

00:05:22.060 what's that Fiona Apple oh

00:05:24.300 um I don't follow

00:05:26.060 like that song no I

00:05:28.140 never is a

00:05:30.400 promise and you can't

00:05:32.220 afford the lie sorry I'm only

00:05:34.040 singing in the same Edwin McCain voice

00:05:35.820 i don't know i don't know like the full fiona catalog no i don't i mean there's like it's an

00:05:40.540 old one i mean i i'm fiona has an ability to cut through your sternum no it's just beautiful it's

00:05:46.620 like you'll say don't fear your dreams

00:05:49.680 remember when i was so sick and you didn't believe me oh my god

00:05:59.840 guess who took care of you okay if you had to you hated that okay okay you're dropped into a new

00:06:07.300 body okay this is like a movie a magical movie where you dropped into a new body whatever okay

00:06:11.500 and for whatever reason some 13 going on 30 type of thing yeah sorry keep going and for whatever

00:06:16.740 reason like the task at hand is that like you have to become you have to make yourself into

00:06:20.940 like a famous pop or just any kind of musician okay singer songwriter whatever okay with your

00:06:27.180 own tunes let's just say okay and you have like one day in this alternate world where it's like

00:06:31.980 kate if you can make it happen and it's not you so it's not attached to your own identity you're

00:06:36.900 in some obscure other body okay whatever or some some parallel universe but you've been dropped

00:06:42.240 into a life where they're like tomorrow's your audition for example okay tomorrow's the big

00:06:46.820 audition for being okay even though that's not how it works do you know what i'm saying so the

00:06:51.020 goal isn't artistic integrity or anything like that or what you want to be the goal is like you

00:06:55.820 get 10 million dollars if you can get the record contract people to sign on let's just say okay

00:07:01.100 question is and you have to go in there right now and you have to sing or fake an original 0.62

00:07:08.220 okay what's the song what is it and let's hear it fuck okay because the thing is like you you can 0.57

00:07:14.760 sing i imagine like you can sing pretty good right but i have to be clear no but the here's 0.62

00:07:21.280 my question are you saying it's my voice are you saying i can yeah i can adopt anyone's voice no

00:07:26.680 no i'm actually saying what would you do if right now it was 10 million dollars for you to commit

00:07:31.220 otis redding no i'm saying it has to be an original they're like in three two one and

00:07:39.540 right has to be an original that i'm writing in the moment like like you've been shoved into the

00:07:43.880 room like you're in a dream so like right here i'll give an example okay i'll try to do it but

00:07:47.720 not really okay so i have nothing it cannot be an existing song okay go and i can't overshoot my

00:07:52.240 voice so i don't even know what i'm doing okay okay i'd be like i like literally nothing okay

00:07:56.240 i'd be like it'd be like okay they're like go go okay right see i'm already waiting and i just

00:08:01.300 have to start and be like uh okay because it has to be a song there's no lyrics there okay it would

00:08:07.840 have to be like and i couldn't lean on previous like things i've written in my life nothing so

00:08:11.900 it's just like the chair ain't strong no more okay that's not it all right hold on all right

00:08:18.120 it's impossible just try try it's impossible that no i actually i refuse it's so scary i know but

00:08:23.980 that's why i just said the chair isn't strong anymore and like a like it was lame is it was

00:08:28.380 horrifying and i'm rain isn't uh i don't know i don't like this it's actually giving i really

00:08:35.420 actually don't like this game it's it's the worst game i mean it's it's a game i only feel safe

00:08:40.680 proposing because i don't think i'd be good at it do you see what i'm saying of course no if you

00:08:45.420 were to suddenly excel oh yeah right what if this was my way of like dropping an original on you

00:08:50.340 well that's what people classically do with singing singing singing is often weaponized

00:08:53.940 against the non-singing i find socially well and there's something that i can't it's very

00:08:59.420 difficult because i have i struggle my jealousy over those who can sing the ability to sing

00:09:04.820 if i could sing i can't even imagine the person i would be a monster i mean i would be monstrous

00:09:10.300 And I would be, you know, I just to have that power, to have that power over people is so closest profound for the instrument that you can sort of channel like the finest, let's say, like melodies and harmonies and whatever.

00:09:28.640 Right. Most let's say if you have the instrument in your goddamn throat, gullet and diaphragm or whatever. 0.98

00:09:34.880 OK. And you can thus sing the most beautiful things ever written by the most beautiful whatever. 0.99

00:09:39.960 Right. Yeah. Basically achieving something beyond human. Right. Like you're becoming a god.

00:09:47.300 Yes. You are becoming a god. But but I have a hostility toward people that think singing like here's what the godly status is the ability to have personality within the singing voice within the beauty.

00:09:57.300 right and that's the thing that is remarkably rare and a lot of people mistake they think 0.93

00:10:01.880 because they can sing in the scent of a you know in a peasant's sense in a bastard sense

00:10:07.540 they think somehow they're that the magic's working just because like you're hitting the

00:10:12.500 note people they sing like this okay this is what i was hoping for i have to be honest

00:10:16.820 this is what i was asking for earlier this is what makes me crazy it's like usually someone

00:10:21.780 who's had a cocktail or something and it's like it's what is it it's this very it's um i hate to 0.97

00:10:29.880 gender it but it's usually kind of like some bitch some like you know at a party or something 1.00

00:10:36.160 do it like that or just somewhere who's like he's like hey like okay like watch this does 1.00

00:10:42.900 this make me a singer okay i can't think of a song that way fuck um give me a little give me 0.82

00:10:48.800 one reason to stay here okay like that like what is that why don't you do the verse instead i don't 0.95

00:10:56.960 want no one to squeeze me okay that's the better verse what you were giving you were singing give

00:11:01.560 me one reason to stay here but here's my thing kate kate kate wait i need to say something yeah

00:11:08.320 the reason the game came up is because you did something with your voice earlier and i was

00:11:12.020 reminded of how you have the ability to do an impression of that kind of style or variety of

00:11:16.820 styles of singing. Right. And this would be a question for me is if you can do an impression

00:11:20.540 of a certain style of singing, how are you any different than the singer themselves? Right.

00:11:24.300 Okay. Now it's, of course it's the audacity to put the frame around it and say, this is my voice

00:11:29.000 and this is my art. Right. So like, I sometimes I'm like, could I like, is the only thing stopping

00:11:34.960 me from being not an opera singer? Okay. But like, like technically, like, is it just the balls to be

00:11:42.800 like that wasn't it i can't panic or like or like the balls to be like so i'm gonna treat my voice

00:11:53.080 like it's a thing yeah and some people it's that they just have yeah some people feel some people

00:11:59.100 and that's what the mastery of a certain style of singing does sometimes it's like the uncanny

00:12:04.700 valley right a term i've never fully been able to latch on to so uncanny valley from what i

00:12:10.120 understand yeah and it was explained to me um by dear friends that that like john early um no

00:12:17.020 because i had a conversation about it i'm sorry no um but but but the idea the perfect example is

00:12:22.980 tom hanks in the polar express okay which the animation is almost human right it's almost human

00:12:30.200 and yet it's not human right so is this live action no it's animation it comes right up to

00:12:35.540 the point of being real however it's not and it's exactly in that space of it almost being real

00:12:43.360 being almost so real but it being undeniably not real that's the uncanny valley when something is

00:12:47.840 like almost the thing but somehow it being so almost a thing but not the thing pronounces

00:12:53.500 how deeply it's not the thing so it's like someone who can imitate perfectly a certain style you go 0.86

00:12:58.820 oh wow cool yeah yeah no that sounds like that but it's fucking you're never you know that but 0.92

00:13:04.780 you're not that you're not like i can do a joanna newson like that's what i used to do see i'm 0.97

00:13:10.780 actually too embarrassed to do i can't do it because see i'm doing it right now i'm trying

00:13:14.140 to pretend okay okay like like okay um we speak in the song i don't even know the lyrics like

00:13:20.540 i am blue and darn well made me dog made me bow like a horse oh no no no no and i think joanna

00:13:32.440 is brilliant I think she has a prophetic voice and I think her you know she's an incredible

00:13:36.400 lyricist and all of that and so me doing that right this is huge this is huge go on go on

00:13:41.100 I can barely scream again for a million reasons unfortunately you're not what I'm not Joanna

00:13:45.740 Newsom no to my to my chagrin what to your knowledge you're not but um but that so I'm

00:13:55.460 like yeah the uncanny valley that is where a lot of people dwell I think artistically and creatively

00:14:00.680 And that's why so much doesn't work. And that's what, that is like the lightning bolt and the

00:14:05.160 visceral reaction to something that feels good because you're like, Oh no, that actually is

00:14:08.620 the thing. It's no longer this like, you know, kind of feeling around the dark to, to, to be

00:14:14.420 the thing. It just is it. Um, no, I have a, I have something to say, um, but I don't know where we're

00:14:20.120 at. Is it time for a break? No. Okay. We got like two minutes. Okay. So no, no, I'm blown away. And

00:14:24.900 there's, I may even, this just goes to show how these things work. I may even draw a comparison,

00:14:29.620 an irrelevant metaphor to tracy anderson okay and because i'm doing the workouts daily and so

00:14:35.160 it's amazing the way it just seeps in you know what you put in just stays um but but the thing

00:14:40.980 is right like because a lot of people believe that if they can do an impression as a singer

00:14:45.760 that they have somehow bested them or revealed like this is a bergsonian notion right that mimic

00:14:52.920 why is mimicry funny because it reveals that people are are a set of mechanical plastic yeah

00:14:58.900 yeah a set of mechanical repetitions that if it's repeatable and recognizable by that thing it

00:15:03.720 reveals how unconsciously that person's always doing the thing right yeah yeah so but it's like

00:15:09.900 just because someone can do an impression of a thing doesn't devalue it right correct like like

00:15:15.300 you're saying right so it's like and yet sometimes they think it can't and the difference is mimicry

00:15:20.340 versus here's i'm sorry i'm sorry this is like slow and boring but i have to get it out okay

00:15:24.640 because I've really been sticking, sticking in my craw recently. It's, it's so obvious and yet

00:15:29.840 so hard to perceive, but the difference between, um, someone mimicking someone's steps in any

00:15:36.160 sense, okay. Literal or not literal. And someone, okay. The perfect sort of sum up would be this

00:15:41.960 line of, um, don't seek to follow in your master's footsteps, seek what they sought. Okay. So the,

00:15:49.140 you know, it's like, what did Joanna Newsom say to herself when she wanted to sing? She didn't say,

00:15:53.820 i'm gonna try to sound like this thing right she's singing and that is the cast off of her

00:15:58.360 attempted singing there is a physical cast off but the voice right so then it's like so if i try to

00:16:04.520 sing what happens like like what gets in the way it's like it's like this thing i read about style

00:16:10.720 like in art or whatever being like the thing you do badly like that's like if everyone did the

00:16:17.900 thing perfectly it'd be the same style is like oh i actually don't articulate my words well or like

00:16:23.800 oh you know whatever whatever it is right anyway but the intention behind i think we're wrapping

00:16:28.420 up but the intention behind thing and this comes up in tracy anderson workouts because

00:16:31.520 you are following her movements but she wants you to discover them internally at the same time the

00:16:36.360 failure is doing it like it's the is the mimicry of the external that you're perceiving versus

00:16:42.280 the intent mimic not mimicking but understanding the intention doing it and then seeing like what

00:16:47.840 your body your voice anything does i don't know i think it's huge no i like that it's true you

00:16:52.420 gotta go to a break though okay let's go to break just when i've deadened it with abstraction

00:16:55.980 some of the people like it i am what i am folks

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00:18:36.620 Welcome back. I'm sorry. Welcome back. Hi.

00:18:40.540 Hi, doll.

00:18:41.620 oh i um see this is what i do i pick up a piece of metal and i just sort of drag it across my face

00:18:47.120 i want to say that i am um the pittsburgh sun blistering my face daily i did something that

00:18:53.700 caused me great harm which is i've been using alpha hydroxy aha pads on my face and then going 0.91

00:18:59.420 into the blistering sunlight every day for two weeks the fuck was i thinking the face became 0.90

00:19:04.440 red i'm fine i'm no longer sunburned but the point is i think i may return to los angeles 0.96

00:19:09.420 having age 62 years the deep grooves in the face um i just feel no this is exciting you know why

00:19:18.000 you know what's something that i here's you know my greatest fear is mold you know people they go

00:19:22.980 it was mold the whole time up in the ceiling and the walls and the air vents pittsburgh it

00:19:27.900 so consistently so constantly you've been talking about black mold since 63 i have yeah okay i

00:19:33.520 didn't think that every time i hear anything about black mold i immediately hear you in my head

00:19:37.180 being black mold because i have a friend i've heard about this you know it's like oh the mysterious

00:19:41.440 ailment that lasted years and it turns out it was mold and that like adds a whole like i'm looking

00:19:46.500 at this air event right here i'm like so this building that i'm staying in is like 12 000 years

00:19:50.780 old and the dampness the mold and then in my trailer there's there's a little flecks of mold

00:19:57.500 on the ceiling and i'm just ignoring it because what am i going to do it'd be like i need a new

00:20:01.260 trailer you know no yeah i love this because this is like literally you're you're a los angeles

00:20:06.260 actress angry about mold in your trailer sensational kate you've done it kate you've

00:20:11.180 done it remember when i told you new york you can't rot in this basement forever okay when

00:20:15.420 you're gonna move to la oh my god take a look at you now another song that anytime it's on

00:20:21.000 american idol i'm so i saw i've never seen american idol not out of some you know i want

00:20:27.400 to watch the first couple seasons with you what what no i was gonna say i haven't seen american

00:20:31.700 an idol not because i somehow you know that that's not like a damning thing you're above it

00:20:37.380 or something yeah i think i'm above it i only watch i still watch charlie rose interviews

00:20:41.600 um they won't take charlie away from me um wait wait but i just want to say something one

00:20:46.900 i think you're fine i really do the mold i'm just not worried about it okay and honestly a

00:20:52.140 new building probably off gas is more harmful idea you know harmful ideas off gassing i mean

00:20:58.120 okay cool so fresh stuff what are we supposed to do an old building an old brick building like

00:21:03.000 you're in no i think you're as safe as can be i love that okay thank you okay i'm cured but it's

00:21:08.380 more than i'm i'm scared because i know when i return to la i do want to buy a new area rug

00:21:12.940 and the off-gassing i mean what am i supposed to do you hang it outside for two two to three

00:21:18.480 months yeah exactly what is the plan there you know the bugs take hold and is the off-gassing

00:21:24.200 is that like the factory like it's like whatever happens in the factory is so toxic and unspeakable

00:21:28.540 i don't know why i'm not that worried about it too i mean no i know i'm not worried about it

00:21:32.680 because i'm not worried about anything unless it becomes critical okay which is how most people

00:21:35.960 live so and off gassing just has that sound of off gassing you know it's just like okay but my

00:21:42.020 point is you have a damn blue air not to make it an ad but you have an air filtration unit right

00:21:46.880 of course we're fine i think you'll be able to off gas freely okay great and you know you just 0.95

00:21:51.920 ride it out okay love it god there's something what have i been lusting after yeah well i've 1.00

00:21:58.020 been thinking back on you because i always think about using fucking cocksucker when uh 1.00

00:22:01.800 when your yoga mat was slipping you had to move to the wood in like like an early recording yeah 0.99

00:22:07.420 but i've been thinking about it because i've been really struggling with um kind of the mat element

00:22:11.760 in my tracy anderson because you got to do it in sneakers okay slippage and you take up a lot of

00:22:16.540 room there's a lot there's a lot of rolling around and weight shifting okay and and you just you i

00:22:22.160 want to try oh by the way and i meant to tell oh i did tell you because you've been you've been 0.99

00:22:26.280 screaming about wanting a new ass by you know a new ass by june a new ass by august you know 0.99

00:22:31.280 you know nothing changes except for the month right you'll get a new ass by christmas exactly 1.00

00:22:35.780 there it is new ass by christmas okay it was new ass by summer and i think valentine's day blew 0.99

00:22:40.540 through that one yeah i mean i don't know why you think you need a new ass but i respect any 0.99

00:22:45.540 project is a is a fun time yeah um you're saying she will give me the new ass i think so it's all 1.00

00:22:51.440 donkey kicks that might flare up my lower back donkey kicks also where is she has she reached 0.77

00:22:55.960 out i didn't i wouldn't dare ask for for anything free isn't that funny yeah it is funny considering

00:23:01.300 i'm like she like she don't need me well she certainly doesn't she knows she's not like and

00:23:07.440 i feel enough of her like there's a dedication to her work that doesn't feel just like some big

00:23:12.860 business yeah you know where whatever so it's not as like i'm not like oh yeah this is unilever i

00:23:18.400 think i can ask you unilever for a product from their child company that they've bought i'm

00:23:23.700 excited to try out my fend fend sent me a fend thanks to you oh right respiratory i've got one

00:23:30.200 right here because i literally i ordered like three on my own okay i ordered it for the people

00:23:36.880 who work on my show so that we're all protecting each other i got one for my dad he has yet to

00:23:42.540 open it i bought your dad's fish oil you sent me the supplement exciting what to get i'm gonna

00:23:46.940 start on that hey guess what folks i'm day i want to say 15 16 perhaps 17 of athletic greens every

00:23:52.780 day on empty stomach so this is episode three of athletic greens yeah no i mean that positively

00:23:58.800 like and by the way i paid for it i want to be clear it's like probably episode three of tracy

00:24:02.460 at this point they haven't said anything what i'm just saying they haven't said anything i'm doing

00:24:07.580 athletic greens paid for you're paying for tracy anderson and that has to stop and i would hope

00:24:11.820 that in the next couple weeks we get we get someone's reaching out um but i have but am i

00:24:16.300 sitting here going oh my god my life's changed no but do i like it yeah sure do so you haven't

00:24:20.960 experienced energy i have to say that i it's hard because my hours are wild and i am waking up i'm

00:24:25.800 getting much less sleep than i ordinarily do oh god kate i feel okay here's my problem i had the

00:24:31.560 worst night of my life what with my restless legs so the only thing that i was up to like four

00:24:36.680 and um just just trying to sleep in full pigeon and full splits okay again because pain is better

00:24:44.040 than the feeling of the restless leg so i'm like how can i i'm gonna i think i'm gonna have to

00:24:49.220 order like literally 16 of those back shiatsus lay them all down in two rows are you doing

00:24:55.160 magnesium sorry to be so no i'm not i think we need to get you on a high dose of magnesium before

00:25:00.840 bed yeah i mean i mean i magnesium comes up a fair amount in the in the restless leg syndrome

00:25:06.820 chatter however they tend to say that you know magnesium deficiency can cause it but it's really 0.98

00:25:13.280 a side effect of one of my antidepressants and that sucks oh fuck we're not going off those and 0.97

00:25:18.420 um no so i've the weed gummies have been my oh my savior okay and also a good time and you're 1.00

00:25:26.940 You're getting blasted off. You're going full THC.

00:25:29.120 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. God, that's fun.

00:25:31.080 And I pop it and sometimes

00:25:33.000 nothing happens. Like, I don't know.

00:25:35.000 It's a brick. My stomach's a brick, I think.

00:25:36.920 I mean, we're trying to work on that, too.

00:25:38.640 I find edibles are like Russian roulette. Sometimes

00:25:40.800 you take one, does nothing, and then you

00:25:42.820 take a light one and you're in outer space

00:25:45.040 for six hours. It was humiliating

00:25:46.840 in front of my mother. We sat down,

00:25:48.940 me, Chris, and my mother to play a game of Rummikub,

00:25:51.400 which is a game I've learned.

00:25:52.740 What a charming life. I know.

00:25:54.620 Because we're not a game family. We're not one of those

00:25:56.920 game families gather around the game board i'm like always like shocked and confused by the

00:26:01.900 existence of those families i i confusion doesn't begin to describe but then also i mean i can't

00:26:09.240 fathom the idea of seeing my father or my mother pick up a dice dice dice cards as again i've said

00:26:19.200 this before grew up 12 blocks from the ocean i've never seen either of my parents feet touch sand

00:26:23.360 and it sounds like an exaggeration here's what it is i've seen their feet touch sand only because

00:26:28.640 there was a restaurant we used to go to that was on the sand so i've seen their feet touch sand

00:26:32.580 back on the beach i believe it's gone now as most things are and what kind of shoe would your mother 0.99

00:26:37.580 be in a summer sandal a perfect summer sandal she would be in a sandal maybe slip off the sandal to

00:26:42.140 put the feet in and my father he didn't take his shoes off he was wearing full sneakers in the sand

00:26:45.940 his feet i've never seen touch sand so just to say like the beach that's not that wasn't a part of

00:26:50.860 of as a part of my life but not of my family life and similarly games completely foreign and i

00:26:55.600 actually i'll say it i detest games if i go to someone's house you know like breaking out the

00:27:00.380 board i want to immediately leave i want to immediately flee okay because we're so not rummy

00:27:07.320 cube we're just not a game family but my mom has gotten into mahjong and in her later years and

00:27:12.780 now as you must rummy rummy cube and um is that gin rummy what am i saying it's related to gin

00:27:19.560 rummy and it's the same as me i only i only know gin rummy is like a term that like like stuck in

00:27:24.340 the head sounds like i guess it has a rhythm yeah am i right why does gin rummy stick in the head

00:27:28.460 versus you know texas hold them i guess does too but it's like gin rummy i don't know like yeah

00:27:33.120 craps i knew it too it's like a reference it's exactly the kind of thing that would fly out of

00:27:35.800 your mouth you know what i mean yeah and mine um rhythm over whatever but i was imagining you i

00:27:41.240 was like could kate play this game for even one second oh because i was like because rummy cube

00:27:45.600 is literally like numbers on tiles and you like have to arrange them. Okay. Yeah. And I just

00:27:51.160 imagine you, your eyes, but I, but, but I took a gummy and usually takes like three hours for it

00:27:55.820 to hit way, way post rummy cube with mom. And then my mom's like, Jack, like something's wrong

00:28:03.420 with your eyes. Okay. And I was like, and she said that I was literally like, my head was like

00:28:09.000 rolling as like my eyes, my eyes were taking in the rummy cube. And I was like, Oh no. And I was

00:28:14.520 like my i have to say my gummy has hit oh my god gummy has hit in front of the family in a good way

00:28:20.960 and then she said i looked like a stoned freak the next morning can you believe it yeah because

00:28:25.360 my family is also not a i'm not a parents who smoke marijuana type family do they drink yeah

00:28:31.960 yeah so you've got some social drinking hard you know social drinking fun drinking but um but they

00:28:37.620 don't get stoned no they have like i would take your parents from what i've i mean i just need

00:28:42.460 the listeners to know I got a gorgeous email from Jacqueline's mother around my birthday yeah I

00:28:46.980 told you and I feel like I know your parents even though I don't and I of course I'm already like

00:28:51.700 your family John's family I'm already you know being like I'm when I'm the orphan like you guys

00:28:57.340 are gonna have to trade off Christmases and stuff no I know and I think the listeners do too because

00:29:02.020 I think this isn't such an ongoing fear for you yeah I need like a listener spreadsheet the

00:29:06.400 listeners are like are like she like I guess I shouldn't speak for you people what and excuse

00:29:10.780 the direct address it's really important here at poog that we don't do too much direct address of

00:29:14.660 the audience you know the higher ups tried to uh they said hey you know talk to the people you know

00:29:19.600 do a segment here there okay hey hey guys it's mailbox bingo you know and we said no we talked

00:29:26.340 to each other what are you saying the listeners are responsible for my sorry that was rude i didn't

00:29:30.380 mean to say it oh no i'm just saying the listeners know the listeners know your fear of orphanhood

00:29:33.960 yeah you've like like you've you've gotten it on record a few times that this fear like like i've

00:29:41.260 i've promised you on air that you can come to christmas yeah i think it's sweet because they

00:29:45.920 all know and i think a lot of listeners would be happy to invite you as well okay great um i want

00:29:50.520 to tell you about uh so yeah so i got i saw oh do you know anything about delta eight and nine

00:29:55.900 not variant thc or weed or cbd no do you know anything about it all right it's hemp it's legal

00:30:02.780 i guess there's a place i can buy it around here what's it called will it do anything for me that's

00:30:07.000 a brand or that's a strain of something never mind it's just me trying to come up with a solution for

00:30:12.100 my my rls this is boring uh let me find a notion that's i have a um whatever i'm not gonna start

00:30:18.860 talking about cbd and weed no no let's is it almost time for a break data yeah all right so

00:30:24.180 let's pull it together oh i know what i want to talk about when we come back from break

00:30:27.080 wait but did you did you get your fend going oh no i'd still i have to unbox it unbox it and get

00:30:32.560 in your nose now i'm gonna unbox it tomorrow and start the week with 100 best inventions of

00:30:37.160 unbelievable um believable what are we gonna do get the third dose we have to make sure by the

00:30:42.900 way well we'll talk about it later but we have to make sure we watch interstellar before um

00:30:46.460 oh i was actually gonna suggest what if yeah i think interstellar has to happen it's happening

00:30:51.220 now folks okay i'm almost gonna get it done because there will be spoilers and jacqueline

00:30:55.240 i'm almost gonna suggest today we're recording right now not to break not just not to completely

00:30:59.980 shatter um the the reality but it is saturday right now tomorrow's sunday i might even boldly

00:31:05.500 suggest we do interstellar watch tomorrow night because i'm not going to be able to watch during

00:31:10.560 the week oh that's not exactly true i think we should we should watch it this week oh you want

00:31:14.700 us to watch it together no no no we have to watch it separately so we can discuss it on the next

00:31:18.820 okay yeah yeah and i just want to say i'm anti-spoiler but you have been warned oh yeah

00:31:24.200 so we will be spoiling because we have to yeah if you want to watch interstellar poog stellar

00:31:29.360 is going to be next week's episode stellar is next week and it'll be spoiler spoiler central stellar

00:31:35.240 yeah um and i'm very excited okay i love knowing this maybe we should add in joy luck club i'm

00:31:40.920 i'm sorry okay it's too much no it's too much it's too much if you see it but i need you to

00:31:44.800 watch it's gonna be huge for you just trust me okay just trust me i think i found it on hbo max

00:31:49.820 and added it to my list okay that's something i remember you're like i'll make a note what about

00:31:53.840 what about these people have a little notebook and they write down like oh that's like let me

00:31:57.280 pull out my notebook and put it on the books i'd like to read page like that kind of level of

00:32:00.860 organization i have this new thing where i'm obsessed with getting a notebook and this could

00:32:05.200 not be more of a simple thing but i just really need a list of things to do like a notebook where

00:32:10.700 just all of the horrific admin things that i need to take care of oh well you need one hideous

00:32:16.320 notebook that doesn't we'll talk about this we'll get into notebooks but one hideous notebook for

00:32:20.320 all the hideous stuff i love that you gotta go break

00:32:22.300 this is rider strong and i have a new podcast called the red weather it was many and many

00:32:31.780 a year ago in a kingdom by the sea in 1995 my neighbor and a trainer disappeared from a commune

00:32:38.860 it was hard to wrap your head around it was nature and trees and praying and drugs so no i am not

00:32:45.260 to your guru.

00:32:47.640 And back then, I lied to my parents,

00:32:50.280 I lied to police, I lied to everybody.

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00:33:24.520 all right we're back baby checking texts what's going on where are you are you i was just making

00:33:35.980 sure we're fine i'm back just making sure we're fine yeah just making sure we're fine okay so i

00:33:40.180 want to say you know sometimes you hear things i stick with you for years so i heard i don't

00:33:44.420 remember when this was but i heard that nicole kidman only sleeps on her back and that's and

00:33:50.240 like thank you because i i love being on my stomach i just love it it makes me it's really 0.98

00:33:55.420 a return to the womb what do you do one leg up bent like you're climbing i'll do one leg

00:34:00.360 that's one of my favorite oh it feels so good all the way up a full almost a pigeon but i'll

00:34:05.600 i'll wrap my i'll wrap my arm under my leg heaven i mean right you you in the crook of your elbow

00:34:12.420 is the back side of your knee yes right correct and you're lifting it like you could lift your

00:34:16.960 own hip right out of the socket so good and your own leg over your own shoulder smashing my face

00:34:22.480 into the pillow yes wait smashing it do you smash sort of vertically like a bowl kind of against

00:34:28.760 and it or do you're just side of the face classic side of the face vertically what do you mean just

00:34:33.500 nose to the what do you mean i've seen it okay it's straight down no it's almost like the the

00:34:38.540 forehead is sort of in the top of the head is sort of you know just like a bowl would do but against

00:34:43.800 and into the pillow it's a very interesting no i do classic kind of sideways smash but sometimes

00:34:49.100 i do i'm like i'm recognizing oh yeah so my face is of course smashed right now yeah yeah and what

00:34:55.720 are we gonna do about that all right i'll tell you i'll tell you so good and i do sleep on my

00:35:00.620 back sometimes fall asleep on my back I sleep in a million different positions but I feel so good

00:35:06.000 the face smash and then I'm thinking about Nicole Kidman her never sleeping on and then my I have a

00:35:12.080 co-star here I go again and she said that she was shooting a movie and the makeup artist said try to 0.93

00:35:17.340 sleep on your back while we're shooting yeah can you fucking believe what I'm hearing what I'm 0.79

00:35:21.080 saying to you right now this is big okay I I do and you know I've gone down this path I know and 0.99

00:35:26.100 a couple things to say to you I find the best way to if you want to fall asleep on your back is you

00:35:30.360 have to treat it like shavasana okay yeah you have to i think you have to be fully straight

00:35:36.680 and thinking of it like you're doing like a full body meditation i believe that and you have to put

00:35:41.220 on some kind of full body relaxation like guided meditation i'm gonna say right now the calm app

00:35:45.380 i love it then you drift off yeah calm slash poop calm.com slash poop calm.com by the way i think

00:35:51.020 i'm actually fully paying for calm at this point so can someone from corporate reach out because

00:35:54.460 why the hell am i paying for calm no it's it's humiliating we've done ads i think my free

00:35:58.540 subscription ran out anything that i've paid for and then they've offered free and they

00:36:02.800 and it's like i already have an account and like they can't seem to work that out by the way daily

00:36:07.520 harvest i'm ready for some free boxes to pittsburgh well generally speaking yeah boxes yeah i want

00:36:12.860 free stuff from daily harvest oh i can't believe i i can't believe i haven't saying this they're

00:36:16.740 like where is the stuff we got some to be clear we got some replenish i'll be four days out of

00:36:22.800 boston i have gotten no wrecks for for spa for for food okay for anything in boston in boston from

00:36:32.400 from the people i mean i'm not trying to get you by tickets anymore a boston spa i mean sorry not to

00:36:38.140 listen much love to our boston listeners but i just i don't i've never gone to boston to unwind

00:36:45.040 and you know no of course but every city imagine honeymooning in boston what it was just a reveal

00:36:53.900 about us that we always like oh we just need to get away and get to boston for a weekend by the

00:36:59.040 way i actually do have an issue with boston which is clear which is clear americanism i just uh

00:37:05.420 in harbor i've had by the way i want to say right now i've had great shows in boston love those

00:37:09.360 boston crowds truly but in terms of waking up hitting the streets i i just i've had issues

00:37:16.200 with what the streets or food restaurants in boston i've had issues with oh yeah general vibe

00:37:23.640 of course i mean boston you in boston is like is well actually it's fun like you and me in boston

00:37:30.840 is almost like fun right you mean anywhere yeah you and me but yes you mean buffalo me walking

00:37:35.720 into like a striped wallpapered sort of colonial designed carpeted hell yeah yeah i'm i'm like a

00:37:44.320 mad i'm i've created a restaurant in my head okay that's like that's like the worst thing you can

00:37:49.380 imagine like would be and like us being in there like in the thrill i you and me like i don't know 0.90

00:37:55.780 whatever there's nothing there i don't know why i'm just talking fucking talking well we'll be 0.67

00:37:59.580 doing boston we'll be doing poogle live in boston i mean i want to be clear folks that um as soon as 0.78

00:38:05.400 we get this uh this delta variant under control i will be um we were gonna poog is coming on the

00:38:12.660 road we're gonna have you know wild tours for the next 37 years or not so or not so if we do some

00:38:18.940 kind of you know digital remote don't go thinking well i can't buy that because we can always just

00:38:23.520 go to the live okay you can't tell the people that you're gonna do it every month for for 37

00:38:28.800 seven years they need urgency it's called one night only in boston i love that scarcity yeah

00:38:34.480 um not really i mean we don't we don't subscribe to that and i have a lot of ideas for other ways

00:38:39.360 that you know of course whatever whatever whatever i um my father has three separate wrist uh support

00:38:45.600 items oh believe it oh my god desk for the keyboard but wait my father as you know i was

00:38:53.200 never i've never seen him touch a computer or cell phone it's amazing yeah very special

00:38:58.420 um wait but oh the back so so hold on so sleeping on the back oh yeah okay so i obviously have gone

00:39:05.080 down this path and as one element of skincare and um i purchased a pillow that cradles your

00:39:13.600 head and keeps it from falling to the right or to the left i just don't i'm immediately shutting

00:39:19.940 down hearing that because you want to be curled because i want to be curled because i just don't

00:39:25.220 I just, it depresses me. It's the aesthetic. It's the aesthetic. That's what it is. I'm

00:39:30.800 getting trapped in the aesthetic of a curvature of a, of a geriatric. Actually has nothing to do

00:39:35.420 with that. It's just like, I don't, it looks medical. Yeah. Medical and geriatric. It looks

00:39:40.340 medical. And this is coming from, this is coming from the gal who used to have to carry a tailbone 1.00

00:39:45.080 pillow on every plane ride for months and months due to my fractured tailbone. And that pillow 1.00

00:39:50.380 reads hemorrhoid dancing from dancing too hard i wore a heeled boots on a steel floor i was just

00:39:56.260 gonna say a couple cocktails went wild bucking wildly in the night hurt my tailbone hairline

00:40:01.640 fracture nine months but i had that pillow and uh yeah something about it brings up the medical

00:40:06.880 trauma well you know what i did with my pillow that i i wrapped it in that gorgeous floral silk

00:40:11.860 um plant dyed dyed wrap i mean pillowcase that was sent to us and is featured on poog i have a

00:40:19.720 question for you. Do you struggle with house guests? Does it, um, and does everyone in which

00:40:24.520 sense? Okay. So my, my place right now, I have some friends, dear friends staying at my house

00:40:30.140 while I'm gone, right? You're not there while I'm not there. Trust them completely. I know

00:40:34.180 they're not doing anything to my home, but there's some, I have this like persistent fear of going

00:40:39.260 back, smelling the smell of another, the feeling of another, even a dear friend's body in my bed.

00:40:45.380 something about it makes me want to burn my bed when i get back well yeah i mean letting other

00:40:49.780 people sleep in your bed is almost like you know it's a question and i feel bad because because a

00:40:55.700 mattress collects all when we know this if you want to wrap your mattress in a true plastic wrap

00:41:02.520 oh and then have a set of sheets and a mattress protector on top of it then when they leave you 0.96

00:41:08.080 clean those things okay and then i think you're safe from no i'm sleeping in my friend's semen 0.62

00:41:12.960 for the next 20 years and that's fine i don't know i think i think um i think next time 0.84

00:41:19.440 you should just get i mean your couch is not pull out i imagine no you can't have someone

00:41:25.220 stay at your house and ask them to not sleep in your bed oh yes you can no yes you can yes you 0.84

00:41:31.940 can no you can't person can sleep in whatever you goddamn give them okay you can point to a hammock 0.97

00:41:38.040 okay and say you know don't be afraid to piss on the rock or whatever you you kate your bed is not 0.98

00:41:45.760 just up for grabs plenty of people when you i've stayed in people's houses where i'm not necessarily

00:41:51.680 on a couch but i'm definitely in some side room or whatever that's because they're in their bed

00:41:56.180 they're not in pittsburgh yeah they are i'm talking to show up and they go you yeah you

00:42:00.640 sleep in that room that's a but that's not a good that's strange because i don't want to sleep in

00:42:05.340 the master bedroom someone's master bedroom right i don't want to be in the bed of the people who

00:42:10.360 live there think about skin what goes on okay think about like the bed of someone that lives

00:42:15.520 somewhere ew i mean who wants to get in that i know just a skin hammock of like it's like everything

00:42:22.520 the detritus yeah a skin hammock for sure yeah uh no it's just and and i'm sorry but energetically

00:42:30.140 okay that's space don't the energetic part scares you yeah no we're fine by the way my dear friends 0.82

00:42:35.760 who might be listening i don't think that you're somehow poison and disgusting and toxic and i

00:42:39.380 wouldn't let anyone stay in my home who i wasn't prepared to absorb yeah no i i um i would i also

00:42:47.960 think some people don't want people sleeping in their master bed because it's like they're afraid

00:42:51.660 like oh i don't know like you're gonna see something that is about how they live that

00:42:55.760 they won't like like oh do they have to clean out their bedside table like that you'll be

00:42:59.420 rooting through mercilessly i cleaned out some drawers i cleaned out a couple drawers do you

00:43:04.120 ever like like staying somewhere or something and and you have really high standard at first of how

00:43:08.380 you're not going to move anything like and you're gonna just like it's gonna be like you weren't

00:43:12.940 there and then you're like i'll just move this over here yeah and then you're like i'll remember

00:43:16.640 and i'll put it back and then you're like wait where was it you never do you got to get the

00:43:20.040 hell out of there house guest is a major question in life because people are really into it and

00:43:25.800 they're really into well like like the people's need of a guest bedroom like there are people are

00:43:30.700 really into that like on those house hunting shows they're they're constantly talking about

00:43:35.220 like when the guests and the family visit right right like they're obsessed it's like it's like

00:43:39.900 it's all about that and it's like that's not your day-to-day life i basically think a guest room

00:43:44.460 should not be if you have an extra room do something with it you know invite them in well

00:43:50.480 make it something at least convertible a murphy bed comes down if a guest comes i went to a house

00:43:55.200 recently that had like four murphy beds a permanent altar to a potential guest that you walk by

00:44:00.680 is actually disgusting and disturbed it's like it's like it's like a room for a ghost

00:44:05.460 who's angered you know three times a year when someone comes in there like you know what i mean

00:44:10.360 like walking by the bedroom the empty maid bed the guest a guest room is really interesting

00:44:16.620 what are you bringing in if you were gonna have a guest room perfect guest room that you you know

00:44:21.020 here it is you have a guest room and you get to put in whatever you can and you can just snap

00:44:25.920 your fingers like what would you want in the guest room for the guest like okay like i'd be

00:44:30.140 like okay a carafe with like you know you mean what do you want them nice water on the bedside

00:44:35.160 table what else would i have in there an extra toothbrush what else like what would be the ideal

00:44:39.080 guest room because i do for guests i do love that and i do like i dream of of having a home one day

00:44:44.580 with a guest room where there is the craft of ice water and there is the yes oh and i got some

00:44:49.000 tooth is of course fully stocked you know we've got the gorgeous products in there for you and

00:44:53.520 and there's some flowers in there and um I have to say I'll just do a shout out to my mother because

00:44:59.080 John early stayed at my house for a couple weeks once I was in New York he stayed at my parents

00:45:03.580 house in LA and he was working or something and then he said he came home one night my mom had

00:45:08.120 put a bottle of champagne on ice for him oh my god is that not the sweetest thing you've ever heard

00:45:12.680 wow i just saw a gift my mom got for someone who there's a little a little boy like toddler or

00:45:19.520 and then there's like the littler one who was just born so that's a really weird way of saying

00:45:23.980 it'll make it'll make sense in a second why i'm saying that way and i saw these two gifts come

00:45:29.160 out of her bag okay and one was like this little carrot like stuffed animal a little smile and a

00:45:35.440 little like i've seen that exact animal okay and then i think it's a jelly jelly or whatever jelly

00:45:40.120 whatever they're really soft yeah and then there was a big carrot and that's for the big brother

00:45:45.480 very sweet that's very sweet there's just something really cute about i don't know the

00:45:50.180 whole thing of getting the gift for the older sibling gift circuit that's signed to a murderous

00:45:54.800 rage at the sight of a new baby thank god i didn't have to experience that that is something i mean

00:46:01.000 wait kate imagine you oh as a new baby of course and only a child i used to imagine like if some 1.00

00:46:07.420 other bitch was here talking to my mom like they were like i would think about it and i would get 1.00

00:46:12.840 jealous just imagining another child at the tugging at the hem of my mother's sundress oh my god get 0.99

00:46:18.860 out i mean you do have the realization i think somewhat okay if you do have the siblings you

00:46:23.720 you do recognize the truth that someone can love more than one person like it's very poly having

00:46:28.580 siblings right that's an interesting question if if you know well that's what everyone that's the

00:46:35.420 big poly thing they're like you don't love one kid more than the other and by the way yeah you do 0.83

00:46:40.100 i think a lot of fucking parents actually do have a preference i've heard you say it i always think 0.98

00:46:44.880 it's really funny coming from an only child do you know what i mean also like because you just 1.00

00:46:49.500 can't imagine you don't have sex with your kids so i'm sorry stop pretending that love is love

00:46:53.960 it's like no romantic love where you're having sex is different you can't compare that to the 1.00

00:46:59.700 attachment between parents and children you absolute psychopath absolute fool yeah what 1.00

00:47:04.540 the hell are you talking about nice try absolute go again nice try try again yeah the ease with 1.00

00:47:11.540 which parents freely love all their children equally is not comparable right and i think i

00:47:17.640 think the equal a hobby sorry i think equal you agreed i think the equal actually makes sense in

00:47:24.260 the case of a parent because each child they love with their whole heart okay it sounds cheesy but

00:47:29.500 i mean like they feel that they are at the capacity the top capacity of love for a kid

00:47:34.740 and then they go to another kid oh my god i'm at the top capacity i can possibly have love

00:47:38.040 for this person too how can that be oh yeah it's not just a limited substance love's not a verb

00:47:43.880 love is an industry honey okay um okay um okay so in closing the rain stopped in closing i'm

00:47:58.300 thinking of i've been thinking about dropping on the poog answer or on the poog mailing list

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00:48:12.360 the poog thing they're begging they're begging data's looking at me like i'm crazy data this

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00:48:21.380 watch interstellar send boston recommendations okay if i don't see 65 poog hags in the audience

00:48:26.540 It's nightly. 1.00

00:48:26.960 I'm going to be furious.

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