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00:02:35.460 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:36.940 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:02:38.020 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

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00:02:55.620 good morning hi it's me huge news over here yeah what's that well the news is that i woke up

00:03:07.020 and there was no water in my house which is shocking can you imagine the exciting walking

00:03:11.960 over to the sink turning the knob nothing maybe your house tried to do that thing starve the

00:03:17.080 roots to you? I know. I know. Ran to the kitchen sink. Payback time? Same. I run to the window at 0.99

00:03:22.880 the front of the house. The water department's on my block. So something's going on with those pipes.

00:03:27.520 Suddenly the luxury of running water has never felt more pronounced. Oh, wow. Yeah. I thank God

00:03:34.260 have nowhere. I don't have a business meeting. Thank God. What is the home when water's not

00:03:39.860 moving through it? You realize all you've had for all this time. No, it's absolutely. Okay. So

00:03:47.020 thank god thank god again that i don't have a business meeting this morning i mean can you

00:03:51.440 imagine and so i was imagining running into street i'm an actress sir you know like can you

00:03:56.600 imagine but yeah anyway thank god i had my rely on me my work thank god i had my essence to spray

00:04:05.920 my face with and then i recalled oh there it is i forgot who it was but saying no water on the face

00:04:10.700 Treat your face, treat your face like a precious piece of leather, no water, no sun. Right. So that was exciting. And I thought, well, this is an experiment. So, and by the way, the theme of water running in the house is huge since last night. Remember I texted you in a panic because my AquaTrue had some mold in it or like, or some green, which like, and I almost had a meltdown over it because I've been drinking out of it.

00:04:37.300 right i didn't see that there was a little bit and i was like okay well the poison the poisoning

00:04:41.380 has begun yeah and so i had a meltdown and then i was feeling i was in a there was a period today

00:04:49.360 i was in this really bad mood and i was like i think i'm so thirsty because i'm scared of drinking

00:04:53.920 the water in the aqua true so i did what i never do which is i bought bottled water i went i ran

00:04:58.940 and i bought like a gallon of bottled water chugged a bunch of it the mood was lifted instantly it was

00:05:05.260 shocking i just needed water anyway and thank god that i have that jug this morning folks because

00:05:10.900 without it there wouldn't be any water in my home see it's interesting i've been up for hours have

00:05:15.980 i had a single sip of water no well that's why again i'm sorry this is going to sound like a

00:05:20.820 plug but that's why the athletic greens i went off for a couple weeks my body didn't wasn't

00:05:24.900 craving it and back because you're just you're forced to drink 12 ounces of water like upon

00:05:28.580 except i don't drink it right upon waking because i eat dinner at 1 a.m you know right so i'm

00:05:36.580 stuffed in the morning anyway the point is yeah i've had two cups of coffee and there's a little

00:05:43.140 water in there well thank god i had an emergency can of cold brew in my fridge which i always have

00:05:47.820 at all times so i was able to have coffee and i have to also say here's another plug i can't stand

00:05:52.600 the taste of cold brew yeah you really yeah i can't do it oh my god again and again obviously

00:05:59.180 the word the language cold brew sounds seductive oh my god you know the sort of oh we're not burning

00:06:06.140 the beans etc i've tried through the years again and again sure let me try your nitro cold brew

00:06:12.420 let me try your it tastes it has a syrupy thickness to me wow and it's just because you know i've

00:06:20.080 gotten I'm on the other you know it's like just how it is you drink Dunkin for years Starbucks

00:06:25.200 tastes burnt you drink Starbucks for years Dunkin tastes like water I really like the cold brew

00:06:30.220 Stumptown cans and I'll also say this morning so I had my cold brew but I'm drinking and I'm

00:06:36.720 loving it the Saqqara protein and greens powder there I said it wow wow I'm into it Saqqara yeah

00:06:43.240 yeah okay i'm on hyperdrive right now with products plugging products but here we go

00:06:47.880 i also as we all know i'm fascinated by deodorant and i my life has changed due to the carpe deodorant

00:06:55.720 c-a-r-p-e not an ad they've never sent a single bar of it yeah but it's it's incredible it's not

00:07:01.560 natural okay i couldn't care less folks i couldn't care less it's not natural and you couldn't care

00:07:04.900 less and what is what is the operational active poison i don't know how's it working i don't know

00:07:12.220 but all I know is it's a miracle. It does. All I know is that it does. And it smells kind of just

00:07:17.680 like, um, I remember Mitchum working. I know I've brought this up, but Mitchum, I know I've

00:07:23.380 recalled that. Remember so effective. You can skip a day. Yeah. Those bastards, they lie. Which I'm

00:07:27.640 sure is poison. I don't know. Just give it a shot. Well, I wasn't able to skip a day on

00:07:32.500 in high school when I didn't care for it. You tried? Yeah. Oh, I've tried them all. The clear

00:07:36.660 gel really i'll go back i would go back i mean i don't know i don't know i don't know why i'm

00:07:43.140 pushing it it's weird i just maybe it's because i find the brand line the slogan the tag so

00:07:49.400 compelling that 48 hours of protection yeah so no but they don't even say that they just say

00:07:55.440 so if you can skip a day like it's it's folksy it's you know it's like and yet they speak with

00:08:01.460 confidence but i thought you were gonna try an oral deal okay so that's exactly what i'm about

00:08:04.960 to say. So I'm trying, I haven't tried it yet. Cause something about it is of course inherently

00:08:09.540 scary, but it's called, it just works. And it's a body deodorizing supplement.

00:08:15.680 Talk about, talk about down home branding.

00:08:19.780 Honey, it just works. And so here's what's in it. So I don't feel, cause there is something

00:08:23.920 that feels scary. Like, you know, the world of vitamins, we know this, it's like unregulated,

00:08:29.480 right? It's kind of like, they can put like pee pee in a, in a thing and give it to you and you

00:08:33.860 drink it yeah you know it's like it's like did you say pp yeah yeah it's a little joke on on piss

00:08:39.560 there but um but listen to what's in this because this feels not scary to me organic parsley leaf

00:08:46.380 love it 200 milligrams let's go sodium copper chlorophyllin sounds okay to me i don't know

00:08:53.940 200 milligrams couldn't tell you it's all those words what chlor all those words sound like words

00:08:59.580 like chlorophyll i'm like okay copper chlorophyll that sounds a little scary and then and then

00:09:04.540 organic peppermint leaf sexy one time i made a cup of tea real quick i made a cup of tea with

00:09:09.720 my mother we filled the kettle and we made mint tea and we were drinking it and we were like this

00:09:13.640 looks unusually green we're like this is some real mint tea and then we found out like my father had

00:09:19.080 mixed the like chlorophyll or something like that using the kettle somehow to for the plants and so

00:09:24.480 we were just drinking it i called the poison center we were fine but you were drinking chlorophyll

00:09:29.260 that's not bad for you maybe i don't mean chlorophyll i don't know it was bright green

00:09:32.640 and it was definitely for plants oh no well anyway keep it coming well no that's it that's all that's

00:09:38.200 in this check your kettles folks that's all i'm saying oh and then also when i was at my parents

00:09:42.240 i was sorry we will go back but i dug into some peanut butter in the night okay i reached up to

00:09:47.340 this sort of random peanut butter i saw that didn't seem positioned with the other ones i

00:09:50.980 start digging into it there's like something like that looks a little crunchy in it i'm like

00:09:54.440 kind of just ignoring that i'm like all right you know no no but and then my mother was like

00:10:01.520 my mother was like that's the one dad uses for the bird feeder or something like that

00:10:06.720 so i was like is there bird seed in here yeah like that i just kind of ignored and assumed it

00:10:13.340 was like okay like someone was like dipping crackers into this and like seeds were falling

00:10:18.260 i don't know you know once again i was safe you were eating the birds better once again i was

00:10:22.100 safe well my dad well it was like will jackie die if she ate the peanut butter that you use for the

00:10:27.360 birds is that the one right right and it was like my dad like no like no it's fine yeah and we were

00:10:33.520 fine go on well no that's it so i think i might take the supplement and give it a whirl and they've

00:10:39.300 got some big claims here folks well i'd love to i'd love to know something about that that third

00:10:44.000 ingredient yeah what that is here's my issue yeah go ahead with products at the moment so my heart

00:10:51.560 is groaning under the weight of of supplements that we've begged for and have been sent and

00:10:57.640 here's what i don't know what to do so we've got athletic greens over here okay right and we know

00:11:03.200 the ingredients there then we've got you know oh symbiotica l-theanine whatever okay over here

00:11:09.220 and then we've got this other you know oh drink this adaptogen tea once a day and i'm like well

00:11:15.680 this one has the mushrooms in it that one has the mushrooms in it this one's claiming you know

00:11:20.060 antioxidant whatever and this amino acid this one is over here how the hell am i adding up

00:11:24.900 these quantities it's like i can only use one product at a time because otherwise the amount

00:11:30.320 of work it would take so where's the website where i i list the six supplements that are

00:11:33.960 sitting in my house and how do you know what's working don't don't or worse just like that i'm

00:11:40.060 not triple dosing because i've three different like three different mixes like i have seven

00:11:47.040 different mixes hey take this you take this once a day you're gonna feel great but it's overlapping

00:11:51.440 with the other ones so your issue is that you don't know i'm worried about i'm gonna triple

00:11:56.060 dose on l-theanine no no it's true and and we have to no it's scary because i'm also just

00:12:01.680 unregulated here like i'm like okay so am i just gonna start popping this and by the way this

00:12:06.380 deodorant supplement big claim honey they say in three days you're changed you're changed

00:12:11.920 now is your concern it's scent right odor yeah and again i want to also sweat i want to just say

00:12:20.880 to protect my own ego like it's not like i'm like horrifically stinky i think i have an over

00:12:25.420 focus on scent no but i just mean that's like the thing you never want to think like it's you're not

00:12:32.020 trying to stop the sweat gland like you're not or are you like is it about like i don't want to

00:12:36.340 sweat through my t-shirt by the way i have fully considered getting i have fully considered getting

00:12:41.060 Botox into the armpits, which I've, which I've seen people do one person. I don't know why I

00:12:48.280 don't find sweat in an armpit upsetting in a t-shirt. Yeah. I mean, I guess I'm just like

00:12:54.060 wear a tank top for me. It is with clothes. Like sweating is healthy, but there's certain things

00:12:59.000 like I can't wear. I would be so amazing. Like the dead of summer to be able to wear like a teal

00:13:04.780 t-shirt something teal i don't know just anything like but do you mean t-shirt or long sleeve or

00:13:11.880 anything i was picturing just now in my mind i was picturing like a silk evening gown i guess

00:13:17.440 what you're saying is that i guess maybe i'm not that i don't sweat that much right because you 0.97

00:13:21.800 don't have you don't get zits and you don't sweat bitch i'm dry okay but like i guess what you're 0.95

00:13:29.120 saying is like yeah i don't like sweat enough where when i put on any piece of clothing i think 0.99

00:13:34.580 to myself like here we go oh this side of the dress is going to be like soaked with sweat by

00:13:39.720 the time i arrive at the party like yeah well carpe i feel like i'm more of like a dead woman

00:13:44.220 i'm sort of a dead dry husk of a woman okay okay you're like you know what else you could put in

00:13:50.380 an evening gown a teal evening gown a corpse you know what i mean yeah she just does fine in that

00:13:55.260 in that silken coffin meanwhile i'm gushing so okay so i so you know what i'm so excited about

00:14:02.700 so we're doing poogs great way to wake up i'm like giddy because i'm going to the mall i've 0.99

00:14:07.700 been to a mall in a while big day over here oh my god i'm buying a new computer oh shit so 0.81

00:14:15.340 ordinarily that's the kind of purchase that would i would be dwelling on it for months and i'd be 0.95

00:14:19.640 like what do i get and i'd have to consult 1400 people and i'd be yeah and then it was so freeing

00:14:24.160 to go hey guess what all i do is type on this thing store this laptop is so old and i can't

00:14:30.020 watch anything on it because the speakers are broken it's like it's hell going in there i'm

00:14:34.200 getting a macbook i'm getting the cheapest one the lowest gigabytes i don't need yes i don't play

00:14:38.120 i'm not editing a feature film on romania on here you know no and meanwhile meanwhile i am

00:14:48.500 i am literally i'm the opposite of a macbook pro and and and i was screaming yesterday about how

00:14:54.260 like whatever I got, it wasn't enough. Like I, you know, I try to make the world

00:15:00.580 of content. Like, I don't know what I, what the fuck I do. Right. I'm an archivist. Okay. 0.98

00:15:06.680 So it's never enough for me. I have a major question. Yeah. Do you back up on a physical

00:15:13.460 thing? Well, I did for years. I did for years. Okay. And I'm hauling these, these old firewire

00:15:19.760 drives around with me from place to place. And then, and then like dust collects on them. And

00:15:23.600 then i bring them in to get them digitized and they're like these are all corrupted yeah yeah

00:15:26.800 exactly i don't buy it like cool and then and then the cloud another i mean as i told you recently

00:15:32.580 like i've maxed out the cloud and i said hit upgrade and i said you already have um so right

00:15:38.360 now i'm living in a kind of a hole deep from the abdomen to the neck a sternum i'd say sternum to

00:15:47.680 belly button yeah there's a there's a there's an anxiety about backing up oh god well i've so i at

00:15:54.080 this point i'm just like okay dropbox like i you know g drive like i don't i don't i'm not pulling

00:16:00.480 up a word file typing and going oh and having to save that i'm saving it i don't the physical the

00:16:06.360 physical hard drives i can't do that anymore you're fine with google drive kate berlant is

00:16:11.420 fine with google drive and google docs that's where all your writing should be okay thank you

00:16:15.780 so hack in folks it's terrifying as soon as i said that i was like oh god yeah um well everyone's on

00:16:21.280 there you know no exactly so so it's great so that's that's um no you're settled okay you're

00:16:26.760 settled i can't wait to have my typing machine i'm buying a typing machine today yes i just need

00:16:32.000 to do yeah it's all you need so i'm gonna i'm gonna stroll in there i'm so excited it's gonna 0.99

00:16:35.980 be so excited never edited a goddamn word on your like you you've never opened fucking iMovie 0.90

00:16:41.380 you've never I have a computer but iMovie will be fine I'm not editing if I need to edit something 0.99

00:16:46.920 minor it's going to be fine in there but then also I'm excited because I'm going to go to Sephora

00:16:52.140 I'm going to return and by the way this is a reminder to everyone here Sephora you can return

00:16:58.740 it and get a refund or exchange at any point I repeat you can take a lipstick have your way with

00:17:04.260 it for six months you suddenly decide you don't like it anymore you take it back the package is

00:17:10.180 gone, it's half mutilated. You will get, I think the least you will get is a store credit.

00:17:17.900 Am I positive? Kind of. No, I know. No, you've, you've, you've spoken of this. This is one of

00:17:24.380 your like PSAs of POOG. And I think what it comes down to for me is, I don't know. I don't get

00:17:33.120 pleasure in that. Okay. Well, guess what? I have another, do you remember during the pandemic,

00:17:37.500 Like, I think I talked about this on POOG.

00:17:39.860 It was really upsetting.

00:17:41.040 I was like, I want a dress.

00:17:43.400 So Reformation, you know, Reformation, you can buy.

00:17:46.100 Their return policy is like 30 days.

00:17:48.000 It's easy, whatever.

00:17:48.820 Right.

00:17:48.980 You missed it.

00:17:49.560 You missed it.

00:17:50.200 No, worse.

00:17:50.960 Worse, honey.

00:17:51.640 Oh.

00:17:51.920 So I was feeling reckless.

00:17:53.800 I was feeling wild.

00:17:54.720 I'm like, I'm going to buy, get ready, five dresses.

00:17:57.640 Yeah.

00:17:58.340 I can return them all, refund.

00:17:59.520 It's like it won't even happen.

00:18:00.340 It's like it didn't even happen.

00:18:01.880 Right.

00:18:02.680 I got the dresses.

00:18:03.980 I don't want any of them.

00:18:04.940 I try them on.

00:18:05.620 I go, well, my plan worked.

00:18:06.860 No, no, no.

00:18:07.160 there was one shirt i liked i was like i'm returning everything except for this is everything

00:18:11.500 at reformation of that same sort of thin fabric unfortunately feels like in my mind yeah i had to

00:18:17.040 like i had to they're all like they're all like the same as a target like sundress for the most

00:18:22.620 part yeah they're it's yeah it's like feels horrible on your body and it's like flammable

00:18:26.700 and it also will like be destroyed in four days yeah it's not and it's all transparent it's all 0.88

00:18:33.620 like your full genitalia bear at noon, at high noon. And sometimes they have a cute little dress 0.92

00:18:40.760 in there, but I had to go, you're not allowed to go on the website anymore, Kate, after what

00:18:44.040 happened to me. So I, I box it all up. I go, look at you. See, it's like, you didn't even spend a

00:18:49.500 dollar on all these dresses. I take them. I was also returning something else. I take it to the

00:18:56.100 post office. Something happened. I'm not blaming the post office. I blame myself. I must've put

00:19:00.980 the wrong label I switched the labels the five dresses went to fucking Russia I don't know they 0.98

00:19:07.600 went somewhere else and maybe it was Romania never to be heard from again okay so I had to eat that 0.89

00:19:13.600 price so I had so I did pay for those dresses and I never even wore them so that was something that

00:19:18.100 continues to haunt me so guess what happened folks a couple weeks ago I'm on Instagram I've relapsed

00:19:23.120 fully I've relapsed fully onto social media also because my my sketch special is now available on

00:19:29.020 Peacock. Would it kill you to laugh? Starring myself and John Hardy. Would it kill you to laugh? An absolute masterpiece. Thank you so much. Go enjoy folks. Please go enjoy. We, we need those hits. Yeah. Let the boys and let the boys and data clock the, clock the views.

00:19:43.420 anyway so I've relapsed due to that of course and so I was scrolling and a dress was advertised to

00:19:49.860 me and I thought god that looks cute I look at the return policy 30 days full refund I go what's

00:19:55.020 the worst that could happen I fall in love with this dress and you know it arrives I try it on

00:19:58.960 instantly I hate it I go this is a complete mistake this is horrible it was not cheap folks

00:20:03.840 it was not cheap okay I'm gonna haul ass to the post post office again see that's that's what's 0.93

00:20:09.880 not safe i just want to take a minute as people who that's what's not safe is yeah you don't you

00:20:14.520 don't have to worry about the financial investment but the time the time kate so then i have to go

00:20:18.680 mail it back no no but listen to me the dress was not cheap i was also returning a couple other

00:20:24.900 things the same thing happened i got so i got okay so the people's chalusia okay is it lucia

00:20:33.620 yeah chalicia they get an email from them go hi we got a package from you but it's not the dress 0.94

00:20:41.420 it's a shit piece of shit t-shirt okay it's like a 15 t-shirt i was returning i go excuse me oh god 0.97

00:20:49.460 i start to spiral i'm on the phone with amazon the guy's sweet egos i gotta be honest like you're 0.99

00:20:54.040 never gonna see that again i was like thank you so i returned on the phone with amazon you got

00:20:59.800 through i got away d oh honey i got through like that impossible it's such a terrifying machine how

00:21:04.120 how well it works it's like completely eerie so then i get a real person on the phone so my dress

00:21:09.920 has is now rotting in illinois it's it's at some packing center and so once again i took money

00:21:17.740 and threw it out the window into a tree yeah and i thought well that's it you are you are banned

00:21:24.300 And, and by the way, this also gave me a little bit of a self-loathing spiral because I thought, so the executive functioning that I know I'm unable to complete, like I can't even go with two labels and go, this one goes on that one.

00:21:36.580 It's like, it keeps happening.

00:21:37.500 Right. You can't hold, hold consciousness in a continuous manner.

00:21:42.100 It's so bad. So there is something about, cause I agree, we've talked about this, the hell of returning, it's impossible. It's a full-time job returning.

00:21:48.680 Yeah.

00:21:48.880 So, but today I'm excited because I'm physically going to the mall to get the computer.

00:21:52.660 So I am going to stroll to Sephora and in person, I'm going to return a body shimmer.

00:21:57.080 It's too much glitter in it for me.

00:21:59.400 I just can't imagine going to the counter, waiting in line to do that.

00:22:05.180 I mean, I know there's sort of, they have those free roaming sort of.

00:22:07.760 As soon as you said waiting in line, it's a hard thing.

00:22:09.720 yeah and the knot in my stomach as i walk up to someone say hey i want to return this half

00:22:15.400 mutilated uh you know you know thing and then just them register that in the face and you know i 0.67

00:22:22.040 legally hold them to their policy you know what i mean while they look at me and think i'm a 0.95

00:22:26.160 deranged asshole like to me it's not worth well i want to also you know i'm gonna go to sephora 0.92

00:22:32.020 i need some new hair product i need a new hair product whatever but then you know what i'm 0.98

00:22:35.560 really excited about you're making it okay i'll already be there i already have to wait in line

00:22:39.360 no I'm making it okay but then you know what I'm really excited about swinging by the Chanel makeup

00:22:43.460 counter I don't know Macy's or something because there's an eyeshadow palette guys I did it I bought 1.00

00:22:48.540 eyeshadow brushes and everything's changed oh my god and thanks for the poog to the hags because

00:22:53.620 on Instagram I was like I want to get brushes brushes and someone was like Morph has a good set

00:22:57.960 and then I ran it by a makeup artist friend they're like yeah totally affordable I have brushes now

00:23:02.860 I've been using two eyeshadow brushes from CVS, but I have the brushes now and I'm going to get an eyeshadow palette that won't, because guess what?

00:23:13.760 As we all know, my, my, my NARS palette that had the front just broke off mercilessly.

00:23:18.960 I can't travel with it.

00:23:19.840 It's, it's, it's an at-home palette.

00:23:21.340 I should have it sealed to the wall so that I, so I can, you know, it's useless.

00:23:26.520 Vertical palette.

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00:27:01.640 i before london went to target sort of pilgrimage to target from my parents house

00:27:11.120 you know i go there to sort of reckon with my life to sort of wander the aisles and buy products to

00:27:16.440 kind of ground me in my own processes of life of course and so i went there and i go and

00:27:21.160 particularly before a trip it makes extra sense okay i'm going to get a little toothpaste whatever

00:27:25.200 those kinds of things and i go what did i experience there i spent a long time studying

00:27:30.460 the brushes ended up with a Sonia Kashuk oh yeah which has sort of been the kind of um I feel like

00:27:38.000 the high end of Target for the last 10 years like in that section it was like she was selling the

00:27:43.020 brushes there are others you know the what is it elf you know yeah right looking around and there

00:27:48.780 was a set that looked like the set I wanted but I could not I loved it had matte texture and it

00:27:54.140 kind of like neutrally maybe like warm taupey gray matte kind of handles right the set of brushes

00:28:00.480 then there was this rose gold sort of plastic rose gold the metallic parts were this and I just

00:28:08.400 there's a very particular rose gold that has lost oh any charm for me absolutely all rose gold

00:28:15.940 and well yeah I mean I mean I'll if you if rose gold in terms of jewelry is what someone's loved

00:28:22.260 in love for ages sure but i mean the like proliferation of rose gold in of course products

00:28:27.520 okay and it's a bad rose gold it's really it's not a good color and there's something about it

00:28:33.040 like literally i was like staring at it going like i kept i kept spotting the brush returning to it

00:28:37.840 going oh there it is oh look at that mad texture and then the rose gold okay and going oh right

00:28:42.340 this is why i didn't want this okay circling the aisle again like a fishbowl forgets comes back

00:28:47.780 sees it again gasps yes you see what i'm saying and then and then remembers again with the rose

00:28:52.420 gold i went over and over again it got to a point where then i was trying to decide whether to go

00:28:56.460 between the package and get their like the full line of you know the six brushes that whatever

00:29:01.200 the full kit but then they also have similar to sephora individual brushes you can buy okay and

00:29:07.300 and it's like number 43 number whatever and they're more specific and they're more you know 0.98

00:29:11.360 targeted and so i start to go like well who am i just like the average asshole who wants you

00:29:17.280 know blush foundation eyeshadow and and contour you know like like this like five set thing that's 0.82

00:29:24.040 the most generic or do i want you know and then i started to go do i get the full eye set and the

00:29:28.420 full other set combine them what's that going to be they're not matching this is hell okay oh then

00:29:33.240 i go all right i have to pick it out individually a la carte however of course in target they are

00:29:38.940 a la carte they are completely not in their correct containers right it's chaos okay so

00:29:44.960 it's 43 and 27 or over in 162 so now i'm organizing the section literally okay i'm going through i'm

00:29:53.020 plucking things out i'm putting them in the correct thing like i'm working the the aisle

00:29:57.040 yeah because i need to see what's what and it's just it and that's where executive functioning

00:30:01.760 leaves me in the aisle for 45 minutes going you know and then coming home depleted now

00:30:07.260 what i was able to do the change the growth yeah is that i was able to still finish it off with a

00:30:12.740 purchase okay where in the past you would abandon he's sort of this crisis of meeting yeah would

00:30:19.000 lead to fuck it i have to reconsider everything and go home that's what happened with the brushes 0.57

00:30:22.760 because i was by the way on the morph website panicking screen grabbing sets oh god this one 0.99

00:30:27.220 that one well that one's cheaper and you don't have to spend again they're affordable and i've

00:30:31.380 heard this time and time again if you take care of your brushes that last forever folks you know

00:30:35.040 so yeah i almost abandoned the whole thing and i thought just make a choice and that's i'm i'm

00:30:42.220 using that today with my computer folks because i'm going just go there you need the computer

00:30:46.220 and you need it now don't deliberate forever also your computer's like relatively old and busted so

00:30:52.660 literally the cheapest thing you get there is is going to have more updated better chips okay

00:30:59.680 it's already a new chip you compare the specs of what your current computer is to the cheapest

00:31:04.280 one over at the mac store i'm getting the lowest you're going to be soaring you're gonna be soaring

00:31:09.940 oh I'm already I have like worked at a writing today and I'm like when I come home I'm gonna be

00:31:15.780 in a Paris cafe with because I'm gonna have a new computer I mean can you imagine just tapping away

00:31:20.120 I can't me oh no I can I meant for myself just tapping away like without um well I'm back to

00:31:28.400 the ergo question I'm back to the ergo question you know horrible headaches whatever if I if I

00:31:33.280 type in any position other than I don't know what and so I'm gonna I've relocated my um you know my

00:31:41.140 homemade ergo thing it's not a joke I'm not like arbitrarily interested in ergo for its own sake

00:31:47.600 it's blinding pain nightly after hours of ADD writing and just to be clear you're talking about

00:31:53.540 ergonomically typing some typing the way it's ergonomically safe oh I'm talking about so so

00:31:58.540 instead of my shoulders are hunched and my arms are floating in the air tap tap tap okay and

00:32:03.260 i'm in a full shrimp like curl yeah okay yeah over my computer and then i because of the hyper

00:32:09.780 focus i go into that state and i don't notice that i'm in it and then brutal pain at night

00:32:14.520 and in the morning okay and the complete rounding of the shoulders the whole thing it's so bad and

00:32:20.560 it's it's killing me that the neck muscles in the front are so tight from being shortened okay from

00:32:25.480 that position that literally if i stretch my neck muscles i cough it's that tight it's constricting

00:32:31.420 me okay Jesus Christ so I'm a shrimp I'm a dry shrimp like dying over my computer so I'm also 0.98

00:32:39.980 thinking of getting a posture bra okay one of those ones that fucking pulls your your your 0.98

00:32:44.560 shoulders back forces you into the position now I wonder is that going to be a crutch okay like 0.98

00:32:49.520 it's actually going to weaken me like it'll pull me into the position right because then you take

00:32:52.580 the bra off and all hell breaks loose yeah yeah then I'm I've nothing I've atrophied entirely

00:32:57.200 yeah but i think i think more is a trigger i'm gonna re i mean this is the the theme for me

00:33:03.000 right now is i have all the products i have all the tools do i have the energy to use them yeah

00:33:07.200 i know that's kind of where it's at like i um you know the upright go okay it works what the

00:33:17.240 hell is that but where is it it's it's something i i bought one and then i i i think they sent us

00:33:23.260 the updated one oh sure sure sure sure the posture thing it buzzes when you when you tilt down and it

00:33:28.940 works i mean it it fucking works so you'd think maybe i'd try to use it right of course think 0.53

00:33:34.880 again it's almost like i have to devote my life to like this is the problem it's it comes back to 0.95

00:33:41.380 this once again devoting my life to like today is all about my posture and and whatever and then 0.98

00:33:48.200 the fuck it play injured like what's my life about being well like is that like you know what I mean 0.97

00:33:55.920 yeah I mean like I mean like well within it well no if it's blinding headaches I think I have a 0.99

00:34:00.440 blinding headache is rough I had I had a migraine for like two days this week which was horrifying

00:34:05.740 and then I had I texted you because I was getting in my head because I took naps two days in a row

00:34:11.220 which is very unusual for me and woke up with such a deep fatigue and such a complete I was

00:34:15.880 completely lost I chose to do both nights and I was like I can't do it it was like the most of course

00:34:21.820 in the bones fatigue and fear the witching hour of 4 p.m on a show day cannot be under overstated

00:34:29.080 yeah I went I remedied with a cheeseburger I was like I'm gonna go get my favorite cheeseburger

00:34:33.700 it's gonna bring life and you know what I did oh god folks I chugged a Red Bull backstage well

00:34:40.240 and it worked here's my question I literally I haven't had Red Bull in so long that I can't

00:34:44.680 remember is it carbonated no yes we're forgetting yes slightly see if i drink carbonation before

00:34:52.800 taking the stage you burp i'm i'm feeling the desire to and it's just it's a nightmare yeah

00:34:58.820 um that particular humiliation well as we all know i've kind of i'm not doing carbonation as much

00:35:04.840 that was my issue with celsius i had to go i had to go they have they have uncarbonated versions

00:35:10.860 that i was doing when i was jacking myself up before before a show maybe if i'm gonna if i'm

00:35:15.980 gonna develop a gentle red bull habit i should switch to sales no you know what i should do

00:35:20.040 remember i talked about this in a really old poog the matcha the carbonated matcha

00:35:24.200 hustle i think is the brand and i drank that in a public park once and was so american hell

00:35:30.220 was spiraling like doing like donut holes like in the park it was completely

00:35:35.100 high. It was crazy. Donuts. Okay. You said donuts and I was like picturing moving around

00:35:43.780 and start kind of picturing skateboarders or something. I'm not even sure. Imagine me doing

00:35:47.320 donuts. You were doing Dunkin Donuts munchkins. Yeah. Just shoes. Just, just, I was like staining 1.00

00:35:53.440 the pavement through how fast I was like, there were rubber burning. There were burn marks in

00:35:57.960 the pavement of the public park because I was running so fast. Yeah. But yeah, devoting the

00:36:03.640 whole life to the, like this morning, you know, for, cause again, I've relapsed on social media

00:36:08.060 this morning. I rolled awake. Oh, here's something that I purchased that I really like

00:36:12.280 is the drowsy face mask. It's like, again, advertised to me, I think on Instagram. It's

00:36:17.160 like a huge weighted. It's not weighted. It's not weighted. Oh, it's just darkness. It's just

00:36:21.720 like darkness, but it's silk. And I love it now. I really love it. And it's just gently floating

00:36:27.360 on your face, gently floating on the face. God, see that big, I need it. I want, I've seen big

00:36:32.460 ones but I want I I'm interested in the one that looks like a beanbag like whatever the one that

00:36:38.140 completely covers oh no but the well that one intrigues me for airplanes or whatever but this

00:36:43.080 one is nice that one intrigues me for life itself but I but I woke up and I did the thing which is

00:36:48.900 like toxic which is that I rolled over and this is the thing I haven't allowed myself to do but

00:36:52.580 now I is is just immediately on the phone right like I go to Instagram I woke up going take your

00:36:59.200 coffee outside okay i go take your coffee outside leave the phone leave the phone leave the phone

00:37:03.960 and i'm pretty good as you know with getting in and getting out like i don't go let me go over

00:37:09.120 to instagram and scroll never i go in with a purpose and then i get distracted by the first

00:37:13.100 thing and then the thumb moves yeah okay and i but i'm usually out within like six scrolls like

00:37:17.860 i'm like what am i doing yeah this is hell so i'm getting to the point where i want to separate

00:37:23.420 everything out right like like old like the fact that the phone does it all is the problem kind of

00:37:28.940 Like I want my typewriter over here.

00:37:30.560 I want a landline over here.

00:37:32.700 I want a camera in the corner.

00:37:34.960 Yeah.

00:37:35.520 Yeah.

00:37:35.840 A camera in the corner.

00:37:37.480 Okay.

00:37:37.880 I want it all separate.

00:37:40.220 I'm just imagining, is there any, I mean, there's no way.

00:37:43.100 Okay, fine.

00:37:43.940 The phone will be a text messaging machine, but even that, okay, actually I've decided

00:37:48.320 hell.

00:37:49.180 Okay.

00:37:49.440 It's too much.

00:37:51.660 Like I'm finally becoming like the most obvious, like revelation of like, of like 15 years

00:37:57.300 you go like we just have these devices in our hands all day long you know what i mean but i'm

00:38:02.600 like i don't like looking at something small also it's unfortunate because you completely warped i

00:38:08.860 didn't hear whatever you just did i didn't get it all well i did do a voice yeah i know and i

00:38:15.180 couldn't hear confirming that wasn't it performance and i missed it entirely all right you loved it

00:38:22.500 No, just just oh, the performance I went into is that I'm coming around to like the thing people have been saying for like 20 years.

00:38:29.540 Like I'm like in the most the biggest cliche.

00:38:31.780 I'm like, we just walk around with these devices in our heads, tethered to these devices in our hand.

00:38:37.840 You know what I mean?

00:38:38.220 But but I don't know.

00:38:40.220 Something's got to give.

00:38:41.660 And just a series of cliches.

00:38:45.080 You know, I don't know.

00:38:46.140 Something's got to give because at the end of the day, you know, when it comes down to it, it comes down to it.

00:38:52.060 yeah it is what it is yeah it is what it is i want to be present and um no that's not true i

00:38:58.600 don't want to be present okay that's not what that's not the goal no one does it's it's it's

00:39:03.020 i want to watch tv over here when i'm watching tv like because the problem is there's no

00:39:09.660 spatial remembrance or experience because it's all unfolding on the phone like there's no

00:39:17.040 temperature on the internet folks yeah that's why we can't form memories i mean that's the whole

00:39:21.480 thing no way so so we're just completely disembodied the scrolling prevents there's no

00:39:27.140 there's no memory you can't form a memory on a phone like you can't so all you get remember

00:39:31.140 anything is feelings yeah all you do is you walk away with depleted feelings even reading on a

00:39:36.080 phone no remember of what no remembrance of why even reading on a phone they've proven like doesn't

00:39:40.780 get in like you're like i'm reading an incredible article on the phone i'm laughing i'm like i'm

00:39:45.640 like they've proven that yeah that's like you need the physical thing in your hand or it's like you

00:39:51.120 can absorb the information of course but it goes and it truly goes like a different place in your

00:39:55.580 brain i don't know look it up but it's true no i like it i mean i'm intrigued and i do continue to

00:40:00.440 to lean on on paper books because well for me the spatial feeling of moving through a book

00:40:05.960 is different than a line across the bottom of a screen that's why i won't get behind the kindle

00:40:10.700 i know that it's it's but it's potentially you know no huge for many to me that's godless

00:40:17.220 Well, right.

00:40:17.820 I mean, yes, but sometimes it's more godless to not real read when you got to read.

00:40:24.940 OK, like I do have a lot of books on my phone.

00:40:27.860 No, I'm saying I actually admire people who people who have their Kindle.

00:40:32.280 They're reading novels.

00:40:33.080 They're like, I'm reading three novels a week.

00:40:35.120 And they're going at what point is it?

00:40:37.280 I'd rather got I'd rather claim it's godless to read a print anything but a print book.

00:40:42.060 And thus, I never read.

00:40:43.220 Right.

00:40:43.520 okay or have to find god through the murky you know digital landscape to cling to the words 0.95

00:40:50.960 themselves to fight like and so that's the bargain i'm constantly making well not to be a bitch but

00:40:55.640 i always read with a pen and i i mean for the most you know i don't know why you would think 0.86

00:40:59.840 that's being a bitch when i too do the same and i use the highlight and screen grab function okay 0.82

00:41:04.820 okay and there's a see but that panics me like like doing a digital underline i'm like it's hell 0.97

00:41:10.900 You can't write in the margins.

00:41:12.120 There's no marginalia.

00:41:13.260 You've eliminated marginalia.

00:41:14.960 Well, there is a note thing.

00:41:17.260 The marginalia comes in the form of a little bookmark note.

00:41:20.640 Oh, no.

00:41:21.040 It's bad.

00:41:21.900 I'm not pushing it.

00:41:23.060 No, I know.

00:41:23.400 I'm just getting upset.

00:41:24.660 I'm trying to defend that I continue to use it because I'm a voracious reader.

00:41:29.820 Yeah.

00:41:30.700 Okay?

00:41:31.140 And I'm on the plane.

00:41:32.040 I would pack books, okay?

00:41:33.720 Like six.

00:41:34.540 If I, like, I can't go to the bathtub without minimum six books, okay?

00:41:39.260 because I go options yeah once I'm in there I'm trapped and I realize you know I actually want to

00:41:44.600 read this or whatever and so so therefore you know I have and I do download samples

00:41:50.340 from the kindle I search a topic I'm interested in hit download sample do a little reading and I

00:41:56.260 was packing books and it was hell taking them internationally like six books oh you can't

00:42:00.380 books are heavy oh yes they are honey they're actually heavy and I'm not talking about hard

00:42:05.720 covers folks classic paperbacks yeah okay paperbacks wait i mean paper has weight who would

00:42:15.740 have thought you get enough paper together that thing that little oh they say oh that's papery

00:42:20.740 how are they so heavy let's take a second with this talk about some of the parts talk about the

00:42:27.020 some of the parts folks how is a book so heavy how consider each leaflet right because here's

00:42:33.760 thing each leaflet it's like how it seems like a penny can't add up to anything like you literally

00:42:38.160 could never get to a dollar with a penny yeah and it's like you could but what do you mean

00:42:42.640 because because because a dollar is a hundred pennies what do you mean yeah like it feels

00:42:46.760 like they wouldn't add together like a penny here a penny there i just mean like it's a similar

00:42:50.320 mentality like how cumulativeness you and me struggle with cumulativeness okay we take wild

00:42:56.780 leaps between states instead right nothing something nothing something yes right right

00:43:02.540 cumulative requires and sort of executive functioning element of of being tacked down

00:43:08.760 to time and I think maybe it's not executive functioning I don't know what it is but no I

00:43:14.320 just like with writing or word counts you know I've done this like okay what's 60,000 words okay

00:43:19.160 a 60,000 word book and then I divide that into 60 and then I put post-its and I go each of those is

00:43:24.180 2,000 or whatever and I go you know I mean that that wasn't the accurate number but exactly the

00:43:30.180 point right and then i look at it and i make a little spatial thing of what a thousand words

00:43:34.240 look like i make a tiny little visual of what a thousand words like print it really small stick

00:43:38.340 it on a post-it to understand like to make tangible and then i like made it like a presentation

00:43:43.640 myself like okay writing a book's not that many words right whatever right some inches try to

00:43:48.060 make tangible right okay i'm trying to make physical so that is all to say here's the issue

00:43:55.120 Take a page, right?

00:43:57.440 Think how light it is, right?

00:43:59.700 Add another one to it.

00:44:01.160 You're like, it doesn't even feel like it doubled.

00:44:05.060 And yet, see what I'm saying?

00:44:07.460 Say it again.

00:44:09.520 My learning disability got in the way.

00:44:12.020 Like, I'm agreeing.

00:44:13.780 No, I'm not trying to teach you how 300 pages makes a heavy book.

00:44:18.640 I'm actually doing the opposite.

00:44:19.920 I'm investigating the reason that it's hard for us to imagine.

00:44:24.520 that because you know that weight is weight we both know if a page weighs x amount of weight it

00:44:31.220 can add up yeah right but it doesn't seem like it because you imagine something light being added to

00:44:37.800 something light being added to something light you're waiting for it to take you're waiting for

00:44:41.640 a sense of weight weightiness to take yeah and it's not taking in the brain like remember eugene

00:44:47.540 merman had that joke it was kind of about like how hard it is to imagine infinity it was like

00:44:52.180 he's like so just imagine you have like a spoon and you have a box of spoons like you add another

00:44:57.240 you add another like you just get doing it like i forgot it i don't know but it was it was like

00:45:04.120 the exact same point space man well yeah let's take a minute with it folks let's take a minute

00:45:08.820 i'm taking a minute with now i'm going to space now i'm going to the stars oh well well the biggest

00:45:15.120 idea is

00:45:16.820 do you remember learning that like one over infinity

00:45:19.020 is

00:45:20.680 one basically zero

00:45:23.100 uh oh okay

00:45:24.520 what the hell 0.62

00:45:26.960 and so

00:45:28.580 there was something that used to really

00:45:31.020 blow me away here oh and then

00:45:33.340 now I've

00:45:35.420 lost it I'll prepare it for next week

00:45:36.980 I'll prepare it for next week it's as simple as that

00:45:38.620 great well I have to leave soon anyway

00:45:41.240 because I have my apple appointment let's be honest

00:45:44.340 You have an appointment?

00:45:45.720 I made it.

00:45:46.480 That's funny.

00:45:47.040 The woman on the phone suggests that I make an appointment to purchase my computer.

00:45:51.380 Wow.

00:45:53.400 That's, that's interesting. 1.00

00:45:57.520 Probably so they can upsell your ass. 1.00

00:45:59.700 I know. 1.00

00:46:00.120 I'm going to leave there with like beats. 0.99

00:46:02.400 I will say just fucking get AppleCare. 0.99

00:46:05.660 Just do it. 0.99

00:46:07.060 Oh, I always do it.

00:46:08.300 You just, you have to, right?

00:46:10.400 Well, some would say you don't, but you literally do.

00:46:12.820 Even though AppleCare, I believe, has come to, with every passing year, give you less and less.

00:46:18.660 They're like 24-hour.

00:46:20.140 They still want to punish you if you don't have it.

00:46:22.160 So if you want to avoid future punishment, like, I'm not saying it's going to do great things,

00:46:27.800 but at least there won't be a moment where they go, well, you're standing there, they go, well, because you didn't opt.

00:46:33.260 You didn't opt.

00:46:34.780 Is AppleCare a thing where if you drop your computer and the screen shatters, let's just say,

00:46:38.940 you get to walk in and they give you a new one?

00:46:40.420 Is that what that is?

00:46:41.140 it used to be honey

00:46:43.060 and I'm not sure what it is anymore 0.99

00:46:45.680 but that's what's so fucked up 0.99

00:46:47.160 I just keep paying 0.99

00:46:49.860 going even if they're giving me less and less and less

00:46:51.880 it's like now they just

00:46:53.780 they find a way to punish you if you don't have it

00:46:55.840 so now you just have to

00:46:57.760 get it

00:46:58.240 I'd say

00:47:00.500 I'd say

00:47:02.080 okay thank you

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00:50:06.080 Well, I went to a public gym yesterday.

00:50:18.620 What?

00:50:19.160 I went to a gym, masked, in an empty time.

00:50:22.600 And I went in, you know, which I've never done. 0.98

00:50:25.120 And I did my Tracy in the fucking room, on the mats, next to where people do weights. 0.98

00:50:31.080 Were there other people? 0.99

00:50:32.920 I went in when it was empty.

00:50:34.200 That was my plan.

00:50:34.880 And I was trying to figure out when it's empty in there because I'm doing it with a mask.

00:50:38.820 But I just I've been I've become so obsessed with hanging large scale mirrors in my home that it's taking up my entire life.

00:50:45.440 Really?

00:50:45.940 Research mirrors. Yeah, I've been researching mirrors and it's exhausting.

00:50:48.800 And so I said, you know what, I'm going to put on a mask and go go to the gym. Right.

00:50:52.820 I go I'm doing Tracy on my phone, tiny phone, following her movements.

00:50:58.580 And, you know, I just had to be like, yeah, boys, like this is what I'm doing.

00:51:04.880 you know what i mean i i can't imagine the strength and bravery of that i mean i just

00:51:08.980 that's why i haven't been to a gym in 4 000 years but also the idea of like in a hotel context or

00:51:14.460 something like that a small just a room oh i've done it been doing it in hotels i've been doing

00:51:20.420 it in hotels too and um a lot of times it's empty or there's like a yoga area room that's just

00:51:26.740 completely on its own and you just go in it's very strange but yesterday i fully had to sort

00:51:30.940 of just like keep my eyes on my own eyes as I was doing like really wild intense moves you know and

00:51:36.500 and there was one moment where I saw like two like like young men kind of like silently chuckling at

00:51:43.420 each other in this way that I felt like I don't know like I caught them making like it's completely

00:51:47.840 rude to assume that I that they were laughing at me of course but it was almost like I caught them

00:51:52.320 like how could you not interpret it like like kind of like doing a silent laugh to me that's

00:51:57.020 like protecting me from it and it's like burn boy i don't think they were necessarily laughing at me

00:52:03.440 okay no maybe they were laughing at each other because one of them you know was clearly jealous

00:52:08.620 of my movement yeah exactly so i'm doing i'm doing the whole thing in there and then and then whatever

00:52:13.520 and i have not done tracy in a month and a half i haven't worked out i haven't moved it's been

00:52:17.620 whatever and um as you know and yesterday i decided uh the buck stops here folks okay i

00:52:23.160 decided like i literally like grumbled and cried about how i have to use my tools oh no okay like

00:52:29.180 it's time to get serious like i have to turn on the old the old white you know the old sun lamp 0.98

00:52:33.780 again at 6 a.m i got to do all the shit journal fucking meditate the whole thing you know and 0.97

00:52:39.740 and so i'm like i'm going to the gym it's like and i just like march over furious and proud of 0.98

00:52:44.780 and i go in and i do it and i did like three quarters of it which great to me the the courage

00:52:50.060 to stop because i really don't like stopping when i've done one half as in one side okay by the way

00:52:56.620 i'm sorry i have to break through i just understood three quarters for the first time in my life

00:53:00.840 this is a huge block no like i was shocked and i still remain shocked okay this is almost a cup

00:53:06.920 okay so like so math for me is very abstract with these things like it's like i'm like i can't tell

00:53:12.480 you how hard this is this is the same exact no i get it i get it a cup always been like that's a

00:53:16.720 cup. Three quarters to me, that sounds like tiny, right? Three quarters to me sounds like

00:53:21.120 less than a quarter. It's like three quarters. Like I can't explain it. I get it. You have to

00:53:28.080 trust me. Thank you. Thank you. I know you think that I'm the math one. Okay. I'm as deranged.

00:53:31.980 For some reason, you saying it three quarters, I saw it. I went, Oh, three out of four. I saw it

00:53:38.080 for the first time. Yes. Yes. I said, yes, there's four cubes. Three of them are full. Yes. That's

00:53:44.540 almost four cubes one fourth is one of the four cubes yes that's just a little bit two cubes is

00:53:52.260 two fours two over four aka a half now here's where i'm gonna fractions are you ready are you

00:53:59.240 ready are you ready so two over four you know like the fraction two four two over four you know

00:54:04.000 how they would make you reduce that to one over two just hearing that hold on hold on i'm gone

00:54:09.520 i'm slipping okay two out of four no just stay just listen to me you're fine okay don't don't

00:54:13.880 go to the blackboard you just said two out of four right the blocks the cubes two out of four

00:54:18.120 right now you you'd get a little casual and go and go look there's two out of four blocks hey

00:54:22.820 that's half yeah right you'd be able to clock that that's half look half is done half isn't

00:54:27.120 done right yeah so two fourths is the same as one half okay this is yeah this is the point they're

00:54:32.240 trying to make for us and that's why they we reduce okay they go well we'll stop saying you

00:54:39.080 know 1836 is just let's talk about it and more okay yes yes let's simplify it wow that was huge

00:54:47.380 but but kate here's the thing this here's the thing i'm with you like the only reason that i'm

00:54:52.060 like seemingly ahead okay on some of these notions is because i felt such like like shame and and

00:54:57.940 have such a chip on my shoulder about like i know that these people who are getting math like easily 0.97

00:55:02.000 and intuitively are not fools like literally smarter than me like yeah they're fools okay 0.90

00:55:06.240 and so something's up and so i have to do whatever it takes to find my own way into it 0.95

00:55:10.100 basically did you know what i mean but i i see it the exact same way you do and and like or you

00:55:18.100 know my own version of but like yes saying like that three quarters sounds somehow like less okay

00:55:22.340 than even a quarter nothing is actually right in this other way because when you divide it's like

00:55:27.640 you're you're talking about smaller parts fractions and percentages are nearly impossible

00:55:32.980 okay and but but here's what i was gonna say the whole thing about the one half and the reducing

00:55:37.460 here's the problem with education okay for me and our brain okay the intention is lost nothing

00:55:43.820 makes sense when there's no intention okay i just said to you well let's stop talking about two out

00:55:48.400 of four it's it's too hard i want to say that i did half the workout it's easy to understand yeah

00:55:53.600 rather than i did two parts out of four parts oh you did half pretty good okay right yes there's

00:55:58.680 an intention there to simplify but they teach it in this way that there's no intention so it just

00:56:04.320 well now we reduce i'm having another i'm having another revelation which is why matt there's no

00:56:09.160 intention behind math there's no story in math and no people are gonna go that's what i'm saying

00:56:12.620 we're gonna go oh there is the poetry no there's not it's numbers floating in a vacuum there's no

00:56:18.020 there's no you can't logically there's no there's no there's no story no but kate kate kate well

00:56:24.780 yes on one level okay there's no time in math it doesn't exist but there is this is what i'm trying

00:56:29.820 to say no no this is what i'm trying to know this is what i'm trying to say all that you're saying

00:56:34.660 here is exactly what i'm saying is the reason that it's hard for us to struggle okay but i blame the

00:56:39.840 way they're teaching it me too okay i'm saying there is intention okay which is how do we work

00:56:45.120 with this idea of two fourths okay well we need there is intention how do how do we reckon with

00:56:50.920 that oh it's a half that's an intention there's a reason to reduce okay yeah see what i'm saying

00:56:56.080 so but they don't teach that right no they throw jargon at you well so what we do is now we reduce

00:57:02.080 what does that mean okay no you're right yeah are you okay and there's no emotions can add the

00:57:07.360 emotion no there's nothing there's nothing tag there's nothing tacking it down okay emotion math

00:57:13.120 that's what i should teach math as emotion yes emotion and and and that's the way i had learned

00:57:19.060 it's like it's like you know you have to tell us the only way i could learn anything is almost

00:57:22.380 like making it into a story like so then we like the numbers have to want something yes that's why

00:57:28.200 they teach the alphabet for babies with like put eyes on it it's like give me something there

00:57:32.080 make make a number mean i never found though yeah i never felt i actually find it a little bit like

00:57:37.780 confusing to like talk about no but i mean sure but like to like make seven a specific character

00:57:43.500 that's different than like three in this way like it actually takes it like further away to me that's

00:57:48.540 like putting eyes on it, like actually like destroys the meaning. Right. So what I'm saying

00:57:52.640 is it's not that the numbers themselves have to want something. We have to want something and the

00:57:56.240 numbers are a tool. Oh my God. They never make it clear other than. God, you're good.

00:58:01.980 Unbelievable. Unbelievable work.

00:58:06.120 Astonishing. Imagine me just, just, just staring. Imagine my bulging eyes trying to teach

00:58:12.160 like me in front of a classroom. You should be the head of the math department

00:58:17.000 at mit they need to bring you in they need to bring you the fuck in but here's the thing here's 0.99

00:58:23.500 the thing here's the thing like like there were a couple times where i tried to like throw myself 0.98

00:58:27.340 into like the math like riddle uh department like even in college i was like why can't i join the

00:58:32.460 math club yeah okay and i go and it's not doing problems it was like it was almost like deep

00:58:36.400 philosophy of like of like math and i don't know we'll investigate it in the future okay i have a

00:58:43.300 lot more to say okay that was incredible and to that we must go what a thrill what a thrill

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00:59:36.800 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.

00:59:39.880 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune.

00:59:44.240 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

00:59:48.060 No, I am not your guru.

00:59:51.700 Back then, I lied to everybody.

00:59:54.040 They have had this case for 30 years.

00:59:56.960 I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth.

01:00:00.740 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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01:00:35.780 the more you listen to your kids the closer you'll be so we asked kids what do you want

01:00:43.160 your parents to hear i feel sometimes that i'm not listened to i would just want you to listen

01:00:48.160 to me more often and evaluate situations with me and lead me towards success listening is a form

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01:01:07.180 Crook and Chase Nashville chats with the coolest cat in country music.

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01:01:11.740 He's fun.

01:01:12.760 He is Chase Matthews.

01:01:14.260 Keith Urban helped make him a global sensation last year,

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01:01:20.020 and launched a fun and difficult conversation about lovers who cheat and lie.

01:01:25.260 That's why I'm scared to get married.

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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - July 05, 2022

Intention in Math

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