Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - Mornings Could Be Huge

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00:01:05.080 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:01:06.540 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

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00:01:19.560 Today's topic, loosely speaking, hotel breakfast.

00:01:22.940 Morning, father.

00:01:23.920 Eat the frog.

00:01:25.540 are we in are we in okay we're in okay well i will say good morning good day sir good we're

00:01:35.420 clocking in at 9 20 we had scheduled it for 9 and then i texted and had to push to 9 15

00:01:41.360 um it's a blessing i woke here we are we both have cups mugs full full of java and there we

00:01:48.620 were just remarking is this gonna be huge for us morning recording okay because i'm having the same

00:01:54.900 ecstasy i have anytime i'm forced into action in the morning okay i know it really is worth it

00:01:59.920 i'm crying a little bit okay they're not gonna fall but i'm feeling them i know i'm moved and

00:02:04.920 i feel when we first came on theta commented that she thought we looked like we had the look in our

00:02:11.580 eye that's really specific like when you see someone like like in the morning or you meet

00:02:16.020 someone at the airport okay like this is the early morning phase and i have this about the subway in

00:02:20.840 new york in the morning okay okay in new york in the morning there's this it's a there's a slightly

00:02:26.900 bloated slightly bloated but often face often yeah often often though freshly showered okay

00:02:34.160 and that's the showered and bloated that's genius that's exactly correct and so it's this really

00:02:39.280 sort of beautiful thing because you're not like repulsed because everyone's like cleaner than

00:02:42.740 they've ever been right everyone's like slightly scrubbed and like pink but then they're like

00:02:48.200 puffy they're bloated and it's like beautiful that's so sweet like little children yeah okay

00:02:53.880 waiting for Santa yeah it's really um I love that and then yes I feel like a sleepy businessman

00:02:59.840 like seeing a sleepy businessman on the train very specific it's very it's very cute okay so this

00:03:05.860 morning so I woke up I just can't believe that that remark was made about the airport because

00:03:10.160 I had my coffee and I was like oh I feel tired right now but I'm forcing myself to wake up for

00:03:14.620 poog. And I walked into the living room and I found myself shuffling around and I imagined in 0.95

00:03:21.280 my head, I said, imagine being at the airport. Oh no, no. Here's what it was. I was imagining

00:03:26.680 when you're at a hotel and you have to wake up really early to leave, you know, and cause you

00:03:31.280 have to catch an early flight and maybe you're like shuffling past the breakfast station or

00:03:35.780 something. Or when you see the other people shuffling around, getting their cornflakes

00:03:41.000 and there's this huge there's this community there and there's this like this horror of being awake

00:03:47.120 early and you're tired but then it's one of the coziest feelings i know what is that okay okay

00:03:52.540 let me let me drop it let me feel it okay let me drop into that um and this morning i was pretending

00:03:58.400 i was doing that i was walking around my living room imagining i was like you're at the breakfast

00:04:01.980 buffet you know it's 6 45 a.m okay i just want to like take a second with that because there's

00:04:07.000 something about like being like a quality in or something right okay or any anything like that

00:04:11.840 it's a very like it's like the you know mid-tier or maybe first tier i don't want to say low tier

00:04:18.220 it's as if i want well we don't have any low tier hotels in our in our roundup we have ones that

00:04:24.580 have different we have a devil tree hun yeah okay but like going down okay and like the feeling of

00:04:30.880 Oh, first of all, I can just hear that elevator.

00:04:33.960 Yes.

00:04:34.340 The ding of the elevator, the sort of reflective floor of the lobby that sometimes gives way

00:04:41.980 to carpet in the breakfast room.

00:04:44.240 OK, there's a feeling of the echoey hall and then you step in the carpet in there.

00:04:49.920 Dismounting the hall into the carpet.

00:04:51.940 Yeah.

00:04:52.320 And then like the shuffling around.

00:04:54.380 And I feel like it's always like a father.

00:04:57.380 in my mind there's like a couple characters that are always there okay and they're not but but in

00:05:04.120 my mind they are there's like there's like an older white man sorry there's a sound coming

00:05:09.480 from my kitchen that i've never heard wait let me i hear it i think i hear it wait hang on hang on

00:05:14.340 hang on. Oh my God. So here we are. Here we are. Waxing up the morning. I heard that sound. I ran

00:05:38.540 there's literal not sewage i heard you say smell i smell sewage okay we heard you smell sewage

00:05:45.020 okay so they're working on the pipes they're working on the pipes in the neighborhood i don't

00:05:49.920 know what happened but this happens like twice a year water spews out the toilet like it gets

00:05:54.940 backed up and all the toilet water goes spewing ew so that just happened wait spewing or level

00:06:01.040 or slowly raising spew sounds like spew no it's more of a spew so so there was just like

00:06:07.820 bath there's like toilet water it's not sewage it's just toilet water but it smells like like

00:06:13.220 it's like but there's something else going on i think i don't know it doesn't smell like sewage

00:06:18.840 sewage or it does no it doesn't smell like sewage it just smells like bad water like really bad 0.78

00:06:24.180 water i don't know anyway god damn it we're talking about father no i want to okay okay so 0.85

00:06:29.700 so there's a yeah there's a very specific older like silver-haired white man blue eyes in my mind 0.86

00:06:36.920 okay it's like that i see as like this sort of stoic and maybe i like project onto him that he's

00:06:43.220 like maybe ex-military okay and a lot of times he's with like his wife

00:06:48.320 tossing out ex-military is like is absurd whatever that could possibly mean yeah he's

00:06:58.800 ex-military um reserves kate saying reserves okay okay he was in the reserves for years so

00:07:05.900 always home for dinner oh my god

00:07:10.200 well because i because there's that your perspective of reserves is shocking but wait

00:07:16.460 go on go on go on the reserves it's like such an abstract concept to me of course i think it is

00:07:22.560 because that's what i'm like i'm like confused by your definition doesn't it mean like you're

00:07:26.920 not being called okay i will say this the smell of sewage is now radiating oh jesus the smell of

00:07:32.960 do it just come to the room yes yes do you have anything my warning my sacred morning okay

00:07:39.380 this is important i want to say something we're about to type at the buffet we're not done with

00:07:44.720 the buffet i have like a lot to say there's a certain father because i feel like the morning

00:07:49.860 because when i said father you pictured one but a different one immediately i pictured a different

00:07:54.040 father so i picture a father who maybe reads 45 but it's actually 36 excuse me exactly because i 0.53

00:08:00.600 was gonna say that this guy is i was like he's 70 and i'm like actually shit he's probably like 50

00:08:05.420 yeah and this guy has a blue shirt tucked in and there's always a teenage daughter there's always

00:08:09.840 a teenage daughter who's like 14 and like kind of like half pjs like oh my god kind of like excited

00:08:17.200 because she's on a trip or something and like i mean in my mind it's like she's like sitting there

00:08:21.500 with like nothing but like she's got like maybe a yogurt or whatever i feel like okay okay this is

00:08:26.740 one of the few areas dancing dancing dannon dannon wow that's really that's really a sign

00:08:33.300 about things have changed well yeah also as a hollywood girl ted danson flies to the mouth

00:08:38.320 quicker than um than a yogurt name dannon dannon what about coffee flavor coffee flavor dannon i'm

00:08:45.460 sorry but it's incredible is that where there's like coffee jelly at the bottom no no no that tan

00:08:50.620 color a tan color okay taste it's a very specific tang i actually appreciate my mom kept a lot of

00:08:57.780 like toxic food in the house like and you appreciate that no no because also also no

00:09:04.420 right just like by virtue of it being like sort of like a supermarket brand like your shirts

00:09:08.200 heavily pasteurized like cane sugar infused

00:09:12.180 yogurt product you were gonna say you're glad there were toxic things in the house i have a

00:09:17.920 guess why culture insight culture insight not a living microbe not a bacillus insight um yeah

00:09:24.900 this yogurt causes yeast infections yeah so my belief of why we're back to types my belief of

00:09:32.260 why you're happy that there are toxic things in the home to me okay is that it allows you to

00:09:37.680 connect okay it's about community once again you're happy you have quote these references

00:09:42.480 you're happy you have dannon okay like because you can connect with me i was raised at a dannon

00:09:50.440 home yeah exactly or the macaroons and the can that one time i used to drink coca-cola like

00:09:55.580 you know my i drank coke you say even coca-cola okay even like it's hysterical because it's

00:10:01.920 almost like betraying like a distance from it oh my i know coca-cola i used to drink a coca-cola

00:10:08.240 soda you know i had coca-cola as kid who the hell do i think i am oh my god wait one time i went to

00:10:14.680 a mcdonald's with with um with a family my friend and and her family and they'd like barely had

00:10:20.360 mcdonald's in their life they were like new yorkers who like you know never whatever and

00:10:25.300 he didn't know the name big mac okay like like you never heard it and he was like i'll have one mac

00:10:31.360 he was like i'm not a fan of that mac or whatever it was absurd okay back so i want to go back to

00:10:39.100 that room okay because yeah the morning so there's a few things it's like there's a quiet in there

00:10:43.380 your face is revealing that you're smelling the sewage again are you checking

00:10:46.700 yeah how bad is it we're okay we're okay i mean spurting out not only clear not sewage spurting

00:10:54.840 out toilet water spurting out of the toilet of the toilet but that sound was the sink which is

00:11:00.880 really i don't understand where the spurting mechanism comes from it's like they're working

00:11:05.540 on the pipes in the street and something goes like something there's like something goes the

00:11:09.060 wrong way the pipes are old the water backs up the water spews out okay now it's a spew see this

00:11:15.600 is what i what did i say before oh it's a spew at first then a spurt yeah okay got it no i'm just

00:11:20.280 like i'm picturing a geyser honestly you're not wrong no thank you i've never caught it in action

00:11:24.940 but the way the just you walk into the bathroom and there's water on the floor you know right

00:11:29.800 fascinating anyway i'm still convinced i don't know what i'm still convinced i don't know this

00:11:35.500 is what my father accuses my mother of meaningless contradiction okay which is you being like

00:11:43.520 bringing up a meaningless contradiction like interrupting with a like well actually though

00:11:47.840 i think the water would have to slowly raise it's the only way i could get out or whatever

00:11:51.660 it's like yeah interrupting the story for a meaningless contradiction yes it's very irritating

00:11:58.100 yeah i think it's a jewish conversational style feature not bug you're correct thank you you know

00:12:05.020 in which he's learned he's learned through that book ethnicity and family values that he read in

00:12:09.240 the 70s and it explained my my mother's side of the family versus you know the way he was raised

00:12:14.300 oh wow i have to check that out back to the room okay because there's a feeling so everyone's puffy

00:12:18.800 the father has also i'm having a somatic experience right now because i've you know i've only had

00:12:23.680 coffee i had a banana which is a very early morning travel meal and so i'm actually physically

00:12:30.060 i'm so physically in the place of the comfort in breakfast room that just continue i just had to

00:12:35.540 break it and say i'm sailing i am as well because i'm wearing a turtleneck and a sweater which to

00:12:40.180 me is sort of a fantasy of sort of an east coast chilly day or something but it's like quiet in

00:12:45.320 there okay but then sometimes like the news is on and the ex-military yeah okay like silver

00:12:51.460 haired guy is sort of like taking in the news and i'm like okay right and then so sort of the news

00:12:58.500 and then oh there's also just like the deep and profound comfort the fact that like when you come

00:13:04.200 like ding ding okay and you're tired i mean this is the one beauty of hotels is like they've been

00:13:09.360 up for hours okay like preparing the buffet it's like so incredible like because you kind of are

00:13:15.380 like just like snooze in and they're like refilling the eggs 7 30 for you i know and the eggs have

00:13:21.300 have a whole new tectonic level the gratitude for the breakfast crew i know is huge but here's

00:13:27.900 the other thing okay here's a big feeling is it huge though i feel i'm like where's the tip jar

00:13:31.840 you know no no you're absolutely right i'm speaking merely about it's huge today i'm pook

00:13:36.320 and we are doing nothing other than offering a smile the smile my huge gratitude yeah i mean

00:13:43.960 i mean um i smile knowingly and and thankfully you know but but but here's the big thing about

00:13:52.020 the breakfast okay in the morning classically do you have this when the excitement when it's

00:13:57.340 hot food okay like the excitement when you see a metal tray under a lamp okay yeah like the jump

00:14:03.840 from continental breakfast which is you know one of the biggest devastations in american society

00:14:09.220 modern history is the continental breakfast i mean it takes years before you understand

00:14:13.840 okay for you to go surely continental breakfast can't just mean some fruit a coffee and a single

00:14:19.380 roll or whatever but here's the thing i actually like i've ordered the continental breakfast so

00:14:24.360 to speak i not ordered it but well kind of almost like like i feel like there were like five years

00:14:29.240 where i was like surely they just got it wrong at this place like the continental breakfast being

00:14:32.660 the standard has to at least have some basics okay and then it doesn't because it's what it's

00:14:37.220 defined by like the bowl that it's truly the dannon a bowl filled with ice with dannon stuck

00:14:44.800 in a metal bowl filled with ice is huge yeah and then dannon honestly you're lucky you get a dannon

00:14:51.020 i feel like it's like cinnamon rolls that were made in a factory six years ago you're lucky if

00:14:55.260 you get a cinnamon roll i always feel like the pastry you want to see the pastries you don't

00:14:59.280 want them because they're you want you you want to see them i mean in those contexts it's very

00:15:05.280 hard for me not but i feel like okay we haven't even spoken about one of the biggest things okay

00:15:09.240 to me it's a combination and it's it's a combination and it has a little bit of like

00:15:13.060 a dorm quality of like grabbing things like as if for the road but then they're just resting

00:15:17.720 on the industrial table okay grab a banana okay like grab it it's like a hard-boiled egg that's

00:15:26.380 what i was just heading towards the hard-boiled egg okay and could there be anything the working

00:15:34.060 breakfast the working breakfast could there be anything more utilitarian okay than a hard-boiled

00:15:39.240 egg because it can be prepared in uh bulk right other eggs are luxury because they have to be

00:15:45.500 prepared individually for you i just want to say very quickly one time i was backstage at a fashion

00:15:50.040 show you can imagine backstage at a fashion show and i'm not kidding there was a table

00:15:54.380 and all there was was there was a huge i'll never forget as long as i live there was a huge bowl

00:15:59.540 filled with hard-boiled eggs shelled hard-boiled eggs and that was the model food and that was it

00:16:04.340 ew just a bowl of hard-boiled eggs and like evian pods of water right and i was no i'm taking it

00:16:11.840 in my silence is i just shelled eggs picture she was shelled there must have been 50 they were

00:16:17.540 already shelled so a model could pop it in in her mouth and then okay okay wait wait let me just

00:16:22.240 take this in because there was a weird thing i wonder if they grabbed them with their fingers

00:16:25.060 because it'd be a little slippery and then are they touching the other eggs yeah no the eggs are

00:16:28.560 rolling around in hell it's definitely a ew ew ew i just had the worst thought okay someone heads

00:16:33.580 over from like the makeup area okay okay okay a little shimmer on an egg yeah yes a smear of

00:16:42.960 a smear of eyeshadow powder has landed on an egg okay and you're reaching for it you see a little 0.98

00:16:47.680 shimmer or worse a fucking hair i had to imagine a hair a false lash imagine a single false lash 0.99

00:16:55.740 or what you know there are no singles almost there's only those little three prongs right 0.99

00:17:00.460 yeah the three prongs you know there's like there's the whole thing and then there's like

00:17:03.560 the little like you know we'll do a natural look we'll just add a few little of the three prong

00:17:08.100 in high school i put a three prong on the lower lash on the lower lid in the center like a like a

00:17:14.100 yeah yeah yeah me modeling like being like like twiggy i was jumping to like a perot yeah like

00:17:19.140 know like a perot like a mime oh yeah sure french sort of new please jump to perot i had like a

00:17:26.960 perot i'm actually embarrassed by my the way i used to surround myself with clown with like clown

00:17:32.260 imagery between ages of 18 to 21 no no i have an early art piece at the beginning of my comedy

00:17:39.080 which is me with a you know multiple clown nose things that i used yeah and what's more embarrassing

00:17:44.000 about them isn't that they were like clown okay what's more embarrassing is of course that they

00:17:47.800 where like the whole thing was like what's the hottest like most like serious picture i can take

00:17:51.740 and then like add a clown nose okay yeah yeah but like banana peel on top of the head it wasn't

00:17:56.780 heinously you know there were i don't know comic portraits are one of one of the most carnal sins

00:18:03.820 yeah and crucibles in our nation you know okay okay a place where one must work out questions

00:18:10.560 of the soul you know i mean and the only way out of a comedic headshot is of course 0.99

00:18:14.540 why the fuck are you trying to make it a comedic headshot talk about gilding the lily yeah yeah 0.98

00:18:20.540 by the way have you ever laughed at a photograph is there such thing is there such thing as going 0.99

00:18:26.040 god i saw like a funny photograph no once i mean surely yeah no i i know i know you're like great

00:18:33.260 i'm about to hear a story about like so my i'm talking about a funny photograph sure but a

00:18:38.340 staged comedy a staged comedic photograph no of course no but i was gonna mention one

00:18:44.480 dentist office exclusively dentist office i just feel like that's where they are where they are

00:18:49.180 an elephant and then there's like a little girl with a flower like uh-oh well that's

00:18:53.680 it's the elephant sitting on kneeling in front of the kneeling praying boy or the elephant on

00:19:00.600 the tiny chair sitting down like taking a break between you know circus abuse the circus 0.90

00:19:05.960 circus abuse porn 0.51

00:19:08.740 I was raised among

00:19:11.240 there was so much circus abuse imagery

00:19:13.420 at my various tutors

00:19:15.240 homes

00:19:16.020 no no because this is

00:19:18.820 I feel like we're going to have to go to the

00:19:21.180 break soon heinously

00:19:22.480 but what did you just say because I may 0.87

00:19:25.340 want to return to it circus porn

00:19:26.980 thank you

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00:20:42.780 So we were talking about circus imagery.

00:20:46.520 Oh, well.

00:20:47.240 Circus cruelty.

00:20:47.460 no i i wanted to come back to it because the idea i i was i was suing over the idea of um

00:20:53.080 of circus cruelty porn taking over can it can it capture the imagination okay possibly to a 50

00:21:00.160 degree of circus i just thought that's sort of an interesting idea okay like like the circus

00:21:06.240 industry fails but then the circus uh abuse documentaries fill its place do you see what

00:21:12.820 saying oh yeah so like like like industry has to go somewhere okay so it's like we go from

00:21:17.700 like the money's being poured into sea world to the money being poured into blackfish i'm just

00:21:22.940 like this is a cultural not even theory not even hypothesis i don't know what this is okay

00:21:27.100 but it's physics baby it's like it's gotta go somewhere it's gotta go somewhere you know i

00:21:33.040 really i love the circus sorry okay wait pull us back no i just keep coming back to the morning

00:21:37.960 i'm not done with the morning either poog morning is is huge and i think that we should do

00:21:42.380 9 a.m recordings because we always record in the afternoon and i feel and yesterday when i pitched

00:21:49.920 i was like this is crazy what about a 9 a.m or and now i feel overwhelmed with my new title as

00:21:56.240 a businesswoman who's awake at the crack of dawn i woke up by the way at 7 30 for a moment yeah

00:22:02.080 peered up saw my clock oh it's 7 30 i was like i could wake up but you know what i'll go back to

00:22:07.340 bed and then 8 a.m you know hit snooze till 8 15 well this is pointless and not interesting anyway

00:22:14.220 but I'm interested in this this is interesting to me I don't know why I would get down on myself

00:22:18.820 like that but I just find that the mornings there's the magic of when you wake up at the

00:22:23.000 same time every day and I for a long time have been like 8 a.m I miss and the eye does just open

00:22:28.720 like a doll's eye like a that thing that doll's eyes do 7 58 I'm doing that I'm doing the

00:22:36.080 and then the eye flutters a little more and closes until maybe eight oh four right now i'm

00:22:42.660 just like the horror movie of like of it closing and then like being like i think the demon has

00:22:46.440 passed okay the demon has left when i wake up in the morning a huge way that i'm able to wake up

00:22:53.000 is to imagine i'm being filmed or to be in the movie version of waking up continues to come up

00:22:57.780 so this continues to be the huge theme of being alive but like i the only way also i i have a

00:23:03.860 thing and i have to maybe re-examine this i feel really embarrassed for all movies tv shows anything

00:23:09.380 when it starts with a character waking up in the morning i've historically been like i'm like are

00:23:13.740 you absolutely kidding me why don't we start at the very beginning the morning like if your movie

00:23:20.680 starts and your character is the alarm going off the hand flies out of the bed hits the top of the

00:23:27.600 alarm and then the camera pans over and there's our star there she is boys there's donna okay

00:23:35.560 no no no it's unacceptable okay and like of course i'm flying to imagining that i'm a filmmaker with

00:23:43.120 a movie that starts that way i'm feeling devastated to hear my beloved keeper of course there are

00:23:48.460 always exceptions there are always exceptions there are good movies that start that way i've 1.00

00:23:52.200 been shocked because i always get upset when i see it and i'm like this fucking piece of shit 0.98

00:23:56.920 cinema with the morning morning moment and then no but there are great moments and i just want to 0.98

00:24:01.180 say the best i think the greatest morning actor is james gandolfini and sopranos wow sopranos

00:24:06.600 sopranos why can't i um i think i think we pronounce it sopranos in this house morning

00:24:11.900 acting his bed waking up as tony soprano like a little hungover you know like yeah his morning

00:24:18.380 acting is exquisite it's just it's divine no you know what it well really i well what i tire of is

00:24:25.640 the hand flying at the yeah yeah yeah flying at the snooze yeah yeah or like throwing their foot

00:24:31.820 like knocking them you know there's that there's a very they're always knocking it off yeah there

00:24:36.700 was like they're always knocking it off like I don't know it's like to sleep act see this is

00:24:42.120 something that this is a question okay and you have lots of onset experience so perhaps you can

00:24:47.440 answer but but but it's like this okay I'm always wondering how much can a director push a known

00:24:54.580 star okay very good in a basic way so you could you say to a big actor the way you're waking up

00:25:01.220 isn't believable right okay do you see what i'm saying because that's or like i'm not believing 0.68

00:25:06.880 you're drunk okay like shit like that because those are the basic like horrors of like acting 0.96

00:25:12.900 right it's like to me would be like anything that's supposed to be authentic if you couldn't 0.99

00:25:16.540 pull it off would be devastating right so like well i'm playing drunk is one of those classic

00:25:20.460 things yeah drunk is really hard but like even crying what if it were like um hardest thing to

00:25:25.420 me yeah laughing oh yeah that's that's the number one hardest thing on earth is jesus like this is

00:25:33.580 this constant struggle i have is there's nothing i think is less interesting i don't understand

00:25:39.340 when people write characters into movies or shows or anything that are funny this is genius this is

00:25:44.780 huge you you're like like what like a clever person in a movie who's funny and then we're

00:25:52.280 watching the movie going they're funny i'd like to be friends with them with chandler or whatever

00:25:57.160 no no this is genius worse than wake up acting that's and that's the thing too

00:26:01.700 i mean i mean sooner enter the reserves of the military than play a funny person in anything

00:26:09.100 right no no no right impossible task impossible task like you've been given they're like let's

00:26:14.640 bring in caper land like she'll nail these lines and then it's a bunch of like witticisms that you

00:26:20.580 have to toss off and like yeah the problem is they're probably not good right no they never

00:26:27.800 are they're never good that's the problem they never are give me a straight roll okay and then

00:26:32.620 the comedic juices will flow out of me through the truth of playing a spunky funny person

00:26:39.240 absolute i mean impossible and it's shocking that it continues to because to me that character in a

00:26:46.240 show the quote funny one like i don't experience them as the funny one i experience them as like

00:26:51.980 the recognizably human character of someone who like kind of thinks they're funny and and like

00:26:57.500 makes little jokes all the time and it's like annoying but kind of sweet like oh well actually

00:27:01.520 i'm trying to think like i feel like when i was like a kid and watching like friends like i was

00:27:06.180 just like chandler's so funny okay yeah yeah still never seen a single frame okay you haven't i heard

00:27:12.900 her say she hasn't seen a single frame not a single frame well congrats okay i guess no listen

00:27:19.020 i would love to i would love to dive in there's like 14 seasons on netflix or something no don't

00:27:23.960 by the way i'm not gonna dive in i don't know why i said that there's no need maybe on my deathbed

00:27:28.040 i'll dive in um chandler once hit on my mom i just remembered what my mom was at some party 0.89

00:27:34.300 and chandler blocked the door and said you're not going anywhere but then she breezed right by

00:27:40.900 everything was fine it wasn't any kind of a predatory thing but the amazing part is that

00:27:45.660 she was like 55 when this happened right and she only uses her beauty secrets are freaking

00:27:50.980 oil of olay okay i'm sure i've discussed this i'm sure well actually oil of olay technically

00:27:58.500 it's probably the most expensive stuff on the shelf in a supermarket now that they've brought

00:28:04.120 in the prestige brands things has changed now there's like a what is that like you know oh

00:28:08.240 behind like a yeah the ones that now appear like sometimes like locked in a plastic

00:28:14.200 it's in like a little doll preservation box yeah exactly okay a little doll preservation

00:28:20.820 of roche posse and then there's just a little like eye serum rattling around yeah so oh ole

00:28:29.200 ole oil of la is the most oil of la is a great uh product yes so i felt devastation for them

00:28:41.020 okay i just want to say i felt i remember mourning for them okay in the 90s going those poor 0.97

00:28:45.940 bastards okay with their oil is in the fucking title and oil in the 90s was considered everything 0.97

00:28:53.500 you want to avoid non-comedogenic whatever oil and i was like jesus what are they gonna do i was 0.99

00:28:58.160 like it's time to switch to ole drop the oil people and fast okay and then the oil boom okay

00:29:06.420 the argon etc returned and i was like good for you ole okay i was like i was like you held strong

00:29:13.680 you're a legacy brand they knew and it came back around and then just you know you can't pivot what

00:29:21.360 are some other ones that have changed like that like yeah like pivots are risky okay because you

00:29:26.420 start to look like you have no faith but then some also need to change wait i have a question because

00:29:31.900 I am interested in this idea of the morning of and just the the potential of the morning, right?

00:29:37.720 The soaring potential that the morning can contain. And when you have that, when the coffee hits just right and you look up and it's, you know, 945 and you think at 945, I mean, it's almost 10 a.m. here in L.A.

00:29:50.320 And when you say, no, I'm just saying, like, the high of the morning is so exquisite. And I think waking up at 8 a.m. is right. That's that's that's solidly doable. That's not you're not technically an early riser. Yeah. But that seems like a very appropriate. I mean, seven, seven would be.

00:30:09.460 no there are there's i mean i go back to the like one fucking time in my life where like i was like 0.64

00:30:14.480 you know my eyes were opening as the dolls do and then i roll out of bed start kundalini yoga 0.93

00:30:19.840 with a fucking you know candle lit that was probably 7 30. oh 7 30 is that's my goal 7 30 0.91

00:30:27.080 to be the 7 30 girl i knew you were gonna love 7 30 because 7 30 sounds good 7 30 is is actually 0.99

00:30:32.700 i'm the more i'm thinking about it's the most beautiful um combination of numbers it's like

00:30:37.280 um cellar door you know the two the two most or the most beautiful word in the english language

00:30:42.040 that was the thing cellar door donnie darko that's from donnie darko it's too great more

00:30:48.340 which i saw that movie once on it's based on something todd barry geniusly okay had a thing

00:30:55.260 in like the myspace days again i remember that was like under like favorite movie there's something

00:31:00.260 or maybe it was a joke i don't know i forget what it was but it was like so i guess uh donnie darko

00:31:05.200 a lot of people's favorite movie isn't a genius like he's so fucking truly one of the funniest

00:31:15.040 his arrow is sharp and never misses direct i mean for example like i get one of his jokes about like 0.54

00:31:22.020 can you leave people being like can you believe chipotle is owned by mcdonald's like that's

00:31:26.940 disgusting or something and he's like oh you mean uh one fantastic restaurant or whatever

00:31:33.780 was made by another fantastic i'm getting it wrong i'm gonna get i'm gonna get audio of what

00:31:39.800 what it is and we'll play it next next week okay um we're gonna start doing a lot of playing things

00:31:45.060 i just want to say really quick really quick because i find it yes yeah todd barry set up my

00:31:48.980 first website i just want to say that todd barry helped me set up kateburland.com domain like 10

00:31:54.680 years ago so that's so sweet i was doing his podcast he's like he's like why don't you have

00:31:58.100 a website i was like oh my god i don't know he's like come here literally helped me set up got the

00:32:02.920 domain like helped me do it i mean does that not make you want to cry no i weep i weep well you

00:32:07.600 know it also helped me by introducing me to the concept of uh if you have no money putting it on

00:32:13.080 a credit card okay i was i was on the road doing the great guest spot tour of 2008 or whatever

00:32:19.180 where i just begged for guest spots and comedian greg warren helped me um book a lot throughout

00:32:24.920 the midwest and and i just wanted to honor him i just want to honor him for that as i started to

00:32:31.100 say like i booked them you know you got to be careful with these narratives when people help

00:32:34.280 and you'll leave them out you know so anyway but i was like todd i broke i'm broke todd yeah and

00:32:39.480 and he was like have you heard of a credit card he is unbelievable okay but the mornings

00:32:47.960 I really do feel that I want to occupy them I feel that if I had coffee in the hands at 7 50

00:32:54.260 the day would be stretched out in front of me with incomprehensible potential the problem is 1.00

00:32:59.460 without routine in the morning until you've established a routine okay you're fucked you're 1.00

00:33:04.020 fucked okay because I have a problem which is like like the morning I do not experience an 1.00

00:33:08.440 infinite potential okay I sort of experience it as me being dropped into something I don't know 0.91

00:33:14.120 how to handle okay or navigate or carve up you know what I mean and so it's like ah okay it's

00:33:21.100 the existential you know the problem of choice I guess so it's what what needs to happen is a

00:33:26.680 series of acts like why is it I have to re-remember every morning that I have to take my Wellbutrin

00:33:31.920 in the fucking morning okay and then and then I was what it what it reminded me of was that like

00:33:36.120 multiple listeners wrote in and said um they wrote in little timing boxes they said no not even just 0.98

00:33:41.180 the tiny boxes but time caps okay the thing that has an alarm about when you last opened the pill

00:33:45.620 thing and i ordered them and i'm using them and i've never been on more consistent med practice

00:33:51.120 of my life where ding ding ding 11 p.m so the listeners there um we love you you know they

00:33:58.740 i'm waiting for um the foothold but but but but well because also if you're awake at 7 30

00:34:07.160 yeah there's a paralysis yeah unless you go right for i'm making my coffee and now i'm stretching

00:34:11.420 and now i'm doing morning pages and because that's my sacred morning right ideally i'm gonna i swear

00:34:15.780 three hours i'm bringing back meditation next week this week is already or it's tuesday it's

00:34:21.320 too late okay i'm sorry to be the the blustery self-help guru okay but kate guess what the only

00:34:26.300 way to do it is now you start today no okay next week is is an illusion five minutes today five

00:34:32.280 minutes today okay it's the only way okay listen go because i have a lot to say about sacred

00:34:35.760 mornings okay my sacred morning was huge in early pandemic and of course it was now here's the

00:34:40.920 question what happened after that morning did sacred morning lead into and i'm sorry to be

00:34:45.160 an american industrialist but did it lead to you know productivity okay it was here's my problem

00:34:51.480 yeah okay i've gone through periods like like if i if i'm going to prepare to work prepare okay oh

00:34:57.600 i gotta be in a certain state in order to do that right it will be like three and a half hours of

00:35:02.280 meditation prayer affirmation exercise showering scrubbing the lymph nodes okay it's like a whole

00:35:10.660 thing and i went through that period of my life okay like like again while i was healing while

00:35:15.020 i was convalescing at my parents home it's obviously not sustainable okay my dad working

00:35:20.480 his ass off in the in the back office so his 20s daughter you know can do kundalini yoga in the

00:35:26.960 living room okay i mean he would come out to get his coffee and there i am and it's like roar like 0.98

00:35:31.660 a lion like be sexy this is for your second chakra and i'm like ah like my dad like is like taking

00:35:37.860 his coffee back to like keep working to support me you know what i'm saying like it's like he was

00:35:43.140 very kind though he didn't he respected the meditations and the but it was hours of that

00:35:48.120 i think being raised with a morning parent is huge like a morning father i'll never forget

00:35:51.940 my cousin's husband i was doing shows in denver and i slept at their house morning father morning

00:35:57.500 father i wasn't raised with a morning father so this morning father i saw this father i remember

00:36:03.840 my cousin telling me he would wake up at 4 a.m that's what my dad does to be at the gym by like

00:36:09.560 five so he'd be done by six be showering go to work at seven and that was like that was a kind

00:36:18.540 of father a kind of person that i had never been exposed to in my direct home and there was

00:36:24.640 something I was like I was like that's hot like like no right idea of like imagine and that's the

00:36:30.240 thing of like the person you're looking for is yourself like I'm like well if I had a partner

00:36:33.680 who is awake at 4 a.m right you know praying and working out then I would be motivated it's like

00:36:39.000 no I should just do that like that's you want it's not I don't need the partner to be the one

00:36:44.380 who's on a hike at 6 a.m and it's like you go on the hike at 6 a.m oh my god yeah you cannot if 0.98

00:36:50.140 your wellness is attached to your partner's habits you are absolutely fucked um yeah but i want to 0.99

00:36:56.100 talk more about what the gym the morning oh morning father yeah i want to talk about early mornings 1.00

00:37:01.440 in our homes in youth i have a lot to say but once again not to be the trash that sends us to

00:37:08.120 the break not to be the bearer of bad i just want to say i just had a memory no i just do a quick

00:37:13.940 memory when i would wake up so growing up my bed was just a mattress on the floor which i actually

00:37:19.640 love like you know it didn't have like a frame or anything yeah so matches on the floor and my dad

00:37:24.720 would wake me up wait bye let's just send him to the break and immediately continue so here it goes

00:37:29.200 are you ready watch me do it okay you guys are going to the break i need to prove a point to

00:37:32.620 kate that we immediately come back okay fine this is rider strong and i have a new podcast called

00:37:40.760 the red weather it was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea in 1995 my neighbor

00:37:48.960 and a trainer disappeared from a commune.

00:37:51.220 It was hard to wrap your head around.

00:37:52.540 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

00:37:56.200 No, I am not your guru.

00:37:59.940 And back then, I lied to my parents.

00:38:02.560 I lied to police.

00:38:03.840 I lied to everybody.

00:38:04.840 There were years right where I could not say your name.

00:38:07.800 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,

00:38:10.480 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,

00:38:13.300 whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.

00:38:16.440 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend?

00:38:21.260 They have had this case for 30 years. 1.00

00:38:24.180 I'll teach you sons of bitches to come around here and my wife. 1.00

00:38:27.240 Boom, boom. 1.00

00:38:28.520 This is The Red Weather.

00:38:31.560 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:38:42.720 Hey, look, we're doing it.

00:38:43.880 We're coming back.

00:38:44.500 It was only one second for us.

00:38:45.520 it was ads for you guys. Sorry. Hey, back to the story. Please tell me. I forget. Okay. So

00:38:50.240 I would wake up my mattress on the floor. My dad would come in very tired and just with his foot

00:38:56.800 me like put his foot on my back or the side of my body and kind of shake me awake. That's fabulous.

00:39:03.800 No, no, I love it. I find that deeply cozy. I fell asleep on my father's foot once on take

00:39:08.900 your daughter to work day. Now he worked in the back room of our house. So I didn't have to put

00:39:15.040 on a little suit and go into the city you know he's at his home office i went back there and sat

00:39:20.140 in there and then i like was sleepy because you know i always was and i fell asleep on his shoe

00:39:25.680 like under the desk like a little kitten curled up on papa's loafer that's very sweet i also my

00:39:31.860 father also worked from home so it was the big joke i guess i'll go downstairs oh my god my

00:39:38.400 fascination and my obsession with fathers who got you know the briefcase out the door i mean that's

00:39:44.500 my morning father thing like that's i you know that archetype is huge for my father was that

00:39:50.000 before before he he struck out on his own with the own business he was commuting into manhattan

00:39:56.260 merrill lynch you know like a father it's like making that sound the reason that i do okay

00:40:03.100 is i i've trained myself to not scream okay because it'd be so loud on the mic that it's

00:40:08.980 like instead I do this horse sound that like possibly is hell to listen to I enjoy it I enjoy

00:40:14.680 it wait back to Merrill Lynch okay okay the feeling of well like well two things one so for

00:40:20.800 me the question is always is it eat that frog which I believe is a self-help book okay or

00:40:25.640 business success I I always loved as a youth frog what yes yes I'll tell you okay so I always loved

00:40:31.840 as a young gal okay 12 years old you know read everything in the self-help section have to move

00:40:35.980 over to the business section to get more in the self-optimization do you see so it's like how to

00:40:41.660 run your how to manage your your employees or something i mean it was never that but how to 0.95

00:40:48.940 get the corner office that kind of shit okay little lady you can get the corner office too 0.96

00:40:53.500 little lady books like that whatever right so anyway eat that frog was sort of i feel like 0.99

00:40:57.860 doubly shell i think it was primarily shelved in business uh and it was just this about like

00:41:02.640 doing the thing that you don't want to do first thing in the morning but not not the gym we're

00:41:07.300 saying first thing we're saying first thing okay but not like not the gym it's doing the task that

00:41:14.740 you're like dreading or that you're gonna do and if you start your day with not a sacred morning

00:41:19.660 so here's what i'm saying what if you and me and this is my optimization good afternoon got up we

00:41:24.220 got up first thing okay we're rolled over we're so tired we're like we're like uh okay like sit

00:41:29.320 down and do the thing that you know instead of preparing all day for example to write for 15 0.67

00:41:36.820 minutes that that is so fucking true because can we because this is like eight days of me ignoring 0.74

00:41:42.960 a certain email of like a tax related thing that then weighs over me right and all day it's there 0.88

00:41:48.360 and then i eventually was forced dragged yes eat the frog you have that's really that really helps

00:41:55.100 eat that frog i i feel like i i mean i really thought eat that frog and if we googled it one

00:42:01.420 line would come up that would explain but but i'm pretty sure it's like about like doing the the

00:42:06.180 thing that you don't want to do but go on well the tax email that i've been haunted by and they're

00:42:11.200 emailing me hi and like literally like i got an email that was so scary they were like this bill

00:42:15.940 is seriously delinquent and seeing those words like seriously delinquent i was like well guess

00:42:20.180 who's never paying it not me like it was like i had been it was like insurmountable the mountain

00:42:25.500 of the bill and i just because i had like two questions about it and but then guess what by

00:42:30.560 the way bill's still not paid but there was another email i've been ignoring this this story

00:42:35.500 goes nowhere and i eventually answered it and felt better immediately it's like no no this story is

00:42:40.320 actually the story it's it's an essential story and it's it's key because we we continue to resist

00:42:46.380 I mean, this is why I have spent years focusing on productivity over wellness at times.

00:42:51.520 I've never chased wellness almost just inherently. Right.

00:42:54.580 I've always been, you know, like, oh, it's it's all got to be serving the writing.

00:42:59.740 OK, whatever. And so but I'm just thinking if we can train ourselves to run to the discomfort.

00:43:06.400 Oh, my God. These are my fantasies. I get into the fantasy.

00:43:09.200 So I'm like, OK, what would happen if you if you ran towards the discomfort?

00:43:12.760 And then sacred morning. OK, sacred morning as reward.

00:43:15.560 because sacred morning when i know it's all so that at the end of it because here's the hell

00:43:20.480 let's say you do three and a half hours of you know before you do three and a half hours of

00:43:24.480 preparation okay and then you sit down at your desk ready to go with a crystal in your hand

00:43:29.860 yeah and then it's like hell well yeah and even like you're like now it's time to write or whatever

00:43:34.420 now it's time to face the thing that's whatever and the truth is it's almost like only the

00:43:38.520 ceremony that gets like of having prepared for so long that gets you to do it then but it doesn't

00:43:44.140 even because i reject it i feel like resentful of the me that set me up for this so i'm like yo 0.98

00:43:50.240 fuck you i'm gonna go eat chips okay and it's like yes that's huge for me but it's like okay 0.98

00:43:55.420 okay let's roll out of bed we're like hey what's the thing what's the thing uh well i've been i 1.00

00:44:00.140 haven't started this thing that i'm supposed to start okay i'm like do it even like half asleep

00:44:04.940 because i remember like half asleep like when i was in high school it's like the last time i can

00:44:10.380 remember an example of my own like doing something but it was like when i you know played field

00:44:15.240 hockey okay i played field hockey like at the end of the summer so waking up for field hockey i'd

00:44:21.120 have to wake up and listen to the z morning zoo okay again the way over and that's what brought

00:44:26.280 us to this oh but end of the summer school hasn't even started yet and there's three weeks of um

00:44:31.800 pre-season or something it was called and there were two practices a day again the first one was

00:44:37.080 at like 6 a.m you drive your ass over there and it's like conditioning it's like heavy conditioning 0.94

00:44:42.620 and like skill building okay and parents poor parents but you're kind of like no we drove 0.98

00:44:48.060 ourselves oh i was 16 you know oh right okay and so drive over and then um and then half asleep

00:44:57.280 begin hard conditioning and then it's like there's this thing where it's almost like you can kind of

00:45:02.360 do it that way where the brain's not fully awake it's like and this is very true specifically for

00:45:08.060 add people the thing that like for kids they're like they can focus more when they're tired so

00:45:12.100 like like the add kid is like tired and falling asleep that's when they can do their homework

00:45:15.580 because like the brain's not firing like what the brain's not i relate to that so deeply like there

00:45:20.340 would be times like of doing a show or something where if i'm like half asleep i feel like i'm

00:45:24.340 can focus more or if i'm like exhausted yeah i mean there's a letting go boring thing to say

00:45:29.980 but you have this thing where you decide it's boring and then and then decide okay i'm gonna

00:45:34.720 put up a wall and i'm like why do i keep doing that today why am i doing that today let it be

00:45:40.020 fertile as i because i'm about to reach in and pull something out you know what i mean because

00:45:44.080 i'm sorry to the listener and to you i don't know why i keep doing that i get it i get it

00:45:49.740 but just let it you know but wait wait wait so i just want to go back to the z morning zoo

00:45:56.140 the comfort oh god there's nothing though the z morning zoo for example z 100th morning show okay 0.91

00:46:02.780 also true of all talk radio i imagine all morning shows you can fucking smell the shower on them 0.78

00:46:09.600 through the radio i know it's true you really can you can smell the soap it's like really 0.89

00:46:15.840 comforting almost like even like it's yeah oh my god nothing more comforting in the world

00:46:20.120 turning on it when you're at the hotel you have to wake up early turning on the morning news

00:46:23.220 those news anchors them all crisp sprayed with foundation at 4 a.m but also there's a little

00:46:30.480 bit of the puff now maybe that's just like during election but like Anderson Cooper's puff around

00:46:35.040 the eye yeah yeah like and you know it looks like a two-year-old right it's deeply sleepy oh

00:46:40.620 or John King okay during the election was you know I wanted live footage of him napping between

00:46:45.400 takes because like I just like I needed to see him sleep you know the man was so tired he was

00:46:49.260 the one at the maps um you're exactly correct it's that morning the bloat the morning bloat

00:46:55.080 all right no but being like yeah being somewhere before i want to be there where i'm like oh my

00:47:00.940 god this is what happens like when you're forced you know what i mean like i know there's there's

00:47:05.860 a coziness to like the feeling of being tired and not happy about being awake but then getting

00:47:11.940 exquisite like let's just say like driving through like oh my god there was a drive through starbucks

00:47:17.360 we could have a coffee in our hands in seconds and then it's like let's pull over let's pull over 0.97

00:47:21.380 okay and then you get it and it's like it's like they hand you the fucking cup and that's another 0.97

00:47:25.760 thing honestly every establishment that you go into a starbucks okay the way i felt about like 0.98

00:47:30.680 my barista okay but like the comfort of going in okay like there was like one shared moment there

00:47:37.280 was one like hey okay there was one almost like being like being like me being like so okay what

00:47:41.980 about this saying your order with a tone of you've heard it before but i'm gonna say it again

00:47:45.840 okay so like wait let me let me get my order okay like um mista with the extra shot oh that's

00:47:50.860 weird wait yeah saying v to specify like you know the extra shot you're familiar with me getting so

00:47:55.440 like um yeah the uh double double latte with a you know with the extra shot today yeah it's like

00:48:00.520 a tone do you know what i mean like you know well are you i just want to make sure i'm understanding

00:48:05.000 you're talking about like when it's like your place yeah like you have a rapport yeah because

00:48:08.800 that's one of the one of the great casualties of covid was i would or one of the smallest

00:48:13.140 casualties of covid oh my god was my walk to my local coffee but i had really done the work i had

00:48:22.660 really put in the time at this coffee shop i had i had a community there and i would get a free

00:48:28.000 coffee now and then they go you know what today it's on us and i go oh doll and the barista's

00:48:31.820 name was kate okay so we had a real thing going on wow that must have been really heavy for you

00:48:36.460 walk there if i was if i would be there before 9 a.m tears streaming down my face seeing the

00:48:40.960 morning pink people with their dogs people with the babies that that crowd out in the morning and 0.95

00:48:46.560 i was like look at us look at fucking us up and at him the shoes are on we're here getting the 0.91

00:48:52.580 coffee and a couple times and actually it's so funny i say a couple times once this happened 0.93

00:48:57.980 right once i went early with a book and i because i'm always too you know it's like oh who's am i 0.71

00:49:03.540 going to really be the asshole reading at the coffee shop well i did it and guess what it was

00:49:06.620 divine and i remember running home and being like this is me now and thinking and just now doing 0.99

00:49:12.700 internal budgeting being like okay five dollars on a coffee it's worth it if i if i'm doing five

00:49:17.420 dollars but i'm reading for half an hour every morning writing in the notebook it is worth it

00:49:21.240 even if it does cost me five dollars a day to read yeah and then and then instead i never do

00:49:25.680 it again i never go back once and then i hemorrhage four hundred and sixty five dollars every 15

00:49:30.140 minutes on trash and so right right so it's like me doing the work to go can i forward the five

00:49:35.040 a day for if i see it as reading time you know if i really use that that coffee moment that morning

00:49:39.740 community moment and then the pay never return becomes no it never returned my entire life is

00:49:45.660 never returned my entire life is this is me now okay this is me now and then this is me now is 0.57

00:49:51.620 constant and it's it's it almost makes you ask i mean it's fucking 50 first dates one of the most 0.65

00:49:58.100 profound films i've ever seen are you familiar drew barrymore never saw it i can see the cover

00:50:02.400 it's like it's a rom-com that is like deeply heavy because she has a disorder where every

00:50:08.660 single day she wakes up with no memory of her whole life so it's like groundhog day well no

00:50:12.900 there's new which is literally what it means to wake up every morning exactly okay well no no but

00:50:18.080 that's that's the constant encounter with the romantic other it's all 51st dates right it's

00:50:23.560 all frying pan to the head oh this time it's brand new this time is different we you know it's like 0.73

00:50:27.900 guess what you're on the same goddamn it's all 51st no no that's that's interesting um i barely 0.98

00:50:33.340 i'm no but you know what i mean you can kind of see what i'm no no i do and i completely followed 0.88

00:50:37.780 and i i went down your path even though i know like the truth of the film and it's a different

00:50:42.100 thing because what did you say the something of the other no i mean like the search for the

00:50:50.100 magical other yeah the something of the other way the romantic other way

00:50:52.980 I haven't seen the movie and here I am being like well that's no I know that kid hasn't seen it

00:50:59.960 but I am limber and I love to follow an idea and I was just apologizing for the brief hesitance in

00:51:06.360 me supporting your line of thinking because I was holding two ideas simultaneously but wait take me

00:51:11.460 back wait whatever the point is in the film she has to sort of I think uh Adam Sandler falls in

00:51:17.160 love with her and he runs into the fact that they fell in love yesterday and now today she doesn't

00:51:21.660 remember him okay so there's that but it's not groundhog day it's new days it's like she has a

00:51:26.120 memory disorder okay so she doesn't remember right and every day so every time continues

00:51:31.480 right right groundhog day wouldn't be a problem if he didn't remember wait so hang on hang on so

00:51:37.900 you're telling me it's brand new for her every day he remembers which is also kind of another

00:51:42.560 interesting thing so as why it's deeply profound because the one lover who remembers so to speak

00:51:47.720 yeah one who there's always one who doesn't remember like well will you still love me

00:51:53.240 tomorrow tonight you're mine okay no no yeah yeah it's um there's a 51st oh waking up in the morning

00:52:00.960 oh this is me now this is me now that is i mean i hate to say it but that really is the the thesis 0.98

00:52:06.220 of poop yeah this is me now well the desire that's that's all it is this is me now and every fucking 0.80

00:52:11.360 day i'm actually getting mad at myself every fucking day i'm this is me now i mean it's just 0.97

00:52:15.620 endless and i've actually it's like the work i'm doing in therapy but it's who you are and if you 0.97

00:52:19.880 don't surrender to it i know but i also surrender to it you have an 80 brain it's good this is the

00:52:25.540 thing okay are you familiar with nanowrimo national november writers month or whatever

00:52:32.460 okay it's a thing that you know has built and built no no it's built and built with every

00:52:37.300 passing year okay it's it's this idea uh it's this thing it's this whatever happening where

00:52:43.180 all the writers okay you join you sign up on the website and you commit that you're gonna get

00:52:49.180 whatever 60 000 words out by the end of november okay you'd love it community okay sometimes they

00:52:54.640 have they've write-ins where it's like everyone's going to this starbucks whatever it's huge and

00:52:59.360 it's online and you you track your word count okay and and there's this idea that can be hilarious

00:53:04.720 greg johnson was telling me and chris about that that there's the pancers okay and the pancers are

00:53:10.840 the fly by the seat of the panthers okay who start NaNoWriMo like with no outline it's like

00:53:15.700 I'm gonna get 50,000 words down okay and then there's the fucking outline hogs okay who I think 0.98

00:53:21.980 are the real bastards who I don't think should judge because what's the whole point of NaNoWriMo 1.00

00:53:26.040 in my opinion is like to get writing okay is to get writing and so these people it's like okay 0.99

00:53:32.460 so if it's all about fucking outlining then there should be October outliners okay and then 0.53

00:53:38.480 and then november rimos okay but you see i i really resent like that kind of community 0.88

00:53:45.100 except then i love it whenever i do it it's like i think oh i like to work out alone and then i go

00:53:50.240 to a yoga class and like tears streaming in my face is like as i desperately like i'm like yeah

00:53:55.640 the feeling of if like if you get into working out like if you get into like like where i was

00:53:59.620 going to the same yoga place every day the feeling of the regulars okay and like after a few days

00:54:06.480 you're able to identify oh can't imagine who the regulars are so sweet and then you become one too

00:54:12.400 that's everything because you are regular by virtue of knowing that so-and-so was here last

00:54:17.760 time and so-and-so was here last time too and now they recognize me that's everything that's

00:54:23.500 everything is it wait i want to i'd like to know more well here we are we're at the end what honey

00:54:29.160 we're at the end of the episode you've been so we've been flying high on the morning energy i

00:54:33.640 literally thought we were in act two so to speak i thought we were approaching a false victory or

00:54:38.740 a false defeat no we have to we truly have to wrap up we're clocking in at 10 30 of 10 30 we're

00:54:44.540 boiling water we'd be feeling the steam so so this is this is the truth okay there's a seduction of

00:54:50.060 four hours of preparation but then that creates too much anxiety on the task so instead yeah i

00:54:55.700 am going to it's gonna be so hard kate it's gonna be so hard okay after what do you have to do what

00:55:00.240 do you have to do I don't even know okay well that's okay I'm gonna have to choose what thing

00:55:04.380 to do okay but for example I know I need to sit down and start one project via a 15 minute segment

00:55:10.140 okay of working and it's just you know put on the timer whatever okay so I just I need to accept 0.88

00:55:15.620 that so I'm gonna do that before I decide that I'm gonna try this today I am not fucking doing

00:55:21.540 six hours of meditation not that I do that anyway what is this I'm screaming okay I'm just I'm very

00:55:27.280 excited that poog mornings poog mornings you know the question is is this going to become a daily

00:55:32.680 radio show i know well by the way yeah it's a morning show now it's like the daily morning

00:55:37.400 good morning uh hey everyone um you and me going through the news mispronouncing um thanks oh god

00:55:44.900 imagine the hell okay so where are we we got it we're gonna have to end the episode we're being

00:55:48.780 thrust into the day okay we're at 10 30 well guess who needs a hot cup of joe i need more i have two

00:55:54.720 coffees okay speaking of morning father this is stolen from my father which is so that's morning

00:56:00.180 father you have two different things happening in them because why do you have two coffees what's

00:56:04.300 happening in the two coffees oh i'm gonna explain right now okay before we leave which is this is

00:56:08.460 inherited from my father just tell me quickly because we do have to go tell me quickly either

00:56:12.940 two mugs the wait the fact that you guys really don't believe i'm gonna tell you quickly is

00:56:16.780 hilarious okay like they've both theta writers broken in and kate is like i've literally said

00:56:21.220 i'm i want to explain why i have the two coffees speaking of morning father i'm dying to know

00:56:25.040 there's a panic like you keep saying what are the coffees and i keep trying to say it

00:56:27.800 okay are you ready are you ready this is what i always do i do this generally i want to know now

00:56:32.520 and i interrupt the person just go tell me now my father i'm sorry the sentence starts with my

00:56:38.700 father there's a keurig machine you know a keurig okay and there's the drip coffee okay and he

00:56:44.620 prepares a keurig for while he's waiting for the drip coffee okay wow so for me similarly

00:56:50.360 i stumble out of bed damn and the only thing i can't manage the nespresso that early and by the

00:56:56.100 way thank you nespresso for sending some pods really appreciate that um so i create a keurig 0.93

00:57:01.800 coffee to get up the courage to go ask chris to make me a nespresso so the ice nespresso is the

00:57:08.820 is the big deal okay is the true joy the keurig is the only thing i can manage because it only

00:57:13.940 requires three buttons and i stumble and throw it in and then i sip this coffee while waiting

00:57:19.320 for Chris to make the good one I mean I just I I have to hold my honestly I'm actually this is

00:57:30.540 really kind of grotesque I'm really sitting in my deep judgment of Keurig of Nisra of the pods

00:57:35.740 wait is it I know that they're not environmentally whatever but they have the reusables that you can

00:57:42.480 use no it's not about the environment for me it's like I'm so my coffee ritual that I mean

00:57:48.560 you understand that a sealed pod is just as sealed beans okay as you're sealed probably with 0.99

00:57:54.360 a goddamn chip clip but something more high-end no listen i use shit i don't use high-end coffee 0.99

00:57:59.860 right right it's cheap steak in the fine oil it's we gotta go okay but uh you know but it's 0.99

00:58:06.580 morning show now see you on z100 at 5 a.m i don't want to degrade your coffee i just listen to me 0.97

00:58:13.940 I'm taking it back I don't want to degrade your coffee experience it's really fucking snobby

00:58:19.340 unfair what I did I'm sorry I'm I'm not hurt I'm by the way I think part of my anger I'm not

00:58:25.720 hurting even the slightest I know I'm hurt I don't like to I don't like to um you're hurt by the

00:58:31.940 vision of yourself yes okay listen we have to go that's a story for another day I'm gonna go get

00:58:37.000 another cup of coffee we're gonna start the day this was honestly sensational and this might be

00:58:41.840 the one frog

00:58:42.640 I'm willing to eat

00:58:43.240 in the morning

00:58:43.660 so I said it right there

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00:58:45.460 it's been a morning show

00:58:46.000 the whole time

00:58:46.740 it's a morning show

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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - March 30, 2021

Mornings Could Be Huge

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