Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - March 08, 2022


Naked and Warm

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curl care routine
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1 hour and 5 minutes

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12,248

Sentence count

201

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00:02:08.720 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.
00:02:10.160 I'm Jacqueline Novak.
00:02:11.260 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.
00:02:16.000 Two untameable intellects.
00:02:17.760 This is our hobby. 0.93
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00:02:23.160 Today's topic, loosely speaking, soup cans.
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00:02:27.780 Chestney
00:02:29.120 I miss you
00:02:30.320 I love you 0.98
00:02:34.240 I want to talk about all that Stephen Lynn shit I was sending you 0.98
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00:02:39.860 I want to talk about
00:02:41.440 workout videos
00:02:43.160 because it's become a huge part of my life
00:02:45.240 and I want to talk about what it feels like to work out at home
00:02:47.060 I want to see Trigger
00:02:47.720 Trigger I have not worked out in so long
00:02:50.240 and I was so in it with Melissa
00:02:52.380 I know
00:02:53.560 I don't want to talk about it
00:02:55.340 well we don't have to talk about it i did it as a teenager and i guess i'm curious if you did too
00:02:59.620 but never did you work out as a teenager i feel like teenagers don't work out they play sports
00:03:08.000 and you didn't do that either right the answer is no i didn't work out funny i played basketball
00:03:12.940 they wanted me to really be on the basketball team but i had to choose between that and the
00:03:16.280 school play and i think we all know what i chose well yeah i could so easily though imagine you
00:03:22.860 on the court i'm secretly sporty i started working out in sixth grade and i mean there was an old
00:03:31.840 tape sorry you're actually my mother's friend had a thigh master sometimes she would take care of me
00:03:40.900 go to town on it i would yeah just ride that thigh master
00:03:45.340 i once had someone babysit for a couple days my parents went away and she brought a thigh master
00:03:54.580 it's just interesting you know yeah there was a period where toning the inner thighs
00:04:01.040 was a huge priority for many americans but i started in like sixth grade because my sister
00:04:08.140 was a teenager and she was into working out and had this she had this jane fonda's ultimate workout
00:04:13.720 challenge that i sort of would do sort of casually behind her and then you know around 12 i started
00:04:20.420 doing workout videos i had a picture cut out of of tlc on a bulletin board and their abs were
00:04:26.920 prominently featured and i was like i gotta well that's also generational the abs abs were yes the
00:04:35.420 90s and the early aughts yeah it was all those like women's stomachs continue to haunt me oh
00:04:42.340 So, well, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't refer to us as being from, you know, wildly different 1.00
00:04:47.600 generations.
00:04:49.440 Mira.
00:04:50.020 No, I'm saying the 90s.
00:04:51.220 Five years apart or so between us.
00:04:53.720 No, I'm not saying like that.
00:04:54.700 I'm saying the 90s were, I'm obsessed.
00:04:58.440 Absolutely.
00:04:59.440 It was everything.
00:05:00.400 And I was just thinking the other day as I was doing Tracy on a mat in my place, I was
00:05:07.180 like, this part of my life, this thread through my life, working out in the home to video
00:05:12.320 content of some kind i've been doing it since i've been 12 years go by where i don't do it at all
00:05:17.880 but it's like it's like a weird space of interiority the space my consciousness occupies
00:05:25.540 while doing a workout video alone with someone who's not there even if it's a live stream i
00:05:29.980 don't know there's just something you're i'm wild about it as you know i was really into melissa
00:05:35.860 wood and i was doing it really committed to it i'm talking about 15 minutes 20 minutes half an
00:05:41.440 max okay yeah loving it i haven't worked out in months that's just the truth and
00:05:48.340 i mean energy levels depleting i texted a few for the tribunal to be like do i have long haul
00:05:54.840 covid because i just have been and there's maybe truth there like some lingering exhaustion but
00:05:59.500 do you have here's a question general anxiety question body question do you have moments where
00:06:06.620 you disassociate i was at dinner with a friend and i started to go oh and i started to be like
00:06:14.480 i am not here like it just is that thing where the body i just it left me i just was completely
00:06:22.180 and i had your mind no i wasn't no that was this more of the true separation from yourself where
00:06:29.480 you're like where you suddenly see your identity as like a costume you're wearing on earth
00:06:33.960 maybe yes like i for me it usually starts by looking at my hands or my arms like i had my
00:06:39.040 arms on the okay so we're talking like metaphysical almost yeah and i was like well those aren't mine
00:06:44.200 that's for sure and then i immediately go to oh am i having some kind of like allergic reaction
00:06:48.980 to something and my mind is and i'm like i just not what that happens and that's so i know no i
00:06:54.020 know but i started that and then i i had this anxiety and i was like just breathe through it
00:06:59.380 you're fine you're safe she's talking to me i'm able to keep up but then i started to get my head
00:07:03.440 and go can she tell that I am slipping into madness she couldn't right and if it were you
00:07:08.560 I'd go help me help me help me but I don't you know well yeah he's one of my closest friends so
00:07:12.820 I just I kept going and I went you know what push through the performance of being social right now
00:07:17.540 is going to help take you out of this panic and then I also had this moment of I was imagining
00:07:21.460 myself go I thought what do people do I thought they go to the bathroom they splash cold water
00:07:26.600 on their face I imagine what do people do like in movies when they're like yeah exactly moment
00:07:30.860 at a dinner so I had this vision of myself going I'm going to the bathroom and I had this vision
00:07:36.660 of myself collapsing I thought I don't want to take my purse I had this vision of myself collapsing
00:07:41.080 in the bathroom what would happen and this friend of mine how many times have you collapsed in life
00:07:45.780 how many times have you collapsed in life once a faint I collapsed once yeah where and you know
00:07:52.160 oh my god this is you're a genius because it's bringing back memory guess what happened right
00:07:56.440 before i collapsed my arms went numb wow you are bringing it back it was actually it was a migraine
00:08:03.680 it was my first migraine when i was like 13 and i collapse is maybe stronger where i like fell in
00:08:10.520 school it wasn't a full faint is what i mean i meant loss of consciousness never so you've never
00:08:16.480 had that you've never fainted right i have fear fainting right and so this fear of collapse
00:08:23.080 head hitting the floor is purely lives in the imaginary realm for you i mean like it's not
00:08:29.300 something you've that's happened before there's no reason for you to walk around believing you're
00:08:32.860 any more likely to faint than anyone else correct right okay but i i i am imagine whoa i had this
00:08:42.520 dream last night that was really wild where i was sleepwalking and i woke up in my actual bed
00:08:48.800 a feeling that I had slept walked and but you hadn't actually you just felt it was like partially
00:08:55.520 lucid kind of in the dream I was like oh here's a new thing to fear sleepwalking like me opening
00:09:02.280 my front door going out into the street you know like wandering around well murder of course is the
00:09:09.040 do I actually had a semi terrifying confrontation with a man last night I want to say but I'm
00:09:15.960 almost like what if he now is listening to the podcast but what would he do he's got to know
00:09:19.460 this was weird I'll just say it right yeah okay so I did a show last night great crowd I'm leaving
00:09:28.020 the show with a friend of mine getting into my car this kind of like sports car like Tesla thing
00:09:34.900 pulls up and this man yells out amazing show and I from afar my distance site is not great
00:09:43.440 and i thought it looked like the brother of this friend of mine who haven't seen in a long time and
00:09:47.400 i thought for a second it was him so i approached the car and it wasn't him and i was like oh this
00:09:52.220 is some other man he goes i came in from detroit to see you okay and i said no and i also was like
00:09:58.800 i just didn't believe it upon further inspection he's probably 50 he has kind of like shoulder
00:10:04.620 length hair kind of like weird and i said i was like no you didn't he said no i really did and i
00:10:09.320 said wow and then he said i'm an anesthesiologist and i look and he's wearing scrubs so it's full
00:10:17.480 dear john he's wearing a normal jacket and then underneath the jacket are scrubs you're familiar
00:10:22.340 with the dear john wait tail no anyway it's it's it's about this like not not dirty john
00:10:30.160 yes what did i say dear john oh no dear john's that other no dirty john dirty john is a kind
00:10:36.600 a letter okay go on sorry it's hysterical he's wearing scrubs and i make some reference in the
00:10:43.460 show to a knife and he said yeah i mean i have a knife i'm an anesthesiologist or something and
00:10:50.220 then it just started to go scary and then i was like looking at him in the sports car something's
00:10:54.540 not right there no like that's if he's a humble physician he shouldn't have that that's how you
00:10:59.400 get that's how you lure people in is that you rent a sports car and you put and you you know
00:11:03.880 buy scrubs on amazon and then women are like he's a doctor mommy you know no well well clearly like
00:11:11.160 something's like fishy because if he came in to destroy it to see you why is he wearing scrubs
00:11:16.140 like his lie is so he put on his doctor costume when he got here well exactly it's almost like 0.72
00:11:22.080 the implication was like i like left a surgery and got on a plane maybe he's a compulsive liar
00:11:27.180 i don't know it was just very it wasn't until i was really close to the car and then my friend
00:11:31.500 was like i went back and told her and she was like that was terrifying watching you approach that car
00:11:35.080 but also it's it reveals i'm so if people are like i came to your show i love your show i'm like
00:11:41.920 i feel like i owe them everything and anything you know yeah it's a perfect con you mean wait
00:11:48.900 anything and everything what oh like if you that i'm just like you're safe because you love my
00:11:54.560 work you're my friend because you love my work you're right you're a good guy came yeah yeah
00:11:59.400 you must be right i think it's a little less than the perfect con but
00:12:03.200 anyway isn't that is that not sort of eerie the anesthesiologist thing it was like a dirty john
00:12:11.660 cartoon because he looked scraggly and like strange now he's listening to this and he's 0.95
00:12:17.920 like bitch it's a completely friendly like anesthesiologist who truly flew in from detroit 0.93
00:12:21.860 to see my show if he's an if he's a true fan of then he'll love the shout out on poog yeah no 0.98
00:12:29.420 but right if he's a true fan of let's just say any of it poog let's say there's nothing like
00:12:34.040 then he'd be able to have a laugh uh well no but let's just say he had reasons for all of it
00:12:39.160 in theory if he's a fan and gets your work at all then he should get the humor of us chuckling over
00:12:44.300 this yeah sorry i took us off though and you were talking about dissociation like body stuff i was
00:12:49.460 really interested in that oh yeah you led me to something like there's a realization about the
00:12:52.500 arms going numb is it that did you feel them going numb at dinner they weren't going numb but it was
00:12:57.080 it was a visual cue but I've always had anxiety in my in my hands and arms I once had a therapist
00:13:03.400 who I had to part ways with but was very grateful for what for the work we did together
00:13:07.440 and he told me oh yeah stuff in the hands is like classic you told me the surrounding agency
00:13:14.980 right i remember that one's an agency this friend i was with doesn't bring that up for me at all
00:13:20.040 it's not like a loaded friendship so it really wasn't her i wasn't thinking i wasn't preoccupied
00:13:24.200 even with other emotional material that's what made it so strange that here i'm kind of lovely
00:13:28.420 dinner having this experience but that is typically almost when those things i'm already convinced 0.97
00:13:34.140 the problem at hand is the friend who was this fucker no it wasn't that you would be experiencing 0.96
00:13:41.020 that and not sharing it what a stranger because i wanted to keep it i was like i wanted to keep it 0.99
00:13:47.160 together and it was almost like a personal exercise like no kate this were a few other 0.96
00:13:51.600 friends i go i feel weird help me and i was like you're an adult fucking hold it together are you 0.64
00:13:56.060 having an emergency i feel weird help me yeah yeah of course dinner yeah i could see you i'd be like 0.80
00:14:00.720 help i'm slipping you know there's like a few people of course i have thank god people my
00:14:06.420 also i'd spot it you think one thought i see it you do you cannot hide from that it's hysterical
00:14:12.860 i can't like i really like not being able to hide it's such a relief i'm sure i've mentioned this i
00:14:20.420 did a full battery of psychological testing back in my 20s and i just love saying full battery but
00:14:25.520 in this time when i was having my like 28 hour sleep attacks and that whole thing yeah it
00:14:32.720 included projective testing versus you know quantitative or something right it was some
00:14:36.900 kind of distinction like that and basically it was like the projective testing is like rorschach
00:14:40.440 person all that kind of shit and then the the other one is the hard data like cognitive exercises
00:14:46.160 the sum up of my psychological makeup was that i'm an over incorporator was the term he used 0.99
00:14:53.060 been googling it ever since can never find shit okay but he was like you take in 0.86
00:15:00.200 way more information than you can or would be valuable to use isn't that interesting 0.97
00:15:11.340 that is and that's very you
00:15:13.840 now i also get pleasure when i think i can guess what's really going on i do it and i'm wrong the
00:15:23.280 the other day i did it yeah yeah do you index i'm like that wasn't meant for me was it and now
00:15:28.160 you're covering i was like you're like paranoia you were like oh who was that for you even said
00:15:32.980 that you thought it was for and i was like i was right in one way i was right in one way which was
00:15:38.400 that you were acting like it was a casual question out of nowhere but i knew it was you in some way
00:15:44.120 strategizing about your own plans i wanted to be let in on that it was almost like right you know
00:15:49.680 what i mean it was almost like yeah no well of course i guess i assumed like what's like me
00:15:53.300 going what's the name of your facialist or something like what's the name of your facialist
00:15:56.460 randomly yeah and i guess and you and you go why and i go just curious but actually i'm on the
00:16:01.380 phone making an appointment it's like for some reason but i didn't say just curious no because
00:16:06.100 also going back to the you can check okay i want to go back deranged one to be clear i i know i was
00:16:11.760 the deranged one okay well but but i wasn't hiding anything we i do think this is interesting and i
00:16:16.820 feel like we have to just because it's like yeah there's nothing to protect we overly protect
00:16:20.880 you're going to london to perform at the soho theater one of my favorite venues in the
00:16:26.440 entire world and I'm going to be going there this summer it seems and I have only performed in one
00:16:32.300 of the rooms there's two stages I've only performed in one of the stages so I said to you are you
00:16:37.080 performing upstairs or downstairs at Soho which right right and I get it out of nowhere and this
00:16:42.860 is what I wanted to call out okay I get this text from Kate Berlant okay okay when you're doing Soho
00:16:48.900 are you doing upstairs or downstairs okay and I just write back why okay because it's almost like
00:16:55.100 you're not pulling one over on me well that's what's so funny the thought that there's something
00:16:57.640 to pull over that's the spirit right here's what it is right it's i know what it is wait give it to
00:17:03.360 me let's hear it i i'm gonna assess maybe this is like too within the friendship it won't make
00:17:07.940 sense to anyone else but that to me is how you have correctly seen this thing in me which is an
00:17:13.040 ocd thing but it's like securing options like what like wanting to have all options secured
00:17:19.220 before deciding if you even want them yeah i felt like a piece of meat okay
00:17:25.940 clearly you were not having it
00:17:29.140 well it's so funny because okay so here's what was going on for me
00:17:34.780 okay you were obviously planning your own touring okay yeah and what potentially like disturbed me
00:17:42.500 was that you know you could be getting that info okay first of all the loaded question of
00:17:48.980 upstairs downstairs big room little room okay is a loaded sort of general when you play the higher
00:17:53.780 ground you know whatever right and i've only done downstairs to be clear nonetheless okay it's sort
00:18:01.060 of this let's just say you're thinking about going to do that theater or something like that right
00:18:04.600 or there's a conversation about what you should do you're going i wonder what novak's doing okay
00:18:09.120 understandably i wonder what novak's doing okay that will inform your information they're offering
00:18:14.820 you the small room whatever that is right in a given scenario you're like i'm gonna see what
00:18:19.380 novek's done let me let me find out okay and you know not gonna privately google it or something
00:18:26.300 you're gonna go straight to me you're gonna get the information you need you're gonna take it
00:18:29.200 back okay here's something else yeah i forgot that you hadn't been there i forgot i thought
00:18:35.260 you had already performed there that's why i was asking i forgot that you had never been
00:18:39.540 so I thought you had like tangible experience being there that I was going to cross-reference
00:18:46.420 with my own experience right no I just it was almost like I'm going in my mind if I say
00:18:54.580 the small room okay then you go okay Novick's doing the small room I'll do the small room
00:18:59.540 that's fine okay or you know oh you find I'm doing the big room okay and then you're like 0.90
00:19:06.100 they offered me a small room what the fuck i'm going back to my agents right it felt like there 0.73
00:19:11.040 could be a reason that i am totally capable of handling like openly and discussing oh that i 0.84
00:19:17.000 was like protecting me from in this way like almost like oh god oh yeah not at all and so
00:19:21.880 then and then immediately after it was like immediately after this is where i was trying
00:19:26.400 to do my like guesswork you wrote and this was the the thing you wrote yeah he only did the
00:19:32.440 little room or something or yeah he did the he did downstairs okay yeah and I go who is he
00:19:36.820 and then you went Dan wasn't meant for me yeah I go Dan you're meeting your manager I go that
00:19:42.000 was meant for Dan clearly what clearly what you're doing in my mind I was like I caught you okay
00:19:46.580 you thought that was proof and you've just shot out yeah text to everyone you know who's performed
00:19:52.140 that theater you're collecting data for you and your manager okay to make your moves in the biz
00:19:57.900 and so i thought i was catching you reporting on someone else a he right right reporting and oops
00:20:04.820 you just slipped oops you're texting for data so quick and so fast and you sloppily landed it and
00:20:10.560 just so i understand let's just say i had been casting some wide net and collecting data the
00:20:15.400 problem the issue with you is that i'm collecting data the issue is me going hey i'm trying to
00:20:19.260 decide if i should do upstairs or downstairs that's what i would love it's more like i've
00:20:24.080 thought about it a bit because it's it was it was an interesting moment and then you were very sweet
00:20:28.420 when I do here's what is degree of difficulty if I pull off a guess at a high degree of difficulty
00:20:34.800 right like I pull off this what just happened like you're right I am yeah okay the wide eyes
00:20:41.040 I mean it was on text but like the thrill I get from your eyes going so wide at not being able
00:20:46.320 to believe yeah but not even kind of negative like even a positive like if I can guess something
00:20:50.560 like wait wait wait is this what just happened I do I feel like the greatest detective of all time 0.99
00:20:55.040 but I would never do that if I actually thought the thing you're that you were doing was fucked 0.96
00:20:59.680 up because that's like fucking cruel I do anything for someone to not see me see them do something 0.98
00:21:05.020 fucked up usually right which is his own issue you love to be seen no because in your line of 0.98
00:21:10.480 questioning was real paranoia defensiveness but then it was very sweet because I was like and this 0.78
00:21:15.740 is where real intimacy comes in yeah me being able to be like me all caps oh yeah i'm asking you
00:21:21.920 also if you were some stranger someone who wasn't that close with i'd be like hey i would give you
00:21:26.040 the whole background right but because it's you totally straight to the jugular of the information
00:21:31.600 but you but which i love no no i understand i understand yeah i want to it to seem like i
00:21:36.900 demand the explanation for what the information was i just thought i saw you and in a way i did
00:21:41.940 right because and then i'm like why and you're just curious that to me is the that to me i guess
00:21:47.720 the just curious is the i have to go back that does seem like i'm lying i don't know if i said
00:21:53.400 this or i was typing it and then i got distracted by your responses i don't know you to be a curious
00:21:57.880 girl okay just oh you're just lying around curious about what about which room novak's doing you
00:22:05.380 know i know i want to find it i felt real shame because there's something in you you somehow
00:22:09.800 there's a familiarity and comfort i have with you that's allowing like elements of my personality
00:22:13.900 to come through i know and i'm glad i think it's really shocking no i think and i encourage you
00:22:19.060 it's the pina colada i encourage you here's what it is in my defense i said here it is exactly
00:22:23.820 here's the transcript when are you going to london and remind me by the way i don't trust
00:22:28.260 you to read it completely i'm like she's gonna miss a word in her favor i'm not i swear okay
00:22:32.420 you want me to okay okay i'm like i'm like i gotta pull it up i gotta pull it up shall we
00:22:37.160 shall we pause hold that thought we go go to a break yeah
00:22:40.300 when you going to london and remind me have you done soho are you doing upstairs or down
00:22:57.060 you said why and i said ha and i said why because i was annoyed i said why i'm curious yeah and you
00:23:03.540 said it's not like you have you done soho upstairs or down i said this is rider strong and i have a
00:23:09.020 new podcast called the red weather it was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea in 1995
00:23:17.240 my neighbor and a trainer disappeared from a commune it was hard to wrap your head around it
00:23:21.860 was nature and trees and praying and drugs no i am not your guru and back then i lied to my parents
00:23:31.500 I lied to police. I lied to everybody.
00:23:34.160 There were years, Ryder, where I could not say your name.
00:23:37.080 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,
00:23:39.740 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,
00:23:42.560 whomever I can, to try to find out what actually happened.
00:23:45.900 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods
00:23:48.820 and not the obvious boyfriend?
00:23:50.500 They have had this case for 30 years. 0.92
00:23:53.420 I'll teach you sons of a** to come around here and my wife. 0.90
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00:24:38.140 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, from The Girlfriends,
00:24:41.620 the number one hit true crime show
00:24:43.940 that puts women right in the center of their own stories.
00:24:48.100 I'm back with more one-off interviews 1.00
00:24:50.220 with some truly kick-ass women on The Girlfriends Spotlight. 1.00
00:24:55.200 I want to introduce you to Sylvia.
00:24:57.640 I'm going to climb this.
00:25:00.060 And then there's Vaisaka.
00:25:02.140 Let's see how we can stop killing and save lives.
00:25:06.240 Leila dared to ask the question.
00:25:08.760 Is badness hereditary?
00:25:10.760 And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.
00:25:12.860 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived,
00:25:15.700 she wouldn't have died on that fatal night.
00:25:18.620 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,
00:25:20.240 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.
00:25:23.380 I'm not too intimidated by her.
00:25:24.800 What are you talking about? 1.00
00:25:27.380 Listen to the Girlfriend Spotlight on the iHeartRadio app, 1.00
00:25:31.180 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:25:37.840 I'm going in the summer.
00:25:40.240 Yeah, he only performed down.
00:25:42.300 You said, see, there it is.
00:25:44.440 And then I said, deciding if I want to do upstairs or downstairs.
00:25:49.720 Then you put in quotes, yeah, he only performed down, end quote,
00:25:53.280 was for who?
00:25:54.280 Dan, question mark?
00:25:55.300 Dan's my manager.
00:25:56.080 i said what it's all for you you said who only performed down and i wrote all caps me but i meant
00:26:04.140 the he i was referring to so when i was asking that question i'm saying who was the he above
00:26:10.520 and then you were very sweet and then and then all the information came out and then i said i
00:26:15.880 forgot you'd never been and then you said and this was so sweet you said love you i fear i came off
00:26:20.840 insane above but then i remembered you love me and don't generally abandon me and i said i love
00:26:26.160 you will never abandon it's the euphoria it's really cool and it's so healing it's it moves me 0.97
00:26:40.520 because i've never said that to anyone like that shit about the abandonment shit like no one i get 0.96
00:26:46.160 to play a role some of the time with you of like with an anxiety like I can sort of like put on my 0.99
00:26:52.060 put on my like wise expression and it's like I almost like go into that mode like all right let
00:26:56.700 me see if I could pull some wisdom here or something and it's heaven it's so good I become
00:27:00.220 addicted to the sauce I can't get enough yeah there's something nice about me being like me
00:27:06.280 exposing myself as a baby like this baby part of myself to you right and the kind of amazing fact
00:27:15.700 that you are almost gonna cry you are despite the spin that that it I don't know if you
00:27:24.200 perpetuate or whatever but that's sort of you as the little baby or whatever right that wants
00:27:29.040 comfort or whatever it is like that you are actually an extremely capable you know caregiver
00:27:36.220 so to speak okay now I'm gonna cry because it's real it happened also this week when I was talking 0.95
00:27:42.680 about like something in my life and you were just listening for like two fucking hours not that you 0.79
00:27:46.720 don't do that on poog i mean i talk constantly and can't shut up but it was a different energy 0.87
00:27:51.080 yeah and i was just like i don't know the things we contain within us and that was so nice and then
00:27:57.760 you being like you're a good listener because i wasn't like trying to listen i mean i really but
00:28:01.460 you and i mean like i was listening and then you commending me on that was huge for me personally 0.99
00:28:06.920 and also you also recently again my kind of i'm a baby help whatever the fuck you being like what 0.95
00:28:14.680 did you call me recently it was massively good for me to hear you were like you're tough you were 0.88
00:28:20.500 like oh oh right you call me wait let me think there's this whole part of you that i admire and 0.76
00:28:28.300 hard ass maybe yeah it was hard like it was because there's one thing but there's something 0.96
00:28:34.240 else you called me yeah that was like that's the word i need to see myself like that more i wonder 1.00
00:28:40.000 what it was around you it wouldn't have just been something as simple as you're a tough bitch or 1.00
00:28:44.080 something yeah you're a serious bastard because i've been saying bastard a lot like but kind of 1.00
00:28:50.420 in like a pleasing way anyway anyway but it's um i just like heard like phone conversation downstairs 0.99
00:28:58.120 I was like oh I know what's happening to hear an administrative call unfolding on the phone with
00:29:06.020 the passport people and like they're breaking up and it's like why are the passport people breaking
00:29:12.060 up shouldn't they be on a rotary or not a rotary a landline they should be on a thick line yeah it
00:29:19.440 should be a or you call like a business something like that where you're sure there's an office and
00:29:24.020 you're like impossibly on an echoey speakerphone oh where also are you when you so I have sometimes
00:29:30.860 like an elderly fear of being scammed or like I feel like I could be scammed so easily like for
00:29:35.300 example a couple times I've gotten a text where I have to show the person I'm with and go that's
00:29:39.620 a scam right and it's like a very clear scam and I'm like almost like wiring like money no like
00:29:44.500 I'm so fucking gullible in this way and I got a call from just a number and I didn't think it was 0.98
00:29:52.040 span i picked it up hi this is brian from bank of america whatever i'm like this fucking scam 0.99
00:29:57.460 artist piece of shit and i go uh-huh and then he starts talking to me and then i'm like wait 0.96
00:30:02.420 well it sounds kind of real i just to be frank how do i know that this is real at all yeah and 0.99
00:30:09.120 he was like totally and i told him how his number came up and he was like oh and then i said he
00:30:14.480 wanted to set up an appointment with me and i said yeah why don't you email me and then he emails me
00:30:19.740 within moments and it has like the bank of america and this is what's weird to me i think
00:30:23.820 it was legit logo's not enough the logo is not enough and truly the logo looked like shit kind 0.93
00:30:32.960 of i need to see this okay i have to bring because honestly bank of america must be humiliated 0.63
00:30:38.280 if like b of a logos are so bad kate berland thinks they're a scam they always tell you to
00:30:45.880 check to look closely at the email address that it's sent from because it'll be like that bank of
00:30:51.180 tarica took me a while he was like i'm a small business banker or something what sure well yeah
00:30:58.900 that does sound i mean sorry key question is that your bank bank of america yes okay okay yeah
00:31:06.620 i'm a small business banker okay so look at this and this is why it feels legit he said thank you
00:31:12.940 for taking my call looking forward to connecting this is wild and helping to deepen the relationship
00:31:19.480 with the bank this is bizarre did you recently make a massive deposit no that's the thing so 0.99
00:31:27.380 then he included it says business card right but look at this bank of america logo fuck you're 0.81
00:31:33.220 blurry will you send it to me i need it screenshot and listen it says here like this message any 0.96
00:31:37.800 attachments whatever like it looks pretty real and then i think it is real and then
00:31:42.300 his okay yeah okay it's it's legit because his email address is his name at very closely
00:31:49.520 bfa.com bfa uh-huh b-o-f-a bank o-f-a a bank of a dot com baby i'm gonna pour it to you
00:32:02.960 because i almost gave him everything and i got excited because there is this
00:32:08.080 dot com baby like you know it you love it i feel like it's like jewish or something like i have this
00:32:15.480 like my deep desire to have close relationships like doctors and lawyers like because like to
00:32:21.680 help me and so similarly i'm like i had this flash of like me and my small business opening
00:32:28.500 the relationship this flash of my small business banker and i going out for like yeah once a year
00:32:34.520 we get an obligatory lunch i also like the idea of them being nothing to discuss what really is
00:32:38.800 he going to be your financial planner there's no fucking way i almost wanted to say what's in it 0.56
00:32:43.420 for you brian you're skimming a little off the top like no yeah it's not like i'm some like 0.83
00:32:51.380 huge like yeah bank of america really relies on my account now when i buy expensive things i tell
00:32:58.160 you about it immediately i love that i mean i'm trying to get up the courage to spend money on a
00:33:03.720 trench coat sorry i just panicked i was like where the fuck because i bought the dyson hair dryer i
00:33:09.380 just did it i had to i've had the same hair dryer since i was 22 years old i love how you think you
00:33:14.320 have to give this i know the preamble the preamble of you know how it's a special treat well the word
00:33:20.700 special treat was like big i feel like growing up for me can we eat you know the food can we take
00:33:26.440 it into the den yeah we take it in and eat it in front of the tv as a special treat and it makes
00:33:32.540 perfect sense now it's a way of saying you know this ain't happening all the time it's a way of
00:33:37.120 saying it could be just this once and never again special treat yeah it's a very pleasing set of
00:33:42.320 words who doesn't want to do something as a special treat but wait there's a reason i said
00:33:47.780 it special treats oh the dyson oh the preamble yeah yeah i don't know why i can hear my aunt
00:33:54.140 I can hear my aunt doing this.
00:33:55.480 So I got a blah, blah, blah.
00:33:57.040 Before you think I just buy things that are that cost.
00:34:00.880 My suitcase is the same one I've had for 35 years. 1.00
00:34:03.240 It's caked in human shit. 1.00
00:34:04.820 Yeah. 1.00
00:34:05.220 But anyway, you gasp because you want to talk about the Dyson
00:34:08.120 or you just had a panic about like, where is it?
00:34:10.180 I don't know where it is.
00:34:11.640 I had a slight panic.
00:34:12.920 No, I gasped because I was like, I thought I had two day free shipping. 0.96
00:34:15.780 Where the fuck is it? 0.87
00:34:16.820 But it's going to arrive tomorrow. 0.99
00:34:18.260 Oh, it's not here yet.
00:34:19.780 No.
00:34:20.140 Yeah. 0.99
00:34:20.980 You're Irish.
00:34:21.660 And by the way, I'm thrilled.
00:34:22.580 I mean, look how much hair I have.
00:34:24.140 The time I spend drying my hair.
00:34:26.700 Anyway, you don't need to hear it.
00:34:28.480 No one needs to hear it.
00:34:29.260 Although, wait, to be clear, you dry naturally a lot, right?
00:34:32.720 Or do you only diffuse on every wash day?
00:34:35.060 I do a partial.
00:34:36.600 My favorite is half and half.
00:34:37.680 You let it dry halfway and then you bring in the diffuser?
00:34:39.920 Or you start with the diffuser?
00:34:40.440 Not even halfway.
00:34:41.740 What?
00:34:42.700 You're stunned about the diffuser?
00:34:44.260 No, I said, or you start with the diffuser.
00:34:46.160 Oh, I do a quick towel dry.
00:34:50.400 A lot of people's ears are perking up because we get, we get emails saying, please talk
00:34:54.720 about your curl and wave care.
00:34:57.080 I have a, I have one of those microfiber towels that's supposed to be anti-frizz.
00:35:02.280 So when I get out of the shower, yeah, when I get out of the shower, I wring out my hair
00:35:06.940 upside down.
00:35:08.320 I wrap it in one of those towels.
00:35:10.360 And while I'm doing that, you know, I'll put on some of my face stuff, whatever.
00:35:14.160 And then once a lot of the moisture has been absorbed by the towel, then I go in with the
00:35:18.340 product.
00:35:18.740 then i diffuse for you know five minutes or something and then i usually like to air dry
00:35:24.440 for a while then maybe i'll go back in with the diffuser such a late 90s routine yeah no i said
00:35:31.280 that to be hilarious okay okay like i feel like there was a period where the only innovation we
00:35:36.740 had in in hair care was those goddamn towels the reason i say it's a 90s routine whatever is 0.64
00:35:42.080 because you know the curly i just want to be clear you said ring out you mean you wind it like 0.95
00:35:47.020 you wind it up and then it winds with the thing and it tucks right it doesn't actually winding
00:35:52.680 it up but or is there one of those little buttons or no oh no they hold it up that sounds fun but
00:35:59.040 no yeah it's a loose free form but you're doing the twisting motion right i'm doing the twisting
00:36:06.300 motion like a classic 80s girl gets out of the shower what does her hair look like right
00:36:10.840 completely wrapped in a towel yeah now the curl community in the microfiber and in the special
00:36:17.620 towel yes made for that is it called oh i know i i yeah yeah yes yeah no i'm not dismissing that
00:36:24.160 but are you familiar with plopping yeah you are isn't that where you take like an old towel you
00:36:33.180 take a vintage like leonard skinner shirt and you like well t-shirt is ideal i'm sure you've heard
00:36:39.320 to dry it with a t-shirt instead of a terry cloth you know of course i have and i'm like no i'm gonna
00:36:43.580 wear my shirt that's hysterical they're they're like get a perfectly worn vintage tea well i know
00:36:50.400 the way they like demand that it be you know i have always resented the like get an old blah blah
00:36:56.000 like there's something but the the difference i hate that in that method yeah what it's just
00:37:01.940 funny yeah there is me but like get an old jar get like an old um on these workout videos that
00:37:08.400 i would do they're like hand weights or a couple of soup cans okay if you don't have hand weights
00:37:16.000 in the home because those are always lying around because those are always lying around and also
00:37:19.340 like i find it offensive because they're jumping so far to soup cans like something we've had since 0.98
00:37:26.900 like fucking like what 1862 you know what i mean they're the humblest thing someone could own 0.98
00:37:33.160 they're almost saying okay if you don't have hand weights you're obviously poor 0.99
00:37:36.700 right so what you do hopefully someone donated canned soup to you 0.54
00:37:43.280 in a recent food drive try to name something like you know like that the humblest even a peasant
00:37:52.720 has a has a cream of mushroom in the cabinet yes exactly yeah i'm like well i have neither
00:37:58.840 or whatever right how about a couple organic bottles of olive oil yeah
00:38:03.100 exactly like how dare you and i'm like do you have soup cans that's really what it is do you
00:38:11.100 like you know fitness guru because i'm pretty sure your soup comes jarred from heroin yeah
00:38:16.740 yeah you don't have progresso in there yeah progresso canned soup was like a staple in my
00:38:23.620 father's diet like growing up my dad the progresso chicken noodle soup was like oh yeah all he could
00:38:31.600 cook like my my father i've never seen him so much as cook an egg as they say not so easy to
00:38:37.160 cook an egg yeah well exactly it's the true chef's test isn't it him microwaving and i don't even
00:38:41.980 think it was ever so top he could make toast and microwave soup until he and i remember my mom was
00:38:48.260 out of town once and i was in high school and i was downstairs doing homework and he brought down
00:38:52.960 the soup it's like a real guttural memory of sourdough bread toast with butter on it and a
00:39:00.220 big bowl of progresso chicken noodle soup and i was like it was so shocking well the foreignness
00:39:10.400 of the food coming from him it felt like we're both children i felt like instantly nauseous
00:39:16.220 my father's frailty was presented to me so really so clearly it was like yeah something about it and
00:39:22.080 it was intensely sweet because it was him mothering me right i was like and i mean i think
00:39:29.600 i said on poop before when i was little i called my dad mommy um because it particularly started
00:39:36.540 because my mom went on a trip to paris with her best friend and he took care of me just him and
00:39:40.340 i just started calling him mommy it makes perfect sense also very your needs and then he or you in
00:39:45.420 a way is there you he always was like i liked it well i need mommy so i'm gonna ask for mommy
00:39:52.520 you're mommy now because i need mommy
00:39:55.300 you know what i mean well i remember my father at once like for some reason my mother wasn't there
00:40:03.300 to i don't know begin a school day right it was like so he's seeing us off or whatever and i was
00:40:10.260 young enough where it didn't occur to me to be like well i'll just do my ponytail or whatever
00:40:15.340 i guess like i couldn't put my own hair up in a ponytail at five or something like that i don't
00:40:19.640 so then it was like dad can you put your my hair in a ponytail and i remember like feeling the the
00:40:25.460 sensation of someone who doesn't understand i mean someone who's never made a ponytail
00:40:29.140 yeah oh my god impossible like take a minute with someone else's ponytail never done it really hard
00:40:34.200 yeah that's a different skill what was truly shocking was like the feel it right now the
00:40:40.740 motion of gathering the hair okay even if you gathered it bad so i felt it gathers it and i
00:40:46.800 feel like he hasn't brushed poorly gathered but that's not even the issue this was the shock are
00:40:52.060 you ready so he's got what is to be the ponytail in his hand and normally you grasp that right and
00:40:59.100 that's the hand you have the rubber band around because then you drag the rubber band over right
00:41:03.760 right then you twist pull it back over as many times as needed there was no understanding of
00:41:09.540 the need to well first of all how to get the band over the ponytail like right off the wrist it was
00:41:15.720 like it was in a separate hand you've got a thing of hair in one hand and a rubber band you're going
00:41:20.240 what now and then he's like trying to slide it up the ponytail or something and there's no
00:41:25.640 understanding of of like the twist and the tension confusion did you wear your hair down as a kid
00:41:32.260 it's actually a huge i was gonna say as you're speaking like exclusively and it's continued in
00:41:36.760 my adult life i mean my hair was never put up no right this is this is fascinating maybe that's
00:41:41.620 not fair maybe a couple times my mom put my hair up but no not really it's always been I didn't
00:41:47.560 okay so my hair was never ever down until sixth grade when it became clear that oh if you want
00:41:57.400 to compete in these waters be attractive or whatever yeah wearing your hair down is a thing
00:42:03.040 and the first times I tried to wear my hair down it felt the same as why don't you walk around with
00:42:11.400 something hanging on your face tickling you all the time it felt insane to me it was too much
00:42:17.060 stimulation bouncing around I was like what get it away it's sweet it felt makes sense I can't
00:42:23.460 even I can remember how it felt insane like the hair just resting I felt like what even is this
00:42:29.120 being in a ponytail was just existence and now suddenly there was this I don't know and um it
00:42:37.060 took a while of course you know it's a devastating kind of your femininity you were sort of free 0.90
00:42:41.460 sensuality the full head of hair loose and then similarly or kind of the inverse i feel insane 0.57
00:42:48.360 on the rare occasions my hair is up i feel my personality transformed instantly okay okay we're
00:42:55.220 gonna we gotta go to break we gotta go to break we gotta go to break
00:42:57.540 and we're back we're back can i pivot quickly to something that you can tell me if this is
00:43:09.060 funny or not yes is that a friend of mine gave me when i had covid incredibly sweetly dropped
00:43:18.580 off groceries for for me oh my i didn't ask for it just appeared top shelf too i was truly moved
00:43:24.680 I honestly almost cried.
00:43:25.760 Moved or, I feel this is a ploy and a wiggle their way into your life.
00:43:32.880 This is Ryder Strong and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.
00:43:37.300 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.
00:43:42.340 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune.
00:43:46.180 It was hard to wrap your head around.
00:43:47.520 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.
00:43:50.780 So no, I am not your guru.
00:43:54.560 And back then, I lied to my parents, I lied to police, I lied to everybody.
00:43:59.800 There were years, Ryder, where I could not say your name.
00:44:02.780 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California, interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists, whomever I can, to try to find out what actually happened.
00:44:11.620 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend?
00:44:16.220 They have had this case for 30 years. 0.99
00:44:18.980 I'll teach you sons of b**** to come around here and my wife. Boom, boom. 1.00
00:44:23.260 This is The Red Weather.
00:44:26.460 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:44:33.360 Crook and Chase Nashville chats with the coolest cat in country music.
00:44:37.300 He is edgy. He's fun. He is Chase Matthews.
00:44:40.640 Keith Urban helped make him a global sensation last year, but it's his recent number one hit, Darling, that put Chase on the map
00:44:46.400 and launched a fun and difficult conversation about lovers who cheat and lie.
00:44:51.640 That's why I'm scared to get married.
00:44:52.980 You're giving me trust issues, brother.
00:44:54.540 Crook and Chase Nashville Chats with Chase Matthew.
00:44:56.900 Listen and subscribe on the iHeartRadio app,
00:44:59.720 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
00:45:03.820 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, from The Girlfriends,
00:45:07.340 the number one hit true crime show
00:45:09.660 that puts women right in the center of their own stories.
00:45:13.520 I'm back with more one-off interviews 1.00
00:45:15.920 with some truly kick-ass women on The Girlfriends Spotlight. 1.00
00:45:21.160 I want to introduce you to Sylvia.
00:45:23.360 I'm going to climb this.
00:45:25.760 And then there's Vaisaka.
00:45:27.840 Let's see how we can stop killing and save lives.
00:45:31.960 Leila dared to ask the question.
00:45:34.440 Is badness hereditary?
00:45:36.480 And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.
00:45:38.600 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived,
00:45:41.420 she wouldn't have died on that fatal night.
00:45:44.340 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,
00:45:45.940 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.
00:45:48.820 I'm not too intimidated by her.
00:45:50.560 What are you talking about? 1.00
00:45:53.420 Listen to the Girlfriend Spotlight on the iHeartRadio app, 1.00
00:45:56.880 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:46:03.980 Impressed.
00:46:05.000 I was deeply moved.
00:46:05.900 Okay, listen to this.
00:46:07.300 So one of the things that was dropped off, Levin,
00:46:10.260 like that really nice cookie company, it's a bakery.
00:46:13.380 It started in New York.
00:46:14.940 Levin?
00:46:15.760 Levin?
00:46:16.320 I think it's Levin.
00:46:16.820 Yeah.
00:46:17.800 I think it is a Levin.
00:46:18.820 no i was gonna say levain it's spelled levain you know i you know i freeze around french anyway
00:46:24.180 so good for them they're in stores now and there's like this box of cookies of that brand and i was
00:46:29.940 like wow and that's the fun thing of like someone else i just wouldn't have gotten that for myself
00:46:33.880 not out of like abject horror but just so i ripped into the box ate one of the big oh my god
00:46:41.120 four inch thick ones yeah yeah they're not like wide but they're tall like a little pile like
00:46:47.560 shaped like like like a big rock exactly so i was like yeah i ate one i was like god and then the
00:46:53.480 next day i ate another one i texted her i was like this is the best store-bought cookie i've ever had
00:46:57.840 and she was like i know aren't they amazing so flash forward i see her and i brought up the
00:47:03.760 groceries and how sweet that was chocolate chip walnut chocolate double dark chocolate
00:47:08.680 double dark something i don't know okay loaded chocolate chip because ultimately oatmeal raisin
00:47:14.660 is also they have i didn't have that one it was sublime that calls to me okay i bring up the
00:47:18.180 she says and don't they make the whole house it's it makes the whole house smell so good just having
00:47:23.780 those in the oven i immediately freeze and i don't say anything of course i go completely
00:47:29.940 i'm in shock and i go what so then i privately bury this i come home i open my cupboard where
00:47:36.920 the box of cookies is i examine the box no no no no there's cookie dough it says on the box keep
00:47:43.940 frozen missed that entirely you're supposed to take these and bake them i thought they were
00:47:50.720 you know the best cookie you've ever had first of all let's just say you didn't i was eating it
00:47:55.200 going this is incredible i can't believe this and i was thinking to myself oh that's the best
00:48:00.240 amazing it's like they were this is the best no i know what a raw cookie tastes like i mean come on
00:48:06.720 no they were in my cupboard i was eating them potentially poisoning myself and you didn't even
00:48:13.960 think like you didn't go well now i'm wondering they say keep frozen you didn't go to yourself
00:48:19.020 do you think it could be something like they're cooked three quarters of the way almost like
00:48:22.820 where it's like five minutes to kind of toast them up yeah they were not completely raw i almost want
00:48:27.500 to look it up okay there's no way they were not completely raw but i was like i should say on the
00:48:32.380 thing like bake them here it is baby so excited hang on it's loading you know what they can never
00:48:43.040 take away from ben and jerry's hello what jerry gracia well yeah okay look at this i'm looking
00:48:51.380 oh my god okay so look at this sending it to me you gotta be sending it to me okay i can't see
00:48:55.460 it says in tiny writing simply bake from frozen and then it says keep frozen but barely it's
00:49:02.140 barely need so much more info i'm like very excited by this so i came home and of course like
00:49:08.380 threw them in the trash horrified they've been sitting okay two things two things one i just
00:49:13.760 opened google because i was going to google the cookies and i i see strong visual you got to send
00:49:20.800 it to me did you because i just see it when i open google now there's strong visual temptations
00:49:25.660 to articles have is this new because what do you mean is this new okay when i open google to search
00:49:31.780 something recently i've been getting suckered into reading articles just by opening google
00:49:35.860 and i feel like this is new i mean with these targeted stories okay that must be new like i
00:49:40.820 just open it up and it's luxury tunics caftans and dresses they've got my number that's strange
00:49:47.080 how to train wisteria an article i already read because i googled it last week do you understand
00:49:53.300 they're they're of course they are anyway it's the most uninteresting thing but sorry so i have
00:49:58.140 a huge i have a huge thing here it says our cookies are fully baked just warm them up in
00:50:03.220 the oven then why does it say keep frozen and it says here store in freezer
00:50:07.340 wait so there's a lot of confusing information here 0.94
00:50:12.640 oh no they are fully baked i know okay they are fully baked the why the fuck does it say keep
00:50:20.240 frozen okay so it's just it's a simply baked from frozen so it's simply a concept of
00:50:27.500 i think what what they're doing is they're it's kind of cool actually if it means what i think
00:50:33.380 it means hey i'll buy them again i was blown away by the flavor and i by the way don't know
00:50:37.660 how to pronounce it in my mind i was like levin levin and they used to line up around the block
00:50:43.660 in new york they have a side location and i'm picturing like they make the thing oh no okay
00:50:49.880 you know you're getting this is how i would think of it they bake it to perfection okay
00:50:54.400 it's fresh out of the oven it's ready to go now instead of selling it to someone they instantly
00:51:00.240 freeze it okay they freeze it in its perfect state yeah and now they send that out to you
00:51:06.120 and if you can just pop that in the thing for a couple minutes it will rewarm it will you know
00:51:10.640 what i mean it's an interesting concept it's very smart like it's very smart i have a raging craving
00:51:16.060 to watch shark tank which for a while i watched so much of it and then i moved away oh i'm sure
00:51:20.740 you know this when i cried what about when i saw in new york city like a corcoran sign right
00:51:27.120 barbara because you see them everywhere right yeah corcoran group they're everywhere this
00:51:32.340 familiar thing i've been seeing my whole life as if for the first time i was like
00:51:35.240 wait that's barbara and you cried yes i could almost cry right now
00:51:42.900 i was like i was like like so proud like yeah like because you just accept these characters
00:51:55.140 kind of i know no it's too good to be true it's it's genius it's a genius show okay god it's um
00:52:04.040 yeah god how invested i get where i'm just going when they don't get a deal but i believe in the
00:52:10.960 product or something and i'm like they got the advertisement they got the advertisement they got
00:52:14.380 the advertisement i know it's so comforting yeah i went soft shark tank there was an edible cup
00:52:20.500 company and i bought four of the edible cups there were these like glittery champagne flutes and i
00:52:26.940 got them for my mom just a little kind of fun frivolous like candy kind of like you can they
00:52:31.140 were yeah they're like an edible champagne flute that's fun they took a year to arrive almost maybe
00:52:37.760 nine months and i had an ongoing correspondence and i was like hi where are they and they were
00:52:42.460 like sorry we're like crazy backed up they'll arrive and it was like a christmas i was like
00:52:47.100 gonna get them for christmas and i was like three months in advance i was like i got this
00:52:50.920 and then i said surely must have been offered me some kind of discount they ended i ended up
00:52:55.500 getting them free because they arrived quite literally like nine months or ten months after 0.94
00:52:59.180 i ordered them and one of them was broken no and they were shit of course it was yeah oh my god 0.84
00:53:05.180 well first of all wait i just want to be clear you ordered it after seeing it on shark tank so 0.92
00:53:09.260 technically after it aired people were probably freaking out no i am not oh you think i'm going
00:53:15.920 that way i am not i am not fairness supply was probably an issue okay no i'm going wait i guess
00:53:24.340 if you order no by the time that thing airs they're in business if they got a deal and they
00:53:29.360 did oh yeah right right they got a deal so i'm like did mr wonderful not help you scale up
00:53:35.720 appropriately right i know it's a little scary the whole thing was that you're getting this
00:53:39.740 don't you you know what i'm not a fan of when they revisit um previous businesses in yet another ad
00:53:46.460 you mean they see their success where that where are they now we go let's check yeah the where are
00:53:50.620 they now i like that you don't like that of a thing well i'm like i didn't i don't remember
00:53:54.540 this one you know maybe that's my problem i don't even have to remember them i'm just like wow
00:53:59.280 look at them go
00:54:00.900 those irritate me because those are just
00:54:03.860 look at them go
00:54:05.100 I also don't appreciate how they
00:54:07.260 love to say that's a product not a
00:54:09.560 business when they
00:54:11.580 give deals to products all the time on there
00:54:13.700 you know what I'm talking about
00:54:16.140 you have a product not a business
00:54:18.220 I can't quite recall that no
00:54:21.140 so odd
00:54:22.360 I've watched a ton of it too
00:54:24.460 that's just really interesting
00:54:25.940 I know I had the urge to lie
00:54:29.160 but it's just not no i'm thrilled you didn't well i could almost see it you know that would slip
00:54:37.160 you that wouldn't get caught in your web right yeah that's not my that's not food for me where
00:54:42.600 it would get caught where it would get caught exactly in my web yeah that's big for you it's
00:54:47.660 conceptual abstract and like a principle and i'm like wait wait wait slow down let me let's see
00:54:54.520 just like lawyerly like thing that i enjoy like yeah it slipped right through me you should have
00:55:00.940 been a lawyer you should be a lawyer do you remember that sort of thing did you ever have
00:55:04.360 that as a kid no what's that if you like defend yourself in any in any oh yeah like little lawyer
00:55:10.860 we got here i guess have you ever had someone sorry the principles of justice are relevant on
00:55:15.380 the playground as they are anywhere i remember i had an i was like 21 i don't know i held an
00:55:22.760 ex-boyfriends no no no his sister's baby and his mother went you've got the touch oh no isn't that
00:55:32.200 and I think about you I was 21 maybe 22 which is an age but I was like to me I'm like you're
00:55:38.080 suggesting I have a teenage pregnancy you know I mean like my rage in retrospect no and also even
00:55:46.100 like you should do it now it's there's still something even about the implication you know
00:55:51.060 that you've got the touch like that you're a mother that's what the implication make a good
00:55:54.620 mother yeah you or just you are a mother is the implication you have it in you whether you want
00:55:59.940 it or not i mean which is like an interesting question i've always thought it's like a police
00:56:05.400 officer watching you obediently obey a traffic law signal imagine myself abandoned on a road
00:56:11.960 there's a cop and then i just pull up and i stop at the stoplight i don't go through the yellow and
00:56:18.140 there's no one we're like a desolate town and i just i still come to a halt obediently and it's
00:56:23.560 like a cop sees me and kind of is like good girl yeah no wait are you saying you find that erotic
00:56:31.700 like you love that no i don't love it no i have anger no no it's that moment it's the state
00:56:37.140 recognizing you it's like being recognized as a subject of the state and similarly it's like
00:56:42.060 being recognized as like that against your will almost there you are even if they were mommy there
00:56:46.800 she is like yeah yeah like you you can't help yourself girl mommy good girl exactly your teat
00:56:52.380 just lactated on on yeah yeah right where you should be and then by them saying that they've
00:56:58.480 made it their your body's agreeing with the state this is a imaginary scenario no it's true if they
00:57:03.760 point to your body yeah being holding the baby i don't know it's it actually the tradition of
00:57:12.720 okay everyone wants to hold the baby i always i don't know there's it's fraught it's fraught
00:57:16.980 yeah i absolutely i mean it depends on feel like it's always fraught if you're nine years old i'm
00:57:24.160 also like does the baby want that i mean i don't think so 10 smells in rapid succession yeah being
00:57:30.600 passed around like that i'm just a little also fresh out of the womb i don't know like oh fresh
00:57:37.240 out of the womb keep it in a like isn't what is it now they're all this recognition on the fourth
00:57:43.260 trimester right for both parties like well they're like is there a thing what is this because this
00:57:49.140 is coming to mind and i don't know why something about the fetus or the baby i guess in this model
00:57:54.300 remains a fetus until it's six years old or whatever but it's like something we're supposed
00:57:58.260 to crawl up you is that did i oh yeah yeah yeah what is that thing that's a thing i forgot what
00:58:03.640 it's called but the idea is that the baby comes out and then you leave it and that what the baby
00:58:09.580 will do is get on your stomach and crawl up like ostensibly your happy trail like that's like the 0.98
00:58:16.800 happy trail is it's a line of hair to be like this way baby up to your tits yeah wait the happy trail 0.98
00:58:23.920 is is a is a is a pathway for the baby yep it's like a scent or something something like mother's 0.96
00:58:30.500 okay it's pretty wild and that it will the baby will crawl up and latch on yeah right and so and
00:58:36.900 so they believe in the wild an animal would right right now this is big because a couple things if
00:58:44.620 that's true it's pretty interesting and you have to wonder if there's some benefit right i mean
00:58:52.460 this is what the new age sort of people would argue right you know oh it's healthier if you're
00:58:59.880 doing it the way it was would have unfolded in the wild right like that idea well no actually we
00:59:04.720 have a modern medicine now and it's actually you know what i mean yeah then you're climbing 0.97
00:59:07.580 question yeah yeah but you have to wonder you know i mean i don't want to sound like a fucking 0.98
00:59:15.300 whatever but i'm like if that is real you know are we all chronically fucked because 0.96
00:59:22.620 like our first chance at at agency was robbed from us like yeah when you've had zero experiences 0.85
00:59:31.040 on earth right you've had zero experiences on earth and your first day you know out of the 0.85
00:59:37.540 womb you're gonna learn some shit i mean you have to yeah i guess i'd like to know about how babies 0.96
00:59:44.560 were born for early man i know i think i just you're just kind of out there screaming up against 0.99
00:59:52.920 a tree screaming and squatting i have to say that there was some fabulous stuff did you watch
00:59:58.720 inventing anna no and you know what's really funny did you watch yellow jackets one did you
01:00:03.320 watch yellow jackets one because that's your first thing okay inventing anna i thought was about anna
01:00:08.200 winter i heard the name and i was like huh yeah of course it's that and then somebody was talking
01:00:13.880 about it to me and i pretended to know what it was and then as they were talking i went
01:00:17.900 this is my anna went to her i was like this is anyway quietly not like a worthy being wrong to
01:00:25.440 oneself no i loved it because quietly like quietly recognizing oneself as wrong and deciding whether
01:00:33.360 or not you're gonna need to reveal it yeah yeah it's hell why is interpersonal interaction
01:00:41.640 hell why is it so loaded that's why it feels so good when you have that ease with someone
01:00:48.420 that's why you know it's the best right even then things come up it's always coming up there's
01:00:53.460 always material it's like the shock of being naked and warm i mean like as a metaphor you're
01:01:00.740 like wait how am i naked and i'm warm it's like how am i exposed to another person and safe yeah
01:01:09.020 it's beautiful i love that i think it's a great way to end naked and warm naked and warm is a
01:01:15.120 great title yeah i like it okay so i guess to wrap up i was gonna say i wonder if we let go
01:01:23.560 of the old and this can be a notion that we we save uh we're gonna have to throw to break but
01:01:29.320 i was gonna say i wonder if we really need to throw to break or could just cut out we don't
01:01:36.240 have to i just realized no just a moment he goes hey uh folks sorry sorry sorry to break in here i
01:01:44.080 just um we are gonna have to go to the old break it's like what you're totally right let's try it
01:01:49.840 let's try it with an app for an episode i think yeah i think our people don't need it well let's
01:01:54.540 do it next episode because they're only going to hear this at the end i think it's more fun to give
01:01:59.220 them a little warning okay weirdly and then and then what it'll be a you know it'll be a challenge
01:02:05.060 to the listener okay you know whether they can hold their interior strong and safe in the
01:02:10.900 disorienting moments of ad suddenly happening wait isn't there a stinger anyway people can vote for
01:02:16.860 it what's a stinger we could still have the audio stinger what the hell's a stinger you know
01:02:20.760 you mean the theme a stinger is like a little yeah no no it doesn't just go straight yeah so
01:02:27.540 it's not even like yeah i think we're good all right oh was it you that i was screaming laughing
01:02:33.720 what the term chest knee with who was i laughing about the term chest knee like dying laughing
01:02:42.100 wait no you mean like is that chest acne yeah is that chest acne like acne chest knee is is a reach 0.93
01:02:50.180 chest needs a reach looks like i have like gazongas today look at that damn i wish no i'm 0.99
01:02:57.820 just laughing at gazongas i need a good push-up bra i'm sick of this shit okay a classic miracle 0.99
01:03:04.060 i'm sick of this shit wait is chest knee real or did you make it up no no chest knee's real 0.99
01:03:09.600 it's a phrase i'm like i mean it wasn't me but i think it was my i think it was my girl i think 0.99
01:03:15.520 it was my girlfriend i i don't love that now just knee means acne like now we just add knee to
01:03:21.740 anything yeah back knee made sense arguably back knee there was a touch of wit back acne back knee
01:03:30.860 yeah chest acne chest knee there's a fashion brand named acne i know and you would think
01:03:39.600 that you would think it couldn't mean something else but it does now
01:03:43.760 that's exactly they did the impossible words can be ripped from all association
01:03:52.180 Okay, we have to go.
01:03:53.640 All right.
01:03:54.220 All right.
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