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00:02:39.140 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:40.640 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

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00:02:53.620 Today's topic, loosely speaking, Hungarian down, desert island, banana split. 0.96

00:03:02.300 I was just saying to Jacqueline and she said, save it for the pod, which makes sense. 0.84

00:03:06.700 But I was in the middle of speaking very romantically about the keto.

00:03:11.180 Again, I'm not keto, but the keto mocha frappe I had yesterday.

00:03:14.840 Were they calling it a frappe?

00:03:16.560 Yeah.

00:03:17.260 Because that's like the Italian, right?

00:03:18.680 that means like the beaten ice drink exactly the frappuccino isn't it starbucksian

00:03:26.600 yeah yeah but the frappe it's this bakery here in la called the sweet laurel but i just can't

00:03:34.040 believe the generosity the what i just looked it up the recipes online and that's how you that's

00:03:39.580 how you nurture a community are they the ones with the keto cake because i think that recipe

00:03:43.780 he's online too yeah and i appreciate them not hoarding a recipe i would have i would hoard it 0.96

00:03:51.000 if i had yeah the keys to that flavor you're not getting it you're paying bitch and so it's online

00:03:58.060 and i got really excited for us for piñas because let me just i'm going to quickly say the recipe 0.60

00:04:02.740 and then we'll move on half so shot of espresso or a little drip coffee easy enough half cup

00:04:09.360 coconut cream, half cup coconut milk or almond milk, two cups crushed ice, a tablespoon of

00:04:17.920 Lakanto monk fruit sweetener, a teaspoon of the cow powder. Damn. Now, can you believe it? Did 0.99

00:04:25.980 yours sink into melted? Did it separate and turn into water fast? Thank you. So here's how I tell

00:04:34.460 you the truth yeah okay no that's good because i have news i mean i've because i know as someone

00:04:40.060 who loves a frappuccino okay i even went through a period where i was getting whatever the coffee

00:04:46.920 frap one because that's like seemingly the most austere i was more of a i was more of a coffee

00:04:52.760 bean ice blended and is that it's it's the same family yeah okay that's virtually but the world's

00:05:01.380 part culturally culturally yeah i mean the cb uh lt or something the coffee bean and tea leaf cbtl

00:05:09.900 yeah well pete's pete's coffee wait a minute i'm sorry i'm having a complete breakdown between

00:05:15.160 pete's and coffee bean separation they are different okay jesus yeah coffee bean for the

00:05:19.800 ice blended pete's coffee for everything else you know what i don't love about coffee bean

00:05:25.660 and tea or whatever is that they have their tiny little round ice cubes which are designed cheap

00:05:32.400 to melt faster more surface area of the cube they melt faster so it's like putting crushed ice we

00:05:40.120 don't want that but but so so i went through a period where i would get the coffee frap okay

00:05:45.020 and i would get no whip okay this was like my like austere frap okay no whip whatever and then i would

00:05:51.800 have them add an extra shot of espresso naturally now this is then are you ready for this then i'd

00:05:58.420 so i'd say a grande frappuccino coffee frappuccino extra shot of espresso in a venti cup okay because

00:06:05.180 more ice you add that extra shot of espresso it creates like more volume like more frothy volume

00:06:12.320 than just the amount of the espresso the this the sum is greater than the sum of the parts or

00:06:18.060 whatever here okay and so if you just get that grande there's going to be leftover and then

00:06:23.680 you're not getting all of your espresso you know it's so hard i actually don't know all right i'm

00:06:28.780 actually really trying to can't hear it i'm starting to dissolve into geometry all this is

00:06:34.420 this hey can i have a hey can i have a frappuccino grande frappuccino no no i'm trying to give you

00:06:39.840 the just the oh sorry frappuccino okay grande they take a grande cup they put all the ingredients in

00:06:45.900 it right there's still some space at the top got it i go throw an extra shot in there they throw 0.99

00:06:50.760 the shot in there okay still we're we're still just in a grande cup yeah throw that shit in the 0.97

00:06:56.020 blender it blows up so much bigger oh i see i see due to the extra shot that it now you gotta 0.90

00:07:02.260 actually and they're almost like they're almost like they're like some of them are like why the

00:07:07.600 hell would i do that and then it's like well you'll see because i want everything i ordered

00:07:11.740 oh wow so then i start researching my own i go through phases i'm in a blender phase right now

00:07:17.400 okay where the blender comes out and i decide it deserves a permanent place on my

00:07:20.760 counter and then other times it goes away but obviously the pina do you have a vitamix

00:07:26.060 no i have a ninja i still have never actually good for you gone vitamix i've never

00:07:31.460 plunked it down i i got a vitamix i believe we've talked about it early episodes of poo

00:07:36.900 got at a Costco great deal and then I plunge into the depths of hell researching like ideas about

00:07:43.640 how the Vitamix like slowly chips that you're consuming massive amounts of microplastics that

00:07:48.960 like the blades are gently chipping away and that you're just eating edge at the plastic edges

00:07:53.540 plastic for 400 years yeah and that you're just like eating pure hell and so that shot me in my

00:07:59.100 tracks I continue to use it for my life and I don't think about it but of course every now and

00:08:04.560 then I go am I consuming a plastic smoothie but what are you gonna do doesn't Vitamix have ones

00:08:11.600 that are glass or that heavy ass I don't think so there's a certain it's it's not I mean it's

00:08:18.040 certainly I don't know if they would describe it as plastic whatever it is but they have steel

00:08:22.960 blenders which that excites me oh they do there must be some little company in Maine

00:08:30.540 churning out steel blenders oh steel blender by vitamix no no no no oh okay sorry let me just

00:08:40.160 look really quick right the people that are afraid of the microplastics go to the steel blender

00:08:44.420 i've never seen a steel blender in someone's home i feel like i've seen heavy like glass

00:08:50.760 like no stainless steel jar for vitamix blenders oh here i am thinking i know anything

00:08:59.580 they do not want a glass to shatter vitamix stainless steel container okay well good for

00:09:05.840 vitamix okay that could be huge drop it in the chat okay moving off blenders wait no but sorry

00:09:12.680 your frappuccino so in so yeah i like pina coladas i yeah i was determined to make frappuccinos as

00:09:21.100 part of my life and not based on the syrup that is the base of even their most and i'll say it

00:09:28.120 again folks austere version of frappuccino yeah and you can act like you're doing it you could 0.94

00:09:35.360 think you're doing it with the blended but then the way it sinks and separates fuck it's exhausting

00:09:39.960 and there are ingredients thickeners sort of so to speak okay what are the ones i've used i literally

00:09:46.060 can't remember any of them right now it's not guar gum but it's something like yeah it's almost like 0.90

00:09:50.260 uh fuck they're in my they're in my cabinet that's cool and you stick them in you just you 0.70

00:09:56.140 got to be very careful that it blooms you know you don't want it to be a clump yeah right to 0.99

00:10:00.520 gradually it's it's delicate work but if you can get it in there so you're you've been doing that

00:10:06.220 for the piñas and it's working actually no i have to say i'm actually stunned to say that the piñas

00:10:11.340 have not seemed to require that there hasn't been any real separation occurring yes okay this is

00:10:18.000 good news because again i loved my frappe but i was like okay this is not texture wise a frappuccino

00:10:25.000 Well, it's hysterical because singing the praises of it, can you believe the recipes online, etc. Frozen drinks. I know. I can't get enough. They're so good. It really is fun. I know. Remember that movie where the huge plot point or sort of thread, I feel like Bradley Cooper was in it.

00:10:44.400 and about frozen drinks no sorry and a big plot point was like about like wanting to be there when

00:10:51.580 my baby like tastes ice cream for the first time or something and then like i don't know what

00:10:56.200 happens at one time i don't recall that sounds like something that sounds like a bradley cooper

00:11:00.700 character's concern and um it might not have been bradley cooper actually you know it might have

00:11:07.640 been um little dove what's little dove little goose gossamer ryan gossamer ryan gossling yeah

00:11:16.380 yeah that's it craving drive i gotta rewatch drive and i keep going could it have been drive

00:11:21.520 no no i know every word i got nothing i'm just screaming about the idea of a baby first tasting

00:11:26.940 ice cream and like that they like universally just go nuts for it i think it'd be disappointing i

00:11:31.860 think the baby would be really reactive to the cold and that would be no but that's the thing

00:11:36.560 apparently it's not apparently that's what's so cute they love like i saw recently i said then i

00:11:41.220 saw a video on instagram of someone like like a baby trying something like that and the baby's

00:11:45.400 just smiling ear to ear that's cute it's nice because i guess what i like about it is it reveals

00:11:52.380 that it's a human invention worth something because if a baby likes it and it doesn't exist

00:11:58.980 in nature we've done something good yeah it's ice cream doesn't exist in nature let's take a minute

00:12:05.140 with that folks we've created a lot we've created some things that don't exist in nature that

00:12:09.800 have brought a lot of pleasure i am gonna pivot and say i got a facial yesterday for the first

00:12:16.820 time in ages that's a microcurrent felt great and now i'm a little curious about this procedure

00:12:22.680 morpheus 8 have you heard about this have we talked about this well no it's just that name i know it's

00:12:28.740 so dramatic but what it is is it's micro needling which i've never done combined with a certain kind

00:12:35.780 of light frequency and my facialist who of course i really trust she was like there might be something

00:12:42.240 there she's like if you're gonna micro needle go for that don't just do the micro needling alone

00:12:46.460 get the rate the frequency she said it would take three months to really see results and she said a

00:12:51.620 lot of people she goes a lot of people look good right after getting it because of some of the

00:12:54.920 swelling well that's what i was gonna say yeah but she said three months after seeing the plumped

00:13:00.380 up post treatment okay thing versus what they came in on with the dust of the day and the wrinkles of

00:13:07.520 the day it's like yeah someone washed your face covered you in product and beat you like yeah

00:13:13.620 your face is gonna look pink and yeah your face is gonna look whatever yeah the blood's rushing

00:13:19.860 to the skin and it's gonna look more i don't know i just resent that at times i felt really

00:13:24.900 i felt euphoric no i understand but i really did feel euphoric after getting a facial and then

00:13:31.140 i was thinking about getting slipping into the you know a sauna blanket and she was like you

00:13:36.380 have to dry brush first not wet brush dry brush wet brush she said meaning like wet you know

00:13:44.920 don't try to do it after you wet skin yeah or in the shower you dry brush and then get in the sauna

00:13:51.620 yep and she said put on oil on your face to put a serum or oil on and it'll soak right in 1.00

00:13:58.260 hyperspeed during the sauna because the pores would be so open we should wash your face so 0.97

00:14:03.400 that it's wash your face so it's completely clean and then put on a serum and get in the

00:14:07.980 soda blanket okay i actually have been getting in my heat healer blanket quite a bit in the last

00:14:13.820 couple days because as you know i've had a headache for like a week oh god actually i was

00:14:17.940 gonna say i hadn't checked in on you today about that a little better today actually that's hell

00:14:22.760 it's like my headache has famously been called a perfect storm by many there's something about 0.69

00:14:29.240 people talking about their own shit have you ever seen i'm sure i brought this up but like 0.95

00:14:32.860 people being like i am notoriously whatever the thing is yeah oh are you are people talking 0.99

00:14:40.140 through the night about how you are notoriously like late for lunch i don't know yeah i feel like

00:14:45.720 i i feel like i do that i also feel and i have to slap myself across the face i'm can you tell

00:14:51.460 how tired i am talk to me register does it register you're a little blurry so it's hard to say 0.98

00:14:56.540 fuck you're always a little blurry for me it sucks really yeah like pixelated like i have to see your 0.99

00:15:03.200 expressions i have to clock them through silhouette that's hell we have to remedy that and basic 0.99

00:15:08.040 shapes i i it's not exciting at all it's just that i woke up between maybe the hours of one

00:15:13.040 in 2 30 and couldn't sleep and when that happens to me it's just i'm wrecked oh really waking up

00:15:18.520 in the night is quite rare for me unless i've fallen asleep in front of the tv and some gunshots

00:15:23.460 go off and the transfer the dreaded transfer oh transfer to bed transferring is so hard

00:15:28.620 oh my god but there's also an argument to be made for the transfer because sometimes

00:15:33.440 you dread it and you're like no let me stay here let me stay here but when you actually find the

00:15:39.800 courage to transfer and you get in the bed the second falling asleep you've earned it there's

00:15:48.800 something infinitely more pleasurable oh totally because you're like i did it i surpassed do you

00:15:57.080 love because i do taking off my socks oh to get into bed or on the couch or at home at all okay

00:16:05.420 yeah the moment when you realize you have socks on and they could be off now some would say this

00:16:09.700 about the brassiere yeah yeah i want to talk about the sock actually right now i have full

00:16:17.140 i have my indoor sneakers on that i use to do my tracy anderson workouts and these are the ones i

00:16:22.060 refuse to take outside you have to have an indoor shoe i always like start with that and then i like 0.54

00:16:26.960 fuck it and then i'm like i'll clean it and then whatever but like right now knowing like oh i have 0.66

00:16:31.380 shoes on i just took them off but then here's the thing how do you take your socks off let's say 0.99

00:16:35.780 you're lying on the couch on your side because i have a very specific way take it off with the foot

00:16:38.800 that's how you do it i if i'm on the couch and i want to take my socks off like you're lying on

00:16:44.760 your side on the couch nice and cozy like this oh okay yeah i might grab with the hand but it's

00:16:50.940 also fun to push them off with the feet okay that's what i want to talk about okay okay that's

00:16:56.480 what i'm here for it is the greatest sensation in the world so what i do and i assume this is

00:17:01.100 common try to feel it my big toe of like my right foot hooks on to the top of the sock the other

00:17:07.140 foot hooks onto the ink to the top part yeah whatever wherever the sock is yeah okay and then

00:17:13.800 pushes it down again it gets it off and just knowing and then one is off and then you hook

00:17:20.380 with the toe now you're hooking now you're hooking with a naked toe so it's more agile

00:17:27.300 yeah totally the lack of lack of barrier to state the absolute obvious but just letting the sock

00:17:35.960 fly that's what people who don't live in a messy capacity don't understand it's like the thrill of

00:17:43.980 discarding the sock randomly on the floor in a spot that will require it to be purposefully

00:17:50.180 picked up later that's fine as its own event like some would take off the sock and immediately

00:17:54.640 deposit it in a hamper like i can't even imagine like going upstairs no it's just it's a loose

00:18:02.880 living I guess some people wouldn't just randomly be in socks that they don't feel like being on

00:18:08.500 they've gone up and they've changed into loungewear I don't know everyone I always assume

00:18:13.280 other people live more consciously in that way I love night socks I love a sock that has not

00:18:19.260 touched a shoe or the ground to get into just to get into bed or just to be you know snuggling on

00:18:27.820 the couch i do not appreciate when i have been messy or not vacuumed and as a result this the

00:18:35.620 sock is like a mop for dust it's hell no you have like you're like oh cool it picked up a hair and

00:18:42.680 a little piece of tape from the ground the the floors being clean has really has new importance

00:18:49.040 to me in my life but night socks do you ever sleep in socks oh wow it has to be a sock that

00:18:57.800 but it has to be a sock that hasn't touched a fresh sock, but still you'd rather be in bed

00:19:01.700 with a sock to me. Like to me, that's kind of hell. Sometimes I rip them off in the night and

00:19:06.120 I want to know. I know sometimes it feels like strong, like strangulation. Sometimes it feels

00:19:10.900 really claustrophobic sometimes. Well, you'll remember what it was said a month, two months

00:19:16.240 ago when my heat wasn't working and I was sleeping with a hot water bottle. Sad. But then I was

00:19:21.240 wearing the socks because it has been so cold here in Los Angeles the last few days. Oh yeah.

00:19:27.180 so sleeping in a sock but then often what happens is i'll bundle up get in bed and then in the night

00:19:31.480 wake up rip off all my clothes i'll wake up naked oh and you don't even remember that sometimes

00:19:35.460 naked just with socks and that's fun i remember discovering that a girl i was friends with growing

00:19:40.300 up like sleeping over at her house like that she slept in a long sleeve shirt tucked into a pair 0.99

00:19:46.360 of sweatpants that's horrible and to me the idea of tucking tucked in tucking for the angels yeah

00:19:53.240 yeah tucking it tucking in actually let's talk about tucking in in general okay okay yeah

00:19:59.920 tucking in when alone when unobserved right now even just like i'm home and my pants i undid my

00:20:07.920 pants of course to me i find myself i can barely pull it off in public it's hell i found myself

00:20:15.600 recently shocked i was lounging on the couch in jeans with a belt fully i was fully tucked in

00:20:22.460 tucked up like a television character yeah yes like in a romantic comedy I realized that I was

00:20:30.460 like this is perverse I've been sitting here for 40 minutes absolutely as though a television

00:20:35.580 studio audience were watching me yeah reading on the couch and that is the thing behaving as

00:20:40.440 though you're being watched can really help you get things done oh my god I applied this week

00:20:45.940 I was gonna tell you I so I was thinking as I was doing one of my workout videos one of

00:20:52.280 Tracy's lives I was thinking about how you do that thing you know when you're cooking whatever

00:20:58.200 like you're narrating a cooking show and I was feeling like I was very like struggling through

00:21:02.280 whatever this this particular workout and I was like you know what I'm gonna try this I'm gonna

00:21:06.480 try something okay and I decided to pretend I was the exercise instructor oh yeah classic now as we

00:21:13.340 know Tracy's workouts there isn't verbal instruction during the thing anyway blah blah blah but I was

00:21:20.140 pretending now here's the key identifying as the instructor who had a bunch of people in this class

00:21:26.400 okay behind me who i had to motivate and it's like and it just changed everything and it honestly

00:21:32.100 goes back to the prison experiments okay sorry you ready like how being in a role affects you

00:21:36.660 so when i'm i know doing the moves that the trainer's presenting and i'm doing them i am

00:21:40.880 aware that i am not the boss that i am trying to live up to the person above me's orders and that

00:21:46.160 can become spiritually exhausting so yeah i was like let me try something and so i was literally

00:21:50.700 like come on okay does tracy do that never no never there's no speech during wow there's only

00:22:04.400 music so so not even no no no no literally zero and that's why i usually listen to my own music

00:22:09.120 and just visually watch the cues the instruction is in a separate breakdown video where it's you

00:22:14.320 go through it and you analyze the moves and whatever so normally i'm silent during it too

00:22:18.100 obviously but i'm like i'm like come on okay i'm like come on come on and then i was like and then

00:22:22.740 i was like it was time to put we switch from the the 1.5 to the three point the three three pound

00:22:28.160 hand weights or whatever i'm like or the ankle weights i'm like sorry we switch to the ankle

00:22:32.640 weights i go like all right ladies i said ladies like oh like it's like the 90s like no it works

00:22:38.780 like i was like okay ladies second set of ankle weights you know what that means we're going into

00:22:42.880 the final stay with me you can do it and then i was like literally i was like yeah you feel that

00:22:47.360 good that's what you want to feel like i don't know it's like ridiculous but even just come on

00:22:51.200 come on okay like and it worked it was incredible and i was like and that's where i was like then i

00:22:57.340 started thinking about the prison experiments okay and i was like it's disturbing that your

00:23:00.860 own interior emotions are affected instantly yeah instantly affected as though some part of me

00:23:08.160 was experiencing myself as like a soldier in a boot camp resenting the authority of

00:23:13.520 the person barking orders when of course i'm choosing to be here yeah we want to fall into

00:23:17.980 certain roles yeah i've done that with like how i sometimes if i'm oh it just reminded me i have to

00:23:23.720 turn over my laundry but folding laundry is something i dread as we all do and sometimes

00:23:28.260 i'll almost slip into like a 50s housewife monologue yes to help me do it oh that's good

00:23:33.220 and I'll be like, I'll be like, well, your father's late again or whatever. Yeah. Or being like,

00:23:39.260 what's another one I'll do. We've talked about this with skincare. I love narrating. I really

00:23:44.340 need to start with that. And I'm putting on this. Narration is key. And with cooking, it's very

00:23:50.200 helpful. Oh, we got to have a break. This is Ryder Strong and I have a new podcast called

00:23:57.980 the red weather it was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea in 1995 my neighbor

00:24:06.180 and a trainer disappeared from a commune it was hard to wrap your head around it was

00:24:09.980 nature and trees and praying and drugs no i am not your guru and back then i lied to my parents

00:24:19.460 i lied to police i lied to everybody there were years right where i could not say your name i've

00:24:25.240 decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California, interview my friends, family, talk

00:24:29.240 to police, journalists, whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened. Isn't it a little

00:24:34.540 bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend? They have

00:24:38.800 had this case for 30 years. I'll teach you sons of to come around here and my wife. Boom, boom.

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00:24:55.240 The more you listen to your kids, the closer you'll be.

00:24:59.560 So we asked kids, what do you want your parents to hear?

00:25:03.560 I feel sometimes that I'm not listened to.

00:25:05.840 I would just want you to listen to me more often and evaluate situations with me and lead me towards success.

00:25:12.580 Listening is a form of love.

00:25:14.800 Find resources to help you support your kids and their emotional well-being at SoundItOutTogether.org.

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00:25:29.680 He is edgy.

00:25:30.500 He's fun.

00:25:31.520 He is Chase Matthews.

00:25:33.000 Keith Urban helped make him a global sensation last year,

00:25:35.740 but it's his recent number one hit darling that put Chase on the map

00:25:38.740 and launched a fun and difficult conversation about lovers who cheat and lie.

00:25:44.000 That's why I'm scared to get married.

00:25:45.360 You're giving me trust issues, brother.

00:25:46.900 Crook and Chase Nashville chats with Chase Matthews.

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00:25:51.780 apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts hello it's me anna sinfield from the girlfriends

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00:26:20.920 how we can stop killing and save lives.

00:26:24.320 Leila dared to ask the question.

00:26:26.820 Is badness hereditary?

00:26:28.840 And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.

00:26:30.960 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived,

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00:26:41.460 I'm not too intimidated by her.

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00:27:30.600 I saw something that once again leads me desperate for brain imaging.

00:27:34.840 Okay.

00:27:35.100 And I'm like, but I cannot go through the whole thing.

00:27:39.320 It's too much.

00:27:39.900 But the Amen Clinic, this guy, Daniel Amen or whatever his name is.

00:27:44.040 Okay.

00:27:44.940 And I go through, he's the one that we were going to talk about ADD.

00:27:47.920 and he's the one I told you he's the one that has the five different styles of ADD based on brain

00:27:52.860 imaging there's like ring of fire which is like you see the where the parts of the brain that are

00:27:58.560 lighting up and the different kinds of effects they have and so his whole thing I just got served

00:28:04.020 up an article from him again and it was about different brain types and basically like what

00:28:10.620 different brains what makes different types of brains happy essentially and and they were not 0.58

00:28:17.760 shit I've heard before they were kind of fresh like it was like these people are more sensitive 0.76

00:28:22.060 to and they like refer to like happiness stealers like large crowds and blah blah blah are happiness 0.95

00:28:28.440 stealers for people with this type of brain there was another one that was literally like

00:28:32.620 this type of brain the person feels happy when they're in charge like isn't that amazing and

00:28:40.100 that's like I've never heard anyone talk about that not on a brain science level and so I'm like

00:28:43.940 No, that makes complete sense that, that of course we know nothing.

00:28:48.620 We know nothing.

00:28:50.220 It's so, we have no, I want the brain scan and I want it now.

00:28:54.800 There's no imagination.

00:28:56.080 You're reminding me about just really quickly about fulfilling a certain role.

00:29:00.440 Why quickly?

00:29:01.900 I want it long.

00:29:04.000 Give it to me long.

00:29:05.780 Thank you.

00:29:06.940 I was getting an MRI for a tailbone issue I had a while ago.

00:29:11.160 There was a hairline fracture on my tailbone.

00:29:12.900 And we later found out that I did not sustain through an injury.

00:29:16.080 It was a great mystery.

00:29:17.500 I was in a lot of pain for nine months.

00:29:18.920 It wasn't that night that you were dancing.

00:29:21.240 Yeah.

00:29:21.560 And then I traced it back to a night when I was pounding the pavement, dancing hard 0.97

00:29:26.000 and shitty boots. 0.96

00:29:26.880 And I think that's what did it. 0.99

00:29:28.600 Anyway, went into the MRI machine.

00:29:30.240 I was nervous, not like very nervous, but just didn't want to be there a little claustrophobic

00:29:35.180 or whatever.

00:29:36.700 And when I was in the MRI machine, I was imagining, I was like, you have to be strong for your

00:29:41.260 daughter.

00:29:41.540 i was like oh you're gonna have to pick her up from school at 3 30 i know that's a you know if

00:29:46.920 you have to be strong it's like seeing myself as i'm gonna have to care for my kid and pick her up 0.71

00:29:56.000 from school i was able to get through the mri i i think this like sibling order shit is just one 0.92

00:30:02.720 way that you know why that shit is relevant i was watching medium a fave show of mine that's what i 0.97

00:30:09.260 watch late in the night when i just put it on and you know there's the older sister and the younger 0.96

00:30:13.220 sister and i'm just watching the older sister just by virtue of being 11 and the younger sister's 0.97

00:30:17.340 seven she's constantly explaining shit to her telling her what's what in this world i didn't 0.59

00:30:21.820 have that yeah yeah but unless you had a younger sibling you're you were never in that role as a 0.96

00:30:27.540 kid right unless what's so strange unless you have like a little baby doll as we get so i was also

00:30:34.320 So I mimicked that role of I'm a mother.

00:30:40.400 Absolutely.

00:30:41.080 Which is strange.

00:30:42.280 It's interesting because I'm like watching this girl and it's just the character on the show, but she's constantly in the role of knowing something the younger one does and explaining how almost the world works.

00:30:52.560 Responding to a child's instincts.

00:30:55.080 Well, no, that's not how it works.

00:30:56.260 That's a way of thinking like it's going to get in you.

00:30:59.680 I'm having a fear.

00:31:01.520 Give it to me.

00:31:02.260 I'm having a fear that like, do I have like long COVID? I'm so tired. Why? I've been so tired. I canceled dinner plans last night. I was too tired. A little disturbed. Well, help me. Yeah, no. Well, there's a couple of things. One, let's just say worst nightmare. Okay. You're a long haul. You're a long haul girl. Yeah. Okay. First of all, one, you and how many Americans? Let's just start with.

00:31:29.340 so let's just say it's you and half of the people a bushel and a pack yeah okay and technically it

00:31:36.260 appears i haven't gotten it yet but i'm sure i will and whatever so in that sense this long

00:31:43.940 covid thing could be just life as we know it in which case the whole world will just join hands

00:31:51.560 with my brothers and sisters yes and the world will just they also will be too tired to go to

00:31:56.320 so it won't even read as fatigue in that way i can't this isn't a rare condition now next up

00:32:05.180 how nice to not have a rare condition yeah okay do you know what i mean and finally

00:32:11.880 the number one symptom for every single thing ever yeah is being tired no totally well that's

00:32:19.100 the thing there's literally a thousand reasons i might could be fatigued who isn't tired that's

00:32:24.800 the larger kind of question right for me sometimes I'm like well I'm flashing forward to around

00:32:30.360 11 30 this morning I was experiencing a lot of energy euphoria even I found myself dancing around

00:32:36.880 my bedroom and I flashed back to Cameron Diaz and Charlie's Angels which was a really huge moment

00:32:45.760 for me her dancing in a room her she wakes up she puts her okay she wakes up she puts her retainer

00:32:52.380 in a little retainer case she flips the duvet on her bed she makes her bed with this one motion 1.00

00:32:57.920 which was so unimaginable to me right and the joy in cameron diaz and she's like hot and sexy

00:33:03.560 dancing around in her little underwear and she's in the mirror and she's looking at herself and

00:33:08.200 she's taking pleasure in her own image and she's greeting the day and she's laughing and it's like

00:33:13.000 oh my god what a way to start the day it really i still haven't recovered from that sequence

00:33:20.740 well first of all duvet over what i am imagining was a down comforter okay that likely wasn't

00:33:32.080 separated into squares you know what i'm talking about correct correct correct right because in

00:33:38.300 order to have quilted yeah thank you in order to have that one motion yeah do it you kind of need

00:33:45.180 just like a bag of feathers god i need to re-watch now sometimes they are gonna go to the edge

00:33:52.320 tom green was my dream sorry keep going really give it to me but keep going no i don't even know

00:33:57.580 but he was there and i was having this thing these dreams okay keep going sorry keep going no i just

00:34:03.320 i've recently been in the market for a comforter did i tell you like how i felt deeply seen by the

00:34:09.500 line in in succession alexander scars guard's character when he's like hey i'm sleeping on a

00:34:15.220 mat because i uh want to do a deep dive on mattresses before i purchase oh so i'm sleeping

00:34:21.660 on a mat i don't even remember that line that's really funny yeah you know that's i go years

00:34:26.900 without a coffee table because i can't find one that inspires me or whatever it's like this the 0.94

00:34:31.360 shit and can't buy anything now without googling looking for the best version of a thing right now 0.92

00:34:37.320 is this an ongoing thing where i've decided i need a comforter and do i go for i started 0.99

00:34:44.280 researching and it's like if you're gonna go down that shit better be hungarian feathers 0.99

00:34:48.820 otec certified or whatever the fuck i make that up but you know and then you just you're poisoned 0.99

00:34:54.140 because now you're like are the down feathers humane if you're not doing that you're doing 0.94

00:34:58.000 a down alternative that could mean anything and they're all fucking quilted now and i know why

00:35:04.380 they want to keep the feathers even but I kind of dream of I don't have a quilted I don't have a

00:35:09.740 quilted I'm gonna help you I think um company store I was really raised in a company store

00:35:15.180 house wait so was I my mother always oh my god like the catalog my mother still by the way here's

00:35:22.120 what's really bizarre here's what's really bizarre I get the company store catalog inexplicably

00:35:28.120 okay how do they know I'm here it must be just linked to a purchase your mother must have give

00:35:32.700 something once your mother must have gifted you she would not she knows that i don't want the

00:35:37.340 catalog it just starts arriving i claim anti-semitism i do too but but or pro-semitism

00:35:44.800 i guess i mean company store by the way i've been flirting no i'm saying your mother gifted you not

00:35:50.060 the catalog she gifted you something from the store once they got your address that's what i

00:35:54.240 was thinking i know it's the gold standard no knowing nothing it's the gold standard like my

00:35:58.260 mom's like well you know like oh look at the company store you know they just have it well

00:36:04.080 i've been think flirting with the idea of a company store throw for my couch did i text you

00:36:09.820 and say do you need to throw because i frankly have found one that's really doing great work

00:36:14.800 for me right now what is it and you know i researched well it's it's not weighted is it 0.96

00:36:21.700 no sorry that was rude why if it was you mean that you'd say you're you're trash or something 0.80

00:36:26.980 No, I just, continue, continue. 0.86

00:36:29.440 Oh, like, it's not weighted, is it? 1.00

00:36:30.600 You scum. 0.98

00:36:31.760 No, we had to basically get rid of our two weighted blankets 0.99

00:36:34.700 because Chris felt that they were causing our cushions.

00:36:39.560 Ooh, to flatten?

00:36:40.540 They were destroying our couch through their weight.

00:36:43.800 They were flattening down the couch.

00:36:46.040 He believes so.

00:36:47.060 Is that what you're saying?

00:36:47.520 No, they're often in a pile, like two of them on top of each other.

00:36:51.100 And then, like, I asked my brother, like,

00:36:53.040 do you have a weighted blanket?

00:36:54.120 When I was, like, thinking of Christmas presents, you know,

00:36:56.580 i was like have you tried a weighted blanket before and he's like yeah but like you know

00:37:00.000 you throw your back out trying to fold that thing and it's true it's an issue weighted blankets will

00:37:07.720 they stand the test of the time hard to say you know like can you see five years from now being

00:37:12.000 like remember weighted blankets yeah i i don't buy it see this is like i shouldn't even say number

00:37:17.060 because my ideas of numbers are so warped yeah i was gonna say i bet there aren't 500 000 people

00:37:22.360 in america with a with a weighted blanket hysterical i mean you know one of my yeah one

00:37:27.380 of my most shocking misunderstandings of i've never told you this my friend once said to me

00:37:33.980 we're talking about stand-up and he was like very he was like how many stand-up shows do you think

00:37:37.940 you've done in your life and i was like in my life and i take about i really consider this and

00:37:43.600 i go oh no okay well i started doing stand-up for the first time when i was 17 if i really think

00:37:49.540 about every show and i'm really starting to think and i take my time and i go

00:37:54.580 25 000 no it's completely obviously not even a fraction of that that would be because here's

00:38:06.000 the thing a thousand in a year would be three sets a night right or yeah more less you know

00:38:10.500 365 right so so yeah a thousand in a year right and then so 25 years of three times a

00:38:19.440 night is what you'd need i i thought you were gonna go the other way i thought you're gonna be

00:38:27.360 like like 300 you know like yeah no but the time i took and going i mean 20 25 000 that's so funny

00:38:37.780 i don't know how how many that's so funny i don't know about that stuff days well to have like a i

00:38:47.160 don't think it's natural to have a gut understanding of numbers much beyond people have it but i mean

00:38:53.560 a gut i mean a visceral embodied i was thinking about that about temperature oh yeah i can't i'm

00:39:00.180 never gonna be feels like i mean it said i had a friend he said to me the other day said it was

00:39:06.300 40 degrees but felt like 30 or he said yeah it said it was uh you know 46 degrees but it felt

00:39:12.980 like 40 with wind chill or whatever and i was thought well that's pathetic no i well you want

00:39:19.380 to know here's and i bet you're the same okay here's where confusion lies are you ready here's

00:39:24.160 the point of confusion 45 to 70 okay that's where it's like i don't know 70 degrees like i know 40

00:39:33.600 okay yeah if you tell me it's 70 out i know we're good right yes right right oh it's 70 degrees 70

00:39:40.940 and mild 70 and sunny another succession moment there's one reference to someone i think it's

00:39:48.060 like kendall likes the thermostat set in the office to 68 i think the joke kind of being like

00:39:54.620 it's very cold like wasteful acs so that's become now my idea of oh so 68 is very cold

00:40:03.460 that kind of helps but when i think oh but someone goes 68 degrees outside in my mind i'm grabbing a

00:40:09.560 tank top but that's wrong well that also depends on you know what you're used to in the you know 0.99

00:40:15.020 living in Los Angeles now whatever I can't believe how freezing it is you know that kind of shit 0.94

00:40:19.900 right it's relative but here's the question here's the hardest thing because I'll be like is it warm 0.97

00:40:24.160 out do I need a sweatshirt whatever and then it's like well ask Siri for the temperature or whatever

00:40:29.520 if the number is in the 50s I don't know what to do with that yeah the 50s are hard those are

00:40:35.580 confusing those are cold they gotta be is freezing is the point of which is the freezing point 31

00:40:42.320 is that what freezing is 31 32 i think that's when water freezes i mean fahrenheit right celsius is 0.96

00:40:51.440 zero right yeah it's like funny like you ever experience this you're reading like the fucking 0.63

00:40:57.040 daily mail or something and they're like so and so lost two stone you are reading i was just 0.81

00:41:04.520 thinking about stone i mean i wish i had said it so that kilos and me right now reacting i truly

00:41:12.860 the stone thing is so exotic because they're always like you know whatever it is like bbc

00:41:18.560 documentary footage of maybe like morbidly obese people and they're like carol is for a stone

00:41:25.700 no daughter a sick stone and i'm like what does that mean

00:41:30.100 or like i don't know is stone i assume i always assume stone is who cares yeah i mean look it up

00:41:39.540 but it's like 10 pounds let's look up yeah it kind of lives in the world of um four score and 0.76

00:41:45.080 seven years ago i already forgot what's the score two weeks or some shit oh my god i just learned

00:41:50.220 a fortnight was two weeks oh right that i guess that's what i'm thinking what is score let me see 0.96

00:41:57.060 okay you ready for this yeah one stone is 14 pounds see here's my question are you ready

00:42:04.100 i have a lot to say how the hell is the number 14 that's madness doing anything for anybody what is

00:42:10.740 that madness so so the brits are being asked to they go four stone they're being asked to

00:42:16.620 multiply four by 14 that can't be right i am completely stunned i mean it's still i mean 0.99

00:42:23.460 It doesn't say stones on their goddamn scales. 0.99

00:42:26.540 I mean, I know we're being funny, but I mean, it's also dead ass serious. 0.99

00:42:29.800 I don't know what it says over there.

00:42:31.980 I just like to hear them talk.

00:42:34.300 Are you seduced by accents easily?

00:42:36.740 Someone talking to you in a British accent?

00:42:39.320 Does that make you go?

00:42:41.280 I do impart to them certain.

00:42:43.860 I impart to them centuries.

00:42:46.480 Yeah, there's a wisdom.

00:42:47.700 There's also a thing that is real about like British kind of like refinement or manners

00:42:52.780 or like turns a phrase like if you notice this that americans who spend time in the uk or europe

00:42:59.200 say as well a lot they go well i'll do that as well and they go very interesting we'll have water

00:43:04.960 as well i i see it that one's hard for me because for some unknown reason i tend to say as well i

00:43:11.060 say as well too and i feel like it's me it's like a teenage attempt to sound right traveled as

00:43:16.860 opposed to saying two also i'll have that too yeah i'll have that as well oh and could we have

00:43:23.020 god sorry just let's play restaurant for one second because just you saying that i want to

00:43:28.120 okay it was so fun let's pretend let's pretend got excited i know made me really excited okay

00:43:33.320 how's this how's this oh wait here's it here's the cocktails are on their way i just wanted to

00:43:37.000 check in if you wanted to put in an order for any appetizer while you're figuring out what you want

00:43:40.360 for the rest of your meal do you want me to put something into the kitchen oh my god by the way

00:43:45.060 they almost never do that. They almost, by the way, they almost never do that. I know. That's

00:43:48.340 why I created it. They don't want you to put in an app. That's why I created it. Cause it's a

00:43:54.100 fantasy. Okay. Yeah, go. Okay. Well, I wanted to order a shrimp cocktail. How many shrimp are in

00:44:01.640 the shrimp cocktail? No, I wouldn't ask that. It's ridiculous. In my mind, six, but I don't know.

00:44:05.860 I was going to say six. So I was going to say, could we do, um, let's start with a shrimp

00:44:09.840 cocktail and what looks good to you? Well, I'm just, I'm immediately heading to my classics.

00:44:14.220 like when i would go to ultra paradisio and it always started with arancini arancini oh well

00:44:21.220 let's just get an air in order for arancini just so we don't pass away instantly yeah yeah god no

00:44:28.560 but to be able to relax and study the menu but knowing something's on its way i mean i'm going

00:44:33.480 to dinner with a friend on sunday and i've been looking at oh but looking at the menu ahead of

00:44:39.120 time because i had never been i've never been and so it feels because i'm such a creature of habit

00:44:45.120 and repetition and i want what i want i don't it's much more rare for me to go to a new restaurant

00:44:50.800 but i'm going to a new restaurant and then the thrill of examining the menus days in advance

00:44:54.500 but then is there a loss of joy in sitting down and seeing it for the first time i still don't

00:44:58.880 know the answer where are you with it there might be okay here here's what it is you ready for this

00:45:04.060 this is big yeah so like it matters to me the question of with a given friend if we're let's

00:45:10.340 splitting and movies no no no I wasn't even gonna go there sorry I'll let you speak like let's let's

00:45:15.840 go to a place we've both never been oh yeah that's fun that's fun or let's go to a place we both love

00:45:21.840 yeah those are kind of to me the ideals now because and and and this is a control thing for you

00:45:30.420 yeah obviously like you're like okay this place is amazing we're going to this place right and

00:45:37.040 you have ideas about what you want and you're stuck on it i i sometimes hear these things

00:45:40.380 like i hear them in my head you're just going crispy lacy edges crispy lacy edges about the

00:45:47.020 commodore's burger i had that burger today no it's about burgers never say die which i had

00:45:52.140 astonishing that title that that's the name of the restaurant i know and that's what good food

00:45:57.000 just produce it's incredible just like boys being boys but anyway so going to a restaurant that you

00:46:02.220 know and love already that i've never been to of course there's one element of pleasure which is

00:46:05.820 you love this place you will have good recommendations about what to get but it's a

00:46:10.660 completely different experience than us discovering a restaurant together it's like going in raw

00:46:17.860 is really fun going in together raw exploring assessing my heart is pounding right now

00:46:23.840 out of excitement, out of imagining. Yeah. So, so I have taken to, I feel like this may have

00:46:30.320 happened if let's say you're like, we have to go to blah, blah, blah. Okay. I may peruse the menu

00:46:36.060 in advance in that scenario so that I am not just completely steamrolled into an order. So I'm

00:46:45.260 trying to look at study the menu in the moment so that I'm not steamrolled going. You don't want

00:46:49.500 that yeah yeah so I've time to notice things that I might not otherwise notice you know this is a

00:46:55.740 different this is a different level of you know restaurants or church kind of existence but yeah

00:47:01.180 I don't always do it I do think it's if you've heard the restaurants really good yeah don't

00:47:06.540 bother with looking online I think so but it can be tempting it's fun though it's really fun

00:47:12.260 but you guess what it is a thief of joy because last night I was looking at the menu for this

00:47:18.700 place there was no one to turn to in my home it felt like cheating a little bit okay that's what

00:47:27.000 it is it feels a little bit like cheating and even I particularly here's another thing you can't show

00:47:32.960 up with ideas you can't show up going I was thinking we could get this and that and split this

00:47:37.020 I mean you can't do that I would never do that to someone right but I would also I would hate if

00:47:41.900 you had studied the menu and knew and then faked with me in person okay like that would be like my

00:47:47.560 worst nightmare you're like i am so i value like knowing what's going on in this way that you would 0.97

00:47:55.680 feel like you were a fool that would be abandonment to me for you to be like yeah and i could see your 0.93

00:48:00.940 face if you were doing it okay and i would like i'd be like you looked at the menu didn't you and 0.99

00:48:04.120 i'd pull you out and i wouldn't let you do it to me okay because you know i'd be like no i'd rather

00:48:08.000 hear about it but i can almost see you being like i think the mozzarella with the pea shoots yeah

00:48:12.860 I think I might fake it.

00:48:14.260 I think you're right.

00:48:15.040 I could see myself faking it.

00:48:16.860 We should take a quick break.

00:48:18.820 Yeah.

00:48:19.240 Okay.

00:48:19.480 We'll be right back.

00:48:23.460 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.

00:48:27.520 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.

00:48:32.620 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune.

00:48:36.640 It was hard to wrap your head around.

00:48:37.980 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

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00:49:50.960 or wherever you listen to podcasts hello it's me anna sinfield from the girlfriends the number one

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00:50:05.560 one-off interviews with some truly kick-ass women on the Girlfriends Spotlight. I want to introduce 0.98

00:50:12.520 you to Sylvia. I'm going to climb this. And then there's Vaisaka. Let's see how we can stop killing

00:50:20.600 and save lives. Leila dared to ask the question. Is badness hereditary? And finally, we'll meet

00:50:28.140 rosamond if it wasn't for the air where ella lived she wouldn't have died on that fatal night

00:50:34.420 you'll even get to meet my mum in that one who i can always count on to keep my feet on the ground

00:50:39.260 i'm not too intimidated by her what are you talking about

00:50:42.000 listen to the girlfriend spotlight on the i heart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your

00:50:49.680 podcast but here's here's the thing if you are going to look at a menu in advance do it on the

00:51:04.820 restaurant's proper website or get out of here always are you kidding me you think i'm going to

00:51:09.580 yelp google google some photograph some blurry photo of a menu from 1902 absolutely i'm going

00:51:17.340 to the proper website even if it's there no i don't want to see it yeah i just i'm like oh i

00:51:22.780 just want to live in i want to talk about restaurants i want to talk about so i think

00:51:25.240 about restaurants too i just remember how how deeply i got burned because you know some

00:51:28.760 restaurants make a reservation they'll hold your card right and you have to do 24-hour cancellation

00:51:33.600 i recently reservation it was 48-hour cancellation which is oh they require 48 completely obscene

00:51:41.460 yeah New York or LA LA and that's what was weird oh no I guess it's kind of almost to be assumed

00:51:47.860 so so here's what it is 48 hour or they charge you 25 ahead it's for two people I let them know

00:51:56.760 over 24 hours in advance that I wasn't going to be able to make it and they still charged me and

00:52:03.180 I was like wait really even though I'm over 24 hours and this isn't like a ticketed restaurant

00:52:07.620 where it's a very limited seating this is a restaurant that's i'm just not convinced they're

00:52:12.440 not going to fill those seats you know what i mean this isn't like a blue hill situation um is

00:52:19.260 that a fine restaurant in los angeles in new york and i'm thinking about the farm you know you like

00:52:24.440 go to the farm and i mean i don't know but it's just any blue blah blah blah like i those names

00:52:29.620 all float together i thought 48 hours was a bit much i think it is too also like a cancellation

00:52:35.980 of a dinner like it either happens that day or i don't know it's weird like canceling dinner two

00:52:43.800 days in advance someone gets sick someone's can't do it yeah yeah no i felt offended and i because

00:52:50.420 i do take it really seriously i when i say make a reservation i don't just not show up if i'm not

00:52:54.400 gonna go i really i have anxiety about that like i really let places know so it just felt like they

00:53:00.300 were really injuring someone they didn't that was on their side oh you know well that's the thing I

00:53:06.860 mean if we're all sloppy about it I paid $50 I paid $50 yeah no I've done it I'm trying to

00:53:12.400 remember I did it in New York 24 hours and I was like it is what it is oh my god I really want to

00:53:19.680 go to a restaurant with you this sucks imagine I'm just like I mean sorry my eyes are getting a

00:53:24.300 teary i'm just remembering the bread and the ricotta and the olive oil at ultra okay oh yeah 0.96

00:53:31.400 but just when warm fresh bread with those pockets of air and you hold it up to your nose

00:53:38.760 and there's that sort of sourdough smell the fermentation the fermentation what makes you

00:53:44.900 more emotional this is a key question what makes you more emotional sorry

00:53:49.520 what makes you more emotional exquisite olive oil or exquisite butter and don't answer because

00:53:57.480 i have to think for myself okay hold on let me think it's context though it's really hard

00:54:06.160 exquisite let me narrow it a little bit okay so we're at the finest restaurant in the world

00:54:14.100 okay we know nothing other than every single thing they do is the best

00:54:17.780 okay so we don't have to worry about yeah you know it's quality so you know that back there

00:54:22.320 they have either they they offer one two things they offer their butter or their olive oil you

00:54:29.840 don't get to know and bread paired with bread of course of course of course okay oh i just had

00:54:36.880 anxiety about when they have crisp when they have flatbread instead of real bread if you go to a

00:54:40.980 restaurant and they only have flatbread they only offer a cracker without bread oh sorry when you

00:54:46.380 said flatbread i was picturing more like red crisp i meant like a crisp like a cracker by the way a

00:54:51.200 high quality cracker will make you drop to your knees and moan like for sure i love a good cracker

00:54:55.840 i'm sorry but continue i want to talk about this i just was thinking about how upsetting it would

00:54:58.800 be if they only had crackers no i want to live in this i want to live in this so you know you know

00:55:02.960 they have the finest olive oil you know they have the finest like butter you don't know in what way

00:55:08.260 but you know it is absolutely the best in the world and you get one or the other served with

00:55:13.220 your bread and you don't get to come back to the restaurant you're leaving town I know what I want

00:55:17.300 hold on butter it's actually it surprised me my answer surprised me is it butter yeah me too and

00:55:25.940 it surprised me too in a way no only once we I think but I think I know why I think it's because

00:55:31.540 for some reason I don't actually know I don't actually have much experience with like what's

00:55:37.400 an incredible butter versus like what's making this butter so good is it just pure quality is

00:55:42.220 it like oh it's herbed salt no I don't want it herbed I meant just like the I don't know what 0.92

00:55:50.220 is it I would actually be upset if it were herbed because I'd be like what are you hiding what are

00:55:56.500 you hiding well yeah I mean it's like butter not enough is butter not enough if you want an herb

00:56:02.700 you know sprinkle it a top I mean now I'm just back to the crostini again

00:56:07.180 thick slab of cold butter what was it parsley anchovy parsley a lot of that parsley a lot of

00:56:16.020 parsley crunch crunch crunchy crunchy crunchy all right let's play all the desert island games

00:56:22.440 all right okay okay so you can either have you're you're on a you know desert island okay

00:56:28.440 and once a day is the desert island fun or is it bad i never know well this is the issue is it

00:56:34.820 scary out there well the way i see it is like it's cast away okay oh right all right you're

00:56:40.840 gonna yeah okay of course you're there but you're in some weird scenario desert island meaning you

00:56:46.420 have access to nothing but what you have there clear waters and you get one thing magically you

00:56:52.560 know it's almost like okay and for some reason they drop you know a package is dropped from an

00:56:57.320 airplane once a day okay okay it is either a loaf of fresh warm fragrant bread okay or it is

00:57:09.340 pasta now let's just take a minute with it a cooked bowl of pasta because i'm going right now

00:57:16.560 how do we deal with i mean i guess clearly the answer there would be bread because no sauce

00:57:21.700 right so so no sauce I thought you meant like a bowl of cacio e pepe arrives no no no I mean

00:57:28.020 I mean like if we're not talking about anything else right if it's like you can either have plain

00:57:32.800 bread or plain pasta the answer is plain bread of course however I'm trying to make all things

00:57:38.140 equal so it's like all right so then what if it's one perfect pasta dish to your liking that

00:57:45.000 as you like it same every day okay you do have to commit to that but every night down comes okay

00:57:51.860 a gorgeous delicious big bowl of pasta i have my answer how you like it or

00:57:58.740 i mean i think bread and cheese the loaf of bread you went and did it didn't you

00:58:06.300 you went and did it

00:58:08.860 you mean i made it challenging and i think it's even more than cheese i think it's okay because

00:58:16.240 if we're talking a full pasta dish that's like your favorite that could have meat in it that

00:58:19.320 so i almost think it's like charcuterie board done charcuterie board and the bread

00:58:24.860 i had such an exquisite time recently with i mean nothing beats a gorgeous thing of bread 0.81

00:58:34.380 some fucking unspeakably perfect prosciutto a heavenly hard cheese i want hard cheese always

00:58:42.000 i'm sorry no it's just i love hard cheese who i am and olives of course there are soft cheeses i 0.97

00:58:50.240 enjoy and so do you of course but of course but i want hard cheese okay one you get one cheese

00:58:56.940 cheddar and some olives pate baby okay pate no no manchego but hard cheese with

00:59:05.220 okay if i'm at a my dream hard cheese for my charcuterie life is an aged gouda or a really

00:59:16.720 incredible high quality reggiano right sometimes the really those kinds of parmesans that are served

00:59:23.680 in that way they do something in my mouth that feels like an allergic reaction do you ever have

00:59:28.520 that oh yeah yeah sure the little sting itch thing yeah so it i can't fully enjoy those sometimes

00:59:34.980 it's been devastating i've tried to push through gouda gouda is so interesting aged not smoked

00:59:41.740 not smoked no no no then that's key people no smoked i don't even want to hear it i don't want

00:59:47.520 to see it i don't want to see the packaging anywhere i'm having an aged gouda people don't

00:59:52.440 understand gouda no i don't think i do because i think i'm i think i'm inhaling it in my mind

00:59:57.620 nutty crystals and i'm seeing that brown wax sort of not wax but the brown sort of crust of a smoked

01:00:03.880 gouda that's aged i'm sorry that's smoked get smoked out get smoked banished smoke no it's

01:00:09.420 distinctly but you can't take it out of my nose it's in there i'm trying to remember what gouda

01:00:13.580 is like without that smoked has smoked gouda has left a stain on gouda on the world of gouda

01:00:20.340 An aged Gouda, a nutty aged Gouda will devastate you.

01:00:28.500 No, I'm getting it tonight.

01:00:29.500 Wait, can we do a charcuterie night soon?

01:00:33.580 Yes, yes.

01:00:34.500 But wait, let's talk about other items on the perfect charcuterie board.

01:00:38.380 Okay, guess what I don't need.

01:00:40.360 Okay, yeah.

01:00:41.060 Wait, wait, wait.

01:00:41.840 I need to guess.

01:00:42.840 I need to guess.

01:00:43.640 Which you don't need.

01:00:44.460 That often appears kind of thing.

01:00:46.440 Grapes?

01:00:47.040 It's not like I don't want it.

01:00:48.440 oh um that's a hard one for me but no I don't need them wait no but what's the one grapes

01:00:53.960 I was gonna say like a fig jam I like how dare you actually I've gotten more into it I've gotten

01:01:00.040 more into it I take it back I know I felt bad no no because here's the thing it's essential okay

01:01:04.480 I never thought it was okay it could be a fig jam it's grown on me a mar like almost a marmalade

01:01:10.580 one of those things the way it cuts because you know I'm savory all day okay savory over sweet

01:01:17.780 always if i had to choose as am i i'm not there and by the way it's taken years for me to get to

01:01:24.000 that point to savory the way i just threw that away as am i the way i just threw that away

01:01:28.340 i'm shocked because i think that's who i am i think and you know i i think all foodies of course

01:01:35.800 the savory it's actually completely you can't even begin to equate salt with sweet you can't go

01:01:40.620 salty or sweet you know what i mean it's like it's and to me sweet sends me like my favorite

01:01:47.500 sweet is a way to be pulled away from savory so that i can return to it okay so like i enjoy

01:01:53.040 dessert because it refreshes the palate like it makes me yearn for for yeah going back for more

01:02:00.120 of whatever like that like ending on dessert ending on dessert is not where it's at for me

01:02:06.180 wait did we ever end on cheese together no i recently did a cheese plate i'm into a cheese

01:02:12.260 course because of course i am you you'll opt for cheese course over dessert i don't want to walk

01:02:17.980 away from a restaurant with the taste of chocolate in my mouth fascinating i want to be brutalized 0.72

01:02:24.460 by i think you're elevated and i'm and i'm living like a fool because i well i'm shocked because i

01:02:30.600 don't even think of you as chasing sweets i mean i'm not but i do like sweets i do but you know

01:02:36.160 i do too though here's when i want to sweet more in the morning i would rather agreed have like a

01:02:42.520 fabulous pastry with coffee well i strongly believe in dessert before a meal is actually

01:02:49.160 the finest time to have it okay you're completely correct so have you ever had been starving and 0.98

01:02:55.220 gotten an ice cream cone it's unbelievable fuck that's so smart on your way to dinner okay you 0.98

01:03:01.760 or there's an hour till dinner okay you're starving that's really wise and it's almost 0.99

01:03:08.280 it's simple i remember one time like a sugar cone with a scoop of strawberry ice cream okay 0.93

01:03:15.600 and it was a fucking revelation and then so you eat it in this way at the restaurant 0.93

01:03:21.660 you arrive at the restaurant happy you're happy and now you get to you get to land it the little 0.99

01:03:27.980 sugar high whatever yeah yeah you can just now bring down that's really this is familiar because

01:03:35.680 there have been there was a time recently where I was starving and I didn't have time for breakfast

01:03:40.020 and I had to go somewhere and I had a honey mama's I had honey mama's chocolate in my fridge

01:03:45.060 and I had some honey mama's chocolate and it felt like it really did satiate me according to like

01:03:53.400 the health models in a way you know the sugar first versus after yeah is supposed to be better

01:04:01.520 because when your liver is fresh and ready to go it can process the sugar after it's already been

01:04:07.260 eating all the other stuff that then it just it's a whole thing but it's that like fruit first thing

01:04:11.600 in the morning versus after a meal showing up at dessert stuffed out of your mind and then forcing

01:04:18.380 it down is actually sickening yeah yeah yeah banana cream pie on top of yeah do you like

01:04:25.220 banana cream pie you know i'm i'm trying to think like i can't picture what that is

01:04:30.920 there's the answer a really really flaky okay so it's a flaky caramelized crust you need the

01:04:40.200 crust to be so flaky and then bananas cream no i'm trying to i had a banana i had a banana

01:04:49.420 like ice cream kind of pie thing at a steak restaurant once that nearly knocked my you know

01:04:59.640 face off my head oh my god i love a banana by the way one of the classics we don't talk about it

01:05:07.320 enough the banana split how could it be so good how explain it i think it's because similar to

01:05:15.560 the going from salty to sweet and going to sweet only to return to salty the humble workaday

01:05:22.280 flavor of the banana and dare i say texture don't forget texture is something from your regular life

01:05:28.420 of sustenance of a banana in the morning right modesty even it's it's modest and then to have

01:05:34.600 it to have marachino cherries defiled yeah defiling it okay whip cream you know what it's 0.98

01:05:41.640 full madonna slut it's like yes hitting that it's like your little it's it's mommy kissing 1.00

01:05:49.340 santa claus well she fucks yeah yeah we'll wait till you get a look at her now she put her hair 1.00

01:05:55.440 up yeah she's wet i mean obviously the eroticism of the split you know like the sort of oh yeah 1.00

01:06:03.880 Like we're taking a banana, we're ripping her out of her sealed encasement, and we're opening it up.

01:06:12.360 Yeah, the practicality of the banana, as you said, and it's so encased, it's in the peel.

01:06:19.340 The banana peel is more banana than the fruit inside.

01:06:23.240 Yes, because the fruit, yeah, like a naked banana. 0.96

01:06:27.080 The nudity of the naked banana. 0.95

01:06:28.360 The nudity of a banana. 0.99

01:06:29.540 If they really want to be perverts, actually, they shouldn't slice it. 0.58

01:06:32.660 the slicing it like even the lengthwise slicing is something but if they just left it like 0.99

01:06:38.100 whole whole and naked on a plate is shocking yeah and just the bare cock yeah and then of course 0.98

01:06:48.040 yeah i mean you know it's obvious so it's phallic it's more than that that would undersell 0.99

01:06:54.400 the eroticism no getting a banana split no but there's there is something about the lengthwise

01:07:00.080 slice i think that's really part of it because let's take a minute with this when you take a

01:07:06.660 bite and do a good banana by the way let's talk about a good banana for a second okay okay people

01:07:11.480 have all different ideas when you have a good cold banana when you have a good cold you like

01:07:17.740 a cold what do you mean to me cold just means not mushy yeah yeah okay but like yeah yeah it

01:07:24.180 doesn't have to be actually cold but like when you take a bite cold okay and now you're you know

01:07:29.340 the edge of a banana obviously once peeled okay peel is gone okay feel the edge of banana very

01:07:34.480 specific texture right take a bite smooth no but the outside's not smooth it's like fibrous

01:07:39.600 you mean the rippled yeah yeah it's kind of yeah it's like uh yeah it's not textured but then you

01:07:45.220 take a bite i'm dreaming of an unbruised banana but continue a what unbruised so am i that

01:07:52.180 uniformity yeah uniformity of this of the uniform the way tweed is uniform yes very well put

01:07:59.060 it's definitely a texture so then but you take that first bite okay here's when you know what's

01:08:04.960 what you take the first bite and now you're in the smooth interior yeah yeah that's where you go

01:08:11.860 what are we doing here okay that's where we go what kind of bananas and like cold is almost

01:08:17.840 the only way I can describe it even though it's that's not but how do you yeah it's smooth like

01:08:24.220 it's wet and smooth in this way god it's wild but how do you because some people

01:08:33.960 what's worse to you an underripe banana or an overripe banana maybe over you know what's crazy

01:08:45.860 i'm with you and i used i could tolerate a little a little like hard green because

01:08:52.860 Versus the fermented kind of effervescent sweetness.

01:08:59.240 I've pushed a banana.

01:09:00.600 I've pushed it too.

01:09:01.800 And by the way, I've become more in my, as I age, as I grow and I see the way the world really is,

01:09:08.860 I can take a little, some more brown specks on the banana.

01:09:11.940 I can enjoy that in a way that I, a younger palate wasn't able to enjoy it.

01:09:17.480 Would you slice out, if it's really like a true bruise, can you just slice out the bruise and carry on?

01:09:22.560 yeah yeah or even if it's a slight bruise down it goes i'll like yeah i can tolerate it almost

01:09:28.160 like even being like obliterated by the rest of the bite being good like i can i'm pretty yeah

01:09:33.680 all right give me another food thing and then we'll go all right there's a very simple one

01:09:39.640 but it's one that comes up in life in a few scenarios okay lo mein or fried rice done i

01:09:46.980 know mine instantly what is it on it yep lo mein i knew it you did yeah and that weirdly i think

01:09:56.720 fried rice does something for me that is so fried rice is delicious just nostalgia but fried 0.95

01:10:04.560 fucking rice a little bit of the egg a pea a green pea i'm gonna make some fried rice right after 0.99

01:10:12.580 this i'm gonna make it with cauliflower rice not to be a bitch yeah i can't take a nap again 0.99

01:10:20.920 i know that's fine i'm not trying to shame you i'm just like just send me a pic 0.96

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