Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - March 15, 2022


The Guests Aren't Coming

Topics
cleavage shame
Naked and Warm A God Among Men

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1 hour and 2 minutes

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11,626

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142

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00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
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00:00:04.420 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.
00:00:08.020 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune.
00:00:11.960 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.
00:00:15.780 No, I am not your guru.
00:00:19.420 Back then, I lied to everybody.
00:00:21.720 They have had this case for 30 years.
00:00:24.660 I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth.
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00:01:34.840 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.
00:01:36.300 I'm Jacqueline Novak.
00:01:37.400 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.
00:01:42.140 Two untamable intellects.
00:01:43.900 This is our hobby. 0.97
00:01:44.740 This is our hell.
00:01:45.620 This is our naked desire for free products.
00:01:47.900 This is POOG.
00:01:49.300 Today's topic, loosely speaking.
00:01:51.980 Cosmetics bag.
00:01:53.760 Pepper grinder.
00:01:54.420 I want to talk about cleavage for a couple of minutes.
00:02:02.280 Oh, I love, haven't we talked about cleavage?
00:02:05.660 I mean, we probably have, but you know, it's a, it's a big part of American culture.
00:02:11.020 Do you know the bra that it's like, it goes under your boobs and then you can pull it's 0.80
00:02:16.600 like a corset and it gives you cleavage. 1.00
00:02:18.700 Cause like I was out with my friend and she had this just kicking cleavage. 1.00
00:02:23.240 and I was like what's going on like I thought maybe she'd even had you know her tits done 1.00
00:02:28.100 and she was like no I just have this I think I've seen where it's like a corset tie right 0.85
00:02:34.020 you see I can't tell yeah yeah and I thought I bought one and it never arrived but I don't like 0.97
00:02:39.560 the thing of it's it's like sticky and it sticks to your tits oh and I don't like the idea of 0.97
00:02:44.560 peeling that off at the end of the night that feels really I mean maybe that would be fine 0.86
00:02:48.880 i'm suddenly kind of interested in cleavage as well what's your relationship to cleavage so i
00:02:54.160 struggle with it okay i mean you have a you have a rack like it's not my true nature it's it's just 0.98
00:03:01.960 weight gain do you know what i mean so like it's it's not truly my bosom your tits are just passing 0.99
00:03:07.340 through town passing through town for 15 years or whatever look i'm in head to toe adam selman 0.98
00:03:17.740 to be clear oh wow the sweatshirt too you purchased this one's from a sample sale wow fun yeah and
00:03:25.620 then i purchased from another sample sale and it has not arrived and i've been hounding them
00:03:29.820 they're like could have gotten lost oh no you can't accept that anyway but my i have my struggle
00:03:37.420 yes i'm getting so excited i keep going i'm cutting you off with complete just i'm making
00:03:42.600 a note so you don't forget okay dyson oh i can't wait to discuss so cleavage to me has this 0.98
00:03:50.100 association that is so fucked up which is the slut in in a late 80s through early 90s kind of movie 0.98
00:03:58.320 romantic comedy uh-huh they just don't give cleavage to the romantic lead okay right right 1.00
00:04:05.800 because she can't be taken seriously they give it to the slut friend she can't be taken seriously 1.00
00:04:11.560 if she's putting that forward you know the romantic lead always has yeah tits concealed 0.99
00:04:17.380 in a sweater to offset the sexuality stuffed into cashmere yeah yeah and and i've internalized this 0.87
00:04:28.300 and so i feel when i have cleavage like like i'm just i'm asking for it you know totally and true 0.78
00:04:36.740 cleavage with the the breasts truly pressed together right oh yeah that would be cleavage 0.51
00:04:43.180 that's the to me the most raunchy well because remember cleavage that i feel ashamed of do you
00:04:48.860 remember or i remember as a kid or something it was like we're attracted to cleavage because it 0.99
00:04:54.320 reminds us of an ass you know it's like homo sapiens they look at the tits smashed together 1.00
00:04:59.940 and they go it's an ass i want to fuck like that's the idea right right well it's almost like 1.00
00:05:06.020 And I remember hearing that as like a 13-year-old 1.00
00:05:08.780 and then it was never the same.
00:05:11.960 The drive to procreate, right? 1.00
00:05:14.020 It's like they were just aiming for the ass 1.00
00:05:16.520 and randomly they were getting inside of the vagina. 1.00
00:05:19.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00
00:05:21.600 You know what I mean? 1.00
00:05:22.480 It's not like, oh, it looks like a vagina 1.00
00:05:24.320 and that's where they got to go to procreate. 1.00
00:05:26.560 No, it just happened. 1.00
00:05:27.820 We thought they were hitting the ass the whole time. 1.00
00:05:29.940 Oh my God, wow. 1.00
00:05:32.500 And there was another ass in there, yeah. 1.00
00:05:35.240 god but yeah so i just see this kind of woman in a very particular you know the low-cut suit 1.00
00:05:41.540 sort of a square cut short suit red suit okay my shirt's overly open as we're talking about 1.00
00:05:48.140 cleavage right sorry and then yet you know you're also expected to be ashamed if the
00:05:54.640 if the crevice is too wide somehow the crevice just i don't know there's no winning uh that's
00:06:04.120 not true that's not true let me pull it back i need a push-up bra i'm intrigued and i don't want
00:06:09.740 padding i'm kind of intrigued by that thing i remember one time in um seventh grade someone
00:06:14.420 was like this guy was like it was like she stuffs her bra or something and i in fact did not because
00:06:21.600 i mean you gotta know me i'm some i would never right even if i wanted to the fear of being caught
00:06:27.460 would be so infinitely worse than any i know that we've talked about this i had padded bras i had
00:06:33.620 aqua bras i had a bra that was water filled right i remember the water and you could literally hear 0.99
00:06:39.480 it like if you were running in it it would slosh i was i really wanted tits i wanted goddamn gazongas 0.99
00:06:46.700 and every now and then i'll have a dream that i have a boob job and i wake up like 0.99
00:06:51.160 excited but i really do love not wearing a bra oh god yeah i went to a wedding this weekend and
00:06:58.840 and as usual somehow spent a week preparing for it you know what i mean and then and then day i've
00:07:03.240 still don't have everything i need running around trying to find undergarments oh god the fact that
00:07:08.840 a dress like like an average dress is something that you have to find specific undergarments for 0.87
00:07:13.520 is like fucked up do you know what i mean every single dress requires something different yeah 0.91
00:07:20.320 straps wise like no it's so much tape hollywood tape you know they tape the hollywood tape of 0.99
00:07:27.940 Of course, that was huge when that appeared in the Isles of Ricky's.
00:07:31.700 Oh, wow.
00:07:33.020 But all to say, I covered my cleavage.
00:07:36.220 I sort of moved things around so that my cleavage would be covered. 1.00
00:07:39.060 No, for this very poog. 0.86
00:07:41.220 And one of the reasons I haven't posted my Tracy videos. 1.00
00:07:44.200 The tits are too banging? 1.00
00:07:45.340 Cleavage. 1.00
00:07:46.160 No.
00:07:46.780 Okay, this is great. 1.00
00:07:47.760 We have to break you out of the cleavage shame. 1.00
00:07:50.180 I would kill for pressed together. 1.00
00:07:53.380 Luscious tits. 1.00
00:07:56.120 Well, you think you would. 1.00
00:07:57.940 It's just like my mother always said, if curly hair wants straight, straight wants curly,
00:08:02.100 et cetera, et cetera. 0.97
00:08:03.160 Speaking of tits, mine are sore today. 0.99
00:08:06.840 Oh, yeah? 1.00
00:08:07.600 Menstrual?
00:08:08.700 It would be too early. 0.89
00:08:09.620 I will say a quick COVID thing of just, and Jacqueline, I mean, who cares?
00:08:14.660 But I do.
00:08:15.980 I, of course, I'm not a long hauler, but ever since I got COVID, I'm coughing, not every
00:08:22.100 day but i have this kind of it's dry but i'm coughing in a way that devastates me and of
00:08:29.640 course i've had moments of exhaustion which are normal moments for me generally but cut this it's
00:08:35.600 boring who cares um no it's not boring it's the state of the nation okay and world okay the state
00:08:41.660 of the nation is that i every two days have to consult four people and tell them to tell me i
00:08:47.420 don't have long haul just because of i've been so tired but then also i'm inactive like i don't
00:08:54.500 i have been doing zero exercise right zero anything so that's you know classically gives
00:09:00.200 you energy whatever what if you abandoned the idea of gathering the tribunal to tell you you
00:09:07.160 don't have long haul and instead said what if i do have long haul no well that would be the pima way
00:09:12.400 that would be the zen way radical acceptance no because by the way let's just say i do i'm fine
00:09:16.300 you know exactly that's where i that's where i was trying being tired though
00:09:20.580 you would have never done we've talked about this shots like wellness bars like drips you know and
00:09:26.540 they give you b12 or they give you whatever i'm very interested i want to go do a b12 one and get
00:09:32.220 zooted because i know that they like make you crazy zoot you know like just you get like high
00:09:37.240 as hell to do all your taxes in an afternoon i've never heard the term yeah i'm humiliated no it's 1.00
00:09:43.700 fine zooted i heard it from a young from a youth how is that spelled it's um just means like fucked 0.96
00:09:50.300 up yeah but i love it zooted i know isn't it fun z-o-o-t-e-d that's how i assume yeah i've never 0.87
00:09:57.080 written it zoot yeah and um zoot suit sorry going to one of those bars and getting shot up with b12
00:10:07.080 kind of sounds great but then what if i got addicted well when i went to get a covid test
00:10:15.020 pcr whatever right after exposure to you so to speak okay i contracted it with you yeah
00:10:22.780 i know you know what i wonder are you ready you know theories of course you start putting
00:10:28.600 theories was it the fan did i get it in the lift ride home well we yeah i considered that but
00:10:34.540 was it my use of the fen did you take any spritzes of the fen in your nose because i definitely did
00:10:39.760 that morning i remember handing you mine like because it was the new little fen spritz spritz
00:10:45.640 but then you you dosed me yeah i love dosing you it's really fun coughs coughs and the cough trigger
00:10:51.980 i feel can last ages even from a cold so just keep that in mind okay cool love hearing that
00:10:58.460 and by the way it'd be one thing if i were coughing all day i'm really not it's just an
00:11:01.220 occasional and there's actually something kind of romantic about or makes me feel like yeah i'm
00:11:04.640 really i'm an adult waking up and kind of be like like there's something about it it's a little
00:11:10.960 no i was i was gonna say it's kind of fun you've arrived okay yeah like you've it's like it's very
00:11:16.660 it's literary exactly that's what i was gonna say yeah like caperland with a whiskey cough
00:11:21.880 a whiskey cough and i don't even know what that is i don't even i've never even heard that okay
00:11:27.120 i don't even know if that's a real thing okay i just realized you know when you say something
00:11:30.940 lived in your own brain and and then you're like wait that's just a term i think of myself
00:11:35.060 wait it is the pigs right in 1984 oh no i'm confusing 1984 and um the other one you know 0.52
00:11:42.340 four legs good two legs bad oh yeah oh yeah remember the pigs and at the end they're they're
00:11:48.480 they're drinking whiskey and like laughing or something they're they're they're the pigs okay
00:11:52.360 okay i i have this association with this kind of laugh you're like like wait no i hear that yeah
00:11:59.540 that's fun okay i lost it oh it was real yeah you hear it in the you hear a whistle at the end
00:12:07.540 and you're like they've lived yeah you can feel the whiskey coming out like there's along with
00:12:12.680 the you feel the history there's such history in a cough and there's actually something that's cute
00:12:17.560 like when you hear a little kid like a baby cough those are sensational it's really sweet because
00:12:23.340 it's like well they haven't lived long enough to earn that cough but something about it feels i
00:12:27.880 know there's like a tear in the it's interesting it's interesting there's a hint of um of the past
00:12:33.940 and the future past life yeah there's a hint of them you know that they've lived through the ages
00:12:39.900 in some way no there's something really innocent about their cough and it does sound like
00:12:44.120 i can't even create it through my own way but it's just yeah you hear the small throat it's
00:12:49.900 adorable you ever recognize someone from their cough that's nice yeah like you hear a cough in
00:12:54.960 a room and you're like jerry yeah i had a friend yeah i'm cutting off i'm rapidly pivoting to say
00:13:03.520 okay so i took the huge plunge i believe i mentioned it on last week's episode
00:13:10.020 i decided to pay a full dollar out of pocket for dyson hair dryer okay because i've pocket
00:13:16.040 i mean versus subsidized by i heart or whatever because look at my look at my hair okay there's
00:13:23.700 a lot of it etc i convinced myself i'm deserving of a high-end yeah what's it called a blow dryer
00:13:29.800 yeah i've been using the same diva curl brand hair dryer for like 15 years here it is the history
00:13:36.620 the here's why i deserve it so the dyson comes and there is so much packaging and i'm unwrapping it
00:13:43.380 and i go i should be careful because what if i want to return this but in my mind i'm going
00:13:46.880 you're not gonna return it honey okay you're gonna love it yeah what are you gonna do haul
00:13:50.480 glass to the post office but i well exactly so but i unwrap it and then i excitedly take a shower
00:13:58.660 my first shower with the dyson i do my usual i start to dry my hair with the dicing with dyson
00:14:06.180 waiting i'm sorry i just want to slow it down it's going too fast i'm in the shower by the way
00:14:12.000 my glass doors and i'm looking at my dyson in the shower okay that's no this is that line in
00:14:17.520 romeo and juliet you know in romeo and juliet when leonardo dicaprio comes through the window
00:14:22.160 like you know it's bob of course till the end right but like a you know like a maiden who
00:14:27.500 has to wait to try on her clothes you know that line no i don't recall it's like i'm all ready 0.96
00:14:33.180 i'm all i am like i'm ready to be like fucked yeah i don't remember i'm here i'm ready and 0.84
00:14:38.880 now i have to wait like i have to wait a little bit i can't wear my new dress till tomorrow it's 0.91
00:14:42.000 very specific emotion oh there it is what emma found the right quote okay what is it what is it
00:14:49.300 what is it so tedious is this day as is the night before some festival to an impatient child that
00:14:55.080 hath new robes and may not wear them oh yes hath new robes and may not wear them yes i remember
00:15:00.220 that now and it's you looking at your dyson okay can carry on so i'm looking at my dyson as the
00:15:05.520 steam starts to rise in the shower and then I go out there and I you know I do put my product in
00:15:14.620 I've dried my hair a bit it starts blowing I start doing it and I go okay first of all there's
00:15:21.540 something about I feel like there's a safety to the Dyson it's like the amount of air the amount
00:15:27.240 of heat right it's like there it is folks there it is this is the issue you want an engine like
00:15:34.460 my unwieldy my like illegal hair dryer my 15 year old hair dryer that your fire burning the scent of
00:15:41.900 hair burning that's like absolutely illegal yeah the the way the dyson the diffuser dried it here's
00:15:50.520 the issue for i think for me the volume wasn't there because i'm drying the thing about the diva
00:15:56.160 curl thing is that the dryer is the shape of a hand like it's crazy so you can put it kind of at the
00:16:02.080 root so it dries it closer to the root creating volume the dyson hair dryer i'm piling it into
00:16:07.740 the diffuser i have so much to say okay okay keep it going and i want to try again and i plan to try
00:16:12.940 again today but then i'm like at the cost of what sacrificing my look tonight you know okay hold
00:16:18.980 please okay let's let's take i have a lot to respond to okay by beat so one and by the way
00:16:24.160 this is also this is not me this is not me just tearing down dyson because they didn't send me a
00:16:28.280 free one let this be a warning to dyson oh that had the dyson arrived and i similarly would have
00:16:34.020 been honest about my review but let's just say we don't do a lot of negative reviews honestly
00:16:39.580 no we don't something sent us for free i think if we don't like it we kind of just we speak not of
00:16:45.520 it we speak not you forced me to buy something you forced me to pay a pocket you're gonna get
00:16:51.440 the truth and listen the dyson right clearly beautiful machine clearly a high-end hairdryer
00:16:57.500 for many people this is going to be excellent but again i found there it is you're trying to set us
00:17:03.060 up for more free stuff or something i couldn't believe it because i was drawing it going uh-oh
00:17:09.400 and then the rest of the day i was like i'm about to thank god i saved the packaging and then i
00:17:15.020 started to gently spiral going oh god but if i ripped this part of the box will they will i be
00:17:18.760 penalized i think i'm gonna have to do an in-person drop off i paid for it at blue mercury and again
00:17:23.060 I only used it once I'm going to give it or give her another shot today my god but I'm not kidding
00:17:27.780 if you bought it at blue mercury then that's great because then although I do hate that moment
00:17:33.680 of even when a return policy is good I just hate the I know when they look at you and their face
00:17:38.020 drops see when they check it over oh oh when they check it over I thought you meant when you're in
00:17:42.520 line and then you step forward and you go I have a return and their face drops oh it's never dropped
00:17:47.860 but i just intern yeah how do you feel about separate lines customer service area how do you
00:17:53.280 feel about that very very 60s i feel like that's gone i feel like that's a department store really
00:17:57.840 it feels like an old era well but bed bath and beyond i feel like they held to it forever
00:18:04.560 their main business is returns i feel like it's just a return emporium oh my god oh my god
00:18:10.180 right target has it too i was like i recently heard nordstrom has one of the best return
00:18:16.500 policies i was quite pleased baby well and now i'm going back to mad men and who is it someone
00:18:22.500 returns a chip and dip thing oh yeah when pete campbell goes to the chip and dip it's so beautiful
00:18:27.280 and he's in line talk about a show that just gets it done takes you into a world one of the best
00:18:35.640 that was ever made yeah you're fresh off it so well only the first couple seasons i have to go
00:18:40.380 back and do it do a deep rewatch yeah okay so talk to me okay talk to me because again you use
00:18:53.160 and enjoy the dyson all right a couple things one i want to review and you have gorgeous curls so
00:18:58.300 let's talk well i i don't actually i barely use it fascinating you know anyone who watches us or
00:19:05.380 or is in the curl community will probably say, 0.99
00:19:09.180 excuse me, you have waves, you whore. 1.00
00:19:12.340 Okay, to me, you know, not curls, whatever. 0.99
00:19:15.040 I mean, but, you know, these things are disputed,
00:19:17.820 but I just say that to let them know I know.
00:19:20.800 To me, you're a part of the curl community, but continue.
00:19:23.320 Thank you.
00:19:24.600 To me, it's all part of-
00:19:25.400 This is Ryder Strong,
00:19:26.480 and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.
00:19:29.160 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.
00:19:33.680 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune
00:19:38.200 It was hard to wrap your head around
00:19:39.460 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs
00:19:42.900 No, I am not your guru
00:19:46.480 And back then, I lied to my parents
00:19:49.300 I lied to police
00:19:50.560 I lied to everybody
00:19:51.680 There were years right where I could not say your name
00:19:54.680 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California
00:19:57.300 Interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists
00:20:00.240 Whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened
00:20:03.560 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend?
00:20:08.300 They have had this case for 30 years. 1.00
00:20:11.240 I'll teach you sons of bitches to come around here and my wife. 1.00
00:20:14.260 Boom, boom. 1.00
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00:20:55.160 The same sort of question, right?
00:20:57.540 It's like a wave is just a soft curl.
00:21:00.400 It's a different shape.
00:21:01.960 it's like but we're talking shape here once you're in that realm where you have to manage a
00:21:06.440 something that's yeah coiling in some capacity you're in the you're in the world so Kate's got
00:21:12.300 a diva curl dryer now I always was disturbed by the diva curl dryer because it is it looks kind
00:21:18.320 of like a hand yeah right now what confused me was it was this to me it seemed to be going against
00:21:24.860 everything diva curl stood for which was don't disturb the curl it was almost like a hand to
00:21:29.960 what rake through you know like but but now you actually make some sense and that that was able
00:21:34.400 to get it in there get it in sort of deeper to the root and you know what i'm flashing back
00:21:38.220 i'm having a flashback yeah i remember when i first bought the diva curl hairdryer and now
00:21:42.980 i'm realizing it was not it was not 15 years ago it's 10 years ago because i've been friends with
00:21:46.520 john early for 10 years early on the friendship i had this other diffuser and i remember the day
00:21:51.720 i switched to the new diffuser and i mentioned it to him i was something i was like oh i got
00:21:55.620 this new hairdryer and he was like or i don't know what happened but i've been using the new
00:21:59.400 diva curl hair dryer for a couple weeks and he said something he was like yeah the texture is
00:22:05.400 different now or he said something about the volume but he said it in a way not like preferring
00:22:10.840 the new volume he kind of suggested there was less volume and i remember the the sound of him
00:22:15.580 saying of him noticing it ricocheting through my skull and being so scared it's ricocheting
00:22:20.540 through mine 10 years later because i was like do i go back to my old my old classic diffuser
00:22:28.360 which was like a coffee mug like it was deep right like the dyson diffuser is shallow do you
00:22:33.760 know i'm saying your hair is not pouring not going into a vessel right although that's interesting
00:22:39.700 that you see i'm trying to i wonder what your old old diffuser was like was it huge it was quite
00:22:45.340 large because to me the dyson's um diffuser i mean i guess what i'm wondering is are you trying to
00:22:52.020 like stuff a third of your hair in at a time and there it is folks poor you there it is not using
00:23:00.420 it correctly human error today i'm going to i'm okay talk to me so by the way yes i think i'm
00:23:05.920 stuffing too much i almost maybe i had this kind of hostility toward the dyson like i was excited 0.59
00:23:10.740 for it but i was also like oh you think you're better than my old shit one like oh four times 0.95
00:23:15.540 the price tag yeah let me use you sort of sloppily and see if you come to me make you come to me yeah 0.96
00:23:20.480 work yeah and instead yeah so yes I think to your point I think I was stuffing too much hair
00:23:27.680 and I have a lot you know what I would you know it'd be fun you know it'd be fun for you
00:23:31.780 because you truly do diffuse so okay last week I teased the concept of plopping oh yeah you know
00:23:41.400 you got stuck on the vintage tea of it all okay I never got to truly demonstrate for the people
00:23:48.760 many know okay but and we'll throw a demonstration maybe on instagram what are we is that what we
00:23:54.300 are no we're artists forget it i wonder about i would love to try one of the air dry techniques
00:23:59.920 with your curls okay because it would be interesting to see how far it would get you
00:24:06.160 volume wise there's a couple interesting things about getting volume at the root
00:24:10.700 that are pretty compelling do you ever have the thing where your hair was parted in one direction
00:24:16.680 like or like I remember as a kid I went to the nurse's office because I thought something was
00:24:20.060 severely wrong with me like I flipped the part of my hair yeah and felt that like tender pain
00:24:24.860 oh yeah and was like what's wrong yeah and then you go and they're like your ponytail's too tight
00:24:30.020 or something I'm like no no no that I'm talking about something very a very strange sensation
00:24:33.860 when I flip the other way yeah no totally when it lays in one direction it kind of like causes
00:24:37.880 the whole root is like confused I don't know it's something like that but it's I think like when
00:24:42.360 you've really warmed up the head okay and the shower and the whole thing like obviously your
00:24:46.900 part is destroyed in the shower in it in a good way right so then it's almost like it's warm and
00:24:51.440 you got to set it right and that's why i think the going upside down stuff is real i always go
00:24:56.720 upside down going upside down from the moment you get out oh i see i see i see but then the plop
00:25:02.660 so the cause of the plop is that you you hang it all upside down and instead of tying it yeah
00:25:07.360 the classic 80s rap right it goes yeah the classic 80s rap oh wait wait wait it's like
00:25:13.600 goes like that i know i didn't know i didn't know i know i was trying to tell you last week
00:25:18.860 okay oh my god i'm plopping today oh my god it's it's life-changing listening is so key
00:25:25.500 constantly reminded the student is ready the teacher appears you know
00:25:31.780 meanwhile i try to barge my way in so yeah i'm really now i'm really excited to demonstrate but
00:25:37.780 it would almost be like you know if this is you you turn upside down right and then and then with
00:25:41.980 a t-shirt you just go oh amazing and it crunches up and then and then that's what's against your
00:25:47.060 head is the scrunch of a curl really cool unreal genius people are out there i don't love the word
00:25:53.480 plop okay i find that you know please if you're gonna if you're gonna create a term folks can
00:25:59.300 give one with some dignity yeah that's yeah you know it's just um who wants to say that kind of
00:26:05.100 word around particularly around beauty plop that is not a word for for beauty
00:26:10.980 i had a problem with and i feel like this was i don't know 99 2003 i'm not sure but the prevalence
00:26:20.440 of ionic okay the prevalence the the introduction and prevalence of ionic hair irons and dryers
00:26:28.440 they were like, the negative ions will smooth the hair cuticle. Okay. And they will, do you
00:26:35.000 remember this? And they will, and they will not damage the hair and they'll dry it sooner. And
00:26:39.740 I remember going like, okay, this is a new hair care thing. And then going and getting one of
00:26:44.960 them or whatever. And it felt like, like it was drying my hair in this limp way because we had
00:26:51.580 oriented ourselves to brutal kind of motor with just dry hot air and that's like all the styling
00:27:00.080 products were based on yeah you know utilizing those kinds of machines and so i just there was
00:27:04.580 a limpness to it and i went running back to my like you know what's a good hairdryer what there's
00:27:09.080 a couple well babyless who you know babyless no babyless baby l-i-s-s yeah you'd like find them
00:27:16.940 in ricky's you'd see them a lot in salons they're like better for their dollar amount but then you
00:27:22.680 know what one that really calls to me what the yellow one i feel like it's called like the yellow
00:27:26.700 bird or something no i don't know you might recognize it if you see it it's the very opposite
00:27:31.500 uh yellow hair dryer and don't get confused anyone and think i'm talking about i'm not talking about
00:27:37.160 dry bars okay i'm talking about oh here it is the yellow bird are you ready you see these in salons
00:27:42.400 and you're like they know something i don't know it does that look familiar to you nope
00:27:47.340 all right okay here's what i like here's what i like about the dyson i like the magnetic thing
00:27:53.920 although sometimes it pops off let's get real it's almost too gentle the mag safe magnetic
00:27:57.820 attachments i like that it's quiet sure it's pretty quiet you know what i'm so affected by
00:28:06.200 really quick volume yeah you go into a public restroom and they have the hand air dryer which 0.97
00:28:12.340 by the way has been proven to literally blast shit particles yeah all over everyone's nose face 0.98
00:28:18.240 and ears yeah all over your hands they are the most repulsive and yes we have to save paper but 0.99
00:28:22.660 also maybe don't blast shit into the open mouths of children find another way i mean like maybe 0.99
00:28:28.880 find a glass or a a guard a sneeze guard just something but but the violence of the volume 0.97
00:28:36.520 of the hair dryers something about it to me i have to run out of public restrooms when people
00:28:42.180 are using them i've i can't put my hands under them i the sound of it is so harsh to me do you
00:28:48.580 not have that when you're in there and someone's using it to me it's like it's like a train you're
00:28:52.940 like yeah it's it's so loud and horrible i guess i don't but i i certainly empathize with you i
00:29:02.580 have such a strong reaction to that and if i'm in the stall and someone's using them i put my hands
00:29:07.120 over my ears and I'm and I'm so hurt by it it feels really that's very interesting I don't know
00:29:13.500 why I have such a sensitivity anyway the silence of the Dyson you were saying yes it is quiet
00:29:17.740 and there's an elegance to the machine of course it's petite I mean it's um you know what it's not
00:29:24.780 light it is heavy it's heavy is it or is it just unexpectedly heavy for its um girth ding ding ding
00:29:32.720 ding i think that i love to please you yeah you look at it and you think technology innovation
00:29:40.340 and then you hold it and you go oh it's a little heavy you know it's hysterical the man at the top
00:29:47.200 right of dyson you know that man you know that man oh wait the vacuum guy is yeah peter dyson
00:29:53.820 yeah yeah yeah if he's not if his name's not peter it should be yeah yeah you know what i mean 0.94
00:30:00.520 have you ever seen more of a peter dick dyson would be dick dyson's his grandfather 0.99
00:30:07.020 dick dyson's his grandfather get dick dyson on the phone yeah dick dyson's sensational 1.00
00:30:14.360 dick whitman i'm having an affair i could see a house a woman don't say anything i have to tell 1.00
00:30:20.640 you something i'm having an affair with dick dyson oh can you imagine the name dick is has 1.00
00:30:28.260 always been intriguing to me dick whitman yeah you heard me say dick whitman a minute ago right 0.99
00:30:33.580 nope didn't hear it oh or about 15 seconds ago really see i believe in talking quietly under 0.98
00:30:39.000 you but like getting in a couple things that maybe might be useful no keep going keep going
00:30:44.560 i'm shutting up now no i didn't mean that that's i never shut up please i will dominate if you don't 0.51
00:30:51.500 no it's my own personal assessment my prescription for myself so wait you got a couple things one
00:30:58.060 should i go through my makeup bag because it's it's authentic and it's here i say it because
00:31:03.500 look at my makeup bag okay it's a ziploc folks whoa okay in a pinch that's what's happened do
00:31:10.640 you know how many i can't believe you don't even have the when that new ziploc came on the scene
00:31:16.260 maybe the late 90s okay let's talk about this this is a big deal that slider i was like are 0.66
00:31:23.020 you fucking kidding me and by the way are these ten dollars each how are you affording to put 0.72
00:31:28.040 this little the zip across the wait i have a i have something to say about that because the zips 0.97
00:31:33.900 to me another ziploc i almost i look at them and i you're shocked by the fact that i'm shocked that
00:31:39.680 you don't have the zip technology because a classic press a press seal no look sometimes
00:31:46.120 no well you know you know where the press seal is also big in like a chocolate covered anything
00:31:52.800 okay a chocolate covered almond a yogurt pretzel you get a press on seal and you don't even get
00:31:58.320 the visual cue zip across there is something moving to me okay and elegant about the fact
00:32:04.160 that it's blue and yellow okay and then you know you've got it closed when it's green when it's
00:32:10.220 green there is something to that you have to admit and look there goes it didn't work
00:32:14.160 ew see i look at i have to say i don't like that the green part i don't like the colors i don't
00:32:24.720 like you know what it feels like it feels like being far away from home it makes me feel like
00:32:29.420 i'm oh like i'm like i'm packing up it brings back like not wanting to go to sleepaway camp
00:32:34.660 or something it makes me feel like i'm really far away from my mom and that someone's not taking
00:32:39.860 care of me like when i see it's so visceral and the zip across makes me go i'm safe the zip across
00:32:47.020 goes i'm safe i'm held i'm having fun i'm i'm having fun on my trip i'm not i don't want to
00:32:52.180 go home i want to stay longer i'm brave great great consumer insight to send a ziploc
00:32:57.060 now there were these commercials way back when you know they'd fill it with water and hang it
00:33:03.180 upside down above someone's head or whatever yeah i'm gonna show how well it works but here's the
00:33:07.540 think have you ever okay have you ever pulled the zipper across yeah you're talking about the
00:33:12.560 technology the new technology well yeah classic new okay okay and you go you go you're pulling
00:33:19.080 across and it slides right off the end now now i want to talk about yes i have we've all been
00:33:24.420 scared now when that happened i asked myself feature or bug okay is that now sealed from the
00:33:33.580 gods because there's no mechanism of which to unzip it you're saying have you ever had it fly
00:33:41.440 right off yes when you're closing it yes okay usually when it's an off-brand when it's not
00:33:47.520 ziploc really yeah or you just wish that was the case no i've had some off-brand ziplocs with the
00:33:54.100 with the new technology and it flies off the end i'm just googling ziploc zipper flies off
00:34:00.040 okay and then it's useless you're saying and it's rendered useless i'm saying is that on purpose and
00:34:06.160 is it incredible now it's just a sealed piece of plastic do you see what i mean no one could come
00:34:10.600 in and undo it oh i see what you're saying i see i'm sorry i didn't understand it's like you've
00:34:15.660 done it and now you've done it you no longer have access to your own goods yes okay the true
00:34:21.120 sealing and protected from others it's like then you have to rip into it like an animal
00:34:25.360 through the heart exactly you'd have to claw in imagine there was food in there and you just
00:34:31.880 had to bite into it to get it out it'd be so delicious i don't know
00:34:35.860 no i mean in very particular circumstances i feel like there was a reveal something unexpected and
00:34:43.860 that's why it stuck with me something like that these are more secure the non-zip you mean the
00:34:50.000 original technology yeah like the original tech like you know they're like oh i believe that i
00:34:55.580 believe that no i believe that really so you prefer the security theater the security theater
00:35:02.300 of us yes i prefer the more cutting edge the speed with which you can close one of those bags
00:35:09.700 god i know is unparalleled and if you're in a pinch if you're in a hurry not even by the way
00:35:17.640 Even if you're not in a hurry, it just feels like we're safe and we're always going to
00:35:22.780 be safe.
00:35:23.720 No, to have a plastic tool, a plastic fixture.
00:35:27.980 Wait, but here's a question.
00:35:29.360 Is it truly closed until the zipper slid all the way off?
00:35:32.480 Do you see what I'm saying?
00:35:35.740 So not until it breaks are you safe.
00:35:38.620 But have you ever seen it opened by the grace of God?
00:35:42.440 Have you ever thrown a Ziploc with the new technology in a bag and then you wake up?
00:35:46.820 it's jostled around in there and then it's open never however the original technology
00:35:52.340 i feel invites invites human error you have to spend you have to go back you have to double
00:35:58.360 check you have to make sure god forbid there's like there are liquids in there i have an idea
00:36:03.480 i have an idea imagine listen imagine the ziploc imagine a ziploc bag with the new technology of
00:36:12.200 the slider okay yes imagine if the slider were on a string so you zip it across and then the slider
00:36:19.120 drops down yes knowing therefore you know therefore you know you've completed it you've truly
00:36:25.840 completed it right but then to open it you'd have to put the slider back on no it slides up from the
00:36:31.700 string it slides up it slides back up from the string it remounts yeah this is actually genius
00:36:39.620 and i i don't mean to say actually as though you know i mean in in reality dangling ziploc
00:36:44.760 i can barely breathe my breathing is so has been ravaged by by covid
00:36:49.860 zip so depressed well i guess what's confusing to me about ziploc right yeah correct me if i'm
00:36:57.260 wrong but it wasn't a zipper before it wasn't a zip lock oh no never and then they literally
00:37:04.540 woke up in a cold sweat and wait went oh my god zip we've promised them zips and we haven't given
00:37:08.740 it to them we promised them locks and we haven't given them to them i mean we've done nothing 0.92
00:37:13.960 a ziploc with a code imagine a ziploc bag with a code that's stupid no wait hold on let me think
00:37:21.440 about that for a second thumbprint no heat signature a retinal scan for a ziploc 0.68
00:37:28.500 wait let me think about this for a second because why does this bag work for me i have a question
00:37:34.780 I have a question you like yeah because I'm looking at you the makeup bag that's that
00:37:38.960 what is it about a makeup bag not a ziploc but like a reusable true semi-sturdy thing
00:37:49.180 cosmetics case of sorts what makes us hold on to them for years because I became so
00:37:55.500 attached to my makeup case it was made sticky from things from not even from being spilling
00:38:02.220 but just from years of use and abuse i would argue and and it was so like i hated it and then
00:38:11.480 we were gifted some bags which was very friendly oh those are sensational actually they're they're
00:38:16.800 beautiful and i was and then i from lucy corn i think yeah yeah and then i also at the barney's
00:38:23.320 when barney's was closing and i panicked and i needed to scoop up as many things as i could
00:38:28.220 with the barney logo on them right i got there was a barney's clear makeup bag that was like
00:38:33.060 original price 250 sale price 40 and i was like purchased instantly without any regard just from
00:38:40.440 the savings alone there's something about that that i don't even know if i like it but
00:38:45.700 i will hold on to it for years
00:38:47.760 there's an allegiance to a makeup bag that is kind of unlike anything else in life
00:39:01.160 yeah yeah let's take a minute with that so so i want to i want to just just take take us back
00:39:08.140 for one moment how did i arrive at because i have a series of makeup bags okay and toiletry kits
00:39:12.940 top kits as i as i oh my god the one that you had recently that i was on all fours for
00:39:18.640 so that flops down and different oh right oh my god hanging yeah if you can get yourself
00:39:24.880 one of those hanging toiletry bags for travel in fact i need that now like send me the link
00:39:30.080 for travel you hang it on this is rider strong and i have a new podcast called the red weather
00:39:34.700 it was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea in 1995 my neighbor anna trainer
00:39:42.860 disappeared from a commune it was hard to wrap your head around it was nature and trees and
00:39:47.840 praying and drugs no i am not your guru and back then i lied to my parents i lied to police i lied
00:39:57.320 to everybody there were years right where i could not say your name i've decided to go back to my
00:40:02.100 hometown in northern california interview my friends family talk to police journalists whomever
00:40:06.740 i can to try to find out what actually happened isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over
00:40:12.000 hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend they have had this case for 30 years i'll teach
00:40:17.880 you sons of to come around here and my wife boom boom this is the red weather listen to the red
00:40:25.640 weather on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts the shower or the
00:40:32.480 shower door i need that and i even have it right now hanging in my shower it's like the when the
00:40:38.440 home in the shower because it's actually I it's hanging off the shower rod because I didn't feel
00:40:44.660 like unpacking everything and I was like it's all in there so I'll just um I just stuck it there
00:40:50.160 no that go arriving at a hotel with that and unfurling it get me to a hotel unfurling it
00:40:57.160 access you can access everything and there's one I and it was one of those like I started
00:41:02.360 googling about I have a couple one that's more like like pretty and sort of soft and I've one
00:41:06.860 a little more utilitarian, both serve their purposes. But I just want to say, so I have
00:41:11.060 all these makeup bags, right? The reason this Ziploc is here and it's full is because what
00:41:15.260 happens is in a pinch, I might grab a Ziploc and throw in like four items that I've decided I need
00:41:21.640 for the evening. Okay. Like we're running over to whatever the theater. Okay. And then what happens
00:41:27.840 is I start adding more things to that because it's like, oh, that has the essentials. And then
00:41:32.300 you end up with this and thus what has happened is so over the course of like touring right it
00:41:37.620 sort of becomes a mess and then it's all in that bag so right now I have like six different makeup
00:41:41.320 bags you know and I'm leaving again this week and so I'm gonna have to sit down with all of it
00:41:45.720 and rework it do you separate makeup from skincare toiletries from skincare it's certainly when I'm
00:41:54.540 doing it right yeah yeah there it is I mean certainly but there there has to be a little
00:41:59.300 bit of crossover because you know if i'm bringing the makeup to the theater sorry you know you think
00:42:05.160 i don't want a moisturizer in there do you do your makeup at the theater are you joking this is
00:42:12.120 hysterical exclusively okay so this is wild i have never done my makeup for a show anywhere except
00:42:21.360 my private bathroom my hotel room wherever i'm coming from my home in fact there's something
00:42:26.340 about the and this occurred to me last week because i was going to my show and i was getting
00:42:30.160 there like an hour early and i was like i could just in this full vanity lights mirror of course
00:42:35.120 yeah i could just apply the makeup there wouldn't even dream of it oh my god no no explain it felt
00:42:43.580 so it immediately gave me anxiety the thought of it that you won't have everything you need or
00:42:48.320 that but also because i love putting on makeup i like getting ready i love to i like to have yes
00:42:55.040 My dream is to have a full hour to shower with the steam, moisturizing, music, playing, talking to myself, dreaming.
00:43:05.980 I think you're going to love dreaming.
00:43:07.600 Yeah, no, no, dreaming.
00:43:08.920 I think you're going to love my technique.
00:43:10.920 Okay, tell me.
00:43:12.260 I bring the clothes for the show and I change them there. 0.87
00:43:18.180 Now, that's mostly because I'm a slob.
00:43:19.660 okay and i can't be trusted with spills sip of coffee or anything spills etc you know there's
00:43:28.620 also the way things wrinkle when you're sitting in a car it's very specific i just i can't it's
00:43:32.980 a classic thing of the women on the way to the red carpet and the gowns completely reclined
00:43:37.980 reclines completely in the chair oh oh right right right they're delivered in coffins they're
00:43:43.260 delivered in coffins to the red carpet that is amazing yeah i mean that makes you go you know
00:43:51.140 they're in a full sarcophagus and then they're wheeled up and then they finally go upright
00:43:55.960 i like the i like them wheeled up and then it tips you know yeah they tips them out
00:44:02.800 and on they go yeah tips them slowly like it brings them to standing and they go
00:44:07.640 i always feel like unless you have a true you know wool suit right like classic cheap suiting 0.97
00:44:14.600 that someone has to wear to go to work yeah it always looks like shit in the back you know 0.96
00:44:19.420 like picture a pencil skirt made of whatever you know like getting getting out of there getting 0.95
00:44:25.440 out of car the thighs have been sweating in it it's like wrinkled the place where the little
00:44:29.400 slit is is like he's like folded up what's happening delivery sorry no i just looked out
00:44:34.020 my window let me guess someone is gonna see you podcasting and you're gonna be ashamed no no worse
00:44:40.900 a plant that i put out there that i've neglected for two weeks that is a doorknob no it's not dead
00:44:49.160 but it's the way it's bent over is one of the hardest things i've ever had to witness okay hold 0.98
00:44:54.440 on what kind of plant rubber rubber tree i'm such a fucking bitch i thought the whole thing with 0.99
00:45:01.160 those was that they were indestructible well apparently you can destroy them through cruelty 0.98
00:45:07.560 and i have okay i'm gonna remedy this i bet it can be brought back i've never seen its leaves
00:45:14.360 like this it's so upset it's actually when plants die when plants die in a way that feels
00:45:21.960 emotional and human when you kill a plant it was you that killed it there's no ambiguity
00:45:29.360 neglect death through neglect is like one of the most universally terrifying ideas right and so
00:45:36.500 yeah to feel yourself having neglected something well it's it's that um it's that kind of shame
00:45:44.800 it's that evil that it's the kind of evil that that isn't recognized as readily wow i just had
00:45:51.560 and i had a micro break a micro revelation this plan i had this allegiance to i'm like i've had 0.99
00:45:57.120 it for years because i have had it for like five years okay off with its fucking head i just had 0.68
00:46:02.980 this whole new thing i just had this whole i just had this new because it's not it's not lush it's 0.99
00:46:09.960 been a bastard the whole time i'm saying you know what rip it out plant a new one it's wait wait
00:46:15.840 wait it's not lush enough wait and then that one's not your fault no no it's my fault but 0.99
00:46:24.840 instead of my child i i abandoned my child right it's like okay so so you're gonna do that so i 0.91
00:46:31.520 fucked up but guess what what do i have to do i can just i get a new one and what i'm gonna water 0.93
00:46:40.680 this one today i want to nurse it back but here's the truth it's never going to be what i want it to 0.96
00:46:45.900 be and why make it live in the shadow of what i wish it were nurse it back to health i feel like
00:46:53.080 Don't. All right. Let me think about this. Hold on. No, I get it. OK, I have two dead
00:47:03.220 areca palms. OK, out back. So please don't confuse me for. OK, I really struggle.
00:47:12.040 Although there was one that I thought I killed this one tree and you would be shocked. You
00:47:17.980 would be shocked to see how it's blossomed again. And then I just killed it again because 0.79
00:47:21.700 i moved it back to the front i thought my neighbor was wrong like my neighbor was like it cannot live
00:47:26.240 in the sun like that it'll die and i'm like what am i gonna have an umbrella over a plant give a
00:47:31.120 plant its own shade like there's no shade back here so anyway it's i'm like great i've killed
00:47:35.360 it again how embarrassing but i'm like i know this this bad boy comes back i've seen it before
00:47:39.480 and i can do it again i'm like you're fine like a vampire i'm like anyway sorry so i have some
00:47:44.300 erica palms that are just sitting there and it's kind of like are these going to the trash or if
00:47:48.700 i trim them down to nothing will they come back i don't know i just think kate you owe it to
00:47:53.380 yourself in that plant i'm gonna give her another try listen i'm gonna water her down
00:47:57.720 i'm gonna see what happens why don't you google though if that's the thing because you are aware
00:48:05.420 and this is one of those things that i hate are you ready are you ready for this one i know you
00:48:08.740 know it i know you know it oh i can't i class over watering can kill as well starve the roots
00:48:14.120 starve the roots always okay you starve them of moisture so that then they they get used to not
00:48:19.940 needing not all plants oh no more abuse you just you starve them a little bit so you go careful 0.98
00:48:27.840 don't get too used to water let them know who's boss the fuck is his boss and then you give them 0.98
00:48:34.340 the water they go thank you thank you thank you they hold on to it more than they would if they 0.98
00:48:38.580 knew water was always on the way and yes i'm sort of making this up but there's something about
00:48:41.960 starving the roots a beautiful cruel woman once told me that you know I feel like you've really
00:48:47.160 you've locked into this phrase starving the roots like even if it weren't true anymore
00:48:51.640 you'll never let go because it's cadence over truth like starving the roots just sounds right
00:48:57.820 but starve the roots it varies and honestly I don't know how anyone is doing it without it
00:49:03.780 becoming a full-time hobby and I guess that is what it is for people how do you feel about
00:49:07.700 pepper at a restaurant served like salt not in a grinder but just you pick it up with your fingers
00:49:13.460 in a dish yeah it's very very um bourgeois perhaps i live in 1998 but i gotta say it feels good
00:49:22.620 it's pretty exciting those pepper grinders it feels good and i like that you can
00:49:28.700 that you can tighten or loosen it the crank and get smaller or bigger pieces of pepper
00:49:34.340 oh i love the crank but there's something disgusting you know i'm talking about right 0.97
00:49:38.960 okay hold on a second i'm about to wait are you fucking kidding me the crank at the top i'm about 0.99
00:49:45.120 to blow your fucking mind the spiral that that turns it's Lucy lefty Lucy righty tighty or 0.99
00:49:50.900 whatever yes no stop the little silver thing on the top of a pepper mill controls the sign 0.99
00:49:56.020 me too okay i i was taught this many many years ago by my cousin jack in a restaurant and i was
00:50:05.120 that doesn't do anything he's like it does are you in shock stop i'm sure there are some where
00:50:12.400 it's just decorative okay i'm sure but i don't even know exactly you thought it was a mirror
00:50:18.940 bolt we all did okay lefty lucy i thought it was a screw i thought it was a screw okay you're gonna
00:50:25.260 be shocked you have one lying around i imagine i love my pepper grinder let's see it bring it out
00:50:30.440 but it does one size it does one size i'm not saying it doesn't but i want to see it holy 0.84
00:50:35.660 shit people are going to lose their mind this is the best pepper grinder that you'll ever find okay 0.93
00:50:39.700 so the reason spell it okay i don't know can write can it's swiss honey k-u-h-n-r-i-k-o-n 0.99
00:50:50.400 you crank at the top it's so fun you put the pepper you put the whole kernels in there
00:50:54.920 it delivers a wonderfully coarse but not too coarse now yours right now yours because yours
00:51:01.000 yeah look at this there's something that's but adjustable no on the bottom
00:51:06.280 oh my god you're right yes there's a bolt of sorts i'm stunned at the very bottom almost
00:51:14.440 indisciperable look at that there's an arrow that says coarse and there's an arrow that says
00:51:18.940 fine
00:51:19.920 you guys
00:51:22.340 I didn't know I had this
00:51:23.960 no it's big
00:51:24.900 it's big
00:51:25.540 and you know it's wild
00:51:27.060 I just want to be
00:51:27.660 dead clear to everybody
00:51:28.800 because they don't
00:51:29.640 understand this
00:51:30.380 okay what's happening
00:51:31.120 I am
00:51:31.720 rocked
00:51:33.320 Kate's
00:51:33.840 rocked
00:51:34.900 Kate's
00:51:35.580 Kuhn Rakan 0.68
00:51:38.340 okay
00:51:38.760 I love it even more
00:51:39.680 I didn't know I could
00:51:40.220 love this more
00:51:40.860 Kate's Kubla Khan
00:51:42.380 pepper grinder 0.92
00:51:44.460 looks
00:51:45.100 now I got nervous
00:51:45.900 when she brought it out
00:51:46.680 because it's not
00:51:47.380 twisty on top
00:51:48.200 it's more of a lever right yeah it's a crank lever so i go oh no it's a crank it's a lever
00:51:54.520 and when you're cooking this thing whoa no and the fact that yours isn't even following the model
00:52:02.200 and yet it yet it has i cannot believe what i've learned i'm speechless
00:52:08.100 so when i saw that crank at the bottom by the way even you having just told me
00:52:14.080 the crank controls the grain i looked at it and i thought no it doesn't i still couldn't i was so
00:52:19.720 fixed it i was so fixed in the past knowledge right past knowledge is so hard the warm embrace
00:52:24.060 yeah of the past truths yeah i looked at it and go it's a screw i still i still i was sure i was
00:52:31.080 like the warm embrace of previous knowledge the warm embrace of the past truth it took me seeing
00:52:37.340 the actual words course fine to know i had that control and now that i know i have that control
00:52:42.760 well let me tell you cooking steak au poivre which i've been doing of course i mean i did it
00:52:46.740 twice but to me that's a lifestyle and interesting they asked for mortar and pestle because you got
00:52:54.080 to get those big chunky pieces of pepper to know that i possibly could have achieved that texture
00:53:01.120 through my own private mill using your kunikon instead i was like i was like a brutal i had to
00:53:06.160 put them in a ziploc smash with the back of a rock i don't have a mortar pestle oh smash it 0.78
00:53:12.620 back of a rock right away what do i use for that what do you use when you have to smash with
00:53:16.060 something sitting around jar i have a rock oh a literal rock i have an extra rock do you ever
00:53:23.380 smash at something in a ziploc and the the um yes the the grains of the thing actually bust through
00:53:29.680 yes i had that moment sticking for steak au poiv let's get real that's where ziploc
00:53:34.540 reveals itself can't do it can't do it honey no it can't handle a rock where i'm smashing
00:53:41.040 smashing smashing like thinking i'm doing this sort of pristine operation of like it's in the
00:53:45.560 ziploc safe and then you like lift up your rock and it's covered with salt or whatever you've 0.98
00:53:49.300 been smashing sorry i'm like i'm so rocked by the pepper culture wait so hold on wait will you spell 0.73
00:53:53.900 it one more time i like move so fast but k-u-h-k-u-h-n-r-i-k-o-n and i want people i might
00:54:02.200 re-download instagram just to i would love to see if people either own this and love it or if
00:54:06.720 they're reaching out to buy it and i would love the company to of course reach out directly
00:54:10.420 yeah i would uh we'd love i don't want a new one though that's the truth i love and honey i've had
00:54:15.620 this for years well what about me kate well absolutely about you and look it's just it's
00:54:20.040 right there i think they come in all colors you can get a second one and you can gift it to a
00:54:24.500 cousin i would love that or have a second one that's for travel and when i'm talking about
00:54:29.860 travel is that i mean going renting an airbnb for a couple days going somewhere where you're
00:54:35.100 gonna cook for a couple days do you trust the pepper and salt in someone's airbnbs uh no
00:54:40.560 salt people people with salt they don't care and there's like and by the way i myself just started
00:54:49.860 really like kosher salt versus sea salt kosher salt is like you know much more salty it takes a
00:54:56.180 lot less of it to get that tang i think that's again surface area isn't it because it's smaller
00:55:01.580 bits remember when i mentioned surface area last week about ice cubes and i was wondering if you
00:55:06.460 were really clocking it or not because it's i don't think i understand it feels like geometry
00:55:11.000 and i start to kind of get upset yeah you shut down surface area just means when you could
00:55:15.780 surface stay open okay let me try yeah so let me here's what they taught us okay and i found kind
00:55:22.420 of like conceptually interesting don't panic i can feel the door closing but i'm trying to keep
00:55:26.440 it open yeah there's no okay just listen to me okay so just going fast no i can't go in fast
00:55:33.180 you're gonna breathe and stay with me okay all right here we go baby here we go okay you know
00:55:37.940 the big old ice cube the big square ice cube for a whiskey okay for a craft cocktail yes yeah yeah
00:55:43.660 when they give you one big one why do they do it yummy it melts it melts slowly yes okay slower
00:55:51.740 right because if you were to cocktail hour yeah if you were to unroll that thing that the surface
00:55:57.600 that's touching the liquid what melts it right is like three by three inches okay no it's more
00:56:04.020 no i mean whatever size it is okay okay okay if you could run your hand over the entire
00:56:09.600 sides of the cube okay right how much how much ice is touching liquid the liquid right some amount
00:56:16.340 yeah now smash that same ice more liquids touching into a bunch of bits more liquids touching what
00:56:21.420 yes what have i learned now you've increased surface area because now you have all these
00:56:26.200 little ones okay okay see that's the confusing thing see this is interesting that's what's
00:56:31.720 always confused me about material materiality oh god yes oh my god wait wait what is it i'm
00:56:37.300 remembering something okay okay here it is if you take oh i love this i know where you're going
00:56:42.740 a huge okay no i don't think you do it'd be amazing if you did the space between the space
00:56:46.980 between uh uh micro particles that if you take the whole world and you remove the space between
00:56:51.960 the atoms no no no no no i was talking about this picture a huge loaf of unbelievable foamy
00:56:59.960 fermented heavenly sourdough bread imagine if you rip out the heart of the sourdough not foamy but
00:57:06.360 imagine if you rip out the the heart and then you you pat it down you squeeze it down to be smaller
00:57:13.400 okay okay and let's just say you eat it because i remember when i was younger i used to love
00:57:18.440 to take bread soft bread like that like challah me trying to inject my judaism you know challah
00:57:24.780 by the way first thought that came to mind wonder bread but because like wonder bread challah that
00:57:29.160 kind of texture you squeeze it into a ball disgusting okay this is gross no absolutely 0.95
00:57:34.200 disgusting i'm shocked are you disgusting if you take the heart of a loaf smash it have you eaten 0.95
00:57:42.380 that much or have you eaten the whole loaf both we're the same okay because all you've done is 0.99
00:57:53.060 remove the air but what is it though is it the whole loaf okay yeah wait so kate okay wait let
00:58:00.240 me take this let me take it like this way okay okay you pull out everything but the crust kind
00:58:05.040 of right uh-huh everything but the edge that's what you're saying right yes and it's big innards
00:58:09.000 fragrant of course okay you got this big puppy thing now what makes bread delicious
00:58:13.100 right it's a problem when it's too dead it's full full of air here's a better way of looking at it
00:58:19.300 a croissant okay it's the air that's that's what you're missing take a croissant crunch it into a
00:58:25.660 tiny ball which you know you could do all the air comes flying out most delicious scent you
00:58:29.560 have ever smelled tiny little ball you eat that you're like have i eaten a croissant or a tiny
00:58:34.360 ball the innards you've eaten the same thing do you see the air oh baby this is the best thing
00:58:44.980 i've ever heard in my life yeah and kate guess what yeah i've tried that okay it is the croissant
00:58:49.220 barely yeah yeah well all you're really doing think of it this way all you're doing
00:58:54.060 consuming it faster the air so is that did you eat a loaf of bread so okay hang on there's like
00:59:00.700 another example of this imagine you take a whole pizza and you fold it
00:59:04.060 relatedly okay if you go down to really small you know i'm gonna get this a little bit off but like
00:59:17.920 molecules or maybe it's atoms themselves the space between the like nanoparticles or something
00:59:24.520 is so much that if you removed that empty space like the entirety of the world would fit inside
00:59:28.740 a single grain of sand it's something literally like that oh my god by the way this is for next
00:59:35.880 week i want to talk about fusion cold fusion fusion is like the new energy source or it's not
00:59:41.880 new it's like ancient technology whatever well that's why i said cold fusion because isn't that
00:59:45.880 the whole thing it's about molecules and basically it's like our dependence on oil would like go away
00:59:52.080 overnight you could power huge cities with a generator the size of like a bus everything
00:59:56.320 would be perfect but the big companies will kill it because there's no money in it but we could
00:59:59.980 all be free but we can't be the idea that we're gonna hit fusion next week nuclear fusion is one
01:00:07.360 step closer with new ai breakthrough fusion power is a proposed form of power generation that would
01:00:13.000 generate electricity by using heat from nuclear fusion reactions in a fusion process two lighter
01:00:19.100 atomic blah blah blah this that and the other thing that's just when it was getting interesting
01:00:27.860 do you want to hear a peek behind this the curtain of poog admin that i think is humorous and that
01:00:34.520 people should know about let's go we get emails constantly from public relations companies oh
01:00:40.080 yeah representing the client okay and these people are being paid folks oh yeah by their client
01:00:44.600 handsomely okay and they go hey we're big fans of poog and we think so and so would just be your
01:00:53.260 perfect next guest exactly wow do the research kids do the research and i just write back thanks
01:01:01.060 so much never had a guest never had a guest there's been a few people early on and poog people
01:01:07.420 will be like guess which makes sense because they've replied they've they'll come back asking
01:01:11.900 again early on it makes sense because it's the assumption is guests are coming right it's been
01:01:16.900 four years i mean it's been a long time with food now the guests aren't coming and we've always said
01:01:21.940 or at least sorry we've always said personally i said if gwyneth wants to come on
01:01:25.740 we'll consider it right she's the only one owed yeah she's a doll i bet you'll come on
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