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00:02:39.400 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:40.880 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:02:41.940 And this is Pug, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

00:02:46.680 Two untameable intellects.

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00:02:53.900 Today's topic, loosely speaking, clawfoot, ribs, minestrone.

00:03:03.540 Good morning, San Diego.

00:03:05.380 Were you able to watch Brother B yet?

00:03:08.400 Wait, what is that?

00:03:10.600 The Peacock Show.

00:03:11.320 Yeah, sorry.

00:03:12.080 Wait, I thought it was called FUF.

00:03:15.000 I've been calling it FOF in our texts to try to like raise the intensity of

00:03:20.340 like me trying to get you to watch a friend of the family.

00:03:23.020 It's hideous.

00:03:23.940 It's hideous.

00:03:24.800 And I'm not even sure if I recommend it like in that way.

00:03:26.760 Like,

00:03:27.060 but,

00:03:27.300 but I do want to discuss it.

00:03:29.120 Okay.

00:03:29.300 By the way,

00:03:29.660 you said on the podcast,

00:03:31.240 you recommended it to me.

00:03:32.540 I was in Toronto.

00:03:34.500 I had this moment.

00:03:36.060 I actually talked about this in therapy.

00:03:38.040 I got into the hotel and I was like,

00:03:40.040 I'm going to order room service.

00:03:42.020 Um,

00:03:42.720 God,

00:03:43.040 God.

00:03:43.180 I don't want to,

00:03:43.540 this is just a caveat

00:03:44.860 I want to say

00:03:45.180 the job was paying

00:03:46.280 for my incidentals

00:03:47.200 which is unheard of

00:03:48.180 so room service

00:03:49.360 free

00:03:50.100 because normally

00:03:50.540 I'd be like

00:03:50.880 I guess I'll just have

00:03:51.980 the minestrone

00:03:52.660 and the arugula

00:03:53.620 you know

00:03:54.480 like I wouldn't dare

00:03:55.820 get a hot mane

00:03:56.600 because it's like

00:03:57.160 $86.94

00:03:59.000 anyway

00:04:00.160 I was like

00:04:00.820 I'm going to order

00:04:01.120 room service

00:04:01.760 I'm going to take a bath

00:04:02.860 get in my robe

00:04:04.200 and I'm going to watch

00:04:05.500 the most recent episode

00:04:06.600 of White Lotus

00:04:07.220 or that peacock show

00:04:09.040 Jacqueline recommended

00:04:09.800 oh my god

00:04:11.280 so brace yourself

00:04:12.720 brace yourself

00:04:13.520 because imagining there's something really cozy about being inside your head in that way like

00:04:17.100 that show Jacqueline recommended I don't know I love it I was there in the hotel room with you

00:04:20.880 you were absolutely and I have six questions about everything you said so far so so so brace

00:04:24.800 yourself brace yourself Canada you can't get Hulu you can't get HBO Max you can't get a peacock

00:04:32.820 so I I regressed yeah and I was I immediately texted I think you I texted like three people

00:04:40.180 I was like, Canada's third world.

00:04:41.660 There's no HBO Max here.

00:04:43.160 There's no, again, I love Canada.

00:04:44.740 Just kidding, guys.

00:04:45.800 But I just was like, I was so disturbed.

00:04:48.200 And I think what I talked about in therapy

00:04:50.100 is I was like, I couldn't believe

00:04:51.340 how my emotional state plummeted.

00:04:54.280 And suddenly I felt like a tragic character

00:04:58.180 in an old timey novel.

00:05:02.800 I felt like I had been thrown into the street

00:05:04.680 and I had to self-soothe.

00:05:06.840 So I was like, go take the bath.

00:05:07.900 So how'd you do it?

00:05:08.780 I took a bath.

00:05:09.520 I took a bath

00:05:11.700 and the hotel room was gorgeous

00:05:13.380 it was one of the nicest hotel rooms I've ever been put up in

00:05:15.900 and I was like

00:05:17.180 just sink into the gratitude of this moment

00:05:19.620 and instead I realized I was exhausted

00:05:22.020 and I watched some of The Crown and passed out

00:05:23.760 but it was very

00:05:24.900 now how were you able to watch The Crown?

00:05:28.020 on my personal iPad Netflix

00:05:30.140 so they have Netflix but it's different

00:05:31.760 it's not like you can get every Netflix show

00:05:33.420 I have a couple things to say

00:05:36.400 so I just want to also express solidarity

00:05:38.020 streaming solidarity

00:05:39.420 for our comrades in Canada.

00:05:42.200 Oh, I see.

00:05:44.780 Because, yeah.

00:05:46.620 I watched, and then you know what I did?

00:05:48.500 When I got back to LA,

00:05:50.800 I thought I was going to watch

00:05:51.920 the Peacock show that you recommended.

00:05:53.540 Instead, I watched three hours

00:05:55.860 of the Kardashians.

00:05:57.360 Right.

00:05:57.700 And dreamt about shapewear.

00:05:59.380 Shapewear was in my dreams.

00:06:00.960 I dream about shapewear near nightly

00:06:02.400 at this point.

00:06:03.560 I've never had shapewear.

00:06:04.740 I want to talk about that too.

00:06:05.820 I want to course it.

00:06:06.720 It's actually really,

00:06:07.880 it is wild the like,

00:06:09.220 i was like i'm gonna have a rib removed like i was like the way that there that there's something

00:06:14.520 i mean i'm not dare i you know i'm late to the game what am i going to do offer cultural

00:06:18.660 criticism on the kardashians and like the political site of their bodies onto which

00:06:22.920 yeah yeah we onto which yeah it's always on for me but no i wasn't implying it

00:06:28.800 i actually was implying that onto which is a kind of academic it's like a sentence structure that

00:06:36.880 It just implies academia.

00:06:38.280 Oh, it's one of my go-to's.

00:06:39.000 Also humiliating.

00:06:40.020 Anytime I say academia, I'm humiliated and thrilled.

00:06:44.060 Okay, so wait.

00:06:44.740 I want to pivot wildly.

00:06:45.780 I feel like there's a lot to say.

00:06:46.900 Okay, but I just want to talk about the bath, the shapewear.

00:06:49.060 Really?

00:06:49.560 Okay.

00:06:50.000 And FOF.

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00:06:51.580 I can't wear shapewear.

00:06:52.760 I don't wear, I haven't worn Spanx or anything like that in 4,000 years.

00:06:56.320 Also, because it's like, it creates so much pain.

00:06:58.860 Like, I don't have the stomach for it.

00:07:00.240 It hurts, no?

00:07:01.100 At the end of the night, even like if you wear a control top tight at the end of the night.

00:07:04.120 Well, I think you don't have the stomach for it.

00:07:05.380 it's really the joke no but don't you doesn't it hurt it hurts no it depends I mean

00:07:12.500 well a couple things one I received an email from Spanx okay promoting a new product okay

00:07:24.740 I open it up it looks like this flowy super comfortable this isn't going where you think

00:07:30.640 flowy spanks okay this is flowy super comfortable like hangout wear loungewear casual loungewear 0.77

00:07:36.980 just cozy comfortable lounge set okay not like like the freaking free people one that that you

00:07:43.020 wore and which by the way due to my indecision they are completely out i cannot get one now

00:07:48.880 okay so anyway we're gonna get it for you okay so i see this and i go okay now this is interesting 0.99

00:07:58.040 you're telling me like i'm just wearing a loose thin flowy lounge pant but whatever the ass is 0.61

00:08:07.400 lifted okay you're telling me i'm like this is intriguing because this is the ultimate no makeup 0.70

00:08:12.180 makeup of shapewear right but what are they going to do here under this sweatshirt a little sweatshirt

00:08:17.880 yeah it's like a sweatshirt i'm like what could they possibly do under there i go to the set i

00:08:21.980 click through i'm like i don't even know why i necessarily want this but i'm intrigued i'm like

00:08:25.540 tell me the science yeah help i'm combing through the details there's no shape we're in it 0.92

00:08:31.500 yeah it's just it's just loungewear fucking loungewear yeah of course yeah yeah okay uh 0.85

00:08:39.060 guys yeah you know what i mean switch companies yeah like nice try like yeah i mean i don't know 0.94

00:08:46.820 what this because i'm really gonna say like well i guess this is what i would say because i immediately

00:08:50.980 start to in my mind work for the company i'd be like if you trust us to cinch you in to have the

00:08:55.520 science to sense you in then wouldn't you trust that the same side of that coin would be we have

00:09:00.100 the science to create ultimate relaxation right right right okay like somehow even more comfortable

00:09:05.680 than regular lounge pants right that i can't i couldn't find a single feature about these other

00:09:11.000 than you don't have to leave the spank site to get your casual wear now not impressed but but it was

00:09:17.280 humorous to me to be combing through desperately looking for what it was going to do for me and

00:09:22.340 finding nothing do you know what i mean of course okay that was a shock okay second the hotel bath

00:09:29.000 i a dedicated bathtub which i was in the dedicated bathtub and i thought

00:09:34.400 i've always had in my mind like well that's a life dream for me is to have a dedicated bathtub

00:09:40.420 right that is not the thing you shower in separate right because i i mean ideally let's get real

00:09:45.380 some kind of freestanding vessel is the dream exactly well that's what i mean the freestanding

00:09:50.100 vessel in the center of your bed and i was in there and i was like i mean this is unbelievable

00:09:55.100 yes here's a question was it a modern vessel because now now for a long time i you know the

00:10:01.560 clawfoot was everything right that's the retro that's actually not my dream anymore right it's

00:10:06.040 it's become too mason jar okay it's because i don't actually believe that you want the form of

00:10:11.460 because here's what this was it was so 90s in a way that i loved where there's a huge it's like

00:10:15.320 a huge block of marble right yes and then it's cut out the tub and you know what that offers to 0.52

00:10:20.840 yeah a fucking shelf i'm talking about what six inches meaning so if this were in your home you 0.86

00:10:27.860 could load the products there the candles there a thick jug a thick jug you could have anything 0.99

00:10:33.820 jug okay a liter maybe not a gallon on there but actually i would argue you could get a gallon on

00:10:40.580 there this was a huge you don't need full coverage on the bottom for it to balance you just need

00:10:44.800 the majority of its center of weight one of my favorite things is to drink cold water in a hot

00:10:49.440 bath wow oh yeah so I was in there and I thought oh my god I felt like a I had this fantasy of

00:10:57.260 being a successful news anchor who was like well I have to go to bed at 7 p.m because I have to be

00:11:02.260 up at 3 to have my makeup done to be on air at 5 okay and I was like windows I could floor to

00:11:08.240 ceiling windows in Manhattan okay you have no life okay because because you're up every day at

00:11:14.660 four yeah but but you're rich for that same reason okay yeah and i've seen this in television shows

00:11:21.760 these characters do you know i'm talking about they get up they plunge their face into ice which

00:11:26.340 by the way because i have the fantasy of my bathroom of my dreams which has like joan crawford

00:11:32.520 the bathroom refrigerator under the sink where in there is excuse me yeah so i think joan crawford

00:11:40.500 had it what's in there like an alcoholic and needed to have like vodka on the rocks every 20 1.00

00:11:44.300 minutes or something but like you don't want to go running back to the kitchen with wet feet yeah 0.98

00:11:49.040 it's a thing of like the bathroom cocktail hour I think but damn fridge fridge I mean what in 0.99

00:11:55.560 what movie is it but it's like is it mommy dearest she takes a fucking bowl of ice out of her 0.98

00:12:01.160 bathroom fridge plunges her face into it and so I had I dream of that now and imagine you 0.96

00:12:07.280 into the hard rocks of the ice or does she then fill it with water yeah yeah um heaven and and

00:12:15.640 i'll say another thing that that was really i watched cribs when i was however old and pamela

00:12:20.260 anderson had a chandelier over her bathtub that's actually no longer a dream because i think i would

00:12:24.200 fear of it plunging into the bath yeah constantly but i just remember that represented ultimate 0.99

00:12:28.620 femininity to me and slicing you via a thousand um crystal wounds my fixation which which way 0.99

00:12:35.020 would you rather go all right sorry electrocution or a thousand wounds a thousand baby cuts from 1.00

00:12:42.700 your crystal chandelier slicing you I guess I'd go for that no oh sorry just that just conjured 0.88

00:12:50.360 in my dream I cut myself and it was like a slice like I accidentally sliced my hand open

00:12:54.640 forgot to write that in my dream journal in my dream last night the moths were back okay side

00:13:00.820 no continue wait again in my dream no but but i'm just saying how has it been two weeks and

00:13:06.920 have they returned or have you ever used guess what sloppily the poison of them off it was

00:13:11.980 absolutely correct so i have they're going to come back in a couple months they don't come back until

00:13:15.700 like and since they did that i've seen two moths total so i went from like all those moths down to

00:13:23.480 two that i've seen well we're moving in the right direction so thank you so just when i go to the

00:13:28.980 hotel room yeah there can be a texture inside a tub and it's fairies okay i've been in really

00:13:38.860 nice hotel rooms that have a bath and that are gorgeous and if you were to send like a photo 0.72

00:13:44.520 like holy shit you're not gonna believe this look at this bathroom it would it would look grand 0.91

00:13:48.760 but then you go over like all i say is do you have the courage to take a piece of toilet paper 0.99

00:13:54.980 your finger wet it drag it in the bathtub lift it up and look uh-oh do you see what i'm saying

00:14:03.340 because here's the thing like i know no and the answer is what level is the cleaning

00:14:07.780 on a tub this felt very clean yeah but i and i was again emotional because i couldn't access

00:14:14.700 the streaming services i anticipated accessing so i just filled it up by the way i'll let the

00:14:20.040 water run and I'll wash I'll take my hand and kind of just a quick pass nothing serious yeah

00:14:25.140 yeah it's more it's more like mental performance yeah it's more of a mental thing although I do

00:14:29.060 think at least you're like getting a layer of dust if it's if it's sat there you can kind of

00:14:32.500 dust is the least I assume there's a layer of piss and cum no like of course always because 0.88

00:14:39.140 you know I was talking about this I just am like I'm bathing and like people's cum probably a 0.58

00:14:43.660 little bit right now but also I'm like aren't we all like I eat at restaurants aren't we all

00:14:48.280 restaurants are like you actually have to really let go um to be in a hotel room of some some

00:14:58.280 issues like you have to you have to suspend disbelief you know what i mean like in terms of

00:15:03.860 worrying about cleanliness or getting repulsed i mean here's the thing like here's where i go with

00:15:08.920 the bath right yeah you know people you know what what a bath once was was filthy right like

00:15:18.240 people share it hey you know the next kid gets in the bath water like i'm talking like you know

00:15:22.740 the the single trough in the 1800s okay like yeah the fact that there was soap in there and water

00:15:28.600 there could clean you it wasn't about the tub being clean the vessel right um or even the water

00:15:35.420 within it it was like yeah the dirt comes off one after the next you know what i mean by by being in

00:15:39.680 that so sometimes i can get into the spirit and i had to in the spirit in new york where you know

00:15:45.480 the the the mildew or the whatever the filthy grout okay in my new york apartment

00:15:52.240 obviously that was where we showered i mean it's everything right i would take baths in there and

00:15:57.960 i would get into this spirit like this kind of new york spirit like it's like fill it up

00:16:02.920 dump the bubbles in this is this is where you need this is where bubble bath reigns supreme

00:16:07.920 i'll say okay there's not you're not even going to be assaulted by a single one of your own hairs

00:16:13.300 floating past you you can't even see it okay yeah so bubble bath fill it up get in and then i try to

00:16:20.380 have this like like like new york spirit like i'm terry gar okay in a movie yeah my feet up and then

00:16:26.920 like i'm like it's almost like i should have a cigarette like it's a different mentality about

00:16:31.600 the tub and you get into the dirty tub filled with fresh bubbles and it's like it's fine like

00:16:38.060 it's it's like yeah yeah this is it you know aiming for the pristine is an unwinnable battle

00:16:45.420 I don't know I don't know it's tough out there

00:16:49.660 it's really tough out there and I don't know how we do it all of us

00:17:01.600 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.

00:17:05.420 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.

00:17:10.760 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune.

00:17:14.600 It was hard to wrap your head around.

00:17:15.940 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

00:17:19.560 No, I am not your guru.

00:17:23.340 And back then, I lied to my parents.

00:17:25.980 I lied to police.

00:17:27.240 I lied to everybody.

00:17:28.020 There were years, Ryder, where I could not say your name.

00:17:31.020 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,

00:17:33.900 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,

00:17:36.720 whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.

00:17:40.060 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods

00:17:42.980 and not the obvious boyfriend?

00:17:44.660 They have had this case for 30 years. 0.98

00:17:47.580 I'll teach you sons of **** to come around here and my wife. 0.97

00:17:50.620 Boom, boom. 0.99

00:17:51.920 This is The Red Weather.

00:17:54.940 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app,

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00:18:19.520 I want to introduce you to Sylvia.

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00:18:33.140 Is badness hereditary?

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00:18:37.240 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived,

00:18:40.100 she wouldn't have died on that fatal night.

00:18:43.020 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,

00:18:44.760 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.

00:18:47.780 I'm not too intimidated by her.

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00:20:32.540 When you feel uncomfortable, what do you put on?

00:20:35.520 Biggie.

00:20:36.300 You put on Biggie when you feel uncomfortable?

00:20:37.740 Because I want to get confident.

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00:21:39.360 I am back on absolutely refusing to engage with social media at the rate that I have been

00:21:48.260 because I cannot continue down this path

00:21:52.440 because it will lead only to the devastation

00:21:55.880 of my life and of myself.

00:21:59.620 And the last couple of weeks, it's this simple.

00:22:02.300 And I've been down this road before.

00:22:03.960 You take it off your phone.

00:22:05.220 I haven't had Instagram on my phone.

00:22:07.220 Twitter is of course like the last gasps

00:22:09.460 or whatever, who cares?

00:22:11.340 Thank God.

00:22:12.700 Yeah, but Instagram-

00:22:14.320 The blue of Twitter sinks into the ocean.

00:22:15.380 I just don't have it on there.

00:22:16.500 And I have such vitriolic rage for it now that I,

00:22:21.700 and okay,

00:22:22.020 this,

00:22:22.280 and this is a major accomplishment.

00:22:23.580 I just want to say,

00:22:24.120 cause I had a couple of travel days and that's when the Instagram you're

00:22:27.100 just,

00:22:27.640 and I allow myself like,

00:22:28.560 well my God,

00:22:28.900 I'm just going to scroll for six hours cause it's hell to be.

00:22:31.420 I didn't look once on social media,

00:22:33.420 two days of full travel.

00:22:34.500 And that was a huge,

00:22:36.560 huge.

00:22:37.140 You cannot make,

00:22:38.140 if you make the airport about,

00:22:39.500 about Instagram,

00:22:41.000 like if you may make the dead time during travel about that,

00:22:44.160 like and you say you're tired after travel i ask why i wonder what well it's so interesting you

00:22:49.960 should say that jacqueline because i didn't look i hadn't looked at social media for days

00:22:53.680 i didn't look at it when i was traveling and then i landed this is a true first went for a 0.74

00:23:01.060 fucking walk can you imagine landed i had been up at i mean i woke up it wasn't that bad i woke up 0.99

00:23:06.240 at seven you got home and went out got home after a five and a half hour flight and i took a cock 0.99

00:23:11.640 sucking walk. I drink a liter of water. I gave home, ate salmon. I ate salmon. I watched three 0.98

00:23:19.080 hours of the Kardashians, jerked off, went to sleep. It was a perfect, I couldn't believe it.

00:23:24.440 And I was like, this is health. Oh, I left this out. I read a little bit of my book. That's right.

00:23:29.580 Wow. I've basically read a book in the last two weeks because, and I want to say something,

00:23:34.140 the first couple of days of off social media, open the book, almost checked it across the room

00:23:38.380 because I couldn't, the brain, no, my brain was so atrophied swiping at the page. Yeah. Yeah. It

00:23:44.080 was hellish. And then suddenly I'm in, I'm in, I'm in the, where are the ads? Where are the ads?

00:23:49.240 I want the ads. That'd be me. Where are my little friends? Are my little friends in here? It was

00:23:53.140 like, absolutely. And, and, and I, I swear to God it has to change now. And I, and I can't do it

00:24:01.620 anymore. And so it just, but you don't have a, you don't have the disease of scrolling the way I do.

00:24:07.260 you don't engage with it no because i it's like i cannot my mood i don't have the constitution

00:24:13.900 for it okay i simply like i know how bad and quickly bad it can be for me that i have started

00:24:21.720 a private um tamley account for myself what the hell is tamley tamley is tracy anderson method

00:24:28.960 family okay okay got it okay so i started a private um which none of you will be able to

00:24:36.860 find or access no one knows no one knows no not a single person in my life if you were to go to

00:24:43.900 their account could you find that they follow me okay okay got it um and and there's nothing

00:24:50.740 identifying so I started it so that I could have a curated feed of only sort of Tracy Anderson

00:24:56.640 accounts okay it started that way okay so I could open up Instagram and just see you know the other

00:25:03.300 folks in the community doing that week's exercise commenting on it whatever okay it's great yeah

00:25:07.600 it's like when the workout's over and i still want more okay what can i do imbibe content about it so

00:25:14.940 and there's there's benefits to it whatever checking form etc then so it starts like that

00:25:20.620 i'm like because oh because i would go to instagram to look for a specific thing like about

00:25:26.080 like the tracy anderson workout that week or something and immediately you know see other

00:25:31.000 stuff and get scrolling and go what happened to the last 10 minutes and go why did I come here

00:25:34.960 I never open Instagram casually I always open with a specific purpose and then immediately

00:25:39.880 see something and then and then forget okay it happens yeah so so that's my thing for that I

00:25:44.880 start I start the thing I start the account and it's it's interesting um I'm like hey I'm like

00:25:52.000 writing a bio yeah like the name is like has like a Tracy Anderson like in in joke reference okay

00:25:57.840 and i'm like i'm just here so when i request to follow like well now you can find me i guess

00:26:03.700 if i say what my bio is i'll have to instantly change it but i'm like just see they are they're

00:26:07.340 all the same they'll kind of i'm like so when i request to follow your privates like accounts

00:26:11.660 you know you know i'm tamalee wow okay so you look somber you know i think you you know what it is

00:26:24.040 i got confused oh really i don't know why no i mean maybe this is boring

00:26:33.520 okay um i think it's outrageous i started a private account i i don't know i think you

00:26:43.320 should be entertained by that i i guess no i think it's cool and i think that your approach

00:26:47.300 is the only approach and i posted two things specific just so they know i think it's great

00:26:52.300 just so they know and then i decided okay actually this can just be a place where i curate the

00:26:58.360 bullshit that i want to look at like the sort of wellness related whatever like put the glucose

00:27:04.000 goddess in here so this is so now it's like my little feed of you know wellness like you know 0.96

00:27:11.400 what i mean like skincare might drop in there i don't want to be like i like i follow some skincare

00:27:15.960 account or a makeup brand and it's like what to come across that content i have to be forced

00:27:20.680 through friends like to see friends accomplishments like no you know what i mean why right right right

00:27:26.160 right like get the direct feed to the interest so i can't i can't well i i can't do it anymore 0.85

00:27:31.680 and i i think you know i just i can't fucking do it anymore and and but why not you might want to 0.85

00:27:39.440 consider starting something curated that's just for your own pleasure well i can't here's the thing 0.88

00:27:43.720 i can't just get off obviously i'm not going to completely get off social media i just

00:27:47.880 like

00:27:48.760 I'm thinking

00:27:50.300 what I might do

00:27:50.920 is have one day a week

00:27:52.160 that I'm allowed to check it

00:27:53.120 like it might be like

00:27:53.880 Wednesday's a check day

00:27:54.760 and it doesn't mean

00:27:55.740 I check for 13 hours

00:27:56.940 to get in there

00:27:57.880 check the check 0.99

00:27:58.800 and get the fuck out 0.99

00:28:00.480 because 0.99

00:28:01.600 the full

00:28:02.520 cold turkey

00:28:03.420 I've done that right

00:28:04.320 for months on end

00:28:04.980 where I don't look once

00:28:05.820 and then when I'm back

00:28:06.600 I relapse full

00:28:07.500 but let me

00:28:08.080 I know you have a tendency

00:28:10.640 to be interested

00:28:11.560 we need 12 step

00:28:12.300 for social media

00:28:13.000 I've been saying this for years

00:28:13.860 and this is so 0.97

00:28:15.480 it's so fucking depressing 0.95

00:28:16.740 I just 0.94

00:28:17.160 whatever

00:28:17.480 oh god help me I'm not gonna and this is what I resent I resent the talking about how upsetting

00:28:23.220 social media addiction is and that it's actually it's completely destroyed the world and our

00:28:26.880 relationship to each other and ourselves I hate that that's become the cliche yeah I know it's

00:28:30.980 bad but god I just can't look away can I look at us over here we're all we're all robots now

00:28:36.020 right it's like cool well well we are or whatever right cool yeah and good good job

00:28:42.380 i'm just not convinced anymore i i've convinced myself that oh social media but then i found that

00:28:49.520 fabulous recipe for that tabbouli on there well that's where i'm saying that's how i saw and it's

00:28:54.760 like no but i'm just like actually not convinced anymore i'm like no i would have been fine without

00:28:57.880 it i've actually i don't think i've seen hardly ever a good idea dispelled on social media

00:29:02.600 okay hold on no i mean i mean it's i could it's a strong statement but wait wait i mean

00:29:07.620 I know, and I don't –

00:29:08.900 And it's enjoyable, okay?

00:29:10.080 But wait, I need to take a second because I need to understand with you, you say social media, and I always assume that because you're such a social animal, you know, with all your friends, okay, always up on what's going on.

00:29:22.580 Like, you know, you leave New York for two weeks, like, what's happening in New York?

00:29:25.520 Who's the top dog?

00:29:28.320 Okay.

00:29:28.980 Yeah.

00:29:30.040 You know, like, you have this sort of, what's going on in the biz, okay?

00:29:34.900 Yeah, yeah.

00:29:35.680 Like, that part of you.

00:29:36.780 and um and you know cigar in the in the wet room you and me right getting a lap dance yeah

00:29:43.780 yeah so so i always assume your social media addiction is purely about people people you know

00:29:53.160 people uh in the biz whatever like that yeah it's all that that's the primary i didn't think tabouli

00:30:00.780 recipes were the issue and that's why i'm saying what if you had a curated feed of course are not

00:30:06.180 the issue that's what I justify I don't know I justify in so curate the feed you're not hearing

00:30:13.020 me what I should have is no feed a different account no no account you just said I'm gonna

00:30:20.220 do Wednesday check day no other day am I allowed and it's hard because with my my show coming up

00:30:27.320 going back to New York to do the show by the way if you're in New York I have two Christmas Eve

00:30:32.280 shows and just get in there two o'clock and six o'clock can you imagine what it'd be like to

00:30:37.520 spend there with your family oh it'd be incredible okay anyway and also okay anyway I will say that

00:30:43.380 I have a show on the um the 20th and 21st yeah honey 20 21st at Bell House doing get on your 0.93

00:30:50.960 knees oh so I'll see you in New York bitch also I will say I'll be in December 10th at Largo 0.97

00:30:56.820 performing 1.00

00:30:57.560 get on your knees

00:30:58.920 so see you there 0.99

00:30:59.860 damn it 0.99

00:31:01.420 I would love to come 0.99

00:31:02.060 but I'm leaving

00:31:02.520 I'm leaving

00:31:03.220 okay anyway

00:31:03.980 the point is

00:31:05.020 who cares

00:31:05.340 I'm gonna see the show 0.99

00:31:06.780 she really really does

00:31:08.240 okay so anyway

00:31:08.980 I'm gonna back off this

00:31:09.940 I'm not gonna talk about this anymore

00:31:11.020 on social media

00:31:11.500 but I hate it

00:31:12.060 I'm gonna commit to the Wednesday check day

00:31:13.600 I have to experiment with that

00:31:15.180 and I just wanna say that

00:31:16.780 we have to take back our lives

00:31:19.340 what about Friday night

00:31:20.480 I just feel like Wednesday

00:31:21.420 can be disruptive

00:31:22.140 oh I got excited

00:31:23.000 by the way

00:31:23.340 I got excited

00:31:23.860 because I thought you were talking about plans

00:31:24.960 I thought you were going

00:31:26.080 what about Friday night

00:31:26.800 I thought that was coming

00:31:29.200 Well I have like four days left

00:31:32.200 No I know you're on deadline

00:31:33.640 And I think you should let us go out

00:31:35.880 After that to celebrate

00:31:37.280 I wonder if we'll get

00:31:40.320 A homecoming at JAR

00:31:41.920 I mean I wonder if we'll get a hero's welcome

00:31:43.820 Oh we will

00:31:45.040 If you think I'm not doing serious work ahead of the reservation

00:31:48.020 I want to say something 1.00

00:31:49.280 Lattes are a glass of milk

00:31:51.080 And that is why it's hard for me

00:31:53.880 To perk up around a latte

00:31:56.200 what well you know when i remember the cafe the cafe fredo or no sorry the fredo lot the latte

00:32:02.640 fredo and the guy was like that's a glass of milk no like literally there's not even coffee in it

00:32:06.820 it's a cold milk this was in it wait jacqueline yes in back to the hotel quickly i have had two

00:32:14.200 in kawaii i call it kia love ya and then the other day in toronto i have been brought to my knees

00:32:21.000 by the nespresso nespresso machine okay so listen to me listen to me okay there

00:32:25.560 and I need to talk where it was going. I need to talk. I need to talk to people because this is

00:32:30.140 welcome. Okay. Cause I want to say something. I have stopped. I've turned up my nose. I know

00:32:35.080 turned my nose up at the Nespresso machine and I continue to, because of the amount of waste it

00:32:40.420 generates, feel sick to my stomach about the pods and all of that. I don't, I don't really know how

00:32:46.860 to get around that. I'll be honest, but, and I've also felt it was a godless pursuit, the pressing

00:32:51.300 As I screamed welcome

00:32:54.760 No but Jacqueline

00:32:55.920 You might have to scream welcome

00:32:58.200 Because I was so

00:32:59.940 I went to the Nespresso website

00:33:02.700 They're of course on sale due to the holiday season

00:33:04.700 And I started to get

00:33:06.160 Really

00:33:07.760 Titillated 1.00

00:33:10.180 All I'll say is do not fuck around 1.00

00:33:12.260 With some of the new fangled 1.00

00:33:14.760 Ones on the site

00:33:16.140 Which are the ones that have bigger pods

00:33:18.300 You want to go classic

00:33:19.460 you don't want pixie pixie's the one that's like a full cup they do a carafe even like what the 0.98

00:33:22.980 fuck is that no no pixie's i think pixie is the pods are bigger fix no oh little pixie no i'm 0.98

00:33:29.240 pretty sure the pixie is the little machine that is like in a lot of hotel rooms okay the point is 0.99

00:33:33.960 you want you essentially i believe want the one that's in the hotel rooms okay it looks like that

00:33:38.660 it looks like a single arcing narrow barn okay now i say this you want the barn and you can get

00:33:45.260 the metal barn okay but but i say this because i went for it and at one point and got some weird

00:33:51.420 ass collab with delonghi or whatever okay and it was the one that hooks up to your you know your

00:33:57.980 smartphone if you can still believe they say that what's the purpose of that there were screens and

00:34:02.580 it i can't remember okay but but i thought okay this one's going to be cutting edge for for

00:34:08.800 various reasons i mean it it simply did not work okay you want the old standby you want the crank

00:34:15.820 i can't believe what you want a machine with two buttons on top a hand crank now now there is a

00:34:23.200 learning curve in one moment and i don't know if you experienced it okay yeah when you close it

00:34:27.840 it seems like if you try to shove the pot in like let me really get the pot in there into the right

00:34:34.820 position so that it'll go down okay it won't happen and it'll ruin you you actually gently

00:34:40.200 drop the pot in it it rests there lightly and almost seems like it's gonna be wrong then you

00:34:45.580 start to pull the crank it feels like no no there's there was a resistance you want that

00:34:49.180 resistance and then boom okay down and that thing is locked in Jacqueline I and I really want to ask

00:34:54.160 the community about this because I deep down think I won't take the plunge because something about it

00:34:59.080 just really depresses me i was looking at the website because they were like like the recycling

00:35:05.520 program or whatever and it's like yeah what and then they're like here's this big bag we'll give

00:35:10.300 you drop the pods in there and all you have to do is drop them off at an espresso like location 0.99

00:35:15.540 like store it's kind of like fuck i gotta fucking trek my ass in the car to do do you know what i 0.99

00:35:23.380 mean like yes like what's wrong with these pods and then and then jack then i hate to say it but 1.00

00:35:27.920 I went further and I thought, what's going on here?

00:35:30.300 Am I like drinking plastic?

00:35:31.900 Do you know what I mean?

00:35:32.300 Like the heat and on the whole thing.

00:35:33.860 I was like, I need to look into this and be like,

00:35:35.700 is this even like for daily habits?

00:35:38.360 Is this even sustainable on the health?

00:35:39.980 Espresso pods.

00:35:42.960 Organic capsules for an espresso.

00:35:45.100 Okay.

00:35:45.560 I would only do organic.

00:35:46.740 You have to go organic coffee.

00:35:48.980 Eco pod coffee, infinitely reusable coffee pods.

00:35:52.920 It's there.

00:35:53.660 Okay.

00:35:53.760 I'm going to look into it.

00:35:55.200 Yeah.

00:35:56.120 I just, I don't know.

00:35:57.420 I don't know.

00:35:57.760 I don't know

00:35:58.120 I don't know

00:35:58.460 I don't know

00:35:58.860 no no

00:35:59.400 but for a moment

00:36:00.780 let's revel in the joy

00:36:01.920 that moment

00:36:02.420 when I woke up

00:36:03.100 and by the way

00:36:03.440 for early mornings

00:36:04.120 I'm talking about early mornings

00:36:04.960 when I had to wake up

00:36:06.440 two days

00:36:06.820 like one at six

00:36:07.500 one at seven

00:36:07.980 pressing the button

00:36:09.020 there it is 0.99

00:36:10.100 and it's fucking good coffee 0.99

00:36:11.520 and then I got into bed 0.99

00:36:12.520 I was like

00:36:13.180 oh no

00:36:14.820 I believe it's become a hotel

00:36:16.340 I believe it's a hotel standard

00:36:17.780 I believe it's required now

00:36:19.160 absolutely

00:36:19.660 by the way

00:36:20.080 there was a second

00:36:20.740 when I got to the hotel

00:36:21.820 I went 0.99

00:36:22.020 where the fuck 0.99

00:36:23.780 was it in one of those drawers 0.99

00:36:25.060 it was tucked away

00:36:26.620 was it in one of those drawers

00:36:27.240 The room was huge, I have to say. It was tucked away in an area I hadn't seen.

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00:41:09.780 i'm back in the advanced lane in my tracy anderson workouts and it's a it's a goddamn 0.98

00:41:20.640 thrill i had a moment where chris said holy shit your foot your leg has been in the air 0.98

00:41:25.080 for like five minutes and i was so fucking proud okay the power of being witnessed 0.99

00:41:30.800 like at this point i'm like pushing a part of the couch aside to make sure he is full of you 0.71

00:41:36.180 wow while i'm working out because like like i was like because i was devastated that he missed

00:41:42.760 like a section where i where i was doing a full roles like like a tumble i still have to i still

00:41:47.780 have to experience tracy anderson and watch you do it i've been i have um so in my social media

00:41:52.600 break and in my turn toward my interiority and myself yeah um and we only build self-esteem

00:41:58.420 through esteemable acts okay so let's not forget that well you know what that reminds me of stephen

00:42:04.140 covey's principle okay of the of the of integrity yeah okay and and the bank account okay the like

00:42:11.020 interior bank account making a deposit into the integrity bank account like is like when you say

00:42:16.420 you're going to do something like to yourself and then you do it you've made a deposit okay

00:42:20.740 when you say you're going to do something you don't you leak oh you leak and you lose 0.91

00:42:27.360 self-respect i fucking believe it too no i no it's true and that's one of the classic you know 0.94

00:42:33.160 reparenting things is like you make a promise to yourself and you do it so here's all i can do 0.99

00:42:37.300 because here's the thing i overshoot right i'm gonna not be on social media no you're not bitch 0.91

00:42:42.400 just just bring it down even if you cut down your time by 50 60 that'd be huge 40 i can only commit 0.96

00:42:49.520 to 15 minutes of exercise a day that's all i'm capable of fully committing to committing and 0.89

00:42:54.320 guess what not losing i did it jacqueline this is a huge breakthrough i did a fucking 15 minute 0.95

00:43:01.240 Melissa Healthwood 0.96

00:43:03.320 in the hotel room

00:43:04.760 a day after shooting.

00:43:06.440 There it is.

00:43:07.020 I did a standing series.

00:43:08.120 She has videos

00:43:08.820 where you can just be like,

00:43:09.760 if all you need is like a chair

00:43:10.840 or a solid surface,

00:43:11.960 like a counter. 0.99

00:43:13.060 Fucking did it. 1.00

00:43:14.420 I will say Tracy Anderson 0.99

00:43:15.700 offers a standing series,

00:43:17.000 new one every single week.

00:43:18.080 Okay, great.

00:43:18.680 But listen,

00:43:19.420 I like that Melissa would.

00:43:20.680 I'm going to make sure

00:43:20.960 we're sending business

00:43:21.640 where it belongs.

00:43:21.680 I like that she has 15 minute ones.

00:43:23.700 You know?

00:43:24.000 Nothing.

00:43:24.360 I mean, not against Melissa.

00:43:25.620 I just mean equally.

00:43:27.040 No, no.

00:43:27.500 Fab, fab.

00:43:28.180 Equally.

00:43:28.740 Okay, and then I'm going to

00:43:29.960 pivot to something huge. 0.97

00:43:31.240 which is that I have been fucking gua shying my face for, 0.98

00:43:36.340 I'd say eight days. 0.98

00:43:38.580 I'm here to tell you it's real.

00:43:43.800 How I have seen.

00:43:45.460 Okay.

00:43:46.220 Okay.

00:43:46.840 Okay.

00:43:48.000 I'm convinced.

00:43:49.260 And this is the thing about skincare.

00:43:50.800 So I think I've been saying on the podcast,

00:43:52.540 I've been a little broken,

00:43:53.420 broken out lately,

00:43:54.200 kind of consistently.

00:43:55.340 And this is the hell of like,

00:43:56.860 we never know what it is.

00:43:57.720 Why is my skin this last week,

00:43:59.380 but the best it's been in months and months is it the daily gua sha and i repeat the daily gua sha

00:44:04.860 and when how the circulation or what circulation protocols because then i looked up and i was like

00:44:11.440 oh people gua sha for acne to promote circulation and to move fluid around and i'm like are you 0.65

00:44:16.740 fucking kidding me right now because i you thought it was all shape i thought it was all shape and 0.80

00:44:22.620 whatever yeah and here's what i'm here to say it feels good it actually feels relaxing and you know 0.99

00:44:28.360 how we talk about oh meditation whatever gouache has meditation you fucks if you're there and 0.86

00:44:33.580 you're breathing and you're doing it of course like but i just but no i mean though because 0.95

00:44:38.000 dr dispensa for example okay yeah okay okay you know he has these meditations and then you know

00:44:43.560 it's all about you know and then like people get up and you know they immediately go unconscious

00:44:47.700 okay when they they stand up for their meditation like it's over you know what i mean like now they

00:44:52.500 go back to unconsciousness essentially through their day so he has these walking meditations

00:44:55.880 that are kind of like supposed to help you bridge the gap oh my god you know what i mean and i've

00:45:00.020 always felt like i can soar inside of my body if i'm completely still but like watch me try to

00:45:06.180 you know pick up a piece of paper after i drop it on the floor right right or like you know the

00:45:11.300 kind of ideas they're like well you bring on the mat bring to the mat like you know reflects in

00:45:15.360 the rest of your life or whatever and it's like yeah but you gotta it doesn't automatically reflect

00:45:22.700 I mean maybe it does

00:45:24.340 do you know what I'm saying

00:45:25.900 to bring the practice into your life

00:45:28.460 for real

00:45:29.140 do you ever realize there's a room

00:45:31.760 that you're never conscious in

00:45:33.280 it's like oh have I ever

00:45:36.500 been truly conscious

00:45:37.980 I guess I'm trying to think

00:45:39.480 I was reading some James Hollis the other day

00:45:42.760 and you know he says

00:45:44.020 this is a Jungian thing

00:45:45.960 well most of life is just a desperate attempt

00:45:48.580 to escape being present with ourselves 0.99

00:45:50.160 because it's fucking hell 0.97

00:45:52.160 right and to be naked before to run from the shadow to be like naked before the universe like 0.97

00:45:56.780 like you know the hardest fantasy the hardest fantasy to relinquish is you know that there's 0.73

00:46:02.140 someone's gonna save us and you know take us away from this pain or whatever the fuck yeah um but 0.61

00:46:07.920 but shadow work shadow work time cool glad i completely lost what i was gonna say um no you 0.64

00:46:15.700 were reading holos the other day i was talking about people going going unconscious in a room

00:46:18.920 i was like oh wait have i ever once been conscious in ralph's you know what i mean for example like

00:46:24.740 realizing like like their entire space is that just completely consume you with you know

00:46:30.020 anyway i mean i think that's why i have to rehabilitate from social media addiction

00:46:35.680 because no i'm perhaps i interrupted you and that's no it's fine no no i'm fine by the way

00:46:41.780 i'm using this stick this right now as you can see what is that what is that the josie moran

00:46:45.660 you have one as well they gave us different things i don't have that oh i think i remember

00:46:50.380 that which is an interesting technique you know you know my grandmother used to feel this thing

00:46:54.520 like once she got something for my cousin that she didn't get from me and it was like it was

00:46:58.240 like a shit show yeah yeah like like and so then it was like every time i don't know if that's what 0.92

00:47:02.720 it was but it was like every time like you know get the pair of socks for rachel you gotta go in 0.96

00:47:06.680 for jack one whatever right and and uh yeah it's an it's an interesting technique to send you and

00:47:14.520 me different things. And they try to do it. By the way, Barbara Sturm, lover. Oh, here's something

00:47:19.840 to say. So, you know, I've been saving the Sturm for possibly 13 years. I haven't opened Sturm

00:47:24.160 either. I broke into the night serum. I've been using it. Oh, is that what's making my skin so

00:47:29.800 great? Right? This is the problem. This is the problem. Controls, experiments, controls. This

00:47:35.380 is the problem. You decide like in one week to pull it all together. So you're taking a vitamin,

00:47:39.480 your gua sha you're doing it all you never know what did what and then you drop every habit

00:47:45.020 and the gua sha though i'm i don't have the ability i'm convinced that i and again this is 0.99

00:47:53.060 absolutely no judgment no nothing against botox filler i don't give a fucking shit what anyone 0.91

00:47:58.520 does yeah but i'm really trying to avoid all needles and i convinced myself i was like yeah 0.97

00:48:04.960 If I gua sha and I humidify and I, and I have God in my fucking heart, I can, I can beat this thing. 0.56

00:48:16.940 I can, I can, you know, and I can do the red light. 0.94

00:48:21.440 So I texted you beat this thing, meaning aging or, or exactly.

00:48:24.800 I didn't mean to beat the thing.

00:48:25.700 I just mean, I just meant I can have, I can age.

00:48:29.800 I can, cause I don't fear wrinkles.

00:48:31.680 I'm like, yeah, do it.

00:48:32.680 right it's like I just I just I'm convinced I'm convinced that I can gua sha a line I don't that

00:48:39.400 is bothering me off my face or that you know just you um you wade into the ocean full acceptance and 0.67

00:48:44.920 you become you know one with the fucking krill or whatever but the thing is that I the red light 0.97

00:48:52.020 therapy also yeah I like that thank you um it was krill it's a very yeah I the red light unit which 0.99

00:49:02.220 we have we have beautiful red light units and you're the one that's the biggest thing i want

00:49:06.240 to talk three times a week three times a week red light therapy penetrating the skin boosting

00:49:10.560 collagen all right okay all right so last night i went down a path you sent me a an instagram

00:49:15.600 okay thing where a guy said where a guy said um in terms of skincare right he was like yeah

00:49:22.940 literally like you're doing everything but this is the thing okay now now it's a little bit

00:49:28.000 complex and so it scares some people away but okay but we we do have units that are very

00:49:32.680 very good light path unit okay it's light path led i believe let me just make sure that was our

00:49:38.840 first major poog gift light path led so much respect to light com okay and his devices are

00:49:46.960 robust okay and i just it's satisfying to know because there's there's a lot out there and

00:49:53.000 satisfying to know you have a quality product so start with that i think poog might get you

00:49:57.320 a percentage off as a code i think the code's poog anyway good try so red light i want to just i

00:50:05.600 want to say it quick and i'll say it fast okay because it's hard and i'll forget within a week

00:50:09.420 but it's like you've got the led lights yes that's a thing okay that only penetrates so much but that

00:50:14.860 does do certain things cosmetically just classic red light visibly red then okay you move up the

00:50:20.380 spectrum so let's say that's at 600 whatever per whatever's right then you move up the spectrum

00:50:24.600 into the 800s, et cetera.

00:50:26.080 I think that's where you go into near infrared.

00:50:28.680 That penetrates deeper, okay?

00:50:30.480 And it makes more mitochondria,

00:50:32.780 does something with, you know, all that, okay?

00:50:34.580 Then you keep going up the spectrum,

00:50:37.120 you actually arrive at infrared,

00:50:38.280 which I think is just heat, like my infrared heater.

00:50:41.680 Okay, so it's all, you know, the wavelengths and whatever.

00:50:44.180 It can get a little complex, but all I'll say is this.

00:50:48.040 So it has a few terms, PBLM, photobiolight modulation,

00:50:52.800 something like that, right?

00:50:54.100 It's got another term, LLT, low laser, low level laser therapy, okay?

00:51:01.980 Yeah.

00:51:02.220 It's got all these, so low level laser therapy.

00:51:04.440 Okay.

00:51:04.920 The research is endless.

00:51:06.200 Just go, okay, search NHB, health, whatever.

00:51:09.640 All right, just go, go, go, right?

00:51:12.640 You also sent me a device you were excited about.

00:51:16.340 I think it was called the LIMA, L-Y-M-A.

00:51:19.100 The red light thing?

00:51:19.880 Yeah.

00:51:20.540 It was advertised to me on Instagram and I thought, huh.

00:51:22.780 Well, yeah.

00:51:23.260 and it's very impressive now it says no it no i mean at first i mean first glance right it's it's

00:51:28.960 a little wand with with and now what's interesting is they go like the first at-home laser proven to

00:51:35.420 blah blah blah blah blah okay yeah and i go let me look at this i click through like let's see

00:51:40.220 what's going on okay i scroll down to the details and it is a combination of red light and near

00:51:47.180 infrared light okay now cool i go kate you have a unit at home i have a big one okay a serious one

00:51:55.140 you just need to i think put your face pretty close it's all about time and there's a formula

00:52:00.300 of time they give it a little blackout things for your eyes even though there was some research

00:52:04.860 about very light sensitive benefits to that okay but i just thought it was really interesting that

00:52:09.900 lima is trying to capitalize on the association of laser because we think of laser as the most

00:52:16.420 brutal painful you know needle burning thing in in the derm's office when this is painless even

00:52:24.220 like we have the what is that thing that other laser we have um we have a laser that pokes you

00:52:30.560 and hurts you like a like a traditional one remember you did it to the back of my hand and

00:52:33.700 i screamed yeah and i was convinced for like two days that it's still burned yeah okay and i love

00:52:40.340 it and i'm like whatever but and i forget what the lime even cost and yes i still want it okay

00:52:45.840 but they're like move it across your face and and and i'm like not sure but i'm pretty sure we can

00:52:51.600 get our entire face and chest with the light path with the light path led close up in a matter of a

00:52:58.680 few minutes last night i was going section by section of my body it's like it's like there's

00:53:03.020 the feeling is honestly there's nothing it can't do that that's that's the feeling because there's

00:53:07.500 also a cascading effect there's a cascading yeah quadrant by quadrant so so if it does this thing

00:53:13.020 to the cells three inches into your body then those cells have some kind of impact on the cells

00:53:19.880 next to it shut up and it keeps going okay have you fully spread in front of it yes because because

00:53:28.880 not not not so much as a goal to for for anything vulvic but to try to get at the belly okay

00:53:36.340 because people stand in front of it and it is supposed to encourage the metabolism of of the 0.92

00:53:43.880 belly fat fucking rules okay and so i go i go well it's blasting everywhere i go it's blasting 0.97

00:53:49.440 everywhere it can't hurt i'm getting it plugged in i'm plugging it and i'm doing it yeah stop 0.99

00:53:53.560 fucking around um enough is i was thinking we should have it blasting on us casually while 0.94

00:53:58.180 we're um at least from some angle while we're recording that'll give us an hour a week 0.99

00:54:02.140 oh my god front of the television yes i went through a period in front of the television nude

00:54:07.420 peering over it just blasting the entirety of me there's nothing can't do read the research

00:54:13.540 okay i'm all right i want to also pivot to another product that we both have been using

00:54:18.280 and i'm about to re-up i'm about to buy my third the fend and i just want to say well to fend

00:54:23.440 i've bought so many so here's my question to you so last night i was at a party that 0.99

00:54:30.660 fucking sucked my cock off i really listen i that sounds like it was a great party yeah i have a 1.00

00:54:37.760 certain edge to me today i'm sure the listeners can feel it i um went to a slammed packed party 1.00

00:54:43.640 and i love a party i actually love parties and i'm here to say i don't recall an invite

00:54:49.040 all right go on the point is and i was there and it was like i got a little covid freaked a little

00:54:58.020 flu season cold season freaked i was like i was like i'm not gonna be around my parents for a few

00:55:03.020 days after this just to kind of i had fended that night so fend for anyone who doesn't know it's

00:55:08.800 this little thing they change their um device now yeah and you you press down what is it's like

00:55:15.140 sodium chloride yes but it's in such a level of micro mist or something like it's so micro

00:55:20.600 that it like clings to every spot in your respiratory tract or whatever or at least

00:55:26.740 through the nasal passages and whatever and it yeah and it for like six hours reduces the ability

00:55:32.440 of virus or whatever to cling to enter and to exit as in infect and to exit which is you know

00:55:38.160 and so i was fending religiously twice a day through my entire first run of my show

00:55:44.340 and i just have to say and again is it is it what is it well i've fended on the road you know across

00:55:50.380 multiple cities flying fending the whole way religiously every like four hours and yeah never

00:55:57.140 got covid there whoa never so by the way i think this is definitely securing us some fends in the

00:56:03.520 mail maybe i won't buy my own um and by the way they're like 30 bucks 28 bucks for 30 day supply

00:56:09.100 yes spritz spritz on the way out the door i feel my nasal passages feel naked naked without it

00:56:14.100 you know where i have it dashboard on my bathroom countertop so like brush my teeth wash my face

00:56:19.580 fend yeah this is an ad that you can't keep them in i keep them in every pocket at this point so i

00:56:25.360 so for travel i can't go rooting around right so i got i have one in my i'll say it fanny pack and

00:56:31.800 by the way topo designs i'm gonna need some gifts the hell is that so topo designs and also um tom

00:56:41.660 bean okay are the two bag companies that i've that i at times lost over on their sites i think it's

00:56:48.800 b-i-h-n they're they're like it's backpacks it's fanny packs it's it's everything in between and 0.56

00:56:55.440 i and when i when i was about to travel i got really into where all my shit was gonna go 0.98

00:57:01.880 the fanny pack thing is really important to me in terms of airport okay i need it all in one spot

00:57:08.060 reachable i cannot be again digging a hand in searching it's all gotta be right there passport

00:57:13.740 you know the whole thing and fend fend is one of the key items that i ensure i do it multiple

00:57:19.040 times in the airport okay yeah they say i guess the fend website or whatever it's like three times

00:57:23.740 a day it's like morning afternoon evening i prefer the six hour modulation i think because

00:57:28.160 oh i just well i don't wear it in my home unless i just feel like a spritz you know what i mean

00:57:34.200 no yeah i do it it's like i'm heading out spritz deep inhale each nostril well last night when i

00:57:40.140 was at that party i was like well talk about a stocking stuffer but oh and by the way i say that

00:57:44.960 not to imply okay that it is cheap okay but i mean like it's fully it's not a wooden dreidel

00:57:52.480 okay okay it's fully something you could also give as a gift okay however i i get a thrill

00:57:59.660 as does my mother in putting things in the stocking that are unexpectedly

00:58:04.680 high-end high-end or or solid almost could be their own gift oh wow stockings

00:58:12.760 god it's almost here christmas is almost here i better start i better start putting you know

00:58:18.020 that i don't receive christmas presents and i'll just let that sadness kind of linger there

00:58:24.100 just to say what happened to you as a child the bacchanalia well that's the thing so as a child

00:58:29.860 I was spoiled so

00:58:31.540 like the bacchanalia of my Christmas morning

00:58:33.980 that it's almost like

00:58:35.380 the gifts that I received as a child

00:58:37.020 need to sustain me through adulthood and it's fine

00:58:39.660 no that's okay I'm not like why aren't your parents

00:58:41.960 creating

00:58:42.540 you hear the sadness in my voice though

00:58:44.740 but you wake up Christmas morning

00:58:47.040 you give a gift to them

00:58:48.520 yes

00:58:49.620 and that's that

00:58:53.340 nothing from your mother

00:58:55.820 I'm honestly shocked

00:58:56.920 No, I say it's because your mother has a Christmas tree up for like six months.

00:59:00.360 No, because my mom is like, yeah, yeah, the most, you know, ultimate hostess, all these things, so gracious.

00:59:05.180 By the way, if she heard this, and maybe she will, she would like call me like, not weeping, but she'd be like, oh God.

00:59:12.320 Because like, for example, here's what's funny.

00:59:13.620 The other day she gave me a present.

00:59:15.200 She gave me this really cute like dark green emerald gloves for winter.

00:59:20.180 I wish you saved this for Christmas morning, Ma.

00:59:22.220 Well, no, even better, she goes, it's a birthday present.

00:59:24.860 And birthday's in July.

00:59:25.480 it's november she's like it's a birthday present and i went no it's not and that's fine it's a

00:59:32.980 present that's great thank you but because she's like i didn't get you a birthday gift and it's

00:59:37.640 like it's fine that kind of just ended like the gifts ended i love i get her presence absolutely

00:59:43.920 but i have a pretty i don't i have a pretty but i guess i was jealous you talking about the high

00:59:48.560 stocking stuff where i was like damn i guess i just high end was your word it's it's a little 0.96

00:59:53.140 bit less about like holy shit there's 0.98

00:59:55.100 whatever it's more like okay 0.99

00:59:56.960 like my mom she's unbelievable

00:59:59.220 like here's a great thing

01:00:01.160 like it'll be like

01:00:02.440 a pair of hanky panky

01:00:05.140 underwear

01:00:06.580 yeah

01:00:09.740 okay you know the ones the butter lace

01:00:12.900 yeah okay just like that

01:00:14.820 like that's like you pull it out and you're like

01:00:17.200 well that's fun okay and then you reach

01:00:19.160 in and you're like wait what's this

01:00:20.700 and these are some of the

01:00:22.520 i got it i should do a feature for poog of like of like my mother's classics like

01:00:27.320 like things that she gives that might end up in like we still have to do moog we still have to

01:00:32.220 do an episode if it's our mom's oh right i forgot yeah imagine though it's it's them talking about

01:00:40.940 us i know which is actually like maybe i don't know if we can do that yeah we have to um we do

01:00:46.420 have to wrap up i'm gonna do one last thing that i'm enjoying which is coco june coconut yogurt

01:00:51.300 It makes me moan.

01:00:52.700 Really?

01:00:53.040 And I would love to receive 45 boxes in the mail.

01:00:56.020 Yeah.

01:00:56.740 Okay.

01:00:57.600 Do they have a no added sugar version?

01:00:59.980 Do they have a high fat?

01:01:01.240 Because I'm looking for the highest fat yogurt I can get in this country.

01:01:05.100 I think it's full coconut milk.

01:01:05.640 We all remember the kind I had in Scotland.

01:01:07.680 It was the supermarkets brand and it was a good 10% fat and it was-

01:01:11.300 Coconut or dairy?

01:01:12.560 Dairy.

01:01:14.060 Yeah, I think this is high.

01:01:15.380 Dairy.

01:01:15.740 I've never tried even for a single day to not do dairy.

01:01:19.740 I don't believe

01:01:21.640 I have bad news

01:01:22.600 Which is I think for me

01:01:23.680 It's I think

01:01:24.180 By the way

01:01:24.640 I think my skin 0.99

01:01:25.340 Did you get your Viome 0.87

01:01:26.040 Because we need to

01:01:27.500 I did get it 0.99

01:01:27.960 I have to shit in the thing 0.98

01:01:29.180 Do our test 0.99

01:01:29.720 Yeah

01:01:32.680 It could be weeks

01:01:33.660 Okay so

01:01:35.100 I'm here to say

01:01:36.300 Love ya

01:01:37.000 I know you're under a deadline

01:01:37.960 As soon as you're done

01:01:38.860 We're going to jar

01:01:39.580 We're getting tanked

01:01:40.860 Can't wait

01:01:41.420 Oh I can't wait

01:01:42.740 A martini

01:01:43.420 A martini with my girl

01:01:44.700 Or a vinegar cocktail

01:01:47.760 You know I may have changed

01:01:48.700 Just vinegar

01:01:49.640 and soda. With a vinegar floater. Yeah.

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01:04:20.040 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

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01:04:27.500 Back then, I lied to everybody.

01:04:29.840 They have had this case for 30 years.

01:04:32.760 I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth.

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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - November 22, 2022

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