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00:02:36.100 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:37.620 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:02:38.720 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

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00:02:50.600 Today's topic, loosely speaking, Cyclone.

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00:03:03.220 Here comes

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00:03:05.760 Jersey sessions

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00:03:10.420 I'm in New Jersey

00:03:13.200 Okay

00:03:14.380 I am not at the

00:03:16.180 Ludlow folk

00:03:17.120 I am not

00:03:21.740 Is it a parking lot?

00:03:23.420 I imagine there's nothing outside.

00:03:24.940 Is it a parking lot?

00:03:25.700 Is it one of those?

00:03:26.420 Off a highway?

00:03:27.180 So I pull up.

00:03:28.220 Which has its own glamour, I'll say.

00:03:29.660 But anyway, we'll get to that.

00:03:30.480 I go, what?

00:03:31.180 I'm going to reframe it all for you.

00:03:32.900 Glass door is open.

00:03:34.460 Elevator.

00:03:36.000 Where do I go?

00:03:37.260 So that was weird.

00:03:38.300 Oh, the lobby was empty except for an elevator?

00:03:40.700 The lobby is like hidden up.

00:03:42.380 So then I go up and I was like, oh no.

00:03:45.500 So then up to the lobby, you go, hi, checking in, Caperland.

00:03:48.860 Hi, checking in.

00:03:49.320 And I go, okay, da, da, da.

00:03:50.500 and I'm here for work

00:03:52.240 so you know

00:03:53.060 they're like

00:03:53.620 incidentals

00:03:54.400 I was like sure

00:03:55.080 okay

00:03:55.560 and then it's like

00:03:56.920 and I was like

00:03:57.800 is there room service

00:03:59.280 she was like 1.00

00:03:59.840 no

00:04:00.500 the way you get

00:04:02.500 you get

00:04:02.880 you get to that

00:04:04.260 but

00:04:04.500 you can order food

00:04:06.020 but you have to come down

00:04:07.240 to the lobby to get it

00:04:08.320 right

00:04:08.640 and that's when the knife

00:04:09.740 goes right through the

00:04:10.860 between the two eyes

00:04:11.960 yeah 0.92

00:04:12.320 into the pineal gland 0.97

00:04:13.620 permanently disfiguring

00:04:15.100 capacity for memory

00:04:16.440 and I

00:04:17.320 and I'm a sporer

00:04:18.500 I go

00:04:18.780 okay

00:04:19.260 thank you

00:04:20.320 She's

00:04:21.080 By the way 1.00

00:04:21.600 She's coughing all over her hands 1.00

00:04:23.320 Handing me her keys 0.99

00:04:23.860 This is a work trip

00:04:24.640 And you've been put up

00:04:25.980 Yeah

00:04:26.480 Is that what's going on here?

00:04:27.540 Yeah yeah yeah

00:04:28.120 That's why

00:04:28.720 So okay

00:04:29.360 You haven't chosen

00:04:30.340 Like that's why

00:04:31.960 You're in this situation

00:04:33.280 Correct

00:04:33.300 Essentially

00:04:33.760 And by the way

00:04:34.360 I go up to the room

00:04:34.940 First thing I do

00:04:35.740 Look up on Google Maps

00:04:36.980 Where the Love Low is

00:04:37.880 How far it is from you

00:04:39.120 It's 27 minutes away

00:04:40.700 27 minutes

00:04:42.060 Your job is in Jersey

00:04:43.260 That's why you're there 0.99

00:04:44.100 It fucking better be 0.99

00:04:44.900 I don't even know where I'm shooting 0.99

00:04:46.280 What a life

00:04:47.720 Mm-hmm

00:04:48.640 No it is

00:04:49.760 It is

00:04:50.180 I believe it's in Jersey.

00:04:52.300 And if I sound ungrateful, I am.

00:04:55.360 Yeah, who cares?

00:04:56.220 It's fine.

00:04:58.180 I'm so tired.

00:04:59.480 I've, you know me, nine hours minimum.

00:05:02.340 Yeah.

00:05:02.720 I got, I'm looking at one night of four hours,

00:05:05.540 one night at around five or six,

00:05:07.700 and then another night at like five.

00:05:08.560 Due to you dancing into the night though, probably, knowing you.

00:05:11.620 Yeah, yeah, due to dancing into the night.

00:05:13.160 So no one feels sorry for you on that one.

00:05:16.700 Okay, you've been arguing on Poog for six years.

00:05:20.180 Okay, about how sometimes getting no sleep, but if you're dancing all night, you wake up more refreshed than ever.

00:05:28.200 For one night, for one night.

00:05:29.620 Okay, yeah.

00:05:30.120 I think that-

00:05:30.620 But you've been prisoner of multiple nights dancing under the moon.

00:05:35.300 You've been held prisoner by a series of invitations you couldn't refuse.

00:05:39.520 I have to say last night I saw the moon.

00:05:42.160 It felt, I mean, it was a significant moon to me, but I had never even seen the moon over there.

00:05:47.180 I've been living at this place for seven years.

00:05:48.840 I go, what? This moon's never been over there in my own home. And I could have sworn the moon

00:05:54.940 had never been there. Remember we were talking about your patio and whether or not you were

00:06:01.060 going to need shade out there. Yeah. I didn't understand the sun. I was like, well, go out

00:06:07.120 and see where the sun is on your porch throughout the day. Easiest way, really. Right. Versus like

00:06:13.880 I face north, whatever. It's shining on me. You're not clear on whether the sun moves.

00:06:17.920 That was the thing, which I found surprising.

00:06:20.180 The idea that you weren't aware of the sun, like, relative to your own experience.

00:06:24.740 I know the sun moves.

00:06:26.080 I'm not talking like, I struggle with that stuff too, okay?

00:06:29.680 And I think it's weird not to, frankly.

00:06:31.500 No, I agree.

00:06:32.420 Yeah, these people that, yeah, they're like, oh, the moon, moon.

00:06:34.660 I mean, are you kidding?

00:06:35.760 Like, we're not clear on movement.

00:06:38.740 Yeah.

00:06:39.060 I always remember it by, you know, where does the sun rise and set, okay?

00:06:43.120 Yeah.

00:06:44.000 I used to try to remember via Beauty and the Beast, like, rising in the east.

00:06:48.120 But then I was like, where is it west?

00:06:49.760 Yeah.

00:06:50.560 The cowboy rides west at sunset, doesn't he? 1.00

00:06:53.940 Sure fucking does. 1.00

00:06:54.920 He rides him to the sunset. 0.99

00:06:56.340 And he's obviously headed west, right?

00:06:57.720 Headed west, yeah.

00:06:58.780 Although, yeah.

00:07:00.360 All right.

00:07:00.860 So this is what I'm talking about.

00:07:02.140 To have an advanced degree and to not know where the sun is, is like exactly the contemporary disease. 0.98

00:07:07.680 Your advanced degree was a goddamn gallatin, cross-discipline, you know. 0.98

00:07:13.340 So no surprise there. 1.00

00:07:15.120 Yeah.

00:07:15.360 I was studying the fragment and its relationship to luminality.

00:07:17.980 So how could I possibly know where the hell the moon is on a good night?

00:07:21.740 Oh my God.

00:07:23.080 Sorry.

00:07:23.580 Go on.

00:07:24.340 What was I saying?

00:07:24.900 Oh yeah.

00:07:25.160 So what am I saying?

00:07:25.860 You were complaining about a glorious set of lines.

00:07:28.000 But I will say, I was jet blue mint, honey.

00:07:31.140 And you know, being on the plane and it was funny.

00:07:34.380 It's not funny.

00:07:35.240 I was going to, it's funny.

00:07:36.040 I was the same menu from my previous mint experience. 0.99

00:07:39.280 Fucking bull between the eyes. 0.99

00:07:41.000 Well, I will say that I was shocked. 1.00

00:07:44.700 I don't know. 0.99

00:07:45.080 I kind of like thought every menu was like fresh as fuck. 0.99

00:07:47.920 I know. 0.99

00:07:48.460 And they repeat.

00:07:49.120 What is it?

00:07:49.600 Monthly?

00:07:50.120 I guess.

00:07:50.620 I don't know.

00:07:51.060 But I don't know.

00:07:51.840 I've ruined it twice.

00:07:53.060 I was, you know, emotional.

00:07:55.080 I was really swept up in the new Lana Del Rey.

00:07:57.520 It's my first real Lana plunge.

00:07:59.720 And when I tell you, I listened to kind of the album for like five hours.

00:08:05.420 Well, it was under five hours.

00:08:06.340 It was like four hours and something.

00:08:07.940 I skipped around to some other tracks, of course.

00:08:09.860 I'm not a lunatic.

00:08:11.000 but I'm in an altered state

00:08:14.560 so you could ask me anything

00:08:15.880 and I would

00:08:17.180 all I'll say is

00:08:18.420 no this is about me

00:08:19.260 which is

00:08:20.240 your energy is so

00:08:24.420 whatever right now

00:08:27.360 that I'm slipping into something

00:08:29.520 in response

00:08:30.660 which is hell

00:08:31.720 you want me to go up

00:08:32.500 no I just felt myself

00:08:35.000 I was like

00:08:35.760 no one's jealous

00:08:37.680 or no one's sad for you Kate

00:08:39.720 like I slipped into

00:08:40.620 Like Sister and Jerry Maguire energy?

00:08:43.300 Still haven't seen it, but I...

00:08:45.400 How dare you?

00:08:47.160 No, just how dare you.

00:08:48.880 Wait, what were you going to sing?

00:08:50.060 For not singing?

00:08:50.960 There's a tunnel under Ocean Boulevard.

00:08:53.920 Oh, okay, great.

00:08:56.680 So I took a cold ice plunge bath two nights in a row.

00:09:00.240 Wait, talk me through it.

00:09:01.680 Okay, are you ready?

00:09:03.020 Well, why talk you through it when I have...

00:09:05.880 Audio?

00:09:07.040 Okay, let's see here.

00:09:08.360 I just had to record myself

00:09:10.860 I fall silent

00:09:19.800 and I'm breathing now

00:09:20.780 there's no

00:09:21.260 the second I'm in

00:09:22.040 I cannot speak

00:09:23.000 this was going to be

00:09:24.800 a live recording

00:09:25.700 wait so it's true ice

00:09:27.020 so I dumped

00:09:28.500 three trays

00:09:29.580 of ice

00:09:31.040 into just a cold bathtub

00:09:32.880 okay now

00:09:33.600 yeah I know

00:09:34.520 that's not that cold

00:09:35.180 no that's fine

00:09:35.880 that's good

00:09:36.400 that's good

00:09:36.900 okay

00:09:37.940 I get in I'm like oh no okay like you know the immediate regret it's like you're like it's mine

00:09:44.300 and I'm gonna do it and then you go in and it wasn't like when you and me have gotten in the

00:09:48.220 cold plunges which you're immediately up to your neck and you're just fucking in this is like 0.58

00:09:53.120 because it's a bathtub you kind of have to make it work to get under and so it's sort of like 0.92

00:09:57.920 I was almost in a pike position you know like leaning down like that and then my shoulders 0.91

00:10:02.580 were still naked and so the water's gently lapping at the border of where it's covering

00:10:08.440 me and not like getting me and and i couldn't speak i immediately went into like this like

00:10:13.140 oh okay his intense breathing was instantly brought on and then pretty quickly it was like

00:10:23.740 fine it's weird right really i mean the part i was under and then last night i did it again 0.97

00:10:29.240 Over the tits, if I may?

00:10:30.980 Well, I was like leaned down. 0.96

00:10:32.520 How's it merged?

00:10:33.200 Are we? 1.00

00:10:33.740 I mean, I'm in a pike position. 1.00

00:10:35.720 So I'm leaning down. 1.00

00:10:36.980 What the hell is that?

00:10:37.100 So you're trying to... 0.69

00:10:38.200 Pike? 1.00

00:10:39.060 Are you throwing a pike position? 0.94

00:10:40.960 I guess it's an old gymnastics term. 0.94

00:10:43.060 Okay. 0.93

00:10:43.280 Just legs straight out in front of you.

00:10:45.380 Like you're doing a seated forward bend stretch.

00:10:48.480 All I'm struck with is the fact

00:10:50.180 there's no bathtub in this hotel room,

00:10:51.920 which I ran when I ran in.

00:10:53.240 I immediately peered in.

00:10:54.480 Nothing.

00:10:55.600 One of these.

00:10:56.340 Okay.

00:10:56.640 But...

00:10:56.920 Okay.

00:10:57.200 Got it.

00:10:57.520 Can you see? 1.00

00:10:57.880 she's holding her toes with her legs spread out I mean sorry legs straightforward and reaching

00:11:02.520 like you're doing a forward seated stretch so I'm bent down so you know I'm mostly in okay

00:11:07.780 so I do my my Tracy workout and I do it with heat and humidity in the room as you know

00:11:12.560 and then I'm so I'm cranked up and then I prepare the bath like or a few minutes before I go back

00:11:20.120 in front of my infrared space here I get really hot and then I go in and last night I did it again

00:11:24.780 I put on Whitney Houston.

00:11:26.040 I was just looking for a song

00:11:26.960 like that was around

00:11:28.240 like three minutes

00:11:29.100 because I want to be in there

00:11:30.360 for three minutes

00:11:30.960 as I put on

00:11:31.560 I Will Always Love You.

00:11:32.680 Why weird you bring it up

00:11:33.740 because I had a friend be like,

00:11:34.860 you have to watch The Bodyguard.

00:11:36.260 I've never seen it.

00:11:37.020 You know,

00:11:37.340 I don't think I've seen it either.

00:11:38.740 And she reenacted a scene

00:11:39.960 that I thought was like,

00:11:40.980 it's like the hottest thing

00:11:41.740 I've ever heard.

00:11:42.520 Oh my God.

00:11:43.060 Something about a sword

00:11:43.860 and a scarf.

00:11:45.580 Wow.

00:11:46.040 Yeah.

00:11:46.840 What's happening with a sword?

00:11:48.420 I'm going to see it,

00:11:49.380 but something about

00:11:50.220 she's playing with his sword

00:11:52.720 that he has at his apartment

00:11:54.520 and she's waving it around.

00:11:56.780 This is hot.

00:11:58.000 He takes the sword

00:11:58.920 and holds it to his chest.

00:12:01.760 And then,

00:12:03.300 from what I'm told,

00:12:04.900 there's a scarf around her neck

00:12:06.280 or something.

00:12:07.080 He takes the scarf,

00:12:09.000 he throws it up in the air,

00:12:10.780 and the scarf starts to drift down

00:12:13.140 and the blade slices it.

00:12:15.140 The blade is so sharp,

00:12:16.940 the scarf is sliced.

00:12:19.420 This was reenacted for me. 0.82

00:12:20.980 Okay, so that's a phallic knife 1.00

00:12:24.480 splitting the red woman 1.00

00:12:27.480 into, I mean 1.00

00:12:29.440 that, right? Oh yeah.

00:12:31.740 Interesting. And I was

00:12:33.300 I mean, in some ways it sounds hot. In some ways it sounds

00:12:35.360 like nothing. Like in some ways it sounds

00:12:37.080 It's actually nothing. It sounds like a magician

00:12:39.240 and a nightmare. Exactly.

00:12:42.420 This is the thing

00:12:43.320 about memory.

00:12:45.160 It was, I'm caught up in my friend reenacting

00:12:47.480 it for me unexpectedly. Right.

00:12:49.400 And the intensity in her eyes. Oh my god.

00:12:51.840 Yeah. She grabbed

00:12:53.300 it was so real

00:12:54.500 I was exhausted

00:12:55.820 it was 1

00:12:56.540 I am

00:12:57.600 it's completely

00:12:59.240 enraptured by it

00:13:00.080 well the friend

00:13:00.280 no right

00:13:00.640 the friends

00:13:01.380 the friend being

00:13:02.500 enraptured by

00:13:03.540 the memory enough

00:13:04.840 to communicate it

00:13:06.140 to you

00:13:06.680 right

00:13:07.760 yes

00:13:09.200 yes

00:13:09.820 that's where the

00:13:10.460 seduction lived 0.95

00:13:11.240 the eroticization

00:13:12.320 via the

00:13:13.140 the channel

00:13:15.320 of the

00:13:15.760 friend's enthusiasm

00:13:17.020 you know

00:13:17.720 there's nothing

00:13:18.820 like a friend's

00:13:19.820 enthusiasm

00:13:20.240 to make you do

00:13:21.700 anything

00:13:22.120 um by the way i packed in such a psychotic state that i only brought one pair of shoes

00:13:31.000 yeah shoes take up too much room that's a first i would say one brought one more one

00:13:36.440 i imagine i brought one pair period i just want to be clear you're saying i did not pack a single

00:13:41.980 shoe i wore my shoe on the plane i have one shoe for the whole trip okay good girl

00:13:46.220 i'm like i don't know i'm proud and impressed now what what's the shoe because we're looking at

00:13:56.040 you're working so exactly we're working you're not going to be out i didn't even i went i went

00:14:00.920 i'll bring some mascara i'll bring some but what am i i didn't even bring a whoa guys did i not

00:14:06.060 bring a lipstick that's unheard of wow there's got to be a lipstick in there but this is a i

00:14:10.260 have a dm is what the the brand is like kind of a hiking sneaker they're incredibly comfortable uh

00:14:17.680 yeah so i i pulled something up um some of my interest great screen grabbed something for you

00:14:26.900 let's see um oh you know we need to get into i've heard peptides we're i can't believe you're

00:14:35.040 talking about peptides because josh rosebrook yes was talking who i met was an absolute met

00:14:41.660 him spontaneously at credo beauty skincare magician no yeah i was talking about it was

00:14:46.200 unbelievable to meet him um beautiful products beautiful beautiful line incredible to hear

00:14:51.360 his story it was like creating products when he was like a teenager dying to try his products i

00:14:56.380 won't lie absolutely get well yeah he's got to get them to you but he makes peptides and he said he

00:15:00.760 He was like, listen, I don't degrade other brands, but there's a reason peptides are expensive.

00:15:05.640 Yeah.

00:15:06.140 He's like, sorry, I don't know what to tell you.

00:15:07.880 If someone's selling you a peptide cream and it's 30 bucks, it's just not the real peptides.

00:15:12.560 Wait, this is huge because I'm talking about injectables that you inject into your stomach.

00:15:17.280 Oh, see, I was talking about topical in the face.

00:15:19.120 Those are the peptides I'm talking about, not for skin.

00:15:21.500 Wow.

00:15:22.340 Okay, but I still think there's a good point there. 0.77

00:15:24.960 I don't even know what the hell you're talking about.

00:15:26.520 Yeah. So it's like one of these things I see on the menus at like that place that I got the IV, the hydration, the NAD.

00:15:36.200 Oh, yeah. I can't believe it.

00:15:37.260 And that's like this other level under like medical services like what? 0.90

00:15:40.540 And then they say you can also order them in your home and stab yourself in the lower abdomen with them.

00:15:45.660 And, you know, I know nothing and I'm sort of exhausted by the prospect of another thing. 0.93

00:15:50.400 Of course. Exhausted and enchanted.

00:15:52.560 the whole time. If it's keeping up with anything that is supplementation is very hard.

00:16:00.800 Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, so I'm not even sure where to begin there. And I think they're

00:16:05.800 not cheap. Can't imagine they are. And then the problem is, you know, of course, if they

00:16:09.820 work, now you're on the hook, right? So it's like, that's the problem with buying something

00:16:14.320 once. What does a peptide do? Well, peptides are, I mean, it's like there's different ones

00:16:20.260 And the body produces them naturally, but like I think human growth hormone like is a peptide or something.

00:16:25.900 I don't know.

00:16:26.780 I know nothing, but I've seen benefits promised in the other thing I fucking want and I sent it to you and it is so, it looks like an 80s infomercial and yet guess who's buying into the peer-reviewed science?

00:16:40.960 The Bionic Gym.

00:16:42.660 I think I sent you a clip.

00:16:43.760 You did.

00:16:44.400 I didn't see the clip.

00:16:45.240 Straight up panels on the legs that are activating fast twitch muscles.

00:16:51.280 Okay.

00:16:51.660 The legs are dancing.

00:16:52.860 Oh, yeah, of course.

00:16:53.920 I've seen this on people. 1.00

00:16:55.280 They plug their ass into it. 1.00

00:16:56.720 Oh, right. 1.00

00:16:56.900 But no, but this is supposed to be more than that.

00:16:59.320 This isn't the laying on the doctor's table and it's the tens or whatever.

00:17:04.240 This is something else. 1.00

00:17:05.680 This, you are sweating your fucking face off. 1.00

00:17:09.140 Whoa. 1.00

00:17:09.940 And there's cardiovascular.

00:17:11.500 So people are sweating.

00:17:12.480 Their heart rate goes up.

00:17:14.160 Wow.

00:17:14.560 So apparently it's a full workout while you watch TV, while you do chores or while you work.

00:17:21.400 They show this guy at his office or whatever, okay, in his desk.

00:17:24.680 Yeah, just like shaking from below.

00:17:26.600 I want to see that.

00:17:27.380 And I reached out.

00:17:29.640 Naturally.

00:17:31.380 And said, hey, and I decided there was no time to, you know, gauge your interest and whatever.

00:17:38.000 And so I just decided to include you and said, you know, we would love to try this.

00:17:42.160 You know, we try all sorts of things.

00:17:44.560 And I love the promise of spring, of muscular stimulation that will burn 600 in an hour.

00:17:58.560 You know, but now will that replace anything?

00:18:03.640 No.

00:18:04.120 Okay.

00:18:05.660 But it'll be a nice bonus.

00:18:08.880 I was thinking I could strap them on if I'm going to lay in the higher dose.

00:18:12.340 You freak.

00:18:13.120 Why not also strap those on?

00:18:14.260 Yeah, then you just, you're...

00:18:15.480 Okay.

00:18:16.760 And then how many devices can I get going?

00:18:18.660 By the way, by the way, huge news.

00:18:21.060 I don't know if you've opened it yet.

00:18:21.960 I haven't opened it yet, but I'm so excited.

00:18:23.440 Dennis Gross.

00:18:24.260 The new.

00:18:25.160 Dr. Dennis sent us.

00:18:26.700 Dr. Dennis Gross.

00:18:27.440 Spectralite.

00:18:27.800 Okay, I have to say something.

00:18:29.100 New and improved.

00:18:30.020 Yeah.

00:18:30.320 So I, he sent us the spectral mask, the LED, the blue light that I swear to God.

00:18:35.860 And red light.

00:18:36.820 Yeah, yeah.

00:18:37.100 I'm sorry.

00:18:37.420 And red light.

00:18:38.620 I don't even think, this might not even be it, but I swear to God, I did it like two days in a row.

00:18:42.620 I felt the difference, folks.

00:18:44.000 Yeah.

00:18:45.040 Look at that.

00:18:46.380 Well, I believe.

00:18:47.460 So the new Spectralite, full ad, okay?

00:18:50.060 But the new Spectralite-

00:18:51.300 So it's not an ad, to be fair?

00:18:53.600 Yeah, yeah.

00:18:55.460 We will wait.

00:18:57.360 So it's bigger.

00:18:58.340 It covers more around the eye area.

00:19:00.760 It's just for the eye area.

00:19:01.940 This one is just for the eye area,

00:19:03.560 though you could move it around your entire body

00:19:06.320 three minutes at a time if you wanted to-

00:19:08.880 Because that's the thing.

00:19:09.500 It says three minutes.

00:19:10.400 Why not do six, right?

00:19:12.140 Talk to me about that.

00:19:13.160 I think because three minutes has an effect

00:19:16.420 and you're selling people on how quickly it can be done.

00:19:20.140 But why not pop in for six?

00:19:22.080 I think you can keep it on.

00:19:23.900 I mean, I think you can.

00:19:25.240 But I believe the new one has more LEDs

00:19:27.760 and I think it might even penetrate deeper.

00:19:30.400 But I have to check on that.

00:19:31.680 I don't have it in front of me.

00:19:34.220 Although, so I've been blasting myself

00:19:37.760 with our Light Path LED brand light.

00:19:41.440 fabulous

00:19:42.060 at the end of my workouts

00:19:43.060 yeah wow

00:19:43.660 I've been sitting there

00:19:44.660 in the nude 0.62

00:19:45.620 getting blasted 0.98

00:19:46.720 great 0.96

00:19:47.420 I gotta get

00:19:47.940 when I get back

00:19:48.640 you gotta get that on you

00:19:50.380 when I get back

00:19:50.400 I'm going red light

00:19:51.160 yeah

00:19:51.840 it's

00:19:52.400 the combo of red light

00:19:54.700 and infrared

00:19:55.140 but I've got

00:19:57.100 all the spectrums going

00:19:58.140 because I've got

00:19:58.640 the heat producing infrared

00:19:59.820 that's heating up

00:20:00.820 my body from the inside out

00:20:02.620 versus cooking you

00:20:03.520 from that outside in

00:20:04.580 like the average heater

00:20:05.480 then we've got

00:20:07.480 the infrared

00:20:07.980 and the red LED

00:20:09.400 two different spectrums

00:20:11.100 So that's now we got three going.

00:20:12.440 I'm just looking to see if the Spectralite information has launched.

00:20:15.480 Here it is.

00:20:16.480 Get ready for next generation.

00:20:18.420 Our new Spectralite.

00:20:20.160 96 red LEDs and four wavelengths.

00:20:22.640 That's 30% more than before.

00:20:24.820 Yeah.

00:20:25.860 You know I love, and to be clear, not an ad,

00:20:28.280 but you know I love when a brand isn't afraid to improve their product.

00:20:32.720 Okay?

00:20:33.200 Of course. 0.99

00:20:34.340 I mean, I know new and improved is an old, you know, bullshit thing. 0.99

00:20:39.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:20:39.240 But in this day and age

00:20:40.780 I feel it still takes courage

00:20:42.180 You know

00:20:43.420 We're going back to the drawing board

00:20:44.560 On this one

00:20:45.100 Yeah

00:20:45.680 Forgive me for

00:20:47.340 I'm like

00:20:48.020 Clearly

00:20:48.480 I'm like

00:20:48.980 You gotta drive

00:20:50.040 I'm so

00:20:50.660 I'll drive if you want

00:20:52.440 I'll pull together

00:20:53.080 I screen grabbed something else for us

00:20:55.340 Let me just see what it is

00:20:56.420 Open me up

00:20:58.400 Tell me you like it 1.00

00:21:00.520 Fuck me to Dale 1.00

00:21:02.040 remember how hard we laughed the other day oh my god that felt good really i listened like to 1.00

00:21:15.480 have a friend sent it because i had sort of forgotten and then i listened to it the joy it

00:21:19.900 brought the joy i could not believe it and i was talking to you today about the power of when you

00:21:25.340 laugh so hard or when someone really makes you laugh like that it's rare in life there's about

00:21:30.960 Three people that can do that to me.

00:21:32.940 It really is pure euphoria.

00:21:36.140 Oh, God.

00:21:36.900 Yeah, it really is when it takes over.

00:21:40.000 Well, you know what Nietzsche said.

00:21:41.500 What?

00:21:41.880 Tell me now.

00:21:43.720 Oh, just like at the height of wisdom is laughter.

00:21:46.600 And here I go. 0.94

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00:25:30.560 oh i i'm trying the zozo suit i'm so ill um the zozo suit is a thing i got sent you had no interest

00:25:45.380 you were like do you want a zozo suit i was like no it like 3d maps your bod yes and so

00:25:52.700 it well what's funny is that it started as um a way to get like perfect measurements for

00:25:58.820 like the idea it started almost like it was like you're not a size you're not a number like

00:26:05.320 you're a series of measurements okay but like you know like like but they're like they're like it

00:26:12.040 was almost for you know this idea of a universalized thing where you go no i'm not a i'm not a six

00:26:20.260 I'm a you-go girl.

00:26:24.700 Okay, like, it's like, no, I'm 32, you know.

00:26:28.660 Here and this and that, whatever.

00:26:30.480 And so it's a suit you pull on, like a shirt.

00:26:34.220 It looks like, much like long johns.

00:26:39.340 Okay.

00:26:40.540 So it's a tight-ish fitting thing.

00:26:42.900 It's covered in these little circles and these other things

00:26:45.900 that then you stand in front of your phone

00:26:48.600 and you turn in a slow circle.

00:26:52.380 They go, turn to three o'clock.

00:26:54.340 Turn to four o'clock.

00:26:56.280 Scan complete.

00:26:58.280 And then this graphic image of like,

00:27:02.280 you know, you as a sort of whatever figure pops up.

00:27:06.860 And I was like, yeah, that is my body.

00:27:08.780 Anyway, so it started this thing

00:27:09.980 like you're going to have these really precise measurements

00:27:12.320 that you can like send.

00:27:14.120 I think they thought maybe it was going to become standard.

00:27:16.640 Everyone has a Zozo suit at home

00:27:17.940 and then everyone can order custom-sized, you know, clothes.

00:27:21.520 You wish, doll.

00:27:21.920 And then, of course, it was immediately swept up by the fitness nuts

00:27:27.140 who were like, I gained half an inch in my bicep, right?

00:27:31.380 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:31.980 And they love it because, you know, measuring, measuring, measuring

00:27:34.740 is constant in that community.

00:27:37.300 So then it kind of rebranded a quarterly.

00:27:40.820 Yeah.

00:27:41.300 Well, yeah.

00:27:42.080 I mean, it's, and the women of Beverly Hills or whatever, right?

00:27:47.020 and me

00:27:48.340 okay

00:27:49.020 because

00:27:49.360 I love data

00:27:51.060 and so

00:27:51.880 in I go

00:27:53.320 and

00:27:53.920 I don't know

00:27:55.940 I just love

00:27:57.220 when the data feels

00:27:59.240 I don't know

00:27:59.920 it's fun 1.00

00:28:00.380 to see this weird model

00:28:01.760 of my own body

00:28:02.700 and go

00:28:03.120 that's me

00:28:04.460 stripped of all personality

00:28:06.000 I lost

00:28:06.880 to finally be stripped

00:28:08.260 and I was like

00:28:08.760 there's also a

00:28:10.320 remember in Mad Men

00:28:12.220 like

00:28:12.520 take a paper bag

00:28:13.980 and put it over your head

00:28:14.880 oh my god

00:28:15.480 we've talked about this right

00:28:16.540 analyze your strengths

00:28:17.660 and weaknesses

00:28:18.160 oh wow

00:28:19.040 you know

00:28:20.140 and

00:28:20.740 I don't know

00:28:22.120 it's kind of a thrill

00:28:22.840 it's kind of a thrill

00:28:24.260 to see myself

00:28:24.940 made of lines

00:28:26.000 whoa

00:28:27.160 she's showing

00:28:27.820 she's showing

00:28:28.420 I thought I sent you these

00:28:29.280 already right

00:28:29.480 no you did send them to me

00:28:30.260 yeah

00:28:31.000 yeah

00:28:31.420 I'm working with bands now

00:28:35.200 right

00:28:35.560 I don't know

00:28:36.120 did we just do a rerun

00:28:37.340 I don't really

00:28:38.440 no no

00:28:38.760 I was thinking

00:28:39.200 no no

00:28:40.000 we can

00:28:40.480 here's what we can do 0.99

00:28:41.160 I've been thinking shit 0.99

00:28:43.620 all week 0.99

00:28:44.260 to talk about

00:28:44.900 I really need to get 0.85

00:28:45.940 my shit together with like writing it down I guess I have written some stuff down I was um 0.80

00:28:51.300 I got nothing there's no way around it I am going to after this I'm going to 0.99

00:29:04.260 hopefully sleep for 12 hours I was sitting around okay last night I had a dream that I had

00:29:10.540 a coffee machine that you had handed off to me and I had therefore a means of steaming milk okay

00:29:16.580 I had this dream and then I woke up going I have no means of stealing steaming milk and then I

00:29:21.500 thought to myself what was Kate talking about the other day when she said you know the the

00:29:25.940 Nespresso the little milk steamer and I was like sounds familiar like why do I don't I feel like I

00:29:31.660 had one of those I couldn't and then I went to the cabinet and it was there I reached under and

00:29:37.340 It was deep and I pulled it out.

00:29:38.140 I couldn't.

00:29:38.660 I can't live without it.

00:29:40.280 And then I pulled out.

00:29:41.220 I was going to use cream and then I pulled it out and it expired.

00:29:46.280 It was unopened and expired, which is always an honor to have to deposit into the trash directly, both a disposable container and unused cream.

00:29:59.820 Unused.

00:30:00.700 Gorgeous cream. 0.84

00:30:02.940 Disgusting. 0.91

00:30:03.660 like what's wrong here 0.99

00:30:08.640 I know what's wrong with me

00:30:09.820 where there's a layer in which we're not descending

00:30:12.400 I know what's wrong with me

00:30:13.400 I'm severely compromised

00:30:14.840 I'm a bit compromised by a headache

00:30:18.260 by the fact I can't sleep with a pillow

00:30:21.000 apparently or I wake up in pain

00:30:22.940 I think I'm gonna have to go back to no pillow 0.99

00:30:25.200 and a fucking washcloth 1.00

00:30:26.440 I know a woman that slept without a pillow 1.00

00:30:27.940 I couldn't believe this girl 1.00

00:30:30.580 what? 0.98

00:30:31.160 what yeah and by the way it started just because she like didn't get one 1.00

00:30:35.220 and then just it never took well if you sleep on your back i think a lot of pillows fuck you 0.94

00:30:43.580 because you then you're like you gotta sleep on the back it's like you're lying on your back 0.99

00:30:47.340 and your head is in the same position it was all day when you were hunched over your device desk

00:30:51.660 yeah and uh i dropped my phone in the i think toilet twice um i had to pluck it out a while

00:31:00.360 the toilet was flushing

00:31:01.420 and I don't piss

00:31:02.560 recently?

00:31:03.480 yeah

00:31:03.720 piss only?

00:31:04.800 hell yeah 0.99

00:31:05.120 piss only 0.97

00:31:05.500 hell yeah 0.99

00:31:06.060 it's like reached in

00:31:09.140 and

00:31:09.740 and it's back in use

00:31:12.160 that's all I'll say

00:31:13.180 you know

00:31:14.320 like it didn't visit

00:31:15.480 it didn't visit

00:31:16.420 a government

00:31:17.220 sanitization place

00:31:19.300 you know

00:31:19.740 I did my best

00:31:20.740 of course

00:31:21.400 but

00:31:22.620 I actually wouldn't trust

00:31:23.620 the government

00:31:24.060 sanitation chambers

00:31:25.580 if they

00:31:26.220 you know

00:31:27.840 if they offered them

00:31:28.720 I'll go

00:31:29.240 I'm gonna do this

00:31:30.300 at home. Yeah. Yeah. Well, here's a question. What do we think about a machine that, you know,

00:31:37.620 a no scrub scrubber for the bathtub? Because I want to get my bath in good shape right now if

00:31:42.980 I'm going to be doing these cold plunges. But the usual harsh chemicals that I'm interested in using

00:31:48.900 for a bathtub. Yeah. Then you're soaking. Then you're soaking in them. So is it industrial? I

00:31:55.260 I have this in my cart today that I'm ordering.

00:31:57.640 Is it industrial 30% concentrated white vinegar combined with baking soda?

00:32:03.420 Throw it in there.

00:32:04.560 A little bit of dish soap.

00:32:05.680 I guess my question, though.

00:32:06.800 Talk to me about the smell.

00:32:08.660 Of vinegar.

00:32:09.620 Yeah.

00:32:10.060 Well, you know the claim always.

00:32:11.900 What?

00:32:12.260 What?

00:32:12.440 The claim with the vinegar cleaning is that the scent of vinegar just dissipates.

00:32:18.220 Not immediately.

00:32:19.320 I'll say that much.

00:32:20.520 Yeah.

00:32:20.680 I don't mind it.

00:32:22.040 I've smelled it.

00:32:22.900 I've smelled it before

00:32:24.340 and I'm like

00:32:24.680 well that smells like vinegar

00:32:25.580 but I guess it's because

00:32:26.300 it was just used

00:32:27.280 in theory

00:32:28.020 but I like the idea

00:32:29.900 of it working

00:32:30.680 I like the idea

00:32:31.820 of covering the tub

00:32:33.220 in baking soda

00:32:34.180 right

00:32:34.580 then

00:32:36.300 spritzing it

00:32:37.340 bonbon

00:32:37.780 that's the

00:32:40.820 that's the

00:32:41.320 that's like the healthy

00:32:42.680 or the

00:32:43.280 you know

00:32:44.160 green version

00:32:45.160 of Ajax

00:32:46.020 really

00:32:46.900 and it works

00:32:47.820 it works

00:32:48.660 wait

00:32:49.000 bonbon

00:32:49.640 I think that's what it's called

00:32:51.060 yeah

00:32:51.680 you checked

00:32:52.500 I'm looking right now

00:32:53.680 at it

00:32:54.160 at the product

00:32:55.240 I'm looking online

00:32:56.420 how quick did you move

00:32:58.020 you've only seen

00:32:58.900 you got one hand

00:32:59.520 no no no

00:32:59.680 I'm typing it in right now

00:33:01.100 you sure it's not

00:33:03.040 bona bona 0.99

00:33:04.060 shit 0.99

00:33:05.240 because I saw something 1.00

00:33:07.540 because I saw something

00:33:09.020 when I was

00:33:11.020 when I was looking at today

00:33:12.420 wait you've got it

00:33:13.400 wait what's it called

00:33:14.400 because there is a thing

00:33:15.440 because I was looking today

00:33:16.560 at like essentially

00:33:17.200 do I

00:33:17.640 do I start up with Swiffer again

00:33:19.180 you know

00:33:19.940 like

00:33:20.420 oh I think I'm above it

00:33:21.860 am I 0.99

00:33:22.480 because what the fuck is the good the best mop is the one you use you know that that concept yeah 0.98

00:33:28.400 yeah of photography best camera is the one you have in your pocket what's the cleaner called 0.99

00:33:33.080 bonabie wait hold on there's something that was like yeah oh okay okay okay it's called

00:33:40.860 it's got works folks bonbon bonbon and folks it works okay it's called bonami i don't speak french

00:33:50.420 but Bon Bon is way cuter

00:33:53.160 and then there is also

00:33:54.260 Bone Em Up

00:33:55.240 I'm just looking 1.00

00:33:56.400 the next Swiffer

00:33:57.760 it looks humongous

00:33:59.100 which

00:33:59.520 you know

00:34:00.360 I'm interested in

00:34:01.980 I mean

00:34:02.920 let's see here

00:34:05.520 open me up

00:34:07.460 tell me you like it 1.00

00:34:09.460 fuck me to death 1.00

00:34:11.080 this is 1.00

00:34:15.300 this is not good

00:34:17.120 let me tell you that

00:34:17.780 yeah I'd almost go rerun

00:34:19.020 I mean I'd literally

00:34:19.940 almost go rerun

00:34:20.820 I know

00:34:22.560 we could call this episode

00:34:24.240 skip this episode

00:34:25.340 we've done that before

00:34:26.880 we had no

00:34:27.900 please don't say that

00:34:29.060 no we haven't

00:34:30.040 we've pitched it

00:34:31.220 and

00:34:31.720 you've said like

00:34:32.720 folks this one is a skipper

00:34:34.260 I think that's fun 1.00

00:34:35.760 only the real diehards 1.00

00:34:37.480 will listen to this shit 1.00

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00:38:27.560 That is the sessions.

00:38:30.300 The Jersey sessions.

00:38:31.480 I didn't listen to all of it.

00:38:32.680 I won't lie.

00:38:33.440 Me neither.

00:38:33.760 You didn't listen to all of it?

00:38:37.260 Or any.

00:38:38.580 I didn't listen to any.

00:38:39.980 I'll admit I listened to some.

00:38:41.540 I can't lie to you.

00:38:42.820 I've tried to lie and I just-

00:38:44.740 I won't have it.

00:38:45.540 I'm not able.

00:38:46.440 And sometimes maybe I should learn how.

00:38:47.840 I don't know either way.

00:38:48.640 Okay.

00:38:49.260 But as I listened, I thought to myself, some might go, what about this one did they think

00:38:55.220 wasn't terrible?

00:38:56.580 Right.

00:38:56.880 This is pure gold.

00:38:58.380 Or this is no worse than anything else I've ever done.

00:39:03.200 Of course.

00:39:04.040 I know.

00:39:04.220 But anyway.

00:39:04.540 Right. Well, welcome to this week. I'm having, can you hear in my voice that I'm a little

00:39:09.440 diminished, sad or something? Sure. I'm fine. No, but I'm just a little,

00:39:17.040 here I fucking go. Let's hear it. Well, yesterday was a full moon. I just mean like, 0.99

00:39:22.820 I am eternally self-conscious about being someone who references astrology.

00:39:28.080 Yeah. You got to let go. It's here. Due to the patriarchal voice I was raised with,

00:39:31.740 which was um and you know watching husbands and wives the 13 year old which woody i wrote about 0.99

00:39:36.340 a character who's you know uh basically revealed to be a complete fucking fool um for being a 1.00

00:39:41.420 california yoga instructor into astrology right and is dragged out of a dinner party by her hair 0.99

00:39:45.440 for being an idiot um right i'm not gonna go into that further but um i have come to learn that my 0.98

00:39:52.880 aries moon it's huge no but it's a full moon it's a full moon what fucking ever it's full 1.00

00:40:00.580 what it was it was full yesterday full moon in libra and that's your aries all about the wounded 0.81

00:40:05.220 healer well now you've piqued my interest okay well you know what you know what i could talk

00:40:10.120 about that archetype wounded healers all day and all night also jacqueline why the hell is the

00:40:14.840 wounded healer present in you let's hear it i don't know it's not what comes to mind first

00:40:20.340 when I think of Caperland.

00:40:22.120 No, no, absolutely not.

00:40:24.020 How about this?

00:40:24.780 Apparently this full moon's also about

00:40:26.180 that which is unconscious,

00:40:28.560 but that which we know to be true.

00:40:30.360 Wait, isn't that a paradox?

00:40:32.680 In a certain sense.

00:40:37.240 Wait, that which we...

00:40:38.940 That which is unconscious.

00:40:39.820 That which is unconscious,

00:40:40.800 but we know to be true.

00:40:42.720 The unconscious truth.

00:40:43.840 You know what I'm saying, right?

00:40:44.360 No, no, of course.

00:40:45.200 It doesn't.

00:40:45.660 I mean, dare,

00:40:46.120 please don't anyone confuse me

00:40:48.060 for someone who's uncomfortable with paradox.

00:40:50.160 Okay.

00:40:50.340 No, no, no, of course not.

00:40:51.380 I'm trying to locate the meaning.

00:40:54.140 No, it's unwise what I said.

00:40:55.680 What was it coming from?

00:40:57.140 An app.

00:40:58.760 And had they said those words?

00:41:00.660 I think so.

00:41:01.340 I'm kind of paraphrasing unconscious truth.

00:41:03.400 Is it something like something that had become like, is it a story?

00:41:08.840 Something that was unconscious that now is known?

00:41:13.120 Is it that which was once known?

00:41:16.140 Wait, by the way, was the moon in a new position near your home?

00:41:19.360 something that was covered on the contents i actually last well last night this i'll never

00:41:24.220 understand last night i was sitting outside at a bar i look over i scream wow so bright it's full

00:41:29.880 moon peering through the trees i turn to the people i'm having a drink with talk talk talk

00:41:35.360 i turn back maybe three minutes later the moon's in the moon has shifted it's higher

00:41:39.160 wait it moves that quickly what do you think maybe you were we talked about this during the

00:41:45.120 contents but um of the episodes that you didn't listen to but slightly different that's why i

00:41:50.300 reference it but slightly different issue but okay i can't believe i'm the same how many minutes

00:41:55.980 were you talking couldn't have been more than six six i think there are well if you think about it

00:42:03.100 this way how quickly is that moon moving well here i don't know but here's the i mean i don't

00:42:06.880 even know at all because i didn't lose but you think about a sunset right think about watching 0.95

00:42:12.580 a sunset pretty goddamn fast that shit moves pretty quick now yeah those relative speeds 0.82

00:42:18.760 in relation to you know i don't know but the point is there's a moment when it's when you 0.98

00:42:26.140 can see it when you can't and in that moment i refuse to believe we aren't ruled by the planets

00:42:30.300 okay um i'm gonna break through because i have good news for you what's that we're going to

00:42:36.860 Disneyland I know I know we are no so we have a date the listeners we have Jacqueline and I

00:42:45.560 with two friends are going to Disneyland and Jacqueline so I have essentially never been

00:42:52.100 I went as a child I at Disneyland as a child for a friend's birthday party I believe I've talked

00:42:57.420 about this on Pooh lied to the my friend's mother about having diabetes because I'd seen it in the

00:43:01.100 baby babysitter's club movie Stacey yeah I was like my dad I read it in the books but like sure

00:43:05.340 The mother stopped and was like, you're diabetic.

00:43:08.440 Oh my God.

00:43:08.880 And I was like, oh no, no.

00:43:10.580 Like she thought my mother had sent me to Disneyland,

00:43:12.280 not telling a supervising adult.

00:43:14.140 And then you were like, no, I have diabetic tendencies.

00:43:18.100 No, I just want a churro now.

00:43:20.220 Oh, you were trying to get a snack?

00:43:22.300 No, I don't know what it was.

00:43:24.640 One time my cousin and I were at Playland,

00:43:27.080 Rye Playland with my dad and my cousin Rachel.

00:43:30.300 And she was so thirsty,

00:43:33.660 But she couldn't bring herself to ask my dad to get a drink

00:43:35.940 It went so far as him offering

00:43:37.960 Like does anyone want anything

00:43:39.320 I'm going to get a soda 1.00

00:43:40.100 And her being like no thanks 0.96

00:43:42.020 She couldn't say it

00:43:44.660 That's so by the way this is so

00:43:46.400 Because the childhood thing of being at the friend's house

00:43:49.180 After school and you're starving 1.00

00:43:50.380 You're fucking starving 1.00

00:43:51.780 But it's not your parents 1.00

00:43:53.420 So you can't be like get me a goddamn snack 1.00

00:43:55.400 You just have to suffer 1.00

00:43:56.820 Nothing scarier

00:43:58.280 This is essentially why I don't socialize

00:44:00.720 Because of the hunger

00:44:02.380 Yeah, the fear of hunger and then having to put on a massive show, a full scale musical, should I decide to break through. And actually, I don't know if I really deal with this anymore. But wait, I have, in the literal sense, never been to Disneyland.

00:44:23.500 Wait, what?

00:44:24.300 Well, it's here in California.

00:44:26.200 I didn't grow up in California.

00:44:27.500 You've never been to this one.

00:44:28.760 I've lived in California for a couple of years.

00:44:30.940 So no, I went to Disney World when I was like three.

00:44:35.760 Okay.

00:44:36.140 And then when I was 12, we went. 0.97

00:44:39.180 And it was fucking phenomenal. 0.84

00:44:41.820 I remember having a major sort of episode around Splash Mountain and can we get out of line? 0.98

00:44:46.820 Because I was too afraid of the big drop.

00:44:49.020 It was like, can I get a lot?

00:44:50.900 Can I get a lot?

00:44:51.300 I hear it might be under renovation.

00:44:53.460 I know.

00:44:54.300 I saw that.

00:44:55.300 So you've been doing some research.

00:44:56.880 I want ears.

00:44:57.780 I want sparkly ears.

00:45:00.080 What do you mean?

00:45:00.720 Mouse ears?

00:45:01.560 Mm-hmm.

00:45:02.360 Well, I definitely-

00:45:03.300 I think that's a big part of the culture is wearing the ears.

00:45:05.160 Really?

00:45:05.840 Yeah.

00:45:07.460 It gets almost strange to not wear them there.

00:45:09.540 Well, there is a question of what one wears to the amusement park.

00:45:13.720 It's really hard.

00:45:15.000 Right.

00:45:15.280 I think-

00:45:16.060 I know.

00:45:17.140 Because-

00:45:17.940 I think I'm going to wear jeans.

00:45:18.980 Yeah.

00:45:19.300 I mean, I do think it is.

00:45:20.680 I mean, anything else.

00:45:22.200 What else could you wear?

00:45:23.240 I don't wear athleisure.

00:45:24.300 as you know

00:45:26.180 you have worn it

00:45:28.140 I have of course

00:45:29.240 I think it's jeans

00:45:31.060 but if you wear

00:45:33.160 a heeled shoe or something 0.96

00:45:35.600 some bullshit like that 1.00

00:45:37.100 for sensuality 1.00

00:45:39.580 I want to be turned on still

00:45:41.860 at Disneyland

00:45:42.380 you never know who I might meet in line

00:45:45.320 well exactly

00:45:46.700 that's also gone I think

00:45:49.260 I'll be wearing

00:45:53.460 I can see the sneaker in my eye.

00:45:55.120 Did I tell you that I had to return a sneaker twice

00:45:57.020 because of the shoe size?

00:45:57.940 I said this.

00:45:58.220 Sure did, baby.

00:45:59.020 I already passed out.

00:45:59.660 In the content you haven't reviewed.

00:46:02.340 I was trying to,

00:46:04.520 but first of all,

00:46:05.300 I want to be very clear.

00:46:07.060 I am a massive repeater.

00:46:09.020 It generates to a point of,

00:46:10.960 like, I feel like I can talk six minutes straight,

00:46:14.260 same sentences.

00:46:15.120 Repetition.

00:46:15.740 I love repetition in music.

00:46:17.160 I like repetition.

00:46:18.420 I enjoy repetition.

00:46:20.020 I enjoy forcing it on others.

00:46:23.300 But Disneyland, I just think that's going to be fun.

00:46:27.700 That's all I have to say.

00:46:28.680 I'm wondering about, you got to think about what,

00:46:32.400 well, this is a huge topic for me.

00:46:34.180 We're going to really get into it.

00:46:35.540 Sunscreen?

00:46:37.020 Well, what kind of purse? 0.98

00:46:39.400 You do not want to be a fool when you're getting on a serious ride 1.00

00:46:43.320 with a bunch of bullshit. 1.00

00:46:45.020 You also don't. 1.00

00:46:45.960 Tote?

00:46:46.740 No.

00:46:47.360 It goes flying out. 0.99

00:46:47.860 No, you're not going to have something on one shoulder hauling your ass around. 0.97

00:46:51.320 there's one answer and one answer only 0.99

00:46:53.460 fanny pack 0.79

00:46:54.360 and it's not just for the moms

00:46:57.340 and the granddads

00:46:58.380 I have a Patagonia fanny pack that I will bring

00:47:00.500 yeah I think it is

00:47:02.940 a fanny pack

00:47:04.980 and our SPF will be in there

00:47:07.420 wonderful get high

00:47:08.680 I won't I want it pure

00:47:10.480 I actually haven't been high

00:47:13.280 in months

00:47:13.960 it's not like I've had to resist

00:47:16.620 marijuana you mean

00:47:18.180 I haven't consumed THC

00:47:20.460 honestly I gotta say I think it's been

00:47:22.440 I could actually do it the math

00:47:24.380 why not just do it here I am

00:47:25.600 like 8 months

00:47:27.140 I haven't had THC since

00:47:30.500 remember when I went off the gummies

00:47:32.100 the restless leg gummies I was going to sleep on

00:47:34.100 I think I might get back into it

00:47:36.280 I just truly because I can't work

00:47:38.600 I can't perform and be

00:47:40.240 ingesting THC

00:47:42.400 and I was working for so long

00:47:44.640 that I just naturally couldn't be high

00:47:45.980 but now I'm

00:47:48.320 unemployed again

00:47:49.860 I don't know why you'd need to get back into it.

00:47:52.980 I don't know why you'd want, like, actively try to, like, add it to the, like, hey, like, why don't we add that in?

00:47:58.460 No, just for fun.

00:47:59.260 I was like, you know, it could be fun tonight having a night in alone.

00:48:01.620 Sure.

00:48:02.320 I was thinking I could maybe take a couple hits of a Drew Martin low-dose joint, writhe in my bathtub, read some Ann Carson and cry a little.

00:48:13.820 Yeah, I don't, I've never really enjoyed the marijuana high.

00:48:18.980 yeah interesting like there are times where it was like okay well yeah something anything you

00:48:23.840 know like where i'm like i want to have experiences sure i don't know i don't know wait but wait but

00:48:28.940 i wanted to go back i've had a good time i want to talk about i want to talk about amusement park

00:48:34.820 more okay okay so so one you will be in a proper shoe i will not be slowed down i'm okay i had to

00:48:40.300 hit off a joint last week i keep going what who cares could you remember or did you remember

00:48:45.540 earlier when you were trying to do the math on how many months? No, just now. So you located,

00:48:52.400 you know, a truth, not a lot. And I'd say I took a hit in Jamaica too. Didn't get high though. 0.68

00:48:58.780 Okay. You know what I'm trying to say? Basically haven't touched the stuff in a while. Okay. Keep

00:49:02.560 going. Keep going. Shoes. So yeah, there will be no accommodating, like, you know, whatever,

00:49:09.840 Anything that you do for style slowing us down at Disney will not be acceptable.

00:49:17.920 Okay.

00:49:18.080 If you show up with anything that could slow us down.

00:49:21.140 Okay.

00:49:21.620 Listen, I'm going to have a fanny pack.

00:49:23.940 I'm going to have tennis shoes.

00:49:25.020 Good.

00:49:25.760 Now, the next question.

00:49:26.960 How do you feel about rollercoaster deaths?

00:49:30.680 Because they're real.

00:49:32.980 I have no interest in a serious rollercoaster.

00:49:34.960 There aren't real rollercoasters.

00:49:36.900 Aren't they all like for babies?

00:49:37.940 What do you mean rollercoaster deaths?

00:49:39.840 Dying on a coaster?

00:49:40.980 Yeah.

00:49:42.020 Well, I don't, we're not going to, they don't have brain rattlers at Disneyland.

00:49:46.260 They have something I saw.

00:49:48.720 I was looking going, because I was like, so as a kid, you know, I faced the fear of the roller coasters and kind of enjoyed it in a classic sense.

00:49:57.080 And my observational humor at the age of eight was that the loop-de-loops actually aren't the scary part.

00:50:05.080 Because those were like, oh, that's the scariest one here.

00:50:07.480 It's got a loop-de-loop.

00:50:08.460 You go upside down.

00:50:09.260 I've never gone upside down in a rollercoaster.

00:50:11.480 The upside down is nothing.

00:50:12.800 It feels like you're just like, ah, it's like nothing.

00:50:15.400 It doesn't feel like anything.

00:50:16.680 You know what remains the most heinous thing ever?

00:50:19.360 The drop.

00:50:19.740 The drop. 0.94

00:50:20.160 The drop. 0.94

00:50:20.800 The drop. 1.00

00:50:21.240 Oh, fuck. 1.00

00:50:22.140 The drop is hell. 1.00

00:50:22.700 Just hearing it.

00:50:23.960 There is, I mean, let's, can we talk about the drop for a few minutes?

00:50:27.420 Can we talk about teetering at the top of a rollercoaster?

00:50:29.400 The last time I was at the drop, so I rode the cyclone quite a few times at Coney Island.

00:50:33.820 Yes.

00:50:34.260 Many, many years ago. 0.99

00:50:35.760 And that thing is, that will fucking rock you. 0.99

00:50:38.060 That's whiplash. 0.99

00:50:39.260 it's barely held together wait you know what's genius um joey gay had a joke that was genius

00:50:45.600 about i believe about uh wait what was it called what is it the the cyclone at coney island

00:50:51.440 about like going and being like going and being like waiting in line the cyclone the whole thing

00:50:57.800 and being like this is my 100th ride on the cyclone like this i've done it i'm doing it

00:51:03.700 this is my 100th ride you know like getting people really excited that he's done this many times and

00:51:07.600 it gets on and they start going up up up up and he goes oh what's that noise

00:51:11.140 it's genius that's good i love it and then i remember i'm sure i've said this on food but

00:51:21.560 i ride plainland going up going up a roller coaster with my dad like going

00:51:24.880 and like this is you know when you like make a joke as a child and it's not that well received

00:51:31.640 so I was I was like making a joke like the joke I was making was to yell out um you know I was

00:51:39.260 scared going up the ride so the joke I was was like to yell like let me off the ride this is

00:51:43.920 child abuse okay but I kept yelling this is child abuse oh okay okay yeah again my dad was like

00:51:49.260 you know like don't yell that like yeah yeah and um you get to the top okay and 0.99

00:51:59.260 you go down and it hits oh fuck the tension in the stomach and it's like this 0.86

00:52:05.440 right i don't know what my dad once said try i was like what do you do about that feeling 0.98

00:52:13.360 in the stomach it's hell and he was like just relax the stomach instead he goes try falling

00:52:18.180 in love doll he goes just relax the stomach instead of trying to tense up against it

00:52:24.760 I tried that once

00:52:26.340 literal hell

00:52:27.800 oh just to let it go

00:52:29.120 no

00:52:29.460 the only thing is to brace the stomach

00:52:31.400 yeah you can't just

00:52:31.820 and it still kills

00:52:33.620 like it's hell 0.66

00:52:35.480 the only

00:52:36.280 the only satisfaction is that

00:52:38.500 to hold the stomach up

00:52:40.160 like it's not scary

00:52:40.960 it's pain

00:52:41.740 that's I guess what I'm trying to say

00:52:45.020 yeah

00:52:46.660 yeah

00:52:48.220 well I don't

00:52:49.020 for some reason I

00:52:49.940 I was under the impression

00:52:51.020 Disneyland didn't have any

00:52:51.920 true coasters

00:52:52.780 I looked and I saw

00:52:54.300 and there was something called something

00:52:55.800 and I saw a big old drop.

00:52:58.180 Big drop.

00:52:58.840 Classic drop.

00:52:59.700 I don't want to do a big drop.

00:53:00.880 All right, good.

00:53:01.740 I'm glad to hear that.

00:53:04.020 I don't need it.

00:53:05.280 I don't need that.

00:53:05.880 I want like fun ice cream.

00:53:09.900 Stuff like that.

00:53:10.640 I want like Pirates of the Caribbean animatronic.

00:53:14.540 Okay.

00:53:15.360 I want,

00:53:16.360 I do enjoy something like

00:53:18.620 that's sort of like rattling,

00:53:20.020 like a bouncing train,

00:53:21.300 whatever that one is.

00:53:22.560 I think there's one like that.

00:53:23.580 Yeah, I want to be immersed in theater.

00:53:25.480 Exactly.

00:53:27.780 Set design.

00:53:30.440 But I do want to talk about rollercoaster deaths

00:53:32.460 if we haven't talked about them and injury on this podcast.

00:53:35.820 I don't think we have.

00:53:36.840 They're real.

00:53:37.640 They happen.

00:53:38.820 How common are they?

00:53:40.740 You mean just someone just passes out dead in the thing?

00:53:43.920 You wish.

00:53:44.580 You mean like six people are released upside down?

00:53:48.120 Yeah, I'm a little more like that. 1.00

00:53:49.640 Oh, fuck. 1.00

00:53:51.020 Okay. 1.00

00:53:52.000 It fucking happens. 0.99

00:53:53.580 I mean like 1.00

00:53:54.720 I'm surprised you don't

00:53:55.340 just sign a release

00:53:56.060 every time you go

00:53:56.580 into an amusement park

00:53:57.540 I think you do

00:53:58.280 you probably do

00:53:58.820 when you buy the ticket huh

00:53:59.740 when you pay

00:54:00.340 oh yeah of course

00:54:01.880 I mean I think you are

00:54:02.780 essentially

00:54:03.380 of course

00:54:03.800 what am I talking about 0.99

00:54:04.480 but shit happens 0.98

00:54:05.140 I mean I actually did 0.99

00:54:06.780 as a gag

00:54:08.180 to myself

00:54:09.280 when we were planning

00:54:10.120 this trip

00:54:10.520 I did look up

00:54:11.500 Disney Fatalities

00:54:12.580 what did you see

00:54:13.380 you know

00:54:13.880 they go by year

00:54:14.620 and the whole thing

00:54:15.300 and some of them

00:54:17.040 we have to end this up though

00:54:19.000 because

00:54:19.440 oh right

00:54:20.180 the rest of it's going to be

00:54:21.180 used for next week

00:54:21.880 okay

00:54:22.100 we need to sign off

00:54:23.440 Okay, to be continued.

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