Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - November 16, 2021


Poog Air

Relinquish the Olive Poogiversary!

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59 minutes

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11,060

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183

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Misogyny

6

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00:00:04.420 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.
00:00:08.020 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune.
00:00:11.960 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.
00:00:15.780 No, I am not your guru.
00:00:19.420 Back then, I lied to everybody.
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00:00:24.660 I'm going back to my hometown to uncover the truth.
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00:01:34.840 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.
00:01:36.280 I'm Jacqueline Novak.
00:01:37.380 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.
00:01:42.100 Two untamable intellects.
00:01:43.860 This is our hobby. 0.97
00:01:44.700 This is our hell.
00:01:45.560 This is our naked desire for free products.
00:01:47.840 This is POOG.
00:01:49.240 Today's topic, loosely speaking.
00:01:50.640 The door from 1904.
00:01:53.060 Under the rug.
00:01:54.000 everyone is you okay should we just record we are we are recording we are and i'm interested
00:02:00.200 in talking about your towel situation and how to face oh yeah no i have a lot to say
00:02:03.860 so first of all has has there been movement on extermination or have you been hesitating
00:02:11.800 i'm sorry we are in poog okay okay listen listen for everyone who's listening
00:02:19.080 i love oh my god okay so those listening i posted on the poog instagram yesterday i found as you
00:02:28.500 know if you're if you're just joining us i have had i came home after being gone for months and
00:02:33.600 there were moths in my home clothing moths i checked the pantry folks there was nothing in
00:02:37.680 the rice nothing in the pasta they were located in my bedroom shockingly not in the closet
00:02:42.080 i found the mother source i had an old rug rolled up under my bed
00:02:46.600 ew the metaphor is not lost on me and i i mean you threw it outside i know i know i threw it
00:02:55.760 i threw it outside and i said i'm gonna deal with this in the morning and then yesterday morning i
00:03:00.740 went out and looked at it and there were larva dancing wildly in the folds of the rug i haven't
00:03:05.960 fully unfurled it because it was so i also i'm terrified of bugs but i'm also of course fascinated
00:03:12.680 by them and i wish i could stare at them behind a plexiglass like i want to observe them from a
00:03:16.780 safe distance yeah and so like i love when i can see a wasp through glass like like my ideal would
00:03:22.460 be like to like observe like i love that so yeah i saw a bug on the outside of my window at the
00:03:28.400 hotel it was very high up and i briefly worried for it like is it is it afraid for its life
00:03:32.380 anyway that's a level of empathy i don't have for the larva but i i have none for the larva
00:03:38.700 i have none for the larva so on the story and i was praying for 24 hours to pass so they would
00:03:43.480 leave okay i was texting jacqueline i was flying high on the metaphor jacqueline was reminding me
00:03:48.780 we have to live symbolically i was looking up the symbolism behind moths going toward the light
00:03:52.400 seeking transformation i thought this makes complete sense for me right now
00:03:55.940 and i and i felt and i felt free and euphoric okay and then today i go we got to go deeper
00:04:03.160 i start going through my towels i have all these clean towels folded up thought i was something
00:04:08.080 thought i was a woman with a stack of gorgeous white clean towels i there are dead mollets all
00:04:14.280 over them ew so i just i i just calmly said okay and i took trash bags i put every singer every 0.96
00:04:21.280 singer i put every single towel in the trash bags and now i'm frozen because what do i fucking do 0.84
00:04:29.160 because i i have to look this up washing them doesn't feel like enough i also have i like 0.95
00:04:35.720 hoarded towels over the over the years so i have towels from like my high school bedroom
00:04:39.180 yeah you know and i'm kind of like is this an opportunity to just shed but i also feel like
00:04:44.260 that's wasting money like some of these towels some of my newer towels i got in the last like
00:04:48.140 two years so i feel insane just like donating feel in well i don't know if you want to donate
00:04:55.640 them unless you are sure that well i would i would be like no but if you don't think washing
00:05:00.420 them is enough for you like if you don't believe that washing no i think washing them probably is
00:05:04.720 enough but i also have mentally horrible laundry situation i have a laundry room in like a dungeon
00:05:09.740 and it's deeply emotional for me to go down there i mean i go down there let's unpack that because
00:05:14.800 i'm not i'm not ready i'm not sold on you know you having an in-home washer and dryer being a
00:05:20.340 devastating scenario that we can't even consider as an option but if you saw my basement and listen
00:05:25.860 it's not insulated from the outdoors and i there have been rats down there you see i'm saying like
00:05:30.960 this is really this is no i'm not saying it's great but i like but i want to like i want to
00:05:35.520 drop in it's like when i appreciate it i need to on the on the road and i was trying to work on my
00:05:40.520 merch cart and needed some like plastic drawers from the local hardware store to stick the merch
00:05:47.500 and so it'd be easy to grab and like there was like a single bug in one of them and i was like
00:05:53.060 perhaps i was premenstrual i was tired and i just like said to tour manager emma i was like
00:05:58.100 I was like like I just sighed in the store and put them away because I saw a single bug in them
00:06:02.520 I was just like I was just like it's just this isn't gonna work for me or something you know
00:06:08.260 like just when pure exhaustion like I know when you've been beaten down and like and she was like
00:06:12.520 we can get wipes like we can clean it and I was like I don't know if it's gonna be enough
00:06:17.940 no thank you for thank you for yes but anyway so it's like let's take a second right are you
00:06:23.920 afraid so here's a question like i don't fear rats or anything in the same way in daytime okay
00:06:30.760 but i might at night like if you were down in there and it's not insulate usually not to
00:06:35.520 is there a door there's a door from 1904 like literally from 1904 and well congrats first of
00:06:43.680 all yeah thank you and um um what i'm saying is that door open a little sun okay slipping in
00:06:52.060 me down there chuckling with you okay oh that sounds great yeah if you want to come if you
00:06:57.120 want to come laugh with me if you want right then you can do it so so there are ways that it can be
00:07:01.400 done okay you're you're opening up a door here i see it's more me oh yeah i'm not saying you have
00:07:08.960 to do it all yourself okay bless you like so let's like look at some other options first of all
00:07:13.660 professional consultation about the moths yeah you and i'm starting to feel true i'm starting
00:07:20.040 to feel that this is so painfully boring i can't have this be what pook is i'm sorry well you're a 0.99
00:07:26.540 fool okay because it's gripping okay you're a fool and it's gripping okay you need okay maybe 0.99
00:07:31.680 if you let go and dive in with me okay just listen to me this is big and ever and you put those 1.00
00:07:38.000 goddamn larvae okay yeah i can't say larvae it's too disgusting on our feed okay i know okay and 0.98
00:07:44.760 So now we're going to have to look at him, I guess. 0.99
00:07:47.400 Yeah.
00:07:48.100 No, but I just want to, these are, people deal with these things, all right?
00:07:51.240 So like, and it's interesting to me, the question being, did you call?
00:07:55.700 Because I literally, I went into Google.
00:07:58.440 I pulled up Orkin man and I sent you the direct link. 0.98
00:08:01.500 I called, remember my corpse flesh fly, my flesh fly incident? 0.98
00:08:07.300 I called my flesh fly man, texted him, I emailed nothing, hurtful.
00:08:11.500 and then i called for this place it was like a local place and oh that's funny because you may
00:08:17.900 recall when i sent you orkin you said don't go boutique don't go boutique we do not need a hip 0.86
00:08:23.840 fucking this wasn't hip honey this was and by the way i was talking to her for like five minutes and 0.93
00:08:28.860 all of a sudden i was like oh it sounds like you're underwater she's like oh yeah the connection 0.97
00:08:32.300 can be kind of and then she just like went away it's just like let me guess what was the
00:08:36.820 recommendation spritz lemon juice no she's she said it would be a spray i'd have to leave the
00:08:42.180 house for four hours so talk about poison has its place i'm like let's get the poison in here i want
00:08:46.880 them out of course um all right so and then what happened so she slipped away wait there's also
00:08:53.320 another context for this that i think the listener should know yeah which is that the hot water
00:08:58.260 completely broke in my house two days ago today's day three no shower okay and so i came home
00:09:04.980 the moths overtook me i was in bed laying there now in retrospect the horror of me in bed
00:09:13.400 catching up on succession while a larva infested rug pulsates beneath me and moths fly disgusting
00:09:21.820 it's unimaginable and so and then as you cackled at succession that night i took a shower i was like
00:09:28.120 the water's not getting that hot i was upset i texted my friend who'd been staying here like
00:09:31.660 did you have trouble she's no the next morning water's just hot water's just gone so i'm on day
00:09:36.120 three no shower those close to me know that water for me is the source of all life so i
00:09:41.180 i take at least a shower a day but here's something incredible jacklyn i have no bo
00:09:48.180 and this is something i woke up and i thought i gotta talk about this on the show because
00:09:52.900 i what if i'm over showering because you feel like when you shower you have it worse
00:09:58.720 i what do you use under there so i have been using oh i actually want to shout them out
00:10:05.060 because i would love some free product lume l-u-m-e it's like a natural deodorant i don't
00:10:11.100 know but it's fine it's a little thick but but i think it's good but the point is how could i be
00:10:20.240 day three no bo do you know what i mean was just using like a natural deodorant that normally
00:10:26.500 I would think is you know normally wouldn't work for me well you know we discussed sort of the
00:10:31.020 natural deodorant thing um many moons ago on on poog and of course and talking about how they so
00:10:37.240 rarely work and then of course a lot of people reached out with their recs and I was like I
00:10:41.040 scoffed at them because I scoffed at their recs I've always been I've always been wronged and I
00:10:45.080 want to say apparently there was just an article that came out in the times about how basically
00:10:50.000 being like antiperspirant is not carcinogenic like this fear of like aluminum or something which
00:10:55.960 take that with what paid for by big aluminum i know paid for did you happen to notice the
00:11:03.020 aluminum foil ad that took up six pages at the back of the times all right
00:11:07.200 okay but listen you are listening but okay so i just wanted to give the the listener context of
00:11:15.440 my my kind of feeling i particularly despondent this morning of the no hot water i'm ready to
00:11:20.000 shower i'm really ready to shower can i say something that's a poog kind of i'm in poog
00:11:26.400 mind and so here we are yeah maybe it's a great opportunity for you to explore the vim hof method
00:11:31.160 etc oh trust me i will be hoffing later because i was almost going to text john and be like can i
00:11:37.160 come over and take a shower and i thought just do the cold water it's completely possible to do
00:11:43.240 so i will be doing that later because i'm also going to kind of fun later a lot it is kind of
00:11:47.220 exciting um yeah i'm excited no i mean yeah and i mean they're they're the benefits oh i got i got
00:11:55.680 can i just show you as to shock you i'm going to show you and you can narrate for the listener
00:11:59.820 because i got a new device i haven't even told you about you ready what i'll show you hold on
00:12:04.100 i think it's worth it i think it's worth the i really think it's worth this all right time
00:12:15.420 Wow, what's coming?
00:12:18.740 Take my mic with me.
00:12:20.900 We're going to manage the sound.
00:12:23.680 Okay, we've lost contact.
00:12:25.500 Okay, there.
00:12:26.700 No!
00:12:27.520 Oh, wow.
00:12:28.680 There's been a tumble.
00:12:30.020 What was that?
00:12:30.580 That is shocking.
00:12:31.380 That was the laptop.
00:12:32.720 You've fallen. 0.99
00:12:33.580 You've fallen into a ridiculous position. 0.99
00:12:35.540 All right. 0.97
00:12:36.700 To have that caught on film, pretty unbelievable.
00:12:40.640 Texting?
00:12:41.860 Mm-hmm.
00:12:42.100 I'm looking because in my horror
00:12:44.920 I um
00:12:46.100 Oh my god
00:12:47.600 My food's here
00:12:49.440 I just ordered Postmates
00:12:50.820 As you know I never order delivery
00:12:52.480 Oh my god
00:12:53.200 I don't know why you think that's a brag
00:12:54.920 Keep on going
00:12:55.720 Alright go get it
00:12:56.720 Her disdain clearly 1.00
00:13:00.500 Like to I guess not cook up a yam 1.00
00:13:03.460 But instead get some food delivered
00:13:05.500 My one true pleasure in life 0.99
00:13:06.800 There she goes I'm so happy for it
00:13:08.620 I can hear that the bag is light though
00:13:10.300 I can hear the bag is light really what did she get a bag of a bag of arugula
00:13:18.080 I got two really heavy bags of delivery recently and one of them had my Chinese food in it
00:13:25.720 and then the other one was so heavy and I got so excited that and then I discovered that I said I
00:13:31.600 knew you'd come in talking me and the listener actually having a conversation so just saying
00:13:35.980 your bag sounded light I was saying your bag sounded light like I could hear that the delivery
00:13:39.840 bag was light. I was saying the other night in the hotel, I got a, um, I got Chinese food
00:13:43.760 delivery and there was two bags and they were so heavy. And then I remembered sadly that
00:13:47.760 I'd ordered four bottles of water cause I'd run out of the hotel's supply and that was
00:13:52.640 creating some of the heaviness. All right. So are you ready? You have to narrate for
00:13:59.160 the listener now. Okay. You're not doing it. I don't give me a second. I need to take
00:14:05.740 four bites so i don't completely die on air okay hold on obviously we'll cut the crunching 0.98
00:14:15.040 chewing it's awful okay jacqueline's lying down
00:14:23.380 are your feet are your feet in
00:14:28.180 you'll see momentarily your ankles are supported by some kind of it's like when you okay and we've
00:14:35.360 fallen again this is some of the finest arguably like journalism about laptops falling that has
00:14:45.740 ever been put on on air the fact that you've now experienced it twice all right you ready
00:14:49.640 okay whoa what you purchased this yep okay so jacqueline's ankles are elevated
00:15:01.560 oh is it a restless leg thing
00:15:03.920 okay i'm also capturing video for um the instagram so jacqueline's legs are dancing wildly
00:15:16.480 in a um it's called the chi vitalizer okay so it's just rocking your legs back and forth
00:15:26.340 back and forth and it's creating a wave-like motion that emanates all the way up through
00:15:31.060 the spine really oh how does that feel now it feels great and now i got it because we've been
00:15:37.140 around since the 80s which and saul goodman on breaking bad i think has one or on well i'm not
00:15:42.540 it looks like it's from the 80s yeah and and you know sometimes in the wellness world
00:15:47.220 you have to go what's been working and i was reading reviews and people are like
00:15:51.900 you know this saved me in the 80s and i just pulled it out of my closet or whatever
00:15:56.040 and saved me again i got it because when my restless legs are really bad
00:16:01.660 i need someone punching them removing them or whatever but i need to be able to go to sleep
00:16:07.860 with my face i mean in my head so i actually think that my body moving wildly i could actually 0.75
00:16:12.360 fall asleep like this i was gonna say you haven't yet slept with your no this arrived last night i
00:16:18.160 plugged it in today now you see my feet is that all you see i only see your feet
00:16:25.700 i see your legs as well i mean i see your feet and legs
00:16:31.660 okay oh wow okay now i'm gonna you know what else is supposed to be good for show this what
00:16:39.140 digestion you're kidding oh see how i'm getting wiggled around that's cool
00:16:46.900 i'll absolutely be trying that out moving lymph if you think this isn't moving that's true i can
00:16:52.880 imagine i mean now what's hilarious is classically they also some people are like it's exercise
00:16:59.480 and it's like i was gonna say it reminds me of whatever that machine was where people
00:17:02.980 Oh, yeah, the vibrating belt.
00:17:05.800 Which, geniusly in Mad Men, remember, was sort of revealed to be, like, a masturbatory device. 0.72
00:17:10.460 Yeah, of course, yeah.
00:17:11.440 That was genius.
00:17:14.160 But anyway, I'm really excited about it.
00:17:17.220 It's going to fit nicely into any routine where I do six other things at once.
00:17:21.660 Do you know what I mean?
00:17:22.180 Yeah, yeah.
00:17:22.940 Like, six healing modalities at a time.
00:17:24.840 Well, you can read on that.
00:17:26.540 That looks really nice.
00:17:27.900 Like, what if I were in a heat blanket with my feet sticking out on that?
00:17:31.920 Well, that wouldn't be probably quite right, but you got to keep that heat in.
00:17:36.860 I love it.
00:17:38.900 Anyway, I just really thought it'd be exciting to show you.
00:17:41.900 Wait, did we ever go to break?
00:17:43.140 We never went to break.
00:17:44.320 This is now act two.
00:17:46.600 Yeah, I guess we could throw, okay, we must do break now in, and that can be edited in
00:17:52.700 earlier if we really want.
00:17:54.660 Okay, I'll do one of those right now.
00:17:55.980 So let's do one of those.
00:17:56.840 Okay.
00:17:59.580 No, seriously, we do have to go to break.
00:18:01.200 Yeah, yeah, okay. We gotta go right now. We gotta break.
00:18:03.920 We'll get right back into it, though.
00:18:07.340 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.
00:18:11.400 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.
00:18:16.640 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune.
00:18:20.520 It was hard to wrap your head around. It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.
00:18:25.480 No, I am not your guru.
00:18:28.680 and back then i lied to my parents i lied to police i lied to everybody there were years
00:18:35.100 right where i could not say your name i've decided to go back to my hometown in northern
00:18:39.040 california interview my friends family talk to police journalists whomever i can to try to find
00:18:44.280 out what actually happened isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods
00:18:48.900 and not the obvious boyfriend they have had this case for 30 years i'll teach you sons of
00:18:54.540 You come around, you're in my way.
00:18:56.500 Boom, boom.
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00:19:42.580 Also, I hope the listeners are impressed, those listening,
00:19:45.880 by how much I didn't get upset about my laptop crashing twice.
00:19:49.860 I just think that's worth noting.
00:19:51.240 You know, I didn't even notice that because yeah, if you have your laptop or if your laptop
00:19:57.260 is dangling kind of precariously on the edge of your bed, do you scoop in there to save
00:20:01.480 it?
00:20:01.620 Or do you kind of, I sort of have this disdain for like, for protecting it?
00:20:08.800 No, no.
00:20:09.560 Like, yeah.
00:20:11.140 I don't have disdain toward the urge to protect technology.
00:20:14.300 I think that makes sense.
00:20:15.060 but I'm kind of careless with like my laptop I think I have some anger toward it and so 1.00
00:20:20.920 when I see it like dangling I'm like go for it bitch fall like I feel this almost anger 0.93
00:20:26.620 and I actually had this moment today that I was looking through stuff for the moths 0.99
00:20:30.540 I found this article I found this like old blanket thing and I thought
00:20:34.920 I almost want there to be moths in here so I have to get rid of this
00:20:38.780 well welcome to profundity and it's high because yeah that is I mean talk about that's like people
00:20:47.820 fighting before they go away to wherever college or something because right right right leave it's
00:20:53.620 easier to leave if you're fighting um and then I and then it's hard for me because I feel that I'm
00:21:00.120 I have I'm wasteful like I you know it's something that I struggle with and so
00:21:05.980 i can't throw away the towels i need i just have to i'll just look it up how to wash them and all
00:21:12.240 of that right as we speak a bug just walked by
00:21:14.660 so the hot water so i just want everyone to understand the hot water with the moths also
00:21:21.860 it's a gorgeous day i can't go outside because of the they're replacing the hot water heater
00:21:26.840 thank god but i can't leave i'm feeling a little overwhelmed by that you don't think you could sit
00:21:31.480 outside while that's happening of course of course of course of course i mean you just mean like you
00:21:37.180 have to wait because they're gonna appear at some time and you don't know when like they're here i
00:21:41.200 can hear no no they're down there already let them in but i'm gonna have a new energetic space
00:21:45.820 that i'm inhabiting i need to slough off the dead larva the energy of the larva which have overtaken
00:21:52.120 me you mean that have overtaken act one or is that what you mean i don't mean it okay thank you i'm
00:21:58.440 comfortable with it once again your your self-consciousness i'm self-conscious about
00:22:02.660 it completely laughable when i blaze ahead with with you know my various performative flaws with
00:22:08.780 no apology i just don't know if it's good content i just think they deserve better content
00:22:14.480 i think me and my moths i don't know kate i think you and your moths are pretty essential
00:22:19.140 i mean they're but but i think i just want to address the question of like okay 0.92
00:22:23.660 let's get everything fabric yeah get it out into a got into a series of goddamn bags 0.97
00:22:31.640 then you decide are those gonna go be laundered yeah you know am i gonna burn them in a 0.98
00:22:38.780 shell grave yeah whatever but get everything that is contaminated i say you get everything
00:22:43.900 that you know could be contaminated or do not like if you're hoping for mods in it
00:22:49.560 then I think it needs to go into the whatever pile yeah and then so you gather everything that
00:22:55.540 that that is either going to be dumped or laundered then and of course by dumped I mean
00:23:01.340 donated okay yeah but and then you you invite them in and they spray you spend four hours
00:23:08.880 at the grove oh with you having a cocktail so you get it all out I knew that I could
00:23:13.340 seduce you into this plan if i come with you like that's all and i will feel so knowing that
00:23:19.840 they're spraying having that and like leaving i'm going to meet you at the grove to have an
00:23:24.840 aperol spritz and like yes hit nordstroms yes and knowing that promise that yes and knowing that
00:23:32.160 the fabrics the questionable fabrics that they're not going to like spray essentially right they're
00:23:36.420 going to bomb the place which i guess would technically get the fabrics but i just think
00:23:39.640 you want all linens yeah completely taken out and handled separately and then the space in which
00:23:45.720 they're going to be sprayed yeah you're completely correct and i will say i went through my closet
00:23:51.060 today and it was okay in there which is such a gift because it can mean i would be devastated
00:23:57.240 if the clothes were ruined i mean just the endless vintage designer i mean no it's that's actually
00:24:02.160 it's almost like why it's almost like why would i be upset my clothes are actually sort of okay
00:24:06.700 it's just the anyway i'm gonna have hot water oh you were disappointed because you were hoping
00:24:12.340 that it would push you into sorry i missed that i thought no no i still feel like it's pushing me
00:24:16.060 into shedding things which is very good and i need to get rid of probably 70 percent of my
00:24:22.540 belongings i mean and yeah yeah i mean they they need to go and i there is a feeling of the the
00:24:30.440 anxiety over waste and throwing things away so overpowering that i it it's much more likely
00:24:36.940 like if you're debating whether i have to hold on to something get rid of it is the actual answer
00:24:41.940 like the debate is the answer the debate is the answer oh wow the open mouth the thought
00:24:48.760 and then wait i had an idea when you said that um
00:24:53.740 oh well here's something remember something unused rotting in your closet is not not wasteful
00:25:02.520 like completely it's one thing to like you're not trying to fill a landfill okay yeah and like that
00:25:09.620 you know that sense like um like you know like taking responsibility for the items that you've
00:25:16.320 procured and figuring out what their end of life plan is yeah have you like a kind of interesting
00:25:21.780 language like i literally don't know how to pronounce it g-o-l-d-u-n-e who actually sent
00:25:28.620 us gift cards very generously they have all these sustainable things i'm saying the name of the
00:25:34.060 company i don't remember a gift card golden i know i've tried to remind you multiple times because
00:25:39.880 i've like i've already benefited off of the the um the gift card and i'm like kate money on the
00:25:47.460 table kate but anyway it's all this it's sustainable and then everything has like an
00:25:51.540 end of life kind of like um like explanation but wait what's sustainable when you send back to
00:25:57.180 all it's a curation it's a website that curates all kind of all like home goods i think they're
00:26:04.320 like tag is like i think it's um it's something like sustainable but not granola or whatever you
00:26:11.120 know what i mean like it's like because that's been like a problem sort of i have to say because
00:26:15.340 still completely unclear what it is it's a website full of goods home goods okay self goods life
00:26:22.240 lifestyle goods but it's curated got it with sustainability in mind and it'll have like end
00:26:30.020 of life directions like like whoa this part is recycled this way this part's recycled this way
00:26:35.040 this part's you know this part you send back to us and we whatever it's it's i'm pretty excited
00:26:40.320 about it frankly that's cool i just did a spray of um um citrine this no this drew martin um it's
00:26:50.040 like the first like cannabis infused fragrance but smells really nice it smells like christmas i'm
00:26:54.580 very fragrance you know i'm very sensitive to that and it's it's nice anyway you noticed i know we
00:27:00.140 say it gets earlier and earlier every year people start putting out the trees and whatever and i
00:27:04.360 feel like quarantine helped that because it was like well i'm not waiting i'm starting and then
00:27:09.440 like mariah carey released like a tiktok thing about like with christmas so i feel like it's
00:27:15.240 this year it's begun i'm ready for it like yeah i think it's begun it's no longer like i thought i
00:27:21.080 was really proud of being this like yeah the first day after christmas that's when my tree goes up
00:27:25.100 like this kind of like first day after that was really or first day after thanksgiving oh yeah
00:27:28.740 and i kind of remember in movies like people having um like like at thanksgiving scenes in
00:27:37.460 movies like the christmas stuff already being up and that's sort of confusing me
00:27:40.820 do you know what i'm talking about i guess or maybe i'm thinking of turkey at thanksgiving
00:27:45.020 confusing me like norman rockwell paintings where it's a big turkey do you think that's christmas
00:27:49.860 well i've seen it and i was like i thought ham was christmas now that's not something my family
00:27:56.020 ever did but like in movies so i'm cutting into my mother does a ham it's so great you should
00:28:03.320 have a little Christmas party. That's why you pushed ham. I would love to. That's why you
00:28:06.560 push ham for Thanksgiving. Yeah. Well, I mean, I just snobbery. You're like turkey, of course,
00:28:11.380 is a dry and one of the least good meats around. So I will not be doing a turkey. Um, when we were
00:28:16.640 talking about Thanksgiving last year. I'd rather do pork shoulder. By the way, Jacqueline, I'm
00:28:19.840 devastated. You're out of town for Thanksgiving because I wanted to do Thanksgiving with you.
00:28:22.920 Wow. Um, okay. I have a little, this is kind of fun because today is a bit heavy, but I refuse to
00:28:28.620 apologize um I've been loving in my coffee in the morning this um coconut milk that's like comes in
00:28:36.980 a little box I believe it's imported from Thailand it's like very it's so creamy and thick and insane
00:28:43.220 and like you open it and you have to use it within three days but it's sensational and I will be
00:28:47.160 posting it I think it's you know um I'm gonna find the brand but you would love it maybe I mean
00:28:55.340 have i mean i gotta get some butter to put in my bone broth i've been drinking they sent us um
00:29:00.420 what are the uh the beauty and the broth sent us some bone broth and um wait okay hey whoa whoa 0.99
00:29:06.760 whoa huge question where the fuck is my broth okay let me think about that where the fuck is 0.98
00:29:12.560 your broth oh the only thing i can think of is that i have to maybe they came to me for the 0.99
00:29:19.560 broth because i was pushing the agenda of broth well i would love related to my show in new york
00:29:26.460 well of course but i like about broth being what i would drink backstage blah blah and so like
00:29:30.420 maybe that maybe it wasn't technically a poog that's fair that's fair i mean look i i really
00:29:36.820 try not to get anything i nearly panicked i nearly panicked when i thought that i had received a goop
00:29:43.280 um sex love and goop package that you had that had been like that you hadn't potentially
00:29:49.140 i like broke the news to you i this is obnoxious that was really beautiful and sweet i want to say 0.99
00:29:55.480 the sex love and goop box is insane yeah i mean i i'm gonna watch the show i'm curious i know all 0.62
00:30:03.820 we do is beg for free stuff and yet i'm still embarrassed by like being i texted you i'm 0.68
00:30:07.600 cackling i'm like this is insane the the absolute glory of it all and it said from gwyneth you know
00:30:12.700 and that was this you that little signature who knows who wrote that but it doesn't matter 0.98
00:30:16.920 doesn't matter she approved someone and i will be watching the the goop sex show um 0.55
00:30:23.040 oh okay so the coconut milk we love arroyo d i'm gonna post it it's it's you can buy it online 0.95
00:30:30.480 it's quite goddamn delicious but it has to i repeat has to be frothed you have to do you have
00:30:37.080 a milk frother we've talked about this changed my life it was an early quarantine i mean it's just 0.91
00:30:40.840 can hardly live without it wait which i forget though you've talked about like i can't remember
00:30:45.540 now i know we talked about like the the sort of do you mean a little spinning thing or do you mean
00:30:51.600 like a carafe that i mean sorry i mean it's like a separate little thing you plug it in you pour
00:30:57.240 your fluid your fluids oh yeah you pour it not the little thing not the handheld whisk that you know
00:31:02.680 that little thing yeah no that doesn't i mean sure sure if you're if you're certainly doesn't
00:31:06.820 heat it certainly doesn't and heating is essential if you're on the if you're on the run i mean i've
00:31:12.200 right you know if you're on an airplane i just imagined us okay we're like we're trapped in a
00:31:18.000 car like in one of those snow storms in the woods okay like death is near okay and i pull out like
00:31:25.500 i like make i'm like whipping up with like ice cold whatever like something that's almost like
00:31:29.940 a coffee drink for us okay but with like the bear scraps we left like death is coming yeah and then
00:31:34.400 and I could just imagine me being like oh you probably don't want me to like froth it with 0.78
00:31:38.600 this stupid little thing right okay because like I know you're like above that and then I can see 0.92
00:31:44.040 you being like and this is like what I love I can see you being like oh give me the froth yeah I 0.98
00:31:49.980 would ask I would want the froth you would you would accept the like it kind of reminds me of
00:31:54.700 you even talking about having the planes blanket up to your chin like you accept the comfort of
00:31:59.720 a plane blanket like it's almost like surprising for me i accept comfort across the board i'm
00:32:05.000 always looking for it i'm always looking for it wrapped around you yeah oh you experienced you
00:32:10.460 experienced my like intense food neuroses while i was oh yeah on the plane i had to coach you i
00:32:22.180 had to tell you that there will be food on the plane i asked someone as i got on the plane
00:32:28.020 the woman you know standing there I go is there food on this plane because here's what I saw
00:32:32.960 because one time I got screwed a snack box jet blue yeah yeah yeah no I saw worse I saw all the 0.98
00:32:38.780 people waiting in line people getting on on the thing with huge bags of McDonald's like such food
00:32:44.600 stuff to the plane that I was like they know something that I don't and the last time that
00:32:47.880 happened to me bless you the last time that happened to me was when I assumed there was
00:32:52.020 gonna be food on this long ass like night flight and i was i was wrong and i got i see all the other 0.82
00:32:58.580 people eating their fucking mcdonald's and their burritos from the airport and i was like oh my 0.97
00:33:04.340 god there's nothing but pop chips oh yeah hell but so hang on anyway i got there was not hot food 0.98
00:33:11.280 it wasn't hot but it was a meal okay i was worried that the not hot what was it was going to be
00:33:17.200 it was i thought i was getting hot beef okay i thought i was getting like like a steak by the
00:33:23.420 way i'm sorry i just have to laugh we now only talk about airplanes
00:33:27.940 i know and i was really gonna try to bring it up like it's like oh a wellness fifth in a row no
00:33:34.880 it's not a wellness podcast it's not it's a it never was but it's now an airplane pot we talk
00:33:40.600 about airplanes i wonder if we get sponsored by the points guy or seat guru oh those are the ones
00:33:46.740 anyway let's pull back sponsored by an airline excited i'm sorry we're on planes um i think an
00:33:52.380 airline should take over at this point oh wow there's not some isn't there some delta executive
00:33:59.680 delta we're calling if there was an imagine if jet blue called oh wow i'm taking us out we can't do
00:34:10.600 a full more airplane segment we'll be done with airplanes by end of act two i swear
00:34:15.800 there's one thing to say can you imagine if there was a poog if there was an airplane an airline
00:34:22.260 that supported poog okay okay do they do do they not recognize what that would do
00:34:28.980 now i'm going grandiose poog air we launched an airline well i mean richard branson launched his
00:34:34.560 virgin or whatever and um and you know i don't think he was some plane man i think he was just
00:34:40.080 some ideas man i have a huge idea all right yeah every ticket costs the same okay actually
00:34:48.000 and every and every ticket and every and it's only it's first class all the way to the back
00:34:51.520 well here's i was gonna say it's a huge plane
00:34:55.380 okay wait wide body jet so it's a wide-bodied girthy jet yeah it's essentially the business
00:35:06.860 class experience maybe not a first class pod experience but it's a business class experience
00:35:10.960 throughout so tickets are it's and this is like the old world where all the tickets are
00:35:15.940 a certain price and they're endlessly interchangeable if you miss your flight or
00:35:20.160 whatever you can cancel and get on a new one interesting anywhere in the u.s okay let me
00:35:27.600 think about this coming with a price because you gotta it's gotta strike the balance
00:35:32.800 i mean i also don't think this is about cheap i don't think this is about affordability no it's
00:35:38.520 not this is a don't you think play if it was everywhere in the u.s five hundred dollars
00:35:43.160 and you got a big you got a nice and people are gonna go but i'm only flying from la to
00:35:50.060 san francisco well guess what you're still paying 500 okay because guess what when you're flying
00:35:57.140 when you're flying to london okay is also yeah exactly it's also 500 maybe for international
00:36:02.600 for international london for international i don't know for i think right now we only launch
00:36:09.080 within the u.s keep this keep this in mind a spa experience which is often priced by the minutes
00:36:14.620 they're like they're like the forest bath 90 or the forest bath 120 you know
00:36:19.180 there is a mentality if the plane experience is so positive
00:36:24.000 than even a two-hour flight i don't think it's wrong to ask for spa level pricing see i'm saying
00:36:33.840 yeah it's a luxury experience i guess well no i just think there are fewer seats there are fewer
00:36:38.120 seats and it's okay this is obviously and obviously that's what jet blue thought they
00:36:41.880 were doing i'm not i mean they did in a way the most no one they started with nothing they started
00:36:47.640 with no first class do you recall whoa began with with just more i think more more leg room
00:36:56.520 and coach than any other airline and i recognize they were forced to add mint the people wanted
00:37:01.500 to pack a little package mint is extraordinary i'm so sorry we're still talking about airplanes
00:37:05.560 we gotta get off i just want to say that i was very moved because my cousin my dear wonderful
00:37:10.240 cousin was talking about how you know her guilt about about flying and offsetting i have to find
00:37:16.560 it she was saying there's this thing where the guilt about the the weight you know the emissions
00:37:21.940 yeah yeah and all of that that there's a um this website which will you'll enter in how much you're
00:37:27.820 traveling and they'll go oh donate okay like based on all the travel you did this year donate a
00:37:33.700 hundred dollars to us and we'll distribute this towards like renewable energy sources towards my
00:37:38.160 sons we'll distribute this towards my sons at uh tufts education education yeah um
00:37:48.420 and they're like donate this and you're back to zero kind of like like you well just like a way
00:37:53.020 it's like a way to offset the no right the guilt that's interesting or just somehow which i thought
00:37:58.840 was an interesting idea okay but okay okay we're okay we're i'm cutting us off of airplane talk
00:38:03.780 no that's fine that's fine i will say look i will say so i just look at us off quick i know it will 0.74
00:38:09.740 are you ready yeah i was pretty shocked to see goddamn sunday riley soap and lotion where 0.61
00:38:16.420 you'll never believe united in the bathroom in the on-air bathroom what does that mean 0.89
00:38:27.440 and i was like daughter was like dad you need to you know like also sunday riley is something that
00:38:33.580 that's one of those brands that has hovered it's like in the air just in the atmosphere like it is
00:38:40.000 the weather like i've never purchased that item but i've seen it everywhere and by the way feel
00:38:45.360 free to send their products feel free to send their products the blue tansy marketplace their
00:38:50.000 blue tansy oil yeah no that oil that dark blue like others started doing it maybe others even
00:38:56.480 preceded them but sunday rally nailed it on that dark when people see something blue they flip the 0.75
00:39:01.740 fuck out when i when i see when they see a blue liquid that hasn't been that isn't artificial 0.69
00:39:07.140 like blue spirulina if you go into any health food you know and they go oh it's the blue drink 0.99
00:39:11.600 and by the way even i'm seduced by it gt had a blue kombucha i nearly dropped to my knees i
00:39:16.660 couldn't believe it and it was blue algae or something i love the flavor by the way
00:39:20.740 it's so intoxicating so a blue facial oil that is blue because of some unreachable product that
00:39:27.260 yeah right i mean that is so romantic that lives beneath the sea may lindstrom the blue cocoon that
00:39:34.580 oil that hard oil that's like you know melts i wonder if that's blue tansy as well probably i
00:39:39.800 even enjoy artificial i mean i mean you know i used to go through a thing i only it was sort of
00:39:44.360 a joke but i only drink blue drinks cocktails because i remember being like on the road at
00:39:50.280 this like cheeseball restaurant and i just was really comforted by these like like ridiculous 0.95
00:39:55.080 blue cocktails they had you know just like oh it's fun big stupid kind of like 0.94
00:39:59.400 i'm just checking the time okay we're doing i actually have to pee i almost never have to
00:40:05.440 pee in the middle of actually so do i this is unheard of and we're at 11 23 of act two and
00:40:10.580 considering act one went long i think like we cut this one early so that it can be added
00:40:15.420 you know what i mean to the other okay let's take a pee break all right see you shortly
00:40:25.080 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.
00:40:29.580 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.
00:40:34.780 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune.
00:40:38.800 It was hard to wrap your head around.
00:40:40.140 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.
00:40:43.760 No, I am not your guru.
00:40:47.540 And back then, I lied to my parents.
00:40:50.160 I lied to police.
00:40:51.440 I lied to everybody.
00:40:52.160 There were years, Ryder, where I could not say your name.
00:40:55.420 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,
00:40:58.080 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,
00:41:00.900 whomever I can, to try to find out what actually happened.
00:41:04.240 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods
00:41:07.160 and not the obvious boyfriend?
00:41:08.840 They have had this case for 30 years. 0.92
00:41:11.760 I'll teach you sons of a** to come around here and my wife. 0.90
00:41:14.820 Boom, boom. 0.97
00:41:16.100 This is The Red Weather.
00:41:19.140 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app,
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00:41:51.600 app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
00:41:59.320 What's going on? What's going on?
00:42:05.940 I just want to say, sorry, I was coming talking. I just want to say,
00:42:09.880 I've been revived. Thank you for your patience, Jacqueline, and sitting with me today. You know,
00:42:16.720 there were some technical difficulties that the listener never heard and I was becoming
00:42:19.960 irritable and I was hungry and um I may have even snapped at you and I also just now went
00:42:27.580 into the bathroom by the way going to my bathroom all my towels gone kind of a thrill
00:42:31.660 like the bear you know naked just the absolute naked reality of it and I love my place you
00:42:37.020 moved into it's the place you moved into wow and so and then I was looking around and I thought
00:42:41.340 yeah maybe I'm just it's kind of this is an opportunity to essentially hold every object
00:42:47.040 to my home and decide you know i i just it's time to shed and i feel motivated i feel like after poog 0.67
00:42:51.880 i'm just gonna i'm just gonna throw things the fuck away and by throw away i mean donate but 0.77
00:42:57.600 some things you know are beyond donation you know one does no one should be no absolutely and that 0.86
00:43:03.540 becomes a question of what is the way to get rid of our waste i mean you really gotta just think
00:43:10.600 back it's so crazy that there was a time when i don't know i do not know anything about this so
00:43:16.440 i really shouldn't get into it but i sometimes like imagine it being like like the 1300s and
00:43:22.800 being like oh so literally nothing was disposable nothing take a minute with that what would you
00:43:28.760 mean so like everything they got like let's say it was like okay i need to go like get some grain
00:43:34.760 from the grain man okay you would put it in a vessel the sack was there for generations oh i know 0.96
00:43:41.620 we completely wait trash we've talked about trash trash i mean it's just it is 0.96
00:43:49.380 we've accepted it and that's the problem we've accepted it as a reality when it should it should 0.90
00:43:56.320 not be a reality absolutely not and it is so overwhelming single-use plastic continues to
00:44:03.240 dominate and it's just it's the trash the trash I mean you have to I think no you don't I don't
00:44:12.400 know but I'm just thinking the empathy is there I wanted to tease it's so rude but I wanted to 0.89
00:44:17.340 tease John early because he posted something like at one point like like uh regarding plastic what
00:44:22.920 was the plan okay and it's like or something like that right it's hysterical and whatever
00:44:27.840 and I like wanted to just like be like because I'm like this sometimes like I want to be like well
00:44:32.360 life-saving medical devices yeah remember those plastic ads where it was like
00:44:38.680 like children children in hospital beds and it was like plastic and i'd be like you're damn right
00:44:43.820 yeah no no first of all you're exactly right and that is literally i think what probably turned me
00:44:51.120 like i think it's i think i'm spontaneously coming to this fresh realization it's like no i
00:44:56.160 consumed in one bite that ad 20 years ago well i mean beef is what for what's for dinner i find
00:45:05.120 moving it's it's sort of essentialist advertising i mean i've talked about this in other contexts i
00:45:10.100 feel like but like when banana republic or something is like like this is huge are you
00:45:14.440 ready like this kind of advertising they're just like the crisp white shirt oh yeah i know i know
00:45:21.220 when they just when they just name the essential thing just the platonic ideal of the thing
00:45:26.000 yes and then it's like well it's like the store that's like we sell one chair
00:45:29.700 we sell one chair because it's the best we sell one couch well i just want to say i'm glad i don't
00:45:36.540 have my new couch in here yet and then my new couch doesn't have to be witnessing me in this
00:45:40.960 moment i'm gonna post a picture of my old burrow that i left in new york because by the way burrow
00:45:45.280 reached out i mentioned their couches last week they reached out there there's some poog listeners
00:45:50.800 at borough hq which is pretty exciting what are you already worried you're going should i've gotten 0.96
00:45:57.220 a couch from tried to get a couch from borough oh fuck i made a purchase of my money i'll check out 0.69
00:46:02.380 the website but yeah because i am i am shedding and i'm now this is good the mobs are good 0.79
00:46:09.080 i installed one of my helmers from ikea and um and the other one was busted or no the other one
00:46:17.760 has some dents it had been pre-opened and an entire set of the drawer glides that are required
00:46:22.920 for it were not in it it's like it's like they gave me two left feet basically equivalent yeah 0.76
00:46:28.240 okay but with the drawer glides and it's god damn it that's it's hell that is exactly you have
00:46:33.360 exactly located it's me calling the moth person and then going oh the connection's poor then i 0.53
00:46:37.840 just never and then it's it's gone it's like the impossibility like you you go you buy it because
00:46:44.120 give you the wrong answer what do you do what do you do i mean it's the i'm like it's the chaos
00:46:49.120 no it's insurmountable you have to let go it's like it's like so it's like okay it's like it's
00:46:55.340 like do i call what am i even saying i don't want to like having to describe the helmer drawer glides
00:47:01.780 and the way that some of them have two holes and some have one and you gave me two of the two holes
00:47:06.620 throw the whole thing away see i would start crying and i would just toss the whole thing
00:47:09.860 into the street right and it's just no and that to me like like for some reason that particular
00:47:17.380 version of waste bums me out you know well yeah it's like it's like it's 98 or no it's it's it's
00:47:25.940 82 of the helmer you know it's just but i'm also just pissed this this situation cannot be we need
00:47:32.660 to get real with the situation of people unboxing things repacking them i guess that's why technology
00:47:37.980 or like a bnh has like this one's been open like yes you can get an opened box yeah for less and
00:47:43.880 they acknowledge that they don't try to pass it off like oh yeah we just put it back in i mean
00:47:47.520 are you kidding ikea a million parts and you think someone putting it back in is gonna
00:47:51.700 anyway i'm just thinking about one more thing i want to say it's really hard for me to part
00:47:58.180 with things that i got for free like john early had been gifted in some gift box like a huge um
00:48:05.560 pendleton blanket which i was like i don't like this enough to put it on my bed or a couch or
00:48:12.940 anything but to me this is a dream picnic blanket yes because it's huge and thick
00:48:18.700 i opened i had it in a drawer jacqueline and i opened the drawer and a moth was on it
00:48:24.560 so what do you want to do after we hang up maybe it's i'm gonna go grab it i know i know i'm gonna
00:48:33.540 go grab it and i'm gonna throw it over the banister on my deck and let the moths fly into
00:48:40.120 the sun i mean have you gotten any information about i mean i'm sure it's googleable but again
00:48:46.860 don't listen to the not moving who have some subtle ideas um like our subtle methods but just
00:48:53.300 like what needs to be done to linens to absolutely yeah yeah that's what i'm gonna that's what i'm
00:48:58.160 gonna go do because i of course you know it might just be hot water i know and this again
00:49:03.260 highlights why this is a gift right we have to as pima would say and how things fall apart you know
00:49:07.980 turn a sword a sword is a flower turning the sword into the flower something comes at you injures you
00:49:12.880 it's actually an opportunity right and so the sword of the moths the blood blooms out of the
00:49:20.160 wound blooms sorry you've talked about you love when blood blooms you talked about like wounds
00:49:28.220 blooming with blood i feel like you've talked about that no i feel it by that because my friend
00:49:32.120 um like well well whatever it doesn't matter my my i pulled it from my friend's writing
00:49:37.980 she does it a lot and i love it well i'm gonna bloom the moth is gonna bloom with a gift which
00:49:44.260 is that it's allowing me to not only shed things but to face my fear of information
00:49:49.860 because i live in fear of information because you know there's a thing you know who said it
00:49:56.720 a little a little information nothing there's nothing more dangerous than a little bit of
00:50:00.240 information i forgot who said that and i refused to google it but there's something that is so
00:50:06.240 deeply real for me it's like you know i just and also just my it's like i have this emotional
00:50:13.660 belief that like the moths cannot be killed by hot water and they just might fully be killed
00:50:19.160 by hot water the larva exactly and that's what we have to hold out strength for it's like it's like
00:50:24.260 when i was like not just spraying the roach spray in the crevices of my old apartment like
00:50:29.180 behind his right you were talking well that that actually was worth i actually think the 0.79
00:50:35.400 cock is better than the the poison but i was like soaking a rag and in the poison and stuffing that 0.92
00:50:40.660 behind like the wall and the crevice like it's just like another layer like i was like spraying
00:50:44.060 is not enough like it's just that belief of of of yeah of more to a point of like someone yeah
00:50:52.200 like whatever retinol up to the lash line whatever it's like is that retinol up to the lash line
00:50:56.460 what's that we talked about once on poog and then someone referenced it like on like twitter or
00:51:01.500 something but it was like don't like it was like it was like i was saying that i you know they're
00:51:06.420 like don't use it around the eyes like the delicate area and i always feel like they're
00:51:09.400 just protecting me legally right and i'm like that's where i want the anti-aging effects that's
00:51:14.120 what i want to protect from sun damage long term so i'm like the idea of just like you know more
00:51:20.640 not being better frankly tracy anderson talked about it in her post post class what chat the
00:51:25.980 other day because like some of the people in the classes they try to make modifications okay because
00:51:31.440 they think they know better oh than tracy about her method that she's developed over the course
00:51:36.140 of i mean it's her life's work and and they're like yeah i'm actually gonna add more weight so
00:51:41.720 like we're supposed to wear the three pound weights they're like i'm actually gonna do six
00:51:44.340 because i'm not feeling it and she's like good luck there's a reason i said three yeah you think
00:51:49.600 i can't lift six i just want to say that i can lift six i just want to say that i've never done
00:51:52.720 it and i'm actually going to start to be upset if we're not invited to a tracy one-on-one class
00:51:58.380 where she's bouncing with gwyneth and stuff oh i mean god look at me about to sell the i'm about
00:52:05.420 to sell the like like sell sell sell sell but like i was about to be like i mean the thing is though
00:52:10.700 like through the basic membership you actually are getting like some of the best access to
00:52:14.840 I just, I can't believe we're a Tracy Anderson airline podcast now.
00:52:21.420 I'm sorry.
00:52:22.420 I actually don't think I talk of, obviously I referenced Tracy weekly, but like, I don't
00:52:28.120 think I've done any.
00:52:28.960 No, I'm not actually upset.
00:52:30.180 I'm actually getting excited to go get that Pendleton out of there.
00:52:33.020 I'm feeling, I'm feeling like I can, I'm going to channel my, my fear right now into
00:52:37.840 shedding objects.
00:52:39.460 And I feel like I almost, I mean, I think we are kind of done here, but I'm, I'm feeling
00:52:43.220 like the the kind of excitement like i have the strength to shed yeah i am uh what what what's
00:52:51.000 what's in store for me i'm gonna work on the merch card a bit um i had bone broth i had
00:52:57.320 athletic greens and i had oh god it sounds like an ad and we are doing a formal answer
00:53:00.760 you just reminded me i had to take my arume
00:53:03.440 your aurum sorry i don't know how it's pronounced but the u definitely comes before the m
00:53:10.860 think which uh i'm intrigued by because it's some kind of probiotic supposed to be
00:53:14.540 for mental health and it's not exactly a probiotic but it's something like that
00:53:18.600 yeah yeah it definitely has a name that is in the lactobacillium variety type of a name but not that
00:53:24.440 of course um the sound the sound of you crunching on something is actually comforting no no it's
00:53:33.100 actually comforting oh well no yeah people absolutely despise the sound on on air but
00:53:38.940 crunching is cute because it's like it's almost like crunching's like below you kind of like
00:53:46.780 you're like this mind okay and for like someone to hear like the nibbling like the breakdown of
00:53:52.120 a cracker between your two teeth is like charming it's like kate is the little squirrel i love you
00:53:57.420 thank you for seeing me that way it really makes me feel loved um oh i was gonna quickly as we
00:54:02.320 leave say i'm always talking about my daughter but i had a really amazing dream the other night
00:54:07.060 where I had a baby's son and I loved the son and I truly had this feeling where I was looking at
00:54:13.060 them and I was like I came across the baby I knew it was my baby and it looked at me he looked at
00:54:18.420 me and like put his arms up like mama that kind of a thing yeah and the love that I felt for this
00:54:22.800 child it was so overwhelming and then I was holding him and I had this overwhelming desire
00:54:31.260 for another baby and it's so when you have dreams where emotions are so visceral and like fragrant
00:54:40.140 it was like i'm like this is my so of course i'm like well it's a visitation for my future child
00:54:46.200 right no that's what i was gonna say although i have i want to i want to propose one other option
00:54:51.580 and i don't want to take it only you know what your dreams mean well in theory we're everything
00:54:56.660 in our dreams right i hate that let's just take a minute with that i don't know i think it's
00:55:00.800 young really absolutely well not that it's you isn't what he said not that like every part of
00:55:06.640 your psyche it's all you our whole lives are you your life is you yourself you can't ever get out
00:55:11.600 yeah but at least in dream there is no other like in theory i mean i mean respecting other people's
00:55:16.580 discrete consciousness i think is fair am i just you i mean i mean yes in a global spiritual sense
00:55:24.360 everyone is no but i mean yes but we're talking one level down from that okay and so i think i
00:55:32.220 think like you know you're running from the witch you turn around you hug the witch the witch turns
00:55:37.640 into a flower because when you what it's like in the dream you are revealing the things you've
00:55:43.940 othered so i'm saying and then if you embrace and connect in the dream you reincorporate your psyche
00:55:49.920 so it's not split off is kind of like some of the idea but therefore what I'm seeing here for
00:55:54.900 Kate Perlant who regularly speaks of you know not wanting a son okay only only can imagine wanting
00:56:01.860 a daughter etc etc I can't help but feel and some of the changes you're going through and your
00:56:05.880 transformations and facing things you know in your home even alone okay but I feel like you facing
00:56:11.600 certain like tasks that maybe would have stretched you out in the past like I feel that you might be
00:56:18.020 meeting your baby so to speak male okay the the you can father yourself you can care for yourself
00:56:28.160 and it's developing okay it's new it's developing like it's it's young it needs to be cared for
00:56:34.380 but like and not that do you know what i'm saying for male it is interesting that it's
00:56:41.780 that it was a little boy for me so distinct yeah wow and that you care for that and you're
00:56:47.520 nurturing like this other part of yourself that that you maybe haven't claimed yet i don't know 0.99
00:56:54.200 imagine if i was a therapist and i go i don't know like that like i say some shit and they go 0.96
00:56:59.360 i don't know therapists should say i don't know well they should say it a little bit more 0.90
00:57:03.500 so what i'm paying okay thank you so much you think it's over right oh yeah it's time to go
00:57:09.180 i feel like i mean i've lost sense but i feel like we've been talking for 4 000 hours
00:57:12.660 i mean we've definitely done enough um i love you thank you my only concern is that we haven't
00:57:18.980 begged enough for anything because i gotta say what are we begging on this one like i can't
00:57:22.800 think of a single thing sunday riley could send some stuff how about this how about a natural
00:57:31.500 teeth whitener i just want to yearn that's the thing i don't even want something right now
00:57:39.180 i'm like i just want that that thrill of yearning right now i'm like i'm like that's what i'm
00:57:43.160 missing it's not about even like i mean obviously i want to send but i just like i i want to want
00:57:48.640 right now yeah actually i will say i spent i actually spent all night on the adam selman
00:57:53.920 sport oh my god adam selman dm directly with an angel i'm so excited to pick out stuff god after
00:57:59.900 last i guess what i was ranting the other day about how i've never spent money on a swimsuit 0.98
00:58:03.800 like i have like like i've never and yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna ask him for a fucking suit honey 0.95
00:58:08.740 Because have you seen the ones with the deep, and when I say deep V, I mean sub belly button. 0.98
00:58:14.780 I've seen the ones that are like the high crunch cut and like the bellies out.
00:58:18.440 They're cute.
00:58:19.180 Yeah, yeah.
00:58:19.940 Okay, I'm excited.
00:58:20.940 Yeah.
00:58:21.420 All right.
00:58:22.080 Love you.
00:58:23.240 Love you.
00:58:23.820 Talk to you soon. 0.90
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