Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - Poogiversary!

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00:01:34.840 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:01:36.280 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:01:37.380 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

00:01:42.080 Two untamable intellects.

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00:01:49.220 Today's topic, loosely speaking.

00:01:51.160 Apple Maps.

00:01:52.600 Poor sign.

00:01:53.220 One Year Anniversary

00:01:55.120 Wait is that

00:02:02.600 What song is that

00:02:03.660 That's like graduation music

00:02:05.340 Wait let me hear it again

00:02:07.480 Pachelbel's Canon

00:02:08.900 I think I'm combining things

00:02:15.080 Yeah

00:02:15.640 I don't know

00:02:18.320 Okay

00:02:19.860 So

00:02:21.420 a couple things when do we start are we in oh we're in oh we're in i was just reminded

00:02:27.660 because you were singing my friend my dear friend growing up

00:02:30.540 my dear friend growing up okay if i was being abnormally quiet if you can imagine

00:02:37.300 um and she she wanted me to like come out of my interior and start talking with her

00:02:42.840 yeah she would start to sing because i would immediately interrupt with conversation 0.87

00:02:47.280 like because i clearly was like that's devastating not wanting to like just she has a beautiful voice

00:02:53.520 in fact that's what made it even worse people and their beautiful voices god i know i don't know

00:02:59.460 pain oh sorry i'm just having a little cheek muscle pain probably from overworking them

00:03:03.660 through exercise i have to yeah all i'm gonna say is this yeah google maps wasn't working

00:03:11.240 i was lost in los angeles in like an uber no in my own car okay wait hang on hang on i didn't

00:03:19.480 know you could drive oh wow i've driven all over this country wait 16 no this makes sense that you

00:03:27.400 can drive why did i think though that you couldn't drive i have a dear friend oh i know why i know why

00:03:35.260 i know why because i didn't have a car for the first like year that i was technically living

00:03:39.920 here i thought maybe you're one of those new yorkers who can drive right now suburb baby all

00:03:44.900 we care about is getting our license oh my god yeah it's driving i'm getting lost i'm almost

00:03:51.440 on a highway by accident it's pure nightmare google maps is failing me and so i reach out to

00:03:58.260 siri okay i go hey siri scream take me um to stories bookstore okay and you know that place

00:04:09.540 right anyway of course it doesn't matter all right and i realize i realize what this means

00:04:14.920 and i know what it means is that it's going to be using apple maps now apple maps i deleted off my

00:04:19.580 phone years ago yeah notoriously uh apple's biggest failure okay they make jokes about it

00:04:25.840 on silicon valley really right and they just redirect you to a new balance store always i

00:04:32.160 I feel like Apple Maps is like, that's my favorite, that's my favorite kind of laugh.

00:04:39.440 That's like one of my, a raspberry, a raspberry, a blooming raspberry.

00:04:45.600 Because, because, because I don't enjoy making sounds like that, technically speaking, but

00:04:51.940 it happens because otherwise I will cackle.

00:04:54.680 It's so cute.

00:04:55.420 I love your cackle.

00:04:56.680 I love your scream.

00:04:58.160 I really miss you. 0.98

00:04:59.600 This sucks.

00:05:00.240 I love you. 0.89

00:05:00.840 wait i promise i'll wrap this up the point is okay apple maps i'm whining because i miss you

00:05:06.780 keep going all right apple maps got me to where i needed to go but not only that i mean i'm almost

00:05:14.340 crying again a little bit i can feel it like like in my nose and eyes like after doubting

00:05:19.720 apple maps for so many years they got you there she was better she was better okay really she was

00:05:26.300 better than google she was like no she was like a person she was like this she was like she was

00:05:29.700 like she was like see that next stoplight yeah you're not gonna uh turn it that one you're gonna

00:05:34.280 turn it the next one i mean it wasn't that conversation but it almost was it almost was

00:05:38.980 it was closer to that than google maps 1000 feet which of course what is that oh don't talk to me 0.60

00:05:46.000 at that did i am i am am i an engineer i don't know what a thousand feet is you freak

00:05:52.480 well i guess some people actually are able to well what is a a sometimes i go the one i'm trying

00:06:01.200 the only one i'm like 100 yards football field all i know is three feet is a yard that one's

00:06:05.940 stuck yeah yard helps a little bit we're never measuring in yards um right you just have to go

00:06:11.460 with the three feet wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute wait what three feet i'm actually

00:06:16.720 yeah 36 inches here go so i'm less than two yards tall wait a second a yard is three feet that's

00:06:24.260 shocking so imagine holding a yardstick like a cane like like a top hat and cane like right next

00:06:29.540 to you you're gonna dance okay hold it right next to you can sort of feel it probably hitting

00:06:33.360 somewhere below the hip yeah add another one that's flying up the torso the neck and the head

00:06:39.100 wow wow but you feel bigger i'm happy the apple maps got you there there's nothing like being lost

00:06:45.640 screaming the siri like i've degraded siri which we all do and she she responds right and she goes 0.79

00:06:54.260 please don't talk to me that way she doesn't say that but she'll be like i'm sorry you feel that 0.96

00:06:58.840 way oh yeah maybe she maybe maybe i'm hallucinating no no no she says but she's been programmed for

00:07:05.000 abuse they knew we would abuse her and so they responded appropriately chris has an irishman

00:07:11.660 oh yeah you can like change the that sounds kind of charming i there's a lot i feel like to talk

00:07:17.700 about but also i almost want to just fly out of the gate and say i just had an acai bowl

00:07:22.400 i was whoa which i was craving i don't really 2000 i don't really do those i don't really do

00:07:28.720 the acai bowls yeah 2000 yeah something i feel like came online then there's of course nothing

00:07:35.200 really here to report except for the fact that the acai artist is really taking her time and

00:07:41.600 i think she was new on the force and oh no it was it was like really heavy when they gave it to me

00:07:48.020 i was like oh this is a lot of food i downed it instantly and then immediately felt energy

00:07:52.760 those moments when food gives you energy and you feel it is shocking shocking so it's like the

00:07:58.880 fruit you know there were blue there were there were bananas on top there were strawberries on

00:08:03.200 top i hadn't had fresh fruit in a few days it just really went in yeah must have been the fructose

00:08:08.500 rush i really went in and then i have something to say about you know we haven't really talked

00:08:12.160 about on this show is hangovers my god well we did two weeks ago i'm not saying we haven't really

00:08:17.160 no but remember the whole thing you were like fresh as a daisy and then you're like oh wait i

00:08:21.100 am hungover oh i'm not saying but i want to get into it of course hungover no topic is fun night

00:08:27.200 i had a fun night the other exactly no topic is covered i had a fun night the other night and i

00:08:32.480 was like i i didn't drink a lot at all like you know i had maybe i mean four drinks over the

00:08:39.740 course of six hours you know so i didn't feel drunk but it was just the right amount where

00:08:46.720 something happened where and this is the worst this is the thing about drinking where it's poison

00:08:50.980 is that it wakes you up in the middle like i couldn't sleep i woke up at six i went to bed

00:08:54.560 at like 2 30 and then i woke up at 6 a.m which is grades the sleep quality do grades the sleep

00:08:59.500 quality i woke up you know spiraling about things i had said um texting people did i seem belligerent

00:09:05.420 everyone's like you seem completely normal i'm constantly my fear of appearing drunk is so

00:09:10.840 profound that i will are you kidding me my my neurologist is calling me right now can i take

00:09:15.580 it on air please hello kate hi hi thanks so much yeah you're welcome i still don't have an answer

00:09:25.620 for you but when did you inject the amovig i injected it okay i can tell you exactly give

00:09:32.080 me one second i want to say it was three days but i can tell you that the migraine shot she takes

00:09:37.780 oh excuse me oh it was exactly a week ago it was the 10th

00:09:42.960 i'm in her earphones so i don't think they can hear me thank you so much you're welcome okay bye

00:09:49.080 okay there's a little drama here for for everyone at home as you know the amovig

00:09:54.080 migraine injection has completely changed my life i've been doing it monthly for a year now

00:09:58.520 it's taken i could have like i could get two migraines a week three three migraines a week

00:10:03.220 now i get max to a month and they're not even that severe i mean it's truly completely changed

00:10:07.820 my life anyway you have to give yourself a shot in the leg once a month i'll also add i've had

00:10:11.900 no side effects i repeat no side effects okay the other night i was distracted i went and it's a

00:10:18.340 little nerve-wracking it's like an epi pen you know makes me a little scared and i often will

00:10:22.280 even like to be on the phone with a loved one while I do it to kind of feel that there's a

00:10:25.820 well the audience helped you remember the first time yes yes did on video and then helped you

00:10:30.260 really helped and so I was distracted and I wasn't thinking and I pulled out the needle too soon I

00:10:37.720 pulled it up too soon and some of the medication went spewing violently and I was it was alarming

00:10:42.420 too because I saw the needle the needle that normally is embedded in my thigh muscle was

00:10:45.720 suddenly visible squirting the medicine and realizing like oh my god that squirts itself

00:10:50.740 inside my body i mean it was pretty wild or how long is the needle so normally epi pen style is

00:10:55.840 it like you know you you you push it in and when you pull it out the needle disappears inside you

00:11:00.660 don't ever see it yeah so it looks exactly so it's just like something you put you hit a button

00:11:04.920 at the top you press it it injects and i would say here we go seconds i mean measurements oh i

00:11:13.180 don't know quarter of an inch no maybe an inch or not even an inch not even an inch but i was 0.97

00:11:18.200 immediately overwhelmed i was like fuck because this means that a lot of the medicine didn't get 0.99

00:11:23.160 in my goddamn leg and what do i do because it's not like no medicine got in so i'm asking my 0.98

00:11:28.220 neurologist um i'm happy to recommend dr wu i mean there's no issue here so i'm talking to them 0.99

00:11:34.800 because i was like am i gonna have to wait another 30 days to inject or is he gonna go you know what

00:11:38.520 in two weeks you know let's give you another injection or you know it's a small dose anyway

00:11:42.880 and actually you could pop the shot in a full shot in right now or something right right and i'm just

00:11:46.380 worried because i have shows coming up for the first time in 4 000 years and the migraines could

00:11:50.760 really derail my my show experience not to mention just the joy of my life okay what were we talking

00:11:56.220 about before that could never tell you oh um well hangovers and i realized that for my mental health

00:12:05.320 i should stay out all night like one night a week maybe that's i'm sorry a month a month but even

00:12:10.080 that's maybe every six weeks i should i think every six weeks i need to come home at like 4 a.m

00:12:15.800 i mean sure sure i just um yeah i mean i i mean you know you even maybe yeah i would say once a

00:12:24.420 month but realistically some of us have to maintain strict sleep schedules or our mood disorders

00:12:29.640 i mean you know you know also you could do a 4 a.m or oh well particularly because i'm up till

00:12:37.300 three most nights watching television i can't believe that but you're texting me gm you've

00:12:43.340 been texting me gm your gms have gone early yeah uh let's see why is that well i was on the east

00:12:50.860 coast a little bit and but yeah i mean i guess i'm not maybe i'm not sleeping as much as i

00:12:55.860 i feel like i'm good getting to bed a little earlier because i take the thc gummies like i

00:13:02.080 would say that thc to make it more medical um the thc gummies early so they have time to kick in and

00:13:09.640 help my legs my restless legs and um wait there's something i want to note here how's your restless

00:13:15.280 leg machine fantastic the cheap vitalizer so i've been laying down so i often forget to take

00:13:22.520 um the gummies early enough and so i'm there and i'm getting tired and then they start to

00:13:28.780 they start to go and i just got in the floor i throw my legs in there i'm watching 9-1-1 as you

00:13:34.740 know that show and um i just can't stop peter krause i just nate lives and uh nate lives

00:13:42.200 unbelievable and i mean when i struggle i did fall asleep while my legs were going

00:13:46.720 can you imagine the sight of that i mean people sleep through dare i say turbulence

00:13:54.400 okay oh i know i was about to go i slept through the 92 earthquake where do you stand we have to

00:14:00.720 go to break oh yeah i forgot about that let's throw it a break and then when we come back

00:14:04.620 i know we say and i like what you just said no topic is covered yeah i think i have a topic

00:14:09.420 we've never talked about how exciting okay here we go this is writer strong and i have a new

00:14:16.060 podcast called the red weather it was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea

00:14:22.860 in 1995 my neighbor and a trainer disappeared from a commune it was hard to wrap your head

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00:14:37.620 to my parents i lied to police i lied to everybody there were years right where i could not say your

00:14:43.600 name i've decided to go back to my hometown in northern california interview my friends family

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00:14:53.500 bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend they have

00:14:57.760 I've had this case for 30 years. 1.00

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00:15:49.160 Okay, and we're back.

00:15:50.500 And it's time for a topic we've never covered.

00:15:52.420 Okay, a huge buildup.

00:15:54.240 where what's your relationship to leftovers oh hell yeah all right let's get into it

00:16:01.220 though i have so much to say i'm so excited all right i thought this might

00:16:04.520 turn you on it did it did i get activated i get activated talking about food particularly

00:16:11.980 restaurant food so big part of my life is this kind of lie in which you know it's oh take it

00:16:19.700 home and then and then it'll be great tomorrow okay yeah yeah or sometimes i'll even throw out

00:16:24.840 the word midnight snack and often i eat it almost within a half hour of getting home yeah yeah okay

00:16:33.200 because now i get to enjoy food privately that's the way to do it it's because that's the crisis

00:16:38.220 of a restaurant you have two hours right right for the table actually sometimes i think people

00:16:43.640 are stressed out dining with me because i really respect the two-hour limit exactly exactly and so

00:16:47.860 and i'll say like i'll talk to the i'll say to the restaurant like do you need this table right

00:16:55.580 now like do you know what i mean because sometimes you look around you go it's empty or like maybe

00:17:00.000 it scoots behind the host stand she just scoots on over yeah yeah hate all table 14 what do you

00:17:07.120 think be honest no but i'll ask because sometimes they go it's totally fine have it and sometimes

00:17:12.340 they go yeah we actually do have someone coming in and it's like just ask okay anyway but i

00:17:17.380 that's i think a really brilliant approach to leftovers because the tragedy of the restaurant

00:17:23.000 is that you have the table for two hours so at a if you were in your home the food could sit there

00:17:27.020 on the table 40 minutes could pass you're having a cocktail and then you return right so it actually

00:17:32.500 makes sense that you're eating it upon return to your home and that gives me the the double pleasure

00:17:38.100 the pleasure of eating in a restaurant and then also the the i mean it's like that marion woodman 0.91

00:17:43.480 thing that the idea of uh i guess she was talking about the female psychology but like all food is

00:17:48.600 stolen so like so like it gives me it it satisfies that part of me that wants to like like to eat and

00:17:55.500 like to hide while eating like yeah furtively like like sneaking something into my mouth while i'm

00:18:00.020 like tucked behind a tree you know what i mean i'm just thinking about like you right i know you

00:18:05.720 don't want to know i know you don't want to talk to you about your eroticism on air because your

00:18:09.420 parents listen but i mean you can ask but we'll probably cut it i'm a prude i know but i mean i

00:18:18.340 mean because that's what i'm just like certain ways because is this real you know this like

00:18:21.500 there's this image right okay there's this image about someone i don't consider you prude at all

00:18:26.260 there's this image we all have seen right of the blindfolded person being fed a strawberry by their

00:18:31.180 lover right oh which has never like gone through like i've never touched out like that's never

00:18:36.840 well i remember at like 12 me and my friend used to joke about like like like there were all these

00:18:43.160 like in movies people like covering each other with whipped cream and we were always like because

00:18:47.340 we prefer savory we were like let it be guacamole let it be guacamole now that's so funny oh my god

00:18:54.560 and i think it's variety blues the girl forgot what her name is like hot blonde she's covered

00:18:59.540 in she has like a whipped cream bikini on yes wait varsity blues is that what you mean that

00:19:04.180 used to make me wild yeah you loved it i loved it i thought it was yeah oh my god so funny used 0.86

00:19:11.080 to get me there and then um and then i believe it's paul walker fucks her up against the washing

00:19:16.100 machine so even the the ease of which you just said the f word okay yeah like it wouldn't fly

00:19:23.860 out of my mouth even that that easily it's like except for i guess i have family members who

00:19:27.920 listen but i guess it's different because your father who i love um listens and if my father 0.99

00:19:35.900 listens to poo weekly that would alter my ability to maybe let the word fuck fly out of my mouth 0.97

00:19:42.900 with such ease right right right no i mean maybe i don't know i understand no it's not yeah and i 0.98

00:19:48.860 don't even know if it's just that because you know i can be sort of i i'm i'm not even saying 0.76

00:19:52.560 it's just on the air you're peddling a show all over town about blowjobs meanwhile i'm shocked

00:19:57.780 when anyone like tries to talk to me about anything relatedly after the show i'm like 0.99

00:20:01.720 i'm like excuse me oh i mean they're trying to be like i love when i mean i suck yeah just yeah

00:20:06.920 that's just i'm just like i don't know it well even like even at the show like that's not you

00:20:13.160 know what the show is yeah and it's it's um like someone's like i feel like there are these touches

00:20:20.020 we don't want to talk about like reviews of my show or something but i'm so sorry i can barely

00:20:24.420 take off my jacket um really from what god did you exercise truly dancing on my friend's pole

00:20:33.760 oh pole dancing for it was so fun yeah and it was an image and it was so it's kind of a cheating

00:20:41.640 thing because the pole itself spins so it allows an amateur like myself to oh my god i saw you

00:20:47.420 spin right you can jump up on it yeah like you saw me have a little sim i really it was such a

00:20:53.880 thrill and i got so dizzy oh wow i've been dehydrated i'm not hydrating i'm not hydrating

00:21:01.700 trying to think if i've had any water today only the water that was in my athletic greens there

00:21:06.580 we go again oh there it is and and not only did we do a formal ad right but we continue to talk

00:21:11.360 about it which makes me feel that we should be at least on a year's worth i completely agree

00:21:17.440 because i'm almost out i'm a paid subscriber i'm a paid subscriber right and i'm almost out of the

00:21:22.300 free i delayed mine um so that i could use my free stock but put it on pause um i was gonna 0.97

00:21:30.460 say factor will notice my my i mean i order full meals from factor all week long that fuck is factor 0.83

00:21:38.760 factor 75 it would be too local to plasticine for you uh i don't know but but it's it's these 0.94

00:21:46.720 meals that arrive in little plastic stouffer's-esque things like it's very whatever but

00:21:51.000 they are they are a chef created never frozen they arrive refrigerated and you refrigerate

00:21:56.900 them and you eat them within a week and you know you just pop it in the microwave for three minutes

00:22:01.080 and i mean they have a they have this um uh mushroom burger with this like mushroom sauce

00:22:09.000 that is just and are you eating that with like keto bread or something i didn't mean to degrade

00:22:15.680 you the way i said that no i actually just knife and fork that one it lays the top like like mashed

00:22:22.140 you know cauliflower kind of thing i'm not offended by the the burger alone but that's

00:22:27.260 Cause that would be, that one specifically came down. Oh God. Um, wait,

00:22:32.020 I want to just completely right.

00:22:35.640 Make a left turn here and say that please,

00:22:38.700 my skin has been kind of good the last few days after I was experiencing some

00:22:43.460 breakouts and, and I think that the reason why is I've been wearing no makeup.

00:22:49.160 I repeat no makeup. Yeah. And so, and I wear again daily.

00:22:53.780 I'm not wearing foundation daily, but I do do like tinted sunscreen.

00:22:57.260 stuff with pigment there it is right i mean i almost never wear makeup and look at your 0.93

00:23:04.740 goddamn complexion i mean i i think it's an illusion that that i don't like i don't know 0.95

00:23:11.900 why you think my skin is better than your maybe not better but but i feel like that you have this 0.97

00:23:17.080 idea of me having this great skin and i'm like i got rosacea on the cheeks whatever like like

00:23:21.520 we've pushed this this dynamic like we've pushed this narrative of me having this great skin and

00:23:25.580 then frankly people at novek's famous famous merch stand are like we wanted to see your skin and i'm

00:23:30.020 like oh no oh my god that's scary i actually had that the other day i was like oh are people gonna

00:23:35.240 see me and be like there's a yeah i was imagining somebody who like who listens to poo with their

00:23:40.560 friend going like oh she has a beauty and wellness podcast and the person goes her oh my god can you

00:23:46.960 imagine well i mean just because you have an like you can be the most knowledgeable person on

00:23:53.780 something without you know putting it into practice i mean i've always felt that way about

00:23:57.740 fashion i have a perfect eye for fashion doesn't mean i'm always implementing it yeah yeah i got

00:24:03.020 it you know what i mean you know you know it's a fun thing eucalyptus in the home

00:24:07.200 wow eucalyptus branches wait i can't picture what you can also poach them off trees

00:24:12.960 but they're it's a great here's a little hack for that for the hags at home

00:24:16.780 you get some eucalyptus and it looks gorgeous you can either rip it off a live branch oh i know

00:24:22.220 or eucalyptus and it just stays forever you in water i want to say it lasts two weeks try

00:24:27.200 try having flowers last two weeks in your home yeah good luck and then when they dry out they

00:24:31.040 just sit there in the vase and they still look great yeah some people will do i feel like the

00:24:35.060 eucalyptus like purposely dry right yeah like i feel like michael sells fake dry eucalyptus yeah

00:24:41.040 you can do a dry eucalyptus for sure but then also i've always wanted to talk about you know

00:24:45.860 the rituals of a woman i admire i always wanted to be the kind of woman who would get fresh

00:24:50.280 eucalyptus hang it tie it to my shower head upside down in the shower have a eucalyptus 0.94

00:24:55.240 natural steam shower can you fucking imagine wow i mean yeah that's one of those things that just 0.91

00:25:01.760 god um you know how quickly would it become like you just seem i could see myself you know three 0.97

00:25:08.540 months later ripping it down you know like well no but it's only there i mean i think you only

00:25:13.620 have it there for yeah but here's what remains whatever whatever i chose to hang it on would

00:25:19.720 just remain maybe i don't know the more holes in the walls listen i just want to say because it's

00:25:25.780 kind of it's really been on a big part of the podcast lately and i've really loved all the

00:25:30.880 listeners reactions i don't want to count i don't want to get too excited here but i think the moths

00:25:35.700 are gone now you because the rug is gone because the rug is gone i went as everyone knows i'm

00:25:45.960 really afraid of my laundry my dungeness laundry and i went down there and did it you'll love to

00:25:51.680 hear this were you comfortable by my words i was sailing high off the high of facing your fear

00:25:58.360 yes yes like that suddenly i was like and i even i did this i left the basement

00:26:05.700 and i truly went bye guys to all the bugs ew i'm proud and impressed first of all my immediate

00:26:14.460 in the initial assumption ghosts oh no don't don't what i know because i'm afraid of them but

00:26:21.360 the bugs are all i can i can't do layers of fear with that right that's an interesting thing

00:26:26.280 actually would you rather have um insects or spirits malevolent i'd rather have malevolent

00:26:33.800 in both cases okay let me think wait malevolent in both cases well that's what i went for 0.98

00:26:39.600 malevolent i would rather have an evil bug than an evil spirit any day any goddamn day well i mean 0.90

00:26:47.660 technically you know it's interesting though because like a sane person if spirits were 0.97

00:26:53.980 absolutely everyone knew they were real okay okay technically you know it'd be wiser to choose

00:27:01.360 the bugs right physical is the manifestation yeah clearly physical is clearly easy easier

00:27:09.100 managed and yet I have this confidence that I could handle the evil spirit you do have that

00:27:17.780 confidence yeah where which you know I went into a vocal tone that I don't like you know I believe

00:27:26.440 if I could manage the evil spirit okay I didn't like that tone but anyway like and I'm that like

00:27:35.360 I really do not like infestations of bugs right so I'm like bring them in like the spirit I will

00:27:42.240 call yeah I'm like I will come like I'm like bugger spirits sound off yeah well I remember

00:27:49.040 you know in my various sort of success literature slash you know productivity reading I remember

00:27:55.560 doing this thing where it was like i am gonna do only and all of the things that i don't want to do

00:28:01.220 that's like duh but but almost making this sort of game out of it and being like

00:28:07.380 like what if you just decide like for an hour you're just gonna do all the things now now

00:28:13.020 not like go face random fears i actually mean more like like a superville like for me it's

00:28:20.200 my therapy super bill yes hell which which help me all it involves is you calling no it's more

00:28:28.880 than that wait what do you mean providing your credit card info or your bank info no it's about

00:28:35.360 like oh god submitting to insurance yeah and the forms well well you know it's you know i don't

00:28:42.040 know how anyone does anything in this country does anything i know insurance is literal hell

00:28:48.660 every year the prior authorization by the way they have little pill bottles hanging as a christmas

00:28:56.300 christmas decor in um cvs that's cute and i don't mind it i don't mind that's fun i don't love the

00:29:03.000 when the bagel places hang the bagels and it's just like a stale bagel that someone could have

00:29:07.520 yeah that's not as fun not as the pill bottles is fun and i feel like that's a rogue pharmacist

00:29:12.060 like i don't think that's coming down from corporate no way yeah there's no way it's

00:29:15.580 coming down that's some goofy pharmacist did you ever go to target's pharmacy back when they had

00:29:21.320 the like new york design schools bottles oh my god well i told you about the time i went to the

00:29:28.800 pharmacy and the the pharmacist waiting for my meds and in pretty bad shape and the pharmacy

00:29:33.120 yelling um i'm gonna freaking kill myself and you've told that i'm just yelling at

00:29:38.000 i'm gonna freaking kill myself okay and 10 people in line that is so great but like i'm similarly 0.90

00:29:48.320 and under the fluorescent light like to pick up um well you know what i was thinking about the

00:29:52.420 other day if even a single pharmacy okay friday cvs one of the big boys if they did nothing other

00:29:58.560 than the following swapped out their lighting for warm warm not hellish fluorescent overhead

00:30:06.500 lighting they'd take all the business they'd get it all you are completely right that's all

00:30:12.940 one choice that's all it takes that's all it takes is just a you're completely correct

00:30:18.900 you're completely right it's all they would have to do people underestimate the power of lighting

00:30:23.440 it is it is everything and I've actually had I've had to really sometimes rethink relationships

00:30:30.380 based on people's insensitivity to lighting sorry no is it like is it like you mean someone who just

00:30:40.900 like flips on a switch and it's hell yeah a little bit like you how can you or just like

00:30:45.780 even like someone who I care about just like being like but this lighting is so harsh like

00:30:51.720 i can't connect with you here i can't be with you in this environment when i feel

00:30:57.020 the halogen sizzling the top layer of my of my dermis sometimes halogen actually isn't the most

00:31:05.220 offensive i mean the flickering you know fluorescent whatever whatever that i guess

00:31:10.180 that's what i'm stuff is is pure hell the led can be okay the light bulbs that last forever i just

00:31:16.320 and i know it's and i of course haven't brought myself to do the research to really understand

00:31:21.360 the like the the ones that are more that conserve energy but i'm like

00:31:25.960 you know what i'm tired of what the led company's promising warm light oh absolutely and in fact

00:31:34.160 it's just yellow it's blue yeah oh no i wish it were yellow i'd take yellow i mean as you know

00:31:38.940 last year at christmas time and we're getting into that time again i painted all my led lights

00:31:42.880 with warm tones jacklyn it's begun again jacklyn i'm pretty sure today is the literal oh my god

00:31:50.640 today what oh my god this is huge the anniversary it's one year of poog today it is you even leave

00:31:56.700 with that i just posted that it's in my it's in it's and then it was it was um it was it was

00:32:01.800 later confirmed it's today i have it in my calendar right here one year baby one year

00:32:07.020 wow wow poog is huge poog's huge it's funny the way because i go one year

00:32:13.680 it's essentially meaningless right yeah and i mean i mean that in a good way actually no

00:32:20.360 no totally but i just mean well because here's where i immediately went dinner i said you and

00:32:25.420 i have to do a special dinner with each other promise yes yes because it was around yes yes

00:32:31.980 yes um isn't that crazy though one year today no what does that mean what is a year what is a year

00:32:38.460 right that's when it dropped because we spent thanksgiving together last year and that feels

00:32:42.900 like that was okay i'm not about to from 15 feet away people deserve the people deserve more than

00:32:47.820 i was about to do it it feels like a year it feels longer you know it's like shorter i mean

00:32:53.700 describing the passage of time and duration and how it feels in the body is not and i don't fault

00:32:59.900 myself or anyone else for ever going to that to talk to discuss because it is the phenomenon of

00:33:04.160 time it makes absolutely no sense absolutely right arguably it's the most interesting thing

00:33:08.480 discusses that it's always hit with that same cliche and sometimes it does like overwhelm the

00:33:12.720 census and you're like that was a year ago but but but unfortunately it cannot be discussed

00:33:17.800 because there's nothing there so funny i mean i guess it's sort of a something you dig at right

00:33:25.480 and if someone manages to say something about the passage of time that actually hits hey well then

00:33:33.740 they've done they've done quite a trick but for but that's one of those topics which we must

00:33:37.760 privately dig around okay i need to turn on the light and i need to close my blinds because as

00:33:42.220 i turned my light on too i love that this is the thought of somebody walking by and seeing me in

00:33:46.760 here with my recording equipment just like you've expressed that before i know you have this

00:33:50.380 humiliation about about being a audio and i mean i get it i know sort of oh look at her look at her

00:33:59.260 what empire does she think she's starting the home studio she's gone there she goes flitting past

00:34:10.460 the frame look at that so much better and i and you might have noticed i turned on a um 0.77

00:34:20.760 someone hugged me at the at novak search then and and then said a poog hag said um i wanted to know

00:34:28.420 what you smelled like or something whoa i was wondering what you'd smell i did it i read it 0.96

00:34:33.300 wrong i did the wrong read it was like it was like i was wondering what you smell like and i was like

00:34:38.140 oh god probably horrible like i just came off stage in my like flop sweat literally like which

00:34:43.600 does have a different smell the stress sweat stage performance yeah and um

00:34:51.260 i don't know it's kind of horrifying yeah that's scary

00:34:55.400 like because if someone says to you god you smell good

00:35:00.040 but just i wondered what you smelled like that's scary

00:35:04.800 well also because like you know of course this isn't true but you experience your own

00:35:11.520 non-scent like like you can't smell yourself without perfume without whatever you assume

00:35:17.780 you're like you're accustomed so you assume your scent is neutral and nothing oh god it really is

00:35:24.540 true about i know i know i'm smelling my arm too going like are you like sense sense and attraction

00:35:32.760 Another topic that's too boring

00:35:36.380 We all get it

00:35:37.800 What's the most boring topic?

00:35:41.220 I love that

00:35:41.720 What is the most boring topic?

00:35:43.340 I think we have to go to break

00:35:44.300 What's hell?

00:35:44.420 What's pure hell?

00:35:45.100 We have to go to break and we'll come back

00:35:46.400 Really?

00:35:47.980 Right?

00:35:48.660 I could be wrong

00:35:49.300 Yeah

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00:37:27.700 Okay, I like this.

00:37:29.900 what are the most boring topics i would say what i just said obviously of describing how

00:37:34.660 time passes and how that feels i do think it's slightly compelling when people point out like

00:37:41.180 like i like there are a couple time related like meme type things you know when like they hit you

00:37:46.820 and you're like damn i know genius genius at work eradicated the need for contemporary art

00:37:51.740 oh wow i of course as usual mean half of what i say yeah um but keep going 0.96

00:37:59.400 um i already forgot oh wait i never finished about the the kind of doing the things doing

00:38:08.740 all the things at once that you don't want to do you gain momentum oh oh and you get addicted to

00:38:15.840 it because you do one you feel good i did two loads of laundry in the horrifying basement i 0.82

00:38:20.040 went let's fucking go oh my god my neurologist okay let's do it again hello okay hi hi okay 0.93

00:38:29.380 I've got an answer. 0.98

00:38:30.280 He wants you to redo injection again.

00:38:33.280 And he said if you are able to,

00:38:36.340 you can come and pick up a sample box here in the office.

00:38:39.040 Oh, great.

00:38:39.820 Thank you so much.

00:38:41.820 You're welcome.

00:38:43.040 Okay, great.

00:38:43.720 I really appreciate you looking into that.

00:38:46.020 Okay, thanks so much.

00:38:47.520 You're welcome.

00:38:48.060 Bye.

00:38:48.300 All right.

00:38:48.940 Bye. 1.00

00:38:50.100 Fuck. 1.00

00:38:51.720 You're annoyed that you have to go pick something up? 1.00

00:38:53.200 Well, no, here's what...

00:38:53.880 No, yeah, but here...

00:38:54.840 Oh, because you're going out of town.

00:38:56.100 Well, I get on a plane tomorrow morning.

00:38:56.940 Here's what I could do.

00:38:57.500 And then mail it. 0.96

00:38:57.780 it trouble my dear mother who lives with a five minute drive from the neurologist I could I could

00:39:04.880 beg her to pick it up and then do a courier service over it to me I love how you say big

00:39:09.900 big like bagel almost I love it it's so specific what do you think is that too much

00:39:15.720 I don't I don't know I don't know your mother's relationship to Aaron's in that way

00:39:20.820 um but i i don't think it's a terrible idea my mother recently shipped something to me

00:39:28.980 and i feel like my dad wrapped it in seven layers the shop can be shipped yeah the shot can't be

00:39:35.380 shipped no it's like two it's refrigerated and i would need to so you leave tomorrow for how long

00:39:41.760 would this be fun if what should i call her on air who my mom to ask about the errand yeah sure

00:39:49.020 it can all be cut if you don't get no absolutely

00:39:52.380 mommy mommy mommy yes well what are you doing what are you doing right now

00:40:02.220 well i'm sort of in the middle of some phone calls and emails and stuff like that but why

00:40:06.500 no no because i my my amovig migraine shot yes i am i botched it the other day i made the mistake

00:40:14.720 of pulling it out too soon and a lot of the medicine went spraying everywhere and it was

00:40:18.420 horrible and so no no but it's okay but what's what's what's terrible is that you know I'm

00:40:24.760 worried now that I'm gonna have migraines like I know well here's I'm sorry I'm laughing I talked

00:40:35.300 to Dr. Wu and he said I could go and pick up the shot because you know I can't they can't do it

00:40:40.900 through the pharmacy because I just got it that I could that I could pick up the shot but as you

00:40:45.960 know i'm leaving tomorrow morning and i'm not sure what to do um get to the ask and i could

00:40:51.880 go pick up the shot at his office she waited for her offer well i just talked to them and they said

00:40:56.320 that i think they're they're still open because oh wait let me look because i was thinking like

00:41:01.380 oh dear lord what if you picked it up and then just did a courier over 0.95

00:41:05.100 they're open now i have a 9 a.m flight you could go kate no i can't i know i'm stupid 0.94

00:41:15.420 here's what it is you I just realized I went I went my whole life without this migraine shot

00:41:27.340 I'm just gonna go another five days without it I'll be fine you probably will be I have plenty

00:41:32.540 of medication with me in case I get one okay but then you will need it when you get back yeah yeah

00:41:39.940 but I can handle it when I get back.

00:41:41.360 My mother has never once called me baby.

00:41:44.180 Well,

00:41:44.680 I mean,

00:41:45.120 you know,

00:41:45.640 I would do it,

00:41:46.380 but you know,

00:41:47.080 no,

00:41:47.260 no,

00:41:47.340 it's totally fine.

00:41:48.240 I just need to talk it out.

00:41:49.680 Okay.

00:41:50.260 Thank you for offering.

00:41:51.160 I love you.

00:41:51.540 I'll call you later.

00:41:54.000 Can you believe that one?

00:41:56.260 Just the sympathy.

00:41:57.760 I feel like,

00:41:58.520 I feel like,

00:41:59.260 Oh,

00:41:59.520 the ultimate comfort.

00:42:00.480 I feel like you would have really noticed like,

00:42:02.700 like when I said,

00:42:03.540 like she went,

00:42:04.300 Oh no. 0.96

00:42:05.600 Like,

00:42:05.740 did you feel that the mirroring?

00:42:07.600 Totally.

00:42:07.800 It's completely real.

00:42:08.640 I mean,

00:42:08.920 it's just,

00:42:09.440 and she mirrors ahead of time for you so i was i was like couldn't help but piping going get to 0.69

00:42:14.320 the ass kate don't let her suggest it like don't like manipulate her into suggesting it you know 0.60

00:42:19.380 i don't mean i don't mean it purposely i just mean i don't mean it certainly not purposely but it's 0.96

00:42:23.440 like it's like you're you let the problem out there and you linger a moment because it's like

00:42:28.640 then you don't have to ask and she jumps in god the lighting right now the early evening 5 p.m

00:42:35.460 darkness the blue sky and and the warm light of my lamp what it makes me feel like it's not 0.97

00:42:40.880 a great feeling it makes me feel like homework in the winter fuck like because it's like night 0.88

00:42:48.280 has you are so correct that that 507 there's something about also today i was driving when 0.99

00:42:55.780 i was craving the acai bowl and i passed a pink berry and thought fuck it should i just get a

00:43:00.140 pink berry it'll be like cheaper for sure and kind of give me what i want and there were there 0.93

00:43:05.060 were school children it was like probably 3 30 after school getting the after school snack and

00:43:10.820 i was like the the romance of the after school snack and just i remember when i graduated

00:43:16.560 graduated to me and my friend come home and just make pasta just just open the cardboard box of

00:43:24.520 this penne and just turn it upside down or just drop it into the boiling water and just make a

00:43:29.460 full oh or make little like what would you put on it what would you put on the pasta

00:43:34.560 we would either i mean i think we would just put put sauce on it but like you know and parmesan

00:43:40.720 or something it's pretty straightforward but sometimes we'd saute some onions and some

00:43:44.580 mushrooms maybe oh well because i love the simplicity of tons of a pasta with a really

00:43:53.520 high quality butter or olive oil salt and pepper parmesan and a little little lemon rind little

00:44:00.260 lemon rind that's absolutely like that's all it takes i know that's delicious i love it you don't

00:44:07.080 want it i'm so happy no no i like i love it okay but if tomato sauce of any kind is an option

00:44:14.160 it's basically impossible for me to not to use it yeah i understand that it's like sometimes i

00:44:19.560 crave the non-tomato sauce but generally speaking yes i remember a leftover pasta i had like i guess

00:44:26.840 at this point 15 years ago that had peas and it was whatever that kind of pasta dish is that has

00:44:33.180 peas little bits of um pancetta something porcine something what porcine porcine you know

00:44:42.480 purslane no what's saying the adjectival form of pork a porcine p-o-r-c-i-n-e yes porcine sorry

00:44:51.600 I didn't follow.

00:44:52.600 Yeah.

00:44:52.940 Something porcine.

00:44:54.460 Yeah.

00:44:55.000 And a creamy sort of white sauce, which, you know.

00:44:58.480 White sauce I tend to tense up around, generally. 0.99

00:45:01.600 Well, for good reason.

00:45:02.740 But this was, no, the sauce was pink.

00:45:07.420 I think it was pink with peas.

00:45:09.540 I mean, there are things where peas just can blow your mind.

00:45:13.920 Oh, listen to me.

00:45:15.180 The thing that my father does not cook at all never has.

00:45:19.420 Okay.

00:45:19.500 he can make toast yeah i've seen him dump a can of progresso soup into a never saw my father do

00:45:27.140 that that's about it and when i say about it i mean that's absolutely and then there's there

00:45:32.240 but there's one there's one dish coming that he can do really old school and a moth appears are 0.98

00:45:35.900 you fucking kidding me just flew by me but what do i have to kill that moth oh god what if it 0.98

00:45:42.280 replicates hang on let me think hang on if it replicates i don't think it i think they i god 0.99

00:45:50.040 all right let me think about this for a second it's okay they're drawn to the light i know but

00:45:56.040 there's so much light in the house i know it's fine i can't i'm not gonna be able to follow each

00:45:59.780 moth there was a moth actually the other day that was getting so in my face and i was swatting it

00:46:04.620 away it was coming for me and this way it was ancestral yeah i love that word and i didn't kill

00:46:11.820 it but listen here's wait really quickly yes i was gonna say oh yeah the thing that my father

00:46:17.940 taught me about food and talk about leftovers he loves frozen peas and he would always add cook up

00:46:24.520 he would boil peas and add them to like a leftover pasta or guess what a pea frittata i'm telling you

00:46:32.920 you scram you put eggs you make a frittata with peas and parmesan heaven sorry you ever have

00:46:40.280 cream cheese and olive sandwiches what no oh my god i'm so excited for you i love olives

00:46:46.140 cream cheese i don't like a lot of i have to usually scrape it off my bagel if it's too much

00:46:52.740 i don't like well to me there's sort of nothing worse than when the cream cheese when the bagel

00:46:59.060 is too warm or whatever and the cream cheese is like clear you know like i i kind of i kind of

00:47:05.080 like the horror i mean clear because there's not enough on it like it's no it's sliding off

00:47:08.900 yeah yeah no no clear like i mean like almost too thin like to me there should be a thick layer

00:47:14.540 now the classic new york like heinously cold thick cream cheese but with other things like

00:47:20.620 i i find it upsetting and i love it do you know what i mean yeah of course like i'm like i'm like

00:47:26.780 honey i am familiar with that dynamic yeah but but no right i didn't mean to imply obviously

00:47:31.540 it's quite quite simple quite straightforward like so what attraction and repulsion uh never

00:47:37.220 heard of it but specifically that my mother hates when butter isn't completely melted into toast

00:47:44.620 i'm not afraid of it i'm not afraid of it either in fact sometimes with the sometimes it kind of

00:47:49.260 feels good to just kind of bite into the butter like i can handle large i can eat butter plain

00:47:55.180 yeah like i can handle butter in a thick way i can't handle cream cheese in a thick way right

00:48:00.180 right i mean god i really come alive when we talk about food hungry baby girl i'm just thinking what

00:48:06.300 do i need what i want honestly we are i think we have to wrap up how and i actually have i guess

00:48:12.760 what i decided i boldly decided to check a bag again i did it again because when you're traveling

00:48:17.880 in the winter there's just more items well i'm thrilled for you i've been i've been checking

00:48:23.600 within an inch of my life recently okay i don't even stick the bag up in the top yeah pougar is

00:48:30.220 back i believe you slipped into pougar but we're both honestly we're both flying tomorrow

00:48:34.980 which is really cute when's your flight can you imagine when's your flight

00:48:37.660 tell me now um okay wait tell me now it's huge for you i'm panicking i can't remember

00:48:43.780 oh it's 11 15 fuck mine's at 9 a.m well i'll be at the airport at oh 9 15 0.95

00:48:52.420 fuck i wish you get there a full two hours early i aim for that yeah i i do an hour never a minute 0.98

00:49:00.820 over maybe an hour 15 have you ever missed a flight not once one time me and jamie lee comedian 0.99

00:49:06.860 jamie lee good friend we missed a flight sitting at the gate that's how you know you're with a

00:49:12.320 good friend we spaced out you and i would do that you and i would i know it's actually hysterical

00:49:16.720 because you're like by the way i had a whole thing i think i said recently i was on a plane

00:49:21.180 and a friend of mine my cousin was trying to catch the plane we're going to my cousin's wedding

00:49:24.980 and the thing happened where she forgot her id it was taking forever and i had to essentially the

00:49:30.680 flight tenants go please she's coming like it was like it would have taken off almost and i

00:49:34.620 and i told a little white lie i go she's the maid of honor please you didn't yeah no you didn't

00:49:41.820 that's so funny oh my god by the way it was obviously i don't think they're even allowed

00:49:47.860 to hold the doors like for a long time but they did right i think they held it maybe two minutes

00:49:51.940 she's the maid of honor please she's the maid of honor we had a hard year oh

00:49:57.300 okay oh what's that that's a beautiful bell that was given to me by my tour manager's parents

00:50:09.680 how sweet yeah it's beautiful all right kids i gotta go throw some toiletries in a bag

00:50:17.800 well you know what i bought i bought some small travel things and i'm gonna decant

00:50:22.460 my actual real skincare products into little bottles and i'm going to label them i'll post

00:50:31.200 those that'll be fun yeah i'm going to say that you know what i think has completely transformed

00:50:35.660 my packing process packing cubes packing cubes all right i want to talk about packing cubes

00:50:40.660 explain because just just the organization of underwears in here the other the organization

00:50:45.540 is the but also my main concern which is space management it makes it so it like the compression

00:50:53.080 you put them in i don't even have the compression ones but they're just in the cube it's like

00:50:56.860 it just makes it you have more space in there

00:50:59.560 i want to talk about packing for seven more hours and i don't have to be next week

00:51:05.540 really yeah because we have to go i'm doing a 9 p.m dinner tonight

00:51:11.340 wow where a little later than i usually bevel here in los angeles a very fancy mediterranean

00:51:18.260 restaurant by the way i think we were starting and we haven't a bevel no no oh a gorgeous

00:51:26.120 restaurant someone reached out and said when we were both back in town we could go remember that

00:51:30.080 why don't i remember begs for gifts and then doesn't notice when they arrive

00:51:36.160 sitting on the gold the whole time wow that story that feels profound for me

00:51:41.240 okay um listen the airport when we when we come back next week's up we'll be back we'll be home

00:51:47.500 take pics on the plane okay okay great you too know everything all right

00:51:52.040 oh it's gonna be brutal i'm way back in the plane i'm way in the back on this one

00:51:55.620 okay love you bye not me paint through the nose all right

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00:52:46.680 Crook and Chase Nashville chats with the coolest cat in country music.

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