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00:02:39.380 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:40.860 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

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00:02:42.800 an ongoing conversation about wellness

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00:03:14.420 When Lost and Found works out.

00:03:15.900 Well, you're gesturing to me.

00:03:17.080 You could weep for systems.

00:03:19.200 Listen to this.

00:03:20.220 We've been carrying on, needless to say.

00:03:23.280 We have identical backpacks.

00:03:25.920 identical Tom Benz

00:03:27.720 I have a role

00:03:28.540 I have a role

00:03:29.220 whatever the point is

00:03:30.200 1989 sort of

00:03:32.660 I was

00:03:33.040 woman of the 90s

00:03:34.040 it's like a 22 year old 0.96

00:03:35.380 yeah

00:03:35.640 it's broken

00:03:36.620 I'm attached to it

00:03:37.980 okay

00:03:38.320 point is I have this coat

00:03:40.520 that I love

00:03:40.920 I take off the coat

00:03:41.660 I put it in the overhead

00:03:42.640 land in San Francisco

00:03:44.960 here we are

00:03:45.600 oh my

00:03:46.060 in the car

00:03:46.980 yeah loved it

00:03:47.740 in the car I go

00:03:48.460 my jacket

00:03:49.600 I left my jacket

00:03:51.200 and by the way

00:03:51.660 I really like this jacket

00:03:53.820 okay it's a

00:03:54.540 it's truly

00:03:55.060 and I'd even spent a couple days going god I love my tour jacket I don't have to take a purse I can

00:03:59.440 just put there my pockets are in the mirror going fuck okay like I loved this jacket left it above 0.53

00:04:05.260 I start lacerating myself yeah left and right anything above below lacerating I was like well 0.97

00:04:11.740 this is what happens you know we lose things and yeah and it was sort of like oh god like because

00:04:17.140 it was like okay like whatever's been going on until now this is now the reality we're living

00:04:22.660 in right and kate like really goes into instant mourning and like dramatization you know what i

00:04:30.680 mean like telling the dramatic story of like of course like you know of course i lost it i decide

00:04:35.640 to do the thing and that is why exactly why i would lose the coat in this way and it's to me

00:04:39.660 it's it's it's in the very moments we could be taking action to rectify the scenario no i so we

00:04:45.680 get to and by the way moments before truly i haven't told you this but moments before i realized

00:04:49.720 I lost the jacket I was like I'm so lucky here in San Francisco it's a beautiful day

00:04:54.220 and every day of health is a gift which is the fucking truth and I was like and to have health

00:05:00.400 to be here with my friend to be doing this we you know meeting these people I'm the like my jacket 0.96

00:05:05.000 right and it just like it just immediately and then and then I was I mean and then you were 0.98

00:05:11.140 then you turned sour and I was like you know what fuck tour yeah I was like well I should have 0.98

00:05:17.380 exhausted. I'm overworked. No wonder. I go into it. And then get to the hotel. Fucking amazing 0.99

00:05:25.100 room. At the proper. I go there. Oh, it's a sweet, my jacket. And I texted you. I was 0.99

00:05:29.420 like, room's great. I was like, my jacket. And you said something beautiful. I was like,

00:05:33.160 still sick over my jacket though. No, and you started with it on, you don't understand.

00:05:36.520 You don't understand what this jacket is. I got this made in New York. They had a tiny

00:05:40.120 bit of fabric left, just enough to fit my frame. Okay. And they carved it. They carved

00:05:45.200 it for me and it was the perfect jacket it was the only jacket that i admired a store maybe the

00:05:49.540 store owner number seven can you imagine you know i'm talking about okay and i lose things all the

00:05:53.180 time and i get them back all the time okay this is the truth you needn't freak out the tide takes

00:05:57.540 them out and the tide delivers them don't go diving into the surf yeah and let the undertow

00:06:01.680 take you away yeah you know when you sit there with an open palm i knew someone who once lost

00:06:06.220 a contact lens in the ocean.

00:06:08.100 No.

00:06:08.500 They took a deep breath.

00:06:09.640 They found it.

00:06:14.040 And they were like,

00:06:15.280 there it is.

00:06:16.300 They were like,

00:06:17.020 they were like,

00:06:18.620 they were like.

00:06:23.900 And they popped it back in.

00:06:25.120 Isn't that incredible?

00:06:25.220 That's gorgeous.

00:06:26.200 That's beautiful.

00:06:27.160 But I was in the room,

00:06:28.700 you know,

00:06:29.140 blessings all around.

00:06:30.240 And I was like,

00:06:30.840 yeah,

00:06:31.060 I texted Yoko,

00:06:31.620 you don't understand.

00:06:32.540 Like,

00:06:33.100 it was made,

00:06:33.560 it was like made for me.

00:06:34.480 It's like the most money

00:06:35.360 I've ever spent on a jacket.

00:06:36.220 I'm like, I understand, I understand.

00:06:38.060 And then you said, you said, don't write eulogies.

00:06:40.980 When you could be saving lives.

00:06:42.940 Yeah.

00:06:43.400 Meaning the life of the jacket.

00:06:45.100 Yeah, to be clear.

00:06:45.700 So she's writing her the eulogy, and I'm like, they took it off the plane, and they put it in a box.

00:06:50.600 I could not believe that.

00:06:53.000 And then, let's just say a Delta loss file was filed, a loss claim was filed.

00:06:59.020 Picture of me with a jacket.

00:07:00.920 So a Delta picture of me in my jacket.

00:07:02.840 When you opt to add photo evidence through a medium that photo evidence is encouraged, like a message box, and then you see a little thing, you're like, wait, can I add an image?

00:07:14.420 And I always take the opportunity, you know?

00:07:16.500 I'm like, here we go.

00:07:20.020 I, whatever, filed it.

00:07:22.220 I'll just say this.

00:07:23.040 Went to the airport the next day because we were flying out.

00:07:25.260 It was convenient.

00:07:27.020 They go, Delta lost and found.

00:07:28.180 That's downstairs.

00:07:29.040 I go down there.

00:07:29.600 I go, hi, sir.

00:07:30.960 I was on a flight yesterday from Seattle to San Francisco.

00:07:33.700 There was just a tiny bit of fabric, and they carved it for my body.

00:07:37.320 I left my jacket, a very important jacket to me.

00:07:41.060 He goes, what's it look like?

00:07:42.500 He disappears.

00:07:43.880 Forty seconds later, he comes out with my jacket.

00:07:47.340 And I said, I go, and this is the Delta promise.

00:07:51.060 I said that to him.

00:07:51.960 Almost no reaction.

00:07:52.680 And we've had a couple of those.

00:07:55.400 I was sailing.

00:07:56.880 We've tried to land the brand acknowledgement, I feel like, but we've missed.

00:07:59.840 You know what I mean?

00:08:00.420 oh no I know what it was you were like you were like you know I knew Amex was special with their

00:08:05.140 incredible you know you were like I knew Amex was special ever since that incredible ad you know

00:08:09.760 there's grandmother's hands priceless right oh yeah oh yeah you know because because not Amex

00:08:13.980 yeah MasterCard no because Jacqueline has been booking the hotel rooms with her Amex

00:08:22.000 and I Zillow her, rather I Zell her. 0.98

00:08:28.660 Then she also gets $100 in her room. 0.82

00:08:31.800 She gets $100 credit towards anything.

00:08:32.340 To be clear, because she booked the room,

00:08:33.920 I get the $100 food credit that I wouldn't get 0.97

00:08:36.300 if I put down my shitty master card. 0.96

00:08:37.900 She gets the free breakfast over in her room. 0.99

00:08:38.660 That's four breakfasts.

00:08:39.880 That's huge.

00:08:40.620 Okay, across two people's.

00:08:42.120 And there was a moment where, you know,

00:08:43.780 I'm the cheap one, I'm the cheap one.

00:08:45.140 But Jacqueline was like, you know, the Ritz, whatever.

00:08:47.780 And by the way, I never stated a Ritz.

00:08:49.200 and I

00:08:51.680 told her a thousand times I go look

00:08:53.680 this Ritz it's not super expensive because

00:08:55.740 you can kind of tell if you kind of look at it

00:08:57.300 it's not like the brand new one

00:08:59.560 it's not a New York City Ritz

00:09:01.300 it's fine

00:09:02.840 and I go they'll have 24 hour dining

00:09:05.760 the service will be good you know the whole thing

00:09:07.760 but don't get this idea in your head

00:09:09.660 that this is going to be

00:09:10.780 meet you at the Ritz

00:09:13.480 or whatever you know like

00:09:14.620 and so she just keeps saying this thing the Ritz

00:09:17.260 like my first Ritz

00:09:19.080 And I'm like, well, you'll recall from three weeks ago

00:09:21.820 when you said, you know, nothing over $3.75.

00:09:24.420 Oh, yeah, oh, yeah.

00:09:24.760 And I said, well, yes, there's the Ritz, you know, at that cost.

00:09:27.880 And there's this other one at this cost and this other one.

00:09:29.960 They're all kind of equal.

00:09:31.480 And I think we should go for the 24-hour room service.

00:09:33.860 $30 more, you get the 24-hour, yeah.

00:09:34.760 Plus the, you know, plus the perks.

00:09:38.320 And you texted me.

00:09:39.000 You're like, it is not.

00:09:39.980 Do not get in your head that this is, oh, let's see how the Ritz pays off, right?

00:09:43.460 No, totally.

00:09:44.160 No, no.

00:09:44.520 She couldn't get it out of her head.

00:09:46.080 We're approaching.

00:09:46.860 My first Ritz, okay?

00:09:49.080 And I'm like my bride, you know?

00:09:52.600 And also, you had earlier on when we were booking,

00:09:56.820 you were like, I'm going to spend a little more

00:09:59.740 to get a little bit of a nicer room.

00:10:01.460 Do you want this one?

00:10:02.080 Of course, I was like, I'll take the cheaper one.

00:10:04.120 But then you said, maybe we'll get an upgrade.

00:10:06.240 We get to the desk, you get an upgrade, and I get an upgrade.

00:10:08.800 So I'm at the room that you initially booked,

00:10:10.560 and you're in the room higher.

00:10:11.900 We split off, we go to our rooms.

00:10:13.940 And I went in, and I opened the door. 0.52

00:10:16.440 and i was like totally i was like honestly i'd expect more from a race right but but but i was

00:10:22.400 fine i want to be clear i was actually fine i didn't open it and go you know but i just was

00:10:28.460 i was kind of you were like send me pictures you're like it was hell i had to just make peace

00:10:33.880 with myself like she's she cannot she will not shake this i cannot lower the expectations

00:10:38.540 appropriate i'm sending her text messages no it was really sad because my lover was with me okay

00:10:42.460 Yeah, I was on that.

00:10:43.220 I was on that.

00:10:43.380 He went up to my room, okay?

00:10:45.740 And I'm, like, only seeing it through your eyes, the potential of yours.

00:10:50.460 So I go in, like, I'm praying, you know what I mean?

00:10:52.260 I'm praying that there's something.

00:10:53.920 And I go in, and I just sort of, like, not for me.

00:10:57.340 Like, I'm good with the room, okay?

00:10:58.660 But I'm kind of, huh, okay.

00:10:59.860 And he's, like, oh, you're just, like, it's pretty wild.

00:11:02.240 You're pretty, like, used to staying at a Ritz.

00:11:03.600 And I'm, like, no, no.

00:11:05.000 Like, I just know this is not going to dazzle Kate.

00:11:07.860 No, no.

00:11:08.740 This is not going to be enough for her, you know?

00:11:10.140 But I was not.

00:11:10.840 I wasn't upset.

00:11:11.760 But I feel profoundly, but then she sends me these photos, like, show me what your room's like, okay?

00:11:17.040 And the photos are the kind of photos that, they're forensic in a way that I know when I see them,

00:11:24.820 they've already been sent to her mother.

00:11:27.200 They've been sent to a few people, kind of like, they're unloving.

00:11:30.880 They're flash, flash in a hotel room.

00:11:34.460 It's like the thing you have to ignore on, like, TripAdvisor.

00:11:37.520 You cannot look at someone's flash photography of a hotel room.

00:11:39.680 You'll be like, this is hell.

00:11:40.700 I had studied these photos.

00:11:42.280 I even sent you, again, my version of forensics

00:11:45.140 about our choosing a hotel in the first place,

00:11:46.700 I sent you a screen grab of me sending you a picture

00:11:49.500 of what our room, your room, would look like.

00:11:52.720 It was accurate.

00:11:54.300 There were no lies.

00:11:56.220 No, totally.

00:11:56.980 So I'm just, like, starting to defend the Ritz

00:11:59.160 like I've built it as a palace for Cape Verland.

00:12:03.760 And I was, but so it was fine.

00:12:05.280 But then eventually, so we went, did a show,

00:12:08.060 had a late dinner, we're getting back to the hotel,

00:12:10.060 and I said,

00:12:10.940 can I see your room?

00:12:13.720 It wasn't pre-dinner?

00:12:15.220 It was after.

00:12:15.760 It was late.

00:12:16.740 And then went into the room

00:12:18.520 and I was like,

00:12:19.400 now this is a room.

00:12:20.940 No, but I'll just say this.

00:12:22.620 And there's this inching.

00:12:23.700 There's a patina

00:12:24.640 on like someone else's experience

00:12:26.320 where you're like,

00:12:27.360 it's better.

00:12:28.580 You know, like I went in

00:12:29.360 or it was like,

00:12:30.900 you had also done

00:12:31.760 something remarkable.

00:12:32.580 You had like dimmed.

00:12:33.740 I didn't even dim.

00:12:34.920 You come in dark

00:12:35.740 where your light's not off

00:12:36.700 when you came in,

00:12:37.700 which is a very interesting.

00:12:38.520 I don't remember.

00:12:39.480 Wait, wait.

00:12:40.060 you had dimmed them or turn down service had dimmed them no no no i walked into a dark hotel room

00:12:45.320 no i was with you boom what what do you mean the hotel room was dark it was dimly lit when we

00:12:53.400 walked in to look at your room the lights it was beautiful no no no kate kate kate kate

00:12:57.580 when i went when i entered my room for the first time the first time i went into a dark

00:13:03.700 it was daylight it was daylight it was daylight are you sure i'm positive because i remember

00:13:11.780 maybe i remember lying there being like texting you about the room oh my god

00:13:16.760 i don't think it was i think it was a little dark it was a little dark it was not daylight

00:13:23.460 you're right we arrived in the evening i think you're right flight landed like seven it was not

00:13:29.120 daylight so it's i recall darkness and i go in and so each there's two lamps by the bed so i

00:13:38.160 turn it on a little by the way turn it on a little it's incredible because no one else knows but

00:13:42.600 you're exactly correct at level and everything aboard the switch was

00:13:45.820 instantly transported to philadelphia that's all it takes seeing you there

00:13:51.980 i went back you i think went in there like yeah yeah yeah i did i did

00:13:58.460 you were like you were like for flash like a psychopath you were like you were like let me

00:14:05.880 really blast this yeah and so i'm just sort of like lying there sad i'm trying to tell myself

00:14:11.500 like you know i start like it's just you know it's it's tough i'm like the forensics i told you i

00:14:17.000 told you you're like i'm not blaming you but i just feel this kind of like responsibility

00:14:19.920 and i told you and i said to you you feel this responsibility for me i'm telling you right now

00:14:23.760 i'm not unhappy i'm not disappointed i don't feel at all like you like you let us astray and then

00:14:27.860 i said do you have a bathrobe and slippers because i oh that's and that was on the car ride over i

00:14:34.280 said hey whatever it's gonna be fine all i know it's a ritz there's gonna be a bathrobe and

00:14:38.580 ultimately i'm excited for that i want to take a bath what no wait you lay down this thing i go

00:14:42.640 just stop with this this ritz stuff i told you the reason the only reason this is the one ritz

00:14:46.820 we're staying at is because it's cheaper than the other ritz totally because it's it they know it's

00:14:51.180 not you know brand new or whatever okay and so she'll have a robe and slippers she's telling me

00:14:56.280 now about rich standards and i go i can't guarantee that kate like i i just i can't guarantee that

00:15:02.500 yeah it will okay i get to the room i'm like okay like i spot i i check okay thank god there's a

00:15:09.640 robe i do think i clocked that there weren't any slippers and i was like maybe she won't notice

00:15:13.660 you know yeah anyway you're like where's the robe i'm like it's in the bathroom you're like it's not

00:15:17.360 you know you were like where i was like i trust you'll find yours yeah you said i trust you'll

00:15:22.080 find it and i was like she's laying boundaries that's fine because i because i immediately

00:15:25.580 multiple questions you know like where in the bathroom it's like but but i think it'll be

00:15:31.080 easier for you to look i'll say one thing too my eye did i'll say this was maybe my mate when i

00:15:36.320 went into the room this is what caught my eye and i went i don't like that was that you know when

00:15:40.280 people you get the complimentary water right this was like nestle this was like really scary nestle

00:15:50.720 water with like ritz logo and they had made their own label and i went don't it felt like a slap in

00:15:58.840 the face but that's that's 90s luxury okay they figured it out before the others did okay

00:16:03.220 so no they don't have the saratoga that they the you know they don't have the um but it was

00:16:08.440 so thin that do you know what i mean where it's like it just it's almost like one of the squirt

00:16:15.260 thing like it's so malleable it's like you just know sun hits that and the and it fuses the

00:16:20.780 plastic straight through yeah yeah but then okay but just quickly we went to your room after the

00:16:25.880 meal it was late night i walked in you had done beautiful dimming work went in and this was this

00:16:30.440 was a key difference you had thought to open your curtains so you have the glow of the city which

00:16:34.620 is you know deeply romantic and beautiful i i see that dim lamps i go very well done the room's

00:16:42.160 layouts identical i would say went into the bathroom the chief difference she had a tub i

00:16:46.680 didn't i swallowed that when i when i decided to take a cheaper room okay but i i the real moment

00:16:53.780 was you go well tub okay and i go yeah okay and then and because it's my one of my big things

00:16:59.820 i'll check for you know like i'll pay for a tub right sometimes the cheaper room will have a tub

00:17:04.040 sometimes there'll be a room yeah where you can get a queen bed in a tub or a king bed no tub

00:17:09.580 take the tub and run

00:17:11.260 take the tub and run

00:17:12.720 that's what you gotta ask

00:17:16.680 sometimes you gotta call and you gotta ask

00:17:18.660 high floor tub away from the elevator

00:17:21.020 thank you

00:17:21.760 so you come in

00:17:25.160 and I see the eyes

00:17:26.620 the eyes of the othering

00:17:28.940 of my room

00:17:29.620 one thing that also is funny is that we have identical toilet tube bags

00:17:32.720 which we arrived at separately

00:17:34.420 I think

00:17:35.600 I recommended it

00:17:38.460 But I saw, no, but remember I told you, no, no.

00:17:41.400 I got it from, what's her name?

00:17:42.900 I recommended it.

00:17:44.340 You might have ignored it.

00:17:45.780 Okay, okay, that's possible.

00:17:46.620 But I've been on that same toiletry bag for multiple years

00:17:48.980 because I got one one year, following year, I got it again.

00:17:52.140 It's fabulous.

00:17:52.680 I'm years deep in this thing.

00:17:53.400 Couldn't tell you what it's called.

00:17:54.700 But I saw it.

00:17:55.360 I'll post it.

00:17:55.780 It's a weird thing with an identical object.

00:17:57.600 That's my toiletry bag, but the difference is of yours, right?

00:18:00.980 Oh, and also, tell them what happened.

00:18:02.820 Well, I looked at it, and I saw something.

00:18:05.920 It looked high quality.

00:18:07.700 Well, I saw something that looked high-quality, hard shell, bright color.

00:18:10.580 They go, what's that?

00:18:11.160 And I was like, did you pay for that?

00:18:12.420 What is that?

00:18:12.940 Is that a product that was sent?

00:18:14.200 You know, like, did you get that for me?

00:18:15.540 It was my EpiPen.

00:18:16.820 Yeah.

00:18:18.100 I was, like, pawing at it through the plastic of the Toeche bag.

00:18:20.940 I was like, what is that?

00:18:22.360 And I thought it was, anyway.

00:18:23.740 But your bathroom just looked, and you're...

00:18:29.200 You go, the vanity, okay?

00:18:30.740 You go, no, that's a vanity or something, okay?

00:18:33.080 You go, I mean, this is just, you just go, this is just completely different than what

00:18:36.080 I'm experiencing $40 blow, you know, and whatever.

00:18:40.820 And then you go, I mean, let me show you my vanity.

00:18:43.020 Okay, then you pull out your phone,

00:18:44.400 and the forensic photos are 12, you know what I mean?

00:18:49.220 We, and it was the same.

00:18:51.620 Yeah, yeah.

00:18:52.420 No, that was a lesson.

00:18:53.560 And I go, grass is always greener!

00:18:55.500 Yeah.

00:18:56.060 No, I went back to my room with new eyes.

00:19:00.080 Sense of responsibility.

00:19:01.620 Yeah.

00:19:01.780 I went in with virgin eyes

00:19:04.180 And I immediately did

00:19:06.420 The dimming technique

00:19:07.400 I opened the curtains

00:19:08.620 I went alright

00:19:09.340 I was like

00:19:10.280 The dimmer is better on you

00:19:11.960 I still had a little of that

00:19:13.080 It's a huge lesson actually

00:19:15.060 The vanity suddenly looked beautiful

00:19:17.160 But earlier 1.00

00:19:17.860 Head looked like shit 1.00

00:19:19.880 Didn't look like shit 1.00

00:19:21.300 But I just 0.99

00:19:21.660 I was unmoved

00:19:22.360 Suddenly

00:19:22.900 It took on this new

00:19:24.400 There was a glow to it

00:19:25.320 Was there the glow of the friend

00:19:27.180 Okay like

00:19:27.680 I want there to be okay

00:19:28.640 Was there the glow of like

00:19:30.380 Jacqueline

00:19:31.760 is upstairs. I was downstairs.

00:19:33.960 It felt like upstairs, right?

00:19:35.960 It's funny when the lower room is better.

00:19:37.380 We've realized you really do feel.

00:19:39.260 There's something about when they're like, Kate, you're on

00:19:41.240 15, and Jacqueline, you're on

00:19:43.720 19. You're kind of like, bitch. 1.00

00:19:46.740 Yeah. 1.00

00:19:47.220 It feels like it's going to be better.

00:19:48.940 That's not how it works.

00:19:50.060 It's crazy that's not how it works.

00:19:51.820 What were we talking about? I don't know.

00:19:55.240 Oh, the glow.

00:19:56.480 Were you kind of picturing me?

00:19:58.580 I want you to be, so I'm just going to say it.

00:20:00.400 you're kind of picturing me in that very same vanity but like kind of like enjoying it and

00:20:06.040 and seeing it as beautiful yeah and you're like i too can bring the elegance of jacqueline's eye

00:20:12.360 yeah to this vanity i don't know like sometimes you need to see i mean so many things like can

00:20:17.700 you remember other times you've seen a friend that like you just inherently thought you know

00:20:22.260 was i don't know chic yeah something you see them use something that otherwise you were like whatever

00:20:28.080 but then you were like oh and then you start sort of like i don't know like

00:20:32.920 of course eating jerky or something and you're like i tried to hold my pen like the most beautiful

00:20:39.340 girl in my high school i was like i'm gonna write i'm gonna write like that i'm gonna hold my pen

00:20:42.260 like she you know and it was kind of it was like a way to like you know consume and enter oh i went

00:20:48.760 i tried to copy someone's handwriting once this was like i tried to copy my friend's handwriting

00:20:53.320 once like like i'm gonna do handwriting like her i'm like staring at her page staring at her page

00:20:56.680 And then I looked down and I had written her name.

00:20:59.920 Oh, wow.

00:21:01.020 Not my own.

00:21:01.800 That's actually scary.

00:21:03.020 I know.

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00:24:45.120 I think we can find a holiday in every month that we can create.

00:24:53.620 Doesn't the government have to supply one holiday a month?

00:24:56.740 I'm thinking, what's Easter?

00:24:59.620 You know what I find feeble?

00:25:01.520 You know what I find utterly feeble?

00:25:02.820 And I know you will too.

00:25:03.880 And they're like, it's National Pie Day.

00:25:06.000 And it's like, it's not.

00:25:07.040 You know what I mean?

00:25:08.200 I hate this.

00:25:09.860 This is interesting because I think this was around like 2017.

00:25:15.120 I was going to say.

00:25:15.680 Oh, okay.

00:25:15.940 Maybe earlier.

00:25:16.620 No, maybe earlier.

00:25:16.940 No, I wanted to see if we sort of landed.

00:25:18.400 They were going hard with the national,

00:25:19.800 and it was like,

00:25:20.360 it's National Chair Day.

00:25:21.800 Like, truly, it was like,

00:25:22.580 National Pi Day. 0.54

00:25:23.500 It's National Call Your Nephew Day. 0.96

00:25:25.780 Like, they were doing,

00:25:27.280 and it felt...

00:25:27.820 Also, the, like, midnight, you know,

00:25:30.100 after National Siblings Day or something, right?

00:25:33.860 What do they do then?

00:25:35.060 Oops!

00:25:35.300 By the way,

00:25:35.860 I'm not here at National Only Child's Day ever.

00:25:39.400 How many only children in the house?

00:25:40.820 How many onlys? 0.96

00:25:43.500 Should have known. 1.00

00:25:44.280 Interesting.

00:25:44.560 Wait, let me fill this out.

00:25:45.420 How many babies?

00:25:49.440 What? 1.00

00:25:49.760 Middles.

00:25:50.920 How many?

00:25:51.980 Okay, wait, I want to draw on that, on the middles.

00:25:54.260 Start again, start again.

00:25:55.040 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:25:55.700 So the biggest was what?

00:25:56.920 Start again. 0.99

00:25:57.420 How many onlys?

00:26:00.680 How many babies? 0.99

00:26:04.300 How many middles?

00:26:07.480 Wait a second.

00:26:08.400 How many oldest?

00:26:11.860 Oh, wait, that's funny.

00:26:13.240 That's funny.

00:26:14.140 Wow.

00:26:14.220 I ignored, I left them out, right?

00:26:16.420 I was trying to do the math.

00:26:17.740 That's weird.

00:26:18.500 Does that have anything, like, is there, this is how,

00:26:20.800 Did we miss a group?

00:26:22.320 Huh?

00:26:22.960 Did we miss a group?

00:26:23.980 Because the way I missed oldest was almost like a disturbing blind spot.

00:26:28.680 Is there any correlation between, this is like a math question that I think might be obvious.

00:26:32.120 Yes, yes, yes.

00:26:32.740 Is there any correlation between the median age in the room?

00:26:36.380 Do you see what I'm trying to say?

00:26:38.580 Like, is there any?

00:26:39.660 No, I don't think that's it.

00:26:40.740 No, right?

00:26:41.160 No, I think every child born, as long as the policy nationally wasn't, you know what I mean, in place about how many kids you could have, I think every child, and let's actually play this out.

00:26:53.700 Okay.

00:26:55.020 A given person, right?

00:26:56.800 A given person?

00:26:58.440 Yeah.

00:26:58.820 I'm just making sure I heard it right.

00:27:00.320 Okay, okay, yeah.

00:27:01.020 A given person.

00:27:01.800 Do they have, no, wait, seriously though, before, am I missing a category?

00:27:07.660 How many twins in the room?

00:27:09.520 Oh my god

00:27:12.080 I knew I was missing something

00:27:13.440 Stand up

00:27:14.820 Is anyone here with their twin?

00:27:20.340 Okay hold on

00:27:21.000 Solo twins stand now

00:27:23.180 Okay absolute silence in the room

00:27:25.380 Is there

00:27:27.760 Are you

00:27:28.260 Speak now if you are part of a twin group

00:27:31.180 That is in the room

00:27:31.940 You're with your twin

00:27:32.780 Okay we've got one I think

00:27:34.960 One pair

00:27:35.460 Alright now hold

00:27:36.960 all right now no one move i want to see the twins step up i mean stand up

00:27:42.320 oh my god what are your names

00:27:49.180 david and matt okay this is huge now one stood first and i think that says a lot i think that's

00:27:59.220 I think, tell me, am I wrong?

00:28:00.980 Did Matt stand first?

00:28:03.400 No, David, right?

00:28:06.220 Who stood first?

00:28:09.980 How do that many of you know who is who?

00:28:13.240 How many people here are friends with Matt and David?

00:28:17.640 Okay, interesting.

00:28:19.160 David and Matt.

00:28:20.020 By the way, I truly almost asked, are you the same age?

00:28:22.700 And I'm not kidding.

00:28:25.440 Who was born?

00:28:26.640 Okay, wait, David.

00:28:27.580 Wait, sorry.

00:28:28.120 Who's in the white shirt?

00:28:29.220 should we just bring them up yeah yeah bring them up if you wouldn't mind

00:28:36.780 we'll just bring them

00:28:40.040 david and matt david and matt

00:28:45.480 twins you don't actually we just yeah come to the

00:28:52.600 kaper lance finger telling you like you think you're headed to the stage and then kaper lance

00:28:58.280 No, sorry, I'm just demonstrating.

00:28:59.560 Did somebody order twins? 0.91

00:29:02.000 Okay, get dead center and face them for a second. 0.99

00:29:04.700 Identicale?

00:29:07.500 Now, here's a weird question.

00:29:09.620 Where are you guys from?

00:29:12.020 New York.

00:29:13.680 Identicale is what Kate said?

00:29:16.780 Real twins.

00:29:18.240 Real twins.

00:29:22.560 Did you hear that?

00:29:23.600 I've never heard that, like, a sound be produced by a crowd.

00:29:26.740 like that feels like that was like sports or politics like that was the only okay wait no

00:29:32.840 hold on now that's because non-identical twins are just two babies born and made in close proximity

00:29:40.580 probably in your minds right they're siblings are the same this is fucking fascinating that's huge

00:29:46.020 okay sharing a womb not enough right are there other siblings in the family yes there's an older 0.71

00:29:52.220 older brother he by the way let's just take a minute where is he with his wife and kid in

00:29:59.580 suburbs so typical yeah okay okay so much is coming out by the way i want to do an hour on

00:30:07.920 this because here i need you here i need you here actually so that i can sort of me and kate need

00:30:12.980 to be dead center but i just want to say this is interesting and there's something psychological

00:30:18.520 going on. I have such an allegiance with you. Not that I don't like Matt, but something's

00:30:23.120 happening. Something's happening. No, I know what you mean, actually. David's mine, okay?

00:30:26.740 No, I know. Like, I know nothing of Matt. Like, you know what I mean? It's kind of interesting.

00:30:33.200 Who was born first? Technically, I was. Interesting! I... Okay. Now, that doesn't mean...

00:30:42.760 Okay, here's a question. Sorry, I'm so excited. I could barely... It's as if I've never met

00:30:46.120 a twin. I'm about to fall into the... Kate, have you ever met a twin?

00:30:48.520 um yeah so but nonetheless I'm searching the archives and you're eclipsing any other previous

00:30:57.880 twins okay okay this is actually huge in terms of sort of the nature of consciousness etc let's get

00:31:05.280 real once and for all and actually no I'm not gonna put it all on you you're not okay by the

00:31:10.100 way I'm also do you experience each other's pain from afar give me give me the give me the good

00:31:15.900 I'm sticking here in this one. 0.95

00:31:16.740 And if you listen to Poog, you know, you're tapped in, okay? 1.00

00:31:19.520 By the way, I just want to take a minute to acknowledge the sanctity of twins being hags, 0.76

00:31:23.840 being at the show together.

00:31:24.600 This is absolutely, this is unbelievable.

00:31:26.240 Stunning.

00:31:28.940 This is honestly, this is major twin propaganda.

00:31:33.060 Because I've actually never been so in touch with the absolute loneliness that I will carry

00:31:36.800 with me forever.

00:31:37.860 A, only child, has its own stuff.

00:31:39.660 But even siblings in the room, I imagine.

00:31:41.580 I never know what it's like to be a twin, though.

00:31:43.180 Because imagine, imagine.

00:31:44.360 Sure don't.

00:31:44.760 oh there's there's imagine two twins laughing yeah i just mean that's first of all what's the

00:31:52.340 first moment well i guess it is that first moment i guess i was gonna say what's the first moment

00:31:57.000 that is twins because you're kind of shuttled around together right as children most likely

00:32:01.120 unless the parents are doing an experiment which some okay on some level the the parents of a of

00:32:10.420 an identical twin set right are doing an experiment right i mean like they can't help it

00:32:17.600 what happens if i name one of them david and one of them that's the first variable

00:32:23.240 okay okay quit obviously this is maybe an obvious oh what are you the census okay but

00:32:31.220 actually i don't think this is census related who cares okay listen what is going on with this

00:32:36.420 okay um fields of interest all right work similar i'm seeing difference

00:32:44.280 yeah okay different what's your field i'm a psychologist

00:32:50.100 okay hold on now wait now hold on not that one is defined by a career okay so your answer might be

00:32:59.380 i am a sensitive okay or i am a visionary i just it doesn't have to be career immediately

00:33:06.060 on david i know but look at look at matt's sleeves i'm sorry this is not

00:33:11.940 you are you are look at david's sleeves look at matt's sleeves i'm sorry hold them up this

00:33:20.280 these are small differences i'm curious about blouse right this is interesting it's a poet

00:33:25.420 yeah i didn't mean that's what it's called yeah yeah yeah okay okay okay here we go

00:33:30.220 Let's answer, let's let, let's let, um, okay.

00:33:33.780 Career.

00:33:34.520 Yeah.

00:33:34.780 I'm a civil rights lawyer. 0.99

00:33:36.320 Okay, well now I fucking. 0.99

00:33:39.020 Okay, now this is. 0.99

00:33:42.680 I couldn't go hard enough.

00:33:44.640 I couldn't.

00:33:45.340 No, no, no.

00:33:47.060 Imagine the dinner conversations.

00:33:49.860 Imagine, imagine these two at dinner.

00:33:52.180 Okay, I am.

00:33:54.400 No, do you.

00:33:55.200 by the way by the way this is your mother this is your mother

00:34:01.160 no it's it's almost too much and i'm sorry kate are you registering on these two because i am

00:34:09.760 okay i'm registering on these two a humility okay and a grace look how i know what is and

00:34:18.840 a grace. 0.97

00:34:19.960 Look how fucking relaxed 0.99

00:34:21.920 these two are. 0.99

00:34:23.840 I mean, this is like

00:34:24.940 unreal.

00:34:26.740 I mean, is everyone...

00:34:28.640 Okay, is it just me and Kate?

00:34:30.360 Or are you losing your minds

00:34:32.460 for these two?

00:34:33.240 Yeah.

00:34:33.980 I know.

00:34:37.180 I'm about to harvest 1.00

00:34:39.820 your sperm. 0.99

00:34:42.200 I'm literally... 0.99

00:34:43.440 I mean, truly.

00:34:44.160 There's a humility in their posture.

00:34:46.720 They're comfortable

00:34:47.480 being both one and two.

00:34:49.340 I want to also note the way, yeah.

00:34:51.360 And I didn't mean one and two, one and two.

00:34:53.420 I meant one and two.

00:34:55.580 You know what I'm saying?

00:34:56.880 Like there's something, all right, tell us everything.

00:35:06.320 Give us.

00:35:07.320 Yeah, no.

00:35:10.880 Without me.

00:35:12.820 All right, all right, all right.

00:35:13.940 Here's a question.

00:35:14.580 Matt, I'm not amplifying you.

00:35:15.780 No, you make a great point.

00:35:16.660 wait are you wait first question do you regret coming up no good no wait I feel

00:35:25.060 like they need to see your face a little bit they do they do they do they're

00:35:29.380 seeing how gorgeous okay not to make it about poog oh great great idea I love 0.58

00:35:37.600 this okay didn't even occur to me to have myself reflect like reflected back

00:35:41.020 through their gaze? No, let's integrate into the story. Okay. Who, yeah, how'd Pooh enter? Who first?

00:35:46.380 How'd it enter? I'm gonna say I recommended it. Okay, I had a feeling, and maybe that's just because I'm in

00:35:52.460 close physical proximity. I'm willing to give David the credit for discovering. I think. Okay, interesting

00:36:00.220 subtext there. Okay, okay. Resisting the temptation to find the text. Huh? Wait, what? Wait, what?

00:36:09.660 I was just saying I'm resisting the temptation to go into my phone and find the record.

00:36:14.940 Well, as a lawyer.

00:36:16.380 Exactly.

00:36:16.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:36:18.400 Uh-oh, you're going to get subpoenas by your twin.

00:36:20.960 It's happened before.

00:36:22.600 Now, civil rights lawyer, though, are you...

00:36:25.320 Tell us everything.

00:36:26.740 I know.

00:36:27.300 There's no time.

00:36:28.440 There's no time.

00:36:29.680 It's a recession-proof business.

00:36:33.720 Genius.

00:36:34.580 Genius line.

00:36:36.140 Undeniable.

00:36:36.700 Do you say on the phone?

00:36:37.380 Yeah.

00:36:37.600 Wait, question.

00:36:41.380 Okay. 0.72

00:36:42.980 So, back to Poog.

00:36:44.620 Any products or anything you have tried

00:36:47.140 as a twin or separately?

00:36:51.280 Not so far, but...

00:36:53.420 Thank you, because that is good to hear.

00:36:55.600 We're not merely just... 1.00

00:36:57.120 Not a couple of whores 1.00

00:36:58.000 shouting out moisturizer. 1.00

00:36:59.840 The strategist shoved into two sets of tits. 1.00

00:37:02.420 Yeah. 1.00

00:37:03.300 That's good to hear.

00:37:04.100 They're there for the notions alone.

00:37:05.800 Anything by you?

00:37:07.600 Um, I used some Sturm stuff just today, ever since Sturm Caved.

00:37:12.380 Sounds like business is going well if they're buying Sturm.

00:37:15.200 Okay, Sturm over here, no Sturm over here.

00:37:16.920 Now, I will say the complexion's on both.

00:37:19.360 Perfection, so I think we've answered the question.

00:37:22.180 Oh, my God.

00:37:23.040 Skincare.

00:37:23.840 It's like the Dove ads, but for Barbara Sturm, it's like civil rights lawyer.

00:37:27.480 Yeah.

00:37:28.540 You know what I mean?

00:37:30.680 Yeah.

00:37:31.280 Could be a huge campaign.

00:37:32.880 Now, what about...

00:37:34.740 The one of you loves spicy food and the other one hates it.

00:37:36.900 I would consider you, maybe not, it's a risk, 1.00

00:37:42.540 but do you remember how you may have sort of evangelized Poog

00:37:48.440 in your recommendation, if we go with that narrative?

00:37:51.440 How I evangelize?

00:37:52.440 I'm sure I just, well, I think because we have seen both of your live shows,

00:37:57.700 you know.

00:37:59.300 I think all it took was Kate and Jacqueline have a new podcast.

00:38:04.540 When we saw Get On Your Knees, this is true,

00:38:06.900 we walked in not knowing that the other was going to be there

00:38:09.780 and ran into each other entering the show.

00:38:12.780 I forgot about that.

00:38:14.400 I forgot about that. 1.00

00:38:16.300 Get on your knees.

00:38:17.740 Premiering January 23rd on Netflix.

00:38:19.580 We have to walk it back. 0.96

00:38:20.340 Brings twins together who weren't even together.

00:38:23.940 This is huge, okay?

00:38:25.320 I need the details of that.

00:38:26.680 Was that like you were settling into your seat and you were like...

00:38:29.920 I think we were like literally...

00:38:31.840 I think we were like literally walking down the aisle

00:38:36.880 finding our seats and like turn yeah this is a charlene like 22 f 22 oh i couldn't think of

00:38:42.060 the letter next to f but yeah it's like one of those yeah what do you do when you see your twin

00:38:46.880 say it into the thing what do you do when you see your twin unexpectedly

00:38:51.680 say hi

00:38:54.780 totally yeah all right well this is honestly honestly it should be done with you i mean we're

00:39:05.120 We have to, like, let you sit again.

00:39:07.840 But, like, I could go all night with you, too.

00:39:11.920 And by the way, by the way, are there any more...

00:39:14.220 Stand up if you're an identical twin or regular

00:39:17.420 and your twin is not here, but you are here as a twin.

00:39:21.660 You see what I'm saying?

00:39:22.240 Oh, right, so should we let them go and then...

00:39:24.640 No, I just want...

00:39:25.320 I kind of want the twins to be able to see each other.

00:39:27.280 Like, stand up if you're a twin.

00:39:30.120 Also, just curious numbers.

00:39:31.300 Remember some here.

00:39:32.160 Twin stand, twin stand.

00:39:34.140 Whoa! 0.99

00:39:35.120 So we've got solo twins in the house.

00:39:38.840 I want to see them all. 1.00

00:39:39.780 Bring them down.

00:39:40.780 Okay, sure.

00:39:41.340 Bring them down if you're a twin.

00:39:43.360 If you're a twin, come on down. 1.00

00:39:44.860 Twins down.

00:39:50.860 And you guys stay as the anchor, the bookend.

00:39:54.580 Yeah, you're the anchor, the twins, and then go in the other twins.

00:39:58.120 Whoa!

00:39:58.280 Oh, my God. 0.55

00:40:02.580 Look at these freaks.

00:40:05.120 to see a twin without their twin this is wild are there any non-twins in the crowd tonight

00:40:10.940 okay this is huge you know why this is interesting okay everyone get in you know

00:40:15.140 what this is compelling look at this yeah get in get in get in tight tight tight keep it moving

00:40:18.980 pecking like sardines okay now this is compelling because they are as a group okay as individuals

00:40:25.120 used to being grouped right right right but not individually right yeah so there's something new

00:40:33.640 hear or this has happened to you before wow you've been called out sort of as join the other twins

00:40:38.900 now who of this group thinks they're the better twin

00:40:44.320 go for it yeah

00:40:49.240 no wait balcony twins balcony twins all right get in get in two rows two rows

00:41:00.560 Why is it two rows?

00:41:03.980 But look, this is interesting

00:41:05.380 David and Matt, the only twins that came together

00:41:08.380 Wait, the only one who came together is identical

00:41:12.120 No one else has an identical twin 0.66

00:41:13.420 Identicals? How many identicals? 0.89

00:41:15.560 Okay, interesting, hold on

00:41:17.280 Identical

00:41:17.840 They're both the fourth in

00:41:20.560 The two other identicals are the fourth one's in

00:41:22.920 One, two, three, four

00:41:24.320 Now, you two, get to the center

00:41:27.120 I want to see something here

00:41:28.340 you two identicals but not with each other but identical in another way by being the only

00:41:36.880 identical solo by the way is it gorgeous identical twin night somebody finally said it now is it

00:41:49.220 wrong i want to know is a gay identical twin and and and who are both 0.63

00:41:55.420 No, I'm telling you. 0.99

00:41:59.400 Hands high.

00:42:00.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:42:02.020 You're gay, you're a twin's not. 0.93

00:42:04.080 No, she wasn't asking who both are, you know?

00:42:07.720 But I'm also just curious all of it.

00:42:09.380 That's interesting, though.

00:42:09.480 Yeah.

00:42:09.980 Yeah, no, I think it was an individual.

00:42:11.820 Okay.

00:42:12.340 I don't know what I was asking.

00:42:13.460 But the identical twin, you spoke, I just want to be clear, my brother who's not here,

00:42:18.080 right, that's what was going on?

00:42:19.380 You're gay, you're identical twin, are you single? 0.85

00:42:21.860 I am. 0.99

00:42:22.360 Uh-oh!

00:42:23.920 Well... 0.99

00:42:24.360 welcome welcome okay how many are you single i'm not not single who can blame uh are you gay though

00:42:33.900 is your straight and not single we love you anyway we love you we love you doll no we love

00:42:42.720 you just the same are you is your is your partner here sorry my sister is though okay did your that's

00:42:49.220 what i'm talking about it okay so are you like you've never heard the podcast no i have oh

00:42:53.840 I showed it to her.

00:42:54.960 Okay.

00:42:55.740 To your girlfriend?

00:42:56.640 No, my sister. 1.00

00:42:59.140 She's the little sister of twins. 0.90

00:43:01.900 Oh, imagine being born into that. 0.99

00:43:03.780 I forgot you were twins for a second.

00:43:05.360 Yeah, I know.

00:43:06.500 By the way, so you're an identical twin.

00:43:09.640 Yeah.

00:43:10.580 Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

00:43:12.220 Something's happening.

00:43:13.060 We were told we were fraternal, and then we took a 23andMe test.

00:43:16.520 When?

00:43:17.060 Like when we were 21, and we found out we're identical.

00:43:20.120 do you want to do you want to know the science yes well we want to also know tell us yeah tell us

00:43:27.140 tell everyone everything and we also want to i'll pose a few questions and then i'll hand it over

00:43:31.760 okay so thought you were fraternal because because exactly fraternal twins

00:43:36.860 so fraternal twins fraternal twins two sacks placenta identical twins one sack oh boy so they

00:43:49.180 So they look at the placenta to determine, but 25% of the time, identical twins can be

00:43:57.140 in two sacks, is what I found out.

00:44:01.800 Okay.

00:44:02.820 I'm doing the animated version.

00:44:04.660 I'm trying to animate what you're saying.

00:44:06.940 And then you found out.

00:44:08.240 Keep going.

00:44:09.140 Yeah, so we were in two sacks, but we ended up being identical.

00:44:13.140 Yeah.

00:44:14.160 This is in utero.

00:44:17.620 Double sacks, yeah.

00:44:19.180 so cool so and younger sister this is actually so you can hold yourselves quite special because

00:44:26.640 is there a percentage of identical twins that end up in in separate sacks 25 okay so a quarter

00:44:32.280 but still i think you can go like we had boundaries from the start yeah it's like there's one membrane

00:44:40.640 but there you were still part of yeah there's like a whole thing it gets a little wacky down

00:44:44.900 What's it like dating as a twin?

00:44:48.600 Have you ever dated another twin?

00:44:50.520 No.

00:44:51.560 Do you think that ultimately maybe you can only really connect with someone if they're a twin?

00:44:55.960 Yeah.

00:44:56.620 I don't know if I would immediately trust if I was dating someone else who was a twin.

00:45:00.680 But it's easier if it's just one of you that's a twin, you know?

00:45:03.840 Wait a second.

00:45:04.660 To bring up trust.

00:45:06.180 I don't even understand.

00:45:07.080 To bring up trust.

00:45:08.820 Explain.

00:45:09.400 Wait, wait, wait.

00:45:10.080 Well, like, to marry a twin is difficult, right?

00:45:13.200 because like there's always the question which is like are we gonna switch are we gonna switch

00:45:18.080 there's always a question it's like it's like whose person are you really are you like am i

00:45:24.940 loyal to my twin or my girlfriend somebody finally said it okay someone yeah well yeah

00:45:32.820 dude for sure

00:45:36.420 yeah wow do you ever feel like no you're just sorry i'm just going i'm having a moment where

00:45:44.300 you know when you go like it's like you open up one present you go and then you see all these

00:45:48.120 like there's this feeling of like there's such depth here that we could go and then they're all

00:45:52.420 they're all they have these stories they each have a comment like it's it's it's overwhelming

00:45:57.000 like I think we might have to do like a twin season of yeah yeah because this and by the way

00:46:04.500 the two o's the individual sacks much like creative uh collaboration right kind of a twinning and

00:46:10.220 sometimes I look at you and I go hi we look like you know yeah and so and the individual sack and

00:46:15.340 then collaboration is the sack sort of bumping yeah kind of bumping right

00:46:18.620 yeah I mean and of course you know one sack the mother yeah I mean that's the thing

00:46:26.980 right there's a sack within a sack within a sack yeah right there's kind of a just because i'm

00:46:33.220 curious has that what was your name twin firman firman has anyone else related to that's a good

00:46:41.080 how do you say it what like firman firman f-u-r-m-a-n old family name what it's how'd you

00:46:50.340 know yeah yeah it's gotta be right but is an old family name like was it a last name at one point

00:46:56.600 You know what I'm talking about?

00:46:57.760 Yes.

00:46:58.420 For a second?

00:46:58.980 It was my grandmother's maiden name, yeah.

00:47:00.800 Oh, my God.

00:47:01.460 Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:47:02.340 I love that shit. 1.00

00:47:03.280 Because the way you said Furman, I thought, alias, CIA, something. 1.00

00:47:08.380 Do you work in, like, aviation?

00:47:12.280 Oh, because...

00:47:13.340 Well, no, because you don't...

00:47:14.440 And I mean, this is a huge compliment.

00:47:15.960 You look like a pilot.

00:47:16.800 Yeah.

00:47:20.420 You sure do.

00:47:22.100 You're like a gorgeous...

00:47:22.860 If I was boarding Delta and I saw you,

00:47:26.560 hey, welcome, right?

00:47:29.360 If I saw you, imagine leaving the plane.

00:47:33.380 I'm, you know, and then, thanks so much.

00:47:35.480 I have been, by the way, on this trip,

00:47:37.740 I have been really delivering on thanking the pilots

00:47:42.300 like you wouldn't believe, okay?

00:47:43.620 We never even talked to a pilot on the trip.

00:47:45.440 I've been approaching from like as far,

00:47:46.620 almost letting a little room pass

00:47:48.140 so they're ready for me, you know what I mean?

00:47:49.920 And then I'm kind of like, like from afar,

00:47:51.920 So it's like a whole thing.

00:47:52.920 It's like, it's kind of like, this all happened for us.

00:47:55.120 And like, here I come.

00:47:56.360 You're unbelievable.

00:47:57.300 And like, all I can say is thank you.

00:47:59.440 Right?

00:47:59.780 Yeah.

00:48:00.220 But then when I land the thank you, there should have been this like run up to it.

00:48:03.440 You look like some of the ones we've seen up there.

00:48:05.620 Yeah.

00:48:06.620 You could be a pilot if you need to be.

00:48:09.800 Now, interesting.

00:48:10.680 I just want to say something.

00:48:12.020 Okay, hold on.

00:48:13.320 The other twins right here.

00:48:14.740 Yeah.

00:48:15.200 They've really held their own, I got to say.

00:48:17.280 Okay.

00:48:17.980 And that's, I believe, because of the twin experience growing up.

00:48:21.040 they were able to stand here,

00:48:23.380 know that they were people too,

00:48:25.280 even though the microphone wasn't on them.

00:48:27.940 Do you see what I'm saying?

00:48:28.860 I see that in every single one of you.

00:48:30.960 Oh my God.

00:48:32.040 By the way, does anyone feel anger

00:48:33.500 because as an only child,

00:48:34.900 if all this attention were good, 0.99

00:48:36.380 I'd be like, I'd fucking leave. 0.99

00:48:38.200 Like, I'm not kidding. 0.97

00:48:39.040 I think, I think, or I'd be like, I'd be like.

00:48:44.140 They're all holding themselves with dignity.

00:48:45.520 I know.

00:48:46.560 Which isn't, you know, not everyone,

00:48:48.100 I mean, everyone's really.

00:48:50.460 How do we get off this?

00:48:53.380 No, because...

00:48:54.020 No, don't move, okay?

00:48:55.180 No, because I'm...

00:48:55.660 But also, I'm like...

00:48:56.660 No, what I'm saying is,

00:48:58.600 I think we need to find one core question

00:49:01.100 that we ask and get an answer

00:49:03.040 from every single person.

00:49:04.060 We've got to get it good.

00:49:04.680 Okay, we've got to get it good.

00:49:10.100 Okay, I think it's got to be yes or no to move quick.

00:49:13.480 It's got to be quick.

00:49:14.160 I had an essay question ready.

00:49:15.980 I don't think...

00:49:16.500 Yeah.

00:49:16.900 I was thinking, 0.99

00:49:17.540 what's the most fucked up moment of your life? 0.98

00:49:19.420 specifically as a twin yeah i think i think does anything come to mind under a sentence 0.99

00:49:24.800 um it's not good they love you finding my twin brother nearly dead on a beach

00:49:35.080 but he's fine okay we call this stealing focus in the entertainment industry

00:49:39.420 what about the relief when you heard the word nearly yeah yeah that was big yeah

00:49:45.620 All right.

00:49:46.320 And yet you, okay.

00:49:47.600 Pooppodcasts at gmail.com.

00:49:48.800 We'll take the rest of the story then, okay?

00:49:50.600 You ready?

00:49:51.320 And by the way, you know, no wrong answer. 0.99

00:49:52.880 Wait, we're going with most fucked up thing that's ever happened to you as a twin? 0.98

00:49:55.520 Is that what we're doing down the line? 0.99

00:49:56.960 She, we got it in one answer.

00:49:59.460 I mean, we got it in a sentence.

00:50:00.520 No, that was quick.

00:50:01.180 We're moving.

00:50:01.840 Okay, rapid fire.

00:50:03.000 Rapid fire.

00:50:04.520 Or just anything you want to share as a twin.

00:50:06.740 It's chaos now.

00:50:07.560 Totally okay to go, don't have an answer to that.

00:50:10.180 Here's something else.

00:50:10.960 Or, you know, you can say pass.

00:50:12.540 you can say you can say if you have a twin anecdote or you can say if you are happier if you

00:50:18.540 would you switch places with anyone else do you love being a twin that's kind of my my little

00:50:24.440 question that's your out yeah when my parents got divorced my brother lived with my dad and

00:50:30.420 i lived with my mom not okay incredible if your parents are here stand

00:50:38.260 I was left at a gas station just just briefly like for an hour you know

00:50:46.960 does your twin have an old family name too no they're just Benjamin is his name

00:50:55.020 right interesting you're both men I mean you're both men you know what I'm saying

00:51:01.140 right for men and Benjamin yeah okay we're both to entranced with him we have

00:51:07.500 to when i was a me and my twin were both babies people used to ask if we were identical um he's 0.92

00:51:17.520 a boy and i'm a girl and my mom would say yeah but he has a penis love when we were 16 my brother

00:51:27.480 was almost killed in a car accident and a stranger came and knocked on the door while i was home 0.96

00:51:30.960 alone and told me and i had to call my parents and let them know we have to take a hard right

00:51:34.780 turn in another direction it's too upsetting this is incredible you're doing correct you're

00:51:39.060 that was incredible you're being perfect that was incredible i cannot wait this is going great kate

00:51:44.300 just trust it okay um it's not i mean my my twin brother has type 1 diabetes and i don't

00:51:52.520 i won yeah i won that trade luck of the draw this life ain't it luck of the draw okay you're not

00:51:59.880 you're not together in everything right it's kind of the answer and again you can also just

00:52:03.460 opt out and say i i love being a twin or sometimes i wonder if i if i was not a twin what my life

00:52:09.060 would be like my twin brother is a republican

00:52:12.520 still to this day i will respond to um the name jordan but my name is trevor

00:52:28.840 oh wow jordan see i saw it in your eye imagine getting to be trevor's boyfriends

00:52:39.520 people do hook up at pook shows i think so and even if something romantic doesn't happen

00:52:47.340 you could find a friend tonight and i'll send till be that will last longer than whatever

00:52:51.200 romance might be sparked tonight okay friendship at all costs um my twin brother has dated a

00:52:57.020 couple of my best friends i think he's cool yeah yeah uh i can't imagine wait i just have to

00:53:08.900 quickly that's right being your friend and then i have to tell you something

00:53:11.620 okay keep going so uh my twin brother is gay and so are my parents and one time they went on a

00:53:22.020 They went on a weekend trip without me

00:53:25.120 And they sent a bunch of videos

00:53:26.460 About how they were having so much fun 1.00

00:53:28.180 Because it was finally just the gays 1.00

00:53:29.940 Yeah 1.00

00:53:36.740 But I'm an ally

00:53:39.820 You're an ally

00:53:41.240 You are an ally

00:53:42.200 Yes

00:53:42.800 To be flanked on all sides

00:53:46.580 Yeah

00:53:48.080 When I was little

00:53:50.560 we were on a family trip to Disney World

00:53:52.600 and I got separated from my family and my mom was running

00:53:54.660 around frantically with David

00:53:56.080 asking people, has anyone seen another little boy

00:53:58.700 who just looks like this?

00:54:01.540 And that's how they found me.

00:54:04.520 You were found

00:54:07.240 by your

00:54:09.080 being like another.

00:54:10.880 Exactly.

00:54:11.420 You were sort of located in space.

00:54:15.400 Exactly.

00:54:16.280 But that's also

00:54:18.640 happened in many other ways that were not

00:54:20.480 so you know

00:54:21.220 who hasn't been

00:54:23.060 separated from their

00:54:24.080 twin at Disneyland

00:54:24.720 you know that is

00:54:25.920 true good point

00:54:26.780 kind of a modern

00:54:27.660 conundrum

00:54:28.820 okay

00:54:29.220 um

00:54:31.220 my twin brother

00:54:32.980 once stabbed me

00:54:34.040 with a fork

00:54:34.760 in the crease

00:54:36.000 of my arm

00:54:36.620 because he was

00:54:37.100 mad at me

00:54:37.740 yeah

00:54:38.600 and that's it

00:54:39.420 did he feel it

00:54:41.020 oh god

00:54:42.660 no he definitely

00:54:45.060 did not

00:54:45.720 yeah

00:54:47.340 pass it down

00:54:48.480 uh

00:54:49.760 love your necklace

00:54:50.460 by the way my twin sister and i had a business when we were six where we would pick up dog poop

00:54:56.140 in our yard and our neighbor's yard and no no no pick it up pick it up yeah yeah but i did all of

00:55:03.860 the picking up she did all the spotting so she's like it's over there and then i would pick it up

00:55:09.700 because i was like the obedient one let me guess she was born four seconds earlier she was like 0.99

00:55:14.300 Ten minutes. 0.86

00:55:14.920 Ten minutes earlier.

00:55:16.340 Isn't that interesting?

00:55:18.680 I've run out of space.

00:55:19.860 The umbilical cord of the mic seems to have.

00:55:23.020 Oh.

00:55:23.820 My twin brother used to always do our math homework,

00:55:26.660 but sometimes he would withhold it, so.

00:55:29.740 Oh, my God.

00:55:31.640 Wow.

00:55:34.680 This has already been said,

00:55:36.520 but my twin brother dated my best friend in high school. 0.99

00:55:42.560 Damn. 0.99

00:55:43.160 best friend though 0.99

00:55:44.900 how long did it last

00:55:46.900 like a year

00:55:49.260 did the friendship last

00:55:50.840 did the friendship suffer

00:55:51.840 or obviously

00:55:52.800 but did the friendship

00:55:53.640 transcend

00:55:54.640 no

00:55:56.100 it took out both

00:55:58.300 one of it transcended

00:55:59.220 honestly it ended badly

00:56:00.680 for everyone

00:56:01.660 oh my

00:56:02.240 no no but now we're good

00:56:03.380 now me and freddie were great

00:56:04.780 you and the the friend

00:56:06.220 or the twin

00:56:07.460 me and the friend

00:56:07.820 me and the twin

00:56:08.520 everyone's good

00:56:09.180 I'm an only child

00:56:10.260 but I can only imagine

00:56:11.220 being like

00:56:11.660 don't blow my brother

00:56:13.460 like 0.92

00:56:14.160 yeah

00:56:16.720 yeah I get that

00:56:19.900 I don't have anything

00:56:22.620 traumatic to share but I enjoy being a

00:56:24.660 twin and I like your guys podcast

00:56:26.220 oh

00:56:27.220 the rest of the group going I didn't

00:56:30.640 know I could do that

00:56:31.720 and the final head of the evening

00:56:34.500 and then we'll do only's just kidding

00:56:36.400 I also enjoy

00:56:38.620 being a twin and I think fun fact

00:56:40.780 the first time anyone ever sang

00:56:42.480 happy birthday to us alone

00:56:43.780 was when we were 19.

00:56:46.080 Alone meaning?

00:56:48.660 Individuation.

00:56:49.140 One before the other?

00:56:50.300 No one had ever sang happy birthday to you.

00:56:53.120 Happy birthday to you.

00:56:56.800 To you.

00:56:57.280 Happy birthday to you.

00:57:00.600 Happy birthday, dear. 1.00

00:57:03.300 We both hate you. 1.00

00:57:07.380 Now give one name only. 0.96

00:57:08.560 Come on, give us a little bit.

00:57:09.280 Okay.

00:57:09.440 well this has been extraordinary guys thank you so much thank you all so much

00:57:16.640 that thank you was wild

00:57:21.380 this is rider strong and i have a new podcast called the red weather

00:57:33.640 it was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea

00:57:38.820 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune.

00:57:43.280 It was hard to wrap your head around.

00:57:44.700 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

00:57:48.340 No, I am not your guru.

00:57:52.100 And back then, I lied to my parents.

00:57:54.720 I lied to police.

00:57:55.980 I lied to everybody.

00:57:57.000 There were years right where I could not say your name.

00:57:59.960 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,

00:58:02.640 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,

00:58:05.460 whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.

00:58:08.820 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend?

00:58:13.380 They have had this case for 30 years. 0.95

00:58:16.320 I'll teach you sons of a** to come around here and my wife. 0.90

00:58:19.340 Boom, boom. 0.97

00:58:20.660 This is The Red Weather.

00:58:23.640 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:58:31.380 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, from The Girlfriends.

00:58:34.460 the number one hit true crime show that puts women right in the centre of their own stories.

00:58:41.220 I'm back with more one-off interviews with some truly kick-ass women on The Girlfriend's Spotlight. 0.96

00:58:48.200 I want to introduce you to Sylvia. 0.99

00:58:50.800 I'm going to climb this.

00:58:53.520 And then there's Vaisaka.

00:58:55.280 Let's see how we can stop killing and save lives.

00:58:59.380 Leila dared to ask the question.

00:59:01.840 Is badness hereditary?

00:59:03.900 And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.

00:59:06.000 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived,

00:59:08.820 she wouldn't have died on that fatal night.

00:59:11.760 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,

00:59:13.500 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.

00:59:16.520 I'm not too intimidated by her.

00:59:17.940 What are you talking about? 1.00

00:59:20.900 Listen to The Girlfriend Spotlight

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01:00:00.740 Ever feel like you're being chased by the marriage police?

01:00:04.740 Welcome to Boys and Girls,

01:00:06.460 the podcast where dating isn't dating.

01:00:08.640 It's a full-on love triathlon.

01:00:11.240 A morning what-if, an evening maybe,

01:00:14.380 and a 3 p.m. chai with a could-this-please-be-the-one.

01:00:18.140 Because in the arranged marriage universe,

01:00:20.000 you're basically on a sushi conveyor belt,

01:00:22.040 and like raw fish, you've got a shelf life.

01:00:24.780 and the wild part

01:00:27.300 you're not just looking for someone you like

01:00:29.120 you're casting for a mythical hero

01:00:30.700 your entire family approves of

01:00:32.780 a saint, a demigod, a unicorn

01:00:35.260 I know because years ago

01:00:37.240 I sacrificed myself to this chaotic

01:00:39.480 soul-crushing tradition

01:00:40.740 hoping to find love the correct way

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01:00:45.300 cringy, heartfelt ride 1.00

01:00:46.960 through the highs and lows of the Indian arranged marriage

01:00:49.720 finally giving you the validation

01:00:51.700 and healing you deserve

01:00:53.800 Listen to Boys and Girls starting February 19th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

01:01:23.800 By the way, because on this tour, we've been going, we're so lucky, the Hags.

01:01:26.660 Because it's true. 0.91

01:01:27.200 I mean, not to, but I mean, no, not to get a, no, truly, are you kidding?

01:01:30.860 I'll start crying right now.

01:01:31.900 It's been unbelievable doing the shows, seeing all of you.

01:01:34.680 It's been absolutely huge.

01:01:35.860 Like, really, we go home every night.

01:01:37.500 We're like, we can't believe we're so, you come out and look around.

01:01:40.140 Don't you feel the sweetest people?

01:01:41.680 This is like such a beautiful crowd.

01:01:43.300 I like to ask.

01:01:44.500 I like to ask.

01:01:45.620 Front of house.

01:01:46.540 I go.

01:01:47.080 How are they?

01:01:47.460 Were they?

01:01:48.040 They go.

01:01:48.440 They're nice people?

01:01:49.080 You're a people.

01:01:49.640 They go, they're unbelievable.

01:01:50.520 They go, these fans. 1.00

01:01:51.440 bastards come in here night after night 1.00

01:01:54.220 not these people 1.00

01:01:55.020 I've heard the word kind used

01:01:58.200 they go you're in the line

01:02:00.040 you look around you go these are good people

01:02:02.100 and by the way we'll get to a lot of these

01:02:04.440 on the podcast

01:02:05.120 that's a really good question 1.00

01:02:06.560 but last night Jacqueline was like 1.00

01:02:09.780 let's just say everything goes to shit 1.00

01:02:11.100 we're fucked we're fucked pook only for the rest of our life 1.00

01:02:14.300 yeah we have pook 1.00

01:02:15.140 I got pook holiday alone

01:02:16.740 imagine this every year

01:02:19.540 around the holidays you go

01:02:20.820 it's time for poop right and then we come back year after year you see the same people whatever

01:02:25.520 happened oh they passed away right it's like yeah right and then you build and then and by the way

01:02:31.340 hello like and some will die i mean this is it's weird right no it's crazy but that's how we remember

01:02:37.280 i mean that's how we taste the sweet nectar of life to taste also the bitterness of the rind

01:02:43.220 that falls to the earth as they say in six feet under why do people have to die to make life

01:02:46.960 important you know it's true yeah as they say if anyone hasn't uh watched six feet under

01:02:52.620 i'm actually i'm actually thinking about winter rewatch i think it's a winter rewatch yeah

01:02:59.660 when's the last time you watched it me fishing for the mic stand yeah seven years ago i mean

01:03:04.820 yeah you're overdue honey i know but i think when there's too little time between like a first and

01:03:11.220 a second or a second and third you actually have to go much longer the christmas season you have

01:03:14.580 to go plow plow you have to go by the way you have to do i don't know how to tell you this 0.89

01:03:19.120 first three episodes in one night it's three hours get a fucking room okay because you think 0.89

01:03:25.200 the the the sort of gimmicks of of that have since become utilized in television okay by other shows 0.95

01:03:31.700 some i'll say it's six feet under i go hey the first episode might feel a little hate to use

01:03:36.260 this word dated to you okay yeah i've had people because the rest of tv the rest of tv i don't see

01:03:42.000 the sweat on the skin

01:03:43.200 the way I do on my TV set

01:03:44.480 when I do soccer or whatever, okay?

01:03:46.540 Because it is a square, right?

01:03:47.900 What?

01:03:48.600 It is a square.

01:03:50.400 You remember it in 1609.

01:03:53.340 It was a square?

01:03:54.160 Pretty sure it was a square.

01:03:55.540 Wait, what?

01:03:56.080 Six Feet Under is,

01:03:56.980 you watched it in a square.

01:03:59.340 Oh, 4-3.

01:04:00.060 Thank you, I knew that.

01:04:01.640 And you know,

01:04:02.620 when I say square,

01:04:03.720 I of course mean

01:04:04.360 tending towards squaredom.

01:04:06.220 Yeah.

01:04:06.660 Which 4-3 is, right?

01:04:08.200 It's just right next to 3-3.

01:04:09.720 Push through,

01:04:10.340 I'm just saying,

01:04:11.020 I watched the whole season

01:04:12.520 with someone and like

01:04:14.460 I watched the premiere the night it came out

01:04:16.760 so I couldn't watch three. I watched it every night.

01:04:18.700 I was late to my friend's house

01:04:20.520 because something came on

01:04:22.040 and I just, what? I sit down

01:04:24.340 I didn't move. No, it's amazing.

01:04:26.820 I didn't fucking move. No, you don't move. 0.99

01:04:29.260 And then it held my family

01:04:30.700 together for years.

01:04:32.760 Yeah, it will, if anyone here

01:04:34.580 is alive, watch it.

01:04:36.580 Okay.

01:04:37.880 Last night I had to bring home food to the hotel

01:04:40.720 this was incredible by the way last night we had two shows we it was like 12 30 a.m we're pulling

01:04:46.560 up to the hotel and jacqueline's like i want brisket and you bravely fucking bravely and

01:04:51.100 heroically went into cats is alone and i remember i i hovered at the door i feel like i should go in 0.92

01:04:54.940 with you it was so cool it was so cool the door opened throngs of like hammered people a nightmare

01:05:01.040 and you just looked over your shoulder and you said i'd get out of here if i were you 0.57

01:05:04.100 and you and you just turned on your heel and went in and i was like and then remember i texted you

01:05:08.980 I went, I love you, our relationship is so freeing

01:05:11.080 because I didn't want to go in there, right?

01:05:13.620 I had one, I was like, I had one hand

01:05:15.320 and I like hearted it, you know, and kept it moving

01:05:17.040 but like, because I was in line. Do you even remember saying that?

01:05:18.980 God, imagine you're still in the street, you're so tired

01:05:21.080 I mean, it's like, you're about to get back

01:05:22.960 to your room, I mean, and then

01:05:24.340 to accompany a friend to wait for

01:05:27.020 her food, I mean

01:05:28.000 Something in me, I felt like I needed to protect you

01:05:31.240 or be there for you. No, there was more

01:05:32.860 thrill for me, and to me it's like getting

01:05:34.840 one's own food, you know, like

01:05:36.240 like post like 1am or something like it's kind of like it's not it's dirty work

01:05:42.280 and it's got to be done alone i had cold suen leftovers i tried to like make you feel good

01:05:49.500 about it suen is a macrobiotic restaurant um there used to be three band three branches they've

01:05:55.760 reduced to one and one of our first meals actually together one of our first meals you can imagine

01:06:01.620 Imagine the cackling.

01:06:03.180 Screaming.

01:06:03.800 Imagine.

01:06:04.620 Surrounded by deeply malnourished. 1.00

01:06:07.620 It was like, you know, frail yogis.

01:06:09.460 If you want to see a group of unhealthy people, 0.96

01:06:12.160 go to the healthiest restaurant.

01:06:13.880 Yeah.

01:06:14.580 You can find, and you'll see the fetishization of death.

01:06:18.120 I once saw, by the way, speaking of twins,

01:06:21.060 speaking of twins,

01:06:22.420 I once saw two identical, severely emaciated twins,

01:06:26.900 may they find peace, 0.63

01:06:29.180 physically arguing over squash no you mean um were they pulling at the squash like

01:06:37.840 no you have it don't you have it it's actually one of the darkest things i've ever in my life

01:06:42.980 witnessed it's one of those things i turn to like if i have to pee in public and it's like think of 0.98

01:06:46.800 the most fucked up shit yeah imaginable i like roll the tape on that and i'm able to dissociate 0.98

01:06:51.500 yeah it's like that's good no what they were doing is they were making sure that each person 1.00

01:06:56.100 had the equal there it was like no one can eat more than the other one you know and so they were

01:07:00.380 kind of looking at the squash they were like they were like measuring the squash like

01:07:04.960 remember the other night we were eating and i was like wait how many of the like crudo have you had

01:07:11.140 and you were like i don't know well jacqueline does you don't know jacqueline does unbelievable

01:07:15.120 because we eat out together jacqueline in a way that i really admire and from listening to the

01:07:19.080 podcast you'll know she doesn't want to share and not always you gave me a sip of your whiskey sour

01:07:24.240 the other night in a very ceremony you were like you could tell i wanted to try it i saw that she

01:07:30.240 wanted to try it and i was willing to have her and i didn't utter it you saw that i wanted to try it

01:07:36.040 yeah because i know okay the other night i had a cocktail boundaries she knows like that to me

01:07:41.780 it's like if you're getting yourself this thing that you're so fucking excited about like a pina

01:07:46.820 colada okay well that's has anyone listened to that episode it's true one of the most beautiful

01:07:51.640 moments was Jacqueline who will you were given the opportunity we were you had this unbelievable

01:07:58.180 piña colada I wanted to try it and you said no you didn't it was no but it was actually no because

01:08:05.780 here's the thing I mean it's key and I cried when we talked about it I cried at the moment and I'm

01:08:10.060 about to cry again no no it's fine no it was beautiful because here's what here's what it was

01:08:13.440 so my life has been a series of me having the courage to order things other people don't and

01:08:20.100 then me suffering like you know it's it's you know and i just i go and i try to empower others

01:08:31.560 yeah no so so but we order the drinks i mean i ordered my move is to just therefore in i order

01:08:38.100 what i'm ordering and i order a second one to the table just in case they decide yeah that's my like

01:08:42.160 so i in this situation i ordered a margarita you ordered a pina colada and i see because a lot of

01:08:48.100 people try to strike this deal, okay, when they're struggling with their own indecision.

01:08:52.100 Well, I could just have a sip of yours, right?

01:08:53.920 Yeah.

01:08:54.500 No, okay?

01:08:55.420 Yeah.

01:08:56.140 So I, but I, you know, I have class, I have style, okay?

01:08:59.900 So I just go, but I also, I wouldn't, I just go, and you're not having a sip, okay?

01:09:05.260 Now, it actually was vulnerable for me, and that's why I go, and you're not having, I

01:09:07.980 didn't go, no, I didn't go.

01:09:08.860 No, no, you, you.

01:09:09.420 I actually felt real vulnerability.

01:09:11.780 I've been very much off sugar for some time, but I was deciding to have this, right?

01:09:15.220 So I was like, I'm getting a frozen pina colada, please.

01:09:18.960 And you're not having a sip.

01:09:21.220 You see, I was fawning a little bit.

01:09:23.040 You did a performance, yeah.

01:09:24.780 The unspeakable truth had to be embedded within the theater of it.

01:09:30.260 Which is okay.

01:09:31.360 Yeah, and actually the friendship.

01:09:33.000 Often all we have.

01:09:34.780 And then we laughed about it and then I cried.

01:09:38.500 I don't know, it was just like.

01:09:39.560 No, no, no, because then I said like, that's okay or something.

01:09:42.480 And then you started crying.

01:09:45.220 yeah and I was like no I'm proud of you like it's okay you can tell me like you can't have a sip

01:09:50.600 and I can like and I don't have to feel like a piece of shit I don't feel it was just well 0.78

01:09:56.720 because the other dynamic that we've discovered is that you're my bride okay there's something 0.97

01:10:00.600 that happens with us where you're my bride and I want you to be pleased yeah I want to see delight

01:10:07.340 spread across your face it's really hard for me to withhold um you know but I also have to be my

01:10:12.980 own bride yeah yeah yeah be your own bride yeah and so part of looking out for the family at time 0.98

01:10:20.880 is looking out for the individual you know what i mean yeah yeah you called me a bitch upstairs in 0.76

01:10:26.120 a way that was really fun though just now remember it was wonderful yeah it was a first

01:10:29.980 what was it well it was literally not i mean to me the fun of it was you there was you weren't

01:10:37.660 I go, did you see my eyeliner?

01:10:40.320 No, I go, is there any way you could have put my eyeliner back in your eyebrow liner?

01:10:46.160 Clearly, I'm not wearing my eyeliner.

01:10:48.680 Is there any way you could have seen it, thought it was yours, and put it back in your purse?

01:10:52.420 And I was kind of absent-minded like this on my phone.

01:10:55.700 I said, no, it's not possible or something.

01:10:58.120 And I go, she was so sure.

01:11:00.340 And I believed her. 1.00

01:11:00.940 Okay, but I just go, bitch. 0.99

01:11:03.300 Yeah, and it was really fun. 0.98

01:11:04.520 And I really delighted in it, again, because as an only,

01:11:07.720 that's kind of, you know, sort of like an intimacy and a closeness 1.00

01:11:11.860 that I don't have people being like, fuck you, bitch. 1.00

01:11:15.260 You know what I mean? 1.00

01:11:16.280 And there's something about that that I think puts hair on your chest.

01:11:19.120 You know, there's something about someone pushing you 1.00

01:11:21.320 or being like, I fucking hate you. 0.98

01:11:23.140 Like, I've never had someone that, you know, you grow up 1.00

01:11:25.020 and no one's going, I fucking hate you, you fucking ugly bitch. 1.00

01:11:28.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

01:11:28.600 Like, there's something about it's like a sibling thing.

01:11:30.960 Totally, yeah.

01:11:31.360 But then, you know, that night you're eating spaghetti

01:11:33.240 in front of the TV together.

01:11:34.300 you know I don't so in that way confrontation hasn't been a part of my life in a way that I 0.97

01:11:38.680 think is really useful so you being like bitch and knowing that you love me I was like this is cool 0.95

01:11:44.860 yeah you you do something for me somehow that relates to that I think because I have some kind 0.97

01:11:50.540 of like uh good girl syndrome like baked okay that somehow I'm able with you to um be like be

01:12:01.560 in a bad mood kind of be shitty yeah and I'm like shocked that you still love me at the end I'm

01:12:06.360 shocked every time yeah it's very powerful yeah like like I'm like I'm like like I really

01:12:12.440 like let it rip with you kind of yeah like it's kind of like I'm kind of like like you know like

01:12:21.140 off air like I don't know like I'm just like yeah yeah and you're kind of like okay like and

01:12:28.820 like you will like react like like there's a bickering there's a safe bickering yeah yeah

01:12:34.700 that is very luxurious totally no because sometimes it'll unfold on text and it's kind

01:12:40.980 of it's like the short thing and they'll be like love you

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01:13:31.320 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield,

01:13:33.680 the host of The Girlfriends.

01:13:35.280 I'm back with more one-off interviews 0.98

01:13:37.540 with some truly kick-ass women 0.98

01:13:39.840 on The Girlfriends Spotlight.

01:13:42.740 I'm going to climb this.

01:13:45.100 Is badness hereditary?

01:13:47.040 Let's see how we can stop killing.

01:13:49.880 I'm not too intimidated by her.

01:13:51.320 What are you talking about? 1.00

01:13:55.560 Listen to the Girlfriend Spotlight on the iHeartRadio app, 1.00

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01:14:10.420 Early in his career, he shocked his mom more than once,

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01:14:38.780 Welcome to the Boys and Girls Podcast

01:14:40.580 Arranged marriage is basically a reality show

01:14:43.660 And you're auditioning for your soulmate

01:14:45.720 And who's judging?

01:14:47.600 Only your entire family

01:14:48.880 I sacrificed myself to this ancient tradition

01:14:51.680 Hoping to find love the right way

01:14:53.900 And instead, I found chaos, comedy, and a lot of cringe.

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