Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - May 05, 2026


Pronouncing the Interior

Topics
neck pain and migraines energy depletion
Nightstand Revolution Eat the Apple that Falls

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00:00:00.780 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.
00:00:02.340 I'm Jacqueline Novak.
00:00:03.440 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.
00:00:08.160 Two untamable intellects.
00:00:09.940 This is our hobby. 0.97
00:00:10.780 This is our hell.
00:00:11.640 This is our naked desire for free products.
00:00:13.940 This is POOG.
00:00:15.380 Today's topic, loosely speaking, energy units, willingness to sing, pediatrician.
00:00:24.900 Greetings.
00:00:26.180 It does feel like coming home to come here after.
00:00:28.960 What's wrong?
00:00:30.000 You tasted something bad?
00:00:35.860 Sorry.
00:00:36.800 Ugh.
00:00:37.320 Ice, my mediocre matcha I made.
00:00:39.160 No fault to the matcha.
00:00:40.160 All the scents in the fridge.
00:00:41.620 It got ruined with a freezer cube.
00:00:43.720 The freezer cube that absorbs the flavors in the freezer. 0.99
00:00:46.500 I mean, it's just fucking disgusting. 0.99
00:00:48.240 Yeah. 1.00
00:00:48.720 It's like there's a light taste of just hell.
00:00:51.860 I'm fiddling in my bag.
00:00:54.740 Olive and June French manicure.
00:00:57.280 Short.
00:00:57.820 I remember that.
00:00:58.480 Do you want to do a product corner?
00:01:00.000 at the end yeah I sure do I'm just oh god I'm like I'm reaching for like like something I bit
00:01:06.940 the inside of my lip yesterday and it hurts the worst it hurts I do that so chronically yeah I
00:01:13.500 wonder if it's an ADD thing because I do this at the chronic level I think it is I really do and
00:01:18.360 by the way it ruins days you lose days and then you keep re-biting it it's horrible oh um I have
00:01:26.280 two things so one thing that's funny well Jacqueline and I had dinner last night we had a
00:01:29.220 double date glorious at osteria angelini osteria difference between trotteria and austria still
00:01:36.640 has yet to be uncovered by anthropologists is more casual according to paolo at ora's restaurant
00:01:43.340 okay yeah he's like this is not osteria you know oh he's like this is not osteria stop 0.97
00:01:48.900 i panicked because i've been saying i've been saying bolognese like a fucking gringo cracker 0.98
00:01:54.020 ass and then oh my god i always forget it's like bolognese yeah well you were upset because our 0.99
00:02:00.660 waiter was clearly true true italian well that's why i love it there the waiters are fucking italian 0.99
00:02:04.960 yeah they're wonderful it's great i mean the simplicity of the artichokes we had braised 0.96
00:02:10.160 and olive oil and you know i also like that place they're open for breakfast lunch and dinner
00:02:13.820 and appreciate that they do a great eggs in purgatory that i've enjoyed um yeah really great
00:02:22.000 italian i loved our waiter for a door if you can imagine in um in one of rich roll's books like
00:02:28.720 plant powered whatever i got it because i passed through that studio and was generously gifted a
00:02:34.100 book you know and um yeah full color sort of recipe books are so interesting aren't they
00:02:40.040 oh yeah you know these big heavy cookbooks it's like i like when sometimes then they get really 0.93
00:02:47.700 popular and then they have to do a spiral bound version because like people need that shit to 0.89
00:02:52.600 really like flip open and stay open they need to stay open think about that the spine is not 0.91
00:02:58.180 cracked on a recipe think about a hardcover recipe book and you open it up big one yeah
00:03:02.900 and the recipe's curving inwards towards where the spines got it by the balls right because it's
00:03:07.640 been used so much no no i'm saying when it's new it's probably of course no no all cookbooks
00:03:12.680 really should be spiral. It's just that it's too grotesque. Yeah, I think it's grotesque.
00:03:17.660 No, it is. You got me almost scared about my extreme massaging of the neck the other day
00:03:24.980 because I was like- You got to be careful. You were texting about fear that you'd gone
00:03:27.460 too hard with the Hizu. Well, I did go too hard with the Hizu folks. I have had a horrible 1.00
00:03:32.160 breakthrough migraine. Hell, fucking hell on earth, waiting for my new injections to arrive. 0.99
00:03:36.880 and i had a migraine that lasted like three days on and off and then and i was digging the high 0.99
00:03:44.180 zoo digging digging for mercy 6 a.m on the couch going so hard it hurt but i didn't care it's like 0.99
00:03:49.640 because you just want to take an ice pick to your own fucking skull and then it rubbed raw 0.99
00:03:53.860 some skin off which i was gonna tell you is comforting i was gonna tell you like you should 0.99
00:03:58.380 be comforted it rubbed the skin off it's like means like you know like the intensity happened
00:04:02.620 on the surface no that's not what that means if it grabbed it the skin wouldn't move so hard
00:04:07.920 no i mean to comfort you when you were like worried the neck and this is what my neurologist 0.99
00:04:12.080 always warned me about he goes nerves in the neck are so fucking delicate you do don't want to fuck 0.98
00:04:15.840 around hence that no chiropractor should ever touch your neck he i remember he said something 0.99
00:04:20.580 he goes i had a patient you know a little rough housing a little too hard with a toddler no and
00:04:25.020 like had a stroke or something like you got to be careful with the neck you cannot be just going in
00:04:29.600 there and yet all the pains that i have i yearn to and i get in there watch i don't know i don't
00:04:36.000 know if i can watch out i had genuine i had concern and i was again talking i was like
00:04:40.740 and you know my my loving partner being do you want to go to the er right now i'll go with you
00:04:46.000 and i go no no no no i mean i mean i think the thing is i think if you if you do that kind of 0.83
00:04:51.380 damage i think it's pretty quick it's not though jack are you joking fucking haunted people have 0.99
00:04:56.880 strokes for days they're actively having a stroke for days yeah it's a fucking living fucking 0.98
00:05:01.740 nightmare and that being said if you experience sudden shocking symptoms of stroke i was looking 0.99
00:05:07.320 up the symptoms so well here's what's really hard when you're like you were just going i just went
00:05:10.680 so hard a symptom of stroke is a headache a symptom of stroke well yeah there you go that's 0.66
00:05:15.320 that's an issue and i did have a friend a very healthy fucking friend who did have a stroke and 0.93
00:05:20.100 he's okay but he had a fucking headache and he went he literally it was so bad he went to the 0.96
00:05:24.660 doctor. They gave him, they didn't give him what he needed, which is an MRI. An MRI would have 0.98
00:05:28.220 shown that the stroke was happening. And he was having a stroke for fucking days. 1.00
00:05:31.940 How do I finally get the inside of my brain looked at folks? Because at this point, okay, 0.99
00:05:36.660 I'd like neck up because at this point between the spinal, you know, neck, okay, pains and me
00:05:43.920 being convinced that, you know, I wake up with a headache every morning that stimulate, that's
00:05:49.140 coming straight out of that area between that and a lifelong, you know, mental issues, right?
00:05:57.840 Yeah. Um, I had something I wanted to tell you that I said, I'm going to save it for Pook.
00:06:03.860 Oh yeah. Yesterday. Well, two things happened to me yesterday. One is
00:06:07.140 shout out to here locally, uh, Silver Lake workout I've been doing and I accidentally,
00:06:13.760 so I've really been liking it. It's like Pilates bar. I like it. It's not too crazy. It doesn't
00:06:18.400 deplete me the point is i yesterday there was a different class and it was like oh this is like
00:06:25.320 aerobic like dance forward and i go i don't know and i go i'm just gonna go i get there instantly
00:06:32.260 i go oh fuck yeah and it's literally okay we're gonna learn a couple dances today and four five 0.63
00:06:37.540 six seven and hand two four two and no one's watching just move and and it was full choreo 1.00
00:06:43.080 And I fucking hate, capital H, fucking hate. 0.99
00:06:46.920 And I've had to, for work, learn choreo a few times. 0.99
00:06:50.020 And I really, it gets really.
00:06:51.700 Do you hate choreo even in life? 0.99
00:06:53.260 I do not fucking like it. 0.98
00:06:55.280 Remember when I choreoed for us and I choreoed way too much? 0.99
00:06:57.420 Remember how shut down I was?
00:06:59.100 Yeah.
00:06:59.320 And I kind of got it.
00:06:59.980 But you're obviously a very good dancer.
00:07:01.280 Incredible dancer.
00:07:01.780 Thank you.
00:07:02.440 You have it all.
00:07:03.300 You just, I think it's like math or something.
00:07:05.440 You decide.
00:07:05.900 No, it is.
00:07:06.240 It is.
00:07:06.440 No, no, no.
00:07:07.040 I get very like.
00:07:08.200 And so, and it starts happening.
00:07:10.180 And the workout to me.
00:07:11.760 And here's what was really sweet.
00:07:12.880 and this is what I was focusing on people were being really cute in the class like people were
00:07:16.480 like smiling and they were and I was like good for them like it's Sunday it's 9 30 you know we're in
00:07:21.640 here like that's cute but I hate it and I was thinking I go I'm gonna leave and I go by the
00:07:29.560 way damn straight I'm gonna leave I don't have to stay here so I kept timing I go just leave now I
00:07:34.620 go it's not a good moment I'll leave during the choreo when it's the most active and I go no the 0.78
00:07:39.440 instructor her feelings are going to be hurt i'm leaving i don't like her class i stayed is the
00:07:43.620 point but i was the whole time i'm surprised with your usual lying you know what i'm saying
00:07:48.420 that you didn't know because i was thinking i go grab a phone you know and i look at it i go
00:07:52.760 well i was talking to myself i go for all they know i'm not feeling well that's what i could
00:07:56.840 be in the class and suddenly go i'm nauseous i have a headache i'm surprised you didn't do
00:08:00.240 illnesses power move out well i don't fake illness i never say i'm sick when i'm not
00:08:04.860 that's a true superstition you know like um that's why i take shame-free naps i don't want
00:08:10.860 to have to manifest hideous depression to earn a nap so good no you know oh god the freezer cube 0.83
00:08:18.020 no more okay it's like edamame matcha i'm gonna fucking barf okay anyway but point is i didn't 0.77
00:08:24.600 leave and i also it wasn't a clean door it's like curtains so i didn't it couldn't just open the 0.90
00:08:28.900 door i was looking managing folds in the curtain i'm gonna try to leave them i get lost in the
00:08:33.160 curtain that's going to create more of it i'm not able to find where it naturally parts you're
00:08:37.240 like how do i get out from the curtain to space yeah just like it's not a door it's a curtain
00:08:41.320 and i and i just i stayed and it was fat and what actually the thing that really annoyed me the most
00:08:45.060 is how much it wasn't a workout i go even if i'm doing the dance it's like this is like
00:08:48.940 my 82 my almost 82 year old mother would be a workout for her and i'm not saying it like i'm
00:08:55.180 somehow when you're learning the choreo it's slower but then if the last half hour of the
00:08:58.820 class is you doing hitting the moves over and over again but but listen we're hitting the move it
00:09:02.660 just trust me like heart rate a little bit elevated but this was not and i go guys no this is not well
00:09:09.060 if you're gonna dance you better be getting the heart rate up right that's what you're doing
00:09:11.800 exactly well i thought it was gonna be more just like free like just classic aerobics like
00:09:15.480 and because that would get your heart rate up real fast follow along dancing yeah not literally
00:09:20.800 my my lovely lady bums like doing like black-eyed peas choreo and everyone's being really sweet so
00:09:28.640 i'm so god bless everyone but the point is having fun people were having fun which lifted me up 0.63
00:09:33.580 there was one other girl and she got there and my heart broke for her because i saw that she had the
00:09:37.880 mat and she had her little hand weights she thought it was a regular class and i'm like oh she's in 0.99
00:09:43.120 for a rude fucking awakening and i saw her kind of going wait what and then and then when it started 0.90
00:09:48.060 and she was her and i were so half-assed doing the choreo we're like no like and i was like i 0.98
00:09:53.780 almost want my god i know because it was just like no no you hate it because you find it
00:10:00.300 embarrassing no no embarrassment i just i don't i you have trouble picking up the choreo so it's
00:10:07.020 not trouble yeah i don't it's really hard to describe i just really shut down around it i 0.97
00:10:11.600 think it is like feels like school feels like math yeah i'm just like yeah i want to fucking
00:10:15.980 do this and i love dancing but it's like i don't want to do that anyway anyway anyway anyway so the 0.79
00:10:20.760 funnier thing that happened to me yesterday so jacqueline so jacqueline and eavesdroppers i don't
00:10:26.440 know when this happened but a while ago i started following this guy on instagram i think he i saw
00:10:31.340 him giving like medical advice something cute um gay guy his name's dr max shout out dr max he's
00:10:38.500 a pediatrician okay and as we all know i don't have children okay so i've been following this
00:10:42.500 pediatrician now for a couple years and he has like a beautiful why i mean you know you he's
00:10:49.640 pediatrician just just you're like he knows the human body who cares that i'm not a kid
00:10:54.360 i don't know why i slowly pave the way to him being my pediatrician yeah yes so so so here's
00:11:01.240 what it is so i'm going well if i have kids you're scouting you're scouting now actively so i go
00:11:05.840 and i've locked in that he's a pediatrician and so i've been following him he has and him and his
00:11:11.500 husband gorgeous cute baby daughter they live in this insane house so sweet they have a big bunny
00:11:16.720 they have rat they have you know lambs they're feeding the lambs milk it's like very idyllic
00:11:22.980 and sweet and he i really like his vibe i just i like it and i was like and i've been very like 0.52
00:11:27.460 that's my pediatrician and like it's really great for me to see like gay parents or whatever okay
00:11:31.980 that's okay put that aside but i'm literally showing naomi i'm like look dr max's baby
00:11:35.700 with like i'm i'm very like locked in and it's not like he has an overwhelming following like
00:11:39.380 you know he's relatively niche he's local LA okay I am at none other than Ojai El Roblar my
00:11:47.100 favorite hotel and I'm there and I look in I'm sitting outside I look in who do I see
00:11:52.300 at the complimentary breakfast Dr. Max is standing there and I go no no no and by the way I'm a
00:11:58.420 powerful manifester and this is the this is the proof of it I look out there's the baby um but
00:12:03.540 the husband I believe is named Jay I see them I go oh my god it's a beautiful family I without
00:12:08.380 even hesitating rise from my chair go in it's like 9 a.m i go oh my god i said i'm so sorry
00:12:13.680 i'm just i'm a fan i follow you and he recognized me from he was like oh he's like i know you or
00:12:19.340 something he's so warm great i give him my life story in like three minutes i'm like i'm like i'm
00:12:25.380 like yeah i'm like i froze my eggs last year like i don't know wow you gave me at 42 i gave him
00:12:30.020 everything i was always a fan but you know not anymore you know or whatever i gave him my whole 0.71
00:12:34.620 fucking life of course you gave him that you had fabulous i'm like i'm like just love the stuff 0.79
00:12:38.500 love you know i was like i need i was being so manic i just had coffee and i was so excited to 0.98
00:12:43.760 see him something oh hi too makes me manic because i get so happy i'm a and i was like
00:12:47.420 i'm powerful i'm manifesting you i'm manifesting you i don't know uh-oh sperm donor careful careful
00:12:52.000 i'm looking i i like went right and a tear my eyes were just naturally tearing because of like
00:12:57.220 the environment and allergies a tear i go i froze my eggs last year a tear rolls down my cheek i go
00:13:01.560 i'm not crying keep going with the monologue he really received me in a beautiful elegant way i
00:13:06.160 really he just has a i'm sorry there was a light about him he's really fab so then we're chatting
00:13:10.940 we're chatting he's being so cute he's like it's actually you know our daughter's first birthday
00:13:14.860 that's why we're here i'm like well now i'm really crying you know it was the whole thing
00:13:18.140 so then he's like he's like well we're having um and because i was there i was doing a fundraiser
00:13:23.880 show for churla coalition for humane immigrant rights and that's still happening guys in oh hi
00:13:28.060 and they're going to be ongoing. And he goes, oh, I do, you know, a benefit. Whatever. We're
00:13:31.780 talking because we're having an event at the house on Sunday. Why don't you come by? And I go,
00:13:36.260 ding, ding, ding. All lights are green. You're a pediatrician. And so I go, I'm like, totally.
00:13:43.540 So then on DM, he gives me the address. I happen to be attending a wedding shower that happens to
00:13:48.760 be exactly two blocks away. By the way, you're really planning on having kids. I think this is
00:13:51.280 the most I've ever heard this on this podcast. You know, you love to say like twins by Christmas
00:13:55.840 and all these kind of things about me jackfruit in the morning with the kids or whatever but the
00:14:00.420 point is like i think this is actually like i don't know if i were a eavesdropper i'd be like 0.98
00:14:03.680 damn there's gonna be kids that were running around in the back of this fucking podcast pretty soon 0.77
00:14:07.800 not pretty soon i don't know it's just it's just interesting it's like i've never heard more 0.99
00:14:11.320 certainty no i know i know i know the pediatrician really i know who knows who knows but i'm getting
00:14:20.040 downloads from the spirit world um so well now that you're reading carolyn mace it's gonna
00:14:25.720 to, it's only going to kick up. I know. And I'm doing, and we're going to talk about it. I'm
00:14:30.080 doing, um, these other guided meditations we're gonna talk about, but listen, so I'm having me
00:14:35.520 going to a baby shower or wedding shower, a couple of blocks away. I go, the wedding shower ends at
00:14:40.600 three. His event starts at three. I go, well, if that's not Gaia, what is? So I'm at the wedding
00:14:45.260 shower and then I'm like, okay, I think I'm going to go, but I feel shy. Cause I'm like, this is
00:14:49.240 really kind of like I don't have children and it's a pediatrician like but I was like well no I'm
00:14:56.980 just gonna stop by but I forgot what kind of event is it it's not his birthday I mean I was a little
00:15:01.960 bit unclear I was a little bit unclear so what it is is it's like apparently it's like a I guess
00:15:07.840 like anyone could have gone that follows him it's like a pediatrician it's him and Molly Baz and it
00:15:13.240 was like okay i'll tell you exactly what it said well it's a fundraiser for lucha um community
00:15:18.880 center and then it says snacks drinks and honest conversation on parenting health and everything
00:15:22.900 in between right so you go health and in between but by the way but the poster is him with his 0.97
00:15:29.140 baby molly baths with her baby so i'm like this is he's a fucking pediatrician okay it's centered 0.82
00:15:32.880 around parenting and babies so i was like i'm just gonna float by also i was like i want to see the 0.96
00:15:38.680 house because it's gorgeous so i go beautiful he lives in and this is me not revealing anything
00:15:43.680 he talks about this is such a different place well this is beyond unusual because guess what
00:15:48.140 he lives in and again this isn't me revealing inappropriate information i've heard him say this
00:15:51.320 his house is literally where shirley temple lived when she was at the peak of her career it's a
00:15:55.580 beautiful spanish like anyway point is i go in it is babies obviously everyone no one is standing
00:16:02.420 there without a baby i walk in by the way like black boots up to my knees like witches of east 0.95
00:16:07.260 wick fucking in there right i'm like hi and there was a check-in person that was like hi and i was 0.96
00:16:12.760 like oh i'm just stopping by um so i go in god bless dr max so sweet he takes me over to a lamb 0.98
00:16:20.460 i feed a lamb with a baby bottle no yeah which was incredible i see the giant bunny he has this
00:16:25.620 huge giant bunny it's unbelievable bouncing around i mean it really is like an idyllic like this is
00:16:29.320 if you have a kid this is where you want to be okay there's kids crawling everywhere i see molly
00:16:33.700 about it's like oh hi i'm a freak i'm a freak i'm childless i'm here right right i start and then
00:16:37.640 and then all of a sudden i actually start no one i the point is i left very quickly i was there for
00:16:42.840 eight minutes because there was a talk that was about to start i go i'm not staying for the talk
00:16:46.660 and me sitting there with pen and paper i have a question about nursing you know it's like so
00:16:50.820 insane so i leave and then i immediately i'm like flooded with this feeling of like oh because i
00:16:56.120 said to him and to her i was like i was i was at an event just two blocks away i was at a shower
00:16:59.820 two blocks away like it's not like i crossed town for it that would be a step too far you mean you
00:17:05.580 got embarrassed yeah well absolutely because then afterwards i go oh my god i don't see myself this
00:17:11.000 way but there's a way where it looks like could there anything be sadder than me there going well
00:17:17.240 i i think i want they're childless at the baby event like researching a pediatrician before i'm
00:17:23.840 even trying to conceive like it's insane think that that's what you were doing well except for
00:17:29.000 the fact that i couldn't stop saying it to dr max and to molly bass and i go i go well i froze my
00:17:33.560 eggs and so like her husband when if you had just been like i'm here i'm a friend or something or
00:17:37.980 like you didn't have to contextualize i didn't have to say anything but instead i had to go i
00:17:43.420 had to go i'm a freak oh i don't have kids what am i doing here did you say which is the beast
00:17:47.740 we can point your boots did that happen no no i didn't point okay that's just for us okay that
00:17:52.720 was just for you but i was like good but i was like oh my god and then as i was leaving i was
00:17:57.040 like wait like like pointy boots like sorry pointy boots at the children's event i might
00:18:03.700 watch the kids it's a hazard and right in the eye fashion toe but i was describing it to a friend
00:18:09.560 to a dear friend she was like only you would be too shy to leave the pilates class but not too
00:18:14.380 shy to go to the pediatrician q a without a child just because i've got my eyes set on him well i
00:18:22.000 think it speaks to some kind of vulnerability. What do you mean? You know, there was something,
00:18:29.320 it was serious for you. Yeah, I think so. I think that, um, yeah, I don't know. But I know,
00:18:35.320 but to me, it's like, I've seen you leave, of course, the ghost tour, you know, that you made
00:18:39.100 me go to the daytime one. Okay. It made me go, I went on a date, never again, went on a date,
00:18:43.760 changed to the daytime one. So sorry. I'm so sorry. I really can't believe it. I'm impressed
00:18:48.200 by the theater of the tour she's like she's like i need a grain bowl or something she's like i need
00:18:53.900 protein i was hungry i just can't win them it's really crazy you know whatever it doesn't matter
00:19:02.800 point is point is almost 10 years ago you like us all we all have an interesting mix of
00:19:10.380 contradictions where you try to say something about someone but oh there's the example of the
00:19:14.160 very opposite in them you know it's really true it's really true you know scared to go to the pool
00:19:22.040 alone classic jacqueline jacqueline was giving me strength to go to the pool alone because
00:19:27.100 and i still have that you're an actor you like i know you know how to embody i mean maybe you
00:19:33.540 just didn't have a visual in your head of like like you didn't have an archetype of like a woman
00:19:37.980 at a hotel who's like going to have a dip cool down get it get out like you needed a little
00:19:42.920 narrative like maybe yeah I I actually the day was like I need to go because you know what I've
00:19:49.180 never done I mean Jacqueline you and I for work we travel alone all the time right but never
00:19:54.220 because like for pleasure like it's too like something about that really is like do you dream
00:20:00.580 of like I'm going to Spain for a week alone okay remember Paris yeah well there was gonna be one
00:20:08.820 night that was gonna be my night and then i realized get into it in full now and i think
00:20:13.000 we did in the past but i'm just saying i think it's funny because it's like i quite certainly
00:20:16.780 do because it was like i studied i had this idea that i was gonna go and i was doing all this work
00:20:21.320 and i was away from chris like i was on this solo journey i go to london before my show and then it
00:20:26.220 was like i have family there it was like you know i was so not alone there yeah whatever and i was
00:20:31.080 really locked in on this like journeying to paris alone and spending a night or two and i was like
00:20:35.980 dancing is back yeah but anyway so yes i don't even consider i'm trying to think if there's
00:20:45.020 anything that i'm uncomfortable going to alone let me think about that or like even it's a thought
00:20:48.860 like really i'm gonna be alone there no but i can be alone here's what it is you can i can i can go
00:20:54.840 to a party alone i can go to an event alone i can go like it's more what is it well because you're
00:21:01.360 not alone once you get to the party right exactly in other words you're comfortable socializing
00:21:05.960 the performance takes over yeah right yeah but yeah restaurant alone is is really heavenly
00:21:12.820 it's heavenly I've done that a bit and it has so much dignity to me it's so it's it's so much
00:21:18.100 it really is down and it's not and if I'm reading a book it's not about trying to show off that I'm
00:21:22.680 not waiting for a man like there's a there's a self-containment that is it is essentially a brag
00:21:29.240 now totally like you can't pull off because your eyes are going to be darting around
00:21:32.720 darting around nervously right then like but to me it's like I feel I feel the most me in a way
00:21:40.340 when I'm alone in public space that I am it you know what it is I think it it being alone in
00:21:47.760 public space allows me to be experienced you know in my interior which I like I like I can occupy
00:21:53.480 myself and my own thoughts blah blah blah right I enjoy that sitting there thinking whatever whether
00:21:57.580 it's journal or just thinking. And I think the containment of being in public space
00:22:04.400 fills something in that actually pronounces my interior in a way that feels like healthier
00:22:11.360 or something. It's not expanding to fill the room when you're alone in a room. Right. So I feel
00:22:16.880 really like, like actualized. No, it's cool. Like I know exactly who I am when I'm sitting alone in
00:22:23.720 a restaurant. Sitting alone in a restaurant is one thing. That's fun. I just did that when I was
00:22:27.440 in New York and I was at a, I pulled up, I was sitting at Nine Orchard, which is, you know,
00:22:31.840 fantastic. And I think I'm going to be staying there again. And I pull up at Dimes Deli,
00:22:37.000 sitting there having pozole and I'm sitting there alone and I go, wow, look at me. No,
00:22:42.920 it is a flex. It is a flex. And then what happens, I end up having extraordinary, I end up getting
00:22:47.840 friendly chatting with the guy, you know, but who works there, who I've always, who I've never,
00:22:51.980 you know it's like things happen it's great um but the point is going to spain i have this thing
00:22:58.160 i need to go to spain alone i need to do the pilgrimage whatever it's called the walking
00:23:01.760 pilgrimage i go what am i gonna do i'm gonna live my whole life and not do a walking pilgrimage
00:23:07.580 alone like yeah well that seems horrendous but i fear being brutalized brutalized you know what i
00:23:15.680 I mean, it's scary.
00:23:17.360 Like, would you do a walking tour?
00:23:18.940 Would you do a pilgrimage in the mountains alone?
00:23:22.500 Oh, okay.
00:23:23.320 You're talking a true, you're like on a nature path.
00:23:26.040 Yeah, I'm not talking having a night alone at the burn and die.
00:23:29.380 Okay, I'm talking about.
00:23:30.200 No, no, but I am asking specifically what you're referring to.
00:23:32.840 Like, are you referring to something specific in Spain?
00:23:34.100 Yes, I'm referring to the, what's it called?
00:23:36.060 The pilgrimage.
00:23:37.260 Right, okay.
00:23:37.720 You're not just talking about.
00:23:38.140 I've only known a man to do it alone.
00:23:40.060 Right.
00:23:41.420 It's very famous.
00:23:42.420 yeah of course the camino de Santiago most famous pilgrimage in Spain a network of ancient routes
00:23:48.280 yeah four to five weeks start why aren't doing that one I think there's one that you can do in
00:23:55.780 like a week and then it's supposed to be unbelievable maybe you and I should do it
00:24:00.820 together Jacqueline no you do you do it you walk in there's little hostels along the way
00:24:04.820 that like it's like a thing and they take you in thing and it's a pilgrimage that sounds like
00:24:09.240 something yeah like a rape on the Santiago like I'm sure there's research there I'm sure there's
00:24:13.920 reddit threads I'm sure there's a subreddit about this specifically for women you're exactly right 0.50
00:24:19.540 so you can do do some research and it might be very it might be completely set up for this
00:24:23.780 maybe I have to do it maybe I have to do it Jacqueline before I have my daughter
00:24:29.100 careful sweetie you might get a son i know by the way i'm open to a son yeah in fact
00:24:44.240 i think it's because esther kovitsky came around on it no no i mean i'm sorry because
00:24:49.380 psychics have told me funny she was posting about being like um disgusted by the idea of
00:24:54.440 having a son the entire time i talked to her about this she was so sad about having a second
00:24:57.680 when she met him she loved him she's like well i had this happen i had this happen to me recently
00:25:02.620 with someone where they were like they were like oh son's the best and i you know i actually really
00:25:06.480 appreciate what she said because it was so fucking honest and real she goes it's great it's like the
00:25:10.120 boyfriend you never had it's like you know it's like it's really funny yeah i was like about like 0.54
00:25:15.500 a five-year-old like he's like a baby no like yeah like the baby's like the boyfriend you never had
00:25:21.020 yeah well that's interesting where it's like you're like oh finally a little man just for me
00:25:24.920 Like finally a man 0.97
00:25:26.220 Who can fucking step up 0.98
00:25:28.680 I mean that's what a lot of them 0.99
00:25:31.940 That's what a lot of them are doing with their sons
00:25:33.740 What?
00:25:34.920 They're healing
00:25:35.480 They're trying to recreate 0.99
00:25:36.720 Damn 1.00
00:25:38.200 A relationship with a man 1.00
00:25:39.240 That somehow can 0.97
00:25:40.360 Damn 0.93
00:25:40.780 You know 1.00
00:25:41.600 Fix
00:25:42.280 The broken ones
00:25:43.840 I don't know why I
00:25:45.140 Why I find that surprising
00:25:46.940 Cause like
00:25:48.380 Yeah I'm surprised
00:25:48.980 All direction of those things
00:25:51.160 Like I don't know why
00:25:51.840 Like
00:25:52.080 I don't know what that is
00:25:54.920 That's interesting.
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00:26:50.200 Oh, well, I know you go on your walks.
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00:28:01.520 Listen, Mother's Day is coming up.
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00:28:15.300 but instead what about giving them something something lasts all year by the way i'm not
00:28:21.360 kidding i want to give this to my mom well this is this is the thing kate this is a mom gift
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00:30:00.880 guess who's back on looking up rugs it's exhausting it's a sickness i mean it's a
00:30:11.280 just you know i look at it's just like when i was a child i stare at colors and i go
00:30:16.580 you know every color is nice of course no you're going a blue rug you're staring at you're
00:30:24.840 beautiful and i always have this thing where i go i'm gonna get sick of that color like is that's
00:30:29.400 Is that color going to start to annoy me? 0.99
00:30:31.160 Just get one.
00:30:32.240 Just get one.
00:30:32.940 Get one and lose.
00:30:33.420 And move forward because this is what, again, me with my red Nordic knots, I go, red with
00:30:38.660 a diamond.
00:30:40.320 You just get it.
00:30:41.780 You move through it.
00:30:42.320 And by the way, this is an announcement.
00:30:44.240 This is an update.
00:30:45.300 I got the nightstands for those who have been listening.
00:30:48.240 I got the nightstands.
00:30:49.280 I go, you know what? 1.00
00:30:50.120 Fuck it. 1.00
00:30:50.800 Because what am I going to do? 1.00
00:30:51.720 Spend the next five months.
00:30:53.180 So you got the matching nightstands. 1.00
00:30:54.220 Meanwhile, my shit is piled up next to my bed like a rat. 1.00
00:30:56.900 I'm a rat 1.00
00:30:57.720 looking for lotions 0.97
00:30:58.960 and digging every night
00:30:59.720 that sounds kind of cozy
00:31:00.440 and then what I did
00:31:01.140 which was unbelievable
00:31:02.200 and this I go
00:31:03.280 well now I want an award
00:31:04.660 I did it
00:31:06.060 I called Spectrum
00:31:06.920 I had them come
00:31:07.660 I had them move the wifi
00:31:08.620 to another room
00:31:09.760 it's no longer behind the bed
00:31:11.020 and now I have room
00:31:12.100 for the nightstand
00:31:12.700 that's great for you Kate
00:31:13.620 I'm really proud of you
00:31:15.080 thank you
00:31:15.180 I love you
00:31:15.980 because
00:31:16.960 it was annoying
00:31:19.620 it was bothering you
00:31:20.480 and you changed it
00:31:21.320 and you got it changed
00:31:23.220 I haven't finished my project
00:31:25.460 of drilling the back
00:31:26.420 my nightstands out so that I can have the plugs, you know, the charging station inside.
00:31:33.940 Oh, you know, it's really exciting that I got going. So, you know, my, my guy, okay. That,
00:31:38.180 you know, I fell off for, for a while. I was, I didn't take it with me abroad. I mean, not abroad,
00:31:42.140 on tour. Yes. For anyone who hasn't seen me in my V-lay, I will drop images in the newsletter,
00:31:47.700 but yeah, it has, um, penetrative light, uh, near infrared light that gets into the skull.
00:31:54.800 but anyway
00:31:56.420 I've been using it now that I'm back
00:31:58.360 and I've got it now attached to this
00:32:00.660 anchor battery pack okay
00:32:02.100 so I can freely roam the house
00:32:04.840 plugged in
00:32:05.720 I need to get a new remote battery
00:32:07.960 I sit out front and neighbors walk by
00:32:09.680 they glance
00:32:10.760 and I laugh at them
00:32:12.720 I go no I'm not ashamed
00:32:17.520 the extent to which
00:32:19.420 if I don't get serious about getting
00:32:21.240 my brain waves into a state
00:32:23.320 of coherence 0.99
00:32:24.800 yeah i don't get fucking serious about that shit now i know you've been meditating again 0.99
00:32:28.820 by the way for three days and i'm back into wondering well i say one day is an accomplishment 0.98
00:32:34.940 two days a miracle three well you're on your way to practice and by the way i still can today and
00:32:42.640 i will i'm and hags come with me 10 minutes a day i so i said five i did five i go five's actually
00:32:50.020 too fast sometimes. Like 10 is just enough. The 20 twice a day, what are we fucking? I mean,
00:32:59.240 it's just endless admiration to those who can. And I dream of that one day.
00:33:04.340 I think you have to, I think you, like the times where I briefly have been doing any sort of
00:33:10.200 practice, you know, hardcore, right? Like, like some like meditation or something like briefly,
00:33:17.180 I mean years ago but there's a reason you're doing it something has brought you right unless
00:33:22.860 you're you have a long long practice but like if you don't and you do it for any period it's like 0.66
00:33:27.400 I think there is like you know you read a book and you are fucking convinced that this is this
00:33:33.840 is you know it's like real at least for me it's like I read a book that tells me and I'm like
00:33:37.920 I have to I have to and that holds for a while and sometimes I have to be re-indoctrinated in
00:33:44.600 the why because it starts to just feel abstract so that's where i am right now again with scrolling
00:33:50.400 i deleted instagram this morning and i go on the lease doing seven days off but we're i don't feel
00:33:56.040 like i don't know your scrolling relationship i feel like you're not on well i i don't because 0.76
00:34:00.920 the thing is like you have to get on there and like you know like repost some shit you know 0.86
00:34:04.920 like fucking tour dates or or yeah poog or something or whatever it's like so you do have 0.97
00:34:09.820 to get on there that's why i almost think i think you're like extremism with uh and i've said this 0.99
00:34:14.500 before your extremism with the back and the fourth and the deleting and the whole thing
00:34:18.520 right it's kind of just like you're choosing almost with the deletion that you're gonna like
00:34:24.740 relapse harder that's hard and then delete again and that's how you do it you know what i mean it's
00:34:29.320 sort of like versus it stays on my phone and i've learned well i've done that i've gotten to that
00:34:35.220 point where it was on my phone right and i was just like no we're not doing it like someone
00:34:40.440 And like years and years ago, I remember hearing about this, like, who like quit cigarettes by like, they just like had a pack of cigarettes sitting on their coffee table.
00:34:47.960 That's cool.
00:34:48.440 That's kind of how I did it.
00:34:49.280 It's like it's there.
00:34:50.140 I could have it any day and I'm choosing not to.
00:34:52.900 That's what I did with smoking.
00:34:54.080 Again, I mean, I was much younger and I wasn't, but I mean, I smoked a pack every couple of days because I was cool.
00:35:01.500 Yeah.
00:35:01.760 When I was, you know, 18, 19, 20.
00:35:03.600 New York City.
00:35:04.060 21.
00:35:05.160 Yeah, it's funny.
00:35:05.780 like uh you know it probably shock a lot of people in a way to picture you like that this crowd
00:35:12.520 smoking was so fucking cool yeah i mean yeah it's a blast it's um like i feel happy for people when 0.53
00:35:19.120 they go i want to go smoke a cigarette i'm like fucking yeah going out there god but i haven't 0.96
00:35:25.980 missed it i haven't had a drag of a cigarette since i was 23 and similarly i just was like i'm 0.86
00:35:30.860 stopping and i just and i was like and if i want to smoke a cigarette i could smoke a cigarette
00:35:34.220 and that's what allowed me to truly never smoke a cigarette again yeah because i allowed it
00:35:39.280 you know resist persists exactly anyways uh let me pull let me pull oh oh oh but i did want to
00:35:49.180 say to you about carolyn mace you're missing one of the greatest things ever which is the morning
00:35:53.940 and the evening meditations what do you mean okay what do you mean so this is it's okay so
00:35:59.700 you know she talks about like spiritual your spiritual bank account some of them she talks
00:36:03.240 with this okay where it's like you know let's say you have a hundred energy units per day you know
00:36:09.460 and how you use those and spend those you need to do your energy like banking like you're like
00:36:13.980 you're you're balancing your checkbook like you need to you know she she says like look at how
00:36:18.560 you used your energy that day okay and where did you and she's like some of you are getting up and
00:36:23.220 like doing an automatic deposit of 10 units into having a grudge against your father or whatever
00:36:28.400 Oh, okay. So every day auto deposit. Right. Yeah. And her whole thing is, you know, energy and, and, and looking at it as in this fundamental, you know, power. Right. And, and what it is and like, where did I lose power today? Okay. And so, you know, spells, she talks about spells, like spell casting, like, you know, like, where did you fall under the, where did you give it? So she's like, she's like, you know, she always like would say this thing about like these women.
00:36:56.500 she's like i knew women who was like lives where i've told you it's like lives were ruined by like
00:37:01.040 the statistic that went around that was like you know you're more likely to get struck by lightning
00:37:05.560 than married after 30 whatever okay i mean this is a while ago but you know like like she's like
00:37:10.920 i knew women like so this spell she's like that's spell yeah like a thing like that that gets in 0.94
00:37:17.680 their head and changes their fucking life and how they're oriented towards their life that's not a 1.00
00:37:21.440 spells you know i mean real and that's not sucking power out of you whatever for you to you know buy 0.99
00:37:26.260 into it so so it's like what are you automatically depositing what are you walking around carrying
00:37:31.000 that is an automatic drain on your energy every day assuming you get a fresh 100 units you know
00:37:36.520 100 energy dollars from god per day and then she says if you drain the 100 right she's like
00:37:44.220 it's got to come from somewhere and it'll start to come from the flesh as in you know like it has
00:37:51.160 to come from somewhere the energy will have to you know so then then she's talking about
00:37:54.480 you know healing and and whatever right well by the way i and this is part of my moving the wi-fi
00:38:00.040 out of the bedroom i really am i'm committing to phone out of the last few nights we've done
00:38:05.120 no phone in the bedroom and even just the difference of waking up not going right for it
00:38:09.840 god listen folks i repeat embarrassment no i know but keep it out of your room guys it's like oh i'm
00:38:16.100 so sorry everyone no i do it for three days and i'm and i'm completely transformed unable to imagine
00:38:21.000 Well, we need the people to run ahead and find the oasis of water, drink it, and come
00:38:24.620 back and say the water's delicious.
00:38:25.940 We need it, even if you're just a tiny bit ahead, okay?
00:38:29.160 We need you.
00:38:30.180 We need the little guys running ahead. 1.00
00:38:33.100 Jacqueline, when I was in Ojai, I met a hag. 1.00
00:38:35.900 This was beautiful. 1.00
00:38:36.680 I met a hag named Sydney. 1.00
00:38:38.020 She came up to me at Rory's other place. 1.00
00:38:39.680 Shout out.
00:38:40.100 I was having incredible food there. 1.00
00:38:43.320 And she's like, I'm a hag, whatever. 1.00
00:38:45.240 She's like, I'm sent you. 0.99
00:38:46.840 She has a website.
00:38:49.280 It's called the Sonic Vessel.
00:38:51.000 And they are guided meditations and they move you altered state.
00:38:56.360 The idea is that they actually provide like altered state.
00:38:59.440 Yeah.
00:39:00.000 Okay.
00:39:00.300 And that like eventually basically.
00:39:01.880 Through what? 0.76
00:39:02.460 Binaural beats?
00:39:03.620 Altered perception.
00:39:04.680 Yeah.
00:39:04.800 Euphoria out of body.
00:39:06.340 And that people are like having full like.
00:39:10.600 Experiences?
00:39:11.480 Trips.
00:39:12.580 And like I look to think people are like, I saw my dead relative who, you know, like they're going in.
00:39:18.500 Okay.
00:39:18.980 So we're going to try that.
00:39:19.920 the sonic vessel so i'm i'm so in i did one and i was like and she said she's like don't get
00:39:27.320 discouraged if you're not immediately having some kind of sensation or realization so it takes a
00:39:31.800 few she was like but the there's like six of them and the idea is like do one a few times and move
00:39:36.300 on to two and i'll tell you this the first one the very least it's half an hour long the very least
00:39:41.860 i felt altered extremely relaxed there's like humming so you're like
00:39:46.020 and it's and the music you're humming yeah very very good by the way very good it's right there
00:39:54.000 for you beautiful vibration hum i think she said like someone from arcade fire helped her make
00:39:59.340 that like the instrumentals like it's really beautiful yeah i'm gonna send it to you the
00:40:03.080 sacred vessel but vessel but i want because jacqueline it's like astral projection and
00:40:07.900 shit oh yeah well you and me do it at the same time gotta train the mind we could um you know
00:40:13.360 go and meet up absolutely between our locations particularly now i'm getting into the alien stuff 0.99
00:40:17.420 yeah and um anyway shout out to sydney ended up going with my my mother who's never done karaoke
00:40:23.300 in ohio she's always been like i want to try we walked by a dive bar they were having karaoke
00:40:27.020 night sydney was in there no called us in bought us prosecco we did karaoke over there for hours
00:40:33.120 it's one of the most beautiful experiences i'll treasure it forever yes like 12 people and was
00:40:37.100 your mother having fun yes oh my god it was euphoric my mother was like my my belief in
00:40:42.680 humanity is completely restored it's like so sweet just going to a random dive bar everyone's
00:40:46.460 really supportive it's like the same 10 people it's like a group of it was like 10 people it's
00:40:51.280 like 15 max a guy brought his trumpet oh my god and did a trumpet karaoke and then somebody was
00:40:56.500 singing and then he from the back of the room was accompanying on trumpet i mean it was like
00:40:59.560 the sweetest thing it's beautiful sam's place in ohio anyway um yeah when people sing uh or when
00:41:07.120 people like like you know like when there's a willingness to sing oh it's beautiful when you
00:41:12.780 see people singing because my mom's like but i'm not a good singer it's not about that have you
00:41:16.700 heard of what karaoke is it's not about that and then you really see people and some people you
00:41:21.680 see their soul yeah like they're brave i'm up there and i'm going i'm still trapped playing
00:41:29.200 you're joking yeah it's too scary i could never and some of them get up there and they bear their 0.99
00:41:32.980 fuck oh my god they bare their fucking souls and jacqueline this woman did a rendition of 0.99
00:41:36.620 what's going on yeah and she fucking rocked my world you mean what she was like what oh no what's 1.00
00:41:44.100 going on sorry and i said hey pook song what's going on she was our song unreal before it became 0.87
00:41:53.380 a social media like trend or whatever oh yeah guys she was she and she had her soul out she
00:41:59.820 She had her soul out, folks, and guess what?
00:42:01.480 It was gorgeous, and it was yearning, and it was real.
00:42:05.280 But wait, I do want to close this for you, which is that – so the energy units, right?
00:42:10.320 And how are you –
00:42:11.320 Okay, yeah.
00:42:11.980 So there's all these different ways that you might – and so what she does is take you through the seven energy centers, okay?
00:42:20.160 Chakra-based, whatever.
00:42:21.320 Okay.
00:42:22.140 Morning and evening.
00:42:24.320 And this recording is like 30 years old at this point.
00:42:26.820 Like even her voice sounds a little different.
00:42:28.140 like it's like okay i love her and and we need to write to her yeah well she did some messages
00:42:36.720 were passed through and then she sent me a note saying she heard that the poog you know
00:42:41.180 called her like a badass like and i was like i actually called her a hard-ass spiritual leader 0.87
00:42:45.700 even funnier you know like she's like a hard-ass um yeah which is why we like her whatever we're
00:42:50.720 gonna do like in addition to the aristocrats episode which by the way we never got around to
00:42:55.400 okay we're doing like a seven parter begging begging so anyway so so just hear this okay
00:43:02.520 i'm here so it's it's not like trippy okay it's very grounded okay and she takes you through the
00:43:09.340 energy centers through the truth of each energy center okay and through the cosmic truth because
00:43:15.700 there's like you know not the mansions the energy centers okay but she does you know she draws
00:43:20.460 comparison across all of you know the seven various traditions so she she does draw that
00:43:25.580 comparison but not in this in this it's short it's probably like 20 minutes there's an instrumental
00:43:31.120 behind it when she goes through each center i mean she goes like with the you know second chakra
00:43:35.440 she's like i feel like she's like you know money okay like like it's it's it's specific or she's
00:43:40.580 like how many people crossed your path today like who who do you feel unable to forgive okay it's
00:43:47.280 very ground where did you lose your energy today okay i can forgive everyone i forgive everyone
00:43:54.320 do you have the do you have forgive them all well yeah yeah i mean i i mean i think it's i think
00:44:00.620 it's more like like yeah i fundamentally believe that where it gets you is like in
00:44:05.000 more like little moments or something like oh today moments and by the way this is when the
00:44:10.300 group workout class is actually deeply yeah meaningful like meaningful because part of why
00:44:15.400 I like going because I don't like working out alone I just fucking can't do it or something
00:44:18.800 right but it's like there's the getting out of bed thing but there's also the thing of encountering 0.90
00:44:22.320 the other and there's stuff like for example it's small right you're in a class there was this woman
00:44:26.580 and I go she's a little weird like something you know I was just like I was like something about
00:44:30.880 hers off or something and then I thought maybe she was looking at me it's one of those weird
00:44:34.880 things you're in the mirror it's like and then I'm like oh my god I could seem like like in my
00:44:39.700 mind I was like is she mean right so strange but this is these are the things we cast on people
00:44:44.440 And I go, you could easily cast on that.
00:44:46.820 I mean, so here's a girl. 1.00
00:44:47.700 I go, oh, she's kind of mean. 1.00
00:44:48.580 I saw her a couple of times.
00:44:49.300 I go, I'm a little scared of her or something.
00:44:50.840 Today, she comes up to me so warm.
00:44:53.240 We had a little chat before class.
00:44:55.300 And I'm like, that's the face of God.
00:44:58.920 She's not mean.
00:45:00.080 She's an angel.
00:45:01.360 And I go, and just like that, anyone's going to look at me and think I'm mean or something
00:45:05.960 or she's off.
00:45:07.000 I like her.
00:45:08.060 And it's like, no, no.
00:45:12.900 Kindness should have been my business.
00:45:14.440 Sorry.
00:45:14.940 It's been ringing in my head since Christmas.
00:45:16.340 Well, by the way, the Caroline Mays thing that I've been saying a lot is like, dear
00:45:19.660 God, make me a vessel for grace.
00:45:21.080 Dear God, make me a vessel for grace.
00:45:22.560 Run through me.
00:45:23.200 And during challenging situations.
00:45:24.000 Run grace through me.
00:45:24.740 Let me be a channel.
00:45:25.320 I go, please, God, let me be a channel for grace.
00:45:27.040 Let me be a channel for grace.
00:45:28.020 Please let me be a channel for grace, God.
00:45:28.760 And also pray for the graces, okay?
00:45:34.120 Pray for discernment, right?
00:45:36.340 We got by the way.
00:45:37.000 Pray for patience, okay?
00:45:39.000 MDMA therapy.
00:45:42.480 Okay.
00:45:42.840 okay so so wait but let me give you a little more so she takes you through so in the morning it's
00:45:47.920 you know your energy in terms of how you're about to approach your day and then at the end of the
00:45:51.560 day it's how did i use it you know what i mean and looking at it and clearing the balancing the 0.86
00:45:56.680 fucking checkbook and so you can go into the next day and go am i gonna lose my energy today again 0.91
00:46:03.200 at the you know when when someone cuts me off in traffic yep yeah okay am i gonna lose because 1.00
00:46:09.740 because she's saying it's like to me it's like there's this plentiful nature of that you get
00:46:14.560 this these hundred units every day yeah and so it's like there's there's like a generosity there
00:46:19.780 there's a thing to be thankful for and then and then to go how am I going to use it and then the
00:46:24.460 other thing I thought you know I remember because a lot of the stuff I started reading when I was
00:46:29.100 like really asking questions about you know energy and like having physical energy like kind of like
00:46:34.640 you know, mental health, like depression, whatever. And I was like, you know, what I
00:46:39.120 kind of came to reading these kinds of things, but energy, I was like, let's just say there's
00:46:43.100 an unfixable sort of depletion in me energy wise. Let's say I have, let's say I had 80%
00:46:50.660 less energy in a core way than other people. Okay. Which by the way, like people do in that
00:46:55.720 people have all sorts of fucking shit, right? Illness, you know, things that take up their 0.99
00:46:59.700 energy that they can't control you know i mean whatever i was like even if it was not this greedy
00:47:05.340 make sure i get all of my energy it was almost like let's just say like there was nothing i could
00:47:08.820 do about it and i only had twenty dollars instead of a hundred dollars of energy every day well like
00:47:14.300 imagine the difference in your life about how you chose to spend those 20 energy units so who cares
00:47:20.900 like you know the baseline but then you know larger you are looking at things like going like
00:47:25.840 you know all right like where you know it's it's the it's these subscriptions you don't know you
00:47:31.760 have your soul has it's taking out 10 a month that's so funny as like a modern what are you 0.91
00:47:36.500 auto subscribe to that's and she will do that like she'll do that yeah like a hag wrote in and 1.00
00:47:41.000 i was like familiar with this they were pointing out because like carolyn has this thing about the 0.97
00:47:44.120 internet inner the internet oh the internet you know what i mean she like has these things and
00:47:51.320 It's like the best.
00:47:54.080 God, I love her.
00:47:54.960 How old is she?
00:47:55.720 We'll post it.
00:47:56.580 I'm not sure.
00:47:57.700 Where does she live?
00:47:58.580 We got to figure it out.
00:48:02.660 I, yeah.
00:48:04.780 I mean, the phone thing.
00:48:05.400 I'm wildly scraping with this tool.
00:48:08.020 Be careful.
00:48:08.940 All in any flesh. 1.00
00:48:13.200 My facialist woman that I went to, she was like, don't gua sha. 1.00
00:48:16.540 Just for me, because of my redness. 0.98
00:48:18.840 Right, right.
00:48:19.400 That makes sense.
00:48:20.060 Yeah.
00:48:20.680 That was hard.
00:48:21.140 I mean, I have a lot of redness too. 0.95
00:48:22.940 You know, they're, I mean, that's, you know, they're like, don't like, don't do like heat.
00:48:27.420 I'm like, well, I love a sauna, so I guess I'll be a red-faced sauna girl and that's
00:48:31.420 fine.
00:48:32.640 Um, and I still maintain that from a distance rosacea on the cheek, I mean, it's halfway
00:48:39.780 a blessing.
00:48:40.360 It's halfway rouge.
00:48:42.280 And I'm, you know, it's different than it being everywhere, blah, blah, blah.
00:48:45.180 But mine's mostly the cheek.
00:48:47.740 So how dare I?
00:48:49.900 Um.
00:48:51.140 should we pivot to products yeah let me just look around I actually have a box I have a box
00:48:56.600 from Sephora oh anyway all right but it is going to be product corner time which huge feature for
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