Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - November 17, 2020


Psychic Warfare

Topics
recapitulation techniques
Introducing： POOG Skincare Pt. 1

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Length

51 minutes

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176.07

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9,028

Sentence count

158

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Misogyny

8

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Toxicity

47

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29

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00:00:59.160 So I'm very excited about opening my Deborah King book and getting you to finally do one of the shamanic exercises.
00:01:06.180 Yes, I did some breath work, some sweeping breath to clear away some bad energy that could be blocking me in my life.
00:01:11.980 This was a really wild time.
00:01:14.020 You know, the California fires were raging in the background, we're choking on smoke, and yet we were still making it work in that home recorded studio due to the absolutely endless pandemic.
00:01:27.660 And I think and I hope and I pray that you people at home listening will enjoy it.
00:01:32.760 Welcome to POOG.
00:01:33.480 Enjoy. Thanks. Welcome. This is POOG.
00:01:35.480 You get it. Sorry.
00:01:36.700 Welcome.
00:01:38.980 So I am, I have a headache and I've had it since I took a first breath when I opened the door this morning.
00:01:47.340 I took a breath on the patio or the balcony and I thought it was a cloudy day in L.A., but it's not.
00:01:54.000 it's soot it's ash there's uh los angeles is uh experiencing record temperatures and
00:02:03.800 also there's fires it's california it's burning and when i got in my car this morning there was
00:02:08.180 ash actual ash on my car no smelled of fire and then i'm also reeling because i don't typically
00:02:15.900 wear perfume but i sampled outside of the friend's house five different perfumes so i have five
00:02:22.300 different perfumes on my body right now and i feel like i'm gonna throw up i have like how did
00:02:26.720 you sample those she lined them up and i took and i sprayed fun it was really fun it was very cute
00:02:33.220 i never wear perfume but i feel like i want to find one that i like and i'm actually
00:02:42.200 have you found one i'm there's two that i like the most you're so you have three on each arm
00:02:49.900 spread up the arm right yeah different quadrants but it's like they're on the back of my hand
00:02:55.860 I'm into the most but I it's I'm revolting I mean I just when I got in the car and drove I
00:03:01.540 was choking because so much perfume I wasn't thinking I was outside what I was like spraying 0.99
00:03:06.800 away types did you try they're all toxic for sure um pure poison I've got like a French one that's
00:03:17.300 kind of um a little bit floral i don't like perfumey perfume but is that what everyone says
00:03:22.820 like that's no one likes the smell of kind of like people being like i'd like a drier wine
00:03:26.900 exactly and it's like yeah yeah we didn't think you wanted manischewitz yeah yeah i would like a
00:03:32.720 sweet thick wine yeah exactly something dry that's so funny something just something dry
00:03:39.720 i feel like it's probably not even my insight just want to clarify you know i feel like i've
00:03:44.360 never heard it said but yeah i feel like i want to perf i don't want a perfumey perfume it's a
00:03:49.140 few about their weddings like i don't want a wedding wedding it's like well i'm gonna tell
00:03:52.880 you it's gonna be wedding yeah i mean you can't escape it your attempts to escape oh the attempts
00:03:59.300 to escape the attempts to are you ready like converse i mean i like converse under the dress 0.99
00:04:06.020 you know what i mean oh yeah craft cocktail in a jar you're so fucked yeah i mean you know yeah 0.98
00:04:12.260 it's um oh yeah lift the bride lifting up her dress to reveal converse is one of the most 0.98
00:04:17.540 heinous visions of like capitalism i'll ever witness and also also because you know me and
00:04:24.380 jamie lead to this wedding guidebook and like so we were like looking into these trends obviously
00:04:29.100 and like and the one that makes me the most angry is the bridal feet okay either in sneakers but
00:04:37.320 even if it's in heels or whatever some some fun shoe the one the one foot pigeon toed thing to
00:04:43.820 be quirky oh the pigeon toe okay like like it's like it's like oops like or it's not even like
00:04:50.300 oops it's like hey i don't know who me no it's like it is but it isn't yes yes it's so bad and
00:04:57.660 the feet i mean and that's like a general like delia's catalog slash like modeling thing too
00:05:02.400 to like basically in the same way that heels you know like destabilize the woman or whatever
00:05:07.080 from being able to walk well it's like it's like yeah you can't just have your feet like forward
00:05:11.400 or even like naturally sticking out a little bit like they might or whatever their natural position
00:05:15.160 is like just like too like planted it like has to be like off like ever so slightly off off balance
00:05:21.640 yeah yeah ever so slightly it's like the oh it's the fetishization yeah it's like the white couple
00:05:30.520 kissing and then they turn around and baby's got back like starts blaring and then they walk down
00:05:35.100 the aisle like i know that's happened or i've seen it i don't know but like definitely or i
00:05:45.380 remember someone god bless because it's a friend and they might listen to this podcast yes i remember
00:05:49.960 a friend remarking that their friend's wedding was cool because they had hired an orchestra
00:05:56.360 to play their favorite drake songs and i was like oh god oh god wait there's one song that
00:06:12.360 and i found like we did a compilation at one point like but like there's one song that
00:06:17.560 bridesmaids always do um like a version for oh i think it's the fresh prince um oh well here's
00:06:25.920 little something that you need to know when Laura
00:06:27.900 met Kevin a while ago.
00:06:32.600 That's how she named that girl
00:06:33.960 Kevin.
00:06:37.860 Kevin, before
00:06:39.860 Lisa met you,
00:06:41.500 Lisa was a disaster.
00:06:44.540 Before Lisa met you, 0.94
00:06:46.120 she could barely get out of bed.
00:06:48.460 Yeah. 0.99
00:06:49.560 Lisa was suicidal.
00:06:52.160 When she met you, Kevin.
00:06:54.660 Oh, God.
00:06:55.920 yeah it's bad stuff you know what i also think people always talk about the bride it's the
00:07:00.440 bride's big day but i feel like for some grooms it's really like big it's actually about them 0.99
00:07:09.660 and i think brilliant like brilliant yeah it's always about the bride the bitch the bridezilla 0.99
00:07:14.340 yeah i feel like grooms are so fucked up too oh the groom pile we opened it today 0.99
00:07:25.280 yes well i just think about grooms needing their boys to be like to be like um 0.99
00:07:32.720 popping their chests rhythm yeah yeah background pulsating their chests and being like wait i can't
00:07:41.000 fully see you and i'm trying to figure out how to fix it hold on you can't see me let me open my
00:07:44.780 yeah hold on i'm sorry to interrupt okay somebody hurt me too much somebody hurt me too deep
00:07:53.140 somebody sit in my chair and ruin my sleep and make me aware of being alive
00:08:02.680 i just want to say i liked that song before it was a marriage story
00:08:11.000 oh so i actually of course i loved that movie and i wept i wept when adam driver sang it or a
00:08:18.920 single tear did fall he sings it i've been crying i've never seen the film i've only seen i really
00:08:24.160 liked it i thought people needed to relax people that were like in what world do people like i
00:08:31.120 don't know what the criticism was but i was like relax no you know you know how hard it is to make
00:08:35.660 a decent indie these days oh my god what do you want like what do you want do you want marriage
00:08:42.900 story or do you just want the avengers yeah or do you want a movie about a broom that 4.2 people see
00:08:51.560 but that's incredible imagine if there was a movie okay because i know we think a lot about
00:08:56.160 the essence of you as being cast as a broom okay or sort of a general question
00:09:00.980 but it's like it's like imagine imagine how infuriating it would be if there was a movie
00:09:07.720 in which someone was cast as a broom and you didn't get the role i'd be furious because i've
00:09:12.000 been talking about playing a broom for years yeah literally years and it would be maybe i should
00:09:17.040 write like a pixar movie movie about brooms no no no no i i hope my head i wasn't i wasn't
00:09:24.440 searching your face for a glimmer of hope no i was actually like i was already like moving into
00:09:28.300 plotting the middle of act two okay that's our next business venture first we get rich from the
00:09:34.420 podcast yes and then we launch a animation studio because it's easy you know well a jar of milk
00:09:42.400 can't find its lid boom i remember once reading something like pixar or something like literally
00:09:48.680 being like like you're you know you're a pixar person like you know you're meant to work at the
00:09:52.540 studio of dreams or whatever like like if you're someone who worries about the bike being cold
00:09:57.800 outside and went in the grass and it's like and it's like yeah like i get that it is cute and
00:10:03.740 you're like kind of like you're like that's me you know but it's also like i feel like
00:10:07.720 like a good like at least like 50 of the population also like animates objects you
00:10:13.440 know what i mean like i feel like that's one of those things like are you someone okay like you
00:10:17.420 know it was my really irritated me like at 12 okay like i was always really annoyed when people
00:10:21.980 acted like like they're like i'm um like a little thing about me i i eat only the marshmallows out
00:10:28.680 of the lucky charms yeah okay like i go through the box okay like yeah yeah the charms out and by
00:10:35.820 the and then there's nothing but the other stuff okay it's like it was always like this like thing
00:10:40.980 like yeah like everyone likes the marshmallow you know what i mean but anyway yeah it's like are you
00:10:44.580 someone who you know then you belong at pixar imagine someone going into a pixar interview
00:10:49.060 and just being like I'm like trying to like milk that but like in a fresh way right like
00:10:53.520 constantly feeling bad for the objects in the pitch meeting room oh my god um so I the second
00:11:02.580 I took a sniff of the LA air today oh as the fires burn smelled like burning tires and I felt
00:11:08.960 like a headache went in through my nose and into my head so now I'm wildly um searching classically
00:11:16.300 wire cutter strategist etc etc for best purifiers honey we gotta we gotta do it I've got a Dyson
00:11:24.140 on the bedroom that I'm happy with but I need something for the living room you know what's
00:11:28.180 so scary and I this is something I turn away from is that like you're really supposed to have an air
00:11:34.080 purifier on like raging in your kitchen when you're cooking because of all the fumes that come
00:11:39.240 off like cooking and apparently like we'll all die in 10 days like that's what's killing us is
00:11:46.220 like cooking fumes like being like in a room with like burnt toast and oil like toast burning like
00:11:52.580 the like the invisible there's this whole there's an article in the times i believe about how the
00:11:57.580 little fragments of toast burning like yeah will murder you slowly over the course of 25 years
00:12:03.320 and then at the end of the article and this haunted me there they go into in depth about
00:12:08.080 these little micro particles from the burnt bread they enter your they go to your lungs they go
00:12:14.020 they're so small they go through your nose and they just go right into your lungs right and it's
00:12:18.380 really bad is it as bad as smoking well it's something bad it's worse no i don't know but
00:12:24.500 it's bad and then at the end they're like don't even get us started on candles and i was like no
00:12:29.640 oh no which is why i'm actually excited because i'm really excited for a vitruvi gorgeous oil
00:12:37.700 diffuser it's an accent piece folks i know i was not sent a free one well my fear of candles it's
00:12:46.040 what's getting me into oil diffusing right but true makes a gorgeous one but you know i turned
00:12:51.980 off of oils after buying a uh sage diffuser and products okay it's like sa j i was gonna say it
00:13:00.960 is say oh yeah don't they make no no but that's what's it's spelled like it shouldn't be safe
00:13:05.640 and no it's all oils and oils diffusers in there and i got it and then i read a thing online like
00:13:11.340 if you have a cat or a pet you really shouldn't be diffusing these oils into the air it's like
00:13:15.800 like toxic for the cats but not for us well okay i gotta say if it's toxic for the cat
00:13:22.740 why isn't it toxic for me i mean yes it's maybe like it fills their smaller lungs faster
00:13:27.920 but you know aromatherapy um it's so cute a cat's small lungs but i feel like people that i
00:13:35.240 Have consulted on the internet
00:13:37.280 Who are all about health
00:13:38.480 They believe in oil diffusers
00:13:40.140 If you're diffusing oil in mist
00:13:43.320 Or in steam
00:13:44.400 You're not burning anything
00:13:46.780 I mean toast is killer 1.00
00:13:49.020 We're fucked 1.00
00:13:49.660 Toast 1.00
00:13:51.620 There's nothing more simple
00:13:54.120 In healing than toast
00:13:55.520 And even that's going to kill you
00:13:59.040 Somebody hurt me too deep 0.98
00:14:03.000 Right now 0.99
00:14:03.580 it like the light just coming in through my window looks like like shit it's not it's not orange it's
00:14:09.840 not like full orange but it's like kind of yellow no it's it's so eerie it's utterly bizarre i like
00:14:16.300 waking up in the morning and seeing the light coming through the shades and it's like what
00:14:20.500 even is it it's just it's gray yellow it's shit so to speak yeah it's completely like diffused 0.91
00:14:27.040 other planet like the ones that are really orange where it looks like mars like it almost looks like 0.86
00:14:32.780 a really bright day on mars or something like like here because like it's not anyway i can't
00:14:37.700 even describe to you the cloud of perfume that i'm sitting in i can't describe to you the cloud
00:14:44.020 of perfume that i'm sitting in that is pure chaos i don't like a warm one look at this little muscle 0.99
00:14:52.660 that's popping because of the pilates you see you fucker what are you shocked by the way i was 0.99
00:14:58.280 thinking about this the other day and the way that you were like you've been running home you said to 0.99
00:15:02.320 me and doing your little skin care yeah i know okay no i've been doing some pilates you've been
00:15:07.680 doing pilates quietly without trying to bring me in on it look look at this oh i see it wait it's
00:15:14.440 not this light isn't good for it i know but i can see the line i can see i swear to god there's a
00:15:19.620 little dent i see it i see it in this light turn ever so slightly to the side there there it is
00:15:26.820 damn i love that upper dent sorry to yank you out of that delicious flow but we're gonna take
00:15:33.040 a quick break and then we'll be back to the real meat and potatoes of the psychic warfare conversation 0.96
00:15:39.320 back from the break it's time to get into the exercise so do you want to hear some psychic
00:15:47.500 warfare stuff and i'll lead you into the whole thing um as you know i've gone down the rabbit
00:15:53.800 hole of the healing world yes part of that is due to my interest in the metaphysical um my desire
00:16:00.120 for magic you know mystery in this life I sort of have defended it in the past by saying that
00:16:07.320 when I was dealing with depression and trying to get on the right meds and being like well maybe
00:16:12.980 I just there will never be the right meds and and literally in times where I was like waiting
00:16:18.060 to see if the meds worked and it's like you got to give it a couple weeks it was like well what
00:16:22.100 else can i do during this time so like meditate read you know basically i was like i was like let's 0.99
00:16:27.480 go spiritual on this shit yeah like a monster's coming in the house you throw rocks at it and 0.97
00:16:32.660 it's like the rocks are flying through it you better pull out your cross and ask ask the lord 1.00
00:16:38.760 to protect you you know what i mean i remember my sister we were watching this like some horror
00:16:44.860 movie where there's these spirits demons like tormenting these people and there's this one guy
00:16:48.800 like one guy in the family who's like wildly grabbing for the bible and like just yelling
00:16:53.120 scripture like like at him and like he kind of is played like a fool you know but it was like
00:16:58.240 honestly like like good at least he's trying to do something you know yeah so yeah so so with the 0.78
00:17:05.520 depression stuff i was like all right i gotta like i gotta throw everything at this and sort of
00:17:10.540 reading all this healing stuff and i came across this woman deborah king listening to hay house
00:17:16.660 radio in my car and I remember I remember driving past a supermarket near my parents and liked her
00:17:22.760 style liked her voice everything started reading her books got kind of into them did a couple
00:17:28.300 healing energy healing type workshops and I was rereading one of my favorite books from her be
00:17:34.680 be your own shaman I want to take you through what I was reading in the chapter called psychic
00:17:40.320 warfare so have you run into problems caused by another person's negative intent maybe with a
00:17:46.640 member of your own family stereotypes like the mother-in-law hell-bent on disempowering her son's
00:17:52.540 wife are based on the reality of powerful suppressed emotions such as jealousy okay
00:17:58.440 do you have a chronic health problem such as headaches or backaches now we know those are
00:18:03.540 caused by many things okay it's pretty dangerous to leap right to you know psychic malintent from
00:18:09.160 another however she goes some of your problems may in fact be caused by the negative intent of
00:18:14.580 others and i call that being under psychic attack are you shocked i'm scared psychic attack yeah
00:18:21.100 psychic attack happens when another person has formed an intention consciously or not to hurt
00:18:27.700 you and his or her negative energy has entered your own field and body i don't like it you hate
00:18:36.080 it you hate it i don't like it because i'm like so someone out there that for whatever reason hates
00:18:41.320 you is giving you like is making you constipated it could be but here's i mean but it's not like
00:18:46.800 you're powerless okay here's because here's the thing most people don't even consider that they
00:18:50.740 have an energy field okay so that it's like now if you do you can protect it you can you know
00:18:56.460 there's all manner of things you can do don't worry she gives us the tools okay okay so it can
00:19:00.700 be as simple as picking up a little negative energy from someone who's in a bad mood such
00:19:04.800 as a bank teller or a supermarket clerk who's having a bad day or being stalked by a spurned
00:19:10.720 lover and can go all the way up to full-blown demonic possession.
00:19:19.040 From bank teller to demon.
00:19:22.500 Yeah.
00:19:24.380 Okay.
00:19:25.480 Now, let me skip ahead to sort of the layers, okay, from lightest to deepest, because this
00:19:31.240 is where I feel you can be empowered.
00:19:33.100 All right.
00:19:34.180 Have you ever been slimed?
00:19:35.720 So getting slimed is by far the most common and low-level attack, okay?
00:19:42.360 And then this is pretty interesting.
00:19:43.560 So she says, if you have a hole in your energy field, it slips right in.
00:19:48.080 This is a fairly ordinary energetic problem.
00:19:51.460 Now, here's the solution.
00:19:53.080 Are you ready for it?
00:19:54.060 Mm-hmm.
00:19:55.040 For low-level sliming.
00:19:56.760 So if you think you've been slimed, you probably have.
00:19:59.420 You can remove the negative energy that's in your body and field
00:20:02.360 by adding one pound of sea salt
00:20:04.940 and one pound of baking soda
00:20:06.660 to a bath and soaking for 20 minutes. 0.68
00:20:09.140 Yes!
00:20:11.060 By the way, a pound?
00:20:13.240 Where am I getting a pound?
00:20:14.360 A single package.
00:20:15.960 I've done this.
00:20:17.000 I've read this book years ago.
00:20:18.420 A pound of baking soda is one of those little packages?
00:20:20.520 One of the classic squares that you see.
00:20:22.700 The classic rectangular square of baking soda is a pound.
00:20:26.920 See, that's when I start to get a little bit like...
00:20:28.680 99 cents!
00:20:29.720 oh you mean like you think she's in league with arm and hammer no no i start to get a little bit 0.86
00:20:35.660 like really that's gonna clean it salt and baking soda no totally totally totally like a housewife's
00:20:42.740 remedy if a spilled wine on the carpet is like also no i totally and that's what's hilarious to
00:20:49.780 me okay because it is um physical and so you're like really right however i mean if the physical
00:20:56.220 world is a manifestation of the non-physical world and you can see it as pure you know
00:21:01.620 intentionality at work okay and i've done it and the intentionality alone of knowing that you're
00:21:07.500 taking a cleansing bath to me cool yeah yeah that you know it does it yeah but i enjoy lending to
00:21:13.660 the ritual and then this is this is big other possible solutions are to go for a swim in the
00:21:18.740 ocean or spend 20 minutes sunbathing, preferably full body. Okay. If you feel fine afterwards,
00:21:28.480 it was slime. If you don't, are you ready? It's more likely a cord. Boom. Next level.
00:21:36.460 Oh no. Oh no. Okay. No, but it is, this is interesting. This is interesting. I think
00:21:40.560 you'll, you'll, I've been meaning to tell you about this for a while. Okay. You ready?
00:21:44.000 The cords that connect us. Okay. So one of the most frequent methods of committing psychic
00:21:48.260 warfare is chording. Chords are streamers of auric light that connect us to one another.
00:21:54.800 Okay. And each one matches up to the same chakra in the other person. So something flying from
00:22:00.220 your second chakra to someone else's second chakra, heart to heart. Right. And she's like,
00:22:05.220 as you suspect, there are good chords and there are bad chords. Negative chords indicate a
00:22:10.160 vulnerability within us. If we can be negatively corded, it means we have emotions we haven't
00:22:15.080 processed, memories we haven't brought to closure. Again, that's why I'm always stressing the
00:22:20.400 importance of meditation, journaling, therapy, and personal work. You can never escape it.
00:22:25.580 Hear that?
00:22:26.160 You can never escape the basic personal work. So with training, it is possible to learn to
00:22:32.700 send back negative cords. You can also have them removed by a healer like herself. Either way,
00:22:39.100 you'll want to learn the following powerful shamanic technique. Recapitulation.
00:22:43.440 I'm really into this so recapitulation a shamanic technique now the reason I'm into it is because I
00:22:48.620 want all my energy back and the reason I got into this at the time was because I was like okay if
00:22:52.380 I'm like 50 diminished due to depression and it's never going to lift and the meds are never going
00:22:57.460 to help and that's just going to be I'm just 50 down I want to make sure that the remaining 50
00:23:02.480 that I technically could have let's say yeah I've got all of it I don't want 10 stuck in you know
00:23:09.440 lack of forgiveness you know like an example like it was like it takes energy to like have a grudge
00:23:15.580 against your father every day that's a couple units of energy grudges whatever that's why
00:23:20.360 forgiveness comes up so much in healing god i read that i remember once this this yoga teacher
00:23:25.460 this kundalini yoga teacher i had had us doing this kriya where it involved like pulling back
00:23:30.180 energy from like other people throughout your life and it said this thing it was like it was
00:23:36.160 like it was like this you know gendered thing but it was like men after a sexual encounter like
00:23:41.820 stay courted to you know the partner for three months okay like energetically oh christ and
00:23:50.260 then it was like women stay courted to sexual partners for 300 lifetimes oh god isn't that
00:23:59.400 the worst yourself yeah yeah of course right yeah okay so anyway we're like exclusively receptacles 0.96
00:24:04.600 for male semen yeah and like you can't wash it out yeah well it's like 0.99
00:24:11.080 stained stained from this life into the next i mean yeah that's so rude one night stand from 0.98
00:24:19.260 the saloon wasn't as fun as you thought it was was it deborah yeah so recapitulation okay
00:24:29.020 it's the act of calling back the energy we have already spent in past actions it not only retrieves
00:24:36.200 the energy you have given away in your lifetime it also clears you of the energetic deposits of
00:24:40.780 others in short you return to the moments of your life when you spent the energy relive them in as
00:24:46.000 much detail as possible as if you were actually there now and then your energy will be released
00:24:50.540 and restored to you this allows you to turn the clock back as what ages you the most is your loss
00:24:55.680 of energy you will be surprised at the amount of energy and clarity regain by completing this
00:25:01.900 process even if you only do it partially love it how do you want to know how yes now baking soda
00:25:08.140 honey i'll take it so this this version of recapitulation is called the sweeping breath
00:25:14.820 basically while you're recalling a person in your mind you breathe in and move your head
00:25:20.060 from right to left so hang on so breathe in and you think about the person breathe in
00:25:25.620 okay hold on okay i'm gonna really do it we're calling the person all right so it's this head
00:25:30.900 head moving the head from right to left picking up any energy you spent in the relationship
00:25:35.580 and then as you breathe out your head moves left to right and ejects the remaining fragments of
00:25:40.220 this individual's energy from your field wait do it for me first okay hold on where you breathe in
00:25:47.640 the memory and then you blow out the you pick up the energy you spent in the relationship so
00:25:52.240 so get your energy back okay like like take take what's yours and then and then out yes and then
00:26:00.620 out your head moves from left to right and ejects the remaining fragments of their energy
00:26:05.240 so that's yours out give them what's theirs okay
00:26:09.180 oh it hurt my neck okay you gotta work from the core all right are you ready okay okay there's
00:26:18.880 more there's more okay hold on yeah all right all right get in position this is classic i love
00:26:23.680 when she's all right ready invocation one sit in a chair with your knees apart to maintain a good
00:26:29.760 connection with the ground through your first chakra okay preferably make contact with the
00:26:34.440 floor barefoot as there are important chakras in the soles of your feet socks are coming off folks
00:26:40.740 our listeners take off your socks okay okay and feel the sky socks off everyone yeah
00:26:51.880 invoke out loud or silently so we you know listeners and you guys can do this um silently
00:26:59.360 invoke any invoke your higher self okay any spiritual masters guides angels or other beings
00:27:06.700 whom you resonate with and would like to have help you okay i have no one it's so sad i'm like
00:27:12.200 just imagining like i know but i'm like who well i mean you used to do the rosary so where's mother
00:27:19.460 mary no you did the rosary do it for me okay go for mary magdalene then no more all right i'll get
00:27:27.200 you out of that all right all right how about um egyptian goddess isis i don't know what she looks
00:27:31.520 like what can i just do like fran lebowitz or something absolutely okay okay okay absolutely
00:27:38.920 all right great um so let me let me let me do it everyone do it okay hold on
00:27:42.700 and you can also do ones that you don't know are there like like whoever my guides are
00:27:50.720 yeah guys i have them that i don't know come here guides to the front okay so we invoke them
00:27:57.940 and your own higher self okay yeah to choose a person to recapitulate select anyone in your life
00:28:03.040 with whom you've ever interacted mother father partner child boss ex-friend friend alive or dead
00:28:09.160 good to know do not pick a person with whom you've had any interactions in which you were frightened
00:28:13.500 for your safety as that requires another more advanced form of this practice that she teaches
00:28:18.700 in her you know in her programs see appendix that sort of thing but feel free to choose someone with
00:28:24.780 whom you've had plenty of upsetting experiences okay okay close your eyes and mentally place the
00:28:32.480 person you have chosen to recapitulate directly in front of you okay take a few minutes to let
00:28:38.040 this individual come into your awareness as clearly as possible begin the sweeping breath
00:28:43.320 breathe in through your mouth as you turn your head from center to the left
00:28:49.080 suck it in yeah and then exhale out your mouth as you turn your head past the center and over
00:28:56.180 after the first breath or two switch to breathing through your nose 0.99
00:29:06.560 nose both ways okay it's mouth mouth mouth mouth mouth mouth and then after you're
00:29:14.940 into that then you go to nose yeah okay the perfume cloud that's surrounding me is making this
00:29:19.960 really maintain the image of the person you chose to recapitulate to keep going 0.82
00:29:26.340 okay about 10 to 15 minutes per person damn is the right length of time when you're new to this
00:29:37.600 it's not unusual to have to repeat the technique for the key people in your life in order to
00:29:41.720 totally complete the energy exchange okay so this is some stuff you got to do later for for a good
00:29:47.780 15 but this is like you know i think the teaching right all right yeah
00:29:51.860 wait wait wait wait wait watch me is this it
00:29:59.720 no no okay okay okay close your mouth and hold it closed tight
00:30:07.480 cover it if you must to learn you know like a child jumping into a pool holding their okay i
00:30:17.660 did it okay now you suspend the breath and you for those listening i just demonstrated
00:30:24.640 sweeping suspend the breath means you know stop it yeah sorry i'm just used to the terms
00:30:31.880 three of them yeah yeah left to right left to right left to right and then come still in the
00:30:35.980 center so i think that's pretty huge but the end of it is just the stillness yeah but that's just
00:30:46.680 a way to close it so it's like instead of this sloppy process of going like where you're like
00:30:51.900 using the breath to eject and pull back your energy right and eject their filaments instead
00:30:55.860 of just like sliding back into breathing regularly you need something to like seal the practice got
00:31:02.140 Right. And then, you know, she talks about if you if you got to do some heavy work with like some serious heavy stuff.
00:31:11.420 All right. Let's talk about this. So are you going to do it?
00:31:16.100 Didn't I just do it? Yes. But I mean, for every person you've ever met.
00:31:20.860 No. Jacqueline here just to pluck you out of that conversational flow. 0.95
00:31:26.160 Thank you for participating in the exercise. After the break, the conversation will continue to unfold naturally and gloriously.
00:31:32.140 enjoy the ads my voice should signal to you that the ads are over i'm very fortunate
00:31:40.540 to say that i don't feel like i i there aren't like significant relationships that i feel have
00:31:48.700 courted me so to speak in a negative way a school-owned lover or whatnot you know i don't um
00:31:54.960 or yeah i know yeah i mean of course i can think of a couple people where it's like
00:31:58.960 oh that was kind of weird but it's never anything that was that involved yeah maybe someone's idea
00:32:05.420 of you what's scary is someone who doesn't know you but has an idea of you or exactly i mean i
00:32:11.460 you know my you know my mind went maryland goddamn monroe the poor girl these mega celebrities 0.94
00:32:17.960 they are courted to hell i was mo i was moments from saying it maryland no but but but these you 0.95
00:32:25.480 these celebrity figures robert downey jr who's who's i mean everyone loves him actually who are
00:32:31.820 people like celebrities like yeah people are really oh no no yeah and like i don't even want
00:32:37.780 to name them because i don't want to participate in their whatever like in their the hatred of them
00:32:41.820 but i do think that like um i do think that these celebrities perfect example what you like you 0.99
00:32:48.160 could argue like the fucking shame of a nation projected onto her oh i mean the fact that she's 0.73
00:32:54.920 still alive is shocking yeah i mean she and reveals that she is like a healer you know what 0.98
00:33:01.900 i mean like she's a talk about a wounded healer archetype she's the strongest woman that's ever
00:33:07.120 lived imagine her self-care i know what she has had to do her desert she had to walk through at 1.00
00:33:13.540 age 23 or whatever a pound of baking soda couldn't even clear linda trips cord oh yeah and in the
00:33:23.560 nation i mean like to take the nation hatred of the nation or like the whatever of the nation
00:33:28.320 biblical like loathing sometimes i've thought like that there is power in um like for public 0.98
00:33:35.940 figures having a different name like having a stage name whatever has some value oh damn that's
00:33:43.100 cool okay because that's cool energetically to have people thinking your name to me the name
00:33:50.340 is like an energetic um pinpoint what is the name it is no hand or foot
00:33:55.380 are you immediately like uh jumping to the basleurman version when you or are you just
00:34:02.340 loosely i'm claire danes okay actually always annoyed me her delivery of that no me too i know 0.98
00:34:07.240 it's like funny oh they're talking about a dick really but i was always like come off it's it was 0.98
00:34:12.760 embarrassing and she was no any other part belonging to a man and then she's like no kate 0.98
00:34:18.800 i couldn't agree more i i've always felt this it was and this is huge for me they they i mean this
00:34:24.300 is one of my big complaints about the modern performance of shakespeare okay is leaning way
00:34:28.200 too hard into like the yes he did make a sexual reference okay like nor any other part belonging
00:34:34.040 to it like it was it was very like throw it away throw it away pretend it's just a script just use
00:34:41.620 it as words you don't need to like hammer it in right like just use the words because in real life
00:34:47.220 guess what here's what i would argue about the performance in real life if you're saying something
00:34:52.120 like that it's a little sexual a little you kind of breeze past it maybe you're a little embarrassed
00:34:56.120 yeah a little it's kind of an afterthought like no i'm not talking about that right right instead
00:35:01.540 of kind of being like like what is romeo right is that what it is what is romeo oh wait and she's
00:35:08.120 literally alone no she's like capulet montague like montague what is montague like but a name
00:35:13.740 and what did she say that to him or is she alone she's alone she's like that's what i thought
00:35:17.740 saying yeah it's romeo or romeo right it's oh no it's later it's later no i think it is
00:35:23.180 wherefore the rome i gotta rewatch the basilerman because i gotta say it's in my top 10 it's
00:35:28.340 perfection i think it really is in my top 10 you know it's huge in movies closely uh a close like
00:35:34.380 a tight shot of a like adolescent or woman in general okay underwater in a bathtub with open
00:35:42.640 eyes holding her breath like i mean they do it in there it's everywhere you know i'm like is that a
00:35:48.060 male fantasy of what like female like like like contemplation looks like like what we do alone
00:35:53.840 well also what is the deal in horror movies it's always a woman in a bathtub or it's always an old
00:35:59.200 wench in a bathtub who's like it's always a woman in a bathtub i mean the shining has like holding
00:36:06.360 the sides of the bed like like it's um oh yeah no no no like why are we like no and honestly it's
00:36:13.340 like it's like the woman is it just from yeah i'm done with if someone's crawling on the ceiling
00:36:18.800 i'm not watching your movie if someone's crawling on the ceiling i mean i'm watching it i'm loving
00:36:23.200 do you want to know that the number yes but do you want to know the number one i i i accept you
00:36:28.260 know tropes are not inherently bad whatever whatever no of course part of the language of
00:36:34.180 however if this can never if this if i see it again and i will every time i think they're not
00:36:40.780 going to do it every time i think there's no way they're going to do it they do it are you ready
00:36:43.400 the demon the ghost the whatever is revealed through the child's drawings oh
00:36:50.080 okay and it's like it's like the wonder room they start their eyes darting around at the
00:36:55.640 child's drawing look they all have the red man the red man right right right the hat man the
00:37:00.300 hat man and then it's like it's like they start flipping through and it's like it's like he's
00:37:04.120 there in every photo and then like the harsh crayon circling but i'm like why isn't it like if
00:37:10.760 like who doesn't even i would be annoyed even with this and yet they don't even do this they
00:37:14.900 go like okay well let's like say like so they find it in the children's right well we're not
00:37:17.800 going to do crayon drawings obviously it's been done a million times how about you know you how
00:37:21.700 what else could the kid what other kind of art could the kid do or whatever kind of like
00:37:25.400 collage expression yeah why not turn to collage great sculpture okay like he's been turning his
00:37:31.460 like mashed potatoes into the baby's been turning their little mashed potatoes like into it that's
00:37:35.960 cool okay anything so easy to make it better and like furious anyway anyway anyway what's in a name
00:37:43.300 got it okay okay okay right and by the way one of my favorite activities when i was like driving to
00:37:49.200 like topeka kansas okay to do like a one-nighter damn i miss for stage time okay i would do act
00:37:56.200 one scene act two scene what whatever act four act one scene four whatever it is that one to
00:38:02.040 myself alone the monologue yes and i did a lot of shakespeare alone in my bedroom and one of the 0.74
00:38:07.840 hardest things like like fun game to try to say i me which is the first fucking two syllables i 0.60
00:38:15.060 I, me, Romeo, Romeo, wherefore, out there, Romeo, the most like common like phrase you've 0.75
00:38:20.900 heard a thousand times, right?
00:38:23.180 To do that compellingly.
00:38:25.020 Let's say that was your audition with I, me, and then Romeo, Romeo, wherefore, out there,
00:38:28.380 Romeo.
00:38:28.500 Okay, okay.
00:38:29.720 Okay.
00:38:30.580 I, me.
00:38:31.640 I would do an exhale, which is a cheap trick, but it works.
00:38:34.920 To lend it naturalism?
00:38:36.560 Maybe, yeah.
00:38:37.240 I, me.
00:38:37.560 I, me.
00:38:38.900 Romeo, Romeo.
00:38:40.320 Oh, it's impossible.
00:38:41.620 It's so hard, right?
00:38:42.780 Because it's like so built in.
00:38:43.720 and then it's like do you go counter text like or counter like and that would be like cornball
00:38:47.940 right like like if you were to like deeply counter like if like the tradition is like
00:38:51.440 romeo romeo wherefore art there is like sorry you're like romeo right right like romeo romeo
00:38:58.120 like romeo oh i like that i like taking the time shit that was good that was good i always try to 0.77
00:39:04.840 make it like real or different by going like so slow it's a humiliation romeo every audition i'm 0.66
00:39:10.920 like oh Romeo me Romeo oh Romeo see it's very hard to experience those lines like without hearing it
00:39:24.120 just as like the equivalent of the title drop of the movie in the middle of the movie similarly I
00:39:29.600 don't know this but I was thinking about I found myself crying the other day which I rarely do not
00:39:33.700 because I'm repressed I just honestly rarely cry and because and crying feels so good but it does
00:39:39.520 happen rarely for me and when it does i can't help but also be locked in the images of crying
00:39:44.900 and i'm like desperately happening and i'm crying and it feels good but then i'm also like i'm in
00:39:50.400 the i found myself crying at one point while mopping which was incredible i was immediately
00:39:55.840 i was like because you were like into an elizabethan era like exactly drama and it's so
00:40:00.220 when you're crying and you're really doing it you're connected to all the images of everyone
00:40:03.960 crying throughout time and all the movies and everything so it's like you aren't even there
00:40:08.280 you're just reenacting this you know skin of another of a celebrity crying this has been
00:40:15.260 one of my biggest philosophical questions for life what are we doing what is the true cry
00:40:19.780 okay because because there is you're even alone there's a performance to self okay and also
00:40:29.320 crying in front of another person i actually find more real and kind of easier to act because at
00:40:34.940 least they're your because at least you're at least it's you know I remember this like acting
00:40:40.680 teacher being like well most people when they're crying like in public or something or wherever
00:40:43.980 they're trying to not cry right like so there's that right so you're playing that yeah yeah oh
00:40:49.320 yeah okay but you know they're not like ah right so but alone I always feel like it's this testing
00:40:56.120 oneself like if like it's like you're like oh it's almost like you're seeing this natural thing
00:41:01.060 happening yeah and then i can't tell if the cry is the thing or the cry is the reaction to a
00:41:08.140 feeling in the throat and the whatever that you it's like is the cry you releasing the tension
00:41:13.240 in your throat do you see what i'm saying right or like it's not just like you singing to the
00:41:17.940 gods you know what i mean it's like yeah you're like oh like i was crying while driving yeah i've
00:41:24.180 done that and i was like time well this is great but also but like oh like i mean what is it i
00:41:31.040 there's a point where it like crosses over okay and there's almost like it's kind of like throwing
00:41:38.820 up i think like if you're not someone who you know throws up on purpose or something right
00:41:42.620 if it's like rare you're almost like like and you're like am i gonna throw up oh god like i'm
00:41:47.120 nauseous or i'm gagging a little bit and then like when it really happens there's almost like
00:41:50.760 a satisfaction of like i'm doing it like i like and i was right i did need to throw up you're
00:41:55.940 like yeah that was really it like come out like to chris or something like i'm like i just threw up
00:42:00.720 it's real okay no throwing up full projectile vomiting Chris I need to like be dead clear that
00:42:08.620 it was full projectile vomiting when you puke and because there's few things that we take serious
00:42:14.140 we're seriously in culture than vomit and so it's like when you vomit something about like
00:42:19.820 a woman vomiting yes it's like the only time that our pain is realized is real
00:42:25.180 oh it's like it's like we come out of the bathroom and we're like i threw up
00:42:29.980 no no imagine throwing up and not and not having telling anyone that's my fear it's not dying
00:42:39.200 alone it's throwing up alone yeah not being able to come out of the bathroom
00:42:43.620 no no right no and or me like i'm like chris okay yeah yelling to him even though there's
00:42:49.940 nothing for him to do like just like i'm throwing up here's what's great here's what's great when
00:42:55.060 you come out you feel much better you feel much better yeah so it's kind of you have to buttress
00:43:00.940 up the reality of the having just puked you can't just be relieved so it's kind of like
00:43:05.400 you get a sore out and you're kind of still like you're in that recovery buttress the like
00:43:14.040 please don't mistake me right you if you felt so much better you like came soaring out like i'm
00:43:19.060 back you don't want to get into the relief stage yet you want to still be you're not going to puke
00:43:22.420 in front of them but you want to somehow be able to still have you want it to be seen you want it
00:43:27.600 to be performed see i was always concerned as like like if i was sick and had to call in sick
00:43:32.480 for something okay i always felt like i always felt it was cheese to be like hey okay right
00:43:41.020 how do i put this i'm not feeling so well yeah by the way and yeah you're overselling you have
00:43:49.560 to call i never i go hi um i just because it's like i just threw up yeah i was like yeah yeah
00:43:54.740 okay i'd be like hi like i'm running 106 i'm definitely not gonna be able to come in today
00:43:58.600 because it's like yeah you'd be able to pull it together for the phone call yeah i think hey
00:44:03.900 yeah yeah for me also is some like okay the the thing about invisible illness right people
00:44:11.200 suffering from a variety of technically speaking invisible illnesses and how they they get no
00:44:19.240 like they get no love you know what i mean because of course no one believes that they're i mean
00:44:24.680 pain like like chronic pain yeah if the person looks fine it's like you know it's a disaster
00:44:29.640 and at least like there's a lot of online communities talking about it but the legitimacy 1.00
00:44:33.480 of culturally sanctioned pains although of course as we know one of the classic female
00:44:41.340 attributed pains menstrual pain yeah still regarded with secrecy and i mean sometimes i
00:44:49.580 do think about it i'm like because i'm a heavy bleeder okay folks oh she so i'm literally yeah
00:44:56.380 soaking through mattresses like six days a week not six days but like imagine like i'm bleeding
00:45:03.160 profusely you're a box spring bleeder days 24 hours and yet you just have to shut it up like 0.81
00:45:10.300 i have to shut it up i really will want to do we have to do a full menstrual full menstrual episode 0.78
00:45:16.540 because i'm really interested in the the hormonal cycles no we'll definitely we'll definitely do
00:45:22.560 that um episodes will come wait i just wanted to ask a couple more oh but i wanted to say because
00:45:26.780 it was all in a name the it's all in a name thing neither hand no foot right yeah the reason i was
00:45:31.240 saying that is because i was saying that like if you have a stage name then at least some of the
00:45:36.480 projected thinking about you to me like might go on to the thought form that is the the identity
00:45:42.780 and you know like so say it again so i was saying earlier like like you know if you have a stage
00:45:49.680 name and like all of america hates you you know at least there's like some there's a little bit
00:45:55.620 of a separation it's a decoy private self yeah it's a decoy self like a thought form and it
00:46:01.300 probably allows like you as a person to have both like your artistic expression you know identity
00:46:07.000 and then kind of like your personal it's like it's weird that like um like tom cruise like his
00:46:13.780 you know partner lies in bed with him and says like tom you know like the very same name we know
00:46:19.640 him as that's brilliant that really is brilliant hey like tom or he in like his own heart and soul
00:46:25.740 yeah and it's like we all also know the name so so i have this idea i i always try to stop people
00:46:31.520 from um insulting the name of like a new baby you know like like a new baby comes out and like it's
00:46:40.080 like they introduce like advil smith okay i just tried to come up with something that hasn't been
00:46:45.880 done imagine someone names their baby advil okay okay so they're like introducing advil well that's
00:46:54.860 we're getting with these corporate sponsorships you know it's everywhere oh my god imagine like
00:47:00.760 advil will pay for your child's early education if you name your child advil i mean yeah so so 0.97
00:47:08.420 so people love to like shit on and assess the naming choices okay so like imagine like this 0.97
00:47:14.300 little soul okay this little baby with like this deeply permeable energy field is like just join 0.99
00:47:20.160 the world and and one word one one sound one vibration okay of sounds has been applied and
00:47:27.700 connected to this this soul okay a single word a single name advil okay and then you have
00:47:34.680 the the couple's friends friends and co-workers advil can you believe it advil oh okay oh advil
00:47:44.800 well to call it Addy but you know well I'm gonna call it Edville because it's Edville they can't
00:47:49.880 name Fred all right it's like okay and I'm like you are just flying negative energy you may be
00:47:56.900 the very like the one intangible thing that is connected to that baby I love also maybe you want
00:48:05.500 a kid again you talking about the permeable force field of like it's also something amazing about
00:48:10.980 if you carry a child then it's you finally get to like take care of yourself for the first time in
00:48:16.480 your life in a way because you get to be allowed i can't because you know like that's huge yeah and 0.90
00:48:24.020 wrong it's so wrong if the only time a woman can say no or take the chair that's offered is if it's 0.95
00:48:28.960 like well i'm you know brewing advil here yeah or like yeah and then by the way the women aren't
00:48:38.140 saying no so the women are continuing to take on too much and then baby advil grows up with chronic
00:48:43.180 migraines yes we wanted to name her after her father advil so meet advilia yeah you know we
00:48:52.520 went with bayer yeah motrin kind of seems like a like a name yeah motrin motrin bayer advil i mean
00:49:02.820 Tylenol, Tylenol, Tylenol.
00:49:06.080 Ours is Pepto.
00:49:07.640 I was just going to say Pepto.
00:49:10.920 PeptoBismol does sound like a name.
00:49:14.620 Bismol.
00:49:15.540 I kind of in my mind, I'm like PeptoBismol and then one spoon of Milanta or 12 swoon after spoon of the pink stuff.
00:49:25.040 Do you remember that?
00:49:25.660 Can you imagine PeptoBismol seeing that ad? 1.00
00:49:28.080 Bastards. 1.00
00:49:29.920 The president. 1.00
00:49:31.580 PeptoBismol.
00:49:32.020 if they're talking about you
00:49:34.940 that it means you're worth something
00:49:36.260 gather around
00:49:37.800 guess what
00:49:39.820 yeah we are the pink stuff
00:49:42.900 and we work
00:49:44.160 yeah what do you got
00:49:46.400 you just described us
00:49:48.600 you just
00:49:49.920 we're the pink stuff
00:49:51.640 oh wow
00:49:53.600 ubiquitous in the home
00:49:55.260 that's so funny
00:49:56.840 okay so that was the psychic warfare
00:50:00.060 episode and all that that includes
00:50:02.000 We were, at the time, two women burning under the orange sky of Los Angeles while seeking to cleanse.
00:50:10.520 The only thing we had the option to cleanse, the interior, the soul, the energy field.
00:50:16.120 It's nice to feel united across this nation.
00:50:19.140 And perhaps for international waters, I don't know how podcasts, I don't know how the internet works.
00:50:24.780 We are predominantly broadcast in ocean vessels, to be clear.
00:50:29.280 Predominant audiences.
00:50:30.400 is ocean vessels, sub and surface. 1.00
00:50:33.640 I won't rest until there's a French poog,
00:50:35.960 until we're subtitled in French.
00:50:37.880 I will not sleep until we are profiled by Berlin today.
00:50:42.440 I want to be in the Paris Review.
00:50:44.920 So make that happen.
00:50:46.120 Thank you all.
00:50:46.840 Yeah.
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