Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - REMIX： Poog 101 Part Two

00:00:00.840 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:00:02.400 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:00:03.500 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

00:00:08.220 Two untamable intellects.

00:00:10.000 This is our hobby. 0.97

00:00:10.840 This is our hell.

00:00:11.700 This is our naked desire for free products.

00:00:14.000 This is POOG.

00:00:15.780 Hi everyone, so glad you loved POOG 101.

00:00:18.640 Here is our second volume of classic POOG moments.

00:00:21.760 Here comes POOG 101, part two.

00:00:25.340 The summer learning continues.

00:00:27.060 Please enjoy.

00:00:30.000 just quickly wanted to say my mother once was in an elevator i believe with mick jagger this is

00:00:41.480 like in the 60s okay yes it's just that idea of hyper celebrity in that way you're just in an

00:00:46.980 elevator but for someone else that was the day they you know rode the elevator with mick jagger

00:00:50.540 it's just i mean the the primacy of the elevator pitch as a concept right right i mean it's

00:00:57.120 literally the term for a you know a short pitch and under two minute pitch yeah and that's all

00:01:02.180 about you know getting in the oh you step in the elevator at the william morris talent agency right

00:01:08.620 and this is your chance or whatever it's like and you know what's so haunting about that is that

00:01:12.620 there's truth to it that's why it's a kind of persistent idea i know i know there is that thing

00:01:18.180 of like you flash a smile you do something wild and people go who's that kid get me them i need

00:01:24.760 whatever they have no i mean well i think i think you have that you have that magic absolutely okay 0.71

00:01:29.960 you are turn it on dazzle and they go holy shit i've never tasted it i need more okay they instantly 0.97

00:01:35.960 want more you are a chip okay you're a pringle you can't just have one i mean you can't have just one 0.96

00:01:41.080 oh my god i feel so loud which is so fascinating as an idea as a marketing campaign that i think

00:01:46.520 they've abandoned it pringles you know you can't once you pop you can't stop i guess or whatever

00:01:51.120 i forget which one i mean that's literally like like the truth of the addiction of you know grain

00:01:56.040 and sugar corn yeah okay they're they're yeah they're they're promoting their own corn disease

00:02:02.500 i mean it's like cigarette like you know like camel cigarettes once you start smoking them you

00:02:07.200 just won't be able to stop yeah totally it's like yeah i know it's a problem with chips do you enjoy

00:02:12.940 a pringle because i have something to say about him actually no i didn't think you would by the

00:02:18.360 when i was a kid sure you know you put the you make a duck mouth out of them you know you put

00:02:22.720 one yes you know you're familiar clowning clowning yeah yeah and the packaging is brilliant thank

00:02:29.040 you because each because that tube of the pringles and then each pringle is preserved

00:02:34.400 as kind of a holy sacrament if you will and so there's kind of this preciousness about the

00:02:42.320 individual chip that is smart no because take a can of pringles right empty them out into a

00:02:49.720 traditional big chip bag exactly shake it around fill it with air yeah good luck okay what do you

00:02:53.900 have i mean the baked lays the exactly and you think about the shape of a pringle which is almost

00:03:00.340 like i feel like the shape of a pringle verges on a kind of like sacred geometry right because it's

00:03:05.360 like yeah what even is is it like it's almost like a yeah what is that drawing i'm like yeah

00:03:09.200 yeah you're right i'm like there's like a wave function unfolding okay in the like no it is

00:03:15.380 poetic and the way that they all are stacked is like is remarkable then the stacking that's

00:03:20.420 so beautiful that there's this shape but they can fold in on themselves in that way that they

00:03:24.200 support each other in that shape every pringle carries another pringle i mean except for the

00:03:30.380 two on the end the heroes the two the one on the bottom the one on the bottom is like the witch

00:03:36.380 you know saying more weight more weight is like collapsing the witch is being tortured i mean

00:03:43.040 you know what i mean more weight more weight and then the pringle on the top i feel like is the

00:03:49.040 baby of the family that they're like we lift you up yeah exactly it's the aries of the group

00:03:54.360 yeah or like god imagine but and then all the pringles in the middle i mean they're just

00:03:58.280 i want to be in the middle baby you want to be the middle in the middle as a pringle i guess

00:04:03.100 that's what i think it's what everyone wants you want to be held up and pressed down on from below

00:04:06.740 simultaneously i want to be in the middle i want to be where it's at oh i want to be in the heat

00:04:10.800 of it feeling screaming pringles on both sides yeah yeah no absolutely the din of conversation

00:04:18.360 top pringle doesn't even know is it even a pringle maybe it might not be a pringle

00:04:23.360 it doesn't even know oh right because it carries nothing oh my god because the top pringle carries

00:04:29.940 nothing it does not realize it too is being carried you see what i'm saying because it

00:04:34.060 doesn't understand because it doesn't have to hold anyone no it's completely it's innocence

00:04:38.500 it's blinded by its own innocence it just believes we're all we're all held up yeah it's actually a

00:04:43.580 lonely experience being the top pringle bottom pringle and everyone talking behind you the

00:04:47.760 murmur behind you that you can barely participate in every pringle also hears the murmur behind it

00:04:53.940 right but they you only are capable of hearing the murmur once you understand once you mystically

00:05:00.400 perceive that there is carrying happening which you do not understand if you yourself do not carry

00:05:05.300 so that is like really heavy and then the bottom pringle

00:05:08.980 i feel every other pringle has consciousness of the group i think the bottom one is also

00:05:16.200 relegated to a kind of senseless i mean no one carries the bottom oh no but you know what the

00:05:20.920 bottom one has yeah as its friend the can the can by the way here's a question here's a huge

00:05:26.720 question how does the bottom of the can not break the cellular structure of that pringle and

00:05:31.200 therefore radiate upward cracking ricocheting up creating chaos because i have news for you

00:05:35.920 i don't recall an orthotic at the bottom of that can i do not recall support

00:05:42.040 wait maybe it's like no how jacqueline if you shake a pringle skin if you do one kind of violent

00:05:50.340 motion yeah yeah i guess they shatter but what is the transport are these are the trucks on springs

00:05:55.660 how are they transferring are they sharing how are they transporting these pringles

00:05:59.540 there's been some some sort of tragic deaths in the family that

00:06:13.440 you know have that quality at the funeral that is not just no it's not just the morning it's the

00:06:21.380 oh life well lived you know you know death is always sad but and but there you know it can

00:06:28.600 all be very six feet underish in a kind of like to eat after a funeral the way that feels to me

00:06:33.840 is so ecstatic you know what tell me like like well there's two versions there's one which is

00:06:39.860 they're like want to go get a burger okay there's that which i love and then like entering a diner

00:06:46.000 or something and just under the context of of death yeah then being in a diner and ordering

00:06:52.580 your favorite stuff whatever god that's good and then the other is sort of this disturbing

00:06:59.420 but oddly comforting like bagels at the synagogue thing i've experienced a couple times yeah the

00:07:05.820 thing that yeah have you ever been a pallbearer no but my eyes are widening because my i once

00:07:12.140 watched my father be a pallbearer and then i you know kind of like a celebrity of that like well 0.74

00:07:16.020 my dad was a pallbearer you know what the fuck did your dad do you know the celebrity at the 0.90

00:07:20.000 funeral is one of my absolute favorite topics i know okay because the closer you are to the death 0.99

00:07:27.120 the bigger your celebrity status is your day it's your special day yes and like fighting you know

00:07:33.360 of course the i mean i remember yeah like elbowing i remember like elbowing past people like kind of 0.94

00:07:38.120 like you know i'm the cousin i'm the granddaughter right i mean status fucking respect yeah grief

00:07:44.660 based status is major and then oh my god i've been a pallbearer a couple times and it's like 0.90

00:07:54.300 it's like one of these things in life where i'm like how is this like how is this always happening

00:08:01.660 because I felt like we're going to drop this thing like I was like this is not like me and

00:08:09.780 my cousins holding a coffin which is like what it's been a couple times oh my god that is I'm

00:08:13.920 like we're not strong no you can't give it to the kids yeah it's given to the kids and I remember

00:08:20.440 specifically I think it was I think it was my grandfather's funeral but we were like you know

00:08:26.340 holding the coffin and having to bring it right over the hole in the ground and like there were

00:08:31.760 these planks these wooden planks that were kind of there along the side of it to i don't know so

00:08:39.380 that that's what you walk on these planks so you're not on loose ground or something like

00:08:43.260 yeah you're gonna fall in and it was like rattling planks as we're all carrying something

00:08:47.220 way too heavy for us no and i i always think of it in my mind like i have a name for it's

00:08:53.540 a pallbearer shuffle okay i'll show it to you i'll show it to you it's very specific so like

00:09:01.140 to me it's like i'll hold something i'll hold something like uncomfortably like too big okay

00:09:08.200 okay because it's it's like you have to so to be clear it's like swift rapid movements of the

00:09:27.480 feet so it's not as much ground as possible yeah yes it's rapid shuffling and like we've seen

00:09:36.940 in you know i always like a movie where a corpse rolls out of a coffin that's like like i'm just

00:09:42.220 like yeah like i'm in yeah and it's yeah it's just it felt really it's just i don't think there

00:09:49.320 should be such high risk should we really be risking no no that and by the way and then you're

00:09:57.760 potentially putting imagine the weight no pun intended of that on somebody like i dropped the

00:10:02.940 body i mean it's just the horror of that seems like a huge risk are you aware of you know so 0.98

00:10:09.440 jews jewish there's an idea that the coffin should be plain simple a wood box cedar yeah it's like 1.00

00:10:17.520 maybe it's not cedar and it's like it's cedar cedar's so fragrant yeah cedar almost yeah like 1.00

00:10:24.040 keep the mods how do you store your cashmere sweaters how do you store your corpses yeah

00:10:28.240 say it or say it or say it or yeah what's your experience with open casket well that's the thing 0.87

00:10:37.160 as so as a jew same thing you don't really get the open casket generally thank god and so the 0.95

00:10:45.120 only time i've experienced open casket are um other people's relatives and i mean open casket

00:10:55.420 is is like wild psychedelic i mean i i've only seen it once but i was a child and i remember

00:11:04.120 going with my parents to this funeral and then there was the open casket and there was the person

00:11:09.320 and it was like yeah just psychedelic unimaginable and i wanted to run and of course what i wanted to

00:11:17.500 do is just run and stare i wanted to stare i wanted to be alone in a room with the casket

00:11:22.100 ideally to be able to just freely stare but you can't to not have to perform like what yeah no

00:11:29.500 they're dead and that's them like what could possibly be the problem there is no I mean to

00:11:35.060 me there's no greater intimacy because then to see someone's dead body right oh my god I'm imagining

00:11:42.780 that you like you I would allow you to see my dead body that is the ultimate vulnerability

00:11:50.480 my cousin rachel once said like because at one of our family members funerals like

00:11:57.820 you know we were taking turns throwing dirt on the grave but but actually

00:12:02.740 like actually filling in the hole completely like shoveling it right because that's like 0.99

00:12:08.500 i don't know again i think that's part of the jewish thing is like it's cool there's like the 0.76

00:12:11.940 gesture version like everyone's supposed to throw some dirt on i believe the actual there's the

00:12:16.440 actual and i like really took to it no i think yeah yeah i like like really took to it and found

00:12:22.640 it like like i'm like it was like six feet under yeah like influenced but i was like like yeah like

00:12:29.120 this actually feels like sort of sacred and sort of beautiful i agree completely and even though

00:12:35.560 it's i remember my grandfather non-jew talking about experiencing that at the jewish funerals

00:12:41.180 and being like god you know like so horrifying like dirt hit in the casket and i'm like no i

00:12:47.600 love it and so i i don't know i took something and was really really getting into it and i was

00:12:52.120 like working i was like shoveling intensely like like like i'm gonna finish it up with the boys

00:12:57.200 because there's something crass about like well let's walk like let's head back to blah blah blah 0.96

00:13:03.240 these guys will finish filling it in yeah the women kind of with their umbrellas arms linked

00:13:08.660 kind of walk away toward the buffet and the men are left yeah umbrellas and arms linked is genius

00:13:16.020 yeah it's like to finish the job like it's very weird to walk away

00:13:23.200 but anyway it's like and my cousin rachel was like like saw it and was like

00:13:28.100 i want you to do that for me one day or something you know what i mean

00:13:38.660 how do you feel about does this movie there are places i dream oh my god yeah

00:13:46.800 so in my life that was one of my the first moments i remember i used to turn that on

00:13:57.320 when i would hurt myself with music yes because i love to hurt myself with music and that was one

00:14:01.600 of the first times as a child to go oh here we go baby and just cry and get to the loss

00:14:08.640 emotional this is sentimentality out the window turning that on feeling my own i remember the 0.95

00:14:14.080 feeling having my own childhood slip away yeah of course i was a fucking child and i was going 0.99

00:14:18.820 you're gonna age everyone's gonna die oh well all those songs fucked me up um hold on to 16 1.00

00:14:26.700 as long as you can change is gonna come real soon and you're women wait what the fuck is that 1.00

00:14:33.560 jack and diane who little ditty about jack and diane two men who the hell doing best they can 1.00

00:14:42.420 who's jack and diane 0.59

00:14:44.040 in jackie's car what is that you freak life goes off

00:14:54.020 there she is there's my girl we've become but i'm laughing at we've become nostalgia podcasters

00:15:02.060 I know, we've become our greatest fear.

00:15:04.820 Men and women. 0.99

00:15:06.520 I was like, from 12 on,

00:15:08.340 I was worried about...

00:15:09.900 I was worried about

00:15:13.980 16's approach and then 16

00:15:15.980 leaving. Oh, I know.

00:15:17.900 16 candles. I was like, so death

00:15:19.940 is at 16. Yeah.

00:15:21.760 And then, wait, there's a

00:15:23.840 17 one. Fuck, what does this say? 1.00

00:15:25.840 The one that's like, 17 years old. 1.00

00:15:28.060 She's doing fine,

00:15:29.760 but not for long. I don't know

00:15:31.580 what these ditties are that one was fake okay that one was fake you literally don't know jack

00:15:37.300 and diane i'm sorry little ditty i don't know what that is this will be a fun game this will

00:15:42.580 be a fun game okay this will be fun for everyone oh they'll love it kate trust me they know

00:15:47.500 let's take see how long it takes okay for for any recognition and i swear to god

00:15:53.320 okay this is not something where that that others are gonna be alienated let's go

00:15:57.300 Let's go.

00:15:58.500 A little ditty about Jack and Diane.

00:16:02.420 Two American kids growing up in the heartland.

00:16:06.720 Jackie's going to be a football star.

00:16:11.000 Diane's debutante backseat of Jackie's car.

00:16:15.360 Soaking on jell-dogs outside the day's breeze.

00:16:19.660 Diane's sitting on Jackie's lap, got his hand between her knees.

00:16:23.460 Jackie says, hey, Diane, let's run off behind a shady tree. 0.87

00:16:27.300 Drew off those Bobby Brooks. 0.99

00:16:29.120 Let me do what I please. 1.00

00:16:30.340 I don't know what the fuck you're singing. 1.00

00:16:33.140 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:16:34.440 Life goes on.

00:16:36.920 Long after the thrill of living is gone.

00:16:40.980 No.

00:16:41.600 Oh, yeah.

00:16:42.540 I said life goes on.

00:16:45.640 Long after the thrill of living is gone.

00:16:48.640 I don't know it.

00:16:49.980 I don't know it.

00:16:50.540 Literally nothing?

00:16:51.200 I don't know it.

00:16:52.520 All right.

00:16:52.740 Now, I just want to take a minute.

00:16:53.760 I just confirm that our two producers

00:16:56.140 are familiar with the song, have heard it.

00:16:58.440 Okay, so what's wrong with me?

00:16:59.560 I just want to say my renditions

00:17:02.720 was like a caricature.

00:17:04.720 Sure. By exaggeration

00:17:06.400 to attempt to communicate.

00:17:08.280 I think it was pristine. 1.00

00:17:10.840 Fuck. What's wrong with me that I can't 1.00

00:17:12.800 locate it?

00:17:14.000 I got another one. I'm going to come up with the

00:17:16.440 next song that I think is the exact sort of

00:17:18.480 same thing as that

00:17:20.160 and see if you know it.

00:17:21.940 You are so cute and lit up right now that I just

00:17:24.440 want you to keep going.

00:17:26.140 are you familiar with free fallen of course well of course she says free fallen tom petty i mean

00:17:34.180 that's like they play that at like the airport on a loop yep jack and diane is not dissimilar

00:17:40.780 i don't know nothing with i mean little ditty about jack and diane i mean and i'm not one of

00:17:51.640 these people. Okay. I don't know how I can't, I don't know where my phone is. It's fine. I'll

00:17:56.620 look it up in my own time. Yeah. Right. Oh, we should go to break.

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00:18:28.060 Something disturbing about plastics, the way, no, it doesn't just disappear when it seems to disappear.

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00:23:00.980 and conditions i have something to say which is that i was traveling the other day and i

00:23:10.800 got in an altercation with a fellow and I was able to yell at a man and okay so I'll tell you

00:23:18.020 what happened all right let me walk you through it I'll stop you when I think there's not enough

00:23:23.720 detail I'll slow this baby down all right okay okay let's go let's go so I'm arriving from

00:23:29.600 I've been in New York for months doing my show I'm arriving back in LA I have a lot of bags

00:23:35.200 And by the way, folks, I went and purchased in a way suitcase in a hurry because I had could not fit the stuff.

00:23:43.760 I went into a way I got the. The big one, not the hugest one, but not the carry on flex, the size up, whatever.

00:23:53.140 It's great. I know the one. So I run out. I get that. I'm like, OK, I'm doing it.

00:23:58.660 I have so I have a huge what I'm trying to say is I had two really big bags, a small bag, a shoulder bag.

00:24:04.380 i too much stuff i'm trying to justify right now that i when i landed in la i got a curbside pickup

00:24:10.020 from uber because i couldn't manage the shuttle on my own it was 11 p.m are you saying that you

00:24:15.480 just had you described having so many bags to justify getting an uber yeah like not taking

00:24:21.680 the shuttle it's crazy what who cares to the uber center at lax we have to take the shuttle remember

00:24:28.080 you've seen me take the shuttle yes yes to take this shuttle to like the the area and it was

00:24:33.220 crowded whatever so i thought you know what i'm just doing it i'm getting curbside and so this

00:24:38.900 so i'm waiting the uber driver calls me he's like there's a lot of traffic at the airport i'm 10

00:24:42.780 minutes away sorry i was like that's fine i'm waiting i'm waiting i'm see the car start to

00:24:48.200 pull up and i see check the license plate oh it's my car i start to struggle to get my bags over to

00:24:53.780 it and then i see this guy who's loading all his stuff i can hear it and i can feel it i can feel

00:24:58.520 the struggle. I can feel all of it. Oh, you can't imagine. The bag loses. No, when the bag slips

00:25:04.620 from the shoulder. Contact with my shoulder slips down. I curse it. Yeah. So then I'm seeing this

00:25:10.360 man loading his stuff into my Uber with his girlfriend or what have you. I go, oh, no. And

00:25:16.880 I go, oh, maybe I'm wrong. And then I look down and go, no, that is my car. So I walk over. He's

00:25:21.420 in. His girlfriend's in. He's in. He's about to close the door. And I say, so politely, I go,

00:25:27.160 yes oh overly classic oh the oh no right yeah oh i go oh even though you'd known for my voice up

00:25:35.160 10 octaves of course i go oh sorry i think i even said sorry maybe i said all right oh oh um i think

00:25:42.120 this is my uber yep and he goes it's not he goes it's not and slams the door and i go wait slams

00:25:52.420 it from the outside and he's about to move around to his side because he just put his his no sorry

00:25:56.940 he's in he goes the the window okay got it pulls it closed pulls it closed he pulls it closed okay 0.99

00:26:02.140 he looks at me he goes it's not and slams the door and I go Jesus asshole and I said I don't 1.00

00:26:07.160 know who the fuck raised you I didn't say fuck I said I don't know who raised you but learned some 1.00

00:26:10.520 manners oh my gosh wait hold on I mean hold on full-throated whose uber is it and he goes 1.00

00:26:16.680 don't you want to hear the rest of the story I'm sorry I thought I thought you were done okay go

00:26:22.060 on oh i'm not done so i'm trying to think of what the first contact was or no maybe no he goes it's 0.96

00:26:28.100 not he slams i go jesus asshole and he goes and the window's open what he no yeah and then he goes 0.97

00:26:33.860 what and i go i don't know who raised you but you should really learn some manners you should learn 0.99

00:26:40.020 how to talk to people with some decency no and he goes hell yeah yeah okay and then the and the uber

00:26:46.760 starts to drive away what i look down it was my uber okay so i look down and i see on the app it

00:26:54.040 says heading to my address and i go yeah i knew it so i immediately call the driver the car is is

00:26:58.820 gone not super quick but it's like you know half a block down his name kate her name kate so i call

00:27:05.980 the driver i call the driver and i go hi and he goes that's and the driver's apologetic oh my god

00:27:13.540 I'm so sorry I go that's okay I'm and he's like can you come this way I go yeah so I so then I

00:27:19.980 start lugging again the huge bag the other huge bag the carry-on wheelie and my shoulder bag I

00:27:25.560 and by the way I pick up the pace because I go I want to see this course you don't want him 0.98

00:27:30.780 and I'm literally I'm not joking in the night almost cackling I say out loud I fucking can't

00:27:36.920 wait to see him I'm I'm practically skipping yes yes so I get there the driver he's already

00:27:42.880 unloaded the stuff the driver's like I'm so sorry that was their name and yeah no no I don't see

00:27:48.080 him yet and I go that's okay it's not your fault and then I I literally drop my bags at the back

00:27:54.280 to he's gonna you know I drop my bags I go looking for him I walk to the front I'm looking around

00:28:01.980 I see him what I interpret as cowering because there was a this like big column he's like way

00:28:09.160 in the back there's always a column at lax i'll tell you that much and he's okay he's back at the

00:28:13.560 column i know him well i go and i go and i put my hands in a prayer position i bow and i go have a 1.00

00:28:18.620 i go thank you so much asshole have a great night no you said asshole again yes oh did i say asshole 0.99

00:28:25.260 maybe no maybe i didn't say asshole i said i said no no i think i just i i grasped i clasped my hands 0.99

00:28:30.380 yes thank you and i went thank you so much have a great night and then and the girlfriend goes like 0.92

00:28:36.680 all right that's enough and i go teach your boy and i go put i think i said like what did i say 0.93

00:28:41.980 something like teach your boyfriend how to like i what did i fucking say i said something about 0.92

00:28:46.980 like yeah yeah something like that like i wish it i wish i remember what it was but it was something 0.95

00:28:51.560 good baby and i felt and when i tell you i felt so vindicated and so alive and so good because

00:28:57.220 i will the only circumstance i will do that if you are so outwardly aggressively rude yes and

00:29:04.720 it's like there's just no no and by the way you were wrong like you should have you made like

00:29:11.540 I mean there really was there I would have okay he was cowering in a way that you felt he was

00:29:17.880 hoping to not have an interaction and by the way there's something else I did too there's something

00:29:22.440 else I did too and then later I was reflecting on the story I was like did I go too hard

00:29:26.900 but then but then I get in the car I'm laughing with the uber driver the uber driver goes he

00:29:32.220 offered me he said i said kate and the girl i guess said yes and then she was like and then he

00:29:37.600 just like offered me cash so he did he was he was purposely trying he knew i have a lot to say about

00:29:43.360 that's not cool so his technique we gotta watch out for his technique we're gonna discuss his

00:29:47.900 technique in a second don't forget okay okay so then so then and i said to the driver the driver

00:29:52.740 and i are laughing and i go and i go i really don't talk to people like that but he was just

00:29:57.160 being it was just outrageous it was so rude i couldn't believe it and the driver said no no he

00:30:01.060 was being you know that's crazy so then we're pulling up he gets in his other car so let's

00:30:05.520 like oh by the way the guy just if you had waited three more minutes i see the guy in his car they

00:30:10.060 pull off i'm up next to them no two cars next to each other yeah yeah and i stick and i flip them

00:30:17.100 off because i know he's there and my uber driver's loving it he's laughing we're having fun

00:30:22.040 god we go into the night well there's the i mean this that to be able to enjoy that with the uber

00:30:29.220 driving now is your middle finger right now manicured by the way then so you know what you

00:30:33.460 did you know you made this guy unload your bags you know you made him put him the bags in unload

00:30:40.900 them then he had to put mine in like it's just like anyway no well actually what's interesting

00:30:45.500 people to imagine a wedding without a manicure can you imagine anyway keep going oh I can imagine

00:30:52.120 okay uh no I just it was more that I was imagining like you I feel like your feminine fingers like

00:30:57.880 I feel like you have like a tend of a longer fingernail.

00:31:00.840 And to me, it's sort of like.

00:31:02.720 They're short, though.

00:31:04.000 It's sort of the original.

00:31:06.040 But what you think is short that I still think is long because mine just.

00:31:09.900 There's no way.

00:31:10.920 There's no way.

00:31:11.500 Oh, good, good.

00:31:12.060 OK, good, good.

00:31:13.240 I mean, not good, but they're nice.

00:31:15.220 Beautiful.

00:31:16.680 But I just picture this sort of rounded 80s.

00:31:19.620 To me, Flipping the Bird has a certain nail from 80s film and television, I guess.

00:31:27.220 80s film oh yeah a very yeah the the the finger and the nail like but anyway i see it very clearly

00:31:33.640 and it just felt i i was just flying high i was like do not do not and what is his i wonder if

00:31:41.800 his move is i mean the cash thing is very very weird because that's just so they lied to get in

00:31:49.340 because he said they said yes and i guess they said yeah i think his technique they're in there

00:31:53.980 is you just grab anything you can get okay this is what I'm wondering about you grab he thinks

00:31:58.280 you can grab he thinks okay he's like you grab anything you can get and once you're in

00:32:01.880 I guess he he's about ask for forgiveness later or whatever yeah or sorry I'm just fascinated by

00:32:10.920 what the the move is it's like he's pulling it's it's it's oh oops you misheard and then

00:32:18.260 what can you do but the thing is you but the problem is it's not like it's not like like how

00:32:24.600 do you fix that other than with cash well no no so here's the thing so the cash thing's like well

00:32:29.840 that's probably actually a better deal for the for the driver he just gets cash right right so

00:32:34.120 that i understand but here's what's weird to me you rejected i'm standing in front of you with

00:32:39.000 16 bags alone and you're going this isn't yours so you're actually do you know what i mean like

00:32:44.140 let's just say there's an empty there's a car floating around yeah and you're like uh and no 0.86

00:32:48.180 one's claiming it right still fucked up but like you're actually looking at me going oh that's mine 0.90

00:32:53.340 and going and yeah right and like brazen rudely being like brazenly going it's not and slamming 0.97

00:32:59.500 the door like no it's no very interesting and i wish i could describe how this guy look do you

00:33:06.260 think he thought it was his do i think that i don't well here's the reason why because at first

00:33:12.620 i thought it's an honest mistake you check down you check the license plate right his brazen

00:33:17.420 his knowledge that it wasn't but then the driver telling me that he offered him cash i'm like no

00:33:22.100 he was just trying to he just was gonna take it and by the way let's say there was an emergency

00:33:26.420 take it if he goes sorry my wife's going into labor sorry we have an emergency sorry if i go 0.99

00:33:30.320 take it i don't give a shit but you're just you just you can't you can't no you no i mean that's 0.99

00:33:36.040 that's wild and um he was cowering behind the pillar fascinated those pillars he thought i 0.99

00:33:42.540 he thought he would never see me again he thought he wasn't gonna have to deal with me well guess

00:33:46.780 what doll well right you're gonna see this face boomerang is coming back around this mop of curly

00:33:53.360 hair and he looked i'm like who does he look like if i had to compare him to someone actor

00:33:59.800 who's caitlin jenner's son who's that guy the like normal looking guy um brody brody jenner 0.98

00:34:10.940 He was like, he looked like a less attractive Brody Jenner, but he looked like that kind of a like guy who's like, I get my dick sucked at 3 p.m., 9 p.m., 2 a.m. and 8 a.m. 0.99

00:34:25.660 And no one. And you better not be off schedule. 0.99

00:34:29.960 Sorry. The way you rolled up those numbers, I actually thought was mathematically impressive, not just due to them, I think, being equally spaced.

00:34:37.540 but like I don't know if I can name four numbers that I don't know like name four numbers that

00:34:42.840 quick like four six two three okay I guess it is decent I did it no but I said two three at the

00:34:47.960 end I panicked and did one right after the other like I was like wow yeah Kate you've got it there

00:34:52.720 you've got more than you know you've got math wise but rolling away in the uber I was like I

00:34:59.640 I told my mom she was thrilled

00:35:03.060 i've been concussed and come back around since last poog yeah let's go into the concussion

00:35:16.180 because i haven't even because we were texting about recording i think and then

00:35:19.720 you sent a voice note from inside the shower completely inaudible no i was actually uh

00:35:26.200 convalescing at the apartment's pool oh that was a pool i went there for peace

00:35:32.500 um and on that day they were drilling like they were repairing the pool so it was like okay I

00:35:39.880 thought you were in the shower because I know you take the pool I mean I know you take your

00:35:43.380 phone in the shower so I thought you were in the shower okay catch me up I mean obviously

00:35:48.600 if it's remotely interesting I mean it's pretty wild to well let's see so folks are familiar

00:35:56.660 with my signature visor yeah and i wear it pretty much every time i leave the house

00:36:04.180 even when you know it's those late late in the day rays so it's about to set but i know it's you

00:36:10.960 know you know go into a movie take it and that mean knowing that when i leave in darkness i'll

00:36:17.540 have a visor with me that i have to throw over my shoulder okay yeah and it's one of the only

00:36:23.820 things that actually covers the face um and so i'm walking along now i'll be honest i was not

00:36:31.180 walking to air one okay that wasn't the destination but chris and i are walking together side by side

00:36:37.660 we happen to be on the sidewalk that leads to air one and it's a particularly narrow sidewalk

00:36:44.140 on the side of the grove know it well you know they built out the grove because they built out

00:36:49.620 Nordstrom. They gave Nordstrom a couple extra

00:36:51.680 feet in their bathroom

00:36:53.360 so that

00:36:54.780 it is narrow, that

00:36:57.720 sidewalk. We have to go single file

00:36:59.680 if someone's coming. Anyway.

00:37:01.860 And I'm walking along

00:37:03.980 at a nice

00:37:05.800 clip. It's not really

00:37:07.780 about speed. It's about walking with

00:37:09.860 just the force of absolutely

00:37:11.660 believing there's nothing ahead of you. I mean, it's as simple

00:37:13.720 as that.

00:37:15.900 And all of a sudden, I sort of think like

00:37:19.500 buildings are falling around like i think something has happened like a beam

00:37:24.400 from construction has like come down on me and chris okay all i know is is there is a slamming

00:37:32.520 in my head that feels like the most uh traumatic thing that's ever happened to my head yeah okay

00:37:42.100 and i go down no like i fall on my knees okay and i'm like crying not yet no pretty quick okay

00:37:56.300 like almost immediately but i'm not even crying from pain this is the joke like shock i think so

00:38:03.080 yeah totally and i'm in a strange state where in my mind i am like this is an emergency something

00:38:09.940 something fucking crazy has happened like this is not just whatever and i'm down there and then

00:38:17.320 like you know i'm immediately crying just like like like just you know what i mean like it's 0.96

00:38:23.840 very weird totally tell me this other people around what's going on no we're on that lone

00:38:28.320 narrow sidewalk just me and chris and he's like show me like show me your head show me your head

00:38:33.980 right so okay i should tell the people you're like don't take the visor limb of a tree there

00:38:39.220 was a limb a limb of a tree now my family kept using the word branch when the story got retold

00:38:45.160 and i had to keep correcting everyone to a limb of a tree because there's a big difference a

00:38:49.380 branch the difference a branch to me is smaller smaller thinner yeah a limb is like is a thick

00:38:55.940 trunk does not move yeah you know what i mean got it and there's a thick yeah that is a thick limb

00:39:01.040 you know i guess as thick as a coffee can okay like a maxwell house probably stretching across

00:39:08.880 the sidewalk in a way that just me at five, seven walking straight is going to slam into it.

00:39:16.360 Model, supermodel, strutting. Really? God, you're five, seven. That's unbelievable.

00:39:22.980 Anyway, keep going. What are you? Five, three and a half.

00:39:28.640 To fight for the half. Yeah. Okay. Keep going. It's funny. So now because my head was lightly

00:39:35.960 tipped down and I'm wearing the visor I simply could not see it and I also when engaged in

00:39:43.400 conversation while walking say with Chris right I almost do not perceive my surroundings okay

00:39:51.440 and it's like the ADD hyper focus on like I'm seeing in my mind's eye what we're talking about

00:39:57.500 yeah and it's becoming a hazard okay I want photographic evidence of the tree oh we've got

00:40:05.340 we've got it okay like text it later because we sue the grove yeah can you imagine technically

00:40:11.640 there was a professional loss like i had to i had to cancel some shit anyway so i mean i'm making 0.70

00:40:18.580 you know so it was a limb that i walked in and i'm down i'm crying chris is like let me see your 0.74

00:40:25.520 head and it's and here it begins here begins the uh validation of illness or injury okay and the

00:40:32.640 comedy of you know my theory about anytime you take your temperature on some level you're hoping

00:40:36.620 for a temperature because you're looking for confirmation of what you fear totally so it's

00:40:41.720 like let me see your head and like i'm like maybe my head is like open you know what i mean or

00:40:46.120 whatever like pouring blood i kind of know it's not but like and it's like there's what many would

00:40:51.680 call nary a mark okay so i'm like literally nothing and it's not it doesn't even really

00:41:00.520 hurt like it's not like oh god it's pounding you know what I mean like I mean I kind of can't

00:41:08.500 remember like a little bit but I was like I was like really stunned and then we strolled away

00:41:14.280 I mean we didn't stroll away we started to walk away and I was like like I don't know reflecting

00:41:20.940 on it and so and so being like I don't know if I'm okay like maybe we should go to the hospital

00:41:25.220 I was like pretty sure like I was like I was like thought I needed an ambulance and you know I'm not 0.96

00:41:30.180 hypo yeah yeah totally at all right yeah yeah but you hear these fucking stories oh don't get me 0.97

00:41:39.160 fucking started i mean i'll never forget the my the big ones any head for me any hit on the head 0.99

00:41:45.560 and i've only had small ones thank god yeah i'm always like well permanent brain damage i mean 0.98

00:41:50.180 we all know about the guy who invented the miracle pillow or whatever who's the guy was it him what's

00:41:55.680 the miracle pillow was it him when he went to sleep that kind of story no no what happened was

00:41:59.420 he it was something like that like he was in an airplane well this is what i think he's on a 0.98

00:42:03.580 fucking airplane and somebody was taking their luggage out bonked him on the head no no he's 0.98

00:42:08.320 like don't worry about it dead so we get the pattern here right bonk you're dead yeah it's 0.99

00:42:15.840 yeah it's so do not underestimate the power just because there's no yeah bruise like i knocked my

00:42:22.520 head on the corner of my shelf over there. Thank you, Burrow. Love you, Burrow. Love my office

00:42:29.300 shelves. Yeah. Okay. My index shelves and knocked my head on it. And there's like, like a week ago

00:42:35.300 and there's like a bruise from that, but it was just like, I felt how surface it was. It was like

00:42:39.380 the corner. Okay. This was deep reverberation. Okay. This was so deep. And, and, and so I was

00:42:49.120 like so yeah and it was so fucked up the way that there was no yeah there's nothing like the way 0.88

00:42:56.460 that there's almost no pain and nothing is like more suspicious to me yeah because i'm like these 0.97

00:43:01.480 are the kind of bonks that kill because you're like oh i'm fine i'm like this is exactly the 0.74

00:43:10.420 kind of like freaky nature of the kind of thing someone wouldn't sorry i had my mouth full yeah 0.64

00:43:16.200 so bonks that kill we're kind of like assessing we're we're kind of just assessing and i'm sort

00:43:22.760 of like and it's like that would be an episode of television like we used to do like car crashes

00:43:28.160 bonks that kill oh you do serious oh like you have to like pull ring yeah yeah like so like

00:43:33.820 those survivals like i survived those shows i love what's horrible is people who don't are

00:43:38.700 i mean for bonks that kill it's mostly i think the people are dead oh right right it's more

00:43:43.740 and friends and family friends and family just like in the morning like no no no no all week at

00:43:52.300 bloomingdale's okay all week trips to bloomingdale's to try to find the outfit and then nothing and

00:43:59.340 then let's pop by cheat tj maxx because they're going on television do you understand wait why

00:44:04.040 am i confused help me help me help me i don't understand i'll bring you in i'll bring you in

00:44:08.060 what i'm saying is so you watch like the produced show right i watched i'm just saying this

00:44:13.660 in this version right it's like the friends and family of the person who has died and that's why

00:44:18.440 they're on tv saying she went to bloomingdale being interviewed yeah no no and they're being

00:44:22.180 interviewed right yeah now when you're watching the show you just cut to them in serious with

00:44:28.200 serious music and they're talking right and it's sort of intense and dignified due to producing

00:44:34.240 but that morning like they were feverishly styling their hair they were all week choosing

00:44:41.620 their outfit you see what i'm saying yeah some might have been like like getting a facial trying

00:44:46.120 to slim down you know yeah some might have been like like it's like i've got bonks like hill next

00:44:52.640 week so talking about your aunt so yes not gonna have the tiramisu yeah yeah yeah you might recognize

00:45:02.020 me bonks like hill what yeah just imagine oh you might imagine someone like kill yeah oh no no

00:45:08.820 they're like, what do I know you from? Bonks would kill. Probably bonks. 0.99

00:45:20.400 Why am I so afraid of my own interiority, Jacqueline? What's in there? You know,

00:45:24.640 it's like, what am I? Oh God. And I have to say something. I almost can't talk about this on POOG

00:45:30.640 because it's, or just, I, it's almost like, I don't want to talk about this at all because it's

00:45:34.820 like it's some it's um as you can tell i'm sort of in this like inarticulate like swamp land of

00:45:40.820 it right now and i'm i'm coming i'm i feel like i'm really reckoning with like what i've lost

00:45:45.320 oh wow the years i've lost in kind of a way that i'm like that's okay i can forgive myself

00:45:50.260 because it's um this is you know this um you've lost some industry right social media is actually

00:45:55.740 a propaganda term it's not social media it's an industry and it's um and data labor is real and

00:46:01.780 And we've all, I mean, it's just like, it's a fucking crisis and we need 12 step for social 0.88

00:46:07.980 media addiction and we don't have it. And it's, it's, it's a, if you actually, if you really start 0.61

00:46:13.260 to think about it too much, it becomes so overwhelming and depressing that you just

00:46:16.100 open Instagram again. Yeah. You just about open Instagram again and go, well, this is,

00:46:20.460 you know, because also, and the main myth, I'll just say this, the, the main myth and like most

00:46:26.280 pernicious lie propagated by social, the social industry is probably that you can't not do it.

00:46:31.780 Right. Because even I and there's there's like a there's an argument for like, well, my industry, which is real.

00:46:36.540 I will, of course, not delete my account because I need to post about tickets that I'm trying to sell to my live show or I have to promote things.

00:46:43.480 And I'm like, OK, I have admitted that I'm powerless over this force.

00:46:47.360 And so I don't know how to engage with it in moderation yet.

00:46:50.340 But I will. I actually it's urgent that I develop a way to do that.

00:46:54.080 By the way, cut to me scrolling for the next 67 years.

00:46:56.880 I mean, completely like I just want to say.

00:46:58.580 but but i don't think i'm going to stating this now um the vulnerability of stating like seemingly

00:47:05.380 reckoning with an addiction like publicly almost or you know to friends and and hags it's like

00:47:13.200 there's this oh god and then you're gonna see me years well at least no one can see you scroll

00:47:17.540 technically um but it's like i always had the fear about if i went to overeaters anonymous

00:47:22.720 i don't know they're just gonna see me in the window of the italian restaurant like

00:47:28.580 coming back from the meeting just like bent over i don't know like they'll i mean at least you

00:47:34.160 have to still eat it's not like if you're caught in a restaurant you're

00:47:38.040 you're out of the club um yeah but wait wait pull me back to where you were because i have so much

00:47:45.520 to say one because you go okay how could i reckon with social media right you go how i've admitted

00:47:50.760 that i'm powerless yeah how and and the first thought was like well in order to manage you know

00:47:58.840 you have if you have to for your business promote whatever how do you go in there without going in

00:48:04.880 there oh you you get someone else to do it for you you do content planning okay or whatever you

00:48:10.120 have a little calendar of all your announcements okay and and someone else posts them but wait

00:48:15.260 wait i have more i have more yeah please this is how it always happens for me then i start going

00:48:18.760 well what if you could make yourself your own assistant and what okay and then you go all right

00:48:22.920 what if I create a second self that is emotionally detached I put on my emotional detached hat and I

00:48:32.080 mean that literally folks I mean that literally you know like oh let me put on my blah blah hat

00:48:36.640 I'm like get a hat get a woven cotton hat okay put it on and then and then adopt a persona

00:48:44.440 okay and and head in like okay um okay Kate I'm going in oh my god the hat is brilliant

00:48:53.660 we need brilliant well I remember like I'm only allowed I'm not kidding you as usual your

00:48:59.480 brilliance has freed me okay I'm going to buy a hat and when I'm on Instagram I have to wear that

00:49:07.500 okay me too this is actually huge and actually now it's becoming a little bit more of like a

00:49:12.960 punishment you know what i mean like like as it should be right where originally i was thinking

00:49:19.020 of it more like okay we're creating a secondary self that tolerates discomfort and isn't emotionally

00:49:24.040 attached which actually will bring up because there is an element of that in the war of art

00:49:28.560 which is about turning pro and actually his second book or one of his books is called turning pro

00:49:33.040 and there's a thing about almost detaching a little bit from the angst and just like you know 0.80

00:49:38.640 like showing up and just doing your fucking work whatever showing up showing up to the page how to 0.91

00:49:42.880 be miserable as he say as he says i love it well like learn how to be learning how to be no but 0.99

00:49:47.940 but the the assistant thing the detachment of that you're a genius as usual and i'm buying the hat

00:49:54.240 because here's the one the one model for this future version of myself yes i thought about is

00:49:59.240 maybe i allow myself like on sunday that's the lord's day i know i was just gonna say i think

00:50:06.240 Like, or like Monday, like Monday, Monday, you get to log into social media, you know,

00:50:12.400 Monday, I check my messages, whatever I post, what I have to post.

00:50:15.620 It doesn't have to be Monday. 0.97

00:50:16.580 I just mean like there was one day a week you save shit you have to do for one day a 0.98

00:50:20.440 week. 0.99

00:50:20.620 Totally.

00:50:21.220 And, and it's like in the morning and in the evening and get out.

00:50:25.100 And I think I've said this on a past POOG that like, I feel like you have like the metaphor

00:50:29.520 in my mind that's been helpful is like, think of it like a burning building, go in and get 0.99

00:50:32.900 what you have to do and get the fuck out. 0.99

00:50:34.440 because I was literally I'm such an asshole to be like did I provide that metaphor to you 1.00

00:50:37.900 because my my my I that's exactly how I treat it okay it's a hot potato okay it's a it's you dip 1.00

00:50:45.780 in and run okay you get in there you post you need a thing and you try to get the fuck out

00:50:50.740 I mean anytime your thumb your thumb and even just now as I'm modeled scrolling okay with my thumb

00:50:56.820 I felt a pain I felt an ache from the muscle now I don't actually do that much scrolling

00:51:01.940 because it feels like the second I start to it's it's the it's like scrolling is truly

00:51:10.420 handing over your consciousness right to formally being like cable television whatever where you

00:51:16.660 where you channel surf okay channel surfing right had a quality of that like let me just

00:51:22.540 right and see what hits with no with no choice right no consciousness and then now we've moved

00:51:30.380 to like streaming whatever and you have to choose at very least you have to choose i mean even if

00:51:34.880 you're just scrolling through the options you have to choose but or you're searching for the thing

00:51:37.760 you want to see right yeah but then we've recreated something where we surf and hand over our

00:51:42.400 consciousness like i mean like like even like going on twitter and like scrolling through people you

00:51:48.940 follow it's like let's see what everyone i know has come up with to tweet today it's like that

00:51:55.320 sucks anyway so it's like handing over your consciousness to others thoughts and going

00:51:59.900 I'll take them whatever it is throw it in my head yeah just dump it right here anything's 0.97

00:52:05.980 better than what I have in here exactly wait but I want to tell yourself should the hat be

00:52:12.440 uncomfortable okay like should the hat be 15 pounds yeah I think it's actually an interesting

00:52:20.460 idea oh and i got another idea i think the hat should be a little too tight we're selling i have

00:52:25.260 a huge head so most hats are going to be tight on me we should sell them this is a huge idea well

00:52:30.020 yeah this is a huge idea because utterly comical um i had to measure my head the other day because

00:52:36.060 i was actually thinking about getting a hat and um not just my visors you know my and i think it's

00:52:43.000 like a good fucking 23 inches or something which you know yeah you can certainly you can see clearly 0.64

00:52:48.980 the way I'm filling the screen. 0.94

00:52:58.360 I need a follow-up on Jack and Diane.

00:53:00.840 Kate, did you ever listen to it?

00:53:02.880 No, I never listened to it.

00:53:04.560 Did you something, if not first impression?

00:53:07.980 Oh, Kate, did you ever listen to it?

00:53:10.020 Did you recognize it after all?

00:53:13.380 Right?

00:53:13.980 No.

00:53:14.280 And then first impression.

00:53:15.540 So why don't we just end with, hold on, hold on.

00:53:17.560 play jack and diane

00:53:19.920 oh oh yeah i know this this is that like he's going this is crazy this is like

00:53:31.660 wait i know this this sounds like eight other songs from this era wait

00:53:36.600 hit us with the vocals guys jesus

00:53:45.400 I can't do another

00:53:50.220 Okay so

00:53:54.200 In the hot land

00:53:57.960 So this part I don't know

00:53:59.100 I know the intro

00:53:59.920 Well let's see if the chorus though

00:54:03.180 Okay

00:54:03.360 Of Jackie's car

00:54:07.460 Remember me singing this?

00:54:08.220 Yeah yeah

00:54:08.700 I think you're gonna know the chorus

00:54:10.440 But that'll be the real test

00:54:11.580 Cause the chorus is pretty serious

00:54:14.080 Classic

00:54:15.920 Sorry, one more verse, but it's worth it.

00:54:18.560 Chili dog.

00:54:19.700 Outside the tasty freeze.

00:54:22.520 Diane said no Jackie's left.

00:54:24.280 Got a hand between her knees. 1.00

00:54:25.940 Damn. 1.00

00:54:26.300 Oh. 1.00

00:54:26.780 Jackie said, hey, Diane, let's run off my shake.

00:54:30.140 Please. 1.00

00:54:31.760 Dribble off those Bobby Brooks that need to do what I'm saying.

00:54:36.740 Oh, yeah.

00:54:38.420 Life goes on.

00:54:39.880 Mm-hmm.

00:54:41.000 Long after the thrill of living is gone. 0.99

00:54:44.380 are you faking are you texting i'm looking at a really sweet message from the hag

00:54:53.540 okay no i'm here i know the song kate i know no i'm here with you i'm laughing because you

00:55:03.120 were nodding nodding along like no serviceably i was grooving oh okay i was grooving i do know

00:55:09.740 the song i know that i know that but i don't know the rest about the girl in the lap touching her 1.00

00:55:16.040 pussy in the van or whatever the fuck is going on it's really weird um well okay you gotta go but 1.00

00:55:27.200 hold on oh my god this is funny are you ready sorry i just started my teaching career art 0.99

00:55:38.060 teacher i low-key hate it all caps what do i do love you god that's cool inspire the kids maybe

00:55:47.440 it's changed maybe maybe the hag came around but if you hate it you get out okay i truly

00:55:53.920 those kids are all right we'll cover that in the future we'll do more pretty compelling

00:55:57.960 question. I'll talk to you guys later. Love you.

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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - July 14, 2026

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