Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - September 19, 2023


REMIX： The Jamaica Break-In

Am I Fucking Ripped？ REMIX： The Hags Talk Restaurants

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Length

57 minutes

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193.89

Word count

11,161

Sentence count

861

Harmful content

Misogyny

35

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Toxicity

166

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Hate speech

79

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00:02:36.040 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.
00:02:37.600 I'm Jacqueline Novak.
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00:02:52.120 This week, you will be experiencing a curation, a collage, what many would call a remix.
00:02:59.480 This is a kind of what's become sort of a classic coog tale from the archive,
00:03:05.400 which is the Jamaica break-in. 0.97
00:03:08.200 So please enjoy it. 0.96
00:03:10.240 In Jamaica.
00:03:11.620 So the final night, John and I, and by the way, beautiful bar.
00:03:14.860 Again, you said that the hotelification, the bar overlooking the ocean, beautiful,
00:03:18.660 not hotelified just very again just romantic not fussy really really pretty okay the point is
00:03:27.040 final night we're leaving dinner we hear incredible music playing we're like what's going on like
00:03:31.720 where is this band coming from we stumble upon what is clearly a private party there's a long
00:03:39.740 table and there are like 15 so we had heard from because of course you made friends with
00:03:46.800 Don who took us out
00:03:48.340 you know
00:03:48.800 snorkeling
00:03:49.560 and he was like
00:03:51.020 oh there's these
00:03:51.420 there are lawyers here
00:03:52.580 Who's Don?
00:03:53.040 Is he a hotel or a guest?
00:03:54.580 Sorry hotel
00:03:55.180 Okay
00:03:55.600 So what the point is
00:03:57.200 he's like
00:03:57.960 yeah there's some lawyers
00:03:58.580 staying here
00:03:59.160 Oh my god
00:03:59.580 We clocked the lawyers
00:04:00.300 we've been tracking them
00:04:01.280 We go
00:04:02.200 we stumbled upon
00:04:03.020 what is a private
00:04:03.920 lawyer 1.00
00:04:04.680 We can charm their asses 1.00
00:04:06.240 Well 0.99
00:04:06.500 the band 1.00
00:04:07.740 fucking rules 1.00
00:04:08.840 Okay 1.00
00:04:09.240 Oh my god
00:04:09.660 Talking seven piece band
00:04:11.160 and
00:04:12.180 the lawyers aren't
00:04:13.380 dancing
00:04:14.300 as you can imagine
00:04:15.340 They're by the bar 0.81
00:04:16.180 getting hammered you know it's like all these it's like these like men these like little sweat
00:04:20.520 on the back of an overly long shirt or like white guys yeah you know i go john we're crashing this
00:04:27.120 party oh my god of course we go in we start dancing yes from the heart again we're not 0.99
00:04:33.400 dancing because it's like oh we're dancing because we're fucking moved by the fucking 0.98
00:04:36.960 and now what did you see someone catch a glimpse their eye kind of over their buddy's blue shirt 0.99
00:04:44.880 shoulder. Yeah. A few people started looking at us because, but it's not a big party. I want to
00:04:49.640 be clear. 20 people. Amazing. This is a small party. John and I clearly don't belong. Very risky,
00:04:54.660 highly risky. Phenomenal. People are looking over at us. We're dancing. The band goes,
00:04:58.240 this is our last song. And it's that thing too, where it's like, oh no, like they're used to
00:05:01.660 performing for tourists. So it's like a reggae, like, and they're playing like, you know, every
00:05:06.120 little thing is going to be all right. Right. Or something. And I was like, no, that can't be it.
00:05:09.380 No more, more, more. Were you actually calling that out or is that just your soul? I'm calling
00:05:14.040 it out. Don't stop. So one of the
00:05:16.000 guys, of course, one of the gay
00:05:17.900 lawyers came up to us and was like,
00:05:19.500 are you guys those comedians or whatever?
00:05:22.000 We're like, yeah. So then I start
00:05:24.120 chatting him up and I go, listen,
00:05:26.100 the ban cannot be done. You need to tell your boss
00:05:28.100 to like add a couple more hours to the fucking 0.99
00:05:29.900 thing or whatever. I watched this 0.99
00:05:31.940 happen in real time. I'm the boss, sweetie.
00:05:34.260 Okay. Sorry. Exactly.
00:05:35.940 I watched this partner with
00:05:38.000 a cigar in his hand. Oh my God.
00:05:39.960 Something, something. Clearly a little negotiation happens.
00:05:42.560 They start playing. The partner
00:05:43.480 the gay lawyer is not 0.95
00:05:45.580 the man with cigar to be clear 0.98
00:05:47.480 he has spoken to the cigar man
00:05:49.660 I'm sorry I'm getting too excited I'm forgetting the order 1.00
00:05:51.540 I'm getting to the order so the gay guy is like 1.00
00:05:53.580 I'm like you gotta tell your boss to get the band 1.00
00:05:55.740 to play more because it was like 10 o'clock
00:05:57.160 they can't be done this is you know
00:05:58.520 I am by the bar
00:06:00.820 cigar man lawyer
00:06:02.900 I hear you guys are comedians
00:06:05.560 right and I'm like yeah
00:06:07.400 we start trying to go you gotta get
00:06:09.340 he goes we're a law firm in Philadelphia
00:06:11.280 by the way this like hammered
00:06:13.400 drunk and this is the detail will come later this hammer drunk lawyer comes over to me we're the 0.99
00:06:18.520 best law firm in the world no no this is too much yeah okay okay drunk out of his fucking mind 0.99
00:06:26.200 leaves i'm talking to the lawyer he's got the cigar at one point i'm sorry best woman and then 0.98
00:06:33.800 the are you wearing those sandals i'm wearing my target so again i want to be clear went to
00:06:38.700 jamaica from new york all i had were winter boots and winter coats i had yes only winter gear i'm
00:06:43.380 emergency, ran to Target. Which is where you go when you have a trip. Two swimsuits,
00:06:47.200 flip-flops, and two dresses, everything. All year long. And honey, it was dead winter,
00:06:51.720 30% off. And the Acceleration brand continues to surprise and delight every season. That's all I
00:06:57.540 know is I had everything I needed for my trip. So I'm wearing, but okay, but the partner is
00:07:02.240 talking to me. He's got a cigar. He goes, does this bother you? I go, no, I go, it reminds me
00:07:10.080 my childhood. Oh my God. He goes, oh, did your dad smoke a cigar? I was like, no, but his friend
00:07:15.560 used to. I'm like, ew. I know. No, no. Sorry. I'm loving. What am I doing? No, no, no. He was
00:07:22.360 phenomenal. Okay. John and I both felt he was flirting with both of us. We're like, we're like,
00:07:26.140 wait, he's like, loves us both. Okay. Yeah. I'm sure. So I'm like, we got to get the band to play
00:07:32.100 more. I watch him go over, talk to the lead singer. They work it out. They start playing.
00:07:37.320 I go over to the bar and I go,
00:07:39.080 I want seven beers for the band right now.
00:07:41.340 Oh my God.
00:07:41.840 They're not getting them beers.
00:07:43.280 And I carry over Red Stripes to the band.
00:07:47.100 So fun on the company tab.
00:07:48.580 I said they're all sober.
00:07:49.500 Needless to say, I know.
00:07:52.120 They start drinking beer.
00:07:53.160 Wait, it was on the company tab?
00:07:54.320 Wait, hold on.
00:07:54.900 Yes.
00:07:55.660 Yes, it's on the company tab.
00:07:56.780 Did you say it's on the company tab?
00:07:58.680 Did you know it was just happening by virtue of-
00:08:01.240 I just knew, I knew that it was a private party.
00:08:02.980 I knew that the card was down.
00:08:03.600 So if you just ask the bartender, hi.
00:08:04.820 Yeah, it's a 20 person party.
00:08:05.880 And he sees that you've been talking to the partner.
00:08:07.700 I had a tequila soda on the company.
00:08:10.320 Yeah, yeah.
00:08:10.700 No, no, no.
00:08:11.120 I'm in.
00:08:11.780 I'm in.
00:08:12.200 What are they going to do?
00:08:13.120 Hey, you can't have drinks here?
00:08:15.020 No, no, no.
00:08:15.600 Not after we're dancing and making them experience joy for the first time in their life.
00:08:19.020 Yeah, literally connecting with life.
00:08:19.600 The entire reason they came on the vacation.
00:08:20.740 The entire reason they came on the vacation.
00:08:22.440 Is spontaneously.
00:08:24.140 Sometimes you have to be for someone else.
00:08:25.920 The entire reason they came on the vacation.
00:08:28.180 You have to actually serve that up a lot in life.
00:08:29.960 Oh.
00:08:30.240 I mean, if you're, if we're poor, you know.
00:08:32.700 Mm-hmm.
00:08:33.040 so I
00:08:34.080 so I
00:08:34.760 I go over
00:08:35.760 I give them beers
00:08:36.560 and I'm like
00:08:36.960 I want to hear what you guys
00:08:38.300 want to play
00:08:38.840 oh my god Kate
00:08:39.640 they go we can play anything
00:08:40.660 I'm like
00:08:41.740 I know but like
00:08:42.620 what do you guys
00:08:43.300 like I'm just like
00:08:43.980 I'm sure you guys 0.99
00:08:44.440 they start to fucking 0.99
00:08:46.140 oh my god 0.99
00:08:46.720 crank it out
00:08:47.800 I'm on my knees
00:08:49.300 at one point
00:08:49.760 dancing so hard
00:08:50.480 I'm feeling it so hard
00:08:51.820 I'm on my knees
00:08:52.480 the finest story
00:08:53.520 and I want to be clear
00:08:54.480 the ocean is at night
00:08:55.920 crashing
00:08:56.420 oh my god
00:08:57.240 we're on the beach
00:08:57.940 the music is unbelievable
00:08:59.500 cool sand
00:09:00.900 we're getting down so hard
00:09:03.040 And then by the way, people are starting to dance.
00:09:06.540 Suddenly some of the lawyers are starting to dance.
00:09:09.080 Oh my God.
00:09:09.900 Then it goes even further.
00:09:11.420 And I go, what do you guys want?
00:09:12.540 You want a shot?
00:09:13.120 To who?
00:09:13.660 The band again?
00:09:14.760 Yeah.
00:09:15.280 They go, yeah, we'll take tequila shots.
00:09:16.980 I go to the bar.
00:09:17.540 I go, hey, I'd like to buy it.
00:09:18.860 I didn't say I'd like to buy it.
00:09:20.020 But I was just like, can we get some tequila shots for the band?
00:09:22.500 I watched them open a brand new bottle of Patron.
00:09:24.400 Oh my God.
00:09:24.900 And they pour thick, heavy shots.
00:09:27.080 Thick, holiday pour.
00:09:28.140 Holiday pour shots.
00:09:29.060 I take them over to the band.
00:09:30.360 I just want to say that it was a joy.
00:09:32.200 to buy tequila for the band on the company card.
00:09:34.860 We're dancing, having a great time.
00:09:37.660 Everything's great.
00:09:38.560 The partner's like,
00:09:39.720 oh, if you're ever in Philadelphia,
00:09:40.940 you know, all of this.
00:09:41.800 If you're ever in Philadelphia,
00:09:42.620 we'll represent you.
00:09:45.040 Yeah.
00:09:46.700 John, of course, was like,
00:09:47.560 I'm trying to sue someone in Philadelphia.
00:09:49.060 And the guy thought it was real, of course.
00:09:50.520 Oh my God.
00:09:51.480 Like, no, we're joking.
00:09:52.460 Because guess what?
00:09:53.040 I thought it was real when you just said it.
00:09:54.780 Despite John constantly telling lies, okay?
00:09:59.160 As gags, I believe every single one.
00:10:01.180 yeah yeah well the same thing happened we were talking about one of the lawyers 0.92
00:10:04.960 and the lawyer was like what do you like what's up with you guys and john was like
00:10:08.260 we're here with our kids oh my god no it's not real but they think it's real you know just it's
00:10:13.340 constant okay so the point is he's out of control finally the band closes finally the band really
00:10:17.240 does end incredible set we're loving you were like that's the perfect time to end you're like
00:10:21.180 that was the perfect time to end i couldn't have danced a single more times if they played one
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00:14:06.500 pivotal so great night john and i it's our final night and we're like remark we're like we cannot
00:14:15.540 believe that the night ended with that like the trip ended with that just unbelievable we go back
00:14:20.500 to our room we're sharing this room it's around 12 30 i hear all of a sudden wait wait you know
00:14:28.400 so it's scarier so okay so we're in this unbelievable lagoon cottage on the water 0.91
00:14:33.340 yes fucking psychotic okay it's the nicest place i've ever stayed and we're in there and we hear 0.95
00:14:40.300 something we're brushing our teeth together his and her sings and we hear like something that is 0.99
00:14:46.460 enough to make us both kind of turn around and go what was that and it kind of kind of a little 0.95
00:14:51.220 scary like oh you know is it a fucking like animal like what the hell so we hear that we're kind of 0.96
00:14:57.180 scared but then we immediately dissolves we're brushing our teeth john goes into the the bedroom 0.98
00:15:01.520 area i'm in the bathroom and i hear i hear john say whoa you guys i go in two drunk lawyers are
00:15:11.060 standing in our hotel no no no no my adrenaline shoots through the roof two drunk men in the room 1.00
00:15:19.500 here to clearly rape and murder i start to scream i don't scream i go get the fuck out of here 1.00
00:15:26.640 John goes out first 1.00
00:15:30.340 You're still in the bathroom
00:15:31.280 And then you hear John say guys
00:15:33.100 John I'm in the bathroom
00:15:34.160 But it's like one open
00:15:35.160 I hear John go
00:15:36.000 I hear John
00:15:36.860 As if a puppy has wandered in
00:15:38.680 I hear John say like
00:15:39.700 Whoa you guys
00:15:41.040 Like what are you doing here
00:15:42.020 I go in
00:15:42.500 So they entered
00:15:43.360 The fear
00:15:43.940 They're not at the door
00:15:44.620 They entered
00:15:45.080 They entered
00:15:45.960 So they're standing
00:15:47.060 So John's reacting
00:15:47.740 He's not at the door
00:15:48.780 And people have kind of
00:15:49.560 Argued their way in
00:15:50.940 They've already walked in
00:15:51.480 They've already walked in
00:15:52.640 John Hurley saying guys
00:15:53.660 No John Hurley is like guys
00:15:55.320 I was like
00:15:56.020 okay so give me let's give him give it to me for real I say what the hell and I'm like and one of
00:16:01.560 them so one of them is the guy we're the best law firm in the world it's that course he is yeah the
00:16:06.300 super hammered guy and then a less hammered but still very hammered guy the very hammered guy
00:16:11.000 is walking in and he's fully in the other guy's still kind of lingering by the doorway and they're
00:16:16.440 like this is our room this is my room I go this is not your room they're like this is our room 0.99
00:16:21.020 and I'm like this is not your fucking room 0.99
00:16:23.440 I was like you need to get the hell out of here 0.99
00:16:25.560 right now and I walk
00:16:27.400 outside encourage them to get outside and to
00:16:29.500 be in more public space yeah and just because
00:16:31.240 I didn't feel I
00:16:33.180 soon realized okay they're not being
00:16:34.980 aggressive drunk they're actually so
00:16:37.140 hammered and I think they actually are confused
00:16:39.160 like something's going on that I don't understand but this
00:16:41.380 is the scariest thing in the world
00:16:43.220 and there's a good chance they are staying in a lagoon room
00:16:45.200 yeah I don't feel the need to scream
00:16:47.220 like
00:16:47.420 yeah but like but i because it's also the resort small it's quite it's like if i were to scream 0.73
00:16:53.660 everyone would hear whatever but this one guy won't get the fuck out of here and he's like
00:16:57.980 this is my suitcase my that is not your suitcase it's our suitcase is john saying anything too 0.87
00:17:03.520 like is john john i have to say not protecting me i peacocked i was pumping i was like yeah you
00:17:11.380 went i was like you went like the masculine energy switch got turned and i was like get the
00:17:16.280 how the hell do I not have this on film this is devastating I know I know so I'm like yelling 0.99
00:17:22.460 loud enough being like get your fucking get the hell out of here whatever they wander out we 0.99
00:17:28.400 close you're not trying conversational at all you're not like I I feel like I would just know 0.99
00:17:33.380 I'm get the fuck out get the fuck out okay no I'm pure anger I have the adrenaline surging I'm like
00:17:37.900 how the hell are they in here what's going are they you know but then I'm again I'm also clocking 0.99
00:17:43.000 okay they're not being like physically aggressive or anything like they're they truly are so hammered
00:17:48.240 but i there's nothing worse on earth than drunk people like it's just the scariest it's like
00:17:53.980 horrifying like the last of us like the zombies like that's just alcoholism like if it's all
00:17:59.900 around and it's like and i and i'm just like so scared of them because they're so out of their
00:18:05.900 minds and so i immediately call the front desk and i'm like hi there are two drunk lawyers did
00:18:11.040 you say lawyers? Because I know they're from the retreat. I'm like, there are two drunk men from
00:18:15.920 the lawyer retreat. They're in our room. They got in. The guy's like, okay, lock your door. Like,
00:18:20.620 do you want me to send security? I was like, yes, you do need to send security. Wait, were they out
00:18:23.080 yet? Were they out yet? Yeah, they're out. They're out, but I hear them going by the door.
00:18:27.220 And I'm like, how the hell did they get in here? How the hell? And John was like, was the door
00:18:30.720 open? Maybe the door was open. I was like, the door was not open. I opened the door and closed
00:18:33.340 it. There's no fucking way that door was open. So I call the front. I hear, and then I hear one 0.99
00:18:38.400 them outside like our key worked for your room or something like oh how do we get in so there's an
00:18:43.800 there's an identical lagoon cottage directly across okay i think okay this is so i'm like
00:18:49.000 maybe the lawyers becomes first of all wait don't forget they're lawyers so watch their defense
00:18:54.380 closely and why did my key work why did my key work so show us i'm still like we can't well by
00:19:00.460 the way i'm like imagine being dead asleep and the door opens and there are men in there i mean
00:19:08.060 that's literally your life's ruined can't sleep ever again i mean but the point is they're gone
00:19:12.900 so i watch them i go okay they're in i go so clearly okay at least that is their room across
00:19:17.920 the way that is their room but like what the hell they weren't angry like i wasn't i was like okay
00:19:23.040 we're going to sleep sleep like a baby um but oh i said to john so as soon as they left i go this
00:19:28.500 room is free i say to john and i'm walking around i'm walking around the room so sure i go if they
00:19:36.280 think we are paying for this night now is your belief and tell me if this isn't even coming into
00:19:41.580 it okay but is your belief that the key of the of men was the keys were made in such a way that
00:19:49.320 there's no security because these other guys keys does open our door is that what you'd be coming at
00:19:53.880 the hotel with in your mind yeah i'm just kind of like how is this possible but yeah their keys
00:19:57.260 work if that's like if that's true right that's insane then that's true then yeah okay anyway 0.96
00:20:01.860 you know wake up have coffee fucking breakfast on the lagoon diving right into the water from 0.96
00:20:07.960 the room what in about in the morning do you see the lawyers or anything no so i so i'm terrified 0.98
00:20:11.200 of seeing the lawyers right and i was like because i was like john and i are gonna be
00:20:14.240 swimming all morning outside the lagoon in the lagoon if they come out and try to talk to us
00:20:18.380 i'm gonna be like hey hope you're like but then i'm also realizing okay this was a mistake like
00:20:23.120 they weren't intruding thinking it was his suitcase is interesting but here's what i can't
00:20:27.440 get over them walking in and the one guy not leaving not leaving that's where i'm like burn 1.00
00:20:32.920 in hell right there's a woman screaming at you get the fuck out and you're just standing there 0.99
00:20:36.700 in the room you're deciding to argue the case yeah i mean he wasn't he but the one guy you 1.00
00:20:41.540 mean the less drunk no the more drunk guy no more drunk i wouldn't leave and the other one did
00:20:45.360 like he left like trying to get the other one is in the doorway and i start screaming at him 0.99
00:20:51.140 get your fucking guy get get him and he's like he's like oh whatever his name is like let's go 0.99
00:20:56.380 Right. I'm like, no, physically go get him right now. Physically go get him right now. 0.99
00:21:00.640 Did it ever occur to you and, or did you, I'm not suggesting this. I'm just curious because
00:21:05.360 my mind, I'm putting myself in the circumstances to physically like push his drunk body towards
00:21:10.800 the door. So I didn't want to touch. No. So I didn't want to touch at all. And I was waiting
00:21:16.680 in the doorway and I stimulate. Yeah. And I just like, even in the moment I was like,
00:21:21.280 he was so drunk. He still wasn't fully leaving. And I had the urge to kind of,
00:21:24.640 John said he like put his hand on his back
00:21:27.140 Kind of firmly to lead him out
00:21:28.680 But didn't push
00:21:30.020 And I'm still like when it comes out
00:21:31.580 I'm like is he gonna like turn around and stalk me
00:21:34.180 Like I just don't know 0.99
00:21:34.920 Like he's because he's so fucking 0.99
00:21:36.460 X's in his eyes 0.99
00:21:37.680 Oh gosh yeah 0.99
00:21:38.600 Might as well be dead 0.99
00:21:39.620 Right
00:21:40.120 I'm like
00:21:40.780 Anyway
00:21:41.760 In the beautiful glow of the morning
00:21:43.780 I'm like maybe we won't get the room free
00:21:45.480 I'm like maybe
00:21:46.240 Now here's what I want to know
00:21:48.000 What do you think
00:21:49.420 Well are you still wondering what happened
00:21:51.280 And why they got in
00:21:52.720 And are you dead sure you closed the door
00:21:54.620 because I would assume knowing you, 0.97
00:21:57.380 you're pretty fucking sure if you closed the door or not. 0.96
00:21:59.800 The door was closed and that is fully confirmed. 0.98
00:22:02.180 The door was completely closed.
00:22:03.580 What do you think I'm entitled to?
00:22:04.620 Was there any follow-up by the hotel in the morning?
00:22:07.880 No, that was checkout day.
00:22:10.520 What do you feel?
00:22:11.740 I mean, how much outrage or am I overreacting?
00:22:17.380 Did you feel outrage at the hotel?
00:22:18.800 Because do you believe the key opened both doors?
00:22:20.940 And I felt, I felt, yeah, I guess at that point I thought their key opened our door.
00:22:26.380 You know, it'd be an ugly, I don't know what this would prove or do.
00:22:29.420 An ugly little thing would be to switch your room key at the party.
00:22:32.680 So the lawyer switches his room key with yours, pulls it out of your little purse.
00:22:36.080 Okay, whatever.
00:22:37.280 And then uses that to get in your room and be like, but my key worked.
00:22:40.520 Look, look.
00:22:41.140 I know.
00:22:41.740 Oh my God, I know.
00:22:43.400 Like, I'd be like curious about like security camera.
00:22:45.240 I don't know.
00:22:45.740 I would be curious about what happened.
00:22:47.440 Okay.
00:22:47.700 So we go to checkout.
00:22:49.300 out. Everyone's been lovely that works there. It's been a great experience. And I say to the
00:22:55.400 woman at the front, did they talk to you about what happened last night? And she's like, no,
00:22:59.880 what happened? I tell her and she's like, oh, be honest. She's not as horrified as I would like
00:23:07.100 her to be. I was like, they were like drunk and like, wouldn't get out. We had to like scream
00:23:10.940 at them. I was like, it was pretty awful. It was like pretty scary there when they first came in.
00:23:14.760 And it was like, you know, she says there's a thing because our cottages, normally it's like people are renting that whole area. 0.99
00:23:22.600 So it's like, oh, it's a bachelor weekend or whatever the fuck.
00:23:25.520 So the two villas, the key work for both. 0.98
00:23:27.600 And she alerted you to that.
00:23:29.340 Their key work for hours.
00:23:30.300 She just admitted that.
00:23:31.360 Yes.
00:23:31.940 Kate, I'm in shock.
00:23:35.480 That is absolute negligence.
00:23:38.640 That is absolute.
00:23:41.900 That's insane.
00:23:43.580 What do you.
00:23:44.120 Okay, I love you.
00:23:44.540 What is the primary responsibility?
00:23:46.580 So I froze.
00:23:47.660 A room with a lock.
00:23:48.700 So it's like, you don't pay for the room,
00:23:50.560 you pay for the lock, you know what I mean?
00:23:51.400 So I said, I said. 1.00
00:23:52.600 You pay for the whore to leave, you know what I mean? 1.00
00:23:54.080 I said, and she kind of said that like, 1.00
00:23:57.180 she was like, I'll alert the IT people.
00:23:59.880 I was like, yeah.
00:24:01.440 And I kind of, because she's so relaxed about it.
00:24:03.620 I was like.
00:24:04.260 The IT people, my God.
00:24:05.580 Yeah, or something.
00:24:06.240 And I was like, whoa.
00:24:07.220 And I, you know, I just said,
00:24:08.700 is there anything you can do for us?
00:24:09.920 I was like, that seems pretty, you know,
00:24:12.860 crazy that their key would work for a room.
00:24:14.540 She goes, I'll be right back.
00:24:15.840 I hear her on the phone.
00:24:16.720 She's talking to someone.
00:24:17.940 Then she comes back and she goes,
00:24:19.460 I talked to our manager.
00:24:21.240 He's sincerely sorry.
00:24:22.700 I wanted to give you a single pina colada.
00:24:24.440 We're going to take two of your dinners off the tab.
00:24:26.360 Ew.
00:24:26.840 I'm sorry, Kate.
00:24:27.520 Nope.
00:24:28.060 This is bad enough that I don't even think you didn't get like,
00:24:31.280 oh, you didn't get it in the moment right there.
00:24:32.860 And I think you still have recourse.
00:24:34.420 This is insane. 1.00
00:24:35.120 This fucking rules. 1.00
00:24:36.000 I'm going to email them today. 0.99
00:24:36.940 I'm going to email them today.
00:24:37.740 I feel like they're-
00:24:39.060 I'm going to email them today.
00:24:39.960 Because-
00:24:40.380 Listener, correct me if I'm wrong.
00:24:41.620 At Holiday Inn, another guest's key doesn't work
00:24:44.020 for your room.
00:24:44.660 Exactly.
00:24:45.380 It's the number one.
00:24:46.660 At a roadside motel.
00:24:49.100 Also,
00:24:49.680 like,
00:24:50.180 there must,
00:24:50.760 I mean,
00:24:51.260 not to,
00:24:52.020 but,
00:24:52.880 not to have to call the boys
00:24:54.220 in Philly,
00:24:54.800 but,
00:24:55.520 like,
00:24:56.720 legally,
00:24:57.380 surely,
00:24:57.840 like,
00:24:58.000 to run a hotel,
00:24:58.720 there are certain,
00:24:59.280 like,
00:24:59.520 basic things,
00:25:00.440 okay?
00:25:01.480 Actually,
00:25:01.780 it's an interesting idea.
00:25:02.800 You should get the Philly boys
00:25:03.820 themselves to represent you.
00:25:05.600 I know.
00:25:06.460 We sue them. 1.00
00:25:07.620 We could have assaulted her. 0.98
00:25:10.360 In the courtroom? 0.96
00:25:11.480 Well,
00:25:11.620 by the way,
00:25:12.220 that's almost the difference.
00:25:13.480 I'm like, 0.99
00:25:14.020 If I had been, if I had been alone, I would have lost my fucking mind and I would have. 0.99
00:25:21.580 Okay. 0.99
00:25:21.820 So you're saying, this is huge, Jacqueline.
00:25:24.060 So you're saying I should email and say, it just doesn't sit right with me paying for
00:25:28.260 that final night.
00:25:28.900 Oh my God.
00:25:29.800 Kate, no, it just doesn't sit right with you not calling the cops, in my opinion, and taking
00:25:33.760 massive legal action.
00:25:35.740 Final night.
00:25:38.300 I mean, okay, there's a couple thoughts.
00:25:40.600 One, I've never taken legal action.
00:25:42.680 Okay.
00:25:42.800 I know nothing about legal action.
00:25:43.900 I'm speaking merely in the world.
00:25:45.940 I would never take a little action.
00:25:47.480 Whatever.
00:25:48.360 Like, what happens if a hotel has bad wiring in their room?
00:25:51.820 Okay.
00:25:52.900 And a minor fire started and they put it out.
00:25:55.860 And it's because they had bad wiring that they installed.
00:25:59.340 Because here's the thing.
00:26:00.000 It's not even accidental.
00:26:00.940 It's like essentially a policy.
00:26:02.360 I'm actually, as you're talking, I'm like,
00:26:04.620 oh, we're not paying for that final night, honey.
00:26:07.060 You keep saying final night.
00:26:09.240 Oh, trip.
00:26:11.160 Plus a free one next year.
00:26:13.900 It's her sister property. 0.87
00:26:16.620 Final night.
00:26:18.120 Kate, what I'm trying to suggest to you is that you were put in literal danger.
00:26:23.260 Literal danger.
00:26:24.500 I know.
00:26:25.040 Okay.
00:26:25.200 I know. 0.99
00:26:25.840 By the way, we could have, John and I could have been having sex. 0.97
00:26:28.620 You know what I'm just saying? 0.98
00:26:29.520 Yeah.
00:26:29.800 They came in 1230.
00:26:30.800 We could have been, by the way, it wouldn't indicate under any circumstance.
00:26:34.180 Could have been naked. 1.00
00:26:34.920 Could have been fucking. 1.00
00:26:35.600 Could have been asleep. 1.00
00:26:36.180 Could have been mid-proposal.
00:26:38.360 We could have been mid-breakup.
00:26:39.460 well these are not again again i go back to assault okay you're it's like it's not about
00:26:46.340 like we could have been having the finest steak dinner of our lives okay and what about the
00:26:51.540 by the way the lawyers say we were the lawyers getting on my side we could have assaulted i mean
00:26:55.240 well this is what you say to the lawyer boys you head down to philly okay okay and you roll in and
00:27:01.140 you say boys there's two options you can either be dragged into this case as a witness 1.00
00:27:04.980 or you can take the case and you'll fight your goddamn rights you'll just fight your goddamn 0.99
00:27:13.080 ass off to get me a settlement or i don't know i don't know there's there's something there's 0.99
00:27:18.280 something poetic to be gleaned here but but to me it's one thing if there's negligence i mean
00:27:25.340 i think it even goes more than negligence because it's like systemic it's how they
00:27:29.540 so the key because what she said was key the key works for both she goes you're staying on this
00:27:35.360 part of the it's like so okay picture this the cottages right there's one like big main house
00:27:42.140 that's between the two cottages it was not occupied no i get it us and the drunk guys
00:27:46.940 had the little front cottages yeah so it's just always at those keys the key should not work for
00:27:54.500 other rooms to the two flanks wait so talk to me talk to me talk to me i mean what would you do
00:28:00.420 so i email was there a safe in the room yes there was a safe and they're really pushing the safe
00:28:04.760 they were like lock up i've never used the safe in a hotel in my life i know i know like the safe
00:28:09.760 is there and there was a little note that was like you know but i was like i'm not using the 0.88
00:28:13.500 fucking we're not responsible yeah no and that but i point that out to mean like like hotel rooms 0.87
00:28:18.360 recognize the danger like the secondary level which is like a key work for drunken lawyers 0.98
00:28:25.240 on kate and john's room and they came in in the night and the key was programmed to work that way
00:28:30.300 they explained it to us we had to scream at them scream at them to get out because it's part of
00:28:36.880 this area that normally people will rent like they'll rent all four cottages okay and so these
00:28:43.680 guys drunkenly stumbled into their room and they're like the key work the key work what do
00:28:47.560 mean this is our room that's my suitcase okay and the hotel the next morning is like yeah well
00:28:52.880 actually the keys do work for for both of those i actually was genuinely terrified it could have
00:28:56.940 been fully beaten up anything yeah so tell chris tell chris we got two dinners comp two dinners
00:29:03.180 chris that's when you start using the word unacceptable i just does chris think we should
00:29:09.740 get a free night so kate is asking does chris think kate and john should get a free night
00:29:14.240 there it is
00:29:15.960 got the whole thing
00:29:16.780 he said
00:29:17.460 shocked
00:29:17.920 this free night
00:29:19.700 kids obsessed
00:29:20.200 with that night
00:29:20.940 well I wasn't
00:29:21.900 almost assaulted
00:29:22.740 the previous night
00:29:23.420 yes you were
00:29:24.460 yes you were
00:29:26.000 they just happened
00:29:26.660 not to stumble in
00:29:27.460 that night
00:29:27.940 oh my god
00:29:29.100 I mean
00:29:29.880 whatever
00:29:30.360 to me it's not about
00:29:31.700 like playing 1.00
00:29:32.720 like the poog 0.99
00:29:33.460 game about 0.74
00:29:34.880 about free stays
00:29:35.660 because of course I am
00:29:36.500 like
00:29:37.120 it's an egregious
00:29:38.740 safety
00:29:39.560 failure
00:29:40.560 by the way
00:29:40.980 imagine
00:29:41.320 and I'm not going to do this
00:29:42.360 imagine if I go to Yelp
00:29:43.800 or even right here. 1.00
00:29:45.440 Fuck, Yelp. 1.00
00:29:46.460 Even here on Pooh, I go, 1.00
00:29:47.860 hey, if you stay at this place,
00:29:49.900 other people have a key to your room.
00:29:51.420 Yeah.
00:29:51.860 So enjoy.
00:29:52.840 Enjoy.
00:29:53.320 Oh, it's gorgeous.
00:29:53.960 It's amazing.
00:29:54.560 But anyone can get in there.
00:29:55.880 Anyone can get in there at any hour. 1.00
00:29:56.660 And rape or murder you. 1.00
00:29:57.560 Yeah. 1.00
00:29:58.300 By design, by policy.
00:30:01.320 Not it can happen due to glitch.
00:30:03.060 Okay.
00:30:03.780 I'm sweating because I'm so excited to,
00:30:05.800 so I'm basically,
00:30:07.100 I'm going to text John.
00:30:08.000 I'm scared you're going to.
00:30:08.940 What?
00:30:09.460 What are you scared?
00:30:10.540 No, like I'm almost like scared
00:30:12.020 you're going to go too soft again
00:30:13.100 and like, just be like,
00:30:14.060 can we get the cocktails free too?
00:30:15.520 I just like, I don't-
00:30:16.600 What should I say?
00:30:17.040 I think I'm going to say is,
00:30:18.340 hi, we had a beautiful stay, blah, blah, blah.
00:30:20.780 This happened.
00:30:21.500 I'll talk about how terrifying it was, 0.99
00:30:22.640 which it fucking was. 0.99
00:30:24.020 And then I'm just going to say, 0.99
00:30:25.660 it just doesn't sit right with me.
00:30:28.440 Like-
00:30:28.540 See, it's still not quite there where it is for me.
00:30:30.540 I'm not sure what the beautiful stay thing
00:30:32.220 is all about for you at this point.
00:30:34.480 I mean, I guess, is it because you want to go back
00:30:36.240 and you're hoping that they give you like,
00:30:38.820 you know, a tower of profiterole
00:30:40.200 with like a cut key at the top?
00:30:41.680 So you're saying, you're saying with a cup key at the top.
00:30:44.120 We all remember what almost happened last time.
00:30:47.160 So what would you do if you were me?
00:30:49.120 Now they run the hotel.
00:30:49.660 What would you do if you were me?
00:30:51.420 Well, I would probably Google a little bit about what legally,
00:30:54.380 because if you think, you know,
00:30:55.840 questions of when safety has not been brought up before in a hotel,
00:30:59.160 you know, there's a world of stories out there.
00:31:02.060 So it's sort of like, I'd probably Google a little and just be like,
00:31:05.280 you know, the primary expectation of a Motel 6 is that,
00:31:09.160 you know, I'm not at home,
00:31:10.260 but I can stay somewhere where I can guarantee a roof over my head that no one but me is the
00:31:16.660 key to. It's the primary expectation of a hotel. And I was alerted, not that a glitch or some kind
00:31:26.320 of error of mere negligence had occurred, but that by design and policy, the adjacent rooms
00:31:34.300 had access to my room for the entirety of this day. If I had found that out, I would have been
00:31:40.260 you know really upset like if nothing had happened but i found that out however i did find out to
00:31:45.260 find drunken profoundly drunken out of control men men had entered my room using a key would not
00:31:56.060 leave see like because i almost what i try to focus on they were rightfully confused they were right
00:32:01.680 it's funny it's it's funny like you know and by the way by the way jacklin jacklin jacklin i left 0.98
00:32:06.560 a detail their careers and lives could be ruined if you'd like well fucking your bet i should take 0.92
00:32:11.500 my phone out and start filming them that's a huge mistake not to well i know i know so and this is 0.97
00:32:16.920 furthering the confusion when they were outside and they were talking at the door and i screamed 0.93
00:32:20.760 you better get the fuck away from that door right now because they were out there and i heard and 0.90
00:32:24.860 one of them the less drunk one goes can we just he goes can we just come inside and look for our 0.99
00:32:31.240 bad. Oh, he still thought. He was still that confused. He still thought. That's when I almost
00:32:36.540 felt bad. I was like, oh, damn. Yeah. See, this is actually where maybe you do. The lawyers are 1.00
00:32:43.780 not the villains here. Let's start with that. This is where you and the lawyers, you, John,
00:32:48.860 you and John and the lawyer boys team up. OK, and get a settlement because like like what if you
00:32:56.480 had, you know, they could argue that their their careers and lives were almost ruined because what
00:33:00.800 if you had immediately pulled out a camera and put them on tiktok going these lawyers from
00:33:07.100 philadelphia firm whatever drunk and broke into our room barge into my room and i i'm just saying
00:33:12.420 like like it's very funny okay by the way my adrenaline i am so excited to write this email
00:33:18.580 i'm not actually joking about i'm actually thinking it might be interesting to reach
00:33:22.080 out to the law firm listen listen listen listen their law firm no i know but wait listen would
00:33:29.380 I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to reference the law in my email. But listen, if you were me, would you put in the email something on the lines of being billed for the stay feels pretty egregious? Or would you just let them come forward with it? You know what I'm saying?
00:33:47.180 Yeah, I once heard someone say something like, when we said I had another allergy, I was delivered a nut in a cocktail.
00:33:56.200 Oh, yeah.
00:33:57.140 And I had an immediately allergic reaction, ran to the store, whatever.
00:34:02.000 And at the end of the meal, when they tried to take the round of drinks off, the ones that had the nut in the drink, okay?
00:34:10.960 Yeah.
00:34:11.580 Are you already composing the email?
00:34:13.640 Yeah, we'll do it.
00:34:16.160 Psychopaths, okay.
00:34:17.180 Because you're afraid of losing the words
00:34:19.180 that just came to you
00:34:19.900 that you feel are the golden ticket.
00:34:21.760 Okay, keep going, keep going.
00:34:23.020 You need to breathe and realize that like,
00:34:25.180 I'm not going to forget.
00:34:26.500 Like, I'm only going to get better
00:34:27.700 as the day wears on.
00:34:28.340 You're right. 0.99
00:34:28.760 You're fucking right. 0.97
00:34:29.500 Okay, I love you. 0.95
00:34:31.300 Okay, thank you.
00:34:33.700 But I heard the person I was dining with
00:34:35.680 say something like,
00:34:36.720 I was shocked when the bill came out.
00:34:40.280 Yeah.
00:34:40.920 I assumed in no way
00:34:42.280 was I going to pay for this meal.
00:34:44.300 Yeah.
00:34:44.560 I was astounded when I was handed a bill.
00:34:48.900 And by putting it through that way,
00:34:51.420 the manager was like, 1.00
00:34:52.840 oh shit, you're right. 0.99
00:34:53.740 Like basically, 1.00
00:34:54.400 I was like, you're right.
00:34:55.880 And then I read it for this.
00:34:58.080 And this is where we differ
00:34:59.400 or where, you know,
00:35:00.460 the people I was with
00:35:01.120 and I think you might differ, okay.
00:35:04.240 Is that he goes,
00:35:05.740 we are absolutely paying for the meal.
00:35:07.660 This is not about, 1.00
00:35:09.580 like, I'm not gonna be the asshole. 0.99
00:35:11.680 It doesn't be like, 0.99
00:35:12.160 we're paying for the entire meal
00:35:13.600 and we were, even if you wouldn't let us,
00:35:15.440 we'd be tipping the waitstaff, you know,
00:35:17.640 heartily, whatever.
00:35:18.600 But he's like, we were paying for the meal,
00:35:19.840 like, but I just want you to know
00:35:21.520 I was completely shocked that a bill came.
00:35:23.920 Ooh, there it is.
00:35:25.360 And then, and they're going,
00:35:27.660 no, no, we'd really like to comp the meal.
00:35:29.820 You are absolutely right.
00:35:30.840 And we'd really like to comp the meal.
00:35:31.940 Comp the meal.
00:35:32.360 And the person was going, absolutely not.
00:35:34.020 No, we're paying.
00:35:34.640 And I'm going, can we, can we do something?
00:35:37.100 Yeah, yeah.
00:35:38.560 Because like, you know, I was paying for half the meal.
00:35:40.580 Like, whatever, like, it was hysterical that one person
00:35:42.860 who's like making the big scene
00:35:44.940 is like still like is opting for all of us
00:35:47.860 that know in fact we will pay.
00:35:50.660 But setting aside,
00:35:52.240 trying to get it for free or whatever.
00:35:54.700 I actually don't think the answer lies
00:35:56.820 in talking about how terrified you were
00:35:58.100 and all that, okay?
00:35:59.980 Because to me, that's like,
00:36:02.120 it's like if someone breaks into your house,
00:36:04.900 if someone does something like blatantly illegal,
00:36:07.380 you don't have to claim terror
00:36:10.960 for it to have been illegal.
00:36:12.020 Do you see what I'm saying?
00:36:13.140 It almost makes it like you're trying to seek emotional damages
00:36:16.160 for something that was kind of vaguely...
00:36:18.800 Like to me, all of the...
00:36:20.660 As you can imagine, this is very disturbing or whatever.
00:36:23.060 It's a little bit like...
00:36:24.260 It's like suggests you think you don't have a case.
00:36:26.540 Yeah, exactly.
00:36:27.580 As though you don't have a case.
00:36:28.420 Yeah.
00:36:28.820 And to me, it's just like,
00:36:30.220 I would never pay a single dollar to stay in a hotel
00:36:33.300 where I didn't have a room that locked.
00:36:36.400 That's all you can say.
00:36:37.640 Or that gave access to my room to strangers
00:36:40.000 or whatever you want to say.
00:36:41.400 yeah
00:36:42.040 I mean
00:36:42.700 and also
00:36:43.140 maybe you don't care 0.99
00:36:43.920 and who gives a shit 0.99
00:36:44.720 and it's like 0.99
00:36:45.380 it's funny
00:36:46.440 and egregious
00:36:47.900 and
00:36:48.180 and maybe you're kind of like
00:36:49.800 I don't even hate the hotel
00:36:51.140 I don't hate the hotel
00:36:52.260 that's why I'm like
00:36:54.000 because I don't hate the hotel
00:36:55.440 and I even have the thing
00:36:56.280 I'm like
00:36:56.480 well I don't want to
00:36:57.520 cause a fuss
00:36:58.420 and I
00:36:58.800 but why not
00:37:00.260 we're on the boat
00:37:01.520 they're talking about
00:37:02.180 oh
00:37:02.500 Justin Bieber
00:37:03.540 and Jimmy Fallon
00:37:04.540 come here
00:37:05.100 I'm like
00:37:05.720 really
00:37:06.060 pretty sure Jimmy
00:37:06.840 and Justin
00:37:07.880 wouldn't want
00:37:09.000 anyone to have a key 1.00
00:37:10.100 to their fucking room 1.00
00:37:10.900 to come in 1.00
00:37:12.160 at the very least
00:37:14.000 have a glimpse 1.00
00:37:15.140 of their wife's tits. 1.00
00:37:17.220 Right. 1.00
00:37:17.660 At the bare minimum.
00:37:19.100 At the very least.
00:37:21.840 I mean,
00:37:22.580 there's nothing more dangerous
00:37:23.960 in this world
00:37:25.100 than a pack.
00:37:26.040 I know.
00:37:26.500 A pack of drunken Philly lawyers
00:37:28.140 on vacation. 0.97
00:37:28.840 They can disappear bodies.
00:37:30.040 And worse,
00:37:30.360 on a work vacation.
00:37:31.500 They're not there
00:37:31.940 with their family.
00:37:32.860 They do a huddle
00:37:33.600 in the morning.
00:37:34.280 How do we do this?
00:37:35.100 Yeah.
00:37:35.280 My body is sent down
00:37:36.580 the lagoon
00:37:37.200 into the open ocean
00:37:39.160 into the Caribbean Sea.
00:37:40.900 never like wow okay well this is now a law usually it's like a series of errors yeah where you could
00:37:51.500 be really pissed that a series of errors they didn't do this they didn't do this and you just
00:37:56.100 go i'm really disappointed overall because every step of the way you know these things happen and
00:38:00.020 i could have been killed right that kind of thing this is not that this is the most what is the most
00:38:05.180 if you had to come up
00:38:05.820 with the most egregious,
00:38:07.260 you know,
00:38:07.540 just blatant 0.98
00:38:08.840 fuck up you could have, 0.99
00:38:10.700 what more could it be 1.00
00:38:11.600 that they rented out
00:38:12.440 the space under your bed
00:38:13.660 for someone
00:38:14.200 and didn't tell you?
00:38:14.880 It's as close as that.
00:38:17.740 So,
00:38:18.280 we'll see.
00:38:18.840 I can't wait to draft 1.00
00:38:19.840 this fucking email. 1.00
00:38:20.420 I'm going to consult 1.00
00:38:21.060 my friend who,
00:38:22.000 who,
00:38:23.200 because I,
00:38:24.220 first of all,
00:38:24.680 with nut allergy,
00:38:25.540 even though I said
00:38:26.120 I have nut allergy
00:38:26.720 and I ordered a cocktail.
00:38:27.640 Knowing John,
00:38:28.240 John's going to go
00:38:28.840 leave it alone.
00:38:30.360 I think John's going to go,
00:38:31.520 eh,
00:38:31.680 leave it alone.
00:38:32.880 I'm going to go,
00:38:33.860 eh,
00:38:34.380 I don't know about that.
00:38:36.060 Well, there is the thing
00:38:36.820 where it's not just you paying.
00:38:38.880 Like, it's like,
00:38:39.920 it's not just something you bought
00:38:40.980 for the two of you.
00:38:41.940 It's like you both paying.
00:38:43.440 So it's this weird thing
00:38:44.860 where you're almost like,
00:38:45.940 you know, it's sort of both of your...
00:38:47.700 Names being dragged through the mud.
00:38:50.900 I also, you know, don't pay twice, right?
00:38:53.740 Like, I don't count energy
00:38:56.440 discussing on Pooh as failed energy.
00:38:58.480 This is the art of conversation.
00:38:59.720 Because listen, here's what it is.
00:39:01.040 I'm not going to get into a back and forth.
00:39:02.780 I have no urge to like,
00:39:04.100 Like, I'm fine.
00:39:05.500 Three lines.
00:39:06.100 I think it should be free.
00:39:07.280 I think we should be refunded.
00:39:08.860 It's three lines.
00:39:09.700 I think we should be refunded for this day.
00:39:11.480 Other guests had access to my room
00:39:12.980 the entire time unknowingly to me
00:39:15.400 and ultimately knowingly
00:39:16.880 when the worst thing that could possibly happen,
00:39:18.420 a group of drunken men
00:39:19.600 forced their way into our room.
00:39:23.640 We're lucky that violence didn't occur.
00:39:25.740 You're lucky that violence didn't occur. 1.00
00:39:27.220 I could have taken out a fucking knife 1.00
00:39:29.700 and you could have taken out a gun and shot them. 1.00
00:39:31.980 Yeah. 1.00
00:39:32.700 And then they'd be dead. 0.87
00:39:34.100 when it wasn't even their fault. 0.61
00:39:35.880 I know.
00:39:36.280 Violence could have occurred. 0.99
00:39:37.580 Such a fucking good point. 0.99
00:39:38.940 So violence was narrowly escaped. 1.00
00:39:41.220 Yep.
00:39:44.980 Okay.
00:39:45.560 Well, this is,
00:39:46.500 we got to log off,
00:39:47.500 but this is a bonus Pug Law. 0.94
00:39:50.200 Oh my God.
00:39:53.220 Imagine.
00:39:53.980 I'll be represented by Pug.
00:39:55.840 Power suits, 0.87
00:39:57.300 nine inch heels.
00:39:58.820 They march in. 1.00
00:40:00.740 Oh my God.
00:40:01.640 So wait,
00:40:01.820 I texted John.
00:40:03.260 By the way,
00:40:03.800 I'm emailing the hotel
00:40:04.780 for getting more money off
00:40:06.120 with your blessing.
00:40:07.460 More money off.
00:40:08.280 You're hysterical.
00:40:09.040 You're softening it for John.
00:40:10.120 Can you just say it?
00:40:12.280 Except John thinks I'm like,
00:40:13.580 John thinks I always think
00:40:14.500 I'm being robbed.
00:40:15.340 I know.
00:40:16.160 Jacqueline?
00:40:16.740 The whole stay is free.
00:40:18.200 Jacqueline thinks
00:40:19.420 the whole stay.
00:40:22.720 Their lucky violence didn't occur.
00:40:29.260 I'm not saying devote your lives to it.
00:40:31.280 I'm not saying.
00:40:32.000 I'm not going to lose sleep.
00:40:32.740 I'm not going to engage in a big, I don't want to fight,
00:40:35.300 but I'm going to write an email and just go, you know what?
00:40:37.900 I was shocked to receive the bill.
00:40:39.400 Yes, just run it past me, okay?
00:40:40.860 I don't need any softening language in there.
00:40:42.480 Oh, I'm definitely running it past for you.
00:40:43.660 Are you kidding me?
00:40:53.740 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield from The Girlfriends,
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00:41:21.640 Leila dared to ask the question.
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00:41:34.020 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one, who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.
00:41:38.780 I'm not too intimidated by her.
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00:42:58.000 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.
00:43:02.960 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune.
00:43:06.800 It was hard to wrap your head around.
00:43:08.140 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.
00:43:11.780 No, I am not your guru.
00:43:15.540 And back then, I lied to my parents.
00:43:18.180 I lied to police.
00:43:19.440 I lied to everybody.
00:43:20.440 There were years, Ryder, where I could not say your name.
00:43:23.200 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,
00:43:26.100 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,
00:43:28.920 whomever I can, to try to find out what actually happened.
00:43:32.260 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods
00:43:35.180 and not the obvious boyfriend?
00:43:36.840 They have had this case for 30 years. 0.92
00:43:39.780 I'll teach you sons of a** to come around here and my wife. 0.90
00:43:42.820 Boom, boom. 0.97
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00:44:28.900 So Jacqueline, we hang up.
00:44:30.760 All of a sudden I get a call.
00:44:32.800 Call comes in.
00:44:34.020 It's from Jamaica.
00:44:34.980 Wait, did it say the word Jamaica?
00:44:36.700 Yep.
00:44:37.400 Wow.
00:44:38.500 Did any part of you go,
00:44:40.300 I'll let them leave a message, I'm scared?
00:44:41.920 Yes.
00:44:42.700 And then I went, just answer.
00:44:44.120 You're an adult.
00:44:44.800 Just answer.
00:44:45.560 You sent the email. 0.99
00:44:47.160 The woman on the phone was lovely.
00:44:48.960 Extended her apologies.
00:44:51.620 said she's following up with her operations manager
00:44:54.280 and kind of gave it to me straight.
00:44:56.500 I rehashed what happened and I have to say,
00:44:59.840 I said to her, I said, you know,
00:45:00.960 if this had been a glitch and she would,
00:45:03.060 yeah, it was a glitch.
00:45:04.000 I went, it wasn't a glitch. 0.99
00:45:05.580 Yeah, it's not a fucking glitch. 0.98
00:45:06.880 I said, I talked to them 0.95
00:45:08.060 and I was told that their keys worked for our room.
00:45:10.940 Glitch is like a fantasy.
00:45:13.080 It wasn't a glitch.
00:45:13.680 And again, it wasn't a glitch
00:45:14.540 because I was told that their keys worked.
00:45:15.840 Anyway, the point is, and she, God bless her for this. 0.98
00:45:19.400 She kind of was like, shoot straight.
00:45:21.620 She was like, what do you want?
00:45:25.120 Which by the way, I'll just say, listen,
00:45:29.140 and I appreciate Jacqueline, you're- 1.00
00:45:31.620 You fucking asshole. 1.00
00:45:33.780 You're already mad. 1.00
00:45:34.820 I am in literal shock.
00:45:36.200 I was too scared to ask.
00:45:38.220 So listen.
00:45:38.980 No.
00:45:41.300 Oh my God.
00:45:42.380 So I said the term rate reduction.
00:45:45.020 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:45:48.540 This couldn't be worse.
00:45:50.300 What was my email?
00:45:51.620 more about nonviolence okay okay hold on i know listen i was two okay rate reduction okay let's
00:46:01.540 just all right i don't know everything in this world okay but i've watched enough tv
00:46:05.680 to understand that when someone says what do you want like what do you want you go up and then 0.98
00:46:11.540 they bring you down maybe they don't even bring you down they're basically fuck they're basically 0.99
00:46:16.000 saying we want this to end it's like I'm stunned Kate I cannot I'm laughing at myself like 0.99
00:46:26.340 I'm looking at the rain falling outside I'm going wow the fact that the words it's like
00:46:35.640 either it's egregious or it's not god damn it what do you want Kate I wish I had the technology
00:46:41.520 to have made your voice sound like my voice as if it would have mattered I needed someone else to do
00:46:45.900 it i needed a broker i needed a discount broker i needed someone to go in there and go the word
00:46:50.800 discount well this is the thing this is why i want someone to go in there phone calls i think the
00:46:54.660 entire stay should be because it's hard on the phone i am it's hard yeah it's hard on the phone
00:46:59.700 text language is a place where it feels like that's where you can state what you believe
00:47:05.660 and not in desperation to establish rapport at all costs which happens during live conversation
00:47:11.880 start softening the desire.
00:47:13.640 That's why I value email.
00:47:15.800 And so I said,
00:47:18.300 I want the last night free.
00:47:19.620 No, no, no, no.
00:47:20.360 Wait, what happened to rate reduction?
00:47:21.800 No, I'm just, I'm just,
00:47:22.660 you go rate reduction
00:47:23.520 and then dot, dot, dot.
00:47:24.760 She said nothing.
00:47:25.640 Rate reduction.
00:47:26.500 She wasn't, yeah.
00:47:27.180 And then it was kind of like,
00:47:28.220 okay, what?
00:47:29.140 It was like,
00:47:29.880 it was a blur, Jacqueline.
00:47:31.060 I was alone.
00:47:31.840 I was scared.
00:47:32.660 I don't know.
00:47:33.500 I'm literally considering.
00:47:35.820 By the way.
00:47:36.540 You give me the number and I call.
00:47:37.780 Sure.
00:47:38.800 Well, here's the thing, Jacqueline.
00:47:40.320 She didn't say,
00:47:40.940 all right the last night's free she went I'm going to talk to her operations talk about the
00:47:45.020 refund I went thank you you know I'm concerned with being friendly perceived as nice you know
00:47:51.700 I start cowering there she goes and she said and this I thought it's a little bold what was your
00:47:56.760 cowering no me not asking for the whole stay to be comped which I do still think oh okay I thought
00:48:01.080 you said like then you launched into a thing about how beautiful the resort is I did say how beautiful
00:48:04.920 the resort was no you worked that in I said everyone that was there was so wonderful the
00:48:10.160 hospitality was great so this is after you've asked now you're trying to like pad it landing
00:48:14.500 sweeten it and then and then she said she said and this is my email for future stays or if your
00:48:20.380 friends want to come I thought that's interesting so to her it's everything is all and well I don't
00:48:26.800 know I am considering just giving her giving you the number all right let's let's just play this 0.99
00:48:30.960 through she goes this is someone else well I wasn't even suggesting I pretend I'm you oh damn 0.99
00:48:38.180 Who do you, who are you? 0.99
00:48:39.360 My associate, my business associate?
00:48:40.840 Well, I consider that or wild transparency.
00:48:43.620 You say I'm her friend and podcast co-host.
00:48:46.600 I'm sorry.
00:48:47.720 I just overheard half of a conversation
00:48:49.580 and I cannot allow this.
00:48:52.700 The request that my friend doesn't have the courage
00:48:55.000 to ask for, but is absolutely required
00:48:57.960 is a full refund.
00:48:59.780 This is outrageous.
00:49:01.700 Keep going.
00:49:02.220 I'm getting so turned on.
00:49:03.520 like I mean I guess like it's as simple as like I'm going to continue to make this a problem until
00:49:11.300 I don't know I don't know I don't know I just I don't know wow I don't know so much we don't know
00:49:20.320 it's no I'm really wrestling with with all the questions because I'm going I'm wrestling too
00:49:28.120 The fact that after our hard work.
00:49:30.480 You think I threw it all away?
00:49:32.100 Well, of course you did.
00:49:33.420 I mean, after the drafting of the email.
00:49:36.760 She said to me, what do you want?
00:49:38.100 She knows what she's got on her hands. 1.00
00:49:40.860 She's got a little troublemaker. 1.00
00:49:42.880 Wants a free ride.
00:49:46.400 It's so interesting.
00:49:49.340 Did she say want?
00:49:50.340 I think she said, what can I do for you?
00:49:52.180 What can I do for you?
00:49:52.980 I said a couple of times.
00:49:53.720 I forget in the email, did we say,
00:49:56.520 I think the whole stay should be refunded
00:49:59.300 or was it let me know?
00:49:59.860 I said I was shocked to receive a full bill.
00:50:02.140 A bill.
00:50:03.040 Full?
00:50:03.640 Full bill.
00:50:04.160 Did you? 1.00
00:50:04.580 Oh shit, sorry. 1.00
00:50:05.680 Little slut added the word full. 1.00
00:50:07.520 No, I didn't detail. 0.97
00:50:08.940 Have you made any revisions?
00:50:10.380 I didn't make any edits.
00:50:11.960 I didn't make any edits.
00:50:12.900 Just looking to see.
00:50:14.000 Here it is.
00:50:14.620 Here it is.
00:50:15.240 Da da da.
00:50:16.300 Upon reflection.
00:50:18.240 Yeah, you said full, honey.
00:50:20.060 Upon reflection,
00:50:20.760 I'm shocked to receive a full bill for our stay.
00:50:22.700 Oh, right.
00:50:23.220 Right.
00:50:23.560 I see how it could be interpreted both ways.
00:50:25.240 Okay.
00:50:25.920 What I meant was, yeah, full refund.
00:50:28.840 And yeah, that's not clear.
00:50:30.000 I guess there's a few moves here.
00:50:33.300 Okay.
00:50:33.960 Did she give you her info?
00:50:35.340 Yeah, I have her email and I have her number.
00:50:36.780 I have her name. 0.99
00:50:37.480 I know her name. 0.98
00:50:38.020 I booked through her.
00:50:38.920 Oh my God.
00:50:40.080 I booked the stay with her.
00:50:42.580 Exhaustive thread.
00:50:43.400 Because I was booking like three days before arrival.
00:50:46.460 So it was really intense.
00:50:47.220 I was trying to get the least expensive thing
00:50:49.700 and figuring it out.
00:50:50.520 She already knows.
00:50:52.020 Well, here's what's not in my favor.
00:50:53.440 Two things.
00:50:54.200 one i was really trying to go okay well this one's the least expensive we'll split on this you know
00:50:58.380 what i mean you were haggling from the start i had to openly not haggling but i'm trying to get the
00:51:02.220 best i'm trying to stay there for the cheap in the cheapest way right and that's clear the whole
00:51:05.560 time and then this doesn't help this is not good this is not good what in a moment of mania i sent
00:51:10.960 you sent her your account balance i sent her the poog press kit and i said is there any kind of
00:51:16.700 media rate i know we talk about travel a lot on the podcast she said no never even acknowledged 0.98
00:51:23.760 it acknowledge it because celebs go there all the time they don't ask for free shit 0.72
00:51:27.740 so they're like i'm not gonna give they're not gonna give a free ride to right justin bieber 0.95
00:51:33.600 they're not gonna give me a goddamn discount right although i feel like that that model
00:51:39.020 doesn't totally hold because the micro influencer has value you know blah blah blah but um well 0.94
00:51:46.920 it's interesting that the podcast piece was mentioned because then doesn't she know that
00:51:53.440 I'm going crazy on the cast?
00:51:55.220 Yeah.
00:51:55.960 What does that do?
00:51:57.080 I don't know.
00:51:58.140 I just...
00:51:58.740 I know.
00:51:59.080 We need like...
00:51:59.680 What happened?
00:52:00.360 So you didn't even get the confirmation?
00:52:02.320 I got to ask the manager?
00:52:03.500 She says she's going back to the operations director.
00:52:05.200 They're going to talk about it. 1.00
00:52:05.980 This is pathetic. 1.00
00:52:07.100 Oh, God. 0.99
00:52:08.200 No, I just mean that like...
00:52:11.300 I mean...
00:52:12.460 I find it...
00:52:14.060 I don't know, Kate.
00:52:15.460 I know.
00:52:15.800 This is...
00:52:16.120 I'm really...
00:52:16.540 I mean, it's...
00:52:17.820 I keep wanting to go like,
00:52:19.100 it's not about the money or something.
00:52:20.880 I don't even know what I'm trying to say.
00:52:23.100 I think it's just, maybe just shoot off an email.
00:52:26.100 You go, look, I just got on the phone and I got panicked on the phone.
00:52:32.020 I really think the stay should be comped entirely.
00:52:35.280 And I cannot recommend this resort to anybody if you don't take responsibility for, you know.
00:52:43.320 Okay, let's get you firing off another draft.
00:52:45.460 I don't know why I'm fighting this.
00:52:47.440 No, I want you to fight it because by the way.
00:52:48.640 I don't know why I'm fighting this so hard.
00:52:50.200 I want a free stay.
00:52:50.860 Are you kidding? 0.99
00:52:51.880 Are you fucking kidding? 0.99
00:52:52.580 I'm just shocked because here's the thing 1.00
00:52:54.360 like you're like the cold hearted 1.00
00:52:56.500 bitch I love when you call me that I know 1.00
00:52:58.180 where is she now 1.00
00:53:00.080 okay I don't know
00:53:02.360 what the answer is here
00:53:04.040 I don't know
00:53:05.660 what principles apply
00:53:07.840 I don't know who we want to be in this world
00:53:10.300 okay
00:53:10.760 I am only
00:53:14.180 devastated that you
00:53:16.300 took a particular stance
00:53:17.920 and then retracted well guess what
00:53:19.940 here's what's in our favor sweetheart
00:53:21.660 it was the phone
00:53:23.320 nothing's in writing
00:53:24.540 there she is
00:53:29.300 okay there she is
00:53:30.960 I want you to know
00:53:31.780 that I love you
00:53:33.620 if you draft up
00:53:37.080 another Novak
00:53:38.340 if you draft up another
00:53:40.800 sent from the law offices
00:53:42.440 of Jacqueline Novak
00:53:43.800 email
00:53:45.620 I will
00:53:46.760 absolutely
00:53:48.540 send that through
00:53:49.600 the phone call is
00:53:50.340 in the wind
00:53:51.440 right? I was distracted. It's not on paper.
00:53:53.880 Yeah. So you don't even have to acknowledge
00:53:55.520 what was or wasn't discussed
00:53:57.400 on the phone call. Don't create a paper trail
00:53:59.480 there. Genius, genius, genius.
00:54:01.260 Okay, you just say, hey, you can acknowledge
00:54:03.480 that a phone call occurred. Appreciate you calling me. Yeah, appreciate you
00:54:05.460 calling me. You asked me what you can do for me
00:54:07.620 given the situation.
00:54:09.380 There it is. I think the stay should be comped.
00:54:11.640 Like, I think that's the right thing to
00:54:13.440 do. It will make it so that I want to
00:54:15.360 come back to your resort in the future and
00:54:17.380 recommend it to others. That's what's
00:54:19.300 necessary to feel that you
00:54:21.240 guys take this seriously and then I can happily come back to this resort and recommend it and 0.99
00:54:26.060 then you draw the poog press kit again that's a joke that's really good and you know you also say 0.89
00:54:30.480 and I hope the issue will be remedied so that keys only work for the the person yeah okay draw
00:54:36.600 it up it's going out draw it up it's going out after some back and forth on email I was able to
00:54:45.140 secure a one-night refund. Jacqueline's desire to get the full stay refunded. I admire that.
00:54:52.740 I was unable to secure that. But the one night was on the house.
00:54:59.600 That was POOG. If you enjoyed POOG, please subscribe, rate, and review. If not, we will
00:55:06.780 press charges.
00:55:12.420 I myself have been asked, would I return?
00:55:16.220 I don't know the answer.
00:55:18.620 I don't know the answer.
00:55:20.280 And therein lies the continued, persistent mystery of life, really.
00:55:28.780 Bye.
00:55:29.600 Then she says, have you seen a photo of my son?
00:55:32.400 And I'm like, who is this person?
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