Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - REMIX： The Road to GOYK

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00:02:39.440 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

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00:02:54.140 You guys, this remix is out of sheer necessity.

00:02:56.780 Kate and I are in the midst of just really going for it out in this world.

00:03:02.760 So in the spirit of that, my special has just come out on Netflix.

00:03:06.460 I'd really like you to watch it if you haven't already.

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00:03:13.080 And this episode is kindly pulling moments of nostalgia for me and my show,

00:03:20.520 So it's just been a backdrop, a silent backdrop, sneaking in the corners of our poop conversations

00:03:28.660 for the last few years.

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00:03:41.180 So Chris is on the couch.

00:03:42.700 We're in a studio apartment in New York temporarily.

00:03:45.240 And Mabel is sleeping in the window and it's pouring rain behind her.

00:03:50.520 New York City oh beautiful storm in New York City in the summertime you know we raced back

00:03:57.300 to get to get inside because the droplets began to fall and I have a cold I just thought everyone

00:04:03.140 should know oh my god and it's wild you know when you get these colds it's just shocking

00:04:09.260 because it's like it's really not remember what it's like until you're in it living in fear of

00:04:14.380 a cold is what's defined so much of my life really oh yeah I never worry never think about it

00:04:19.860 suddenly oh my god i i you're not gonna believe well it's not it's not that exciting but the

00:04:26.140 other night so the first night of my cold i'm on stage and i've taken pseudofed and i'm basically

00:04:30.560 breathing pretty clear as the show goes on i'm feeling like my nose is about to drip

00:04:35.560 and i make like and i'm like i don't want to be sniffing into the microphone that disgusting

00:04:39.920 sound particularly like you know of like mucus like getting back further in my throat or whatever

00:04:45.080 i'm like i don't want to hear it so i'm trying to relax and not like do the sniffing and like

00:04:49.040 just like let it sort of and then i'm like but like hoping it doesn't fall out of my nose right

00:04:53.540 just like clear runny liquid like just that pure clear true beginning of a cold run it's not even

00:04:59.860 that disgusting it's like so clear and like like watery but still and then there was a moment where

00:05:04.680 i almost like exhaled forcefully and felt like i was about to like it was going to come out of my

00:05:08.660 nose and so i like put the microphone down on the on the side of thing and i said hold on one second

00:05:13.200 talk amongst yourselves I have to blow my nose and I stepped off stage blew my nose and came back

00:05:20.420 they were like it's a plant well there was a there was a fly there no I didn't do anything

00:05:24.340 interesting about it but there's been a fly actually interestingly enough luciferian okay

00:05:29.780 there's been there's been some flies in the theater and um and you know I deal with them

00:05:34.640 to varying degrees depending on kind of how active they are how present they're making themselves and

00:05:38.660 i have some little bits you know little jokes i make about the flies and someone after the show

00:05:43.940 um a friend of someone who works on the show was like said to her he said flat the flies a trick

00:05:50.020 of the light right like the flies a light trick right they were like no like the fly i mean that's

00:05:54.320 scripted right like they were like it has to be scripted right like like me and the jokes about

00:05:59.060 the flies they're like it's so it's like a light trick that's why we need theater i know isn't

00:06:02.960 that beautiful the inability to reckon with what is real what is false what is i mean that is just

00:06:10.360 i love that that's why i love it so much theater it also makes you feel like that that it felt so

00:06:15.260 inevitable that it must have been scripted yeah is like lovely to me but i do i do it yeah isn't

00:06:20.880 that like do you think life is scripted in the sense of like sort of automatons or whatever

00:06:27.380 the way we think i was okay do you think that um we know okay this sounds kind of ridiculous but

00:06:35.800 sometimes i'm like we know everything that's gonna happen to us i know that that's not true

00:06:40.400 okay i know of course that's not true but do i there's part of me that thinks that we know

00:06:45.140 that we know everything right well there's that idea the occurred i forget if who's if it's like

00:06:52.800 young or like nietzsche but eternal recurrence or something it's like it's like we're like

00:06:56.940 we're cycling through the same like we're living the same life like over and over again

00:07:00.800 uh you know and or something and it's sort of like and there are key points um you know it's

00:07:08.560 almost like a spiral where like but you can make slight changes and then arrive in a different

00:07:13.880 place i like that i like that i mean i think i think if i'm talking about is obviously we don't

00:07:17.780 you know acts of god you know coconut falls from a tree and hits you on the head like things like

00:07:21.580 that primary although I talk about that so much that does happen to me that I knew but yeah I

00:07:26.020 guess I'm talking about I think about in terms of you know maybe relationships you know it's like

00:07:31.320 you know like we know we know what we know what's gonna happen my mother who I'm gonna see today who

00:07:38.320 went to get on your knees oh my god with one of her oldest best friends loved it we talked wait

00:07:43.320 I'm on air because you haven't told me tell me yes by the way when have you been around my mom

00:07:47.500 Um, at your house, like twice.

00:07:49.980 So a long time ago.

00:07:50.880 Okay.

00:07:51.240 Um, yeah, I'm trying to think.

00:07:53.320 She loved it.

00:07:54.040 You felt it.

00:07:54.940 It was one of the finest reactions I've ever received to the show.

00:07:58.300 Oh, this is huge.

00:07:59.160 Give it to me.

00:08:00.180 Okay.

00:08:00.540 Okay.

00:08:00.780 Like I was like, I almost was like, oh, I wonder if Kate understands like, like how good the reaction was.

00:08:07.240 No, I don't.

00:08:08.140 Okay.

00:08:08.520 It was like, it was like, you know, stay behind in the theater or whatever.

00:08:12.080 like I'll come

00:08:12.580 so the guy comes over

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00:08:15.640 you know

00:08:16.560 Helen's out there

00:08:17.660 okay

00:08:17.960 or whatever

00:08:18.420 she's like dramatizing it

00:08:20.260 so I walk out

00:08:21.040 I love it

00:08:21.440 I love it

00:08:22.520 you're walking out

00:08:24.320 you see Helen

00:08:24.920 standing down

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00:08:26.300 house right

00:08:26.820 okay

00:08:27.080 you see her

00:08:27.880 yeah

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00:08:31.500 a blonde 1.00

00:08:32.160 yeah 1.00

00:08:32.520 and you know

00:08:34.760 I immediately go in

00:08:35.620 I'm just excited

00:08:36.620 that she's there

00:08:37.300 it's not like

00:08:38.440 I'm not walking out

00:08:39.380 with a Helen

00:08:39.820 what do you think

00:08:40.520 energy

00:08:40.880 I'm walking out

00:08:41.740 with the excited that Helen's there,

00:08:43.060 I get to say hi to her kind of vibe.

00:08:44.500 Yeah. 0.99

00:08:45.520 And she really seemed gobsmacked. 0.87

00:08:48.860 Yeah.

00:08:49.200 Okay.

00:08:49.740 I don't know this word.

00:08:50.620 Okay.

00:08:51.200 No, she was like,

00:08:52.680 she immediately launched into,

00:08:54.500 it was,

00:08:54.900 I was thinking about it later

00:08:56.180 because I was thinking about how you and me are like,

00:08:58.120 people don't know how to compliment.

00:08:59.460 Like, you know what I mean? 0.99

00:09:00.820 And she fucking knew. 0.98

00:09:02.000 Like, your language better transcend. 0.99

00:09:05.020 Okay.

00:09:05.660 The form of the compliment.

00:09:07.300 So she's like,

00:09:08.120 she's not even just like,

00:09:08.920 that was great.

00:09:09.620 Like, she goes like,

00:09:11.740 that was a tornado that she just started saying like like words yeah you you're the weather or

00:09:17.560 something like you know what I mean like oh my god like that like that was a she didn't even say

00:09:21.460 like it wasn't even like you're a force of nature like someone else might say yeah like it would be

00:09:25.560 like I walked out and she's like a house just fell on me you know what I mean it was like it was it

00:09:29.380 was very you in that way like the just absolute artistry of hyperbole through metaphor launched

00:09:36.520 instantly into the language of metaphor it was you know it filled me up oh I'm so glad

00:09:44.340 it's genuine I mean and she's just a you know woman for the ages she's just got unbelievable

00:09:51.220 can you believe her I mean she's everything that everyone you know perhaps gets through you but

00:09:57.240 but I think she's just so warm that's the thing I'm wondering if maybe like the way you describe

00:10:01.380 her like oh well Helen would never Helen's dinner party is or whatever like almost like if they

00:10:06.160 would think that she wouldn't be so warm, but she's so warm. Oh, she is. It's crazy. And it's

00:10:09.660 real. It's outrageous. Always trying to take a lesson from her book. Yeah. No, it was heavenly.

00:10:16.100 Oh my God. I'm so glad. It was such an affirmation coming from her. And completely real because she

00:10:21.860 also is very, because I, again, I haven't actually even talked to her on the phone yet, which is

00:10:25.600 shocking. I'm going to see her today, but she was like, I forgot what she said, but she was just

00:10:29.840 like unbelievable. You know, she was like laughing the whole time. And because Helen, she would say

00:10:34.800 to me, she would, you know, she would say to me, like, she just, I would know if she wasn't truly

00:10:39.220 floored. I just want to be acknowledged and honored for the fact that I set up a recording

00:10:44.440 studio arm here in the Ramble Hotel in Denver, where I'm stuck for five days. Quarantine.

00:10:53.800 You're stuck in the hotel because you have COVID-19. Well, I haven't seen you yet. You look,

00:10:58.960 you look good. Feeling phenomenal right now because I'm excited to have some communication.

00:11:03.700 are you loving it are you kind of loving being quarantined the first morning was you know a

00:11:10.100 dream okay because here's here's how it unfolded are you ready it's pretty much as good as you can

00:11:13.380 get if you're gonna get if you're gonna get COVID right it's midnight okay okay so one I'm like the

00:11:21.740 only person masking in the country okay you're literally the most COVID careful person I know

00:11:26.680 well top two yeah and who's top one my friend you don't have to say them but yeah my friend

00:11:34.180 my friend yeah um so just to be dead ass clear i have not been perfect i had coffees in the lobby

00:11:43.580 of the ludlow with you in which the mask was around the neck and i was cackling up a storm

00:11:47.860 and embracing cackles i mean others were a good eight feet away i'd say men often 12 to 24 but

00:11:54.700 whatever. So I'll just acknowledge that. Masked at the merch table while people who are buying

00:12:00.880 the merch are not masked. I'm not blaming them. You have no idea how you got it. No.

00:12:04.940 When's the last time you had it? Last July. I just passed the year mark for myself.

00:12:09.200 And I did have the booster two and a half weeks ago before I left for tour.

00:12:13.080 Interesting. I just want to be dead clear. What I was starting to say about the merch table was

00:12:16.820 that I felt this horrible guilt, these pictures of me posing next to people when I definitely

00:12:20.660 like had it and i'm like well i was masked and they're not so like amazing you were a mask i was

00:12:25.720 doing my part but do you want to hear the the dream experience i think is as good as you can get

00:12:32.220 yeah so it's midnight okay i'm here in denver great hotel the ramble hotel which by the way 0.97

00:12:37.420 was a poog hag wreck oh great people spoke up and tagged the hotel so and thank god i went for the 0.99

00:12:43.780 big room that i could do tracy in because the gym is tiny they said so i was like all right fine 1.00

00:12:48.220 That's not what this hotel's about.

00:12:49.380 They're about the death and cocktail.

00:12:51.060 So I'm going to choose the room with the space that you're chasing.

00:12:53.340 Thank God, thank God.

00:12:54.760 So, midnight.

00:12:57.220 Sitting there going.

00:12:58.160 I text Chris.

00:12:58.780 I go, planning Holyoke the day after Denver was a mistake.

00:13:03.820 Okay?

00:13:04.620 Because I have to fly into the BDL.

00:13:07.060 There's a stop in Minneapolis.

00:13:08.440 What the hell is that?

00:13:09.080 It's like, I don't know, Hartford, Springfield, that area.

00:13:12.820 Okay.

00:13:13.500 Always interesting the places that are like, you know, Hartford International.

00:13:16.300 It's like weird.

00:13:16.780 It's like you're flying to Italy from, like, Hartford, Connecticut.

00:13:19.920 Connecticut.

00:13:20.560 Yeah, yeah.

00:13:21.980 So I'm like, this was a mistake.

00:13:23.520 And my throat had felt dry the night before on stage.

00:13:26.060 I remember you saying.

00:13:27.540 I was told by others it might be the high altitude of Denver,

00:13:31.240 that the air is not only high, but thin, dry.

00:13:35.220 So I already had a Vicks, big Vicks.

00:13:37.700 Now, I say that why?

00:13:38.680 Because I shipped home my canopy with a bunch of merch that I couldn't haul with me

00:13:41.840 because my tour manager got sick and had to go home.

00:13:44.440 So it flew.

00:13:44.900 okay so whatever just so people know that's why the canopy wasn't with me blazing i was like it's

00:13:51.540 fine it's fine so i got the fix going in my room thank god i'm lying there and i'm like oh my god

00:13:55.700 the flight is at 6 a.m hell i'm like why i'm like surely there's another surely there's another i

00:13:59.900 go through the same research process lying there going to change same day change same day change

00:14:03.760 delta and and like there's nothing and i'm like there's literally no way so i'm lying there and 0.97

00:14:09.720 i'm like and i'm fucking like i feel sick i'm like i'm getting a cold it's a fucking cold 0.96

00:14:13.800 Like, of course it is 0.98

00:14:15.640 Touching a million surfaces

00:14:16.960 And I'm like, you know, I'll just take a COVID test

00:14:20.160 And I gotta say

00:14:22.500 It was one of those

00:14:25.040 To say hoping for COVID is wrong

00:14:27.680 Okay

00:14:28.940 Yeah, yeah

00:14:30.100 But there's something about

00:14:33.520 I thought you were at 6am flight, baby

00:14:35.000 Yeah, there's something about

00:14:36.320 I've talked about this before

00:14:37.280 With survivable illness that you know you're going to survive

00:14:40.780 And you're not truly suffering

00:14:41.740 Like similar to taking one's temp

00:14:43.520 I believe if you're taking your temperature,

00:14:45.080 it's because you're hoping for a fever on some level.

00:14:46.640 You're hoping for validation.

00:14:49.500 Okay, anytime you put a thermometer in your mouth, you pray.

00:14:52.420 Okay, every time you put a thermometer in your mouth,

00:14:55.000 you pull it out, it's devastated.

00:14:56.380 98.6, you're like, you know, I'm making it universal.

00:14:59.940 It might not be universal, but there's something there.

00:15:02.280 So I'm like, let's just take the test, see what's happening.

00:15:04.400 Because if it's 7 a.m. and I'm waiting in the lobby of a Comfort Inn in Holyoke,

00:15:10.500 okay, I'm able to check into a room.

00:15:11.980 And that's when I realized I have it like, no.

00:15:15.220 Right.

00:15:15.900 Yeah.

00:15:16.260 So I'm going to just take it.

00:15:18.340 The test tube's like sitting there on the thing.

00:15:20.680 Like, whatever.

00:15:21.260 OK, I kind of like forget for a minute.

00:15:25.100 I like glanced.

00:15:26.080 I'm like, oh, right.

00:15:26.600 The test.

00:15:27.140 OK, it's like five minutes later.

00:15:28.520 I glance over.

00:15:29.740 It's like a pink and blue line are shining out of the test tube.

00:15:33.680 They're like projected on the opposite wall.

00:15:36.160 Yeah, yeah.

00:15:36.760 Like light from the lamp is hitting it.

00:15:38.160 And it's like, I'm like, I can see pink and blue from here.

00:15:40.700 Like, I was like, oh, my God.

00:15:42.460 And then begins, like, the text thread of wanting to be witnessed.

00:15:45.540 Of course.

00:15:46.020 I have COVID.

00:15:47.320 I think I woke up to the text.

00:15:48.860 Yeah.

00:15:49.120 Yeah.

00:15:49.460 Yeah.

00:15:49.720 If you did.

00:15:50.260 If you did.

00:15:50.720 I remember where I was.

00:15:51.360 There was, like, silence for a while until morning.

00:15:53.620 Except for Chris.

00:15:54.480 Okay.

00:15:55.300 Actually, it was funny.

00:15:56.500 My parents.

00:15:57.720 My dad.

00:15:58.220 Rare.

00:15:59.460 Cursor.

00:16:00.140 Like, certainly not.

00:16:01.400 Written down. 1.00

00:16:03.040 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:16:06.280 My mom. 1.00

00:16:07.000 Your dad curses rarely.

00:16:08.280 I feel like I cursed in his presence the other night

00:16:11.140 No in handwriting

00:16:12.160 And also like as an adult

00:16:14.780 He's like let like I mean like I'm an adult

00:16:17.060 He's like let loose more

00:16:18.620 Okay but it still makes me laugh a little bit

00:16:21.020 Anytime I hear him like him say like 0.99

00:16:22.920 Oh fuck or something like it's like 1.00

00:16:24.460 I can't believe it 1.00

00:16:25.340 You're just talking by the way suddenly I feel sick

00:16:28.060 Not to make it about me

00:16:30.480 I'm hearing you and I'm like

00:16:31.700 I've never minded someone making it about that

00:16:33.620 Because I'm shocked that I didn't get sick

00:16:35.780 And that I haven't

00:16:37.420 Yeah. Knock, knock. Make sure that the superstition fairies flying around you don't

00:16:43.000 decide to descend on you for your lack of respect for the gods. I know. 0.97

00:16:47.220 They're serving it up. But anyway, so I'm like, oh my God, I don't have to get up. Okay. Now

00:16:52.140 there's also a thing which is I feel sick. So I'm, it's not wrong that I don't want to get up.

00:16:57.120 No, no. It's not like, like I'm being rude to the people of Holyoke. I was devastated

00:17:01.280 to have to. It's completely out of your control. So whatever. Anyway, I was like, okay, cancel,

00:17:07.100 cancel cancel I had this call like it's just like so whatever but it's real it's like I'm

00:17:12.820 literally calling Amex because I booked through sympathy for a little bit of love yeah I'm

00:17:21.060 calling them just so after four presses of a phone tree I can hear someone say thank you for

00:17:25.900 being a member for three years yeah yeah go to sleep peacefully do you ever like are you ever

00:17:31.320 awkwardness where you lay the phone on your chest like where you're that kind of resigned ill slash

00:17:37.240 tired you just lay the radiating phone on your chest on speaker on the heart chakra yeah

00:17:42.980 and I was like hey I booked a hotel in Boston like for like like three hours ago it's like I

00:17:51.640 gotta cancel now and they're like it's past midnight so the hotel's policy is that you have

00:17:57.240 They pay for the first night.

00:17:59.140 And I'm like, but I booked it two hours ago.

00:18:01.140 And like, you know, the whole thing.

00:18:02.280 And they're like, we'll call.

00:18:04.040 And I'm like, this is the concierge I prayed for when I signed up.

00:18:06.760 We'll call?

00:18:07.580 Yeah, so then they put you on hold where they call.

00:18:09.940 Wow.

00:18:11.180 They threaten the hotel.

00:18:12.880 Yeah.

00:18:13.680 This is why some places don't take Amex. 1.00

00:18:17.960 Because they'll like defend your ass at all costs or whatever. 0.99

00:18:20.280 By the way, another Amex ad, which by the way, literally, how dare, how dare I? 0.99

00:18:27.240 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.

00:18:36.960 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.

00:18:42.180 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune.

00:18:46.200 It was hard to wrap your head around.

00:18:47.520 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

00:18:51.160 So no, I am not your guru.

00:18:54.360 and back then i lied to my parents i lied to police i lied to everybody there were years

00:19:00.780 right where i could not say your name i've decided to go back to my hometown in northern

00:19:04.720 california interview my friends family talk to police journalists whomever i can to try to find

00:19:09.960 out what actually happened isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods

00:19:14.580 and not the obvious boyfriend they have had this case for 30 years i'll teach you sons of

00:19:20.220 You come around here with my wife.

00:19:22.160 Boom, boom.

00:19:23.500 This is The Red Weather.

00:19:26.460 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app,

00:19:29.080 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

00:19:34.240 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, from The Girlfriends,

00:19:37.300 the number one hit true crime show

00:19:39.960 that puts women right in the center of their own stories.

00:19:43.800 I'm back with more one-off interviews 1.00

00:19:46.200 with some truly kick-ass women on The Girlfriend's Spotlight. 1.00

00:19:51.140 I want to introduce you to Sylvia. 0.97

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00:22:08.100 I used to sort of be irritated as a child with this sense of the twinkly eyed genius of Robin Williams.

00:22:18.160 OK, like literally at 11 used to bother you.

00:22:21.500 OK, I was sort of like I was irritated by the concept of like a comedic genius.

00:22:29.700 And then like the wild, like literal twinkle in the eyes of Robin Williams.

00:22:36.300 right and and arguably you might say like some of it is like that there's a bit him in me okay

00:22:43.820 I'm a little twinkly eyed yeah yeah okay and energized and the whole thing okay so it's like

00:22:48.720 it's like whatever but in the stage yeah yeah so one night so it was almost like a bit of like

00:22:56.520 observational humor of like when I have to cut in with a really quick I have to cut in because

00:23:01.200 it's about what you're saying please one of the most embarrassing things you could ever see a

00:23:04.540 performer do and it's also part of the performer's job and i've seen robin williams do this and this

00:23:08.420 is bringing up for me break picture no no picture a comedian like a robin williams i'm terrified

00:23:14.440 stalking the stage right walking the stage loving it in a theater in a theater this is the most

00:23:19.920 embarrassing thing and it happens and it has to happen when the actor looks up to acknowledge the

00:23:24.860 balcony so the eyes right they're they're performing right looking straight ahead looking

00:23:32.220 straight ahead they project upward look upward eyes searching to greet those in the mezzanine

00:23:38.680 and that is what and by the way it has to happen and it's the mark of theater and that is why also

00:23:43.520 theater acting is one of the most humiliating embarrassing false acts and it's i mean it's

00:23:48.540 it is one of the most embarrassing thing a person can do is get on a stage and be like

00:23:52.580 ha and like say the words and project i mean it is just it is um well that's where i decided

00:23:57.800 It's nobility lies ultimately in the willingness to do something that embarrassing.

00:24:02.760 Absolutely.

00:24:03.220 I mean, you're nailed up there on the cross.

00:24:05.480 You're like, yeah.

00:24:06.860 I mean, it's but to watch someone, to watch their eyes go up to project to the mezzanine.

00:24:12.260 And we continue.

00:24:12.660 So I was doing that in, I forget where I was.

00:24:16.260 It was a theater that had like weeks back.

00:24:18.740 I don't know, like a month, two months ago or something.

00:24:20.820 Theater that had like a structure that it felt like there was a mezzanine.

00:24:25.140 It felt like there was a balcony, but there wasn't.

00:24:26.660 wasn't. And the lights were so bright on me that during the show, I kind of couldn't remember if

00:24:32.100 there were people up there. I mean, not the question of an empty mez, but the question.

00:24:38.660 Was there even a mezzanine? And I threw a gaze to them more than once just to make sure they

00:24:43.040 were taken care of and lights come on at the end of the show. That's a pro. Nothing there.

00:24:49.020 I went to the store today to buy retail display things as a management of my anxiety. It's

00:24:56.020 different. Instead of feeling the feelings, I like to, as you know, get into modular storage

00:25:01.960 solutions. Okay. So, so, so right now I, there's a lot of anxiety naturally as I am, uh, doing my

00:25:08.980 show. We're about a weekend and we've just extended. So I think I, oh, I think I did announce,

00:25:14.100 well, whatever. There goes the chair again. Um, so there's a lot going on, but I also can't spend

00:25:19.160 all day feeling anxious about the show. So I like to put it into other things. And right now that's

00:25:22.860 about merch and dice sales okay it's about pushing merch and so today i got an sl2 um sorry those

00:25:30.140 are some of the terms for grid walls uh grid wall displays it was actually a nightmare where i was

00:25:35.100 trying to look up yeah okay picture a grid of wire and things hanging on it got it it's that

00:25:40.600 standing on two i've been to a concert or two exactly standing on two legs just break in and

00:25:45.560 say poog merch will drop i repeat poog merch will drop just stay just stay with us stay don't i

00:25:52.040 don't want you to be there thinking oh we haven't even considered trust me we've considered me we

00:25:56.960 drafted from the beginning we're brewing up some great stuff wait but but i'm dying to tell you so

00:26:01.240 so i so i hauled ass today over to the garment district okay and oh i found a store it was

00:26:07.660 really hard to search for it because try searching a store for things to that are for stores try

00:26:14.640 googling that go to the wall store to buy a wall exactly okay but it's worse it's going to the

00:26:20.760 store store to buy a store. Okay. Cause I'm trying to set up retail display. So I'm Googling like

00:26:25.760 retail store. Okay. It's hell. I mean, I would be so profoundly like the fact that you're even

00:26:31.640 engaging in this realm at all is so foreign to me and so shocking. No. So, so like I get very,

00:26:37.960 very excited at night. Last night I come home and exhausted, but the way that I kick back is by

00:26:41.880 looking at Uline and other such, you know, industrial sites and trying to put together,

00:26:46.680 this, this tower. Okay. This, I want it rolling. I want it folding. I want it mobile. Okay. It's

00:26:52.300 gotta be mobile. It's gotta be folding. It's gotta be, I'm not getting folding. Unfortunately,

00:26:55.980 they'll have to wait. I want to string my flag from the back of it. So it's a photo booth on

00:26:59.980 one side for fans to take pictures and a post. And the other side is where the merch hangs and

00:27:05.240 is sold. Um, and, and, and, uh, so I went over there and I, it was really fun. It was very

00:27:12.080 new york classic the woman in there you know what i mean um oh the woman's in there the woman

00:27:18.440 she's in there really a real classic new york um type taking me through it pulling out the catalog

00:27:24.700 me going but what do you have in store you know the fear that you go in they start pulling out

00:27:29.100 the catalog anyway brick and mortar brick and mortar supply the brick and mortar they can't

00:27:34.320 burn us down i mean truly nothing like a brick and mortar she was saying like we might not have

00:27:39.920 everything because like the embargoes or whatever she was like she was like there's real embargo

00:27:44.100 she's like there's real issues with supply chain right now and everything she's like i remember in

00:27:47.820 97 when when uh you couldn't get um rhinestones but but now she's like and now you just can't get

00:27:54.900 anything god damn anyway so there's these huge things i'm standing in there and there's this

00:27:59.300 point that comes where i've added up the different pieces there's and but this is why i don't 0.92

00:28:02.940 generally don't like shopping with someone actually helping me right this is why i say i'm just

00:28:06.520 browsing let me look is because then I feel like I can't back out after they've helped me right and

00:28:10.680 so I get to this point and then and then Chris comes to meet me he's like where are you I'm like

00:28:14.360 I'm at you know this place on 35th and he's like I'll come meet you and then he rolls up and I'm

00:28:19.020 like I'm like assessing whether I need this basket okay this like special basket to store like the

00:28:26.320 the t-shirts on the thing at the bottom like I'm just imagining everything oh that'll make it easier

00:28:30.160 for Ben to grab the you know and and Chris is like I see his face change and he's just like

00:28:35.180 there is no problem with the merch table yeah like as is like there's no problem here that

00:28:42.880 you're solving no that's why we need people to step in we need people to intervene but i was

00:28:46.840 like now now the guy's hauling the heavy six foot i went for six feet tall heavy grids okay up from

00:28:55.320 downstairs and i'm looking at chris going oh god okay but then i was like no i was like no i was 0.92

00:29:01.220 like this actually gives me a lot of joy and happiness to build the stupid little merch card 0.89

00:29:05.620 oh so you got you went with it and so i fucking went for it and and i i'm gonna post pics i'm so 0.97

00:29:10.840 excited to hang little things i got a little lucite knob you know and oh god it's just i'm 0.94

00:29:15.780 so excited to get clips and ribbons and things and i like to build i built i built a couch i

00:29:22.600 built a couch out of blocks once as a child it was immensely satisfying building blocks

00:29:26.120 and then i sat on it very carefully very gently because it wasn't nailed together of course it

00:29:31.540 was just blocks you're a builder meanwhile thank you kate thank you nothing no you shouldn't what

00:29:39.960 would you have in response to no it's a shocking anecdote uh you know it's one of those shocking

00:29:45.140 things i've revealed on on uh pook and then and then i saw things like oh little round things

00:29:49.880 kids holding up honey mama's chocolate she's gonna say something about it but i just wanna say one

00:29:52.800 thing which is like i started to see little displays for things like oh you can buy this

00:29:56.200 to put on your retail display and then i was like oh i want i need to sell something so that i can

00:29:59.400 get that little thing to rest that you rested upon like i wanted the jewelry display all right i'm

00:30:04.340 sorry kate can't blame you for it your boredom is fair reasonable and naked i'm genuinely impressed

00:30:11.060 and excited for you and i i what about when kate does that it's so funny it's because the listener

00:30:16.520 can hear how there's a kindness in it you know there's there is a kind of because i'm not i just

00:30:20.800 I'm truly like I'm listening.

00:30:22.640 No, I mean, I mean, like, like, you know, yeah, you're like I'm listening and it's completely illegible to me.

00:30:30.320 But it's just, you know, it's this is what makes the world go round to have friends with different interests.

00:30:34.660 Uline is what makes the world go round.

00:30:37.140 So I'll say this.

00:30:38.780 When this episode comes out, tickets will be on sale for my New York special taping.

00:30:46.220 Huge.

00:30:46.940 New York.

00:30:47.220 Filming of my of Get Underneath.

00:30:49.060 special taping and you know i'm calling so moved yeah i just got chills i told my mom i was like

00:30:55.620 i was like hey i'm flying to new york because it's it's the night of my parents anniversary

00:30:59.440 oh my god normally i'd have dinner with them i was like i'm gonna fly to new york that night

00:31:03.100 because i have to make jacqueline's taping and she said of course she said she said doesn't

00:31:07.840 matter we'll just do a dinner another yeah another night yeah yeah i'm very moved by it and almost

00:31:12.520 couldn't as i was telling you like i was just like giving you the date like because it's june 9th

00:31:17.800 But whatever.

00:31:18.700 And jokes,

00:31:20.000 but whatever.

00:31:23.340 So I am in this,

00:31:25.160 wait,

00:31:25.300 I forgot why I brought it up.

00:31:26.460 You were talking about me saying that I was going to come to the special

00:31:28.660 and that you couldn't fully acknowledge it.

00:31:29.700 Oh,

00:31:29.820 I couldn't fully acknowledge it because it's like,

00:31:33.680 you know how I fear like plans and stuff like that.

00:31:36.680 Yeah,

00:31:36.700 of course.

00:31:37.340 And so it's almost like making that real that that's happening.

00:31:42.840 And I have for better or worse,

00:31:46.380 built it up into what I can only assume

00:31:51.840 is what a wedding is for some people.

00:31:53.600 Well, absolutely.

00:31:56.140 And it is like,

00:31:58.000 it is ramped up 1.00

00:32:00.680 poog kind of shit for me, right? 0.99

00:32:05.180 With like, I'm like, 0.99

00:32:06.900 so I'm under two months.

00:32:09.220 And even like phrases like that, 0.98

00:32:10.620 when you get into shit like that. 0.98

00:32:11.360 No, you're doing wedding prep. 1.00

00:32:12.080 You're hardcore.

00:32:12.960 I mean, I see you're sending me,

00:32:14.380 Jacqueline sends me videos of her doing Tracy 1.00

00:32:15.980 And I go, your ass looks incredible. 1.00

00:32:18.440 It's just shocking. 1.00

00:32:19.440 I still feel that the videos I send you, 0.97

00:32:21.580 I pick the clips where like the leggings

00:32:24.160 and the lighting are doing a lot of work.

00:32:25.980 But yeah, I'm working out.

00:32:27.900 And then, but it's like this thing about being,

00:32:30.160 it's like, I want to be in peak performance.

00:32:32.320 Yeah, of course.

00:32:32.920 And then it's taking the last number of years.

00:32:34.660 So whatever, there's like the artistic,

00:32:36.220 whatever, we set that aside.

00:32:37.320 We refuse to talk about the work,

00:32:38.800 you know, our art.

00:32:39.820 Yeah.

00:32:40.240 To have it like mixed in with skincare.

00:32:42.180 But yeah, the sort of wedding of it all,

00:32:44.360 Like, when did of it all come in for me?

00:32:47.300 Hollywood?

00:32:47.900 Anyway, is it the expression?

00:32:49.040 It's not something I said before.

00:32:50.660 The form of it all.

00:32:51.300 Yeah.

00:32:53.080 Yeah.

00:32:53.500 So this is a vortex of poo.

00:32:55.100 So I'm going all the supplements.

00:32:56.660 Doing it all.

00:32:57.400 Under two months.

00:32:58.340 Every supplement, every...

00:32:59.800 I'm like...

00:33:00.200 You don't need to.

00:33:01.320 And you have to remember...

00:33:02.280 Meditation practice in place.

00:33:03.280 No, you don't need to.

00:33:04.060 You don't need to do anything.

00:33:05.100 You don't need to do anything.

00:33:06.040 Like, it's like...

00:33:07.260 You have to remember that.

00:33:07.600 So I work out every day with Tracy, basically.

00:33:09.660 Like, it's like six to seven...

00:33:10.900 Unimaginable.

00:33:11.560 Six to seven days a week plan.

00:33:13.580 And just, and for me, it's like seven really, because aside from when, you know, I truly can't

00:33:21.360 because the mental health. I mean, that's the thing. It's like, it's not discipline. It's fear.

00:33:29.360 You know what I mean? Like, it's like when the deadline finally like gets you into gear

00:33:33.480 and I just do not, whatever. So, so I'm like, I want to have the mental physical whole thing

00:33:40.560 that one has when one works out regularly.

00:33:43.700 Like, I want to be like on that day.

00:33:45.500 Like, I'm like, I will work out on that day.

00:33:48.080 Yeah.

00:33:48.580 Okay.

00:33:48.860 It's not like, there's not, it's not, it's like, 0.99

00:33:51.180 because I want that shit built in. 0.99

00:33:52.280 It's like, it's another day where I get my workout on 0.99

00:33:54.720 because I'll feel weird if I don't.

00:33:56.700 That's what I, that's who I want to be.

00:33:57.880 Well, that's, that's the promise of the routine.

00:34:00.140 The promise I've never had.

00:34:03.760 You know, you know, one of the lesser compliments,

00:34:06.180 it was great to see you do your thing out there.

00:34:08.320 Oh my God.

00:34:08.860 You know, I've gotten that.

00:34:09.580 Oh, I mean, I get it all the time.

00:34:11.200 Someone texted me that.

00:34:12.380 A refusal to acknowledge the work.

00:34:15.080 I'm sorry.

00:34:15.920 You're great to see up there doing your thing.

00:34:18.180 How about this? 1.00

00:34:19.340 Go to hell. 1.00

00:34:20.320 Yeah. 1.00

00:34:21.300 Go to hell. 1.00

00:34:24.340 People need to know this. 1.00

00:34:26.660 Anything less.

00:34:27.560 Anything less.

00:34:28.120 Anything less than being on your knees,

00:34:32.740 performing for the performer.

00:34:34.260 How do I recover from what I just saw?

00:34:35.860 I'll never be the same from what I just saw.

00:34:37.680 Yeah.

00:34:37.840 Anything less than that.

00:34:38.720 take it home

00:34:40.000 there's this thing

00:34:41.720 that I think is very real

00:34:42.600 which is that

00:34:43.220 you see someone show

00:34:44.240 and you go

00:34:44.580 oh they're on stage

00:34:45.620 right

00:34:46.100 they don't need to know

00:34:47.540 right like

00:34:48.020 oh well they've already had

00:34:48.920 no no no

00:34:49.720 I actually think it's more

00:34:50.600 the most fragile people

00:34:51.960 it is hostile

00:34:53.300 we are fragile

00:34:54.440 you know

00:34:55.140 this point is huge

00:34:56.620 this point is huge

00:34:57.600 this thought that it's like

00:34:59.120 well they're getting

00:35:00.220 they're adorned

00:35:01.080 with the rhinestones

00:35:01.740 and the adulation

00:35:02.420 they're already on the stage

00:35:03.480 they don't need more

00:35:04.140 right

00:35:04.500 the terror

00:35:05.040 didn't they hear the applause

00:35:06.040 no

00:35:06.480 I mean

00:35:07.380 no

00:35:08.480 Absolutely not. No, I mean, I mean, where was this? Oh, I, um, I sent to John early. Okay. Like whatever we're talking about. Maybe it's going to do you. I don't remember. I was sending a video or something. Okay. From the end of a performance and I wasn't sending it to point out the fact that people were standing. Okay. I mean, I wasn't even trying to do that subtly. It was literally like, look how bad my shirt looks or something. Yeah. Okay. And like, I had just said that the show was like bad. Like it was really not, not one of the good ones.

00:35:38.480 just say and then and I may with you I followed I was dead serious I go they stood out of pity

00:35:44.940 no no pity no it's just it's a it's like there you go I think yeah so you got it the other thing

00:35:54.060 this is the best I always have to get Chris to remind me I thought a comedian said it but it

00:35:57.520 was a line from Rick and Morty like your booze mean nothing I've seen what you've cheered at 0.99

00:36:03.040 oh my god that's really nice that's good isn't that good that's really good fuck 0.99

00:36:09.000 i was strolling through bloomingdeals yesterday hunting for shapewear how was it let me guess 0.95

00:36:15.240 deserted empty the ones at the mall which bloomingdeals are a little better um century

00:36:21.420 city okay there's a little bit of mall energy at these that continues but i have it's this thing

00:36:28.700 that before anything significant it's like I end up in a mall or a shoe store it's like what I do

00:36:34.980 I'm nervous and I go I need a new bra or I don't have a bra like it becomes this obsession with

00:36:41.500 preparing the body in these ways like you know a lot of times it comes down to shapewear like

00:36:46.380 literally like suiting suiting my skin up like I will be protected yeah if my clothes are ripped

00:36:52.940 from me like in the middle of something like I'll still be wearing a bathing suit underneath it's

00:36:57.400 like i don't know and um and it just it's but it's almost this idea of it becomes this like

00:37:04.040 reckoning with like the fact that i don't have one decent bra you know what i mean yeah and

00:37:10.140 i don't know it's like i'm gonna end up at this place in the upper west side

00:37:14.000 i bet like in a panic like the day before this place in new york like a pilgrimage it's called

00:37:19.400 the town shop or something it's like this like upper west side bra store you know what i mean

00:37:26.880 where they like insist on measuring you.

00:37:31.060 They like insist on putting the bra on you. 0.95

00:37:33.520 Right, right. 1.00

00:37:34.500 Loading your tits in. 1.00

00:37:35.840 Yeah. 1.00

00:37:36.200 And they put the bra on you in a way where you're just like,

00:37:38.640 oh my God, is that what we're supposed to be doing this whole time?

00:37:42.520 I once had an experience like that.

00:37:44.620 Was it good?

00:37:46.560 I got a really expensive bra.

00:37:48.100 This was many years ago.

00:37:49.020 This was, I'll tell you, this was 2019.

00:37:51.240 I was loaded in actually for a special.

00:37:54.000 Okay.

00:37:54.500 Tell me everything.

00:37:55.020 This was when I was, when I was taping my special Cinnamon in the Wind and, um, I was 0.75

00:37:59.520 like, oh, I need to get the proper bra, you know, bra of a woman. 1.00

00:38:03.720 And yeah, this Russian woman loaded my, loaded my tits in, didn't take long to load them 1.00

00:38:08.760 in as they're not as heavy as I wish. 1.00

00:38:14.020 I wish I had a rack of heavy hangers, but I just simply don't.

00:38:18.420 Um, and yeah, it was a wild experience and I got an expensive bra.

00:38:23.440 Where was it?

00:38:24.000 New York?

00:38:24.640 LA.

00:38:25.300 Studio City.

00:38:26.340 Okay.

00:38:26.680 Is it a bra shop?

00:38:27.840 Yes. 1.00

00:38:28.660 Fuck. 1.00

00:38:29.580 Considering going today. 1.00

00:38:31.380 Yeah.

00:38:32.280 I, but yeah, yeah.

00:38:34.700 There's the haunted, deserted feeling,

00:38:37.380 particularly in the hosiery section.

00:38:40.960 Now it's got a little fire in there

00:38:42.820 because they've got skims.

00:38:44.760 And so there were like,

00:38:46.040 there were literally young people like,

00:38:48.000 who felt like they'd made a pilgrimage

00:38:49.400 and couldn't believe they were getting

00:38:50.780 to look at skims in person.

00:38:52.400 Yeah.

00:38:52.940 Versus online.

00:38:54.220 Yeah.

00:38:54.360 That was the story I told myself. 1.00

00:38:56.120 They even, like, I heard these girls, they were like, 1.00

00:38:57.880 this is all skims. 0.99

00:38:59.140 And then the other one was like, no, that's like commando.

00:39:02.040 Like, that's this big commando over there.

00:39:04.440 Yeah, have some respect. 1.00

00:39:05.000 And then she's like, I think they said it's all skims.

00:39:07.020 You know, and I was like, I control myself from piping in.

00:39:09.740 Yeah, it's not.

00:39:10.280 I was like, a friend's got it.

00:39:11.620 Like, then I need to, like, support the friend and be like,

00:39:14.260 she's right.

00:39:15.620 Listen to your friend. 0.93

00:39:16.600 Those aren't skims.

00:39:17.520 Yeah.

00:39:18.520 And the skims are packaged in such a way that

00:39:22.220 it's nearly impossible to locate what you want.

00:39:26.040 I went home with the wrong thing.

00:39:28.140 Like searching through the sizes,

00:39:30.080 the colors.

00:39:30.340 From Bloomingdale's?

00:39:30.960 Yeah, of the Skims brand.

00:39:32.640 Okay.

00:39:33.240 You know what I'm talking about, right? 0.93

00:39:34.640 You're familiar with Skims?

00:39:35.820 Sweetie, yeah.

00:39:36.760 Okay, because you looked a little dull-eyed.

00:39:38.980 Okay, you looked a little confused.

00:39:39.920 Me, who was on the Skims website,

00:39:41.920 who was one of my favorite bras.

00:39:44.380 In fact, my favorite bra is Skims.

00:39:46.300 Excuse me?

00:39:47.000 And it's sold out.

00:39:47.760 Yeah, we've talked about this.

00:39:49.320 Remind me, what is it like?

00:39:50.640 It's just really simple.

00:39:51.580 It's like the Demi bra.

00:39:52.620 It just has, I like underwire in my bras.

00:39:54.600 Yeah.

00:39:54.940 Zero padding, you know?

00:39:56.520 So it's like an underwire, zero padded bra.

00:40:00.420 That's like Jersey.

00:40:01.240 And is it sheer?

00:40:02.280 No.

00:40:02.600 Oh, it's Jersey.

00:40:03.280 Really?

00:40:03.820 Yeah. 1.00

00:40:04.400 Fuck. 1.00

00:40:04.940 Back to Century City today, I guess. 1.00

00:40:06.640 God, it's good.

00:40:07.800 Just these haunted experiences where I'm there and it's this feeling like, oh, everyone else

00:40:12.400 at the mall is just living their life, you know?

00:40:14.880 Yeah.

00:40:15.160 They don't understand. 0.99

00:40:15.840 I'm here on a fucking emergency. 1.00

00:40:18.540 Right, right. 0.99

00:40:19.580 Even though you know my belief about the mall,

00:40:21.660 it's like a bunch of people walking around going,

00:40:23.560 like who've said to themselves on that day?

00:40:26.160 Like they look down at their stuff,

00:40:28.200 their clothes or whatever,

00:40:29.300 and they just go, I'm better than this.

00:40:31.080 Yeah, and get to the mall.

00:40:32.200 And they go to the mall.

00:40:33.220 Yeah.

00:40:34.100 To elevate.

00:40:35.400 I would love, I would love to have,

00:40:37.860 you and I need a Grove.

00:40:39.020 Remember when we went to the Grove and we had sushi?

00:40:42.260 Mm-hmm.

00:40:43.280 We need a urgent Grove sushi blue ribbon cocktail.

00:40:48.440 I mean, I go there a lot. 1.00

00:40:50.500 Fuck. 1.00

00:40:50.600 You know, I go there sometimes daily. 1.00

00:40:53.940 Because I can walk there and...

00:40:55.840 Really?

00:40:56.980 Oh, I just roll on. 0.99

00:40:58.200 That's where I fucking go. 0.98

00:40:59.380 Okay, I need to get there with you. 0.99

00:41:00.640 My familiarity, my Nordstrom coffee, you know the Nordstrom coffee place?

00:41:04.560 You mean the place upstairs?

00:41:05.760 Oh, I've actually never been inside that one.

00:41:07.560 Isn't it called like 27 Carrots or something?

00:41:10.260 No, that's Bloomingdale's frozen yogurt slash cafe, which is historic.

00:41:17.400 Like they had this one that, oh yeah, no, but yeah, no, they had the tart yogurt.

00:41:21.480 They originated.

00:41:23.640 They preceded Pinkberry and it's creamier, I think is how I remember.

00:41:28.200 It's very creamy.

00:41:29.060 And then they have the raspberry Kool-Aid, you know, all of that.

00:41:33.000 So it's an era.

00:41:34.960 And like I was thinking about yesterday, I was walking through Bloomingdale's, like my mom calling it Blooms.

00:41:40.420 You know what I mean?

00:41:41.320 Like stuff like that.

00:41:42.120 Like just like, we could just go to Blooms.

00:41:45.520 But yeah, the department store,

00:41:48.220 the experience of the different sections

00:41:49.940 and wandering into this section. 1.00

00:41:51.940 Oh, but the skims, so they're in these boxes

00:41:53.560 and a tiny transparent sticker says what product is inside.

00:41:59.900 A tiny transparent sticker with a tiny icon

00:42:02.840 showing like bodysuit versus whatever.

00:42:04.900 And they're in drawers and the drawers aren't labeled.

00:42:07.460 Some of them are labeled and they're labeled wrong.

00:42:08.940 It's really chaotic.

00:42:10.840 And then I go home going, I'll just do it online.

00:42:12.500 I'll do it online.

00:42:13.060 Yeah.

00:42:13.200 online you know sold out so i'm back to the store i go and you know i went home for the wrong thing

00:42:19.100 decided to keep it a lot of people are bitching i do think it's pretty interesting because i was

00:42:24.880 like i sat there i was peeing while i was thinking about this yeah okay just remember the thought

00:42:31.320 located in the room okay but it was like so people are not happy that the skims body suits

00:42:37.160 et cetera shapewear sub have no pee hole okay okay like spanks do oh okay so in order to pee

00:42:44.840 you have to literally drench your bodysuit well yeah that's one option well how do you how so 0.60

00:42:51.360 you're spreading you're gaping your skims over the toilet and praying piss doesn't get on them

00:42:58.660 exactly okay there's just a few things going on one first piece is if you're in really serious

00:43:04.740 shapewear that is hard to get on and off. Okay. Right. Which some of these are, if you're doing

00:43:10.320 it, like they have a thing where they're like size whatever for everyday wear and they're like

00:43:14.100 size down for evening wear. Yeah. Damn. And it's the whole idea of no one likes to have to get

00:43:22.740 naked in the bathroom. It's like, you know, you'd be pulling up your dress, you'd be unhooking the

00:43:27.640 whole thing, pulling it down, down over your hips, whatever. So Spanx, et cetera, has a gap.

00:43:34.740 but okay and i'm always afraid to use it for the same reason you're describing yeah it feels

00:43:43.360 insane to sort of like sit down with like full-on bike shorts essentially yeah and then sort of

00:43:50.700 pulled aside like so i tried it the other day and i was like this can't be right i was like

00:43:55.340 this feels really risky right before like going on stage and i was like you know testing out like

00:44:00.240 bodysuits under jeans and tee.

00:44:02.560 And it was like, this is a risk.

00:44:04.780 Yeah.

00:44:06.120 Piss-soaked on national television.

00:44:12.060 I love the idea of national television.

00:44:14.300 It's so wonderful because it's like,

00:44:16.300 it's those 60s.

00:44:17.120 I know, I miss it.

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00:48:02.180 In my central wedding prep,

00:48:05.060 sorry, I just panicked when I said wedding prep

00:48:07.940 that... Did I tell you this? I did an interview for promoting a show.

00:48:12.740 You should call it a wedding prep. It is.

00:48:14.620 In Boston, okay? Like a morning-ish radio show.

00:48:18.100 Oh, you're talking about this? The clip they...

00:48:20.140 Yeah. And they pulled a clip of me reading someone's letter saying I was pregnant in New

00:48:23.400 York. They go, you were pregnant. So 10 years ago, you're pregnant. You're super pregnant

00:48:26.780 in New York. And here's a clip. And then it cuts to me like, so I'm super pregnant in

00:48:32.480 New York and I'm reading the email someone sent. And they play the clip and I just go,

00:48:36.180 Guys, I'm sorry.

00:48:37.160 Something terrible has happened.

00:48:38.620 No, you told this story on Pooh.

00:48:39.840 One of your...

00:48:40.600 That's why I'm...

00:48:41.360 So I'm just going right now, wedding prep,

00:48:43.180 and it's going to be like another mistaken thing.

00:48:46.260 But here's where I'm at.

00:48:47.940 Because I'm in this under two months,

00:48:49.860 like we're two months out.

00:48:51.040 Anytime there's the whatever out, you know that?

00:48:53.560 We're six weeks out.

00:48:55.100 Like the energy of that,

00:48:57.040 you could see on my wall,

00:48:58.020 see those big pieces of tape.

00:49:00.120 Yesterday morning, I decided huge.

00:49:02.580 I need like, I need a massive two month calendar that I'm going to divide. I was like, it has to

00:49:09.240 be the size of the wall so that I can make use of every 15 minute unit of time. And then the other

00:49:16.840 problem is, the other problem is, you ready for this? So now every product that I'm interested

00:49:21.680 in using in my so-called wedding prep, I'm going on and I'm like, like the Lima laser or something,

00:49:26.440 right? You know, 90% of people saw results after three months. And I'm going,

00:49:32.500 again, going, how can I speed it up? How can I speed it up? You're going to get the results.

00:49:43.620 Okay. People see results in 10 days. I saw. Do they? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I believe they must. I

00:49:48.760 mean, and also who like, also, I mean, this is the other thing. This is the, the obsessive.

00:49:54.560 I don't I'm not even concerned about my skin what are you talking about I'm not even trying

00:49:59.160 to fix anything oh yeah you know the skin's great so I'm I'm in this like hoarder um yeah you need

00:50:05.360 to release it fearful protective thing of everything needs to be optimized like as if

00:50:11.680 I'm bringing myself from negative whatever like I don't know I think it's I think it's related to

00:50:17.020 ADD which is if there's a focusing event I'm so excited to have a thing that's focusing the

00:50:24.160 attention yeah hyper focus and then you yeah everything else fades away yeah yeah and so

00:50:30.260 here comes the turmeric you know what I mean

00:50:33.720 I want to talk about sleep deprivation because it's real oh god I said that just now because

00:50:42.420 what did I just say oh complicated instead of complimented and the ultimate what's that what's

00:50:48.960 wrong nothing oh i thought you were like something like oh god no keep going sleep

00:50:56.320 okay but it's real and and yesterday whatever this week four cities whatever right yeah okay

00:51:04.960 i can't let myself believe that i'm tired or depleted because then like going off to the show

00:51:11.180 like believing i'm impaired mentally is terrifying so this is i'm glad you're bringing this up i'd

00:51:15.980 be like no yeah you're not tired like oh god i'm gonna stumble my words it's gonna whatever

00:51:21.000 there was one moment where i realized like oh no after the show like the final night i was starting

00:51:26.320 to write a little thing about hanging my flag and i sat there and i was going like and so i hung my

00:51:31.700 flag and then i was like oh hey no one's gonna get me on the grammar i was like it's hanged

00:51:36.940 right right okay i was like a lot of people don't know this it's actually hanged and i started to

00:51:40.880 type on an instagram story yeah i even though it sounds wrong yeah dived right yeah it's right

00:51:45.800 I hanged my flag and I said to my tour manager or something and she was like, I think it's

00:51:50.920 hung.

00:51:51.300 And I was like, well, actually, I thought hung, like hanged was for when someone hangs

00:51:56.020 themselves.

00:51:56.800 And then I was like, I've never felt greater humiliation.

00:52:00.680 And I was like, oh my God, this is how I go.

00:52:05.440 See, this is the ugliness of the way that my brain shall go.

00:52:10.020 It will be that it is caked in ego.

00:52:11.880 yeah it'll be me specifying like the clarification actually it's dived when like what i'm trying to

00:52:18.140 say is get me my walker okay you know what i mean god yeah it'll be ego it'll be misapplications of

00:52:25.340 like little actuallys i already feel like you know lost and so i just think it well let's let's push 0.88

00:52:31.580 it 130 that's that's what i'm gonna say at 130 i'm gonna be fucked but wait i have a question 0.93

00:52:39.540 about the sleep deprivation because i similarly oh yeah before a show not to be too inside baseball 0.97

00:52:44.420 here on the pod but um i felt really tired and like oh fuck and do you find that sometimes when 0.99

00:52:51.020 you're a little impaired in that way tired oh i can't wait defenses are down you fly free you're 0.97

00:52:56.560 finally free you you lose the edge a little bit and it actually really helps it helps you be an

00:53:03.160 animal yes okay i've had this with and this is what i'm telling myself because i have a show

00:53:09.580 tonight i've had this with also being a little sick okay now you need to believe that when you 0.94

00:53:17.560 have a fucking cold okay terrifying again i've done these things where i'm you know i have my 0.95

00:53:22.760 tea on stage next to my water it's so like precious but also literally necessary and then 0.99

00:53:28.400 the question of cold medicine or not cold medicine or whatever all those things but even if it's just

00:53:33.320 pure cold you have no medication it does something yeah it impairs you just enough where there is

00:53:38.740 kind of like a freedom it's almost like the tiredness right now there's kind of a freedom

00:53:43.180 right there is do i tint my eyebrows get them darker again you don't need that for the special

00:53:52.920 though because makeup I don't have a makeup artist what the hell are you talking about yeah I've never

00:54:00.740 yeah I've never um had one like I've never I don't have I don't have my person and as a result

00:54:08.960 I've had some bad makeup yeah on television it's tough some was good you know it varies

00:54:16.400 I just don't have a person I don't have well of course I'm calling so-and-so because

00:54:21.600 you know i've worked with them for years so it just feels a little we're gonna get you done

00:54:25.200 up right yeah for the wedding it's gonna get bridal makeup be clear once again not married

00:54:30.460 not getting married um it's an accomplishment far greater than marriage well exactly marriage's

00:54:38.940 accomplishment continues to haunt at every corner it's laughable i mean it's just it really does

00:54:44.960 persist in the culture and in conversation no it's i'm not i'm not i'm not a wretched i'm i love

00:54:51.800 love i'm happy for people of course of course i think that you know well what i really think

00:54:57.000 is that undertaking a relationship falling in love it's a solemn acceptance it is it should be seen 0.93

00:55:02.600 as a fucking solemn right affair you're like party are you kidding are we what a party a reception 0.93

00:55:09.060 no no no i'm talking about a marriage i'm talking about committing to a relationship 0.97

00:55:13.980 And therefore, the wedding should be solemn.

00:55:16.840 Oh, I love this.

00:55:17.820 Okay.

00:55:19.100 Yeah.

00:55:19.580 The wedding should be a solemn affair in which like, oh my God.

00:55:24.800 You know what happens to me?

00:55:26.440 When I get to a wedding, because you're not supposed to laugh or smile,

00:55:30.980 I just break into giggles every time.

00:55:33.380 That should be the thing about the wedding.

00:55:34.840 Right, right, right, right.

00:55:35.800 It's the funeral.

00:55:36.620 You know what I mean?

00:55:37.620 It should be a mirror.

00:55:39.880 It really is.

00:55:40.980 It should be backwards.

00:55:41.540 It should be a mirror to the funeral.

00:55:42.540 We have it backwards. 1.00

00:55:43.920 Oh, damn. 1.00

00:55:44.920 Yeah. 1.00

00:55:45.420 Everyone should be in solemn...

00:55:46.820 The heaviness of a wedding, the heaviness of a marriage.

00:55:50.320 Yeah.

00:55:50.860 Why can't we acknowledge that in the ceremony?

00:55:54.320 It's only...

00:55:55.260 I love the...

00:55:56.780 You know, it's only...

00:55:59.260 No, it's a massive undertaking and it should be...

00:56:01.860 And it should be treated as such.

00:56:04.080 I once heard, I think it was on Dateline, okay?

00:56:06.300 But it was just someone talking about their life.

00:56:07.920 And they were kind of doing the like...

00:56:09.260 Maybe this was like before murder entered their life in some way, okay?

00:56:12.360 But it was like, or it was this kind of self-narrative about, you know, having it all.

00:56:19.640 Okay. 0.99

00:56:20.020 Like before, you know, shit went south kind of. 0.99

00:56:22.760 And they go, they go, and I've heard this like a couple of times. 1.00

00:56:25.280 They go, you know, I had the husband, I had the kid, I had the dog.

00:56:28.200 Okay.

00:56:29.860 And it was like, um, what?

00:56:32.420 It was like, you know, it was bizarre to me and extremely telling as like,

00:56:42.360 being suited up with objects that are not objects yeah they're people yeah presented as

00:56:50.200 you know three awards or whatever but like the dog as though like i mean i almost feel like the

00:56:56.580 implication was that it must have been like an expensive expensive dog or something but i don't

00:57:00.360 know it was kind of like i had the truck i had the house and the thing i had that and then they name

00:57:04.700 like hideous things like i don't know isn't that funny yeah totally it's pointing to the fact that

00:57:10.500 It's, you can have those things, but do you have your soul?

00:57:13.140 Do you have your soul? 0.66

00:57:13.860 Yeah, where the hell? 0.99

00:57:14.520 Are you living a symbolic life? 1.00

00:57:15.800 Where was your fucking soul in it? 1.00

00:57:18.220 Where the hell? 1.00

00:57:19.180 Because guess what? 0.89

00:57:20.600 You only get that alone.

00:57:21.980 Right.

00:57:22.520 And again, relationships, beautiful, pro, pro love.

00:57:25.060 I'm saying right.

00:57:25.500 Love, love.

00:57:26.300 Insisting.

00:57:26.780 Oh, no, but you only get it alone.

00:57:28.200 Right, right, right, right, right.

00:57:29.040 But I just mean that it is, it is.

00:57:32.660 Well, there's a reason they say twin flame, not one flame made of two.

00:57:38.920 Wait, wait, wait.

00:57:40.280 In terms of soulmates.

00:57:41.820 Yeah.

00:57:42.860 Okay.

00:57:43.600 It's like twin lane.

00:57:44.880 Like the two shall not become one.

00:57:48.060 Right.

00:57:48.380 Twin.

00:57:49.960 Secondary one.

00:57:51.080 Yeah.

00:57:53.020 Here's the real question.

00:57:54.240 It's countdown time.

00:57:55.680 Which skincare do I go with?

00:57:58.660 I think you're fine. 1.00

00:58:00.140 The fuck? 1.00

00:58:00.460 I think... 1.00

00:58:01.080 Nothing?

00:58:02.380 Just if powder gets...

00:58:03.900 I'm afraid.

00:58:04.620 What if the makeup artist...

00:58:05.760 Like what if it's not a match?

00:58:07.480 You know what I'm really...

00:58:08.640 I have to say.

00:58:09.300 if a line that I just, it's just, is do skin, do skin.

00:58:14.820 Oh, what is that? 1.00

00:58:16.040 D-I-E-X. 0.94

00:58:17.640 Oh, they've sent us something. 0.53

00:58:19.580 They have a really nice, the serum and-

00:58:21.820 Emollient.

00:58:22.540 And the moisturizer is really good.

00:58:25.920 The moisturizer in the like Marvis tube.

00:58:28.520 Yeah, it's the Marvis tube, which I enjoy.

00:58:31.440 The metal.

00:58:32.620 Yeah, that's satisfying.

00:58:33.620 I have, because we all know when Sturm caved in the 80s,

00:58:36.380 I had saved this like anti-aging pot of facial moisturizer,

00:58:41.560 but I'm using it at home.

00:58:42.540 But again, it isn't a pot.

00:58:43.920 Well, you know what?

00:58:44.340 My new version with the pot is you just, 0.99

00:58:47.500 you fucking commit and you use it by the handful. 0.99

00:58:51.720 By the handful? 1.00

00:58:54.480 Well, relatively, if it's an eye cream,

00:58:56.800 like you do not like-

00:58:58.320 Skimp. 0.99

00:58:58.980 Because it's aerating.

00:58:59.960 You do not skimp because you want it to be,

00:59:01.660 that's what I'm saying.

00:59:02.240 You want to use it up.

00:59:03.160 You got to use it up. 0.97

00:59:03.620 And the tiny spoons, the whole thing with the tiny spoons are not fucking working. 0.92

00:59:07.900 When they give you a little spoon, it's, what are you talking about? 0.94

00:59:11.420 For once.

00:59:11.800 And by the way, what are you talking about?

00:59:14.240 So this is a spoon that I have just jangling around

00:59:18.820 that I'm going to scoop out this product with for the rest of my life.

00:59:22.140 And then I bought a little container of mini spoons.

00:59:25.060 I was like, okay, there's going to be a basket of mini spoons

00:59:27.520 and I just grabbed for them.

00:59:29.040 Okay.

00:59:29.320 No way.

00:59:30.020 And those have become just, it just doesn't. 0.98

00:59:33.140 So the new thing is dive in, you know, with your dirty fingers. 0.96

00:59:38.060 Neck and chest. 0.92

00:59:39.100 Because usually a stern like that, I'd be like,

00:59:41.160 I'm not going to put that on my neck and my chest.

00:59:42.720 I want it just on the face, but I'm doing it all.

00:59:44.920 Oh, yeah.

00:59:45.700 Last night, I threw on some face gym.

00:59:47.860 Oh, I'm thinking about doing like face gym like intensely.

00:59:51.640 I want to go to kosher spa so bad.

00:59:53.660 I want to kosher buckle massage.

00:59:56.160 If face gym doesn't add buckle massage, 1.00

00:59:58.140 where they go in your mouth and work the jaw and the buckle.

01:00:01.980 Someone was just telling you about this.

01:00:03.140 who if they don't get that in their regimen i think it's an error because it's the trend it's 0.99

01:00:09.700 the future and they need to have it on the fucking menu i mean you're you're a face massage place 0.86

01:00:15.320 so that's my yeah going in i also want to try their micro stamping stamping vitamin shot tool 0.98

01:00:21.960 whoa it's like instead of rolling the needles across you it's just one stamp which makes sense

01:00:27.040 to me and in goes the serum i've been always scared to to roll the needles across i know you

01:00:32.340 I have.

01:00:33.020 I know.

01:00:34.960 Are you open to going to the Korean spa with me this week?

01:00:39.460 You forget once again for the last 10 days.

01:00:42.580 Like you forget every day.

01:00:43.140 You're scared of COVID?

01:00:44.120 No.

01:00:45.360 I'm leaving tomorrow. 1.00

01:00:47.620 Oh, shit. 0.99

01:00:48.380 Okay. 1.00

01:00:49.940 Okay.

01:00:50.640 Okay. 1.00

01:00:51.320 God damn it. 0.99

01:00:52.820 So. 0.99

01:00:53.620 Oh, so it looks like ding dong.

01:00:56.100 See you in a couple hours.

01:00:57.760 Oh my God. 0.99

01:00:58.540 Ding dong.

01:00:59.140 A little sail away.

01:01:00.240 I mean, it's an interesting concept.

01:01:03.640 Scale of one to 10.

01:01:04.780 Technically, you're all in.

01:01:06.240 Technically, worst day because I'm leaving for like a month,

01:01:10.640 possibly with no return, all leading up to the special.

01:01:14.040 And sorry, folks, you listening to this, you're probably...

01:01:16.560 You're gone for a month?

01:01:17.920 I've told you this.

01:01:18.860 I knew this. Sorry, I knew this.

01:01:20.200 You just couldn't accept it.

01:01:21.720 So you...

01:01:22.280 I rarely can accept.

01:01:23.040 Went into a dissociative fugue.

01:01:25.040 Yeah.

01:01:27.400 Okay, if I want to get my face waxed off,

01:01:30.240 pretty special. You don't need to do anything.

01:01:32.660 They're just going to, you're done.

01:01:35.000 You look great. You're cooked. They're going to put

01:01:36.540 makeup on you. No, but my chin 0.83

01:01:38.660 like in an effort to

01:01:40.200 be like caring for my skin,

01:01:42.580 I've been very like, like I just feel

01:01:44.520 like in those harsh stage

01:01:46.680 lights, do I really want the

01:01:48.600 slight like mustache on the

01:01:50.660 corner of the lid? You know what I mean? Like, do I

01:01:52.560 want to make my skin into water skin?

01:01:55.080 Oh, you're talking about

01:01:56.220 true hair? What the hell else

01:01:58.600 would I mean? It's a siren. Sorry.

01:02:00.240 I mean like, you know, whatever, browse, whatever, just whatever needs to be done.

01:02:04.160 I have no, my point, all I was going to say, okay, because I was thinking in these different

01:02:11.500 cities, okay, I'm passing truth and what if they have the greatest browse specialist?

01:02:15.780 I'm just, it just opens up the options.

01:02:17.380 Anyway, okay.

01:02:19.080 A question of how, if we're getting to Olympic, it's technically like one of the more, it

01:02:24.860 would be in the spirit of

01:02:26.220 go to a movie the night before the

01:02:28.740 SATs. You know this?

01:02:31.340 I'm sure you didn't. You probably went

01:02:32.700 grew up in elementary school in which

01:02:34.500 math was taught explicitly through pottery.

01:02:37.480 Oh yeah, my elementary school

01:02:38.820 they... You know what I'm saying?

01:02:40.920 Wait. Sorry. There's a concept

01:02:43.060 in the world

01:02:44.580 I come from, okay? Which is like

01:02:46.900 cramming for the SATs and

01:02:48.840 we've been working for months.

01:02:51.000 So they go like, go to a movie

01:02:52.800 the night before. No, it's good advice. Take your

01:02:54.800 mind off of it. Those who know, know I had an explosive week at the Ludlow. A couple of things

01:03:01.820 I want to say about the Ludlow. Okay. Did you get the burger? Like four times. I had the burger in

01:03:05.360 the lobby. Medium rare. It was great. It was perfection. Yeah. So I put my parents up there

01:03:11.520 for two nights. Ooh. Okay. God, you're a sweet daughter. That's unbelievable. Well, it was for

01:03:16.820 my recording. I'm through. The wedding has occurred. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. By the way,

01:03:23.420 I felt like a hero for essentially working out after the wedding.

01:03:27.680 Like I was like, oh, so it's crazy lifestyle.

01:03:30.620 Like it's like, that wasn't just some, some pre wedding blitz.

01:03:34.780 Yeah. Congratulations.

01:03:36.380 Yeah. It's like, okay, it's here to stay.

01:03:38.280 And now it's untainted by sort of preparatory energy.

01:03:43.540 Now it's just, this is who I am. I move because I move.

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