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00:02:39.380 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:40.880 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

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00:02:55.360 tiny dose tiny hands tiny medallion

00:02:59.580 hello ding dong it's me from last year i know this is absolute by the way

00:03:10.320 i mean i don't even know how to begin heaven is living here with you i don't know what that is

00:03:17.260 heaven knows your life can be brand new sorry i don't know that i did well anyway hi hi we're

00:03:24.960 back i can't i can't believe because to be clear and maybe this is already abundantly clear to the

00:03:32.220 to the hags but we have not done a recording since the tour yeah and there have been so many days

00:03:38.520 where i've of course missed you been toiling missing you um days of inspiration where i go

00:03:43.980 this should we should be recording you know conversations we've had i know um but it's okay

00:03:48.940 the point is that we're back it's okay isn't it surreal because we were going to i think what we

00:03:54.220 should do is or you know i'm thinking oh a tour recap don't move on yeah yeah yeah let it well i

00:04:01.740 will say one thing the main thing i mean there will be some natural moments well of course we

00:04:05.360 will we will dip back into it obviously tour was explosive to see and thank you everyone who came

00:04:11.100 just to hate to oh wow yeah hey thanks for coming but truly thank you it was unbelievable um doesn't

00:04:18.240 it feel like so long ago that we were on tour jacqueline i mean being with you us two another

00:04:23.380 day another city christmas cackling i was just thinking about us trying to get meals late at

00:04:28.580 night places being closed we went we're in what city was that see this is like the cliche the

00:04:32.800 person on tour what city was that it's all blur but where was it where we the beautiful french

00:04:37.020 restaurant and again i typically don't reach for french cuisine but what was the place where we

00:04:41.300 got there a minute after they closed and it was bustling and the rude maitre d and i i could not

00:04:48.180 believe it oh yeah did he said something like he said something related to the theater well because

00:04:54.120 i was being i was being pulling here i go we just got off stage looking in his eyes a couple

00:04:59.440 performers come on sir he didn't couldn't have cared less good for him me though security concerns

00:05:04.980 thank you to the san francisco proper hotel for um helping us out beautiful room given um yeah

00:05:12.300 they did help us out champagne toast um no it was just funny because for a second there it almost

00:05:17.660 sounded sarcastic but i know you're going for the exact opposite i know this happens to be a lot

00:05:22.200 where real enthusiasm is um is mistaken for disingenuous uh whatever where i'm like no

00:05:30.180 you're actually your heart's in it and it's like actually yeah that was authentic um sorry i'm

00:05:37.100 just um no where are you celsius addiction's worse than it's ever been are you serious how many a day

00:05:42.520 jacqueline two oh my god and actually the other day i think i did three wow but still falling

00:05:49.920 asleep yeah you know like i'm i don't mean at night i mean during the day i mean the receptors

00:05:55.640 are gone the receptors are like they're like my uh incisors brain receptors yeah yeah my teeth

00:06:02.920 now i'm just no you know like i've ground them down okay so they're no longer like a dog's tooth

00:06:08.120 they're flat right i feel like my caffeine receptors whatever they've been obliterated

00:06:14.060 you know like they've been bathed i mean like this is this is um sorry i'm sorry a little bit

00:06:21.080 but i was in meditation this morning whoa burying the lead you heard me haven't meditated in seven 0.67

00:06:27.900 months and i was on such a fucking tear i pulled out the old mantra and i am resisting the body 0.83

00:06:34.340 is resisting because according to joe dispenza whose work i've been doing a deep dive back into 0.84

00:06:41.360 you even suggested i could use your login that'd be huge yeah so what does he say the body when

00:06:47.700 the body becomes the mind okay the body's a record of the past okay okay the body's a record of the

00:06:52.440 past okay cellularly we bathe ourselves in these emotions and then our cells are literally addicted

00:06:59.140 to them because anything you place in the environment it wants more of so then you're

00:07:03.100 addicted to certain emotions and then those emotions come obviously with certain thoughts

00:07:07.480 and then that becomes a mood, becomes a personality, becomes a destiny, whatever.

00:07:13.400 So to get into the generous present moment, you have to, the body will resist.

00:07:22.260 The body just wants yesterday again, okay?

00:07:25.240 Right.

00:07:26.000 And you have to say no, okay?

00:07:28.900 You have to use the crowning achievement of the human form,

00:07:32.400 the frontal lobe, okay, and go and treat it like a stallion.

00:07:36.340 Neuroplasticity.

00:07:36.940 And go, no.

00:07:37.780 Yeah.

00:07:38.180 And go, no.

00:07:38.800 Okay.

00:07:39.940 So the body will resist.

00:07:42.960 It's amazing.

00:07:43.920 It's like, isn't it wild?

00:07:47.040 Just like, you know, spend all night reading about the benefits of meditation,

00:07:52.060 completely excited, and then the next morning literally kind of like.

00:07:56.240 No, it's impossible.

00:07:57.300 Well, I mean, again, thinking about myself and maybe the summer I was on Pooh granting

00:08:01.280 about I'm meditating every day.

00:08:02.800 I was.

00:08:03.420 Yeah.

00:08:03.620 I was doing 20 minutes twice a day.

00:08:05.320 I was at a work function.

00:08:07.840 Asked to be excused.

00:08:09.500 Yes.

00:08:09.840 Went and found an office.

00:08:11.120 Yes.

00:08:11.360 Yes.

00:08:11.900 Yes.

00:08:11.960 Went and found an office.

00:08:12.800 Hi, do you mind?

00:08:13.860 And I got to kind of be the, whoa, she's really.

00:08:16.540 Went into an office, a stranger's office, dim the lights, meditating.

00:08:23.920 And yeah, my greatest fear happened around minute 17.

00:08:26.160 the door handle jiggled brought me out yeah i radically into the present and i thought

00:08:29.800 that's okay i was so calm i got to the point where i started to feel it happening noticing thoughts

00:08:34.820 and said i know i couldn't tell you i started having that happen in my life i started going

00:08:38.260 oh thoughts are coming up interesting interesting i started to be the observer you became

00:08:41.760 the awareness i'm back relapsed hard scrolling scrolling scrolling searching ah yeah uh getting

00:08:49.340 it directly by the way this is not a joke i'm going back i'm going back i'm doing five days

00:08:54.280 nothing starting wednesday see i just think that with you these these these extremes these harsh

00:09:00.240 extremes they you're comfortable with a routine of bender and then not i know that's become a no

00:09:08.620 but i was doing the 10 minute integration as i call it yes you were finding balance and i'm doing

00:09:13.780 that again i'm going to go back 10 minutes a day that's all you get it's all your bad phone still

00:09:17.940 right yeah i still have two phones so that has actually okay it's actually been a long and by

00:09:22.180 the way thank you you're right it's a huge difference not having instagram when i'm out

00:09:26.160 in the world huge still having two phones ah only in your home only in your sacred space

00:09:32.380 i know exactly no no i'm joking but yes okay so so huge thing that must we must

00:09:39.420 acknowledge thank you in the morning okay no no i was i mean yes but i was moving by the way

00:09:45.640 this thing that guess what happened to me today hyper spiritual experience don't forget the

00:09:50.420 okay hold on to the window okay you ready okay and yes this was fed to me by instagram okay

00:09:57.440 do i recognize the irony of course but who cares okay yeah you ready

00:10:01.280 don't you dare scroll first thing in the morning because you are still in theta okay you are coming

00:10:12.780 from delta to theta to um beta i think and then there's ranges of beta but the point is

00:10:21.000 to go from sort of delta to you know deep low theta whatever theta and then you open up your

00:10:28.460 phone i know you are thrust violently into high beta okay oh no and it's not good and i forgot

00:10:35.960 why it's not good but i know it's not good oh and then the dopamine this is the other thing

00:10:39.920 first thing in the morning okay this high dopamine yeah action of the scrolling when

00:10:44.440 you're in that state sets off a addictive thing where you need it all day oh okay somebody with

00:10:50.020 a hulu show liked my picture oh oh my god what could this mean for me absolutely nothing i mean

00:10:57.040 it is fucking crazy no no it's completely true someone with a hulu show thinks i slayed in this

00:11:03.540 photo yeah yeah no it's completely it's i was having an incredible conversation last night 0.98

00:11:09.240 and I realized oh wait your spiritual experience looking out the window okay okay I'll say this

00:11:12.580 morning so but wait and last night I'm curious okay I'll just say this guess guess what guess 0.99

00:11:17.700 what I'm going to a psychiatrist motherfucker I'm getting medicated I can't live like this anymore 0.99

00:11:22.900 oh I'm getting I want to I want to experiment with the modern 80 medication I'm going on a 0.99

00:11:28.880 long road trip 80 2.0 the book which I bought and of course have been unable to read past page two 0.97

00:11:34.640 i'm we're gonna do the audiobook i'm going to see a cock sucking psychotherapist yeah i'm 0.86

00:11:41.320 gonna experiment because what because here's my fears right because adderall of course more 0.98

00:11:45.100 powerful than cocaine yeah i'm terrified of that i'm terrified who knows what drugs are

00:11:49.420 self-stimulating look at me afraid wait look at me self-stimulating what are you doing

00:11:53.400 see what i'm doing no i can't tell i'm i'm using the mic i'm using the microphones um

00:11:58.200 web rubbing on your forehead to lift my eyebrow up and down yeah okay okay hold on i have a lot

00:12:07.600 to say i have a lot to say i want to i want a micro dose by the way it's like oh well careful

00:12:11.780 yeah i just no no no no i was gonna say it's micro dose pills oh i don't know let me guess

00:12:17.640 let me guess i don't know what the contemporary science is on the tiniest dose there's ever been 0.99

00:12:22.800 the flex approach i'm mocking this because i feel like there's a thing that like women in my family 1.00

00:12:28.140 it's like a half a half a symbol yeah yeah my doctor and it's like a sumo wrestler half

00:12:33.420 okay and yes now you've you've you've swallowed whole the sumo wrestler idea and forgotten that

00:12:38.340 it came from me and my dog was you i knew it was you oh but thank god but here's the thing don't

00:12:43.060 erase me wait so okay so psychotherapy so so so the add so here's a here's the thing i downloaded

00:12:49.540 in an app okay that got served to me it said i was scrolling okay yes i recognize the irony and

00:12:54.960 it said you know hey imagine if you weren't scrolling okay or if instead of scrolling you

00:12:59.300 were taking in useful information whatever i run to the app okay i get in there what books are you

00:13:04.740 interested in adhd 2.0 yep and it starts serving me the book in kind of a form that is sort of

00:13:11.560 you're swiping across and there's sort of visuals and i'm not i'm not even like i don't even think

00:13:17.100 I'm like a visual learner or whatever I like can read easily but I was doing the app version of

00:13:23.520 ADD she went to my own it was coming and I was going yes and I was learning things and I learned

00:13:27.540 something within like five minutes that I did not know about ADD like what now and I remember

00:13:33.140 telling Chris Chris I learned something about ADD that I did not know and I thought oh my god I'm

00:13:36.980 so excited to show Kate forgot can't remember oh no but wait let me see if I could find it I mean

00:13:41.980 mentally search of the brain the point is the guy's got new things to say i'm curious by the

00:13:47.340 way there's some pills i haven't even heard of out there i know i know well you know about what

00:13:52.320 happened to me when i tried one of the modern pills what i mean at this point it was eight

00:13:56.140 years ago but um weren't you vivenson with our friend darone or i met up with our friend darone

00:14:02.500 and i was on the pill it was uh i forget what it's called if you said it i'd remember and what

00:14:08.640 happened it was another add pill it was like um newer add pill i was on a weird one they were

00:14:13.240 shaped like little tubes that was when i was like 17 i remember they were like long tubes well i

00:14:18.740 guess all pills are tubes no this was different no they're um it was a what's a rhombus no no no

00:14:23.860 um it was like a cylinder rhombus it was not a rhombus it was a crazy two-dimensional it started

00:14:30.700 with a c anyway um wait so what happened when you met up with him were you tweaking so i was

00:14:36.200 already on the thing and i'm sitting there in central park chatting and i go wait something

00:14:38.940 is amiss okay and i go it's silent in my head no stop okay go silence in there okay and it was like

00:14:48.200 jesus it was exactly like if on the interior if all of a sudden all the birds stopped chirping

00:14:53.340 all the you know you know what if like the equivalent of the exterior just everything

00:14:59.140 kind of goes silent but it was the interior and i didn't realize you know until i was having that

00:15:04.600 experience that that is not what i'm normally experiencing right right you know those like

00:15:10.180 in movies when you like it i mean not really i mean i mean i i was i immediately dollar signs

00:15:18.000 in the eyes going is this everything is this what others have i mean it would make it made me go if

00:15:25.020 this is how others are living okay even any of the population i was like then we have nothing in

00:15:32.680 common okay and and me relating to you know however much of the population is like this we

00:15:39.420 are living in a completely different realities yeah different world like yeah because i i don't

00:15:44.900 even think like i'm not even like internal monologue person like no no just i'm not like

00:15:51.000 full sentences no no no no of course not fragments images yeah it's more like james joyce in there

00:15:56.220 Yeah.

00:16:26.220 and back then i lied to my parents i lied to police i lied to everybody there were years

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00:16:42.820 out what actually happened isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods

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00:19:40.980 yeah so wait spiritual looking at the spiritual looking at the window last night i was on a tear

00:19:46.500 talking about ad you know all of this and i was talking about the relapsing on the phone

00:19:53.320 and this morning woke up and i thought what if i looked out the window what if i just

00:20:00.880 turned and looked at the window i felt the presence of god okay so i mean truly i was like

00:20:09.400 i reach for my phone i see texts right i don't go further i don't click them to open them up

00:20:16.680 i turn away and i look into the yeah and i just it was the thing where i'm like i was like i'm

00:20:23.500 captivated to be clear yeah and if i was like if i just did this like it's like whatever who 0.53

00:20:29.960 fucking care i just got depressed thinking about my life wait what just now yeah yeah i just got 0.71

00:20:35.560 so depressed you mean like this the phone spiritual just yeah apart on you just then 0.99

00:20:39.860 something happened were you selling a lie were you like no no i wasn't i was thinking about

00:20:44.980 again this is and this is poo you know it's like i was thinking about oh i thought yeah i know this

00:20:48.800 is all i have to do i just have to look at the window every morning and and and just notice

00:20:51.940 nature and just take in even just for even spiritual dollar signs you know people go

00:20:55.820 even just for five minutes five minutes to six hours yeah oh even just five minutes what

00:21:01.260 five minutes try 10 seconds yeah i mean start with 10 seconds start with 10 seconds and this

00:21:07.080 is the other thing i get so hard it's hard do 10 seconds it's all hard like even earlier you went

00:21:13.020 like this and i thought even not just take one breath oh my god but i was like and this is the

00:21:20.720 thing like page a day like like reading now my reading is so off i haven't read a book in months

00:21:26.940 i was thinking about a lot i think about i think i hear in our head i mean our head by which i

00:21:31.240 i meant you and me talking i sometimes hear in our head i mean my head again yeah it's happening

00:21:35.880 but i'm like lying down i got non-negotiable okay non-negotiable and you know it's been saving me

00:21:42.560 not dragging myself on television yeah where i like to will tell you i can't wait to tell you

00:21:48.120 about my current hobonichi situation but you know my new year getting the special journal that i have

00:21:55.040 remember the special daily journal and getting it and then you know weeks go by i mean like i was

00:22:00.980 you know jan one through six and you know i'm not one of these people that gets on board for things

00:22:05.360 jan one but the calendar starts then so i found myself among them yeah the first like eight days

00:22:10.940 i had a chart where i would fill in a little box like yes like i meditated yes i did tracy

00:22:16.860 anderson workout yes i did this as in tract you know like yes i did sat with journal whatever

00:22:23.180 and it was like going and filling in the blocks and whatever and then you know things got a little

00:22:27.660 crazy and I decide it's like if the practice is not I don't know two years embedded in your body 0.96

00:22:37.200 again when shit's going down like oh like there's a bunch of stuff to do it all fucking goes and 0.99

00:22:43.840 that's like like when you like excused yourself you know to go do your meditation it must have 0.99

00:22:51.800 been in your body enough that your body pushed through on the habit to wanted to make you go do

00:22:57.200 it yeah and like the 20 minutes twice a day god that was good but i'm like i just don't know if

00:23:01.580 that will ever be me again for more than a month i know devastating well i've wondered kate yeah

00:23:08.900 i've wondered if you know

00:23:14.480 these fantasies of like i was reading this one book and and and oh i'm reading and i was listening

00:23:22.020 david lynch's like book catching the big fish or whatever from whenever and it's like he's talking

00:23:27.540 about when he like found tm you know and and like the first time he tries it and i i'm pretty sure

00:23:33.280 he said like basically he tried it one day at the tm center you know and hasn't missed a day since

00:23:39.120 okay now that how right now i mean how i get it if you pull it off for six years you struggle for

00:23:48.420 six years and then you get it there are also just freaks guess who doesn't have ADD yeah David Lynch

00:23:53.060 guess who does not have ADD yeah well what I was going to pose was and for those who don't know

00:24:00.620 TM is transcendental meditation but keep going yeah I couldn't bring my I couldn't decide which

00:24:05.060 way to say it which I am formally trained in yeah so so I was thinking do I need my teacher to 0.98

00:24:12.880 reseed my mantra okay in my in my flesh you know I was like doesn't need to get re uh so fuck oh 0.78

00:24:19.360 here was my thought so you and me going will it ever be me for more than a month right yeah are 0.98

00:24:24.240 we destined to experience our on and off again life okay we can either suffer it we can rail

00:24:32.860 against it we can constantly be suffering why aren't I lynch right or can we somehow make peace

00:24:40.500 with on again off again right yeah oh now i like this i like this now here's where i get a little

00:24:46.760 bit and you're saying where you start to think this is it this is the answer yeah the whole thing

00:24:50.300 and that's my spiritual dollar signs where you start to go no pain no pain i figured it out if

00:24:53.560 i just do five minutes a day staring out the window you know yeah but it's like i want to

00:24:57.580 force something onto this and so i go is the whole problem that all of these practices we've been

00:25:03.440 doing our sort of um masculine psyche ideal okay in the yin and yang sense to be clear

00:25:11.620 you know continuous linear never-ending internal okay okay nuclear unending energy power continuous

00:25:21.600 straight line are we fighting wildly violently and against our own best interest against the

00:25:27.340 cyclical kate is the problem we're not on and off again we're not receiving the cyclical god this 0.93

00:25:34.640 is good bitch and if we could align with the cyclical there would be room and it would know 0.68

00:25:40.760 it's not we're not so i love this this is it that so this is i find myself three years back 0.97

00:25:48.480 where i learned this once okay when i was reading all those cyclical things and then i've also

00:25:53.860 wondered at times are some of these meditation practices you know designed by men for men okay

00:26:00.380 yeah in the year whatever and i've even gone do i have a feminine psyche that is sitting on the rock

00:26:09.460 like what if that really okay i've been doing this moving meditation heartstone by tracy

00:26:16.140 anderson okay it's recently dropped there are these stunning things you hold with rose quartz

00:26:22.520 okay and you do this work whatever and as we know i i experienced wild changes back when i was doing

00:26:28.780 dance the chakras right kundalini yoga all that kind of stuff what if you know what if you and

00:26:34.520 me are trying to be good little tm and sit down and do our thing but we're forcing a kind of

00:26:39.340 masculine what if for example moving meditation was our natural way

00:26:44.340 what if what if embodied meditation was our okay was where it was where we yeah where the

00:26:54.500 where the spiritual and the and the grotesque met for us okay yeah and we're like fighting it like

00:27:01.160 like there's a prejudice against that there's a prejudice against like ecstatic dancing stoic 0.97

00:27:06.480 oh by the way ecstatic dancing that's the shit i had yeah that that stuff's crazy that'll get you 0.92

00:27:11.700 crazy people that are really into that like going going from but you don't have to just be up like 0.96

00:27:18.320 like the dance of the chakras thing starting you're like stamping your feet yeah and the roots

00:27:23.220 are going to the ground feet feet feet there was this other one by shiva ray that was incredible

00:27:27.180 an audio program took you through i mean when i was doing this i was like at another level

00:27:33.140 you know forgot you know what i mean like life happened but shiva ray it was called

00:27:38.800 shock you dance or something it was like 45 minutes long and it whipped you from it whipped

00:27:44.200 you from you started with the roots and the feet and the stamping and then up the up to the knees

00:27:48.820 and then the knees catch fire god it really shows anything anything like i got down some wormhole 0.80

00:27:54.800 on instagram where i came across this woman who's obsessed with like jade vaginal jade eggs and this 1.00

00:28:01.520 whole thing of like the key to manifestation it's in your pussy and she's like a wet pussy will 1.00

00:28:06.280 bring in anything that you want yeah and she's like going down this thing and she's like it's 1.00

00:28:11.140 all very straight though she's like the cock i'm like oh god like she just really but she's like 1.00

00:28:16.400 she's talking about um and then she has this woman who's like i my pussy knows everything 1.00

00:28:21.180 she's like i'll be she talks about like she's a job at a warehouse and she's like i go down 1.00

00:28:25.060 the aisles of the warehouse my pussy knows which which aisle to turn down like i'll listen which 1.00

00:28:30.080 is incredible okay and i was like i'm very interested in this and then this woman who's 0.99

00:28:35.340 like talks about and does she use the word pussy yeah and this woman who's in it who's like yeah 1.00

00:28:39.800 i've been training with a jade egg whatever she's like i gave birth it was pure um there's no pain 0.99

00:28:44.880 it's coming the whole time no okay it's always an orgasmic birth with you i was like that was

00:28:53.240 actually an early stand-up bit of mine really early didn't do well or do you want to save it

00:28:58.200 well i didn't want to hear it it's genius jason or whatever i love you so much i can't believe

00:29:04.040 you remember that i mean it's it's horrendous i was talking about coming on like my son's head

00:29:08.360 or whatever it's like horrific phenomenal is one of the key reasons that i recognize your greatness

00:29:13.940 oh my god thank you i remember doing that i remember that was a specific bit i did or like

00:29:19.520 a man like i'm like a like a sleazy manager with his business card was like yeah you gotta ditch

00:29:23.580 that stuff but uh it's like no but you got something you got something but i wouldn't do

00:29:28.080 that stuff yeah um but uh oh my god but yeah but this woman's like meanwhile i'm worried i'm like

00:29:33.620 save it save it uh leave it all out and i'm gonna create your next special around it but yeah but

00:29:39.420 she's talking about you know pain during birth loving it coming the whole time now i'm like in

00:29:44.480 my mind i'm like cervical orgasms like that's the big that's like the thing this woman's talking

00:29:48.760 about and this other girl's talk and now i squirt from kissing i was like well i actually don't want 1.00

00:29:52.780 that i don't want to be like making out and be like drenching yeah a surface um but this woman

00:30:00.260 is such a free now you're being served this like this oh i've not been in the warehouse it's this

00:30:06.740 guy that i follow on instagram who i saw visually in air one and i saw him and i kind of was like

00:30:13.300 oh my god it's him and then like a vision looked at me i saw him in the yam aisle and um by the

00:30:22.320 yam basket and he yam aisle for cape berlant i know because you know it looks like you ask a

00:30:27.280 mechanic he'll give you a hammer right it's always yams with you i know you're always i'm obsessed

00:30:33.720 with yams i know so i looked i looked at him and it was that thing where he looked at me and i

00:30:39.420 thought does he know like is there a world where somehow he got into poog like because i maybe

00:30:45.920 liked something you know i'm just like in some world does he know or is he just looking at me 0.99

00:30:50.380 you know oh because he was looking no it wasn't he's looking at he's like our eyes his pussy knew 0.99

00:30:55.420 yeah his pussy knew like truly and it was like he and he does a whole thing about um 0.99

00:31:01.940 i don't even know what his thing oh i saw jade stones and no no but that's how i got to the 1.00

00:31:07.560 jade stone pussy one was this through him um i saw she called the jade stone sorry yeah yeah go 1.00

00:31:14.220 you were saying like her being like the cock like yeah she's like the jade stone 0.99

00:31:19.460 the the jade stone because i remember back in the days in the crystal shops okay it would be like 0.61

00:31:27.600 there were these um egg it's an egg you know egg shaped stone but sometimes they would be like

00:31:34.000 that's that's they basically would be like sometimes they'd act like that was like the

00:31:38.360 word egg has feminine connotation and like uh uh not vestibule um vessel connotation but then

00:31:47.600 they're like but oh i i know what it was it was like it was like shivaling them or something okay

00:31:52.360 wait let me see and they were it was like it contains the masculine and the feminine because

00:31:56.480 they're like it's a stone you have this stone object particularly if they're putting it in

00:32:03.160 themselves is that not kind of penetrative energy or are they acting like you're putting the stone

00:32:09.660 in and you are the egg i have no fucking idea is the answer yeah i think it's about like kegel 0.93

00:32:15.600 muscle training but then of course this freak is like and it you know it's like good reproductive 0.98

00:32:20.560 health it's like you know it's like all this stuff and then gwen it came in trouble the jade egg was 0.72

00:32:25.720 like the thing that was synonymous with why goop was like a laughing stock because like gwen it

00:32:30.500 had to pay out i think she had to pay out for it some claim on the goop website about the jade egg

00:32:36.520 or something and i'm i'm well we'll do the research or we won't but there was something

00:32:40.520 it was like i think she had to actually pay um and then yeah this girl talking about shooting 1.00

00:32:45.180 why is this the big thing people want to do oh yeah i start shooting ping pongs out of my pussy 1.00

00:32:49.180 like what you're like why is that the um well like why is i mean knowing nothing but like is 1.00

00:32:57.960 must childbirth be painless like you know what i mean like totally right yeah where do you want

00:33:04.560 to accept the claim yeah i i don't know i know not of what i speak there is definitely

00:33:10.760 there is definitely a connection between sexual energy and like creative energy or whatever 0.99

00:33:15.880 like for sure but it's like i don't know these women with their ping pongs i just

00:33:21.700 i just can't get behind it i'm happy for them but i just it's not the energy into the ping pong

00:33:27.460 okay and it's hitting how is it getting into your art like yeah it's bouncing against the wall like

00:33:33.900 and diffusing if you're exactly that's what i mean like if you're shooting the ping pong

00:33:39.480 you're not like starting a business with your like you're not like manifesting a business it's

00:33:45.220 like you've made you've made manifest i mean i remember doing belly dancing um video that i

00:33:55.340 really enjoyed and frankly should get back into and i can't remember her name right now it'll come

00:34:00.520 to me but you know we're working hips and and you know she'd say these things that if someone passed

00:34:05.080 by the room they would hear and laugh you know but like you know it was like you know the power

00:34:10.480 in the hips the power in the hips and we're kind of like are we talking symbolically what's going

00:34:13.940 on and like you can what is like in shaking the hips and there's a lot to do weird it's weird

00:34:23.180 it's like if you go through a period where I don't know everything is as meaningful as it is

00:34:32.440 to the person you know it's like the the ping pong balls could be a symbolic act of

00:34:39.260 whatever that lets them understand no god bless truly i'm like great great and this woman is 1.00

00:34:44.000 talking about how now she gives her husband handjobs with her pussy i was like what she's 1.00

00:34:49.200 like genius she's like she's like my and she's like my husband loves my pussy now i was like 1.00

00:34:54.740 great like sorry i had to go through a 12 course ping pong course to get him on board but and it's 1.00

00:35:00.740 like she's like he he says it feels like a thousand hands like jerking him a thousand tiny hands yeah 1.00

00:35:10.440 and i'm like show us the husbands i want to see these motherfuckers well well yeah i saw this 1.00

00:35:17.500 i saw this i saw this um thing it was what was it about facial massage or something you know 0.99

00:35:25.020 and I mean it's like my life is like about like all I am on Instagram is lymphatic drainage

00:35:36.160 facial massage facial exercise it's like oh that's my hobby apparently yeah and um I'm trying

00:35:43.120 to understand it but oh yeah I'm really this thing of opening up okay pumping the pumping

00:35:49.480 the armpits what's that 10 times to because that's the ultimate where like lymph ultimately i think 0.88

00:35:55.560 that's like where it dumps it into the liver or something okay to move the shit out the armpits

00:36:00.500 are like the final stop i think okay and then and then there's the termini which is under the 0.78

00:36:05.960 collarbone and under from above i mean for anyone listening okay and you can pump this to open this

00:36:12.500 up and then so any any of the lymphatic drainage you gotta you gotta pump these termini okay right

00:36:17.660 here okay and so it's like very appealing idea like warm it up warm it up and i've been pumping

00:36:23.580 all this kind of stuff i don't like the idea of pumping the lymph it just makes me want to throw

00:36:27.740 up so so wait hold on hold on wait take me back oh the husbands oh yeah so she's like

00:36:34.880 it was like i and like you know of course so focused on the result that i don't notice

00:36:39.800 sort of the meaning and then finally i did i was like maybe it was a meditation but i was like

00:36:43.400 she's like my husband thought i'd gotten a facelift okay but what you had done and it's

00:36:49.200 like but instead how does after no after or after you know lymphatic drainage or whatever like or

00:36:56.380 like you know after i did these exercises for two weeks okay your husband doesn't know you're you

00:37:01.100 don't like he thinks you might have gotten a facelift so yeah where's your husband well that's

00:37:06.980 always the question how often do you see the man yeah like did you get a facelift you know what

00:37:13.820 i'm saying i mean it's it's just so devastating you're like no you just haven't looked at me 0.94

00:37:21.360 in years yeah you've been glanced you just don't see anything god damn yes honey i did 0.61

00:37:28.440 take that to the end what's the logical end yeah no right exactly well you were out with the boys 0.79

00:37:38.260 i was getting a facelift yeah yeah and remember how you didn't see me for two weeks yeah you know

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00:41:28.460 I've been leaming the neck with a ferocity.

00:41:31.660 I gotta get back in.

00:41:33.020 actually no i can't say i've been doing it with a ferocity i've been but when i'm watching the tube

00:41:38.360 i sort of lay it somewhere but you're watching these days and a good show

00:41:42.460 just just finish true detective god i listen i turned on episode one because i got excited i

00:41:49.180 went okay great we all remember the goofiest thing on earth which i guess everyone talks about i've

00:41:53.960 missed the discourse entirely what but i was also amazed like they're both playing straight women 0.99

00:41:57.660 and it's like really dark like when that one was like writing that guy's dick i was like wait wait 0.97

00:42:03.900 what poor jody's like she says something she's like oh god i love she's like it's something i'm 0.99

00:42:12.540 just like it's so crazy what are you guys doing oh people are such senile losers making both of

00:42:20.660 them straight is so weird well i i don't want to give anything away oh wait does something go down 0.86

00:42:27.300 You wish, you wish.

00:42:28.760 Okay.

00:42:29.220 That would have been great.

00:42:30.080 No, but one of the characters does say that she's had girlfriends.

00:42:33.800 Okay, so she's...

00:42:35.100 A single line of dialogue is thrown to the wolves. 0.54

00:42:40.320 That's crazy.

00:42:42.000 I won't say anything about the show,

00:42:43.420 but I did ultimately very much enjoy...

00:42:45.500 It's supernatural.

00:42:47.240 Well, it can be read two ways.

00:42:49.380 Cool, cool.

00:42:50.360 I was watching, again, the first episode,

00:42:53.100 and it's so funny when shows like that try to be funny.

00:42:55.640 Like, it just never works.

00:42:56.720 like every joke bombs hard like what was it was something like yeah well uh what is it i can't

00:43:03.160 remember is a character who's supposed to be funny and they crack a line but there was something

00:43:08.680 we're supposed to go there was something this thing of like or it's like when something's

00:43:11.900 written by people who are i say it's with respect old and they're trying to say something about the

00:43:15.820 current culture like there's a character who's like has like his phone set up ostensibly to

00:43:20.000 record some kind of tiktok video a front-facing video and it's like whoever wrote this or set

00:43:23.920 this up has no idea what this actually looks like it's like a character making a sandwich he's like

00:43:28.140 hey guys what's up today it's just like this isn't even yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it's based on it's

00:43:34.840 like they wrote it based on another television show that had that character in it which was

00:43:40.500 based on like no one actually needs to see a person making a tiktok although i did see someone

00:43:46.100 driving down the street in los angeles like i saw like full-on almost like that really you know

00:43:51.360 almost like the cliche you know when you're like think the cliche isn't and then you come across

00:43:56.040 like like someone like taking it again you know like yeah taking it again and then like i'm here

00:44:01.700 in front of them they're absolutely out there i was thinking about i'm just hold on i'm getting

00:44:07.620 going into a full split oh i've been going in studio i'm coming 95 by the way i emailed tracy

00:44:17.260 i emailed the website going hello because i was like i want to come in for a private to like learn

00:44:21.860 the ropes yeah no response interesting see if you can pull some strings for me yeah i think you just

00:44:29.300 got to go to book class and then you hit on private website i'm coming for you see in my 0.93

00:44:36.760 my distance my ass is gonna be up to my shoulders by the summer it's always about you always think 0.99

00:44:41.420 your ass needs to be lifted it's never been anywhere but high flying i've actually been 1.00

00:44:45.460 having kind of a healing experience with my ass lately i feel like it's always like get a new ass 1.00

00:44:49.840 by january with you always i've brought this up before but it's always like i need a new ass 0.99

00:44:53.380 i never think about it's just behind me wow it's in the dust it's in the wind well i literally 0.95

00:45:01.260 never think like about my that's also because you don't have the pain that i have it's like

00:45:06.260 my lower the pain brings you to it and then vanity follows well just that i can't do the

00:45:10.800 stuff that you can probably do oh no i just mean in my life hip issues i don't know i just don't 0.97

00:45:16.660 think about it that much okay not to be an asshole what time do you go to the studio it varies 0.90

00:45:21.300 6 30 sometimes p.m yeah 10 a.m jesus can you imagine but yeah i'd get into like some 7 a.m 0.97

00:45:29.020 practice if i could rediscover the early morning when i say re to suggest that i've ever really

00:45:35.440 known it but imagine knowing dawn imagine knowing dawn like it's a part of your life i know well i

00:45:42.160 was thinking about this about um lacey phillips or is it yeah i was gonna say lacey peters i know

00:45:47.720 lacey phillips the magnetic woman and how she wakes up at dawn and then she got my big obsession 1.00

00:45:52.500 about her is that she once the sun is setting she turns off all no more screens in the house

00:45:57.560 no more artificial lights all candles we've talked about this yes because i've done i have

00:46:02.860 my digital version which is still better than most because i have little battery operated candles

00:46:06.960 that turn on at like 5 30 yeah yeah yeah i gotta recharge them it's i mean i gotta put my new

00:46:11.840 rechargeable batteries in them that's the one thing that

00:46:14.780 uh-oh as usual i aspirated my own saliva which a classic what'll take me in the end um oh i'm

00:46:25.380 thinking of ordering the straw i saw this thing that goes under a straw it trains you in getting

00:46:31.100 your tongue against the roof of your mouth like mewing and all the benefits and breathing it's

00:46:35.960 marketed as a anti-snoring thing but in general it does everything and uh i want it i want it i want

00:46:43.560 it it's huge and then the other thing i'm i'm kind of wanting but i refuse to pay yeah so you know

00:46:52.740 the emf stuff right oh no it's a bad rabbit hole right if you go down there you're just like okay

00:46:59.060 were all i had a friend recently that was like you don't have emf blockers on your phone like

00:47:02.960 are you insane and i almost no yeah and they do yeah i'm gonna text her right now is it like the

00:47:09.460 little disc i don't know i'm gonna text her right now because your text text i'd like a personal 0.94

00:47:14.180 wreck on this because what so i get served one it's a little medallion you wear it around your

00:47:19.780 neck to protect you from electromagnetic frequencies full julianne more tight medallion

00:47:26.380 ridiculous what full what julian moore and safe you know like it's a film i don't think i've seen

00:47:34.280 it you you haven't seen safe as well you have to see safe tonight is it old yes it's todd haynes 0.75

00:47:41.380 it's his oh my god no i haven't seen that jacqueline

00:47:45.040 i'm wordless run okay when you were saying safe i was like somehow hasn't seen it okay incredible

00:47:51.920 s-a-f-e so it's poog it's poog so the medallion i see it we should do merch that's poog but in

00:47:59.160 the safe um genius wow this is actually huge okay i mean i'd say that already sold i know i already

00:48:05.000 know it's my favorite film and don't forget merch is live folks the merch company has been

00:48:08.660 tough so sorry if you've had any issues let us know but uh buy the merch if anyone wants to

00:48:14.960 wildly revolutionize the merch industry partner partner with me okay i have some ideas about that

00:48:19.900 um tiny medallion i have trouble believing that the tiny medallion yeah you should have trouble

00:48:27.840 believing that that sounds but i do i can buy it i can get into it but then here was the problem 0.96

00:48:34.200 for me so i go i go fuck it i'm buying it i don't care okay if it's fake i click the medallion yeah 0.92

00:48:39.080 i click through the link and it's one of these endless scroll which is so like 2002 0.99

00:48:46.780 infomercial but on a web page which is you scroll they make you scroll you're trying to get to

00:48:53.360 purchase it's really actually like sick it's like this thing where because you can't get to the

00:48:57.780 purchase button and see how much it is you're almost like more invested okay and you just keep

00:49:01.700 going scrolling scrolling and you're like and it's and they do this thing where they lay out

00:49:05.740 this is like classic they lay out like what it should cost oh right they're like it should be

00:49:11.380 And then they're like, you're getting a $2,000 thing for, you know, $286, okay, or some random number.

00:49:19.480 And then, like, and if you buy it now, you know, in the next 10 minutes, you know, absolutely.

00:49:25.680 Right, right, right. Knock another 40 off.

00:49:26.700 Really am I not? If I come back to your website tomorrow, I'm not going to be offered the same.

00:49:31.520 Whatever.

00:49:32.440 And so I go, why are they doing, like, why are they doing this cheeseball marketing technique 0.98

00:49:37.360 that is completely entirely and only associated with like bullshit products like you're telling 0.90

00:49:44.440 me there's science here and then you're you're doing this version of the buy now i know exactly 0.99

00:49:50.600 and i had to back out i had to x my ass out you backed out good for you i'm glad you backed out 0.90

00:49:56.260 and here i am yearning oh i have something to say i was humbled deeply because about three weeks ago 0.97

00:50:02.240 i got the common cold and i had oh i know you were humble you forgot you thought it was a three day

00:50:08.560 extravaganza i had to tell you like it's like two weeks of your life men it was two weeks it was

00:50:13.600 two weeks i was doing a show okay i was doing eight shows a week seven or eight shows a week

00:50:17.900 i was never i never had to cancel a show it was never to the point where i but there was a there

00:50:23.440 were there was one day by the way i had a matinee i drank i did i took day cool and had a celsius

00:50:28.420 oh and i was wow tripping and i got off stage and i was like i actually can't drive i had to

00:50:35.700 have someone drive me because i was like yeah yeah it was crazy but the cold the way the common cold

00:50:42.420 humbles you i couldn't believe it because here i am i've been knock on wood i've had this incredible

00:50:48.240 kind of immune system and fending and i've been doing it got me it got me and by the way i was

00:50:54.140 deeply grateful it wasn't covid you know as far as i know testing whatever but the way when health

00:50:59.960 returns holy shit yeah when health returns and i was saying i was saying i was like a day of health

00:51:07.820 any day of good health is like the most unbelievable blessing from god imaginable 0.96

00:51:12.180 right and it really is true it's like there's nothing even even just a sore i mean a sore

00:51:17.140 throat or it's like when the health returns you're like oh my god and every every other

00:51:23.360 thing you aspire for or you know it's like all desires fade when the health returns yeah you're

00:51:30.060 just like oh anyway we're no i'm just like built and i had some great supplements immediately take

00:51:36.520 it for granted within a day's time it's like here i'm thinking about the beginning of the episode 0.97

00:51:40.960 right us oh here maximize if you have health you have everything and it's the cock sucking truth 1.00

00:51:49.260 yeah i don't care how many hand jobs you're giving your husband inside your pussy it's like 1.00

00:51:53.840 um for those of us just joining yeah but um and i'll post on the gram for fun the the wellness 0.99

00:52:01.600 supplements i was taking but i couldn't i still do think it was the kind of cold where if i could

00:52:05.160 just have stayed in bed i would have been fine after four days but because i was working well

00:52:08.880 remember i never had a chance to fully rest for you what was it i can't you're like i can't heal

00:52:14.460 because um i'm draining my energy night stage and i go don't think of it as draining your energy you

00:52:19.700 know you know you're doing your your art think of it as like the show heals well i started saying

00:52:24.420 the show heals because like there was one night where i was like there was really only one time

00:52:28.540 where i kind of was like the product is suffering there was one show where you could hear it in my

00:52:33.280 voice and i just felt kind of low energy and i was like i don't like this because i'm just not

00:52:38.440 giving my best show and but then i came off stage and i felt better and i said i turned to my stage

00:52:44.140 manager i said the show heals the show heals because doing it at least takes you out of it

00:52:49.320 also yeah that as performers okay yeah the body is a reality right and the body's effect on the

00:52:59.400 so-called product the body cannot be removed from the product okay so instead of seeing it as

00:53:06.040 your cold was making the product suffer it's like you your body that just is the product that is the

00:53:12.840 product because it is right it's like i look i look look vocal here she comes she means business

00:53:22.000 yeah sure you know what i mean it's like okay like it's like sure you know like yeah like don't

00:53:28.960 don't get a cold you know but when it's there well by the way something else happened i know

00:53:34.360 you'll relate to this strange euphoria because i am so paranoid about and hyper fixated on not

00:53:40.840 getting sick just kind of generally i have fear of course covet exacerbated this but it's like

00:53:44.720 the common cold anything i'm like really like i will be completely if somebody sniffles around

00:53:49.280 me i'm like get the fuck out of here and i really find it like i do deep the thing i'm judgmental

00:53:55.680 of most probably people who are sick and in public or i mean like you know the thing is like you're 0.96

00:54:00.340 at we've talked about this but it's like you've been sitting next to someone at dinner party all

00:54:03.160 night and they go i'm gonna duck out early i'm not feeling well actually like i'm kind of fighting 0.93

00:54:06.480 this cold why the fuck did you come cool i'm so glad yeah that your baguette was spread across my 0.97

00:54:11.320 yeah mouth the whole night i love the way you shared your bread with me and your poor choices 0.99

00:54:17.280 i mean it's just upon your fingers but but but this thing that i had been fearing

00:54:23.200 happened and again it wasn't a severe case okay yeah but i was like there is something we go oh

00:54:29.440 this is what i've been fearing and i'm okay right it's kind of the true medicine for cape

00:54:35.240 superland illness no but to land in the center of the storm where there's a strange flight strong

00:54:41.880 and brave okay people around me were going wow can't believe you're really you know you're really 0.97

00:54:45.300 you're not canceling shows you're doing it i go you know what it's not a fucking migraine 0.79

00:54:49.220 and anything is tolerable because i'm so used to living with the chronic pain it's like oh if this 0.85

00:54:54.460 were a migraine right like that would make me want to actually cry there was once i had the cold and

00:54:59.220 i felt like i was going to cry because i would just felt like but yeah if it's not a migraine

00:55:04.280 i'm like all right like i find like with a cold the worst part is the sort of day two if it

00:55:12.600 progresses along the path the sort of day two throat like oh to me a sore throat oh well this

00:55:18.720 is what i kept saying i kept saying at least if it were a sore throat then i would have to cancel

00:55:23.160 or whatever right and then toward the end suddenly sore throat started to sort of come on but it was

00:55:27.380 never bad but that i had the the numbing spray and i go modern medicine is you go to cvs i know

00:55:32.960 you get a throat spray numbing spray tastes like poison or like what like probably like they're

00:55:37.780 probably like the most extreme version of not modern medicine because i feel like they're just

00:55:41.580 like a numbing like agent but and now just it's insane just spray spray spray like straight from

00:55:48.860 a numbing plant and you just put it in your throat but you're like weird with throat feels

00:55:53.400 when you swallow when it's got that thing it actually gives me anxiety or something i don't

00:55:58.200 like it it's like it feels like a tongue back there i don't like i have like numbness really

00:56:03.760 freaks me out i don't like that and it puts me kind of in anxiety state like i when i had when 0.94

00:56:08.380 i went to a dentist who was a piece of shit years ago who was like 14 years old and experimenting 0.95

00:56:12.120 on me yeah that's what it felt like he he was having all this fun injecting me with 0.98

00:56:18.640 nova k making me numb and i was like hi i was like i have a lot of anxiety around numbness like

00:56:23.520 can you tell me if i'm like gonna be numb or something and he's like he was like and then

00:56:28.960 it was a thing where i checked back later and he'd been fired or something and i was like

00:56:31.580 oh cool so he was evil oh god i wish i had the information right and you were open mouth open

00:56:38.380 mouth he was yeah sadistic i've talked about this in the podcast i think that he was like i had the

00:56:43.660 nurse there and he's like go for it i go i don't think it's set yet oh god okay so at the dentist

00:56:48.340 i go give me more i go i go how will i know which pain is like what i'm supposed to be experiencing

00:56:56.620 i know they're like you'll feel pressure i'm like what do you mean and i'm like how bad would the 0.70

00:57:01.700 pain be i can't hear about it i'm not prepared i can't hear about it he goes machete in your mouth

00:57:07.280 that's how it feels just imagine someone with all the force of machete the force of the force of

00:57:12.820 generations pulling them coming down with a machete between your eyes see i don't that's

00:57:18.900 not what i imagine the horrifying pain being i imagine more because i find i nearly blacked

00:57:24.800 out slash left my body during a cleaning okay because of the of tooth sensitivity and they

00:57:30.880 use the word tooth sensitivity like like it makes it sound like it's something subtle

00:57:34.280 i would take any pain over what they refer to as sensitivity oh god it is like biting on a fork

00:57:41.760 it is like electricity uh it is i was lying there and i had to go it's i had to say to myself it's

00:57:49.260 not pain right like i was like it's different than pain it's worse than pain for sure but i go if it's

00:57:55.340 not pain and i just have to tolerate it right now yeah what how do i surrender to this and so i'm

00:58:01.660 telling myself like it's a sensation it's a sensation that i that feels like the most wrong

00:58:09.140 thing is happening possible i have to get my teeth cleaned and i'm like to let it kick me out of my

00:58:16.200 body i'm like it was like it was like and then it was like i was almost like like the feeling like

00:58:21.680 okay okay okay that's actually been too triggering for people and then i'm like

00:58:28.240 like like trying to like transcend like basically give myself over to it become

00:58:36.040 become the thing that was happening to me like

00:58:39.400 by the way sorry just to end on a just to i mean that's terrifying and it makes me so

00:58:45.560 uncomfortable that's why i'm glossing over it i know on we go but i want to just say

00:58:48.980 for those of you who are in los angeles and came to my my run of kate at the pasadena playhouse

00:58:54.120 thank you so much and guess who came george oh and he came backstage wait george is the one who

00:59:01.700 retired yeah yeah so george came light of my life best he came to see one of george's girls

00:59:08.360 yep he came to see one of george's girls in action and guess who also came george's son

00:59:14.240 yep not okay no actually not the son but the new george my new guy now wait the new guy is not

00:59:21.200 george's son no george's son is also a doctor but no oh okay i always know that confused my new

00:59:27.360 But he passes his women.

00:59:28.740 God bless. 0.99

00:59:29.180 He passes them down.

00:59:30.180 He hands them off ceremonially.

00:59:31.160 Came backstage with his wife.

00:59:32.680 It was wonderful.

00:59:34.140 Passing it down.

00:59:35.140 He ceremonially, he comes into the room.

00:59:37.620 He calls his son in.

00:59:39.240 And the legs go up in the stirrups.

00:59:41.420 And then he goes like, boom.

00:59:43.220 What's that?

00:59:43.620 And he angles the whole.

00:59:45.280 I'm imagining a ceremonial passing along from father to son of his patients.

00:59:49.400 Moving it to me.

00:59:49.720 He turns the open legs towards the son.

00:59:53.520 oh well um great to be back it's great to be back see you soon love ya love ya

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