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00:02:36.100 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:37.620 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:02:38.720 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

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00:02:50.620 Today's topic, loosely speaking, miracle dance. 0.99

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00:02:56.320 Hello

00:03:00.640 Hello

00:03:01.600 Look what I'll start with

00:03:02.940 Whoa

00:03:04.140 In hand water bottle

00:03:05.760 POOG

00:03:06.460 The POOG

00:03:07.220 Water bottle

00:03:07.440 Turning around

00:03:07.980 Let me see

00:03:08.480 Which is fabulous

00:03:09.520 Real quality here

00:03:10.860 Don't doubt my water

00:03:12.520 Don't doubt my water

00:03:13.600 You hear that?

00:03:15.340 Oh yeah

00:03:15.980 By the way

00:03:16.480 I love this so much

00:03:17.980 Went on a walk with it today

00:03:19.200 It has a loop

00:03:20.480 Really?

00:03:20.700 So you can swing with it

00:03:21.840 You know you can walk

00:03:22.600 kind of swing it in the hand.

00:03:24.100 When a water bottle has no loop,

00:03:26.900 tell when you're going on walks.

00:03:28.320 Interesting.

00:03:29.040 What do you just do?

00:03:30.420 Like palm it like a basketball?

00:03:32.360 Exactly.

00:03:33.340 And this is so,

00:03:35.880 I just love this.

00:03:36.840 I'm going to throw away other water bottles I have.

00:03:39.200 That's how devoted I am.

00:03:40.680 I've been on a kind of water bottle thing.

00:03:45.280 And so it's actually making me want to have

00:03:47.560 nine water bottles,

00:03:49.480 POOG,

00:03:50.160 expand the collection.

00:03:52.600 add boots are you familiar with boots that go on the bottom of a water bottle like a silicone sleeve

00:03:58.900 i want like our water bottles our poo water bottles to have like 10 different accoutrements

00:04:05.080 i have a lot of ideas but anyway but that said the quality here yeah like it's quality in its

00:04:11.500 core and you start with it now everyone needs one in hand because the designs will be i also 0.65

00:04:17.080 today for the first time got some some goddamn merch i got the poo blue sweatshirts unbelievable 0.95

00:04:23.300 Okay, good, because I'm waiting. 0.97

00:04:25.820 And I've got something that's, I think I said,

00:04:28.240 underselling in a way I don't understand.

00:04:29.760 Guys, the proud eavesdropper shirt, which is so...

00:04:32.600 Is it actually underselling or is it just like...

00:04:35.300 I'm not sure.

00:04:35.900 You know, like something has to sell.

00:04:37.680 Like if, you know what I mean?

00:04:39.560 Like unless they're all going to sell the same exact number,

00:04:42.040 something has to be less.

00:04:43.100 Right, right, right. I hear you.

00:04:43.860 You know, the old Jewish joke of like the Jewish mother 0.99

00:04:47.040 and, you know, getting the son the red shirt and the blue shirt 0.85

00:04:51.000 for a gift. You know, next day he comes down wearing a red shirt. Hey, he ate the blue shirt.

00:04:56.820 Oh my God. That's amazing. I know. Whoa. In my dream last night, sorry, this is too graphic.

00:05:04.160 I took a tampon out that I had forgotten about and had been there for like weeks and weeks in

00:05:08.560 my dream. And I was like, oh my God. And whatever. Was it normal or was it, did it turn into a

00:05:15.860 parrot or something it was just kind of like horrifying but yeah i'm speaking of periods

00:05:21.880 i'm probably going to drop tomorrow today tits sore and overwhelming rage which really was

00:05:28.160 helpful because i woke up raging oh the knowledge was like i have to take the walk went on the walk 0.54

00:05:33.180 with poog with the poog water bottle yeah and um listened to ram das that didn't help

00:05:38.940 and was spiraling and then but Jacqueline wait wait wait how do you how when did you get into

00:05:46.520 Ram Dass 1902 no I don't mean when I mean how I don't know what the initial wait oh you mean

00:05:56.420 listening to like like what like a book like a Ram Dass lecture nice but then guess what

00:06:02.160 lifted me from my pain the knowledge of poog the knowledge of jar poog and also right I got

00:06:10.580 distracted no but wasn't the whole point though that realizing you were premenstrual is what

00:06:14.680 solved it for you or no well that helped too because I was like wow I'm really raging right

00:06:19.600 now and then I realized okay then it is liberating when that happens it's like oh

00:06:24.180 Oh, all according to plan, me wanting to break a glass.

00:06:29.260 Yeah.

00:06:30.760 Did you comment on my before afters of my office?

00:06:35.540 Did you see them?

00:06:36.520 I think I did like a heart or something.

00:06:38.180 Yeah.

00:06:38.640 Although I found your before, as usual, like utterly, utterly unimpressive.

00:06:43.640 You know, like I was like, you think that's a mess, honey?

00:06:48.160 Okay.

00:06:49.340 I mean, yes, your desk was covered in papers.

00:06:52.160 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:52.620 And there was more chaos in the closet.

00:06:55.540 Yeah.

00:06:56.140 No, I believe.

00:06:57.060 I don't know why I have to.

00:06:58.960 Well, the organizers sorted out her amazing.

00:07:02.300 And then this morning I woke up, I go, get it all out.

00:07:04.060 I'm in the shower getting rid of things.

00:07:05.980 Suddenly I go, oh, here's an Epicurean scrub that I haven't touched in two years.

00:07:11.120 Get it out of the shower.

00:07:12.460 And then I just, now I want to work on.

00:07:13.940 Wait, let's talk about this.

00:07:15.020 This is actually huge.

00:07:15.820 Are you ready?

00:07:16.360 Okay.

00:07:16.640 You know what is an issue?

00:07:19.020 Scrubs. 1.00

00:07:20.280 Scrubs and tubs.

00:07:21.560 Okay.

00:07:22.000 I mean, scrubs and tubs in the tub. 0.97

00:07:23.960 Okay.

00:07:24.320 No, scrubs and tubs and tubs.

00:07:25.460 Are you really moving through those or?

00:07:29.880 They're trophies.

00:07:31.660 Yeah.

00:07:32.740 They're not.

00:07:33.460 Like what?

00:07:33.960 Every day dipping four fingers,

00:07:37.680 cawing into the thing,

00:07:39.460 mixing up the sort of grabbing the oil,

00:07:41.920 slicking up the,

00:07:43.480 they are. 0.92

00:07:44.740 This is why pumps reign supreme. 0.93

00:07:48.140 Pumps.

00:07:48.620 In a squeeze bottle even has become a struggle.

00:07:50.620 supreme pump it out or get it out no i have to i have to run to get a new quality pump product

00:07:59.620 or chris will purchase the kroger because of the pump if i don't refill fast enough with

00:08:05.200 something from our poo closet it's pump based okay yeah it's it's pump at all costs do you is

00:08:12.480 this real that maybe when you start using lotion then your body needs lotion but your body doesn't

00:08:17.960 need lotion if you don't give it that's like the carmex principle of 1998 that carmex dries your

00:08:24.120 lips out exactly well by the way i had a really rageful relationship with aquaphor i was i was

00:08:31.220 starting to condemn aquaphor and go this isn't hydrating at all but then i realized i was using

00:08:35.740 the aquaphor my lips that had built-in spf and the spf aquaphor formula for lip well is aquaphor

00:08:41.420 even supposed to be hydrating or is it more of a no but is it more yes because you know an

00:08:49.260 occlusive or whatever i know i don't know they lie then because on the thing it's all about

00:08:53.940 cracked lips cracked skin right but i think that's because i don't think it's real i don't

00:08:58.320 think it actually is hydrating me anyway i was going i was railing against aquifer but i okay

00:09:03.580 i have something to say yeah which is that we were sent you should have received yours magic mind

00:09:08.460 oh yeah have you begun have you have you had any sure have i like that now we just don't even talk

00:09:16.740 about like we just start we just use products like i don't know we'll know things we don't

00:09:21.480 discuss it we're just like we're just like on a new regimen but yeah i've been taking it well

00:09:26.580 i have something to say which is that i had to fill out a form today that was i've been dreading

00:09:32.580 for 24 hours now and you know when you get a form and it's like shows up you download it and

00:09:39.100 then you bring it up and then it's in a preview and you have to like hit the text box to fill it

00:09:42.720 out have you had a hellish experience with that it's yeah it's one of the modern I've changed

00:09:48.980 whole terms of my my life could have taken different terms turns that I prevented through

00:09:55.320 an inability to fill out those forms I wonder if that's a premenstrual energy because being able to

00:10:00.420 fill out the form? Unexpectedly, yes. There are benefits. The creative phase, okay? Before you

00:10:07.960 drop, as you say, has a lot of power. And I've told you this before, but did you know that the

00:10:13.520 premenstrual phase, the creative, aka the creative phase, an instinct, there's a strong driving

00:10:20.680 instinct to clean up and throw things out. Stop. I'm completely, I'm completely saved up then.

00:10:26.520 real okay it's real and they one of these books i read remember the optimized woman 0.99

00:10:33.600 i was like there's a woman who just has the expression of a bitch on the cover 0.64

00:10:37.260 yeah but like but like i read all those are great and like moon cycle whatever and they're like 0.97

00:10:43.680 yeah this driving desire to like like tidy things up and get rid of things to prepare for the bleed

00:10:49.080 wow i mean that is absolutely where you're gonna have to go in and you're gonna meditate and you're

00:10:56.500 Yeah. That makes total sense. It's tidying up the affairs. I love it. But also scattered beyond.

00:11:04.880 The point is magic mind took it, drank it. Suddenly I'm filling out the form. I'm feeling

00:11:10.480 fine. And I feel like it did create a certain focus and clarity. And also we've been gifted

00:11:16.120 and I've really, and to be clear, I begged for magic mind. So thank you. We were gifted and

00:11:21.060 I'm curious about trying it. I think I'm really going to is fatty 15, that like omega three plus

00:11:25.720 I've been out for a month.

00:11:27.580 We were gifted, thank God.

00:11:28.980 Anything?

00:11:29.700 I mean, my life is in a constant state of modification and optimization.

00:11:35.720 One a day?

00:11:37.040 Yeah, where it's basically...

00:11:39.720 Sorry.

00:11:40.140 Night.

00:11:40.620 I do it at night.

00:11:42.180 I'm going to do it.

00:11:44.140 I got some produce at Air One.

00:11:46.700 It was a container of riced cauliflower and broccoli.

00:11:51.960 Oh, Jesus.

00:11:52.600 It came up on the thing as $500, literally.

00:11:55.720 fit and then they spent 10 minutes with them dealing with it you know like getting it getting

00:12:00.260 it back and how much was it supposed to be 50 yeah i mean like chris was like how is it you know but

00:12:05.140 that's amazing i got the kelp noodles since last week i got them okay but i haven't prepared them

00:12:13.060 yet so you know i was doing the kelp noodles and trying to sort of recreate the air one a little

00:12:17.900 bit right yeah scallion tamari yeah then i go you know i'll try the miracle noodles too i haven't

00:12:23.540 tried them in a while. You know, I know they're a little like chewier. I'm like, that'd be kind

00:12:29.140 of nice. I thought I was gonna have to go to the hospital. Because of stomach pain?

00:12:36.600 Because of cognac. Okay. So cognac, miracle noodles, right? And it's just hubris, right?

00:12:44.160 I missed my workout the next morning. Okay. Because I was up till 4am and I opted for sleep

00:12:51.460 in favor of an early workout writing the can or what do you mean no so walk me through it you wake

00:12:58.960 up in the night okay so so first of all i eat the whole package of the large package okay and

00:13:05.700 i'm sorry i i don't know what to say yeah well eat the whole package you have to because it's

00:13:09.920 just air you know it's 15 calories is why it's a miracle now you know it's like so is i'm trying

00:13:17.540 something that takes up space that's not food right like if you whipped a piece of if you ground

00:13:22.760 a piece of paper up whipped it into a frenzy and froze that I don't know and ate that

00:13:30.300 also low-cal right so anyway it's indigestible right it's like an indigestible fiber that's

00:13:36.340 why it's a supplement and all this kind of stuff okay it's added to things so like

00:13:39.440 and I've seen this in the past and I'm like it doesn't apply to me I saw this article that was

00:13:43.320 like, woman—here, I'll pull it up. You know it's going to be good when it starts like that. 0.95

00:13:49.200 Woman dies from miracle noodle? 1.00

00:13:50.860 Woman's stomach swelled to five times its normal size. 1.00

00:13:54.620 No. 0.68

00:13:55.300 And she was left vomiting constantly for 10 days after eating noodles, okay?

00:14:00.480 Oh, no.

00:14:01.460 So she ate a packet of cognac noodles, okay? Nothing else.

00:14:05.020 Oh.

00:14:06.440 So apparently the cognac noodles are banned in certain countries.

00:14:10.840 Stop. Stop.

00:14:12.180 Because, and this is where it's like the miracle, the hubris, okay, the belief that, so it's this big package of slippery noodles and the particular joy I get out of them is to eat them in like a childlike way, like slipperly gobbling them up, kind of like, okay, swallowing them.

00:14:38.020 It's, the whole point is the quantity, right?

00:14:40.460 That's what they've offered.

00:14:41.900 Yeah.

00:14:42.180 So I experienced this sort of upper, upper, upper pain where I become, or just, I become

00:14:48.620 convinced it's, it's lodged in the stomach.

00:14:51.440 Okay.

00:14:51.640 Now, so then when I start reading about, and oh, and then, and then, and then I do a little

00:14:56.680 more Googling, you know, you know, people are like, um, ungodly pain, you know, um,

00:15:02.800 like people like writing on Amazon, like this nearly killed me, whatever.

00:15:06.340 Okay.

00:15:06.980 Okay.

00:15:07.220 Because it can form a tangle, a mass in the stomach of these noodles that like, so this

00:15:13.680 can happen.

00:15:14.080 Have you heard about persimmons?

00:15:15.980 No.

00:15:17.040 Oh.

00:15:17.480 Well, here we go.

00:15:19.060 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:15:19.760 Jacqueline, you're triggering a memory of me eating something persimmon and having a horrible

00:15:24.920 stomach ache and being like, well, it can't be persimmons.

00:15:27.640 No.

00:15:28.520 Wait, what?

00:15:29.200 Tell me.

00:15:30.560 There's these things called like, it's called like a bezoar or something.

00:15:33.820 Okay.

00:15:34.000 Okay.

00:15:34.060 and it's when something indigestible kind of stays in the actual stomach stomach right

00:15:42.760 oh and and it's like whatever persimmons can cause it like celery whatever and and sometimes

00:15:51.600 they have to be surgically removed no or are you ready for this what could be worse than surgically

00:15:56.240 removed i know so then so then i'm reading and i end up on this like national you know nh whatever

00:16:03.100 and it's about like the treatment a successful non-surgical treatment diet coke

00:16:11.200 okay to eject it to dissolve it so so I become convinced I'm sort of like um like having these

00:16:20.980 like hiccups like a cartoon character okay and I'm like it would happen to me and this woman

00:16:25.480 in my mind okay because other people I don't know they get the thing that maybe they have a portion

00:16:30.240 of the noodles. They eat it at some normal pace. I don't know. I'm like, I'm like, this is the kind

00:16:35.440 of like the hubris, the mirror, like that I would just be like, eat the whole package, eat it fast

00:16:41.140 and then have this happen. So I become lightly convinced and I know it's slightly hypochondriac,

00:16:46.420 but I'm like, okay. And I'm not hypochondriac, but I was having fucking symptoms and it was up. 0.97

00:16:52.460 I'm not talking about bloat. I'm not talking about anything. And so I'm like, it's there. 0.98

00:16:56.840 it's sitting there of course it's sitting there you know and I send Chris out for Diet Coke

00:17:02.180 yeah I was like I'm reading about this thing it's like it's like I do this like fast research and

00:17:08.000 then I know all these things and it's like there's no like way to explain I really know what you look

00:17:12.520 like when you're in when you're in pain I can like see your face exactly it's hysterical really

00:17:17.320 yeah but keep going so I'm like I'm like I send him out for the for the Diet Coke and I'm like

00:17:22.300 Because I read that, you know, I forget what the amount of Diet Coke, but it wasn't like insane.

00:17:28.540 They were like, it could be given to children like through the nasal passage in a tube, like straight down to the stomach.

00:17:34.240 But it was like, but drinking it, like we'll get it done.

00:17:37.080 And they were like, you know, within 12 hours, like completely dissolved.

00:17:40.840 Because you know that you can also declog and descale your toilet.

00:17:46.020 Diet.

00:17:47.060 Diet, they say.

00:17:48.680 There's something, cellulase or something.

00:17:50.560 I don't know.

00:17:50.840 So, do you want anything else?

00:17:52.880 And then my classic, when anything with the stomach, if I have a nut allergy reaction or anything, I want saltines.

00:17:59.480 So, I'm drinking Diet Coke like mother's milk, knowing that it's a medical treatment.

00:18:05.960 Was it yummy?

00:18:06.720 For what I'm convinced.

00:18:08.860 It was pretty tasty, you know, knowing.

00:18:11.000 And I haven't had Diet Coke in a really long time because I really just made the mental connection that it's not good.

00:18:17.960 Yeah, yeah.

00:18:18.480 And so it was pretty wild to crack open a couple of cold cans.

00:18:23.000 Makes me feel like a real American.

00:18:24.640 Watching television, nibbling, watching movies, nibbling saltines in the night.

00:18:29.460 Yeah, that's fun.

00:18:30.300 And just feeling like saltines are healing me, you know?

00:18:33.080 Mm-hmm.

00:18:34.300 It was heavenly.

00:18:35.480 So, and then I started to feel better.

00:18:37.700 And I also started to feel like I knew that if this horrible thing was happening,

00:18:43.640 I had at least begun treatment myself at home.

00:18:47.000 like if like i woke up the next morning this was like a real problem right well i started the diet

00:18:51.180 coke treatment you know so it just calmed down and then i was fine amazing i can't why i want to be

00:18:56.580 i want to be clear this is the miracle noodle that comes in the bag that you open the top

00:18:59.780 well miracle noodle any cognac you just gotta look for cognac okay k-o-n-j

00:19:05.780 i literally have to go look at my miracle noodles

00:19:07.620 she's left

00:19:11.560 oh my god they're miracle because my partner and i have been

00:19:22.020 mainlining these yeah yeah water organic cognac flower citric acid okay so so mainlining these

00:19:33.080 now here's my question you probably split that packet right yeah i guess so i think two for two

00:19:39.200 people. I mean, depending on hunger levels, because we do an unbelievable tamari seared tofu

00:19:44.340 with it. So we do like a tofu stir fry with it. Well, I just feel like there's factors. Like,

00:19:51.200 let's just say it's like you're dehydrated or something, right? Like I eat that on an empty

00:19:55.060 stomach with nothing. I don't know, like lying on like half on my back. Like, like I'm like a

00:19:59.020 straight line and then my neck is curved and I just like eat it and it just sits there. I don't,

00:20:03.800 I don't know.

00:20:07.060 So back to kelp for me.

00:20:09.060 Although, although.

00:20:11.180 Say it.

00:20:12.080 I'm scared because they were like, iodine.

00:20:14.680 You can't have it every day.

00:20:15.780 I just want something I can have every day.

00:20:17.960 I know you always do.

00:20:19.540 Wait, I have a question.

00:20:20.940 I actually don't have a question.

00:20:21.840 I just want to talk about dinner.

00:20:23.160 Are you so excited?

00:20:23.880 That's fine.

00:20:24.440 And I want to talk more about our food water bottle

00:20:26.120 because I'm actually pretty excited about it too.

00:20:27.500 Okay.

00:20:28.180 Okay.

00:20:28.440 First of all,

00:20:30.280 jar is tonight.

00:20:31.000 We're going to dinner tonight.

00:20:32.740 You and I haven't had dinner together since the poop tour.

00:20:34.980 Shocking.

00:20:35.400 Oh my God.

00:20:36.320 Leachutini.

00:20:37.100 Yeah.

00:20:37.900 You know what I would appreciate coming from you?

00:20:40.480 Eat a little something before you arrive so that we can launch into a cocktail together.

00:20:46.020 Ooh, that's a really good idea.

00:20:48.080 Because I'm always scared to drink on the empty stomach due to my migraines and such.

00:20:51.820 Yeah.

00:20:52.080 So you're always having to wait.

00:20:53.620 If you had a little something, I mean, does that sound insane to you?

00:20:57.740 Here's why I don't want to do it.

00:20:59.440 Yeah.

00:20:59.680 Because I'm so excited to be hungry for a jar.

00:21:01.820 I know, but...

00:21:03.140 What would I have?

00:21:03.620 A couple of crackers?

00:21:05.080 I don't know.

00:21:05.540 Is that enough?

00:21:06.800 See, that's the thing.

00:21:07.480 I don't want to pre-eat.

00:21:09.320 By the way, here's another class act jar thing.

00:21:11.980 Here's another class act jar thing.

00:21:14.300 Yes.

00:21:14.760 They don't give you the food menu right away.

00:21:17.440 They give you the drink menu.

00:21:19.180 I'm sorry.

00:21:19.940 This is not an exaggeration.

00:21:21.240 You kind of have to ask for the food menu.

00:21:23.080 It's amazing.

00:21:24.160 Wait.

00:21:24.580 They don't force it on you.

00:21:26.300 Wow.

00:21:26.980 Am I making this up?

00:21:27.960 I really don't think so.

00:21:29.080 No, I'm thinking about it.

00:21:30.480 I really think you get there.

00:21:31.540 you sit down like oh would you like a drink

00:21:32.920 and they bring you a cocktail menu

00:21:35.100 and then they bring you the food menu

00:21:37.980 are you going to go steak

00:21:39.320 maybe I'm trying to think

00:21:41.920 what I had there

00:21:43.020 sorry 1.00

00:21:43.760 and she's cracking a celsius

00:21:47.080 you know what else I'm drinking a miso packet soup

00:21:50.060 plus medicinal bone broth

00:21:52.260 plus water

00:21:53.360 stretch out the

00:21:55.140 medicinal air one broth

00:21:57.120 another dream oh it wasn't a dream

00:21:58.980 I purchased air one broth

00:22:01.540 And spilled it on my shirt and it was turmeric and it was staining turmeric.

00:22:06.660 Yeah.

00:22:07.120 Well, I don't, I can't focus too much on it.

00:22:09.360 I sent you another picture of a dropped item, an entire jar, a large jar of Mighty Greens soup.

00:22:17.480 It just slipped out of your hand?

00:22:19.000 No.

00:22:19.680 It was precariously placed on the wire shelving of my fridge.

00:22:24.180 Things are getting a little tight in there and I open it up and down it goes.

00:22:28.080 Can you believe?

00:22:28.600 I didn't scream

00:22:31.660 I didn't have the reaction

00:22:34.400 That I had two days before

00:22:35.820 When merely a coat slipped off

00:22:37.600 You know

00:22:39.020 It's that rage

00:22:40.540 It's that specific thing

00:22:41.740 When things fall

00:22:43.620 I just cleaned it up

00:22:45.420 Oh so I'm reading Atomic Habits

00:22:47.980 I've brought it up before

00:22:50.880 But something has taken this time

00:22:53.080 And I've been reading it in bed

00:22:54.920 Well here we go with the sponsor again

00:22:57.280 My hatch machine

00:22:58.500 pressing the button and the sound coming out every night. Okay. So anyway, I'm reading Atomic

00:23:05.540 Habits. I like to read about self-improvement while falling asleep. Okay. Because it's a promise

00:23:12.200 of a future. I don't know. And I feel like it's sinking in. So I read Atomic Habits. It's tiny

00:23:16.300 little things, big results, whatever. One example given, that's just someone's tiny habit that has

00:23:23.740 a huge effect I have been doing it okay on even just the smallest level for the last two days my

00:23:29.460 life is literally changed okay so describes this one guy who quote resets the room when he leaves

00:23:38.440 it okay what now now this is the very opposite of dropping something and not picking it up okay

00:23:46.500 now you know how we drop something and go we'll get it later okay like almost like I didn't plan

00:23:51.620 for that to fall so I'm not picking it up right now yeah okay there's no time there's no time

00:23:56.200 right it's like this belief in like I don't know like extreme productivity to the point of absurdity

00:24:01.640 so like I leave everything in a state of sort of process because the belief is that I don't want

00:24:09.260 to put everything away in order to have to take it all out again okay but then you're constantly

00:24:14.000 returning to mid-project mid-process stuff so it's like about to leave the room you just

00:24:21.220 look and you go like what did I just do here so like collecting a mug

00:24:24.620 bring it down okay okay it's it's so small and I know it's how a lot of people already live their

00:24:31.440 lives I can hear I can feel it okay it's just coffee mug just work with reset reset the room

00:24:39.100 okay I glance down every time you leave a room you reset it yeah okay and here's and of course

00:24:44.540 it adds up because you know it's not like you're fully cleaning the room once it's clean it's

00:24:50.160 actually not that hard to keep it clean if you just do a little reset of the room reset the room 0.53

00:24:57.040 and it's usually like you've only fucked up the room like a little like it would just be like 0.63

00:25:03.460 you glance back and you're like oh right like I opened that book it's a half done like I started 0.95

00:25:08.240 drinking that water oh look my underwear is on the floor like because I just took it off

00:25:11.420 it's already huge okay it's literally already huge I mean I believe it I believe it I feel

00:25:17.320 again one day of organized life unbelievable

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00:29:37.500 Oh, I was watching like some real, I was fed by Instagram some just classic, you know, somatic exercise.

00:29:47.020 Just like home remedy, like just whatever, shaking.

00:29:51.340 And it was like moving the bones.

00:29:52.920 Oh, I bought a rebounder.

00:29:53.920 I bought the little trampoline.

00:29:55.480 You know this.

00:29:56.400 I bought a baby trampoline and then gave it to my friend.

00:29:59.020 Okay.

00:29:59.360 I bought two by accident.

00:30:03.320 Really?

00:30:04.040 And it's been like my, it's been my backpack holder for some time.

00:30:07.880 It's where I lay the old backpack when I come in the house.

00:30:10.200 The different prongs?

00:30:11.980 Wait, what prongs?

00:30:13.580 I was picturing like the trampoline.

00:30:14.880 If you turned it on its side, the little legs would hang something on there.

00:30:19.140 Yeah, those are.

00:30:20.180 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:30:21.220 No, that's part of it.

00:30:22.220 That's sometimes, but often not.

00:30:23.760 often it's just laying there i'm gonna bring up the jar menu while we chat okay great so we could

00:30:30.080 even chat about it so i haven't been there a while but when i was there i'm pretty sure i got um

00:30:35.680 oysters whoa i mean everything is perfect there is the truth you can't ever eat oysters

00:30:41.240 essentially never i have to have had like one and a half martini to be able to down an oyster

00:30:47.320 are you serious my eyes and i'd cross my eyes and do it for the fun of it but really i just

00:30:52.860 use them as vessels for vinegar. I don't enjoy it. That's okay. But I mean, I don't mind it as

00:30:57.540 a vessel for vinegar. My friend, you know, had an oyster at a really fancy restaurant and

00:31:01.780 projectile puked on her wedding day and was vomiting in the Four Seasons lobby projectile 1.00

00:31:06.540 across the business center. That's healthy. You know, like the whole like forest fires are 1.00

00:31:12.040 natural and like turns nitrogen over in the soil or whatever. It's like, I'm like, is a bad oyster

00:31:19.100 adaptive

00:31:19.820 certain number of bad oysters in a bunch

00:31:22.800 in order to clear things out

00:31:25.020 every once in a while

00:31:25.740 fresh restart

00:31:26.940 but I like the sea taste

00:31:30.560 I like the sea taste

00:31:31.880 whoa the schnitzel

00:31:33.480 schnitzel is just pounded chicken

00:31:35.860 I always get the filet

00:31:37.000 this menu I think isn't

00:31:40.460 because they obviously have major seasonal items

00:31:43.060 cream spinach

00:31:45.020 oh well there's the tomato salad

00:31:47.480 right

00:31:49.140 What do you think it's going to be like to me?

00:31:50.580 The tomatoes won't be there.

00:31:51.940 What?

00:31:52.100 What are we wearing?

00:31:53.860 Ooh.

00:31:54.700 It reminds me, I'd have to beg for shoes.

00:31:56.840 Okay, so Marion Park.

00:31:58.400 Marion Park sent some shoes.

00:32:00.220 Love you.

00:32:00.600 You were able to choose.

00:32:01.900 So first of all, the Marion Park, it's very, very chic, high quality shoes.

00:32:06.880 Let's just say it.

00:32:07.620 Very well made.

00:32:08.320 Now, there's a point of difference.

00:32:09.880 They're deluxe.

00:32:10.600 The soles are special because they protect the foot.

00:32:16.020 They're easier for long wear.

00:32:17.820 Yeah, yeah.

00:32:18.180 their long wear made. So anyway, and she's been incredibly generous. Very generous.

00:32:25.240 My Chelsea boots are from her. I felt like I was in a Marion Park ad because I was wearing

00:32:29.940 Marion Park shoes hosting the gala for reproductive rights. Oh yeah. And I was like,

00:32:35.320 who says you can't fight for reproductive rights and look chic? It was ridiculous. 0.96

00:32:42.200 Oh my God. But it worked. The shoes work. They're fabulous. 0.96

00:32:47.760 So I'm paralyzed by choice.

00:32:51.380 Well, don't worry, because a lot of them are sold out.

00:32:54.520 You may not have the choice you thought, doll.

00:32:56.880 I don't know.

00:32:57.660 I sorted by size.

00:33:00.000 Oh, you did?

00:33:00.620 Oh, so it's coming up.

00:33:01.640 And the main thing that I'm struggling with is...

00:33:05.000 Send them to me and I'll tell you which to get.

00:33:06.620 Who do I want to be versus who I am?

00:33:10.200 Exactly.

00:33:10.700 Okay?

00:33:11.240 Because I don't yet think I have shoes even for who I am.

00:33:15.120 like I want to get shoes

00:33:17.120 for who I want to be

00:33:18.960 absolutely right

00:33:20.960 but then I've

00:33:22.900 nothing to wear to dinner

00:33:24.180 because you know what I'm saying

00:33:26.760 because I got the like metallic

00:33:29.080 like you know

00:33:31.160 collection

00:33:32.140 booties like and then

00:33:34.940 I'm not going to wear

00:33:36.320 at the cobbler

00:33:37.700 Manolo's I want to wear to dinner are at the cobbler

00:33:41.320 really?

00:33:42.420 Yeah.

00:33:42.840 I'm getting three shows.

00:33:43.540 Did you pay full price for your Manolos?

00:33:46.120 No, I never have.

00:33:47.380 How?

00:33:48.380 eBay.

00:33:50.260 Real.

00:33:50.740 Oh, really?

00:33:51.300 Real.

00:33:52.160 Yes.

00:33:52.880 Now, so this is a question.

00:33:54.780 This is kind of interesting.

00:33:55.960 Sometimes I'll have a moment where I can get pumped about like, I'm like, ooh, look at these.

00:34:01.660 Like some designer shoe being available in like a vintage store. 0.93

00:34:06.520 And I'm like, holy shit, they're Prada or something, right? 0.97

00:34:09.120 Yeah. And then I can have a moment where I'm just like, you know, some bitch dropped off her box of shoes. And here I am going to shell out drooling. Still real money. Yeah. Like for her sort of beat up, like her beat up souls. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I know. So I can't decide if that is joyful or not. 1.00

00:34:33.360 I've gotten, on the Manolo front, I've gotten, like, essentially brand new.

00:34:39.520 I've gotten very lucky with some Manolos, and they're hardly worn and not even close to half the price of what they would be.

00:34:47.900 Where you can see the-

00:34:48.660 It's even half price of a brand new Manolo. 1.00

00:34:50.440 $600 fucking dollars. 0.99

00:34:51.640 They're like $1,000 shoes. 1.00

00:34:52.960 Right.

00:34:53.920 Wait, what?

00:34:55.140 No, you're saying, wait, wait, wait.

00:34:56.760 You're saying they're half price, or you're saying they're better than half price?

00:34:59.020 They're not even close to half price.

00:35:01.220 I'm paying less than half price.

00:35:03.360 for a good chew.

00:35:04.760 Larry.

00:35:06.340 Yeah.

00:35:10.200 The back half of this episode is

00:35:12.100 it's a back half of the episode. 1.00

00:35:14.240 Big tits on the back. 1.00

00:35:15.540 Yeah. 1.00

00:35:16.340 Okay.

00:35:16.960 So I was actually thinking about this.

00:35:20.260 I'm an Academy Award attendee

00:35:22.120 instead of nominee.

00:35:23.940 Academy Award.

00:35:24.820 I put that in the bio.

00:35:25.880 Academy Award attendee.

00:35:27.120 Kate Berlin.

00:35:27.560 Yeah.

00:35:28.600 Yeah.

00:35:29.380 Now in your mind,

00:35:30.440 was it the Academy Awards

00:35:31.640 or was it the Oscars?

00:35:33.600 What were you at in your mind?

00:35:35.480 It was at, it was the Oscars.

00:35:37.420 Yeah, yeah, it's the Oscars.

00:35:39.000 Go on, so.

00:35:40.640 Okay, so I was allowed to attend the Oscars

00:35:43.660 due to my childhood best friend,

00:35:45.420 Sammy Birch being nominated first,

00:35:47.140 writing May, December.

00:35:48.400 I repeat, she wrote May, December. 0.99

00:35:49.960 Coolest shit ever. 0.99

00:35:50.840 She wrote it, 1.00

00:35:51.940 and she wouldn't have trouble with me saying this

00:35:53.280 because it's deeply inspiring.

00:35:54.840 She wrote it in her actual closet during COVID.

00:35:59.160 She didn't have an office.

00:35:59.880 she had 1.00

00:36:00.400 she converted

00:36:01.940 she like wallpapered

00:36:03.180 it's beautiful and poetic

00:36:03.940 she got nice wallpaper

00:36:05.180 for her closet

00:36:06.040 like one of those

00:36:07.100 little desks

00:36:07.560 that you pull down

00:36:08.140 from the wall

00:36:08.680 like not even

00:36:09.260 like a dinner

00:36:10.520 like a TV dinner tray

00:36:12.240 yes

00:36:13.200 she wrote this

00:36:14.520 as a sample

00:36:15.360 and she was nominated

00:36:17.580 for an Oscar

00:36:18.320 okay

00:36:18.800 and she's brilliant

00:36:19.840 and she's written

00:36:20.480 many brilliant screenplays

00:36:22.080 and she's been writing

00:36:22.760 since she was 0.99

00:36:23.240 fucking 15 years old 0.99

00:36:24.280 but the point is 1.00

00:36:24.940 Sammy Birch

00:36:25.560 but the point is

00:36:26.900 got to go

00:36:28.020 and by the way

00:36:29.140 screaming because I thought okay I'm gonna go I took John of course um because we've been watching

00:36:34.180 the you know the Oscars for 10 years together and I I thought we're gonna be way up oh my god

00:36:38.880 you know what I forgot so sorry just because you know what and I haven't done it this year wait

00:36:43.620 sorry what okay no I got excited because remember because what I've been doing for 10 years is

00:36:49.880 commenting yearly on the in memoriam okay and it's like Jacqueline guess what I was gonna tell you

00:36:57.580 Jacqueline

00:36:58.400 if you say

00:36:59.080 they tell you not to applaud

00:37:00.880 in the room

00:37:01.600 I mean to tell you this

00:37:03.240 right so

00:37:04.040 so

00:37:04.700 because remember

00:37:05.200 one year I wrote

00:37:05.980 they finally did it

00:37:06.940 like I used to tweet

00:37:08.800 these things

00:37:09.280 like because Jacqueline

00:37:10.020 always had a funny thing 1.00

00:37:11.080 basically I think it's disgusting

00:37:12.380 I think it's

00:37:14.460 astonishing

00:37:15.160 and disgusting 0.98

00:37:15.480 people literally 0.95

00:37:16.220 like during a memorial

00:37:17.180 see the person they know

00:37:18.780 or like or care about

00:37:19.840 and

00:37:20.000 woo

00:37:20.380 okay

00:37:21.320 or okay

00:37:21.920 I guess they don't do that

00:37:22.800 I guess like

00:37:23.460 no maybe a little cheers

00:37:25.400 but whatever

00:37:25.740 applause

00:37:26.160 applause

00:37:26.460 applause

00:37:26.900 No, you know what it is? It's just escalation of applause, quiet, louder applause.

00:37:31.000 Okay, then drop their hands to their lap when it's someone they don't know.

00:37:35.800 Yeah, yeah.

00:37:37.260 So I found like the unevenness absolutely vile and felt like they need to cut the mics to the room.

00:37:42.940 They need to blast whatever the sound.

00:37:47.120 So when do they tell you?

00:37:48.500 So they go before the in memoriam, in memoriam, memoriam.

00:37:53.240 It's impossible to say. In memoriam.

00:37:55.800 okay whatever the memory portion they say in the room please withhold your applause till the end 0.98

00:38:04.860 yeah of the segment like graduation why the fuck by the way they have an orchid live orchestra 0.99

00:38:09.520 playing gorgeous why the fuck do they have modern lyrical dance the most devastating form of 0.96

00:38:16.260 expression why do they have that sorry it's so rude again i'm pmsing okay you're a lyrical dancer 0.98

00:38:22.760 You're going to listen to the boog.

00:38:23.700 Well, also, I mean, lyrical dancing is like phenomenal. 0.91

00:38:27.680 Like literally, like it's actually like one of the only expressions left.

00:38:32.360 Like I literally love it.

00:38:34.160 Can't get enough.

00:38:34.680 If you ever watch Saving Dance, like you are praying for lyrical numbers.

00:38:39.860 Okay.

00:38:40.080 Okay.

00:38:40.320 Great.

00:38:40.780 Anyway, but go on.

00:38:41.900 But I still was like the lyrical dancing is weird.

00:38:43.900 Like just have the music.

00:38:44.820 But there were lyrical dancers during the. 0.98

00:38:47.140 Yes. 0.99

00:38:47.680 Yes.

00:38:48.240 Because I was running around trying to get ready.

00:38:51.280 Did you see me and John during the broadcast because we were on the broadcast?

00:38:55.840 Because?

00:38:56.340 The point is, I thought we'd have nosebleed.

00:38:57.680 We had unbelievable seats, Jacqueline.

00:38:58.960 I thought we'd be way in the back, way in the back, up high.

00:39:01.560 We had shocking seats.

00:39:03.320 I could not believe it.

00:39:04.140 We were seated in front of nominees.

00:39:06.580 Do you know what I'm saying?

00:39:07.140 It was crazy.

00:39:08.120 We had a beautiful view.

00:39:10.060 I mean, it was startling.

00:39:12.160 And it was so fun to be down there because it's my, you know, sports.

00:39:15.380 I can't believe you were seated in front of nominees.

00:39:16.540 It's the only sporting event.

00:39:17.820 I know.

00:39:18.040 That's a shock.

00:39:18.480 I mean, not actors, of course, but.

00:39:21.280 Right, right.

00:39:23.080 But it really was fun.

00:39:25.680 Okay.

00:39:35.640 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield from The Girlfriends,

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00:43:41.920 Jacqueline texts me because there's some different parties going on, whatever.

00:43:45.440 Jacqueline's like, is it really black tie or something?

00:43:48.560 And I was like, I mean, yeah, like the parties are formal.

00:43:53.200 And you were like...

00:43:53.740 I didn't, I don't believe I texted, is it really black tie?

00:43:56.060 Because here's what just happened.

00:43:57.540 I just saw on the invite or whatever on the thing.

00:44:00.020 at linker and looked in the emails like oh let me look at this oh black tie and i was like oh

00:44:04.200 how how did i miss this yeah so you were like is a black tie two hours from a party and it's black

00:44:11.760 tie i get to this party there's jacqueline looking absolutely beautiful radiant next to chris who's

00:44:19.040 in a tux and i go over go look at you two you guys looked great you informed me that you secured

00:44:25.160 the outfits two hours prior can you believe it no it was it was a triumph for me of of something

00:44:31.960 i believe in deeply which is like no we can do this there is a way yeah yeah like there's a part

00:44:38.720 of me that's like and particularly with speed because with with boys it's like i mean needing

00:44:44.260 the the black tie the tux it's why it's easier and also harder right so i go so first i get in 0.63

00:44:52.160 my head i always think that like anything is it's uncouth to turn a woman a woman away oh right the 0.78

00:44:57.980 fear right like a woman so imagine this a woman's all dressed up she walks up to the party go it's 0.98

00:45:04.080 not black tie doll try next year you're coming here in a house dress or slob they're not going 0.92

00:45:09.140 to do that but a guy's dress remember as good as it gets yeah exactly from as good as it gets thank 0.97

00:45:13.600 you but a guy walks up without a tie get the fuck out of here and he deserves it in my book

00:45:19.920 so yeah keep going well it led to this whole conversation because we were remembering way 0.96

00:45:25.060 back when when like tom cruise was like the first to wear like a tie instead of a bow tie or something

00:45:31.100 at the black tie oscars it was like a whole like a moment anyway ages ago so i'm like we're gonna

00:45:37.660 hit the vintage stores on the bray okay we're gonna like we're gonna run in we're gonna find

00:45:41.960 and i'm just picturing there's gonna be some like vintage tux that will be like a little off but

00:45:46.900 technically a tux they can't turn her away yeah totally get that in my head you know and i'm like

00:45:53.320 and i'll find like a gown you know and then it's a quick googling of like what constitutes black 0.99

00:45:58.860 tie the whole thing i'm like we can do this and so i go there's the growth let's not fuck around 0.50

00:46:06.140 okay i go we're calling banana republic i love this i love this okay dial up banana republic 0.92

00:46:13.300 like i go hi i go do you have off the rack tuxes by the way i just want to stop you i'm having i'm

00:46:20.520 in heaven right now keep going because it's like this kind of story is what i love this it sort of

00:46:26.280 like feels like there's no way intersection of commerce a dream chris is sitting there i do it

00:46:31.100 on speaker okay okay i go chris go look at your make be sure you know your sizes get your sizes

00:46:35.700 ready okay okay i'm efficient as hell i go you know whatever okay yes sorry yes i go do you have

00:46:44.540 the thing do you have in this size and this size hold on hold please okay goes over love that yes 0.54

00:46:48.820 we do i'll set it aside for you i go and can you set aside a shirt and a tie and whatever the hell

00:46:53.620 else you need for this okay and and it's like chris go you know and he doesn't have a tux and

00:47:00.480 it's like now he's got a tux i'm sorry i stand by banana republic okay by the way he was in a he

00:47:06.980 looked great it was like a beautiful like do you know what i'm saying yeah i mean it was like and

00:47:10.180 then we talked and you didn't have time to tailor it and you wouldn't have known no so and he's still

00:47:14.700 gonna get like things tailored like yeah you know that's the dream i mean i i this is another thing

00:47:19.420 about who i want to be like a woman who has all tailored my clothes tailored so i send him off i

00:47:24.120 go, go, go get your tux. Okay. I run off to La Brea. It's all tailoring. Exactly. Okay. To look

00:47:32.720 good, to look truly good. It's tailoring. Right. It's all because that's what no one has. Right.

00:47:40.020 Like, I mean, like that's the difference. I know. I don't know. Like I like these rules. Like it's

00:47:45.400 very sad. It's all tailoring. Like that satisfies me. That sort of like sureness. So I want it to

00:47:50.680 be true and I have a principle to live by it is true so I run off I end up at this place the way

00:47:56.380 the way the way we wore which is an iconic vintage Los Angeles clothing store okay and I go

00:48:02.540 now I'm usually a classic don't want help girl leave me alone to my interior how fun help me

00:48:10.440 help me help me have to be the Oscars in two hours but I just said I decided I go and to be

00:48:17.100 clear I'm not going to the Oscars I'm just going to an after party but go and start looking around

00:48:22.620 first of all I call on the way I go do you rent do you rent clothes for a night you know I know

00:48:28.600 the answer is no but I'm like whatever and then I go like well see you anyway you know it's almost

00:48:32.060 like it's like so go in start gathering a few things and finally I just and I'm like hi you

00:48:41.660 know like I just went for it and was like so yeah totally she's fun you know I'm like this is Los

00:48:46.920 Angeles. We're in a vintage store. Isn't this what they live for? Okay. I'm going to an Oscars

00:48:51.140 after party. It's the way we wore. It's vintage stores. Okay. And I go, and so I go, I'm going

00:48:56.440 to this party. Right. And meanwhile, like the Oscars are unfolding right now as we speak.

00:49:01.540 I'm going to this party. I go, and I, it's black tie. I didn't realize. And I'm pretty sure I

00:49:06.360 pulled off the rack a dress. I got like eight dresses in there. Okay. And one of the ones that

00:49:11.100 I had pulled off the rack downstairs where, where stuff was like half off or something,

00:49:16.380 because the upstairs is where it gets really fancy.

00:49:18.380 Downstairs, less so.

00:49:20.180 Go in.

00:49:20.820 First thing I put on, zip it right up.

00:49:24.160 And I go, and you know when you're like in the dressing room

00:49:26.020 and you're like, is this incredible?

00:49:28.100 Oh, wow.

00:49:29.100 Like, you're like, not sure.

00:49:30.780 You're like, I mean, certainly for trying to find a quick black tie gown.

00:49:35.040 So then I step out.

00:49:36.300 I go downstairs with this expression like, I'm sorry.

00:49:39.380 Is this unreal?

00:49:40.500 You know?

00:49:41.060 Hello, first try.

00:49:42.260 Yeah.

00:49:42.560 And then it's like, you're not going to do,

00:49:43.860 well, you're not going to do better than that.

00:49:44.860 You know, like it's done.

00:49:45.880 Oh, I love that.

00:49:47.160 It's done, and it was $200.

00:49:49.540 And it was affordable.

00:49:50.860 Yeah.

00:49:51.200 $100.

00:49:52.320 No, $200, but still.

00:49:54.940 $200 is $50 in that store.

00:49:57.560 That's an expensive store.

00:49:59.180 And we're looking at $1,000 dresses in that store.

00:50:01.900 And then I throw it on, grab my Einstein's Paul Monroe bag.

00:50:07.100 Post the pic.

00:50:07.720 I don't really have great pics, although they were doing a step and repeat.

00:50:13.820 I stepped up, I got confused, did prom, you know, like, yeah, you know, prom is not how you do it.

00:50:20.060 Like I did like prom pose kind of.

00:50:23.340 Which is what?

00:50:24.200 It's like Chris Slightly behind me, us both facing the same way.

00:50:28.180 It's not Hollywood.

00:50:29.920 Oh, yeah.

00:50:30.540 It's kind of like, and I'm like, where are those photos?

00:50:34.000 They're not on the cover of the LA Times, I'll tell you that much.

00:50:38.020 Have you checked Getty Images?

00:50:39.460 No.

00:50:40.720 Oh, sweetheart.

00:50:41.880 I'm scared.

00:50:43.040 I'm going to check for you right now.

00:50:45.020 Well, I'll tell you why.

00:50:46.280 They didn't ask for my name.

00:50:48.340 They don't need to, sweetheart.

00:50:50.220 I think they do.

00:50:51.060 They don't need to.

00:50:51.920 There you are.

00:50:52.760 Oh, wait, no, that's not you.

00:50:55.560 I do see you and Chris at the opening of Kate.

00:50:58.400 Oh, my God.

00:50:59.320 Yeah.

00:51:01.100 Nothing?

00:51:02.720 I'm not seeing from that night.

00:51:04.180 Yeah, I know.

00:51:07.300 But keep going.

00:51:08.620 No, it's interesting coming to these events

00:51:11.180 and sort of tapping the photographer.

00:51:12.900 It was like being like, love you to get me.

00:51:16.160 By the way, we tapped a roaming photog in that party to get us.

00:51:19.540 Yeah. And where are we?

00:51:20.300 Where are those photos? Lost to history.

00:51:22.780 I know. I'm thinking of reaching out.

00:51:24.700 No respect.

00:51:25.920 I mean, I'll admit it.

00:51:27.900 I love the kind of clawing crassness of it all.

00:51:32.840 Kind of love like running for a dress.

00:51:34.820 What am I going to do?

00:51:36.260 Like, I got to make an impression.

00:51:38.080 It's Hollywood.

00:51:38.760 That's fun. That's fun.

00:51:40.100 That's fun.

00:51:40.600 I need a dress tonight. 0.70

00:51:42.420 Well, that's your style for sure.

00:51:43.920 Is what?

00:51:44.560 You famously get things the day of.

00:51:46.980 Oh, yeah.

00:51:47.640 Haven't you done for like late night shows and stuff?

00:51:49.520 Always.

00:51:50.040 Everything.

00:51:50.360 You're like, I'm on a tonight show tonight.

00:51:52.960 Well, yeah, that can go either way.

00:51:55.200 What's going on over there?

00:51:56.760 Hearing a lot of face sounds.

00:51:58.580 Massaging the face. 0.79

00:52:00.200 I got to get into Beauty Shaman. 1.00

00:52:01.380 I got to pay for Beauty Shaman's like three week fucking. 1.00

00:52:04.860 Does she have a thing? 1.00

00:52:05.800 Whatever the fuck. 1.00

00:52:07.040 Yeah, I think she has like a thing where you pay. 1.00

00:52:07.820 That would require us doing it to make that a habit. 1.00

00:52:11.700 We'd have to, I don't know, that would have to be a habit stacking.

00:52:15.600 It has to be stacked with something like that you do every day that doesn't use the hands.

00:52:22.640 You know what I'm saying?

00:52:23.420 I mean, what you'd probably do is you add it to your face washing experience.

00:52:27.840 Face washing.

00:52:28.640 Oh, yeah.

00:52:29.140 In the shower.

00:52:29.780 TV.

00:52:30.380 Well, TV.

00:52:31.180 But that's when I leave.

00:52:32.460 Guess I'll have to add it.

00:52:33.900 I was watching Bachelor.

00:52:35.440 I'm back on Bachelor, as we know.

00:52:36.960 watching Bachelor last night

00:52:38.680 as my partner lifted weights.

00:52:40.700 We watched together.

00:52:41.700 Oh my gosh.

00:52:42.900 Now were you just in repose?

00:52:45.040 Yeah, it was heaven.

00:52:46.040 Lying in repose?

00:52:47.240 Yeah.

00:52:47.620 You weren't doing

00:52:48.420 Psy Master?

00:52:51.260 No, but here's what's interesting.

00:52:53.180 Woke up with sore thighs

00:52:54.080 as though I had worked out yesterday.

00:52:55.300 I hadn't been in my dream.

00:52:56.360 I was doing these crazy workouts

00:52:57.680 with my legs.

00:52:59.540 Woke up with the muscles were sore.

00:53:01.140 Thoughts?

00:53:02.040 Crazy dreams happening.

00:53:03.780 Sailing through the air.

00:53:04.840 holding a bomb in my hand throwing it oh really weird technology up close diving into the water

00:53:11.160 i had some wild ones last night can't remember a single thing but in the morning i knew it was

00:53:15.500 it was on a level that would immediately disappear it was it had it held paradigms

00:53:21.060 that could not withstand the day follow through to conscious life yeah so i knew i knew it was

00:53:26.080 gonna be gone unless i wrote it and i was in no mood quick announcement i was a guest on this

00:53:31.200 Jungian life what can you believe it oh my god amazing huge and guess what they're gonna do

00:53:37.640 guess what I'm convincing them to do I'm convincing them to do that's what I beg them to do and they're

00:53:41.820 gonna do it an episode on like performer like the performer as an archetype and it's like a Jungian

00:53:46.540 like a Jungian analysis of my god it's great brilliant um well I think we have to wrap up

00:53:53.900 doll but really quickly I'm tired too but I'm so excited for dinner no don't go yet okay here's my

00:53:58.700 question because i know you're a keto queen i know you're a keto queen but i'm a blood sugar

00:54:04.600 off the table not keto technically okay but just i'm saying for a crazy night out it's like i just

00:54:10.780 want people to know are onion rings off the table nothing's off the table it's okay if they are

00:54:15.320 no i know but because by the way jacqueline i'm already anticipating they're gonna send a dessert 0.98

00:54:20.320 they're gonna send a nut-free dessert like an ice cream sundae oh fuck they're not sending anything 0.97

00:54:27.320 I don't know when you'll learn 0.99

00:54:29.100 oh they're sending something

00:54:32.660 I don't think they're sending anything

00:54:34.380 do they know we're coming

00:54:35.700 yeah they know we're coming and I'm going to text

00:54:38.380 and maybe they know something we don't

00:54:40.040 maybe they know that put me on there

00:54:42.620 I really need to start building the bond

00:54:44.360 I'm going to send a group text

00:54:46.400 and I think I can feel it in my bones

00:54:48.400 I think I'm going with the filet

00:54:49.680 I think I'm going to get the filet as usual

00:54:51.640 yeah I just

00:54:53.320 they always say the flavor is more

00:54:56.220 in the, some of the other cuts. And you know what? You've really changed my life as a friend

00:54:59.680 because you know what you've put into my life? Not splitting appetizers. Oh my God. My pride.

00:55:07.380 I'm going to get my own salad. Oh my God. My pride, my pride, my pride, my pride. This,

00:55:13.860 that is like a contribution that I, yeah. I'm, it's like, oh, it's supposed to, I was like,

00:55:18.900 well, I'll be getting my own appetizers. That's incredible. Yeah. They're not all

00:55:23.520 finger food for the group. I would vote for tonight. Two private appetizers, one shared

00:55:30.200 appetizer. Yeah. I like that. Two steaks or whatever. I wonder if, are we going to get a

00:55:35.120 vegetable side with whatever we get? Absolutely. We're going to get probably, I love the side.

00:55:39.340 Pea tendrils? Creamed spinach. I would use pea tendrils. I would do cream spinach.

00:55:44.040 We're not in ramp season yet, are we? Oh wait, what about the tomato salad with the onion? No,

00:55:49.060 I know I know honey I'm saying it because you're a classic no I know because you always go when

00:55:54.720 we're there you go really tomatoes on the menu now I know this this time of year kimchi brussel

00:56:00.180 sprouts sounds like what could that do that will send you to heaven oh my god I'm so excited

00:56:06.880 I'm gonna pick you up right yams purple yams I'll pick you up at around 550 and let me think about

00:56:14.980 this what am I gonna wear what are we wearing I wish I'm not going hard I didn't even tell you

00:56:20.000 about my injury I'm gonna say this really quickly you're gonna love this yeah maybe you won't I

00:56:23.700 mean it's me being in pain so why would you love it but I don't know this was ADD this was classic

00:56:28.600 ADD racing rushing right I'm rushing you'll relate to this too in my office I have this carpet

00:56:36.160 it like doesn't work the carpet doesn't work in this way where the the door opens and it hits

00:56:42.320 it's chaos right it's been like bothering me for months i don't do yeah unacceptable yeah i'm

00:56:46.780 rushing around i do something i grab the door the door handle knocks me in the abdomen really hard

00:56:52.480 like because i'm i run into it basically at full force yeah i i kind of i don't crumble but i keel

00:56:58.340 over a little and i go and this is i go i can't live like this and what's really here's what's

00:57:04.780 really embarrassing about it there's a repair man within he heard he heard me he heard me

00:57:13.800 it's wonderful luckily my partner was here too and that's why i felt comfortable then being like

00:57:19.440 i hurt myself so then my immediately a bruise starts to form and a welt under the skin of my

00:57:24.340 abdomen okay which is alarming because i've never felt that in my life yeah a welt i immediately

00:57:30.920 text my doctor god bless her a full photo of the bruise she goes you're gonna live i made an

00:57:35.860 appointment with a doctor based on a couple reviews it was the only way i have to zoc doc

00:57:41.340 i went on zoc doc look at this under my abdomen can you believe that it does look strange

00:57:48.920 it's not scary yeah and then here's it the next day so the bump went down yeah it went down you

00:57:54.600 know what you know what you should do on that or or if it's gone already what no fun for you but

00:57:59.580 It's a perfect size.

00:58:02.280 They say that it's good for soft tissue injuries.

00:58:07.080 And it's such like a small little dot.

00:58:09.800 Yeah.

00:58:10.660 No.

00:58:11.660 Yeah.

00:58:12.500 That's amazing.

00:58:13.980 Okay.

00:58:14.400 Well, I can't wait to see you tonight.

00:58:15.720 We'll take pictures at Jar, post for the hags.

00:58:18.280 Yeah.

00:58:18.860 There's new merch.

00:58:19.960 I don't know if that's been made clear.

00:58:21.820 It has been made clear.

00:58:22.960 But there's a Juilliard hoodie.

00:58:24.180 I got to tell you folks, sitting here with the water bottle.

00:58:26.580 It's unreal.

00:58:27.180 I want posts.

00:58:28.760 Oh.

00:58:29.580 I want to see it in the wild, you know?

00:58:32.620 I think I actually requested that.

00:58:34.440 I have to look to see.

00:58:35.220 And what if, God forbid, due to my two-phone system, I missed people's posts.

00:58:39.920 It's very possible.

00:58:41.220 I'm thrilled to see that the water bottle is large and of high quality.

00:58:44.340 I mean, as I insisted, you'll recall.

00:58:46.480 It's containing water.

00:58:47.600 I was like, our listeners are not going to be satisfied with some nod to a water bottle.

00:58:54.320 But I do want to evolve it.

00:58:55.500 I want to get it a boot.

00:58:56.620 I want to get it a bag, sling over the shoulder.

00:58:58.980 maybe like different options

00:59:01.200 a charm

00:59:01.840 I love you

00:59:06.040 I'll see you tonight with an absolute thrill

00:59:08.180 I love you too

00:59:09.120 okay bye

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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - March 26, 2024

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