Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - Stewing Separately

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00:02:39.300 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:40.780 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:02:41.900 And this is Poogh, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

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00:03:03.400 Greetings. We had an explosive dinner. Dinner was incredible. And Jacqueline and I,

00:03:09.360 first of all, it was three and a half hours. Let me do the math. Yeah, it was three and a half hours.

00:03:15.900 I mean, it was pure bliss. Lychee martinis. We were clutching each other,

00:03:20.540 screaming about the pleasure and then Jacqueline this is my joy you went mandatory weekly and I

00:03:26.040 went let's be let's make it realistic and go mandatory monthly you know what I mean yeah as

00:03:31.360 the thing that Tony Robbins said that changed my life which was and you're the one that got me

00:03:35.720 Tony Robbins was um people overestimate what they can do in a year and they underestimate what they 0.54

00:03:40.540 can do in 10 years really which is yeah I love that one damn yeah so yeah don't over it you know

00:03:48.960 do it a month. 0.90

00:03:51.420 Yeah.

00:03:51.760 Once a month.

00:03:53.260 We had the other luxury jar

00:03:55.020 sitting in a corner table

00:03:57.100 that allowed us to sit next to each other

00:03:59.800 and stare out at the rest of the room.

00:04:01.420 Which is, I think,

00:04:01.980 the preferred dining arrangement

00:04:03.460 is next to,

00:04:04.480 I mean, corner is great.

00:04:05.880 I do too.

00:04:06.800 Side by side.

00:04:07.420 Yeah, it was essentially a corner,

00:04:09.320 but it was a soft corner.

00:04:10.920 It was gorgeous.

00:04:11.700 It's a corner,

00:04:12.620 but it's where you can glance out

00:04:16.200 and it's natural.

00:04:18.960 To be able to, it'd be interesting if a restaurant was shaped sort of in a circle.

00:04:26.500 Okay.

00:04:27.580 So everyone's, and like a circle where every table is kind of peering down to the next level.

00:04:38.500 Like everyone's got a view of almost a whole room.

00:04:41.240 Like the Guggenheim?

00:04:42.960 Yeah.

00:04:43.360 and the waiters dance

00:04:48.480 you know

00:04:49.580 the waiters

00:04:50.100 move for their

00:04:51.560 their choreography

00:04:53.240 crossing

00:04:55.480 maybe

00:04:55.840 the center is open

00:04:57.460 yeah

00:04:58.420 no but I like the

00:04:59.700 I like the idea

00:05:00.720 of

00:05:01.300 not having to crane the head

00:05:03.280 to glance

00:05:03.820 it's more of a

00:05:04.620 gentle

00:05:05.220 natural glance

00:05:06.060 glance to take in the whole room

00:05:07.480 it is a power spot

00:05:08.440 everyone's taking in everyone

00:05:09.580 yeah

00:05:09.980 you're taking in

00:05:10.660 just like they're taking in

00:05:11.820 so

00:05:12.200 i'd also like to say i had an explosive dinner at mozza i don't know the last time you were there

00:05:17.180 with you i think a long time ago what did you have everything unbelievable start with a one

00:05:24.400 of their burratas we had yeah different mozzarellas different toasts they sent over i repeat they sent

00:05:29.820 over some of the most remarkable prosciutto i've ever had in my life no with a smoked mozzarella

00:05:36.480 smoked cheese not my usual this with the prosciutto was shocking my god it was top to

00:05:43.640 bottom just excellence also the best spagliato i've ever had by far can't recall what that is

00:05:50.000 it's kind of like i want to look up the exact it's kind of like a negroni but with bubbles

00:05:53.640 and as you know i love a prosecco let me see this was like a you know a viral drink because there

00:06:01.200 was like a joke about it on the internet or something i didn't quite follow okay it's dry

00:06:05.720 Prosecco, sweet vermouth, Campari, club soda.

00:06:09.400 Yeah.

00:06:09.720 So it's like a Necroni.

00:06:13.340 So you've got two forms of bubbles.

00:06:14.660 Yeah.

00:06:15.620 It's a beautiful aperitif.

00:06:17.760 Don't you usually feel like there's only one form of bubble happening?

00:06:22.260 Yeah.

00:06:22.740 But spritz. 1.00

00:06:23.680 That's why I'm such a spritz whore. 0.90

00:06:25.220 Because I love the club soda on top of the sparkling alcohol. 0.97

00:06:28.700 Right.

00:06:29.220 For extra effervescence.

00:06:33.100 Almost seems like two gradations of bubbles.

00:06:35.720 Yeah, it's bubbles on bubbles.

00:06:37.240 One finer one.

00:06:38.620 By the way, the lychee martini is now being served in a coupe glass.

00:06:42.260 Yeah, it changed.

00:06:43.080 And I noted it.

00:06:44.320 God, it was good.

00:06:45.340 Jim confirmed, in fact, that I think it's new, right?

00:06:50.840 Yep.

00:06:51.400 It moved on from the triangle.

00:06:52.900 Yep.

00:06:53.380 Yeah.

00:06:53.740 They changed it.

00:06:54.660 I actually was going to say the coupe I enjoy,

00:06:56.640 I kind of did enjoy the retro feel of the old school martini glass there.

00:07:00.840 I understand why they wanted to move past it.

00:07:03.660 Yeah.

00:07:03.920 I mean practicality

00:07:06.080 I must say

00:07:07.440 is real

00:07:07.940 I lose

00:07:08.720 liquid

00:07:09.540 out of a triangle

00:07:10.520 just goes flying

00:07:11.440 right over

00:07:11.900 the edge

00:07:12.700 soaks a cuff

00:07:14.100 yeah the lychee martini

00:07:16.700 was perfection

00:07:17.480 I will say

00:07:18.360 on this

00:07:19.220 the food was incredible

00:07:20.120 everyone treated us

00:07:21.100 so well

00:07:21.660 Suzanne came over 1.00

00:07:23.200 to the table

00:07:23.660 it was heaven

00:07:24.120 Chris, Jim, Jose

00:07:26.140 I was speaking Spanish

00:07:27.740 at some point 0.96

00:07:28.460 it was heaven

00:07:28.980 oh yeah

00:07:29.720 that's what happens

00:07:31.240 when I have

00:07:31.760 a lychee martini

00:07:32.920 you were good

00:07:33.700 I go bilingual 1.00

00:07:35.200 It's flying out of you 1.00

00:07:36.580 Oh god it was so good

00:07:38.460 I mean to be at dinner with you

00:07:41.880 I'm fresh off a nap

00:07:42.860 A real 14 minuter nap

00:07:45.780 So the kind where I'm going

00:07:47.960 It's not enough but

00:07:49.380 You know it's the kind they claim

00:07:51.620 Is good

00:07:53.320 I was just lying there

00:07:54.960 I was actually lying on my higher dose mat 0.98

00:07:56.640 Shut up amazing 0.99

00:07:58.060 Now are you going guided? 1.00

00:08:00.480 Not guided

00:08:01.080 Are you setting an alarm?

00:08:03.500 Yeah, I set an alarm.

00:08:05.340 Did you drift?

00:08:06.080 I'm lying on the higher dose PEMF mat, right?

00:08:08.800 Amazing.

00:08:10.220 It's warm.

00:08:12.640 I have to unbutton my pants.

00:08:13.840 I just lie on my back.

00:08:15.160 Yeah.

00:08:16.220 And I put my feet up a little bit.

00:08:20.640 Well, you know, like, you know, this thing about putting your legs up the wall, being like the cure-all.

00:08:25.000 Legs up the wall at the end of the day. 1.00

00:08:26.300 That's what Melissa Wood does. 1.00

00:08:27.960 She does it every day. 1.00

00:08:29.000 Oh, really?

00:08:29.420 What does that mean?

00:08:29.960 So everyone's clear.

00:08:31.280 it's like imagine you just are on your bed

00:08:33.500 but your legs are on the wall like it's just elevating your legs

00:08:35.720 so your heels are on the wall

00:08:37.620 yeah

00:08:38.260 heels the back of the heel 0.98

00:08:41.520 what's the idea there draining fluid

00:08:43.240 what's the idea

00:08:44.000 like you're sitting like a

00:08:47.000 right angle

00:08:48.140 what's the idea though there

00:08:49.900 like straight up

00:08:50.980 classic cure-all

00:08:53.720 for what all of it

00:08:56.000 you know like regulates the nervous system

00:08:58.280 throws you into the parasympathetic

00:08:59.860 Oh, wow.

00:09:00.840 You know, floor, a million things.

00:09:05.000 And then like it's fun.

00:09:06.880 So like what I like to do with anything like that is like going to the position and then Google the benefits.

00:09:12.060 So I'm like.

00:09:12.520 Yeah, of course. 0.97

00:09:13.840 And then like people are so like ridiculous sometimes. 0.61

00:09:18.120 People are like, what are the side effects of legs up the wall? 0.92

00:09:23.260 Side effects?

00:09:24.420 Yeah.

00:09:25.240 I noticed this a lot.

00:09:26.260 Increased mood.

00:09:27.600 What do they say?

00:09:27.980 Google is like, what are the side effects?

00:09:29.160 Like people are like, and then like, what are the disadvantages to legs up the wall?

00:09:34.220 What do they say?

00:09:35.300 What could there possibly be?

00:09:36.700 There aren't.

00:09:37.340 I mean, I don't, you know, there aren't.

00:09:39.160 It's like, you know, it's the backlash.

00:09:41.660 It's the inevitable backlash.

00:09:43.680 Of course.

00:09:46.340 I'm wrapped in a blanket, which is...

00:09:48.640 She is wrapped in a blanket, yeah.

00:09:50.020 Interesting.

00:09:51.140 And it's a quilt.

00:09:52.820 It's a full-sized beds quilt.

00:09:55.740 Yeah.

00:09:56.260 Did you just bring it up from the nap?

00:09:58.080 No, you were on...

00:09:58.880 No, I napped blanketless, actually.

00:10:01.660 Okay.

00:10:02.060 I napped like a soldier in 1942 on a war cot, okay?

00:10:11.500 Well, it is, as you know, I have the mattress on the ground in the living room, the twin

00:10:16.240 mattress.

00:10:16.940 What's the mattress doing?

00:10:18.660 Lying on the ground and then the PAMF mat peeling all day.

00:10:23.320 It's a, yeah, hang out on it.

00:10:26.040 Sometimes I use my computer on it.

00:10:28.880 I gotta get into it

00:10:31.020 like you haven't even used it once right

00:10:33.080 I just can't imagine

00:10:35.340 having something like that and not

00:10:36.820 I cracked it open

00:10:38.420 door still open behind me

00:10:40.640 oh my god I mean for me

00:10:42.740 I don't understand you must not believe

00:10:44.280 it's like I need to

00:10:46.720 it's the floor space it's the heating it up

00:10:49.340 it's like I have to have the

00:10:50.960 I have to put it on the couch

00:10:52.300 I have to have the foresight to heat it up

00:10:54.320 you see what I'm saying because it takes like an hour to heat up

00:10:57.040 no

00:10:58.700 Well, no.

00:10:59.360 Half an hour?

00:10:59.740 It takes...

00:11:00.460 What?

00:11:01.480 Well, first of all, we're talking about the PEMF mat, not the Sonomat.

00:11:05.500 No, we're talking about the PEMF mat.

00:11:06.720 Yeah, it's like five to 10 minutes to reach the heat.

00:11:11.580 But it's also, you're getting the PEMF frequencies, I think, even if the heat's off.

00:11:20.000 You're kidding.

00:11:20.860 You heard me. 1.00

00:11:21.660 Holy shit. 1.00

00:11:22.320 Yeah. 0.99

00:11:22.600 And what about the ions, Kate?

00:11:24.100 The crystals are in there.

00:11:25.040 I know.

00:11:25.900 No, trust me.

00:11:26.580 Everything...

00:11:27.020 I'm laying on a bed of crystals.

00:11:28.340 I'm going to get into it.

00:11:29.980 I'm going to get into it.

00:11:31.480 What are you drinking there?

00:11:32.920 Is that ice?

00:11:33.580 Iced quad espresso, cinnamon powder, and a little splash of cream.

00:11:38.760 Sorry, I wouldn't normally...

00:11:40.340 I forgot to do that to disturb, but literally, Suzanne Tracht... 0.97

00:11:43.360 Has broken in?

00:11:44.540 Texted.

00:11:45.520 Really?

00:11:46.920 Oh, my God.

00:11:49.400 Am I on it?

00:11:50.860 No, she sent it just to me.

00:11:52.060 I don't think she has my number.

00:11:53.000 But she said two things for you and Jacqueline. 0.95

00:11:54.420 And she wants to send us vodka.

00:11:57.800 What?

00:11:58.520 And she has a good friend who works with some hotel in the desert.

00:12:02.340 And she can make your arrangements.

00:12:05.480 So she's really a friend and ally.

00:12:08.860 Hotel in the desert, you say?

00:12:10.620 Yeah, I'll get more information.

00:12:12.360 All right, that's huge.

00:12:13.920 But we're in.

00:12:14.720 We're in with Suzanne.

00:12:16.720 That's great.

00:12:17.480 It's huge. 0.58

00:12:18.580 I must say, the pride I felt is the chef made her way over the table.

00:12:22.360 Yeah. 0.99

00:12:23.080 Incredible food.

00:12:23.840 she I mean I couldn't believe it I ordered the halibut I've never not ordered the steak there

00:12:27.480 oh yeah they had the halibut she goes it was just shipped in today oh yeah best halibut I've ever

00:12:31.700 had in my life to crave halibut I couldn't even believe it he reads a special I go I'll hear the

00:12:35.580 specials for fun but he goes halibut would never my ears would never perk up at halibut next thing

00:12:40.080 I know I'm ordering the halibut with caper belly caper yeah I know I was worried for you it is so

00:12:44.960 good the caper berry relish is heaven the fish was so fresh didn't need much it's heaven banana

00:12:51.740 cream pie. I had two

00:12:53.700 leachitinis and I was ready to

00:12:55.740 talk truth. Oh, yeah. We had a banana cream pie.

00:12:57.620 Now they pointed out before. Go ahead.

00:12:59.800 Oh, remember? I had a huge moment.

00:13:01.680 We were like, let's talk about banana for an entire

00:13:03.720 episode. Oh, yeah. Because

00:13:05.700 I was like, the flavor of banana,

00:13:07.860 it's so wide. And it is.

00:13:09.580 Okay.

00:13:11.300 We had a banana cream pie and they were like,

00:13:13.740 it's not a slice, to be clear. It's

00:13:15.560 its own small pie. It's a round

00:13:17.840 baby pie. Boy, was it.

00:13:19.440 Fuck. Was that not the... We didn't even really properly 0.99

00:13:21.600 dwell on that because the conversation was explosive i teared up twice got choked up

00:13:28.640 seven all positive all good god it was it was you really wild one or two transformative dinners a

00:13:36.940 month and you're good but one you need yeah one minimum my stomach hurts by the way now i very

00:13:45.160 rare for me I never get cramps and I mean never yeah and I just was driving earlier and I go

00:13:51.800 what's this pain I started to almost panic because as you know I as I explained on last

00:13:56.980 week's episode I ran into a doorknob oh right and I thought internal bleeding due to the doorknob

00:14:01.800 and I go I think these are just run-of-the-mill period cramps wild to run into a doorknob

00:14:06.840 nothing else hit anything I know it was just the abdomen knob yeah how did the nose not hit the

00:14:12.320 door. You know what I mean? Because the face usually sticks out further. It's a pretty ridiculous

00:14:18.360 sight. Just the abdomen was struck. But I see what you're saying. You in last week's episode 0.72

00:14:23.560 mentioned being premenstrual, period, wanting to clean up, wanting to get things in order.

00:14:28.160 That's what's happening over here, I have to say. Yeah. The creative phase.

00:14:31.680 It's incredible. The creative phase. Have you had a chance to try out the new technique,

00:14:36.680 reset the room? Has it lived in you at all? I thought about reset the room yesterday.

00:14:40.040 It doesn't mean the room has to be perfect to begin with.

00:14:42.460 No, just one or two things.

00:14:43.840 You bring a cup in, whatever.

00:14:45.400 Undo the thing you just did to it.

00:14:47.140 I like that.

00:14:47.900 Undo the thing you just did to it.

00:14:50.060 I'm going to take it further.

00:14:51.200 I haven't fully implemented it, but I don't know.

00:14:55.020 You just, today's one of those days.

00:14:56.780 I feel, you know what?

00:14:57.320 I woke up earlier than I thought, isn't that, isn't sleep fascinating?

00:15:01.380 Some days you wake up, you're tired.

00:15:03.120 Other days you wake up, you're not.

00:15:04.240 Why, right?

00:15:04.920 There's a whole institution to finding this out.

00:15:07.980 But today I woke up, somehow I was okay.

00:15:11.600 Today's one of those days I'm getting things done.

00:15:13.840 I feel like the light of God is within me.

00:15:16.440 Can you feel it?

00:15:17.040 And I'm wondering if part of it was waking up,

00:15:19.940 I had to do a work call while I was preparing for a work meeting.

00:15:24.280 My God.

00:15:25.180 Did my makeup, got ready for the meeting before the call

00:15:29.000 as I was having my morning coffee.

00:15:31.080 So then I was ready, dressed.

00:15:34.780 Because I find the chaos is, you know,

00:15:37.040 listening to the ADD book

00:15:38.640 they go ADD brain you hear

00:15:40.420 I have to leave in a half an hour

00:15:41.680 what you hear is I don't

00:15:42.540 I don't have to leave now

00:15:43.700 okay thank you

00:15:45.620 which I relate to deeply

00:15:47.000 yeah

00:15:47.520 and then

00:15:48.180 it's the most chaotic

00:15:49.800 seven minutes of your life

00:15:50.920 right before you have to leave

00:15:51.940 yeah

00:15:52.280 you could have had 30 minutes to prepare

00:15:53.760 instead you have seven

00:15:54.700 well now

00:15:55.400 you know that being now or not now

00:15:57.220 yeah yeah now or not now

00:15:58.600 exactly

00:15:58.980 is a big one

00:16:00.640 we don't

00:16:01.080 oh that's what it is

00:16:01.900 we have to leave in 30 minutes

00:16:02.940 we don't have to leave now

00:16:04.140 yeah

00:16:05.080 exactly

00:16:06.100 So I actually, my partner suggested, which was really massive.

00:16:10.520 They're like, why don't you start getting ready?

00:16:12.080 I'll make the coffee.

00:16:13.360 My God.

00:16:13.860 So then I'm already getting ready.

00:16:16.060 Knowing coffee's in process.

00:16:18.280 Yeah.

00:16:18.900 Then I'm drinking coffee, putting on my face, loving the Charlotte Tilbury lip.

00:16:24.360 What shade is that?

00:16:25.280 I purchased, I'm hesitant to even say it.

00:16:27.360 I spent more money than I've ever spent on a lipstick.

00:16:30.280 Oh, wait.

00:16:31.200 I think you showed, I saw this at dinner.

00:16:32.700 I showed it to you.

00:16:33.320 Yeah.

00:16:34.160 Cicely Paris?

00:16:35.300 Yeah.

00:16:35.640 Yeah.

00:16:36.100 most expensive i was like 40 i go you're like no higher i was like 60 insane i mean it's sick now

00:16:43.320 to me you must you must have seen some woman yeah using it of course it's a woman you think

00:16:49.260 it's my friend if i had you know she yeah yeah like that she really honestly it's just such a

00:16:56.700 pretty color and then um sorry to keep bringing up my partner but they were like that's my favorite

00:17:02.240 lipstick I've seen on you. Purchased, done, over. You know what I mean? That's what pushed me

00:17:08.860 into the purchase.

00:17:18.600 This is Ryder Strong, and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.

00:17:22.680 It was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea.

00:17:27.880 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Trainor, disappeared from a commune.

00:17:31.800 It was hard to wrap your head around.

00:17:33.220 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.

00:17:36.880 No, I am not your guru.

00:17:40.620 And back then, I lied to my parents.

00:17:43.240 I lied to police.

00:17:44.520 I lied to everybody.

00:17:45.520 There were years right where I could not say your name.

00:17:48.280 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,

00:17:51.160 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,

00:17:53.980 whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.

00:17:57.340 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods

00:18:00.240 and not the obvious boyfriend?

00:18:01.800 They have had this case for 30 years. 0.98

00:18:04.860 I'll teach you sons of **** to come around here and my wife. 0.97

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00:20:51.300 i purchased out of pocket a foundation that was advertised to me on instagram i want to look up

00:21:00.240 what the brand is it looks like a stick it is a stick um you know like westman i feel like i was

00:21:06.520 i feel like i was advertised this as well and i don't know why it's like um i bet if i type in

00:21:13.100 sorry if this is beyond boring beyond cognition no i'm very interested because moisture i was

00:21:20.260 staring at a stick

00:21:21.320 and going

00:21:22.340 like

00:21:23.040 and believing I need it

00:21:24.120 even though I don't really wear

00:21:25.080 foundation

00:21:25.960 as a result of this ad

00:21:27.160 OG

00:21:27.620 OGEE

00:21:28.660 that's what the brand is

00:21:30.040 and I saw it advertised

00:21:30.820 on Instagram

00:21:31.660 I too did

00:21:32.260 it's called the sculpted 0.79

00:21:33.240 complexion stick

00:21:34.220 evens out skin tone

00:21:35.340 because you know what

00:21:35.980 I went

00:21:36.260 well this is perfect for travel

00:21:37.660 because you just throw it

00:21:38.380 in your bag

00:21:38.840 and then you don't have

00:21:39.360 a wet

00:21:39.760 foundation bottle

00:21:41.060 rolling around

00:21:41.800 something you could put

00:21:42.760 in your purse

00:21:43.280 to do touch ups

00:21:43.980 along the way

00:21:44.540 between meetings

00:21:46.200 these photos

00:21:47.940 purchased it

00:21:49.060 the V-beam

00:21:49.720 I mentioned, again, I'm undergoing so dramatic.

00:21:53.260 I got a V-beam laser treatment, which is meant to target redness.

00:21:57.560 Had some burst blood vessels on my face.

00:21:59.640 Nothing too horrific, but just enough to annoy me almost daily, just barely.

00:22:05.140 And I have to say one treatment, I'm seeing an improvement.

00:22:07.460 I don't know why a burst blood vessel and I have them doesn't really bother me.

00:22:12.060 Mine is on, here's why, it's about placement.

00:22:14.140 Mine's on the bridge of my nose right here.

00:22:16.080 And it's like, I put makeup on it, but then I wear sunglasses.

00:22:19.100 It rubs it off. 0.99

00:22:19.620 You know, it's exactly in the spot where if it were like on my cheek, I feel like I wouldn't give a shit. 0.97

00:22:24.920 But it's fun to go, you know, I'm just, I'm attacking the face with the laser, the hydrafacial. 0.96

00:22:30.360 The hydrafacial.

00:22:31.300 And I want you to hear me.

00:22:33.060 Yeah.

00:22:33.400 I am committed to beginning Lima, full Lima treatment.

00:22:39.360 Yeah.

00:22:39.880 The at-home Lima laser.

00:22:41.200 I'm going to go hard like you.

00:22:42.780 Well, you know, you could sort of fall asleep holding it in a position and then kind of let it slip between the pillows.

00:22:48.500 God, there's nothing better.

00:22:49.440 interesting technique 0.52

00:22:50.460 it's all about televisions

00:22:51.600 it's a television habit

00:22:52.880 I was falling asleep

00:22:54.020 last night

00:22:54.620 watching a film

00:22:55.900 is there anything

00:22:57.700 better

00:22:58.160 than the

00:22:59.000 the quality of the sleep

00:23:00.480 that you slip into

00:23:01.280 while watching a movie

00:23:02.600 unreal

00:23:03.500 and then I felt myself

00:23:05.480 measure it now

00:23:06.660 I felt myself

00:23:07.420 doing the thing

00:23:08.360 where

00:23:09.080 again I was watching

00:23:10.180 it with my partner

00:23:10.680 and I was trying to

00:23:12.440 hide that I was

00:23:13.120 falling asleep

00:23:13.660 so

00:23:14.040 well this is one of the

00:23:15.360 biggest

00:23:15.540 react to it

00:23:16.120 and then I go

00:23:16.680 I go

00:23:17.060 oh wait how about

00:23:17.940 and then

00:23:19.740 jolted myself awake

00:23:21.920 but then that sleep

00:23:23.700 jolted?

00:23:25.060 I don't know

00:23:27.320 because it was like I suggested we watch it

00:23:30.560 and then here I am falling asleep

00:23:31.640 but the

00:23:33.820 velvety sleep that can only come

00:23:36.620 from watching something

00:23:38.460 well to me

00:23:40.540 it feels like the brain and the sounds

00:23:42.700 of the TV and

00:23:44.500 whatever story has lulled you into

00:23:46.680 they're like

00:23:47.940 they're in this handshake, okay?

00:23:50.280 And then the fear that if the person you're with

00:23:53.380 discovers you're asleep, that they'll turn it off.

00:23:55.780 Suddenly it's like,

00:23:56.900 my brain was hanging from the handshake with that sound.

00:24:01.040 If you now remove the silence, free fall.

00:24:03.720 The sleep will go.

00:24:04.600 Yeah, totally.

00:24:05.560 It's action thrillers for me.

00:24:09.180 That's what it was.

00:24:10.060 That's what I want every night.

00:24:11.600 Okay, see, this is interesting

00:24:12.500 because that's not my usual genre.

00:24:14.420 And it's certainly not my usual fall asleep genre.

00:24:16.820 It's like-

00:24:17.520 Is that what it was?

00:24:18.060 What it has come to is fascinating.

00:24:20.740 Is action thrillers.

00:24:24.040 Oh my God. 1.00

00:24:24.780 The faces you're making are ridiculous. 1.00

00:24:27.540 About the pain? 1.00

00:24:28.220 You asking for Advil?

00:24:29.080 I've got to leave here.

00:24:31.280 I've got to leave here.

00:24:34.740 I'm telling you, I'm like a virgin over here.

00:24:37.100 I don't get cramps.

00:24:38.000 It's shocking.

00:24:39.100 What are you, popping a Mydol?

00:24:42.240 Drinking out of a large jar.

00:24:44.020 A leave.

00:24:45.180 Oh, right. 1.00

00:24:45.860 Oh, you're an aleve girl. 1.00

00:24:46.380 Taking a leave down. 1.00

00:24:47.520 in an Erewhon jar. 0.95

00:24:49.660 I mean, I can't believe it.

00:24:50.540 Is this really what cramps are?

00:24:51.740 Jesus.

00:24:52.720 So Erewhon jars, deposit $3.

00:24:55.160 Yep.

00:24:55.840 It says that on there.

00:24:56.700 Yep.

00:24:57.120 So you bring those back?

00:24:58.260 Yep.

00:24:58.500 Three go back on the account?

00:24:59.740 I bring them back all the time.

00:25:01.020 Interesting.

00:25:01.560 You're a member, right?

00:25:02.800 Oh, yeah.

00:25:03.360 Oh, yeah, honey.

00:25:04.000 I say, oh, yeah, but it was a huge event in my life.

00:25:06.180 Well, of course, but the savings, they roll in.

00:25:08.820 Savings are unreal.

00:25:09.880 Savings are real.

00:25:10.600 If you have the habit, you have to spring for it.

00:25:14.980 For those of you, it's presumptuous.

00:25:16.320 for those of you not living within los angeles erwan as i think we've established is a luxury

00:25:21.960 shocking boutique health food store that's you know you know ridiculed and mocked for its high

00:25:28.420 prices and its clientele but guess what also is ridiculed and mocked couldn't think of anything

00:25:34.940 interesting there but yeah you can imagine um rome yeah no you know what people think rome is

00:25:43.540 tacky. What did I see this woman going? 0.99

00:25:45.420 Lima, it's not cheap. Neither are you. 0.97

00:25:49.360 And I was like,

00:25:51.220 oh, that's a good line

00:25:52.500 for someone who recommends products.

00:25:55.760 But if you remember, you get 10% off

00:25:57.160 there, final. But you have

00:25:59.240 to pay

00:25:59.640 a little fee up

00:26:03.200 there, up top. Here's why I don't

00:26:05.140 understand math. The first time I heard it, I was

00:26:07.140 shocked. $200 for the year

00:26:09.140 and then... $200 a year.

00:26:10.880 When you then work on the whole 10% 0.61

00:26:13.200 off thing and you go holy shit wait if I'm here regularly it's worth it oh yeah I mean so many

00:26:22.080 things are like that it's all about do you have the cash up front you know I'm saying I know yeah

00:26:28.060 it's like yeah anything with savings is sometimes you don't have the upfront cash yeah sometimes

00:26:32.460 you're at air one on your last dime going you know I'd rather blow it out for the last 20 bucks

00:26:38.440 you know what I mean like totally um on something good I don't know I don't appreciate that the

00:26:45.400 free smoothie each month oh I've gotten it like their recipe I really don't appreciate that

00:26:51.700 that it's not just and that it's half the size and that it is the free smoothie yeah it's not

00:26:58.200 a full size honey wow it's a squat container so again if you remember the first two weeks

00:27:04.420 of the month not the full month the first two weeks of the month which I also don't appreciate

00:27:08.060 because I miss it constantly

00:27:09.100 because the line is so long.

00:27:10.820 I don't want to wait for a smoothie

00:27:11.820 that I don't even really want.

00:27:13.400 The line is long.

00:27:14.160 You know, it's even longer.

00:27:15.620 The wait for the drink.

00:27:17.020 Oh, wait.

00:27:17.840 I'll tell you something that happened.

00:27:19.320 I was at Erewhon with a friend.

00:27:21.440 We order, we go up to the thing.

00:27:24.440 Two drinks, two acai bowls.

00:27:27.060 My friend orders for me.

00:27:28.460 He's going to get my acai bowl.

00:27:30.660 The guy behind goes,

00:27:31.460 just the two items.

00:27:33.000 Like basically what happened,

00:27:33.820 we ordered the acai bowl.

00:27:34.840 We're standing there waiting.

00:27:36.200 It's Saturday.

00:27:36.820 We're like, it's taking a long time.

00:27:38.060 we're catching up just the two items as in we're catching up the acai we're standing there for i

00:27:42.780 would say 20 at this point over 20 minutes yeah which is standard sorry sorry to bother maybe

00:27:48.180 we're hitting 25 minute mark i go could i check the order for the two acais the cashier over here

00:27:53.300 just goes you guys didn't order acais and we were like oh my god and he got so defensive in this way

00:28:00.740 where it's like you're so defensive that you you saw us waiting here for 20 you you knew yeah you 0.94

00:28:07.320 what i'm saying yes and then we didn't we weren't going like what the fuck we were like oh no yeah 0.99

00:28:13.280 we thought we ordered it and he was like that didn't come out of your mouth which also was 0.99

00:28:17.180 no no yeah no no yeah no we go you know what fuck you no i guess not we said to us i mean i don't 0.99

00:28:26.120 know who who knows but the the bigger issue is that we were waiting for 25 minutes and as soon 1.00

00:28:32.200 it's bold to say it didn't come out of your mouth when he heard us saying it to each other i guess 0.90

00:28:37.000 oh i don't know it was fucking crazy i'm interested and also i didn't see the the 0.79

00:28:43.320 total cash amount because i wasn't paying anyway right and then at that point you just leave 0.80

00:28:51.020 because you're not going to wait an additional half an hour for the acai also i'll say air one

00:28:55.940 the then we'll get off air one the the bowls for the acai used to be larger and then they

00:29:00.680 downsize to a smaller bowl. Really? Yeah. Cost has remained the same, I imagine. Of course.

00:29:06.500 That is the way of the world. That is the way it goes. We're getting fresh

00:29:11.860 Tsum tahini scent, by the way. Oh, Tsum has spoken. Because of our moaning on air.

00:29:16.980 Thank God. It's the best. I'm very pleased. It is simply the best.

00:29:21.380 How do you not use the... How much do you need? What do you mean?

00:29:26.960 If you're making a full dish of something, I don't know. How much...

00:29:30.360 In this house, we're going through tahini.

00:29:32.220 We're going through a jar easily every two weeks, maybe.

00:29:35.400 Once a month.

00:29:36.160 I don't know.

00:29:37.080 Doing a lot of tahini at the house.

00:29:38.940 Loaded with calcium.

00:29:40.500 Oh, really?

00:29:41.520 Mm-hmm.

00:29:42.360 Sesame seeds, baby.

00:29:45.000 Yeah, I've got like four different sesame seed products going at once on a kelp noodle.

00:29:49.360 Ooh, comacio.

00:29:50.560 I really want- 1.00

00:29:51.200 It's like the tahini's worked in.

00:29:52.300 The actual sesame seeds are floating on top.

00:29:55.480 Toasted sesame oil has been drizzled at the end.

00:29:57.940 It's like-

00:29:58.700 Toasted sesame oil is one of the most absolutely delicious items on the market.

00:30:03.400 Yeah.

00:30:04.200 I haven't had almond butter in a while.

00:30:06.240 And then I did.

00:30:07.260 It was in the house.

00:30:08.880 Yum.

00:30:10.480 Thought I'd love it.

00:30:11.120 I'd forgotten.

00:30:13.060 And I was just doing a thing, just spoon in and then take the spoon in the next room.

00:30:19.440 Almost like it's a popsicle or something.

00:30:21.840 Like just like, and then sitting down and eating it off the spoon is so delicious.

00:30:27.240 I got to get back to my candy business.

00:30:29.680 Here's a fun little, I didn't even tell you this bark.

00:30:32.080 No, I did tell you my raspberry bark.

00:30:33.880 I don't think so.

00:30:34.800 Raspberries, dump them out on a parchment paper tray.

00:30:37.880 No, you said nothing.

00:30:38.940 Melt chocolate with coconut oil.

00:30:40.940 Drizzle the chocolate and coconut oil over the raspberries, freeze it.

00:30:44.080 And chocolate and raspberry together.

00:30:45.420 Wait, what do you mean with coconut oil?

00:30:47.340 Just a separate drizzle?

00:30:48.780 No, sorry.

00:30:49.640 You melt the chocolate with the coconut oil.

00:30:52.380 To make it a liquid, yeah.

00:30:53.560 Yeah, a little coconut oil.

00:30:54.880 And then you drizzle on the berries.

00:30:56.780 Then it frees the whole thing.

00:30:57.540 It's like a bark.

00:30:58.300 It frees the whole thing.

00:30:59.320 Then it's like a raspberry chocolate bark.

00:31:01.600 It's fabulous.

00:31:03.180 Raspberry and chocolate,

00:31:04.100 the only fruit chocolate combination

00:31:05.760 that will stop me in my tracks.

00:31:07.480 Wait, let me think about this.

00:31:10.380 What?

00:31:10.700 Not cherry? 1.00

00:31:12.280 Cherry wins.

00:31:13.240 You're right, honey.

00:31:14.080 Yeah, thank you.

00:31:14.720 By the way,

00:31:15.280 when is the last time you had

00:31:17.840 Cherry Garcia ice cream?

00:31:21.000 I mean...

00:31:22.020 10 years?

00:31:22.620 Well, for...

00:31:23.660 No.

00:31:24.380 Because...

00:31:24.940 Well, for years,

00:31:25.580 I was having cherry chip rebel.

00:31:28.920 Okay, that was my... 1.00

00:31:29.920 Oh, shit. I've never had that. 0.99

00:31:30.580 Because Cherry Garcia was huge for me.

00:31:31.580 Are you off rebel, generally?

00:31:33.220 I mean, I'll eat it when I'm eating ice cream, but I'm not just on like nightly rebel.

00:31:37.280 Yeah, yeah, totally.

00:31:38.220 Because it was becoming like, you know, when the thing becomes so normal that like, you're not even tasting it.

00:31:44.240 You know what I mean?

00:31:44.820 Like, it's just sort of...

00:31:46.240 It was like, yes, like, you know, like so excited that it wasn't spiking my blood sugar.

00:31:52.600 But anyway, that was a cherry chip.

00:31:54.500 and the feeling of cherry flavored ice cream.

00:31:57.680 And then when you bite into the chip,

00:31:59.500 when you get a little cherry,

00:32:00.500 when you hit a little cherry in there.

00:32:01.860 Oh yeah.

00:32:02.460 Or then you hit a chip.

00:32:04.680 Well, I'll say to anyone listening,

00:32:06.400 go out and get Cherry Garcia, Ben & Jerry's.

00:32:09.380 If you have it in 10 years,

00:32:10.840 because I had it recently and I was-

00:32:13.000 It's unbelievable.

00:32:15.020 Transfixed, transformed.

00:32:16.160 I couldn't believe it.

00:32:17.420 But Rebels is comparable.

00:32:19.820 I'd be very curious.

00:32:20.780 I'd be very curious to try.

00:32:21.860 And, but that flavor is, that flavor is, you know what I was thinking about last night? 0.96

00:32:28.020 What happens if you whip faye? 0.90

00:32:30.840 Okay. 0.95

00:32:31.120 What happens if you whip Greek yogurt?

00:32:33.240 Does it get huge?

00:32:34.340 Ooh.

00:32:35.460 I don't know.

00:32:35.860 Now I know you can whip it with cream.

00:32:37.680 Like you add a little cream and you whip it.

00:32:40.040 I was reading.

00:32:40.820 Ooh, add cream and whip.

00:32:42.260 Wow.

00:32:42.940 I mean, I love the denseness normally, but.

00:32:46.560 Whipping it up.

00:32:47.480 I'm just imagining this huge pile of just this.

00:32:51.860 And then, yeah, we both stewed some blueberries on a similar night, remember?

00:32:57.240 I want to make my own drizzle.

00:32:58.560 We completely separately stewed blueberries separately, you and I.

00:33:03.360 I want to make my own drizzle, my own fruit on the bottom.

00:33:08.260 Coffee yogurt, unbelievable.

00:33:09.720 I don't know if that was ever anything for you in the late 90s, but...

00:33:12.220 Yeah, Dannon.

00:33:13.220 Early 90s, Dannon.

00:33:14.560 Coffee yogurt?

00:33:15.240 Was it a Dannon?

00:33:15.780 Dannon coffee yogurt.

00:33:16.740 It sure was. 1.00

00:33:17.000 Fuck, I haven't thought about that in a long time. 0.99

00:33:19.200 That had a specific quality because it was weird to have the coffee flavor with the kind of sourness of yogurt. 0.99

00:33:29.380 It was only, that was the only, it's not coffee ice cream.

00:33:32.720 It's very different.

00:33:34.240 I can't believe, Jacqueline, you'd bring that up because I really had never.

00:33:37.200 Thought about it?

00:33:37.720 Hadn't thought about it in all these years.

00:33:39.360 Yeah.

00:33:40.400 What about, I'm hungry.

00:33:43.220 I'm starving, actually.

00:33:44.280 I just ate.

00:33:44.840 oh you know what I'm trying to do a bit not exactly meditate but anytime I'm taking a nap

00:33:54.600 or going to sleep I lie there getting kind of a neutral position and then it's not exactly

00:34:01.300 that I'm trying to astral project but I start moving my limbs around kind of mentally and

00:34:08.800 feeling like I'm swimming like like I move my do you know I mean like I imagine and feel that

00:34:16.140 I'm moving my limbs but then I'm leaving my body limp and still and seeing like I'm swimming

00:34:23.320 swimming swimming but I'm like feeling it you know like I'm creating in my mind the feeling of doing

00:34:28.440 it and I feel like it's gonna have huge benefits and I'm not sure what they are swimming yeah

00:34:34.080 probably huge psychological benefits swimming while still and like because

00:34:40.580 reading all this stuff you know but firing the pathways in the brain like i was

00:34:45.940 like i was like doing a perfect plank yeah in my in my mind like seeing what

00:34:51.140 it feels like we've talked about that crazy that netflix documentary heal

00:34:54.460 where the guy had the horrific spinal cord injury and then he rebuilt his spine

00:34:58.800 mentally and every night he would do like the surgery on himself

00:35:02.460 That's Joe Dispenza.

00:35:03.900 Are you serious?

00:35:04.420 Dr. Joe Dispenza.

00:35:05.360 You're kidding.

00:35:05.720 That's him, yeah.

00:35:06.740 He did the self-spine surgery?

00:35:10.100 Yes.

00:35:10.740 No.

00:35:11.480 I got to rewatch Heal.

00:35:13.240 Yeah, no, it's him.

00:35:15.820 It's him.

00:35:16.360 And then every night, if he falls asleep, because it would take hours and hours, two hours in, let's say he falls asleep doing the mental surgery, he has to start over again.

00:35:24.680 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:35:25.440 Holy shit. 0.99

00:35:25.780 Because I think he couldn't move and he had like a couple weeks and they were like, we're going to put a rod in your spine. 1.00

00:35:31.500 Oh, my God.

00:35:32.220 And he's like, all right, well, I'm just lying here, unable to move.

00:35:35.940 Might as well, you know, do this mental.

00:35:42.340 There's also like one of the things he talks about is this study where they, you know,

00:35:46.520 I mean, they have this studies like this just going back to the forever at this point.

00:35:52.860 It's like getting embarrassing.

00:35:54.520 You know, it's like one group practices like this basic piano exercise, you know, like C, E, G.

00:36:02.220 you know whatever

00:36:03.320 this other group

00:36:04.880 like spends the same amount of time

00:36:07.500 mentally imagining that they're doing it

00:36:10.140 and

00:36:11.240 like the mental group

00:36:14.100 like is better 0.58

00:36:15.760 I forget

00:36:16.280 the ones that actually practice

00:36:18.180 and like muscle strength

00:36:20.120 in the fingers developed

00:36:21.440 all in the mind

00:36:22.180 do you hear me?

00:36:23.540 that's crazy

00:36:24.060 the actual muscle fibers

00:36:25.260 I believe it 0.98

00:36:26.020 it's fucking crazy 0.92

00:36:26.920 it's all there 0.98

00:36:28.600 so you just gotta

00:36:29.140 you gotta grow cash

00:36:30.480 you gotta grow cash

00:36:31.360 lying there

00:36:32.220 Every time you like, I mean, that's one way for me to go, okay, I'm inspired to get in bed.

00:36:37.080 Like, you know, like, oh, it'll be fun.

00:36:40.180 I'll soar through my consciousness.

00:36:41.820 That's cool.

00:36:42.460 And I start by, I also really into like my own body scans where I imagine like dragging my hand through the energy field of my foot and seeing if I hit anything.

00:36:53.440 like kind of like

00:36:54.980 so I'll be like

00:36:56.700 I'll feel like

00:36:57.780 oh I just hit like a rock

00:36:58.880 like in my heel

00:36:59.940 and I'll sort of grab it

00:37:00.880 and hold it

00:37:01.860 and pull it out

00:37:02.580 whoa

00:37:03.280 fill it in with light

00:37:04.460 see what happens

00:37:05.160 unbelievable

00:37:05.760 yeah always filling the body

00:37:07.180 with light

00:37:07.620 if possible

00:37:08.220 trying to think of a

00:37:13.380 of a topic

00:37:14.980 did you want to talk about

00:37:16.600 because you said it

00:37:17.320 you probably don't

00:37:18.320 what

00:37:18.660 but you did say it

00:37:19.840 like live

00:37:20.400 to me

00:37:20.940 I mean in person

00:37:21.600 you were like

00:37:22.140 talk about

00:37:22.880 when you were distracted?

00:37:24.700 Oh yeah, no, let's talk about it.

00:37:26.000 Because I actually wanted to know,

00:37:27.440 I wanted to know what you thought was going on

00:37:29.500 because what happened was that I was doing a Q&A.

00:37:32.820 I was in the audience.

00:37:33.900 I was asked a question and I 100% wasn't listening.

00:37:37.580 And I think you were asked the first question

00:37:39.100 by the moderator.

00:37:39.860 Yeah, which is scary.

00:37:40.800 It was the first question was right to you.

00:37:42.560 And I, I can't describe it.

00:37:45.740 I just realized as she was halfway,

00:37:48.400 I just heard the sounds and then I heard him,

00:37:50.420 like a question sound.

00:37:51.500 And I was like, oh no, she's done.

00:37:52.880 and eyes on you. And I, and I hadn't metabolized what was said. And then it was like, I wasn't,

00:37:59.440 it wasn't like I was anxious or having anxiety, but I did realize like, oh my God, is this like

00:38:05.160 the moment where, cause I felt the thing where I was looking around and everyone's looking at me,

00:38:08.880 everyone's dead quiet, obviously waiting for my answer. And I was like, it was a little

00:38:13.160 anxiety provoking. Cause I just didn't know. And I could, and I couldn't go, can you repeat the

00:38:18.500 question. Actually, I guess I could have, but I got in a laugh. And to be clear to all the

00:38:24.400 listeners, it was fine. I recovered. But did you, I want to know about you, what you saw as my

00:38:30.140 recovery. I want to know about it from your eyes. Yes, totally. But I have more questions first.

00:38:34.380 Were you nervous for me? Was it like, oh no, she's like panicked? No. Okay, great. Thank God.

00:38:39.040 Because I wasn't panicked. It was more just like, I felt embarrassed. No one ever has to be nervous

00:38:43.260 for Caperland. I'm serious. Okay. You've got it. Wow. In part because you have correctly presented

00:38:53.120 yourself in such a way that it's all, it all makes sense. You have not pushed some narrow

00:38:59.040 party version of yourself. Then the real self is slipping through and it's a problem. You know,

00:39:04.960 it's like you have a kind of inherent confidence, you know, whatever that means. But like,

00:39:11.340 I don't know you're interesting okay but but wait I've but my question first to understand is

00:39:16.900 I'm sitting there it's a Q&A and you're up with a bunch of other people and did you space in

00:39:25.580 like first like it was like Kate you know the first question's for you okay where you're like

00:39:31.100 oh first question's for me and then you kind of went away and then we're like oh wait suddenly

00:39:36.740 i'm realizing i'm at the end of a question and i totally it's based or had you never noticed the

00:39:41.960 question was directed at you until kind of like i knew the question was directed at me i definitely

00:39:46.300 i knew she was asking you went away during my question i went away during the question yeah

00:39:50.600 what i witnessed was a kind of the kind of like like you were kind of like um like your eyes

00:39:58.120 you didn't startle you didn't do anything like that you kind of eyes sort of glancing head kind

00:40:03.460 looking around like like i'm sorry um like it was very casual and confident like you're like

00:40:09.600 like i'm sorry this is like probably completely like like i don't know what you said but like

00:40:14.400 almost like it'd be like it's really like quite outrageous but i actually sort of lost there and

00:40:19.960 didn't really hear or something like you kind of just said it like immediately admitted i mean it 0.99

00:40:24.720 was it was phenomenal it was to me it was impressive it was like damn damn is she comfortable 0.99

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00:41:01.620 So no, I am not your guru.

00:41:05.640 And back then, I lied to my parents, I lied to police, I lied to everybody.

00:41:10.500 There were years, Ryder, where I could not say your name.

00:41:13.480 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California, interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists, whomever I can, to try to find out what actually happened.

00:41:22.320 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend?

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00:44:18.780 I will say I'm rabid for our next dinner.

00:44:22.180 Get it on the books.

00:44:22.780 Oh God, I know. 1.00

00:44:23.880 Let's get it on the fucking books. 1.00

00:44:25.440 I can't wait. 1.00

00:44:25.860 I want it.

00:44:26.980 I was just cackling on home.

00:44:30.020 I brought home the energy of dinner, you know, the great mood.

00:44:33.400 Oh yeah.

00:44:34.340 I came tumbling into the house.

00:44:35.820 I was high too, high as a kite.

00:44:37.680 Just soaring.

00:44:39.560 Actually stopped at CVS, as you know, that was cute.

00:44:42.720 I called my mother on the way home, soaring.

00:44:45.140 Oh really?

00:44:46.080 Yeah.

00:44:46.340 Yeah, I'm dying for more of that

00:44:48.940 I wonder if

00:44:50.080 I'm going to get the schnitzel next time

00:44:51.920 Yeah

00:44:52.660 You've been fixated

00:44:56.360 On the chicken schnitzel

00:44:57.460 While not ordering it

00:44:58.520 You just keep saying the word like schnitzel

00:45:00.640 What is it about that?

00:45:03.400 Is that pounded?

00:45:04.540 Yeah, it's pounded

00:45:05.360 I always forget

00:45:05.600 You know, the classic is the veal schnitzel

00:45:07.460 Of course, that which cannot be uttered

00:45:09.980 Chicken schnitzel

00:45:11.620 Pounded to smithereens

00:45:13.740 Breaded, fried

00:45:15.080 I wonder if the Aleve is already working

00:45:21.800 Already taking hold

00:45:22.820 I am

00:45:24.980 I'm going to Raff's next week

00:45:28.160 Reservation booked

00:45:30.440 Can't wait

00:45:31.600 Did you sort of say hey it's me?

00:45:34.840 Of course

00:45:35.260 A thrill

00:45:37.560 An absolute thrill

00:45:39.260 What do you eat at a midday meal at home?

00:45:43.060 Midday meal

00:45:43.880 When there's still things to be done.

00:45:45.360 It's hard.

00:45:46.780 Still things to be done.

00:45:48.280 A hearty soup.

00:45:49.100 Two eggs and a soup.

00:45:50.280 Yeah, I do.

00:45:51.040 A lot of times I'm doing, I have the Siete tortillas in the fridge.

00:45:56.360 And I'm doing Siete.

00:45:57.940 They could send us some new items or at least me.

00:46:00.140 I don't know if you do that, but I do Siete.

00:46:02.340 Tortillas are welcome in my home.

00:46:03.400 No, I had an issue with some kind of nut thing.

00:46:05.800 Kasava. 1.00

00:46:06.320 With some of their stuff.

00:46:07.060 Kasava.

00:46:07.420 So I had to.

00:46:08.860 But I'll do scrambled eggs, two eggs, beat them up, salt, pepper.

00:46:13.880 Scrambled with some avocado oil.

00:46:16.180 Really simple.

00:46:17.260 Sometimes I'll put some parm in there.

00:46:18.760 A little pasture-raised, raw, organic cheddar.

00:46:24.000 And then in the Siete tortilla, chili crisp or whatever on top.

00:46:30.900 Oh, yeah.

00:46:31.740 Delicious.

00:46:32.280 Avocado chopped up on the side with some vinegar.

00:46:34.260 Do you have a chili crisp standard?

00:46:37.960 The Momofuku reigns supreme still.

00:46:40.100 Yeah.

00:46:40.760 But I explore others.

00:46:42.840 You know, there are three seasoning trios huge for me.

00:46:48.040 It's a huge and it's a great gift, folks.

00:46:50.300 Oh, yeah.

00:46:51.840 That's a gift.

00:46:52.880 It's a simple gift.

00:46:54.120 Yeah, I got that for some people.

00:46:56.300 I think it's off the website. 0.99

00:46:57.920 They used to fucking... 0.99

00:46:59.240 Oh, that's the flyby Jane. 0.99

00:47:02.620 Probably, I'm bastardizing the way I'm saying it,

00:47:05.080 but they used to have frozen dumplings you could get in a big pack.

00:47:10.220 They were amazing.

00:47:11.280 Drop them in.

00:47:11.900 drop them right in

00:47:13.340 wouldn't it be horrible if food was

00:47:15.440 only something the body

00:47:17.980 needed monthly

00:47:18.840 yeah one meal

00:47:21.440 a month

00:47:22.460 I still think as we know

00:47:27.580 meat should be eliminated

00:47:28.920 we could have the world

00:47:30.960 if meat once a weekend or once a month

00:47:33.900 you do a meat festival

00:47:35.480 the third Saturday of every month

00:47:37.180 and then you're plant based the rest of the

00:47:39.600 time and then we can

00:47:41.700 still live on the planet look at me in my perfect plan let's try astral projecting again we talked

00:47:48.140 about it ages ago i'd really like to get it going okay we could meet on the astral plane and then

00:47:52.380 we can explore things together i read about this these teenage girls used to meet each other in

00:47:55.940 the astral plane one would come and and grab the other one like wake up come on so cool so i'd like

00:48:02.520 you to intend that okay okay tonight for night's sleep yeah we'll start tonight i i never dream

00:48:08.120 about you why trying to think if i dream about you probably i'm sure you've been in my dream but i

00:48:15.740 yeah jacqueline was there so-and-so was there but they weren't yeah they weren't they weren't

00:48:23.220 all right i'm gonna really by the way i'm making i have to pump up the poog instagram we got to get

00:48:28.260 the youth we got to go i think we got to do so much tick tock right in there we have so much

00:48:33.420 we should be on TikTok

00:48:34.320 that we send to each other

00:48:35.420 not to them

00:48:36.140 we gotta get smart

00:48:37.200 yeah

00:48:37.760 maybe

00:48:38.060 we gotta get smart

00:48:40.080 we gotta get young

00:48:40.800 we gotta get Zilla Neal 0.97

00:48:41.920 on it

00:48:42.620 well I will say

00:48:45.480 that being wrapped

00:48:46.040 in a blanket

00:48:46.460 was interesting

00:48:47.160 I might do an afternoon

00:48:48.480 matcha

00:48:48.960 again the magic mind

00:48:50.060 oh yeah

00:48:51.140 did it yesterday

00:48:51.500 did the day before

00:48:51.940 I'm about to take some

00:48:52.700 I consider taking it before

00:48:53.760 I didn't know if I wanted

00:48:54.660 to waste it

00:48:55.380 I might do it

00:48:58.740 I'm gonna do one later

00:48:59.620 to get me through

00:49:00.300 my 4.30 business meeting

00:49:01.880 oh my god

00:49:03.200 adult business. I know my blouse. Yeah. Beautiful. My business blouse. I think you wore that to

00:49:08.600 dinner, didn't you? Oh my God. I did. Yeah. We have to post on Pook Instagram what we wore to

00:49:13.620 dinner. I wore a very, cause I was really rushing. I wanted to like take a bath and really anoint

00:49:18.120 myself with rare oils and get ready for a sexy dinner. But I was rushing. I had maybe 15 minutes

00:49:23.220 to get ready. I did a vintage Levi's with a Marion Park sexy boot and a Buck Mason black

00:49:33.780 blouse with a gentle beat. With a gentle what? Beat on my face. Jacqueline looked very put

00:49:41.140 together. Beat? Beat, Jacqueline. I don't know what you're saying. It's what the kids

00:49:46.760 call when you do makeup oh on your face on my face okay i wore a black pant and a top a white

00:49:58.360 top from page who sent it just some black trousers i thought it was a bit business-like

00:50:03.620 um and a boot i had even less time to get ready you looked great um i wore an einstein's underscore

00:50:12.140 or NYC snail gold bracelet featuring a large snail.

00:50:19.500 And I just like a bracelet when holding a martini glass.

00:50:22.840 What can I say? 1.00

00:50:24.180 A coop?

00:50:25.560 Hair just pulled into a high pony.

00:50:28.380 You look exceptional.

00:50:30.100 Thank you.

00:50:31.560 You looked beautiful.

00:50:32.240 You looked approximately 15 years younger than you are.

00:50:35.880 Thanks.

00:50:38.260 It's always weird when someone goes like,

00:50:39.920 you don't look a day over end. 1.00

00:50:41.600 it's like it's like bitch i was hoping to look even younger yeah yeah yeah hey hey how about 1.00

00:50:48.000 compliment with no specifics because they're a danger unless they are so hyperbolic as to be 1.00

00:50:53.780 offensive yeah um okay love you love you

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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - April 02, 2024

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