Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - Smile Toward The Sun

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00:02:35.460 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.

00:02:36.940 I'm Jacqueline Novak.

00:02:38.020 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.

00:02:42.800 Two untamable intellects.

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00:02:48.520 This is POOG.

00:02:49.940 Today's topic, loosely speaking.

00:02:51.360 sea creature bruschetta straw

00:02:55.100 so how's rome

00:03:02.260 everything you could have dreamed

00:03:06.240 tell me oh my god i've gotten exactly one photo of a piece of pizza

00:03:13.860 no then i followed up you said more and then i followed up with a couple pastas oh that's true

00:03:18.760 From, how do you say, raggioli, salumeria, I cannot lock in on the accents.

00:03:28.580 I mean, which part of the word, the things, trasteveri.

00:03:36.020 Okay.

00:03:36.980 Sorry, Jacqueline.

00:03:37.760 I'm not reacting properly because it's really choppy.

00:03:40.660 It's really choppy.

00:03:41.100 Again?

00:03:43.540 Again?

00:03:44.520 Yeah.

00:03:44.740 I'm wondering if perhaps it was just my own disfluency that you were experiencing.

00:03:51.220 Could it be?

00:03:52.240 No.

00:03:52.460 It's choppy the way you express yourself.

00:03:54.480 No.

00:03:54.680 You know, that sort of thing.

00:03:56.980 No.

00:03:57.640 No.

00:03:58.680 No.

00:03:59.840 Here, I have a fun idea.

00:04:02.560 The second you hear me say the word that refers to a sea creature, I want you to throw your 1.00

00:04:09.680 fucking hand up and say, aye, aye. 1.00

00:04:13.000 and that's our experiment are you ready 1.00

00:04:15.180 you ready for it okay I'll wait

00:04:17.420 till you know okay the second

00:04:19.140 you're paying attention right

00:04:20.180 the second I say a sea creature

00:04:23.300 you're gonna go I

00:04:24.400 okay you ready

00:04:27.040 octopus

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00:04:32.980 hi

00:04:38.060 hi

00:04:38.800 you did that immediately you're telling me

00:04:42.000 this is absurd yes why don't we just do two separate monologues you go first talk for a half

00:04:50.860 hour no i can't do that talk for a half an hour no i certainly could

00:05:03.680 why don't you why don't why don't you go just have a big rope why how about it's just how

00:05:10.860 about this episode is just jacqueline the rome diaries okay you can give it a shot why don't you

00:05:17.060 just talk and then i'll listen and then i'll eventually respond well right right i could

00:05:24.500 talk for like five minutes and then you respond for like five minutes why don't we do this as

00:05:29.580 letters this will actually work we'll do it as letters i'm gonna send you an audio letter right

00:05:35.760 now you ready for it and then you'll respond in full that way we'll only have to deal with the

00:05:39.440 delay once or you know a couple times dear kate here i am in rome you know back in the day gals

00:05:51.100 used to write each other letters much like this and um you know the closest experience i've had

00:05:56.720 to it in recent years was marco polo right uh just to be able to speak uninhibited or uh without

00:06:03.460 having to worry about, oh, do I have to let them say something now? Here I am in Rome. I am in my

00:06:11.880 Airbnb. It's everything, everything you could dream of. It has black and white tiled floors.

00:06:18.360 It has a small low to the ground couch and a second chair and a kind of brocade.

00:06:25.080 There is a terrace. I have washed my laundry and hung it out there on clips.

00:06:30.440 i have been making espresso in the mornings not unusual but to do it here in roma has a different

00:06:37.940 quality uh the things i've eaten last night i had some kind of white rabbit ragu i had a a um

00:06:45.280 a pasta with um with uh okay so that yes so that was a ragu a white rabbit ragu over the pasta i

00:06:51.760 had a cacio pepe with a truffle i had a something with a with a what's the word um calamari

00:07:00.080 and the gumberry I had a bruschetta you bruschetta bruschetta you okay yeah and you heard me it's

00:07:11.440 bruschetta okay with a hard cup and Chris and I discussed it on the way over to the restaurant

00:07:18.140 and I said okay well I want it there's this bruschetta on the menu with these sardines the

00:07:23.660 alisi and the cheese and I'm going to want to get it and I'm afraid because I've been told years

00:07:30.440 ago by my friend Laura that it's actually bruschetta or bruschetta okay despite the

00:07:35.780 Americans pushing the bruschetta angle for some time in the late 90s and so I waited for I pointed

00:07:41.980 I waited for the glorious server oh this woman she was a dream I walked by in the evening I said

00:07:48.300 I want to dine here I had read about it and she said um there was a book I'll say it that way

00:07:54.980 there was a humongous book I had to come back the next day I had to walk over oh you know bother

00:07:59.320 someone say anyway I can get a reservation it was impossible online etc and they just pull out a

00:08:04.640 huge tome and in goes my name and over do I go last night I had an aperitivo I had a um a classic

00:08:12.680 Aperol Spritz last night at a place that is literally referenced in Eat, Pray, Love. You

00:08:19.100 heard me. Okay. Uh, no, I've not seen the film. I read the book. That's all I'll say. And I had

00:08:26.920 that, I had a Negroni with dinner. And as you know, as I've said in the past, I couldn't get,

00:08:31.980 get myself into Negroni while in the States. However, here it makes perfect sense. 0.87

00:08:38.240 all right i'll let you respond to that meal first okay i mean if you want i have more to say

00:08:47.040 um okay i'll try to say something hearing you talk about first of all i'm astonished that you

00:08:54.160 haven't seen eat pray love you read the book you say the movie is a fairly important cultural

00:09:02.700 artifact i haven't watched it in years there's a real there's a scene that always confused me

00:09:09.440 i actually almost have no trouble normally i'm very terrified at spoiling things but for some

00:09:15.560 reason this is what this is what stands out for me is there's a scene between julia i'm just gonna

00:09:21.920 tell you it's it's completely fine it's a minor detail um i read the book go for it i'm not

00:09:27.860 worried about things i know what happens okay so peter friedman are you aware the the well no it's 0.98

00:09:33.920 not peter friedman jesus fucking christ it's um oh my god kill me right now an actor hang on hang 0.97

00:09:40.140 on how dare i yes i'm absolutely beside myself let's just say he's the elder ghost dad on six 0.99

00:09:53.120 feet under and his name is escaping me oh jacqueline oh um no no no no richard jenkins

00:10:01.620 jesus no yeah and i'm humiliated that i even hesitated for a second because okay richard

00:10:10.720 jenkins when someone else says they can't remember something and then they they say they've set you

00:10:16.320 up to not be able to remember it then it's hard to remember actually ran into this yesterday i'll

00:10:20.280 tell you about it after so richard jenkins plays someone that julia roberts meets at an ashram

00:10:26.680 and he's this you know lovable character who's there who's giving her tips

00:10:32.300 he mocks her for eating too much when she arrives because she's coming from rome

00:10:37.180 where she's used to devouring plates of pasta and entire pizzas imagine and squeezing into her jeans

00:10:45.320 and all this and there's a scene i'm building this up so much and it's whatever um there's a

00:10:53.220 scene where that actually is acting wise i'm like okay yeah where she's like why are you here to him

00:11:00.020 and he's like well and proceeds to tell her her this you know his origin story of you know or what

00:11:08.280 happened to him right what trauma led and led him there which is him talking about being a drunk 0.98

00:11:11.860 and being like a shit dad and there's this big scene where he's like my son was playing in the 0.98

00:11:17.360 driveway with toys i was drunk and i got in my car and i wanted to hightail it out of there and 0.99

00:11:24.840 you see her start it's really good julia work okay you see julia kind of go like wow i gotta see it

00:11:30.740 puts her hand to her mouth she's like oh my god and us the viewer going he ran over his child

00:11:36.120 right right which is like and that's what you know that's that's the most to to kill your kid

00:11:44.640 because you're drunk is like the most unimaginable horror so anyway he doesn't kill him he goes he

00:11:50.920 got out of the way they're going this whole thing and he goes he got out of the way

00:11:54.180 just in time no and that and as a viewer you're like what so i have a i have a theory which is

00:12:05.200 that they that he did die not reshoot but they're like let's do one where you didn't kill him yeah

00:12:11.120 because the correct scene is i ran over my son and that is drama that is why we go to the theater

00:12:16.820 that is why we watch the shadows cast on the wall to to play out the most horrifying and you know 0.94

00:12:23.480 it's not drama that's comedy and it's not fucking drama it's comedy his kid got out of the way yeah 0.96

00:12:30.600 and he goes 0.96

00:12:32.420 close call

00:12:33.520 it's like

00:12:35.080 what

00:12:35.680 so they had to have

00:12:36.980 shot the scene

00:12:37.840 where he says 1.00

00:12:38.420 and I killed him 1.00

00:12:39.040 and I crushed his skull 1.00

00:12:40.020 and then they went 0.82

00:12:41.320 you know what

00:12:41.780 that's a little much

00:12:43.180 we want to get families

00:12:44.060 in here

00:12:44.420 and get some

00:12:45.300 you know our base 0.91

00:12:46.880 our mothers

00:12:47.560 yes 1.00

00:12:48.840 the mothers will not

00:12:49.980 tolerate 0.91

00:12:50.420 anyway

00:12:52.600 that is just

00:12:53.660 that's a scene

00:12:54.500 in that movie

00:12:55.020 that always

00:12:55.720 just really

00:12:56.620 sticks out

00:12:57.380 I gotta look up

00:12:58.280 the budget for that movie

00:12:59.220 on my own time

00:12:59.920 It should be, it could be important to revisit it for my own, for all of our own reasons.

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00:15:18.140 the red weather it was many and many a year ago in a kingdom by the sea in 1995 my neighbor

00:15:26.340 and a trainer disappeared from a commune it was hard to wrap your head around it was

00:15:30.140 nature and trees and praying and drugs no i am not your guru and back then i lied to my parents

00:15:39.620 i lied to police i lied to everybody there were years right where i could not say your name i've

00:15:45.400 decided to go back to my hometown in northern california interview my friends family talk to

00:15:49.560 police journalists whomever i can to try to find out what actually happened isn't it a little bit

00:15:54.900 weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend they have had this

00:15:59.480 case for 30 years i'll teach you sons of to come around here and my wife boom boom this is the red

00:16:07.020 weather listen to the red weather on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your

00:16:13.560 podcasts the more you listen to your kids the closer you'll be so we asked kids what do you

00:16:21.840 want your parents to hear i feel sometimes that i'm not listened to i would just want you to

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00:17:20.640 Cachoe Pepe with Truffle.

00:17:22.820 Wow.

00:17:23.860 Cachoe Pepe is something that is,

00:17:27.100 I loved it for so long.

00:17:30.180 It became, it rose in popular culture.

00:17:34.400 And I was, who was I with?

00:17:35.840 Was I with John?

00:17:36.680 or maybe i even just heard him retelling this he was at a restaurant i think he was at a restaurant

00:17:41.280 and was like oh the cacio pepe and the weight and the and the server said it's kind of like

00:17:48.500 adult mac and cheese yeah which is one of the most crass well the fact that i've ever heard

00:17:56.300 first of all john okay i have a lot to say may i go john john prides himself

00:18:05.840 on the preparation of the cacio so i cannot help but wonder for one if somehow that server

00:18:15.600 said that before john was able to communicate how you know deeply aware and familiar with

00:18:21.560 with the cacio switch to cacio as i sort of was cacioing it up over here you know like some

00:18:27.360 tucson fool okay but so i get the horror and obviously the kind of mac and cheese

00:18:37.720 adult mac and cheese the the point is back in the states pacio isn't the thing i order 0.87

00:18:46.100 the most okay i'm like yeah i know you know what i mean like to me it is a little i want

00:18:53.780 I want acidic. I want Amatriciana. Okay. Okay. At all costs. Nightly. I've struggled. I continually

00:19:03.660 come back to Amatriciana. That sort of thing. But last night at this particular place called

00:19:12.820 Giulio Passimi L'Oleo, I think, they said that the cacio with the truffle was an important dish

00:19:21.280 at their restaurant specifically and I gave myself over to the server and said you know what should

00:19:29.060 what should we get and but we arrived you know it's on a chalkboard up on the wall you could

00:19:32.620 barely read it it's so small there's so much of them this is not a comical chalkboard I mean this

00:19:36.560 is a real serious chalkboard and god it was good I mean when the bruschetta arrived just

00:19:43.900 just a piece of just bread toasted it was so it was so good I'm sorry I'm just I haven't eaten

00:19:52.160 yet today I'm doing my essentially intermittent fasting while in order to get work done and so

00:19:58.400 I cannot eat the first couple days we're here it was like lunch and then the panino

00:20:06.140 the panini and then immediate nap okay and the whole thing I wasn't getting any of the writing

00:20:11.740 i came here to do done so we had to pull it back and go espresso all day and then all night we dine

00:20:20.540 i was like okay well it might have to be two dinners and then it's like great and that's what

00:20:25.420 we'll do but rajoli uh solo maria was really spectacular as well

00:20:34.540 anyway i got i got lost you see i do require you to tether me i'm very excited to

00:20:42.700 one day we should go i mean i think well my question is was the caccio as good as you hoped

00:20:52.420 yeah except i still think there's a simplicity to the caccio and so it it's like to me

00:21:03.600 i mean i was in ecstasy but i i i tend to yearn for the acidic something cutting through and so

00:21:12.200 it had to be balanced by these other pastas

00:21:15.440 yeah i mean that to me um and then i'm trying to think what did we oh we got oh at the other one

00:21:25.960 we got this um anchovy pasta that was unbelievable um I ran to this blog to figure out what to order

00:21:34.460 in a pinch and it was just in this semi-dried semi-dried tomatoes uh with the burrata and

00:21:41.060 oh but then what I was going to say is that I looked up when I came here I thought all right

00:21:45.900 and so I looked up a facialist of some kind I wanted to have an experience and so and I found

00:21:52.640 this woman simona primavera of her site it's called spring touch and i didn't need a facial

00:22:01.000 while here but i was like it'd be nice to have some some kind of experience if there's something

00:22:05.840 special and then i found her and she has she has a complete she studied in japan from this under

00:22:12.300 this this teacher and it's a whole kind of she in her words plays piano okay and i went this morning

00:22:18.200 and it was an absolute healing ecstasy scenario it was breath work it was gentle stretching it

00:22:26.580 was full piano fingers all over me it was it was it was she only has four clients a day are you

00:22:31.900 ready for this you're gonna die I was I woke up late I overslept she snuck me in and I over 0.95

00:22:37.640 fucking slept I woke up and I was so humiliated I almost thought of just leaving the country kind 0.98

00:22:42.900 of thing like but you know just like never saying anything like hoping she would think I was had 0.99

00:22:47.500 died and I was like face the music if you're comfortable with her hating you for ghosting

00:22:53.620 right which is essentially what it would have been then why aren't you comfortable with her

00:22:57.780 hating you for talent like telling what happened which is that you overslept why do I think

00:23:02.200 one is better than the other so I sent her the message via whatsapp and I said I overslept

00:23:08.720 and she said my next client isn't till noon there's still time if you catch a taxi and I did

00:23:16.700 actually i didn't catch a taxi i failed to so then i decided to walk i walk across a bridge i'm going

00:23:22.480 i'm going i'm sending her screenshots of my google maps going and now i'm on foot the taxi didn't come

00:23:27.340 okay but i'm 10 minutes away nine minutes away and she just goes again i'm just thinking about

00:23:31.820 how she must just whatever and then and then i get a i get a message back walk slowly and smile

00:23:38.280 to the sun okay can you believe and i get there unbelievable i get there it's a tatami mat

00:23:48.180 jess if i've been to japan i say no we she is a dream simon simona primavera okay and i'm going

00:23:55.840 to post pictures i posted a picture it was it was a healing session it was completely on a different

00:24:00.420 level it was very very special and i was like i will come back to rome wow for her

00:24:07.820 how long was it an hour wow i had a facial at a lot of the hags wrote in suggesting facialists

00:24:20.220 which i appreciate i got a microcurrent facial at rescue spa which is funnily someone sent a

00:24:27.240 message saying that someone is like the Michelangelo of microcurrent I think a sculptor

00:24:32.860 what of microcurrent and I was like about a New York facial I thought I saw something an email

00:24:37.880 or something anyway I was wondering if that's who it was but go on okay I have to find out who that

00:24:43.300 is but the point is it was really nice and she did I had never had so much facial massage in 0.62

00:24:50.060 my life like the beating of the yes beating of the cheekbones yes and damn I couldn't believe

00:24:56.880 it because I didn't get any kind of exfoliant I didn't get an exfoliating mask or I asked her not

00:25:03.580 to do extractions because I'm not broken out and I you know I'm doing this show or my so I just my

00:25:10.320 face is like I can't have my skin I has to I can't do crazy extractions and be like healing

00:25:16.600 anyway my skin was so soft I couldn't understand it's like oh it's from her beating my face and

00:25:23.900 I'm going to get I'm finally gonna get to face gym in a couple weeks and do a cryo facial yes 0.96

00:25:31.420 where they like sculpt and lift yes goddamn face and I have been in New York for a few weeks now 0.97

00:25:38.960 and I'm realizing aging rapidly due to walking more than I ever walk in LA with the sun beating 0.98

00:25:45.240 down on me of course I'm wearing sunscreen but I swear to god three horizontal lines have suddenly

00:25:51.300 appeared on my forehead um and I'm terrified to say the least and my shoulders are slightly bronzed

00:25:58.460 and of course I love it it makes me sexual to see the bronze hue appearing on the shoulder but 0.96

00:26:08.960 immediately i feel like i've sinned well but also fuck it smile toward the sun like come on 0.98

00:26:18.200 smile toward the sun although she did also tell me spf always which but not as a reaction to my 0.98

00:26:24.700 face i was i told her and she said absolutely um and i've been a little sloppy as well

00:26:31.720 but the wrinkle you described three wrinkles across the forehead to me doesn't sound explicitly

00:26:37.740 like sun damage it sounds a little bit more like repetitive movements which i think if nightly on

00:26:44.840 stage you are performing yeah the clown you are going hardcore with you're going hard with the

00:26:51.000 expressions oh i know i mean when i go hard with the expressions you know when i let the um when i

00:26:57.020 let it through me when when the body becomes an instrument for expression i mean yeah there's

00:27:04.040 going to be lines so that's why i think you know the the uh massage is key and and god bless

00:27:11.720 you're so right and that is true i mean the show i'm doing is in many ways a clown show

00:27:19.600 and so of course my face has been pulled and pushed into clown-like expression

00:27:26.320 yeah for hours all week so there it is and that's fine great privilege and enjoy

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00:31:49.160 You know, I was thinking about it as I was lying there. 0.99

00:31:51.320 I was going, fuck the skin. 1.00

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00:31:59.660 I mean the muscular structure and the bones and the fat, okay?

00:32:03.100 it's what's underneath that counts the spirit the soul no the fascia 0.96

00:32:11.340 but i just think i think so that she was beating me and she was you know surprise 0.98

00:32:18.800 surprise getting into the jaw where of course i was holding the tension and 0.94

00:32:22.840 there was a lot of exhaling it was unbelievable simona primavera and the entire anyway i was just

00:32:32.380 i was really taken with her and i'm very excited about it but yeah new york through those streets

00:32:39.700 and i do feel that you really have to hydrate when you're in new york i mean topically

00:32:46.920 okay i really have to you come home at night you massage the face you do an oil cleanser

00:32:56.440 and then you you exfoliate you do the whole thing and you need to do seven layers of korean

00:33:02.700 skincare and you'll wake up in the morning restored okay wow okay thank you if you want

00:33:10.200 to keep your instrument supple but for the next show well i'm also guess what i want a humidifier

00:33:20.280 desperately i have a fully packaged canopy you need it in los angeles do i just buy one or hello

00:33:27.660 canopy can you send me another one i think so well i think that you know you mentioned uh

00:33:35.960 so i lost my voice at one point doing my show in new york i got sick and i had oh my god oh my god

00:33:43.640 i'm breaking breaking news breaking news breaking news breaking news breaking news i had my first

00:33:48.720 voice lesson of my life yesterday from a juilliard professor and she brought me and i have a little 0.88

00:33:55.080 juilliard folder now in my backstage area so it looks like i did go to fucking juilliard tell me 0.63

00:34:01.240 what she taught you because when i lost my voice there was talk of i had to connect with these 0.90

00:34:07.620 during my show okay i'm a performer now i perform nightly okay i'm you know i have to take care of

00:34:14.000 my voice and so i was like i have to start using it i can't just push push push right we have to

00:34:19.480 so so what it was was that part of this was that part of this and therefore teach me now

00:34:24.920 i want it now yes okay teach me there's a whole thing i'm doing now all right teach me the straw

00:34:31.660 and water and you go you blow bubbles and you you know so like that

00:34:36.840 oh and what does it do are you but you need what's the goal

00:34:43.920 it was it's good for your vocal cords okay mostly no clue but it's good for your vocal cords

00:34:52.300 and i did all these like 0.80

00:34:54.320 like i did all this shit yeah and then it's true after and then it's like 0.92

00:35:00.320 involves the body too and then after right my instrument felt supple i felt open 0.98

00:35:07.040 Wow.

00:35:07.380 I mean, I don't know how else to tell you.

00:35:09.400 Oh, but what I was going to say was,

00:35:11.480 to protect the voice when you're performing nightly,

00:35:14.100 you must humidify.

00:35:17.740 I feel.

00:35:19.640 Yeah.

00:35:21.080 If you're asleep, you know how if you don't humidify,

00:35:23.800 you wake up dry?

00:35:24.940 Yep.

00:35:25.500 Not to mention AC, all of it.

00:35:27.820 Yeah, you have to.

00:35:28.800 You have to.

00:35:29.440 Now, I would take steams in the morning, as you know,

00:35:32.080 crouch on the bottom of the shower and just inhale.

00:35:35.140 inhale but yeah keep those I got some some things I got these things that went direct into the nose

00:35:41.020 you could also use like your Dr. Dennis Gross humidifier direct into the nose

00:35:47.100 are you emailing now because I feel like with the delay it might be like I made a note no I

00:35:56.000 I made I um there's something she said I forget what it's called but it's like a

00:36:00.940 hand steamer that i have to get to steam yeah there was something very small that came with

00:36:07.100 specific capsules that i got at that time like four different steamers and i did the research

00:36:13.080 the deep dives the strategist and and beyond and by the way i'm headed to naples i will say

00:36:19.660 i am open to rex i'm headed to naples i'm extending my trip when next week and

00:36:29.640 amazing it's going to be ecstasy i continue to pray for a for new york pass through

00:36:37.980 i know oh i know i mean i i i should hope so let's just say i'm going to take you

00:36:45.300 i'm going to take you out on the town and you're going to be on the floor on the floor at the end

00:36:52.340 of the night screaming for mercy because of the how happy you are oh i know i mean you don't have

00:36:59.160 sell me on you oh but i i there's some places like i i said there's been a couple discoveries

00:37:09.760 a couple a couple suggestions of places that i would like us to be able to go one was in

00:37:17.100 i don't know if it was iceland or greenland or something like that but there was something that

00:37:22.800 i was like we need to get there it's the gold it's the it's the white whale

00:37:26.680 let's go so if the listener is unaware due to edits let me say now Kate and I have recorded

00:37:38.060 with an absolutely intrusive delay of a good 9 to 13 seconds sometimes longer sometimes shorter

00:37:45.360 so the fact that there's anything being recorded at all right now the listener should

00:37:53.780 a miracle be i don't even know what the word is i'm so i'm loving rome i'm loving the food

00:38:04.020 i'm in heaven i'm being fairly productive writing during the day i don't know what else to say

00:38:10.340 folks i'm headed to naples simona primavera it's incredible and if you if i hear you saying that

00:38:17.420 you're being fairly productive i know that means that you're being very productive well perhaps

00:38:23.760 never as much never enough but I actually was slightly healed of some of those concerns during

00:38:28.520 my piano facial I remembered the I'm so glad the true self thank god all right well as you've said

00:38:40.400 there's a horrifying delay on this so if you're struggling to if you're struggling and consuming

00:38:48.540 in this episode know that it's due to the delay um but i love you i'll talk to you soon all right

00:38:55.900 i miss you

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00:41:24.140 but it's his recent number one hit, Darling, that put Chase on the map

00:41:27.160 and launched a fun and difficult conversation about lovers who cheat and lie.

00:41:32.400 That's why I'm scared to get married. You're giving me trust issues, brother.

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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - September 13, 2022

Smile Toward The Sun

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