Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak - October 19, 2021


The Friend in the Mirror

Topics
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Length

1 hour

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190.25

Word count

11,477

Sentence count

923

Harmful content

Misogyny

28

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Toxicity

59

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Hate speech

29

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Transcript

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00:02:08.720 Hi, I'm Kate Berlant.
00:02:10.140 I'm Jacqueline Novak.
00:02:11.260 And this is POOG, an ongoing conversation about wellness between two obsessive friends.
00:02:16.000 Two untameable intellects.
00:02:17.760 This is our hobby. 0.93
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00:02:21.720 This is POOG.
00:02:22.920 Today's topic, loosely speaking, drop-down menu.
00:02:26.100 Subterranean Brewing
00:02:28.040 Faces
00:02:29.120 Oh God
00:02:32.740 It's a good one
00:02:34.160 We're coming in laughing
00:02:35.180 Because
00:02:35.780 Jacqueline
00:02:36.720 I just want to say
00:02:37.320 You just demonstrated 0.73
00:02:38.440 You just reparent
00:02:39.300 Like you just
00:02:40.680 I know we're supposed to reparent
00:02:41.520 Ourselves
00:02:42.320 But
00:02:42.660 Oh that's so good
00:02:44.080 You just did something to me
00:02:44.920 That I feel is the mark of 1.00
00:02:46.580 A
00:02:46.940 You really knowing me
00:02:48.080 And you
00:02:48.560 That was intimacy
00:02:49.880 And that was love
00:02:50.540 What you just did
00:02:51.120 So
00:02:51.340 I'm so glad you experienced it that way
00:02:52.920 Thank God
00:02:53.380 No no
00:02:53.500 Because you know
00:02:54.140 Because I even had the petulance
00:02:55.620 of a child. Okay, listen. Listen, everyone. We might have to read the thread. We might have to
00:03:00.220 read the thread. The thread is special. Okay. So every time we record, Jacqueline is the one to
00:03:07.480 create the Zoom call. I myself have never had the agency to create my own Zoom meeting because in my
00:03:13.700 mind, and this is, this, it's, you know, everything comes down to these little moments, right? This is
00:03:18.800 where, this is the central crisis of my character, of my life. Maybe that's a little bold, but it's
00:03:24.080 one of the, let's go bold, is that I feel this deep ineptitude within myself. And I feel that
00:03:31.260 things are so difficult that I can't like, okay, to create a zoom meeting, something like that.
00:03:35.780 I go, that's for other people. I can't do that. That's something that's, that's in the weeds.
00:03:41.300 That's fighting. That's like, that's, you know, a fight for a knife in the mud to quote the
00:03:47.860 succession trailer no i wish it were my phrase i'm dead full body chills it's a fight for a knife 0.91
00:03:53.740 in the wood in the mud holy shit blood i feel wow forcing through my veins okay anyway to me that
00:04:00.900 is that belongs to a world that i will never know right and so other people can make zoom meetings 0.92
00:04:07.500 i can't right so then today i know i get it i get it it's just and it holds me back it can we read
00:04:14.880 it so intensely. I mean, I can trace that idea to so many areas of my life where I self-sabotage
00:04:22.500 and self-sabotage, of course, ultimately is a form of protection and defense.
00:04:27.480 Of course. Of course. I mean, okay. Oh yeah. All right. You ready? So you're on the East
00:04:32.280 Coast. I'm on the West Coast and we'll identify caps as needed. Okay. I'll read my lines. You
00:04:37.200 read yours. Okay. Wait, hang on. I'm looking. I'm looking. Where is it? Okay. Okay. You say
00:04:40.940 GM. Morning poog. Well, for me, hee hee. I say GM, haha. Walking in right now to my apartment, 0.97
00:04:49.420 blah, blah. I say Zoom. Sorry, I've never made one. I don't understand how.
00:04:55.540 And by the way, this is 10 minutes before we had our set time. So like, I felt like we were still
00:04:59.560 on borrowed time or not. I was like, we got to go. We got to go. Yeah. So I go, I'll teach you
00:05:03.760 so you know. You open the app. It says start meeting. It's all right there on the screen.
00:05:09.660 and then I said okay here I go OMG you're gonna try I'm excited I'll walk you through
00:05:20.260 but I bet you can manage he he and I said the screen the screenshot's huge the screenshot's
00:05:25.980 huge I took a I took a photo of my screen meeting thing I wrote question mark
00:05:32.100 say what the picture is say what the picture is so the picture is of the home screen and it says
00:05:37.980 new meeting and i have it highlighted you've clicked on the drop down the drop down arrow
00:05:42.940 and then i immediately got confused so i wrote a question mark and i said since we are in a time
00:05:47.040 crunch can you just do it today i'm already lost and i'm looking and i'm seeing like like like it
00:05:53.680 was like you know like you open zoom because it's like you got to remember like you got to remember
00:05:57.300 like you know zoom like flew into its truth you know like this year like family members grandparents
00:06:04.060 I know.
00:06:04.760 It became the language of culture.
00:06:07.660 And so, like, it's, like, also it's hysterical to me.
00:06:10.240 It's, like, you open up Zoom, and there's, like, four big buttons, right?
00:06:13.300 You've, like, made it harder because instead of clicking directly on the orange...
00:06:16.840 I know, I know.
00:06:17.420 ...you've clicked on the tiny little drop-down arrow next to it, okay?
00:06:21.460 And there's these options.
00:06:23.700 I sent you the photo.
00:06:24.920 You sent me the photo.
00:06:25.680 So I go, you go, I'm already lost.
00:06:27.180 Can you just do it today since we're in a time crowd?
00:06:30.500 Okay.
00:06:31.120 And I'm, like, we still have, like, nine minutes at this point, right?
00:06:33.620 So I'm like, we're fine.
00:06:34.700 And I can start it in one second.
00:06:36.280 So I'm like, we're going to take, you know?
00:06:37.600 Keep reading.
00:06:38.140 I go, sorry.
00:06:39.560 Just click it.
00:06:40.760 The orange button.
00:06:43.420 All caps.
00:06:44.280 Click right on the orange.
00:06:46.920 You're almost there, Kate.
00:06:48.660 I said, I did!
00:06:50.340 Exclamation point, exclamation point.
00:06:52.120 Please just do it today.
00:06:54.440 I go, no, you clicked the little drop down.
00:06:57.760 I said, I promise I will next time.
00:07:00.680 I can do it at any second.
00:07:02.460 I say, ha, ha, ha. You're right there, all caps. And then I say, all caps, I don't understand
00:07:08.600 the dropdown menu. Me, all caps. Don't use it. Click the orange part. Click the orange button
00:07:17.500 itself. It will open. I respond to all caps. Please do it. And this is my boldness. I was
00:07:24.720 scared. Are you ready? I respond to all caps. Nope. And then I send another screen grab of
00:07:31.020 where I am.
00:07:31.620 The same thing.
00:07:32.400 The same like drop down menu activated.
00:07:34.780 And then,
00:07:35.100 and by the way,
00:07:35.360 at this point,
00:07:35.840 I'm like,
00:07:37.060 my heart's pounding.
00:07:37.920 I'm like,
00:07:38.300 I'm starting to do that.
00:07:39.840 It's not fury,
00:07:40.800 but it is like,
00:07:42.160 pick me up.
00:07:42.780 It feels like when you're a child
00:07:43.940 and you're like next to your mother
00:07:45.020 and you're like,
00:07:45.400 pick me up.
00:07:45.940 It's like that,
00:07:46.640 that urgency.
00:07:49.400 And then I'm like,
00:07:50.020 because of my note.
00:07:50.880 I got a FaceTime call from you.
00:07:53.200 And I'm like,
00:07:54.400 You pick up the face
00:07:55.440 you pick up with.
00:07:56.580 What was my face?
00:07:58.880 Like,
00:07:59.340 just like,
00:08:00.240 Like, absolute devastation.
00:08:02.280 Like, what are you doing to me?
00:08:04.900 I'm, like, smiling because I'm, like, I know you're right there.
00:08:07.380 I know you're safe.
00:08:08.480 And then we start laughing.
00:08:09.520 And then, by the way, it couldn't have been more easy.
00:08:13.900 And then I did it.
00:08:14.960 And I was, like, I'm doing it.
00:08:15.900 Because then you were actually using a workflow, okay?
00:08:18.960 Because, like, you're, like, okay.
00:08:20.300 So I was, like, I was going to give you, like, my, like, easy version
00:08:24.180 because, like, the thing on the right doesn't always open.
00:08:26.600 So I go down to the bottom, click participants.
00:08:28.580 then I click invite and I copy link
00:08:30.260 and I email it to you
00:08:31.240 instead of sort of like letting it fill in the email.
00:08:33.720 And you're like, oh, how do I find you?
00:08:34.980 And I'm like, oh Jesus,
00:08:35.740 she's typing in my name to the contacts,
00:08:37.480 like something I've never done.
00:08:39.520 They start to panic.
00:08:40.960 And then I'm like...
00:08:41.740 And then I, by the way,
00:08:42.760 and then I went my own route.
00:08:44.060 And I went my own route.
00:08:44.940 Almost the true route, the hard route.
00:08:47.040 Almost the hard route.
00:08:48.520 And then here we are.
00:08:49.860 And it really is a lesson.
00:08:51.040 It's in those little moments that we can,
00:08:53.480 you know, come to create new versions of ourselves,
00:08:56.720 form new neural pathways and create ourselves once again i mean it is and to say that i'm
00:09:02.680 empowered would not be a lie i felt i know and i power i you know only because of your refusal
00:09:09.440 to cradle me right to coddle me was i able to get there no and it felt like i was so because
00:09:17.460 i'm not like trying like some like hard ass like i'm not like it was a more loving thing
00:09:21.400 it's a more loving thing it felt like it because i knew you were okay and i needed to know you were
00:09:25.460 safe no no you didn't enable me anymore one of the hardest things in life it's um is to break
00:09:33.280 that cycle because the other thing is it feels good certainly sometimes right like if i'm the
00:09:39.220 one like like and it's also hysterical because these are not like some people like creating the
00:09:44.060 zoom meeting wouldn't even be you know like i mean like what i mean i have in your part what
00:09:48.080 i'm about to say like this is absurd like there's a pleasure in kate mama okay okay and me like with
00:09:55.300 my strong mother arms just being able to like scoop you up like it's nothing okay so like be
00:09:59.540 like oh yeah i got it link's coming kate you know what i mean yeah and then i got this pleasure
00:10:03.980 because i was like the email came through it's gonna work okay and then we're like hang up like
00:10:07.740 see you on the zoom and then i click on the email and it's like the host must let you in
00:10:12.600 and i was like i had this little thrill that i was about to do what you do to me which is like
00:10:17.540 the very second i've created or the very second like i create the zoom you're in there's a text
00:10:22.460 i'm waiting waiting to be let in yeah like i'll look away for three seconds and you're like i'm 0.86
00:10:28.020 here bitch yeah and so i was like so good like to see if i could quickly scramble to get like a 1.00
00:10:33.100 text into you that said like i'm waiting right right right like almost like so you'd understand 0.97
00:10:39.820 how quick it happens no i see now because then i hit admit and it was and then and i was yeah
00:10:46.340 I feel alive.
00:10:47.700 I mean, because I...
00:10:48.480 Me too.
00:10:49.740 I'm in a good place today.
00:10:51.760 I have a long list for us.
00:10:53.140 I'm so excited.
00:10:53.960 It feels like it's been six and a half years.
00:10:55.560 And it's been, what, a week?
00:10:57.560 It's been a little...
00:10:58.280 I think, yes, I think because...
00:11:00.260 I don't even know.
00:11:01.060 You know what?
00:11:01.400 I think we recorded last week earlier than we normally would.
00:11:04.380 So it's been over.
00:11:05.340 All I know is that we're here and that I love you and I miss you.
00:11:08.520 And I can't wait till we're in the same place again.
00:11:11.880 And I will.
00:11:12.940 And I just want to formally right now go,
00:11:14.340 So Los Angeles, adjacent, I'm looking at Ojai, the Capri in Ojai, please host us.
00:11:21.920 We've tried with Two Bunch Palms.
00:11:23.540 We were brutally let down.
00:11:24.940 And by the way, Two Bunch Palms, you still have a chance.
00:11:27.000 And we say this with love.
00:11:28.100 We're not here to threaten.
00:11:29.100 We're here to entice you and to beg.
00:11:31.700 And so please let us in.
00:11:33.860 Two Bunch Palms, I repeat, Two Bunch Palms.
00:11:35.980 If you, again, refuse, and I'll say it again, we'll share a room.
00:11:39.120 You don't need to do two rooms, okay?
00:11:43.120 Oh, I know.
00:11:43.820 Do you still believe that that's what screwed us?
00:11:46.080 Because like, Kate, ask for two rooms.
00:11:47.820 You know, like we're grown women or something.
00:11:49.420 One room, two beds.
00:11:50.980 I would like that.
00:11:51.920 And then if Two Bunch Palms continues to say no,
00:11:54.580 I would like the Capri in Ojai.
00:11:56.960 Okay.
00:11:57.700 Now, here's the thing.
00:11:59.080 So I have been trying to seek out sort of hotel partnerships, okay,
00:12:05.900 as I've been going on the road last couple weeks and stuff.
00:12:09.660 And the whole thing, the thing I hear from experts in the field is that the travel industry, they're just behind on understanding the value of not the absolute humungo celebrity, okay?
00:12:26.140 The micro-influencer, so to speak.
00:12:28.220 And I don't mean to suggest, I wouldn't call them micro.
00:12:32.640 You know what I mean?
00:12:33.680 I'm not Tom Cruise, sure.
00:12:37.320 But there's a sweet spot in here.
00:12:39.520 There's a tapped in quality.
00:12:42.020 I don't know.
00:12:42.380 We've been in the Times for Christ's sake.
00:12:44.140 You send a Times article, you expect.
00:12:46.820 Does the New Yorker mean nothing anymore?
00:12:48.700 Does the New Yorker mean nothing to you people?
00:12:50.260 I mean, no, I'm like, hey, some press links attached.
00:12:54.140 And like. 0.99
00:12:54.760 You pigs. 1.00
00:12:56.500 God. 1.00
00:12:57.080 But anyway, and I just, I got overwhelmed.
00:12:59.640 So I've just been, as I've been saying,
00:13:01.140 paying through the nose and loving it kind of like,
00:13:03.820 like the, like, just like, okay. 0.99
00:13:05.860 And really become a bastard with hotels. 0.97
00:13:09.300 because, so I've been in like six hotels 0.99
00:13:12.180 in the last like two weeks, right?
00:13:14.060 Because, you know, number of cities
00:13:15.720 and then moving hotels.
00:13:18.900 Okay, let's talk about moving hotels.
00:13:20.480 Give me your luggage.
00:13:22.660 What do you have?
00:13:23.820 A big bag? 1.00
00:13:24.400 I had a big ass, 1.00
00:13:25.780 I have a big hard shell for, 1.00
00:13:27.540 not huge, but medium.
00:13:28.720 A big shell, interesting.
00:13:29.980 Bigger than something I could check,
00:13:32.040 but not offensive with merch,
00:13:34.940 if you can imagine.
00:13:35.780 Of course, of course.
00:13:36.660 And then that's where the markups are, people.
00:13:41.120 The markups on the merch live.
00:13:43.240 You got to pay the, you know.
00:13:45.020 And one checkable Briggs Riley and one fabulous paper-based backpack that actually I'm going to post on Pooh because it came from.
00:13:54.300 Okay, so you got a big guy, a smaller guy, and a little backpack.
00:13:58.300 But wait, so hotels.
00:14:00.200 So there's this kind of realm of hotel right now that it's not the chain, okay? It's not a true
00:14:10.520 boutique hotel. Like it's not a one-off, but these sort of mini chains, okay, there's two properties,
00:14:17.740 you know, there's three properties. There's one in Seattle, there's one in... These kind of places
00:14:20.820 that... And like on like Hotel Tonight... Sister locations. What's that? Sister locations. Yeah.
00:14:26.420 Yeah. And like, it's like these ones are popping up that look, they have all the right kind of
00:14:31.340 design. Okay. The typeface is right. Okay. The marketing is right. And so you go, I think these
00:14:36.820 people get it. Right. Because this is a brass knob. You're like, fine. Here's 600. Literally
00:14:41.360 the brass knob. Literally the brass knob. I know. One plant in your. Okay. A coffee cup with like a
00:14:46.660 phrase on it, you know, like, not like, no, but like, I'm not quite doing it right. Like not a
00:14:52.420 phrase like but first coffee okay because there's like the neon kind of like hotels I was picturing
00:14:58.100 like a mug with like a kind of funky handle like a hand you know the implication it was made by hand
00:15:04.660 right right and like of course then like down in the lobby for sale that's 60 of them you know
00:15:11.740 what I mean yeah yeah like not by hand you know what I mean like the realization I went to a hotel
00:15:15.900 recently where everything in the room was for sale there was a barcode you could scan and so it's like 1.00
00:15:21.320 oh you like that you little bitch like and i have to say i didn't like the feeling it felt 0.97
00:15:27.400 it was upsetting it was scary and in the room there's this okay so i use spotify and my discover 0.99
00:15:34.760 weekly can be so accurate that it really takes away any romance of my own personality or who i
00:15:39.520 am and oh the identity i've constructed is actually completely locatable due to my um like
00:15:46.060 the algorithm knows me better than i know myself that's hysterical i didn't even know i wanted or
00:15:50.400 needed. And I have, I hear a song on my Discover Weekly and I go, God, I love this. And it's,
00:15:55.880 you know, it hits in me feeling of some interiority that I thought was precious
00:15:59.380 to myself and could only be meld by myself. And if I'm lucky, a couple other people.
00:16:04.200 And then no, I actually can be reduced to my, the keystrokes on my phone, bring me,
00:16:08.660 you know, make me so readable, so pathetically readable through an algorithm. And they go,
00:16:13.840 yes, we know what you like, you fucking slut. And here it is. 1.00
00:16:17.040 and here it is we know what you like and it's still that way about urban outfitters nostalgia
00:16:21.220 like items like when i go in there like i can't not all of it but some of it i'm like
00:16:25.760 the sort of like plastic glittery um like snow globe frame or something like these kind of like
00:16:30.780 80s nostalgia things like a lilac little like or caboodles like i love caboodles like what's
00:16:36.000 a caboodle a caboodle is like kind of like an 80s 90s like plastic i have like 10 of them they're
00:16:41.600 like uh plastic like oh sure sure beauty products in it you open it up yeah and the colors
00:16:46.780 these pastels and it's like this sort of 80s dream yeah and i can't and they're very california
00:16:52.240 to me also and that's an east coaster those that really calls to you so it's like it's like i see 0.91
00:16:56.540 it and i'm like fuck like it's that same feeling where i'm like they know like they're hitting on 0.96
00:17:00.880 my nostalgia points like dead on you know what i mean like literally urban outfitters is nailing 0.99
00:17:06.440 it for me like i'm furious no i know they they they know what we want okay by the way i forgot
00:17:12.580 to set a timer first of all can we acknowledge can we acknowledge i'm now now i'm like topping
00:17:17.240 you yeah now i'm like i'm like i know exactly no i tell tell okay so just now listener because
00:17:25.040 we're on zoom obviously so we see each other when we record i noticed that we're at the 60 minute
00:17:29.320 mark and i started rolling fingers rolling start doing a wrap-up motion in my head point at my
00:17:36.980 watch okay okay we gotta we gotta go like we gotta cut a break that was so oh and one other
00:17:44.360 moment of that we got it was effortless like for me i wasn't as i was doing i wasn't going well
00:17:48.620 this is funny i was completely in my role oh it was completely real and also i just want to say
00:17:53.940 that my dominance yeah when like talking about the empowerment of the zoom thing okay so like
00:18:00.540 the meetings like so we're in we're gonna start recording right and i click on record on zoom so
00:18:05.580 we have the you know the whatever and it's like oh right i'm not hosting so this is like ask
00:18:10.580 host for permission okay and i start to panic like is this gonna send kate over the edge
00:18:15.020 right right okay and then and then you're i'm like oh and you're like uh and then i'm like i'm like
00:18:20.200 maybe you just record and they're like yeah okay like with utter casualness you were like you were
00:18:25.280 empowered okay you were like oh i'll record boom and it started incredible okay we have to go to
00:18:29.480 break. All right. We'll come right back.
00:18:34.100 This is Ryder Strong,
00:18:35.560 and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.
00:18:38.160 It was many
00:18:39.460 and many a year ago
00:18:41.100 in a kingdom by the sea.
00:18:43.320 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna
00:18:45.420 Traynor, disappeared from a commune.
00:18:47.320 It was hard to wrap your head around. It was
00:18:48.880 nature and trees and praying
00:18:51.160 and drugs. So no, I am
00:18:53.360 not your guru.
00:18:56.060 And back then, I lied
00:18:57.560 To my parents, I lied to police, I lied to everybody.
00:19:00.960 There were years right where I could not say your name.
00:19:03.940 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,
00:19:06.600 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists,
00:19:09.420 whomever I can to try to find out what actually happened.
00:19:12.780 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods
00:19:15.680 and not the obvious boyfriend?
00:19:17.360 They have had this case for 30 years. 0.98
00:19:20.280 I'll teach you sons of **** to come around here and my wife. 0.97
00:19:23.340 Boom, boom. 0.99
00:19:24.400 This is The Red Weather.
00:19:27.560 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:19:34.500 Crook and Chase Nashville chats with the coolest cat in country music.
00:19:38.440 He is edgy. He's fun. He is Chase Matthews.
00:19:41.780 Keith Urban helped make him a global sensation last year, but it's his recent number one hit,
00:19:46.020 darling, that put Chase on the map and launched a fun and difficult conversation about lovers who cheat and lie.
00:19:52.800 That's why I'm scared to get married. You're giving me trust issues, brother.
00:19:55.520 Crook and Chase Nashville Chats with Chase Matthew.
00:19:58.420 Listen and subscribe on the iHeartRadio app,
00:20:00.860 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
00:20:04.980 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, from The Girlfriends,
00:20:08.500 the number one hit true crime show
00:20:10.820 that puts women right in the center of their own stories.
00:20:14.960 I'm back with more one-off interviews 1.00
00:20:17.080 with some truly kick-ass women on The Girlfriends Spotlight. 1.00
00:20:22.040 I want to introduce you to Sylvia. 0.85
00:20:24.240 I'm going to climb this
00:20:26.380 And then there's Vaisaka
00:20:28.560 Let's see how we can stop killing and save lives
00:20:32.760 Leila dared to ask the question
00:20:35.120 Is badness hereditary?
00:20:37.620 And finally, we'll meet Rosamund 0.68
00:20:39.480 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived
00:20:42.360 she wouldn't have died on that fatal night
00:20:45.100 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one
00:20:47.100 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground
00:20:49.940 I'm not too intimidated by her
00:20:51.600 What are you talking about? 1.00
00:20:54.240 Listen to the Girlfriend Spotlight on the iHeartRadio app, 1.00
00:20:58.040 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:21:09.120 We're soaring. Welcome back.
00:21:13.980 Okay. First of all, can I just say something about,
00:21:16.140 so the Pooghags have been showing up and I just want to thank them for that. 1.00
00:21:20.280 Knowing they're in the crowd, knowing there are even two, okay, in a single crowd. 1.00
00:21:23.720 piece. I'm like, they know me. They get me. Okay. It fractures the idea of the standup audience.
00:21:29.860 So anyway, in a good way. So performed at Largo last night. Are you ready for something that I
00:21:35.660 heard from the door guy? Okay. Or hand from the door guy. He told management, okay, this is a
00:21:41.800 direct quote. Jacqueline's audience is really well moisturized. They all seem to have skincare
00:21:49.340 regimens are you absolutely kidding can you believe what are you talking about did the
00:21:56.300 did this door person know of poog as far as i know just completely no did not okay i was like
00:22:04.200 i i'm telling i'm telling you you must tell i'm like i i thought that the the poog listener
00:22:10.480 would be proud i don't know what else to say is that not shocking speechless yeah i've never i 0.69
00:22:17.880 can't even I've never heard anything of the sort and also apparently they're really good with their
00:22:22.160 vax cards and their masks and just having it all ready to go of course they're not lovely
00:22:26.180 I mean I don't know it you know it is what it is but I was really excited oh but but oh hi oh hi
00:22:32.080 oh yeah oh hi oh and moving hotels yeah so I get to it so it's this kind of brand of charming hotel
00:22:38.620 okay heard a phone name there yeah when did I turn that I turned that on oh for something
00:22:45.040 Because, you know, I never do.
00:22:46.220 It's always D&D.
00:22:47.440 I know.
00:22:48.820 That's why I'm so shocked.
00:22:49.420 I've never heard your phone go off in our entire friendship.
00:22:51.820 Oh, my God.
00:22:53.200 And that reveals why sometimes I don't see things immediately.
00:22:55.900 I mean, like, you're on the inside of it now.
00:22:57.580 Yeah, I'm on the inside.
00:22:58.680 I don't have to worry about that.
00:22:59.500 My extreme focus.
00:23:00.420 My extreme focus on you is someone else is getting ignored at this moment.
00:23:04.240 It's kind of amazing.
00:23:04.940 So I keep choosing these hotels that on, like, Hotel Tonight might be designated as hip versus luxe, okay?
00:23:13.200 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
00:23:14.420 And it's like, oh, the old stodgy Luxe Hotel, okay?
00:23:17.620 Which for some reason in my mind, to be honest,
00:23:19.380 I've always pronounced luge.
00:23:22.620 Always and still do.
00:23:24.580 Yeah, like, because it's almost like luxury in my mind.
00:23:28.860 Yeah.
00:23:29.240 And just like Luxe with like this word
00:23:31.380 that feels like it's meant to be French, whatever.
00:23:34.060 I choose to have hotels, okay?
00:23:35.920 And they have all the right branding
00:23:37.060 and they have all the right font, okay?
00:23:38.860 And the whole thing and the austerity
00:23:41.780 and even kind of masculine, this sort of,
00:23:43.900 I'm drawn to the masculine hotel that often has a name like you know the blah blah blah and it's
00:23:49.740 like it's like some masculine sounding last name if you know if that can be possible and you know
00:23:55.520 it is it's like a refurbished motel or something those even I in some ways prefer but but but
00:24:02.360 anyway these are a lot of like banks a lot of re re-mentioned banks so it's like I go in and
00:24:08.080 it's like decor great whatever and like there's like a kind of woolen tweed like bench at the
00:24:14.940 end of the bed and there's just like some hairs on it some like you know like that are not mine
00:24:24.180 I mean I just arrived right and I know hairs everywhere okay I know it but I just it makes
00:24:30.460 me feel like I don't want to see it this is where the dollars are coming okay because you go well
00:24:36.020 why is it why is hair and it's like well here's why i think like why does the dollar amount why
00:24:42.040 is more expensive lead to less hair and it's like well they can keep their vacuum filters fresh
00:24:46.240 like they have enough cash to replace the vacuum filter regularly to keep the suction strong 0.88
00:24:52.380 to pay people appropriately so that they're not like fucking unable you know what i mean like 0.93
00:24:59.020 right right i think because i'm like this is my like how the hell because i was starting to go 0.89
00:25:04.180 is it impossible for there to be a clean hotel
00:25:06.200 at the height of luxury even?
00:25:08.380 Is it possible?
00:25:09.440 Yeah, like, and it does seem, yeah, listen to me.
00:25:16.780 Also, by the way, nothing's coming.
00:25:18.220 Nothing, I have nothing good coming down the horn right now.
00:25:20.260 But I just was going to say, because hotels, I,
00:25:24.160 is this true? Can this be true?
00:25:26.040 I'm like, I think I've only once really paid for eight,
00:25:30.300 what I would say is a long period hotel once.
00:25:34.180 was like, you know what? 1.00
00:25:37.020 Fuck it. 1.00
00:25:38.880 It was so expensive. 1.00
00:25:41.300 Two nights.
00:25:42.160 So hideously expensive.
00:25:43.660 Was it good?
00:25:45.180 No.
00:25:49.240 No, okay.
00:25:50.020 First of all.
00:25:50.780 All right.
00:25:51.020 Tell me everything.
00:25:51.840 I'm so excited.
00:25:52.420 I want to say.
00:25:53.120 I have a great one coming,
00:25:54.000 which is that I had the greatest luxury hotel experience last week.
00:25:56.880 We'll get to that.
00:25:57.660 This was so hideously expensive.
00:26:01.380 I wonder what you mean by that.
00:26:03.120 When I pull, oh.
00:26:04.180 That when I pull up, I go, there isn't an iced tea or a mimosa on a tray for check-in.
00:26:11.380 I mean, this is like, hello?
00:26:14.540 How sickening, right?
00:26:16.720 Not only was there no mint, iced peppermint, nothing.
00:26:22.920 Yeah, yeah.
00:26:23.900 I actually found the check-in experience to be rather brusque.
00:26:27.660 Oh, wow.
00:26:28.280 And they go, I mean, I'm still real.
00:26:31.600 Breakfast wasn't included and that's all I'll say.
00:26:33.580 So you mean to tell me for this,
00:26:35.180 breakfast is not included?
00:26:36.860 I mean, that is, that is,
00:26:38.660 that the 30% has been paid for years.
00:26:42.060 Yeah.
00:26:42.680 And then I just want to say in the room,
00:26:45.760 the TV didn't work.
00:26:48.340 So I had to have someone come in.
00:26:49.620 And now I go, oh, in retrospect,
00:26:50.780 I could have gone.
00:26:51.500 You know, it was really disappointing.
00:26:52.780 The TV wasn't working.
00:26:53.940 And so I probably maybe could have gotten
00:26:55.180 a little bit of money knocked off,
00:26:56.340 but it was so expensive that I actually was two nights.
00:27:00.360 And after the first night, it was like,
00:27:01.680 what do I have to do to get out of this right like what like I the thought of paying for another
00:27:08.640 night was so nauseating god that it was like how do I name it because you're like maybe I can still
00:27:14.800 get a free room off them you don't want to name them here you don't have to name them but can you
00:27:19.620 describe to me like why am I protecting them why am I protecting them because you I was like maybe
00:27:24.880 she still want a free room from them like you're like well take it free well by the way by naming
00:27:28.940 and I'll get the free room. 0.99
00:27:30.140 Ventana.
00:27:31.320 Whoa.
00:27:32.140 Ventana and Big Sur.
00:27:34.400 Really?
00:27:34.980 Big Sur.
00:27:35.940 I know nothing of Big Sur
00:27:37.020 as an East Coaster once again.
00:27:38.040 I mean, Big Sur is so gorgeous
00:27:39.880 and there are two hyper-luxury hotels
00:27:43.320 that are directly across from each other.
00:27:46.540 There's Post Ranch Inn
00:27:47.360 where I've never been
00:27:47.980 and there's Ventana
00:27:48.740 and I was doing exhaustive research
00:27:50.940 over which one to go to.
00:27:52.360 Landed at Ventana
00:27:53.180 and because I've always stayed at the...
00:27:56.320 there's really sweet, inexpensive ones nearby that, you know,
00:28:01.560 and I vastly prefer, hugely prefer that.
00:28:04.180 No, but, and it's, that's the risk.
00:28:06.520 It's like, you have to take the risk.
00:28:08.600 Oh my God, for Barbara's not being included, I still.
00:28:11.020 No, well, yeah, I mean.
00:28:12.100 And by the way, beautiful deck.
00:28:13.280 Wi-Fi, are you kidding?
00:28:13.940 Deck with a hammock, overlooking the treetops.
00:28:16.360 I mean, beautiful, you know, undeniably beautiful, but.
00:28:21.780 I had the, so.
00:28:23.200 You know, no, no.
00:28:24.820 Outdoor shower.
00:28:26.180 Okay.
00:28:26.340 Oh, wow.
00:28:27.020 Outdoor shower.
00:28:28.160 No, no.
00:28:28.740 I mean, it was lovely, actually.
00:28:31.000 Yeah.
00:28:33.240 No, I mean, you know, Oyster.com, which I was lured into as a website because,
00:28:39.140 and I still look at it sometimes, like, because they're like,
00:28:42.400 you can't return a bad vacation.
00:28:43.740 That's their tagline.
00:28:44.560 And it's like, whoa, well done.
00:28:46.300 First of all, in the tagline, the whole thing is like real photos.
00:28:49.500 Okay.
00:28:49.700 Which a lot of the other sites now, guest photos, but it's just real photos.
00:28:53.820 Okay.
00:28:53.940 they're like and they compare it to the picture so they show like the picture of the pool on the
00:28:58.680 website and then and like they show how like they photograph like the they cut off the pool so it
00:29:04.800 looks like it never ends they've cut off the frame and then they show that what the pool looks like
00:29:09.120 and it's just like you know some concrete hell like like attached to the back of a building like
00:29:16.840 you're just like oh cool it's a dumpster with a puddle of water nearby yeah and like whatever
00:29:21.800 it's a useful side and I do research I spend hours okay and often while I'm in one hotel
00:29:27.000 I'm spending hours researching the other oh yeah I'm in a bathtub okay I was in a clawfoot
00:29:33.000 glorious bathtub literally going literally researching a hotel I could move out of that
00:29:39.440 one like you know what I mean like so so anyway but I moved I'm gonna say it because like I'm
00:29:45.920 like do I withhold no because it's good we overly withhold on pook I know well it's like waiting
00:29:51.280 waiting for the cash or something, but it's like, so anyway, I moved to the Lotte. Okay. I just want
00:29:56.200 to say it. I have pictures. I have videos. Okay. I took videos. The Lotte in Seattle
00:30:01.920 is a revelation. Oh my God. Okay. It's, I'm feeling like, like, what do you love? What do
00:30:10.400 you love? All right. So it's interesting because it's a, you know, high rise. Okay. Which isn't
00:30:15.880 generally the kind of like hotels that are very like business, you know, international business.
00:30:21.140 It's a Korean, like maybe there's a couple in the world, but it's a Korean company at least.
00:30:26.740 And I think this is their first U.S. property. First of all, major, you know, spa that is
00:30:32.440 completely Biologique Recherche led. Shut the fuck up. Okay. I took a picture of that. I'll 1.00
00:30:37.340 post it. When I went into the spa, there was a like glass cabinet filled with the entire line.
00:30:42.840 And by the way, I went in and I wrote on my little form, the intake, like nut allergy, and get the Patty Glow on Instagram, get the Patty Glow, wonderful, incredible facialist, told me most of the biologic research products are technically nut-based because of various nut oils, okay?
00:31:03.480 So I have to do the research on the side.
00:31:05.580 The nut oils in theory will not trigger me because I don't think they have a nut protein in it.
00:31:09.280 Right, right, right.
00:31:10.400 But you don't want to be lying there one...
00:31:11.660 You don't want to be doing the test on the table
00:31:13.100 when you're paying through the nose.
00:31:14.620 So she did a whole other thing.
00:31:16.460 I fall asleep during it.
00:31:17.660 I mean, I fall asleep during it.
00:31:18.820 Like to fall asleep while someone's doing fractions.
00:31:21.340 I've been known to fall asleep
00:31:22.460 during a microcurrent facial, actually.
00:31:24.700 And you know what my facialist told me?
00:31:26.600 That she has some people that are...
00:31:28.460 That the microcurrent,
00:31:29.440 they like love the way it feels so much
00:31:31.300 and they feel like it energetically aligns them.
00:31:33.660 No.
00:31:34.200 That they like have to get it all the time.
00:31:36.400 Oh my God.
00:31:38.100 That they come in, they're like, I need it.
00:31:39.600 Like, I just don't feel right without it.
00:31:40.940 And I will say the microcurrent facial, the way she does it.
00:31:43.020 She's also a Reiki master.
00:31:44.700 Do you have a Reiki master?
00:31:45.440 Okay, here it is.
00:31:46.040 There it is.
00:31:46.740 Microcurrent.
00:31:47.400 And I have fallen asleep and I do get high from it.
00:31:51.160 Like, I do feel...
00:31:52.340 Well, vibration.
00:31:53.300 I actually zipped today.
00:31:54.480 And I want to say the zip.
00:31:56.260 By the way, zip sent us an additional golden gel.
00:31:58.980 It's waiting for you, mom, if you haven't.
00:32:00.300 Okay.
00:32:00.740 Oh, no.
00:32:01.380 Kate, I know.
00:32:02.320 You know why?
00:32:03.140 Why?
00:32:03.400 You already threw it.
00:32:03.580 I requested it.
00:32:05.280 Thank you, Jacqueline.
00:32:06.380 I couldn't believe when I received it.
00:32:07.880 But I want to say that I zipped.
00:32:09.600 And the zip is incredible for acne, I have to say.
00:32:13.100 I had some breakouts.
00:32:14.620 Yeah.
00:32:14.920 And I, you know, masked me, wearing so much makeup.
00:32:18.320 Yeah.
00:32:18.880 I zipped over.
00:32:20.580 I actually sent you a photo because I was scared because I was a little red after.
00:32:23.420 Yeah.
00:32:24.240 The next day, the zits are, I want to say, 60% improved.
00:32:27.640 Like, absolutely.
00:32:29.440 The zip is remarkable for acne, for me, I have to say.
00:32:33.100 No, that's...
00:32:33.820 I haven't, like, I don't really like...
00:32:35.540 You feel it.
00:32:35.840 You drag it over where the blemishes are.
00:32:38.260 I know you don't.
00:32:38.620 I've never seen a single one.
00:32:39.540 Oh, and you feel the pain.
00:32:40.700 You feel it zapping it.
00:32:42.140 Yeah, you kind of like it hurts a little.
00:32:43.900 Because it's that thing where it like it recognizes where it's needed or whatever.
00:32:49.820 And that's what's crazy.
00:32:50.520 You'll drag it over.
00:32:51.280 If you have like a zit, you'll drag it over your skin.
00:32:53.680 You feel nothing.
00:32:54.300 Right when it passes a zit, you feel it.
00:32:56.420 And sometimes you feel something.
00:32:57.240 You don't see anything and you go, there's something subterranean brewing.
00:33:00.240 The zip.
00:33:00.820 You always say brewing for like acne on its way.
00:33:05.180 It's like subterranean brewing is like huge for you.
00:33:07.940 and it's like such a disturbing metaphor.
00:33:11.040 And like, I just...
00:33:12.120 I think we have to go to break again.
00:33:13.280 Revelation, oh my God.
00:33:14.820 I want to talk for 90 hours.
00:33:15.980 Am I wrong?
00:33:17.260 You're not wrong. 1.00
00:33:18.540 Fuck. 1.00
00:33:19.740 All right, are you topping me? 1.00
00:33:21.440 Okay, we'll be right back.
00:33:28.500 This is Ryder Strong
00:33:29.800 and I have a new podcast called The Red Weather.
00:33:32.560 It was many and many a year ago
00:33:35.520 in a kingdom by the sea.
00:33:37.940 In 1995, my neighbor, Anna Traynor, disappeared from a commune.
00:33:41.720 It was hard to wrap your head around.
00:33:43.060 It was nature and trees and praying and drugs.
00:33:46.700 No, I am not your guru.
00:33:50.460 And back then, I lied to my parents.
00:33:53.100 I lied to police.
00:33:54.380 I lied to everybody.
00:33:55.100 There were years, Ryder, where I could not say your name.
00:33:58.360 I've decided to go back to my hometown in Northern California,
00:34:01.000 interview my friends, family, talk to police, journalists, whomever I can,
00:34:04.880 to try to find out what actually happened.
00:34:07.000 Isn't it a little bit weird that they obsess over hippies in the woods and not the obvious boyfriend?
00:34:11.780 They have had this case for 30 years. 1.00
00:34:14.700 I'll teach you sons of bitches to come around here and my wife. 1.00
00:34:17.720 Boom, boom. 1.00
00:34:19.040 This is The Red Weather.
00:34:22.040 Listen to The Red Weather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:34:28.980 Crook and Chase Nashville chats with the coolest cat in country music.
00:34:32.840 He is edgy.
00:34:33.680 He's fun.
00:34:34.400 He is Chase Matthews.
00:34:36.400 Durbin helped make him a global sensation last year,
00:34:38.920 but it's his recent number one hit darling
00:34:40.820 that put Chase on the map
00:34:41.940 and launched a fun and difficult conversation
00:34:45.000 about lovers who cheat and lie.
00:34:47.200 That's why I'm scared to get married.
00:34:48.540 You're giving me trust issues, brother.
00:34:50.100 Crook and Chase Nashville chats with Chase Matthew.
00:34:52.820 Listen and subscribe on the iHeartRadio app,
00:34:54.960 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
00:34:59.400 Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, from The Girlfriends,
00:35:02.900 the number one hit true crime show
00:35:05.220 that puts women right in the centre of their own stories.
00:35:09.360 I'm back with more one-off interviews 1.00
00:35:11.480 with some truly kick-ass women on the Girlfriends Spotlight. 1.00
00:35:16.480 I want to introduce you to Sylvia.
00:35:18.920 I'm going to climb this.
00:35:21.660 And then there's Vaisaka.
00:35:23.420 Let's see how we can stop killing and save lives.
00:35:27.520 Leila dared to ask the question.
00:35:29.980 Is badness hereditary?
00:35:32.020 And finally, we'll meet Rosamund.
00:35:33.840 If it wasn't for the year where Ella lived,
00:35:36.960 she wouldn't have died on that fatal night.
00:35:39.900 You'll even get to meet my mum in that one,
00:35:41.620 who I can always count on to keep my feet on the ground.
00:35:44.620 I'm not too intimidated by her.
00:35:46.060 What are you talking about? 1.00
00:35:48.980 Listen to The Girlfriend Spotlight on the iHeartRadio app, 1.00
00:35:52.440 Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:36:03.840 oh we're back baby we're back subterranean brewing so i just want to tell you a little
00:36:10.320 bit more about the lotte okay because oh yeah it's just a full ad and whatever but like they're 0.95
00:36:14.860 not giving us shit for free i'm telling you i mean they're just they're too big and they're
00:36:18.060 beyond us and that's okay like i don't want them to give it for free i want to pay i want to pay 0.95
00:36:22.600 as a form of like worship you know what i mean yeah but it's just like um like what were some
00:36:28.820 of the things well actually it was hysterical you know when like form and function okay like
00:36:33.140 Like, so, you know, the QR code for the menu.
00:36:35.500 Yeah, yeah.
00:36:36.040 There's one error, so to speak.
00:36:39.220 So they had a beautiful, like, Lucite, you know,
00:36:42.020 aka acrylic, but whatever, like, cube that a QR code
00:36:46.780 was etched into for the menu, okay?
00:36:49.200 So it's absolutely beautiful.
00:36:50.360 For the spa menu?
00:36:51.100 No, sorry.
00:36:51.880 This is still upstairs in my room, okay?
00:36:56.100 Cannot, cannot, the phone cannot grab the QR code.
00:36:59.620 Yeah.
00:37:00.080 Because it's etched into the site.
00:37:01.300 Okay, so that's the only issue.
00:37:02.500 However, food was delicious.
00:37:04.820 They didn't blink when I said no bun, okay? 1.00
00:37:07.200 Thank God. 0.99
00:37:08.600 The room was truly beautiful.
00:37:10.780 The color palettes, they were-
00:37:11.760 I can't wait.
00:37:12.380 Well, you'll have to post it again.
00:37:13.940 I'll post it all.
00:37:15.120 I have a full video.
00:37:16.960 There was a tub, you know, a real soaker, okay?
00:37:20.140 I mean-
00:37:20.800 Sitting at an angle.
00:37:22.260 Like I was just sitting there at an angle
00:37:23.840 towards like the city-
00:37:24.780 In the center of the room?
00:37:25.980 No, no.
00:37:26.660 Off to the bathroom.
00:37:27.480 I'm flying around.
00:37:28.720 Mirrors everywhere.
00:37:29.700 And actually, this is something I want to talk about
00:37:31.000 because this is something I've realized about myself, okay?
00:37:34.480 So mirrors everywhere, beautiful, wood-framed,
00:37:37.740 thick art leaning up on top of them, okay?
00:37:40.420 Just incredible.
00:37:42.020 I had a realization and I realized this years ago, okay?
00:37:45.800 And then I forgot, typical, right?
00:37:47.820 Good realization, okay?
00:37:49.240 But like mirrors actually do something for me
00:37:52.240 that's very important, okay?
00:37:54.140 And I have none in my home
00:37:55.720 and I've gone years without them.
00:37:57.520 I mean, other than like bathroom
00:37:58.520 or in a little apartment in New York,
00:37:59.860 No full-length mirror.
00:38:01.620 Oh, God.
00:38:02.180 Can't live without it.
00:38:03.260 Yeah, it's like...
00:38:04.540 I have, as you know,
00:38:05.440 in my bedroom in Los Angeles,
00:38:08.040 I have an entire wall that's a mirror.
00:38:09.920 But I didn't install it that way.
00:38:11.540 It looks like it's a dance studio.
00:38:13.080 I mean, truly.
00:38:13.840 Well, dance studio walls have always been my dream.
00:38:16.560 And when I first moved in,
00:38:17.800 I even thought, 0.99
00:38:18.340 do I install a goddamn bar here? 0.99
00:38:20.540 Like, it's... 0.99
00:38:21.260 Yeah.
00:38:21.580 And I love it.
00:38:22.260 And the time I spent in front of that mirror...
00:38:23.980 So my realization is...
00:38:25.660 You have a whole wall that's a mirror.
00:38:27.960 Well...
00:38:28.480 On all fours, spread.
00:38:31.460 You can really see what's going on with your body, for one.
00:38:34.600 You really can.
00:38:34.920 Let's get real with the full length.
00:38:36.420 I mean, because, like, you think of a mirror hanging on a door, right?
00:38:39.480 You've got that foot at the bottom where there's no mirror, right?
00:38:42.080 Ugh.
00:38:42.760 That's like a, what's that, you know, Florida.
00:38:45.420 But then, you know, mirror installation to me is something that feels deeply overwhelming.
00:38:50.020 And I guess you have to hire someone, right?
00:38:52.160 I'm not going to install a mirror.
00:38:53.460 I mean, like, full, big glass.
00:38:55.800 It warps, it shatters.
00:38:57.520 Yeah, like I'll die.
00:38:59.260 I'll die in moments.
00:39:00.220 Those little plastic clips that are like somehow hold them.
00:39:02.480 What?
00:39:02.960 Oh, yeah.
00:39:03.400 So anyway, but the realization about the mirror is like,
00:39:05.260 and I remember this from years ago,
00:39:06.120 like I had like a desk.
00:39:07.540 I had like whatever, a mirror leaning on my desk
00:39:10.600 and I would glance up while working or doing anything.
00:39:13.260 I'd see myself and seeing myself in the mirror,
00:39:15.460 like made me, it literally grounded me.
00:39:18.720 Okay.
00:39:19.260 Because it, seeing my own form grounded me more in my form
00:39:23.580 than being in my form does.
00:39:25.400 I was like oh look at me I'm solid matter I'm real okay like my brain like my consciousness
00:39:33.440 is darting around and I feel like amorphous and and complete you know what I mean and then I see
00:39:40.520 myself in the mirror I'm like look at me yeah contained yeah oh the liquid hasn't spilled out
00:39:46.080 no and so I'm like I need these around me I don't experience my body in that way like I like that
00:39:54.780 major. I'm like, look at me at my desk
00:39:57.360 working. Like, oh, I guess I am
00:39:59.280 a person. Well, guess who had
00:40:00.660 a mirror at her desk? Carrie Bradshaw 1.00
00:40:02.920 is typing away on her laptop, and
00:40:05.220 she's gazing into the mirror. I mean,
00:40:07.140 am I wrong? No. Wait, I'm
00:40:09.220 picturing a window. There is a mirror.
00:40:11.860 There's a window. 1.00
00:40:13.380 Right, because she's smoking. Wrong. 1.00
00:40:15.260 No, no, there's a mirror, but at some
00:40:17.080 point, there's, I mean, find it,
00:40:19.200 folks. No, I believe. I know she's sitting there at the
00:40:21.080 laptop, and there is a, yes, and she's gazing into
00:40:23.000 the mirror and i replicated that in my dorm in college i had a mirror on my i mean because the
00:40:29.000 mirror for me has been is is the is hugely the formation of my entire identity as an only child
00:40:36.420 of course the amount of time i spent in the mirror i mean it cannot be overstated and that's making
00:40:41.780 faces into the mirror gazing into the mirror i mean and i would even scare myself i can still
00:40:46.140 scare myself in the mirror. I think in the airplane bathroom, I've really scared myself.
00:40:54.180 Like my mom would like, like roll, like walk by a mirror. I don't know, like,
00:40:57.540 or something like, I don't know if it was a kid or still don't like make a scary face.
00:41:00.920 Yeah. Yeah. No, you can, I get really close and I've been able to scare myself.
00:41:05.120 Do you ever try to beat the speed of light? Okay. Like, like almost like,
00:41:09.260 oh, this is huge. Are you ready? Well, one thing I'm going to like, like in a set of mirrors or
00:41:13.880 something like i'm going to turn my head really quickly and catch myself before the mirror
00:41:16.840 reflection has has turned okay obviously so quite literally impossible yeah but this is a huge
00:41:23.120 realization which maybe you're maybe you already wear this if you if you've looked in the mirror a
00:41:26.680 lot but i've realized that like i perceive i think that my eyes like when i move my gaze around
00:41:33.560 okay that it's more visible than it actually is okay i've like thought like you could because
00:41:38.740 then i looked at myself in the mirror and move my gaze around and i'm like it's not moving like
00:41:43.060 you mean you thought your eyes i thought people could see the frame wait no it's not even that
00:41:48.720 complex like i literally thought people could see something that they actually kind of can't see
00:41:53.140 like you can see eyes moving around the eyeball moves right right okay but like i i can't even
00:41:58.960 like quite do it let me see if i can do it in the mirror no it's the thing this is one of the
00:42:01.720 classic tricks you think someone's looking in your eyes but they're looking at your nose you
00:42:05.240 can look at someone's nose and they think you're looking them dead in the eye is that what you
00:42:07.980 mean oh well micro movement yeah no that's not that's not you ever yeah that's a thing i remember
00:42:13.920 once hearing this thing like oh you can like control someone or something you slowly move
00:42:18.400 your gaze back and forth between their left eye and their right eye that's so scary and i believe
00:42:23.020 it i mean and then yeah i remember like yeah well you know if you if you because i feel like well
00:42:29.380 have we even talked about eye contact nope because this is huge okay you ready yeah a couple things
00:42:36.060 One, this is my big thing about eye contact.
00:42:37.740 It's so weird.
00:42:39.100 The reason I believe it's so intense
00:42:41.140 is that it's the only,
00:42:42.920 I guess others in touch,
00:42:43.960 but no, it's not quite the same.
00:42:45.520 It's the only sense that you can sense
00:42:48.020 the other one sensing through its own self.
00:42:50.140 So you can't hear someone hearing you.
00:42:52.700 Ear contact.
00:42:54.020 Right.
00:42:55.240 Your ear can't listen to someone's ear
00:42:57.520 while their ear listens to your ear.
00:42:59.880 Right.
00:43:00.400 The eye.
00:43:02.220 I'm looking at you.
00:43:03.140 You're looking at me.
00:43:03.800 Eye contact's insane.
00:43:06.060 I know.
00:43:06.980 And then my other theory about eye contact,
00:43:08.400 you ready for this?
00:43:09.460 That the two eyes...
00:43:09.860 Eye contact is insane.
00:43:11.480 It's...
00:43:12.280 If you cover one,
00:43:13.220 are you ready for this?
00:43:13.740 This is like another concept.
00:43:15.820 If you cover one...
00:43:16.980 Yeah.
00:43:17.540 I have this like belief
00:43:18.400 that almost like...
00:43:19.300 It's so...
00:43:19.840 Like there's nothing more awkward and weird.
00:43:22.280 Like if you pass like a bath...
00:43:23.660 Okay.
00:43:24.020 Single eye contact.
00:43:25.320 If you cover one eye
00:43:26.900 or the circumstances do,
00:43:28.600 I feel like the force of eye contact
00:43:30.700 is all funneled into a single eye.
00:43:33.000 So single...
00:43:33.460 Like so just try it for one second. 0.82
00:43:34.660 You mean like the idea of like.
00:43:37.420 No, actually, we're not.
00:43:38.260 I just remember we're not making eye contact.
00:43:40.020 Digital. Yeah.
00:43:40.520 Because we're looking at.
00:43:41.620 Yeah.
00:43:41.740 You're talking about always my greatest fear, which is the public restroom to the slit.
00:43:45.860 That's what I'm talking about.
00:43:46.980 I that's that's what I'm saying.
00:43:48.280 That's double eye contact.
00:43:49.660 In a way.
00:43:50.440 Yes, because because the two eyes are creating, you know, it's that thing, right?
00:43:56.180 Like the two eyes are creating their, you know, they're they're taking the two.
00:43:59.840 They dilute the body.
00:44:01.360 Yeah, I think so.
00:44:02.800 one is like
00:44:05.280 one is like
00:44:06.140 it's all
00:44:06.820 it's like
00:44:07.780 it's like if you had a hose
00:44:08.920 with two holes
00:44:09.860 and then you
00:44:10.480 covered one of the holes
00:44:11.700 you're getting extra
00:44:13.600 you're getting water
00:44:14.560 the pressure
00:44:15.580 yeah
00:44:16.280 anyway
00:44:17.320 it fell apart on me
00:44:18.720 it fell apart on me
00:44:19.660 or rather
00:44:20.300 no no I think
00:44:21.060 there's so much
00:44:21.900 to be
00:44:22.300 to
00:44:23.000 go into
00:44:24.380 with the eye contact
00:44:25.020 eye contact
00:44:25.360 well I over read it
00:44:26.820 I read
00:44:27.300 I overly read
00:44:28.280 into eye contact
00:44:29.100 you mean you're like
00:44:31.460 I think he has a crush
00:44:32.620 on me no i just think eye contact is dangerous in its power yeah i just mean when i say maybe
00:44:42.100 danger is not the right word but it's just slippery slope to extreme or it's like do you
00:44:46.280 ever look at someone and then you're like it's strange you can look at someone for a long time
00:44:51.280 and never really see them but like there's like but there is something about eye contact where
00:44:57.060 every now and then it's like whoa and you feel and you're like did they and i don't even mean
00:45:02.320 that it's like sexual or romantic or something.
00:45:05.280 Like, sometimes you cross gaze,
00:45:08.040 you lock eyes and it's like, 0.99
00:45:10.360 what the fuck was that? 0.99
00:45:12.480 And then we never know if they felt it. 1.00
00:45:15.080 No, I guess you do.
00:45:15.960 You do.
00:45:16.460 That's the thing of the animal thing
00:45:17.660 that we are ultimately in.
00:45:19.020 Yes.
00:45:19.240 Like, there is something that can be felt
00:45:24.500 and never articulated.
00:45:26.540 Yes.
00:45:27.000 And what a, thank God. 0.99
00:45:29.280 And thank fucking God. 0.99
00:45:30.880 The mystery lives. 0.99
00:45:31.880 The mystery lives.
00:45:33.460 Well, I mean, you know, like, don't look that, like, bear or animal in the eye.
00:45:36.620 You know, like, that kind of thing.
00:45:37.800 Yeah.
00:45:38.120 Like, it'll, like, you know, like, that's the ultimate aggression.
00:45:41.500 Yeah.
00:45:44.720 Don't catch a horse's gaze.
00:45:46.980 Honestly, I'm sorry. 0.99
00:45:48.340 It's a must.
00:45:49.060 I always reference these David Tell jokes, but it's one of my favorites.
00:45:52.440 It's just the best. 0.99
00:45:53.820 It's something, like, the best thing about fucking a horse. 1.00
00:45:56.460 You got to ride home. 0.99
00:46:00.880 I didn't do it perfectly.
00:46:02.680 That's so funny.
00:46:04.520 But it's like,
00:46:05.140 it's like,
00:46:05.540 it's like,
00:46:06.040 yeah,
00:46:06.360 yeah,
00:46:06.500 like you always get around home
00:46:07.640 or something like that.
00:46:08.740 It's just perfection.
00:46:10.020 God.
00:46:11.640 Oh,
00:46:12.600 yeah,
00:46:13.400 baby.
00:46:14.340 baby.
00:46:14.980 So yeah,
00:46:15.260 the lote is a revelation.
00:46:16.740 Stains in hotels,
00:46:17.660 what can be done of them?
00:46:19.640 Have you ever bled
00:46:20.600 on a hotel bed?
00:46:21.660 Because that's my greatest fear.
00:46:23.440 Oh my God,
00:46:23.820 it's so funny you say that.
00:46:24.720 I have.
00:46:26.060 And my friend bled
00:46:27.300 on a hotel bed
00:46:27.960 and they tried to get her.
00:46:29.340 They were like,
00:46:29.820 you now have to pay
00:46:30.600 for the mattress. 0.96
00:46:31.380 Like she got a bill.
00:46:32.080 Okay, that's.
00:46:33.180 No, no.
00:46:33.560 And she contested it
00:46:34.680 and they were like,
00:46:35.480 okay, fine.
00:46:36.060 How dare they?
00:46:37.140 I'm in shock.
00:46:38.380 No, no.
00:46:38.800 It's absolutely upsetting.
00:46:40.880 I think like it's your right,
00:46:42.320 basically.
00:46:43.320 Like it's,
00:46:43.900 talk about,
00:46:44.820 you know,
00:46:45.000 like we talk about,
00:46:45.700 oh, it's built into the budget
00:46:46.820 or whatever you're like stealing
00:46:48.360 or whatever.
00:46:48.880 Like I'm like.
00:46:49.320 It's a write-off.
00:46:50.280 Yeah.
00:46:51.060 I'm sorry.
00:46:51.940 We can cut that
00:46:52.740 because I don't want to constantly
00:46:53.620 be like referencing your stealing.
00:46:54.760 It's like so rude.
00:46:55.440 Okay.
00:46:56.120 You don't have to cut that.
00:46:58.100 All right, fine.
00:46:58.700 Bye.
00:46:58.960 Just like feel like
00:46:59.600 eye like keep bringing it up but like oh i was moved by planes the other day okay so much at
00:47:04.140 the airport i was looking out the window i forgot what i was just talking about remind me one second
00:47:07.620 on the bed but oh yeah i bled like a perfect circle and i was very proud like i was like
00:47:11.580 it's elegant almost like it's like a perfect sphere and um but yeah i also feel like like
00:47:16.700 my friend had to strip off or the bed sheet came off the my tour manager like one of the hotels
00:47:21.820 or something and you know just like the mattress is just this stained hell you know and i'm like
00:47:26.680 fine like that's inevitable people sweat i don't know though i kind of think like hotels need to 0.75
00:47:31.240 like get that shit together and like it should be there should be a plastic barrier what is the 0.94
00:47:36.600 yellow stain on pillows when you take off i think it's sweat i think it's sweat repulsive yeah or 0.99
00:47:41.860 it's like are you ready for this if it's like a down yellow we gotta change the that's the thing
00:47:45.680 with acne too pillowcases have to be changed every two days i mean two times a day and that's when i
00:47:50.640 go back into just the struggle to maintain a life i mean the amount of labor to maintain 0.96
00:47:54.940 Yeah, the amount of labor, if you're not letting things go to shit, how are you doing anything at all otherwise? 0.92
00:48:02.280 Wait, but a plane, so I was going to tell you this because I was on a plane, okay? 0.96
00:48:06.500 And I was looking out in the airport, and I found myself-
00:48:11.940 Locking eyes with a businessman.
00:48:14.260 With a plane.
00:48:16.020 You can make eye contact with a plane.
00:48:18.140 If you look at it, it's on the nose.
00:48:20.000 Well, there's a face.
00:48:21.440 You can make eye contact with a plane.
00:48:22.600 I mean, you can make eye contact with inanimate objects.
00:48:26.680 Oh, well, yeah.
00:48:27.580 Anytime there's anything with a double dot.
00:48:30.780 You know, neurologically,
00:48:31.900 our brains are programmed to recognize a face.
00:48:35.740 It's a neurological tendency.
00:48:39.080 The way that, and it's beautiful,
00:48:41.140 the way that when you scan,
00:48:42.200 maybe there's like a wall.
00:48:43.800 Like right now I'm looking at this wall
00:48:44.980 that's like brick and there's kind of,
00:48:46.960 you know, there's like a lot of amorphous objects.
00:48:50.660 you're you're you're neurologically programmed to scan and make i find eyes mouth i mean it's well
00:48:56.820 no no i love the darkness like the woods it's terrifying you see things it's like your brain
00:49:01.560 is trained to yes your brain cannot just watch darkness without finding locating figures so i
00:49:08.560 had a bit about this i think you find amusing and you know to reference a bit of course as hell but
00:49:12.240 like it never blossomed into one so here we go so it's about like you know me finding friends
00:49:17.800 everywhere okay in the form of inanimate objects right and that i can do it with almost anything
00:49:21.560 if i can basically find a triangle i've got it okay any three objects i can force two objects
00:49:26.360 to be the eyes and the third to be the mouth right and so i'm like looking around so sometimes
00:49:30.900 like on stage like okay like that light that thing that whatever then the idea is like that
00:49:35.020 it sort of gives me comfort like i've like you know created humanity i've seen humanity where
00:49:39.700 there isn't and then the idea is like oh my god maybe i should try that with someone's face
00:49:44.240 maybe i could look at an actual human face and find comfort in that face
00:49:50.820 you know what i mean like the reckoning which i feel like we've talked about on food but like
00:49:58.120 the mother meditation of looking at everyone it's an it's an enlightenment i'm sorry an
00:50:02.260 enlightened of like you're my mother mother mother mother it's like you look you walk down
00:50:06.960 the street because there's one version is you walk down the street and every person you pass
00:50:10.500 on the street internally you say i love you i love you i love you you look at everyone you say
00:50:13.460 I love you, I love you, I love you.
00:50:14.520 And then everyone you look at, you're like mother.
00:50:18.660 I mean, that's obviously very loaded
00:50:20.160 depending on one's relationship and association with their mother.
00:50:23.220 That was a great mother.
00:50:24.140 But it truly is powerful.
00:50:26.260 Particularly the I love you thing.
00:50:27.360 I've done it.
00:50:27.860 It is like if you find yourself, you know,
00:50:30.520 you're on the subway or something, you like look at everyone.
00:50:32.300 Oh, yeah.
00:50:33.340 Yeah, you're like in ecstasy on the subway.
00:50:35.460 Oh, yeah.
00:50:36.020 I'm like buzzing with love for humanity.
00:50:40.180 That's a little bit what happened.
00:50:41.320 He was peering out at the airport taxiing.
00:50:43.160 I found myself and I really thought of you
00:50:45.080 because like I had this moment
00:50:46.040 where I was like so moved by planes, okay,
00:50:47.820 that I found myself reaching for the word birdie.
00:50:49.980 Okay, like almost like, I was like,
00:50:52.100 do people call planes birdies ever?
00:50:53.820 Okay, like for some reason, like birdie popped into my head.
00:50:56.400 Like I was like, birdies.
00:50:58.080 Okay, like searching for like 1932 male plane jargon.
00:51:03.820 Yeah.
00:51:04.180 I was like birdies.
00:51:06.120 No, there's, I was on a plane recently
00:51:09.500 and actually had a moment of it felt cozy.
00:51:13.520 I mean, it was like, it was horrible.
00:51:14.920 It was one of these little pedal jumpers,
00:51:17.080 as they call it.
00:51:17.960 Oh, wow.
00:51:18.720 And I was in the back row.
00:51:21.740 It was hell.
00:51:22.320 Should have been hell.
00:51:23.360 For some reason, it felt roomy to me.
00:51:26.100 I mean, roomy.
00:51:27.420 How?
00:51:27.720 And I think actually the back of the plane,
00:51:30.120 I've always hated,
00:51:30.880 but I think it almost,
00:51:31.940 I'm starting to believe,
00:51:33.400 it almost creates more of a sensation of roominess
00:51:35.680 because you're looking,
00:51:36.520 there's so much space in front of you.
00:51:38.160 Brilliant.
00:51:38.820 See, I was in like a little plane at the very front
00:51:42.120 and I was wondering why the seat was so cheap
00:51:43.920 because I'm like, hmm, row 1A.
00:51:46.840 I'm like, surely 1st, I guess, somehow.
00:51:49.360 You know, like you can beat the system.
00:51:51.240 And then like I get on the plane and it's like, oh, you know what I mean?
00:51:55.120 Like there is no first class.
00:51:56.820 No, those planes where there's no first class.
00:51:58.100 I should have known.
00:51:58.920 You never like happen your way.
00:52:02.840 Yeah.
00:52:03.540 You never happen your way into like a first class seat.
00:52:06.420 they let you know 600 times that like by the way there's this thing i downloaded that's like
00:52:11.480 secret fares and it's like it looks for errors they're called like error fares or something
00:52:16.380 okay yes like they alert you instantly like that like like jet blue accidentally yeah or like no
00:52:23.160 accidentally listed a flight for like 50 cents and if you click on it now you can purchase are
00:52:27.700 you at please what's it called i know it didn't now we're gonna get the word out and then
00:52:32.280 to hear right right let me look i can't even remember and so far i haven't a secret flying
00:52:37.140 wait let's see god i'm such a a hound for for this sort of thing like it hasn't like let me
00:52:43.920 see like error the word error fair i was like download like i was like give it to me error
00:52:50.240 fair are you kidding all right let's see so like if i go to like my deals okay i'm not logging in
00:52:54.860 whatever but but anyway yeah it's like i haven't seen much but i'm very but i feel a little bad
00:52:59.700 showing up to the hotel like and it's like me handing over my card and they're like i guess
00:53:03.160 i don't know like if they could see that you only paid three cents and you're just grinning at them
00:53:08.040 like error fair no i don't think so you know the sound this was a big thing you know the sound of
00:53:15.880 the metal dish cover okay room service i was in ecstasy okay i took a bath i put on a robe
00:53:22.580 and then i actually filmed it when it's right when it's right outside the door and you hear the
00:53:26.700 the chatter of the well that's heaven too but just me myself lifting it sticking my middle finger
00:53:32.520 into the the hole to lift it and clatter clatter clatter i took a little video because i was like
00:53:37.920 i want to like live in this sound and that feeling that specific god i mean what is it about i know
00:53:46.020 room i mean room service liminal it's a liminal space i'm sorry to go back to god i'm sorry but
00:53:51.580 But not home.
00:53:53.120 Right, finding home where there is none.
00:53:56.220 Finding moments of home.
00:53:58.260 I mean, but I was like freshly showered in a robe,
00:54:03.220 eating eggs next to a mirror.
00:54:06.580 And actually, that was another moment where the mirror really meant a lot.
00:54:11.020 Because I could see not only the plate in front of me,
00:54:14.020 I could also see myself eating food.
00:54:16.080 Yeah, yeah.
00:54:17.100 Which, by the way, this happened to me once.
00:54:19.680 It was after a show.
00:54:20.720 I was eating tacos
00:54:21.760 in a little place
00:54:22.600 and I assumed
00:54:23.680 that while I'm eating the taco
00:54:24.620 that my mouth just looks like
00:54:25.720 this mess of
00:54:26.500 I glanced in the mirror
00:54:28.560 and I was like
00:54:28.900 oh actually
00:54:29.640 totally clean and contained
00:54:30.940 not bad
00:54:31.380 yeah
00:54:31.880 I feel like I've just been
00:54:33.880 really blabbing this episode
00:54:35.040 by the way
00:54:35.600 absolutely not
00:54:36.440 I happen to have it near
00:54:37.700 I didn't bring it for this purpose
00:54:38.740 but
00:54:39.120 oh
00:54:40.440 the gift
00:54:41.300 this is unbelievable
00:54:42.360 Puglas Intermade
00:54:43.560 beautiful
00:54:44.640 that Liz Popple
00:54:45.980 so sweet
00:54:47.180 it's a
00:54:47.520 got it after a show
00:54:49.040 a little doll 0.98
00:54:49.880 of my visor my hair my merch so sweet so sweet that shit blows we have a question because since 0.96
00:54:56.380 now i've you know cast myself in the dominant role yeah we're at the 50 minute mark what does 0.89
00:55:01.900 that mean that means we're done and i'm not ready yet i know i know i think i talked too much i was
00:55:09.960 really excited at all what jesus just really encourage you to not see it that way well i
00:55:17.260 ecstasy I know so I want to say something I had to just about mornings I had to wake up
00:55:23.820 for work this week around 3 30 4 o'clock excuse me yeah yeah yeah truly like unimaginable okay
00:55:33.700 like and then by the third day then I then yesterday I got to sleep in until five
00:55:40.040 oh my god I'm waking up at five and then I and then my alarm went off and I was like I'm okay
00:55:45.840 And I almost talked about the mirror.
00:55:47.140 I went into the bathroom,
00:55:48.160 flipped on the lights,
00:55:49.060 blinding, horrifying, right?
00:55:51.080 But I felt when five o'clock feels like a treat
00:55:53.640 and I looked in the mirror
00:55:54.920 and I even kind of smiled.
00:55:56.620 Like I caught myself.
00:55:57.740 I was like, look at you, you know?
00:56:00.040 Little moments of creating yourself are essential.
00:56:02.740 I mean, you have to touch in with the mirror.
00:56:07.720 You have to.
00:56:08.540 Do you want to hear something genius
00:56:09.740 that is related that a brilliant energy healer
00:56:14.740 among other things said to me about you're like do something scary like go on stage or whatever
00:56:19.500 and you're really feeling that part of yourself that's really afraid okay yeah she's like you can
00:56:24.240 tell that part of yourself like to go and color for a little while oh like it's gonna be okay you
00:56:29.980 can go and color for a while you can go and like sit in this little corner and whatever and i'm
00:56:35.280 gonna go do the scary thing can you believe jacklyn that color that's the answer and we started
00:56:42.280 to talk about reparenting
00:56:43.200 and that really is it.
00:56:44.340 Oh,
00:56:44.960 good color.
00:56:45.480 Because that's what,
00:56:46.000 that reminds me of a childhood therapist.
00:56:47.440 I had Susan
00:56:48.100 who similarly
00:56:50.040 would tell me,
00:56:51.140 and this is when I was like
00:56:52.080 not 10,
00:56:53.400 11,
00:56:54.060 I don't know.
00:56:55.220 She would have me 0.75
00:56:56.100 do an exercise
00:56:56.680 where I held,
00:56:58.300 like as though
00:56:58.860 I was cradling a baby.
00:57:00.960 Oh my God.
00:57:01.740 And it would be like,
00:57:03.000 it was just like
00:57:03.560 some like somatic exercise,
00:57:04.800 but the idea was
00:57:05.420 holding myself,
00:57:06.460 my baby self
00:57:07.080 who was scared.
00:57:08.380 Wow.
00:57:08.900 Self-comforting,
00:57:09.860 whatever.
00:57:10.000 Similar.
00:57:10.500 Soothing.
00:57:11.520 No, that's absolutely it.
00:57:13.200 Like the idea like that, God, it's just,
00:57:16.360 then you're like, oh, I don't know.
00:57:19.380 It's just, it's very profound.
00:57:20.840 And I'm only not saying her name right now
00:57:23.960 because, you know, if I drop it here,
00:57:26.640 I'll barely be able to get an appointment.
00:57:28.220 And I want to check with her before I send,
00:57:29.900 you know, the entire fleet her way.
00:57:34.140 I mean, and then just, because, you know,
00:57:36.260 the energy workers, I mean,
00:57:38.620 they have to maintain their energy. 0.87
00:57:40.340 Of course.
00:57:41.280 Too many clients.
00:57:42.560 Tough business.
00:57:43.920 All right.
00:57:44.580 Okay, we got to go.
00:57:45.440 This was the most revelatory.
00:57:47.320 A revelation.
00:57:48.040 Energy for the next, what, four days at least?
00:57:50.700 Oh, my God.
00:57:52.020 I love you.
00:57:53.340 Love you, too.
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